I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Um, the Dem rules committee is meeting...
In other words, Objection, relevance.
I'm not calling sheets, either.
But it is your blog.
Crazy talk, it's everywhere!
Johnson County: One of the richest, most backward-ass counties in the whole country.
Toyota will just buy the system and destroy it you know.
/snark
Hey, I used to live in Overland Park and the folks there are nice people!
Just a little slow, that's all.
Developments in mass transit in the midwest: expect a herky-jerk crabwalk executed in glorious ignorance of what works in other cities around the world.
In class the other day we did some back of the envelope 'ciphering'. If you take the $3 trillion cost of the wat, divide it by the number of gallons of oil imported from the Persian Gulf the last 5 years, you would have to add about $210 to each gallon of gas/fuel oil.
Makes this Kansas plan look a little less nutty.
I look forward to Krauthammer's next column where he argues that light-rail transit systems are really a Commie plot to discredit freedom-loving SUV owners.
Or something.
sadly, tubino's probably right, though I gather they've done okay in utah
a 119-mile network of light rail and streetcars in city streets,
Which BTW, was the exact design mechanism that destroyed LA's Red Line.
Boy, there's nuthin' like a Saturday Morning Rules Committee meeting! On CNN and MSNBC!
Rivitin'!!
Of course it is boring, no way for it not to be. But it may be important and I'm really amazed that it IS on tv. However, this florida dude has a droning voice.
"The word is, 'WHITEWASH'."
"Can you use it in a sentence please?"
"The Dems have allowed this lame-ass Harry Reid clone to challenge the Florida delegates in a blatant example of 'WHITEWASH'."
"Whitewash."
"D-N-C"
"Whitewash."
NonSimels reaction to Krauthammer (reposted).
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...6_Comments.html
If it's Friday, it's Chuckles day at the WAPO.
By all means, let's build nuclear. First plant at Crawford, TX. Second plant at Kennebunkport, ME.
Of course, the sole source bidder should be Halliburton with Cheney in charge and the remnants of Enron as consultants and Bush as the decider.
.........
how can you ask for further research when it's completely clear the already massive body of evidence is doing nothing to push you off your ideological plinth? surely any further research will be refuted by such deniers in similar terms, unless of course it's research from the climate change skeptic margins, in which case you're all ears. the views of a tiny minority of skeptics (and there are skeptics on every issue - look at that 911 conspiracy nonsense) are not going to change the net position of the entire scientific establishment.
the truth is, krauthammer doesn't want more research, he wants more climate change denial. for someone who talks about free market solutions, he can't see the benefit of positive growth in the energy sector, and would rather it wind down on its dwindling base of resources.
neoconservatism is over as a political body of thought - bush's reign of ignorance has seen to that - and krauthammer is one of its trademark proponents of hate speech. such a backwards way of dealing with an issue deserves to be discredited at every opportunity.
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The Green movement is most certainly one of the False Religions described in the bible. For those readers of this who are Christian, and think cutting down trees is against "nature", ask yourself "What was Jesus Christ's occupation for most of his adult life?" Yes, he was a carpenter.
The earth is here for us during this age. It doesn't really matter if it is warming or cooling now. The Bible tells us that it will be replaced by a new earth. Worship the Creator, not the creation!
Of course it is boring, no way for it not to be
I disagree. I find it fascinating. Things are only boring if you want to look at life like that.
You kids and your mass transit.
I'm not calling sheets, either.
noblejoanie | 05.31.08 - 10:29 am |
Worship the Creator, not the creation!
Noted below that this little bit of codespeak is usually used against Pagans who view divinity as immanent. Guess now it's being used against Greens, as well. There's a lot of overlap.
"But most authorities agree that trolleys bit the dust in LA and elsewhere not because of a conspiracy but because they were slow and inconvenient compared to autos, and in the long run just couldn't compete. Los Angeles is typical in this respect. It has neither the high population density nor the concentrated downtown necessary to support rail transit. The PE, which was owned by the Southern Pacific railroad, made a profit in only 8 of the 42 years it was in business under its own name. The problem was exacerbated by the fact that many PE lines in LA proper operated on city streets, and as more cars crowded those streets, service got progressively slower. (The average speed on the run to Santa Monica was only 13 MPH.) "
Link
[Looks around for Jay]
RALEIGH - Citing a landmark U.S. Supreme Court decision, Wake County prosecutors dropped charges Friday against a pair of Raleigh men charged with having sex in private.
Nelson Keith Sloan, 39, and Ryan Christopher Flynn, 25, were each charged with crimes against nature last Saturday after Sloan called police to report that he was assaulted by Flynn.
No sexual assault charges were filed, but Flynn did face a second charge of simple assault for biting Sloan on the lip.
Assistant District Attorney Adam Moyers concluded that any acts between the men were consensual and private.
"I am grateful that the DA's office has a better understanding of the Constitution than the Raleigh Police Department," Sloan said in a prepared statement Friday. "However, as long as this law remains on the books, it is a crime punishable by an arrest, a stay in jail, media attention and a fine of $450."
Sloan had to pay $450 to get released from jail.
In 2003, the U.S. Supreme Court struck down a Texas law that made homosexual acts a crime.
