I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
oh yeah, baby!
Thank you, Avedon
not really greedy for anything more. i'm a Classic Frist sort of person.
Avedon,
(see below 
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Thanks, Avedon!
Avedon-- Sadly, it doesn't look like I can carve out time for a London meetup. Only have one day that I can get away for meetings in Cambridge, with travel to and from Pulborough on the same day. Sorry.
"Beach Towel" for garden. Sit on butt, in lotus position or indian-style, and weed from there.
Still looking at hotels in KL--is it wrong of me to snicker at the street name "Dang Wangi"?
So, speculation is that Palin left before being indicted for some shady dealings with a construction company?
I wonder what Barry thinks of this mess. . . .
Health Care Organizers Confronted By Police At Event With Nebraska Senator
By Brian Beutler - July 3, 2009, 1:31PM
Did Sen. Mike Johanns (R-NE) sick the cops on a group of health care reform organizers? That's what the Service Employees International Union is claiming. The group had received permission to gather at the Nebraska Medical Center to meet Johanns who was scheduled to appear at a roundtable discussion on health care--but Johanns apparently wasn't interested.
"SEIU along with teachers and members of the military set up a table with apple pie and signs welcoming the Senator and urging him to support an American solution to healthcare reform," noted Jane Kleeb, SEIU State Director. "Instead of coming by and saying hello, the Senator walked right by us as we were surrounded by police and said 'good luck with that.'
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.c...tor.php?
ref=fpc
Nice, eh? (the Revolution is LONG overdue)
Well, generally, you can see larvae "twitching" in the water before they become adults,
let me be more clear.
for the past three, no four years, my flooding in my back yard has been as regular as..well, rain. every frakkin time it rained for more than a patter, i got water. now, the yard is a funny shape, and to get the water out i had to dig a trench. it's a thing with the pump, but anyway, so there's this spade-wide scar smack in the middle of my yard 30ft long and 2ft deep. i can get all the water off the yard (altho the regularity of the flooding killed a lot of plants and grass, pretty!) but not out of the trench. again, it's a thing with the pump, but anyway. so the ground is so saturated most of the time, that water just Stays There. for days. i even had some duckweed and pondscum growing there. warm, protected from the breeze, standing as still as a rock, just what do you my smarty pants nature guy with the oh so helpful scientific classification think really enjoyed living there? hmmm, well, yes, i did get ducks sometimes. a couple of frogs, sure. the deer would stroll thru now and again. what else, gosh i wonder, could it be...
SATAN'S OWN MOSQUITO COLONY???
why, yes. yes it could. so if i seem to be blogging when i should be gardening, well. i need my blood. i really can't donate more than a pint a day, yo.
(to the tune of "Jesus Loves The Little Children
"Stick a fork in Sarah Palin,
Stick a fork in her, she's done!
She is crispy, she is moist
Let the multitudes rejoice
Stick a fork in Sarah Palin 'cause she's done!"
so if i seem to be blogging when i should be
gardening, well. i need my blood. i really can't donate more than a
pint a day, yo.
Counselor Troi/
I'm sensing...anger. Frustration.
/Counselor Troi
Rats. Even with broadband I end up talking to myself at the end of a thread.
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Buy "Mosquito Dunks." Read directions.
Toss appropriate number into trench.
Solve problem. Or you could snark at me instead.
Deanna, why don't you put some clothes on and bring me a sythale. /funnin/
no, i'm just messing with mr. nature. there are days when it does suck, like today. but it's mostly ok now, as i got the drain blown out and won't have flooding issues for at least five years.
when i saw on the threads, during a break last evening, that sarah palin had resigned i was, like, wtf?
i'm currently listening to her resignation speech in another tab and i'm wtf'er than ever!
wtf?
in all seriousness plants, i did it for the frogs. i wanted that space to be absolutely chem free, and if they want some food, here it is. the big frog die off worries me a lot and i wanted to do something. i really hope the ones i saw reproduced. what are the dunks made of?
Deanna, why don't you put some clothes on and bring me a sythale.
Hee.
debt-ridden stimulus dollars.
uh-huh.
My thoughts on Sarah Palin: Play her off, keyboard cat ...
The dunks are made of dormant bacillus thuringensis israeliensis (which is specific to mosquitoes) in a non-toxic substrate. Technically, it's biological control, not chemical, and should not affect the frogs or any other life form.
I'm not quite as stupid as I look.
Oh, here you are.
Palin even botched the "retreat" quote attribution. It wasn't MacArthur. It was Major General Oliver Prince Smith.
CD - we have to be in Eaton Rapids for the parade at 11 - should be home by 2 ish.
Food sometime after 4:20.
btw here's the link to the printable version of the original taibbi article in rolling stone if you, like me, need to grab a copy and go. it has all the video links, too.
thanks very much to avedon for pointing it out.
this is such a fucking strange speech (palin's) i can't even believe someone wrote it.
See, in the nursery business, you have to tell the truth; because if you don't, your customers will quickly find out and never return and you will go broke.
Sobeale, keyboard cat made me laugh and laugh. Thanks for that.
LOLcatz to the rescue! 
ok, it's not the original rolling stone article... it's excerpts and responses. still interesting but not what i represented.
need more coffee and less sarah palin, i think.
ChiDy,
plantsman is right, I bought my mosquito dunks from an organic farm supply place. I have a koi pond and have to be very careful about what I use because fish are sensitive like frogs.
I'll find the URL for the supplier I use and post it here in a sec.
Gromit, I'm really sorry I'm not going to be able to take you on the IndiaTown tour. Great tandoori and bel pouri, paisleys in the sidewalk - you don't know what you're missing.
Next time, I guess....
need more coffee and less sarah palin, i think.
Who is this Sarah Palin you speak of?
Geez,
Gail Collins and Bob Herbert both have excellent columns up this day in the Times. (The world will end shortly)
IndiaTown tour
Sounds like fun! We'll likely be in Cambridge for a year, so I'm sure we'll have a chance to get together.
The hardware store owner's wife used to tell customers anything they wanted to hear while flattering them shamelessly.
I tried to get her to stop lying about what plants would do just to sell them, but she wouldn't stop.
Barndog,
Gail Collins, " Basically, the point was that Palin is quitting as governor because she’s not a quitter. Or a deceased salmon.
Sarah Barracuda made her big announcement Friday afternoon on the lawn of her home to an audience that appeared to include only Todd, the kids and the next-door neighbors. Smiling manically, she looked like a parody of the woman who knocked the Republicans dead at their convention. She babbled about her parents’ refrigerator magnet, which apparently had a lot of wise advice. And she recalled her visit with the troops in Kosovo, whose dedication and determination inspired her to ... resign.
“Life is about choices!” declared the nation’s most anti-choice politician.
People, what is going on with governors in this country? Are we doomed to see them go bonkers one by one, state by state?"
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/0...tml?
ref=opinion
heh
Back in awhile. I think.
ChiDy:
I get my stuff from ARBICO Organics:
http://www.arbico-organics.com/
They have all sorts of biological pest control.
Sarah Palin martyred for the cause of conservatism
http://LloydMarcus.com ^ | July 4, 2009 | Lloyd Marcus
While watching Sarah Palin's resignation speech, I thought, "Who is this amazing woman? What planet did she come from? Will there ever be anyone like her?" Once again, I was blown away by her power, grace, character and courage.
The world is mourning the loss of a one of a kind pop icon. I mourn the loss of a one of a kind conservative leader martyred for the cause of conservatism. Though impossible for the pop icon, I pray Palin will be resurrected for 2012.
The martyr of Palin has angered, energized, and elevated my commitment to fight for the cause of conservatism. The left was relentless in their quest to destroy Palin and her family with frivolous lawsuits, cruel jokes, lies, and character assassination. The level of hatred for this great woman is unparalleled. I vow, by the grace of God, to fight these EVIL people with all that is in me.
Watch your fucking mouth, "Lloyd," or you'll be next on the chopping block.
Good morning, all.
Basketball is so exciting, now that point guards are calling audibles.
Great tandoori and bel pouri, paisleys in the sidewalk - you don't know what you're missing.
Ooooh where do I sign up! Sounds wonderful!!
Hubby and I were talking about taking a trip to London this fall, actually. Flights and hotels are cheap, but we're still gonna be broke because of all the house construction so it's looking iffy.
