I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

GravatarHello.


GravatarI did call sheets.


GravatarI really did.


GravatarI did call sheets.


But can you be stopped?


GravatarThere is no food up here.


GravatarKim WILDE!

i had my hair cut after her in the late 80s


GravatarBlondie from the 80's?


GravatarNotwithstanding Chimpy's frolicking in Maine, it was a bad day in Iraq

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ 20070...faZmgY9e2us0NUE


GravatarBut you didn't say "Simon Says"


GravatarOff to the driving range and fried food - later gaters.


GravatarAnd, all of a sudden, the racist children are missing.


Gravatarwhere is Atrios by the way (with all those food pics)?


GravatarSpain


GravatarI'm askeered of the video. Gimme a hint.


GravatarKim WILDE!

Boy did I miss naming that one...


Gravatari admit defeat. What sort of seafood dish is this?
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Gravatarwhere is Atrios by the way (with all those food pics)?

Barcelona, we suspect.

Oops. I meant an undisclosed location.


Gravatar"where the kids in America, wo-ho-ho"

Pastor arrested for dragging girl

Accused of dragging 15y/o behind van during run at Christian boot camp.

http://rawstory.com/showoutartic...% 2F5045830.html


Gravatarwhere is Atrios by the way (with all those food pics)?

At the Shedd Aquarium 1/2 Off Sale...


GravatarI'm askeered of the video. Gimme a hint.
V for Virginia

it's Kim Wilde 'kids in America'


GravatarPastor arrested for dragging girl

Accused of dragging 15y/o behind van during run at Christian boot camp.


Who Would Jeesus Truckpull?
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GravatarPastor arrested for dragging girl

Accused of dragging 15y/o behind van during run at Christian boot camp.


Oh, no, we only love fetuses. We can't fucking STAND children.


Gravatar
Barcelona, we suspect.

Oops. I meant an undisclosed location.



You're gonna need to come with us.


/NSA


GravatarFrom below:

Anybody else fucking pissed at the media giving that mining fuck a platform to spew anti-union hatred?

I'm pissed at the Dems who won't show up and explain why these tragedies are happening because of union busting and because Bush put mining company lobbyists in charge of mine safety.

But, then, that would be "unseemly".

Doesn't stop the wingnut, though, does it? He's standing on top of the bodies of dead miners and spewing his talking points. And, who's winning?


GravatarWhy would the NYT get hitch to review Harry Potter?

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/1...Hitchens- t.html


GravatarMoo.


GravatarWhy would the NYT get hitch to review Harry Potter?



Wingnut welfare. Boy needs a job.


GravatarGaiii.


GravatarMrs Wilde is now a professional gardener. She even writes about gardening in The Guardian. True!


GravatarBack in the early days of MTV, when they still played music videos, I would watch in the hopes this video came on. Don't know if loved her or the song more.

Sue me! I can have my own tastes.


GravatarOh, no, we only love fetuses. We can't fucking STAND children.

Well to be fair, it's only children that refuse the indoctrination of jeezus cultists that are hated.


GravatarHecate, Toby said you were a liar on the last thread.

I think you should squish his empty haid.


GravatarWho Gets The Short Straw?


Gravatarcome on NTodd, don't tell me you didn't fancy Kim Wilde back then?


Gravatarcarried over from below:

Taking words out of context is a form of lying. It's this basic lesson every Gooper must learn:

"Fuck facts, just make shit up about Dems!"


i did a google search for the quote and pulled up a gazillion reichwing sites that had the truncated quote -- all as evidence of bill clinton's commie inclinations....

fucking goobers.


GravatarWhy would the NYT get hitch to review Harry Potter?

Harry Potter and the Chalice of Gin...


GravatarSue me! I can have my own tastes.
Snow

i love you Snow! Kim was the type of girl back then that could turn me into a lesbian, true!


GravatarI think you should squish his empty haid.

I would, but the man has no penis. You have to take pity on the malformed. Imagine. He has no penis.


GravatarHecate, Toby said you were a liar on the last thread.

Oh, is he getting defensive about lighting dogs on fire again?


GravatarImagine. He has no penis.

He must look pretty funny.


Gravatarand NTodd, i'm noticing a lack of cats on your blog this week.......................................


GravatarImagine. That 15 year old cunt didn't run fast enough. Jebuz himself would have chained her to the SUV and dragged her.


Gravatari did a google search for the quote and pulled up a gazillion reichwing sites that had the truncated quote -- all as evidence of bill clinton's commie inclinations....

fucking goobers.


To them, the Second Amendment is the only one to defend. the rest need removal.

Well, until they get caught, then the Fifth's ok.

So, if the Clenis even hinted that the Second Amendment wasn't the Word of Gawd, then that's all they need to know to know he's eeeeevvvill.
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GravatarOh, is he getting defensive about lighting dogs on fire again?

He says that I'm lying and that he never said that.


GravatarHe says that I'm lying and that he never said that.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


Talent on loan from Cheney.


GravatarOK, I am never going to make it to dinner if I am going to keep replaying the video.


Gravatarxainist scriptures:

"and jeebus said, 'suffer the little illegal alien children to get off food stamps and stop taking my money'"

"cursed are the humble of spirit - you'll never get ahead and make a million dollars with that kind of attitude"

"and jeebus said to the rich man, 'take all you have and sell it, and give all the money to me'"

"a camel will go through the eye of a needle sooner than a rich man will be able to live at peace and not have to give his money to poor children"
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GravatarImagine. That 15 year old cunt didn't run fast enough. Jebuz himself would have chained her to the SUV and dragged her.

If you would just read the Bible, you would see that that's how He cured the lame.
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Gravatardo fetuses have original sin, or do you only get that once you has been borned?

they didn't cover stuff like that in hebrew school...
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GravatarKim was the type of girl back then that could turn me into a lesbian, true!

Lately, Cate is making me think of switching teams.


GravatarNtodd, i'm watching a documentary of the Morgan horse. It's a Vermont race you know. Vermont U is THE place for the study and keeping of that horse race. Very interesting, beautiful animal


GravatarHello folks. Peeps. Peepettes, and sundry.


GravatarHecate, ready for some ice cold Stoli martinis?


GravatarHello folks. Peeps. Peepettes, and sundry.
trifecta


Heya -- how's the yob going, mang?


GravatarIs NTodd a Peep, or a Peeper?


GravatarWhy would the NYT get hitch to review Harry Potter?

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/1...8/1...Hitchens- t.html
P O'Neill | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 6:47 pm |


I noticed that earlier today and my first reaction is wtf is the whiskey-soaked popinjay doing reviewing HP and TDH? I couldn't finish the review, it didn't really seem to be about the book.


GravatarLately, Cate is making me think of switching teams.
Hecate

i totally understand what you mean. BUt i'd be into Kate Winslet more, i like the curves...


Gravatardo fetuses have original sin, or do you only get that once you has been borned?

they didn't cover stuff like that in hebrew school...


Per Christian theory, they are condemmed with Original Sin from the beginning - conception, to most interpretations of Christian doctrine.

Of course, since Xtians make the doctrine follow their beliefs, and not vice-versa, they anti-abortionists talk much about the "slaying of the innocent", despite such being impossible by doctrine.
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GravatarSmalfish, NTodd is a peeping Todd.


GravatarTubby says he never said it? Back in October of '05 he admitting to having said it.

I've been saying that same shit for many years now. I wouldn't actually do such a thing, but it's how I feel about noisy and mean dogs. Better said than done. But think what you want of it.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 10.04.05 - 6:05 pm


Gravatarthe ret air force/christian/jeezus commander dragging the 15yo girl is one fucked up story. everything from the lawman saying he just wasn't sure it was a crime, depending on what the parents approved and all... to this:

$314,673 to operate the boot camp, with nearly 89 percent of the costs, $278,549, going for salaries.


GravatarSallyh,

I am v., v. ready?

How's my grand-daughter-in-law?


GravatarHeya -- how's the yob going, mang?
V for Virginia

Way too many training classes. 7.5 hour class without a break today by the state child services group.

Kids start back on Thursday though so that will be more fun.


Gravatarcome on NTodd, don't tell me you didn't fancy Kim Wilde back then?

Well, sure.


GravatarMy thoughts on state licensing.

Boring, but it's annoying too. You would be amazed at the rules and regulations they have in place. The nacho one just tripped me out.


GravatarWay too many training classes. 7.5 hour class without a break today by the state child services group.


If I get my job they're going to train me within an inch of my life. Three days of computer training, alone.


Gravatarplum p,

Yeah, but Cate in that armour is teh hot.


GravatarIs NTodd a Peep, or a Peeper?

We call all you motherfucking flatlanders who invade Vermont during foliage season, getting in our way when we're trying to commute to work 'peepers.'


GravatarI noticed that earlier today and my first reaction is wtf is the whiskey-soaked popinjay



GravatarHecate, your GIL is lovely and will be over for dinner with her parents in a few hours

How is my grandson in law?  He's absolutely gorgeous himself

Lately, the news is making me think I shouldn't sober up, at least not for another year and a half.


GravatarPlus, Toby admitted to being all talk and no walk. Like a fucking coward.


GravatarAnyone heard from whiskeyina lately?


GravatarYummm.... Foliage.


GravatarEvery time Chimpy slaps Sarkozy on the back, the French people collectively VOMIT.
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GravatarAnyone heard from whiskeyina lately?

She left a comment at my place recently. Wicked busy.


GravatarOh, "Kids in America"

Classic.


GravatarDanika McKeller wants to make math sexy.


GravatarAlways kinda liked this song....


GravatarTrifecta, she totally rocks!

Her field is statistical mechanics, so I never had her as a student, but she does UCLA proud.  She wrote a proof as an undergrad that's been accepted and utilized.


GravatarEvening of afternoon, depending, all


GravatarYeah, but Cate in that armour is teh hot.
Hecate

so was Helen Mirren in the same role in a tv serie last year. That Elizabeth sure makes some great actress act even better. Remember Glenda Jackson in 72? Ouf!


GravatarHow is my grandson in law?


Back from the beach this evening and having brunch w/ his Nonna, parents, and first cousin once removed tomorrow morning. Saying lots of words and walking like a true champ. Adores the ocean. Called me last night when he got ahold of his mother's cell phone to say, "Nonna. Cows. Moo. Bees. Bzzz." V. profound.

We elect a Democrat, it will be time enough for me to sober up.


GravatarEvery time Chimpy slaps Sarkozy on the back, the French people collectively VOMIT.

seriously. i can't possibly imagine that is going over well with his countrymen. and what about all that cheese-eating surrender monkey french bashing the repukes revel in ...


GravatarRemember Glenda Jackson in 72? Ouf!

Amen.


GravatarWicked busy.

That's good, I guess.

Thanks.


GravatarEvery time Chimpy slaps Sarkozy on the back, the French people collectively VOMIT.
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VJ


Maybe he'll get his very own commander-in-chief bomber jacket -- that'll be schweet!


Gravatari admit defeat. What sort of seafood dish is this?
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Cynicus


Those are olives that were his eyes. Look!


GravatarWe elect a Democrat, it will be time enough for me to sober up.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


Whichever the outcome, I'm getting shit-faced drunk on Election Night 2008.


GravatarI wonder if Bush has a presidential logo on his brush cutting tool. Chainsaw one.


Gravatar"There is an epidemic right now of girls dumbing themselves down … in middle school because they think its makes them attractive," she said. "[It] could be because of the role models they are getting in the media."



I agree. But do we have to limit it to girls? Boys are just as susceptible to media role models.

But I like her ideas.


Gravatarthe French people collectively VOMIT.
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VJ

they voted for him, let them be stuck with him. No pitty for the french this year, if you ask moi


GravatarDanika McKeller wants to make math sexy.

I always loved her jawline.

BTW, calculus is sexy.


GravatarI noticed that earlier today and my first reaction is wtf is the whiskey-soaked popinjay


pie | 08.11.07 - 7:02 pm


Galloway has a way with words. And I misquoted:

"You're a drink-soaked former Trotskyist popinjay," Mr Galloway informed him. "Your hands are shaking. You badly need another drink," he added later, ignoring Mr Hitchens's questions and staring intently ahead.

http://pacificgazette.blogspot.c...- poppinjay.html


GravatarHecate, I realize this is something only a grandma could appreciate, but yesterday, while having brunch with the kids and GG, I got up to use the ladies.' Maddy apparently let out a bloodcurdling scream and wouldn't calm down till Grandma got back out.  She glommed right on to me.

As I said, something only a gramma can appreciate


GravatarI wonder if Bush has a presidential logo on his brush cutting tool. Chainsaw one.


I bet there's a presidential seal in the bottom of his toilet.


GravatarWallup, my sweet wife has things for me to do, real-world. Catch you all in the AM, i hope.

