I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Hello.
I did call sheets.
I really did.
I did call sheets.
But can you be stopped?
There is no food up here.
Kim WILDE!
i had my hair cut after her in the late 80s
Blondie from the 80's?
Notwithstanding Chimpy's frolicking in Maine, it was a bad day in Iraq
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/
20070...faZmgY9e2us0NUE
But you didn't say "Simon Says"
Off to the driving range and fried food - later gaters.
And, all of a sudden, the racist children are missing.
where is Atrios by the way (with all those food pics)?
Spain
I'm askeered of the video. Gimme a hint.
Kim WILDE!
Boy did I miss naming that one...
i admit defeat. What sort of seafood dish is this?
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where is Atrios by the way (with all those food pics)?
Barcelona, we suspect.
Oops. I meant an undisclosed location.
"where the kids in America, wo-ho-ho"
Pastor arrested for dragging girl
Accused of dragging 15y/o behind van during run at Christian boot camp.
http://rawstory.com/showoutartic...%
2F5045830.html
where is Atrios by the way (with all those food pics)?
At the Shedd Aquarium 1/2 Off Sale...
I'm askeered of the video. Gimme a hint.
V for Virginia
it's Kim Wilde 'kids in America'
Pastor arrested for dragging girl
Accused of dragging 15y/o behind van during run at Christian boot camp.
Who Would Jeesus Truckpull?
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Pastor arrested for dragging girl
Accused of dragging 15y/o behind van during run at Christian boot camp.
Oh, no, we only love fetuses. We can't fucking STAND children.
Barcelona, we suspect.
Oops. I meant an undisclosed location.
You're gonna need to come with us.
/NSA
From below:
Anybody else fucking pissed at the media giving that mining fuck a platform to spew anti-union hatred?
I'm pissed at the Dems who won't show up and explain why these tragedies are happening because of union busting and because Bush put mining company lobbyists in charge of mine safety.
But, then, that would be "unseemly".
Doesn't stop the wingnut, though, does it? He's standing on top of the bodies of dead miners and spewing his talking points. And, who's winning?
Why would the NYT get hitch to review Harry Potter?
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/1...Hitchens-
t.html
Moo.
Why would the NYT get hitch to review Harry Potter?
Wingnut welfare. Boy needs a job.
Gaiii.
Mrs Wilde is now a professional gardener. She even writes about gardening in The Guardian. True!
Back in the early days of MTV, when they still played music videos, I would watch in the hopes this video came on. Don't know if loved her or the song more.
Sue me! I can have my own tastes.
Oh, no, we only love fetuses. We can't fucking STAND children.
Well to be fair, it's only children that refuse the indoctrination of jeezus cultists that are hated.
Hecate, Toby said you were a liar on the last thread.
I think you should squish his empty haid.
come on NTodd, don't tell me you didn't fancy Kim Wilde back then?
carried over from below:
Taking words out of context is a form of lying. It's this basic lesson every Gooper must learn:
"Fuck facts, just make shit up about Dems!"
i did a google search for the quote and pulled up a gazillion reichwing sites that had the truncated quote -- all as evidence of bill clinton's commie inclinations....
fucking goobers.
Why would the NYT get hitch to review Harry Potter?
Harry Potter and the Chalice of Gin...
Sue me! I can have my own tastes.
Snow
i love you Snow! Kim was the type of girl back then that could turn me into a lesbian, true!
I think you should squish his empty haid.
I would, but the man has no penis. You have to take pity on the malformed. Imagine. He has no penis.
Hecate, Toby said you were a liar on the last thread.
Oh, is he getting defensive about lighting dogs on fire again?
Imagine. He has no penis.
He must look pretty funny.
and NTodd, i'm noticing a lack of cats on your blog this week.......................................
Imagine. That 15 year old cunt didn't run fast enough. Jebuz himself would have chained her to the SUV and dragged her.
i did a google search for the quote and pulled up a gazillion reichwing sites that had the truncated quote -- all as evidence of bill clinton's commie inclinations....
fucking goobers.
To them, the Second Amendment is the only one to defend. the rest need removal.
Well, until they get caught, then the Fifth's ok.
So, if the Clenis even hinted that the Second Amendment wasn't the Word of Gawd, then that's all they need to know to know he's eeeeevvvill.
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Oh, is he getting defensive about lighting dogs on fire again?
He says that I'm lying and that he never said that.
He says that I'm lying and that he never said that.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Talent on loan from Cheney.
OK, I am never going to make it to dinner if I am going to keep replaying the video.
xainist scriptures:
"and jeebus said, 'suffer the little illegal alien children to get off food stamps and stop taking my money'"
"cursed are the humble of spirit - you'll never get ahead and make a million dollars with that kind of attitude"
"and jeebus said to the rich man, 'take all you have and sell it, and give all the money to me'"
"a camel will go through the eye of a needle sooner than a rich man will be able to live at peace and not have to give his money to poor children"
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Imagine. That 15 year old cunt didn't run fast enough. Jebuz himself would have chained her to the SUV and dragged her.
If you would just read the Bible, you would see that that's how He cured the lame.
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do fetuses have original sin, or do you only get that once you has been borned?
they didn't cover stuff like that in hebrew school...
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Kim was the type of girl back then that could turn me into a lesbian, true!
Lately, Cate is making me think of switching teams.
Ntodd, i'm watching a documentary of the Morgan horse. It's a Vermont race you know. Vermont U is THE place for the study and keeping of that horse race. Very interesting, beautiful animal
Hello folks. Peeps. Peepettes, and sundry.
Hecate, ready for some ice cold Stoli martinis?
Hello folks. Peeps. Peepettes, and sundry.
trifecta
Heya -- how's the yob going, mang?
Is NTodd a Peep, or a Peeper?
Why would the NYT get hitch to review Harry Potter?
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/1...8/1...Hitchens-
t.html
P O'Neill | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 6:47 pm |
I noticed that earlier today and my first reaction is wtf is the whiskey-soaked popinjay doing reviewing HP and TDH? I couldn't finish the review, it didn't really seem to be about the book.
Lately, Cate is making me think of switching teams.
Hecate
i totally understand what you mean. BUt i'd be into Kate Winslet more, i like the curves...
do fetuses have original sin, or do you only get that once you has been borned?
they didn't cover stuff like that in hebrew school...
Per Christian theory, they are condemmed with Original Sin from the beginning - conception, to most interpretations of Christian doctrine.
Of course, since Xtians make the doctrine follow their beliefs, and not vice-versa, they anti-abortionists talk much about the "slaying of the innocent", despite such being impossible by doctrine.
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Smalfish, NTodd is a peeping Todd.
Tubby says he never said it? Back in October of '05 he admitting to having said it.
I've been saying that same shit for many years now. I wouldn't actually do such a thing, but it's how I feel about noisy and mean dogs. Better said than done. But think what you want of it.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 10.04.05 - 6:05 pm
the ret air force/christian/jeezus commander dragging the 15yo girl is one fucked up story. everything from the lawman saying he just wasn't sure it was a crime, depending on what the parents approved and all... to this:
$314,673 to operate the boot camp, with nearly 89 percent of the costs, $278,549, going for salaries.
Sallyh,
I am v., v. ready?
How's my grand-daughter-in-law?
Heya -- how's the yob going, mang?
V for Virginia
Way too many training classes. 7.5 hour class without a break today by the state child services group.
Kids start back on Thursday though so that will be more fun.
come on NTodd, don't tell me you didn't fancy Kim Wilde back then?
Well, sure.
My thoughts on state licensing.
Boring, but it's annoying too. You would be amazed at the rules and regulations they have in place. The nacho one just tripped me out.
Way too many training classes. 7.5 hour class without a break today by the state child services group.
If I get my job they're going to train me within an inch of my life. Three days of computer training, alone.
plum p,
Yeah, but Cate in that armour is teh hot.
Is NTodd a Peep, or a Peeper?
We call all you motherfucking flatlanders who invade Vermont during foliage season, getting in our way when we're trying to commute to work 'peepers.'
I noticed that earlier today and my first reaction is wtf is the whiskey-soaked popinjay
Hecate, your GIL is lovely and will be over for dinner with her parents in a few hours 
How is my grandson in law? He's absolutely gorgeous himself
Lately, the news is making me think I shouldn't sober up, at least not for another year and a half.
Plus, Toby admitted to being all talk and no walk. Like a fucking coward.
Anyone heard from whiskeyina lately?
Yummm.... Foliage.
Every time Chimpy slaps Sarkozy on the back, the French people collectively VOMIT.
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Anyone heard from whiskeyina lately?
She left a comment at my place recently. Wicked busy.
Oh, "Kids in America"
Classic.
Danika McKeller wants to make math sexy.
Always kinda liked this song....
Trifecta, she totally rocks!
Her field is statistical mechanics, so I never had her as a student, but she does UCLA proud. She wrote a proof as an undergrad that's been accepted and utilized.
Evening of afternoon, depending, all
Yeah, but Cate in that armour is teh hot.
Hecate
so was Helen Mirren in the same role in a tv serie last year. That Elizabeth sure makes some great actress act even better. Remember Glenda Jackson in 72? Ouf!
How is my grandson in law?
Back from the beach this evening and having brunch w/ his Nonna, parents, and first cousin once removed tomorrow morning. Saying lots of words and walking like a true champ. Adores the ocean. Called me last night when he got ahold of his mother's cell phone to say, "Nonna. Cows. Moo. Bees. Bzzz." V. profound.
We elect a Democrat, it will be time enough for me to sober up.
Every time Chimpy slaps Sarkozy on the back, the French people collectively VOMIT.
seriously. i can't possibly imagine that is going over well with his countrymen. and what about all that cheese-eating surrender monkey french bashing the repukes revel in ...
Remember Glenda Jackson in 72? Ouf!
Amen.
Wicked busy.
That's good, I guess.
Thanks.
Every time Chimpy slaps Sarkozy on the back, the French people collectively VOMIT.
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VJ
Maybe he'll get his very own commander-in-chief bomber jacket -- that'll be schweet!
i admit defeat. What sort of seafood dish is this?
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Cynicus
Those are olives that were his eyes. Look!
We elect a Democrat, it will be time enough for me to sober up.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Whichever the outcome, I'm getting shit-faced drunk on Election Night 2008.
I wonder if Bush has a presidential logo on his brush cutting tool. Chainsaw one.
"There is an epidemic right now of girls dumbing themselves down … in middle school because they think its makes them attractive," she said. "[It] could be because of the role models they are getting in the media."
I agree. But do we have to limit it to girls? Boys are just as susceptible to media role models.
But I like her ideas.
the French people collectively VOMIT.
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VJ
they voted for him, let them be stuck with him. No pitty for the french this year, if you ask moi
Danika McKeller wants to make math sexy.
I always loved her jawline.
BTW, calculus is sexy.
I noticed that earlier today and my first reaction is wtf is the whiskey-soaked popinjay
pie | 08.11.07 - 7:02 pm
Galloway has a way with words. And I misquoted:
"You're a drink-soaked former Trotskyist popinjay," Mr Galloway informed him. "Your hands are shaking. You badly need another drink," he added later, ignoring Mr Hitchens's questions and staring intently ahead.
http://pacificgazette.blogspot.c...-
poppinjay.html
Hecate, I realize this is something only a grandma could appreciate, but yesterday, while having brunch with the kids and GG, I got up to use the ladies.' Maddy apparently let out a bloodcurdling scream and wouldn't calm down till Grandma got back out. She glommed right on to me.
As I said, something only a gramma can appreciate
I wonder if Bush has a presidential logo on his brush cutting tool. Chainsaw one.
I bet there's a presidential seal in the bottom of his toilet.
Wallup, my sweet wife has things for me to do, real-world. Catch you all in the AM, i hope.
Good night and good luck!
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Always kinda liked this song....
Phila, Pizen Sarpint
Me too...but when she sings about "East California," where's she talking about I wonder? Death Valley?
Nonna. Cows. Moo. Bees. Bzzz.
I will follow Him and His Wisdom to the furthest corner of the Cosmos.
What the hell is she waving her hands around for. My God, is that supposed to be... dancing?
My thoughts on state licensing.
Boring, but it's annoying too. You would be amazed at the rules and regulations they have in place. The nacho one just tripped me out.
trifecta
My wonderful Son is barred from working with kids. He momentarily lost track of a kid, police were called and he was prosecuted. Long story short.
There seems to be some kinna vendetta my against the day care where he worked.
He loves kids.
"There is an epidemic right now of girls dumbing themselves down … in middle school because they think its makes them attractive," she said. "[It] could be because of the role models they are getting in the media."
the software company that i'm working at now has the biggest percentage of wimmen engineers of any company i know
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As I said, something only a gramma can appreciate
Well of course. You missed the bloodcurdling screams.
NTodd, you really need some kids of your own to play with. You'd be the sort of dad where the kids would run to mom and scream, "Mom! Dad won't give back our toys and come in for dinner!"
I bet there's a presidential seal in the bottom of his toilet.
smalfish,suspect at all times
Copy of the Constitution.
perfected in china; coming soon to your community:
August 12, 2007
In China, a High-Tech Plan to Track People
By KEITH BRADSHER
SHENZHEN, China, Aug. 9 — At least 20,000 police surveillance cameras are being installed along streets here in southern China and will soon be guided by sophisticated computer software from an American-financed company to recognize automatically the faces of police suspects and detect unusual activity.
Starting this month in a port neighborhood and then spreading across Shenzhen, a city of 12.4 million people, residency cards fitted with powerful computer chips programmed by the same company will be issued to most citizens.
Data on the chip will include not just the citizen’s name and address but also work history, educational background, religion, ethnicity, police record, medical insurance status and landlord’s phone number. Even personal reproductive history will be included, for enforcement of China’s controversial “one child” policy. Plans are being studied to add credit histories, subway travel payments and small purchases charged to the card.
Security experts describe China’s plans as the world’s largest effort to meld cutting-edge computer technology with police work to track the activities of a population and fight crime. But they say the technology can be used to violate civil rights.
The Chinese government has ordered all large cities to apply technology to police work and to issue high-tech residency cards to 150 million people who have moved to a city but not yet acquired permanent residency.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/
1...agewanted=print
Always kinda liked this song....
Phila, Pizen Sarpint
Watched about the first 45 seconds. Don't get it. Maybe you had to be there.
so was Helen Mirren in the same role in a tv serie last year. That Elizabeth sure makes some great actress act even better. Remember Glenda Jackson in 72? Ouf!
plum p, who loves Al Gore | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 7:06 pm
Labour MP Glenda Jackson?
Good news for our trolls:
It's OK to have sex with your doppelganger.
Copy of the Constitution.
SteveLG
nah, that's what he wipes his ass with..
SteveLG!
Do you know anything about this snocap thing that's used to buy tracks from Anais? I'm stuck!
NTodd, you really need some kids of your own to play with. You'd be the sort of dad where the kids would run to mom and scream, "Mom! Dad won't give back our toys and come in for dinner!"
More like "Mom! Dad just wired the house to make Britney Spears holograms.!"
Maddy apparently let out a bloodcurdling scream and wouldn't calm down till Grandma got back out. She glommed right on to me.
Heh; I appreciate it. She loves her Grandma.
Isn't this the most fun? I am just loving it.
will soon be guided by sophisticated computer software from an American-financed company to recognize automatically the faces of police suspects and detect unusual activity.
"There are three students in Tianenmen Square; Three Students! Nope, now there are four. Call the PLA."
Me too...but when she sings about "East California," where's she talking about I wonder? Death Valley?
Buzz Bomb | 08.11.07 - 7:09 pm |
It's like
Coast To Coast
LA to Chicago
in Smooth Operator?
Or Daddy was a cop/on the East Side of Chicago
huh?
Hecate, the best part? When you're done, they leave
It's OK to have sex with your doppelganger.
Personally, I'd never fuck me.
Spinoza, now, I'm pretty sure NTodd wouldn't let his kids out behind the Tastee Freez.
It's OK to have sex with your doppelganger.
Where can I get one?
More like "Mom! Dad just wired the house to make Britney Spears holograms.!"
More like in Logan's Run, when the hologram becomes a real girl!
More like in Logan's Run, when the hologram becomes a real girl!
Not going to go over well with the next Mrs. NTodd.
Spinoza, now, I'm pretty sure NTodd wouldn't let his kids out behind the Tastee Freez.
They gotta learn the family business.
The End Times can't come soon enough for me.
I don't think that it would be v. interesting to have sex w/ myself. Where's the mystery?
Not, you know, that there's anything wrong with that.
Do you know anything about this snocap thing that's used to buy tracks from Anais? I'm stuck!
V for Virginia
It looks to me like you click on the little chevron next to where it says "Hi, Guest" and set up the account.
Beyond this I know nothing... I've never used it.
“We have a very good relationship with U.S. companies like I.B.M., Cisco, H.P., Dell,” said Robin Huang, the chief operating officer of China Public Security. “All of these U.S. companies work with us to build our system together.”
NTodd, perhaps you'll be more successful in getting your kids to support you than I have been with mine
They gotta learn the family business.
Does being dragged behind a van come included with that education, or is it an extra special added incentive laden package?
I can't believe no one's made a "doppelgangbang" joke yet.
I'm certainly not going to... I have some standards.
The feature that makes the Pussy Foot even better than an actual foot is the pussy located on the sole of the foot. You can passionately fuck the foot in a way you’ve never been able to before. It is the perfect combination of foot and vagina.
Well, um, all acts of love and pleasure . . . .
That's just weird.
Beyond this I know nothing... I've never used it.
SteveLG
Hell. Can't find the tracks I think I purchased.
Oh, well -- I e-mailed customer support and I'm sure they'll clue me eventually.
So, let's see, this vid is at least 20 yrs old, Atrios is 35, hmm, the host with a teenage new wave Philly mullet?
Needz pics.
Does being dragged behind a van come included with that education, or is it an extra special added incentive laden package?
smalfish,suspect at all times
Extra, But the horse option is cheaper.
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Not going to go over well with the next Mrs. NTodd.
How the hell do you think I'm going to MEET the next Mrs NTodd?
The End Times can't come soon enough for me.
Hmmmm...
It is the perfect combination of foot and vagina.
Why didn't I think of that?
Phila, and here I thought spanking horses were a bizarre concept.
Well, um, all acts of love and pleasure . . . .
That's just weird.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 7:18 pm | #
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The Dick Morris special.
Ewww.
You can passionately fuck the foot in a way you’ve never been able to before. It is the perfect combination of foot and vagina.
Great! I've always been afraid of athlete's snatch.
That's just weird.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 7:18 pm | # [kill]
Fans of The Passion can pretend it's got stigmata...
How the hell do you think I'm going to MEET the next Mrs NTodd?
Serendipitously. but you're gonna have to say hello.
The Lord sayeth, Spare not the Van Dragging.
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Does being dragged behind a van come included with that education, or is it an extra special added incentive laden package?
Drag 'em with either my hybrid or, if I ever clean out the mountains of recycling in the garage, my bike.
It is the perfect combination of foot and vagina.
Pumps are atractive.
What if your penis is longer than a foot?
What if your penis is longer than a foot?
You'd be NTodd.
What if your penis is longer than a foot?
"What if", indeed.
What if your penis is longer than a foot?
Speaking for myself, I wouldn't use it as a rule.
The Lord sayeth, Spare not the Van Dragging.
James Dobson's NEXT book about "disciplining" children.
You'd be NTodd.
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere | 08.11.07 - 7:22 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
Sounds like phallus advertising to me.
"New York to East California"
What a lame line....
What if your penis is longer than a foot?
You'd be NTodd.
I use a meter stick.
Off to fix dinner. Have a lovely evening, all you good people.
What a lame line....
Gilly Gonzylon | 08.11.07 - 7:27 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
What have you got against Needles?
The Lord sayeth, Spare not the Van Dragging.
One of the worst things about this is the fact that any fundy will tell you they're against this deplorable action. They shake their heads and pretend that it's just an isolated incidence of a bad apple.
America leads the world... into the abyss:
A not-quite-shining city on a hill
Sen. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.) recently told Glenn Greenwald that the United States' legal system -- with its respect for the rule of law and citizens' civil liberties -- has been the envy of the world for years. But as we've departed from our principles, others are following suit.
"[T]here has been an erosion in the world with the rule of the law," Dodd said. "Having led the world in the rule of law in the post-World War II period, and having nations reluctantly moving in the direction we were moving in, and they now see the U.S. has retreated, and they are making a hasty retreat themselves."
That was the same plate in both shrimp and fish pictures.
Betcha Mrs. A is COOKING and they are in their HOUSE. In Barcelona.
If it's good enough for Greenwald, it's good enough for the A's.
How the hell do you think I'm going to MEET the next Mrs NTodd?
Buying a tshirt that says "Stop bitching. Start a revolution."
I guess I'll have to watch Kos on press the meat tonight.
What have you got against Needles?
Phila, Pizen Sarpint
Or Barstow Pies?
(ask my Mom)
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Men who think about penis size are, well, men who think about penis size.
Just sayin'
Let's Take a Walk...Down Valhallavägen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s...h?v=sd9Kvq_jx-
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Good news for our trolls:
It's OK to have sex with your doppelganger.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint
They'd probably prefer this, if they could afford one:
http://www.realdoll.com/
I don't think that it would be v. interesting to have sex w/ myself. Where's the mystery?
I tend to agree. Pretty dull.
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Buying a tshirt that says "Stop bitching. Start a revolution."
Note: sitting on thumb and rotating does not equal a revolution.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s....h?v=sd9Kvq_jx-
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Gilly Gonzylon | 08.11.07 - 7:31 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
Can't. It's After Six.
I tend to agree. Pretty dull.
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GWPDA, Unable to Leave
I'm afraid I would just be turned off.
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Buying a tshirt that says "Stop bitching. Start a revolution."
She's better change her name back to Caroline first...
anyone familiar with Three Floyd's "Gumball Head"?
very nice
Hmmm...I suspect I've selected an inauspicious time to announce that I have Bonus Critter Blogging up.
No, but I've a dozen ears of Olathe corn for tonight, the pool algae has succumbed to the shocking and I've just discarded my copies of "Lotus Notes for Dummies" and "Project Management for Dummies." Whoooooooooooohoooooooooooo!
Would it be worse having sex with your self or watching your doppelganger have sex with someone else?
Can't. It's After Six.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 7:32 pm | #
In that case...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b...h?
v=btSg757aM9A
I'm afraid I would just be turned off.
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agave | 08.11.07 - 7:33 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
You just need to bring some props in to liven stuff up....like those "pussy feet" upthread, maybe.
Would it be worse having sex with your self or watching your doppelganger have sex with someone else?
JeffCO
Afterwards, would they help paint the study?
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Hmmm...I suspect I've selected an inauspicious time to announce that I have Bonus Critter Blogging up.
Diane C. Barking-Mad
We have those here. First time I've seen them in the 'wild'.
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Afterwards, would they help paint the study?
Might be better to have them do it first.
Would it be worse having sex with your self or watching your doppelganger have sex with someone else?
It could be profitable to sell "yourself" out.
Afterwards, would they help paint the study?
Might be better to have them do it first.
JeffCO
Well, I've always found it's easier to get paint off if you don't wear a lot.
Damn, haloscan just sent me back in time five minutes..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b...h? v=btSg757aM9A
Gilly Gonzylon | 08.11.07 - 7:36 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
I'd link to the deranged Cantonese version I had on my blog, but it seems to have been removed....
We have those here. First time I've seen them in the 'wild'.
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agave
I selected the American alligator for this week in honor of the newest denizen of the LA Zoo.
Apparently some idiot finally came to the conclusion that his cute little pet alligator was getting too big and too ornery to keep, so he released it into a California lake.
The state wildlife agency had one hell of a time capturing it, but they finally did. The zoo fattened him up and introduced him to the public this week.