Lime Rickey,
Do you have a special immunity gene that allows you read that drek without vomiting?
I do not. (Sigh)
Here's a holiday video 4 yas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P...h?
v=P93WjP8m3GM
I'm not quite as stupid as I look.
plantsman
no, but you are cute when being teased. /puts frog in plants' diabetically appropriate cereal bowl/
like i said: tis a problem no more. flooding won't happen much atall for the rest of the year. but the product of the last round of reproduction insanity is out there right now. and it's Hongry. i am afraid.
Jeebus. "When Sarah stood before me I spooged and knew I must worship this Tundra Vixen!"
Sarah Palin martyred for the cause of conservatism
OF COURSE she has been "martyred" Jeeeeeebus. In my blog post I call her the patron saint of political victimhood. That card will only play so many times, honey, and you squandered it on silly things like a David Letterman vendetta.
I used the link for the complete article, but I believe Barry posted a .pdf for it at The Big Picture.
(God, I love a houseful of company. I suppose I should play host, eh)
Do you have a special immunity gene that allows you read that drek without vomiting?
It's funny -- in a sad sort of way.
Basketball is so exciting, now that point guards are calling audibles.
Moe Szyslak
It's always soooo pathetic when politicians have to publicly re-live their high school triumphs.
And the Stampede in Alberta is just like the running of the bulls in Pamplona, right?
thanks for the link, SB!
For the first night in a week Zelda did not pee on the floor in the night. She's getting better bladder control, which is great. She still can't walk but she can crawl a little bit and she can prop herself up on her front legs and move herself around a bit better.
The Ceeb news report on Sarah last night was hilarious-- they're just openly mocking her: "During Sarah Palin's vice-presidential race, she was accused of being incoherent... but wait til you see this!"
Sometime poster "Missouri Bird" has been turned on to Gail Collins' column on Sarah by me by gmail this morning. I know she'll enjoy it.
thanks for the link, SB!
YW!!!
Mosquitoes are a huge problem here. Plus with construction, there are tons of litltle nooks and crannies where water can pool up. I'm going to spread the granuals and dunks around to see if that helps.
I also bought some garlic oil which is supposed to help with aphids and other things. I hope it works on chiggers. We have the WORST chigger problem.
SoBeale, you are totally invited. 
Oh, that's nice, SB; visible improvement is so good to see!
There's only so many horsies and rodeo queens you can look at --- an hour or so into the three-hour parade, we decided we'd seen enough, and went about our bidness. Ended up at the dinosaur museum, which far exceeded our expectations. Spent the rest of the day there.
Head Smashed In today.
I used the link for the complete article, but I believe Barry posted a .pdf for it at The Big Picture.
Avedon
and thanks very much.
i was just trying to track it back to the original rolling stone piece so i could easily print a copy and take it with me, but got that other 'challenges and replies' thing instead.
guess i'll just paste the text from your article into a word doc and print it.
and i am as yet sorely undercaffeinated.
no chiggers here, thank the Goddess. they really aren't any fun. what are their natural predators and can you get some of those?
She still can't walk but she can crawl a little bit and she can prop herself up on her front legs and move herself around a bit better.
Oh, my, I'm sorry, SoBe. Dog? Cat? I didn't know you have an ill pet.
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It has been too hot to cook, and now I kind of have to.
Barry posted a .pdf for it at The Big Picture.
Avedon
awp!
"document removed due to copyright infringement"
cut and paste time.
hat was rambling and disjointed even by Palin’s low standards. When I was watching it, it reminded me of a COPS episode, when they are are talking to a guy accused of stealing aerosol paint from a hardware store, and the guy swears he didn’t steal any paint, and yes it is all just a big coincidence that he has a circle of silver paint around his mouth and nose, and yes, it is an even bigger coincidence that there is a paper bag with silver paint in it and no he has no idea why there are empty silver cans of paint in the bag seat of his car and oh, hey, by the way, do you have a light, buddy, and better yet do you gotta smoke?
ballonjuice. snort.
Poor, Lt. Gov. Parnell. He's on MSNBC praising the aptness of Palin's basketball metaphor.
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HuffPo had links to Taibbi's piece on Goldman Sachs all yesterday, I know.
SoBeale, you are totally invited.
umm! Tandoori here we come!
Sparkle Plenty, Zelda is a dog. She ruptured a disc in her neck last week, had to have surgery. Thanks for your well-wishes, it's been a hard week. She needs to be carried everywhere, and she's 40 lbs. Ow my back.
plantsman -- We had a string of days when even the heat of the crockpot was too much.
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Basically, the point was that Palin is quitting as governor because she’s not a quitter. Or a deceased salmon.
From the Gail Collins story. She is on today.
Well, we bought Rolling Stone to read the G/A article. Haven't read it yet though.
Yeah, I have a big pot of pork chili verde to make and I just can't face "standing over a hot stove."
Yarg. 10:30pm and I gotta ride to Cairns tomorrow. Night all. Happy fourth!
Head Smashed In today.
Moe Szyslak
Drank too much last night?
Checking out what is on teevee today and I don't see 1776. That's a shame. Good thing I tivoed it a couple of years ago.
BBQing chicken today. I feel a duty to be in front of a grill.
Apparently, it's a big "where the First Nations drove bison to their doom" tourist attraction in Canada.
so have they arrested Caribou Barbie yet?
Basically, the point was that Palin is quitting as governor because she’s not a quitter. Or a deceased salmon.
Oh GROAN. Our media is a mess. What is the fucking point? She practically blurted it out in her resignation when she lambasted "local/superficial wasteful political bloodsport." There's an indictment about to be handed down, DUH.
That's how it looks to me.
Checking out what is on teevee today and I don't see 1776. That's a shame. Good thing I tivoed it a couple of years ago.
QL-
didja see "John Adams" the hbo series? i think. it was pretty good. i would love to see more productions like it, "tom paine" "betsy ross" etc.
Apparently, it's a big "where the First Nations drove bison to their doom" tourist attraction in Canada.
plantsman
Heh. Yeah, we were through the area a few years back. Lovely country.
BBQing chicken today. I feel a duty to be in front of a grill.
We have a grill. Come on over to our house!
I bought ground turkey. I think we're gonna do turkey burgers and guacamole. You know, like the Founding Fathers did.
who was that loathsome congresswoman (from ohio i think) who pioneered the 'eye on the ball' metaphor in politics?
i thought it was real tasty when palin stole it.
her "brain-trust" meetings must be something to behold.
"Being Tundra Trash with Bad Hair is Not A Crime!" Palin screamed to anyone willing to listen.
who was that loathsome congresswoman (from ohio i think) who pioneered the 'eye on the ball' metaphor in politics?
stoat
Jean Schmidt. Suburban Cincinnati.
palin's resignation reminds me of nothing so much as perot's "suspending his candidacy" back in '92 when he began to get too much scrutiny, then magically reappearing (as i predicted to anyone who'd listen -- not many in those pre-blog days) a few weeks before the election.
if that's what she has in mind, i don't think it's going to work.
if i can't look at mine, hers isn't so bad instead.
Jean Schmidt. Suburban Cincinnati.
jac, satyrical
[raises nearly empty coffee cup in salute]
ChiDyke-1776 is much lighter and a musical.
[raises nearly empty coffee cup in salute]
stoat
Careful - the ball might get you.
hers isn't so bad instead.
chicago dyke, Also
wowsers
Mean Jean has kept a low profile lately. She is letting Bachmann do the heavy lifting for the crazy caucus.
Black Swamp Girl plants a tasty urn!
Next, Bachmann "switches teams" to become Sarah's Twat Twinkie!
Did you catch Sarah's comment about "real climate change"?
Our nephew's here from RI. Made the trek to Alaska last year and said people were so overly friendly it freaked him out. He felt like everyone had some con they were trying out on him. Also, when he applied for a job with just his high school diploma they tried to convince him he could be a teacher's aide even though the job description required an assoc. degree.
Desperation bordering on madness, he seemed to think. But then he was 17 when he made the trip. It may have been his first real culture shock experience.
