I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Super Trolly!
double??
trifecta???
Homer!
Doh!
Hey.
stop the trifect!
but do check out UAW gives up bennies, Wall Street keeps them
http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com/
Remember -- they are writing for the likes of Maverick
A Streetcar (not one of San Francisco's cable cars, which pull cars up steep hills by grabbing underground cables) Named Desire
Danes Kick Serious Ass!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/afric...ica/
7768204.stm
How an IRA gunrunner reinvented herself as a Tory councillor
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/
tol...icle5295782.ece
Eeeeek! I feel my 29 year old marrige crumbling under this brazen assault.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/172399
O! Streetcar!
Speaking of St. Louis mass transit...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h...h?
v=hka8jKueLaQ
and run on tracks
GM dug up all the tracks and sold them to Germany so's they could build bombs to drop on Pearl Harbor.
I'm a longtime advocate of funiculars. 
GM dug up all the tracks and sold them to Germany so's they could build bombs to drop on Pearl Harbor.
Lime Rickey
Tell me more, Mister Professor Man!
what about nukklear powered street cars?
People tried the "separate but equal" thing with brown people. It didn't work.
Tell me more, Mister Professor Man!
jac
I would add that that was before Obama was born.
what about nukklear powered street cars?
leibniz leibkins
Doc Brown's working on that, but the Libyans want more money.
that was before Obama was born.
In Indonesia, right?
Or was it Kenya?
People tried the "separate but equal" thing with brown people. It didn't work.
Check out most city school systems.
I forgot how funny Ferris Bueller is. The "kids today" probably look at it as a relic of the past.
I would add that that was before Obama was born.
In Hawaii.
GM killed the streetcar as well as the electric car.
I would add that that was before Obama was born.
Lime Rickey | 12.06.08 - 9:21 am | #
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.. in a small village in Ghana, to Austro-Hungarian/Chinese parents.
Remember -- they are writing for the likes of Maverick
P O'Neill |
And Grampa Simpson.
Wait until they tell us about that newfangled Autobus. It doesn't need tracks or a wire!
Hawaii is pretty exotic.
Nobody born there is qualified to be President.
Or, we could walk.
Bill Ayers speaks -- accuses McCain of Orwellian hate tactics
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/0...on/
06ayers.html
GM killed the streetcar as well as the electric car.
Lime Rickey
Video killed the radio star.
And MTV killed the video.
There remain electric buses powered with overhead cables in the Boston area.
dead threaded:
Congressional Democrats fell victim, and allowed themselves to fall victim, to a Republican willingness to use holds and filibusters unique in American history, combined with Bush's vision of the unitary executive and his appalling policies. They brought knives to a gunfight, and, having their butts handed them again and again, kept right on doing it.
They would have been in a far superior political position had they fought, publicly and vigorously, against this Republican obstructionism and malfeasance. As it is, they are seen as partly, if not wholly, to blame, in the bemusing context of Republican calls to preserve checks and balances and striving for bipartisanship.
Further, they would have reestablished a Congressional check against an executive that, for all time, has been demonstrated to be capable of extraordinary incompetence and outright evil. One of my worries is that they so obviously wait for Obama, a (yes) executive, to lead them out of the wilderness. Policies will improve, but the fell changes consequent to Bush assertions of presidential power are being perpetuated rather than challenged. And the ideal time to challenge them is during the last days of the failed, discredited lame duck Bush presidency, rather than during the start-up of the most promising Democrat we've seen in a long time.
PLEASE try not to make that building nervous! We know how often a building will collapse from sheer nervousness into its own "Footprint". Do not upset the Building, please.
Snowing and cold this morning. Perfect weather to go to the Pigrim Church cookie walk. It is an annual fundraiser for their pre-school. Parents bake cookies and they are sold to fund the school. They fill the entire church basment with cookies. At $15 per box, you simply can't go wrong.
I love Christmas cookies.
Steam engines killed the water wheel.
that was before Obama was born.
In Indonesia, right?
Or was it Kenya?
Sufferin' Succotash
Borat Hussein Osama was not born.
He was assembled from body parts raided from the graves of Adolf Hitler, Tojo, Pol Pot, Jack the Ripper, Attila the Hun, and Joan Crawford.
There were electric trolley buses in SF for many years, there may still be.
And Chaka Zulu!
Don't forget Chaka Zulu!
That Ayers op-ed is very, very good.
" Instead, streetcars use overhead electric wires and run on tracks that aren't buried as deeply as those needed for light-rail lines."
wow. so that's how that newfangled thing works. amazing.
Hawaii is pretty exotic.
Nobody born there is qualified to be President.
Farking haole.
I was looking at a map of the old trolley system here a while back. It went places where no one much goes anymore: along the waterfront, out to the empty fields where the port workers' houses were bulldozed in the name of urban renewal.
it's probably a silly concern, but i'm not a fan of overhead electric wires. i don't like how they look, and i've seen too many disaster movies in which falling buildings and giant lizards are always breaking them apart. also, won't somebody think of the birds? i would hate to be in a city with dead birds littering all the new streetcars.
If Nervous No. 7 posts again, I'm going to be obliged to set off the planted charges and bring this whole thread down.
Farking haole.
Lo-lo.
"Hawaii is pretty exotic.
Nobody born there is qualified to be President."
History has proven that also is the case for Minnesota. Hookworm and inbreeding are prerequisites for holding the highest office in the land.
OH STREETCAR!
i don't like the looks, but dead birds?
There remain electric buses powered with overhead cables in the Boston area.
In the larger Russian cities there are three modes of city transport in addition to the Metro: the Avtobus (bus), the Trolleibus (bus with overhead cable), and the Tramvai (streetcar on tracks). They all seem to be packed to the gills most of the time.
Most Hawaiian men are into pig roasts and pussy. Obama may be an exception.
i don't like the looks, but dead birds?
jdw
Dozens of birds perching on trolley wires spontaneously combust every year.
It's just not widely reported.
ChiDy -- try living in a hurricane zone. We can't put them underground, because that'd be expensive. Much cheaper to put the whole fucking grid back together again every two or three years. And who needs electricity in Florida in August, really?
"Hookworm and inbreeding are prerequisites for holding the highest office in the land."
Referring, of course, to previous holders of the highest office. A strange southern grip on the executive branch since Washington.
SF has overhead wires for transit, but I think most birds are killed by cats.
The lines are too far apart to kill birds.
"It's just not widely reported."
won't somebody think of the birds? i would hate to be in a city with dead birds littering all the new streetcars.
chicago dyke, copyist | Homepage | 12.06.08 - 9:28 am | #
We could dine alfresco...anyone up for some roast squab?
Professor Wombat must be lonely in the wilderness.
