I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
sheets!
Peace
PA baby!!!
I always wanted to do that.
Impeach them all and send to the Hague for trial and imprisonment.
Welcome to the Jungle!!
Go Huckabee!
This has been bad and we haven't even gotten to the actual campaign yet.
Maybe there's soemthing to the "decided by New Hampshire and Iowa" thing. 
damn, i knew this was a pro Huckabee blog ...
Brian Williams sucks!!
OK so lets say you go to law school and dont get a good enough job after you graduate to be able to afford to pay your student loans. What can you do?
Tejas will be Hillary's Alamo.
OT: Spain has agreed to extradite a former Argentine navy officer accused of torturing and killing thousands of dissidents during Argentina's so-called Dirty War.
Ricardo Miguel Cavallo was arrested in Mexico in 2000 and extradited to Spain in 2003 on genocide and terrorism charges.
The Spanish government said in a statement it would grant a request from Argentina for his extradition, although genocide and terrorism charges against him in Spain will still be pending.
Up to 30,000 people were killed or "disappeared" during Argentina's 1976-1983 military government.
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/
...6AFC7F1963F.htm
campaigns are of course perfectly entitled to stay in the thing as long as they want.
Except Ralph Nader's.
OK so lets say you go to law school and dont get a good enough job after you graduate to be able to afford to pay your student loans. What can you do?
euphronius Night Moves!
Devise a really good strategy for committing and executing crime?
It's like the campaign equivalent of waterboarding.
Just when you think you won't survive, they'll stop to clear your lungs.
Of course, then the beatings start.
BORED NOW
Made me laugh.
Hey euphronius, got my copy of Baseball Prospectus yesterday! Woohoo! The season is here!
I think shorter campaigns would be better for everyone. These endless two year monsters just turn a lot of poeple totally off to politics in general.
Up to 30,000 people were killed or "disappeared" during Argentina's 1976-1983 military government.
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that's it? bush dwarfs that.
OK so lets say you go to law school and dont get a good enough job after you graduate to be able to afford to pay your student loans. What can you do?
Consulting?
OK so lets say you go to law school and dont get a good enough job after you graduate to be able to afford to pay your student loans. What can you do?
Go back to school and get a Masters in Biomedical Engineering. Loan re-payments are suspended. Suit goes back in the closet. Two more years of freedom.
been bored since stupor-tuesday
I think shorter campaigns would be better for everyone. These endless two year monsters just turn a lot of poeple totally off to politics in general.
Apprentice to Darth Holden | 02.29.08 - 2:32 pm | #
it seems like they keep getting longer, too.
Obama should promise Hillary the Keynote at the convention.
Yup, I think the worst thing would be for Hillary to just barely squeak out wins in TX & OH. Would be pretty hard for her to quit then and we'd all have to live through weeks more of this.
I think shorter campaigns would be better for everyone.
Yes, the early start sucked, too.
I have to admit, the prospect of watching Obama perfect his kung-fu ninja rhetorical fighting skills against the Clinton-Mccain double team seems rarther intriguing.
About a week or two more of it and we may start seeing McCain/Clinton '08! signs showing up at Clinton rallies.
OK so lets say you go to law school and dont get a good enough job after you graduate to be able to afford to pay your student loans. What can you do?
euphronius Night Moves!
Well, there is the option of moving in for cheap rent with (unattractive) gay nudists, which was mentioned yesterday...
OK so lets say you go to law school and dont get a good enough job after you graduate to be able to afford to pay your student loans. What can you do?
euphronius Night Moves!
It's very easy to get a forebearance. You'd still piling up interest (you can pay that, though), but they're quite generous with the economic hardship dealio.
/guess how I know
Hey euphronius, got my copy of Baseball Prospectus yesterday! Woohoo! The season is here!
Halfdan | 02.29.08 - 2:32 pm | #
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im thinking furcal and kent might be the best deals at SS and 2b.
I think Carlos Pena will repeat. Corey Hart is my number 1 OF target.
Made me laugh.