Would it be worse having sex with your self or watching your doppelganger have sex with someone else?
It could be profitable to sell "yourself" out.
smalfish,suspect at all times | 08.11.07 - 7:38 pm | #
I am the autopimp, motherfucker.
Well, I've always found it's easier to get paint off if you don't wear a lot.
I find your ideas intriguing and would like to subscribe to your vblog.
Oh, this is funny. The Borg's most recent mailing is for something called "Health Navigator". Evidently it's a service that acts as an intermediary between the employee and the health insurance company. Now, understand that health insurance benefits are being slashed by the Borg - so what they've substituted are 'consultants' who will tell you that there's nothing to be done.... I think I'll give them a call and see if they can, in the next 72 hours, find me some comprehensive and cheap personal health insurance....
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Some more on Fred Phelps.
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/h...rty/
expose3.htm
The state wildlife agency had one hell of a time capturing it, but they finally did. The zoo fattened him up and introduced him to the public this week.
Diane C. Barking-Mad
Caligators!
There is at least one in the Lake/Pond/Swamp in our community park. It's connected to the river so every time they remove one another takes it's place.
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Caligators!
There is at least one in the Lake/Pond/Swamp in our community park. It's connected to the river so every time they remove one another takes it's place.
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agave
Alligators are not native to California, so you can imagine the reaction when some folks fishing and swimming in the lake spotted the critter.
Are they native to your area?
I think I'll give them a call and see if they can, in the next 72 hours, find me some comprehensive and cheap personal health insurance....
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GWPDA, Unable to Leave
Little known fact.
Ronald Raygun was employed by PR firms representing the "Health" industry to paint national health care as an Evil Commie plot.
It worked well.
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Yee Hah!! Kim Wilde. LOVE HER! One of my favorite videos from the early MTV days. Back then had a girlfriend Jeane who dressed and moved and had hair like Kim.
And to prove the power of the song, I downloaded onto a cd several years ago. My then 5 year old niece started singing along in the car, learned every word and even did kid theater to it, looking out the window etc.. the kid cute part is she sang the lyric "Little Kids in America".
Now she's 12, just walked in the door and I played it for her on ol' Atrios and she sang it to me again. Beautiful Kim
Bravo Atrios. Nice walk down memory lane. I'll have to google Kimmy to see where she is now.
Oh, and Bush sucks.
Ronald Reagan made America believe in itself again, he inspired a New Generation of Americans to reach for their dreams, and achieve what they had only a few short years prior thought impossible.
Naw, I'm just effin with ya.
although i'm still fucking pissed at mellencamp for selling out to chevrolet with his song 'this is our country'... which i'm not fond of anyway. he's still cool.
guess the only good thing is that i don't have to listen to seger's 'like a rock' anymore in their commercials.
these lyrics of his often give me comfort (like tonight) when i get really fed up about the shit going on.
The simple minded and the uninformed
Can be easily led astray
And those that cannot connect the dots
Hey, look the other way
People believe what they want to believe
When it makes no sense at all
So, I wish you all a long sight line
and, the strength to walk tall...
oh, and the tequila is helping quite well tonight.
anyway...
Amoeba's are my heroes.
Amoeba's are my heroes.
smalfish,suspect at all times
And this is because?
Hello again. Back from dinner and I must say I'm full as a tick.
My youngest son just grilled filet mignon, and asparagus marinated in olive oil, lemon juice and garlic. I cooked the baked potatoes and sliced the French bread. I also whipped up a butter and roquefort cheese spread.
I don't think I've had steak in over six or seven months, but it certainly was good.
Are they native to your area?
Diane C. Barking-Mad
Yes.
SE TX.
Tho not plentiful they are to be seen.
I thought the Alligator in the lake was a myth or a story they told newcomers.
But sure enuff, one day we took the dogs to the park, Eddy loves to swim, and there was a gator in the water.
I asked a young lady sitting on the railing of the dock if she had seen the gator, thinking it was a joke, and she nods a points. No shit, there was one floating out in the middle. Maybe 6ft long.
It was like a wind mill with the dogs location being the wind.
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And this is because?
Amoeba's are better than wheat Germs.
I think I'll give them a call and see if they can, in the next 72 hours, find me some comprehensive and cheap personal health insurance....
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GWPDA, Unable to Leave | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 7:45 pm | #
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Health insurance! Cheap? Comprehensive? I'm unable to understand what you are getting at.
Holy crap, Agave!
Would Eddy have tangled with the gator?
It was like a wind mill with the dogs location being the wind.
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agave
Ahhh, weather vane not wind mill.
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Amoeba's are my heroes.
Amoeba's whats? Their mitochondria? Their pseudopods?
If you find such a thing as affordable health insurance, please do share. I have to find something by november (COBRA running out) and I'm more than a little pissed and appalled at what I've seen so far.
we're the kids in 'merka
Hello moonbats
If I want something spicy to eat, McDonalds is always my first choice.
If I want something spicy to eat, McDonalds is always my first choice.
smalfish,suspect at all times
Burger King and Frank's red hot
been out all day at my Grandpa's celebrating him turning 90
and after that me and my bro headed to the pube
so been a full and fun day
I thought so
LEN did "kids in America" too
also
The Muffs, I like that version too
the "pube"?
I have photos too - Grandpa's 90th birthday and Seend Flower Show and Fete
* the pub
typo
I want to see "pube" pics.
the pub
typo
Moonbootica, Graduated
I figured
I'm just joshing ya
am tired hence spelling mistake
it's no big woop
I'm the king of the typo
am tired hence spelling mistake
We all make misteaks when we're tired.
Hello again. Back from dinner and I must say I'm full as a tick.
Not the one that bit Bush, I hope.
You be sick like yellow dog, in that case.
and after that me and my bro headed to the pube
This is so very wrong on quite a few levels.
How the hell do you think I'm going to MEET the next Mrs NTodd?
Russian / Phillipine marriage broker
Naw, I'm just effin with ya.
Andruw
Some of us are ineffable.
Holy crap, Agave!
Would Eddy have tangled with the gator?
Diane C. Barking-Mad
That worried me. He has swam way out there before, not that day, tho. Now he just swims in the river when the water is low and slow and you can see the bottom.
On land he would be safe against one but swimming hard toward shore and even a small gator grabs his leg and pulls him down, he's a goner.
I heard a story of the thing charging out of the water after a little dog.
I think Eddy would run, but Wiley?
He might just challenge it. He takes on any dog that he sees as a threat, no matter how big.
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Some of us are ineffable.
SteveLG
ineff is ineff
sorry, that was wrong of me.
now I'm out for the evening
Titans have the ball.
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Can I just mention that the NFL network sucks at covering live game?
nuncamas - Are you old enough for AARP? 'Cause United Health services is offering, thru them, individual plans rated as group plans, by states.
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smalfish: Can I just mention that the NFL network sucks at covering live game?
Not as bad as our local station.
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Am I missing a thread or something? It feels like it's about 4 AM or something around here.
Am I missing a thread or something? It feels like it's about 4 AM or something around here.
It's Saint Fuckaround's Day. Everybody's at church.
sorry, that was wrong of me.
General Zod
In what way?
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NEED RESOURCES HELP.
I recall reading somewhere that Iran was a NET CONSUMER of oil, an unexpected factoid that seemed incredible. Does anybody have a source on this?
Would much appreciate help.
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GWPDA can joo email me?
gatobloggerro "at" yahoo "dot" com
Gracias.
so.
It's Saint Fuckaround's Day. Everybody's at church.
See, now there's a deity I can get behind.
goodnight moonbats
Actual Spanish food seems quite "rustic".
And aussi, any ARIZONANS need cheap, comprehensive health insurance? 'Cause, if I can gather about two more people I can, thru the State and my ownself's GWPDA, Inc. make that available. Mercycare as the HMO, or MMSI as the PPO. The State program is supposed to cover sole proprietors, but this past month reneged and said that for Mercycare you need two people and for MMSI you need three. Both programmes offer coverage that really is very good, at about $200/month - you just have to lie and say GWPDA, Inc. is your employer. I have no problem with lying to insurance companies.
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Hungry.
Titans on the board with a FG.
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"Both programmes offer coverage that really is very good, at about $200/month - you just have to lie and say GWPDA, Inc. is your employer. I have no problem with lying to insurance companies."
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--GWPDA,
Oh my. Let me call my son in Tucson. I would even help pay his fee. I think I have your email address saved. I'll be in touch if he is interested. Thanks.
Our lady of a thousand road burns:
http://rawstory.com/showoutartic...%
2F5045830.html
I guess it's about time for a beer run.
To quote that troublemaking upstart who dared defy the The Divine Right of his Lawful Soverign to RULE over him as he saw fit, You know, George Washington, the Deist and Freemason first president of the United States who wrote:
"The Citizens of the United States of America have a right to applaud themselves for giving to Mankind examples of an enlarged and liberal policy: a policy worthy of imitation. All possess alike liberty of conscience and immunities of citizenship. It is now no more that toleration is spoken of, as if it was by the indulgence of one class of people that another enjoyed the exercise of their inherent natural rights. For happily the Government of the United States, which gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance, requires only that they who live under its protection, should demean themselves as good citizens."
Don't see a word about "Except for Musselmen and Hindoos. They are Teh Suxx0rz!"
Maybe Bill Sali borrowed the Seerstones from the Tabernacle next door in Utah, and used them to see those bits about Moslems and Hindus.
Apparently so many more people showed up in Ames, Iowa to take free BBQ from Mitt Romney than actually vote for anyone at the Iowa Straw Poll they're about 10,000 short of what they expected.
And that's causing a delay.
Delay by apathy.
This country is nothing like what the founders had envisioned.
Washington unable to make FG.
WSH-0 TEN-3
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Delay by apathy.
attaturk | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 8:50 pm | #
None of the Above!
None of the Above!
This country is nothing like what the founders had envisioned.
smalfish,suspect at all times | 08.11.07 - 8:50 pm | #
Yeah. For one thing, we don't have slaves.
Bjorn: None of the Above!
A GREAT tune by The Bears.
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Oh my. Let me call my son in Tucson. I would even help pay his fee. I think I have your email address saved. I'll be in touch if he is interested. Thanks.
mer
Mer - with two people as primaries, we can do Mercycare - and I swear, the Sisters of Mercy do darned good health care. The web site is http://www.healthcaregroupaz.com/ - and the deadline is 5pm 14 September - the state is freezing access for a year after that.
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dial up connection sux...
catch all you malcontents, tomorrow.
peace
Dumbo, Iran does not have refining capacity to meet its own demand, so it exports crude then imports refined.
Google if you need a link.
GWPDA, I have cut and pasted your information. I'll be in touch with him tomorrow. I hate when one of my children don't have health insurance. He is a healthy 28-year-old--but you never know. Thanks again.
Bjorn: None of the Above!
A GREAT tune by The Bears.
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 8:52 pm
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hi sweetz enjoying your new freedom
Rookies missing field goals is not a good idea.
This country is nothing like what the founders had envisioned.
Actually, I think it is! The Executive has overreached, creating the Monarchy they (with the exception of Federalists like Hamilton) feared! And Franklin wasn't necessarily convinced we could keep our Republic!
USA! USA! USA!
Last year, Love Demonstrated Ministries reported private and government contributions totaling $314,673 to operate the boot camp, with nearly 89 percent of the costs, $278,549, going for salaries.
"I'm from the government, and I'm here to help you tie teenage girls behind vans and drag them along on their stomachs."
sittenpretty: hi sweetz enjoying your new freedom
Maybe tomorrow, if my eye grows back.
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sittenpretty: hi sweetz enjoying your new freedom
Maybe tomorrow, if my eye grows back.
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wha hoppened?
Snow:
Plus, Toby admitted to being all talk and no walk. Like a fucking coward.
So, not only do you acknowledge (and, apparently, believe) that I have never burned a dog alive, but you also condemn me for expressing murderous hatred because I didn't act upon it?
You're some sort of goddamned idiot.
smalfish: Rookies missing field goals is not a good idea.
Yeah... he's cut.
Why would you be interested in this game? Oh, it's in HD.
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USA! USA! USA!
This chant, oddly, makes me feel ever so patriotic.
Toby really hates it when we bring up his penchant for burning dogs. That amuses me.
"'...I'm here to help you tie teenage girls behind vans and drag them along on their stomachs.'"
--Phila,
How disgust is that? Why would anyone do that? Scum of the earth.
Republicans are having trouble tabulating the results of the straw poll. This is surprising considering they used Diebold scan machines.
sittenpretty: wha hoppened?
Dunno. Scratched it, this morning. Something was in it, thought I flushed it out, but no. It's pretty terrible, but I heal well, and quickly.
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Its getting to the point where maybe we need to drag Texas behind a truck.
Personally, I see no contradiction in condemning Toby both for having sociopathic fantasies *and* for not having the courage of his convictions.
How disgust is that? Why would anyone do that?
YOU WILL SUBMIT TO THE WILL OF JEEZZUS!!
mer:
Why would anyone do that? Scum of the earth.
Because they know that hippie morans are opposed to capital punishment and that they might actually get off lightly or away with it altogether.
"Comment by Toby Petzold | blocked. [unkill][show comment]"
Oh, look, the little fuckwad has shown up.
Just in time for all and sundry to ignore his stupidity.
Fuck off and die, Toby.
sittenpretty: wha hoppened?
Dunno. Scratched it, this morning. Something was in it, thought I flushed it out, but no. It's pretty terrible, but I heal well, and quickly.
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do you have any of LEs eye ointment left? if so use it
WOODS SEIZES CONTROL AT SOUTHERN HILLS
Woods is 12-0 when going into the final round of major with at least a share of the lead, and he has never lost any tournament when leading by more than one shot after 54 holes.
Because they know that hippie morans are opposed to capital punishment and that they might actually get off lightly or away with it altogether.
You're an idiot.
"YOU WILL SUBMIT TO THE WILL OF JEEZZUS!!"
--smalfish
Only because I was so mad and forgot to add an ing to the word disgust.
Tucker, if you weren't an insecure loser, you wouldn't have to use techno-trickery to filter your world for you.
Godforsaken wanker.
I also am happy to condemn Toby for pretending that anyone is dissuaded from awful behavior because of fear of punishment, or that anyone is encouraged to act in awful ways by others' feeling that killing people is wrong.
Because they know that hippie morans are opposed to capital punishment
Like the former Republican/b> governor of Illinois?
Granted, he may be in prison himself by now, but still...
Toby really hates it when we bring up his penchant for burning dogs. That amuses me.
NTodd, God'sGiftToDouchebags | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 9:08 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
I suppose I could bring up his unbelievably ignorant or dishonest claim that progressives are "incapable" of advocating women's rights in the Muslim world. But I don't really care all that much.
Well, damn.
If practice makes perfect, the Titans and Redskins will have the best special teams in the league.
Jeff:
[...]or that anyone is encouraged to act in awful ways by others' feeling that killing people is wrong.
Huh?
hate when one of my children don't have health insurance. He is a healthy 28-year-old--but you never know. Thanks again.
mer
mer! 28? It'll be CHEAP for him! I mean, really, really, really cheap! It's for old people like me that it becomes mildly expensive. gwpda at gwpda dot org or cd078 at faradic dot com
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the results f the GOP Iowa "straw poll" have so far been delayed 1 1/2 hours because of "problems" counting the 14,000 votes.
It just goes to show you can't trust Republicans to count votes, not even their own.
smalfish: If practice makes perfect, the Titans and Redskins will have the best special teams in the league.
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I love killfile. Why, because it pisses off Toby and his ilk to no end.
Suck it, PutzHold. Suck it hard, you pathetic little shitmonkey.
Great example, Pie. That lousy bastard commuted all the death row sentences because he wanted to score points weith the liberals. Period.
Like a political deathbed conversion to pave the way to ideological heaven.
the results f the GOP Iowa "straw poll" have so far been delayed 1 1/2 hours because of "problems" counting the 14,000 votes.
Hilarious.
Toby really hates killfile, too. That amuses me as much as reminding people that he loves lighting dogs on fire.
At least we beat Swaziland!
http://rawstory.com/showoutartic...ter%3Fmode%
3DPF
the results f the GOP Iowa "straw poll" have so far been delayed 1 1/2 hours because of "problems" counting the 14,000 votes.
Geez, wan't that one of "the 14 indications that you know you're in a fascist state when..."?
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Why is Tucker so angry at me? Does he even have a right to fling his monkey shit at me if he literally doesn't know what I'm saying?
What a pathetic little child.
That lousy bastard commuted all the death row sentences because he wanted to score points weith the liberals. Period.
Well, not exactly, Tobes.
Ever heard of DNA testing?
Personally, I see no contradiction in condemning Toby both for having sociopathic fantasies *and* for not having the courage of his convictions.
JeffCO | 08.11.07 - 9:09 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
Toby doesn't have any convictions. He's got fear and defensiveness and not much else.
Toby admires Michael Vick.
'TechnoTrickery'? Wasn't that the name of Kraftwerks last album.
Maybe not.
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I'll say it slowly for you, Toby: your pretending that my thinking killing people is wrong (including when the state does it) somehow magically encourages sociopaths such as yourself to go ahead and commit atrocities is ludicrous on its face and betrays your lack of seriousness.
Fisher throws the red flag. In a pre-season game!
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I feel bad about the miners and all, but, our troops that have been blown up in the interim have hardly rated a 1 second news scroll.
Comment by Toby Petzold | Homepage blocked. [unkill][show comment]
Heh.
At least we beat Swaziland!
Is this the story about the U.S. being 42nd in life expectancy?
Fortyfuckingsecond.
Unbelievable.
Toby is very serious. Seriously disturbed.
Michael Vick? The only thing I took away from that headline was Robert Byrd's KKK-like speech in condemnation of him.
Boy, I'll bet that was the first money shot that old man's taken in years!
Toby doesn't have any convictions. He's got fear and defensiveness and not much else.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 9:18 pm | #
Actually, he's been convicted of being annoying in 36 states.
Fisher throws the red flag. In a pre-season game!
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did you read my eye ointment comment?
Is this the story about the U.S. being 42nd in life expectancy?
sittenpretty: did you read my eye ointment comment?
Of course!
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Is this the story about the U.S. being 42nd in life expectancy?
But we have the most profitable health care industry on the planet!
Jeff, the second draft's really no better, son. You wasted several minutes of your life just then that you ain't getting back. Please try to prioritize a little better.
I have been informed via IM, that Toby PutzHold has been taking my name in vain.
What a Moran! He's railing at me, knowing full well I'm not seeing a word he says.
HAW! HAW! HAW!
Unbelievable.
pie | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 9:20 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
You should be grateful! High child mortality and low life expectancy are deterrents against violent crime.
But we have the most profitable health care industry on the planet!
Toby doesn't have any convictions. He's got fear and defensiveness and not much else. Phila
Sure, but my point was that even if he did, it would not be a contradiction to condemn him for not having the courage of them.
i have a crappy migraine ....and no meds
I don't suppose anyone's interested in oven fried chicken, mac salad, four bean salad, farm fresh corn, garlic bread, and chocolate chip cream pie.
With choice of beverage, naturally.
-- A relatively high percentage of babies born in the U.S. die before their first birthday, compared with other industrialized nations.
Culture of life! Culture of life!
Actually, he's been convicted of being annoying in 36 states.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi | 08.11.07 - 9:21 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
I mostly feel sorry for him. What a way to have to live.
Say, that killfile business is really contributing to the day room at the old folks' home vibe in here.
Dirty hippies.
sittenpretty: i have a crappy migraine ....and no meds
I sorry. Wish I could help. Accupressure?
I'll be heaing to bed, soon. That's always good for what ails me.
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Is this the story about the U.S. being 42nd in life expectancy?
But we have the most profitable health care industry on the planet!
I believe there's a correlation here. A negative one.
Toby never fails to crack me up. He actually revels in his inanity.
Sure, but my point was that even if he did, it would not be a contradiction to condemn him for not having the courage of them.
JeffCO | 08.11.07 - 9:23 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
Point taken.
im going to ice my head
nite nite
I don't suppose anyone's interested in oven fried chicken, mac salad, four bean salad, farm fresh corn, garlic bread, and chocolate chip cream pie.
If you don't have any beans and hot dogs, I'm out.
I don't suppose anyone's interested in oven fried chicken, mac salad, four bean salad, farm fresh corn, garlic bread, and chocolate chip cream pie.
DROOOOOL.
I don't understand why Jeff is trying to out-Snow Snow.
Sallyh, I worked late and didn't get to cook dinner tonight (although I had a small brioche and coffee earlier from a neat little local coffee shop).
I'll be right over.
-- A relatively high percentage of babies born in the U.S. die before their first birthday, compared with other industrialized nations.
I blame abortion.
counting the 14,000 votes.
i was just reading elsewhere that the expectations were for 30,000 turning out. this is waaaaaayyyyy below projections -- perhaps a sign of republican disnechantment...?
Stupid fucking Iowa Republicans can't even conduct a simple star poll. Id there anything the GOP can't fuck up?
I believe there's a correlation here. A negative one.
Don't have to be a statistician to figure that one out.
The conversation about class won't return until somebody figures out a way to let blu collar folk rule. Rich folk rule the democratic party and they won't talk about class because they know their lives suck.
Oh the votes are coming in now at the Iowa Caucus.
14, 000 votes
Romney 4516
Huckabee 2,587
Brownbeck 2,192
Tancredo 1,961
Paul 1,305
Tommy Thompason 1,039
Fred Thompson 203
Giuliani 183
Hunter 174
McCain 101
Cox 41
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!~
You all were right. Shoe is a fucking coward. And an asshole. I've seen his true colors, and he is nothing but a coward. I am sorry to you all, I trusted in him and I got the shaft, I got fucked, I got shit on, I got treated worse than anyone should ever treat another person. I should never have defended him, he would nver defend me. He has used me and I am nothing but a fool.
I am sorry. I have been nothing but stupid. He's had me so fucked up, I don't know what is what, if I am coming or going, or truly anything other than wondering all the time what I will do to piss him off and set him off.
Please forgive me, even if you still hate me, I am sorry.
[knock, knock]
This thing still working?
Toby lecturing anybody on prioritization is almost as amusing as seeing him killfiled.
I mostly feel sorry for him. What a way to have to live.
Used to be respectable folk'd have to travel many miles and pay 4 bits to see the dog-faced boy and the geek rub their own shit in their hair, rip apart live chickens, and scream "Look At ME!!"
Now they come here do it for free in your computer.
And so ended the delicate economy of the circus freak show...
Actually, I do think Toby has a point - I'm fairly certain *he* is dissuaded from acting out his sociopathy by his fear of being caught and punished. That others might not seek to hurt others simply because they have no desire to must sound like a goddamn lie to him.
Stupid fucking Iowa Republicans can't even conduct a simple star poll. Id there anything the GOP can't fuck up?
The Old Man From Scene 24 | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 9:28 pm | #
They could fuck up a one man parade.
The conversation about class won't return until somebody figures out a way to let blu collar folk rule. Rich folk rule the democratic party and they won't talk about class because they know their lives suck.
Even so, Larry the cable guy does not speak for me.
i was just reading elsewhere that the expectations were for 30,000 turning out. this is waaaaaayyyyy below projections -- perhaps a sign of republican disnechantment...?
SPIN CENTRAL is working overtime.
i was just reading elsewhere that the expectations were for 30,000 turning out. this is waaaaaayyyyy below projections -- perhaps a sign of republican disnechantment...?
I was wandering how this stacked up to previous years, as 14,000 sounded low to me. Wouldn't it be a shame if the GOP continued to implode for the foreseeable future?
Jeff:
That others might not seek to hurt others simply because they have no desire to must sound like a goddamn lie to him.
Only a sociopath would look down on others for having human thoughts and feelings. That's what you're saying. You regard yourself as super-rational. In fact, you are delusional.