Good night and good luck!
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GravatarAlways kinda liked this song....
Phila, Pizen Sarpint


Me too...but when she sings about "East California," where's she talking about I wonder? Death Valley?


GravatarNonna. Cows. Moo. Bees. Bzzz.

I will follow Him and His Wisdom to the furthest corner of the Cosmos.


GravatarWhat the hell is she waving her hands around for. My God, is that supposed to be... dancing?


GravatarMy thoughts on state licensing.

Boring, but it's annoying too. You would be amazed at the rules and regulations they have in place. The nacho one just tripped me out.
trifecta


My wonderful Son is barred from working with kids. He momentarily lost track of a kid, police were called and he was prosecuted. Long story short.

There seems to be some kinna vendetta my against the day care where he worked.

He loves kids.


Gravatar"There is an epidemic right now of girls dumbing themselves down … in middle school because they think its makes them attractive," she said. "[It] could be because of the role models they are getting in the media."

the software company that i'm working at now has the biggest percentage of wimmen engineers of any company i know

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GravatarAs I said, something only a gramma can appreciate

Well of course. You missed the bloodcurdling screams.


GravatarNTodd, you really need some kids of your own to play with.  You'd be the sort of dad where the kids would run to mom and scream, "Mom!  Dad won't give back our toys and come in for dinner!"


GravatarI bet there's a presidential seal in the bottom of his toilet.
smalfish,suspect at all times


Copy of the Constitution.


Gravatarperfected in china; coming soon to your community:

August 12, 2007
In China, a High-Tech Plan to Track People
By KEITH BRADSHER
SHENZHEN, China, Aug. 9 — At least 20,000 police surveillance cameras are being installed along streets here in southern China and will soon be guided by sophisticated computer software from an American-financed company to recognize automatically the faces of police suspects and detect unusual activity.

Starting this month in a port neighborhood and then spreading across Shenzhen, a city of 12.4 million people, residency cards fitted with powerful computer chips programmed by the same company will be issued to most citizens.

Data on the chip will include not just the citizen’s name and address but also work history, educational background, religion, ethnicity, police record, medical insurance status and landlord’s phone number. Even personal reproductive history will be included, for enforcement of China’s controversial “one child” policy. Plans are being studied to add credit histories, subway travel payments and small purchases charged to the card.

Security experts describe China’s plans as the world’s largest effort to meld cutting-edge computer technology with police work to track the activities of a population and fight crime. But they say the technology can be used to violate civil rights.

The Chinese government has ordered all large cities to apply technology to police work and to issue high-tech residency cards to 150 million people who have moved to a city but not yet acquired permanent residency.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/ 1...agewanted=print


GravatarAlways kinda liked this song....
Phila, Pizen Sarpint


Watched about the first 45 seconds. Don't get it. Maybe you had to be there.


Gravatarso was Helen Mirren in the same role in a tv serie last year. That Elizabeth sure makes some great actress act even better. Remember Glenda Jackson in 72? Ouf!
plum p, who loves Al Gore | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 7:06 pm


Labour MP Glenda Jackson?


GravatarGood news for our trolls:

It's OK to have sex with your doppelganger.


GravatarCopy of the Constitution.
SteveLG


nah, that's what he wipes his ass with..


GravatarSteveLG!

Do you know anything about this snocap thing that's used to buy tracks from Anais? I'm stuck!


GravatarNTodd, you really need some kids of your own to play with. You'd be the sort of dad where the kids would run to mom and scream, "Mom! Dad won't give back our toys and come in for dinner!"

More like "Mom! Dad just wired the house to make Britney Spears holograms.!"


GravatarMaddy apparently let out a bloodcurdling scream and wouldn't calm down till Grandma got back out. She glommed right on to me.

Heh; I appreciate it. She loves her Grandma.

Isn't this the most fun? I am just loving it.


Gravatarwill soon be guided by sophisticated computer software from an American-financed company to recognize automatically the faces of police suspects and detect unusual activity.

"There are three students in Tianenmen Square; Three Students! Nope, now there are four. Call the PLA."


GravatarMe too...but when she sings about "East California," where's she talking about I wonder? Death Valley?
Buzz Bomb | 08.11.07 - 7:09 pm |


It's like

Coast To Coast
LA to Chicago

in Smooth Operator?

Or Daddy was a cop/on the East Side of Chicago

huh?


GravatarHecate, the best part?  When you're done, they leave


GravatarIt's OK to have sex with your doppelganger.

Personally, I'd never fuck me.


GravatarSpinoza, now, I'm pretty sure NTodd wouldn't let his kids out behind the Tastee Freez.


Gravatar
It's OK to have sex with your doppelganger.



Where can I get one?


GravatarMore like "Mom! Dad just wired the house to make Britney Spears holograms.!"

More like in Logan's Run, when the hologram becomes a real girl!


Gravatar
More like in Logan's Run, when the hologram becomes a real girl!


Not going to go over well with the next Mrs. NTodd.


GravatarSpinoza, now, I'm pretty sure NTodd wouldn't let his kids out behind the Tastee Freez.

They gotta learn the family business.


GravatarThe End Times can't come soon enough for me.


GravatarI don't think that it would be v. interesting to have sex w/ myself. Where's the mystery?

Not, you know, that there's anything wrong with that.


GravatarDo you know anything about this snocap thing that's used to buy tracks from Anais? I'm stuck!
V for Virginia


It looks to me like you click on the little chevron next to where it says "Hi, Guest" and set up the account.

Beyond this I know nothing... I've never used it.


Gravatar“We have a very good relationship with U.S. companies like I.B.M., Cisco, H.P., Dell,” said Robin Huang, the chief operating officer of China Public Security. “All of these U.S. companies work with us to build our system together.”


GravatarNTodd, perhaps you'll be more successful in getting your kids to support you than I have been with mine


GravatarThey gotta learn the family business.

Does being dragged behind a van come included with that education, or is it an extra special added incentive laden package?


GravatarI can't believe no one's made a "doppelgangbang" joke yet.

I'm certainly not going to... I have some standards.


GravatarThe feature that makes the Pussy Foot even better than an actual foot is the pussy located on the sole of the foot. You can passionately fuck the foot in a way you’ve never been able to before. It is the perfect combination of foot and vagina.

Well, um, all acts of love and pleasure . . . .

That's just weird.


GravatarBeyond this I know nothing... I've never used it.
SteveLG


Hell. Can't find the tracks I think I purchased.

Oh, well -- I e-mailed customer support and I'm sure they'll clue me eventually.


GravatarSo, let's see, this vid is at least 20 yrs old, Atrios is 35, hmm, the host with a teenage new wave Philly mullet?

Needz pics.


GravatarDoes being dragged behind a van come included with that education, or is it an extra special added incentive laden package?
smalfish,suspect at all times


Extra, But the horse option is cheaper.

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GravatarNot going to go over well with the next Mrs. NTodd.

How the hell do you think I'm going to MEET the next Mrs NTodd?


GravatarThe End Times can't come soon enough for me.


Hmmmm...

It is the perfect combination of foot and vagina.

Why didn't I think of that?


GravatarPhila, and here I thought spanking horses were a bizarre concept.


GravatarWell, um, all acts of love and pleasure . . . .

That's just weird.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 7:18 pm | #
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The Dick Morris special.
Ewww.


GravatarYou can passionately fuck the foot in a way you’ve never been able to before. It is the perfect combination of foot and vagina.


Great! I've always been afraid of athlete's snatch.


GravatarThat's just weird.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 7:18 pm | # [kill]​


Fans of The Passion can pretend it's got stigmata...


Gravatar
How the hell do you think I'm going to MEET the next Mrs NTodd?


Serendipitously.  but you're gonna have to say hello.


GravatarThe Lord sayeth, Spare not the Van Dragging.

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GravatarDoes being dragged behind a van come included with that education, or is it an extra special added incentive laden package?

Drag 'em with either my hybrid or, if I ever clean out the mountains of recycling in the garage, my bike.


GravatarIt is the perfect combination of foot and vagina.

Pumps are atractive.


GravatarWhat if your penis is longer than a foot?


GravatarWhat if your penis is longer than a foot?

You'd be NTodd.


GravatarWhat if your penis is longer than a foot?


"What if", indeed.


GravatarWhat if your penis is longer than a foot?


Speaking for myself, I wouldn't use it as a rule.


GravatarThe Lord sayeth, Spare not the Van Dragging.



James Dobson's NEXT book about "disciplining" children.


Gravatar
You'd be NTodd.

Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere | 08.11.07 - 7:22 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


Sounds like phallus advertising to me.


Gravatar"New York to East California"

What a lame line....


GravatarWhat if your penis is longer than a foot?

You'd be NTodd.


I use a meter stick.


GravatarOff to fix dinner. Have a lovely evening, all you good people.


GravatarWhat a lame line....
Gilly Gonzylon | 08.11.07 - 7:27 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


What have you got against Needles?


GravatarThe Lord sayeth, Spare not the Van Dragging.

One of the worst things about this is the fact that any fundy will tell you they're against this deplorable action. They shake their heads and pretend that it's just an isolated incidence of a bad apple.


GravatarAmerica leads the world... into the abyss:

A not-quite-shining city on a hill
Sen. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.) recently told Glenn Greenwald that the United States' legal system -- with its respect for the rule of law and citizens' civil liberties -- has been the envy of the world for years. But as we've departed from our principles, others are following suit.

"[T]here has been an erosion in the world with the rule of the law," Dodd said. "Having led the world in the rule of law in the post-World War II period, and having nations reluctantly moving in the direction we were moving in, and they now see the U.S. has retreated, and they are making a hasty retreat themselves."




GravatarThat was the same plate in both shrimp and fish pictures.

Betcha Mrs. A is COOKING and they are in their HOUSE. In Barcelona.

If it's good enough for Greenwald, it's good enough for the A's.


GravatarHow the hell do you think I'm going to MEET the next Mrs NTodd?

Buying a tshirt that says "Stop bitching. Start a revolution."


GravatarI guess I'll have to watch Kos on press the meat tonight.


GravatarWhat have you got against Needles?
Phila, Pizen Sarpint


Or Barstow Pies?
(ask my Mom)

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GravatarMen who think about penis size are, well, men who think about penis size.

Just sayin'


GravatarLet's Take a Walk...Down Valhallavägen


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s...h?v=sd9Kvq_jx- U


GravatarGood news for our trolls:

It's OK to have sex with your doppelganger.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint


They'd probably prefer this, if they could afford one:

http://www.realdoll.com/


GravatarI don't think that it would be v. interesting to have sex w/ myself. Where's the mystery?


I tend to agree. Pretty dull.
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GravatarBuying a tshirt that says "Stop bitching. Start a revolution."

Note: sitting on thumb and rotating does not equal a revolution.


Gravatar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s....h?v=sd9Kvq_jx- U
Gilly Gonzylon | 08.11.07 - 7:31 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


Can't. It's After Six.


GravatarI tend to agree. Pretty dull.
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GWPDA, Unable to Leave


I'm afraid I would just be turned off.

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GravatarBuying a tshirt that says "Stop bitching. Start a revolution."

She's better change her name back to Caroline first...


Gravataranyone familiar with Three Floyd's "Gumball Head"?

very nice


GravatarHmmm...I suspect I've selected an inauspicious time to announce that I have Bonus Critter Blogging up.


GravatarNo, but I've a dozen ears of Olathe corn for tonight, the pool algae has succumbed to the shocking and I've just discarded my copies of "Lotus Notes for Dummies" and "Project Management for Dummies." Whoooooooooooohoooooooooooo!


GravatarWould it be worse having sex with your self or watching your doppelganger have sex with someone else?


GravatarCan't. It's After Six.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 7:32 pm | #

In that case...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b...h? v=btSg757aM9A


GravatarI'm afraid I would just be turned off.

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agave | 08.11.07 - 7:33 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


You just need to bring some props in to liven stuff up....like those "pussy feet" upthread, maybe.


GravatarWould it be worse having sex with your self or watching your doppelganger have sex with someone else?
JeffCO


Afterwards, would they help paint the study?
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GravatarHmmm...I suspect I've selected an inauspicious time to announce that I have Bonus Critter Blogging up.
Diane C. Barking-Mad


We have those here. First time I've seen them in the 'wild'.

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GravatarAfterwards, would they help paint the study?

Might be better to have them do it first.


GravatarWould it be worse having sex with your self or watching your doppelganger have sex with someone else?


It could be profitable to sell "yourself" out.


GravatarAfterwards, would they help paint the study?

Might be better to have them do it first.
JeffCO


Well, I've always found it's easier to get paint off if you don't wear a lot.


GravatarDamn, haloscan just sent me back in time five minutes..


Gravatarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b...h? v=btSg757aM9A
Gilly Gonzylon | 08.11.07 - 7:36 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


I'd link to the deranged Cantonese version I had on my blog, but it seems to have been removed....