V for Virginia
All blogs should have more Buffy quotes.
Gee, if you think the primaries are boring, it's a good thing that you're not on this conference call.
Do Not Want.
How much has Nader raised since he announced?
"I'm really not sure I can stand another 7 weeks of this."
I'm burned out now.
Well if Obama can't manage much more than erasing Clinton's 20+% lead in Texas in a month, he might as well just pack it in and go back to Chicago. Or Somalia.
I for one got the Willow from "Buffy" reference.
BTW, wife and I are thinking of moving to Philly, as we can't afford housing in NYC any more.
Night aerial photography.
It's purty.
How much has Nader raised since he announced?
$1.93
It's very easy to get a forebearance. You'd still piling up interest (you can pay that, though), but they're quite generous with the economic hardship dealio.
/guess how I know
V for Virginia, home again | Homepage | 02.29.08 - 2:33 pm | #
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thank god. ive not had to do a forbearance yet, so ill have some room i supoose? plus, i HAVE been paying student loans for 8 years now, so maybe ill get some slack. probably not.
Yes, his kung-fu is powerful. Think I'm kidding?
http://www.salon.com/politics/wa...nama/
index.html
A solution to McCain's Panama problem, with Obama's support : A solution to McCain's Panama problem, with Obama's support
On Thursday, the New York Times took up the question of whether John McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee, is even eligible for the presidency. The Constitution specifies that "No person except a natural born citizen... shall be eligible to the office of President." This has been popularly (but never legally) interpreted as meaning that only those persons actually born in the United States were eligible. But McCain wasn't born here; he was born in the Panama Canal Zone, as his father, serving in the Navy, was stationed there at the time.
There might not have ever been much of a controversy over the issue, but one Senator has taken steps to ensure that McCain will indeed be eligible. And no, the Senator in question isn't a Republican trying to ensure the health of their party -- it's Missouri Democrat Claire McCaskill, a prominent backer of Barack Obama. McCaskill has introduced the "Children of Military Families Natural Born Citizen Act" into the Senate. McCaskill's legislation, which she wrote by hand on a notepad after reading the Times article, specifies a new part of the definition of "natural born citizen," which, if the bill passes, will now include "any person born to any citizen of the United States while serving in the active or reserve components of the United States Armed Forces."
Obama himself is now co-sponsoring the bill.
campaigns are of course perfectly entitled to stay in the thing as long as they want.
i wonder if nbc will ban hillary from the debates now?
Obama's Maine victory sets up Pennsylvania's knockout punch.
Just need to keep up the stamina
The lawyer speaking now is famous for telling a 4th circuit judge that he already knew what that judge thought and asked if he might hear from others on the panel.
How much has Nader raised since he announced?
bill
A lot of yawns.
Damnit. Repost:
Is the Panama thing a fake controversy stirred up by wingnuts? Are you a U.S. citizen if you are born abroad on a U.S. military base to U.S. citizen parents? What is the real non-wingnutty scoop?
How much has Nader raised since he announced?
bill |
enough to buy a fricken chicken sandwich
i can't wait till teh general election campaign's bullshit flinging and pearl-clutching
OK so lets say you go to law school and dont get a good enough job after you graduate to be able to afford to pay your student loans. what can you do?
euphronius
I bitch about it on the internets, myself.
How much has Nader raised since he announced?
bill
he's on a shoestring budget. No, really. he and his running mate have to make money for their campaign by selling old shoelaces.
$1.93
The Old Man From Scene 24
Coupons don't count
How 'bout an Ides of March to liven it up?
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OK so lets say you go to law school and dont get a good enough job after you graduate to be able to afford to pay your student loans. What can you do?
return your education and demand your money back.
Up to 30,000 people were killed or "disappeared" during Argentina's 1976-1983 military government.
I watched a rather sad documentary about the lost children and the Grandmothers of La Plaza de Mayo
the search for their missing grandchildren and finding out what happened to their sons
so called 'subversives' would be taken away and murdered and their children would be taken away from them and given to childless military couples
BORED NOW
When did Willow start running this blog?
