I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Wooo Hoooooo
2!
All the crap that fits, we print.
and now I'll read the link....
and now I'll read the link....
Jim, Collieresque
Why? Media Matters is worse than Pravda and Al Jazeera combined.
i'm certain the list of prevarications is much longer then that!
If it's not Scottish it's CRRRRRAP!
Standards?
WE DON'T NEED NO STINKING STANDARDS!
NYT employs William the Bloody
Kristol claimed the Clintons were jews.
Kos has soured on Obama over in teh Orangeville.
Tralfaz
All of Obama's deficiencies ought to have been readily apparent to anyone who payed attention to his brief tenure in the Senate.
The soul of caution and conventional wisdom, in spite of having probably the safest seat in the Senate.
Peace.
Don't get breast cancer in George Bush's America w/o insurance. I'm just saying.
But Kristol hates the NYT.
I'm so confused!
Freddy, always focused, always ready and always confusing as crap mixed in straw.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
the new building has them confused. elevators have no buttons in NYT square.
Kristol says he can exsanguinate an Arab penguin in 60 seconds.
The spirit of Zappa is alive in the souls of teens in my basement.
Peaches and Regalia.
The soul of caution and conventional wisdom, in spite of having probably the safest seat in the Senate.
True.
The Italian wine you recommended is v. nice.
Bill Kristol has been wrong about everything and somehow he ends up employed by NYT
"I got prom night jitters the first time I laid eyes on you"-Bill Keller to Bill Kristol
The Italian wine you recommended is v. nice.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Glad you like it. I want to go to Sicily some day.
Kristol Meth Persuasion.
Yay, NYT.
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Kristol claims Darwin was an islamofascist.
[from downthread]
For your edification:
List of United States Presidential assassination attempts.
Of course, it's a hobby all the world enjoys.
Repost...
Back in 1982, I got out of the subway station at the corner of Yonge and Bloor in Toronto, only to see a pool of blood about 10 feet in front of exit.
A few minutes before I had arrived, there was a demonstration of Sihks protesting the treatment of their countrymen back in India by the government there. Someone had jumped out of car and shot one of the demonstrators.
One of the commenters on that Kos thread said that Ed Koch predicted that Rudy would quit the campaign soon due to health issues.
Atriots! It’s not too late! You can still subscribe to the NTodd Cause of the Month Club. That’s right, each month a new, worthy cause that NTodd will personally prattle on about, at least until the calendar tells him it’s time to move on. Each subscription gets you at least 5 podcasts per month, along with unlimited access to his self-loving website….. just look at what’s coming up:
Jan 08 – Free Tibet! Yes, watch Todd write letter after letter to the Chinese government. But they can’t read English. Oops!
Feb 08 – Homeless Palestinians. That’s right, they have been homeless for decades, but that won’t stop
our NTodd!
Mar 08 – Starlets who regret their breast enlargements. Watch as NTodd dresses up as a giant Tit and
pickets the office of top LA plastic surgeons. Hilarious!
The list goes on and on….. order today!
Six sticks of Mighty Putty!
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Kristol claimed he and Tony Blankley once had a three-way with Katie O'Beirne.
Ed Koch predicted that Rudy would quit the campaign soon due to health issues.
Tralfaz
He'll find a way to retire on his war chest
The list goes on and on…..
Not unlike General Zod.
For example:
OK, Bonus Critter Blogging is up, and comes courtesy of JohnJS, one of my favorite photographers.
Kristol and Broder
Over and Over
He'll find a way to retire on his whore's chest.
doubled cheesed your pizza.
The list goes on and on….. order today!
General Zod
:yawnemoticon:
The NY Times
Uriah Heep afflicted by the Stockholm syndrome
It my come as a surprise to some reading this missive that I indeed have a cat.
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I know this is the wrong place for this question, but outside the beltway media circle jerk, or the neocon echo chamber, is his opinion given credence anywhere?
Seriously, I can't imagine there are people paying *any* attention to the news who think anything he says is worth even a pinch of shit.
"Six sticks of Mighty Putty!"
Same as silly putty?
A senior official of Benazir Bhutto's Pakistan People's Party (PPP) told TIME late Saturday that the slain former prime minister's 19-year-old son, Bilawal, will likely be named as her political heir and the new party leader on Sunday.
He's 19. He's in school at Oxford and he likes to play cricket. Do you remember what you were doing at 19?...I didn't think so. What are the odds of him seeing 30?
Zod, what are the causes you keep talking about? I've been pretty much consistent on the war and its relationship to social justice, the environment, consumerism, etc.
And again, how will my remaining silent about my actions help, exactly?
Thanks for your help, man.
ah...the quiet before the storm...
The Times is pretty craptastic when you start counting the caving to the right they have done this year
all the crap around the moveon ad
and yet they could not be bothered collecting the money owed them by Rudee I hope the FEC kicks their ass
Zod,
If I were you, I would so not eat anything complicated or chunky tomorrow.
Doug: Same as silly putty?
Stops leaks instantly, and can tow an 18-wheeler!
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"What are the odds of him seeing 30?"
Excellent if he stays in England.
Bilawal, if you get a call from Condi Rice, let it go to voicemail.
judy miller dated pinch and they lived in a house in maryland.
The hype over tonight's Patriots/Giants game is failing to kindle any interest on my part.
Looking forward to going to the Skins/Cowboys game tomorrow, though... hope the weather doesn't suck too bad.
The Times is pretty craptastic when you start counting the caving to the right they have done this year
they've been craptastic since the lead-up to the war. Two words: Judith Miller.
Zod, what are the causes you keep talking about?
NTodd
BIOFUELS MOTHERFUCKER!
ERINPDX!
Candice Olson is redoing a master suite RIGHT THIS MINUTE, on HGTV!
Oooooooooh! PRETTY!
he slain former prime minister's 19-year-old son, Bilawal, will likely be named as her political heir and the new party leader on Sunday.
He's 19. He's in school at Oxford and he likes to play cricket. Do you remember what you were doing at 19?...I didn't think so. What are the odds of him seeing 30?
Goddess guard him.
The thing with Kristol is that I can't stand to see his face. It really creeps me out. His lips stretch across his face in the same way an undertaker attempts to give a corpse a smile, only to get a waxy death grimace.
The lack of guano still disturbs.
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I like Obama.
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It really creeps me out. His lips stretch across his face in the same way an undertaker attempts to give a corpse a smile, only to get a waxy death grimace.
I believe the term is "rictus".
Bill Kristol has been wrong about everything and somehow he ends up employed by NYT
not in spite of getting everything wrong, but because he got everything wrong.
And again, how will my remaining silent about my actions help, exactly?
Are you two still having this argument?
Jeepers.
they've been craptastic since the lead-up to the war. Two words: Judith Miller.
watertiger
Two more: Patrick Healy
Stupid question but I'm tired: Congressional candidates don't do matching funds, right? I wanna send Darcy Burner some money and I wanna use ActBlue
bye for now
Looking forward to going to the Skins/Cowboys game tomorrow, though... hope the weather doesn't suck too bad.
SteveLG
You're going? Fed-Ex should be rockin' tomorrow.
SPORRRRRRRRRK!
Zod doesn't do "complicated"...
What's with all these fake titles?
back for a breather. just had a bit of a tantrum. anyone wanna babysit so i can take a walk?
why is it so hard doing something i love?
Are you two still having this argument?
Jeepers.
It's like arguing with Econ102.
no public funds for Congressional candidates so no matching funds
Act Blue no problem
Seriously (and I mean that I really am being serious):
What has Bill Kristol ever been right about?
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Are you two still having this argument?
Jeepers.
It's like arguing with the stupidest fucking brick wall on the fucking planet.
watertiger
Fixed your typo.
I believe the term is "rictus".
Considering nothing but bullshit flows from his mouth, we should consider it a rectus.
You're going? Fed-Ex should be rockin' tomorrow.
MP
In all my years in Washington, I've never been to a professional sporting event that had playoff consequences, until now.
Tomorrow should be a good one.
Ninety thousand screaming lunatics!
this is all about Manhattan realestate; it has nothing to do with Kristonacht's actual writing.
back for a breather. just had a bit of a tantrum. anyone wanna babysit so i can take a walk?
why is it so hard doing something i love?
whiskey girl
It's all right, Little Gurl. U go take walk. Littler gurls are just too excited by things.
I like Obama.