Sodomy laws remain on the books in North Carolina, Moyers said.
So dense it takes years for the news to get through.
Atrios, quite the bitch-slap your boy Jay got last night...
You kids and your mass transit.
Sorta like a GM executive in the late 60s: "You kids and your VWs with the flowers on them! When you grow up you'll buy Chevies just like your folks did!"
Yep.
Craaaaaaaazy.
The PE, which was owned by the Southern Pacific railroad, made a profit in only 8 of the 42 years it was in business under its own name.
Oh, well, if it couldn't make a profit, then we should just forget it. BTW, how much profit do the police force, the crossing guards, and the firemen make?
Liveblogging the DNC’s Rules & Bylaws Committee
http://firedoglake.com/
In class the other day we did some back of the envelope 'ciphering'. If you take the $3 trillion cost of the wat, divide it by the number of gallons of oil imported from the Persian Gulf the last 5 years, you would have to add about $210 to each gallon of gas/fuel oil.
Makes this Kansas plan look a little less nutty.
tomdurk
Do you mean gallons or barrels? Even if it is barrels it still triples the price of the oil.
Hey, I used to live in Overland Park and the folks there are nice people!
Just a little slow, that's all.
Sufferin' Blessed Succotash
My brother works there. He is kinda slow!
Actually, he is a college exec.
how much profit do the police force, the crossing guards, and the firemen make?
Um, so my transportation needs are the governments resposibility now?
Every pagan I know is a vegan...
Worship the Creator, not the creation!
Well, that certainly gets it ass-backwards.
I spell funny
Didn't know you were a Patsy Cline fan, NTodd...
Trolley and streetcar lines generally began losing money after about 1915, not surprisingly because of the affordable automobile and very cheap oil.
Um, so my transportation needs are the governments resposibility now?
No, you're absolutely right. And so the government should stop building roads, too. And, while we're at it, why are your personal safety needs the government's responsibility? Go hire your own for-profit policeman.
Every pagan I know is a vegan...
Elias |
I don't see much of a correlation between the two.
Every pagan I know is a vegan...
Elias |
I don't see much of a correlation between the two.
racymind
Yeah, well, he likes grasping at straws and tenuous connections.
Didn't know you were a Patsy Cline fan, NTodd...
Elias
Willie Nelson wrote it.
The ones I know, {a married couple} worship animals...
And so the government should stop building roads, too.
Um, but I pay a use tax in the form of gas taxes.
Every pagan I know is a vegan...
Elias |
I don't see much of a correlation between the two
There isn't any. Elias just doesn't know more than one Pagan. Lots of Pagans are omnivores.
Yeah, well, he likes grasping at straws and tenuous connections.
~~~~~~~~~~
Better than looking for stupid reasons to have an argument...
Pagans are going to Christian Hell.
Every pagan I know is a vegan. - Elias
Therefore vegans are...
pigboy--I wasn't really being snotty about calling sheets. Had to leave for a few.
while we're at it, why are your personal safety needs the government's responsibility? Go hire your own for-profit policeman.
And get yourself your own outhouse,too.
Sewage treatment is another way for left wing intellectuals to control our lives.
Um, but I pay a use tax in the form of gas taxes.
And you can pay a tax to support streetcars. Think of it as a use tax for clean air. Which we all use.
Nice to see you slept it off, so now you can check my post just before your last...
Better than looking for stupid reasons to have an argument...
Elias
You are quite accomplished at that, too... don't sell yourself short.
Everything's up to date in Kansas City.
Yes, they've gone about as fur as they can go.
Religious worship is something I've never been able to figure out.
Why worship anything or anyone? What kind of an entity would demand worship? An asshole, that's what kind...
Sewage treatment is another way for left wing intellectuals to control our lives.
I pay for that service directly.
Hecate, I can't find your email addy anywhere. I wanna send you a message.
Hook me up at:
my handle at gmail.com
Thanks. It will be later today. I am sure you will find it interesting.
dead threaded..
OT proud auntie post
My nephew is a lefty pitcher for the Bucknell Bisons. His mom writes:
Dave said the atmosphere (and mostly pro-Seminole 10,000 + fans) was super intense andthe whole Bucknell bench was hanging on every pitch and screaming their lungs out.
They blanked Florida State 7-0 and go the the Super Regionals.
You are quite accomplished at that, too... don't sell yourself short.
~~~~~~~
I try...
I pay a use tax in the form of gas taxes.
But what if your gas tax dollars pay for roads that you don't use?
Isn't that, well, kinda like socialism?
It can be Done!
Frankly, all this mass-transit stuff is so much chin music.
We need a Manhattan Project-scaled initiative to develop cheap, affordable jet-pack technology for the masses.
If we can fit eight great tomatoes into that little bitty can, there's no reason that we all can't have jet packs by the next decade.
...so my transportation needs are the governments resposibility now?
I think I'll save a lot of time if I just killfile this idiot now...
Hi, racy.
Hecatedemetersdatter at hot mail dot com
If we can fit eight great tomatoes into that little bitty can, there's no reason that we all can't have jet packs by the next decade.