Toby lecturing anybody on prioritization is almost as amusing as seeing him killfiled.
Killfile is way more fun! I just killfiled your stalker
I have been nothing but stupid.
I don't think truer words have ever been spoken here.
Actually, I do think Toby has a point - I'm fairly certain *he* is dissuaded from acting out his sociopathy by his fear of being caught and punished. That others might not seek to hurt others simply because they have no desire to must sound like a goddamn lie to him.
JeffCO | 08.11.07 - 9:29 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
Absolutely. And here you're getting into what's wrong with the Right in general. They naturally assume that what scares them scares other people. They'd blab if tortured, for instance, so they assume everyone else will. Hence, torture "works."
You're right.
Isn't this the beginning of the Iowa state fair?
Maybe the folks are more interested in two headed pigs than that sorry lot.
I don't suppose anyone's interested in oven fried chicken, mac salad, four bean salad, farm fresh corn, garlic bread, and chocolate chip cream pie.
With choice of beverage, naturally.
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere
I'm on my THIRD ear of Olathe sweet corn with butter, lemon pepper and parmesan. But 'enkew!
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I can't take Toby's comments seriously, no matter how hard he tries. He makes me laugh.
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I love the killfile!
Romney 4516
Huckabee 2,587
Brownbeck 2,192
Words fail me.
Huckabee is a bigger story than Romney.
Giuliani, Thompson & McCain's totals are still hilarious, even though they didn't try.
Mitt spent millions to get a blow out and he came nowhere close.
And only 14,000 votes, that's WAY below the totals in 2000
The conversation about class won't return until somebody figures out a way to let blu collar folk rule. Rich folk rule the democratic party and they won't talk about class because they know their lives suck.
Even so, Larry the cable guy does not speak for me.
I don't want Larry either. But riddle me this: how many non millionaires are there in congress?
You know I'm losing my agnsoticism about global warming? Because of the commie assholes who make it into the new fascism.
Schmuckabee.
Bjorn: They could fuck up a one man parade.
As well as the shortarm inspection prior to the parade.
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Toby lecturing anybody on prioritization is almost as amusing as seeing him killfiled.
It's kinda funny that he pretends he's ever contributed anything here that didn't amount to the proverbial turd in the punchbowl. Like killfiling him was somehow a loss of an alternative view. When I want his opinion I'll watch Triumph of the Will, which gets his perspective across much more artfully.
Maybe the folks are more interested in two headed pigs than that sorry lot.
I'd say the butter cow, but it's melting...
I don't suppose anyone's interested in oven fried chicken, mac salad, four bean salad, farm fresh corn, garlic bread, and chocolate chip cream pie.
With choice of beverage, naturally.
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere
Always good eatin' (and drinkin') at Chez H!
And only 14,000 votes, that's WAY below the totals in 2000
LMAO!
I can't take Toby's comments seriously, no matter how hard he tries. He makes me laugh.
mer | 08.11.07 - 9:33 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
He makes me feel a little sad. But mostly tired.
But riddle me this: how many non millionaires are there in congress?
I'm guess few to none, but that too is as our landed gentry founding fathers had it.
I don't suppose anyone's interested in oven fried chicken, mac salad, four bean salad, farm fresh corn, garlic bread, and chocolate chip cream pie.
Mmmm.
Gastroporn.
There are still commies?
Ghouliani knockin' them dead out there!
Phila:
They'd blab if tortured, for instance, so they assume everyone else will. Hence, torture "works."
I think we should be pumping the Islamofascists full of LSD. The CIA used to do that sort of thing, so why not now?
Because of the commie assholes who make it into the new fascism.
Veerrrrrrrrrrrrry interesting perspective there, Tobes.
Mother Nature laughs at the "Master Race."
Just sayin'.
abcnews: ROMNEY WINS IOWA GOP STRAW POLL WITH 31.5 PERCENT OF THE VOTE; HUCKABEE FINISHES SECOND
Chris Mooney on Cspan.
McCain 101
McCain was seen thumbing a ride back to Arizona.
2000 GOP Straw Poll had about 25,000 voters
2008 straw poll, 14,000
Plus 2008 was delayed for an hour and a half because of a lousy voting computer voting machine. Learn a lesson Republicans.
I'm guess few to none, but that too is as our landed gentry founding fathers had it.
It is a flaw in the constitution. It must be righted, but never will.
What the fuck is a straw poll?
I admire Riefenstahl, but not for her Nazism, which I obviously reject.
What a poorly slapped together strawman.
There are still commies?
Yes.
I have it on good authority that everyone to the left of Brownback's wanking hand is a dirty marxist.
Chris/tx: McCain was seen thumbing a ride back to Arizona.
I bet that's closer to the truth than Grumpy McPouchy would like to admit.
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and what are we drinking chez voltaire ce soir?
equal parts
- red port
- bourbon whisky
- water
pour over ice
ignore complaints about ruining the good port
i call it "Blood on the Playa"
cheers!
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You regard yourself as super-rational. In fact, you are delusional.
Actually, I regard myself as superfly. I'm gonna make my fortune by and by, but if I lose, don't ask no questions why. The only game I know is Do or Die.
"Comment by annieangel blocked. [unkill][show comment]"
Swell, Allan the schizo asswipe. is having a breakdown.
Well, not that I'll be seeing anymore of it!
abcnews: ROMNEY WINS IOWA GOP STRAW POLL WITH 31.5 PERCENT OF THE VOTE; HUCKABEE FINISHES SECOND
Your Liberal Media ™
How about including "TURNOUT DOWN BY OVER 50 PERCENT" ?
What the fuck is a straw poll?
alps | 08.11.07 - 9:37 pm | #
Its for toothless strippers.
The CIA used to do that sort of thing, so why not now?
It doesn't work?
Pie, you know full well that the Gorebots and RFK, Jrs. of this world are Gaiists. With as much fervor as any other zealot.
3. Sen. Sam Brownback with 2192 votes and 15.3%
I knew a few commies back in the day. Serious types who wore berets and handed out a bunch of literature. But I don't think I've met an actual commie for over ten years now.
"What the fuck is a straw poll?"
Something that tickles Toby's fancy.
Anally.
I use a meter stick.
NTodd, God'sGiftToDouchebag
"How deep is your love"?
Like killfiling him was somehow a loss of an alternative view. When I want his opinion I'll watch Triumph of the Will, which gets his perspective across much more artfully.
JeffCO | 08.11.07 - 9:34 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
Come now. How else could we possibly get the conventional wisdom on Iraq? I mean, besides visiting the Corner, or turning on the TV, or talking to Bush-fancying family members or co-workers, or reading the batshit-crazy wingnut arguments that are constantly quoted or linked to on our favorite blogs?
What the fuck is a straw poll?
It's what goes up a GOP strawman's ass to keep him on-message.
a straw poll is where you pay people to come and stay over the weekend at a nice plush hotel and vote for you. He who has the most money wins.
What's this? A Toby and an annie in my Killfile trap!
McCain 101.
Sounds like some kind of freshman introductory course.
And a Coke for Chris Tucker...
Schmuckabee presents a mighty challenge to Tweety's man crash proclivities.
What the fuck is a straw poll?
it a fund raiser for the state GOP where people travel to a certain location and pay $35 (IIRC) to vote for a particular candidate. Its considered an indicator of early support and organization for the candidates.
I, for one, am glad that Iraq is now a stunning success. Surely this means we can leave now, right?
But I don't think I've met an actual commie for over ten years now.
Moe Szyslak, hating coal | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 9:39 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
I threatened one with violence at an anti-war march in 1991. One of those Trotskyite goons from the RCP. Wanted me to sign a pledge of solidarity with Saddam.
JP - I guess you saw Hecate's posting a few days ago about McCain - Instead of buying carbon offsets, he turned off the AC in his campaign offices at night. I don't think McCain will make it to the first primary.
I knew a few commies back in the day. Serious types who wore berets and handed out a bunch of literature. But I don't think I've met an actual commie for over ten years now.
Moe Szyslak, hating coal | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 9:39 pm | #
not easy to find them even here in ze pippleses respublic of brzzzzzerkley
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Heehee! Toby's going to not believe in global warming because he feels guilty about it, but he's going to...BLAME US FOR IT! HAHAHA!
Yes, the serious face of intellectually honest conservatives.
They have to PAY to vote for those dingleberries! LOL LOL!!
Learn a lesson Republicans.
IF they were capable of learning lessons they wouldn't still be Republicans.
But I don't think I've met an actual commie for over ten years now.
I talked to a couple LaRouchians in the 80s. Their dogmatism went to 11.
Moe Szyslak, Hi. You back home? Several early morning people have been pining for you.
Speaking of poorly constructed strawmen, I believe Toby's gonna be entertaining us all night. Must've gotten into Mom's Mad Dog 20-20...
"And a Coke for Chris Tucker..."
Thank you! Diet, please.
It's terrible, but true: I find myself rejecting the truth of global warming because of the stupidity and hypocrisy and outright ignorance of those decrying it most.
No psychologically normal person would spend time trolling a message board.
you know full well that the Gorebots and RFK, Jrs. of this world are Gaiists. With as much fervor as any other zealot.
I love teh Gaiists.
a straw poll is where you pay people to come and stay over the weekend at a nice plush hotel and vote for you. He who has the most money wins.
Plush hotel in Ames? The Holiday Inn was nice when we lived there.
Speaking of poorly constructed strawmen, I believe Toby's gonna be entertaining us all night. Must've gotten into Mom's Mad Dog 20-20...
Ah.
Night Train...After Dark.
Yes, the serious face of intellectually honest conservatives.
Not a reactionary bone in that boy's body. "Whatever lieberlz are for, I'm against, cos they suck!"
Toby admits: he's a terrible human being and loves to fuck strawmen.
it a fund raiser for the state GOP where people travel to a certain location and pay $35 (IIRC) to vote for a particular candidate. Its considered an indicator of early support and organization for the candidates.
It sounds like a false flag operation. Just another way to rig elections, I guess.
Hey mer. Yep, got back late last night, but had a speaking commitment to prepare for today. (Just returned from that.) I'll stop by in the a.m. for a howdy.
Nice life philosophy - rejecting the truth! You'll go far.
Sounds like some kind of freshman introductory course.
McCain 101: An introductions to Failed Presidential Candidates.
I call you people commies because you fetishize the state and believe ---against all evidence--- in egalitarianism. Or you play at it, anyway.
Must've gotten into Mom's Mad Dog 20-20...
What did Carville say about "waving a hundred dollar bill in a trailer park"...
Night Train...After Dark.
driftglass | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 9:44 pm | #
Quarts of Olde English!
I threatened one with violence at an anti-war march in 1991. One of those Trotskyite goons from the RCP. Wanted me to sign a pledge of solidarity with Saddam.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint
Oh yeah, I've had trouble with those types in San Francisco. They used to get pissed off when I wouldn't take their pamphlets (usually because I was too busy/in a hurry/etc....I guess that meant I was dancing to the tune of the Man.)
Rest assured, Tobes: no one thinks of you as an equal.
Toby keeps fucking the strawman, but only because he got it drunk.
"One candidate, former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney, has assembled an unrivaled operation for the event: a statewide corps of 60 "super-volunteers," who have been paid between $500 and $1,000 per month to talk him up; a fleet of buses; more than $2 million in television ads in Iowa; a sleek direct-mail campaign; and a consultant who has been paid nearly $200,000 to direct Romney's straw poll production, which will include barbecue billed as the best in the state.[...]
Romney, a former venture capitalist and multimillionaire who has lent his campaign $9 million of his own money, has hired buses to travel the state, picking up supporters. It will cost his campaign hundreds of thousands of dollars to pay the entry fee when they arrive. Romney snared the prime spot for his tent -- space at the event is auctioned off by the state GOP -- reportedly by bidding $10,000 more than rivals.[...]
A Democratic source who has tracked Romney's ad buys said Romney had spent about $2.4 million on TV ads in Iowa, beginning in February and running consistently since May. The source estimated Romney had spent an additional $2.5 million on campaign materials other than television in the state.[...]
But Romney is waging what amounts to a one-sided financial war, bidding himself up against candidates who have raised less money during the entire campaign to date than Romney is likely to spend just for the straw poll."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...7080902379.html
I talked to a couple LaRouchians in the 80s. Their dogmatism went to 11.
They're still here in small numbers. Working busy intersections with "Impeach Cheney" signs.
Gotta give 'em props for focus; you don't see the Dems here doing that.
Instead of buying carbon offsets, he turned off the AC in his campaign offices at night.
Here in Phoenix? See, 'cause that makes a certain amount of sense. I'm running the juice now between about 2pm and 11pm, myself. But tomorrow is scheduled to be 109+, so....
Come now. How else could we possibly get the conventional wisdom on Iraq?
The deepest thoughts I've ever seen Toby post here somehow always reduce to "Pull my finger." Nah gahna doit.
Heehee! Toby's going to not believe in global warming because he feels guilty about it, but he's going to...BLAME US FOR IT! HAHAHA!
Yes, the serious face of intellectually honest conservatives.
NTodd, God'sGiftToDouchebags | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 9:42 pm | # [kill]
Didn't know he was a denialist. I'm a little surprised...always had him pegged for one of those science-respecting wingnuts.
Toby loves his robber baron overlords.
They're still here in small numbers. Working busy intersections with "Impeach Cheney" signs. Gotta give 'em props for focus; you don't see the Dems here doing that.
See Toby, *that's* having the courage of your convictions.
Oh yeah, I've had trouble with those types in San Francisco. They used to get pissed off when I wouldn't take their pamphlets (usually because I was too busy/in a hurry/etc....I guess that meant I was dancing to the tune of the Man.)
Buzz Bomb | 08.11.07 - 9:45 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
Well, this happened at Dolores Park. So there ya go.
it a fund raiser for the state GOP where people travel to a certain location and pay $35 (IIRC) to vote
Wow, instead they could have had a nice dinner for 2 at the Cracker Barrel.
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I'm a little surprised...always had him pegged for one of those science-respecting wingnuts.
He puts on airs, but when push comes to shove, he'll reject anything that is advocated by commies, then to justify it, he'll call them commie fascist bastard people.
People
Who champion the cause
Of making Dubya into America's Sun King
Shouldn't really
Talk about
Other people's
Imaginary
Totalitarian
Habits.
Toby loves his robber baron overlords.
smalfish,suspect at all times | 08.11.07 - 9:47 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
Go team go!
Rip off the wings of a butterfly.
Looks like Charlie's got his stuff together. Namestealing, anyone?
Didn't know he was a denialist. I'm a little surprised...always had him pegged for one of those science-respecting wingnuts.
IIRC, he used to claim he preferred his air and water not be toxic. But now he seems to be saying that if DFH are going to insist on the environment not being destroyed then goddamit he's going to personally produce as much methane as humanly possible.
Toby Petzold! I loved you as Gimli in LOTR!
I once bought a fifth of Night Train. Poured it out at once.
I bought it for the label. The image of the old steam engine is gorgeous.
http://www.ghettowine.com/pics/n...ighttrain/
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a statewide corps of 60 "super-volunteers," who have been paid between $500 and $1,000 per month to talk him up; a fleet of buses; more than $2 million in television ads in Iowa; a sleek direct-mail campaign; and a consultant who has been paid nearly $200,000 to direct Romney's straw poll production, which will include barbecue billed as the best in the state.
4516 votes.
The actual commies aren't much into talking about global warming.
Yes, now the laughable charges of namestealing from the troll. I can almost set my clock to their behavior patterns.
The actual commies aren't much into talking about global warming.
Moe Szyslak, hating coal
Ain't that the truth!
Mittster is doing an admirable job of beating up on giuliani
never interfere when your enemies are fighting each other...
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The actual commies aren't much into talking about global warming.
The New Soviet Man will be invulnerable to mere nature
What is it with wingnuts and their insistence that everyone else acts out all these secret shameful fetishes?
Yes, that was a rhetorical question.
He puts on airs, but when push comes to shove, he'll reject anything that is advocated by commies, then to justify it, he'll call them commie fascist bastard people.
NTodd, God'sGiftToDouchebags | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 9:49 pm | # [kill]
Well, people like him are kind of over a barrel, at this point. Concede one point, and everything starts unraveling. Kinda like when the crooked senator in "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington" yells, "If he's a little bit right, I'm all wrong!"
more than $2 million in television ads in Iowa;
holy crap -- what could ad buys cost in iowa... must have been the mittster on your screen 24/7.
McCain 101: An introductions to Failed Presidential Candidates.
Lesson #1: once you've portrayed yourself as a "maverick", you can't get the religious loony base into your corner no matter how much you whore yourself to try and win their approval. All McCain managed to do with his attempted dick-sucking was alienate the relative moderates who had been his primary supporters in the past. That, and humiliate himself in the process.
No one's namestolen me yet, but it's only a matter of time until one of you loses it.
Would someone please come and get me?
What is it with wingnuts and their insistence that everyone else acts out all these secret shameful fetishes?
we're all going to have to become gay communist tax-raising bureaucrats to fulfill their straw man fantasies
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GWPDA - The article Hecate quoted from does not say which offices:
http://
hecatedemetersdatter.blog...esidential.html
Just says he did not buy any offsets like others, but was cutting off AC when no one in office. Makes sense, but kinda funny in context...
Well, people like him are kind of over a barrel, at this point. Concede one point, and everything starts unraveling. Kinda like when the crooked senator in "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington" yells, "If he's a little bit right, I'm all wrong!"
Phila
I think many of the 25% crowd are in that boat. They have too much psychologically to lose to admit that they were wrong.
One cat sleeping, one awake.
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IIRC, he used to claim he preferred his air and water not be toxic. But now he seems to be saying that if DFH are going to insist on the environment not being destroyed then goddamit he's going to personally produce as much methane as humanly possible.
JeffCO | 08.11.07 - 9:51 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
I'm telling you...if we want to rid the country of its most virulent wingnuts, all we have to do is have Al Gore and Hillary Clinton hold a press conference on the dangers of drinking Liquid Plumbr.
trifecta:
They have too much psychologically to lose to admit that they were wrong.
Wrong about global warming? Speaking of dogma!
How the hell do you think I'm going to MEET the next Mrs NTodd?
Why not the next Mr. What's Her Name?
It would be fun to see Toby as that Senator in Mel Gibson's version of Mr Smith...
One cat sleeping, one awake.
Cats on.
Cats off.
-- Mr. Meowgi
So Mitt spend five million for less than five thousand votes, damn, that's a thousand a vote. I could have done that.
One day, after we haven't seen Toby for a month or so, someone will turn up the small article from the back of the local paper, that Toby died from autoerotic asphyxiation.
While wearing his mother's lingerie.
The actual commies aren't much into talking about global warming.
I am reminded of a tune by Madison's Swamp Thing - Beautiful Communists. IIRC it went something like this:
"Beautiful communists, on parade
You see them on May Day in their pretty red berets
Or in cafes,
Talking tea and revolution..."
One cat sleeping, one awake.
technically, not enough syllables for a haiku, but we'll publish it anyway
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putzold. Many of the denialists are just denying because of economics. They don't mean it. They believe in global warming, they just don't give a shit, they will be wealthy and then dead before it gets really bad.
They then convince rubes, such as yourself, that it's not going to happen.
I've got a $10 off coupon against a $100 purchase at www.hpshopping.com for anybody who needs it.
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Don't dis the dwarves. Cave troll is the species you are looking for in this case.
HAHAHA! Now he calls scientific consensus 'dogma'! Next: 1+1 does NOT equal 2, you damned Groupthinkers!
I think many of the 25% crowd are in that boat. They have too much psychologically to lose to admit that they were wrong.
trifecta | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 9:55 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
To be fair, it's not just psychological. I know people who are in those upper-management old-boy networks...dropping the rabid-right horseshit means you give up friendships, trust, your reputation for "good business sense"...it's not an easy thing to do, especially for people who often aren't exactly brimming over with confidence or character. For some people, it's really the only world they've ever known.
One day, after we haven't seen Toby for a month or so, someone will turn up the small article from the back of the local paper, that Toby died from autoerotic asphyxiation.
Um...actually, you're mixing him up with me.
putzold. Many of the denialists are just denying because of economics. They don't mean it. They believe in global warming, they just don't give a shit, they will be wealthy and then dead before it gets really bad.
Shorter wingnut: What the fuck have future generations ever done for me?
I'm watching a program on Science Channel about black holes.
The mood music is from such films as The Matrix and The Last Starfighter.
They SO know their viewing audience!
I don't want to start any arguments or anything, but, er, arguably, McCain is doing more good by reducing his GHG emissions in the first place, as compared to trying to offset them after the fact.
I'm watching the Design-Las Vegas competition. They should all be shot.
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HAHAHA! Now he calls scientific consensus 'dogma'! Next: 1+1 does NOT equal 2, you damned Groupthinkers!
Is 'e 'avin a laugh?
especially for people who often aren't exactly brimming over with confidence or character. For some people, it's really the only world they've ever known.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 10:01 pm | #
like nazis or kkk, they have a desperate need to feel superior to someone. they spend hours every day nurturing their strawman 'liberals' and then poking needles into them.
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I saw An Arctic Tale today. Really good w/o being too preachy. Emotionally illustrated global warming's immediate effects.
Terms like "denialist" presume that the thing being denied is an undeniable fact. Anyone here who believes that our climate is unprecedentedly warm on account of anthropogenicism is taking it as an article of faith that it so when they cannot honestly know that.
It's a religion with you people.
HAHAHA! Now he calls scientific consensus 'dogma'! Next: 1+1 does NOT equal 2, you damned Groupthinkers!
NTodd, God'sGiftToDouchebags | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 10:01 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
The Anchoress likes that line, too...she claims that the more people insist something is true, the less she believes it.
I suspect she'll be injecting herself with HIV any day now, to prove what a fraud "scientific consensus" is.
I'm watching a program on Science Channel about black holes.
I wish it wasn't so difficult to find channels on this Verizon FIOS system.
I know people who are in those upper-management old-boy networks...dropping the rabid-right horseshit means you give up friendships, trust, your reputation for "good business sense"...it's not an easy thing to do, especially for people who often aren't exactly brimming over with confidence or character. For some people, it's really the only world they've ever known.
Well, that is all psychological, I think. And I know all too well about that situ: I "should" have left Stef 2 years earlier, and "should" have quit my job 2 or 3 years ago, too.
I don't want to start any arguments or anything, but, er, arguably, McCain is doing more good by reducing his GHG emissions in the first place, as compared to trying to offset them after the fact.
I'd be more impressed if that were part of a comprehensive effort on his part to reduce his carbon footprint. Otherwise, I'm going to take people who do offsets AND make other efforts, using offsets to fill gaps in their "necessary" behaviors. Like Al Gore.
I don't want to start any arguments or anything, but, er, arguably, McCain is doing more good by reducing his GHG emissions in the first place, as compared to trying to offset them after the fact.
Moe Szyslak, hating coal
Moe, that was rather my question. You see, out here in the desert southwest, we are taught early on that turning off, not taking, not using, being thrifty is the way to preserve our resources. Thus, we do things that in the great scheme are counted as silly - turn off the water whilst you clean your teeth! - but in fact have a fairly good weight to them. Turning off the a/c, or turning it on way late in the day is one of the ways we are taught to believe has merit....
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By and by, as of August 9 there is less Arctic sea ice than ever observed by humans. This year beats out the 2005 record, and there's still a month and a half of melt left.
smalfish: I wish it wasn't so difficult to find channels on this Verizon FIOS system.
Would this help?
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I don't want to start any arguments or anything, but, er, arguably, McCain is doing more good by reducing his GHG emissions in the first place, as compared to trying to offset them after the fact.
I don't want to start any blasphemous rumors, but I think McCain's got no sense of humor.
Now Tobes calls it a "religion"! Yup, pulling out all the stops.
GRAVITY = RELIGION. Gotcha.