I'm liking him less and less. Sounding like the Donna Brazile candidate these days. I guess I'd still vote for him if Hill dropped out, on the grounds that there is inherent value in having an African American candidate, but nothing he says excites me. I'm liking Edwards' message more and more.
why is it so hard doing something i love?
whiskey girl
Cause you love them. They get to you. Wouldn't have it any other way.
Seriously (and I mean that I really am being serious):
What has Bill Kristol ever been right about?
spork_incident
(1)
(2)
I got nothin'.
watertiger sez:
SPORRRRRRRRRK!
You, Madam, have me at a disadvantage.
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except in that, he's got an even higher status platform to catapault his propaganda.
no public funds for Congressional candidates so no matching funds
Act Blue no problem
Liars for Bush
thought so, thanks
Why does my schedule say the game tonight is on both NBC and CBS...?!
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Are you two still having this argument?
"Again."
It's all right, Little Gurl. U go take walk. Littler gurls are just too excited by things.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian
Thanks Auntie.
It's been so nice this week, just enjoying each other. But now we're on day 7 of constantly together and I need a break.
Look at this this way. A column for someone in the Whig Party must just be around the corner.
I'm liking Edwards' message more and more.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
yup
Looking forward to going to the Skins/Cowboys game tomorrow, though... hope the weather doesn't suck too bad.
SteveLG | 12.29.07 - 7:25 pm | #
I hope the weather does suck bad.
It's better for us.
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I believe the term is "rictus".
watertiger |
As in "rictus pickles"?
LEFT BELOW!
"Comment by General Zod blocked. [unkill][show comment]
Not missing much, I'm sure."
Goes without saying!
Cause you love them. They get to you. Wouldn't have it any other way.
Supreme Emperor of the Univers
yes. that's right.
Looking forward to going to the Skins/Cowboys game tomorrow, though... hope the weather doesn't suck too bad.
Maybe bring a warm thermos of onion soup with you to the game.
Seriously (and I mean that I really am being serious):
What has Bill Kristol ever been right about?
spork_incident
That John McCain would be a less bad prezdinent that George W Bush. He would put it that way. Nor, I'm willing to bet, would Bill Keller. Which may be the point.
well if you cannot stop the war in eyerack
bringing football to the masses is the next best thing
"But lawmakers have pressured the NFL to ensure more viewers could see the game. Last week, two prominent members of the Senate Judiciary Committee sent a letter to Goodell threatening to reconsider the league's antitrust exemption.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
Why does my schedule say the game tonight is on both NBC and CBS...?!
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
Because it is.
Why does my schedule say the game tonight is on both NBC and CBS...?!
It's also on the ABC affiliate in Boston. More coverage than the State of the Union.
As in "rictus pickles"?
I thought it was Xanax.
t lawmakers have pressured the NFL to ensure more viewers could see the game. Last week, two prominent members of the Senate Judiciary Committee sent a letter to Goodell threatening to reconsider the league's antitrust exemption.
watertiger? May I, perhaps, borrow your desk for just a moment?
I hope the weather does suck bad.
It's better for us.
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ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®©
I dunno... Collins had a rough time in the nasty shit at The Meadowlands, even though they came out on top.
The Redskins are playing better football right now, so I'd rather see the weather not be a factor.
Not to mention the fact that my guest and I would prefer not to be wet, cold and miserable.
Wow, I guess that Congressional oversight makes someone sweat... who knew it was the NFL?!
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Zod doesn't do "complicated"...
He's not the only one.
What has Bill Kristol ever been right about?
spork_incident
You're holding him to the wrong standard. The point isn't to be right, it's to say what benefits the powerful, confidently, under conditions that a normal human being's conscience couldn't bear.
It's his shamelessness that makes him useful, not his intelligence.
I believe the term is "rictus".
watertiger
Now there's a fun word. However, "gaping" is not what I was thinking of.
When my 90-year-old grandfather was laid out for the viewing, you could see the shape of his skull. His closed liver-colored lips were stretched wide across his face.
A mother held her little girl over the casket, "See? He's smiling because he's in heaven now!"
The little girl instead looked in horror because what she saw was an emaciated corpse with wax and make-up on his face.
My dead grandfather had the good grace not to start speaking on that day. I don't know what Kristol's problem is.
Treasury Secretary, Henry Paulson, proposed a “freeze” on a limited number of adjustable rate mortgages. On the surface, the idea of saving families from foreclosure sounds appealing. However, it also prevents the owners of the mortgage-backed securities, many of them foreign, from suing the issuers of these securities to buy them back at face value.
In addition, foreclosures are being stymied in Ohio by the courts, since creditors of mortgage-backed investment pools may not have clear title to the homes being foreclosed. Chalk another one up for Wall Street securitized mortgages.http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/
editorials/cherniawski/2007/1229.html
DONT SUE ME BRO!
Brad Johnson is gonna see lots of time tomorrow.
You're holding him to the wrong standard. The point isn't to be right, it's to say what benefits the powerful, confidently, under conditions that a normal human being's conscience couldn't bear.
Phila
Fuck.
That.
Noise.
And I mean that in the nicest possible way.
Maybe bring a warm thermos of onion soup with you to the game.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 12.29.07 - 7:31 pm | # [kill]
We're making greens in a garlic broth tonight. Mustard greens and collards, I'm thinking.
Bill Kristol makes me think of Dan Quayle. Who makes me think of Marilyn Quayle. Who makes me think of Mr. Ed.
Note to the NYT: I don't want to think about Mr. Ed.
I walk by the new New York Times bldg every day.
You want I should piss on their trees or something?
Oh, they have trees in the middle of their building now. It's way cool.
Brad Johnson is gonna see lots of time tomorrow.
bill
As a Redskins fan, that's my greatest fear.
Seriously.
Last week, two prominent members of the Senate Judiciary Committee sent a letter to Goodell threatening to reconsider the league's antitrust exemption.
Is it good that I still retain a capacity for disbelief about stuff like this?
You're holding him to the wrong standard. The point isn't to be right, it's to say what benefits the powerful, confidently, under conditions that a normal human being's conscience couldn't bear.
It's his shamelessness that makes him useful, not his intelligence.
AMEN!
Kristolnacht isnt about being RIGHT; he's about saying the RIGHT things.
It's his shamelessness that makes him useful, not his intelligence.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint
I couldn't agree more, but for me the smug factor weighs heavily as well
Pat Sajak and Vanna White on now.
and people hate on gay couples.
Note to the NYT: I don't want to think about Mr. Ed.
Rox |
Whoa ho ho Wilbur, we're in trouble now.
'evening, friends.
Oh, how the mighty has fallen.
What happened to the NYT and the WaPo these last 35 years?
But now we're on day 7 of constantly together and I need a break.
whiskey girl
Of course. U buy babysitter for to-morrow?
Well, certainly, I want no beer, tonight.
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Bill Kristol makes me think of Dan Quayle. Who makes me think of Marilyn Quayle. Who makes me think of Mr. Ed.
Note to the NYT: I don't want to think about Mr. Ed.
Roxanne wins.
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And I mean that in the nicest possible way.
jac | 12.29.07 - 7:35 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
So what's your interpretation? You think he's a well-meaning guy who just happens to keep getting things wrong?
Seriously.
SteveLG
I'm with you. We're on a mission from God. Fuck em all.
3-3
that's an actual football score?
greens in a garlic broth tonight. Mustard greens and collards, I'm thinking.
I can be there by morning.
okay. break over.
off to brush some teeth and read some bedtime books...
Last week, two prominent members of the Senate Judiciary Committee sent a letter to Goodell threatening to reconsider the league's antitrust exemption.
Thankfully this takes the most important issue ever off the table in 2008.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator -- I like Edwards, too. They come at their progressivism from such interestingly different directions: Obama the grassroots community organizer with all the tactical subversion that necessarily entails; and Edwards the trial lawyer with compelling adversarial skills.
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Brad Johnson is gonna see lots of time tomorrow.
bill | 12.29.07 - 7:34 pm | #
Agreed...and that also makes me hope for bad weather (surry, Steve!).
We handle it better, and Brad Johnson can pick any defense apart if he's given time.
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I like Obama.
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Sparkle Plenty
me too. i feel subversive saying that here.
It's his shamelessness that makes him useful, not his intelligence.
But does he sleep at night?
I hope not.
the new building has them confused. elevators have no buttons in NYT square.
yeah.
freaked me out.
Peace.
Don't get breast cancer in George Bush's America w/o insurance. I'm just saying.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Sounds bad.