People tried the "separate but equal" thing with brown people. It didn't work.
Check out most city school systems.
leibniz leibkins
to be fair, many rural school systems that are lily white in composition are also getting the shaft. it's not so much about race anymore, but if you can afford 6br mcmansions in the remaining areas that have decent public education.
Those fancy fast SUPERTRAINS use electric wires, light-rail too.
As it is, they are seen as partly, if not wholly, to blame, in the bemusing context of Republican calls to preserve checks and balances and striving for bipartisanship.
Reminds me of the old Jimmy Hatlo/Bob Dunn/Al Scaduto comic strip "They'll Do It Every Time".
The overhead wires restrain the buses/trolleys to where they are run, for better or worse. They allow greater safety to pedestrians, cars and others on the ground than third rails and the like, which require restrictive building/fending/like that.
They aren't all that beautiful. An alternative would be, y'know, buses, ideally run on electricity/hybrid/like that. But putting the energy in wires means no batteries, less weight, cheaper rol,ling stock, and removal of the pollution, if any, consequent to its generation to a location where it's easier to deal with.
"to be fair, many rural school systems that are lily white in composition are also getting the shaft."
the united states doesn't give a fuck about education. Never has.
Not sure it ever will.
Mag-lev and micro-fusion!
Me....I prefer the electrified third rail.
That lime ricky will get his pubes any day now.
"the united states doesn't give a fuck about education. Never has.
"
Though esteeming education is a rhetorical flourish that rolls frequently off the lips of each and every politician.
Current Mag-Leg tech is energy intensive and unsafe if power fails.
Is Obama stealth?
Melanie Phillips, London Spectator
It's that black skin. You can't see him in the dark unless he flashes that grin.
Unc B: every time the topic comes up, I'm reminded of Jonathan Kozol's acid observation that the school system might not be a failure if its real goals aren't the liberal education of engaged citizens capable of independent, critical thinking, but, rather, the training and indoctrination of people who go to work and don't question the basic assumptions of the society.
the united states doesn't give a fuck about education. Never has.
My thanks to all of the teachers who have bucked that current to give me a wonderful education anyway.
Heh. "Mag-Lev."
They aren't all that beautiful. An alternative would be, y'know, buses, ideally run on electricity/hybrid/like that. But putting the energy in wires means no batteries, less weight, cheaper rol,ling stock, and removal of the pollution, if any, consequent to its generation to a location where it's easier to deal with.
ProfWomba
Also, the trolleys can fit more people than buses can, because they don't need to dedicate space to big engines. In Toronto, they calculated it out... I forget the exact figures, but it was huge in terms of labour savings (fewer drivers) and congestion reduction, just from switching from buses to trolleys.
Troopergate is not over
http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/s...ory/
613501.html
Restless mag leg!
Current Mag-Leg tech is energy intensive and unsafe if power fails.
Thus the need for the micro-fusion!
the united states doesn't give a fuck about education. Never has.
Not sure it ever will.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Yeacher |
Not while a depressingly significant percentage of the population doesn't get the fundamental principle behind publicly funded universal education. I don't have kids! Or my kids are all grown now! Why should I have to pay stinking taxes for schools!
I have childhood memeories of electric lines in Chicago in the early 60's. Always scared me. Trollies can be dangerous.
http://www.prairieghosts.com/
gre...een_hornet.html
"rather, the training and indoctrination of people who go to work and don't question the basic assumptions of the society."
Had a rough conversation with a student yesterday. He's a freshman and he had no idea what he wanted to do with his life - what he like. He barely knew what he was good at.
they don't even know how to get assimilated by the borg, ya know?
, but, rather, the training and indoctrination of people who go to work and don't question the basic assumptions of the society.
ProfWombat | 12.06.08 - 9:35 am | #
or who are too demoralized to rebel.
Moe: that's what I was thinking. Seems to me we're starting, at long last, to think about distribution issues as well as generation capacity...
Went for my walk/run this morning when it was 16 degrees and now I just can't get warm!
Is this the point where someone must point out that North Haverbrook was well served by a -- what's that word?
Teddy Kennedy doesn't like the idea of yachting around wind turbines and opposed Cape Wind as a result. I disagree.
"or who are too demoralized to rebel."
My students no longer see education as a route that leads anywhere,
"Like, Uncle Blodge, if ya just text me with that shit I'll get on it."
/way too many kids I've talked with
i dont understnad why paulson isnt being impeached. i must have different thoughts about what good governmetn is.
the united states doesn't give a fuck about education. Never has.
Wasn't there a big post-Sputnik effort to increase science education?
, but, rather, the training and indoctrination of people who go to work and don't question the basic assumptions of the society.
ProfWombat | 12.06.08 - 9:35 am | #
or who are too demoralized to rebel.
rootless-e, mysterious |
A whole society like leading congressional Dems? [shudders]
I've been reading The Tipping Point. I'm guessing that there are less that 5% of "high status" people in every neighborhood...
don't know a thing about these cable cars, so went to wiki. fascinating.
"San Francisco cable cars are equipped with multiple braking systems. The large pedal next to the grip (and a crank on the back platform of single-ended cars) operates wheel brakes; the large lever to the right of the grip operates track brakes, which apply pine blocks directly to the rails. It is the track brakes that are the source of the "cooking wood" odor that can be readily smelled when a car is descending a steep hill. Finally, in case of a runaway car or other impending disaster, the red lever to the left of the grip inserts a steel wedge (the "slot blade") into the slot rail, stopping the car almost instantly; slot blades have been known to weld themselves into the slot, leaving both car and line out of commission until it can be cut free."
Another problem with those overhead lines is that the poles keep coming off and everyone on the bus has to wait for the driver to reattach them (I'm looking at you, 24 Divisadero!)
"Wasn't there a big post-Sputnik effort to increase science education?"
yeah, there was. it was going to turn the boomers into scientists, you see.
It's tough being Maverick
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/sl...e0c545698686ea/
Morning all.
Been away since early yesterday...anything irksome going on I should know about?
Hey -- there always is.
"Wasn't there a big post-Sputnik effort to increase science education?"
yeah, there was. it was going to turn the boomers into scientists, you see.
Uncle Blodge
That must be where LSD came from.
"Teddy Kennedy doesn't like the idea of yachting around wind turbines and opposed Cape Wind as a result. I disagree."
wasn't there some hubub about wind turbines killing birds or somesuch?
Editorial Today from Worchester, MA paper:
Saturday, December 06, 2008
...Cape Wind will not be a panacea for the region’s energy needs, but it could provide up to 170 megawatts of power annually, or 75 percent of the electricity needs of Cape Cod and the Islands. Whether it proves to be an economic success for its developers remains to be seen, but our nation — and New England, in particular — is in desperate need of innovative, low-carbon, environmentally friendly means of generating power for this and coming generations.