OK so lets say you go to law school and dont get a good enough job after you graduate to be able to afford to pay your student loans. what can you do?
euphronius
Modify your loan payment to make it income sensitive.
OK so lets say you go to law school and dont get a good enough job after you graduate to be able to afford to pay your student loans. what can you do?
You don't have to start repaying them for 6 months or something after graduation. But you can always apply for a deferral of repayment due to hardship.
How much has Nader raised since he announced?
$1.93
The Old Man From Scene 24
"three-fiddy"
Primaries exist for simels' amusement.
How much has Nader raised since he announced?
And how much of it came from Republicans who are grateful to him for 2000?
Are you a U.S. citizen if you are born abroad on a U.S. military base to U.S. citizen parents?
Did you see noblejoanie's post below?
How much has Nader raised since he announced?
bill
His campaign bus is a Corviar if that tells you anything.
The lawyer speaking now is famous for telling a 4th circuit judge that he already knew what that judge thought and asked if he might hear from others on the panel.
Snow (D-SC) | Homepage | 02.29.08 - 2:35 pm | #
wow.
I passed bored now and am on thirsty now.
he's on a shoestring budget. No, really. he and his running mate have to make money for their campaign by selling old shoelaces.
Hesiod | 02.29.08 - 2:35 pm | #
and "24 telephones that dont ring"
RIL question from below:
Is the Panama thing a fake controversty stirred up by wingnuts? Are you a U.S. citizen if you are born abroad on a U.S. military base to U.S. citizen parents? What is the real non-wingnutty scoop?
I think it's wingnut wishful thinking. I first read about it on a linked to Paulista site. They were raving about how this foreign born slime McCain can't possibly be our Preznit!
When did Willow start running this blog?
Not regular Willow, skanky (according to regular Willow) parallel universe Willow.
Up to 30,000 people were killed or "disappeared" during Argentina's 1976-1983 military government.
The kind of thing that gives OUR fascists wet dreams.
Atrios should be thankful he doesn't live in OR, KY or any of the other podunk states that don't have primaries until May 20 (11 weeks, bay-bee).
One state, can't remember which, doesn't have their primary until June. Really gets those citizens fired up about democracy.
All blogs should have more Buffy quotes.
SteveNS
I think Willow is a really pretty name.
res ipsa: read this -
http://www.haloscan.com/
comments...331513#11438686
But Clinton got decisive victories in Michigan and Flordia!
"Well if Obama can't manage much more than erasing Clinton's 20+% lead in Texas in a month, he might as well just pack it in and go back to Chicago. Or Somalia."
yeah, that takes some balls to say with a staright face.
two weeks ago she was ahead by 20 pts in ohio and texas, and the pundits said for her to get back in the race she needed double digit wins in every state between then and the convention.
then the imploding clinton camp said all they needed was texas. then it was ok to lose texas, but not ohio. now, they say obama has to win 'em ALL because he ran raise more money, train more volunteers and close a gap.
fucking pathetic.
I think Carlos Pena will repeat. Corey Hart is my number 1 OF target.
BP likes Hart better than Vlad in RF this year.
well i really like o'bama's response to the 3am call ad. hrc choked on her "red phone moment"
http://
tpmelectioncentral.talkin...l_never_use.php
Night aerial photography.
It's purty.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint
But no antennas! Alright, maybe just a few.
wow.
His associate tells me the court's decision beat them back to SC.
The voters have been closely divided, the super-delegates are divided, the party is divided.
I think, at least, a bit of time is exactly what is needed.
One state, can't remember which, doesn't have their primary until June. Really gets those citizens fired up about democracy.
Puerto Rico.
Not a state so it's all good.
yeah cause im thinking 6 months after graduateion payments will be 1500 a month. it would be nice to keep that at 800 or so - especially if im not getting a nice paying legal gig right away.
Are you a U.S. citizen if you are born abroad on a U.S. military base to U.S. citizen parents?