I'm disappointed in Toby's climate thing, though. I knew he was nuts, I knew he was dishonest, and I knew he'd eat a skunk cooked in liquid pigshit before he'd admit being wrong. But I honestly didn't think he was stupid enough to be a climate "skeptic."
You see, out here in the desert southwest, we are taught early on that turning off, not taking, not using, being thrifty is the way to preserve our resources.
Sorry, it ain't unique to the desert southwest. I got that lesson in good ole PA.
it won't be too long before republicans will be blaming democrats for slowing down efforts to combat global climate change
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Anyone who wants to deny that warming is occurring. Go up to the Arctic in a boat and try to refute this. (scroll down to "Record July Arctic sea ice loss")
Then get back to us. Otherwise STFU.
Here's a little taste:
The melting of the Arctic sea ice will not raise ocean levels appreciably, since the ice is already floating in the ocean. However, it will bring warmer temperatures to the Arctic, which will accelerate the melting of the Greenland Ice Cap. This ice sheet holds enough water to raise sea level 20 feet--though much less melting is expected this century, with only a 0.6-1.9 foot sea level rise predicted. Loss of Arctic sea ice will also dramatically change the global weather and precipitation patterns. For example, the jet stream should move further north, bringing more precipitation to the Arctic, and more frequent droughts over the U.S. In any case, the reduced Artic sea ice should give us another delayed start to winter in the Northern Hemisphere this year.
I don't want to start any blasphemous rumors, but I think McCain's got no sense of humor.
JeffCO | 08.11.07 - 10:06 pm | #
And when I dye (my hair....Hair Hair Hair. Hair, beautiful Hair!!!!!!!!!!!!!).
Showing
Growing
Boeing
Cuz my Hair!!!!!!!!
GRAVITY = RELIGION. Gotcha.
NTodd, God'sGiftToDouchebags | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 10:06 pm | #
Intelligent falling.
Tralfaz -- I'll take a locally brewed beer, s'il vous plait.
I'd be more impressed if that were part of a comprehensive effort on his part to reduce his carbon footprint.
I am willing to extend him credits for 5 1/2 years spent at the Hanoi Hilton.
It's a religion with you people.
Religion is the opiate of the people.
Carbon offsets = purchases in the Treasury of Merit.
Y'all are so corrupt in your understanding of the climatological world that your new religion has emerged fully formed as Sixteenth Century Catholicism v. 2.0.
Nice going!
Intelligent falling.
And those who are dumb as rocks can levitate.
Terms like "denialist" presume that the thing being denied is an undeniable fact. Anyone here who believes that our climate is unprecedentedly warm on account of anthropogenicism is taking it as an article of faith that it so when they cannot honestly know that.
You're an idiot.
You go on believing what your media keeps telling you to believe. We all know you love being a slave to the machine with no returns.
Moe, it appears I owe you a tall cold one.
Y'all ar--
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I don't want to start any blasphemous rumors, but I think McCain's got no sense of humor.
Manchurian candidates are humorless.
Moe, it appears I owe you a tall cold one.
Tralfaz
Er, two, actually.
Moe, it appears I owe you a tall cold one.
Tralfaz | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 10:10 pm | #
That's what Toby sez before he fellates a corpse
I met a boy named Gilly Gonzylon on August 11, right here in front of Eschaton, but now dad gone, I've lost his address! He was last seen with his friend, a commie, who resembles George Takai of Star Trek, and he wears his hair tied in a small bow at the back.
Sorry, it ain't unique to the desert southwest. I got that lesson in good ole PA.
NTodd, God'sGiftToDouchebags
Well, you had to do it with that wet white stuff falling on ur haids.
But it's the same principle. Moderation is beneficial, extremity is not.
...I honestly didn't think he was stupid enough to be a climate "skeptic."
Whatever comes over the blastfax...
Now Tobes calls it a "religion"! Yup, pulling out all the stops.
And the best thing is, it's all the product of his own rational thought. He came up with the religion line all by his widdle self.
"I recognise the surface of the earth is warmer and that an increase in greenhouse gases caused by humans is contributing to the problem." --George W. Bush
"I wish it wasn't so difficult to find channels on this Verizon FIOS system."
Keep trying. They'll replay it later tonight.
Good stuff. Every galaxy that has a supermassive black hole at it's center, that black hole is always the same percentage of mass as the galaxy itself.
Something like one half of one percent.
Tralfaz -- I'll take a locally brewed beer, s'il vous plait.
Moe Szyslak
If it's my locality, that would be a Blue Point, Southampton, or perhaps one of the fine Brooklyn Brewery offerings. Pretty good choices, actually.
Moe Szyslak, hating coal, so if only three white guys die in Utah, it's not such a big deal right?
Thanks J.P.
I am willing to extend him credits for 5 1/2 years spent at the Hanoi Hilton.
Only if he held his breath.
Carbon offsets = purchases in the Treasury of Merit.
Wrong, but you go ahead and keep trying to pretend we don't need to invest in infrastructure, and charge hypocrisy so you can feel guilt free about not doing one fucking thing to combat the disaster you don't believe in, you intellectually dishonest dog killer.
Carbon offsets = purchases in the Treasury of Merit.
...just had to look at that one again. Truly priceless...
Moe Szyslak, hating coal, so if only three white guys die in Utah, it's not such a big deal right?
pie
Not sure what you're getting at.
But it's the same principle. Moderation is beneficial, extremity is not.
Afuckingmen, sister. Uh, Auntie.
So the biggest nutbags finished 2 and 3 in Iowa.
So the biggest nutbags finished 2 and 3 in Iowa.
Actually good news for democrats.
The biggest nutbag did not participate.
I'll be back later. I need to hydrate myself with limeade and Diet Coke for a while.
Keep poking the Toby with pointy liberal sticks in my absence.
Not sure what you're getting at.
Sorry. I think three of the people trapped are from Mexico, and I hate coal mine owners.
Three white men killed is nothing either, though.
Anyone who wants to deny that warming is occurring. Go up to the Arctic in a boat and try to refute this. (scroll down to "Record July Arctic sea ice loss")
Then get back to us. Otherwise STFU.
No, you STFU. Global warming is a religious cult created as part of a conspiracy between NASA, the UN, Al Gore, Billary Clinton, Rupert Murdoch, and the small group of malcontent scientists involved in the IPCC.
The earth isn't warming. And if it is, it's not anthropogenic (carbon isotopes notwithstanding). And besides, Al Gore's making it worse by taking too many airplanes.
Plus, warming is beneficial.
Met Office says world is warming up faster than at any time in 100 years
THE world is warming up faster than at any time in the past 100 years, according to a global climate forecast that reveals Britain will be 0.3C hotter by 2014.
Scientists at the Met Office's Hadley Centre have unveiled the first ten-year climate prediction model.
It shows at least half of the years 2009 to 2014 will be hotter than 1998, the warmest year on record. And their research predicts 2014 is likely to be 0.3C warmer globally than 2004. This is a sharp increase, as the average global temperature has risen by only 0.8C since 1900.
Moderation is beneficial, extremity is not.
That's false. If it weren't for the stupidity of most people, there'd be a much lesser need for cops or firemen or bureaucrats or whoever else works in the interests of fixing other peoples' problems.
Civil society depends on aberrant or extreme behavior.
So the biggest nutbags finished 2 and 3 in Iowa.
Actually, 1, 2, and 3.
But who's counting?
Ah, heck, Tobes - do I really need to call the Austin ASPCA?
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If it weren't for the stupidity of most people, there'd be a much lesser need for cops or firemen or bureaucrats or whoever else works in the interests of fixing other peoples' problems.
Like Scooter Libby?
I think carbon offsets are overrated at best, and dangerous at worst.
Not sure what that has to do with the reality of AGW, though.
Civil society depends on aberrant or extreme behavior.
You just explained yourself.
Prickstein, what should I be doing right now in my own little way to stop or slow global warming?
No, you STFU. Global warming is a religious cult created as part of a conspiracy between NASA, the UN, Al Gore, Billary Clinton, Rupert Murdoch, and the small group of malcontent scientists involved in the IPCC.
Besides, big oil is making gas cleaner! And if it wasn't for you libs, there'd be more gas available to pull our economy back up.
pie-- there are so many things wrong with coal, it's hard to know where to begin.
But nowadays when people ask me what they should do about global warming, I tell them to join the effort to ban the construction of new coal-fired power plants, and get rid of the existing ones. A necessary and good place to start, and easily explained.
Plus, warming is beneficial.
Also, all the planets are warming because of increased solar winds.
Prickstein, what should I be doing right now in my own little way to stop or slow global warming?
Pull your head out of your ass.
Shorter Toby: Moderation in the defense of sociopathy is no virtue.
...what should I be doing right now in my own little way to stop or slow global warming?
Keep your motherfucking piehole shut, brownshirt.
End. Of. Story.
evening bats
why is kim wilde on my monitor?
what should I be doing right now in my own little way to stop or slow global warming?
Stop talking.
I'm gonna sue Atrios for only featuring white musicians!
This blog sucks! And it's not very exciting, either!
It is true that we need aberrant behavior, lestwise we not need people to write killfiles.
Reminds me of Gary Oldman/Frederic Bastiat.
You know, when modern temperature recording began in the Nineteenth Century, most people were still using outhouses and leeches and kerosene lanterns. I'm supposed to take for gospel truth their climate data?
We don't know shit.
Welp, I'm spent. Nighty!
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Moe, when I moved to upstate New York, years and years and years ago, I tell you I was absolutely shocked at the retro nature of all varieties of power supply. I had absolutely no idea that current houses were heated by burning oil - that seemed to me even more old fashion than if they were heated with coal fires in the front parlor. I was aware, I suppose, that there were several major coal fired generators in the Southwest - but oil furnaces????? It was all right up there with discovering that the NE so deplored the use of hydro power that they favored the oil and coal business. Very, very strange.
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Toby's been Ayn Randed and neatly branded us communists cause we're left handed.
We don't know shit.
Wrong pronoun.
No, you STFU. Global warming is a religious cult created as part of a conspiracy between NASA, the UN, Al Gore, Billary Clinton, Rupert Murdoch, and the small group of malcontent scientists involved in the IPCC.
You left out the Illuminati, the Zionists, and the Church of the Sub-genius.
Prickstein, what should I be doing right now in my own little way to stop or slow global warming?
Do you really want to know, fat boy?
I'm supposed to take for gospel truth their climate data?
Yes
You know, when modern temperature recording began in the Nineteenth Century, most people were still using outhouses and leeches and kerosene lanterns. I'm supposed to take for gospel truth their climate data?
Can anyone really be this stupid?
Really?
I think your trying to stir things up.
There are too many fucking firemen in this country, and I for one am sick of paying fifty bucks a year to support the ones in my town.
Anyone stupid enough to let his house catch fire deserves what he gets.
Prickstein:
Do you really want to know, fat boy?
I asked, didn't I?
We don't know shit.
Toby Petzold
Which is worse: to think GWarming is real, and act accordingly? Or to think it false, and continue as we have, unabated?
Can anyone really be this stupid?
Yes.
Really?
Yep.
here are so many things wrong with coal, it's hard to know where to begin.
I know that. It's just that people like my sil are going to be told that six people died, and she'll shrug her shoulders and say, "Oh, well. Six isn't that bad."
Mitt Romney may have bought today's Iowa Republican Straw Poll, but history mercifully shows that the winner rarely ends up in the White House.
For the details, see:
"Flashback: Pat Robertson Wins 1987 Iowa Straw Poll."
You know, when modern temperature recording began in the Nineteenth Century, most people were still using outhouses and leeches and kerosene lanterns. I'm supposed to take for gospel truth their climate data?
There was also an icepack on the North Pole, and snow on Kilimanjaro.
Now: not so much.
Just coincidence, probably.
I think carbon offsets are overrated at best, and dangerous at worst.
I think they are good tool in the toolkit, as Gore recommends.
It was all right up there with discovering that the NE so deplored the use of hydro power that they favored the oil and coal business. Very, very strange.
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GWPDA
Nowadays most of New England is buying, or scheming to buy, Quebec hydro. If certain plans come to fuition, they'll soon be buying power generated at a gigantic huge new dam at Churchill Falls in Labrador. Mixed bag, that. Not a great idea, imo.
I think your trying to stir things up.
smalfish,suspect at all times | 08.11.07 - 10:25 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
It's hard to believe he isn't, given how easy it would be for him to educate himself on this point.
And yet....
My grandmother used to send us down to the basement to shovel coal into the furnace, no kidding.
I asked, didn't I?
So? You ask lots of things. Oddly, asking when calling me Prickstein makes me think you're...less than serious.
Which is worse: to think GWarming is real, and act accordingly? Or to think it false, and continue as we have, unabated?
That is essentially what I believe, Jeffers, but it's the zealot assholes out there who give it a bad name.
Politics matter here when there are laws in need of writing.
Or to think it false, and continue as we have, unabated?
Just had a flashback of that Twilight Zone episode.
But I think it was cold at the end. Haven't seen it ever again after the first time.
I think they are good tool in the toolkit, as Gore recommends.
NTodd
he doesn't keep them in the lockbox?
I think they are good tool in the toolkit, as Gore recommends.
NTodd, God'sGiftToDouchebags | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 10:27 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
Yeah, we've had this conversation.
snow on Kilimanjaro
There may be snow on the peak, baby, but, uh, the fire next time!
Hello.
Is Professor Wombat here?
Moe? Wouldn't you like me to come home with you?
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evening 4lg
Evening, all.
Anything egregious I should be aware of?
Meanwhile, speaking of Romney, I heard on the car radio that Thompson is planning to drop out tomorrow since he came in fifth. So where does that leave Julie-Annie, Big Daddy Fred, and Saint McCain, who all finished behind him?
My grandmother used to send us down to the basement to shovel coal into the furnace, no kidding.
JeffCO | 08.11.07 - 10:28 pm | #
Luxury!
My grandmother use to shove us into the furnace! And we loved it!
I think they are good tool in the toolkit, as Gore recommends.
NTodd, God'sGiftToDouchebags | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 10:27 pm | # [kill]?[hide comment]
I dunno. I'm troubled by it.
I guess they're better than nothing.
Meanwhile, speaking of Romney, I heard on the car radio that Thompson is planning to drop out tomorrow since he came in fifth.
Was Thompson ever in?
Anything egregious I should be aware of?
DWD - Pain at Eight
um...just keep your small animals indoors tonight
it's the zealot assholes out there who give it a bad name...
Brownshirts talking to the mirror... it never gets old!
GWPDA--
after much soul-searcing, I've decided against getting a dog. Just couldn't give it its due, with my lifestyle. At least for the present.
evening 4lg
Hey Matthew, what's happening?
Which is worse: to think GWarming is real, and act accordingly? Or to think it false, and continue as we have, unabated?
Rmj, Sylar's Evil Twin | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 10:26 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
Well, since thinking it's real would mean kowtowing to the archfiend Algore, the answer is simple.
It's hard to believe he isn't, given how easy it would be for him to educate himself on this point.
Indeed, hence my skepticism about his question. If he's so fucking educated and intellectually honest, I would've expected him to have looked into the myriad ways he could mitigate his environmental impact.
Was Thompson ever in?
The other Thompson, Tommy.
None of us is long-lived enough to know whether these things are cyclical or not.
Why is that not a possibility? The Sun has its cycles, the Earth has its seasons, and every last one of you knows better than the rest of us mouthbreathers the absolute truth of how the Earth transits through billions of years of natural being.
What laughable little pimples on the ass of Life you people are.
But, Moe! That doggie? He could take care of you!
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after much soul-searcing, I've decided against getting a dog. Just couldn't give it its due, with my lifestyle. At least for the present.
Get a pair of kittens.
Luxury! My grandmother use to shove us into the furnace! And we loved it!
We were never happier than on bituminous get one free day.
Any of youse DFHs seeing the shooting stars yet?
I dunno. I'm troubled by it.
Me too. But I think I understand where NTodd is coming from. It's a defensible position. Just one that makes me uncomfortable-- not because of what NTodd thinks about it, but because of where others will and do undoubtedly take it.
Problem with offsets is oversight. Kind of like toxic waste. Disposal is good, so long as it's done legally. But it isn't.
Carbon offsets sound great, but how do I really know you're offsetting my carbon usage? Kind of like buying "green" electricity. I keep expecting to find out I've been buying nuke generated power, without knowing it.
It's a question of trust. And of something being too true to be good.
fourlegs:
I guess they're better than nothing.
Heretic.
Shorter Toby: the world did not exist before I was born and will cease to exist when I die so fuck all y'all!
That was a split infinitive within a split infinitive, or something like that.
If he's so fucking educated and intellectually honest, I would've expected him to have looked into the myriad ways he could mitigate his environmental impact.
If I could apparate, I wouldn't need that new car.
4lg...haven't been around much. Busy with a new project and spending most of my spare time in my new kayak.
http://starbulletin.com/2007/07/...ness/
engle.html
THE call letters KUNT have landed at a yet-unbuilt low-power digital television station in Wailuku, Maui.
Alarmingly similar to a word the dictionary says is obscene, the call letters were among a 15-page list of new call letters issued by the Federal Communications Commission and released this week.
The same station owner also received KWTF for a station in Arizona.
From Skokie, Ill., comes a sincere apology "to anyone that was offended," said Kevin Bae, vice president of KM Communications Inc., who requested and received KUNT and KWTF. It is "extremely embarrassing for me and my company and we will file to change those call letters immediately."
Was Thompson ever in?
Apparently his campaign in Iowa was more effective than the three press-annointed "front runners."
Personally, I think the whole straw poll thing is a bunch of bullshit - but if the guy that finished above those three thinks it's time to fold up the tent, shouldn't the "gentlemen of the press" be peppering the people who finished below him about their own "viability"?
Moe:
Just one that makes me uncomfortable-- not because of what NTodd thinks about it, but because of where others will and do undoubtedly take it.
Translation:
Dissent from the group makes me nervous. I need to get some hot cocoa and rub my feet.
Toby=Shoe
I mean, really. Get it together folks.
If he's so fucking educated and intellectually honest, I would've expected him to have looked into the myriad ways he could mitigate his environmental impact.
Toby, I got four words for you:
DOBIE MALL RECRUITING OFFICE
You know who was really full of shit? Tycho Brahe. "Accurate observations," my ass Fucker was drunk off his ass the whole time, and they didn't even have ballpoint pens back then.
Yeah, we've had this conversation.
Yes, we've emitted quite a bit!
I dunno. I'm troubled by it.
I guess they're better than nothing.
No! They're not better than nothing! They are IN ADDITION TO SOMETHING!
Key bullet point: they are intended to fill gaps in behavior and help drive investment in long-term infrastructure.
Example: as much as I would not like to, I have to fly to DC tomorrow, otherwise my already-impoverished state becomes bad enough that I don't put food on my family. I've taken steps to reduce my carbon footprint, but am going to be basically farting into the atmo with my jet travel. How can I offset it? By looking giving money to an entity who is building facilities to generate "green" electricity, thus offsetting my negative impact in this instance.
It is not a substitute for change. It is a part of holistic, strategic change.
Ayn Randed and neatly branded
I like it.
4legs!
On HGTV right now, they're doing House Hunters in Santa Fe. Pretty neato.
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4lg...haven't been around much. Busy with a new project and spending most of my spare time in my new kayak.
Oh, nice.
I still haven't done the graphic I talked to you about.
Sorry, I guess there was some confusion about which "Thompson" was dropping out after finishing fifth in the Iowa thang - it is Tommy Thompson.
"Big Daddy" Fred Thompson finished sixth - followed by Ghouliani and Saint McCain.
the absolute truth of how the Earth transits through billions of years of natural being.
Humans had coal-fired furnaces and power stations millions of years ago?
Who knew.
Frank Rich column from tomorrow if anyone is interested.
http://home.comcast.net/~veritas...s20001/
rich.htm
Politics matter here when there are laws in need of writing.
You're an idiot.
The only reason politics have to be involved is because of the robber barons.
You know who was really full of shit? Tycho Brahe. "Accurate observations," my ass Fucker was drunk off his ass the whole time, and they didn't even have ballpoint pens back then.
And he didn't even have a proper nose, the violent motherfucker. Oh, not to mention he wouldn't share any information with that fucking astrologist cult guy, Kepler. Don't get me started on him, that son of a witch...
Prickstein:
[...]I would've expected him to have looked into the myriad ways he could mitigate his environmental impact.
No, you just chickened out when I asked you for ways I could take to make things better. You got nothing because your belief in it is merely partisan. It's another way you can feel morally superior to the consumerists who befoul the perimeter of your little WASPy clavern.
Toby, you obviously haven't followed the heated arguments over this between NTodd and myself. I don't want to rehash it, and so offer up live-and-let-live peace offering. This makes me guilty of, er, unease with dissent from groupthink?
I like it.
You done been Simonized.
Me too. But I think I understand where NTodd is coming from. It's a defensible position. Just one that makes me uncomfortable-- not because of what NTodd thinks about it, but because of where others will and do undoubtedly take it.
Moe Szyslak, hating coal | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 10:33 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
I don't think there's any real disagreement here. They have their place, as NTodd says. They need lots of oversight and transparency, as RMJ says.
Key bullet point...
How I hate Powerpoint!
4legs!
On HGTV right now, they're doing House Hunters in Santa Fe. Pretty neato.
Boo. On mine they're doing that stupid "Design on A DIme"
I muted it. Too annoying.
No, you just chickened out when I asked you for ways I could take to make things better.
Bzzzzt!
Prickstein:
By looking giving money to an entity who is building facilities to generate "green" electricity, thus offsetting my negative impact in this instance.
Hmmm. Looking into it, eh?
How committed!
How can I offset it? By looking giving money to an entity who is building facilities to generate "green" electricity, thus offsetting my negative impact in this instance.
Good enough. But why do you need a middle man? Why can't you invest directly in a wind farm, or use the money to insulate your house or whatever. Why does some non-profit administrator need a cut?
I can't believe I wasn't aware of this.
The Library of Congress American Memory
I don't think there's any real disagreement here.
Nope, there isn't. We're all coming at it from different angles, but working toward the same end, with similar concerns.
Fucking echochamber.
Y'all are so corrupt in your understanding of the climatological world that your new religion has emerged fully formed as Sixteenth Century Catholicism v. 2.0.
Nice going!
Toby Petzold
You argue with babble and generalizations. You present no data to support your view. You debate by calling your opponents names. Present some evidence to support your view, or shut up.
Saying NTodd hasn't constantly flogged his posts on climate change is like [I think you can finish that one yourself.]
Fucking echochamber.
NTodd, God'sGiftToDouchebags
This blog sucks.
Why does some non-profit administrator need a cut?
Moe Szyslak
some are for-profit, aren't they?
They'll show it pretty soon there. Hint - a one bedroom condo with a kiva fireplace, storage, beautiful patio, maple floors, kitchen - $135,000....
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Toby and annie and Zod, oh my!
They'll show it pretty soon there. Hint - a one bedroom condo with a kiva fireplace, storage, beautiful patio, maple floors, kitchen - $135,000....
Oh, nice.
But he's looking into it! Ha, ha, ha!
One thing I do love about the climate debate is watching wingnuts who know exactly how to handle the Middle East retreat into epistemological nihilism.
By looking giving money to an entity who is building facilities to generate "green" electricity, thus offsetting my negative impact in this instance.
Hmmm. Looking into it, eh?
How committed!
I'm fairly sure you know "looking" was redundant. My original sentence included "looking to give money..."
Thus, as I have taken concrete steps to reduce my emissions AND have purchased offsets, I'm reducing my impact.
Just doing my part to rock on -
Or in my case, BLUES on.
Howdy, all.
some are for-profit, aren't they?
I don't think NTodd would advocate giving money to a for-profit offset business. But yes, there are lots of them.