I walk by the new New York Times bldg every day.
You want I should piss on their trees or something?
I could teach you how to throw the evil eye.
Re: Hiring Kristol
"I think the conservatives will now think that the NYT is now fair and balanced just like FOXNews. That's what I think!"
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But does he sleep at night?
I hope not.
pie | Homepage | 12.29.07 - 7:38 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
I'm sure he sleeps better than I do, and worries less overall. But I'd still rather be me than him.
Hecate:
Any PERSONAL reason for saying that?
And I hope NOT.
"I could teach you how to throw the evil eye."
Is that advisable. it might get dirty or worse, stepped on.
We handle it better, and Brad Johnson can pick any defense apart if he's given time.
The defense will have to extend him a personal welcome back to DC, if you know what I mean.
I can be there by morning.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 12.29.07 - 7:37 pm | # [kill]
We'll leave the light on for ya!
I could teach you how to throw the evil eye.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Hecate, don't. You know better.
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I could teach you how to throw the evil eye.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
*ducks*
I like Obama.
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Sparkle Plenty
me too. i feel subversive saying that here.
You like him. Hurray!
I'm sure he sleeps better than I do, and worries less overall. But I'd still rather be me than him.
I'd rather be John Travolta.
Sounds bad.
Yeah, I got a dear friend who, like a dummy, quit her job to stay home w/ her Alzheimers mom and now has two tumors. No way to get mom placed, no way to pay for her surgery, no way to get five minutes to think her way out of her problem. Convention of witches on Monday to figure out what to try and do. Sucks to be an American.
But now we're on day 7 of constantly together and I need a break.
whiskey girl
I was feeling that same way about my pets earlier today.
I see Rock Cartwright taking one to the house tomorrow.
So what's your interpretation? You think he's a well-meaning guy who just happens to keep getting things wrong?
Phila
No, I think you're right. And I think it's fucking despicable.
There's a special place in Hell reserved for fucktards like Bill Kristol. And I say that as an agnostic.
What happened to the NYT and the WaPo these last 35 years?
Terry C, Democratic Bitch
I haven't read it yet, but I understand that The Record of the Paper: How the New York Times Misreports US Foreign Policy is worth looking into.
The defense will have to extend him a personal welcome back to DC, if you know what I mean.
MP
Skins are in a good place as a team.
I'm sure he sleeps better than I do, and worries less overall.
That would mean he has no conscience.
That would be very troubling, if I were reading his tripe in the New York Times.
Don't forget the American Cancer society they are a great resource for the uninsured.
Shall I rent out my house for the Super Bowl? Do I dare?
Arthur and I would have to hole up somewhere. Still, the money is said to be very good....
I like Obama but he has the same useless advisors that Gore and Kerry had telling him to run to the right because America ain't liberal. If Gore's advisors had hung around with him after 2000 I doubt he would have won either an Oscar or a Nobel - they would have told him the subject was too divisive and/or too arcane.
Maybe mAnn Coulter was right about blowing up the NYT building.
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I'd rather be John Travolta.
NTodd
That's only because you'd be shtupping Kelly Preston.
Skins are in a good place as a team.
bill
Who would have imagined that, three weeks ago?
Sucks to be an American.
It makes me tear up just to read that post.
I was feeling that same way about my pets earlier today.
virgotex
virgotex! How are you and the Lizard?
What happened to the NYT and the WaPo these last 35 years?
In the case of the WaPo, Ben Bradley married that nitwit.
Shall I rent out my house for the Super Bowl? Do I dare?
Arthur and I would have to hole up somewhere. Still, the money is said to be very good...
I've heard of folks making a boatload doing this for Olympics, etc. I think the trick is to use a good agent and write a contract that covers all damages.
Anybody talked to Eli tonight? Could be interesting.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian
get a big damage and cleaning deposit
NTodd sez:
I'd rather be John Travolta.
A white suit wouldn't become you.
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That's only because you'd be shtupping Kelly Preston.
I am nothing if not transparent about my intentions at all times.
Re: Evil Eye (Malocchio)
"Today Italian men still hold their genitals to ward off the evil eye..."
And the secret handshake?
I hopehopehope Krugman calls Kristol out for his bullshit, like he did Brooks when Bobo wrote that nonsense about Reagan recently.
Anybody talked to Eli tonight? Could be interesting.
bill
Manning?
He's in for a long night. Or a short one.
I am nothing if not transparent about my intentions at all times.
NTodd
heh.
Hecate, that's heartbreaking. About all I can think of at the moment is to suggest she contact the local chapter of the American Cancer Society to see if they can put her in touch with the right social worker.
I just don't see Obama running to the right. I don't really understand when people say that.
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Speaking of these shameless types, I decided to start doing a compilation of climate-denialist lies once a week, instead of posting on 'em as they come. And although I've been reading this kind of shit since the early nineties at least, I'm still shocked that someone like Bjorn Lomborg can avoid throwing himself under a bus.
What a thing to be lying about. Even if he didn't care about the moral side of the issue, I'd think he'd at least be embarrassed, what with everyone always pointing out his elementary mistakes....
I'm sure there's some agency in town who is doing this sort of thing.... I'll bet renato knows.
With LaRon Landry getting better with each game, the Taylor/Landry safety duo would have been the best the NFL had ever seen.
That's only because you'd be shtupping Kelly Preston.
There's that, too.
Presumably, she's free of Thetans.
That's a plus.
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I just don't see Obama running to the right. I don't really understand when people say that.
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Sparkle Plenty
Not to the right, I'd say, but straight down that imaginary yellow line in the center of the road.
Where you see all the other road kill.
well as everyone knows i rent my house out all summer for horse racing season and it usually works out fine.
meet the people in advance if you're nervous, get a security deposit, etc.
Shall I rent out my house for the Super Bowl? Do I dare?
Arthur and I would have to hole up somewhere. Still, the money is said to be very good....
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian
One word: Plastic.
Well, two words: Plastic covers.
Okay, four words: Plastic covers on everything.
virgotex! How are you and the Lizard?
I stopped taking it about six months ago- I had plateaued on it, no more loss, and plus my insurance won't pay for it since it was off-list (ie, the doc prescribed it for other than it's regular use).
So, I've been lizardless for a bit now. Just doing stuff the oldfashioned way- walking and exercise bike, less calories, etc.
how 'bout you?
I'd rather be John Travolta.
NTodd, Now 80lbs Heavier
You wanna be a Scientologist????
If Gore's advisors had hung around with him after 2000 I doubt he would have won either an Oscar or a Nobel - they would have told him the subject was too divisive and/or too arcane.
George Johnston
You are exactly right. And the fact that Our Al knew enough to rely on his own self should be the model for the rest. It isn't, but it should be.
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"Today Italian men still hold their genitals to ward off the evil eye..."
Some of 'em do it when hearses go by, too.
Presumably, she's free of Thetans.
Trust but verify.
Taylor/Landry safety duo would have been the best the NFL had ever seen.
MP
Yes. I think I'm still sort of in denial about Taylor's death, somehow. Strange.
Eli will complete many passes tonight.
sadly most of them will be to the Patriots.
Okay, four words: Plastic covers on everything.
Uncle Smokes |
And photographs.
What happened to the NYT and the WaPo these last 35 years?
Terry C, Democratic Bitch | 12.29.07 - 7:36 pm | #
NYT: Billionaire heir Pinch Sulzberger inherited the franchise, discovers he and Richard Mellon-Scaife have the same interests.
WaPo: Billionaire heir Donald Graham inherited the franchise, discovers he and Richard Mellon-Scaife have the same interests.
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No, I meant this Eli
http://multi-medium.net/
That's only because you'd be shtupping Kelly Preston.
and able to land your plane in your garage
just don't see Obama running to the right. I don't really understand when people say that.
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Sparkle Plenty
Pandering to fundies and gay bashers. Being right about the war when it counted but now equivocating about permanent bases in Iraq.
oy. the guests have arrived.
i must go be sociable like now.
Okay, four words: Plastic covers on everything.
Condoms?
Yes. I think I'm still sort of in denial about Taylor's death, somehow. Strange.
SteveLG
Taylor led the NFL in picks when he was killed. I didn't even know that, at the time.
Yeah, I got a dear friend who, like a dummy, quit her job to stay home w/ her Alzheimers mom and now has two tumors. No way to get mom placed, no way to pay for her surgery, no way to get five minutes to think her way out of her problem. Convention of witches on Monday to figure out what to try and do. Sucks to be an American.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Plenty of money for wars, none for Americans' health care.