It’s time to let Cape Wind proceed.
In the averted nightmare of a Preznit Maverick, this is what we would be looking at
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/sl...1429023123.jpg/
local school districts are a big problem. and eacism/classism.
On an upbeat note, in addition to the opening of the Light Rail, there's a wonderful new exhibit opening at the Desert Botanical Garden with a bunch of Chihuly pieces. And since they do a luminaria deal every Christmas, it should be striking amid the cacti at night...
Newer-generation wind-turbines rotate more slowly and kill fewer birds.
That must be where LSD came from.
jac | 12.06.08 - 9:43 am | #
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better living through chemistry.
local school districts are a big problem. and eacism/classism.
euphronius
I hate Illinois eacists.
Is this the point where someone must point out that North Haverbrook was well served by a -- what's that word?
monorail... monorail.... MONORAIL!!!!
mono = one
rail = rail
US President-elect Barack Obama has promised to invest in infrastructure on a scale not seen since the 1950s, when the US highway system was established.
Our guy is sayin' the right things today.
Coal-fired plants, and the mining and transport of the coal that feeds them, are far worse for the environment and wildlife than are wind turbines. No comparison at all.
It's tough being Maverick
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/sl...e0c545698686ea/
Can we quickly close the borders?????
it's remarkable the difference between being a public school district where the number one goal is to provide employment for various untalented bozos and one that is run by people who want the kids to be enormous successes.
"Teddy Kennedy doesn't like the idea of yachting around wind turbines and opposed Cape Wind as a result. I disagree."
Too much tacking, or whatever they call it.
obama doens not 100% all of my policy ideas and thus i shun him since he must be a republican.
What's old is new. Streetcars are the new Light Rail!
Clang clang clang went the trolley!
the most remarkable property of the congressional democrats is their absolute inability to take initiative. They wait for atrocious proposals to be presented to them and then try to tinker at the margins.
my wife works in a bozo district.
Too much tacking, or whatever they call it.
I think that *they* call it "much too tacky."
And streetcar-rage is virtually unheard-of.
"Our guy is sayin' the right things today.
DFH in Dubrovnik"
agreed. how are things in dubrovnik today?
They would have been in a far superior political position had they fought, publicly and vigorously, against this Republican obstructionism and malfeasance. As it is, they are seen as partly, if not wholly, to blame, in the bemusing context of Republican calls to preserve checks and balances and striving for bipartisanship.
ProfWombat
I think that's the wrong perspective.
They supported Bush in all in his terrible moves because they wanted to.
They just spun out some flimsy cover for their actions.
Nancy and Harry reflect the views of the Democratic members of Congress or they would not have been promoted to their current positions and retained.
If they would just put public school on trolleys -- or better yet a SUPERTRAIN -- wouldn't that solve both problems?
There were electric trolley buses in SF for many years, there may still be.
There were still there as of April '08, I rode on a couple.
and no more remarks for now, my restless mag leg is acting up.
i just watched dr shviago last night. the last scene is on a trolley.
Fredo has a red laser dot on his forehead and Blackwater has indictments.
O, happy day.
'morning, atriotganders!
I had a teacher who was a real bozo. However, it was clown college, so this was very presigious.
Hey jdw, it's sunny and 60 freedom degrees today, didn't even bother to fire up the woodstove....
From the Anchorage Daily News:
As far as Gov. Sarah Palin is concerned, Troopergate is behind her and she won't release to the public testimony she gave in an investigation into whether she violated ethics laws in firing her public safety commissioner, Walt Monegan.
But the day she testified, Palin's attorney said she wanted to make her testimony public.
"Coal-fired plants, and the mining and transport of the coal that feeds them, are far worse for the environment and wildlife than are wind turbines."
you would think, but i found it typical there would be so much *concern* about them.
Funding schools via local property taxes seems to me destructive on several levels. It doesn't allow even the possibility of equal opportunity. It places fixed-income voters in opposition to school funding. It's based on assets that, we now can all agree, are not inevitably going to rise enough in value to cover inflation.
I got tired of explaining to tourists that a PCC street car was not a 'cable' car.
Off to the cookie walk.
I had a teacher who was a real bozo. However, it was clown college, so this was very presigious.
Culture of TrÜth
Also reading the Tales of Beedle the Bard. A melancholy read, what with the commentary by Albus....
I got tired of explaining to tourists that a PCC street car was not a 'cable' car.
Scoopernicus
Why you gotta kill a man's dream?
The snowy dacha in (phonetic spelling ahead) Varikyno scene always cot to me.
i just watched dr shviago last night. the last scene is on a trolley.
euphronius Jenkins |
Not accidentally. The book begins with Zhivago's father (whom he doesn't know) jumping off a moving train after basically being told by Komarovsky, who is his lawyer, that he's lost his entire fortune and may be in legal trouble to boot. So it ends with Zhivago dying on the trolley.
A long tradition in Russian literature of death and trains.
"Hey jdw, it's sunny and 60 freedom degrees today, didn't even bother to fire up the woodstove...."
(waves fist, shivering): curses, dubrovnikians!
ON the other hand, I like being pedantic.
also local school boards are some of the worst orgainzattions in existence. they are fucking easits.
I don't know about you guys, but I've about had it.
I'm seriously considering squatter's rights on a cave. Puck can be my work dog, and he can pull me around on that old toboggan I have in the garage.
Gimlet: I agree with you, actually, but that isn't my point, which has more to do with the separation of powers than with weak-kneed Democratic caving in on policy points.
The biggest threat to birds?
Development of wetlands. Start your concern there.
The second biggest threat to birds?
Cats.
Windmills are like 1,000th on the list, after flying into glass windows (huge issue for skyscrapers), use of pesticides, coal-fired plants (as Prof notes), etc., etc, etc, and etc.
well he dies in a public square - but i guess the heart attack started on the trolley.
and i wish that scene with komorovsky had been in the movie.
Get on your Pontiac and ride!
Moe,
If you don't mind my asking, were you the youngest in spirit last night?
Hungover?
Oh dear, dr. mrs. sdf just announced that my blogging time is almost up for this morning and that it is time for me to do something "useful," whatever that might mean!
Meanwhile the Toddler has just erased all of our answering machine messages.
They'll get my cat when they pry it from my cold dead hands.
And now, Russia has hospitals on trains that travel thru the Siberian countryside as towns empty out.
Why you gotta kill a man's dream?
jac
Was actually woman, and a librarian to boot. She should have known better, even if she was from Idaho.
I fondly remember the trolley cars that ran down Mount Auburn street from Watertown into Cambridge. They went to trackless trolleys in the early sixties. Don't know whether they're still running or not.