Can we drag this church behind a truck?
http://pageoneq.com/rssfeedstuff...ex.php?
id=14001
One thing I do love about the climate debate is watching wingnuts who know exactly how to handle the Middle East retreat into epistemological nihilism.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint
I'm sorry, can you spell that for me?
Here's where I buy my offsets.
My ex-wife designed their website many years ago. Founders are former coworkers of hers from Green Mountain Energy. And Barenaked Ladies have a partnership with them.
Tycho Brahe was also an asshole personally. Kepler on the other hand was both nicer and smarter.
Toby and annie and Zod, oh my!
And someone somewhere gives a flying fuck what these three maroons have to say because exactly why???
You know what I would like to see change- is this thing where people look at solar, etc. and try to see if it will save them money.
Why can't people just do it because it's the right thing to do, even if it costs them more?
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I'm kicking your ass by the sick light of a CF bulb, holmes, so does that get me some credit in the Treasury of Merit?
In the interests of handmade carbon dioxide offsets, I should say that I've found the right place to transplant my inadvertent Anna Apple tree. Once I pulled out the trash mesquite, a whole area on the side yard opened up. It should thrive, semi-espalier'ed. Pretty kuhl, growing apples in the Sonora. Thanks, Israelis!
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Air Canada now lets you buy offsets along with a ticket. They use a non-profit forestry org in BC. It's probably a worthwhile project in terms of forest restoration, but it does no good whatsoever on the global warming front.
Why can't people just do it because it's the right thing to do, even if it costs them more?
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork?
Wrote a paper on that very question in seminary.
Can't remember now what the answer was....
It should thrive, semi-espalier'ed. Pretty kuhl, growing apples in the Sonora. Thanks, Israelis!
Oh, that is cool.
So what happened with the borg yesterday?
Were you able to bid them a permanent goodbye?
I don't think NTodd would advocate giving money to a for-profit offset business. But yes, there are lots of them.
I'm not entirely opposed to profit. It's not any more pure incentive than other drivers, but it isn't inherently evil in an environment of other checks and balances.
I'm actually an advocate of the approach that it makes good business sense to invest in renewables and emissions reductions.
But yes, in general, I'd rather see profit's involvement be reduced.
Can we drag this church behind a truck?
But Marge, what if we chose the wrong religion? Each week we just make God madder and madder!
I'm sorry, can you spell that for me?
Rmj, Real Gone, Daddy-O | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 10:44 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
I forgot how.
This site commissioned an "independent" report on the carbon offset business last year.
I don't have much info on their own "independence," but the report was fairly interesting...
Couldn't they just attach those windmill fan things to the airplane's wings and power them that way?
It's probably a worthwhile project in terms of forest restoration, but it does no good whatsoever on the global warming front.
But more trees are a good thing for their own sake.
I'm kicking your ass by the sick light of a CF bulb, holmes, so does that get me some credit in the Treasury of Merit?
Oh, so you DO actually know there are some things you can do as an individual, eh? What else are you doing? What else can you do, fat boy?
Why can't people just do it because it's the right thing to do
Someone told me the other day that the solar water heating system I'm looking to install on my house will pay for itself in eight years. "But your TV," he says. "That never pays for itself."
fourlegs:
Why can't people just do it because it's the right thing to do, even if it costs them more?
Corporate tool.
And someone somewhere gives a flying fuck what these three maroons have to say because exactly why??? dave™©
Like you've never thrown rocks at rats.
Why can't people just do it because it's the right thing to do, even if it costs them more?
I pay 4 cents more per KWH for manure-generated electricity.
Where's Simels when you need him???
Speaking of reforestation, I think I read somewhere that Scotland has a big program to reforest the highlands.
I think that is a delightful idea.
You can tell I've pissed off Prickstein. Ha, ha. I've insulted his religion.
But more trees are a good thing for their own sake.
fourlegsrgood
Beer's a good thing for its own sake too.
Forests in these latitudes don't do any good in terms of global warming. Or so it seems.
Like you've never thrown rocks at rats.
Ummmm... no, actually.
We used to spray down wasp's nests with a garden hose when I was a kid, though.
Pretty cool!
it does no good whatsoever on the global warming front.
I'm still not convinced that creating carbon sinks does "no" good...
BTW, I saw a JeffCO truck on the highway the other day... I did a double-take!
Forests in these latitudes don't do any good in terms of global warming. Or so it seems.
No, but I'm sure the birdies enjoy them. 
I think I understand now. By 'religion' Toby must mean 'anything you suckers care about that is beyond your personal and immediate gratification.'
Toby thinks he's pissed me off. More entertainment from the guy who freely admits he'd like to light dogs on fire and destroy the environment because liberals would like their children to survive in the future.
Were you able to bid them a permanent goodbye?
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork?
As of yesterday, the idiot manager hadn't managed to file the paperwork to separate me from the Borg. 'Cause evidently going to the company website and filling in the form was too rough for him. I, however, shall be going in on Monday to return my laptop and stuff, corporate card all that, and that's it. I was very precise in my email to the newest little manager and his VP however. Idiots. If they don't file the paperwork of course, they don't take me off Payroll. So....
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your TV," he says. "That never pays for itself."
Moe Szyslak, hating coal | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 10:47 pm | #
Not true! I just got myself a ditech subprime reverse mortgage from robert wagner.
Geez Toby,
Haven't you killed yourself yet? You must have hit bottom in your miserable life by now being as all you have left is trolling liberal websites.
BTW, I saw a JeffCO truck on the highway the other day... I did a double-take! dave™©
Damned namestealers! I crack up every time I see a Borg Electronics truck myself.
I think I understand now. By 'religion' Toby must mean 'anything you suckers care about that is beyond your personal and immediate gratification.'
Seems rather gaiii.
Carbon sinks, yes. And forests are great carbon sinks in the tropics. But in Canada, the amount of carbon that is stored in forests about equals the "damage" done by the darker forests' absorption of sunlight (as opposed to snowfall). That's not an argument to cut down the forests, of course. Just saying it doesn't do much good in that department, and the resources are better put elsewhere.
By 'religion' (Brownshirt T) must mean 'anything you suckers care about that is beyond your personal and immediate gratification.'
No, it's "anything that you aren't paid to type in from a fax sent to you by Brownshirt Central."
Beats dropping fries... especially since I hear they've really raised the eligibility requirements at Jack in the Box...
When driving back from the grocery store this evening there was an SUV in front of me with IMPEACH BUSH AND CHENEY in huge white letters.
You could read it a block away.
Corporate tool.
That's the single most stupid thing you've said all night.
If they don't file the paperwork of course, they don't take me off Payroll. So....
I hope you already took home your stapler.
Don't the trees cool things off in the summer though?
When I was a kid, there was a relatively brief flirtation with "global cooling." Anyone remember that?
It's a fashion thing. Changeable, partisan hysteria being whipped up by scientifically unqualified and essentially ignorant nihilists who hate humanity.
I've got a link on that somewhere here, lemme look...
Haven't you killed yourself yet? You must have hit bottom in your miserable life by now...
Remember the weeks of silence after the young mother he was stalking told him to fuck off?
BTW, did the Austin police ever figure out who offed her?
Okay, smalfish, to whom are you willing to give extra money for your utility-based needs?
Government or business?
It's a fashion thing. Changeable, partisan hysteria being whipped up by scientifically unqualified and essentially ignorant nihilists who hate humanity.
Now you're just embarrassing yourself.
Jeez, get some help.
Corporate tool.
Poor rat ocelot.
Seriously, Toby. Kill yourself. It's the only way out.
the resources are better put elsewhere.
See, I can't get behind that quasi-zero-sum game. Same as with offsets. If we were to only do one of these things, I'd agree, but the notion is that you must diversify your approaches. There is no single solution, and to assume our resources are so finite we cannot implement multiple prongs of a strategic approach is to basically admit defeat.
We're not going to change individual behavior instantly. We're not going to change societal behavior instantly. We're not going to kill global warming by holding in our farts, giving up beef, or detonating a bomb that destroys all petroleum-powered cars. Instead of magic wands, there are many components to the "solution."
Toby!!!111ones!
How ya doing, you fat fuck?
You have a lot of nerve showing up here, especially after you called the Marines serving in Fallujah "cowards" two years ago.
I hope you already took home your stapler.
JeffCO
(USB cable. Kuhl mouse. Yellow stickies.)
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Whoops, that last post was me.
It's tough to type with one hand covered in lube.
Hey woot, how are the wootlings?
The dems will fold, or the tick killer will just do it anyway:
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/s...tory/
18852.html
Russian media assert that the Healy's mission signals that the United States, along with Canada, is actively joining the competition for resources in the Arctic. Melting ice could open water for drilling or create the long-sought Northwest Passage for shipping.
Hrmmm. Big oil pays people to deny GW then we have this...
It's private business that's making all of the innovations.
But they do what they do for profit.
So are you willing to become a slave to the monopoly?
That's it - he's convinced me! Because some guys a hundred years or so ago declared there was nothing left to know, there can be no new scientific understandings! It's so simple! Yes! And because no one yet has set off a chain reaction of nuke launches, it can never happen! Phew!
When I was a kid, there was a relatively brief flirtation with "global cooling." Anyone remember that?
Yup. And it was real because pollution at the time was visible and causing solar radiation reflection.
Since then, the Clean Air Act has reduced visible pollution whilst allowing invisible pollution to continue. And, of course, as all science tends to do, we've accumulated more data and developed better understanding of climate change thanks to new technologies, including space travel which has allowed us to study other planetary systems.
Okay, smalfish, to whom are you willing to give extra money for your utility-based needs?
Government or business?
No, really.
You're an idiot.
My ex-wife designed their website many years ago. Founders are former coworkers of hers from Green Mountain Energy. And Barenaked Ladies have a partnership with them.
NTodd
Well, if the Barenaked ladies have a partnership with them, then it must be great......
(USB cable. Kuhl mouse. Yellow stickies.) GWPDA
No red Swingline?
FMC is trying, using 75% recycled materials and developing a mostly zero emission motor:
Take the all-new 2.3-liter Duratec 23E engine available in the 2004 Ford Focus. This engine is based on the same 2.3-liter found in the Mazda 6, but it features a host of technological advances to cut its exhaust emissions and earn a Super Ultra Low Emissions Vehicle (SULEV) rating in California. This means it emits only one pound of smog-forming pollution over 15,000 miles (a regular Zetec-powered Focus emits 10.7 pounds over that same distance, while my 1970 Plymouth GTX emits enough to create a small island). Even more impressive is the fact than any Focus with this engine emits zero evaporative emissions when it's not running. Between the car's SULEV rating and zero evaporative emissions, it actually creates the same, or less, air pollution than would be required to charge a fully electric vehicle's battery at a power plant — thus earning a PZEV (Partial Zero Emissions Vehicle) rating.
It's private business that's making all of the innovations.
All? Odd that they seem to keep partnering with institutions of higher learning and getting government subsidies...
Toby, you REALLY are useless. Just do it.
No red Swingline?
JeffCO
Nah. The Borg, after all, is BLUE.
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Hey 4legs--
wootlings are sleeping, praise Jeebus.
Mrs. wÒÓ† is hooked on Okami.
And Toby still hasn't apologized for calling the Marines serving in Fallujah "cowards."
The fuck.
Yup. And it was real because pollution at the time was visible and causing solar radiation reflection.
Since then, the Clean Air Act has reduced visible pollution whilst allowing invisible pollution to continue. And, of course, as all science tends to do, we've accumulated more data and developed better understanding of climate change thanks to new technologies, including space travel which has allowed us to study other planetary systems.
Your "facts" and "logic" only confuse and anger him.
This isn't the one I was looking for (I'll find it-- somewhere I have a climatologist's take on this), but it explains the issue:
Northern reforestation would lead to more global warming UN climate change conference told
Scientific evidence produced by Dr John Pomeroy of the University's Centre for Glaciology at the The Institute of Geography and Earth Sciences has been used to show that planting new forests in cold regions may lead to more global warming. This has been submitted to the UN's conference on climate change at the Hague.
The UK and now the EU have rejected the position by the US, Canada and others that planting new forests can compensate for existing carbon emissions from industrialized areas and therefore mitigate the need for reduced carbon emissions.
Pomeroy, using a weighed 'hanging tree', discovered in 1994 that the northern circumpolar or 'boreal' forest remains dark and sunlight-absorbing whilst snow-covered. They absorb much more solar energy than do open snowfields at the same latitudes. In related studies Canadian and US government investigators were unable to demonstrate a significant carbon sink in these forests.
These results suggest that expansion of these northern forested
areas, as proposed by Canada and the US, could enhance rather than reduce atmospheric warming in the late winter and spring in circumpolar areas. The UK Government has used these results as incorporated in a recently published modeling study by the Met Office's Hadley Centre in developing its position at the Hague.
Mrs. wÒÓ† is hooked on Okami.
First one's free, d00d.
So are you willing to become a slave to the monopoly?
You're an idiot.
The biggest difference between people like you and us, is that we know we're slaves to the machine. You refuse to even consider it. We choose to rebel against the status quo, you revel in it.
Mrs. wÒÓ† is hooked on Okami.
Oh, noes!!
Nice to see ya.
Moe Szyslak, hating coal
Moe, you miss the point. NTodd feels good being able to tell us all he pays 4 cents more for shit-powered electricity. He loves to give reports on his hybrid car. Don't tell him his pet projects and causes do no good. It makes him mad.
So, nobody's coming over tomorrow to repaint the study?
O-kay. G'night.
When I was a kid, there was a relatively brief flirtation with "global cooling." Anyone remember that?
Not from climatologists. It was a media creation.
smalfish:
The biggest difference between people like you and us, is that we know we're slaves to the machine. You refuse to even consider it.
And yet, somehow, I'm the one who made the point.
You're the one who won't answer the question.
Moe:
Not from climatologists. It was a media creation.
That's not what Prickstein's saying.
Noctilucent clouds, AIM sattelite and GW?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noctilucent_clouds
Creature of the wheel change your wicked ways!!!!
First, don't the trees have snow on them making them reflective too? Anyway, its awfully dark in the arctic in the winter.
Second, wouldn't the trees help cool the area in the summer?
Moe - yeah, we have to be strategic with the forestation. It's not inherently bad, but we need to figure out where the biggest bang for the buck will be.
Sorry, the the whole "what can I do to stop global warming" ends as soon as it affects our personal life.
We fly because it is convenient. We all waste energy. We all benefit from the burning of coal. That's the way it is.
So please, don't lesture us on being green and then telling us you fly because you have to. It's nice to be able to excuse your own actions, isn't it?
Bjorn, as I understand it, it's not a matter of trees cooling the ground. It's that flat white (snowy) ground reflects light (and therefore heat) back into space, while trees either absorb the light (in summer) or reflect it in odd non-space directions (in winter).
Second, wouldn't the trees help cool the area in the summer?
Trees don't cool the air.
Moe, you miss the point. NTodd feels good being able to tell us all he pays 4 cents more for shit-powered electricity. He loves to give reports on his hybrid car. Don't tell him his pet projects and causes do no good. It makes him mad.
No, you miss the point, Zod. I make a point to observe that it takes very little behavioral change to do some good on an individual level. But of course you and Tobes refuse to understand that sort of thing.
And it's super that you're once again constructively adding to the whole climate change thing. What are you doing? Anything? Or do you think that's as useless as trying to engage politically?
Do tell.
Man, with Toby, annieangel, and Zod here it's like somebody sprung the locks on Arkham.
Trees don't cool the air.
smalfish,suspect at all times
The hell they don't, bubba. Respiration, respiration, respiration, rah! And anything that prevents direct sun from falling on living surface of itself makes things cooler. Shade counts!
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Jeez o man, I go away for a while and this place is infested with trolls, assholes and Zod.
*sprays disinfectant*
I keep hearing that planting trees in the city helps alleviate the heat island effect. I assume that means they cool things off due to the shade and the evaporation effect.
So please, don't lesture us on being green and then telling us you fly because you have to. It's nice to be able to excuse your own actions, isn't it?
No, I do other things to be green and have reduced the amount I "have" to fly, offsetting the rest with much of the money I earn from such gigs.
It's not a lecture. It's making a point: that we can change some behavior. But if you want to get defensive about what you aren't doing, please feel free, Mr Tries Not To Be Holier Than Thou When Really Trying To Be.
Look, all I'm saying is when I put these new lightbulbs in my sockets, I will become a hero the hippie millions, thereby sending a rebuke to the Chimperor himself: "You will not crucify me on a barrel of oil!"
The hell they don't, bubba. Respiration, respiration, respiration, rah! And anything that prevents direct sun from falling on living surface of itself makes things cooler. Shade counts!
And trees are pretty. They produce oxygen and clean pollution out of the air.
And speaking of moral purity...
But, regardless, the bigger issue is the on-going melting of the tundra, just north of the boreal forests. The tundra melts, releases frozen methane. There's so much metane locked up in the tundra, we're hopeless if it's released.
There's also some overlap between the boreal forests and the tundra (yea, that's counter-intuitive, but true nonetheless). A big potential problem is that forest fires will melt the tundra underneath the trees.
I keep hearing that planting trees in the city helps alleviate the heat island effect. I assume that means they cool things off due to the shade and the evaporation effect.
Yes.
Moe's point is that they aren't much help in the far northern latitudes.
Look, all I'm saying is when I put these new lightbulbs in my sockets, I will become a hero the hippie millions
Not really, but thanks for trying. I'm sure you look better in the CF light.
Man are the Steelers going to suck this year.
Dirty hippies discussing climatological change = figuring out how many angels can fit onto the head of a pin.
Okay, I'm going to go ice my hand and watch a movie.
There's so much metane locked up in the tundra, we're hopeless if it's released.
That's pretty fucking scary. 20 times worse than carbon, bitches.
I love trees. My neighborhood is full of old and very tall ones and I hate the thought of having to leave them.
Man are the Steelers going to suck this year.
Probably not as badly as my Brownies, sadly.
Dirty hippies discussing climatological change = figuring out how many angels can fit onto the head of a pin.
Right, because it's so silly and unproductive to discuss what the issues are and how we can react on an individual as well as societal level.
Toby likes to fuck trees. Zod likes to demand the trees bow to him.
There's so much metane locked up in the tundra, we're hopeless if it's released.
Methane is in the peatmoss that he tundra is made of, right?
I love trees. My neighborhood is full of old and very tall ones and I hate the thought of having to leave them.
Toby Petzold
They'll get over it.
Night all.
.
Look, all I'm saying is when I put these new lightbulbs in my sockets
Ouch. Thats gotta hurt. Do you have to gouge out your eyes first?
I built a bamboo bicycle with the help from the professor and now I can power the internet with a backup computer battery thats hooked GM Delco AC generator.I can get about 2 hrs of inter....bzzztt.
The Arctic Tale movie did a nice job illustrating the loss of the arctic ice. It's like an Inconvenient Truth with cute little polar bear cubs and walruses.
If being "green" means Mommy can't use her vibrator when she massages my prostate - count me out!
Did I mention how much I LOVE Saturday nights!?!
Probably not as badly as my Brownies, sadly.
Who hoo!!
Hello two first round picks!
There is unrest in the forest,
There is trouble with the trees!
Two thumbs up for The Bourne Ultimatum!
Brownies are delicious.
Two thumbs up--
Where?
Oh, what a giveaway!
Two thumbs up for The Bourne Ultimatum!
Oh, good!
Here's UR evening kittehs.
http://plush-life.blogspot.com/2...us-
kitties.html
Two thumbs up for The Bourne Ultimatum!
Why do you hate the environment? You can't come here talking about how you used energy to watch a movie and then demand that Zod and Toby give up their RealDolls. HYPOCRITE!
You know when they talk about the banality of evil, they are talking about guys like Toby and Zod. They fancy themselves the tiny demon whispering messages of defeat and despair in your ear. They have one simple message with many variations:
Give up. All is lost. There's nothing you can do. You're a sucker for caring. Who do you think you are? You don't matter. You're not important. No one cares. You're being foolish. Everyone is out to get you.
My personal favorite: SURRENDER DOROTHY!
The only real response I have to li'l flying monkeys is
....BzzzTtt...
DayuMitt Ginger you cant plug your electrical banana in while Im on the tubes talking to the mainlanders!
I'm reallyl glad I forgot my glasses at the gym so that I can't read half of this shit.
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you gotta be bored or have no life.
The only real response I have to li'l flying monkeys is
I have li'l flying monkeys flying out of my ass. Paid extra. Much more environmentally sound than the giant vibrator I was using.
you gotta be bored or have no life.
In my case, admittedly, it's both.
Anyone who goes to movies supports the disfigurement of women, ie:boobjobs and face surgery. Men in movies are generally ugly, whereas the women have fake boobs and nose jobs.
And the pressure is put on women by the studios to disfigure themselves cuz all the jobs go to women who have.
So yeah, movies are wrong!
New God kill machine yeah baby, said Lord of the Engines! YEAH!!!!!!
Don't bring up flying monkeys. Atrios will have them on a plate if you do.
Methane is in the peatmoss that he tundra is made of, right?
smalfish
Essentially, yes.
It's one of the global warming feedback loops. Another is the disappearing Arctic sea ice: the ice melts (as at present) and the Arctic contains much more dark, non-reflective water, which makes temperatures even higher, which melts more ice, leaving more water, etc. There are a bunch of these, and they all seem to be kicking in.
[backs slowly out of the room]
In my case, admittedly, it's both.
NTodd, God'sGiftToDouchebags | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 11:25 pm | #
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You wouldn't be if you had a blog of your own......
How will it work, anyway? What entity does my indulgence money go to? The United Nations? I'll bet you degenerate Kyotoids would just love that! Carbon offsets as a way to enrich the UN! Saddam-like in its corruption.
It's one of the global warming feedback loops. Another is the disappearing Arctic sea ice: the ice melts (as at present) and the Arctic contains much more dark, non-reflective water, which makes temperatures even higher, which melts more ice, leaving more water, etc. There are a bunch of these, and they all seem to be kicking in.
IIRC, the injection of fresh water from the ice also fucks up the salt water convection cycles...
There's so much metane locked up in the tundra, we're hopeless if it's released.
That's pretty fucking scary. 20 times worse than carbon, bitches.
NTodd, God'sGiftToDouchebags | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 11:17 pm
Don't forget ancient resurrected bacteria!
http://rantsfromtherookery.blogs...orry-
about.html
I'm reallyl glad I forgot my glasses at the gym so that I can't read half of this shit. watertiger
HERE'S GARRETT MORRIS WITH THE RECAP:
TOBY: HIPPIES SUCK AND SHOULD DIE!
ZOD: NTODD SUCKS AND SHOULD DIE!
ANNIE: I SUCK AND SHOULD DIE!
THANKS, AND GOOD NIGHT!
YAY Cercopes!!!!
They dwell in the Whitehouse, me thinks.
You wouldn't be if you had a blog of your own......
[sobs, tries to blog about sobbing, gets shock from keyboard shortcircuit]
[backs slowly out of the room] watertiger
We hate to see you go but we love to watch you, umm, back away?
HERE'S GARRETT MORRIS WITH THE RECAP
Great SNL ref.
[GREAT SNL REF!]
[sobs, tries to blog about sobbing, gets shock from keyboard shortcircuit]
NTodd, God'sGiftToDouchebags
After viewing Thers take on their visit to your cabin, is there any water left in the lake?
IIRC, the injection of fresh water from the ice also fucks up the salt water convection cycles...
NTodd
The most recent articles suggest that particular scenario was overstated. Here's a news report on it:
Scientists Back Off Theory of a Colder Europe in a Warming World
Walter Gibbs, NY Times
Mainstream climatologists who have feared that global warming could have the paradoxical effect of cooling northwestern Europe or even plunging it into a small ice age have stopped worrying about that particular disaster, although it retains a vivid hold on the public imagination.
