I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Goodness. I haven't even had a chance to look at the Gambas.
Another 9/11 will be good for you!
Damn you mer!
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As a kid, if I ran down the steps stumbled and fell, my Dad would say 'that's good for you. That'll teach you a lesson!'
Thanks Stu.
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What's the next tapas course?
Teh hate, anger and sickness among conservatives is spreading like a plague.
They're constitutionally incapable of admitting they were wrong, so they must thrash out ever more irrationally at imaginary enemies.
Is Atrios is Spain???
I've been working alot and haven't had time to play where's waldo, lol
Fox News' John Gibson went so far as to endorse Bykofsky's thesis on the air: "I think it's going to take a lot of dead people to wake America up."
They're horrible people.
Horribe.
The upcoming Reichstag fire is going to be lovely.
Didn't Stu Bykofsky used to write really awful film or concert reviews in the nineties?
Damn NetZero with damns. Randomly dropped, and over 20 mins. to get back.
an al qaeda threat....ooohh did teh nsa pick it up from their illegal spying? i TOTALLY doubt it....nope - it's based on chatter on web sites - what a FUCKING JOKE!
Funny factoid - the origin webiste seems to be an Israeli one.
And the upcoming war with Iran marches on! Let's double down our bets with human lives - if you just play long enough, sooner or later you just GOTTA win it all back!
And the GOP motto: "Sometimes, someone else has just gotta take one for the team"
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They're nostalgic for the time when no one was allowed to disagree or to question the Boy King.
The lives of 3000+ Other People seem a small price to pay for that.
I mean, look at Iraq.
I mean, Iran.
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Officially, It's an Undisclosed Location , but Barcelona has been floated.
"Oh Where in the World is Blogger Duncan Black?"
A few days ago we got a good clue that indicated Barcelona - I just can't place those shrimp (or whatever they're called).
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atrios, the voice of reason, shouting in the wilderness of idiocy, foolishness, and fascism.
"GOP Motto: Sometimes, someone else has just gotta take one for the team"
I'd put that on my bumper
thanks, gang.
Didn't Stu Bykofsky used to write really awful film or concert reviews in the nineties?
Better. Gossip columnist, according to posters the other night.
Shouldn't Atrios be all busy drinking and eating greasalicious tapas by now? I had thought we'd get a slower pace than the usual Saturday morning stairmaster blogging. I guess maybe the place has WiFi and its too loud for conversation or something.
Re-HICA!
Scottish Opium Burritos Accomplished!
Freedom!
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That Gambas! pic IS rather Gaudi .
They're constitutionally incapable of admitting they were wrong, so they must thrash out ever more irrationally at imaginary enemies.
Well stated.
Wake America up?
In light of the fact that Bush, Cheney, and the republics have gotten everything they've asked for in the last 6 years, I would like one of these pieces of shit like Stu here to actually define what in the fuck they are talking about.
Dammed Haloscan-level bad NetZero is threatening to cut out again. Think i'd better wish you all good day again, before it fries completely.
Later!
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That Gambas! pic IS rather Gaudi .
plantsman,
Let's not Goya overboard with Spanish puns, 'kay people?
I heard the A-man was in Miami.
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Congratulations, JP; on your freedom and sanctioned mobility.
blerb, it's nearly 5 pm in Spain. Atrios probably took those photos hours ago, and uploaded them back at the hotel. After all, it's still siesta time in Barcelona!
Shouldn't Atrios be all busy drinking and eating greasalicious tapas by now?
I think it's still siesta time.
P.S., as i go:
i want to change that to "GOP Motto: Sometimes, you, not me, just has to take one for the team". Clearer meaning, even if it scans no better.
thanks, and good day.
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I think I have to have me some shrimps tonight.
So what are we going to do if they try to call off elections in the face of another actual or "imminent" attack. Shouldn't we be planning for this?
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What Stuie is pining for is for us to rally around The Chimp again so he can dispose of what's left of The Constitution.
I heard the A-man was in Miami.
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Jeffraham Prestonian
W
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I would hope there will be millions protesting in the streets day and night, like they did in the Ukraine.
plantsman: Congratulations, JP; on your freedom and sanctioned mobility.
Thanks, man! Wish I could share it with ya.
Funny thang -- other than the Scottish opium burrito fix, and a quick stop at Target (where I left half my purchases, last night -- duh!), I don't particularly have anywhere to go, today! 
I'll probably run a few errands... drive into town, and have my head shaved, maybe stop by the scooter store (he's one of the hosts of the Tomato Art Festival... and no, I have no idea what that's about).
Tomorrow, I'm taking windy country roads to Kingston Springs, TN, to visit a friend out on a mountaintop.
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So what are we going to do if they try to call off elections in the face of another actual or "imminent" attack. Shouldn't we be planning for this?
They'll just post another Paris Hilton blow job video or Tom Cruise porno clip and the entire nation will forget to vote.
So what are we going to do if they try to call off elections in the face of another actual or "imminent" attack. Shouldn't we be planning for this?
In practical terms, any effective planning for this eventuality would constitute "terrorist activity".
[Arrgghh! Let me out of this crack den!]
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Oh, I owe Marcellina una bebida.
.John Gibson went so far as to endorse Bykofsky's thesis on the air: "I think it's going to take a lot of dead people to wake America up."
So even more media figures are adopting this absurd position? Americans are tiring of all this militaristic pseudo-fascist bluster so they must be punished?
It is time for one of our candidates to take this one on on the teebee. It is a slow pitch if ever there was one. Fox News is calling for another terorist attack. Hit it out of the park, people.
I love the tomates pic below. I wonder if our intrepid traveller would mind if I kept a copy.
So what are we going to do if they try to call off elections in the face of another actual or "imminent" attack. Shouldn't we be planning for this?
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Sparkle Plenty
Why call OFF the elections under an imminent threat. The Nation will flood to the polls to have Saint Rudy, the 'hero of 9/11' protect us from the evildoers.
An imminent threat just before the election will be fantabulos news for Republicans.
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Here's an artists rendition of how NY might be 'helped' in Stu's sense:
http://
www.fabiofeminofantascien...kebonestell.jpg
Why call OFF the elections under an imminent threat.
"I don't care who votes, so long as I get to count them" -Josef Dzughasvili, a.k.a. Josef Stalin
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Why does this Philly News idjit thing that another 9/11 would bring us together or get people to pay attention or wake up?
Those things would not be my initial reaction this time and I don't think I'm alone in that sentiment.
It is time for one of our candidates to take this one on on the teebee. It is a slow pitch if ever there was one. Fox News is calling for another terorist attack. Hit it out of the park, people.
Unfortunately, the Dems are too scared to do so, as Helen Thomas writes about today:
The White House stampeded members of Congress and they wilted. The question is who is going to protect the privacy rights of the U.S. citizen? Certainly not Bush and not Congress.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/
op...4_thomas10.html
A FReeper describes Democrats:
Democrats of today are comprised of self centered, self absorbed, overly mommy’d, loud/aggressive misfits whom haven’t a clue to reality.
As I’ve posted numerous times THEY believe themselves to be the “INTELLECTUALS”, and “PROGRESSIVES”. A self entitlement that should tell us all their perspective of those of us not of their ilk.
Holier than thou..., snobs, elitist, Childlike....I could go on with the description, but my point is made.
In our open and welcoming society where we elect leaders to Represent our perspectives relative to our Constitution these sorts haven’t a “Tinkers chance in “H” of winning their goals. As a loud/aggressive, self absorbed, (all of the above) lot they need all the votes they can muster through/by their BS, Con, or other means, thus their complicity with vermin.
Read Marx for in depth enlightenment beyond the focus of criminal/Terrorist complicity.
You may have made your point, but whom got in the way?
Those things would not be my initial reaction this time and I don't think I'm alone in that sentiment
It's not the initial reaction, it's the reaction after weeks of the 24/7 FOX 'News' cycle.
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They won't call off the elections. If a Dem wins, then they'll arrange an "attack" and the inauguration will be "Postponed" until the "emergency" is "under control."
Those things would not be my initial reaction this time and I don't think I'm alone in that sentiment.
gimmeabreak
The maladministration can have only one response if that happens: the ol' stab-in-th-back.
What I don't know is whether the majority of people will respond by saying, "Wait a minute -- weren't we supposed to give these guys all this power so they'd prevent this from happening?"
It seems to me it could go either way.
In our open and welcoming society
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
Way to disprove your own point, you brownshirted jackass!
Last week O'Reilly kept challenging Dodd to disavor Kos -- I would have challenged him to distance himself from Al Qaeda, since he invited them to San Francisco.
Logically, if you wouldn't stop an attack, you help Al Qaeda committ one.
So, Stu, Billo: will you pledge not to assist Al Qaeda if they come to you and ask for your help in attacking an American city?
What I don't know is whether the majority of people will respond by saying, "Wait a minute -- weren't we supposed to give these guys all this power so they'd prevent this from happening?"
Hence the utterly, uterly critical role of the mighty Wurlitzer in selling the Gooper-desired spin to the public.
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Osama has another BFF -- the one who says in speeches "HEAR THE WORDS OF OSAMA BIN LADEN."
And, once again, can you imagine if a liberal said, for example, "We need another hit so that people understand that Bush's fascism and theft of our Constitutional rights isn't the answer"?
It seems to me it could go either way.
V for Virginia
Perhaps for the Fox viewers it could be some sort of rallying something, but for the rest of us...I just don't even SEE Bykofsky's point is all. I just find it sick.
Although, it could be that the A-man's in my neck of the woods, today, given the earlier photo.
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shorter Bykofsky:
vote Republican or the country gets it!
You may have made your point, but whom got in the way?
LR, that putz would not recognize it, but he just described himself and his buddies to a 'T'.
I think it's still siesta time.
Karin
He's sleeping with a plate of shrimp? That's perverted!
Here's an artists rendition of how NY might be 'helped' in Stu's sense:
http:// www.fabiofeminofantascien...kebonestell.jpg
Mike |
From the url that looks like a painting by the late Chesley Bonstell who was a famous painter of astronomy related images. I suspect it was meant to be an imaginary view of what might happened if some large meteorites hit NYC.
just a guess
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"HEAR THE WORDS OF OSAMA BIN LADEN."
P O'Neill
What -- the preznit, you mean?
(Sorry if I really did already say that.)
John Gibson went so far as to endorse Bykofsky's thesis on the air: "I think it's going to take a lot of dead people to wake America up."
There are a lot of dead people in Iraq, and most Americans have woken up. Just not the morons at FAUX or the rest of the corporate media, for that matter.
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Stu? Eew!
I just popped in and recoiled at the sight of the name "Stu Bykofsky". He's a latter-day Archie Bunker, one of those know-it-all men about town who belongs on his regular stool at the corner taproom, regaling slack-jawed, beetle-browed proles with his wisdom, vast experience, and sardonic wit.
I came across him the other day in the "Daily News", the print equivalent of a corner taproom in which he's comfortably esconced. He was ragging most ignorantly on Cindy Sheehan-- a savage belch of contempt in the name of God and Country.
This country wants waking up and setting to rights! Who hasn't felt that way for one reason or another? But it's practically a mantra to brownshirts.
From the url that looks like a painting by the late Chesley Bonstell who was a famous painter of astronomy related images. I suspect it was meant to be an imaginary view of what might happened if some large meteorites hit NYC.
just a guess
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Agent Orange
I've got his book on the planets and their moons. Very cool. He also did other, more commercial stuff ... I have his poster for the New York Central Building (which I think is now the the Helmsley Building) hanging on the wall in my living room.
"HEAR THE WORDS OF OSAMA BIN LADEN."
Sounds like some "Dune" quote : "Hear the Words of Osama bin Laden, for He is the Kwickoats Hatrack of the Bengay Jesuits blah blah blah"
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Unfortunately, the Dems are too scared to do so, as Helen Thomas writes about today:
Yes, well, Dem congresscritters being stampeded by some (likely bogus) secret intelligence is a very different thing from sicko journos with major media cred actually calling for a terrorist attack. There is no downside whatsoever to taking that one on. The people who are saying this have done a flying double twist over the shark.
"From the url that looks like a painting by the late Chesley Bonstel"
Thanks for the info, I'll look him up, but those aren't meteors....
wikipedia seems to have a lot of errors lately
LR, that putz would not recognize it, but he just described himself and his buddies to a 'T'.
billy b - west coast blues
Yeah, "whom" is he kidding?
This is precisely the threshold of psychosis that a lot of us have been predicting the right wingers would cross as their delusions become more profound and more undermined by cognitive dissonance. Fundamentalist religionists and fascists become more and more violent in their thoughts and actions the closer they come to the realization that reality and civilization have irrevocably passed them by.
I guarantee Bykovsky is flattered and feeling quite empowered by all the national notoriety he's receiving. I suspect he'll become more obsessed and crazy now.
Attention will do that to people.
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"I think it's going to take a lot of dead people to wake America up."
Bottom line, these people need psychiatric help.
bbl.
Yes, well, Dem congresscritters being stampeded by some (likely bogus) secret intelligence is a very different thing from sicko journos with major media cred actually calling for a terrorist attack. There is no downside whatsoever to taking that one on. The people who are saying this have done a flying double twist over the shark.
It is of a piece with smug smirking Bushiviks simply ignoring subpoenas and laws. The new status symbol is 'getting away with it', for it shows that you are too important to be held accountable.
Journamalists masturbating to imagined American carnage, or Goopers refusing Congressional subpoenas: it's all one aristocracy, with House of Lords status being "Have you flipped off the rules and been praised?" as the determiner.
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Which city does this jerk think should be hit by his desired 9/11-style attack? Philadelphia? After all, charity begins at home.
This guy is definitely flawed. That the paper keeps him on is telling.
Stinky: Bottom line, these people need psychiatric help.
That's why I insist on keeping a lead lobotomy kit nearby, just in case one needs urgent treatment.
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Thanks for the info, I'll look him up, but those aren't meteors....
Mike
Some of Bonestell's cityscapes.
The Tomato Art Fest sounds right up my alley.
I guarantee Bykovsky is flattered and feeling quite empowered by all the national notoriety he's receiving. I suspect he'll become more obsessed and crazy now.
Attention will do that to people.
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Agent Orange
Some of his fellow nutbags are pretending to back away from his remarks. I think they secretly agree with him, though.
Here are the original images from Bonestell. They are meant to be A- bombs.
http://www.villagevoice.com/
news...rd,37415,1.html
What.A.Douche.
My cats are on my dining table, completely mesmerized by a female cardinal sitting on branch two feet from the window.
Somehow, it adds a bit of normalcy to the day.
Hmmm...if America is not "reawakened" to the danger of terrorism, America will become more susceptible to attack. The way to "awaken" America is...a terrorist attack.
Karin: The Tomato Art Fest sounds right up my alley.
The drawbacks? It's in East Nashville, mostly near the Titans stadium. There's a meaningless pre-season game being played this afternoon. I dunno if there will be scooter-friendly bridges to get me across the river, since they shut down the Woodland St. bridge at some point during the game day festivities.
Hell, I could ride down and probably get some free grub from tailgaters.
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Some of his fellow nutbags are pretending to back away from his remarks. I think they secretly agree with him, though.
Lime Rickey
Of couse they do. Nothing gives fascist nutbags the ability to sieze power like a massive terorist attack.
The day that "9/11 changed everything" became everybody's catch-phase, I knew that Osama had won. He and the nutbags have convergent interests.
Logic don't enter into it. these are tantrums cast as discourse.
But i really really do have to go now. Good day and good luck!
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A-bombs. Now, imagine H-bombs.
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Well this is hardly surprising.
Conservatves have been financing terrorist attacks on America for decades.
In fact, Conservatives financed and assisted Hitler's rise to power in Germany. GWB's grandfather, Prescott Bush, was instrumental in that task.
There were also plans created by conservatives in OUR military to lead attacks on American cities in order to manufacture support for an attack on Cuba. Because... um, Cuba was such a threat that it was worth attacking our own country?
And when Clinton was in office, how many conservatives were cheerleading terrorist attacks against family planning health clinics? Conservatives were also responsible for the bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City.
All their rhetoric distracts from one thing: Conservatives hate America, and long to see it in flames. That's their end-goal and objective. That's why their current "best and brightest" are doing everything they can to destroy America from within.
Hmmm...if America is not "reawakened" to the danger of terrorism, America will become more susceptible to attack. The way to "awaken" America is...a terrorist attack.
Ren Hoek
And there are people who actually don't get how bizarre that is.
Maybe it's time to read "Catch-22" again.
Or maybe not.
. . . Philadelphia's shame (And, yes, we're to blame for Smerconish and Beck as well) Stu Bykofsky
I'd add that black fellow, right wing Rev. Joe something to the list too.
A-bombs. Now, imagine H-bombs.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
Well there IS a big difference.