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all i know is that today, i always remember what a fun bunch the Founding Fathers were. The Mothers too. and that at that time, 1/3 of the nation opposed them, and 1/3 really didn't give a shit. when i cross the Rainbow Bridge, i'm going to smoke some dope and drink some beer with Jefferson and Paine, and trade skirt chasing stories with Franklin. his will be better, i'm sure.
Next, Bachmann "switches teams" to become Sarah's Twat Twinkie!
oh no you dint.
that's not climate change we can believe in, my friends!
Yeah, I'm queer, I get to.
out of ink. cripes.
guess i have to email the doc to myself and print it upstairs. 
a harbinger, i fear, of a day full of adventures. fourth of july at arlington whole foods is always a joy.
my problem with taibbi is the same as my problem with chomsky. they both exist to make middle class people feel like they've been conned and duped, when it's actually the selfishness, greed and ignorance of those same middle class people that caused the problem in the first place.
From Taibbi comments . . . Can this person read, let alone think?
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she do, plants. Black Swamp is the Competition, fer shore. i'm not up to that level, quite yet.
What do you think the odds are that Sarah Palin had a tryst with Mark Sanford?
Bombs to drop?
Yeah, I'm queer, I get to.
plantsman,
see, it's downright spooky when i can see your posts coming 1.2min before you post them. that telepathy thing must be rubbing off.
Yes, damn those middle-class aspirers for wishing they could be real blood-suckers like the Overclass!
Good morning. I was out & about all day yesterday, and stopped in here for 5 minutes last night, but never noticed the Palin resignation post-so I was gobstruck to see the front page of the paper this morning.
Did you say you had some Corydalis growing? I'm thinking some "Blue Panda" would look fine in your garden.
I like a headline somebody came up with...
"For the first time, a Palin decides to pull out early".
What do you think the odds are that Sarah Palin had a tryst with Mark Sanford?
Bombs to drop?
GuyInMilwaukee
I wouldn't be surprised. That Sanford is a real pussy hound.
I'm starting to get a little pissed off that we ever had to have Sarah Palin as a news story in the first fucking place.
Holding a press conference on a windy day can lead to conspiracy theories.
Sully will be all over this one.
But Palin inspired one of Collins' best ever -- and a writer's gotta have inspiration!
Holding a press conference on a windy day can lead to conspiracy theories.
Sully will be all over this one.
trifecta
The Palin women must be the most fertile on Earth.
Also, this book Don't Swallow Your Gum! sounds like it might be fun:
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/20...&
WT.mc_ev=click
Maybe Sarah was the gal with whom Mark Sanford went "up to the ultimate line but did not cross".
How come the SarahPAC ad is on the front page here?
Just imagine hiking the Appalachian trails with Sarah Palin.
[shutter]
as Ron Artest (or at least @Real_Ron_Artest) said: "You can quit a job, but you can't quit stupid".
"Governor Sanford, would you like to see my Love Tunnel Of Holy Xian Sanctity?"
Because the Google ad-bot matches words, not context.
Just imagine hiking the Appalachian trails with Sarah Palin.
[shutter]
GuyInMilwaukee
You wouldn't need no sleeping bag to keep you warm.
"see it? I'd like to smite it with the rod of gods love!"
Wow. North Korea is launching missiles and the Palin bomb obliterates it. HAHAHA. Thats some powerful antiballistic missile shield.
I asked my neighbors to bring back moss from Florida. They brought lots!
The trees across from my patio are now festooned with moss. The festooner had a ball. Is this 1) illegal? 2) against good taste? 3) ecologically disastrous? I went in and threw my clothes into the washer and showered with Dr. Bronner's Peppermint Soap to avoid the chiggres!
Morning all. I read Barry's earlier comments and sent him condolences. 
Sarah, brightly: "Kay!"
Does "Spanish Moss" (which I'm assuming this is) naturally occur in your area?
"Governor Sanford, would you like to see my Love Tunnel Of Holy Xian Sanctity?"
plantsman,
nuh uh. with that one, it's more like "little Mark, you are a dot in Mine Eyes, just as trig is the creation of My Will. now bend over and accept Holy Scepter."
yes, i do have Corys. they're blooming nao. i will be taking pics later; i bought the memory card and when i put it in i can really take all the shots i want to. is the one you refer to blue? that'd be cool.
altho right now, i'm clearly out of space. not quite overplanted, but Cozy!
The chief judge of the federal appeals court in San Francisco was rebuked but not formally disciplined by a judicial panel Thursday for posting sexually explicit material on his private Web site and failing to remove it when he learned it was publicly accessible....
Kozinski, 58, was appointed to the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals by President Ronald Reagan in 1985 and began a seven-year term as chief judge in December 2007 by virtue of seniority. The court is the nation's largest appellate circuit and hears appeals from federal courts in California and eight other Western states.
The Los Angeles Times disclosed some of the contents of his now-disabled Web site in June 2008. They included images of masturbation, a slide-show striptease and two naked women on all fours painted as cows.
I asked my neighbors to bring back moss from Florida. They brought lots!
The trees across from my patio are now festooned with moss. The festooner had a ball. Is this 1) illegal? 2) against good taste? 3) ecologically disastrous? I went in and threw my clothes into the washer and showered with Dr. Bronner's Peppermint Soap to avoid the chiggres!
Morning all. I read Barry's earlier comments and sent him condolences.
Lenore and Bob | 07.04.09 - 8:56 am | #
What you have there I assume is Spanish moss. Which is really a bromeliad. I dont believe it will survive north of Mississippi,Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina.
Hmm, landscaping with Spanish moss? This might work if your house is a Victorian Gothic style. If you live in a Cape Cod, not so much.
Electric blue; looks like a school of Blue Tetras swimming above the foliage; it's wicked purty!
Wiki on Spanish Moss:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spa...ki/
Spanish_Moss
plants: Does "Spanish Moss" (which I'm assuming this is) naturally occur in your area?
No. Not only exotic but insane, I know. I'm grasping at straws of my childhood! I just have such fond memories of Spanish moss, I wanted to create a lil bit of Florida in Gerogia!
two naked women on all fours painted as cows.
Moe Szyslak
man, what is it with these people? they just always have to go there.
Bob and Lenore are in Georgia, so I reckon the heat and humidity are sufficient to support Spanish Moss.
The chief judge of the federal appeals court in San Francisco
The mrs. is calling bullshit on this one, and she's no fan of Reagan appointees.
The judge admitted to it...
If you have a mist nozzle, I'd mist it during dry spells to keep it going.
i'm seriously doubting spanish moss could survive winters up here. it's purdy tho.
I have no expectation whatsoever of survival of the moss. It's just a silly coup de théâtre. The cold will kill it, of course.
... I'm beginning to feel like a bad person.
The judge admitted to it...
what she meant is that it sounds like a trivial offense.
Hey, at least it's not a net with conches and glass floats hanging before a blue wall.
that article by Tabibi is astoundinng and the acts of goldman sachs are criminal
two naked women on all fours painted as cows.
Moe Szyslak
Jerseys?
it sounds like a trivial offense.
Which is why they didn't discipline him.
That Palin speech is astoundingly bad.
How did you know about the conches and glass floats??
C'mon down to the Lower 48 and herd your followers, Sarah!
Good morning.
Haven't seen the Palin speech yet.
"two naked women on all fours painted as cows."
there's probably a subculture that gets off on having sex with people painted as cows but I don't want to know about it
yes it is, Karin! crazee, in fact.
Hey, at least it's not a net with conches and glass floats hanging before a blue wall.
plantsman
whoa. where did you just go?
well, that's enuff gab for today. it's a holiday...from blogging and email! gotta git stuff done fer Bliss, too. later, taters. pray for me, i really do have to work outside today. if i'm off kilter when i return, it's bc i'm dizzy from bloodloss. have a good one. happy birfday america!
the cnn talking head was making fun of sarah's incoherency this a.m. and then he moved on to the sanford dereliction of duty
if there's one thing right-wing demagogues know well, it's dooty
I have been to the beach and collected conch shells myself; although "Olives" "augurs" and scallop shells do it for me, too.
When the painted women thing came out, the judge was hearing a pornography case.