Hey meigisi! It's 20 degrees here and snow is flying.
Yippee!
It's also cookie baking day for me.
Development of wetlands. Start your concern there.
I'm all for developing wetlands. The poor birds need more wetlands, so creating more of them is a... good...
Oh? That's not what you meant?
Never mind...
She should have known better, even if she was from Idaho.
Scoopernicus
Idaho is well-known for its modern trolley networks.
and i wish that scene with komorovsky had been in the movie.
euphronius Jenkins
It was in the mini-series that was on Masterpiece Theater a few years ago.
I continue to love Gordon Lightfoot's song 'Early Morning Rain' 40 years after hearing it:
Well, this old airport's got me down
It ain't no earthly good to me
'Caues I'm stuck here on the ground
Cold and drunk as I can be
You can't hop a jet plane
Like you can a freight train
So I'd best be on my way
In the early morning rain
So it ends with Zhivago dying on the trolley.
Would a spoiler alert have killed you?
i had a dream about streetcars in unexpected places.
Streetcar = Trolley.
They're cool, for what they do. Typically they don't hold as many people as light rail, travel more slowly, and run in the street, and have to deal with streetlights and other traffic. Pre-ticketing generally isn't done, and that really slows up the boarding process. Their labor costs are also higher because you have to have a driver or conductor in every car set.
A benefit of trolleys is that they can generally contend far better with the tight curves of older cities, as well as more irregular terrain, much better than light rail can.
ms fahrenheit-- some of my older colleagues and I hung out at the end of the bar and outdrank the kiddies. But I caught an early bus home (11ish) and was in bed by midnight.
As for hangovers, I either don't get them, or I have had a constant one running, from about 1984 or so.
well he dies in a public square - but i guess the heart attack started on the trolley.
and i wish that scene with komorovsky had been in the movie.
euphronius Jenkins |
In fact there is an even more gruesome death involving trains at the end of the novel in an epilogue-like telling of the story of what happens with Zhivago's orphaned daughter.
They went to trackless trolleys in the early sixties. Don't know whether they're still running or not.
Cambridge still has a couple of trackless trolley lines running.
its not a spoiler lol
Morning, Moonbats! Cold and grey here in the nation's capital.
Beautiful 48 here this morning. Off to actually do some birding this morning. Putnam County this afternoon, the electric light Christmas parade tonight and a party afterward!
The David Lean film has great sweeping scenes like Geraldine Chaplin walking pregnant thru a field of flowers and a very hawt Julie Christie.
or I have had a constant one running, from about 1984 or so.
This might help clear things up for me some.
I fondly remember the trolley cars that ran down Mount Auburn street from Watertown into Cambridge. They went to trackless trolleys in the early sixties. Don't know whether they're still running or not.
They aren't trolleys anymore but rather electric buses on a line that strings along above. I lived in Oak Sq. in Brighton for 10 years - they finally took up those trolley tracks (hadn't been used in 60 years). Other that the trains that get moved around Cleveland Circle by the T - I don't think there is and actual street trolley anymore
Hey megisi! It's 20 degrees here and snow is flying.
Yippee!
We're beginning to look like, oh, I don't know ... Michigan! Do you have the Christmas music going?
it's remarkable the difference between being a public school district where the number one goal is to provide employment for various untalented bozos and one that is run by people who want the kids to be enormous successes.
And the tough part of this is having the discussion in an honest way. I don't know how we get past the knee jerk "all teachers are brilliant/all actions by all unions are absolute good" v. "all teachers are overpaid and lazy/all unions are PURE EVIL"
non-discussion and figure out how give teachers and schools the freedom to figure out how to - yanno - teach the kids.
BTW, that pension article you linked to earlier was fascinating.
I'm glad Obama promised to roll out the biggest public works program since the 50's today. Infrastructure, baby.
i could not belive how good the lean version was. really good. they dont make movies like that anymore. the quality of the camera work was amazing.
still, trolleys can hold more people then a bus can. Also automatic signals can give streetrunning trolleys priority.
Would a spoiler alert have killed you?
megisi |
Sorry -- but, you know, the movie's been out for what like 43 years and all, it's not exactly new ...
In fact there is an even more gruesome death involving trains at the end of the novel in an epilogue-like telling of the story of what happens with Zhivago's orphaned daughter.
sdf (Stu)
The other day I walked into the room to my wife (a painter) sobbing out loud as she was watching the streetcar scene in Frida...
i think rootless was refering to adminstration not teachers.
Street cars sharing the road with autos in LA consistently impeded traffic. That is why they were ripped out.
President Obama says he's going to put people to work fixing infrastructure, turning buildings more energy efficient, and fixing up schools to a degree never before seen in America. I like this guy.
i could not belive how good the lean version was. really good. they dont make movies like that anymore. the quality of the camera work was amazing.
euphronius Jenkins |
One of the best movie versions of a book, this said by a historian of Russia. Only complaint is that in the condensing they mess up the history of the revolution a bit, but who cares about that?
I don't think there is and actual street trolley anymore
'E' Line on Huntington Ave. After Brigham Circle, it runs street running. I used to rent an apartment there during grad school.
julie christie never did anything for me. too...prissy or something.
There would be serious potential privacy issues, but it isn't hard to imagine a personal transducer similar to the toll road EZ Passes. You set up an account, the thing gets read when you get on a trolley/bus/subway/commuter railroad and you get debited; you pay once a month or via a stored credit card.
It would speed things up, encourage ridership and be cheaper to administer.
the streetcar scene in Frida...
All of that gold everywhere . . . .
There are still the B and C lines - but they don't run right in the street w/the cars. They still have to contend w/ the street lights which makes a 15 minute trip into an hour.
Call me crazy, but I always liked Geraldine Chaplin. Had a sad, delicate beauty to her.
Been away since early yesterday...anything irksome going on I should know about?
steve simels | Homepage | 12.06.08 - 9:43 am | #
Evening, all.
Been away all day -- has the irksome been amongst us?
steve simels | Homepage | 12.05.08 -
11:20 pm | #
That's okay steve, we know what it's like to get old. Short term memory gets to be a bitch.
They aren't trolleys anymore but rather electric buses
electric buses=trackless trolleys. That's what we called them when they replaced the trolleys that ran on tracks. I am old.
The cinematography in the Lean version was brilliant, and the theatrical version had an intermission as I recall and I saw it in a ginormous
Cinerama theatre on a huge screen. It was epic.
or the streetcars could be, you know, free.
Profwombat
They have those for metro, I think.
I fondly remember the trolley cars that ran down Mount Auburn street from Watertown into Cambridge. They went to trackless trolleys in the early sixties. Don't know whether they're still running or not.