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A-bombs. Now, imagine H-bombs.
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Jeffraham Prestonian
Uh ... no, thanks.
I guarantee Bykovsky is flattered and feeling quite empowered by all the national notoriety he's receiving.
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Same thing happened with Joey Vento, the meatball "civic leader" and owner of Geno's Steaks who put up "This is America, please order In English" signs.
He was a local hero who got a big bump and is now worshipped by bigoted troglodytes everywhere.
He and Lou Barletta, mayor of Hazelton, PA and another celebrity xenophobe, are the pride of Italian-Americans descended directly from a tribe of Native Italian-Americans who have been here since prehistoric times. Speaking English.
All their rhetoric distracts from one thing: Conservatives hate America, and long to see it in flames. That's their end-goal and objective.
Precisely why they have to accuse people on the "left" of feeling that way.
According to Stu another terrorist attack would bring America together. I shit you not. I have the email to prove this line of thinking.
A-bombs. Now, imagine H-bombs.
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Jeffraham Prestonian
Uh ... no, thanks.
Brooklyn Girl, mini tornado
I thought pretty much the same thing -- "Do I have to?"
:>)
I guess those English-speaking ur-native Italian-Americans came over with Columbus.
i remember when W said that 'any nation who harbors terrorists will be held accountable.'
now that the intelligence community is saying that osama is in pakistan, W says we can't go in and get him cuz it would disrupt pakistans current power structure.
just fucking shoot me.
With circulation in the toilet, I think the Philly Daily News is going to ride this puppy for as long as they can.
the pride of Italian-Americans descended directly from a tribe of Native Italian-Americans who have been here since prehistoric times.
No doubt English speakers from day one.
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He and Lou Barletta, mayor of Hazelton, PA and another celebrity xenophobe, are the pride of Italian-Americans descended directly from a tribe of Native Italian-Americans who have been here since prehistoric times. Speaking English.
A A Fair
I mean, can you imagine what a real President would have said to the world after 9/11? Exactly the opposite, I think. "9/11 changed NOTHING". Eat our shorts Osama, we will get you in the end and then history will forget you. You cannot touch what we are with your evil plots. That was the speech the world needed, but instead we got the chimperor screeching "9/11 changed everything, we are at WAR! OOK OOK!!"
Nuance: he was against making a large pile of dead Americans before he was for making a large pile of dead Americans.
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CNN anchor:
We can do all we can, but this is mining, in the end, "things like this just happen."
Government mining guy:
"That is not my opinion."
"they'll blame the Democrats and liberals by saying it they didn't always try to block all the efforts the Bush administration did to protect this nation . . . . ."
Sadly, I agree
Culture of TrÜth
If there is "another terrorist attack on the US" (meaning, another staged false flag event), most will blame the Bush Administration. Most of the people on this website, in their criticism of other Americans' ignorance for what they assume would be an erroneous assumption in the assessment of blame, are implicitly blaming the Bushies. This is only logical, as it has become obvious who would stand to gain from another "attack", and that is the same people who have blatantly exploited the last one. This is the only thing keeping another attack from happening. The Bushies do not know how we'd react. After the water pipe blew up in Manhattan, according to Randi Rhoads, people were flooding the streets traumatized, screaming "fuck Bush!!", as if he were directly responsible, and as if they were anticipating another attack for precisely this reason. The possibility of widespread civil unrest in the event of a "terrorist attack" cannot be discounted given what has become common knowledge about the last one.
Same thing happened with Joey Vento, the meatball "civic leader" and owner of Geno's Steaks who put up "This is America, please order In English" signs.
And caused long lines around Pat's Steaks. Small line outside Geno's. Don't mix politics and food, Joey. You're always going to lose.
Okay, imagine not H-bombs, but lovesponges.
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With circulation in the toilet, I think the Philly Daily News is going to ride this puppy for as long as they can.
Monica_A:
A few years ago it seemed to me the editorial page of the Philly Daily News was actually becoming more progressive even to the Left of the Inquirer (hardly a leftist flyer itself).
Is circulation really 'in the toilet'?
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Is circulation really 'in the toilet'?
As I remember it. The Knight-Ridder sale caused a lot of upheaval.
Government mining guy:
"That is not my opinion."
Culture of TrÜth (Meow!)
Oops. Who let him out? He's gonna be chained to a desk writing reports that praise Jefe Bush three times a page.
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The possibility of widespread civil unrest in the event of a "terrorist attack" cannot be discounted given what has become common knowledge about the last one.
Duane V
I just don't think this is a given. What happens in Blue York is not necessarily representative of what might happen in another part of the country. Scared people don't always react rationally. This is, of course, why the preznit and his pet chimp keep them afraid.
Belated Congrats on geting the license back, JP.
CNN:
"Relations with French
President Jaques Chirac Sour"
Well, I do think that just about everybody who flies and has therefore had to remove their shoes, give up their shampoo, and wait in endless lines again and again, ids going to be pretty pissed when they find out that none of that actually made them safer.
"Relations with French
President Jaques Chirac Sour"
Culture of TrÜth (Meow!)
Whaaaaaa?
Karin: Belated Congrats on geting the license back, JP.
Thanks! $1522.50! Whoo-hoooo!
I guess the Kymco People S250 can wait until next year.
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"Relations with French
President Jaques Chirac Sour"
They do realize Sarkozy is now President of France?
Good morning.
Taking a quick respite before we move some more effin' crap.
Have we decoded A-Man's undisclosed location?
A little Bobo's World with your breakfast...
Aug. 11, 2007, 12:47AM
Pastor accused of dragging girl behind his van
By JEORGE ZARAZUA
San Antonio Express-news
A San Antonio pastor and an employee of his Christian boot camp were arrested Friday on aggravated assault charges, accused of dragging a girl behind a van after she failed to keep up during a running exercise.
Investigators with the Nueces County Sheriff's Office arrested Charles E. Flowers, 46, shortly before noon at the Faith Outreach Center in northwest San Antonio, said Brad E. Bailey, a spokesman for the Schertz Police Department.
Authorities said both Flowers and Bassitt restrained the girl June 12, tying her to the back of a van with a piece of rope before dragging her on her stomach at the Love Demonstrated Ministries' boot camp in Banquete, about 10 miles west of Corpus Christi.
Last year, Love Demonstrated Ministries reported private and government contributions totaling $314,673 to operate the boot camp, with nearly 89 percent of the costs, $278,549, going for salaries.
The camp was created to "reinstill the values that have been lost in our society for a couple of generations, values such as discipline, morality, unity and integrity."
After the water pipe blew up in Manhattan, according to Randi Rhoads, people were flooding the streets traumatized, screaming "fuck Bush!!", as if he were directly responsible,
Well, that's NYC -- but when I said I agree, I agreed that the GOP and freepers and O'Reilly's and Mitt Romney's will blame the Dems for not approving enough surveillance.
As for the rest of the nation - yes it would undercut Bush's claim to keep people safe, but it would also set back the cause of civil liberties. in my humble opinion.
Have we decoded A-Man's undisclosed location?
Zap Rowsdower, Own3r
I don't think we know for sure, but evidently there's food there.
(It would be irresponsible not to speculate, of course.)
Have we decoded A-Man's undisclosed location?
Barcolounger, Spina.
Well, I do think that just about everybody who flies and has therefore had to remove their shoes, give up their shampoo, and wait in endless lines again and again, ids going to be pretty pissed when they find out that none of that actually made them safer.
blerb |
And how will any of those airport related inconveniences connect to reactions of blowing up a bus or derailing a high speed train?
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$1522.50! Whoo-hoooo!
JP,
We've decided (for insurance purposes) that I'm going to get my license back after seven years.
Cost: $700 Merkin
Zap Rowsdower: Have we decoded A-Man's undisclosed location?
Many thing Spain. I think either Gnashvegas or Miami.
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Since nothing has improved in this Banana Republic, I'm going back to sleep.
Back in the day when aWol enjoyed 93% approval, I was one of those 7% who thought he had done a horrible job. This was even before I found out about the August bin Laden PDB. I guess it makes me one of those haters...
The Nutroots must be the stupidest people in the world.
Bragging how they drove the DLC out if the Democrat party.
Hillary is DLC to the core and Bill was the founder of the DLC
Looks to me the DLC is making a big comeback
The Nutroots favorite "Crazy little Howie Scream"
will be looking for new employment as soon as Hillary is nominated.
Nutroots you have been scammed by Kos and and the stock swindler Armstrong
Hillary will never be My gal
The queen of lobbying.....
Don't worry Bush and Iraqi war lovers
If you liked George, you are going to love Hitlery Clinton.
And lobbyists take heart
You can save some of your hard-earned money and still get your laws passed by Hitlery
I know it cost 200,00 to be a Bush ranger but you can be a Hillraiser for the bargain price of only 100,000.
You will soon be calling her "Lady Dubya"
Here's some juicy gossip - Sarkozy's wife is refusing to attend today's lunch with Commander Stupid.
Keeping herself and kids far away from the Bush nuthouse.
these sorts haven’t a “Tinkers chance in “H” of winning their goals.
Fucking nitwit. It's a tinker's damn. People can't even use the language. He probably stuck his dick in his girlfriend's ear for the first year they had sex.
Love Demonstrated Ministries
Demonstrated to a T.
Have we decoded A-Man's undisclosed location?
Zap Rowsdower, Own3r
I don't think we know for sure, but evidently there's food there.
(It would be irresponsible not to speculate, of course.)
V for Virginia
An image the other day had the name of a well known restaurant in the background in Barcelona.
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And how will any of those airport related inconveniences connect to reactions of blowing up a bus or derailing a high speed train?
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Agent Orange
They will show people that the Busheviks got blindsided, that all their inane airport measures were just window dressing to hide their inability or unwillingness to take effective, expensive, transparent measures like securing cockpits.
Stinky -- I was just going to mention that. Love Demonstrated Ministries is funded with faith-based monies from Abu's DOJ. It's a re-education and torture training camp.
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Zap Rowsdower: Cost: $700 Merkin
Yeah, but you were livin' in a state with an income tax, right?
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May I just say that anyone who thinks Mount Rushmore is terrorist worthy is just wee bit nutsy cuckoo?
I mean, come on, fucking Mount Rushmore? In the middle of fucking South Dakota? It's just some great big heads chiseled out of stone. It's man made. BFD.
Now, Reagan's head was up there, like the conservatives think it should be, then I'd say some national here ought to graffiti the hell out of it.
Have we decoded A-Man's undisclosed location?
It could be he's grilling shrimps on his roof deck. And the tomatoes are from some Amish farmers at the Reading Terminal Market.
Someone tell the troll that no one reads his shit because of killfile.
It must be hard to troll when no one reads you.
Yeah, but you were livin' in a state with an income tax, right?
And better music!
Another 9/11 will not fix the problem. The only thing that will bring this country together again is rejection of those who practice the partisan politics of hate the USA and blame our nation.
And who's doing this? Just listen to the debates and you hear Bush bashing or the war is lost by the dems, then you see the reason that this country is so divided.
Just drop the liberalism, you don't have to drop another bomb!
Someone tell the troll that no one reads his shit because of killfile.
It must be hard to troll when no one reads you.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
Troll? What troll?
He and Lou Barletta, mayor of Hazelton, PA and another celebrity xenophobe, are the pride of Italian-Americans descended directly from a tribe of Native Italian-Americans who have been here since prehistoric times. Speaking English.
A A Fair
I'm a native Hazletonian with an Italian-Amrican brother-in-law. He loves Lou Barletta and complains about the local hispanics who can't speak English. I had to remind him that neither of his parents spoke English either.
It could be he's grilling shrimps on his roof deck. And the tomatoes are from some Amish farmers at the Reading Terminal Market.
So, he's in Baghdad?
Here's some juicy gossip - Sarkozy's wife is refusing to attend today's lunch with Commander Stupid.
She doesn't like corndogs?
Zap Rowsdower: And better music!
Well, fortunately, there's a lot more variety of that than the national media would have you believe.
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They will show people that the Busheviks got blindsided, that all their inane airport measures were just window dressing to hide their inability or unwillingness to take effective, expensive, transparent measures like securing cockpits.
blerb
Maybe in some parallel sensible Universe but not the one we're living in.
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Here's some juicy gossip - Sarkozy's wife is refusing to attend today's lunch with Commander Stupid.
Keeping herself and kids far away from the Bush nuthouse.
Culture of TrÜth (Meow)
Bush is a black hole of stupidity. Get around him and all intelligence is sucked out of you, leaving only a drooling, stammering idiot shell of one's former self.
the weirdo who keeps posting the same rant over and over and over thinks we are nutty.
It could be he's grilling shrimps on his roof deck. And the tomatoes are from some Amish farmers at the Reading Terminal Market.
I've been thinking about his whereabouts, and this is what I think: he has to be somewhere where the time is ahead of ours, because he's been posting at weird hours, and his late nights are earlier than normal.
And those shrimps, they are just too big to be fresh here, aren't they?
And the tomatoes are so pretty.
1/25/04
MR. RUSSERT: You have talked extensively about leadership in your campaign as a former military general, and particularly on the issue of terrorism, this is how the Concord Monitor up here captured some of your comments: “Wesley Clark said the two greatest lies of the last three years are that Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks couldn’t have been prevented and that another attack is inevitable. He said a Clark administration would protect America in the future. `If I’m president of the United States,’ Clark said, `we are not going to have one of these incidents.’” How can you make an ironclad guarantee like that?
GEN. CLARK: I didn’t make a guarantee. What I said is, “We’re going to do a lot better.” What’s happened is this administration did not do everything it could have before 9/11 to prevent the terrorist strikes. And after 9/11, President Bush has taken us into a war that we didn’t have to fight, a war in Iraq, and we were still at threat condition orange over the holiday period because Osama bin Laden still on the loose because we were distracted. We’re going to really put the emphasis on going after Osama bin Laden, strengthening homeland security and making America safe. We’re the strongest nation in the world and we don’t have to live in fear.
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Just sayin'.
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Here's some juicy gossip - Sarkozy's wife is refusing to attend today's lunch with Commander Stupid.
More bat's piss strategy?
In political terms, and even in diplomatic circles, these days you want to go out of your way to be shunned by the White House. Mr Brown, of course, will never say that. Indeed, he is doing a quite brilliant job so far of projecting a studied ambivalence towards the US. Almost daily, his Government sends out conflicting signals. A stray speech by a minister here, the odd remark by someone there suggest that Mr Brown is looking to put distance between himself and Washington — all music to the ears of most British voters.
Then the Prime Minister or some senior member of his Government will insist nothing has changed and that Britain is still America’s biggest fan — to the relief and reassurance of people in Washington and those who still look rather fondly on America.
It looks so carefully orchestrated that one might call it the bat’s piss strategy. It is reminiscent of the marvellous Monty Python sketch from the 1970s that featured literary giants such as Wilde and Shaw pulling the leg of the Prince of Wales.
For those who don’t remember it, a brief plot summary. One of the wits would utter some devastating faux-literary insult such as, “Your Majesty is like a stream of bat’s piss.” One of the others would step in quickly to defuse the potentially treasonous moment, by putting some favourable gloss on the statement: “I, um, I merely meant Your Majesty, that you shine out like a shaft of gold when all around you is darkness.”
Well, the price placard on the tomatoes is in Spanish, with a price that would make sense for Euros. And if it was Mexico, they'd be called "jitomates" and not "tomates" Seems like a no-brainer to me, unless he's posting fake photos.
And the tomatoes are so pretty.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
See my comment above. The name of the restaraunt in Barcelona was above the door behind him in the image the other day.
I'll dig it out for you if you like.
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Has Stu Bykofsky been fired yet?
QuentinCompson
Clark is the man. Brilliant.
Clearly we need to kill still more people until the only one's left agree with us.
It's the only way to be sure.
And in today's news, Gonzo is in Baghdad!!!
I mean, come on, fucking Mount Rushmore? In the middle of fucking South Dakota? It's just some great big heads chiseled out of stone. It's man made. BFD.
Now, Reagan's head was up there, like the conservatives think it should be, then I'd say some national here ought to graffiti the hell out of it.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
careful, now...
Too many apostrophes! ARRRGGGHHH!!
More coffee needed.
Stu Bykofsky
He made that up, right?
Vicky, I agree. He is on or near to my time (Central European Time), judging from the morning posts. Spain,Portugal, Canary Islands, Azores...
Was he in Spain last summer?
The resataunt in Barcelona.
La Vinya del Senyor
http://www.project-me.com/2006/
0...nya_del_se.html
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The only thing that will bring this country together again is rejection of those who practice the partisan politics of hate the USA and blame our nation.
Right, it's not our fault that Saddam didn't have WMD and had nothing to do with 9/11.
And in today's news, Gonzo is in Baghdad!!!
Seems to be the safest refuge for all of our country's scoundrels and criminals.