Part of the speech is in a post down below, hbk, but it really hurts your brain to listen to it. She can't even string two thoughts together.
there's probably a subculture that gets off on having sex with people painted as cows but I don't want to know about it
Uncle Blodge, MTC
don't knock it - it can be a very mooving experience
Seattle Post Chronicle:
"Sarah Palin Federal Indictment: Embezzlement Reason For Resignation?"
by Jim Brogan
http://www.postchronicle.com/
new...212241812.shtml
When the painted women thing came out, the judge was hearing a pornography case.
Clearly a man of refinement and taste. He should know porn when he sees it.
Remember the "Milk Bar" in A Clockwork Orange ?
In Spain, it's called 'French moss'.
aeogia, I find it hard to believe that God loves us that much.
"don't knock it - it can be a very mooving experience"
udderly disgusting
Is the fourteen year old with child?
plantsman has moss mail.
These cow puns cud get ugly.
Is the fourteen year old with child?
Chairman Mo
A-Rod?
(I can't believe I said that)
We have lichens that look very much like Spanish Moss near Salem, OR. I've seen it with my own eyes.
"These cow puns cud get ugly."
Steer us in the right direction.
Seattle Post Chronicle:
"Sarah Palin Federal Indictment: Embezzlement Reason For Resignation?"
by Jim Brogan
http://www.postchronicle.com/ new...212241812.shtml
aeogia | 07.04.09 - 9:11 am
I blame First Dude. The greedy bastard.
Seattle Post Chronicle:
"Sarah Palin Federal Indictment: Embezzlement Reason For Resignation?"
by Jim Brogan
well, she looked guilty of something yesterday other than the regular set of lies she spewed - it was an astounding performance had us in stiches at dinnertime last night - the consensus here was she got caught with her hand in the till or her panties at half mast
Bingo! V predicted the other shoe dropping.
"Piper, lube up Willow and bring Alex in here!"
Ah so its the kickbacks she got on building the house. I knew there were some unanswered questions there.
Good morning, and Happy 4th, batpeeps!
I know when it's time to pass the bacon for victory.
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PLANTSMAN! Well, at least that makes me feel better about my comment. . .
Heeheehee
Here's a link to it at Rolling Stone - - please give them their deserved page views.
http://www.rollingstone.com/
poli..._bubble_machine
Well, it could explain her statement in the speech that her resignation would save the state millions of dollars.
Corrupt Christians Abstaining, it doesn't get much better than that!
Blodgewhore afore I go...
some patriotic vids on da blog
look if you wanna
I know when it's time to pass the bacon for victory.
That's the worst cow pun I've ever seen.
Apparently blatant graft is the way they do things up in Alaska. It's kind of endearing really, compared to the covert approach popular in D.C. (the best government money can buy).
Well, it could explain her statement in the speech that her resignation would save the state millions of dollars.
Sez here it's a federal offense. She's probably having her lawyer bill the state, tho.
Paul Begala: Sarah Palin Turns Pro.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
pa...o_b_225633.html
"Sarah Palin Federal Indictment: Embezzlement Reason For Resignation?"
The woman pretty clearly cannot make a distinction between her own money and that belonging to others. Donate those Republican outfits yet, Sarah?
Headline at HuffPo:
"Sarah Palin Makes Mark Sanford Look Stable."
Josh:
Either Palin is resigning ahead of some titanic scandal (which should emerge in short order if it exists) or her resignation was triggered by an even more extreme mental instability than we'd previously suspected.
m out
look if you wanna
Uncle Blodge, MTC
I looked, and the Hitler video cracked me up.
So many feet of clay appearing in the Rethuglican Party all at Once!
My Stars and Garters!
(faints)
Begala:
Gov. Palin capitalized words at random - whole words, like "TO," "HELP," and "AND," and the first letter of "Troops."
Sounds like she's naming children again. Maybe Willow really IS preggers.
I guess we're going to have to resume using that ungodly word "to vet" again. As in, "Senator McCain, why was your vetting of Governor Palin a dismal failure?"
It doesn't feel like the 4th.
I agree with Josh, except that the correct answer could well be 'both (a) and (b)'
Well, my company has left me alone and still.
(That is not all bad. Anyone want another cup of coffee, I have a fresh pot. Good stuff too)
I capitalize WORDS sometimes, somewhat like a volume control in type.
GS does what it does because that is what capitalism is all about - PROFIT uber alles. they are the embodiment of our shit system of 'competition'
GS is just very good at it. The tentacles of GS spread far, they are huge 'investors' in asia and other markets.
what i don't like about the article is that it does not indict our system, but instead looks to scapegoat GS. i don't like GS like anyone else, but if it weren't them, someone else would fuck us
Speaking of Marshall, is there some new rule that news websites must follow the INCREDIBLY AWFUL "design" of Huffington Post.
There's a reason I never go to Huffington Post, Josh...
I guess we're going to have to resume using that ungodly word "to vet" again.
That's an apt borrowing from Englandese, representing a concept for which Merkin has no elegant word.
A trenchant quote from the link:
If America is circling the drain, Goldman Sachs has found a way to be that drain - an extremely unfortunate loophole in the system of Western democratic capitalism, which never foresaw that in a society governed passively by free markets and free elections, organized greed always defeats disorganized democracy.
Even before the current financial meltdown I was 75% convinced that capitalism = total corruption. Now I'm 100% convinced. There's never enough regulation to prevent it from being that way. It's screw or be screwed by any means necessary. Anyone who denies this is simply a liar.
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HaloScan, Cut. It. Out.
If Sarah Palin is indicted, I may have to set off my own personal fireworks.
Donate those Republican outfits yet, Sarah?
When sane people want to rectify mistakes or clear up potential scandals, they do it in public, with cameras and receipts.
Maybe they can sell tickets for House and Closet Tours of the Palin residence.
It doesn't feel like the 4th.
Shared Humanity
Felt more like it yesterday here. We had booms all around us last night. My ex says it's because it's cheaper to hire the fireworks for the day before. Plus the main firms are doing the big cities (closest one 50 miles) today.
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I just realized my previous comment may have caused a misunderstanding. The Hitler video is NOT part of Uncle Blodge's patriotic vid post. It's a spoof, in an earlier post.
Keep meaning to post this for Atrios - the cover story on the free SF fishwrap this week is "The Politics of Parking."
Enjoy!
Howdy peeps.
I figure if I can schlep the suitcase to the station and then from another station on and off a bus, I have not overpacked.
Goat stew in the country today. The fireworks didn't get arranged, so we'll probably just have marshmallows around the campfire.
Even before the current financial meltdown I was 75% convinced that capitalism = total corruption. Now I'm 100% convinced. There's never enough regulation to prevent it from being that way. It's screw or be screwed by any means necessary. Anyone who denies this is simply a liar.
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Tralfaz
My nephew, the new Buddha, is visiting. A few months ago I expressed my displeasure with the Obama Administration for taking on more and more RESTRICTIVE and SECRETIVE government policies and their FAVORING the wealthy over everyone else.
He told me I was nuts and to just "Not be so negative."
He is here now and I am "Pollyanna" to his doom and gloom.
I guess the difference is that he is young and thinks things will change.
(But I made him apologize. )
"So many feet of clay appearing in the Rethuglican Party all at Once!"
Right. So God forbid the fucking Democrats and Obama should rise up and kick their right-wing asses into oblivion once and for all. The reason they're not about to? Fear and greed: money and power proferred by their corporate Masters.
It's silly, but I like it, so I'll repost it.
(to the tune of "Jesus Loves The Little Children")
Stick a fork in Sarah Palin,
Stick a fork in her she's done!
She is Crispy, She is Moist
Let the Multitudes Rejoice
Stick a fork in Sarah Palin, She Is Done!
And this one's for Moe!
And David Niewart, if he's out there...
i'm just going to horn in here and say that software updates are bull. they milk you for all your time, dairy even really expensive if you've got that bad luck. i feel like i'm stepping in it everytime i have to doo this. sorry to bellow, but i was supposed to be outside by now with bells on. ah well, i'll moove along...
Integral ♠ Lit,
Hmmmm, I don't have mail 
The Palin resignation speech is a classic. Really, I haven't been so entertained by the GOP since the Katie Couric interview.
Trouble with Taibi's piece is that it's basically saying: The Jews did it to us.
That served to explain WWI, justify WWII, and now seems to be trundles out again. So the MSM is taking a reading of reactions before going with that ball.