Yes, it does suck to be an American.
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ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© | Homepage | 12.29.07 - 7:48 pm
That's it.
I'd rather be Rick Springfield.
Presumably, she's free of Thetans.
Trust but verify.
Reagan is schtupping Kelly Preston now?
Will wonders never cease.
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Yes. I think I'm still sort of in denial about Taylor's death, somehow. Strange.
Everyone should be in denial about something
Looking forward to going to the Skins/Cowboys game tomorrow, though... hope the weather doesn't suck too bad.
SteveLG
I'll be at the Bucs-Panthers game tomorrow in Tampa, but it's really just a tune-up for our playoff game next weekend against the Giants.
You are exactly right. And the fact that Our Al knew enough to rely on his own self should be the model for the rest. It isn't, but it should be.
What GWPDA said.
What the MSM say is another matter.
Donald Graham inherited the franchise, discovers he and Richard Mellon-Scaife have the same interests.
Katie should have drowned him at birth.
The New York Times is hiring someone that I don't like.
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!
Hecate, I'm not sure it will help, but I shall light a candle for your friend and think positively for her.
Taylor/Landry safety duo would have been the best the NFL had ever seen.
MP
I recall being pissed when they drafted Landry. Now, not so much
Being right about the war when it counted but now equivocating about permanent bases in Iraq.
George Johnston
Having seen Obama in action the last three years I am sure certain had he been in the Senate in 2002 he'd have lined up with all the other ambitious Democrats (Edwards and Clinton especially) in supporting the Iraq War authorization.
Certain.
Y'know, I agree there are a lot of shitting Dem advisers, but Al and others make their choices about who to listen to . . .
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how 'bout you?
virgotex
Doing well. Actually have done a Mendoza, increasing by one half the dose, and seem to be responding. Shocked to discover that the new insurance is happy enough to accept the prescription. Miraculously - all the various things that were affected by increased blood sugar have come under control - eyes, healing, everything. I think that what is being shown is its efficacy in pre-fullblown diabetes. I think what it does is pull us back from the brink.
Duncan Black | 12.29.07 - 7:50 pm
I wish trolls' mothers had drowned them at birth.
No...wait...I wish trolls' mothers had opted to give blowjobs.
Duncan Black
Baby make poopie. Baby post it on internet. Bad baby!
OK, troll, defend Bill Kristol.
Be specific.
[crickets]
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Baby make poopie. Baby post it on internet. Bad baby!
DJ
I love it that, on teevee, all the repubs said the same thing for a long time, hardly veering from *conventional wisdom*, except for Paul.
Now, at crunch time, they're supposedly sticking each other with penknives.
Hilarious.
Jews in Iran are very happy and well treated.
That's a fact and the news story about some of them fleeing to Israel is pure propoganda.
It never happened.
Convention of witches on Monday to figure out what to try and do.
Hecate
How about a rebellion?
Having seen Obama in action the last three years I am sure certain had he been in the Senate in 2002 he'd have lined up with all the other ambitious Democrats (Edwards and Clinton especially) in supporting the Iraq War authorization.
The herd instinct is strong in our leaders... Wellstone was one of the few willing to vote by himself. So is Dodd.
Having seen Obama in action the last three years I am sure certain had he been in the Senate in 2002 he'd have lined up with all the other ambitious Democrats (Edwards and Clinton especially) in supporting the Iraq War authorization.
I'm disappointed with his statements on the war--and his foreign affairs person we talked to last week was cute, though didn't give me the warm fuzzies about Iraq--but I'm not certain he would've voted for the AUMF because, of course, he couldn't. I'd rather not base a vote on a total hypothetical instead of what he's saying and doing now.
Certain.
SteveLG
Yep.
GWPDA, that's such excellent news!
Glad to hear it.
I'd rather be Rick Springfield.
Tralfaz
Reminds me of Patton Oswalt's bit about people getting plastic surgery to get a "famous face," picturing some poor bastard in the 80's on the table as the anaesthetic takes hold, "Please, give me Steve Guttenberg's face!"
As a side note: I love how trolls invoke "Duncan Black".
In the same sense, you know your dealing with a RonBot when you see the phrase, "Dr. Paul".
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schnitzel!
"Today Italian men still hold their genitals to ward off the evil eye..."
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I remember it as if it were yesterday: I was eleven years old, leafing through the Sears catalog, when I stumbled into the women's foundation garments section-- that's when the Evil Eye began a lifetime of stalking me.
I just don't see Obama running to the right. I don't really understand when people say that.
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Sparkle Plenty
Well, I personally object to his support for ethanol and nuclear power, his goal of expanding the military, his equivocation (at best) on the bankruptcy bill, his stance towards Israel and Sharon, his support for the "Secure Fence Act," his support for the death penalty, and his saber-rattling towards Pakistan and Iran.
Other than that, I don't really have a problem with him.
Who the fuck is Duncan Black?
What Obama has going for him is a positive attributional style which is evident when he speaks. It is often the difference between winning and losing in many venues.
jared | 12.29.07 - 7:53 pm
Ain't you the guy who was pushing all that shitty jewelry over the holiday shopping season?
I'd rather not base a vote on a total hypothetical instead of what he's saying and doing now.
We're slowly moving toward some mind meld.
Other than that, I don't really have a problem with him.
RACIST!
Coming of age in the 1960s, I heard the word “fascist” all the time. College presidents were fascists, Vietnam War supporters were fascists, policemen who tangled with protesters were fascists, on and on. To some, the word smacked of Hitler and genocide. To others, it meant the oppression of the masses by the privileged few. But one point was crystal clear: the word belonged to those on the political left. It was their verbal weapon, and they used it every chance they got. . . .
Leftists still drop the “f word” to taint their opponents, be they global warming skeptics or members of the Moral Majority. The sad result is that Americans have come to equate fascism with right-wing political movements in the United States when, in fact, the reverse is true. It is liberalism, not conservatism, that embraces what he claims is the fascist ideal of perfecting society through a powerful state run by omniscient leaders. And it is liberals, not conservatives, who see government coercion as the key to getting things done.
Well said.
The herd instinct is strong in our leaders... Wellstone was one of the few willing to vote by himself. So is Dodd.
George Johnston |
Herd shmerd. The fear that a single drum of toxic chemicals would be found in Iraq and used against them (figuratively) in campaign ads if they voted against the war was enough to keep them all shitting in their pants.
They just love their jobs too much to take a chance.
The NFL decided to give the option to both of its broadcast "partners." However, here in Northern NJ, NYC media market, the game will be on CBS, NBC, and WOR (2,4, and 9)--three broadcast channels!
Hate to say it but I think nuclear power is now a foregone conclusion
In the same sense, you know your dealing with a RonBot when you see the phrase, "Dr. Paul".
Orac calls him "Dr Paul", but that's sarcsm, as RonPaul is an anti-vaxer.
jared | 12.29.07 - 7:53 pm
Ain't you the guy who was pushing all that shitty jewelry over the holiday shopping season?
Terry C, Democratic Bitch
While losing weight eating at Subway...
As another side note: I love how trolls are too dim to even make up a nym.
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juan
Convention of witches on Monday to figure out what to try and do.
Hecate
Sugar, there is an obligation of all hospitals to offer some form of charity care. More, you need to be in touch with teh Medical Society, with the doctors involved and, as VforV noted, medical social workers (usually accessed thru hospitals) to work out the rest. The care for the Mother is going to be the most difficult part. If there are any affiliations: I recently had to work out this kind of thing for a very dear friend whose Mummy, in NYC was needing help, while he was in the Far East. The Jewish Homes for the Aged were the key there - such affiliations come in very handy.
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jared | 12.29.07 - 7:53 pm
Ain't you the guy who was pushing all that shitty jewelry over the holiday shopping season?
Terry C, Democratic Bitch
Shit! I thought every kiss begins with Kay.
I just don't see Obama running to the right. I don't really understand when people say that.
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Sparkle Plenty
Don't be coy, little one.
Hate to say it but I think nuclear power is now a foregone conclusion
cahuenga | 12.29.07 - 7:58 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
I'm not sure what means, exactly.
We're slowly moving toward some mind meld.
I'm voting for a Hobbit, not a Vulcan!
The sad result is that Americans have come to equate fascism with right-wing political movements in the United States when, in fact, the reverse is true
No, right wingers ARE fascists.