OK, Barcelona.
i'm not out in the middle of nowhere, but, i can see it from here...
The resataunt in Barcelona.
La Vinya del Senyor
OMG, I just had a saliva explosion. That is some hot food pr0n you got there.
The only thing that will bring this country together again is rejection of those who practice the partisan politics of hate the USA and blame our nation.
When we kill all the insurgents, Iraq will be unified and pacified.
When we kill all the partisans, American bipartisanship will rule from sea to shining sea.
It's simple, really.
Kudos to Atrios on this going viral.
What's shocking to me is that the idea wasn't universally rejected.
As wretched as Fox News is, I expected them at least to ignore this creep. But to lift him up and endorse these views, as Gibson seems to have done, is, in itself, an act of violence.
.The only thing that will bring this country together again is rejection of those who practice the partisan politics of hate the USA and blame our nation.
Actually, he's perfectly right. He's just to dim-witted to see that it's himself he's talking about.
Ah, Spain. what a great place to visit. But the dollar is in serious trouble over there. How is Atrios paying for it>
I'll dig it out for you if you like.
No need, I'm sorry I didn't scroll through the thread.
But it would be about supper time in Spain right now.
Yum yum yum
It could be he's grilling shrimps on his roof deck. And the tomatoes are from some Amish farmers at the Reading Terminal Market.
So, he's in Baghdad?
Zap Rowsdower, Own3r | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 11:38 am
well he didn't want to talk about China, so...
at least last time he visited Barcelona he was discovered by some local el gato negro.
How is Atrios paying for it>
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With the cash Soros gives to A-List bloggers who hate their commenters with a white hot passion of ten thousand blazing suns.
The name on the plate of bread and sausage he posted yesterday was a posh restaurant in Barcelona.
How is Atrios paying for it>
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Soros gave him a raise and a hell of a per diem.
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Spain has legalized teh gay marriage...
How is Atrios paying for it
Soros money.
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i think the nsa has duncan under interrogation for all the subversive posting here in the blue lagoon.
they put all that great food in front of him, but won't let him eat it.
i'd crack under that kind of pressure too.
Agent Orange owes me some of his juice.
Aiiiighty, I should go pack some mo'.
Later today, I'm off to Irvine Park for a wedding (also where Zapette and I wedded). Oldest park in St. Paul.
Later!
Sparkle Plenty owes me some of her...sparkles.
to lift him up and endorse these views, as Gibson seems to have done, is, in itself, an act of violence.
xegar | 08.11.07 - 11:48 am
You say that like it's a bad thing.
Stu Bykofsky
He made that up, right?
Just Another Zero
He sounds like a dick.
Gore Supporters Form California Draft Gore Committee
Organizers Plan to Qualify Al Gore for California Presidential Primary Ballot
The people are empowered to make a change in democracy," said Roy Gayhart, the state's campaign organizer. "A draft effort has not been seen since the 1950s and 1960s with Eisenhower and Goldwater. We believe that if we can successfully organize district-by-district, county-by-county, state-by-state, Al Gore will answer the call and become a candidate for president."
Although former vice president Al Gore has yet to declare his candidacy in the upcoming presidential election, a recent poll indicates broad national support for him amongst Democrats. The recent national Gallup poll shows Gore in a virtual tie with Barack Obama with 18% support from Democrats. In California, a recent field poll shows him in second place with 25% of likely primary voters supporting Gore, compared to Hillary Clinton at 38%, Obama at 19.8% and John Edwards at 15%. In the San Francisco Bay Area Gore was the number one choice.
How is Atrios paying for itM
By flying into the future, he knew to short the market.
Sparkle Plenty owes me some of her...sparkles.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
And they say lefties never agree on anything . . .
He sounds like a dick.
xegar
Ya think?
Bleh. While the rest of you swelter in an August-appropriate manner, we turn our eyes skyward to this endless, chilly gloom. Enough with the friggin' fog already.
Agent Orange owes me some of his juice.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
Thump!
[hits floor]
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Okay, tomorrow should provide entertainment on Meet the Press. I'm so glad the cable guy is coming between noon and three today, my cable is out, and this I gotta see:
Markos M. Vs Harold Ford on Meet the Press tomorrow.
Ha ha ha hahahahahahaha!
I hope Markos socks it to him!
to lift him up and endorse these views, as Gibson seems to have done, is, in itself, an act of violence.
Seems to me statements like this qualify as terrorism. If a leftwing commentator said this, he or she would probably have the DHS on them within a few hours.
Pouring rain here, for the last 6 hours.
Anyone hear of a recent DVD, The Number 25? Did I fuck up in renting at at Redbox for $1?
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OK, I guess it could be worse. And I could always flee to lily-white Walnut creek.
Have a great Saturday.
If you happen to meet a Bush supporter, kick 'em in the balls for me.
Vicki,
I'm glad Markos is on Press the Meat, but this is just to show disunity among Dems. Funny how you'd never see Pammy debating DeLay or Malkin debating Mehlman.
And, Harold Ford is a dickwad.
10 August 2007
Dear Friends and Supporters,
As you may already know, District Court Judge John D. Bates dismissed our civil suit against Vice President Dick Cheney, presidential aide Karl Rove, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby and Richard Armitage . Although we are clearly disappointed in Judge Bates' decision, our legal team at CREW has concluded that there are ample grounds for an appeal. Indeed, even Judge Bates recognized that our claims "pose important questions relating to the propriety of actions undertaken by our highest government officials." We have long understood that the struggle to expose the truth and to hold administration officials accountable for their actions would be long and arduous. Our resolve to move forward by filing an appeal was further strengthened by President Bush's recent demonstration of contempt for our system of justice and the rule of law with his commutation of Scooter Libby's entire 2 ½ year prison sentence.
The stakes for our country are high. We cannot be intimidated and permit those who occupy high office to violate that sacred trust. We cannot allow government officials to retaliate against dissent with systematic campaigns of vilification and character assassination. We will not tolerate officials betraying, for purely political ends, those who have dedicated their lives to protecting national security. If we do, we set a dangerous precedent that will almost certainly lead to future criminal acts and further impunity..
Our demand for the truth and accountability can only be achieved via the courts, and this of course, requires continued financial support. We realize that you have already generously donated to our Legal Support Fund and without you we would not have reached this point. It is our hope that you can assist us once again by visiting our website, http://www.WilsonSupport.org , and making an additional contribution.
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http://
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Let's donate and smash the state.
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Markos M. Vs Harold Ford on Meet the Press tomorrow.
Ha ha ha hahahahahahaha!
I hope Markos socks it to him!
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
For this I will actually have to turn on the teevee.
Pouring rain here, for the last 6 hours.
Marcellina, Yurp denizen
You're in Austria right.
I'll be in Geneva in a couple of weeks for a few days whenever my passport renewal arrives.
How's the weather been?
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Gingrich-Huckabee 2008? [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
Bring it on. The final death knell of the GOP.
Bleh. While the rest of you swelter in an August-appropriate manner, we turn our eyes skyward to this endless, chilly gloom. Enough with the friggin' fog already.
blerb | 08.11.07 - 11:53 am
It was an unseasonably chilly 27 commie degrees here with the remnants of a tropical storm. (which kept Barcelona to 4 goals. That Dos Santos kid from Mexico is quite the find.)
Anyone hear of a recent DVD, The Number 25? Did I fuck up in renting at at Redbox for $1?
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Jeffraham Prestonian
I think it is the Number 23 and it is an interesting little horror film. Worth watching. I give it ***
spinoza,
I agree. If a liberal wrote a column that said, "We really need another 9/11 so the sheeple will see how useless this junta is and how they sold their Constitutional rights for nothing" the wingnuts would go crazy and s/he'd lose hir job.
i agree hecate...
i posted the same thoughts the other day, but in thinking about it some more... i'm thinking it's not so much that timmeh is trying to show disunity within the dems by having them on to debate... the fucked part is that he will actually 'frame it' in that way.
AO,
very comfortable temperatures (light sweater) but it's been changeable. Pack for everything between warm and sunny to rainy and cool. Layering is the key!
No heat waves.
corn on the cob = good
Where in Austria are you, Marcellina, if that is indeed where you live?
but this is just to show disunity among Dems.
You may be right, Hecate. However, he had a killer letter today in the WaPo: How we won mainstream
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Ford, like his fellow Washington insiders, grossly misunderstood the American electorate. He and Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley continue to do so [" Our Chance to Capture the Center," op-ed, Aug. 7]. Convinced that this is fundamentally a conservative nation, Ford demanded that Democrats unceasingly inch toward the right or risk electoral irrelevance. As then-DLC official Ed Kilgore put it in 2005, "If we put a gun to everybody's head in the country and make them pick sides, we're not likely to win." But we who live outside the D.C. bubble -- in all 50 states, in counties blue and red -- were hearing voices at odds with the Washington consensus. People wanted real choices at the ballot box. And given the disastrous rule of the Bush administration, they wanted a Democratic Party that stood tall and pushed back like a true opposition.
The new leadership responded. A concerted grass- and Net-roots effort, bridging online activists and the labor movement, forced Democratic officials to reject any "compromise" with right-wing interests seeking to gut Social Security. Democratic poll numbers rose in the wake of this victory as Bush's fell. Standing strong for a core Democratic program was not only good for our country, it was smart politics.
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Has Stu Bykofsky been fired yet?
Chris Tucker
Hah!
Innsbruck. But I am currently at my boyfriend's apartment in Munich, and will be for the next 2 weeks. Vacation.
DWD: I think it is the Number 23 and it is an interesting little horror film. Worth watching. I give it ***
Cool -- thanks!
It seems I will be reading one of your books in the near future, thanks to a Canuck fan.
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Afternoon, all.
My intertubes have been hating me today.
Have I missed anything irksome since last we spoke?
Still surging
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/
20070...rCTAuJF.SSs0NUE
If there is another 9/11, Giuliani will be there in a Flash Gordon suit standing on the rubble, and screaming for us to bomb Mecca. Bush will be flown to Buttfuck Utah and Cheney will be in his new digs beneath the Naval Observatory launching the invasion of Iran.
Innsbruck. But I am currently at my boyfriend's apartment in Munich, and will be for the next 2 weeks. Vacation.
Marcellina, Yurp denizen
There's a restaraunt right next to the Golden Daschle (sp.) that I visited 2 nights in a row a few years back with a great selection of wines, the owner was great???
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steve simels: Have I missed anything irksome since last we spoke?
Just my adventures at Target this morning, in which I was not pulled over, nor arrested.
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Stu Bykofsky
He made that up, right?
Just Another Zero | 08.11.07 - 11:44 am | #
It still baffles me that a third rate gossip columnist suddenly became a ratwing cause celebre.
I mean seriously. His columns used be about seeing Sen. Man On Dog eating at the Union League, or B-list celebrity X leaving a bad tip at Ruth's Chris.
Innsbruck.
Cool. My mom grew up in Ebensee (in Oberoesterreich) and my dad in Vienna. I've actually only driven through Innsbruck once, though, on the way back from the Dolomites.
If there is another 9/11 it will be the fault of the democratic party, and proof that only George W. Bush and the Republicans can keep us safe.
I'm not sure why but it will. Ask a repug.
Is Ruth's Chris one of the most clumsily named businesses on the planet, or is it just me?
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There are several restaurants there. Maybe you mean the Maria von Burgund? They have excellent capuccinos too.
I'm awake, I'm awake. No need to kill three thousand people, I tell you I'm awake already.
Has Stu Bykofsky been fired yet?
Chris Tucker
Hah!
gimmeabreak | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 12:00 pm | #
Yeah right. Fellow ratwinger Brian Tierney bought the Inky and Daily News last year. He's the one who brought Byko back after his crappy gossip column was dumped.
Uncle Blodge: I'm not sure why but it will. Ask a repug.
And if you want to shit yourself laughing, ask 'em to explain it, in detail.
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Goodness, blerb, what brought your parents to America?
There are several restaurants there. Maybe you mean the Maria von Burgund? They have excellent capuccinos too.
Marcellina, Yurp denizen
My recollection is that it was right next door to the G.D. (to the left when facing it) but I may be wrong.
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Goodness, blerb, what brought your parents to America?
Marcellina, Yurp denizen
Back in the 60's when they emigrated, it really was the land of opportunity. My dad got a faculty position in Chemistry at the University of Maryland. A number of his friends got jobs here, too.
We're also to blame for Chris Matthews.
Yeah, that's the place.
Austrian wines are quite good.
If there is another 9/11, Giuliani will be there in a Flash Gordon suit standing on the rubble, and screaming for us to bomb Mecca. Bush will be flown to Buttfuck Utah and Cheney will be in his new digs beneath the Naval Observatory launching the invasion of Iran.
spinoza | 08.11.07 - 12:02 pm | #
Shit, if there's another 9/11 Darth Cheney will nuke Pakistan. Iran's small potatoes to these lunatics.
"It still baffles me that a third rate gossip columnist suddenly became a ratwing cause celebre."
it would have been a safe bet that Bykofsky would never become famous about anything. He actually wasn't all that annoying, and he wasn't really interesting either.
hey when the train is late and someone left a daily news behind you'll read it.
actually their sports section is good. the rest is fishwrap.
John Gibson's physiognomy suggests a man who feels weak and impotent. his rantings, when emanating from that dishonorable visage, seem false and petulant.
How is it possible that he has such a prominent position in the media and any kind of audience? Do people self-select themselves to watch him because they see something of themselves in him?
Is it a case of like seeking like?
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Is Ruth's Chris one of the most clumsily named businesses on the planet, or is it just me?
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Jeffraham Prestonian
Yes, to the former. Like having just come from the dentist and the novocaine hasn't worn off yet.
Fellow ratwinger Brian Tierney bought the Inky and Daily News last year. He's the one who brought Byko back after his crappy gossip column was dumped.
Barbarism Begins at Home
Thanks I missed that episode. Wasn't the Daily News drifting 'left' before that sale though?
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Afternoon, my fellow patriotic Americans.
Glenn Beck's from Philadelphia, too?Shit!
Shit, if there's another 9/11 Darth Cheney will nuke Pakistan. Iran's small potatoes to these lunatics.
Iran has oil.
Weather is much cooler here.
I FINALLY got my house cleaned up.
I couldn't stand it anymore.
Yes, to the former. Like having just come from the dentist and the novocaine hasn't worn off yet.
Brooklyn Girl, mini tornado
You said a mouthful!
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Iran has oil.
spinoza | 08.11.07 - 12:09 pm | #
True enough. Who fuckin' knows what'll happen, but it won't be good.
"I FINALLY got my house cleaned up.
I couldn't stand it anymore.
Terry C - Wingers R WATBs | 08.11.07 - 12:10 pm | # "
Girding for the final push, here.
We have this nut writing articles on wanting more people harmed in america to unite us and then this morning I saw a piece on MSNBC about teens latest fad...
Going through fast food drive through s and filming each other throwing shakes, food, and drinks back in the faces of the employees at the window...then they put them up on you tube. Some supposedly lace the stuff with chili pepper....
They showed the kids laughing their ass off then driving away. A couple of the kids looked like our gated communities finest.
The people on the show were talking about it possibly being a felony and saying they could get in trouble...
First thing that came to my mind was foulke that...send them to Iraq. A place where the drinks and food they are throwing at people would be considered a gift.
It was the most disgusting thing I've ever seen.
French media on Chimpy-Sarko
Les Bush serviront à leurs hôtes français "un menu de pique-nique traditionnel américain" comprenant hot dogs et hamburgers, a précisé la Maison blanche, qui a souligné que ce sera l'occasion pour le couple Sarkozy de faire connaissance avec la totalité du clan Bush, dont les parents du président, ses jumelles Jenna et Barbara et son frère Jeb, gouverneur de Floride.
"If it is to be, then let it be. It will take another attack on the homeland to quell the chattering of chipmunks and to restore America's righteous rage and singular purpose to prevail."
What an asshole!
You know, his second ex-wife was an aspiring stand up comedian, and a cousin of jailed Mafia boss Joseph "Skinny Joe" Merlino.
Even SHE got tired of Stu.
Those Austrian Alps sure are beautiful, though, when it isn't raining. It's high time we paid themn another visit. We ahve a vague plan, actually to go to Ebensee for Christmans next year. The Gloeckler parade they have there at the beginning of January is somewhat famous, I am given to understand. It's a pretty cool pagan ritual, where all these guys run through the streets at night wearing enormous candle-lit headdresses with bells and pictures of the sun on them.
"I FINALLY got my house cleaned up.
I couldn't stand it anymore.
Terry C - Wingers R WATBs,
I've decided that the pile of papers and other detritus on my table is an ever-changing art installation and therefore cannot be destroyed.
First thing that came to my mind was foulke that...send them to Iraq. A place where the drinks and food they are throwing at people would be considered a gift.