Always wanted to have a Contadina jet pack.
sadly, tubino's probably right, though I gather they've done okay in utah
Atrios
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I want light rail for my area, especially since the powers plan to collect a few billion by selling a toll road.
Gallons. We took the # of barrels (current usable mix of 19 gallons of gas & 10 gallons of diesel per barrel per US Energy site) and multiplied it by 29. I have simplified it, but it made for an interesting 5 minutes of class.
But what if your gas tax dollars pay for roads that you don't use?
Isn't that, well, kinda like socialism?
I don't mind a little socialism. And I only use my share of the roads.
Totally OT, and I mentioned this last night, but it behooves repeating.
I finally figured out just what bugged me about the Sex and the City movie, apart from the fact that it was about three whores and their mother, that it was painfully unfunny, and that it just generally sucked.
It's like watching DYNASTY. Which is to say, it's a creepy Reagan-era consumerist fantasy dropped from the sky into a different world, i.e. the 21st century. It's bizarrely dated, yet it's being treated like it's totally hep and now.
Lots of Pagans are omnivores.
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Lots of animistic ones aren't...
Trolley and streetcar lines generally began losing money after about 1915, not surprisingly because of the affordable automobile and very cheap oil.
The times they are a-changing back.
I think I'll save a lot of time if I just killfile this idiot now...
Wait a minute, I thought the purpose of coming here was to waste time?
The problem was exacerbated by the fact that many PE lines in LA proper operated on city streets, and as more cars crowded those streets, service got progressively slower.
Interesting. The infrastructure for the automobile is heavily subsidized, leading to more people buying cars, and then we get rid of the trollies as their problems are made worse because "more cars crowded those streets."
You are quite accomplished at that, too... don't sell yourself short.
That's my boy. heh.
You know if all the cities pooled their rescources for a massive nation wide public transit buy, economy of scale could really drive implementation costs down.
Especially with encouragement from the federal government.
Jimmy Carter, what opportunities we missed by not listening to you.
"The PE, which was owned by the Southern Pacific railroad, made a profit in only 8 of the 42 years it was in business under its own name."
How much profit does each state DOT make? The anti MT folks conveniently ignore the complete subsidization (is this a word?)of the road and highway systems.
Link
cahuenga
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modern day difference:
cost of oil even with murderoudly huge subsidy and WAR for oil.
When I first started my present job I was sharing a house that was less than a mile from a Metro station. My office was in a building that I could reach from the Metro without even going outside. Mass transit made sense for me.
When I went to buy a house, the only house I could afford was about 15 miles away. By getting up very early I can drive for less than one hour total both ways. I can still take mass transit if I want, bus, Metro, second Metro, shuttle bus thenreverse the process in the afternoon. That takes well over an hour each way. Maybe one and one half hours depending on connections. Until recently, gas plus parking was not that much more than total fares. Even now, if I put very much value on my time driving still makes sense.
WE have built ourselves into a spread out suburbia. In the short and medium term the solution is going to have to be solar and wind providing electricity to electric cars. Biomass can probably provide fuel for trucks and trains. More of our electric power is going to be coming from nuclear.
beverage to Hecate
Um, so my transportation needs are the governments resposibility now?
cahuenga | 05.31.08 - 10:43 am | #
Perhaps not, but I suspect some remdial education in Civics 101 might be.
The times they are a-changing back
Don't be so sure. As I pointed out a day or two ago, Atrios's beloved SEPTA requires $635 million per year in subsidies to remain above water.
So, any Atriots involved in this political sausage making at the DNC?
Especially with encouragement from the federal government.
too bad our government doesn't even encourage the concept of federal government...
The Garden State Parkway in NJ has been collecting tolls for decades, and STILL manages to lose money.
Perhaps not, but I suspect some remdial education in Civics 101 might be.
I love you.
The times they are a-changing back.
Funny how wingers tend to think of mass transit as something that's somehow un-American. Especially since this country was one of the pioneers in urban mass transit (horsecar rails below street level, NYC 1851; first electric streetcars, Richmond 1887).
Don't be so sure. As I pointed out a day or two ago, Atrios's beloved SEPTA requires $635 million per year in subsidies to remain above water.
Every transit system needs massive influx of cash to remain above water.
How much did Pennsylvania shell out for highway repair and maintenance last year?
More of our electric power is going to be coming from nuclear.
____league
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that is if Yucca Mountain is viable...McCain wants an international nuke waste depository...lemme see, the Sudan?
Um, so my transportation needs are the governments resposibility now?
Always have been -- or do you drive off-road cross-country?
I love you.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 10:57 am | #
The feeling is mootual.
Every transit system needs massive influx of cash to remain above water.
Until we figure out a better way to charge users for their use of the "commons", air, water, etc., we need to employ the public purse to make needed systems work.
Funny how wingers tend to think of mass transit as something that's somehow un-American.
I'm about as far from a "winger" as you can get. IMHO the car will be with us for the foreseeable future. It will evolve.
McCain wants an international nuke waste depository...lemme see, the Sudan?
Dumbest idea ever. McCain thinks Siberia's a perfect spot. He really is the old man yelling at the cloud.
Always have been -- or do you drive off-road cross-country?
No, I pay about 50 cents a gallon in taxes.