They aren't trolleys anymore but rather electric buses on a line that strings along above. I lived in Oak Sq. in Brighton for 10 years - they finally took up those trolley tracks (hadn't been used in 60 years). Other that the trains that get moved around Cleveland Circle by the T - I don't think there is and actual street trolley anymore
Jill |
Indeed -- when we lived in Watertown five years ago we took those buses into Harvard Square all the time. Very convenient and well run. The 71 or 74 I think?
"Dr. Gupta" - the movie Lean should have made.
I forgot about the E line Scoopernicus
julie christie never did anything for me. too...prissy or something.
chicago dyke, copyist
mccabe and mrs miller.
don't look now
ym, as always, mv.
now i have to fnd the widescreen version.
electric buses=trackless trolleys. That's what we called them when they replaced the trolleys that ran on tracks. I am old.
still called trackless trolleys by rail fans. Electric buses, trackless trolley's trolleybuses, all interchangeable.
And now --STEVE's MOVIE REVIEWS©!!!
"Frost/Nixon"
(European title: "Shtupping By Woods on a Snowy Evening")
A voodoo priest turns the great American poet Robert Frost into a zombie who goes on to father a child with Sex and the City star Cynthia Nixon. Implausible low budget horror, but the reggae soundtrack is pretty hot.
You know, had Bush given a shit, he could have helped his legacy by proposing what Obama proposed this morning. The infrastructure has been fragile, even tenuous, at best, for years.
But Bush didn't give a shit.
The friend I'm baking cookies with today voted for Obama. I'm so proud of her, because she is a true independent. I was concerned about her vote because her son is in the Air Force, and he tends to be a bit of a wing nut. In 2004, they were all making fun of John Kerry, for example.
But she said she looked closely at both McCain's and Obama's web sites, read everything, and that there was absolutely no choice in her mind after that. The pick of Palin didn't help, though. L's an International Project Manager for a big corp here; the fact that Palin said she could see Russia from her backyard set L off.
or the streetcars could be, you know, free.
Communist! Wealth-spreader-arounder! Class warrior!
I forgot about the E line Scoopernicus
Jill |
It's such a short run.
"President Obama says he's going to put people to work fixing infrastructure, turning buildings more energy efficient, and fixing up schools to a degree never before seen in America. I like this guy."
and all this is possible because the fucking goopers proved that deficits don't matter. THANKS YOU, BUSH TOADIES!
hecate: he's making better noises than I've heard from a Democrat in a while.
Somebody posted to the effect that if a populist/FDR type Obama shows up to work, he'll get reelected in a landslide and change America and the world for the better, and if a DLC-type Obama shows up for work, maybe not so much. Seems to me the urgency of the economic situation, the disgust with Bush's disasters and his manifest intelligence and political skill afford him a unique opportunity. It'd be tragic to waste it, or allow it to be subverted, obstructed or denied.
Street cars sharing the road with autos in LA consistently impeded traffic. That is why they were ripped out.
cahuenga
er, couldn't you see it the other way around? Autos got in the way of streetcars, so they should have gotten rid of the cars.
Stu - Mr. Jill(who grew up in Watertown) thinks it's the 71 or 73. I grew up in a place where you had to have a car - I was amazed when I moved to Boston.
res ipsa's GC spoiled Rome for some kid by telling him that Marc Antony was killed by Octavius.
Ha!
my hatred of microsoft enlarges by the day...
i think rootless was refering to adminstration not teachers.
euphronius Jenkins
i am perfectly willing and ready to bash two elements of the public school employee pool: admins and counselors. my experiences with those groups has been almost entirely negative. i was shocked by the degree of corruption in the DC system, at the admin level. many other cities i've lived in or had contact with the admins had the same problem. like, wall st. style corruption. i'm not sure what can be done about that, nor the top-heavy nature of far too many school systems.
Portland, OR has "Fareless Square", a Free Transit Zone downtown rat wangers just hate.
"or the streetcars could be, you know, free."
now that's just crazy talk.
John McCain is interfering with US foreign policy.
er, couldn't you see it the other way around? Autos got in the way of streetcars, so they should have gotten rid of the cars.
You've never been to LA have you?
Implausible low budget horror, but the reggae soundtrack is pretty hot.
steve simels
you appear to have screened a different cut than manohla dargis.
That's okay steve, we know what it's like to get old. Short term memory gets to be a bitch.
Ho Ho Ho | 12.06.08 - 10:02 am
Whoever you are, you aren't funny. Or witty. This post was unnecessary. Please cut the crap. It's boring.
i thin we get a mix FDR and DLC BHO.
so a FDBDLHRCO.
Pretty amusing that Hollywood's best treatment of the evil corporations killing mass transit was Who Framed Roger Rabbit?.
Must be a Buttle.
julie christie never did anything for me. too...prissy or something.
chicago dyke
Well, to be fair, what you were asking her to do involved too many accessories.
It'd be tragic to waste it, or allow it to be subverted, obstructed or denied.
For sure. I can't think of anyone who's got such an opportunity to really change things for the good. Huge problems, heavens yes, but that can give him the chance to demand radical change that will be good for a few generations. So mote it be.
"i thin we get a mix FDR and DLC BHO."
in his time, fdr was also plenty dlc-ish.
The cinematography in the Lean version was brilliant, and the theatrical version had an intermission as I recall and I saw it in a ginormous
Cinerama theatre on a huge screen. It was epic.
plantsman |
The "Making Of" documentary on the DVD is well worth watching as well.
res ipsa's GC spoiled Rome for some kid by telling him that Marc Antony was killed by Octavius.
That kid will still find it challenging to figure out how Spiderman avenged Marc Antony.
ill say this about obama's economic team: i like who biden picked to be his advisor
"i thin we get a mix FDR and DLC BHO."
LBJ took the IRT down to 4th Street USA.
Into what singularity did my vanished comment pass, I wonder?
Jill, if memory serves me, and it rarely does, the 71 goes (went?) down Mt. Auburn and into Watertown, and the 73 split off after the cemetery and goes into Belmont.
I may be the ghost of Gen. Zod. He recently past away.
Oil co execs saying gas could drop to $ 1 a gallon next year? WTF? Peak oil aside, isn't it odd that the highest gas prices of all time came under the watch of an "oil man" at 1600 PA Ave?
Speaking of ho ho ho, somewhere in Georgetown Texas, a fat Aggie has just had his mom's credit card rejected by a phone sex worker.
Apparently, the Bush economy is really wreaking havoc.
Sad, really.
off to be productuve and to avoid butler.
ciao
OT Question of the Day
Will Barack Hussein Obama use his full name when he takes the oath of office at noon on January 20th, 2009?