Andy
Or countries in Africa where people are starving to death by the thousands.
Thanks I missed that episode. Wasn't the Daily News drifting 'left' before that sale though?
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Agent Orange | 08.11.07 - 12:09 pm | #
Their editorials always leaned left, but even before the sale, their syndicated columnists usually ran right. They'd run Malkin, Smerconish, Coulter sometimes. Sports section is great, though. The Inky has become pratically unreadable. All of their national/international coverage is wire reports. Crapola!
P O'Neill, no wonder Mme. Sarkozy boycotted. Hot dogs et Hamburgers, vraiment.
"I FINALLY got my house cleaned up.
I couldn't stand it anymore.
Terry C - Wingers R WATBs,
I've decided that the pile of papers and other detritus on my table is an ever-changing art installation and therefore cannot be destroyed.
Brooklyn Girl, mini tornado
I could've lived with it if it was just clutter, but this was filth.
My kitchen floor was getting to the point where you had to plow it.
pour le couple Sarkozy de faire connaissance avec la totalité du clan Bush
So the wife is not boycotting the deal, then? I was starting to like her.
Thanks I missed that episode. Wasn't the Daily News drifting 'left' before that sale though?
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Agent Orange
That paper has pretty much been going right for the last year.
Pretty sickening.
"Going through fast food drive through s and filming each other throwing shakes, food, and drinks back in the faces of the employees at the window...then they put them up on you tube. Some supposedly lace the stuff with chili pepper...."
ah yes - "fire in the hole" I believe that is called.
little fuckers. I hate to sound like an old fart but one of my kids gets brought home after doing something like that and he'd better be behind the cops.
and my students are what's wrong with this country. oy.
P O'Neill, no wonder Mme. Sarkozy boycotted. Hot dogs et Hamburgers, vraiment.
Marcellina, Yurp denizen
One more person who DOESN'T look forward to having a beer with the asshole.
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"That's patriotism, conservative style."
Getting a wood at the prospect of thousands of innocent people being killed is not patriotism.
It's fascism at its worst.
The right has no shame.
woody, not wood
"Going through fast food drive through s and filming each other throwing shakes, food, and drinks back in the faces of the employees at the window...then they put them up on you tube. Some supposedly lace the stuff with chili pepper...."
My kids wouldn't even hang around with people like that.
I'm awake, I'm awake. No need to kill three thousand people, I tell you I'm awake already.
tbone
Exactly
Hamburgers and hotdogs? Jeesh, you'd think they'd at least have a clambake.
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Blerb, I believe every word. Friends of mine have participated in Ebensee's Fasching (Mardi Gras) celebrations, and apparently it's amazing. Everyone drunk, masked, running off with who-knows who. The one night those catholics can really let loose!
I finally figured out who Bykofsky reminds me of - the cranky old farts who used to tell me that my long hair was destroying the country and caused the loss of Vietnam to communism, and who wished for another Vietnam so they could send me there to get killed.
Good morning, all.
I thought this was interesting about the bee die-off: are bees being worked to death
Hamburgers and hotdogs? Jeesh, you'd think they'd at least have a clambake.
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Sparkle Plent
Lobster? Some kind of fucking seafood? Anything but hamburgers and hotdogs?
Unimaginably unimaginative.
I'm awake, I'm awake. No need to kill three thousand people, I tell you I'm awake already.
tbone
You see that's the real problem. Liberals 'forgot' 9/11, so we need another one to straighten them out.
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Terry..you are right about darfur and other places as well.
It was really disturbing..there were about 7 or 8 filmed drive through incidents.
A couple actually had the kids faces shown, one in particular who threw a burger at the attendant was laughing his ass off.
For some reason seeing that really got to me and made me think of how little some value what they have when in other parts of the world, they'd pick the tossed food up out of the dirt and eat it.
Always wondered about the horrible Ruth's Chris name-- brings to mind a group of ladies playing mah jongg and gossiping: "I hear Ruth's Chris opened a restaurant". Anyone know why it's called that?
The Philadelphia Daily News isn't good enough for fishwrap; it's toilet paper for elephants.
I finally figured out who Bykofsky reminds me of - the cranky old farts who used to tell me that my long hair was destroying the country and caused the loss of Vietnam to communism, and who wished for another Vietnam so they could send me there to get killed.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
I figure him for one of these "born again conservatives."
You know, like Michael Medved, who found out that it was more profitable to go to the Dark Side.
Dang, all this reading is making me sheepy. I may have to take a nap!
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My kitchen floor was getting to the point where you had to plow it.
Terry C - Wingers R WATBs
I hear ya. I just went out and bought a new scrub brush and will go on my knees here soon. As you know, it's nice and cool here today and good time to get it done.
Plus it will get my mind off Philly News-mandated death and destruction.
Lobster? Some kind of fucking seafood? Anything but hamburgers and hotdogs?
Unimaginably unimaginative.
V for Virginia
I'll bet it was Bush who insisted. After all he's the Deciderer.
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The Philadelphia Daily News isn't good enough for fishwrap; it's toilet paper for elephants.
A A Fair
When I was growing up, it was always called "The Dirty News."
My ex used to call it "The Daily Snooze."
The point of Bykofsky's argument is to lay the groundwork fro the wingnuts to move seamlessly from "he must be doing something right cause we haven't been hit again" to "we must not play the blame game cause it only helps al Qaeda. Besides, this attack just proves that bin Laden wants a Democrat to win."
Only Bush would go to France and ask for hot dogs and hamburgers.
What a maroon.
I figure him for one of these "born again conservatives."
You know, like Michael Medved, who found out that it was more profitable to go to the Dark Side.
Terry C - Wingers R WATBs
It's the Zionist, Israel First syndrome at work again.
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You see that's the real problem. Liberals 'forgot' 9/11, so we need another one to straighten them out.
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Agent Orange | 08.11.07 - 12:20 pm | #
When you translate their insanity it's more like "The only way we can get away with our criminal shit is when everyone else is scared shitless by terrorists. 3000 dead? As long as it's not me, who gives a shit?"
They're absolutely loony-toons.
.Friends of mine have participated in Ebensee's Fasching
Ahh, yes, Fasching! I actually got to experience that when I was 6. They have a parade for the kids like the day before the grownup event. My grandmother ran a gasthaus there (now run by my aunt), so on the day itself there were enormous crowds of drunken "Fetzen" downstairs. The kids were all hidden in the upper floors of the building and admonished not to come down on pain of death. Of course, we all snuck a peek anyway, in addition to watching the wild festivities out the window. It is quite a memory for me.
"I hear Ruth's Chris opened a restaurant". Anyone know why it's called that?
It seems (vague memory) that it was originally Chris', and a lady named Ruth bought it and didn't want to change the name because it was well-known as being really good.
Something like that.
"Peggy's Sugarfoots"
Bykofsky's predecessor was a mean-spirited sexist prick named Larry Fields.
He died in the early 1990s from a heart attack caused by yo yo dieting.
Even HE would never have wished for a terrorist attack to "straighten America out."
My ex used to call it "The Daily Snooze."
Terry C - Wingers R WATBs
It's mostly for the Sports coverage that people buy it IMHO.
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It's the Zionist, Israel First syndrome at work again.
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Agent Orange
He's not even a religious Jew, IIRC.
My ex used to call it "The Daily Snooze."
Terry C - Wingers R WATBs
It's mostly for the Sports coverage that people buy it IMHO.
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Agent Orange
The only reason the ex bought it.
What sticks in my mind about it:
In the early 1960s, the third page story was all about the Cleopatra filming in Rome....and the Liz and Dick affair.
For a ten year old, that was some pretty heady stuff.
Okay, nap time for Freedom Boy.
bbl
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Well, I'm off. Have a nice evening, moonbats.
"When I was growing up, it was always called "The Dirty News.""
have we ever had a good paper in Philadelphia? some of the alternatives had their moments (anyone remember the drummer?) but the main ones were never really good - least in my lifetime.
the bulletin was bland, the daily news was where action news went to get story ideas, and the journal was worse with a page 7 girl thrown in. made da inkwire number one and what does that say to yuo?
I'll bet it was Bush who insisted. After all he's the Deciderer.
Yeah. Like Brown and the bomber jacket. It's a bullying insult.
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Nuking Cleveland won't help [Mark Steyn]
Stu Bykofsky filed a column this week headlined "To Save America, We Need Another 9/11"
How 'bout Crawford, TX? Would that do any good?
He's not even a religious Jew, IIRC.
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They're the worst kind.
g' nacht!
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the Zionist, Israel First syndrome
They all need to pull up stakes and go live in Israel then.
well Jeff left, but here from Wiki:
In 1976, the by-then thriving restaurant was destroyed in a kitchen fire. Fertel bought a new property a few blocks away on Broad Street and soon opened under a new name, "Ruth’s Chris Steak House", since her original contract with former owner Chris Matulich precluded her from using the name Chris Steak House in a different location.
Stu Bykofsky filed a column this week headlined "To Save America, We Need Another 9/11"
How 'bout Crawford, TX? Would that do any good?
Lime Rickey
Only if both Bush and Cheney are at the pig farm....er, ranch.
Where is our O'Reilley to demand that all the Republican candidates distance themselves from this guy?
Any bookie line yet on how many releases in the "[number]/[number]" franchise?
A concerted grass- and Net-roots effort, bridging online activists and the labor movement, forced Democratic officials to reject any "compromise" with right-wing interests seeking to gut Social Security. Democratic poll numbers rose in the wake of this victory as Bush's fell. Standing strong for a core Democratic program was not only good for our country, it was smart politics.
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Quick, someone tell Pelosi and Reid.
Eggs if you want to make omelettes, and all that, you know.
The Daily News is NOT fishwrap; it covers local and state politics much better than the Inquirer. It's perhaps the last surviving big-city progressive newspaper left, even if they do have a few wingnut columnists. (My wingnut brother calls it the "Daily Pravda.")
Stu? He's a former gossip columnist, for crissake - no one takes him that seriously, he's a professional contrarian who's still railing against the new no-smoking laws in Philly.
And by the way, he happens to be a Democratic committeeman.
the bulletin was bland, the daily news was where action news went to get story ideas, and the journal was worse with a page 7 girl thrown in. made da inkwire number one and what does that say to yuo?
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
I liked the Bulletin.
The Journal was a joke - it reminded me of that rag, the NY Post.
"Ruth’s Chris Steak House", since her original contract with former owner Chris Matulich precluded her from using the name Chris Steak House in a different location.
gimmeabreak
Ahhh, I heard the story wrong, then.
Disclosed location blogging: Mendocino!
And points beyond...
They don't want another 9/11 to wake us up...they want another so we'll go back to sleep, and join them in their dream world.
I've said it before, but I'm less worried about getting killed in a terrorist attack than I am about slipping in a puddle of post-attack wingnut sperm and breaking my neck.
And by the way, he happens to be a Democratic committeeman.
Susie from Philly
He's not serving the people he represents very well, IMHO.
ses jumelles Jenna et Barbara
Binoculars.
"We had to let the country be destroyed in order to save it."
Yeah. Like Brown and the bomber jacket. It's a bullying insult.
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Sparkle Plenty |
I didn't think of it that way but I think you're right. Recall his comments about liberals eating "brie and cheese".
'You surrender monkeys are going to eat what I tell you to eat.'
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The Daily News is NOT fishwrap; it covers local and state politics much better than the Inquirer.
Thanks for the clarification, Susie. That is my perception of the paper as well, although I don't read it daily. When I do read it, though, I thought it seemed well balanced.
i agree with someone's post from above about being 'awake already'...
we're awake to the fact that an open society is sometimes vulnerable to attack.
but, we're also wide fucking awake that the constitution is NOW under attack...
Stu? He's a former gossip columnist, for crissake - no one takes him that seriously,
Someone did.
And by the way, he happens to be a Democratic committeeman.
Susie from Philly
Not terribly reassuring, either.
Memo to all those echoing Bykofsky's call for another 9/11 attack:
USA PATRIOT Act of 2001 - Sections 411-421
"the term `engage in terrorist activity' means, in an individual capacity or as a member of an organization--
`(I) to commit or to incite to commit, under circumstances indicating an intention to cause death or serious bodily injury, a terrorist activity"
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/
...Section411.html
Recall his comments about liberals eating "brie and cheese".
Jeezus, what an embarrassment this bozo is.
"It's perhaps the last surviving big-city progressive newspaper left"
Not sure i agree with this. and if you're talking about the Inquirer now of course they do it better as da inkwire has cut their staff so that they cover nothing particularly well.
"it covers local and state politics much better than the Inquirer."
Which isn't saying much because the Inquirer is geared completely for suburban (read: Republican) readers.
These imbeciles were raised by wolves:
http://pmcarpenter.blogs.com/p_m...sual-
suspe.html
And by the way, he happens to be a Democratic committeeman.
Susie from Philly
Joe Lieberman was a Democratic US Senator and vice presidential candidate. Look what he spun into.
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These imbeciles were raised by wolves:
And THAT'S an insult to wolves, who are intelligent, loyal creatures.
Andy,
Even a million years ago when I was teaching, kids who didn't have to work loved to pick on the kids who worked after school at the fast food places. Thought it was just hilarious to go order a bag of fries and them take it back and say it was cooked wrong, etc. Kids can be really, really cruel.
Joe Lieberman was a Democratic US Senator and vice presidential candidate.
Speaking of the Zionist, Israel First syndrome.
what an embarrassment this bozo is.
Terry C - Wingers R WATBs
I think he does it deliberately. "I'm gonna do something crass and you're gonna pretend to like it, see."
He's a thug.
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PDN can't be all bad - it has Will Bunch.
Fox News' John Gibson went so far as to endorse Bykofsky's thesis on the air: "I think it's going to take a lot of dead people to wake America up."
He of the pathological JEALOUSY towards John Edwards.
PDN can't be all bad - it has Will Bunch.
gimmeabreak |
Political cartoonist Signe Wilkinson too???
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It's the Zionist, Israel First syndrome at work again.
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Agent Orange | 08.11.07 - 12:22 pm | #
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Geez, it's the "help me the kikes are going to get us" syndrome at work again.
They showed the kids laughing their ass off then driving away. A couple of the kids looked like our gated communities finest.
that's exactly where i suspect they came from -- america's upper middle classes. future republicans, all.
fucking little bitches. i really hope someone else gets to them before the police do.
Geez, it's the "help me the kikes are going to get us" syndrome at work again.
rootless2
Being critical of Israel does NOT make one anti-Semitic, sorry.
It's the Zionist, Israel First syndrome at work again.
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Agent Orange | 08.11.07 - 12:22 pm | #
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Geez, it's the "help me the kikes are going to get us" syndrome at work again.
rootless2 |
Explain your comment and I'll respond.
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Being critical of Israel does NOT make one anti-Semitic, sorry.
Terry C - Wingers R WATBs | 08.11.07 - 12:39 pm | #
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I didn't see any criticism of Israel. what I saw was ignorant nativistic "dual loyalty" crap that is a thin smokescreen for anti-semitism.
I think he does it deliberately. "I'm gonna do something crass and you're gonna pretend to like it, see."
He's a thug.
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Sparkle Plenty
I usually deal with someone like that by staring at them.
I say nothing, but the look clearly says "YOU are a total loser!"
I didn't see any criticism of Israel. what I saw was ignorant nativistic "dual loyalty" crap that is a thin smokescreen for anti-semitism.
rootless2
Their loyalty is only to Israel.
There's nothing "dual" about it.
Explain your comment and I'll respond.
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Agent Orange | 08.11.07 - 12:40 pm | #
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Who is the "zionist" in this argument and what's the basis of "israel first"? Without any backing it seems like just the regular anti-jew crap.
chattering of chipmunks
I wish I could get old Stu to call me a chattering chipmunk to my face.
That would be fun.
I didn't see any criticism of Israel. what I saw was ignorant nativistic "dual loyalty" crap that is a thin smokescreen for anti-semitism.
rootless2
I'm capable of distinguishing between religion/ethnicity and politics; how about you?
what I saw was ignorant nativistic "dual loyalty" crap that is a thin smokescreen for anti-semitism.
rootless2
The eye of the beholder, and all that...
Their loyalty is only to Israel.
There's nothing "dual" about it.
Terry C - Wingers R WATBs | 08.11.07 - 12:42 pm | #
And your only basis for that is your bigotry.
And your only basis for that is your bigotry.
rootless2
Oh please.
Oh, then the Daily News my co-worker sometimes gives to me to read on the way home must not be the "progressive" edition. The one I read must be replacing progressive op-ed pieces with chum for Yahoos, like gratuitously ripping a NJ teacher for having a sex-change operation.
And all of the progressive letters to the editor are replaced by regulars and reactionary proles defending things like the police's summary execution of mentally ill persons, and random stop-and-frisk "being a black male in public" tactics to cure the scourge of urban violence.