GravatarWe have those here. First time I've seen them in the 'wild'.

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agave


I selected the American alligator for this week in honor of the newest denizen of the LA Zoo.

Apparently some idiot finally came to the conclusion that his cute little pet alligator was getting too big and too ornery to keep, so he released it into a California lake.

The state wildlife agency had one hell of a time capturing it, but they finally did. The zoo fattened him up and introduced him to the public this week.


GravatarWould it be worse having sex with your self or watching your doppelganger have sex with someone else?


It could be profitable to sell "yourself" out.
smalfish,suspect at all times | 08.11.07 - 7:38 pm | #


I am the autopimp, motherfucker.


GravatarWell, I've always found it's easier to get paint off if you don't wear a lot.

I find your ideas intriguing and would like to subscribe to your vblog.


GravatarOh, this is funny. The Borg's most recent mailing is for something called "Health Navigator". Evidently it's a service that acts as an intermediary between the employee and the health insurance company. Now, understand that health insurance benefits are being slashed by the Borg - so what they've substituted are 'consultants' who will tell you that there's nothing to be done.... I think I'll give them a call and see if they can, in the next 72 hours, find me some comprehensive and cheap personal health insurance....
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GravatarSome more on Fred Phelps.
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/h...rty/ expose3.htm


GravatarThe state wildlife agency had one hell of a time capturing it, but they finally did. The zoo fattened him up and introduced him to the public this week.
Diane C. Barking-Mad


Caligators!

There is at least one in the Lake/Pond/Swamp in our community park. It's connected to the river so every time they remove one another takes it's place.

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GravatarCaligators!

There is at least one in the Lake/Pond/Swamp in our community park. It's connected to the river so every time they remove one another takes it's place.

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agave


Alligators are not native to California, so you can imagine the reaction when some folks fishing and swimming in the lake spotted the critter.

Are they native to your area?


GravatarI think I'll give them a call and see if they can, in the next 72 hours, find me some comprehensive and cheap personal health insurance....
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GWPDA, Unable to Leave



Little known fact.
Ronald Raygun was employed by PR firms representing the "Health" industry to paint national health care as an Evil Commie plot.

It worked well.


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GravatarYee Hah!! Kim Wilde. LOVE HER! One of my favorite videos from the early MTV days. Back then had a girlfriend Jeane who dressed and moved and had hair like Kim.

And to prove the power of the song, I downloaded onto a cd several years ago. My then 5 year old niece started singing along in the car, learned every word and even did kid theater to it, looking out the window etc.. the kid cute part is she sang the lyric "Little Kids in America".
Now she's 12, just walked in the door and I played it for her on ol' Atrios and she sang it to me again. Beautiful Kim

Bravo Atrios. Nice walk down memory lane. I'll have to google Kimmy to see where she is now.

Oh, and Bush sucks.


GravatarRonald Reagan made America believe in itself again, he inspired a New Generation of Americans to reach for their dreams, and achieve what they had only a few short years prior thought impossible.

Naw, I'm just effin with ya.


Gravataralthough i'm still fucking pissed at mellencamp for selling out to chevrolet with his song 'this is our country'... which i'm not fond of anyway. he's still cool.

guess the only good thing is that i don't have to listen to seger's 'like a rock' anymore in their commercials.

these lyrics of his often give me comfort (like tonight) when i get really fed up about the shit going on.


The simple minded and the uninformed
Can be easily led astray
And those that cannot connect the dots
Hey, look the other way
People believe what they want to believe
When it makes no sense at all
So, I wish you all a long sight line
and, the strength to walk tall...

oh, and the tequila is helping quite well tonight.

anyway...


GravatarAmoeba's are my heroes.


GravatarAmoeba's are my heroes.
smalfish,suspect at all times


And this is because?


GravatarHello again. Back from dinner and I must say I'm full as a tick.

My youngest son just grilled filet mignon, and asparagus marinated in olive oil, lemon juice and garlic. I cooked the baked potatoes and sliced the French bread. I also whipped up a butter and roquefort cheese spread.

I don't think I've had steak in over six or seven months, but it certainly was good.


GravatarAre they native to your area?
Diane C. Barking-Mad


Yes.
SE TX.
Tho not plentiful they are to be seen.

I thought the Alligator in the lake was a myth or a story they told newcomers.

But sure enuff, one day we took the dogs to the park, Eddy loves to swim, and there was a gator in the water.

I asked a young lady sitting on the railing of the dock if she had seen the gator, thinking it was a joke, and she nods a points. No shit, there was one floating out in the middle. Maybe 6ft long.

It was like a wind mill with the dogs location being the wind.

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GravatarAnd this is because?

Amoeba's are better than wheat Germs.


GravatarI think I'll give them a call and see if they can, in the next 72 hours, find me some comprehensive and cheap personal health insurance....
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GWPDA, Unable to Leave | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 7:45 pm | #
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Health insurance! Cheap? Comprehensive? I'm unable to understand what you are getting at.


GravatarHoly crap, Agave!

Would Eddy have tangled with the gator?


GravatarIt was like a wind mill with the dogs location being the wind.

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agave


Ahhh, weather vane not wind mill.


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GravatarAmoeba's are my heroes.

Amoeba's whats? Their mitochondria? Their pseudopods?


GravatarIf you find such a thing as affordable health insurance, please do share. I have to find something by november (COBRA running out) and I'm more than a little pissed and appalled at what I've seen so far.


Gravatarwe're the kids in 'merka


GravatarHello moonbats


GravatarIf I want something spicy to eat, McDonalds is always my first choice.


GravatarIf I want something spicy to eat, McDonalds is always my first choice.
smalfish,suspect at all times


Burger King and Frank's red hot


Gravatarbeen out all day at my Grandpa's celebrating him turning 90

and after that me and my bro headed to the pube

so been a full and fun day


GravatarI thought so

LEN did "kids in America" too


Gravataralso

The Muffs, I like that version too


Gravatarthe "pube"?


GravatarI have photos too - Grandpa's 90th birthday and Seend Flower Show and Fete


Gravatar* the pub

typo


GravatarI want to see "pube" pics.


Gravatarthe pub

typo
Moonbootica, Graduated


I figured

I'm just joshing ya


Gravataram tired hence spelling mistake


Gravatarit's no big woop

I'm the king of the typo


Gravataram tired hence spelling mistake


We all make misteaks when we're tired.


GravatarHello again. Back from dinner and I must say I'm full as a tick.


Not the one that bit Bush, I hope.

You be sick like yellow dog, in that case.


Gravatarand after that me and my bro headed to the pube

This is so very wrong on quite a few levels.


GravatarHow the hell do you think I'm going to MEET the next Mrs NTodd?

Russian / Phillipine marriage broker


GravatarNaw, I'm just effin with ya.
Andruw


Some of us are ineffable.


GravatarHoly crap, Agave!

Would Eddy have tangled with the gator?
Diane C. Barking-Mad



That worried me. He has swam way out there before, not that day, tho. Now he just swims in the river when the water is low and slow and you can see the bottom.

On land he would be safe against one but swimming hard toward shore and even a small gator grabs his leg and pulls him down, he's a goner.

I heard a story of the thing charging out of the water after a little dog.

I think Eddy would run, but Wiley?
He might just challenge it. He takes on any dog that he sees as a threat, no matter how big.

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GravatarSome of us are ineffable.
SteveLG


ineff is ineff


Gravatarsorry, that was wrong of me.


Gravatarnow I'm out for the evening


GravatarTitans have the ball.
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GravatarCan I just mention that the NFL network sucks at covering live game?


Gravatarnuncamas - Are you old enough for AARP? 'Cause United Health services is offering, thru them, individual plans rated as group plans, by states.
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Gravatarsmalfish: Can I just mention that the NFL network sucks at covering live game?

Not as bad as our local station.
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GravatarAm I missing a thread or something? It feels like it's about 4 AM or something around here.


GravatarAm I missing a thread or something? It feels like it's about 4 AM or something around here.

It's Saint Fuckaround's Day. Everybody's at church.


Gravatarsorry, that was wrong of me.
General Zod


In what way?

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GravatarNEED RESOURCES HELP.

I recall reading somewhere that Iran was a NET CONSUMER of oil, an unexpected factoid that seemed incredible. Does anybody have a source on this?

Would much appreciate help.

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GravatarGWPDA can joo email me?

gatobloggerro "at" yahoo "dot" com

Gracias.

so.


GravatarIt's Saint Fuckaround's Day. Everybody's at church.


See, now there's a deity I can get behind.


Gravatargoodnight moonbats


GravatarActual Spanish food seems quite "rustic".


GravatarAnd aussi, any ARIZONANS need cheap, comprehensive health insurance? 'Cause, if I can gather about two more people I can, thru the State and my ownself's GWPDA, Inc. make that available. Mercycare as the HMO, or MMSI as the PPO. The State program is supposed to cover sole proprietors, but this past month reneged and said that for Mercycare you need two people and for MMSI you need three. Both programmes offer coverage that really is very good, at about $200/month - you just have to lie and say GWPDA, Inc. is your employer. I have no problem with lying to insurance companies.
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GravatarHungry.


GravatarTitans on the board with a FG.
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Gravatar"Both programmes offer coverage that really is very good, at about $200/month - you just have to lie and say GWPDA, Inc. is your employer. I have no problem with lying to insurance companies."
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--GWPDA,

Oh my. Let me call my son in Tucson. I would even help pay his fee. I think I have your email address saved. I'll be in touch if he is interested. Thanks.


GravatarOur lady of a thousand road burns:

http://rawstory.com/showoutartic...% 2F5045830.html


GravatarI guess it's about time for a beer run.


GravatarTo quote that troublemaking upstart who dared defy the The Divine Right of his Lawful Soverign to RULE over him as he saw fit, You know, George Washington, the Deist and Freemason first president of the United States who wrote:

"The Citizens of the United States of America have a right to applaud themselves for giving to Mankind examples of an enlarged and liberal policy: a policy worthy of imitation. All possess alike liberty of conscience and immunities of citizenship. It is now no more that toleration is spoken of, as if it was by the indulgence of one class of people that another enjoyed the exercise of their inherent natural rights. For happily the Government of the United States, which gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance, requires only that they who live under its protection, should demean themselves as good citizens."

Don't see a word about "Except for Musselmen and Hindoos. They are Teh Suxx0rz!"

Maybe Bill Sali borrowed the Seerstones from the Tabernacle next door in Utah, and used them to see those bits about Moslems and Hindus.


GravatarApparently so many more people showed up in Ames, Iowa to take free BBQ from Mitt Romney than actually vote for anyone at the Iowa Straw Poll they're about 10,000 short of what they expected.

And that's causing a delay.

Delay by apathy.


GravatarThis country is nothing like what the founders had envisioned.


GravatarWashington unable to make FG.

WSH-0 TEN-3
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GravatarDelay by apathy.
attaturk | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 8:50 pm | #

None of the Above!

None of the Above!


GravatarThis country is nothing like what the founders had envisioned.
smalfish,suspect at all times | 08.11.07 - 8:50 pm | #

Yeah. For one thing, we don't have slaves.


GravatarBjorn: None of the Above!

A GREAT tune by The Bears.
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GravatarOh my. Let me call my son in Tucson. I would even help pay his fee. I think I have your email address saved. I'll be in touch if he is interested. Thanks.
mer


Mer - with two people as primaries, we can do Mercycare - and I swear, the Sisters of Mercy do darned good health care. The web site is http://www.healthcaregroupaz.com/ - and the deadline is 5pm 14 September - the state is freezing access for a year after that.
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Gravatardial up connection sux...

catch all you malcontents, tomorrow.

peace


GravatarDumbo, Iran does not have refining capacity to meet its own demand, so it exports crude then imports refined.

Google if you need a link.


GravatarGWPDA, I have cut and pasted your information. I'll be in touch with him tomorrow. I hate when one of my children don't have health insurance. He is a healthy 28-year-old--but you never know. Thanks again.


GravatarBjorn: None of the Above!

A GREAT tune by The Bears.
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 8:52 pm
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hi sweetz enjoying your new freedom


GravatarRookies missing field goals is not a good idea.


GravatarThis country is nothing like what the founders had envisioned.

Actually, I think it is! The Executive has overreached, creating the Monarchy they (with the exception of Federalists like Hamilton) feared! And Franklin wasn't necessarily convinced we could keep our Republic!

USA! USA! USA!


GravatarLast year, Love Demonstrated Ministries reported private and government contributions totaling $314,673 to operate the boot camp, with nearly 89 percent of the costs, $278,549, going for salaries.

"I'm from the government, and I'm here to help you tie teenage girls behind vans and drag them along on their stomachs."