Keep meaning to post this for Atrios - the cover story on the free SF fishwrap this week is "The Politics of Parking."
Don't forget to cramp ur tires.
Waitin for the other Palin shoe to drop feels like J.R. Ewing just got shot. Whodunnit?
"The Palin resignation speech is a classic. Really, I haven't been so entertained by the GOP since the Katie Couric interview."
I think she was on the verge of speaking in tongues.
"Whodunit?"
Really. What could possibly be worse than all the previous stories we've heard?
Well, it could explain her statement in the speech that her resignation would save the state millions of dollars.
Karin Hussein
Got up, turned on MSNBC. They replayed the wacky basketball segment, talked to a guest analyst, etc. When five minutes passed without a reference to the "millions and millions of dollars" part of the speech, I yelled "arg" and stopped watching.
Don't know how much more obvious she could get about bailing out before the law comes knocking, but apparently she wasn't obvious enough for some "journalists."
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When sane people want to rectify mistakes or clear up potential scandals, they do it in public, with cameras and receipts.
Cindy McCain, like most North Central ladies, donates to the Assistance League. I figured Mrs. Palin could've just given over a garbage sack-full of stuff and Mrs. McCain could have dropped it off the next time she was there. It would have been so easy!
(But I made him apologize. )
DWD-YDWETAKIT?
I know what you mean. I wish I was in better touch with some of my college classmates who entered the financial industry back before the bubbles. I wonder if they are still there now. But I'm afraid those guys will always be true believers in 'wealth makes right'. I feel sorry for them. That industry will use them up and throw them to the curb just like it will our entire country. There's only ever a few at the top and they have largely been the same for the last >100 years.
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Rats!
DWD
I'm so behind in my grading and I have to get it done before I leave for a short vaca tomorrow.
I'll be catching up on my correspondence by the end of the day hopefully.
Hope your 4th is fun today!
man this is a tough room sometimes...
The destruction of the corporation as a player in our society must be our first priority.Otherwise we will be made serfs in a modern update of debt bondage Feudalism.
.if we are not there already.
Morning, all.
So -- are we done with the Sarah Palin porno video and meth speculations, or what?
I don't see why Parnell doesn't have the same lame-duck status she claims she's saving Alaska from.
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Trouble with Taibi's piece is that it's basically saying: The Jews did it to us.
That served to explain WWI, justify WWII, and now seems to be trundles out again. So the MSM is taking a reading of reactions before going with that ball.
SteinL
I really HATE this jump from assholes to an ethnic group that seemingly ameliorates criticism of the bastards because it is THEN ethnic hate.
HTG, I really have no idea of what you are talking about. The article points out that a group of individuals conspired (with others) to manipulate the financial system to their own gain.
If the article speculated that the ties among the players were that they attended the same synagogue, I could understand - though not excuse - your generalization.
(And if it were a group of sled dog owners getting together to screw working people, it would be no different.)
Over at TPM; Absolutely the finest example of black-is-white upsidedownism evah...
"...it may be tempting and more comfortable to just keep your head down, plod along, and appease those who demand: "Sit down and shut up", but that's the worthless, easy path; that's a quitter's way out."
Quitters stick with it. Winners quit...
It is, chidy; there is no directing the stream most times. I like Software Updates like "Snow Leopard" is going to be: $29, keeps all features and gives you back 6GB of space. That's something to aspire to!
I don't believe Mrs. Palin understands what the term 'lame duck' means.
Hi ChiDy!
I avoid software updates whenever possible.
I hate when I keep getting the little bubble: You have updates ready - I ignore it and then eventually, I come in and the damn thing has updated itself.
Very hackish:
Newspapers Exposed: Publications to Sell Pieces of Themselves
I don't believe Mrs. Palin understands what the term 'lame duck' means.
GWPDA
Or dead duck.
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Only the Villagers could view Palin's quitting as a political masterstroke. Their GOP puppetmasters don't even believe that. Even if there is more scandal to be revealed, her mystique has increased with enough beltway pundits to keep her political stock viable.
That should be a good thing for the Dems but sometime in 2011 NPR will probably do a fluff piece on her and half of their listeners will have forgotten all the stuff from 2008-2009.
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Totally OT, for baseball fans, but if you want to hear a really entertaining interview with a guy who just wrote a book about Satchel Paige, here's the link to WNYC.
http://www.wnyc.org/flashplayer/...2Fxspf%
2F135634
Click on "Satchel Paige" on the right side to go straight to that part of the program.
Gotta run, things to do.
Frau Palin is going to "go Gore". She'll be doing a documentary called "Drill Baby Drill!" and will win a rightwing think-tank Peace Prize.
"I know if I just keep praying, this river of shit I've created will just disappear!"
Marcellina, has the beau been to the US of Eh?
Duck Flambé!
Marcellina, in Urlaub,
Nah, she got caught with hand in the cookie jar. Probably with the construction company that built the Wasilla Rec Center and HER house at the same time with the same materials. . . .
Y'know, Palin's problems are all because no one from the McCain campaign would hold hands and pray with her.
what i don't like about the article is that it does not indict our system, but instead looks to scapegoat GS. i don't like GS like anyone else, but if it weren't them, someone else would fuck us
mogwai | 07.04.09 - 9:27 am | #
Son and I had a long conversation that touched on this yesterday. We claim to have a sense of history and hold up capitalism as the example of how best to organize human society.
How long has capitalism actually been an organizing principle? 200 years....maybe 300? Where is this taking us as a species, consuming vast amounts of scarce resources and despoiling the planet. And yet we, as individuals, continue to play our little role within this larger landscape, unable to challenge the assumption that capitalism is not the problem.
We simply do not have the will or intelligence to correct what is wrong.
I think I'll go out and get a double skim latte.
"Moose Chili, Matt?"
Gromit, yes but before he met me. Road trips out west with friends, business trips to Florida.
Money's tight now but he will come over with me eventually.
Moose Loaf, also.
Bailin: Hello. I've decided to make an insane speech on the Friday before a holiday. I'm leaving office 17 months early while making vague references to preventing investigations and quoting refrigerator magnets. kthxbai!
MSM: Clearly, the important question here is where did she get those shoes.
FM: (bangs head on desk)
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Oy gevalt -- they're still running Billy Mays commercials on MSNBC right now.
BTW, his memorial service is being held at an Abbey Rents in downtown Burbank on Tuesday.
sigh. of course it won't work unless i update that too. /chomps snickers/
How long has capitalism actually been an organizing principle? 200 years....maybe 300? Where is this taking us as a species, consuming vast amounts of scarce resources and despoiling the planet. And yet we, as individuals, continue to play our little role within this larger landscape, unable to challenge the assumption that capitalism is not the problem.
We simply do not have the will or intelligence to correct what is wrong.
I think I'll go out and get a double skim latte.
Shared Humanity
I am not ready to indict the economic system as being the fault of this mess. I AM ready (and willing) to blame those who conspired to allow the rape of the people - Republicans/Democrats/Corporate bankers/ Corporations/ Teh Wealthy among us and so on.
I really do not see ANY change coming though. (But Obama is pissing enough of the "worker bees" that the next time he asks, he may be met with silence. )
Money's tight now but he will come over with me eventually.
Marcellina
I completely understand. And from the diving photos, he looks way too tall to squeeze in your carry-on.
Trouble with Taibi's piece is that it's basically saying: The Jews did it to us.
Post Jew, ergo propter Jew.
I can understand, up to a pint, a rabid Xian going all Jewy-Jew on everybody. "They killed X!!1! They ruined everything!". It's religious bullshit, but it at least has some sort of basis in "history", if you believe all that Bible crap. What I've never understood is the bigot-on-the-street blaming all the financial woes in the world, during whatever era you like, on one religious group. Especially since--again, if you believe ATBC--it was the King of Kings, who was to be essentially, the King of the Jews, who threw out the moneychangers. Maybe you had to be there...
Simoniz hasn't pulled theirs. It's icky.
have only glanced at my copy of the taibbi article, but i'm struck by the following: GOLDMAN SCAMMED HOUSING INVESTORS BY BETTING AGAINST ITS OWN CRAPPY MORTGAGES.
this is sort of like a lawyer buying malpractice insurance with himself as the beneficiary so that when he fucks up he actually turns a profit on it, isn't it?
i don't think you can do that, can you? i mean, legally.