I'm about as far from a "winger" as you can get. ...
cahuenga | 05.31.08 - 10:59 am | #
Dear Penthouse Forum:
I never thought that I, an average college student, would be writing to you...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
20...e_n_104345.html
Good mrning Atriots!
Does anyone see the scotty mac thing getting to hearings? That'd be so much fun! The difference between scotty and other whitehouse miscreants is that scotty wants to testify. That might be tough to stop.
Always have been -- or do you drive off-road cross-country?
We've been over that. A gastaxisausersfeesoit'
snotreallybiggovernmentblahblahblah. I've got an in-law who delivers the same spiel.
Dumbest idea ever. McCain thinks Siberia's a perfect spot. He really is the old man yelling at the cloud.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Well, whenever I'm confused, I just check my underwear. It holds the answer to all the important questions.
--John McCain--
Most of pennsylvania's state highway funding is covered by gas tax and other driver fees. But the rest of the roads in the state are not repaired by magic fairies.
Better than looking for stupid reasons to have an argument...
Elias | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 10:47 am | #
Wow. Irony is daid.
So, it just deadends at Stateline Road?
But the rest of the roads in the state are not repaired by magic fairies.
Are too.
I'm about as far from a "winger" as you can get. IMHO the car will be with us for the foreseeable future. It will evolve.
cahuenga
The fact that we are a nation of cars isn't some act of nature. It's the result of conscience decisions to destroy public transit to maintain auto/oil industry profit. The same conscious decision-making can reverse this madness.
Good morning.
We finally got the funds here to build the second light rail line in town; connecting Mpls. & St. Paul. Though it won't be completed until 2014.
We've come a long way, baby.
As Vicki reminded me, this hearing is really, really important. So I take it back about it being boring. I promise to try to focus more and follow it better, and also to keep up with the liveblogging at fdl.
Thanks Vicki.
rest of the roads in the state are not repaired by magic fairies.
And all this time I thought that gaii Socialists were responsible for road repair..
Elias, you need to double-up on the meds.
The fact that we are a nation of cars isn't some act of nature. It's the result of conscience decisions to destroy public transit to maintain auto/oil industry profit. The same conscious decision-making can reverse this madness.
Elias
Why is everybody trying to take cahuenga's car away? (Pssst! We meet behind the fountain in an hour with the tow truck! I know where the car is! Don't be late! The revolution will not be motorized!)
Not to pick nits, but the lighting in this RBC hearing is unflattering.
Most of pennsylvania's state highway funding is covered by gas tax and other driver fees. But the rest of the roads in the state are not repaired by magic fairies.
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In Ohio, they're not repaired, period.
Plus, you guys have what must be some of the highest toll fees anywhere, right?
We've come a long way, baby.
[hands Zap Virgina Slim]
Rmj
Can I keep my car if it's electric?
"3 trillion dollar wars are fine. transportation is Marxism"-repubs
Why is everybody trying to take cahuenga's car away?
Because I'm a left-wing intellectual DFH Osama-lover who hates cars!
Not to pick nits, but the lighting in this RBC hearing is unflattering
It's a plot to make [insert name of your candidate] look bad!
/Kidding!
IMHO the car will be with us for the foreseeable future. It will evolve.
I agree that the car will be with us for the foreseeable future, but as a means of moving the masses, the car will always suck for one simple reason -- improve the speed and convenience of auto travel and people spread out. Having a totally electric vehicle or one that gets 3000 miles to the gallon does not change this. People spread out until gridlock is once again achieved. The trolly achieved only 13 mph on its run -- many mornings and afternoons on the 101 Freeway, 13 mph seems like an unattainable dream. It isn't gas or whatever else that powers it that is the car's Achilles heel, it is the roadway. My father spent 30 years in highway planning with the TN DOT and every road they ever planned with their 20 year projects was jammed within 5 years of construction.
Oh shit...is the RBC hearing on c-span?
I just went to their website to see if I could stream it, but it appears to have been Atrios'd.
How much did Pennsylvania shell out for highway repair and maintenance last year?
Not enough apparently.
Pennsylvania's deteriorated urban roads cost drivers $3.1 billion
Dumbest idea ever. McCain thinks Siberia's a perfect spot. He really is the old man yelling at the cloud.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
I didn't understand why he thinks Siberia is safe. Hasn't he been reading about effects of global warming on the environment up there? Does he think, "Well, it will do for awhile?" Does he think at all? What?
So stupid.
.
Florida Senator Bill Nelson wastes no time descending into speechifyin' bullshit dramatics.
Electric smart cars will survive.
Not to pick nits, but the lighting in this RBC hearing is unflattering.
noblejoanie | 05.31.08 - 11:05 am | #
Wait till you see the Sex and the City Movie. Sara Jessica Parker looks like she was lit by Stevie Wonder....
Light rail is needed, but Funkhouser has no leadership skills, few social skills, and a host of problems, most in the form of his "co-mayor" and wife, who was responsible for the appointment of a nutcase member of the Minutemen to the prestigious Parks Board--huge controversy ensued, embarrassing to the city. Then, his co-mayor called a black staff-member "Mammy" on more than one occasion, resulting in an EEOC complaint being filed. Then, in retaliation, the staff member was demoted, then fired. Funk's a mess.