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julie christie never did anything for me. too...prissy or something.
chicago dyke
Loved her in Darling. Great flick.
isn't it odd that the highest gas prices of all time came under the watch of an "oil man" at 1600 PA Ave?
No one could have anticipated . . . .
No one could have anticipated . . . .
'cept you and me. You know what we've been saying here for years:
I told them so!
and all this is possible because the fucking goopers proved that deficits don't matter. THANKS YOU, BUSH TOADIES!
jdw
It's the Age of Supertrains, bitches!
isn't it odd that the highest gas prices of all time came under the watch of an "oil man" at 1600 PA Ave?
No one could have anticipated . . . .
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirato
And that as soon he's sure to leave, they come down?
bah, work.
plus, must make trek to get the xmas shrubbery.
Didn't Christie just star in a film in the last year looking very-beautifully preserved in her 60s?
Okay, time to get ready to bake cookies. I gotta cart bags of baking stuff to my friend's house...(my turn to cruise across town this year).
nor the top-heavy nature of far too many school systems.
chicago dyke, copyist |
The school administrators lament.
"If only we could get rid of the students and faculty
this wouldn't be a bad place to work!"
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"It's the Age of Supertrains, bitches!"
...but...but...i wanna pony! will obama give me a pony?
One of the dubious pleasures of my life these days is Sermo, a physician web site. They came up with an open letter to Obama calling for health care reform. The problems they saw were insurance companies, loss of physician autonomy, tort law and excessive government regulation. They didn't mention things like single payer, other countries' experience, and a lot of other stuff. It made some good points, but the overall effect was of a thwarted sense of entitlement; the implication was that physicians are blameless victims, and the solution is to put them back in charge.
One of the things the docs on the site push for is a physician rebellion against direct billing. They imagine that docs should bill patients directly. The patients would then be liable themselves, entirely, for their bills, and be left to deal with insurance companies in a manner supposedly external to the physician patient relationship. This strikes me as a spectacularly bad idea on a lot of levels.
Over 11,000 docs have signed onto the letter. I've written some of the long-winded, semicolon-laden prose you've come to expect, and been, among other things, called a Communist and a self-hating physician (steve, that one's really worth unpacking, huh?). A better illustration of the idea that docs are a part of the problem couldn't be imagined. Hard to agree with some of them, even when they're right...
plantsman indeed she did.
Forgot the name of the movie.
Without Her?
Depressing but good.
Oil co execs saying gas could drop to $ 1 a gallon next year? WTF?
Oil execs not happy that Big 3 will be building 25 billion worth of hybrid/electrics, methinks.
or the streetcars could be, you know, free.
euphronius Jenkins
that's only for the executive class, of course. taxpayers can and should fund their private jets and hookers and limos. that's "capitalism."
As if the news weren't bad enough:
Amsterdam to close many brothels, marijuana cafes
By TOBY STERLING, Associated Press Writer
36 mins ago
AMSTERDAM, Netherlands – Amsterdam unveiled plans Saturday to close brothels, sex shops and marijuana cafes in its ancient city center as part of a major effort to drive organized crime out of the tourist haven.
You've never been to LA have you?
Lived there for a year, without a car. Walked or took the bus everywhere I went.
Remembering.....?
I saw 'Dr Zhivago' in the company of my first girl friend, who was blond haired and with whom I was very much in love. I can't possibly talk about Julie Christie out of a context of some of the richest memories I've got.
In Michigan, prof, some docs and hospitals are already rebelling. In violation of their contracts with one large insurer (think Blue), they're billing patients immediately instead of waiting for bundled payments from the insurer, then quickly handing the accounts over to collection agencies. Nasty stuff.
I'm getting bombarded by hate mail this morning.
Christie was at last year's Academy Awards looking lovely -- she was born in 1941.
For the bar last night?
I'm getting bombarded by hate mail this morning.
Moe Szyslak, eiditer | Homepage | 12.06.08 - 10:19 am |
Explain?
H I C A!
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I'm getting bombarded by hate mail this morning.
Moe Szyslak, eiditer
Something about Canada politics?
Apparently, the Bush economy is really wreaking havoc.
Sad, really.
steve simels | Homepage | 12.06.08 - 10:11 am | #
That’s what you already said. Because of it you can only afford to buy a hooker every two weeks now. And you have been reduced to accepting living in North Jersey. The inhumanity of is too much.
julie christie never did anything for me. too...prissy or something.
chicago dyke
Oh, yeah. That "who's the best little cocksucker?" scene she has in SHAMPOO just defines prissy.
Somebody posted to the effect that if a populist/FDR type Obama shows up to work, he'll get reelected in a landslide and change America and the world for the better, and if a DLC-type Obama shows up for work, maybe not so much.
that's about my take. it's something that frustrates me and confuses me greatly, to worry that perhaps he doesn't quite yet understand the simplicity and truth of that formulation. i chalk it up to villager's disease, if he chooses the latter route and shoots himself in the foot in terms of reelection prospects and "legacy."
Away From Her was the name of the movie.
Directed by Sarah Polley.
No, different things I've written. People disagree, which is fine, but sometimes they can be so idiotic. Got one this morning that said the animals wouldn't survive if we weren't cutting down all the trees so that they can feed on new growth.
Yes, Indeed. Thanks, HBK.
I think Julie Christie was my first girl crush.
Somebody posted to the effect that if a populist/FDR type Obama shows up to work, he'll get reelected in a landslide and change America and the world for the better, and if a DLC-type Obama shows up for work, maybe not so much.
This sounds about right to me.
IMDB has her photo from last year's Oscars.
That "who's the best little cocksucker?" scene she has in SHAMPOO just defines prissy.
steve simels
You may have given me a reason to watch "Shampoo."
ok, alright already! julie christie is the hottest hawtie to ever singe with hotness. goodness, you people can be tenacious.
hayek still blows her out of the water, imho.
/scampers/
megisi: these guys fantasize that the doctor-patient relationship will be magically restored to some imagined Arcadian ideal once the insurers deal with patients rather than physicians. Docs hate insurance companies. They hate the overhead, the million forms, the phone calls, all of it. So, the thinking goes, the insurers and the patients can deal with each other, and the docs will then become independent, again, of insurers' constraints. They actually think patients wouldn't object, and that patient care would actually improve if they did this.
Me, I think it's astonishingly self-serving and, even if it weren't, deeply politically stupid...
Got one this morning that said the animals wouldn't survive if we weren't cutting down all the trees so that they can feed on new growth.
Moe Szyslak, eiditer | Homepage | 12.06.08 - 10:22 am | #
Sorry, but at least it wasn't a young intern's mother..........
And speaking of hookers I can't afford, do you guys have an 800 number for a phone sex service that delivers Cheetos?