Gravatarsittenpretty: hi sweetz enjoying your new freedom

Maybe tomorrow, if my eye grows back.
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Gravatarsittenpretty: hi sweetz enjoying your new freedom

Maybe tomorrow, if my eye grows back.
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 9:05 pm | #

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wha hoppened?


GravatarSnow:

Plus, Toby admitted to being all talk and no walk. Like a fucking coward.

So, not only do you acknowledge (and, apparently, believe) that I have never burned a dog alive, but you also condemn me for expressing murderous hatred because I didn't act upon it?

You're some sort of goddamned idiot.


Gravatarsmalfish: Rookies missing field goals is not a good idea.

Yeah... he's cut.

Why would you be interested in this game? Oh, it's in HD.
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GravatarUSA! USA! USA!

This chant, oddly, makes me feel ever so patriotic.


GravatarToby really hates it when we bring up his penchant for burning dogs. That amuses me.


Gravatar"'...I'm here to help you tie teenage girls behind vans and drag them along on their stomachs.'"
--Phila,

How disgust is that? Why would anyone do that? Scum of the earth.


GravatarRepublicans are having trouble tabulating the results of the straw poll. This is surprising considering they used Diebold scan machines.


Gravatarsittenpretty: wha hoppened?

Dunno. Scratched it, this morning. Something was in it, thought I flushed it out, but no. It's pretty terrible, but I heal well, and quickly.
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GravatarIts getting to the point where maybe we need to drag Texas behind a truck.


GravatarPersonally, I see no contradiction in condemning Toby both for having sociopathic fantasies *and* for not having the courage of his convictions.


GravatarHow disgust is that? Why would anyone do that?

YOU WILL SUBMIT TO THE WILL OF JEEZZUS!!


Gravatarmer:

Why would anyone do that? Scum of the earth.

Because they know that hippie morans are opposed to capital punishment and that they might actually get off lightly or away with it altogether.


Gravatar"Comment by Toby Petzold | blocked. [unkill]​[show comment]"

Oh, look, the little fuckwad has shown up.

Just in time for all and sundry to ignore his stupidity.

Fuck off and die, Toby.


Gravatarsittenpretty: wha hoppened?

Dunno. Scratched it, this morning. Something was in it, thought I flushed it out, but no. It's pretty terrible, but I heal well, and quickly.
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 9:08 pm | #

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do you have any of LEs eye ointment left? if so use it


GravatarWOODS SEIZES CONTROL AT SOUTHERN HILLS

Woods is 12-0 when going into the final round of major with at least a share of the lead, and he has never lost any tournament when leading by more than one shot after 54 holes.


GravatarBecause they know that hippie morans are opposed to capital punishment and that they might actually get off lightly or away with it altogether.


You're an idiot.


Gravatar"YOU WILL SUBMIT TO THE WILL OF JEEZZUS!!"
--smalfish

Only because I was so mad and forgot to add an ing to the word disgust.


GravatarTucker, if you weren't an insecure loser, you wouldn't have to use techno-trickery to filter your world for you.

Godforsaken wanker.


GravatarI also am happy to condemn Toby for pretending that anyone is dissuaded from awful behavior because of fear of punishment, or that anyone is encouraged to act in awful ways by others' feeling that killing people is wrong.


GravatarBecause they know that hippie morans are opposed to capital punishment

Like the former Republican/b> governor of Illinois?

Granted, he may be in prison himself by now, but still...


GravatarToby really hates it when we bring up his penchant for burning dogs. That amuses me.
NTodd, God'sGiftToDouchebags | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 9:08 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


I suppose I could bring up his unbelievably ignorant or dishonest claim that progressives are "incapable" of advocating women's rights in the Muslim world. But I don't really care all that much.


GravatarWell, damn.


GravatarIf practice makes perfect, the Titans and Redskins will have the best special teams in the league.


GravatarJeff:

[...]or that anyone is encouraged to act in awful ways by others' feeling that killing people is wrong.

Huh?


Gravatarhate when one of my children don't have health insurance. He is a healthy 28-year-old--but you never know. Thanks again.
mer


mer! 28? It'll be CHEAP for him! I mean, really, really, really cheap! It's for old people like me that it becomes mildly expensive. gwpda at gwpda dot org or cd078 at faradic dot com
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Gravatarthe results f the GOP Iowa "straw poll" have so far been delayed 1 1/2 hours because of "problems" counting the 14,000 votes.

It just goes to show you can't trust Republicans to count votes, not even their own.


Gravatarsmalfish: If practice makes perfect, the Titans and Redskins will have the best special teams in the league.


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GravatarI love killfile. Why, because it pisses off Toby and his ilk to no end.

Suck it, PutzHold. Suck it hard, you pathetic little shitmonkey.


GravatarGreat example, Pie. That lousy bastard commuted all the death row sentences because he wanted to score points weith the liberals. Period.

Like a political deathbed conversion to pave the way to ideological heaven.


Gravatarthe results f the GOP Iowa "straw poll" have so far been delayed 1 1/2 hours because of "problems" counting the 14,000 votes.

Hilarious.


GravatarToby really hates killfile, too. That amuses me as much as reminding people that he loves lighting dogs on fire.


GravatarAt least we beat Swaziland!

http://rawstory.com/showoutartic...ter%3Fmode% 3DPF


Gravatarthe results f the GOP Iowa "straw poll" have so far been delayed 1 1/2 hours because of "problems" counting the 14,000 votes.

Geez, wan't that one of "the 14 indications that you know you're in a fascist state when..."?
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GravatarWhy is Tucker so angry at me? Does he even have a right to fling his monkey shit at me if he literally doesn't know what I'm saying?

What a pathetic little child.


GravatarThat lousy bastard commuted all the death row sentences because he wanted to score points weith the liberals. Period.

Well, not exactly, Tobes.

Ever heard of DNA testing?


GravatarPersonally, I see no contradiction in condemning Toby both for having sociopathic fantasies *and* for not having the courage of his convictions.
JeffCO | 08.11.07 - 9:09 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


Toby doesn't have any convictions. He's got fear and defensiveness and not much else.


GravatarToby admires Michael Vick.


Gravatar'TechnoTrickery'? Wasn't that the name of Kraftwerks last album.
Maybe not.
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GravatarI'll say it slowly for you, Toby: your pretending that my thinking killing people is wrong (including when the state does it) somehow magically encourages sociopaths such as yourself to go ahead and commit atrocities is ludicrous on its face and betrays your lack of seriousness.


GravatarFisher throws the red flag. In a pre-season game!
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GravatarI feel bad about the miners and all, but, our troops that have been blown up in the interim have hardly rated a 1 second news scroll.


GravatarComment by Toby Petzold | Homepage blocked. [unkill]​[show comment]

Heh.


GravatarAt least we beat Swaziland!

Is this the story about the U.S. being 42nd in life expectancy?

Fortyfuckingsecond.

Unbelievable.


GravatarToby is very serious. Seriously disturbed.


GravatarMichael Vick? The only thing I took away from that headline was Robert Byrd's KKK-like speech in condemnation of him.

Boy, I'll bet that was the first money shot that old man's taken in years!


GravatarToby doesn't have any convictions. He's got fear and defensiveness and not much else.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 9:18 pm | #

Actually, he's been convicted of being annoying in 36 states.


GravatarFisher throws the red flag. In a pre-season game!
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 9:19 pm | #

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did you read my eye ointment comment?


GravatarIs this the story about the U.S. being 42nd in life expectancy?


Gravatarsittenpretty: did you read my eye ointment comment?

Of course!
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GravatarIs this the story about the U.S. being 42nd in life expectancy?

But we have the most profitable health care industry on the planet!


GravatarJeff, the second draft's really no better, son. You wasted several minutes of your life just then that you ain't getting back. Please try to prioritize a little better.


GravatarI have been informed via IM, that Toby PutzHold has been taking my name in vain.

What a Moran! He's railing at me, knowing full well I'm not seeing a word he says.

HAW! HAW! HAW!


GravatarUnbelievable.
pie | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 9:20 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


You should be grateful! High child mortality and low life expectancy are deterrents against violent crime.


GravatarBut we have the most profitable health care industry on the planet!



GravatarToby doesn't have any convictions. He's got fear and defensiveness and not much else. Phila

Sure, but my point was that even if he did, it would not be a contradiction to condemn him for not having the courage of them.


Gravatari have a crappy migraine ....and no meds


GravatarI don't suppose anyone's interested in oven fried chicken, mac salad, four bean salad, farm fresh corn, garlic bread, and chocolate chip cream pie.

With choice of beverage, naturally.


Gravatar-- A relatively high percentage of babies born in the U.S. die before their first birthday, compared with other industrialized nations.

Culture of life! Culture of life!


GravatarActually, he's been convicted of being annoying in 36 states.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi | 08.11.07 - 9:21 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


I mostly feel sorry for him. What a way to have to live.


GravatarSay, that killfile business is really contributing to the day room at the old folks' home vibe in here.

Dirty hippies.


Gravatarsittenpretty: i have a crappy migraine ....and no meds

I sorry. Wish I could help. Accupressure?

I'll be heaing to bed, soon. That's always good for what ails me.
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GravatarIs this the story about the U.S. being 42nd in life expectancy?



But we have the most profitable health care industry on the planet!

I believe there's a correlation here.  A negative one.


GravatarToby never fails to crack me up. He actually revels in his inanity.


GravatarSure, but my point was that even if he did, it would not be a contradiction to condemn him for not having the courage of them.
JeffCO | 08.11.07 - 9:23 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


Point taken.


Gravatarim going to ice my head

nite nite


GravatarI don't suppose anyone's interested in oven fried chicken, mac salad, four bean salad, farm fresh corn, garlic bread, and chocolate chip cream pie.


If you don't have any beans and hot dogs, I'm out.


GravatarI don't suppose anyone's interested in oven fried chicken, mac salad, four bean salad, farm fresh corn, garlic bread, and chocolate chip cream pie.

DROOOOOL.


GravatarI don't understand why Jeff is trying to out-Snow Snow.


GravatarSallyh, I worked late and didn't get to cook dinner tonight (although I had a small brioche and coffee earlier from a neat little local coffee shop).

I'll be right over.


Gravatar-- A relatively high percentage of babies born in the U.S. die before their first birthday, compared with other industrialized nations.


I blame abortion.


Gravatarcounting the 14,000 votes.

i was just reading elsewhere that the expectations were for 30,000 turning out. this is waaaaaayyyyy below projections -- perhaps a sign of republican disnechantment...?


GravatarStupid fucking Iowa Republicans can't even conduct a simple star poll. Id there anything the GOP can't fuck up?


GravatarI believe there's a correlation here. A negative one.

Don't have to be a statistician to figure that one out.


GravatarThe conversation about class won't return until somebody figures out a way to let blu collar folk rule. Rich folk rule the democratic party and they won't talk about class because they know their lives suck.


GravatarOh the votes are coming in now at the Iowa Caucus.

14, 000 votes

Romney 4516
Huckabee 2,587
Brownbeck 2,192
Tancredo 1,961
Paul 1,305
Tommy Thompason 1,039
Fred Thompson 203
Giuliani 183
Hunter 174
McCain 101
Cox 41


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!~


GravatarYou all were right. Shoe is a fucking coward. And an asshole. I've seen his true colors, and he is nothing but a coward. I am sorry to you all, I trusted in him and I got the shaft, I got fucked, I got shit on, I got treated worse than anyone should ever treat another person. I should never have defended him, he would nver defend me. He has used me and I am nothing but a fool.

I am sorry. I have been nothing but stupid. He's had me so fucked up, I don't know what is what, if I am coming or going, or truly anything other than wondering all the time what I will do to piss him off and set him off.

Please forgive me, even if you still hate me, I am sorry.


Gravatar[knock, knock]

This thing still working?


GravatarToby lecturing anybody on prioritization is almost as amusing as seeing him killfiled.


GravatarI mostly feel sorry for him. What a way to have to live.

Used to be respectable folk'd have to travel many miles and pay 4 bits to see the dog-faced boy and the geek rub their own shit in their hair, rip apart live chickens, and scream "Look At ME!!"

Now they come here do it for free in your computer.

And so ended the delicate economy of the circus freak show...


GravatarActually, I do think Toby has a point - I'm fairly certain *he* is dissuaded from acting out his sociopathy by his fear of being caught and punished. That others might not seek to hurt others simply because they have no desire to must sound like a goddamn lie to him.


GravatarStupid fucking Iowa Republicans can't even conduct a simple star poll. Id there anything the GOP can't fuck up?
The Old Man From Scene 24 | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 9:28 pm | #

They could fuck up a one man parade.


GravatarThe conversation about class won't return until somebody figures out a way to let blu collar folk rule. Rich folk rule the democratic party and they won't talk about class because they know their lives suck.

Even so, Larry the cable guy does not speak for me.