My hippy dippy town got terrible marks for its carbon footprint the other day. In part it's because we have to heat homes in cold winters. But the fixable piece is our lack of decent regional mass transit. I'm rooting for higher gas prices. It's what it will take to wake up those who moved to the far- flung subdivisions.
He thinks, "It's Russia, who cares if it leaks out?"
Never mind...streaming it now.
(note to self: stay away from Taylor Marsh's site today)
I didn't understand why he thinks Siberia is safe. Hasn't he been reading about effects of global warming on the environment up there? Does he think, "Well, it will do for awhile?" Does he think at all? What?
So stupid.
.
Sparkle Plenty
The nuclear waste will act as a protective shield to stop the methane gas from the melting permafrost tundra fields from escaping into the atmosphere.
Duh.
You are quite accomplished at that, too... don't sell yourself short.
Indeed. Like, say...something about pagans and vegans...
Phoenix Light Rail system will be in operation at the end of this year, with expansions beginning immediately to take it out farther both east and west. Oddly, the light rail follows exactly the same route as did the trolley system which was in place from shortly after statehood until the '50s. Geography - what a nut!
the car will always suck for one simple reason -- improve the speed and convenience of auto travel and people spread out.
But you just disproved your theory... If spreading out eventually leads to gridlock.
Sara Jessica Parker looks like she was lit by Stevie Wonder....
[waves at stevie]
[/ bootsy]
It's on MSNBC.
It's what it will take to wake up those who moved to the far- flung subdivisions.
Meaning you're against lawns.
Still more evidence that leftist intellectuals hate America.
Sara Jessica Parker looks like she was lit by Stevie Wonder....
I think if she played Annie now, small children would projectile vomit.
Wait till you see the Sex and the City Movie. Sara Jessica Parker looks like she was lit by Stevie Wonder....
steve hüssein™ simels
LOL!
Barbara Streisand always controls her own lighting. Now I understand why!
Well, whenever I'm confused, I just check my underwear. It holds the answer to all the important questions.
--John McCain--
trifecta
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god, where did I hear that 'at least with Clinton we know it's briefs' Matthews'?
noblejoanie ~
Your area is notably spaced out, too. I don't mean that in a drug addled way, but small town...farm community...drive drive...small town...farm community...drive drive.
Beautiful, but it's a long way to nowhere. MI is like that, too, north of Grand Rapids.
This rules meeting is fascinating. I'm actually catching a glimpse of something senatorial from Bill Nelson.
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I didn't understand why he thinks Siberia is safe. Hasn't he been reading about effects of global warming on the environment up there? Does he think, "Well, it will do for awhile?" Does he think at all? What?
Precisely. And, we know the Russians do such a good job taking care of stuff like nuclear fuel. So the whole world should just pay them a gazillion dollars to take everyone else's nuclear waste, they'll take care of it for us, and presto, Bob's your uncle! What could go wrong?
Meaning you're against lawns.
Still more evidence that leftist intellectuals hate America.
Sufferin' Blessed Succotash
Why yes I do, at least those Chemlawned!
http://www.organicgardening.com/...77-
1698,00.html
Oh wait, you knew that.
But what if your gas tax dollars pay for roads that you don't use?
Isn't that, well, kinda like socialism?
Sufferin' Blessed Succotash
Isn't that why the Creator sends us roadkill?
Mends potholes and good eatin' too.
Wait till you see the Sex and the City Movie. Sara Jessica Parker looks like she was lit by Stevie Wonder....
steve hüssein™ simels
Sara Jessica Parker looks like a foot!
Megan Foster, Mary Mooney...
I'm rooting for higher gas prices. It's what it will take to wake up those who moved to the far- flung subdivisions.
Respectfully, the people who moved out there aren't the real enemy.
and any postive side effect of higher gas prices is dwarfed by the much larger negative burden we all carry.
Sex and the City NYT had Parker previews that made her sound uber idiotic. Her new clothing line 'was populist cuz it went to size 22' or some shit. I like her hubby, tho.
Mends potholes and good eatin' too.
Another Hiaasen buff...
It's too nice a day to watch this hearing. But I'm mesmerized. (BTW, Dr Mesmer was one of the first to use hypnosis.)
I didn't understand why he thinks Siberia is safe.
For the same reason it was "safe" to test atomic bombs in Nevada and the south Pacific rather than in the Paris suburbs or Connecticut.
How much did Pennsylvania shell out for highway repair and maintenance last year?
Not enough apparently.
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Here's how stoooopid our local pols are. Last summer they put forth plans to spend millions to convert the main downtown blvd into traditional slanted parking spaces that would add, maybe, 2 dozen new spaces.
The 3 main arteries connecting the various suburbs to downtown are nearly impassable as they look like those rice paddies in Nam after B52 strikes.
We had the biggest turnout in city hall, people standing in the hallway to voice outrage. They relented and changed the plan, the streets are still shit, but people feel a bit more empowered...
Dear Kieth Olberman, I love ya man, but you missed the most important fact about Dunkin Donuts and MM Malkin -
Dunkin Donuts is owned by the e Carlyle Group.
Doesn't that change the story just a little bit pal?