I can't wait to see the regular progressive edition, which apparently screams "enlightened".
These imbeciles were left in a basket on the side of the road by wolves...
Fixed your typo...
And your only basis for that is your b--
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
I have a little, tiny penis.
Shame!!
No criticism of Israel allowed!
I'm capable of distinguishing between religion/ethnicity and politics; how about you?
V for Virginia
Thank you.
There is much to be admired about Israel. Honestly. There is much that totally mystifies some of us as well. I never condemn out of hand but running over peace activists with bulldozers is always wrong. Not sometimes. Always. Discriminating against people because of who they are is always wrong: not sometimes.
But that is just my perspective, you know?
A A Fair:
You are 100% correct about the Letters To The Editor.
The Daily News seems to print nothing but letters from those loyal to The Regime.
And all of the progressive letters to the editor are replaced by regulars and reactionary proles defending things like the police's summary execution of mentally ill persons, and random stop-and-frisk "being a black male in public" tactics to cure the scourge of urban violence.
I can't wait to see the regular progressive edition, which apparently screams "enlightened".
A A Fair | 08.11.07 - 12:43 pm | #
Once it was bought by ratwinger Tierney, it was all over. Everyone cheered, "Local ownership, yay!", but sometimes you should be careful what you wish for.
multitasking today... anyone want to cheat on duncan while he's undisclosed, i'm on AIM s/n fokowi
I'm capable of distinguishing between religion/ethnicity and politics; how about you?
V for Virginia | 08.11.07 - 12:42 pm | #
Sure. I'm also capable of understanding what a euphemism is for.
""dual loyalty" crap that is a thin smokescreen for anti-semitism."
I grew up in a fundie church. they were big supporters of israel as they were, you know, bog's chosen people.
However - they were all going to hell, as they were not christian and had you know killed christ.
Yes they supported israel and hated jewish people at the same time.
I don't think you can assume support of israel equals support of jewish people or the opposite.
how anyone survives fundie churches is beyond me.
Once it was bought by ratwinger Tierney, it was all over. Everyone cheered, "Local ownership, yay!", but sometimes you should be careful what you wish for.
Barbarism Begins at Home
Brian Tierney: The mouthpiece for the Archdiocese of Philadelphia.
I'm also capable of understanding what a euphemism is for.
Are you capable of finding your ass in a dark room with two hands and a flashlight?
Didn't think so (hint: it's the place your head is up)...
DWD
Hear, Hear.
Shame!!
No criticism of Israel allowed!
Duane V | 08.11.07 - 12:44 pm | #
This is more transparent than the usual use of the trick, because there was no criticism of Israel at all.
Oh, Vicki - you got mail!
""dual loyalty" crap that is a thin smokescreen for anti-semitism."
Bull..............SHIT!
But that is just my perspective...
Nah, it's pretty much mine, too.
And anyone with a brain in their head...
This is more transparent th--
Your concern is noted.
That is all.
But that is just my perspective...
Nah, it's pretty much mine, too.
And anyone with a brain in their head...
dave™©
Agreed.
But that is just my perspective, you know?
DWD - Pain at Eight | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 12:45 pm | #
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I can't stand Israel. It's a disgrace. How's that relevant to anything?
This is more transparent than the usual use of the trick, because there was no criticism of Israel at all.
rootless2
Thank Heavens!
OK, kids - off for the weekly stint at the local humane society shelter.
If you're looking to adopt a cute pussycat (or a dog or a rabbit or a guinea pig) - stop on by!
First thing that came to my mind was foulke that...send them to Iraq. A place where the drinks and food they are throwing at people would be considered a gift.
Where I was a teenager the courts gave kids they considered troublemakers a choice -- jail time or enlist.
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Sure. I'm also capable of understanding what a euphemism is for.
rootless2
Don't be so sure.
I have a little, tiny penis.
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You really meant to say "a little, tiny uncircumcised penis", didn't you?
Give it up, pal. We can see right through your cheap subterfuges.
Didn't think so (hint: it's the place your head is up)...
dave™© | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 12:48 pm | #
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Your cogent argumentation style is truly admirable. Take another nap and maybe you can find the strength to make a sentence.
And in the meantime - it's 1977 on "10@10"!
Now playing: "Strawberry Letter 23"!
Typical wingnut: "I hope Fweddy is just wike Wonnie. I hope he holds me in his big daddy arms and keeps the scawy turrists away. I'm weally weally fwightened. Save me, Big Daddy Fwed."
Where I was a teenager the courts gave kids they considered troublemakers a choice -- jail time or enlist.
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Sparkle Plenty
Now they have gangbangers operating in Iraq.
Your cogent argumentation style is truly admirable.
Like I give a shit what this motherfucker thinks... and I use the term "think" loosely...
Quick, can someone tell me how to do a screen capture w/ Firefox?
Typical wingnut: "I hope Fweddy is just wike Wonnie. I hope he holds me in his big daddy arms and keeps the scawy turrists away. I'm weally weally fwightened. Save me, Big Daddy Fwed."
Lime Rickey
THAT describes their mindset to a "t".
Don't be so sure.
V for Virginia | 08.11.07 - 12:51 pm | #
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Well, I'm always ready to be set right, but when we start with "israel first" and jump right to circumcision, it's kinda obvious what's going on. No?
First thing that came to my mind was foulke that...send them to Iraq. A place where the drinks and food they are throwing at people would be considered a gift.
Where I was a teenager the courts gave kids they considered troublemakers a choice -- jail time or enlist.
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Sparkle Plenty
Now I will engage in generalizations about people:
I'm betting these kids come from fine, upstanding, patriotic, rah-rah-USA families. So they don't need to go to jail. It will be a definite honor for them to be given the opportunity to serve in the uniform of their nation. I'm sure they were just about to enlist, anyway.
Quick, can someone tell me how to do a screen capture w/ Firefox?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
On a PC?
dave ~
Love the photos, especially of your lovely wife, and the lighthouse! (I love lighthouses!)
Thanks for sharing!
Quick, can someone tell me how to do a screen capture w/ Firefox?
Press the Print Screen key. The screen picture is copied to the Clipboard.
Nice capture of the gargoyles on top of the church (or whatever that structure is),too!
Your cogent argumentation style is truly admirable.
So is the way you see anti-Semitism everywhere you look.
On a PC?
On a mac. Trying to screengrab something and wiki and can't get it to work
didn't see any criticism of Israel. what I saw was ignorant nativistic "dual loyalty" crap that is a thin smokescreen for anti-semitism.
rootless2
After my family was compelled to leave their country after WW II and sit in a refugee camp for 4 years before coming to the US and the only one who was born in the US it would be pretty hard to accuse me of being a 'nativist'.
Secondly, among otherwise progressive liberal American Jews there is an apparent bias toward supporting the Iraq invasion contrary to the overall liberal population especially if you look at the early run-up to the war.
The people of only 2 nations Israel and the US supported this war. The support for going to war was populated by American Zionists like Wolfowitz, Perle, Feith and others who have now all washed their hands from this debacle.
Explain Joe Liberman rabid support of the Iraq War in any other terms.
The 'emergency' anti-terrorist funding to Israel (at $30 to $40 billion projected over 10 years) after 9/11 would be reason to support a war that guarantees the likliehood of Muslim terrorists attacks againt Americans.
This war is has been great news for Israel.
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I usually don't get involved in the Israel conversations, because they are often incendiary and can become almost irrational. However, I am curious as to how many of you who seem to consistently find Israel's actions unacceptable are Jewish.
Seriously, I'm curious.
As a Jew myself, I have mixed feelings about Israel. I don't condone militarism or religious zealotry of any kind. But I also find myself getting defensive whenever the anti-Israel screeds appear.
"Quick, can someone tell me how to do a screen capture w/ Firefox?"
Looks like there's no quick about it - you need an extension or a program.
http://lifehacker.com/software/f...p%20-%2049k%20-
This is more transparent than the usual use of the trick, because there was no criticism of Israel at all.
rootless2
Thank Heavens!
Duane V | 08.11.07 - 12:50 pm | #
See Duane, the usual method is to actually sprinkle anti-jew remarks with criticism of Israel, so that you can make an injured remark about how nobody can say anything about Israel without being falsely accused of anti-semitism. But if you forget to put in the criticism of Israel, it makes that whole thing work less well.
Nice capture of the gargoyles on top of the church (or whatever that structure is),too!
Apparently, that building used to be the Masonic Hall and that statue depicts a secret tenet of the Mason beliefs - much to their disapproval!
Would some kind person mind going to wikipedia and doing a grab of the Personal Life section on the entry for Bill Sali, the Repuke Senator from Idaho? I would be much obliged.
Secondly, among otherwise progressive liberal American Jews there is an apparent bias toward supporting the Iraq invasion contrary to the overall liberal population especially if you look at the early run-up to the war.
Where do you get that from? It seems like utter bullshit to me, but I'm ready to be corrected.
The 'emergency' anti-terrorist funding to Israel (at $30 to $40 billion projected over 10 years)....
Agent Orange
Money that could be much better spent here.....health insurance for all Americans, making sure our bridges don't collapse, etc.
dave,
Love this one: im003962.jpg
Damn. Makes me long to live there.
In the Mac OS, use the Command-SHIFT-3 key sequence to save a picture of
the screen. A pict file of the image will be saved to the top level of the
system disk.
Later versions of the Mac OS let you capture rectangular portions of the
screen using Command-SHIFT-4. If you leave the CAPSLOCK on during this key
sequence, you can then just click on a window to capture that window.
Well, I'm always ready to be set right, but when we start with "israel first" and jump right to circumcision, it's kinda obvious what's going on. No?
rootless2
I really, truly do not think so. I don't think people's objection has anything at all to do with anti-semitism. There are too many people who think that Israel's interests and "ours" are one and the same, and not all of them are Jewish.
I'm trying not to get into self-justification here, because I don't think I have to defend myself on this issue. Suffice to say that any criticism I, personally, have of Israel's policies don't have one fucking thing to do with religion or ethnicity. Ditto for people who cannot put the interests of their own country ahead of those of another when it's not in our national interest to do so.
I'd be really disappointed if some of our compatriots here felt differently, and I'd be surprised to find that they do.
The Wapo website is screwed up, but they have a headline about "Bush speechwriter Michael Gerson" being accused of plagiarism. I wonder if that's the same Michael Gerson who currently writes op/eds for the Washington Post?
Where I was a teenager the courts gave kids they considered troublemakers a choice -- jail time or enlist.
That's how my brother ended up in the army after being drunk and crashing into a judge's car. He spent 20 years as an MP. Ironic, eh?
Geezus, what a maroon:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Sali
Hecate-command-shift-4
"Bush speechwriter Michael Gerson" being accused of plagiarism.
So their bullshit isn't even original.
Secondly, among otherwise progressive liberal American Jews there is an apparent bias toward supporting the Iraq invasion contrary to the overall liberal population especially if you look at the early run-up to the war.
Where do you get that from? It seems like utter bullshit to me, but I'm ready to be corrected.
rootless2
That's been a topic described and addressed repeatedly throughout the run-up to the war and it's lingering support.
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Hecate,
http://thumbsnap.com/v/ZWtFG9oE.jpg
"You know, I was having lunch with some guys from NBC, so I said, 'Did you eat yet or what?' And Tom Christie said, 'No, jew?' Not 'Did you?'...jew eat? Jew? You get it? jew eat?"
SteveLG,
Got it! That worked; thanks so much!
Would some kind person mind going to wikipedia and doing a grab of the Personal Life section on the entry for Bill Sali, the Repuke Senator from Idaho? I would be much obliged.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
If all you need is the text, why not just highlight, copy and paste into a Word doc?
You can also use the pull-down menu to "save as" which will put a copy of the page on your desktop.
I'd be really disappointed if some of our compatriots here felt differently, and I'd be surprised to find that they do.
V for Virginia | 08.11.07 - 1:02 pm | #
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Dear V:
As noted above, there was no criticism of Israel just anti-semitic remarks about people who are or are suspected of being Jews.
The GOP = Party of Haters
Sali has consistently voted to support the Iraq War and has opposed all legislation aimed at withdrawing troops from Iraq.
Sali is a member of the House Immigration Reform Caucus and is a staunch critic of the immigration legislation supported by President Bush. "Amnesty does nothing to secure our borders," Sali said.
Sali has been critical of activities in the U.S. Congress that he says infringe on the United States' "Christian heritage", specifically citing the 2006 election of Keith Ellison, the first Muslim member of the U.S. House of Representatives; and the Hindu prayer offered by Rajan Zed in the opening of the U.S. Senate on July 12, 2007.
He has been criticized by some who feels he ignores the fact that the Founding Fathers explicitly forbade religious tests for office in the Constitution.
BLOGGUS,
You rock. Thanks much!
Got it! That worked; thanks so much!
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
My work here is finished, then.
Time to go pretend to work.
I have your screen grab, Hecate -- e-mail it?
That's been a topic described and addressed repeatedly throughout the run-up to the war and it's lingering support.
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Agent Orange | 08.11.07 - 1:04 pm | #
Hello? Try reading what you wrote again because it translates to "I have no idea but I know what the yids are like."
If all you need is the text, why not just highlight, copy and paste into a Word doc?
Want to be able to prove that it existed in its present form.
Brooklyn Girl, mini tornado -- I'm not Jewish, but Richard Silverstein's blog, Tikun Olam-תקון עולם: Make the World a Better Place, helps me a lot when it comes to thinking about Israel.
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As noted above, there was no criticism of Israel just anti-semitic remarks about people who are or are suspected of being Jews.
Where? I haven't seen any anti-semitic remarks.
Hi, my name is Stu (short for Stupid)! And I really have a problem with all the divisiveness in this country, so I'm going to talk about it on Right Wing media, which is the root cause of the divisiveness.
In the Mac OS, use the Command-SHIFT-3 key sequence to save a picture of
the screen. A pict file of the image will be saved to the top level of the
system disk.
I simply cannot keep this in my head, so I have to go to utilities, get Grab, etc. etc. every single time.
Damn! I wanted to be the hero!
why is it that 90% of all wars/conflicts are usually from groups of people who predominately wear religion on their sleeves?
and, why is the christian right so eager to engage in war, embrace everything that this administration pukes out, and generally is condascending to anyone who would question ANY of the batshit fuckwd crazy shit that is going on in this country?
i surfed by some pathetic tv church the other day, and in the arena where he was preaching, the most prominent display hanging around it were gigantic american flags... all the while ranting conservative non religious talking points.
religion my lily white ass...
Sali is a member of the House Immigration Reform Caucus and is a staunch critic of the immigration legislation supported by President Bush. "Amnesty does nothing to secure our borders," Sali said.
Er, shithead?
Your name ends in a "vowel" (like Tancredo's). Where did "your people" come from?
the most prominent display hanging around it were gigantic american flags... all the while ranting conservative non religious talking points.
religion my lily white ass...
fokowi in so dak
The worst haters and bigots wrap themselves in the flag.
Dear V:
As noted above, there was no criticism of Israel just anti-semitic remarks about people who are or are suspected of being Jews.
rootless2
If there was I sure missed it.
I know what the yids are like."
rootless2 |
Through in mockie, heeb, kike and all the rest and you can continue to act so terribly violated.
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The whole sad clusterfuck of Israel, its policies, and their relationship to the issue of anti-semitism is one of the most tragic historic lessons we have that two wrongs never make a right.
Finally...the intertubes accept me again.
Afternoon, all.
Thanks very much to everyone. Sorry to be such a luddite.
,i>Thanks very much to everyone. Sorry to be such a luddite.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Let us know when you're finished with whatever you're up to!
Hi, steve simels
The social climate in this country is ramping up toward an anti-semitic "release event." Many of our (elderly) Jewish neighbors are getting the fuck out of Florida while they can.
Have I missed something?
Thanks very much to everyone. Sorry to be such a luddite.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
I love the little "shutter" sound it makes!
Ciao, all.
"Bush speechwriter Michael Gerson" being accused of plagiarism.
I read something about that started out saying Gerson has been compared to Sorenson for speech-writing eloquence. I couldn't read much more after that.
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Finally...the intertubes accept me again.
Afternoon, all.
steve simels
What have you done to anger the tubes, Steve?
Er, shithead?
Your name ends in a "vowel" (like Tancredo's). Where did "your people" come from?
Terry C - Wingers R WATBs | 08.11.07 - 1:07 pm | #
These guys are so ridiculous. Tancredo saying essentially Mexicans need not apply, and seeing ZERO irony.
It must be blissful being that ignorant.
hecate... never a magic wand around when you need it???
just kiddin'... do NOT put a hex on me.
V for Virginia,
Thank you very much!
Your name ends in a "vowel" (like Tancredo's). Where did "your people" come from?
There are surnames that end in a vowel from practically every ethnic group.