Gravatari was just reading elsewhere that the expectations were for 30,000 turning out. this is waaaaaayyyyy below projections -- perhaps a sign of republican disnechantment...?

SPIN CENTRAL is working overtime.



Gravatari was just reading elsewhere that the expectations were for 30,000 turning out. this is waaaaaayyyyy below projections -- perhaps a sign of republican disnechantment...?

I was wandering how this stacked up to previous years, as 14,000 sounded low to me. Wouldn't it be a shame if the GOP continued to implode for the foreseeable future?


GravatarJeff:

That others might not seek to hurt others simply because they have no desire to must sound like a goddamn lie to him.

Only a sociopath would look down on others for having human thoughts and feelings. That's what you're saying. You regard yourself as super-rational. In fact, you are delusional.


GravatarToby lecturing anybody on prioritization is almost as amusing as seeing him killfiled.

Killfile is way more fun!  I just killfiled your stalker


GravatarI have been nothing but stupid.

I don't think truer words have ever been spoken here.


GravatarActually, I do think Toby has a point - I'm fairly certain *he* is dissuaded from acting out his sociopathy by his fear of being caught and punished. That others might not seek to hurt others simply because they have no desire to must sound like a goddamn lie to him.
JeffCO | 08.11.07 - 9:29 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


Absolutely. And here you're getting into what's wrong with the Right in general. They naturally assume that what scares them scares other people. They'd blab if tortured, for instance, so they assume everyone else will. Hence, torture "works."


GravatarYou're right.


GravatarIsn't this the beginning of the Iowa state fair?

Maybe the folks are more interested in two headed pigs than that sorry lot.


GravatarI don't suppose anyone's interested in oven fried chicken, mac salad, four bean salad, farm fresh corn, garlic bread, and chocolate chip cream pie.

With choice of beverage, naturally.

Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere


I'm on my THIRD ear of Olathe sweet corn with butter, lemon pepper and parmesan. But 'enkew!
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GravatarI can't take Toby's comments seriously, no matter how hard he tries. He makes me laugh.


GravatarComment by annieangel blocked. [unkill]​[show comment]

I love the killfile!


GravatarRomney 4516
Huckabee 2,587
Brownbeck 2,192



Words fail me.



GravatarHuckabee is a bigger story than Romney.

Giuliani, Thompson & McCain's totals are still hilarious, even though they didn't try.

Mitt spent millions to get a blow out and he came nowhere close.

And only 14,000 votes, that's WAY below the totals in 2000


GravatarThe conversation about class won't return until somebody figures out a way to let blu collar folk rule. Rich folk rule the democratic party and they won't talk about class because they know their lives suck.

Even so, Larry the cable guy does not speak for me.



I don't want Larry either. But riddle me this: how many non millionaires are there in congress?


GravatarYou know I'm losing my agnsoticism about global warming? Because of the commie assholes who make it into the new fascism.


GravatarSchmuckabee.


GravatarBjorn: They could fuck up a one man parade.

As well as the shortarm inspection prior to the parade.
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GravatarToby lecturing anybody on prioritization is almost as amusing as seeing him killfiled.

It's kinda funny that he pretends he's ever contributed anything here that didn't amount to the proverbial turd in the punchbowl. Like killfiling him was somehow a loss of an alternative view. When I want his opinion I'll watch Triumph of the Will, which gets his perspective across much more artfully.


Gravatar
Maybe the folks are more interested in two headed pigs than that sorry lot.


I'd say the butter cow, but it's melting...


GravatarI don't suppose anyone's interested in oven fried chicken, mac salad, four bean salad, farm fresh corn, garlic bread, and chocolate chip cream pie.

With choice of beverage, naturally.

Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere


Always good eatin' (and drinkin') at Chez H!


GravatarAnd only 14,000 votes, that's WAY below the totals in 2000

LMAO!


GravatarI can't take Toby's comments seriously, no matter how hard he tries. He makes me laugh.
mer | 08.11.07 - 9:33 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


He makes me feel a little sad. But mostly tired.


GravatarBut riddle me this: how many non millionaires are there in congress?

I'm guess few to none, but that too is as our landed gentry founding fathers had it.


GravatarI don't suppose anyone's interested in oven fried chicken, mac salad, four bean salad, farm fresh corn, garlic bread, and chocolate chip cream pie.

Mmmm.

Gastroporn.


GravatarThere are still commies?


GravatarGhouliani knockin' them dead out there!


GravatarPhila:

They'd blab if tortured, for instance, so they assume everyone else will. Hence, torture "works."

I think we should be pumping the Islamofascists full of LSD. The CIA used to do that sort of thing, so why not now?


GravatarBecause of the commie assholes who make it into the new fascism.

Veerrrrrrrrrrrrry interesting perspective there, Tobes.

Mother Nature laughs at the "Master Race."

Just sayin'.


Gravatarabcnews: ROMNEY WINS IOWA GOP STRAW POLL WITH 31.5 PERCENT OF THE VOTE; HUCKABEE FINISHES SECOND


GravatarChris Mooney on Cspan.


GravatarMcCain 101



McCain was seen thumbing a ride back to Arizona.


Gravatar2000 GOP Straw Poll had about 25,000 voters

2008 straw poll, 14,000

Plus 2008 was delayed for an hour and a half because of a lousy voting computer voting machine. Learn a lesson Republicans.


GravatarI'm guess few to none, but that too is as our landed gentry founding fathers had it.


It is a flaw in the constitution. It must be righted, but never will.


GravatarWhat the fuck is a straw poll?


GravatarI admire Riefenstahl, but not for her Nazism, which I obviously reject.

What a poorly slapped together strawman.


GravatarThere are still commies?

Yes.

I have it on good authority that everyone to the left of Brownback's wanking hand is a dirty marxist.


GravatarChris/tx: McCain was seen thumbing a ride back to Arizona.

I bet that's closer to the truth than Grumpy McPouchy would like to admit.
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Gravatarand what are we drinking chez voltaire ce soir?

equal parts
- red port
- bourbon whisky
- water
pour over ice
ignore complaints about ruining the good port


i call it "Blood on the Playa"

cheers!
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GravatarYou regard yourself as super-rational. In fact, you are delusional.

Actually, I regard myself as superfly. I'm gonna make my fortune by and by, but if I lose, don't ask no questions why. The only game I know is Do or Die.


Gravatar"Comment by annieangel blocked. [unkill]​[show comment]"

Swell, Allan the schizo asswipe. is having a breakdown.

Well, not that I'll be seeing anymore of it!


Gravatarabcnews: ROMNEY WINS IOWA GOP STRAW POLL WITH 31.5 PERCENT OF THE VOTE; HUCKABEE FINISHES SECOND

Your Liberal Media ™

How about including "TURNOUT DOWN BY OVER 50 PERCENT" ?


GravatarWhat the fuck is a straw poll?
alps | 08.11.07 - 9:37 pm | #

Its for toothless strippers.


GravatarThe CIA used to do that sort of thing, so why not now?

It doesn't work?


GravatarPie, you know full well that the Gorebots and RFK, Jrs. of this world are Gaiists. With as much fervor as any other zealot.


Gravatar3. Sen. Sam Brownback with 2192 votes and 15.3%


GravatarI knew a few commies back in the day. Serious types who wore berets and handed out a bunch of literature. But I don't think I've met an actual commie for over ten years now.


Gravatar"What the fuck is a straw poll?"

Something that tickles Toby's fancy.

Anally.


GravatarI use a meter stick.
NTodd, God'sGiftToDouchebag

"How deep is your love"?


GravatarLike killfiling him was somehow a loss of an alternative view. When I want his opinion I'll watch Triumph of the Will, which gets his perspective across much more artfully.
JeffCO | 08.11.07 - 9:34 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


Come now. How else could we possibly get the conventional wisdom on Iraq? I mean, besides visiting the Corner, or turning on the TV, or talking to Bush-fancying family members or co-workers, or reading the batshit-crazy wingnut arguments that are constantly quoted or linked to on our favorite blogs?


GravatarWhat the fuck is a straw poll?

It's what goes up a GOP strawman's ass to keep him on-message.


Gravatara straw poll is where you pay people to come and stay over the weekend at a nice plush hotel and vote for you. He who has the most money wins.


GravatarWhat's this? A Toby and an annie in my Killfile trap!


GravatarMcCain 101.

Sounds like some kind of freshman introductory course.


GravatarAnd a Coke for Chris Tucker...


GravatarSchmuckabee presents a mighty challenge to Tweety's man crash proclivities.


GravatarWhat the fuck is a straw poll?

it a fund raiser for the state GOP where people travel to a certain location and pay $35 (IIRC) to vote for a particular candidate. Its considered an indicator of early support and organization for the candidates.


GravatarI, for one, am glad that Iraq is now a stunning success. Surely this means we can leave now, right?


GravatarBut I don't think I've met an actual commie for over ten years now.
Moe Szyslak, hating coal | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 9:39 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


I threatened one with violence at an anti-war march in 1991. One of those Trotskyite goons from the RCP. Wanted me to sign a pledge of solidarity with Saddam.


GravatarJP - I guess you saw Hecate's posting a few days ago about McCain - Instead of buying carbon offsets, he turned off the AC in his campaign offices at night. I don't think McCain will make it to the first primary.


GravatarI knew a few commies back in the day. Serious types who wore berets and handed out a bunch of literature. But I don't think I've met an actual commie for over ten years now.
Moe Szyslak, hating coal | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 9:39 pm | #


not easy to find them even here in ze pippleses respublic of brzzzzzerkley

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GravatarHeehee! Toby's going to not believe in global warming because he feels guilty about it, but he's going to...BLAME US FOR IT! HAHAHA!

Yes, the serious face of intellectually honest conservatives.


GravatarThey have to PAY to vote for those dingleberries! LOL LOL!!


GravatarLearn a lesson Republicans.

IF they were capable of learning lessons they wouldn't still be Republicans.


GravatarBut I don't think I've met an actual commie for over ten years now.

I talked to a couple LaRouchians in the 80s. Their dogmatism went to 11.


GravatarMoe Szyslak, Hi. You back home? Several early morning people have been pining for you.


GravatarSpeaking of poorly constructed strawmen, I believe Toby's gonna be entertaining us all night. Must've gotten into Mom's Mad Dog 20-20...


Gravatar"And a Coke for Chris Tucker..."

Thank you! Diet, please.


GravatarIt's terrible, but true: I find myself rejecting the truth of global warming because of the stupidity and hypocrisy and outright ignorance of those decrying it most.


GravatarNo psychologically normal person would spend time trolling a message board.


Gravataryou know full well that the Gorebots and RFK, Jrs. of this world are Gaiists. With as much fervor as any other zealot.

I love teh Gaiists.

a straw poll is where you pay people to come and stay over the weekend at a nice plush hotel and vote for you. He who has the most money wins.

Plush hotel in Ames? The Holiday Inn was nice when we lived there.


GravatarSpeaking of poorly constructed strawmen, I believe Toby's gonna be entertaining us all night. Must've gotten into Mom's Mad Dog 20-20...

Ah.

Night Train...After Dark.


GravatarYes, the serious face of intellectually honest conservatives.

Not a reactionary bone in that boy's body. "Whatever lieberlz are for, I'm against, cos they suck!"


GravatarToby admits: he's a terrible human being and loves to fuck strawmen.


Gravatarit a fund raiser for the state GOP where people travel to a certain location and pay $35 (IIRC) to vote for a particular candidate. Its considered an indicator of early support and organization for the candidates.


It sounds like a false flag operation. Just another way to rig elections, I guess.


GravatarHey mer. Yep, got back late last night, but had a speaking commitment to prepare for today. (Just returned from that.) I'll stop by in the a.m. for a howdy.


GravatarNice life philosophy - rejecting the truth! You'll go far.


GravatarSounds like some kind of freshman introductory course.

McCain 101: An introductions to Failed Presidential Candidates.


GravatarI call you people commies because you fetishize the state and believe ---against all evidence--- in egalitarianism. Or you play at it, anyway.


GravatarMust've gotten into Mom's Mad Dog 20-20...

What did Carville say about "waving a hundred dollar bill in a trailer park"...


GravatarNight Train...After Dark.
driftglass | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 9:44 pm | #

Quarts of Olde English!


GravatarI threatened one with violence at an anti-war march in 1991. One of those Trotskyite goons from the RCP. Wanted me to sign a pledge of solidarity with Saddam.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint


Oh yeah, I've had trouble with those types in San Francisco. They used to get pissed off when I wouldn't take their pamphlets (usually because I was too busy/in a hurry/etc....I guess that meant I was dancing to the tune of the Man.)


GravatarRest assured, Tobes: no one thinks of you as an equal.


GravatarToby keeps fucking the strawman, but only because he got it drunk.