The idea, which held climate theorists in its icy grip for years, was that the North Atlantic Current, an extension of the Gulf Stream that cuts northeast across the Atlantic Ocean to bathe the high latitudes of Europe with warmish equatorial water, could shut down in a greenhouse world.
Without that warm-water current, Americans on the Eastern Seaboard would most likely feel a chill, but the suffering would be greater in Europe, where major cities lie far to the north. Britain, northern France, the Low Countries, Denmark and Norway could in theory take on Arctic aspects that only a Greenlander could love, even as the rest of the world sweltered.
All that has now been removed from the forecast. Not only is northern Europe warming, but every major climate model produced by scientists worldwide in recent years has also shown that the warming will almost certainly continue.
IIRC, the injection of fresh water from the ice also fucks up the salt water convection cycles...
Thermohaline conveyor =)
Society is becoming so efficient in its labor and technology that that in itself will eventually reduce energy consumption and improve the environment.
Have some faith in the marketplace, hippies.
You wouldn't be if you had a blog of your own......
[sobs, tries to blog about sobbing, gets shock from keyboard shortcircuit]
NTodd, God'sGiftToDouchebags | Homepage | 08.11.07 - 11:29 pm | #
Stop! I was just kidding! You have too much to live for! You will break the hearts of tody, annie, gary ruppret, zodd and the rest of your fans if you end it all.......
How will it work, anyway? What entity does my indulgence money go to? The United Nations? I'll bet you degenerate Kyotoids would just love that! Carbon offsets as a way to enrich the UN! Saddam-like in its corruption
Gawd you are a fucking idiot.
Look moron, carbon offsets can only work when in conjunction with corporate America using it's tremendous resources to conserve, reuse and replenish. None of that will happen without legislation because corporate America is so fucking greedy they won't do it themselves.
Have some faith in the marketplace, hippies.
On what basis? That the relaxing or abandonment of corporate checks has resulted in a worker's paradise?
Have some faith in the marketplace, hippies.
Toby Petzold
So, you're in favor of carbon caps and trading, huh?
FWIW, I think they can help nations meet reduction targets, if they're applied internally. International cap and trade schemes are worthless, imo.
We hate to see you go but we love to watch you, umm, back away?
wocka chicka wocka chicka...
I think we should pray away global climate change.
We hate to see you go but we love to watch you, umm, back away?
wocka chicka wocka chicka...
watertiger
That's better than going beep.. beep... beep... as you back up.
Kim WIlde. Very fancy. THough she appears in the video like being on drug rehab or sth.
We hate to see you go but we love to watch you, umm, back away?
if she backs away, we can't look at her ass.
Evenin', moonbatz.
Ever wake up with no idea where you are or what day it is? I hate that feeling.
(BTW, I'm at home. You know it's bad then.)
ALl brothers and sisters, I ask you to look at him...Does he have the marks? Do you see them???????
No, I do other things to be green and have reduced the amount I "have" to fly, offsetting the rest with much of the money I earn from such gigs.
sure you do. If that is the case, then why do those "gigs" anyway? Stay home, avoid the pollution, and feel good all at once.
And JeffCo, I don't fancy myself as a tiny demon of anything. And quite frankly, FUCK YOU, for calling anyone "Evil". Who the fuck do you think you are?
Anyone that disagrees with you, and the rest of you Atriots pie in the sky outlook are evil?
How did that stopping the war thing go? Keeping Alito and Roberts off the court? Getting rid of Gonzales? Changing Pelosi's mind? Should i continue?
I don't question your motives, just the overall smugness that you and the rest of this small but rabid community feels about your influence.
The minute you make a change, i'll be here to say I was wrong. Until then, suck it, douche.
IIRC, the injection of fresh water from the ice also fucks up the salt water convection cycles...
It may ultimately shut off the gulf stream, and plunge northern Europe into an ice age, oddly enough.
if she backs away, we can't look at her ass.
Faith is the evidence of things unseen.
(BTW, I'm at home. You know it's bad then.)
Sinfonian, discombobulated
Somebody hit the reset button and it's 1929... October...
Jeebus, I just got here and I've already had to killfile twice. Is there a full moon?
Hey Watertiger, where was everyone?
PS I can haz lolcon.
oy vey.
manana.
You will break the hearts of tody, annie, gary ruppret, zodd and the rest of your fans if you end it all.......
[sticks head in oven]
Society is becoming so efficient in its labor and technology that that in itself will eventually reduce energy consumption and improve the environment.
Have some faith in the marketplace, hippies.
The same market that got us into this mess? The same market that is concerned primarily with profit, not with society's benefit (or do you now reject Adam Smith?)?
Jeebus, I just got here and I've already had to killfile twice. Is there a full moon?
Sinfonian
Shit. All those Jeopardy jokes will go for naught.
It may ultimately shut off the gulf stream, and plunge northern Europe into an ice age, oddly enough.
Let's see them Yurpeens with their fancy shmancy socialist welfare states deal with that!
Har de har har!
Serve 'em right!
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Correction: three times.
TKK,
some were downtown, some were up.
and now, bon nuit.
sure you do. If that is the case, then why do those "gigs" anyway? Stay home, avoid the pollution, and feel good all at once.
I do have to eat.
But you go ahead and attack if it makes your penis feel larger.
Society is becoming so efficient in its labor and technology
All them energy-efficient McMansions and SUVs.
Really savin' the earth there.
This could help
http://ccoaler.blogspot.com/2007...rt-boot-
up.html
Jr. and I saw the Simpsons Movie today.
Many, many laughs were had. (Mostly by me, since many jokes went over the youth's head.)
It may ultimately shut off the gulf stream, and plunge northern Europe into an ice age, oddly enough.
Again, that particular scenario is doubtful. At least at current projections. But Hansen's latest paper suggests that the IPCC projections are way, way too conservative. If so, the Greenland and Antarctiv ice shelves will collapse *in this century* (!!!!!), raising sea levels about five metres (as opposed to the projected 59 centimetres). That'd probably shut down the ocean currents, but that'd be the least of our worries.
Holy shit,
Is Oakland Raiders owner Davis dead?
I know he was moving and talking and stuff, but that didn't convince me.
Faith is the evidence of things unseen.
[bites hole in tongue]
And JeffCo, I don't fancy myself as a tiny demon of anything. And quite frankly, FUCK YOU, for calling anyone "Evil". Who the fuck do you think you are? Anyone that disagrees with you, and the rest of you Atriots pie in the sky outlook are evil?
I believe I am the guy saying you *think* you're evil. (Nice touch using one of the phrases I indicated you use. Heh) And, it's not for disagreeing, as I have said repeatedly. Of course, you know that, but your faux outrage simply indicates further that you are... EVIL! Back to the Pit of Ultimate Darkness with you, Hecubus!
some were downtown, some were up.
and now, bon nuit.
Does this mean you aren't going to launch into your rendition of "New York, New York?"
Hansen's latest paper suggests that the IPCC projections are way, way too conservative.
Yup, it certainly looks so. Sigh.
How do you feel about adaptation efforts in combination with mitigation?
People who disagree with me aren't evil.
They're just fucking stupid.
OT but has anyone see the mysterious dragonfly machine? Is it the new drone like surveillance machine?
(/cue spooky music...)
http://rantsfromtherookery.blogs...ng-
machine.html
Does this mean you aren't going to launch into your rendition of "New York, New York?"
Stop spreadin the news.
I won't even blogwhore, since I don't have any new material posted since early this morning: a thrilling recap of last night's Bucs preseason opener in Tampa.
Buccaneerz 13, Patriotz 10. Many beers were consumed. Some by me.
Stop spreadin the news.
smalfish,suspect at all times
And the car battery is up and the something is down or is it the other way around...
Oh well, we are gonna cross the galactic horizon in 2012 and all your electronics are gonna stop working and people will go mad as your disconnected from the cosmic collective sub-consciousness.
...My Eschaton theory, anyway. =)
Stop spreadin the news.
I mean the one that goes "New Yawk New Yawk, a helluva town, the Bronx is up and the Battery's down..."
How do you feel about adaptation efforts in combination with mitigation?
That tundra is looking better and better.
has anyone see the mysterious dragonfly machine? Is it the new drone like surveillance machine?
Could be one of those micro-UAVs.
Or it could be the Dragonfly From Hell.
You decide.
People who disagree with me aren't evil. They're just fucking stupid.
Trollie apparently thinks all DFH are moral relativists who should refrain from calling someone whose only message is that everyone should give up and die evil. I do note that he did not dispute the banality charge.
JeffCO is nailing the TV comedy references tonight!
Ah, Hecubus ... I loves me some KITH.
How do you feel about adaptation efforts in combination with mitigation?
NTodd,
Sad.
I was thinking today: we're all going to die! I mean: we're all going to die. Regardless. I guess it's a question of how we leave the earth. We've got to plan for the next generation, no matter how small or fucked up it is. If that makes sense.
Even more important than "adaptive measures," imo, is conveying a sense of how the world works, humanity's place in the natural order of things, etc. I'd hate to see humanity learn nothing from the coming horrors.
That tundra is looking better and better.
smalfish,suspect at all times
The stuff that is thawing out and people are finding wooly mammoths and graves of blond-haired warriors in Siberia?
That tundra is looking better and better.
Well, given that an ice age will follow the warming, I'd say yeah, it's time to bundle up! We Slavs will rule the post-apocalyptic world. With the Inuit.
We Slavs will rule the post-apocalyptic world. With the Inuit.
And the Lapps! Don't forget the Lapps!
Even more important than "adaptive measures," imo, is conveying a sense of how the world works, humanity's place in the natural order of things, etc. I'd hate to see humanity learn nothing from the coming horrors.
Hmm. I agree we should teach the other stuff, but shouldn't societies also adapt to reality?
Isn't that kinda the point of changing behavior to mitigate impact? That's some of the message I get from Diamond, as well as just my own musings...
And the Lapps! Don't forget the Lapps!
Hedley Lamarr
Now you've gone and insulted the Poles.
Wow. We went from 56 visitors to 40 like that. Everyone's watching SNL? (I'm not.)
And the Lapps! Don't forget the Lapps!
Pffft. Reindeer fuckers.
Ah, Hecubus ... I loves me some KITH.
Thirty Helens agree- Hecubus is one of my favorites!
Thirty Helens agree- Hecubus is one of my favorites!
It's Hecuba, dammit, not Hecubus!
Mrs. Priam.
"What's Hecuba to him, or he to Hecuba."
Isn't that kinda the point of changing behavior to mitigate impact? That's some of the message I get from Diamond, as well as just my own musings...
NTodd
Yea. I agree.
But no doubt some will read "adaptive" as "rich people like me can still live richly."
I just read "The World Without Us." Interesting book, and I recommend it. Beyond it's huge conceit (humans get raptured away tonight), it's really a lesson in understanding our place in the world.
Did everybody fall asleep at their keyboards?
Morlocks and Eloi will survive.
As will Yvette Mimieux.
I just read "The World Without Us." Interesting book, and I recommend it. Beyond it's huge conceit (humans get raptured away tonight), it's really a lesson in understanding our place in the world.
Heh, it's on my wishlist. As much as I'm trying to downsize, I am still trying to add some things. I like to think it's for a good cause (don't tell Zod).
The Times article about not needing to fear the crash of the Gulf Stream warmth seemed to imply that the forces causing global warming are so strong they'll overcome that possibility...? Or...?
Send in the trolls.
I need some comic relief.
Have you seen that new Milky Way commercial, "Ode to A-8?" The woman talking to the vending machine:
"I admit I've strayed ... B-6 ... C-4 ..."
A veiled reference to explosives! Call Homeland Security!!
Weisman says that contrary to common belief, roaches and rats probably wouldn't do very well without us.
We Slavs will rule the post-apocalyptic world.
BS
Swedes can thrive anywhere.
(well at least as long as I've got a hat to prevent sunburn)
Blizzards or 115F, it's all good.
A veiled reference to explosives! Call Homeland Security!!
Good thing there was no reference to VX.
Otherwise it would have been Hello Gitmo!
I need some comic relief.
Hedley Lamarr
Oh, so now we're not funny enough for you? Well, pfft. Try the Orange Satan, pal. They're a laugh riot.
Swedes can thrive anywhere.
Swedes can make nice bedroom sets for all the other survivors.
Could be one of those micro-UAVs.
Or it could be the Dragonfly From Hell.
You decide.
Hedley Lamarr
Wow, fascinating stuff. Now I feel even less safe...
Todd you should telegig, then you don't need to fly. It's doable.
Weisman says that contrary to common belief, roaches and rats probably wouldn't do very well without us.
Moe Szyslak, hating coal
What about crows?
Did everybody fall asleep at their keyboards?
Well I'm about to, but there is an updated puppy picture at the homepage for those what's interested.
Try the Orange Satan, pal. They're a laugh riot.
That's a negative. You just don't get the ol' freewheeling repartee there that you get here.
Besides, Tobe may always pop in for another Kartoon Time.
What about crows?
Sadly, the climate change deniers will have eaten them all.
The Times article about not needing to fear the crash of the Gulf Stream warmth seemed to imply that the forces causing global warming are so strong they'll overcome that possibility...? Or...?
jawbone
That was a pretty shitty shortening of the article. The rest is behind the wall.
Anyway, what's being discussed is that the amount of Greenland ice melt expected from the IPCC temperature projections isn't enough to completely disrupt the gulf stream circulatory system-- what reduction in it that will occur will be more than compensated for by a general increase in temps.
But that's only if the IPCC temperature projections hold, AND if the entire ice sheet doesn't slide into the ocean.
The IPCC says that, at the 3 degree (C) increase, it will take at least 1,000 years for the ice sheet to fail. Hansen, however, says it will take something like 30 years.
The dragonfly is a test UAV from General Atomics.
http://www.ga-asi.com/
an updated puppy picture
Awwwwww! What a cute doggie-woggie!
It's colder in Iceland now than it was in the Viking days, btw.
Explain.
That's a negative. You just don't get the ol' freewheeling repartee there that you get here.
Heh. I know. As I often say, I don't come here for the snacks ...
there is an updated puppy picture at the homepage
Puppy?!? Criminy!
What a cute doggie-woggie!
We like her. And she's only 8 months old! The little monster.
Swedes can thrive anywhere.
Not in Greenland.
Todd you should telegig, then you don't need to fly. It's doable.
Duh. But that assumes the people in charge on paying are willing. You can't make a horse drink your piss, as we say in Texas.
What about crows?
ellroon
He doesn't mention them specifically, airc. But he does devote a section to birds, and says that if we don't disappear pretty soon, most of the birds will. It might have been the saddest part of the book.
It's colder in Iceland now than it was in the Viking days, btw. Explain.
Vikings are not in the Bible and therefore have never existed. Pictures of Vikings were created by demons like Zod and Toby to test your faith.
Sadly, the climate change deniers will have eaten them all.
JeffCO
Did everybody fall asleep at their keyboards?
Nope. I'm staying awake until my carbon-emitting flight.
He doesn't mention them specifically, airc. But he does devote a section to birds, and says that if we don't disappear pretty soon, most of the birds will. It might have been the saddest part of the book.
Moe Szyslak, hating coal
That is really depressing...
You can't make a horse drink your piss, as we say in Texas.
[Somwhere in Austin is the sound of a mug being slammed to the table.]
The dragonfly is a test UAV from General Atomics.
Are you sure? That dragonfly didn't look nearly as big as those Predator thingies.
It's colder in Iceland now than it was in the Viking days, btw.
Explain.
Cite.
Then think about how England is warmer than it should be given its Lat, and the jetstream and oceanic convection has changed.
Swedes can thrive anywhere.
Not in Greenland.
This Swede knows how to fish in the ocean. The ones in Greenland did not.
It's colder in Iceland now than it was in the Viking days, btw.
Explain.
annieangel
Read this.
Then you need to discuss why those clever Vikings named Iceland Iceland when it was inhabitable while Greenland was no such thing....
The dragonfly is a test UAV from General Atomics.
Shit, reminds me of a book I read when I was a kid...
Science says the weather in the North Atlantic region was fairly nice between the mid-8th century and the early 14th century.
That's why the Vikings were able to make those trips and establish those settlements.
Then--so the theory goes--the weather turned really nasty and it got too dangerous and costly to maintain North Atlantic traffic. So they had to give it up.
JeffCO
While you are just a moron. Nice to be able to set yourself up as morally superior, isn't it?
That's why you are one of the select few of the truly annoying buttheads of Atrios.
You, NTodd, Simels..... the douchebags of the netroots.
I see you didn't answer me regarding all the power you people wield to chnge the world, aka Alito, Roberts, the war, NSA, etc, etc,.....
Nothing? Bueller? Bueller?
You have nothing pal. Get used to it.
why those clever Vikings named Iceland Iceland when it was inhabitable
they were pining for the fjords
This Swede knows how to fish in the ocean. The ones in Greenland did not.
I suspect those Swedes did. They had societal issues, not individual...
Anyway, Kirk Douglas looked really kewl with his face all scarred up and Janet Leigh was definitely eye-candy.
Then--so the theory goes--the weather turned really nasty and it got too dangerous and costly to maintain North Atlantic traffic. So they had to give it up.
Hedley Lamarr
I read the Greenlanders by Jane Smiley. Fiction but attempted to show how the community got smaller and was slowly frozen out.
Anyway, Kirk Douglas looked really kewl with his face all scarred up and Janet Leigh was definitely eye-candy.
Hedley Lamarr
I have taken offense to Kirk Douglas' chin dimple.
That's why you are one of the select few of the truly annoying buttheads of Atrios. You, NTodd, Simels..... the douchebags of the netroots.
Woo Hoo! I've ascended!
Science says the weather in the North Atlantic region was fairly nice between the mid-8th century and the early 14th century.
Reykjavik was the South Beach of the Middle Ages.
You, NTodd, Simels..... the douchebags of the netroots.
I see you didn't answer me regarding all the power you people wield to chnge the world, aka Alito, Roberts, the war, NSA, etc, etc,.....
So you're saying you don't want to join us to help magnify individual power to actually effect change? Welcome to the Zod-22.
Duh. But that assumes the people in charge on paying are willing. You can't make a horse drink your piss, as we say in Texas.
NTodd, God'sGiftToDouchebags
So as long as someone else is paying for it, you don't have a problem polluting the shit out of the planet. Of course not. It's not your fault, is it?
That's the beauty of being a self-rightous smug prick - it's always someone else's fault.
Plant a tree when you get home, and recycle your pet's shit. It will make you feel good, and let you come on line to tell the rest of us how bad we are........ LOL.
Science says the weather in the North Atlantic region was fairly nice between the mid-8th century and the early 14th century.
I don't know what "science" says that. Not climatologists, anyway:
Medieval Warm Period (”MWP”)
Period of relative warmth in some regions of the Northern Hemisphere in comparison with the subsequent several centuries. Also referred to as the Medieval Warm Epoch (MWE). As with the 'Little Ice Age' (LIA), no well-defined precise date range exists. The dates A.D. 900–1300 cover most ranges generally used in the literature. Origin is difficult to track down, but it is believed to have been first used in the 1960s (probably by Lamb in 1965). As with the LIA, the attribution of the term at regional scales is complicated by significant regional variations in temperature changes, and the utility of the term in describing regional climate changes in past centuries has been questioned in the literature. As with the LIA, numerous myths can still be found in the literature with regard to the details of this climate period. These include the citation of the cultivation of vines in Medieval England, and the settlement of Iceland and southwestern Greenland about 1000 years ago, as evidence of unusual warmth at this time. As noted by Jones and Mann (2004) [Jones, P.D., Mann, M.E., Climate Over Past Millennia, Reviews of Geophysics, 42, RG2002, doi: 10.1029/2003RG000143, 2004], arguments that such evidence supports anomalous global warmth during this time period is based on faulty logic and/or misinterpretations of the available evidence.
Reykjavik was the South Beach of the Middle Ages.
There were vineyards in England.
No shit.
The presidential vacation-time record holder is the late Ronald Reagan, who tallied 436 days in his two terms. At 418 days, and with 17 months to go in his presidency, Bush is going to beat that easily.
Even so, this year's August vacation for Bush is a contrast to previous years such as 2005, when he dragged out vacation in Texas to five weeks. That was also the year Bush remained on vacation immediately after Hurricane Katrina hit.
Vice President Dick Cheney generally takes August off, often heading to Wyoming or coastal Maryland. Congress left last weekend and is gone until Sept. 4. The Iraqi parliament is taking August off, too.
Still, all this governmental time off is more than most Americans are taking. A recent survey by Yahoo Hot Jobs found nearly half of American workers did not take all of their vacation days last year.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story....on/
5042364.html
It's hard work, I tell you!
What's hilarious to me is that I can't for the life of me think of one single instance in which I've claimed personally to have the power to change jackshit. Trollie reveals his utter unseriousness in his little straw stereotype that doesn't actually fit me, just as he pretends to be outraged by making up things to attribute to me and then pretending to have a hissy. I gotta say, these guys work hard for their money.
I found this while looking for the sci-fi book that I thought I remembered mentioning a fictional company called 'general atomics'.
I guess there has not been one, or at least not one indexed by google.
During the late 1950s, Dr. Dyson helped design the nuclear reactor, Triga, and the Orion space ship at General Atomic Laboratories in San Diego, California.
There were vineyards in England.
No, there weren't.
I gotta say, these guys work hard for their money.
JeffCO | 08.12.07 - 12:15 am
You gotta ignore the little tiny man behind the curtain...
There are compelling reasons for considering the level of beauty in the universe to be greater than that would be expected under materialism.
It depends on an essentially subjective assessment of whether the overall level of beauty in the universe is greater than might be expected if God (or gods) did not exist.
/Bertrand
So as long as someone else is paying for it, you don't have a problem polluting the shit out of the planet. Of course not. It's not your fault, is it?
Do you really like fucking strawmen? Do you really want to consider engaging?
It is my fault. Just like the war is my fault. I haven't done enough to prevent any of it.
So I'm changing my behavior as best I can. And for the rest, I'm investing money into renewables to help offset what I can't immediately change.
What are you doing, Zod?
As noted by Jones and Mann (2004) [Jones, P.D., Mann, M.E., Climate Over Past Millennia, Reviews of Geophysics, 42, RG2002, doi: 10.1029/2003RG000143, 2004], arguments that such evidence supports anomalous global warmth during this time period is based on faulty logic and/or misinterpretations of the available evidence.
Gotta link for that?
I'd like to read it.
Hasn't this thread been rocked enough?
There were vineyards in England.
No, there weren't.
Moe Szyslak, hating coal
I've heard that there were...
off to google...
Douchebags of the Netroots would be a good band name.
Douchebags of the Netroots would be a good band name
Helen, Douchebag of the Internets, however, would probably invite lawsuits.
Q: What can I do to help?
A: Well, here's what I'm doing right now...
Q: WHY ARE YOU SO FUCKING SELF-RIGHTEOUD AND ALWAYS TELLING ME WHAT TO DO?
A: Uh...?
A lot of disputes rage in climatology:
Middle Ages, Easter Island, end of Bronze Age...
It was probably the Romans that introduced the vine to the UK around 2000 years ago; ever since that time there have been small vineyards of one kind or another. The Venerable Bede (c. 635-735) mentions vines in his ‘Ecclesiastical History of the English Nation’. In the Doomsday book thirty-eight vineyards are mentioned, some several acres of size. In 1152 wine from Bordeaux became available following the marriage of Henry 2nd to Eleanor of Aquitaine, this provided an alternative to our produce and certainly spelt the end of commercial growing here. Added to this the vagaries of our weather have meant that we have never been able to compete on an equal commercial footing with our opposite numbers on the continent, given that the varieties of vine tried here were mostly unsuitable for our weather.
http://freespace.virgin.net/dono...ey/
vineyard.htm
Now down to 36 visitors online.