"America's conservative movement is pulling apart like a cheap sweater. What would sew us back together? Another 9/11 attack."
Fried Your Tomatoes.
Just saw this in comments at firedoglake:
Embattled AG Gonzales visits Baghdad
unbelievable!!!
These guys are so ridiculous. Tancredo saying essentially Mexicans need not apply, and seeing ZERO irony.
It must be blissful being that ignorant.
Barbarism Begins at Home
Tancredo is in my "God, I Wanna Slap the Fucking Shit of You" category when it comes to sheer stupidity.
V for Virginia,
Check the homepage.
The whole sad clusterfuck of Israel, its policies, and their relationship to the issue of anti-semitism is one of the most tragic historic lessons we have that two wrongs never make a right.
More like 2,500 wrongs don't make a right.
Oops,
that's "OUT of you"
"America's conservative movement is pulling apart like a cheap sweater. What would sew us back together? Another 9/11 attack."
Sweaters are gay.
Many of our (elderly) Jewish neighbors are getting the fuck out of Florida while they can.
Sophie
Scary. What's going on down there?
Thanks very much to everyone. Sorry to be such a luddite.
You are hardly a luddite.
Have I missed something?
slutty jewish girl
Ha-ha-HA-ha-ha-ha
/feeble impression of Tom Hanks' laugh in "The Money Pit"
Have I missed something?
slutty jewish girl
Just something so desperate for attention it sees anti-Semitism in every post.
Have I missed something?
slutty jewish girl |
Yeah steve, I set off 'rootless 2' hypersensitive anti-semite trip wire by making a comment about American Zionists and Israel first regarding Iraq War support.
So now I'm an anti-Semite 'yid' baiter.
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Your name ends in a "vowel" (like Tancredo's). Where did "your people" come from?
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Sali is a descendant of indigenous Bigfoots-- or Bigfeet, whichever's right.
They shortened the name from Salyeti.
The social climate in this country is ramping up toward an anti-semitic "release event." Many of our (elderly) Jewish neighbors are getting the fuck out of Florida while they can.
Sophie | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 1:10 pm | #
That's utter BS. If any religious group would fear a "release event", whatever the fuck that means, in this country, it would seem to me to be Muslims.
I certainly don't see any widespread anger towards Jews in my little patch of America. I hear, "we should nuke all those damn towelheads" quite a bit though. Just sayin.
I read something about that started out saying Gerson has been compared to Sorenson for speech-writing eloquence. I couldn't read much more after that.
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Comparing Gerson to Sorenson is like comparing Yanni to Beethoven.
"I Think Winning By One Vote Is a WIn" [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
Romney Iowa campaign manager Gentry Collins just really lowered expectations on C-SPAN.
Hey, Chimpy wins by getting less votes than the other candidate.
Many of our (elderly) Jewish neighbors are getting the fuck out of Florida while they can.
Sophie
Can't stand living with the wingers anymore, I gather.
Tancredo is in my "God, I Wanna Slap the Fucking Shit of You" category when it comes to sheer stupidity.
Terry C - Wingers R WATBs
The irony of ironies - Tancredo was the only one to show up for the NAACP debate.
If there was I sure missed it.
V for Virginia | 08.11.07 - 1:08 pm | #
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We start with a suggestion that our buddy Stu is a "born again" and a counter-argument that its just an example of zionism and "israel first". The connection between Stu's moronic remark and Zionism requires either a bizzare unexplainable mental leap, or an easily explainable one. We follow with a totally bullshit claim that American progressive Jews supported the Iraq war, based on data that is "widely discussed" but apparently not available anywhere citable. What do you think is going on?
Your name ends in a "vowel" (like Tancredo's). Where did "your people" come from?
There are surnames that end in a vowel from practically every ethnic group.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
I know - but I meant that his people came from someplace TO America.
Hecate, re: your Sali post at your homepage ~
It's interesting to note that just within the last couple/three weeks, I've been hearing an ad on our local conservative radio stations promoting Glenn Beck's radio show, with Glenn Beck saying that the basis of the constitution is in Christianity, and that our founding fathers expected the US to be a Christian nation.
I find that ironic, and in step with what you're posting about.
There are surnames that end in a vowel from practically every ethnic group.
Especially Smitho and Jonesi.
What do you think is going on?
rootless2
You coming here, trying to stir up shit.
Many of our (elderly) Jewish neighbors are getting the fuck out of Florida while they can.
Sophie
More likely it's the Cubans they're running from.
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Sali is a descendant of indigenous Bigfoots-- or Bigfeet, whichever's right.
Which makes him a native American.
V, I'm not entirely sure what it is. I know when we were living up North we ran into a lot of anti-semitism (the shooting, the things reported by our veteran friend's kids, grafitti, etc.) but I had thought we'd be safer here.
My brother has moved back North and is considering moving to Europe.
when we start with "israel first" and jump right to circumcision, it's kinda obvious what's going on. No?
rootless2
Yes, criticism of Israel. Not necessarily anti - semitism.
'rootless 2' hypersensitive
The poster often lectures the group concerning the latter's shortcomings as relates to being a proper progressive.
Apparently, said group does not measure up to the posters progressive standards by any measure.
Anybody want to go to a comedy club tonight?
My good friend young Jewee Jewish is headlining!!!
What do you think is going on?
rootless2 |
You lost your meds again?
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The Justice Department said that Gonzales arrived in Baghdad on Saturday for his third trip to Iraq to meet with department officials who have been there to help fashion the country's legal system.
"I am pleased to see firsthand ... the progress that the men and women of the Justice Department have made to rebuild Iraq's legal system and law enforcement infrastructure," Gonzales said in a statement released by the department.
His optimistic assessment came despite the frequent sectarian lawlessness and killings in the country.
snip
Gonzales also was an architect of U.S. policy on the treatment of prisoners abroad and author of a 2002 memo saying the president had the right to waive laws and treaties that protect war prisoners.
President Bush has staunchly defended the attorney general
Impeach Gonzo, then Cheney, then Bush!!!
My brother has moved back North and is considering moving to Europe.
Sophie
Not for nothin', Sophie, but I'm a WASP and I think about getting the hell out of here every damn day.
Hey, does anyone know where to get a food sample analyzed?
I've got a bag of store brand sugar, that when I've used it, I find it dissolves, but isn't very sweet at all. I bought a bag of C&H afterwards to see if the lack of taste was me or the store brand sugar. I think I've got a weird Chinese knock-off substance. It looks OK, but is not.
Comparing Gerson to Sorenson is like comparing Yanni to Beethoven.
spinoza
[many, many lols here]
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My good friend young Jewee Jewish is headlining!!!
slutty jewish girl
Myron Cohen was funnier.
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The Justice Department said that Gonzales arrived in Baghdad on Saturday for his third trip to Iraq to meet with department officials who have been there to help fashion the country's legal system.
Hahahahahahahaha
"when we start with "israel first" and jump right to circumcision, it's kinda obvious what's going on. No?"
Ok - but can we criticize circumcision?
The irony of ironies - Tancredo was the only one to show up for the NAACP debate.
gimmeabreak
THAT surprises me.
Doug from Tucson&Montana -- Health Departments do food testing.
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there was no criticism of Israel
True, it was a political criticism of an American politician who seems to think that it is somehow in America's interest to always give Israeli politicians whatever they want or think they need, no matter what its effect on the broader scope of American foreign relations in the Middle East. As such, American policy has been supplanted by the needs of the policy of the Israeli gov't -- in effect, placing Israel First.
just anti-semitic remarks about people who are or are suspected of being Jews.
And now you're reading stuff into it that wasn't there. Interesting that you're the only person on this thread to use the offensive terms kikes and yids. Troll much?
when we start with "israel first" and jump right to circumcision, it's kinda obvious what's going on. No?
rootless2
Yes, criticism of Israel. Not necessarily anti - semitism.
Duane V | 08.11.07 - 1:17 pm |
Un-evidenced claims that American jews or people suspected of being jews have primary loyalty to Israel are not "criticisms of Israel."
hey! i'm not blowed up by a dirty bomb!
You coming here, trying to stir up shit.
Terry C - Wingers R WATBs | 08.11.07 - 1:16 pm | #
That would be my guess.
It has a history of trying to bait people....
later batz.
off to enjoy the day.
"Bush has staunchly defended the attorney general"
Incompetence supporting incompetence.
"I am pleased to see firsthand ... the progress that the men and women of the Justice Department have made to rebuild Iraq's legal system and law enforcement infrastructure," Gonzales said in a statement released by the department.
Now work on our legal system, Gonzo.
It's interesting to note that just within the last couple/three weeks, I've been hearing an ad on our local conservative radio stations promoting Glenn Beck's radio show, with Glenn Beck saying that the basis of the constitution is in Christianity, and that our founding fathers expected the US to be a Christian nation.
Wanna bet any of these have read "The Federalist Papers"?
Rush
Beck
Tancredo
Sali
Wanna bet they have read "Elder of Zion"? Liberal arts education in this country was first pre-empted by church learning and now by NCLB. It's a fucking disgrace.
hey! i'm not blowed up by a dirty bomb!
I thought you were supposed to be radiated?
What ought to be astounding is all to obvious. Conservatives hate America almost as much as they hate the rest of the world.
You coming here, trying to stir up shit.
Terry C - Wingers R WATBs
That would be my guess.
It has a history of trying to bait people....
steve simels |
Oh, a Master Baiter!
Myron Cohen was funnier.
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Agent Orange | 08.11.07 - 1:18 pm | #
The world's foremost monologist.
V, my brother's got a double whammy due to also being gay.
I can keep my head down and muddle through, but things are not as easy for him.
"Yes, criticism of Israel. Not necessarily anti - semitism."
flip that and it's still true. there are many who support israel and miss the days when we didn't let jews into the country club.
hey! i'm not blowed up by a dirty bomb!
That's good. I was afraid you'd had a session behind the TasteeFreeze.
Vicki
It's such an amazingly bald-faced lie, but like so many lies, they figure they'll just keep repeating it over and over. Then, they can play the "Well, some say that America was founded as an anti-Muslim xian theocracy."
"when we start with "israel first" and jump right to circumcision, it's kinda obvious what's going on. No?"
Ok - but can we criticize circumcision?
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
Hey rootless 2 that's the source of my anti-semitism, I'm not a Jew and circumsized. Thanks for your help.
byw Have you called your pharmacist?
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"Bush has staunchly defended the attorney general"
which means fuck all. bet Willie Sutton also defended Bonnie and Clyde.
Doesn't Alan Dershowitz have anything better to do on a Saturday afternoon than goy-bait here under an assumed nym?
So...why did Rudi want his disaster resonse office within walking distance of City Hall?
Giuliani's office had a humidor for cigars and mementos from City Hall, including a fire horn, police hats and fire hats, as well as monogrammed towels in his bathroom. His suite was bulletproofed and he visited it often, even on weekends, bringing his girlfriend Judi Nathan there long before the relationship surfaced. He had his own elevator.
The Wapo website is screwed up, but they have a headline about "Bush speechwriter Michael Gerson" being accused of plagiarism. I wonder if that's the same Michael Gerson who currently writes op/eds for the Washington Post?
yes. there's an article in the atlantic monthly (subsc reqd) that has another former speechwriter pissing and moaning about how gerson is getting all of the credit (and i suspect the greater motivation for the whining) and status/money. since leaving the white house, gerson is now a council on foreign relations fellow (a very sweet appt if you can swing it); a column in the wapo and newsweek; and -- surprise! -- a book coming out in september.
of course, for the life of me, i can't imagine why anyone with any sense or integrity would be fighting over credit for giving voice to the lies propelled by this administraiton. oh wait...
Check this out.
Gen. Lute says a draft is on the table.
master simels -
I picked up a copy of the first Peter Green Splinter Group CD last night.
Outstanding.
It's got a version of Don Nix' Going Down that's half Peter Green and half Jeff Beck.
Interestingly enough, Cozy Powell is the drummer.
Doug
Call the consumer affairs department of your local attorney general.
It's such an amazingly bald-faced lie, but like so many lies, they figure they'll just keep repeating it over and over. Then, they can play the "Well, some say that America was founded as an anti-Muslim xian theocracy."
I'd like to see them read the Constitution (Beck claims he keeps a copy in his coat pocket to refer to at all times), and then I'd like to see them study history. Study the founders. Study Jefferson and Madison. It'd blow them away to know that Jefferson is a deist and a naturist. His idea of democracy is built, in part and in addition to his study of history, from his observations of the way in which nature ebbs and flows in harmony and in chaos.
He had his own elevator.
Jim
Those blue pills?
Wanna bet any of these have read "The Federalist Papers"?
Rush
Beck
Tancredo
Sali
that's easy -- no, too long...wanna bet any of them have actually read the constitution.
there was no criticism of Israel
True, it was a political criticism of an American politician who seems to think that it is somehow in America's interest to always give Israeli politicians whatever they want or think they need, no matter what its effect on the broader scope of American foreign relations in the Middle East.
No it wasn't even that. But since e.g. Lieberman has been actively hostile to some Israeli politicians and since the US government doesn't seem to have a hard time giving Saudi Arabia whatever it wants, even this cleaned up version is weak.
As such, American policy has been supplanted by the needs of the policy of the Israeli gov't -- in effect, placing Israel First.
That's so pathetic. You know when the US favored IRA terrorists for years, offending our best friends in the UK, we never got screeds about dual loyalty of Irish-Americans.
And now you're reading stuff into it that wasn't there. Interesting that you're the only person on this thread to use the offensive terms kikes and yids. Troll much?
Toonscribe | 08.11.07 - 1:20 pm | #
Just like to de-euphemize. I know its nicer to think one is being anti-zionist.
Gen. Lute says a draft is on the table.
watertiger |
As I've said re-instate the draft, start it at age 40 and work your way down. The war will be over in a week.
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THAT surprises me.
Terry C - Wingers R WATBs
Terry - pic of a very loney Tancredo here
Gen. Lute says a draft is on the table.
It's the surest way to end this war.
I'm talking from the standpoint of the masses, not the government.
I figure him for one of these "born again conservatives."
You know, like Michael Medved, who found out that it was more profitable to go to the Dark Side.
Terry C - Wingers R WATBs
It's the Zionist, Israel First syndrome at work again.
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Agent Orange
I see what you are saying: AO's comment is a stretch, unless he knows more about this individual person. The "born-again" comment Terry made is about conservatism, obviously.
Agent Orange: How did you get to that conclusion? I'm kind of curious.
gimmeabreak
Jeffrey Feldman does good work.
Have I missed something?
slutty jewish girl
Nah, it's just ramping up to a total meltdown in 10...9..8...
Did this actually start with the suggestion that Stu said what he said because of a radical zionist agenda? The guy is a nutbag. He said what he said because he is a second-rate loser of a columnist who is desperate for attention.
Gen. Lute says a draft is on the table
Here's a heroic young man who is dying to get on the front lines of terrorism:
And on foreign policy, the area I think this is pattern is the clearest and most important, it takes strength to achieve peace. The great conflicts we faced with fascism and nazism were not won with peace talks or compromise or appeasement. They were won by standing up to evil, calling it by its name and fighting it until victory.
...but his father won't let him drop out of Harvard. Lad's name is Daniel... Krauthammer, Daniel Krauthammer.
The "born-again" comment Terry made is about conservatism, obviously.
It was about conservatism.
Hecate, I've looked carefully at the bag of sugar, and all it claims to be is 'sugar'. Not cane, beet, sucrose, or fructose sugar, just sugar. As easily as it dissolves, it may be something besides sucrose, but still sugar. If I remember right, maltose, and glucose, are not near as sweet as sucrose. I still did not purchase what I wanted. If I want sugar, sucrose is what I like to stir into my coffee.
Jeffrey Feldman does good work.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
He's new to me and I'm glad a followed a link from somewhere and found him!
After today's straw poll, Mitt Romney will be well on his way to securing the GOP nomination. And that means a more secure America under a Romney Administration for the next 4 years. So yes, all in all, it's a good day for America.A bad day for her enemies
"He said what he said because he is a second-rate loser of a columnist who is desperate for attention."
sure - but I bet he believes it as well.
hey! i'm not blowed up by a dirty bomb!
watertiger
So you've got that goin' for ya!
What's going on? I still refuse to turn on the telebision. Everyone in a panic? Hair on fire? Relieved as Rudi! that WPE is in office?
Why does Little Shitz hate animals?
He's new to me and I'm glad a followed a link from somewhere and found him!
He's been around for a while, but since he's a progressive, it's taken a long time for him to gain any traction.
I learned of him via Thom Hartmann during election cycle '04.
Big Fitz is not.
Doug,
It would be worth a call to get it checked out.
...but his father won't let him drop out of Harvard. Lad's name is Daniel... Krauthammer, Daniel Krauthammer.
Jim
That's a shocker!