That would pretty much be heaven for me, especially over the holidays.
it's something that frustrates me and confuses me greatly, to worry that perhaps he doesn't quite yet understand the simplicity and truth of that formulation. i chalk it up to villager's disease, if he chooses the latter route and shoots himself in the foot in terms of reelection prospects and "legacy."
chicago dyke
Umm, CD . . .
Barack Obama just got a black man with the middle name "Hussein" elected President.
I think you can trust his political instincts.
Hayek is no slouch, that's clear. I loved her flirty appearances on "Ugly Betty."
I think if you click on Moe's "homepage" link and read his first item, you'll see why he's getting bombarded...
Your president-elect speaks, yo.
Sorry, but at least it wasn't a young intern's mother.........
Believe me, my interns outclass me, and they know it. The youngsters were quite stylish last night, and I'm sure they had fun as the night went on, which is why I cleared out and gave them their space.
Got one this morning that said the animals wouldn't survive if we weren't cutting down all the trees so that they can feed on new growth.
that's some extra-strength dumb ya got there, Moe. sorry to hear it.
and i wanted to respond to "you can walk" argument. again, that's still not true in too many areas. outside big cities with well funded transportation systems, it really can be unpossible to get to work, shop, take your kids around, etc., without a car. remember that scene in "bowling for columbine" with that poor woman from flint, who had to take a bus 4hrs a day to get to her state-mandated min wage job as a condition of being on welfare? that's a reality for a lot of people here, even those in medium sized cities.
Hayek is no slouch, that's clear.
[jaw drops] Spoken like a gay man, plantsman. NO slouch? OMFG, as a straight woman, she is waaaaaaaaaaay more than 'no slouch.'
XO
Goood mornin', Jeffraham. Thanks for releasing teh little hostages!
I'm with you, doc ... of course, a couple hundred of those angry docs didn't mind slurping up a large Michigan insurer's free booze and prime rib last night at a dinner reception at the company's HQ.
But, I also understand their anger and how difficult it is to practice medicine with all the business crap insurers force them to deal with (and pay for). It will never be love, but the relationship still needs work.
And speaking of hookers I can't afford, do you guys have an 800 number for a phone sex service that delivers Cheetos?
That would pretty much be heaven for me, especially over the holidays.
ho ho ho | 12.06.08 - 10:25 am | #
Hi steve, they told me you namesteal at the drop of a hat.
(blushes...can't help being who he is) (hates "20 seconds" crap)
Forrest J. Ackerman, dead at 92...
that's a reality for a lot of people here, even those in medium sized cities.
chicago dyke,
Of course it is.
My only point is that if we spend $gazillion on highways and mass transit, but practically nothing at all on rebuilding cities so that at least some people in some places can walk places they need to go.
"Got one this morning that said the animals wouldn't survive if we weren't cutting down all the trees so that they can feed on new growth."
Which is a gross oversimplification of the ecological concept of ecotone, in which edges among different vegetation types and forest disturbances - including fire and logging - create feed and habitat for certain kinds of animals.
jac: i'll only point out the great differences b/w getting elected, and governing. cf: george bush.
that's a reality for a lot of people here, even those in medium sized cities.
Not to mention all areas are not equally safe to walk.
And steve, just a tip. You should not have started your name stealing comment with "And spoeaking of hookers I can't afford". That really gave you away.
You should have said something like "Speaking of hookers"
Walking in midwestern winters isn't always very fun, either. Seems like buses are a better choice because the routes can be changed and I too hate overhead wires.
That said, in the photo album my granny made for me was a picture of the very last streetcar she rode the day the city took them out of commission. She loved her street car.
The youngsters were quite stylish last night, and I'm sure they had fun as the night went on, which is why I cleared out and gave them their space.
When I was a journalism student in college, one of our profs was a guy in his early 60s who had ended his career owning a small newspaper in the Sierra foothills. Great guy, real knowledgable, got along with all us "kids." One time, I had a crazy college student party at the place I was living and for the hell of it, invited him along. Well, he showed up, held his own in the booze and dope department (this was back in the days when journalists were MEN!) and in general was having a good time. Later that evening, I walked into the darkened living room and there, on a couch in the corner, was the "prof" in a deep, mutual clinch with one of the hottest little gals in the school paper's newsroom...
wombat: the contempt and lack of concern many physicians have for their patients continues to astound me. leaving aside the hypocrisy megisi mentions above (and i've enjoyed some Prime meat and golf course time thx to insurance companies, so i know) i am always depressed to realize how working in today's medical system can dehumanize the doctors. there's this column in the MD humor mag "placebo journal" called 'those darn narc seekers.' it purports to be humorous recounts of "the lengths junkies will go to get a script." it is utterly devoid, in most instances, of any compassion or concern for the question of "why is this person addicted, and what can i do to help them," as if all junkies are subhuman drains on the system who should simply be jailed or discarded.
When I suggest people walk, I often get the sort of response Atrios gets when he talks about high densities and so forth: Unpossible! We can't all live in Manhattan!
It's as if the only choice is between A) everyone walks everywhere, mandated by law and enforced by armed goons or B) everyone drives everywhere, because it's impossible for not even one person anywhere in the universe to walk.
There is, I'd suggest, a big area in between. And talking about walking and suggesting building cities to accommodate walkers might budge the reality just slightly in one direction.
Don't worry, I'm not sending armed goons to enforce the walking law.
Let's make coffee and breakie.
brb
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Strong writing and opinion-mongering on your blog, Moe. The level of vitriol you receive is a likely result of your obvious passion, I suppose. I once took death threats from a couple of religious nuts because we ran Michael Jackson trial stories off the wire.
In Michigan, prof, some docs and hospitals are already rebelling.
All I can say is thank God my corp is actually looking for ways to expand care to Medicare/Medicaid patients.
They actually think patients wouldn't object, and that patient care would actually improve if they did this.
Prof Wombat, are they genuinely unable to see this for what it obviously is (dumping the problem of our stupid insurance system onto the patients)?
My first thought is we;d have a lot of unemployed doctors running around, since it would be so difficult to deal with insurance that most people just wouldn't go. It would actually turn the majority of the insured into the uninsured, for practical purposes.
Stella!!
Ho Ho Ho
I bet you can't guess who I am, being as I'm so subtle.
When speaking of physicians, let's remember that they were, as a group, absolutely opposed to Medicare.
As a group, they could force single-payer virtually overnight, if they wanted. Their only concern, however, is that damn paperwork. They don't care how it goes away, they just want it gone.
Oh, cd, that's a level of cynicism that just saddens me. I blame med schools.
Docs who want to go back to the good old days conveniently forget those who were forced to accept a dozen eggs and some uncarded wool for their services during tough times.