For Chrissakes, reading a fucking book about history for once in your lives.
Shall I rent out my house for the Super Bowl? Do I dare?
Only if you don't mind a beer funk throughout your house.
I'd rather not base a vote on a total hypothetical instead of what he's saying and doing now.
NTodd, Now 80lbs Heavier
My "certainty" (although it is indeed hypothetical) is based entirely on what he's been doing and saying for the last three years.
I'd be happy to see him serve a couple of terms in the Senate and practice being his own man.
I actually got temporarily banned here a couple of years ago (along with WGG, IIRC) for using rather colorful terms (which I wouldn't care to retract -- or repeat) to state my opinion of Obama's behavior his first year in the Senate.
Who let Doughy Pantload in?
C'mon, fess up.
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Hate to say it but I think nuclear power is now a foregone conclusion
cahuenga | 12.29.07 - 7:58 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
I'm not sure what means, exactly.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint | Homepage | 12.29.07 - 7:59 pm | #
It means shut up and eat your radioactive cornflakes.
Hmmmmmmmmm......
I said earlier today as I hypothetical that I believed that Edwards would now be bragging about his Iraq war vote if the war had gone well - which someone here retorted as an impossible hypo. which doesn't speak well to Edwards (nor Hillary) in any case.
As we all know Obama, in reality, did actually say this:
What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war. What I am opposed to is the cynical attempt by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and other armchair, weekend warriors in this administration to shove their own ideological agendas down our throats, irrespective of the costs in lives lost and in hardships borne.
What I am opposed to is the attempt by political hacks like Karl Rove to distract us from a rise in the uninsured, a rise in the poverty rate, a drop in the median income - to distract us from corporate scandals and a stock market that has just gone through the worst month since the Great Depression. That's what I'm opposed to. A dumb war. A rash war. A war based not on reason but on passion, not on principle but on politics.
Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors, that the Iraqi economy is in shambles, that the Iraqi military a fraction of its former strength, and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history. I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a US occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of Al Qaeda. I am not opposed to all wars. I'm opposed to dumb wars.
You want a fight, President Bush? Let's fight to wean ourselves off Middle East oil, through an energy policy that doesn't simply serve the interests of Exxon and Mobil. Those are the battles that we need to fight. Those are the battles that we willingly join. The battles against ignorance and intolerance. Corruption and greed. Poverty and despair.
The consequences of war are dire, the sacrifices immeasurable. We may have occasion in our lifetime to once again rise up in defense of our freedom, and pay the wages of war. But we ought not -- we will not -- travel down that hellish path blindly. Nor should we allow those who would march off and pay the ultimate sacrifice, who would prove the full measure of devotion with their blood, to make such an awful sacrifice in vain.
Hate to say it but I think nuclear power is now a foregone conclusion
cahuenga
How old are you?
Leftists?
Whatever.
G-men baybee!!!
Belichek is insane.
Last week he said that "we've had a good season. We beat the Jets twice."
Lincoln H.S. could beat the Jets.
Well, le's be honest, most people can't tell the difference between fascism, authoritarianism, communism, socialism, totalitarianism and solipsism.
They are just too busy at the trough to do any of that fancy larnin'
The Pats are on channels 4, 5, 7, and 10.
that's a first!!
I'm voting for a Hobbit, not a Vulcan!
NTodd, Now 80lbs Heavier | Homepage | 12.29.07 - 7:59 pm | #
W00kiez, beaches!
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Speaking of mind melds, I find the scene where Spock mind melds with Valeris, to be of the most disturbing scenes in SF moviedom.
Doug! Hard freeze tonight, dropping down below 25 -here-. Cover everybody.
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Listening to Prairie Home Companion--think I'm hearing Pres. Josiah Bartlett singing!
Soak up the Fred
The sad result is that Americans have come to equate fascism with right-wing political movements in the United States when, in fact, the reverse is true
As long as you're not too picky about the actual definition of fascism, this is arguably true, if you're an idiot.
It's funny how calling us "Stalinists" isn't good enough anymore. He worked hard for his body count...where's his respect?
My "certainty" (although it is indeed hypothetical) is based entirely on what he's been doing and saying for the last three years.
I just don't see it to be particularly constructive or instructive to guess what he would have done in 2002.
And of course, I have to note that Kucinich was the only candidate who voted against the AUMF...
As we all know Obama, in reality, did actually say this:
I don't care what he said then.
I don't care what any of them did.
They took their cue from Bush/Cheney.
Deal with it.
The fear that a single drum of toxic chemicals would be found in Iraq and used against them (figuratively) in campaign ads if they voted against the war was enough to keep them all shitting in their pants.
They just love their jobs too much to take a chance.
Bond, James Bond
I think they believed, almost to a person, that like the first Gulf War it would be over quickly and triumphantly and "you won't want to have been on the wrong side of this."
And I don't think they gave a bit more thought to the aftermath, most of them, than the people in the Administration who were responsible for the planning.
It would all just take care of itself, and we'd move on.
Game time!!!!!!!!!!
Bye now
As we all know Obama, in reality, did actually say this
Yes, thank you.
And it is liberals, not conservatives, who see government coercion as the key to getting things done.
You mean Abramoff, Scanlon, Reed, Delay are liberal lobbyists?
And And And warrantless wire tap Dubya is a liberal?
Boo!
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As we all know Obama, in reality, did actually say this:
I don't care what he said then.
Um...why not?
And of course, I have to note that Kucinich was the only candidate who voted against the AUMF...
Don't care about that either.
It would help if people would move on.
We need it. Badly.
I think they believed, almost to a person, that like the first Gulf War it would be over quickly and triumphantly and "you won't want to have been on the wrong side of this."
I opposed THAT Bush ego trip, too.
And made no bones about it.
No, right wingers ARE fascists.
Right wingers may not always be fascists, but fascists are always right wingers.
Off to the local bar to watch NFL in quadropohtopicvision or whatever it's called on 4 different channels.
Nite all!
Oh Jesus. Curt Schilling in an ad for McCain. Pickin' anothah winnuh Curt.
The dulcet tones of Bryant Gumble will be on the NFL Network feed.
Which I guess would be your local broadcast station.
I just don't see it to be particularly constructive or instructive to guess what he would have done in 2002.
It's really just another way of expressing my disappointment in what a cautious, temporizing figure he's been in the Senate.
The "guess" isn't important in itself... it's just a particular way of saying what makes it impossible for me to support him for the nomination at this time.
I'm not sure what means, exactly
Nuclear energy is something I've been tracking for awhile.
The amount of money the government is pouring into nuclear energy in incentives and subsidies is absolutely appalling. In addition, other energy technologies aren’t maturing fast enough to offset the eventual decline in petroleum production. We will be forced into nuclear to avoid energy starvation.
And it is liberals, not conservatives, who see government coercion as the key to getting things done.
Rightards are idiots.
That is all.
I had to order large frost insulating sheets for my citrus trees. No-had any in stock, only little bitty ones that would be usefull for covering up a ground plant. Been covering up with visqueen, and placing a 'milk heater' underneath.
Yes! Martin Sheen singing a Quaker hymn, "How Can I Keep from Singing"--
There is an endless song
Echoes in my soul
I hear the music ring
And though the storms may come
I am holding on
To the rock I cling
How can I keep from singing Your praise
How can I ever say enough
How amazing is Your love
How can I keep from shouting Your name
I know I am loved by the King
And it makes my heart want to sing
And it is liberals, not conservatives, who see government coercion as the key to getting things done.
Which is why the Bush junta is against waterboarding...
And of course, I have to note that Kucinich was the only candidate who voted against the AUMF...
Don't care about that either.
Oy. Yeah, it's so important to move on from the most critical fucking vote in our time. Let's not question judgement or voting record! Great idea.
They took their cue from Bush/Cheney.
Deal with it.
pie
sorry i guess i don't understand why Bush would tell them to give a speech bashing karl rove.
Which is why the Bush junta is against waterboarding...
George Johnston
And invading and occupying countries that did not attack us.
just came back to the thread...so forgive if I am repeating.
The NYT confirms Kristol to pollute its pages:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/3...kristol.html?
hp
The '07 Patriots are significantly more dominant than the '72 Miami Dolphins. But they have to win it all.
other energy technologies aren’t maturing fast enough to offset the eventual decline in petroleum production. We will be forced into nuclear to avoid energy starvation.
cahuenga
Erm... so?