So yes, all in all, it's a good day for America.A bad day for her enemies
Big Fitz
I'd say a bad day for America. A good day for Winnebagos.
If Rudy were still mayor, no fucking insurgent anti-American tornado would have dared to visit Brooklyn.
A bad day for her enemies
Big Fitz
Osama peed his pants when he heard the Romney Boys are guiding their Winnebago Of Liberty to the Pakistani Borderlands, via Aunt Sallie's Pancakes'n'Pie on Route 1, outside Ottumwa.
byw Have you called your pharmacist?
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Agent Orange | 08.11.07 - 1:21 pm | #
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No but I called your bluff and you have not either come up with a cite or apology. When you claim, in this context, that American progressive Jews supported the Iraq war, you are trying to bolster your slanderous "first loyalty to Israel" claim and generalize it. But since you have no evidence, ...
"The NAACP invited all 9 Republican candidates to the forum, but only one showed up: Tom Tancredo. All the Democratic Presidential hopefuls showed up for their forum."
That DOESN'T surprise me.
Osama: "I sure hope Tagg doesn't join the search team."
That DOESN'T surprise me.
Terry C - Wingers R WATBs
I'm surprised Tancredo, of all the whackjobs on earth, showed up.
"I'm surprised Tancredo, of all the whackjobs on earth, showed up."
I just glanced at his website and I have to agree.
I imagine that if Mitt! is (s)elected, Osama will just give himself up to, say, the Brits or the French. He'd be way too scared to continue living on the run. What if the Mitt! boys caught him and treated him like their family dog?
As I've said re-instate the draft, start it at age 40 and work your way down. The war will be over in a week.
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Agent Orange | 08.11.07 - 1:25 pm | #
If there's a draft, I guarantee the resulting public outcry will make the 60s look like a bake sale.
What if the Mitt! boys caught him and treated him like their family dog?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
"Surrender, dog, or it's.... THE HOSE!"
How'd Krauthhammer have a kid?
I know its nicer to think one is being anti-zionist.
So what are you saying? All Jews are Zionists in your world, and so one cannot criticize Zionism without criticizing Jews?
How'd Krauthhammer have a kid?
Spawned upstream makes the most sense.
Osama will just give himself up to, say, the Brits or the French. He'd be way too scared to continue living on the run. What if the Mitt! boys caught him and treated him like their family dog?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Oh, no doubt! And remarks like "double or triple the size of Gitmo" will be absolute murder on his recruitment efforts!
I seriously doubt a draft will be reinstated, at least for white people. I would not be surprised to see more efforts made to recruit illegal immigrants with the offer of citizenship if they enlist. It will be billed as the price they have to pay.
That DOESN'T surprise me.
Terry C - Wingers R WATBs
I'm surprised Tancredo, of all the whackjobs on earth, showed up.
V for Virginia
His handlers probably told him that it was a good idea.
Did this actually start with the suggestion that Stu said what he said because of a radical zionist agenda? The guy is a nutbag. He said what he said because he is a second-rate loser of a columnist who is desperate for attention.
blerb | 08.11.07 - 1:28 pm | #
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It did, followed by a remark that Stu was like other Israel firster Lieberman and Michael Medved. We then went on to the other guilty jews who have so perverted America's freedom and light foreign policy in the ME. And when I complained, we got the "you can't criticize Israel without being called anti-semitic" dodge.
Later. Time to call Comcast to find out wtf their repairbuddy will be here.
What a colossal waste of time - sitting around the house on a lovely Saturday afternoon, waiting for the cableguy to show up.
Jay Carney invented the internet
lie about Al Gore.
How'd Krauthhammer have a kid?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
DAMN fine question.
No but I called your bluff and you have not either come up with a cite or apology.
No you didn't.
You launched one of your lecturing diatribes based on an interpretation of an innocuous remark as anti-semitic that was not.
Vicki,
Oh, don't get me started on Comcast. Fuckers.
As I've said re-instate the draft, start it at age 40 and work your way down. The war will be over in a week.
Ugggh. My son who's 19, would be prime cannon fodder. Even the gyrines thought he was something when he was still in HS. I don't want to see a draft, my son would one of the first to go.
Are you willing to sponsor him to study in Europe for the duration?
Say at ETH in Zurich? I hear their physics dept is first rate.
BTW, me and my wife will want to see him at least a couple times a year. We are still fond of him. Be prepared to pay for that also.
"I seriously doubt a draft will be reinstated, at least for white people. I would not be surprised to see more efforts made to recruit illegal immigrants with the offer of citizenship if they enlist. It will be billed as the price they have to pay."
I got one for you: Imagine the following story lead.
"today the bush administration announced a massive new program designed to make college affordable for all..."
you can see where this is going. tie enlistment to funding for college and cut aid programs that do not lead to enlistment. not a draft, you see...
This whole thing is making me queasy.
No, wait, that's hunger. I'm gonna go see whether it's true that you can't tuna fish.
l8r, h8rs.
.When you claim, in this context, that American progressive Jews supported the Iraq war
What, you mean every last one of them? Of course not. You can never make such a generalization about individuals. But there are plenty of prominent examples of otherwise very progressive American Jews involved in the political scene who were strong supporters of the war. Tom Lantos comes to mind almost immediately. His remarks in the House debate almost made me puke, given all his other excellent liberal cred.
It did, followed by a remark that Stu was like other Israel firster Lieberman and Michael Medved.
Excuse me, but I did not call Medved an Israel firster.
I didn't even mention that he was a Jew.
He was mentioned in the context that he was once a liberal who decided that it was more profitable to be a conservative.
Go back and read my fucking post before you start shit with me.
Slightly OT --
I saw "Becoming Jane" yesterday.
I am totally in love with Ann Hathaway.
What the fuck is it with hellosuck and the invalid email error?
with the rise of the right wing conservative movement, and having recently been in control of the 3 branches of government, it seems that the mantra that the US is a 'christian nation' is almost a part of the vernacular these days.
try as i may... i can't seem to find any mention of JC anywhere in the declaration of independence, the constitution, and/or the bill of rights.
did i miss something? or?
i did see the word 'creator' mentioned somewhat prominently somewhere...
i guess i should just be glad the wingers have set the country straight, anyway. otherwise, i wouldn't have ever fucking known.
for the record, the internet created fokowi.
I'm surprised Tancredo, of all the whackjobs on earth, showed up.
V for Virginia
His handlers probably told him that it was a good idea.
The only handlers Tancredo could afford are in the restroom of the NY Port Authority Bus Terminal.
steve simels
No you didn't.
You launched one of your lecturing diatribes based on an interpretation of an innocuous remark as anti-semitic that was not.
billy b - west coast blues
It showed up here looking to start shit with everyone.
steve,
Did you see Stardust? I thought it had some great performances but also some big problems.
I am totally in love with Ann Hathaway.
slutty jewish girl
You're outta luck, she's always had the hots for Jethro Beaudine.
"hellosuck and the invalid email error?"
for some reason I read that and thought of JK Rowling.
I don't think they can institute a draft without drafting women as well. And that would never be allowed to happen by the fundies.
It showed up here looking to start shit with everyone.
That's the pattern, TC.
Agent Orange: How did you get to that conclusion? I'm kind of curious.
V for Virginia
My recollection of Bykovsky was reading he was born and raised in what might be called a liberal Democratic family. (Someone here earlier claimed he was some sort of Democratic elected local official???) I don't have the articles in front of me but I think looking at the population of well known liberal writers and pundits that being self identified as Jewish shifts that population toward supporting the war. Joe Lieberman I offered as a perfect example.
There was much discussion in the run-up to the War that it would be good for Israel I believe that's true then and now but not for the commonly stated reason of deposing Hussein. More importantly I think that the war permanently guarantees the threat of terrorist attacks against Americans which helps Israel by maintaining a fear of Muslim terrorists among Americans.
Projected over the 10 years following 9/11 the emergency funding to Israel above the 'normal' aid is looking like $30-$40 billion.
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does that make al gore my godfather?
So what are you saying? All Jews are Zionists in your world, and so one cannot criticize Zionism without criticizing Jews?
Toonscribe | 08.11.07 - 1:35 pm | #
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No. Many Jews are not zionists. Many "zionists" or supporters of the Israeli far right don't even like Jews.
I saw "Becoming Jane" yesterday.
Was it wonderful? I want to see it with my adult daughter. She's a HUGE Austen fan.
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"try as i may... i can't seem to find any mention of JC anywhere in the declaration of independence, the constitution, and/or the bill of rights."
History professor once asked us to look at the back of a dollar bill - specifically the great seal of the united states. he briefly explained why the symbols were chosen for the great seal, then delivered his final remark. "I think if this really was a Christian country as some say you'd see a cross or crucifix on there somewhere."
Tom Lantos comes to mind almost immediately. His remarks in the House debate almost made me puke, given all his other excellent liberal cred.
blerb
I didn't know Tom Lantos was Jewish.
Always good to learn something new, and you learn something new on these threads everyday.
So what are you saying? All Jews are Zionists in your world, and so one cannot criticize Zionism without criticizing Jews?
Toonscribe
Not to put words in anyone's mouth, but this fits with the "self - hating Jew narrative, doesn't it?"
or the record, the internet created fokowi.
fokowi i
I shit you not, but the fundies claim that because the Constitution is dated "In the year of our Lord" the framers wanted us to be a xtian nation. Forget everything else in the document outlining the separation of church of state.
Ugggh. My son who's 19, would be prime cannon fodder. Even the gyrines thought he was something when he was still in HS. I don't want to see a draft, my son would one of the first to go
If they instituted the draft the way I suggest, starting at age 40, your 19 year old son would be safe because the war would be over when the 40 year olds starting getting their basic training orders.
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"My recollection of Bykovsky was reading he was born and raised in what might be called a liberal Democratic family."
somewhere in all this I heard his middle name is debs - after Eugene Victor Debs.
"you'd see a cross or crucifix on there somewhere."
What you see is an image ripe with Masonic symbolism.
I don't think they can institute a draft without drafting women as well. And that would never be allowed to happen by the fundies.
ql-was in NY
Cuz wimmen's job is to be home makin' more cannon fodder.
/wingers
"What you see is an image ripe with Masonic symbolism."
Indeed.
It showed up here looking to start shit with everyone.
Hmmm. I wonder if the poster is SWR.
Reminds me a lot of that one.
America is awake (finally). That's what displeases the fucktard 28 percenters, who long for another national mental breakdown during which a majority will adopt a paranoia that is their permanent zeitgeist.
Ugggh. My son who's 19, would be prime cannon fodder. Even the gyrines thought he was something when he was still in HS. I don't want to see a draft, my son would one of the first to go
My son will be 23 at the end of this month, my daughter will be 26.
I am not agreeable to offering them up for the further enrichment of Dick Cheney.
Hmmm. I wonder if the poster is SWR.
Reminds me a lot of that one.
billy b - west coast blues
It hasn't said that white people need to commit mass suicide, so I don't know.
SWR swears a lot.
My son will be 23 at the end of this month, my daughter will be 26.
I am not agreeable to offering them up for the further enrichment of Dick Cheney.
Well said.
I have a 25 year old daughter and a 17 year old son.
Same thoughts as you.
"Same thoughts as you."
16 and 13 year old sons.
"They're rolling out the guns again, hurroo, hurroo
They're rolling out the guns again, hurroo, hurroo
They're rolling out the guns again,
But they never will take our sons again
No they never will take our sons again
Johnny I'm swearing to you"
I shit you not, but the fundies claim that because the Constitution is dated "In the year of our Lord" the framers wanted us to be a xtian nation. Forget everything else in the document outlining the separation of church of state.
ql-was in NY | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 1:44 pm | #
everything was referred to as the year of our lord back then, only as a reference to a timeframe calendar reference to be put in historical terms.
i think the term 'grasping for straws' would be the term for what xtians usually try to do to advance their ummm, agenda.
the fucktard 28 percenters, who long for another national mental breakdown during which a majority will adopt a paranoia that is their permanent zeitgeist.
stencil
Those who aren't hurrying off to their local enlistment offices, you mean?
ATT'N Bloggers:
LETS MAKE THIS ONE GO VIRAL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4...h?
v=4fGamPqpOXw
GREAT AD!
If someone like Chomsky did to the bible what Jefferson did to make the Jefferson bible, you would have nitwits like Tony Snow and Smerconish calling for hauling his ass to Gitmo. And Jefferson iirc did it while president in the white house.
Broder circa 1803 or so: What Jefferson did to the bible in the white house sullied this community of Sally Quinn and the rest of the cocktail circuit.
If there's is another terrorist attack then Bush may go to Congress and 'regretably' ask for a military draft. Otherwise I'll bet Lutefisk was told to stifle it.
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What the hell is NotJenna wearing?
http://news.yahoo.com/photo/
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What the hell is NotJenna wearing?
P O'Neill
They get their fashion sense from Pickles and Condi.
What the hell is NotJenna wearing?
http://news.yahoo.com/photo/ 0708...r2383472297.jpg
P O'Neill
Either:
(a) One of Babs old Housecoats
OR
(b) Maternity Clothes
My vote is B
"In the year of our Lord"
Anyone who agrees that this is 2007 is going along with that -- it's the whole A.D. thing -- anno domini. Methinks they read too much into a convention.
What the hell is NotJenna wearing?
She learned how to sew from that old Carol Burnett "Gone with the Wind" skit.
Excuse me, but I did not call Medved an Israel firster.
I didn't even mention that he was a Jew.
Right. I'm was not reacting to your post, but to AOs followup:
You know, like Michael Medved, who found out that it was more profitable to go to the Dark Side.
Terry C - Wingers R WATBs
It's the Zionist, Israel First syndrome at work again.
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Agent Orange | 08.11.07 - 12:22 pm | #
They get their fashion sense from Pickles and Condi.
That blue number on Jenna ain't too sporty, either.
(b) Maternity Clothes
attaturk
Oh great, a new generation of inbred fascist parasites on the body politic.
Worst Babs photo angle evah
http://news.yahoo.com/photo/
0708...20ecd8cd9c31120
What the hell is NotJenna wearing?
A doily?
What the hell is NotJenna wearing?
P O'Neill
Poppy looks better than Chimpy does.
"Methinks they read too much into a convention."
well, you know there's a move afoot to change BC and AD to BCE and CE. Not sure it matters all that much except that it might make a fundies head explode.
It hasn't said that white people need to commit mass suicide, so I don't know.
Terry C - Wingers R WATBs | 08.11.07 - 1:47 pm | #
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That's not a bad idea. Probably has worldwide majority support.
It's the Zionist, Israel First syndrome at work again.
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Which isn't antisemitic.
Worst Babs photo angle evah
Sarkozy ready to upchuck
rootless2
Give it fucking rest, will ya?
Lots of the neocons happen to be Jewish. A helluva a lot more of them are not.
I don't know any American Jews who support this war now. No Israeli has to my knowledge gunned down one Iraqi. Most of the criminals involved in running our government are pretend Christians. What the fuck are you guys on about?
I don't like to be catty, but the twins really have no poise. They look and act like 12 y.o.s instead of young ladies in their mid-twenties. You'd think after 8 years in the white house they would learned some class.
Not sure it matters all that much except that it might make a fundies head explode.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
That's always a good reason to do something.
But even as a little Jewish kid in Hebrew school, I thought the CE and BCE thing was kinda stupid. Who were we kidding, y'know?
What the hell is NotJenna wearing?
Looks like some old kitchen curtains Mrs Toonscribe made years ago for our first house after we were married.
It's the Zionist, Israel First syndrome at work again.
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Which isn't antisemitic.
billy b - west coast blues
Exactly.
"It's the Zionist, Israel First syndrome at work again."
Just lying propaganda and innuendo.
I also saw "Stardust," which isn't bad, although I'm pretty much tired of the whole fantasy genre at this point.
And if I never see another superhero movie again I wouldn't necessarily mind, either.
You'd think after 8 years in the white house they would learned some class.
ql-was in NY
Oh please. Look at their role models.
Worldwide embarrassments.
off to the lake to re-arrange my brain cells so that i may be better equipped for next weeks edition of 'more of the same fucking thing in america'.
btw, duncan should have a new post up shortly. his 3 hour absence was probably due to his stint in a local undisclosed clinic where they had to pump his stomach after having eaten those undercooked shrimp... or, whatever the fuck they were.
later, malcontents.
"You'd think after 8 years in the white house they would learned some class."
In THAT white house?
I don't like to be catty, but the twins really have no poise. They look and act like 12 y.o.s instead of young ladies in their mid-twenties. You'd think after 8 years in the white house they would learned some class.
QL- You read the Harlow monkey studies, correct?
I don't like to be catty, but the twins really have no poise. They look and act like 12 y.o.s instead of young ladies in their mid-twenties. You'd think after 8 years in the white house they would learned some class.
ql-was in NY
Chelsea had more poise than they do now when she WAS 13.