Follow the money.
Respectfully, the people who moved out there aren't the real enemy.
and any postive side effect of higher gas prices is dwarfed by the much larger negative burden we all carry.
I didn't mean to dump on those who moved there, often to escape the high prices of the homes in town. But the political will has been missing to find regional solutions and high gas prices will drive us toward that. Indeed, I think many will welcome it.
What could go wrong?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
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no one could possibly predict...
Dear Kieth Olberman:
Meet the Carlyle Group
http://www.hereinreality.com/car...om/
carlyle.html
People who were born during the last Lakers-Celtics championship series, will be drinking in bars on their 21st birthday celebrating it.
It makes me feel old. I remember the line ups.
Dennis Johnson, Danny Ainge, Robert Parish, Kevin McHale, Larry Bird.
Magic Johnson, Byron Scott, James Worthy, Kurt Rambis, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
I am feeling like Simels today. Well, like he did 80 years ago.
Well, as I recently discovered, even rural dwellers can use mass transit.
Though if large numbers started to, I'm not sure how the county would handle it.
I wish I could stop my beard from growing sometimes.
Ciao for now...
...could someone please teach NTodd about animism...
Though if large numbers started to, I'm not sure how the county would handle it.
That has happened here. The Rapid is confounded.
I am feeling like Simels today. Well, like he did 80 years ago.
trifecta | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 11:15 am | #
Madonna, Prince and Michael Jackson all turn 50 this year.
I don't even want to think about how old whoever sang "Sunglasses at Night" must be....
I'm goin' to Kansas City, Kansas City, here I come
Yes, goin' to Kansas City, Kansas City, here I come
They got a crazy way a-lovin' an' a I wanna get me some
Well I might take a plane, then I'll take a train
I won't have to to walk, there are lots of trains
I'm going to, Kansas City, Kansas City, here I come
They got a crazy way a-lovin' an I wanna get me some
Oh yeah
I wish I could stop my beard from growing sometimes.
plantsman,
That's what Tom Cruise said to Katie Holmes during her pregnancy.
Nelson sounds like a Baptist preacher.
Yeah, well, he likes grasping at straws and tenuous connections.
Heh.
Bill Nelson looks like a Muppet.
BTW, if you want to see the RB meeting live, looks like Marcy at FDL has a link.
She's also supposed to be liveblogging...
NTodd thinks animism is some kinky Japanese cartoon fetish...
Sen. Bill Nelson looks like a gameshow host
Just saying...
Corey Hart.
But you just disproved your theory... If spreading out eventually leads to gridlock.
Not at all. You are only looking at it from the center. People start to spread out from new points of concentration on the edges -- like people who now have a one-hour commute from Thousand Oaks to Studio City. Around the fringes, auto travel still seems (though often only barely) reasonable.
re: nuclear waste
You take, say, half a ton of high explosive--ammonium nitrate fertilizer from the local coop will do--and five hundred pounds of nuclear waste, you can make, say, Manhattan uninhabitable for 500 years. Worth thinking about.
re: cars
There's a fantastic amount of money, time and people's lives invested in the way we live now. It'll change, for the same reason it changed before--questions of affordability, job patterns, immigration, demographics and so on. But cars aren't going away anytime soon, public transit won't substitute for them except in dense areas, even if there, anytime soon, and we'll need 'em. So they'll get smaller, more economical of fuel usage, and you won't have to fire up a 5000 lb tank every time you need a loaf of bread. But they aren't going away.
I don't even want to think about how old whoever sang "Sunglasses at Night" must be....
steve hüssein™ simels
Just checked on Wiki. It's actually Cory Hart's b-day today. He is 46.
Sen. Bill Nelson looks like a gameshow host
Just saying...
steve hüssein™ simels
Lighting. See above.
Increasing frequency on bus routes would make a lot of folks standing by the roadside happy. It will come, after the lag of governments realizing fewer are driving.
Madonna, Prince and Michael Jackson all turn 50 this year.
You left one very important person off that list and it makes me sad... 
Oh the irony of Shillary supporter Elias complaining about "whitewashing."
Just a drive-by...
the youngest kid from Hanson just became a daddy this week too Simels 
Just checked on Wiki. It's actually Cory Hart's b-day today. He is 46.
trifecta | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 11:19 am | #
Get outta town.
The very best cover of 'Kansas City' I ever heard was by Jay McShann, piano, and Al Casey, guitar, from an album called 'Best of Friends'.
Well, I gotta tell you, from the looks of the streets in Philly a couple of weeks ago, those mass transit subsidies are having the desired effect.
Good morning, friends.
$3.5 mil doesn't sound like a helluva lot of money to me...coming from Repigs.
https://donate.barackobama.com/
pa...530_EOM4_ND_X_B
Wink Martindale. He looks like Wink Martindale. And talks like Pat Robertson.
Nelson = gameshow preacher
Here ya go...
Fodder for PowerPop, no?
Debbie Gibson will be 38 this year Simels. That one has to hurt
Hey, Steverino - speaking of "SITC," did you know they just released a box set of "Square Pegs"?
The episode with Bill Murray as the substitute teacher is a fucking classic!