We will be forced into something, and I'd take nuclear over a few of the alternatives.
i can haz futbol?
sorry i guess i don't understand why Bush would tell them to give a speech bashing karl rove.
POLITICAL JU JITSU!
Sugar, there is an obligation of all hospitals to offer some form of charity care.
my uninsured neice received great care at MD Anderson in Houston and not a cent was ever spent.
"Lincoln H.S. could beat the Jets."
nah. we lost to father judge
The '07 Patriots are significantly more dominant than the '72 Miami Dolphins. But they have to win it all.
Sad that they have to make it through more games, but yup. And, of course, it's all good news for the GOP.
Gotta head out to go to an end of the year party.
As we all know Obama, in reality, did actually say this:
That's a very good speech that follows. Anyone know what became of that guy?
I suspect he's in the same undisclosed location where the John Kerry of 1971 sat out the 2004 election.
It is liberalism, not conservatism, that embraces what he claims is the fascist ideal of perfecting society through a powerful state run by omniscient leaders.
Truly, the conservative goal of enriching well connected cronies through a powerful state run by omniscient leaders is so much more noble. Isn't it.
POLITICAL JU JITSU!
NTodd
More like GI Joe with kung fu grip.
Well I'll say it.
Good for Dennis.
I wish we were the nation where he was middle of the road.
The sad result is that Americans have come to equate fascism with right-wing political movements in the United States when, in fact, the reverse is true
Man, can they project.
Every rotten character trait and fault they possess they try to attribute to liberals.
And it is liberals, not conservatives, who see government coercion as the key to getting things done.
It's true. I firmly believe in coercing the government to abide by the rule of law.
the fascist ideal of perfecting society through a powerful state run by omniscient leaders
Which isn't actually fascism, fucktard.
Is there any act of government that can't be described as "coercion?"
The hiring of Kristol by the Times may be, oddly, a blessing in disguise.
Bear with me.
You know, and I know, that he is going to continue to spew ignorance, stupidity and stuff that will simply embarrass the hell out of the paper. You thought Judy^3 Miller was shameful? Hell, baby, you ain't seen nuthin' yet. And that is a good thing.
Why? Because right now the Times is trying hard to be the Right Wing's BFF. Hell, yes. They're gonna make the Washington Post look like The Daily Star.
So, they're trying to out-right everybody else. I say let 'em. If they want to commit slow-motion suicide, who are we to stop 'em?
My guess is that a year or two down the road, when they are losing readers by the tens of thousands, someone will realize: hey, maybe we have made a little mistake. And then, kids, then they will do what they should have done a long, long time ago: stop trying to placate the conservatives. You cannot placate the right. You will only piss off everyone else. So you're gonna lose readers.
It may take them fifty or a hundred million bucks to figure this out, but believe me, they'll figure it out.
With Kristol on board, they'll figure it out a whole lot sooner than without.
More like GI Joe with kung fu grip.
I had that guy. It's quite possible his right arm is still stuck in a support in the basement of the duplex we lived in back in '76.
Fiat money!
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Is there any act of government that can't be described as "coercion?"
Uncle Smokes
Depends on how you feel about the social contract.
One of the main purposes of the Iraq war was to divide the Dems. It's still paying off. If you are basing your vote on the 5 year old AUMF, then you are pwned by Rove.
It's great that Obama was against the war back then.
But he could have been a leader against the war while he's been in the Senate.
So could Clinton, Dodd and Biden.
They haven't really done a fucking thing.
Dodd stood up against the telecoms but really how hard was that? Everybody hates them and any sane person can't see why they should get retroactive immunity.
Fuck!!
bryant gumbel!
It may take them fifty or a hundred million bucks to figure this out, but believe me, they'll figure it out.
Tucker Carlson STILL works for MSNBC.
Ending the regular season 16-0 means precisely shit if the Patriots don't win the Super Bowl.
"Historic" game, my ass.
Goldberg's finest moment was his dairy farmers vs. cow farmers post. Possibly the dumbest thing I've ever read in my life. Although Planet Gore gave him a run for his money yesterday....
We American viewers have a choice between Bryant Gumbel on CBS or Bryant Gumbel on NBC.
Oy. Yeah, it's so important to move on from the most critical fucking vote in our time.
Don't be so fucking dramatic.
It's never been about one vote. It's been a series of votes, like, for example, no oversight about military spending between 2000 and 2006.
Thanks to a republican majority in Congress.
Death.
Is there any act of government that can't be described as "coercion?"
Well, it's a matter of degree. A democratic republic at least has the virtue of the government being imposed by the people themselves, even if the minority might be forced to do things they don't want to do. But if you have mechanisms to safeguard their fundamental rights, then I'd say it isn't really coercion so much as choice and compromise with basic protections.
Vs. beef farmers, I mean.
dairy farmers vs. cow farmers
Wait.
What?
It is a shame that Obama has turned out to be nothing more than some slick packaging. Maybe he'll learn that we don't want people who merely go along with the right wingers representing our party. His record is not a pretty one and it has finally caught up to him.
Good riddance.
i agree with HBK on those lazy ass turds in the Senate.
just what did they do to slow Bush.
The Goopers have shown them how to gum up the works. It just takes balls.
I had to order large frost insulating sheets for my citrus trees. No-had any in stock, only little bitty ones that would be usefull for covering up a ground plant. Been covering up with visqueen, and placing a 'milk heater' underneath.
Doug
Don't forget to water deeply too. Me, I just use old sheets and comforters. Got one of my grandmother's quilts from before the war wrapping up the Meyer lemon right now.
It may take them fifty or a hundred million bucks to figure this out, but believe me, they'll figure it out.
Tucker Carlson STILL works for MSNBC.
Yeah, but Sulzberger's smarter than the gang at MSNBC.
Go Giants!!!
MAAAAANNNNNNIIIIINNNNNGGGG!!!!
One of the main purposes of the Iraq war was to divide the Dems. It's still paying off.
This is absolutely true.
One of the main purposes of the Iraq war was to divide the Dems. It's still paying off. If you are basing your vote on the 5 year old AUMF, then you are pwned by Rove.
Amen.
If you are basing your vote on the 5 year old AUMF, then you are pwned by Rove.
Yes, please forget politicians actions.
"It may take them fifty or a hundred million bucks to figure this out, but believe me, they'll figure it out."
I don't, in fact, believe you. I hope you're right, but I think having made this decision they will become incapable of admitting the dfh's might be right.
One of the main purposes of the Iraq war was to divide the Dems. It's still paying off. If you are basing your vote on the 5 year old AUMF, then you are pwned by Rove.
Tralfaz
Well, no. I will base my vote on who will get the troops out of that hellhole the fastest and leave the fewest behind for the shortest amount of time. Nothing to do with what happened five years ago. But a tremendous amount to do with the future and so far, Kucinich is my man.
And it is liberals, not conservatives, who see government coercion as the key to getting things done.
Because those corporations would do the right thing all by themselves without anyone ever regulating or auditing them. Just please disregard those miners bodies in the Utah mountains or the dead teenagers whose transplants were denied. They were all just a bunch of fascists.
Eli's Comin'!
Fuck!!
bryant gumbel!
No thanks.
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Dodd stood up against the telecoms but really how hard was that? Everybody hates them
Yeah, my neighbor was just telling me the other day...
Don't be so fucking dramatic.
Oh, I'll damn well be fucking dramatic. 1,200,000 people dead is pretty fucking dramatic for a "lapse of judgement."
It's never been about one vote. It's been a series of votes, like, for example, no oversight about military spending between 2000 and 2006.
No, it is about one vote. One vote at a time. And voting for the disaster at the beginning is a pretty big fucking blemish on one's record.
Thanks to a republican majority in Congress.
Democrats had the majority in the Senate in 2002.
And the "didn't have the votes" excuse rings hollow yet today. Moral courage on the part of our Dems might have changed the course of our policy, the debate, elections, etc.
So yeah, one fucking vote is fucking important. Don't be so fucking cavalier about how the fucking government works as it wields the power to kill.
We American viewers have a choice between Bryant Gumbel on CBS or Bryant Gumbel on NBC.
This way, CBS's and NBC's production costs are zero.
If you despise Gumbel (and who doesn't), find your radio and listen to the Westwood One broadcast.
OK, if I was really fall down drunk, I'd do Tom Brady.
Eli's Comin'!
Or Peter Kraus.
Whichever.
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Hate to say it, but Gumbel is actually very good as a sportscaster.