I am not ready to indict the economic system as being the fault of this mess.
DWD-YDWETAKIT?
I assume you mean cause, not fault.
I am.
Morning,
I read Taibbi's piece and, like DWD, saw no indictment of a religion. A culture, yes, the culture of greed.
I'm always a bit leery of grand unifying theories, but this one made my antennae twitch.
I am not ready to indict the economic system as being the fault of this mess.
I understand this....hell, I'm a business executive! But any attempt to regulate or mitigate the excesses immediately exposes you to charges of socialism or worse.
We are heading for a world of hurt.
" From Beyond The Grave, Here's Billy Mays For Oxi-Clean!"
Sarah Palin has been hired as the new spokesmodel for Oxi-Clean.
CNN really messed up the comedy value of the Palin clip by trying to remove the bird calls.
MOAR BIRDZ!ELEVENTY!!
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"Gets funky Moose and Wolf-Blood Stains Out, You Betcha!"
Trouble with Taibi's piece is that it's basically saying: The Jews did it to us.
SteinL
He didn't explicity say that, I don't think but I agree, I saw it too.
His points about Goldman are probably true, but they aren't unique to Goldman by any means. The system is flawed, and in any flawed system there will be opportunities to make money at a cost to the system. That's what Goldman, and all the others like them, did.
Fuck capitalism.
Yodeling season!
*blam!*
What's that part right in the beginning where it sounds like she's talking about "fishies"? I guess there's a tape overlap of something.
sych that, bitches. mission accomplished.
i really hate it took me an hour, tho. komputerz should be easier than this.
Damn You, Yeller Bar!
Plantsman,
Word is that Sarah has developed a fascination for fashionable clothes since the election and she is driving the Palin household towards bankruptcy. Todd has insisted that she peddle her ass to the highest bidder or get out.
Fox News will be announcing that she is joining the network in August.
More and more I think injecting (more and more) stimulus money into the system is akin to pumping blood into the corpse of Michael jackson.
It's dead. It ain't getting up again anytime soon. And Obama's focus on giving money to those who caused the problem in the first place, and not to those in need, is increasingly pissing me off.
You betcha Oxi-Clean will get the Hussein Obama stain out of the oval office rug.
She was saying how only dead salmon "go with the flow" unlike herself; who bails, like out of a plane.
Word is that Sarah has developed a fascination for fashionable clothes since the election
How many coats does she own?
Be sure to thank the President and Congress. This week, with news of some 467,000 jobs lost in June, the Bureau of Labor Statistics estimates that the U.S. has now lost about two million jobs since the economic stimulus package passed. Even more notable is that the average workweek has been slashed to 33 hours - the lowest number on record. When the President signed his $787 billion stimulus package into law, he confidently asserted that unemployment would not exceed eight percent. If Congress hadn’t passed it, he warned, it would rise to nine percent by 2010. Well, unemployment reached 9.5 percent last month, meaning, by the President’s own logic, that his stimulus package has failed.
No wonder eschatards want to talk about Sarah Palin.
I am not ready to indict the economic system as being the fault of this mess.
ergo why it continues. no one wants to indict the system, it is just good enough to keep people silent. just like the arguments against single-payer healthcare
to expect the 'elected' to do the right thing is like believing in the tooth fairy
I mean, it sounds like she actually says "fishies".
I hate when I keep getting the little bubble: You have updates ready - I ignore it and then eventually, I come in and the damn thing has updated itself.
Integral ♠ Lit
Most progs allow you to turn off updates in Preferences somewhere. Bit hard to find, sometimes...
oh, dear. this may take a while. i guess i have a lot of files.
She was saying how only dead salmon "go with the flow" unlike herself; who bails, like out of a plane.
plantsman, mad google skillz
The totally fucking nuts wing of our politics would be entertaining if it weren't for the fact that they often win elections. Viz, Bachmann, Michelle, and most Repub senators.
What's that part right in the beginning where it sounds like she's talking about "fishies"?
The transcript says "the only things that go with the flow are dead fish"
Musta been on someone's fridge.
No wonder eschatards want to talk about Sarah Palin.
Kira | 07.04.09 - 10:01 am | #
Your concern is noted.
Wow. I read that whole piece and still I'm not DT'd. Dad musta hadda rager last night!
they often win elections. Viz, Bachmann, Michelle, and most Repub senators.
Adam Hominem
Who's Viz? I must have missed one.
When my lover was bleeding out from sepsis, the staff asked if I wanted them to continue transfusing him. I said, "if it won't do any good, I'm sure he'd rather it be given to someone it could help." His relatives got pissed.
Adam,
I guess maybe it is my naivite that causes me to bristle when any indictment of the banking/investment houses/ et al suddenly turns into an example of racial hatred.
IT totally misses the point: The problem is NOT the ethnicity of the players - it is the PLAYERS regardless of heritage.
Being a provincial who has only personally had any dealings at all with a total of THREE Jewish people (and they were all nice people) I just do not see this.
And capitalism can work as long as it is allowed to: when you start making exceptions - it is doomed to fail.
speaking of salmon, my redneck brother in law pronounces it salmon.
Most progs allow you to turn off updates in Preferences somewhere. Bit hard to find, sometimes...
Meanie-meanie, tickle a person
This is what is fucked up about my computer savvy.
I'm worried if I turn that off I'll miss something really important.
So I leave it on and ignore it.
Maybe that says something about more than my computer savvy. . .
No wonder eschatards want to talk about Sarah Palin.
Kira
4 posts up I criticize Obama. Once again, that favorite of the right, the straw-man argument. "You never criticize Obama! Waaaah!"
oh, dear. this may take a while. i guess i have a lot of files.
chicago dyke
Faster to unzip than unbutton, I always say.
Several weeks ago a rightwing type coworker and I were having one of our daily arguements when we agreed that the basic difference between our views was that I believed that it was business screwing us at every opportunity, and he believed it was government. We were both half right. This story in RS really depresses me. I believed the republican party was just a subsidiary of big business, now I see its both parties, including guys like Obama. Happy 4th all
Goodbye, Kira; do enjoy Killfile.
I mean, it sounds like she actually says "fishies".
Marcellina, in Urlaub
AEI edited out the part where she admitted her part in an enormous conspiracy to use poison fishies to attack large urban concentrations of progress voters.
I'm checking the kerning on the video now! Breaking...
Actually, I was wondering about that too.
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More and more I think injecting (more and more) stimulus money into the system is akin to pumping blood into the corpse of Michael jackson.
It's dead. It ain't getting up again anytime soon. And Obama's focus on giving money to those who caused the problem in the first place, and not to those in need, is increasingly pissing me off.
Adam Hominem |
i think the correct internet tradition is "It's dead, Jim." but yeah, this is basically what i think. it depends on how you define "the system" but the way i say it is: we're broke as a nation, and now they're giving away the seedcorn and our first borns to the rich. who've already taken everything. a doomy friend of mine believes this will end up in feudalism on the principle of the snake that consumes its own tail. freedoms are a luxury, a resource that can be sold. so perhaps we'll get to that.
I guess maybe it is my naivite that causes me to bristle when any indictment of the banking/investment houses/ et al suddenly turns into an example of racial hatred.
IT totally misses the point: The problem is NOT the ethnicity of the players - it is the PLAYERS regardless of heritage.
DWD-YDWETAKIT?
I certainly agree with you there.
His relatives got pissed.
plantsman
But you knew him better, and you were right. [hugs]
In the fall of 2007, I told my brother that we were heading for double digit unemployment. In January, 2008, I pulled all of our (wife and mine) investments out of the stock market preserving most of our capital.
We are still in the middle of the largest deleveraging event in all of human history. This will not get substantially better any time soon.
Fielding, I was beginning to worry that my hep Alaskan vocabulary was failing me.
It's dead. It ain't getting up again anytime soon. And Obama's focus on giving money to those who caused the problem in the first place, and not to those in need, is increasingly pissing me off.
Adam Hominem
those who caused the problem in the first place
Again, yep - and nothing of their heritage or religion is really relevant.
The transcript says "the only things that go with the flow are dead fish"
Musta been on someone's fridge.
Gromit
Jinkies, gang, I thought there was a mystery to solve. Rats.