You'd think after 8 years in the white house they would learned some class.
ql-was in NY
Not in that White House.
It's the Zionist, Israel First syndrome at work again.
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Agent Orange | 08.11.07 - 12:22 pm | #
rootless2 |
Thanks sometimes people here complain they're being ignored and leave.
You forgot that I was a 'nativist' too.
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If Lute is talking about this publically, it is no accident.
Something's up, and it probably involves Iran...
IMHO.
It's the Zionist, Israel First syndrome at work again.
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Which isn't antisemitic.
billy b - west coast blues | 08.11.07 - 1:57 pm | #
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Really? So calling people traitors because of their ethnic heritage is just harmless fun? BTW, Bykofsky has been convicted of being a Zionist double agent on AO's brilliant deduction and his furrin name. According to Google he had a gay unitarian officiate at his wedding, so I guess he better plead guilty now.
If Lute is talking about this publically, it is no accident.
Something's up, and it probably involves Iran...
IMHO.
steve simels
Only if he doesn't back pedal which is my guess what will happen.
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Off to mow the lawn.
HAve fun.
QL- You read the Harlow monkey studies, correct?
spinoza
No. Never heard of it.
Just lying propZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Inquiring
If Lute is talking about this publically, it is no accident.
That's the first thing he's said since his czardom, isn't it?
that reporter must be French.
So calling people traitors because of their ethnic heritage is just harmless fun?
You DO need to get back on your meds.
No one said that.
Really? So calling people traitors because of their ethnic heritage is just harmless fun?
That's not what was said.
If you interpreted it as such, you are wrong. That's another pattern with you.
Out.
"that reporter must be French."
funny how i could tell what reporter you were talking about.
You'd think after 8 years in the white house they would learned some class.
not with that dna.
So calling people traitors because of their ethnic heritage is just harmless fun?
I didn't see anybody calling anybody a traitor. Accusing people of having a conflict of interest in the positions they advocate is not the same as accusing them of treason.
that reporter must be French.
For the love of god, don't tell Althouse.
If Lute is talking about this publically, it is no accident.
Something's up, and it probably involves Iran...
IMHO.
steve simels
Most probably, though I really doubt they'll even try.
Gravatar"that reporter must be French."
That's someone from the Clinton campaign dammit!
"Otherwise I'll bet Lutefisk was told to stifle it."
"If Lute is talking about this publically, it is no accident."
I found this phrasing below chilling. It reads like a guy trying to get the message out before he is stifled.
"And I can tell you, this has always been an option on the table. But ultimately, this is a policy matter between meeting the demands for the nation's security by one means or another,"
Stuff that keeps tin foil a going concern.
Bykofsky has been convicted of being a Zionist double agent on AO's brilliant deduction and his furrin name
No one's real name on this blog is more foreign, hard to spell and difficult to pronounce than mine.
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Gonna go enjoy some of this nice weather in Prospect Park, where there's an African music festival all day.
Later, gators!
there's a move afoot to change BC and AD to BCE and CE. Not sure it matters
Yep. A lot of the newer Ancient History books I read now follow the BCE/CE convention. It doesn't particularly impress me since what made it the Common Era was a dating system invented by Christian monks. Maybe it's my age, but I just find it easier to think in the BC/AD terms I grew up with.
I always wondered why BC was BC -- before Christ. I think it would have been funny if it had been AC -- ante-Christ.
QL- You read the Harlow monkey studies, correct?
spinoza
No. Never heard of it.
Of course you have. Baby monkeys were left without a mother and nursed by a wired apparatus with a nipple attached. They grew up and were completely fucked up socially. Lack of parenting skills (or in lieu of that, some healthy siblings) makes for totally fucked up adults.
And just how in the hell is stirring up shit in the mideast supposed to *help* Israel? Getting everyone in the neighborhood lobbing bombs around is not exactly in Israel's best interest. Which is why I think the hard sell for this series of wars went from the US right-wing *to* Israel, and not vice-versa.
Worst Babs photo angle evah
Ah, and there's Laura in her favorite white pajamas.
"Bykofsky has been convicted of being a Zionist double agent on AO's brilliant deduction and his furrin name"
ok, beyond wishing Ntodd was here to comment on all this I'm trying to back off and let it blow over. but where this comes from is beyond me.
Bykofsky is just a cranky old fart and is "convicted" of that offense by what he wrote.
Broder circa 1803 or so: What Jefferson did to the bible in the white house sullied this community of Sally Quinn and the rest of the cocktail circuit.
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He came in here and trashed The Bible. And it's not his Bible.
hey, Spinoza, yer right. I did read about that. Just never knew the name. Thanks.
Worst Babs photo angle evah
I can stand seeing the occasional camel to, but I'll pass on seeing "Camel Udder"
"I think it would have been funny if it had been AC -- ante-Christ."
Maybe this would work better for some of them out there.
WFJ
JIS
WFJA
The Waiting for Jesus era, the Jesus Is Here era and currently, the Waiting For Jesus Again era.
BTW, fy or whatever his name is was babbling the other day about Kos being CIA.
Anybody know the derivation of that one?
"I think it would have been funny if it had been AC -- ante-Christ."
I am embarrassed to say I never thought that before.
Poppy looks better than Chimpy does.
Terry C - Wingers R WATBs
Poppy doesn't drink as much as Chimpy does.
WFJ
JIS
WFJA
The Waiting for Jesus era, the Jesus Is Here era and currently, the Waiting For Jesus Again era.
EkCenTriK
I didn't see anybody calling anybody a traitor. Accusing people of having a conflict of interest in the positions they advocate is not the same as accusing them of treason.
blerb | 08.11.07 - 2:03 pm | #
So you say someone involved in setting US foreign policy has first loyalty to a foreign government, aren't you directly asserting treason?
looks like Bar's got the Depends on.
Correction JIS should have been JIH.
"Poppy looks better than Chimpy does."
chimpy makes poppy look better in so many respects.
Hmmm. Sarkozy is pretty hot. I bet he has a nice butt. Most Frenchmen do.
Which is why I think the hard sell for this series of wars went from the US right-wing *to* Israel, and not vice-versa.
Sophie
In the run up to the war public opinion polls worldwide showed majority popular support for the war in only 2 nations, the US and Israel. One thing to consider is the stggering sums of 'emergency' anti-terrorist funding to Israel.
Since I don't have references glued to my forehead which will vex 'rootless 2', I'll leave it at that.
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Well, my new job I think is a bust. It's a small company in Tucson (the name still not to be mentioned, read on to see why) that makes bicycle widgets.
What I've discovered is that the work space is full of xylene fumes. Monday when I show up there again, I'm going to management with MSDS, CDC and NIH data on xylene exposure and their hazards. Also I'll have data on the cost of purchase or renting outside exhausting fume hoods. Since the management of this company are supposed to be crunchy granola bicycle nuts, this will be an interesting social engineering experiment. I think I'll either help them do the right thing or I may be escorted off the property. In which case I'll be exploring the possibility of what to do with them, legally or socially.
(I think it would be easy to embarrass them.)
I still don't know the regs for exposure in AZ. In California, you'd just make a call to Cal-OSHA, and put the ball into their court. In AZ, I'm not sure what the procedures are, or if there are any.
What the hell is NotJenna wearing?
http://news.yahoo.com/photo/ 0708...r2383472297.jpg
P O'Neill | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 1:53 pm |
I can't figure out what either NotJenna or Jenna is wearing, a housecoat cut down to mini size?
chimpy makes poppy look better in so many respects.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
Ain't is the sad, sad truth.
Just read the body language.
(just pic)
hey, Spinoza, yer right. I did read about that. Just never knew the name. Thanks.
Harlow was also a full-blown alcoholic and asshole. He once flew into Boston to give a talk at Harvard. No one met him at the gate, so he went to the nearest bar and missed his scheduled talk. He wandered into the chair's (Boring iirc) the next morning with some vomit on his suit. Boring got some people together and Harlow proceeded to give a brilliant talk.
When some of the female monkeys were adults, he experimented with having males rape them to see if that could make them socially normal.
Akkk. The things one learns in graduate school.
BTW, fy or whatever his name is was babbling the other day about Kos being CIA.
Anybody know the derivation of that one?
slutty jewish girl | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 2:08 pm | #
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Seems to be invented from whole cloth and Kos' Salvadoran background. He was supposedly working for the CIA as a 9 year old.
BTW, fy or whatever his name is was babbling the other day about Kos being CIA.
Anybody know the derivation of that one?
slutty jewish girl
wayne madsen, for one, frequently made that claim.
Just read the body language.
(just pic)
watertiger
Somebody is tired of "the ol' ball & chain"
body language
Laura loathes him.
Cut NotJenna some slack. She just woke up.
"body language
Laura loathes him."
Poppy doesn't seem happy either.
When some of the female monkeys were adults, he experimented with having males rape them to see if that could make them socially normal.
Yep. And people wonder why I drink.
.So you say someone involved in setting US foreign policy has first loyalty to a foreign government, aren't you directly asserting treason?
Treason is the committing of an act of war against your own country, or the deliberate aiding of an enemy of your country in making war on it. Israel is an ally of America, not an enemy, therefore holding Isreal's interests higher than your own country's in participating in the setting US foreign policy may constitute disloyalyty of a sort, but it is definitely not treason. And who can actually look into another's heart and know what their priorities are? I have no doubt that people like Lieberman are convinced that what they want is best for America too. It's just that their conflict of interest distorts their view of things.
Doug from Tucson&Montana
Is that related to Toulene?
I still don't know the regs for exposure in AZ. In California, you'd just make a call to Cal-OSHA, and put the ball into their court. In AZ, I'm not sure what the procedures are, or if there are any.
Doug from Tucson&Montana
Xylene's bad shit. I refer to it as 'brain cancer in a bottle'. Whether or not it is, it tends to keep students from using it.
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So you say someone involved in setting US foreign policy has first loyalty to a foreign government, aren't you directly asserting treason?
rootless2 | 08.11.07 - 2:09 pm | # M.
This guy's beginning to sound an awful lot like that "learned helplessness" troll who used to hang here back in 04. Forget his name -- Ted something?
Chimpy wanted some Mrs Sarko
Q Mr. President, aren't you disappointed that --
PRESIDENT BUSH: Never disappointed, always upbeat. Feeling good, feeling optimistic about life. Thank you. Thank you. Disappointed about what?
Q About Mrs. Sarkozy not coming?
PRESIDENT BUSH: Of course we are. She's a very dynamic woman. She is -- we were looking forward to seeing her, as well as the children. And so we're disappointed she's sick, but we understand. That happens sometimes in life.
Doug-
Xylene is nasty nasty stuff. I think a few of my colleagues passed away way too early because of it. Years ago, histologists and such did a lot of work without hoods and other prophylactic devices.
"Stu Bykofsky would be a great regular guest on Reliable Sources"-Howie Kurtz
Yup, I can totally see why raping an unsocialized female would help to socialize them. Makes purrfect sense.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Never disappointed, always upbeat. Feeling good, feeling optimistic about life. Thank you. Thank you. Disappointed about what?
Whoa. Somebody dipped into the Peruvian marching powder a bit early.
Israel is an ally of America, not an enemy, therefore holding Isreal's interests higher than your own country's in participating in the setting US foreign policy may constitute disloyalyty of a sort, but it is definitely not treason.
Yet somehow, people convicted of spying for Israel get wayyy harsher sentences than those convicted of spying for the US's other ally, Great Britain.
Chimpy tosses a 30-mph fastball to uncouth bloggers
Q Mr. President, what kind of lunch are you going to have?
PRESIDENT BUSH: We're going to give him a hamburger or hot dog, his choice. (Laughter.)
MRS. BUSH: A traditional family lunch --
Q Mustard or catsup?
PRESIDENT BUSH: It's up to him. We got it all laid out in there. He's got some baked beans, if he'd like some baked beans we've got that, as well.
xylene MSDS (one of many to be found)
http://www.americhemsales.com/MS...LS/
0196onnv.htm
Whoa. Somebody dipped into the Peruvian marching powder a bit early.
watertiger |
Damn sea breeze blew it all away!
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And just how in the hell is stirring up shit in the mideast supposed to *help* Israel?
Sophie | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 2:06 pm | #
You have to begin with the Axiom that the Jews, er, the Zionists, exercise a dark diabolical control over US foreign policy, which we all know is totally peaceful except in the ME where the Zionist double agents in the US make us support Israel and attack their enemies like Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.
If you accept this axiom, everything else follows.
Re: Dems having been (being?) bamboozled by double secret intel about possible attacks--if any of them say anything, reveal any of it, they will be flayed by the MCM and the 'Thugs. Investigated and possibly tried for it.
Only Republicans, as outlined on TPM, get to reveal top secret intel with no repercussions. Boehner and now Hoekstra. Earlier Scooter, KKK, Darth Cheney, BushBoy, et al. Scooter gets no jail time. Heh.
(Wow, I am so tired I can barely type--had my radioctive iodine dose for a body scan 10 days ago. Can't believe how it's fucking up my body. Sooooo sleeepy. Also use a human recombinant hormone to achieve the necessary low thyroid levels (hypo), which may create a bit of fatigue. But, after sleeping until 10, I can barely keep my eyes open. Weird. Happened like this after my ablation dose of 100 milleCuries (mCi) last July, but after just 5 mCi for the scan test? Damn. Wish I had a more talkative, informative endo....)
And so we're disappointed she's sick, but we understand. That happens sometimes in life.
P O'Neill
Shyeah, she's "sick" all right.
Forget his name -- Ted something?
steve simels
ted baimonte (sp?)
Yup circular reasoning, constantly changing the goal posts, trying to single out a regular.
Really people, ignore it.
When some of the female monkeys were adults, he experimented with having males rape them to see if that could make them socially normal.
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Male graduate students? The term "rape" seems problematic, although I hear that FOX is greenlighting a pilot of "When Animals Rape".
But what you're really implying is that the monkeys were raped by Jews, aren't you? I won't stop until you say "Uncle!"
Looks like Not-Jenna escaped from the attic.
Yup, I can totally see why raping an unsocialized female would help to socialize them. Makes purrfect sense.
The "All she needs is a good fuck" theory. Up there with eugenics and the bell curve.
I somehow managed to scatch my Eisenhower.
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"The "All she needs is a good fuck" theory."
heard it many times I'm sad to say.
I put up some drafty SHEETZ
"I somehow managed to scatch my Eisenhower."
well don't pick at it it'll get infected.
I didn't see anybody calling anybody a traitor. Accusing people of having a conflict of interest in the positions they advocate is not the same as accusing them of treason.
Steny!!!!
the hard sell for this series of wars went from the US right-wing *to* Israel, and not vice-versa.
You may be correct. I remember something about the same guys who wrote the PNAC document wrote an earlier document for the Israelis -- can't remember what it was called now, maybe something about "Securing Israel's Future" or words to that effect. It was like a first draft of PNAC -- all about the benefits of taking out Saddam and then neutralizing Syria and Iran.
I've seen on several occasions interviews with college Republicans where the cowardly fucker in question says that he'd enlist "if there was another 9-11".
I wonder if those young shitbags are now also praying for another attack. I guess the question is moot, since the yellow creeps would never submit to be becoming cannon fodder under any circumstances.
PRESIDENT BUSH: We're going to give him a hamburger or hot dog, his choice. (Laughter.)
what! no cheeseburger pizza on the menu? that's prolly why madame and the kids stayed away. she didnt want to risk traumatizing them...
blerb | 08.11.07 - 2:14 pm | #
Oh come on. So then the assertion is that, based on ethnic heritage, we can assert that someone is "disloyal". Same principle.
Lieberman's Israeli policy is totally consistent with his other loathsome beliefs and his smarmy fake morality. The accusation that he is really working for Israel at the expense of the US adds nothing positive.
This guy's beginning to sound an awful lot like that "learned helplessness" troll who used to hang here back in 04. Forget his name -- Ted something?
steve simels | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 2:15 pm | #
Golly Steve, just 'cause I don't like the Beatles too much you don't have to go all conspiracy on my ass.
I remember something about the same guys who wrote the PNAC document wrote an earlier document for the Israelis --
http://www.iasps.org/strat1.htm
Participants in the Study Group on "A New Israeli Strategy Toward 2000:"
Richard Perle, American Enterprise Institute, Study Group Leader
James Colbert, Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs
Charles Fairbanks, Jr., Johns Hopkins University/SAIS
Douglas Feith, Feith and Zell Associates
Robert Loewenberg, President, Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies
Jonathan Torop, The Washington Institute for Near East Policy
David Wurmser, Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies
Meyrav Wurmser, Johns Hopkins University
Toonscribe,
The "Clean Break" strategy crafted by the neo - cons, is the one to which you referred earlier.
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