(Better than his brother, IMHO.)
And... he's from New Orleans, heh heh...
Who's singing the anthem?
Eli's fumblin'!
David Derbes, tngld up in blue
Flipped your touchdown.
PATRIOTS/GIANTS BEING BROADCAST BY BOTH CBS AND NBC.
THIS IS A MAJOR AND UNPRECEDENTED TELEVISION EVENT.
You cannot placate the right. You will only piss off everyone else.
The most important 12 words of 2007
Well, no. I will base my vote on who will get the troops out of that hellhole the fastest and leave the fewest behind for the shortest amount of time.
Wow. That's quite a crystal ball you have.
Good grief.
Don't be so fucking dramatic.
Oh, I'll damn well be fucking dramatic.
Is this one of those pissing contest thingies again?
So they balance out a stable full of liberal columnists with the least credible lousy excuse for a conservative they could find. Sounds fair to me.
"Is this one of those pissing contest thingies again?"
seems so.
I am *not* basing my vote on teh AUMF - in fact, I'm one of the few who defends Hillary's vote in that regard. (Edwards, too clearly.)
But SteveLG brought it up, so I responded.
In any case, I just don't see Obama as swerving to the right as much as others, nor Dodd or Edwards or even Dennis as the saviour.
There is very little difference between the top three candidates, imo, and while I appreciate Dodd's FISA action, when you're at 1% you can afford to roll the dice.
other energy technologies aren’t maturing fast enough to offset the eventual decline in petroleum production. We will be forced into nuclear to avoid energy starvation.
cahuenga
It's a distinct possibility. It's not a foregone conclusion. Which is why I dislike politicians who treat it as one.
We will be forced into something, and I'd take nuclear over a few of the alternatives.
JR, kerosene and a match | Homepage | 12.29.07 - 8:08 pm | # [kill]
I agree in theory (e.g., if competent, honest people were in charge, and were following all the necessary precautions, and the total costs were honestly presented to the public instead of being hidden away).
In practice...not so sure.
(bows deeply towards Hecate)
Thank you.
Yikes--did they use the public address system for the anthem singer?
Kinda hard to hear well....
Don't be so fucking dramatic.
Oh, I'll damn well be fucking dramatic.
Is this one of those pissing contest thingies again?
I predict prairie dogs in the near future.
NTodd -
Seriously, nicely said.
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I also agree with Tralfaz... I want to be for someone because of what they intend to do tomorrow. I have to remember what they did yesterday, yes, but it can't be the primary motivation.
My gripe with Obama is that he pats himself on the back for not compromising on that one vote, but in the next breath says if we elect him, he's going to compromise all over the place. It makes no sense to me.
Who's singing the anthem?
Idina Menzel.
Often, the Giants use Kate Mara, granddaughter of Wellington Mara AND Art Rooney, the patriarch of the Steelers.
THIS IS A MAJOR AND UNPRECEDENTED TELEVISION EVENT.
song
Er, jack?
I don't give a fuck.
And you need to get out more.
Wow. That's quite a crystal ball you have.
Good grief.
pie
And you will not? That's an enabling of status quo bullshit you got goin' there!
NTodd I love you.
Like a brother.
Really.
Is this one of those pissing contest thingies again?
Stunt Woman
There will be testing for FloMax® usage afterwards, so don't even think about doping up.
I can write the word "fuck" in the snow. I want to work for the New York Times, too.
One of the main purposes of the Iraq war was to divide the Dems. It's still paying off.
This is absolutely true.
SteveLG
We agree!! Yay!!!
[ handshake? ]
"You cannot placate the right. You will only piss off everyone else."
be nice if these became words to live by. They need to be remembered as much as people need to remember that to the repugs bipartisanship means let's compromise by doing it their way.
In practice...not so sure.
Phila
When we invade we will give you Candus.
Democrats had the majority in the Senate in 2002.
Hardly.
OTOH, maybe the elected officials at the time didn't share our viewpoints.
Ever think of that?
OH fuck you, Roger Goodell, making this a "gift" to the NFL fans.
Fuck you with barbed wire.
THIS IS A MAJOR AND UNPRECEDENTED TELEVISION EVENT.
song
Except for the first Super Bowl, which was simulcast on CBS and NBC.
And fuck off, jack.
Well, goin' down to watch with my in-laws, every single one of 'em born in the greatest city in the US of A, New York.
Later, folks.
Go Giants!!
If you are basing your vote on the 5 year old AUMF, then you are pwned by Rove.
Tralfaz
Interesting theory.
Idina Menzel.
Hot.
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As long as there's no Madden.
I'm very confused.
how is that an american idol contestant did not sing teh national anthem?????
"THIS IS A MAJOR AND UNPRECEDENTED TELEVISION EVENT."
nah. it's a football game.
THIS IS UNBELIEVABLE. THE GAME IS BEING BROADCAST ON 3 MAJOR NETWORKS.
One of the main purposes of the Iraq war was to funnel hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars to Halliburton and Carlyle Group companies. It's still paying off.
Fixed your typo.
[ handshake? ]
Culture of TrÜth
Uh, sure...
I didn't even know we were having a fight.
Idina Menzel.
Hot.
She's married to Taye Diggs. They met when they were students at Syracuse.
They need to be remembered as much as people need to remember that to the repugs bipartisanship means let's compromise by doing it their way.
We'll see what happens next year. It'll be too late for a lot of dead people.
Whatever. They're dead.
If you can't stop war, then people will continue to die.
BRYANT GUMBEL CALLING THE GAME. THIS IS BETTER THAN THE SUPER BOWL.
WHOA!!!
"You cannot placate the right. You will only piss off everyone else."
'cause they will move the goal posts.
Wow.
nah. it's a football game.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
"If it's the ultimate game, why are they playing it again next year?"
/duane thomas
THIS IS UNBELIEVABLE. THE GAME IS BEING BROADCAST ON 3 MAJOR NETWORKS.
song
NFL Network isn't a major network yet, jack. And why haven't you fucked off?
Ellis "Toast" Hobbs.
Why would I want to placate teh Right?
When I was a very small GWPDA, and we had just returned to the States, my Mummy integrated herself into the local society. She had a lovely time visiting the Art Museum with Mrs. Goldwater and the various other ladies, became involved in the schools, all that sort of thing. Because we had been away from the wondrous years of McCarthyism for so long (hey! when she left FDR was teh bestest!) it was all a little mysterious and strange. Phoenix was still pretty frontier in a lot of ways, but in other ways it wasn't. One of the biggest deals was the attempt - very strong, very sneaky, very vicious - by the Birchers to take over the schools and the instruction of children. It was planned and it was horrific. It was the mothers - the same mothers who were the Mothers March of Dimes, the same mothers who backed desegregation, the same mothers who supported Peggy Goldwater and her ally Margaret Sanger in establishing Planned Parenthood who brought the reactionary right, the vicious 'right' to its knees. It was a long term difficult activity, but they were the forefront and they won.
For awhile at least.
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This week being out and about I found out that three of our family friends with sons the same age as Youngest DWD have their boys fighting in either Iraq or Afghanistan. My feelings toward Lil Boot's war are kind of on edge right now. I do not want to have funerals of close friends to attend, thank you.
This war is simply an abomination and we must never forget it even if the media will never mention it again. It is killing innocent Iraqis and forcing our own young people into untenable positions that will haunt them forever.
Just damn.
MANNING TO BURESS 52 YARD STRIKE. 1ST DOWN INSIDE THE RED ZONE.
It brigs a tear to my eye when I realize that, howeer minor, I have made a contribution to Eschaton's culture.
(Damn it, David Derbes, now I have an "Eli's Coming" earworm stuck in my head.)
Just got home to some bad news--Flipper (i.e. Romney) has opened a nine point lead over Huck in Iowa. I was afraid this would happen. Guess throwning enough money at something often works.
http://tpmelectioncentral.com/
20...ead_in_iowa.php
It is always more exciting when YOU POST IN ALL CAPS!
Is there football going on?
Are the Stillers playing for the Stanley Cup?
If so, Go Team!
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song | 12.29.07 - 8:23 pm | #
Don't make me switch over to Firefox in order to killfile you. Just don't, okay?
As for me, I support Kucinich because he's a fucking pacifist. And if you cocksuckers don't like it, I'm gonna split your fucking heads open with a machete and piss all over your addled brains.
It brigs a tear to my eye when I realize that, howeer minor, I have made a contribution to Eschaton's culture.