Gravatar"One candidate, former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney, has assembled an unrivaled operation for the event: a statewide corps of 60 "super-volunteers," who have been paid between $500 and $1,000 per month to talk him up; a fleet of buses; more than $2 million in television ads in Iowa; a sleek direct-mail campaign; and a consultant who has been paid nearly $200,000 to direct Romney's straw poll production, which will include barbecue billed as the best in the state.[...]

Romney, a former venture capitalist and multimillionaire who has lent his campaign $9 million of his own money, has hired buses to travel the state, picking up supporters. It will cost his campaign hundreds of thousands of dollars to pay the entry fee when they arrive. Romney snared the prime spot for his tent -- space at the event is auctioned off by the state GOP -- reportedly by bidding $10,000 more than rivals.[...]

A Democratic source who has tracked Romney's ad buys said Romney had spent about $2.4 million on TV ads in Iowa, beginning in February and running consistently since May. The source estimated Romney had spent an additional $2.5 million on campaign materials other than television in the state.[...]

But Romney is waging what amounts to a one-sided financial war, bidding himself up against candidates who have raised less money during the entire campaign to date than Romney is likely to spend just for the straw poll."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp...7080902379.html


GravatarI talked to a couple LaRouchians in the 80s. Their dogmatism went to 11.

They're still here in small numbers. Working busy intersections with "Impeach Cheney" signs.

Gotta give 'em props for focus; you don't see the Dems here doing that.


GravatarInstead of buying carbon offsets, he turned off the AC in his campaign offices at night.

Here in Phoenix? See, 'cause that makes a certain amount of sense. I'm running the juice now between about 2pm and 11pm, myself. But tomorrow is scheduled to be 109+, so....


GravatarCome now. How else could we possibly get the conventional wisdom on Iraq?

The deepest thoughts I've ever seen Toby post here somehow always reduce to "Pull my finger." Nah gahna doit.


GravatarHeehee! Toby's going to not believe in global warming because he feels guilty about it, but he's going to...BLAME US FOR IT! HAHAHA!

Yes, the serious face of intellectually honest conservatives.
NTodd, God'sGiftToDouchebags | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 9:42 pm | # [kill]​


Didn't know he was a denialist. I'm a little surprised...always had him pegged for one of those science-respecting wingnuts.


GravatarToby loves his robber baron overlords.


GravatarThey're still here in small numbers. Working busy intersections with "Impeach Cheney" signs. Gotta give 'em props for focus; you don't see the Dems here doing that.

See Toby, *that's* having the courage of your convictions.


GravatarOh yeah, I've had trouble with those types in San Francisco. They used to get pissed off when I wouldn't take their pamphlets (usually because I was too busy/in a hurry/etc....I guess that meant I was dancing to the tune of the Man.)
Buzz Bomb | 08.11.07 - 9:45 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


Well, this happened at Dolores Park. So there ya go.


Gravatarit a fund raiser for the state GOP where people travel to a certain location and pay $35 (IIRC) to vote

Wow, instead they could have had a nice dinner for 2 at the Cracker Barrel.
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GravatarI'm a little surprised...always had him pegged for one of those science-respecting wingnuts.

He puts on airs, but when push comes to shove, he'll reject anything that is advocated by commies, then to justify it, he'll call them commie fascist bastard people.


GravatarPeople
Who champion the cause
Of making Dubya into America's Sun King
Shouldn't really
Talk about
Other people's
Imaginary
Totalitarian
Habits.


GravatarToby loves his robber baron overlords.
smalfish,suspect at all times | 08.11.07 - 9:47 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


Go team go!


GravatarRip off the wings of a butterfly.


GravatarLooks like Charlie's got his stuff together. Namestealing, anyone?


GravatarDidn't know he was a denialist. I'm a little surprised...always had him pegged for one of those science-respecting wingnuts.

IIRC, he used to claim he preferred his air and water not be toxic. But now he seems to be saying that if DFH are going to insist on the environment not being destroyed then goddamit he's going to personally produce as much methane as humanly possible.


GravatarToby Petzold! I loved you as Gimli in LOTR!


GravatarI once bought a fifth of Night Train. Poured it out at once.

I bought it for the label. The image of the old steam engine is gorgeous.

http://www.ghettowine.com/pics/n...ighttrain/ 2.jpg


Gravatara statewide corps of 60 "super-volunteers," who have been paid between $500 and $1,000 per month to talk him up; a fleet of buses; more than $2 million in television ads in Iowa; a sleek direct-mail campaign; and a consultant who has been paid nearly $200,000 to direct Romney's straw poll production, which will include barbecue billed as the best in the state.

4516 votes.


GravatarThe actual commies aren't much into talking about global warming.


GravatarYes, now the laughable charges of namestealing from the troll. I can almost set my clock to their behavior patterns.


GravatarThe actual commies aren't much into talking about global warming.
Moe Szyslak, hating coal

Ain't that the truth!


GravatarMittster is doing an admirable job of beating up on giuliani

never interfere when your enemies are fighting each other...
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GravatarThe actual commies aren't much into talking about global warming.

The New Soviet Man will be invulnerable to mere nature


GravatarWhat is it with wingnuts and their insistence that everyone else acts out all these secret shameful fetishes?

Yes, that was a rhetorical question.


GravatarHe puts on airs, but when push comes to shove, he'll reject anything that is advocated by commies, then to justify it, he'll call them commie fascist bastard people.
NTodd, God'sGiftToDouchebags | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 9:49 pm | # [kill]​


Well, people like him are kind of over a barrel, at this point. Concede one point, and everything starts unraveling. Kinda like when the crooked senator in "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington" yells, "If he's a little bit right, I'm all wrong!"


Gravatarmore than $2 million in television ads in Iowa;

holy crap -- what could ad buys cost in iowa... must have been the mittster on your screen 24/7.


Gravatar
McCain 101: An introductions to Failed Presidential Candidates.


Lesson #1: once you've portrayed yourself as a "maverick", you can't get the religious loony base into your corner no matter how much you whore yourself to try and win their approval. All McCain managed to do with his attempted dick-sucking was alienate the relative moderates who had been his primary supporters in the past. That, and humiliate himself in the process.


GravatarNo one's namestolen me yet, but it's only a matter of time until one of you loses it.


GravatarWould someone please come and get me?


GravatarWhat is it with wingnuts and their insistence that everyone else acts out all these secret shameful fetishes?

we're all going to have to become gay communist tax-raising bureaucrats to fulfill their straw man fantasies

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GravatarGWPDA - The article Hecate quoted from does not say which offices:

http:// hecatedemetersdatter.blog...esidential.html

Just says he did not buy any offsets like others, but was cutting off AC when no one in office. Makes sense, but kinda funny in context...


GravatarWell, people like him are kind of over a barrel, at this point. Concede one point, and everything starts unraveling. Kinda like when the crooked senator in "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington" yells, "If he's a little bit right, I'm all wrong!"
Phila


I think many of the 25% crowd are in that boat. They have too much psychologically to lose to admit that they were wrong.


GravatarOne cat sleeping, one awake.
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GravatarIIRC, he used to claim he preferred his air and water not be toxic. But now he seems to be saying that if DFH are going to insist on the environment not being destroyed then goddamit he's going to personally produce as much methane as humanly possible.
JeffCO | 08.11.07 - 9:51 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


I'm telling you...if we want to rid the country of its most virulent wingnuts, all we have to do is have Al Gore and Hillary Clinton hold a press conference on the dangers of drinking Liquid Plumbr.


Gravatartrifecta:

They have too much psychologically to lose to admit that they were wrong.

Wrong about global warming? Speaking of dogma!


GravatarHow the hell do you think I'm going to MEET the next Mrs NTodd?

Why not the next Mr. What's Her Name?


GravatarIt would be fun to see Toby as that Senator in Mel Gibson's version of Mr Smith...


GravatarOne cat sleeping, one awake.

Cats on.

Cats off.

-- Mr. Meowgi


GravatarSo Mitt spend five million for less than five thousand votes, damn, that's a thousand a vote. I could have done that.


GravatarOne day, after we haven't seen Toby for a month or so, someone will turn up the small article from the back of the local paper, that Toby died from autoerotic asphyxiation.

While wearing his mother's lingerie.


GravatarThe actual commies aren't much into talking about global warming.

I am reminded of a tune by Madison's Swamp Thing - Beautiful Communists. IIRC it went something like this:

"Beautiful communists, on parade
You see them on May Day in their pretty red berets
Or in cafes,
Talking tea and revolution..."


GravatarOne cat sleeping, one awake.

technically, not enough syllables for a haiku, but we'll publish it anyway

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Gravatarputzold. Many of the denialists are just denying because of economics. They don't mean it. They believe in global warming, they just don't give a shit, they will be wealthy and then dead before it gets really bad.

They then convince rubes, such as yourself, that it's not going to happen.


GravatarI've got a $10 off coupon against a $100 purchase at www.hpshopping.com for anybody who needs it.
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GravatarDon't dis the dwarves. Cave troll is the species you are looking for in this case.


GravatarHAHAHA! Now he calls scientific consensus 'dogma'! Next: 1+1 does NOT equal 2, you damned Groupthinkers!


Gravatar
I think many of the 25% crowd are in that boat. They have too much psychologically to lose to admit that they were wrong.
trifecta | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 9:55 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


To be fair, it's not just psychological. I know people who are in those upper-management old-boy networks...dropping the rabid-right horseshit means you give up friendships, trust, your reputation for "good business sense"...it's not an easy thing to do, especially for people who often aren't exactly brimming over with confidence or character. For some people, it's really the only world they've ever known.


GravatarOne day, after we haven't seen Toby for a month or so, someone will turn up the small article from the back of the local paper, that Toby died from autoerotic asphyxiation.

Um...actually, you're mixing him up with me.


Gravatarputzold. Many of the denialists are just denying because of economics. They don't mean it. They believe in global warming, they just don't give a shit, they will be wealthy and then dead before it gets really bad.

Shorter wingnut: What the fuck have future generations ever done for me?


GravatarI'm watching a program on Science Channel about black holes.

The mood music is from such films as The Matrix and The Last Starfighter.

They SO know their viewing audience!


GravatarI don't want to start any arguments or anything, but, er, arguably, McCain is doing more good by reducing his GHG emissions in the first place, as compared to trying to offset them after the fact.


GravatarI'm watching the Design-Las Vegas competition. They should all be shot.
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GravatarHAHAHA! Now he calls scientific consensus 'dogma'! Next: 1+1 does NOT equal 2, you damned Groupthinkers!

Is 'e 'avin a laugh?


Gravatarespecially for people who often aren't exactly brimming over with confidence or character. For some people, it's really the only world they've ever known.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 10:01 pm | #


like nazis or kkk, they have a desperate need to feel superior to someone. they spend hours every day nurturing their strawman 'liberals' and then poking needles into them.

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GravatarI saw An Arctic Tale today. Really good w/o being too preachy. Emotionally illustrated global warming's immediate effects.


GravatarTerms like "denialist" presume that the thing being denied is an undeniable fact. Anyone here who believes that our climate is unprecedentedly warm on account of anthropogenicism is taking it as an article of faith that it so when they cannot honestly know that.

It's a religion with you people.


GravatarHAHAHA! Now he calls scientific consensus 'dogma'! Next: 1+1 does NOT equal 2, you damned Groupthinkers!
NTodd, God'sGiftToDouchebags | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 10:01 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


The Anchoress likes that line, too...she claims that the more people insist something is true, the less she believes it.

I suspect she'll be injecting herself with HIV any day now, to prove what a fraud "scientific consensus" is.


GravatarI'm watching a program on Science Channel about black holes.

I wish it wasn't so difficult to find channels on this Verizon FIOS system.


GravatarI know people who are in those upper-management old-boy networks...dropping the rabid-right horseshit means you give up friendships, trust, your reputation for "good business sense"...it's not an easy thing to do, especially for people who often aren't exactly brimming over with confidence or character. For some people, it's really the only world they've ever known.

Well, that is all psychological, I think. And I know all too well about that situ: I "should" have left Stef 2 years earlier, and "should" have quit my job 2 or 3 years ago, too.

I don't want to start any arguments or anything, but, er, arguably, McCain is doing more good by reducing his GHG emissions in the first place, as compared to trying to offset them after the fact.

I'd be more impressed if that were part of a comprehensive effort on his part to reduce his carbon footprint. Otherwise, I'm going to take people who do offsets AND make other efforts, using offsets to fill gaps in their "necessary" behaviors. Like Al Gore.