Beautiful, but it's a long way to nowhere. MI is like that, too, north of Grand Rapids.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
Weren't there trains that went all along the lake shore for vacationers at one time? I know Chicagoans still take the South Shore to some of the resort areas down along the tip.
It seems a no-brainer to bring those rails back again for business and vacation passengers.
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It's interesting to see how the light rail is developing thruout the Metroplex - if you start Google Maps at either 10 N. Central or 5000 N. Central you can see how far it's gotten.
Are you turning 50 this year, too, dave™© ?
You left one very important person off that list and it makes me sad...
Trademark dave!
Wink was also a soft-drink, kinda like Squirt.
I was in horrible shape at 50. Much better now, close to 59. If ever your mileage varies, it's with aging.
Gomez = 50 on July 5th
Friend --
You'll like this.
This morning someone forwarded me an email sent by the arm of the Republican Party that raises money for their Senate candidates.
The subject of the message was "Democrats Win Landslide Victory," and the writer, Republican former Senator Bill Frist, admits: "I have a real fear of waking up to this headline after the elections this fall."
He goes on to explain fears among Washington power brokers about Barack Obama's grassroots support and voter registration efforts.
There is no reason to own a car in NYC.
Maybe Staten Island and the furthest areas of Queens but not anyplace else.
The above is from an e-mail I got this morning.
Repukes fear SO many things, don't they?
Debbie Gibson will be 38 this year Simels. That one has to hurt
trifecta
Shocks me that she is only 3 years younger than me.
Phoenix has a great grid for placing light-rail onto.
Are you turning 50 this year?
I taught Prince everything he knows!
Do I get a royalty check? NO!
And then Simels puts me out to pasture...
I get no regard, I tells ya - no regard!
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 11:22 am |
YAY!
Wink Martindale has a painting of a pile of dust propped up in his attic
Hmmm...just watched a mash-up of Justin Timberlake and Corey Hart.
Wouldn't advise making the same mistake I did.
Most of pennsylvania's state highway funding is covered by gas tax and other driver fees. But the rest of the roads in the state are not repaired by magic fairies.
Atrios
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Yet fast Eddie Rendell is poised to sell a PA toll road to some sovereign nation (Aussies?).
Hey, Steverino - speaking of "SITC," did you know they just released a box set of "Square Pegs"?
(jaw drops)
HBK: true. But when I lived in NYC, I owned a Honda Civic, in which I commuted from Manhattan to the Bronx daily. Parked on the street. Even took it to places to eat, see movies and so on. And on the weekends, we'd head out to places like the berkshires or Buck's County to breathe.
No point to denying that cars are nice things.
The RBC meeting is fascinating. Nelson is certainly going to bat for the folks in his state.
Speaking of Prince:
After word spread that Prince covered Radiohead's "Creep" at Coachella, the tens of thousands who couldn't be there ran to YouTube for a peek. Everyone was quickly denied — even Radiohead.
All videos of Prince's unique rendition of Radiohead's early hit were quickly taken down, leaving only a message that his label, NPG Records, had removed the clips, claiming a copyright violation. But the posted videos were shot by fans and, obviously, the song isn't Prince's.
In a recent interview, Thom Yorke said he heard about Prince's performance from a text message and thought it was "hilarious." Yorke laughed when his bandmate, guitarist Ed O'Brien, said the blocking had prevented him from seeing Prince's version of their song.
"Really? He's blocked it?" asked Yorke, who figured it was their song to block or not. "Surely we should block it. Hang on a moment."
Yorke added: "Well, tell him to unblock it. It's our ... song."
Oh the irony of Shillary supporter Elias complaining about "whitewashing."
Just a drive-by...
int argc
IS he a Clinton supporter?
Or does he just enjoy whining about everything and anything on these threads?
Last night he was insufferable.
Hey, Steverino - speaking of "SITC," did you know they just released a box set of "Square Pegs"?
The episode with Bill Murray as the substitute teacher is a fucking classic!
dave™© | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 11:21 am | #
All of a sudden I'm on a lot of DVD mailing lists for free stuff. What company puts it out?
The Phoenix grid system was created to support mass transportation of whichever day was concerned. Those Mormon rules about being able to turn a waggon around on the street were one part of it - and the fact that straight roads make for cheaper infrastructure support is another. I mean, when the first street in the 'city' is named Baseline, you have to get the idea that there was a little bit of planning involved.
Molly wanted to marry Johnny Slash. Admit it
I taught Prince everything he knows!
Do I get a royalty check? NO!
And then Simels puts me out to pasture...
I get no regard, I tells ya - no regard!
dave™©
I always wondered where Prince got his fashion sense. Now we all know. Did you tell him to do that symbol thing, too? Brilliant!
Wink Martindale. He looks like Wink Martindale.
"You see sir, when I look at the Ace, it reminds me that there is but one God, and the deuce reminds me that the Bible is divided into two parts, the Old and the New Testament. When I see the trey, I think of the Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost. And when I see the four..."
Madonna, Prince and Michael Jackson all turn 50 this year.
Prince has aged pretty well (not counting the hip replacement).
The other two, not so much.
No point to denying that cars are nice things.