Dave-- there's a good chance I know that editor. In fact, I'm guessing I do.
Hola, Gromit--are you in Chile?
Gromit!!!! Arrive safely?
there's a good chance I know that editor. In fact, I'm guessing I do.
This was (I hate to say it) almost 30 years ago... he was at San Jose State.
wombat haz mail.
When I suggest people walk, I often get the sort of response Atrios gets when he talks about high densities and so forth: Unpossible! We can't all live in Manhattan!
Moe, We just flew 6000 miles so that we could walk around in a high density city.
That's probably not what you were looking for.
Supposed to be mid-80s today in Santiago.
We are in Santiago, Chile. Arrived safely after an 11 hour nonstop from JFK. Steerage, of course.
Explored a a little of the city au pied (as we say in Spanish), and are beginning to think about finding some lunch.
As a group, they could force single-payer virtually overnight, if they wanted.
i dunno about that, these days. insurance companies have very deep pockets, and are a much bigger political force than the doctors orgs. of which there are several, and who don't agree on a lot of stuff. short of a national doctor's strike, and very specificially in the DC area, i'm not sure what they can do, at this point. or rather, i can think of a lot they could do, but it would have to be in concert with other orgs, nurses unions and hospital administrators and unions and suchlike. they are only a 'force to be reckoned with' in a national sense in their own minds, forgive me for saying.
hola Gromit!
Well, in any event, being married keeps me more or less in the responsible behavior category, at least when it comes to fraternizing with interns.
Plantsman, I'd guess it' in the high 70's now.
And the have plants. Green plants, with blossoms! Lots of geraniums (growing as bushes), bougainvillea, palms, and other flowing bushes and trees that we did not recognize.
Explored a a little of the city au pied (as we say in Spanish), and are beginning to think about finding some lunch.
Wait! You flew halfway around the world and are still on about the same time schedule?
:D
The most remarkable doctor appointment I've ever had was with an orthopedic surgeon who took 20 minutes (!!!) in the midst of examining my broken leg to give me both barrels and a couple of grenades about how insurers were killing his profession. Wasn't much I could do with his hands on my leg ... the ultimate captive audience.
Hola Gromit.
Hope your flight wasn't too awful.
I figured it would be different from Vermont.
Grommit-- Mrs. Moe is urging me to join her at her next conference... in Australia.
Modern? Sounds just like the cable cars I rode in in NYC back when I was a kid. I remember them paving over the tracks as they shut each line down in the 1950s and replaced them with noisy exhaust belching buses.
RIP Forrest: good times
It's impossible to overstate the extent to which docs think they're embattled. Greedy insurers, unscrupulous lawyers, inefficient and rigid government, all looking for their control, their piece of the pie, all greedy, meddlesome and in the way. Ungrateful, uncompliant patients ready to sue or invoke federal regulation. Obscene tuition debts. Increasingly complex business environments adding to office overhead. The doctor-patient relationship going to hell.
Quite a list. There's even a fair amount of truth to it. What the docs' problem often is revolves around two things. First, their assumption that they should be in charge of the whole shebang, and that'd fix it, calling on a memory of an ideal past that never was. Second, they have no idea of how unattractive it is to most people to whine about how awful it all is, while making average salaries of over $200,000 and being all but guaranteed work, and spending maybe 10-15 min tops per patient encounter mostly (this, obviously, not all the docs' fault). They wind up on the outside of the debate, opposed, in the end, by everybody, viewed as a fat target, and retarding, rather than advancing, the cause of reform.
Speaking about the economy, maybe we should think about letting this big room we have had for years go when the lease is up and moving to a smaller chat room.
We don’t really need so much space anymore. We could save a lot on the rent and the utilities too.
I'm taking a poll.
Does anybody here think I have
1) Friends
2) A life
3) Male genitalia.
I'd like to know, really.
Much of Coastal Chile has a Mediterranean Climate, somewhat similar to California's -- although down south it should be much cooler.
The Halifax Explosion was 91 years ago today.
Hope your flight wasn't too awful.
HBK, it was smooth and on time. LAN seems vastly superior to US carriers. Newly renovated plane, served both dinner and breakfast, with free Chilean wine in glasses made out of (get this) glass.
The Halifax Explosion was 91 years ago today.
Moe Szyslak
If people haven't read about this, they should. Unbelievable blast.
served both dinner and breakfast, with free Chilean wine in glasses made out of (get this) glass.
Gromit | 12.06.08 - 10:51 am | #
[rolls eyes] [contemplates how to hide jealous behavior]
i'd be seething with jealousy, gromit, but it's too fucking cold. enjoy the blooms for me, yo.
Sounds pretty plush for steerage.
Much of Coastal Chile has a Mediterranean Climate, somewhat similar to California's -- although down south it should be much cooler.
It does seem California-ish. Santiago is surrounded by mountains and the pollution seems like LA in the bad old days.
Lots of low clouds and fog in the morning, which gradually burns off. Supposedly, there are coastal plant species that get their water from the fog. (Don't redwoods do that?)
A lot of the cacti found in Bolivia were placed into the genus Lobivia -- I always imagine booze was involved.
Here's wiki on the Halifax Explosion:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Hal...lifax_Explosion
If anyone ever visits, I'll give you a tour of the city, with lots of explosion stuff mixed in.
Redwoods can precipitate fog, yes.
Coast Redwoods, anyway.
sheets
So, Moe's neighborhood was directly affected.
Does anybody here think I have
1) Friends
2) A life
I'd like to know, really.
ho ho ho | 12.06.08 - 10:50 am | #
No poll needed steve. I have friends and a life just the same as all the others here.
Lots of low clouds and fog in the morning, which gradually burns off. Supposedly, there are coastal plant species that get their water from the fog. (Don't redwoods do that?)
Gromit
Damn I'd love to check out the Chilean rainforests!
Yep the coastal redwoods live only in the fog zone where fog drip adds about 10% or so to the annual rainfall.
Supposedly the Alerce cypress in Chile does the same, it's the southern equivalent of the redwood, only it's the Peru current causing the advection fogs, not the CA current.
Much of Coastal Chile has a Mediterranean Climate, somewhat similar to California's -- although down south it should be much cooler.
plantsman
do they need shrill gaii bloggers down there? i can pick up spanish quickly, and am available.
No poll needed steve. I have friends and a life just the same as all the others here. My friends are all here.
There's el Fredo and many more.
My life is this place.
Stella!!
xtophr | 12.06.08 - 10:38 am
and it only took an hour an twenty minutes...
"How an IRA gunrunner reinvented herself as a Tory councillor"
Not much difference is there really?
Being in the IRA had nothing to do with being on the left or right, and the gunrunner bit definately fits in nicely with the Tory's view of life.
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