Of course you are. At most, you'd have dual citizenship. But IIRC, military bases are essentially US territory.
I think McCain's questionable citizenship status is the real reason he is for amnesty. Note to self-Call Rush
he and his running mate have to make money for their campaign by selling old shoelaces.
Nader understands the misuse of technology.
Velcro:unsafe at any speed.
peace & quiet
Atrios should be thankful he doesn't live in OR, KY or any of the other podunk states that don't have primaries until May 20 (11 weeks, bay-bee).
I already voted, but Mark Penn doesn't think I'm significant.
I watched a rather sad documentary about the lost children and the Grandmothers of La Plaza de Mayo
"Midnight, our sons and daughters
Were cut down and taken from us
Hear their heartbeat
We hear their heartbeat
In the wind we hear their laughter
In the rain we see their tears
Hear their heartbeat
We hear their heartbeat"
/mothers of the disappeared
U2 may be sellouts, but this song and a few others have soul
meander. Thanks.
euphronius, I have gotten a forebearance every time I have asked for one (2 or 3x)
yeah cause im thinking 6 months after graduateion payments will be 1500 a month. it would be nice to keep that at 800 or so - especially if im not getting a nice paying legal gig right away.
euphonious,
When are you graduating?
His associate tells me the court's decision beat them back to SC.
Snow (D-SC)
Of course you are. At most, you'd have dual citizenship. But IIRC, military bases are essentially US territory.
In this case it actually was US territory. The Canal Zone was US territory until, what, 1999.
"three-fiddy"
Hey!
We have our primary in May, just in case those poseurs in Pennsylvania can't make up their minds.
Of course you are. At most, you'd have dual citizenship. But IIRC, military bases are essentially US territory.
So that means a baby born to a terrorist in Guantanamo is elligible to become Presiddent of the United States? /Sean hannity if Obama was the one born on a military base.
[See how it's done, folks? Heh]
Is the Panama thing a fake controversty stirred up by wingnuts? Are you a U.S. citizen if you are born abroad on a U.S. military base to U.S. citizen parents? What is the real non-wingnutty scoop?
McCaskill wrote up a quick bill to clarify the issue, and Obama co-sponsored. I'm all in favor of it, but it only clarifies the issue for children of military families, and not for all American citizens born overseas. Pisses me off, because apparently now I can't be president, even though I've never not been a citizen! Any citizen should be able to be president. Even Ahnuld.
Libera Anglia Nova.
sheetsies
About a week or two more of it and we may start seeing McCain/Clinton '08! signs showing up at Clinton rallies.
Hesiod
After what McCain said about Chelsea?
Israel threatens "holocaust" of Palestinians p
BP likes Hart better than Vlad in RF this year.
Halfdan | 02.29.08 - 2:38 pm | #
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im doing an acution. (we use OBA and SLUG instead of HR and Ave. the rest is normal 5x5 mixed 12 teams)
Kent $17
Furcal $15
Encarnacion 15
Pena 19
D Ortiz 40
hart 25
Rios 25
CB young 20
Hermida 15
G. Soto 5
pitchjers i havent figured out yet.
In this case it actually was US territory. The Canal Zone was US territory until, what, 1999.
Snow (D-SC) | Homepage | 02.29.08 - 2:40 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
That's right...hadn't even thought about that.
These people are such fucking morons.
Any citizen should be able to be president. Even Ahnuld.
(runs screaming from the room)
This is what noblejoanie posted:
We have family Australia. One cousin was born to US parents on Guam while her dad was in the Navy in the 50s. She was raised in Australia where her parents moved after he was discharged (and started one of the first dive shops, but I digress.)
When she tried to apply for US citizenship, she was denied when she applied as a young adult. Circumstances must have had some bearing. But it's an example of someone who didn't automatically get citizenship.
noblejoanie | 02.29.08 - 2:01 pm | #
I think it's wingnut wishful thinking. I first read about it on a linked to Paulista site. They were raving about how this foreign born slime McCain can't possibly be our Preznit!