ProfWombat
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My auto was abused terribly every time I'd visit my sister, Fran. She lives at 2nd and Bowery (across from CBGB's) and the poor car was smashed, smacked, beaten and otherwise violated, all because I didn't pony up for the garage.
Florida's argument is more durable and compelling than what I believe Michigan's argument will be.
Shocks me that she is only 3 years younger than me.
Willendorf Venus | 05.31.08 - 11:23 am
I hate you.
I always wondered where Prince got his fashion sense.
I remember he came to me one day and said "How's this look?" I said, "Prince, parachute pants are never gonna fly!"
I always wondered where Prince got his fashion sense. Now we all know. Did you tell him to do that symbol thing, too? Brilliant!
Willendorf Venus
dave told him NOT to wear the high heels.
But, did he listen? Noooooooo!
Fashion Sense? I remember a very young Prince in a Tiger-Stripe Speedo "only" in a shower in Andy Warhol's Interview eons ago.
I remember loving Square Pegs. I was precisely the demographic they aimed for: geeky high school girl. I don't remember much about it, though.
But the political will has been missing to find regional solutions and high gas prices will drive us toward that.
Again respectfully, I think that's an oversimplification. Higher gas prices will have many side effects, and exponentially will provide the corporate forces far more benefit and power than they will provide us on the opposite side.
Political will is only part of what is needed.
Everybody, including the people who feel they are already going the responsible thing, will be facing massive changes in their lifestyles. I think it's dangerous, politically, to assume the "well I'm doing the right thing and those other people need to wise up."
Just my 2 cents
Molly wanted to marry Johnny Slash. Admit it
In a heartbeat. But he didn't play for my team, alas, and died of AIDS some years ago.
Or does he just enjoy whining about everything and anything on these threads?
That, methinks, is his gig.
Yes ProfWombat but now we have ZipCar.
And really it's much quicker to get around Manhattan on the subway.
Even from Brooklyn it's quicker. Even on the Q train.
Carol Brady is 74.
Gene Simmons is 58.
Gary Coleman is 40.
Prince is quite the short man...hence, the heels.
My Dad had lunch with him one day...
And when I see the four..."
Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.
What would be the 5?
Madonna, Prince and Michael Jackson all turn 50 this year.
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as did I.
they are all in better shape than me!
adrian mitchell stoking the I-won't-vote-if HRC-aint-on-ticket bullshit.
I dont believe it. I she is about as real as her blond hair.
What would be the 5?
Man is 5.
The devil is 6.
Gawd is 7.
All of a sudden I'm on a lot of DVD mailing lists for free stuff. What company puts it out?
Sony.
I loved this show when it came out - I had a BIG crush on Sara Jessica! - but I have to be honest, I saw a "marathon" on one of the cable networks a few years back and it was kinda rough sledding. Of course, you can't watch a lot of shows (other than "Twilight Zone" or "Star Trek") back to back like that.
But the Murray episode is fucking great! And of course, Anne Beatts was in charge of the whole thing...
It all becomes clear now. Florida held its early primary owing to a GOP dirty trick.
Andrea Mitchell, you mean? HRC has clearly been her GRRRRL for quite some time.
What would be the 5?
Man is 5.
The devil is 6.
Gawd is 7.
Zap Rowsdower
Why was 5 afraid of 6? Because 7 8 9!
I hear Prince does a helluva show in Vegas.
I like the fact that he usually doesn't take the stage 'til after midnight. Of course at his age, it's not like he's sleeping much anyway...
It's already 80 out now. Perhaps I should enjoy the outdoors.
Charlie Crist fucked with the Democratic primary in Florida.
Indifference sheets!
If you're 555, then I'm 666.
88.6 here. I'm not goin' out there.
I like the fact that he usually doesn't take the stage 'til after midnight. Of course at his age, it's not like he's sleeping much anyway...
He's been trying to one-up Sly Stone that way for years.
Show will start at nine, but he won't come on because he's back stage praying for everyone's soul, or some shit.
That, methinks, is his gig.
It's a job I guess, and beats flipping burgers, wiping down the counters, and getting french fry grease in your hair.
If I can't get there fast, I don't want to get there at all!
Where's my flying car, dammit! And transporters! I want transporters NOW!
For the most part, I'm starting to think that the key to reaching the tipping point in public transportation will be devising a better, more intelligent, and more distributed network of smaller vehicles. Focusing immediately on massive infrastructure projects makes the activation energy too high and forces the up-front long-term commitment of resources in a way that may end up being suboptimal.
sheets
The Blue Line in Los Angeles killed over 60 people in its first 15 years. It costs roughly the same per mile to make elevated rail lines as a freeway-plus freeways take cars off surface streets, leaving room for other traffic.
Freeways are also the safest roads and transport cars at about the speed they were designed to get the best gas mileage.
I appreciate all the love for mass transit, but a healthy system has a healthy mix.
Why is this nutty? Our mass transit system is abysmal. Kunstler makes more and more sense each day
according to Paul Krugman, the Germans have a rate of car ownership comparable to ours but they just drive them much much less.
There is no need to take away people's cars. But there is no need for people to have 3 or 4 per family and to use them to buy a quart of milk or to commute, 1 person per car, on a daily basis.
We don't have to think in all-or-nothing terms all the time.
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