JR, kerosene and a match
Dry yer eyes, mate. We say all kinds of shit here.
If you are basing your vote on the 5 year old AUMF, then you are pwned by Rove.
Um, no. I am not pwned by Rove for remembering what candidates have done. It's called a record.
Kucinich voted against AUMF. He voted against PATRIOT. I trust his judgement more than the other candidates. It's called a choice.
Idina Menzel--Broadway (big break in Rent, Tony for Wicked Witch of the West in Wicked) and film, some TV.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idi...ki/
Idina_Menzel
Obama put up a caution flag for me pandering to the gay haters. But it's the constant "let's not be partisan" crap that truly turns me off. We need a fighter, not someone announcing from the beginning that what he wants most to do is get along.
It was bad enough when Kerry and Edwards didn't learn from Gore's experience in 2000. In fact, the memory of his rollover for Cheney is my strongest reservation against Edwards. I only hope that, like Gore, he has learned his lesson.
But there is no excuse at all this year to delude oneself or those who would vote for you that getting are freedoms back isn't going to be uncivile and even ugly.
This week being out and about I found out that three of our family friends with sons the same age as Youngest DWD have their boys fighting in either Iraq or Afghanistan.
They took them off in handcuffs?
(Damn it, David Derbes, now I have an "Eli's Coming" earworm stuck in my head.)
Antidote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_...h?
v=_YhG4OTCw1Y
"If it's the ultimate game, why are they playing it again next year?"
/duane thomas
SteveLG
Reminds me of George Carlin writing that on principle he never attends the "first annual" anything.
'cause they will move the goal posts.
1Watt, eggumacated
You got it.
And you gotta admit, that deep pass to Plaxico B. was pretty effin' aggressive.
Back at halftime, maybe...
(But Coughlin was dumb to challenge the no-catch. It was no catch, and there goes a time out.)
As for me, I support Kucinich because he's a fucking pacifist. And if you cocksuckers don't like it, I'm gonna split your fucking heads open with a machete and piss all over your addled brains.
I hate pacifists.
If you can't stop war, then people will continue to die.
pie
And yet you disagree with my point?
Damn.
Flipper (i.e. Romney) has opened a nine point lead over Huck in Iowa.
Yeah, polls in Iowa always tell the tale.
Just ask President Dean.
Anyway, Huckabee's dangerous as a rattlesnake with an explosive belt on. Be careful what you wish for.
The problem with pacifists is that they aren't violent enough.
A 52 yard completion?
Go Giants, save me from pathetic Pat puck for eva
GO ALL CAPS
This week being out and about I found out that three of our family friends with sons the same age as Youngest DWD have their boys fighting in either Iraq or Afghanistan.
They took them off in handcuffs?
pie
You know what? Just kiss my fat ass, and don't miss the crack.
Eli and Plexico are doing well so far. Problem is, they'll probably sit the second half.
The fuck is going on with the Giant offense?
They have one now.
If you can't stop war, then people will continue to die.
Therefore we should continue to elect people who see militarism as a viable solution to the world's problems.
And yet you disagree with my point?
What point?
I usually scroll by your posts.
GUMBEL, 'JACOBS IS STONED IN THE HOLE.'
The problem with pacifists is that they aren't violent enough.
They do get a lot of pussy, though.
touchdown new york
Hey! Here in the NYC media market, the game's on four freakin' networks! CBS, NBC, MyNetwork (WOR), and the NFL cable network.
Giants just got a TD. Crowd going mildly crazy.
Oh oh
oh oh
TD!!!
As far as Kristol goes-- he's another one of the prize poison mushrooms grown in the moral, ethical, and intellectual toxic waste dump of neoliberal conservativism. He's a member of an incestuous extended family of similar toxic fungi: Kagans, Perles, Podhoretzes, Ledeens, etc.
As Phila and others have already noted, Kristol-class infotainwhores are not bound by traditional standards of probity and integrity. Their paymasters do not require them to be honest, candid, scrupulous, or circumspect in their public comments. They are there because they are A-list Wingnut Infotainwhores, persons of minimal merit and maximal reputation, posers acting the role of Sober Soothsayer.
Public editors will gamely, or condescendingly, fend off any criticisms of the content of Kristol's putrid musings. He will be accorded the widest latitude of expression, since he's not writing as a "reporter", but as an esteemed savant who must be trusted to express his salient views as freely as possible.
Honesty is so far out of fashion that public figures, especially pro-maladministration imperialist-enablers, will say any old thing on the spur of the moment, knowing that there's no real risk that the speaker will be held accountable for deliberate misstatements and prevarications. Indeed, Kristol and his ilk simply sneer at efforts to rationally critique their fabrications, contradictions, and inconsistencies.
Both Kristol and his new employer are shams, wraiths, malignant husks of something that was never really wholesome in the first place.
Giants totallu P0wnd sucky NE
TD!!!
YESSSSSSSSSSSS
That was a beautiful drive on first possession.
Nobody got my "Peter Kraus" joke.
To be expected, I suppose.
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I hate pacifists.
NTodd, Now 80lbs Heavier | Homepage | 12.29.07 - 8:26 pm | # [kill]
That's it. You're so fucking dead.
I'm gonna strangle you with your own duodenum and then boil you down into mucilage.
I hate pacifists.
That's because 100,000 years ago, back on the plains of Africa, your brain evolved with a pacifist-hating module. It's right next to the homophobic module.
-Steven Pinker bot
Nice first drive by the Giants.
Wow, a TD.
Well, I gotta go finish A Very Special Paxcast featuring Zod as Blossom. l8rh9rz.
Giants are just raising your hopes folks. They'll break your hearts tonight. I guarantee it.
The problem with pacifists is that they aren't violent enough.
And the fucking anarchists can't get organized.
No wonder the left is such a mess.
"Nobody got my "Peter Kraus" joke."
Might have if I knew who the hell peter kraus was...
he's one of the musicians atrios shows on them late night videos, right?
Therefore we should continue to elect people who see militarism as a viable solution to the world's problems.
No, fuckhead.
As I told that couple today, we need to elect representatives who will listen to the people.
And get rid of lobbyists, she said.
Funny, isn't it.
They took them off in handcuffs?
pie
No, the economy did it. Just the way they (and you, apparently) planned it. Poor people are to serve as cannon fodder for the rich. They can shed their blood for the glory of the Henry Kravis's of the world and the glory of the KKR and Halliburton and Blackwater.
Here in the hinterlands they have taken all of our jobs so the kids go to college and their parents are not rich like those people down in double AA so they have to borrow the money and pay it back. They can either move away or join the service.
But I guess it is okay with you if they are all killed for the greater glory of Pie and the Elite.
I'm gonna strangle you with your own duodenum and then boil you down into mucilage
The road to hell is paved with good intestines.
sheeties
Can we just get along with the post-apocalyptic nightmare already?
I'm so sorry to hear about your friends' kids being in Iraq, DWD. Reminds me of being on jury duty, and the woman next to me mentioned her daughter was in Iraq.
Driving home news came of a female soldier killed in Iraq, and I cringed for this poor woman. If I worried about her daughter, what must she go through each time such news came out? That death was a woman from another state, but, still, I can't forget what I imagined to be her pain and fear.
That's because 100,000 years ago, back on the plains of Africa, your brain evolved with a pacifist-hating module. It's right next to the homophobic module.
-Steven Pinker bot
leibniz, monad lover | 12.29.07 - 8:30 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
Did you see that "women have no sense of humor because they don't make fun of men on unicycles" guy that Amanda Marcotte blogged about?
Worst EP argument I've ever seen in my life.
And if you cocksuckers don't like it, I'm gonna split your fucking heads open with a machete and piss all over your addled brains.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint
Spending time over at DailyKos, I see.
But I guess it is okay with you if they are all killed for the greater glory of Pie and the Elite.
DWD
Knock it off.
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oh for the love of all things holy
go Giants
save my and all northerners future vacations
The road to hell is paved with good intestines.
leibniz
Oh my.
*golfclap*
Thanks, GWPDA, but this idiot doesn't have a clue.
Joke:
"How many Pittsburgh Steelers fans does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
Five!
One to screw in the lightbulb and four to talk about how good the Steelers were in the '70's."
Har har har.
I hate football. Have you noticed?
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When I felt some relief for the woman in the jury pool, I then felt terrible for whoever had lost their daughter. Damn this pitiful president.
Dear Spork, has to be hard living in the burg for you.
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