GravatarI don't want to start any arguments or anything, but, er, arguably, McCain is doing more good by reducing his GHG emissions in the first place, as compared to trying to offset them after the fact.
Moe Szyslak, hating coal


Moe, that was rather my question. You see, out here in the desert southwest, we are taught early on that turning off, not taking, not using, being thrifty is the way to preserve our resources. Thus, we do things that in the great scheme are counted as silly - turn off the water whilst you clean your teeth! - but in fact have a fairly good weight to them. Turning off the a/c, or turning it on way late in the day is one of the ways we are taught to believe has merit....
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GravatarBy and by, as of August 9 there is less Arctic sea ice than ever observed by humans. This year beats out the 2005 record, and there's still a month and a half of melt left.


Gravatarsmalfish: I wish it wasn't so difficult to find channels on this Verizon FIOS system.

Would this help?
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GravatarI don't want to start any arguments or anything, but, er, arguably, McCain is doing more good by reducing his GHG emissions in the first place, as compared to trying to offset them after the fact.

I don't want to start any blasphemous rumors, but I think McCain's got no sense of humor.


GravatarNow Tobes calls it a "religion"! Yup, pulling out all the stops.

GRAVITY = RELIGION. Gotcha.


GravatarI'm disappointed in Toby's climate thing, though. I knew he was nuts, I knew he was dishonest, and I knew he'd eat a skunk cooked in liquid pigshit before he'd admit being wrong. But I honestly didn't think he was stupid enough to be a climate "skeptic."


GravatarYou see, out here in the desert southwest, we are taught early on that turning off, not taking, not using, being thrifty is the way to preserve our resources.

Sorry, it ain't unique to the desert southwest. I got that lesson in good ole PA.


Gravatarit won't be too long before republicans will be blaming democrats for slowing down efforts to combat global climate change

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GravatarAnyone who wants to deny that warming is occurring. Go up to the Arctic in a boat and try to refute this. (scroll down to "Record July Arctic sea ice loss")
Then get back to us. Otherwise STFU.

Here's a little taste:
The melting of the Arctic sea ice will not raise ocean levels appreciably, since the ice is already floating in the ocean. However, it will bring warmer temperatures to the Arctic, which will accelerate the melting of the Greenland Ice Cap. This ice sheet holds enough water to raise sea level 20 feet--though much less melting is expected this century, with only a 0.6-1.9 foot sea level rise predicted. Loss of Arctic sea ice will also dramatically change the global weather and precipitation patterns. For example, the jet stream should move further north, bringing more precipitation to the Arctic, and more frequent droughts over the U.S. In any case, the reduced Artic sea ice should give us another delayed start to winter in the Northern Hemisphere this year.


GravatarI don't want to start any blasphemous rumors, but I think McCain's got no sense of humor.
JeffCO | 08.11.07 - 10:06 pm | #

And when I dye (my hair....Hair Hair Hair. Hair, beautiful Hair!!!!!!!!!!!!!).

Showing
Growing
Boeing
Cuz my Hair!!!!!!!!


GravatarGRAVITY = RELIGION. Gotcha.
NTodd, God'sGiftToDouchebags | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 10:06 pm | #

Intelligent falling.


GravatarTralfaz -- I'll take a locally brewed beer, s'il vous plait.


GravatarI'd be more impressed if that were part of a comprehensive effort on his part to reduce his carbon footprint.

I am willing to extend him credits for 5 1/2 years spent at the Hanoi Hilton.


GravatarIt's a religion with you people.

Religion is the opiate of the people.


GravatarCarbon offsets = purchases in the Treasury of Merit.

Y'all are so corrupt in your understanding of the climatological world that your new religion has emerged fully formed as Sixteenth Century Catholicism v. 2.0.

Nice going!


GravatarIntelligent falling.

And those who are dumb as rocks can levitate.


GravatarTerms like "denialist" presume that the thing being denied is an undeniable fact. Anyone here who believes that our climate is unprecedentedly warm on account of anthropogenicism is taking it as an article of faith that it so when they cannot honestly know that.

You're an idiot.


You go on believing what your media keeps telling you to believe. We all know you love being a slave to the machine with no returns.


GravatarMoe, it appears I owe you a tall cold one.


GravatarY'all ar--

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzz...


GravatarI don't want to start any blasphemous rumors, but I think McCain's got no sense of humor.

Manchurian candidates are humorless.


GravatarMoe, it appears I owe you a tall cold one.
Tralfaz


Er, two, actually.


GravatarMoe, it appears I owe you a tall cold one.
Tralfaz | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 10:10 pm | #

That's what Toby sez before he fellates a corpse


GravatarI met a boy named Gilly Gonzylon on August 11, right here in front of Eschaton, but now dad gone, I've lost his address! He was last seen with his friend, a commie, who resembles George Takai of Star Trek, and he wears his hair tied in a small bow at the back.


GravatarSorry, it ain't unique to the desert southwest. I got that lesson in good ole PA.
NTodd, God'sGiftToDouchebags


Well, you had to do it with that wet white stuff falling on ur haids.

But it's the same principle. Moderation is beneficial, extremity is not.


Gravatar...I honestly didn't think he was stupid enough to be a climate "skeptic."

Whatever comes over the blastfax...


GravatarNow Tobes calls it a "religion"! Yup, pulling out all the stops.

And the best thing is, it's all the product of his own rational thought. He came up with the religion line all by his widdle self.

"I recognise the surface of the earth is warmer and that an increase in greenhouse gases caused by humans is contributing to the problem." --George W. Bush


Gravatar"I wish it wasn't so difficult to find channels on this Verizon FIOS system."

Keep trying. They'll replay it later tonight.

Good stuff. Every galaxy that has a supermassive black hole at it's center, that black hole is always the same percentage of mass as the galaxy itself.

Something like one half of one percent.


GravatarTralfaz -- I'll take a locally brewed beer, s'il vous plait.
Moe Szyslak


If it's my locality, that would be a Blue Point, Southampton, or perhaps one of the fine Brooklyn Brewery offerings. Pretty good choices, actually.


GravatarMoe Szyslak, hating coal, so if only three white guys die in Utah, it's not such a big deal right?


GravatarThanks J.P.


GravatarI am willing to extend him credits for 5 1/2 years spent at the Hanoi Hilton.

Only if he held his breath.

Carbon offsets = purchases in the Treasury of Merit.

Wrong, but you go ahead and keep trying to pretend we don't need to invest in infrastructure, and charge hypocrisy so you can feel guilt free about not doing one fucking thing to combat the disaster you don't believe in, you intellectually dishonest dog killer.


GravatarCarbon offsets = purchases in the Treasury of Merit.

...just had to look at that one again. Truly priceless...


GravatarMoe Szyslak, hating coal, so if only three white guys die in Utah, it's not such a big deal right?
pie


Not sure what you're getting at.


GravatarBut it's the same principle. Moderation is beneficial, extremity is not.

Afuckingmen, sister. Uh, Auntie.


GravatarSo the biggest nutbags finished 2 and 3 in Iowa.


GravatarSo the biggest nutbags finished 2 and 3 in Iowa.

Actually good news for democrats.


GravatarThe biggest nutbag did not participate.


GravatarI'll be back later. I need to hydrate myself with limeade and Diet Coke for a while.

Keep poking the Toby with pointy liberal sticks in my absence.


GravatarNot sure what you're getting at.

Sorry. I think three of the people trapped are from Mexico, and I hate coal mine owners.

Three white men killed is nothing either, though.


GravatarAnyone who wants to deny that warming is occurring. Go up to the Arctic in a boat and try to refute this. (scroll down to "Record July Arctic sea ice loss")
Then get back to us. Otherwise STFU.


No, you STFU. Global warming is a religious cult created as part of a conspiracy between NASA, the UN, Al Gore, Billary Clinton, Rupert Murdoch, and the small group of malcontent scientists involved in the IPCC.

The earth isn't warming. And if it is, it's not anthropogenic (carbon isotopes notwithstanding). And besides, Al Gore's making it worse by taking too many airplanes.

Plus, warming is beneficial.


GravatarMet Office says world is warming up faster than at any time in 100 years

THE world is warming up faster than at any time in the past 100 years, according to a global climate forecast that reveals Britain will be 0.3C hotter by 2014.

Scientists at the Met Office's Hadley Centre have unveiled the first ten-year climate prediction model.

It shows at least half of the years 2009 to 2014 will be hotter than 1998, the warmest year on record. And their research predicts 2014 is likely to be 0.3C warmer globally than 2004. This is a sharp increase, as the average global temperature has risen by only 0.8C since 1900.


GravatarModeration is beneficial, extremity is not.

That's false. If it weren't for the stupidity of most people, there'd be a much lesser need for cops or firemen or bureaucrats or whoever else works in the interests of fixing other peoples' problems.

Civil society depends on aberrant or extreme behavior.


GravatarSo the biggest nutbags finished 2 and 3 in Iowa.

Actually, 1, 2, and 3.

But who's counting?


GravatarAh, heck, Tobes - do I really need to call the Austin ASPCA?
.


GravatarIf it weren't for the stupidity of most people, there'd be a much lesser need for cops or firemen or bureaucrats or whoever else works in the interests of fixing other peoples' problems.

Like Scooter Libby?


GravatarI think carbon offsets are overrated at best, and dangerous at worst.

Not sure what that has to do with the reality of AGW, though.


GravatarCivil society depends on aberrant or extreme behavior.

You just explained yourself.


GravatarPrickstein, what should I be doing right now in my own little way to stop or slow global warming?


GravatarNo, you STFU. Global warming is a religious cult created as part of a conspiracy between NASA, the UN, Al Gore, Billary Clinton, Rupert Murdoch, and the small group of malcontent scientists involved in the IPCC.


Besides, big oil is making gas cleaner! And if it wasn't for you libs, there'd be more gas available to pull our economy back up.


Gravatarpie-- there are so many things wrong with coal, it's hard to know where to begin.

But nowadays when people ask me what they should do about global warming, I tell them to join the effort to ban the construction of new coal-fired power plants, and get rid of the existing ones. A necessary and good place to start, and easily explained.


GravatarPlus, warming is beneficial.

Also, all the planets are warming because of increased solar winds.


GravatarPrickstein, what should I be doing right now in my own little way to stop or slow global warming?

Pull your head out of your ass.


GravatarShorter Toby: Moderation in the defense of sociopathy is no virtue.


Gravatar...what should I be doing right now in my own little way to stop or slow global warming?

Keep your motherfucking piehole shut, brownshirt.

End. Of. Story.


Gravatarevening bats

why is kim wilde on my monitor?


Gravatarwhat should I be doing right now in my own little way to stop or slow global warming?

Stop talking.


GravatarI'm gonna sue Atrios for only featuring white musicians!

This blog sucks! And it's not very exciting, either!


GravatarIt is true that we need aberrant behavior, lestwise we not need people to write killfiles.

Reminds me of Gary Oldman/Frederic Bastiat.


GravatarYou know, when modern temperature recording began in the Nineteenth Century, most people were still using outhouses and leeches and kerosene lanterns. I'm supposed to take for gospel truth their climate data?

We don't know shit.


GravatarWelp, I'm spent. Nighty!


GravatarMoe, when I moved to upstate New York, years and years and years ago, I tell you I was absolutely shocked at the retro nature of all varieties of power supply. I had absolutely no idea that current houses were heated by burning oil - that seemed to me even more old fashion than if they were heated with coal fires in the front parlor. I was aware, I suppose, that there were several major coal fired generators in the Southwest - but oil furnaces????? It was all right up there with discovering that the NE so deplored the use of hydro power that they favored the oil and coal business. Very, very strange.
.


GravatarToby's been Ayn Randed and neatly branded us communists cause we're left handed.


GravatarWe don't know shit.

Wrong pronoun.


GravatarNo, you STFU. Global warming is a religious cult created as part of a conspiracy between NASA, the UN, Al Gore, Billary Clinton, Rupert Murdoch, and the small group of malcontent scientists involved in the IPCC.

You left out the Illuminati, the Zionists, and the Church of the Sub-genius.


GravatarPrickstein, what should I be doing right now in my own little way to stop or slow global warming?

Do you really want to know, fat boy?


GravatarI'm supposed to take for gospel truth their climate data?


Yes


GravatarYou know, when modern temperature recording began in the Nineteenth Century, most people were still using outhouses and leeches and kerosene lanterns. I'm supposed to take for gospel truth their climate data?

Can anyone really be this stupid?

Really?

I think your trying to stir things up.


GravatarThere are too many fucking firemen in this country, and I for one am sick of paying fifty bucks a year to support the ones in my town.

Anyone stupid enough to let his house catch fire deserves what he gets.


GravatarPrickstein:

Do you really want to know, fat boy?

I asked, didn't I?


GravatarWe don't know shit.
Toby Petzold


Which is worse: to think GWarming is real, and act accordingly? Or to think it false, and continue as we have, unabated?


GravatarCan anyone really be this stupid?

Yes.

Really?

Yep.


Gravatarhere are so many things wrong with coal, it's hard to know where to begin.