Apprentice to Darth Holden
It was, however, also pointed out in the NY Time article about Panama Johnny that Barry Goldwater wasn't born in the US, either:
Goldwater was born in 1909 in Phoenix, in what was then the Arizona Territory.
Oops! Guess they're all ready to piss all over the Godfather of the Conservative movement.
Oh, wait: they already did that.
I think McCain's questionable citizenship status is the real reason he is for amnesty. Note to self-Call Rush
yeah cause im thinking 6 months after graduateion payments will be 1500 a month. it would be nice to keep that at 800 or so - especially if im not getting a nice paying legal gig right away.
You can also make interest only payments for a short time. There are several options you can select from once the time comes. And look for a good time to consolidate your loans when interest rates are low.
With all the refrences to his mother, one would think that it was McCain-McCain in 1908...
Of course you are. At most, you'd have dual citizenship. But IIRC, military bases are essentially US territory.
Erm, no.
The State Department has stated flat out that US military bases don't count as US territory.
The key issue is, are both your parents US citizens. If that is true, you're supposed to be "natural born", but there are exceptions. There's quite a bit of highly technical writing on this issue.
Night aerial photography.
It's purty.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint
Purty but why isn't it dark? Night is supposed to be dark or you cannot see the stars and the moon.
It is dark here. Dark enough to see light from the stars on the snow.
Up to 30,000 people were killed or "disappeared" during Argentina's 1976-1983 military government.
Sadly, no mothers cared to stand up to the regime...
They're dancing with the missing
They're dancing with the dead
They dance with the invisible ones
Their anguish is unsaid
They're dancing with their fathers
They're dancing with their sons
They're dancing with their husbands
They dance alone They dance alone
Sting - They Dance Alone.
About a week or two more of it and we may start seeing McCain/Clinton '08! signs showing up at Clinton rallies.
Hesiod
After what McCain said about Chelsea?
Terry C - No More Republicans
Whatever helps Hillary get in the white house...
I'm looking forward to voting for Hillary Clinton on Tuesday. The first time I've been able to vote for a woman for national office. Let's wait until Tuesday night to declare the inevitibility of Senator Obama.
Any citizen should be able to be president. Even Ahnuld.
scrap elections and go choose offices by lot!!! That's how the Greeks did it.
Yeah it seems to me that "natural born" should mean anyone born a US citizen.
Oops! Guess they're all ready to piss all over the Godfather of the Conservative movement.
Goldwater has already been denounced as farther to the left than Lenin by the raving lunatics who have made the GOP their asylum away from the asylum.
Are you a U.S. citizen if you are born abroad on a U.S. military base to U.S. citizen parents?
Wait a minute.
People who are serving their country are having the citizenship status of their children questioned?
Jebus Chripes on iceskates.
isn't it amazing that mitch daniels gets to be the governor of indiana after he missed the cost of the iraqapation by 2 trillion 950 billion dollars (wow that's the biggest subtraction problem i have ever done in longhand).
http://www.democracynow.org/
2008...lion_dollar_war
"scrap elections and go choose offices by lot!!! That's how the Greeks did it."
Yes but they didn't have the senator from Mississippi giving Lott a bad name.
Sorry, Atrios. I love you bro, but its time to stop acting like a pussy.Hillary is providing the Mccain campaign with too much cannon fodder.Dont be afraid of turning off some of your readers.. Stand up, dude,for what you believe in..if in fact believe anything...otherwise continue to play it safe!!!
After what McCain said about Chelsea?
Terry C - No More Republicans
Whatever helps Hillary get in the white house...
Hesiod
Now, that's just plain ridiculous.
Wait a minute.
People who are serving their country are having the citizenship status of their children questioned?
Jebus Chripes on iceskates.
Terry C - No More Republicans
That reaction is precisely why Obama is a co-sponsor of the bill before Congress eliminating any ambiguity on that point.
My little corner of Southwestern Ohio certainly seems to think Obama will end it here.