I'm still laughing about the fridge magnet.
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This will not get substantially better any time soon.
Or, never, by conventional measures.
It's dead. It ain't getting up again anytime soon. And Obama's focus on giving money to those who caused the problem in the first place, and not to those in need, is increasingly pissing me off.
Adam Hominem
The system isn't dead, it's just very sick. If it werer dead, there wouldn't be anything for us to eat. And while there are reasonable arguments on both sides about the TARP strategy, the stimulus is another matter. The gummint investing in research and infrastructure improvements is an essential way to create jobs and the potential for wage growth -- the thing that has been sorely lacking from our economy since the beginning of the Bushista regime. One can certainly argue that the stimulus isn't enough or correctly targeted, but saying it serves no purpose is just wrong.
Good morning and Happy 4th of July!
I wanted to have this coffee and watch Wimbledon but my mother just called and is on the way so I have to prepare for the white glove treatment.
[smiles weakly]
this is sort of like a lawyer buying malpractice insurance with himself as the beneficiary so that when he fucks up he actually turns a profit on it, isn't it?
i don't think you can do that, can you? i mean, legally.
stoat
Don't give 'em any ideas...
i think the correct internet tradition is "It's dead, Jim." but yeah, this is basically what i think. it depends on how you define "the system" but the way i say it is: we're broke as a nation, and now they're giving away the seedcorn and our first borns to the rich. who've already taken everything. a doomy friend of mine believes this will end up in feudalism on the principle of the snake that consumes its own tail. freedoms are a luxury, a resource that can be sold. so perhaps we'll get to that.
chicago dyke, Also
I see us heading increasingly towards a third-world model, with a few mega-rich, and the rest of us struggling to get by, with the government and police available to keep us in our shanty towns.
Good morning!
So last night, for the first time ever, I watched Red Dawn (aided by the new Rifftrax commentary by Mike Nelson & Joel McHale).
So THIS is the movie that is the right wing's holy grail?
What a stupid, illogical, adolescent piece of shit.
Funny how all of the wingnuts' favorite fantasies revolve around the destruction of America. And yet, we're the unpatriotic ones....
Being a provincial who has only personally had any dealings at all with a total of THREE Jewish people (and they were all nice people) I just do not see this.
Having married a Jewish woman, I lie awake at night worrying about my foreskin.
Moe!
Where are you now?
Thanks, Gromit; it was a hard time -- even knowing I was right didn't ease the pain.
Good morning, folks!
Anyone is who tired of the Jackson stuff, avoid MSNBC on Tuesday.
I heard it's going to be Michael Jackson all day.
Overgrow teh Gubbmint.
The system isn't dead, it's just very sick. If it werer dead, there wouldn't be anything for us to eat.
er, people ate, even in the Depression. Even during the Black Death. Even, in the Stone Age.
The system isn't dead, it's just very sick. If it werer dead, there wouldn't be anything for us to eat. And while there are reasonable arguments on both sides about the TARP strategy, the stimulus is another matter. The gummint investing in research and infrastructure improvements is an essential way to create jobs and the potential for wage growth -- the thing that has been sorely lacking from our economy since the beginning of the Bushista regime. One can certainly argue that the stimulus isn't enough or correctly targeted, but saying it serves no purpose is just wrong.
slartibartfast
By far the largest portion of Obama's stimulus money is and did go to the banksters.
Im in Taber, Alberta. Heading to breakfast, then to Head Smashed In.
Terry C - Castrating B*tch*
Did you read Bob Herbert today? Really a nice piece of writing.
Gummo, they are like the unbalanced volunteer firefighter who starts fires, so he can play hero.
Why does this sound so familiar?
The Iranian government has made it a practice to publicize confessions from political prisoners, often subject to sleep deprivation, solitary confinement and torture, rights groups say.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/0...confess.html?
hp
I see us heading increasingly towards a third-world model, with a few
mega-rich, and the rest of us struggling to get by, with the government
and police available to keep us in our shanty towns.
Or, essentially returning to the standard economic pattern and practice prior to 1945... Not unlikely.
Here's a link to Herbert:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/0....html?th&
emc=th
Did you read Bob Herbert today? Really a nice piece of writing.
DWD-YDWETAKIT?
Got linkee?
Im in Taber, Alberta. Heading to breakfast, then to Head Smashed In.
Moe Szyslak
Do they still do that to hippies? Bummer.
And capitalism can work as long as it is allowed to: when you start making exceptions - it is doomed to fail.
DWD
i try to be a good amurkin and believe this, but in my heart of hearts i don't. capitalism is guaranteed to always fail and be replaced by oligarchy bc there will always be someone with money willing to bend the rules. rethugs got to be in charge bc they mastered cheating, which fair players can't beat. now cheating is all they know. if we're to have capitalism, we'll need a total restart. the only place "moderate" dems and neofascist thugs are taking us is tyranny and depression.
Did you read Bob Herbert today? Really a nice piece of writing.
DWD-YDWETAKIT?
Usually I'm wary of writers who draw society-wide implications from one person's life, but in this case, I thought he was right on, and you're right, it was very well written.
Or maybe that's just 'cause he echoed my own thoughts?
Gail Collins' Modoesque snark was well-placed today, too.
I heard it's going to be Michael Jackson all day.
Terry C - Castrating B*tch*
It's his revival tour.
Boom, Terry C; before you asked.
Based on my reading of the article, an essential feature of any reconstitution of our system will involve hefting the antitrust axe to cut the Goldman Sachses of the world into pieces small enough that they can't singlehandedly run up bubbles like this.
Based on my reading of the article, an essential feature of any reconstitution of our system will involve hefting the antitrust axe to cut the Goldman Sachses of the world into pieces small enough that they can't singlehandedly run up bubbles like this.
slartibartfast
Show me a modern politician with the ovaries of a Teddy Roosevelt; and if you can find one, how the hell can they get anywhere near the reigns of power?
CD,
I agree: you just took the argument one step further.
But I simply see no alternative to the present system: and people ain't getting no smarter.
I heard it's going to be Michael Jackson all day.
Terry C - Castrating B*tch*
It's his revival tour.
cosmic tumbler
Oh, it gets worse.
The rehearsals he was doing for his tour that never happened?
They have about 100 hours of footage. So it's getting released.
If I was ever imprisoned and threatened with torture, I would confess to whatever they wanted me to confess to. Anyone on the outside who didn't see that as complete b.s. due to duress would just be an idiot.
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white glove treatment
Don't forget to dust behind the fridge, and seal off the kids' rooms with crime scene tape.
Im in Taber, Alberta. Heading to breakfast, then to Head Smashed In.
Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! You're going to go thru Ft. McLeod, Pincher Creek and Frank! (Would you mind buying me a Head-Smashed-In-Buffalo-Jump mug? I smashed mine a couple years ago and sure miss it.)
in yurop, for example, manufacturers need to comply with the rohs standard (like no lead solder in electronic equipment, for example)...this is a requirement that few americans think about - the yuropeeons realize that PEOPLE are more important than CAPITALISM...in the US, that standard has been shit on and laughed at by our capitalists in charge
in yurop they have a right to privacy which makes it illegal for business to gather info on me, making google et al. have to work differently there
you can tell me to move to yurop, but the point is that our system enables the fuck yous to continue against we the people.
Why should we "recover" to a system that fell apart?
We shouldn't want a "recovery." We should want to build a new system entirely.
"Green" Land!
people ain't getting no smarter.
I agree.
Time magazine next month: "Is Darwin Dead?"
Oh, Moe; you and your wacky radical notions!
I'll see what I can do, GWPDA.
We shouldn't want a "recovery." We should want to build a new system entirely.
There is a socialist in our midst.
Tralfaz
I love the product line. I might just buy a shirt and cap.
mother just called and is on the way so I have to prepare for the white glove treatment.
oh, i hate that. really. out last shouting match was about that, and i don't have shouting matches very often. but she made me lose it; some crap about a little bit of burned something in the oven. grrr.
We shouldn't want a "recovery." We should want to build a new system entirely.
Moe Szyslak
Yeah, that'll work fer shure!
Let's do it now.
Pat Buchanan's saying Sarah Palin is a genius.
Isn't Pat a little old to be letting Little Pat do all his thinking?