What, do other people have better things to do on Saturday night?
(Don't answer that ...)
http://ccoaler.blogspot.com/2007...08/
blondie.html
wtf?
Now down to 36 visitors online.
What, do other people have better things to do on Saturday night?
(Don't answer that ...)
Sinfonian, discombobulated
Maybe if we all typed nude....
Helen, Douchebag of the Internets, however, would probably invite lawsuits.
My lawyer's already working on that.
So you're saying you don't want to join us to help magnify individual power to actually effect change? Welcome to the Zod-22.
NTodd, God'sGiftToDouchebags
I never said anything regarding that at all. i notice that your favorite debating point lately is "what are you doing", whenever you get criticized for things you do.
I never said that i was doing anything to save energy. That doesn't mean that I don't - I just don't care to broadcast them to the world. You, on the other hand, seem to relish in portraying yourself as the savior of the planet.
If you have to fly somewhere, then do it. If you drive a big car, then do it. Just stop the preaching to the rest of us. Stop with the "carbon offset" crap - which has been shown to be dubious at best - another "feel good" solution. Should someone with more money be allowed to use up more energy simple because he can "buy" his way out of it?
I don't think so. As far as effecting change, I will agree with you that it will be done slowly, over a period of time. I don't thing government will do a damned thing to make it happen. Doom and Gloom from me? no, just a couple of decadees of experience of seeing how government works.
I misspoke, sorta.
Here's page 7 of 42 (PDF):
Monks in medieval England grew vines as wine was required for sacramental pusrposes. With careful husbandry, vines can be grown today, and indeed, vineyards are found as far north as southern Yorkshire. There are a considerably greater number of active vineyards in England and Wales today (roughly 350) than recorded during the medieval times (52 in the Domesday Book of 1086). Vine growing persisted in England througout the millennium. The process of makign sparkling wine was devleoped in London in the 17 th centure, fully 30 years before it began in the Champagne region of France. Thus the oft cited example of past vine growing in England reflects little, if any, on the relatve climate changes in the region since medieval times.
That's the beauty of being a self-rightous smug prick - it's always someone else's fault.
Yes, that's right, accuse someone else of being a self-righteous smug prick, then immediately follow with...
Plant a tree when you get home, and recycle your pet's shit. It will make you feel good, and let you come on line to tell the rest of us how bad we are........ LOL.
Please, I beg you, let me catch my breath....
In 1152 wine from Bordeaux became available following the marriage of Henry 2nd to Eleanor of Aquitaine,
English imperialism can be traced by booze: Bordeaux, port from Portugal, rum from Jamaica, gin & tonics from India...
Maybe if we all typed nude....
ellroon
It doesn't seem to be working for me so far ...
What, do other people have better things to do on Saturday night?
We already had our weekly goat orgy here, so I can't imagine...
Maybe if we all typed nude....
[Maybe?]
But that assumes the people in charge on paying are willing. You can't make a horse drink your piss, as we say in Texas.
If they aren't willing to pay, then you shouldn't do business with them! Isn't it piss drinking to fly on a polluting machine when you could reasonably and not too expensively be sitting in front of a screen?? Don't let them dictate how YOU will do business.
Go green!!!
Maybe if we all typed nude....
[Maybe?]
JeffCO, One of the Select Few
It doesn't seem to be working for me so far ...
Sinfonian, discombobulated
Ack!
Please, I beg you, let me catch my breath....
JeffCO, One of the Select Few
go ahead. then at least try to make a comment, instead of being a dork.
I know it's what you do best, but try to use that melon for something besides a hatrest, OK?
I'm working to save the planet.
I'm working to boot the fucking Republicans out of office.
Maybe if we all typed nude....
ellroon
As long as none of you guys are Meatloaf, I'm in.
I'm working to boot the fucking Republicans out of office.
Hedley Lamarr
Amen.
Please, I beg you, let me catch my breath....
JeffCO, One of the Select Few
And as one of 35 out of 300 MILLION people in the US, I will surely rank your opinion right where it should be.
And on that note, I'm off to make popcorn and watch a movie w/ hubby..
Good night good and rational ppls!
try to use that melon for something besides a hatrest, OK?
Who writes this guy's stuff anyway?
Well, I'm going to call it a night.
G'night, all. Zod, annie, sorry I had to killfile all your comments.
No, actually, I'm not.
Till tomorrow ... 
off to bed. Later, all.
Plant a tree when you get home, and recycle your pet's shit.
Here, have some of these delicious brownies I just baked.
Who writes this guy's stuff anyway?
Bruce Vilanch's thrush.
go ahead. then at least try to make a comment, instead of being a dork.
My comment was that you do nothing here but ridicule people's efforts and mock them for caring and tell them over and over to give up and die. When challenged, you make shit up to pretend to be offended by. You're a laughable little johnny onenote troll who could not in a year convince one person to stop caring or trying, though that clearly doesn't stop you from seeing yourself a powerful agent of defeatism.
If I thought you of any consequence at all I might care about engaging you on some point, but as you've demonstrated with NTodd, you don't actually care about anything, so there's nothing really I see to do but laugh at you. Thanks for entertaining me though!
Here, have some of these delicious brownies I just baked.
Mmmmmmmm!
Goes well with a cold glass of milk!
Well, good night...and good luck!
I never said anything regarding that at all. i notice that your favorite debating point lately is "what are you doing", whenever you get criticized for things you do.
Yes, I always ask what others are doing. Usually that's in an exchange where people ask: well, what can I do; here's what I'm doing; well, that won't work; so, what are you doing?
So, what are you doing?
I never said that i was doing anything to save energy. That doesn't mean that I don't - I just don't care to broadcast them to the world.
So you don't want to tell us? You don't want to provide an example?
How...noble.
As long as none of you guys are Meatloaf, I'm in
What are you afraid I'll chip the porcelain?
If they aren't willing to pay, then you shouldn't do business with them!
Yes, of course, that's very realistic. And my whole endeavor is to have people give up on everything that allows them to live. Why, right now I'm wearing a loincloth and eating only smegma and belly button lint.
And as one of 35 out of 300 MILLION people in the US, I will surely rank your opinion right where it should be.
As we will yours.
I bought a composter! I recycle. I don't have air conditioning.
I don't cut my lawn if it's hot and hazy and I never idle my car.
Also, I try to buy fresh food with little packaging.
That's all I do.
I'll rewhore my Beyond Parody post because it totally it fits with the parodies known as Zod and Malkin...
You should place ideas like this in some sort of forum accessible to the public.
Since American contractors first swarmed into Iraq, animosity has run high between soldiers and private security guards. Many of the latter are highly trained ex-members of elite military groups including Navy SEALS, Green Berets and Army Rangers.
"Most military guys resent them," said former Marine Lt. Col. Mike Zacchea, who spent two years in Iraq training and building the Iraqi army. "There's an attitude that if these guys really wanted to do the right thing, they would have stayed in the military."
Zacchea, now retired in Long Island, N.Y., said that as a senior battalion adviser, he was offered jobs by several security companies, with average salaries of $1,000 a day. He wasn't interested. "I didn't want to go to Iraq as a mercenary. I don't believe in it. I don't think what they're doing is right.
"Really, these guys are free agents on the battlefield. They're not bound by any law. They're non-uniformed combatants. No one keeps track of them."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/
20070...gp_QI9Iygys0NUE
Non-uniformed combatants? Abu Ghraib them.
-
Sure it's realistic, I dunno what you do, but I'm sure there are people out there you could do business with instead, or you could like figure out a way to set it up yourself, I mean what do you really need? A webcam??
I bought a composter! I recycle. I don't have air conditioning.
I don't cut my lawn if it's hot and hazy and I never idle my car.
Also, I try to buy fresh food with little packaging.
Great!
What else can you do?
I dunno. Got any ideas? I use solar lights in the garden and the yard, I guess that's a good thing.
I think someone should invent solar nightlights that stick on your window. Lots of things could be solar.
Sure it's realistic, I dunno what you do, but I'm sure there are people out there you could do business with instead, or you could like figure out a way to set it up yourself, I mean what do you really need? A webcam??
Golly, annie, that's great. I'll tell the FDIC that I'm not going to show up Tuesday because I have a better idea. I'm sure that I'll get paid and be able to then pay my mortgage and my other bills next month! YOU TOTALLY GET IT!
So, have you stopped doing business with people who require you to travel? Who pollute? Who fart?
The most hilariousest part of trollie's attack on NTodd is his accusing him of laying the blame for climate change on everyone but himself.
Every goddamn blogwhoring comment NTodd posts starts with an ad nauseum mea culpa, almost as though he's trying in his small and douchebaggery way to lead by offering up himself and his failings as an example of what he's done that could be better and how he's trying personally to improve rather than tell other people what to do.
That trollie pretends not to notice this just cracks me right the fuck up.
We're still here?
glassware's piling up behind the bar and no one's swept the floor in hours.
I would totally make sweet, sweet love to JeffCO if it would end the war and reverse global warming. I'd even have his child. Then I would weep like I am now.
Sallyh, let's add to the glassware.
Hippocrisy is universal. The level at which an individual finds acceptable defines their seriousness.
In most things, I'm quite ashamed of my own hippocrisy.
I dont know what the FDIC is. But you are a strong person, you told the government you won't pay for the war with your taxes!!!
I'm sure you could think of a way, again, I dunno what you do. I don't think it's bad to fly anyway really, I mean the planes are usually emtpy so you are just filling a spot on a plane that is going anyway.
I do think however that it would be a good way to advertise what you believe in, you know? Green is in fashion these days, you never know who might be interested.
Drive-by "hi". How're all the Saturday stragglers?
Buzzy, I keep the martini glasses iced. Have one
glassware's piling up behind the bar and no one's swept the floor in hours.
Sorry. I'm trying to drink until just the right moment when the rebound effect will kick in so I can stay up until my flight.
I would totally make sweet, sweet love to JeffCO if it would end the war and reverse global warming. I'd even have his child. Then I would weep like I am now.
I'm pretty sure I would start weeping way before you.
NToddler, what time's your flight and where are you going?
TPM, you have hippos?
This might sweep the nation as a professional sport.
I dont know what the FDIC is.
Then you're pretty fucking stupid.
But you are a strong person, you told the government you won't pay for the war with your taxes!!!
Yes, I am strong for a regular guy. Thanks for noticing. Yet I still need money, like most people who have never learned to engage in subsistence farming. Plus I made promises to people, so I'm going to keep them.
Oddly, some folks make compromises. I'm compromising on the single flight I'm taking, balanced with offsets and other behavorial changes, and certain immediate life choices. Will I fly to DC to teach for the FDIC again? Yes. Once more.
Long-term? Nope. I'm banking on other revenue streams that won't be so energy/emission-intensive.
[shrugs]
Do we have trolls here tonight?
Someone never heard of the FDIC?
I thought that was something everyone had heard of.
TPM, you have hippos?
Want to be healthy: Drink and smoke.
Want to be a better father: Fall into same patterns as my father.
Want to be a better husband: Conive and manipulate.
Etc, etc, etc...
Buzzy, I keep the martini glasses iced. Have one
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere
Thank you my dear
Umm, NTodd, I know I don't get a lot of things but wouldn't God's gift to Douchbags be the cleansing material that is contained within them?
I wasn't suggesting you stop flying RIGHT NOW and to miss your next gig. It was more of a thing to think about. I guess I must be stupid, but I dunno what those letters stand for, don't really care either.
My comment was that you do nothing here but ridicule people's efforts and mock them for caring and tell them over and over to give up and die. When challenged, you make shit up to pretend to be offended by. You're a laughable little johnny onenote troll who could not in a year convince one person to stop caring or trying, though that clearly doesn't stop you from seeing yourself a powerful agent of defeatism.
Sorry, wrong again.
I post here, then I get moronic comments from people like you. If I'm so laughable, then ignore my posts. You can see me as an agent of whatever you like, but as I said before, when you can show me that your methods work, I'll change my viewpoint.
The amount of energy wasted in plces like this is astounding. I'm glad you have such a passion for politics, but until you people figure out that most people just don't give a shit, then you will continue to keep hiting you head on a wall.
Blame it on me or not, but it's the truth. Deal with it, asshole.
I'm pretty sure I would start weeping way before you.
Fine, I won't invite ChyDi.
NToddler, what time's your flight and where are you going?
6am. Going to Reag...coughgaspsputtergagfart...National. Spending 2 days exploring DC, then 3 days teaching at the FDIC's facility in Arlington. Also hooking up with Hecate for dinner Tuesday. Busy week.
Etc, etc, etc...
OTOH, you are made of porcelain and do not take up much space.
Oddly, some folks make compromises. I'm compromising on the single flight I'm taking, balanced with offsets and other behavorial changes, and certain immediate life choices. Will I fly to DC to teach for the FDIC again? Yes. Once more.
Long-term? Nope. I'm banking on other revenue streams that won't be so energy/emission-intensive.
[shrugs]
NTodd, God'sGiftToDouchebags
Cue up "Don't you know you are my hero" by Bette Midler.......
Umm, NTodd, I know I don't get a lot of things but wouldn't God's gift to Douchbags be the cleansing material that is contained within them?
Beats the fuck out of me. I only make up nicks based on insightful troll posts.
Do we have trolls here tonight?
Joe Klein's conscience
My Killfile has been blocking all sorts of crap tonight.
Cue up "Don't you know you are my hero" by Bette Midler.......
Yes, that's right, make it all about how somebody's trying to be The Best Superhero Ever. That's a super way to diminish what ordinary people can do.
And Dog knows we can't give examples of what we do so others can get ideas. That would be so...HORRIBLY BRAGGY AND EVIL AND SHIT!
Good on ya, Zod. You're pushing the nut forward. Bravo. You're surely my hero.
6am. Going to Reag...coughgaspsputtergagfart...National. Spending 2 days exploring DC, then 3 days teaching at the FDIC's facility in Arlington. Also hooking up with Hecate for dinner Tuesday. Busy week.
NTodd, God'sGiftToDouchebags
Funny. NTodd, sucking off the government's tit. Well, as they say, he needed the money.
You're wrong Zod. Most people do give a shit, but they just don't know what to do.
I also have a brick in my toilet. When I take a shit, I give a shit.
The amount of energy wasted in places like this is astounding.
Not by you, of course.
By everyone else.
Vanity of vanities, all is vanity and striving after emptiness....
Buzzy, ain't killfile grand?
Goes even better with Grey Goose martinis.
Someone never heard of the FDIC?
I thought that was something everyone had heard of.
Sallyh
When Shrub's first campaign for governor was about half-finished, Karl Rove explained to him the difference between Medicaid and Medicare.
Son of a fucking US president.
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Obviously my tags are not working. Must be after midnight. My superpower have expired until dawn.
Or something.
To think I gave up re-reading the Harry Potter series for this. O, the shame of it.
RMJ, we share your secret shame
Rmj gots slanties.
All that chasing after wind I guess
Funny. NTodd, sucking off the government's tit. Well, as they say, he needed the money.
Wait, now WORKING is "sucking at the tit"? So what exactly AM I allowed to do in your verse, Zod?
Can I eat? Breathe? Masturbate to pictures of Christopher Reeve or George Reeve?
Blame it on me or not, but it's the truth. Deal with it, asshole.
Umm, never blamed most people's ignorance on you, Sister Mary "I'm So Powerful" Sunshine. I seriously am cracking up that you keep pretending I think you are somehow important. I simply think you're a dime a dozen full of shit nattering nabob of negativism, and I defy anyone to come up with anything you've posted here tonight that does not confirm that assessment. What keeps cracking me up is that you keep pretending to be offended or angry or some shit by things I haven't said.
Oh, it's also pretty funny you keep insisting you're not really a defeatist, but you're not going to say anything here except that everyone should give up and admit defeat. Seriously, there's only a few of us left here - do you really think anyone at all is buying your schtick?
All that chasing after wind I guess
geor3ge
Well, there is a time for every purpose under heaven.
It's just clearly not my time for this purpose....
Wait, now WORKING is "sucking at the tit"? So what exactly AM I allowed to do in your verse, Zod?
Zod would be aghast to learn that I suck off the CA state government's teat, and they get their money's worth and then some.
Suck it, asshole.
I also have a brick in my toilet. When I take a shit, I give a shit.
Ok, that was genuinely funny! Good one!
Buzzy, ain't killfile grand?
It sure is.
Of course, it can't do anything about the folks upthread who kept cutting and pasting Toby's (blocked, to me) comments, thereby reducing Killfile's effectiveness. But then I know a lot of people get hours of entertainment tormenting that poor, stupid boy.
there's only a few of us left here
LIAR! THERE'S SEVERAL! EVEN...DOZENS!
Can I eat? Breathe? Masturbate to pictures of Christopher Reeve or George Reeve?
Brandon Routh just cried a bit.
Zod would be aghast to learn that I suck off the CA state government's teat, and they get their money's worth and then some.
How is Arnuld?
That's a super way to diminish what ordinary people can do.
I'm not diminishing anything that ordinary people can do. I'm dimishing people broadcasting all that they can do. You seen to enjoy letting everyone know what you are doing to save the world. Overly proud of it.
People do things all the time to help out. But for some strange reason, you seem to have the need to let us all know what you are doing. Can't you at least assume that most progressives are trying to cut back and make changes as much as you do? That's what bugs me, the fact that you seem to feel the need to let all of us know what you are doing.
Try to have a little faith in the rest of us. Being preachy gets old.
I have had company all day and am confused. FDIC - Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation?
It was kind of a strange day anyway. Mike and Karen were up visiting from Indiana. First time since the Presidential election when they were strong Bush supporters and actually held their hand up to me and said that they had made up their mind and did not want to talk about the election.
Their son is incommunicado in Iraq now. Not necessarily that something bad has happened but it has been two weeks since they have they heard from him and that is unprecedented. Before the election I actually tried to ask them about their son in the Army Ranger school (that precipitated the hand) I wonder how they feel now? But I did not ask.
So sad. Pathetic actually. These are good people. Simple people. But good people. Ill used and throw away people for the Republicans. But good people.
I also have a brick in my toilet. When I take a shit, I give a shit.
Well, shit a brick!
RMJ, we share your secret shame
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere
Merci
Sally, I sucked off Oklahoma's tit for a spell. Not that I got rick off it, but a couple dozen college kids can play a C major scale all the better.
Thanks, Jeff. I'm trying to work on being a better person. I've let others control me for too long.
I really do have a brick in my toilet.
I also have a brick in my toilet. When I take a shit, I give a shit.
I usually leave a brick in my toilet after I'm done. but if it works, i'll try it.
But then I know a lot of people get hours of entertainment tormenting that poor, stupid boy.
Honestly, I hardly ever do! [Hangs head in shame]
That's what bugs me, the fact that you seem to feel the need to let all of us know what you are doing.
Yeah, how dare you use a comments page to leave comments!
Try to have a little faith in the rest of us. Being preachy gets old.
General Zod, Evil
Said the kettle to the pot, which it also called "black."
I'm not diminishing anything that ordinary people can do. I'm dimishing people broadcasting all that they can do. You seen to enjoy letting everyone know what you are doing to save the world. Overly proud of it.
Odd, you ascribe intention to what I say, rather than, say...listening to what I say.
So when people ask me what they can do, I should remain mute? I should only tell them what they should do, and not note what I'm changing about my own life? Hmm...
Sally, I sucked off Oklahoma's tit for a spell. Not that I got rick off it, but a couple dozen college kids can play a C major scale all the better.
Take vitamin D.
Well Zod, maybe you can go put a brick in your toilet, maybe me broadcasting that simple little thing that I do will give you the idea to do it too.
Why not tell us what you do so we can get ideas from you? Why is it a bad thing?
Where rick=rich. Okay, that's my cue to go to bed.
AH-HA!!
See? Point proven.
Why not tell us what you do so we can get ideas from you? Why is it a bad thing?
annieangel
Never said it was.
Back to HP5.
Spinoza, he was aghast that the CFA was given raises, after five years of nada.
Ahnuld hates edumacation.
So when people ask me what they can do, I should remain mute? I should only tell them what they should do, and not note what I'm changing about my own life? Hmm...
NTodd, God'sGiftToDouchebags
I guess I missed the post where everyone was asking for your insight. sorry.
Oh, and it goes in the back part where the water is, not in the bowl. Just to be clear.
I asked Todd if he had any ideas what more I can do.
Spinoza, he was aghast that the CFA was given raises, after five years of nada.
Ahnuld hates edumacation.
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere
Clearly you should teach for love. Money just tarnishes everything. Unless people want to spend money to see your movies.
Actually, one thing I think trollie is being honest about is that every time NTodd says what he himself thinks he himself could be doing better (he himself), and what he himself plans to change in his own life to make it comport more with his own personal ideal, trollie feels like he's being preached at, that his own personal failings are being exposed.
I half imagine this sort of reaction in some people is what leads to other people getting nailed to trees.
Ahnuld hates edumacation and thoz nuhrses, doan get me stahted own thoz bitches.
I guess I missed the post where everyone was asking for your insight. sorry.
General Zod, Evil
Right after we asked for yours. Didn't you see either of them?
I guess I missed the post where everyone was asking for your insight. sorry.
Yeah, you missed Toby asking what he could do.
And, of course, it's always bad for people to volunteer ideas in a discussion unless they're directly asked. You're right. It's AWFUL! Almost as bad as when people come here and tell commenters that nobody cares what they're saying, and telling them that they should stop telling everybody what they're doing to help the environment and shit. That would be so STUPID!
Oh, and it goes in the back part where the water is, not in the bowl. Just to be clear.
Seriously, stick with this persona.
NTodd, God'sGiftToDouchebags
OK, I will ask you a serious question.
You drove a Ford Escape hybrid lately, yes? What did you think of it? If I want a $WD, do you think it is a good choice, or have you driven anything else you would recommend?
RMJ, trust me, I do love it. I'd be really sad if I was doing it for the money.
Ahnuld hates edumacation.
God forbid we support education. The Mpls bridge collapse of education will really hurt, if it has not already happened.
I half imagine this sort of reaction in some people is what leads to other people getting nailed to trees.
Jesus Christ, that's fucked up.
4wd, excuse me
We can has new thread plz?
kthnxbai!
Ahnuld hates edumacation.
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere
Ahnuld hates teachers unions, too.
I knew that analogy was going to lead NTodd to conclude he's bigger than the Beatles.
RMJ, trust me, I do love it. I'd be really sad if I was doing it for the money.
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere
Ah, well, that's my world nowadays. $$$$, not love. Picked up a great line: I'm no longer following my dream, I'm just a strap hanger on the subway of my destiny.
Sums up my life perfectly. Not that anyone asked, so I'm sure I shouldn't have offered. Still, I love that line. Fits well with Beckett's: "I can't go on. I'll go on."
Not that anyone asked, so I'm sure I shouldn't have offered.
Rmj
If I wasn't so put off by your presumptuousness, I'd ask where you picked it up.
Um, that was me up there. Yeah, bedtime.
If I wasn't so put off by your presumptuousness, I'd ask where you picked it up.
4wd
"Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me."
Not that you asked.
Night, all
Keep 'em flyin'
Well, I guess Todd must have left
"Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me."
Not that you asked.
Rmj
That's what I was asking you.
[ducks]
Speaking of unsolicited opinions, here's one I am reminded of tonight from a long-dead DFH psychic:
"Oh that all would realize, come to the consciousness that what we are--in any given experience, or time--is the combined results of what we have done about the ideals that we have set!"
Ah, well, that's my world nowadays. $$$$, not love.
Me, too. I like my job, but I can't say I love it. I'm not unhappy at work, though, and after all the shit jobs I've had, that's worth more to me than all the gold that has ever been mined. At my age (41) I'll take it. Yes, it's called settling.
You drove a Ford Escape hybrid lately, yes? What did you think of it? If I want a $WD, do you think it is a good choice, or have you driven anything else you would recommend?