"its time to stop acting like a pussy"
Charming.
It's cool that Obama co sponsers the bill, no McCain has to be beholden to Obama no matter what the outcome. And conservatives will gnash their teeth and fear that McCain looks weak.
Tommy, your mommy's caling you.
No only one parent has to be a citizen. That was the case with me. You might have to file a report of a birth with the state department. I have one of those as well.
Part of the problem with the "natural born" thing is that there hasn't been a ruling on what it is, just a lot of legislation, constitutional law, and commentary on same.
No judge has ever been forced to interpret all this and issue a ruling.
So there's plenty of armchair analysis (to include mine) on what "natural born" actually means, aside from the obvious of you were born somewhere in the 50 states (or contiguous territories in the case of Barry Goldwater).
Sorry, Atrios. I love you bro, but its time to stop acting like a pussy.Hillary is providing the Mccain campaign with too much cannon fodder
I rather think Obama's fighting back pretty well. This two on one stuff actually helps him, I think. He's not backing down, and it makes him look tugh and like a leader.
sheets
"Sorry, Atrios. I love you bro, but its time to stop acting like a pussy.Hillary is providing the Mccain campaign with too much cannon fodder."
Hint, guys who use that phrase as an insult, don't get to see as much of it.
Yes but they didn't have the senator from Mississippi giving Lott a bad name.
Lillian Yiyuan
The Greeks had Alchabaides, who was kinda like the Chimpy of his age.
Tommy, your mommy's caling you.
pie
He doesn't like HER, either.
She's one of them thar wimmen.
isn't it amazing that mitch daniels gets to be the governor of indiana after he missed the cost of the iraqapation by 2 trillion 950 billion dollars (wow that's the biggest subtraction problem i have ever done in longhand).
No one ever said we elected them smart in Red State Indiana.
Besides, he worked for Lilly at one time. Ask him how many hookers it takes to buy off a senator and you'll get an answer stat!
Hint, guys who use that phrase as an insult, don't get to see as much of it.
Lillian Yiyuan
it shows me precisely what their mindset is when it comes to women.
No only one parent has to be a citizen. That was the case with me. You might have to file a report of a birth with the state department. I have one of those as well.
Of course, there's an issue of US parantage when the father is alledged to be an American citizen, and the mother is not. This happens everywhere we've got US troops stationed. Europeans (those terrible people) have long held that if daddy is a European, even if he was just in a one night stand, the child is a citizen of Europe (name your subunit here) as well.
The US, not so much acknowledging this aspect of our military adventurism.
I rather think Obama's fighting back pretty well. This two on one stuff actually helps him, I think. He's not backing down, and it makes him look tugh and like a leader.
Obama fights well, and understand how to use subtlety.
As I said I'm more fascinated at his use of tactics then anything. Can't call them brilliant until after he wins, but I called Bill Clinton in 1991, and I've felt the same way about Obama since 2004. My political sense is tingling...
So that means a baby born to an appeasing Republican moderate in Guantanamo is elligible to become Presiddent of the United States? /Sean hannity since McCain was the one born on a military base.
Foxed yo traitor
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Whatever helps Hillary get in the white house...
Hesiod
Oh, so Hillary is a BAD MOTHER, too?
Jeesus Chripes!
Possible McCain running mate revealed:
http://img142.imageshack.us/
img1...legacylgdg7.jpg
non-wingnutty scoop?
res i
My daughter was born in Italy and had full American citizenship from day 1. If she had resided in Italy for ten years she could have opted for dual citizenship which Italy would have recognized but the U.S no
Whining already? You'd make a lame Iowan. Or New Hampsherinian. Ite.
I honestly think this 'thang' should go on right to the convention, so every citizen in America gets to endure weeks of ringing phones and eager-beaver teenagers harrassing you for their votes -- if not the month you're going to get because of your savvy scheduling out there in PA.
Seriously: anybody who's ever bitched about Iowa or NH 'going first' doesn't have a clue what it's like. Not a clue. I hope your ears start bleeding.
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