I watched Red Dawn
*pats Gromit reassuringly*
"John has a long mustache... the chair is against the wall..."
Back in the early days of HBO they showed it four times a week.
It's better watching it baked off your ass, but yes, the force of suck is strong with this movie. Not just the politics... the acting, the cinematic cliches... oy.
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Fielding --
I am not Gromit.
Gotta go...
I see us heading increasingly towards a third-world model, with a few mega-rich, and the rest of us struggling to get by, with the government and police available to keep us in our shanty towns.
Adam Hominem | 07.04.09 - 10:08 am | #
Which is pretty much why I've decided to spend my golden years devoted to hookers and blow.
Seriously -- why not?
We shouldn't want a "recovery." We should want to build a new system entirely.
Moe Szyslak
I'd be happy with a better beer.
this is such a fucking strange speech (palin's) i can't even believe someone wrote it.
stoat
She made it up as she went along?
How about: "it's a national Holiday, mom; and I'm off and there's no way I'm letting you run my ass ragged today. Love Ya!"
By far the largest portion of Obama's stimulus money is and did go to the banksters.
Adam Hominem
AFAICT, that is just completely false statement. You show me where all the money is going to the banksters in this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Ame...ent_Act_of_2009
You can't do it, my friend. Why would you even say such a thing?
be replaced by oligarchy bc there will always be someone with money willing to bend the rules
Perfect. Couldn't agree more. And it's not just the actual green - if you have money, you have education, you have a sense of entitlement, you have privilege. That sense creates the ability to stand up to forces that want to suppress, and therefore avoid or at least minimize suppression by those that have. And you have a better chance of getting what you want.
Gladwell's book "Outliers" addresses this somewhat.
Remotely connected to Herbert's point, I looked down at my clothes today while on the train and found myself thinking, huh, I am dressed like a 19-yr-old. Maybe I should, ya know, have more adult leisure clothes.
Hug to plantsman.
Based on my reading of the article, an essential feature of any reconstitution of our system will involve hefting the antitrust axe to cut the Goldman Sachses of the world into pieces small enough that they can't singlehandedly run up bubbles like this.
slartibartfast
I think you're naive. As Bush the Lesser proved in abundance, no safeguards are safe enough when the monsters take over, which they will do upon occasion.
Oh, I bet it's just unbelievably gorgeous where Moe is right now.
Fielding Mellish
Instead of that dreck, why not watch something interesting. When I think of that movie (Red Dawn) I always think of this one: Southern Comfort. (Same lead actor, I believe)
One is a decent, interesting movie about a clash of cultures and the other is Red Dawn.
Isn't Pat a little old to be letting Little Pat do all his thinking?
Gummo
You must have missed his last interview with that busty spokesperson from eXtenZe. Now available as a tasty cola drink!
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Shriveled Little Pat is all Pat has.
I'd be happy with a better beer.
Christ! You've got to admit that capitalism has delivered in spades on this one for the past 20 years.
How about: "it's a national Holiday, mom; and I'm off and there's no way I'm letting you run my ass ragged today. Love Ya!"
plantsman, mad google skillz
Even better -- just agree with everything she says.
"This place is a pigsty!"
Yup, sure is.
"I don't know how you can live like this!"
Amazing, isn't it?
"You should be ashamed of yourself."
Yup, sure should.
etc.
Thanks, nj.
Which is pretty much why I've decided to spend my golden years devoted to hookers and blow.
Seriously -- why not?
steve simels
Hey, if it's good enough for the banksters and the oleogarchs, why the hell not...
We shouldn't want a "recovery." We should want to build a new system entirely.
There is a socialist in our midst.
Shared Humanity
there's an anarchist in your midst. a collectivist, a la MacLeod. i don't talk about that very often but that's what i want. why do we need to share "a system" in the first place? i'm not saying i'm a Galtian, but i'm not big on mass conformity either. a lot of our problem right now is that "too big" applies to too many situations.
Taibbi points out that a big chunk of AIG bailout went to GS, making them whole while pensioneers of the automakers have to settle for fifty cents on the dollar.
That stinks. And it also highlights stoat's point about GS insuring against losses they were directly responsible for causing.
You can't do it, my friend. Why would you even say such a thing?
slartibartfast
I apologize; I shouldn't have said stimulus money. But the actual expenditures to fix this problem, of those certainly an awful lot went and is going still to the banksters. Yes, I'd say tha majority. How much did we pay to bail out AIG, alone??
.i try to be a good amurkin and believe this, but in my heart of hearts i don't. capitalism is guaranteed to always fail and be replaced by oligarchy bc there will always be someone with money willing to bend the rules.
All political and economic systems tend to evolve towards oligarchy. Communist systems do it even faster than pure capitalism does. At least in a social-democratic market system, the public can in theory require the rules to be made so that it evolves towards an oligarchy more slowly.
Christ! You've got to admit that capitalism has delivered in spades on this one for the past 20 years.
Shared Humanity
Agreed, but why stop now?
Tralfaz
I love the product line. I might just buy a shirt and cap.
cosmic tumbler
Thanks! (All proceeds go to our 15 month old daughter's college fund.)
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You can't do it, my friend. Why would you even say such a thing?
slartibartfast
There are several "Parts" to the stimulus package. And perhaps, you are correct while being wrong.
The stimulus package should NOT be separated from the TARP program. If you consider the two together, you are right and still quite wrong.
'mornin'
I'll never forget watching Palin answer the first question posed to her in debate by saying that, rather than answer that question, she'd speak about something entirely different and more important. Her base loved it. Everyone else thought her ridiculous.
And so it's been, ever since. I haven't always liked the etent to which Obama tries to bring people in and form consensus. But the righties, at this point, are driving out all but the truest of believers. And they're doing so at a time when rightie government, under Bush/Cheney and Schwarenegger and others, has never had less positive results to show for itself.
"Even better, just agree with everything she says."
For every insult, "oh, thank you!" accompanied by a beatic smile.
Isn't Pat a little old to be letting Little Pat do all his thinking?
Gummo
I have a feeling that Little Pat hasn't seen any real action since the FIRST Nixon Administration.
plantsman--fourlegs put up photos of our new kitten:
http://plush-life.blogspot.com/2...tten-
alert.html
I am not Gromit.
Gummo
(stumbles zombie-like to kitchen, makes more coffee)
DWD - Red Dawn was used as a sort of MST3K for us. Laughter and burritos.
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Which is pretty much why I've decided to spend my golden years devoted to hookers and blow.
Seriously -- why not?
steve simels
right there with ya, buddy.
Sheets
Buffalo Dance.
Great weather just outside of Philly. Clear skies, 72 degrees, slight breeze and the local parade of kids on bicycles is about to begin.
I apologize; I shouldn't have said stimulus money. But the actual expenditures to fix this problem, of those certainly an awful lot went and is going still to the banksters. Yes, I'd say tha majority. How much did we pay to bail out AIG, alone??
Adam Hominem
Coffee to Adam who beat me to it. . . .
You can't do it, my friend. Why would you even say such a thing?
slartibartfast | 07.04.09 - 10:17 am | #
Actually the only mistake in the post is that Adam said stimulus. In fact, the Obama administration has rewarded the worst culprits of this debacle with trillions. The cash has been flowing so generously that Wall Street compensation for these fuckwads and criminals has not missed a beat.
plantsman--fourlegs put up photos of our new kitten:
http://plush-life.blogspot.com/2...tten- alert.html
noblejoanie
Omigawd! Teh cute!
"Kittens are proof that God loves us"
--(Benjamin Franklin, he really said it about beer, but I know better)
Shit, I think I owe Adam a coke.
We shouldn't want a "recovery." We should want to build a new system entirely.
Moe Szyslak
Bit like trying to change a tire on a moving car, though, don't you think?
Fuck em....let's see if he can get it funded with stimulus money.
57 meee-lion voted for her. Don't be so fast to put her on an ice floe.
Also, I see the rehabilitation of AT Sanford is underway - notice the "he's with his family in Florida" and "he didn't spend any state money" lines running at the useful idiot media.
"That's right, Mom. Bless yor heart."
noblejoanie:
Kitteh is adorable!
"Nah, she got caught with hand in the cookie jar."
maybe. but wouldn't she be in a better position to fight that as gov then as a private citizen?
asss
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