I know that. It's just that people like my sil are going to be told that six people died, and she'll shrug her shoulders and say, "Oh, well. Six isn't that bad."


GravatarMitt Romney may have bought today's Iowa Republican Straw Poll, but history mercifully shows that the winner rarely ends up in the White House.

For the details, see:
"Flashback: Pat Robertson Wins 1987 Iowa Straw Poll."


GravatarYou know, when modern temperature recording began in the Nineteenth Century, most people were still using outhouses and leeches and kerosene lanterns. I'm supposed to take for gospel truth their climate data?

There was also an icepack on the North Pole, and snow on Kilimanjaro.

Now: not so much.

Just coincidence, probably.


GravatarI think carbon offsets are overrated at best, and dangerous at worst.

I think they are good tool in the toolkit, as Gore recommends.


GravatarIt was all right up there with discovering that the NE so deplored the use of hydro power that they favored the oil and coal business. Very, very strange.
.
GWPDA


Nowadays most of New England is buying, or scheming to buy, Quebec hydro. If certain plans come to fuition, they'll soon be buying power generated at a gigantic huge new dam at Churchill Falls in Labrador. Mixed bag, that. Not a great idea, imo.


Gravatar
I think your trying to stir things up.
smalfish,suspect at all times | 08.11.07 - 10:25 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


It's hard to believe he isn't, given how easy it would be for him to educate himself on this point.

And yet....


GravatarMy grandmother used to send us down to the basement to shovel coal into the furnace, no kidding.


GravatarI asked, didn't I?

So? You ask lots of things. Oddly, asking when calling me Prickstein makes me think you're...less than serious.


GravatarWhich is worse: to think GWarming is real, and act accordingly? Or to think it false, and continue as we have, unabated?

That is essentially what I believe, Jeffers, but it's the zealot assholes out there who give it a bad name.

Politics matter here when there are laws in need of writing.


GravatarOr to think it false, and continue as we have, unabated?

Just had a flashback of that Twilight Zone episode.


But I think it was cold at the end. Haven't seen it ever again after the first time.


GravatarI think they are good tool in the toolkit, as Gore recommends.
NTodd


he doesn't keep them in the lockbox?


GravatarI think they are good tool in the toolkit, as Gore recommends.
NTodd, God'sGiftToDouchebags | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 10:27 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


Yeah, we've had this conversation.


Gravatarsnow on Kilimanjaro

There may be snow on the peak, baby, but, uh, the fire next time!


GravatarHello.

Is Professor Wombat here?


GravatarMoe? Wouldn't you like me to come home with you?
.


Gravatarevening 4lg


GravatarEvening, all.

Anything egregious I should be aware of?


GravatarMeanwhile, speaking of Romney, I heard on the car radio that Thompson is planning to drop out tomorrow since he came in fifth. So where does that leave Julie-Annie, Big Daddy Fred, and Saint McCain, who all finished behind him?


GravatarMy grandmother used to send us down to the basement to shovel coal into the furnace, no kidding.
JeffCO | 08.11.07 - 10:28 pm | #

Luxury!

My grandmother use to shove us into the furnace! And we loved it!


GravatarI think they are good tool in the toolkit, as Gore recommends.
NTodd, God'sGiftToDouchebags | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 10:27 pm | # [kill]?[hide comment]


I dunno. I'm troubled by it.

I guess they're better than nothing.


GravatarMeanwhile, speaking of Romney, I heard on the car radio that Thompson is planning to drop out tomorrow since he came in fifth.

Was Thompson ever in?


GravatarAnything egregious I should be aware of?
DWD - Pain at Eight


um...just keep your small animals indoors tonight


Gravatarit's the zealot assholes out there who give it a bad name...

Brownshirts talking to the mirror... it never gets old!


GravatarGWPDA--

after much soul-searcing, I've decided against getting a dog. Just couldn't give it its due, with my lifestyle. At least for the present.


Gravatarevening 4lg

Hey Matthew, what's happening?


GravatarWhich is worse: to think GWarming is real, and act accordingly? Or to think it false, and continue as we have, unabated?
Rmj, Sylar's Evil Twin | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 10:26 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


Well, since thinking it's real would mean kowtowing to the archfiend Algore, the answer is simple.


GravatarIt's hard to believe he isn't, given how easy it would be for him to educate himself on this point.

Indeed, hence my skepticism about his question. If he's so fucking educated and intellectually honest, I would've expected him to have looked into the myriad ways he could mitigate his environmental impact.


GravatarWas Thompson ever in?

The other Thompson, Tommy.


GravatarNone of us is long-lived enough to know whether these things are cyclical or not.

Why is that not a possibility? The Sun has its cycles, the Earth has its seasons, and every last one of you knows better than the rest of us mouthbreathers the absolute truth of how the Earth transits through billions of years of natural being.

What laughable little pimples on the ass of Life you people are.


GravatarBut, Moe! That doggie? He could take care of you!
.


Gravatarafter much soul-searcing, I've decided against getting a dog. Just couldn't give it its due, with my lifestyle. At least for the present.

Get a pair of kittens.


GravatarLuxury! My grandmother use to shove us into the furnace! And we loved it!

We were never happier than on bituminous get one free day.


GravatarAny of youse DFHs seeing the shooting stars yet?


GravatarI dunno. I'm troubled by it.

Me too. But I think I understand where NTodd is coming from. It's a defensible position. Just one that makes me uncomfortable-- not because of what NTodd thinks about it, but because of where others will and do undoubtedly take it.


GravatarProblem with offsets is oversight. Kind of like toxic waste. Disposal is good, so long as it's done legally. But it isn't.

Carbon offsets sound great, but how do I really know you're offsetting my carbon usage? Kind of like buying "green" electricity. I keep expecting to find out I've been buying nuke generated power, without knowing it.

It's a question of trust. And of something being too true to be good.


Gravatarfourlegs:

I guess they're better than nothing.

Heretic.


GravatarShorter Toby: the world did not exist before I was born and will cease to exist when I die so fuck all y'all!


GravatarThat was a split infinitive within a split infinitive, or something like that.


GravatarIf he's so fucking educated and intellectually honest, I would've expected him to have looked into the myriad ways he could mitigate his environmental impact.

If I could apparate, I wouldn't need that new car.


Gravatar4lg...haven't been around much. Busy with a new project and spending most of my spare time in my new kayak.


Gravatarhttp://starbulletin.com/2007/07/...ness/ engle.html

THE call letters KUNT have landed at a yet-unbuilt low-power digital television station in Wailuku, Maui.
Alarmingly similar to a word the dictionary says is obscene, the call letters were among a 15-page list of new call letters issued by the Federal Communications Commission and released this week.

The same station owner also received KWTF for a station in Arizona.

From Skokie, Ill., comes a sincere apology "to anyone that was offended," said Kevin Bae, vice president of KM Communications Inc., who requested and received KUNT and KWTF. It is "extremely embarrassing for me and my company and we will file to change those call letters immediately."


GravatarWas Thompson ever in?

Apparently his campaign in Iowa was more effective than the three press-annointed "front runners."

Personally, I think the whole straw poll thing is a bunch of bullshit - but if the guy that finished above those three thinks it's time to fold up the tent, shouldn't the "gentlemen of the press" be peppering the people who finished below him about their own "viability"?


GravatarMoe:

Just one that makes me uncomfortable-- not because of what NTodd thinks about it, but because of where others will and do undoubtedly take it.

Translation:

Dissent from the group makes me nervous. I need to get some hot cocoa and rub my feet.


GravatarToby=Shoe

I mean, really. Get it together folks.


GravatarIf he's so fucking educated and intellectually honest, I would've expected him to have looked into the myriad ways he could mitigate his environmental impact.

Toby, I got four words for you:

DOBIE MALL RECRUITING OFFICE


GravatarYou know who was really full of shit? Tycho Brahe. "Accurate observations," my ass Fucker was drunk off his ass the whole time, and they didn't even have ballpoint pens back then.


GravatarYeah, we've had this conversation.

Yes, we've emitted quite a bit!

I dunno. I'm troubled by it.

I guess they're better than nothing.


No! They're not better than nothing! They are IN ADDITION TO SOMETHING!

Key bullet point: they are intended to fill gaps in behavior and help drive investment in long-term infrastructure.

Example: as much as I would not like to, I have to fly to DC tomorrow, otherwise my already-impoverished state becomes bad enough that I don't put food on my family. I've taken steps to reduce my carbon footprint, but am going to be basically farting into the atmo with my jet travel. How can I offset it? By looking giving money to an entity who is building facilities to generate "green" electricity, thus offsetting my negative impact in this instance.

It is not a substitute for change. It is a part of holistic, strategic change.


GravatarAyn Randed and neatly branded

I like it.


Gravatar4legs!
On HGTV right now, they're doing House Hunters in Santa Fe. Pretty neato.
.


Gravatar4lg...haven't been around much. Busy with a new project and spending most of my spare time in my new kayak.

Oh, nice.

I still haven't done the graphic I talked to you about.


GravatarSorry, I guess there was some confusion about which "Thompson" was dropping out after finishing fifth in the Iowa thang - it is Tommy Thompson.

"Big Daddy" Fred Thompson finished sixth - followed by Ghouliani and Saint McCain.


Gravatarthe absolute truth of how the Earth transits through billions of years of natural being.

Humans had coal-fired furnaces and power stations millions of years ago?

Who knew.


GravatarFrank Rich column from tomorrow if anyone is interested.

http://home.comcast.net/~veritas...s20001/ rich.htm


Gravatar
Politics matter here when there are laws in need of writing.


You're an idiot.

The only reason politics have to be involved is because of the robber barons.


GravatarYou know who was really full of shit? Tycho Brahe. "Accurate observations," my ass Fucker was drunk off his ass the whole time, and they didn't even have ballpoint pens back then.

And he didn't even have a proper nose, the violent motherfucker. Oh, not to mention he wouldn't share any information with that fucking astrologist cult guy, Kepler. Don't get me started on him, that son of a witch...


GravatarPrickstein:

[...]I would've expected him to have looked into the myriad ways he could mitigate his environmental impact.

No, you just chickened out when I asked you for ways I could take to make things better. You got nothing because your belief in it is merely partisan. It's another way you can feel morally superior to the consumerists who befoul the perimeter of your little WASPy clavern.


GravatarToby, you obviously haven't followed the heated arguments over this between NTodd and myself. I don't want to rehash it, and so offer up live-and-let-live peace offering. This makes me guilty of, er, unease with dissent from groupthink?


GravatarI like it.

You done been Simonized.


Gravatar
Me too. But I think I understand where NTodd is coming from. It's a defensible position. Just one that makes me uncomfortable-- not because of what NTodd thinks about it, but because of where others will and do undoubtedly take it.
Moe Szyslak, hating coal | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 10:33 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


I don't think there's any real disagreement here. They have their place, as NTodd says. They need lots of oversight and transparency, as RMJ says.


GravatarKey bullet point...

How I hate Powerpoint!


Gravatar4legs!
On HGTV right now, they're doing House Hunters in Santa Fe. Pretty neato.


Boo. On mine they're doing that stupid "Design on A DIme"

I muted it. Too annoying.


GravatarNo, you just chickened out when I asked you for ways I could take to make things better.

Bzzzzt!


GravatarPrickstein:

By looking giving money to an entity who is building facilities to generate "green" electricity, thus offsetting my negative impact in this instance.

Hmmm. Looking into it, eh?

How committed!


GravatarHow can I offset it? By looking giving money to an entity who is building facilities to generate "green" electricity, thus offsetting my negative impact in this instance.

Good enough. But why do you need a middle man? Why can't you invest directly in a wind farm, or use the money to insulate your house or whatever. Why does some non-profit administrator need a cut?


GravatarI can't believe I wasn't aware of this.

The Library of Congress American Memory


GravatarI don't think there's any real disagreement here.

Nope, there isn't. We're all coming at it from different angles, but working toward the same end, with similar concerns.

Fucking echochamber.


GravatarY'all are so corrupt in your understanding of the climatological world that your new religion has emerged fully formed as Sixteenth Century Catholicism v. 2.0.

Nice going!
Toby Petzold


You argue with babble and generalizations. You present no data to support your view. You debate by calling your opponents names. Present some evidence to support your view, or shut up.


Gravatar Saying NTodd hasn't constantly flogged his posts on climate change is like [I think you can finish that one yourself.]


GravatarFucking echochamber.
NTodd, God'sGiftToDouchebags


This blog sucks.


GravatarWhy does some non-profit administrator need a cut?
Moe Szyslak


some are for-profit, aren't they?


GravatarThey'll show it pretty soon there. Hint - a one bedroom condo with a kiva fireplace, storage, beautiful patio, maple floors, kitchen - $135,000....
.


GravatarToby and annie and Zod, oh my!


GravatarThey'll show it pretty soon there. Hint - a one bedroom