I like the Escape, despite its annoying American interior design (it ain't kinsei engineering). But I've gotten used to the weird interface for most of the controls, it's got reasonable power, good cargo space (which is important for me to carry the dogz, camping equipment, etc), and I'm getting better-than-advertised mileage.
If you're just into fuel economy, don't get it--buy a Prius, or maybe even a diesel vehicle. If you have other requirements for transporation like hauling capacity, I've found it to be a good option amongst the various choices available today.
I hope longer-term I'll be able to trade it in for something more efficient that fills my other needs. Alternately, my needs might change, though I admit I'm not willing to give up my dogz at this point...
I knew that analogy was going to lead NTodd to conclude he's bigger than the Beatles.
Oh, fuck me. I'm bigger than John Lennon.
"Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me."
They were here this week to tape, but I completely forgot or I would have gone. I'm not sure how many of them actually show up though.
I hope longer-term I'll be able to trade it in for something more efficient that fills my other needs. Alternately, my needs might change, though I admit I'm not willing to give up my dogz at this point...
NTodd, The Christ
As far as 4wd or awd, have you driven anything that gets the gas economy the Escape does? I would prefer to go with a 4wd vehicle.
You know what'd I'd like to get? One of those gas powered scooters. They go far on like hardly any gas so they can't be too bad for the enviroment, can they? The electric ones don't go very far on a charge so I'd never use it to go far enough that I couldn't walk.
Ok, it's been fun. Time to take my sanctimonious moralizing offline though. Sweet dreams of realizing ideals!
Diesel? I had a Jetta it was always belching black smoke and they make a hell of a lot of noise. THey say that's normal with a diesel.
I had tons of miles on it when I sold it, it hardly ever broke down but when it did I had to go to a place htat dealt with diesel engines and those places are pricey and you have to kiss their asses.
It ran cheap though. Very cheap. But it wasn't worth the noise and the belching and the ass kissing.
I need the 4wd for the camping and hunting trips as well, so at this point i'm looking at MPG for a vehicle for one person.
LOL, kinda like Shoe. :D
As far as 4wd or awd, have you driven anything that gets the gas economy the Escape does? I would prefer to go with a 4wd vehicle.
Nope. My Outback was, I thought, great getting about 27MPG, but the Escape is getting about 33. Dad reports it was a bit lower in the winter because of the snow tires, but so was the Subaru.
I don't see anything out there with the 4WD/AWD that performs as well. I'm also still learning how to best drive it: I've always been an aggressive driver, but easing off on acceleration and braking earlier does wonders for mileage (even on regular vehicles, but more so on hybrids).
Are you looking at more urban or highway driving? This is definitely better at urban mileage, though not so pronounced as the Prius, which is really geared toward stop and go traffic.
Oh, fuck me. I'm bigger than John Lennon.
Are you bigger than John Holmes?
Are you bigger than John Holmes?
Well, we haven't measured cocks lately, but unless he's roided up, I'm pretty sure I can smack his ass.
Looks like one and all are having a good time as usual.
sweet sounds comin down on the nightshift.
hey Uncle Blodge.....
Mostly urban. The only thing I'm worried about is that the place I go hunting/camping is about 10 miles up a dirt road that is definitely a 4WD trip.
I'm pretty much a speed limit kind of driver. I need to unload the guzzler I'm driving now, and get into something smaller. The Escape is looking like the best pick right now, if I go 4WD.
Hi Sarah, hi Uncle Blodge!
I'm recovering from watching Gorgeous Grandbaby--she's so much fun and so tiring
Sarah Deere!!
having a good time? howzit?
Hi, Sarah.
ah grandkids - cept my three all see the way their brothers and sister act and claim they will never be parents. dunno why they think that.
oh - went to see the Phillies live and in person. they lost, dammit.
hey, Sallyh! Yes, they are exhausting (sweetly so, but, still....). That's why we have kids when we have the energy rather than just the inclination, I suppose, eh?
Zod - totally, I'd recommend the Escape. Good compromise on urban mileage with 4WD capabability and carrying capacity. Dunno if they're doing anything different with the 2008 model, but I really have been happy with the 2007.
Ford might actually get the hang of this, too, and build a better vehicle going forward. Toyota's got the advantage of learning curve, but they are targeting a completely different market.
It's too bad the Federal tax credit is gone. I don't remember when it expired, but all of a sudden I saw a bazillion Priuses on the road this summer...
UncleB....still going through some family traumas, but only to be expected, after all. We're still trying to find our footing. Each day, it's two steps forward, one step back - but the direction is good.
How about yourself?
speaking of commutes - my new school is ideally situated for using mass transit. am happy bout that yep yep.
hey, TinyPorcelainMouse! How's by you?
Through a study by CNW Marketing called “Dust to Dust,” the total combined energy is taken from all the electrical, fuel, transportation, materials (metal, plastic, etc) and hundreds of other factors over the expected lifetime of a vehicle. The Prius costs an average of $3.25 per mile driven over a lifetime of 100,000 miles - the expected lifespan of the Hybrid.
The Hummer, on the other hand, costs a more fiscal $1.95 per mile to put on the road over an expected lifetime of 300,000 miles. That means the Hummer will last three times longer than a Prius and use less combined energy doing it.
http://www.impactlab.com/modules...ticle&
sid=11001
NTodd, The Christ
thanks for the info. I think that is the way I'll go - I test drove one last year (non-hybrid), and it seemed to be a good vehicle. Plus, it will double my mileage. That's a bit of a start on saving, isn't it?.
"How about yourself?"
better than last night - when I was dealing with the news that one of my students from last year was shit and killed.
my new school looks like it's going to be really great.
and my mom says she's going to cook lasagna for me and the boys Monday. life at the moment doesn't suck.
UncleB....I did go out to dinner this eve with my lovely DIL to a Japanese place that was so unobstrusive we almost walked right past it on our way to another restaurant entirely. It was so calm and peaceful inside.....And the food was delicious. Made for a delightful evening.
Through a study by CNW Marketing called “Dust to Dust,” the total combined energy is taken from all the electrical, fuel, transportation, materials (metal, plastic, etc) and hundreds of other factors over the expected lifetime of a vehicle. The Prius costs an average of $3.25 per mile driven over a lifetime of 100,000 miles - the expected lifespan of the Hybrid.
The Hummer, on the other hand, costs a more fiscal $1.95 per mile to put on the road over an expected lifetime of 300,000 miles. That means the Hummer will last three times longer than a Prius and use less combined energy doing it.
Bzzzt!
hey, TinyPorcelainMouse! How's by you?
Switched jobs recently. My BP at one point was 198/110. That was on two BP meds. Took it last night, 117/78 on CoQ10, Apple Cider Vinegar and Hawthorne berry. I feel great.
Off to finish this creepy Peter Straub I can't put down in a bit.
Thanks for asking.
thanks for the info. I think that is the way I'll go - I test drove one last year (non-hybrid), and it seemed to be a good vehicle. Plus, it will double my mileage. That's a bit of a start on saving, isn't it?.
Absofuckinglutely, bitch!
Shhhh, I feel it's ok to buy a Hummer now. I really want one.
That means the Hummer will last three times longer than a Prius and use less combined energy doing it.
The annieangel is the yugo of trolls, and will rust out while intimate with you.
Uncle, I so sorry about your student. I knnow you are looking forward to next year being better.
And, mom's lasagna?? Well, hell. Life is Good!
Absofuckinglutely, bitch!
NTodd, The Christ
That's beeee-yaaatch to you, dude.
The Prius costs an average of $3.25 per mile driven over a lifetime of 100,000 miles - the expected lifespan of the Hybrid.
The Hummer, on the other hand, costs a more fiscal $1.95 per mile to put on the road over an expected lifetime of 300,000 miles
I'll also note the artificial assumptions about lifetime and other factors. Much has been made of this apples/oranges comparison.
Regardless, does it really warrant expiring hybrid tax breaks, but retaining credits for buying a fucking Hummer? I hold this truth to be self-evident...
TPM - congrats on getting that BP down so remarkably - good for you!!! Gol-dang, kid, you were getting up there, weren't you???
My '95 Subara Legacy just went over 200k miles. The mpg's have dropped from 27 to 15 recently. I've e-mailed Click and Clack several times, but they ignore me.
NTodd, the Christ. I strolled right by that one, did a double-take
Absofuckinglutely, bitch!
NTodd, The Anti-Christ
That's beeee-yaaatch to you, dude.
General Zod, Evil | Homepage | 08.12.07 - 1:35 am | #
There, fixed it.
"the yugo of trolls"
Why don't Yugo's sustain much damage in a front-end collision?
The tow truck takes the impact.
O.K. Off to get the heebiest of the jeebies.
I'm sure posted photos of random dead Spanish critters will be appearing soon.
Well, what if I buy one of those old Jeep Willys things? That way it's been on the road for ages already and is probably in the plus for each mile driven and they are way cooler than a Hummer, cheaper too.
NTodd, The Anti-Christ
You have a good night. Thanks again for the info.
Sarah, I think NTodd's more like Davros myself
later
damn only three weeks till it's back to teaching. time flies.
I didn't see one stupid meteor.
Is anyone home tonight? Enchidne? .. Thers? What is the record for comments to a post?
Awwwww... did I miss the "trolls play nice" portion of our program?
What a fucking shame...
Hummers aren't Hummers anymore. They're just Hummeroid-looking bodies on a Chevy Tahoe chassis. They might be smooth on the highway, but they won't take you any of the places that the original HumVee will take you.
Probably like 2000 or so. I get the credit.
"What is the record for comments to a post?"
I asked the other night when one thread went over 1200. was told then the record is close to 2000
yet more decadence from Human Fecal Matter; what's to expect?
I'm sure posted photos of random dead Spanish critters will be appearing soon.
TinyPorcelainMouse
Sleep tight, oh, wise one....!
Sallyh, sometimes I think of NTodd as Pan
Yeah, but can you buy a HumVee?? I'm not the off road adventurous type. I just want to hve a cool car for once in my life.
Sallyh, sometimes I think of NTodd as Pan
More of a crock pot than a pan.
spinoza....that got me guffawing....
("crock pot")
Sarah Deere-
My job here is done.
Wow. Sure had to scroll to get down here.
Yeah, but can you buy a HumVee??
I know you can buy used ones, but I'm not seeing many of them around anymore.
"I know you can buy used ones, but I'm not seeing many of them around anymore."
then again, I saw a chevy citation and a ford maverick within the last week. the maverick was broken down though...
http://www2.thecarexperience.com...?
p_car_id=30407
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh...that is like a quarter of the price of a hummer!!!!
spinoza, if you have done nothing else this day (and I suspect you've done lots), that one act is much appreciated. Laughing at least three X/day is my goal, and that was a good one! If you, truly, gone for the eve, sleep well.
...I saw a chevy citation and a ford maverick within the last week.
Saw a '68 VW bug "Baja" mod in Fort Bragg, CA the other day - $3300.
hi there, Gilly....How's your day/evening?
I wonder how much energy were using doing what we're doing right now? Seriously -- in watts, or kilowatts, factoring in everything involved.
we're
Spinoza, I'm not sure you've created the necessary level of chaos and confusion.
Only then will your work be complete.
"Laughing at least three X/day is my goal, and that was a good one!"
but by your own admission, you didn't laugh - you guffawed.
isn't this a rather glaring inaccuracy????
If Todd were still here I'm sure he'd do a play on words with "crock-pot."
Spinoza, I'm not sure you've created the necessary level of chaos and confusion.
You ought to see my lab.
"Saw a '68 VW bug "Baja" mod in Fort Bragg, CA the other day"
cool - but i can at least see why someone would keep that. who would want to keep a maverick?
I wonder how much energy were using doing what we're doing right now?
Quite a bit. Living uses energy.
"You ought to see my lab."
Myself, I'm partial to golden retrievers.
Myself, I'm partial to golden retrievers.
Better than golden showers.
Uncle...quibble not lest ye be quibbled.
"Living uses energy."
I've heard that.
I'm also reminded of that Bloom County you posted a few days ago.
"You ought to see my lab."
I'm going to guess that Mrs. Spinoza and I would be dismayed.
Jesus. I ate dinner, did the laundry, and watched a lousy movie, and this thread's still going?
Where's Echidne?
"quibble not lest ye be quibbled."
a quibbles - I'll take a large vanilla, extra thick.
Kids around here fix up Gremlins and Pintos, they put lights under them and huge speakers and fill them with bondo and put big tires on the back and look really stupid, IMO.
About 168 calories an hour, sitting on your ass.
"Better than golden showers."
golden showers? you need your plumbing checked.
I'm also reminded of that Bloom County you posted a few days ago.
One of my favorite fucking seriesessss ever, Precious.
Really, it hits home on so many levels. And is funny. And makes me hungry.
Quite a bit. Living uses energy.
We're so dependent on other peoples' systems and labor for this form of communication -- for almost any form of communication.
About the only thing we can do on our own if somebody pulls all the plugs is walk to where someone else is and talk to them in person.
Real deep, I know.
Katie O'Berine and Robert Novak use bondo for makeup.
Golden Showers? Didn't Lennon/McCartney write that?
a quibbles - I'll take a large vanilla, extra thick.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
you're loaded. Admit it.
"Golden Showers? Didn't Lennon/McCartney write that?"
well, if done correctly, don't they fill your eyes?
Frank Zappa. He can take about an hour on the tower of power as long as he gets a little golden shower.
Golden Showers? Didn't Lennon/McCartney write that?
NTodd, The Christ
anyone see that rather impressive juggling act to that song?
Ricky Martin said he likes it when someone pees on him in the shower.
"you're loaded. Admit it."
1 beer in my belly - or 7 bucks in my pocket.
either way, sadly no.
I just get like this at times.
I might add when i get like this someone usually accuses me of being bombed. trust me - if I'm drunk I'll tell you.
Golden Showers? Didn't Lennon/McCartney write that?
NTodd, The Christ | Homepage | 08.12.07 - 2:05 am | # [kill]
Chuck Berry, I think.
Sarah Deere | 08.12.07 - 1:56 am | #
Went out for some pizza with some friends. Damn good za! New York style, thin crust - you know, the kind that sometimes you have to fold in half - not the Chicago style that hides sausage in the crust.
And vou ?
Chuck Berry, I think.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint | Homepage | 08.12.07 - 2:09 am | #
Buck Cherry
hokaye sleep beckons.
i tell it to fuck off.
however, it insists.
going in 5
not the Chicago style that hides sausage in the crust.
My clients pay extra for that...
Gilly, mixed blessings, as the saying goes, but did have lovely dinner out w/lovely DIL - I mentioned it earlier. Went to Japanese restaurant we'd never been to before, and the experience was well worth repeating. Just enjoying these long-shadow days of late summer. They are so beautiful, enough to make you glad for being human and to have all these senses at your disposal. Good to be alive.
My clients pay extra for that...
NTodd, The Christ | Homepage | 08.12.07 - 2:13 am | #
Onion Ringer, eh ?
My clients pay extra for that...
Extra cheese?
oh, Uncle...you were just in for a short visit this eve, I see. I'm always so glad to see you. Sleep well, sweet dreams, and I'm glad you're kinda goofy even while straight. {{{hugs}}}
SD
Sarah Deere | 08.12.07 - 2:13 am | #
Even in the city, the sounds of crickets chirping. (And car alarms)
Just enjoying these long-shadow days of late summer. They are so beautiful, enough to make you glad for being human and to have all these senses at your disposal. Good to be alive.
The Golden Hour, as my ex-grandparents-in-law used to say as we were enjoying drinks up in the Boundary Waters this time of year. Makes me rather nostalgiac...
"I'm glad you're kinda goofy even while straight."
I can be extremely goofy when straight.
when drunk I tend to bitch about stuff like my divorce and neck injury.
going for real this time - bye
Just enjoying these long-shadow days of late summer. They are so beautiful, enough to make you glad for being human and to have all these senses at your disposal. Good to be alive.
The fact that you can feel this way, despite everything, makes me feel even stupider for being in such a rotten mood.
Time to snap out of it, I guess.
Did anyone see a meteor? I want to go to bed, but I want to see one first and I haven't seen anything but stupid stars and satellites.
Phila...we are all entitled to our moods. We are human. Don;t think for a moment I don;t have mine. I'm just trying to find the ponies, and there always are some, I've learned.
....the horror!...the horror!..even some Dimocrats are acknowledging that the Surge Is Working..the horror!...the horror!...
what's an idiot Nutroot to do?
Jesus. I ate dinner, did the laundry, and watched a lousy movie, and this thread's still going?
Hey, that's what I said!!
Except I didn't do the laundry because my hand is still swollen.
4LG, why is your hand swollen? Is it the insect bite, the wasp, I think?
4LG, why is your hand swollen? Is it the insect bite, the wasp, I think?
Yep.
Got stung last night on the back of my hand several times.
okay - going out to shoot up. One more thing, Phila, please consider how much I need to see Life going on, everyone going about their business, having their shitty days, their triumphs, their failures, their giggles, their foolishness....it reminds me that everything keeps moving forward, and so must I. Besides, it's a helluva l;ot more interesting than the depression I was in last week when I wanted to crawl between the boxsprings and the mattress and suck my thumb and listen to the tinnitus in my aging ears, believe me!
Did anyone see a meteor? I want to go to bed, but I want to see one first and I haven't seen anything but stupid stars and satellites.
annieangel
The Perseid Shower major maximum isn't until after midnight Sunday night and early Monday morning. You should see some Perseids now but at rates only slightly higher than the normal background rate. Try again exactly this time tomorrow East Coast time.
As usual the media reporting on this type of event is less than accurate.
.
Shiite Militia Grows Bolder in Iraq.
Provincial Officials Killed In Southern Iraq.
Iraq-Iran Petriol Alliance Signed.
Everything's going great!
....the horror!...the horror!..even some Dimocrats are acknowledging that the Surge Is Working..the horror!...the horror!...
Which ones?
Besides, it's a helluva l;ot more interesting than the depression I was in last week when I wanted to crawl between the boxsprings and the mattress and suck my thumb and listen to the tinnitus in my aging ears, believe me!
Sarah Deere | 08.12.07 - 2:27 am | # [kill][hide comment]
I do!
Phil:
fold up your pup-tent! head for the hills! whimper pitifully! wet your panties! yell "eek!" to whomever will listen...
Agent Orange | 08.12.07 - 2:27 am | #
Thanks. Stupid media!!! Night everyone, I'll see you in a week or so.
Earth's Infinite Resources:
-"progressives"' preening moral vanity
-"progressives"' inability to think strategically
-irony, irony, and more irony
-etc.
IED fatalities by month.
Looks like roughly 70-80% r value as time goes on.
Monthly Civilian Deaths vs. Military Deaths.
Earth's Infinite Resources:
- Lubyanka's bullshit
- Rightwing strawmen
- irony, irony, and more irony
etc...
FUCK BUSH.
The bloody miscreant.
My hand is kind of freaking me out.
My hand is kind of freaking me out.
This is my hand and it freaks me out!
This is my hand and it freaks me out!
Oh, is yours swollen up like a mickey-mouse hand too?
4LG, do you need to go to the ER? Don;t be afraid of being a weenie about this. If it worries you, go, and go now!!!
Phila...Little Boots does not add like he subtracts. Or somesuch.
Filthy little fuckwad.
4LG, do you need to go to the ER? Don;t be afraid of being a weenie about this. If it worries you, go, and go now!!!
I don't think so.
I'm not having difficulty breathing and I don't have an all over rash- those are the symptoms of systemic reaction.
I think I'll take another benadryl and go to bed.
I'm not having difficulty breathing and I don't have an all over rash- those are the symptoms of systemic reaction.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? | Homepage | 08.12.07 - 2:50 am | # [kill][hide comment]
You'd already have anaphylaxis if you were going to get it, AFAIK.
Have you tried making a paste out of Benedryl? Or using the dissolving strips?
4LG...sleep well. Maybe some ice for the swelling? Take care of yourself!!!
Have you tried making a paste out of Benedryl? Or using the dissolving strips?
Phila, Pizen Sarpint
soaking in epsom salts?
Also good for drawing out poison, even this late in the game.
Oh, is yours swollen up like a mickey-mouse hand too?
Not now, but many a time. Broken bones and wasp stings. I know your pain.
Oh yeah, and I've dropped LSD. Hands are fascinating, even when not fucked up.
You'd already have anaphylaxis if you were going to get it, AFAIK.
Have you tried making a paste out of Benedryl? Or using the dissolving strips?
I have benadryl cream, and I've also made a paste of baking soda.
The itching isn't that bad- it's the swelling that is creeping me out. It's been over 24 hours and my hand and two of my fingers are still really puffed up.
It's not really painful or anything. I wish Professor Wombat were here.
Just had another earthquake here in Berkeley.
Before I die, will someone please tell me how to know when to:
Use the words WHO and WHOM;
Use the words WHICH and THAT (ie, the bridge that collapsed or the bridge
4LG, do you have an advice nurse you can call?
Wow. Haloscan cut me right off.
the bridge that collapsed or the bridge which collapsed -- which is correct?
me
"that" is most often the best choice. "which" is usually preceded by a comma, to the specific. Use "which" in a sentence when you've already used a "that".
"Who" and "whom" - if the "whom" is the object of your sentence, that's the word of choice.
The itching isn't that bad- it's the swelling that is creeping me out. It's been over 24 hours and my hand and two of my fingers are still really puffed up.
Having a testicle swell up was the creepiest.
the bridge that collapsed or the bridge which collapsed -- which is correct?
Our editors always said, "the bridge THAT collapsed." Whatever. We know what the fuck you mean.
You'd already have anaphylaxis if you were going to get it, AFAIK.
me:
the bridge THAT collapsed.
You could say, "the bridge, which collapsed yesterday, was a major arterial."
You would say, "the bridge that collapsed was a major arterial."
I don;t know if that helps or not.
the bridge that collapsed or the bridge which collapsed -- which is correct?
Well, you can lick Fowler and Fowler to death. But to tell the truth, writers from Shakespeare to Pynchon have used them the same.
Having a testicle swell up was the creepiest.
spinoza
and it did so...why?
4LG, do you have an advice nurse you can call?
No.
Anyhoo, I'm sure I'm not in any danger of dying of shock.
Having a testicle swell up was the creepiest.
spinoza
and it did so...why?
Torsion.
and it did so...why?
Epididymitis. I had enough cipro during the anthrax scare to keep me very safe.
Having a testicle swell up was the creepiest.
spinoza
I've had a pretty bad varicocele for years...haven't wanted to go for the surgery, but may have to at some point....
Anyhoo, I'm sure I'm not in any danger of dying of shock
No, you're not.
4LG...go to teh google.
Anyhoo, I'm sure I'm not in any danger of dying of shock.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? | Homepage | 08.12.07 - 3:06 am | # [kill][hide comment]
Not even from contemplating the abject stupidity of our trolls?
yes, swollen testicle would be beyond worrisome. It's that which wraps the icy fingers of fear around one's heart.
Can't handle the refresh time...gonna turn in. G'night, all. Hope your hand feels better, 4legs. You should definitely put a cold pack on it.
Thanks, all -- I'm writing a letter to an editor and trying to avoid sounding too stupid.
Those two questions have come up countless times, and tonight it dawned on me that I had a better option than doing a Google search.
Anyhoo, I'm sure I'm not in any danger of dying of shock
No, you're not.
LOL.
Mine was kind of a lame question compared to 4LG's, though. I haven't been paying attention.
'night, Phila...sweet dreams.
I've had a scrotum for 53 years. WTF do I know??
Mine was kind of a lame question compared to 4LG's, though. I haven't been paying attention.
me
darlin', no legitimate question is lame.
god-damn, it's hell when we go past our warranty date, ain;t it?
god-damn, it's hell when we go past our warranty date, ain;t it?
I think we're out of warranty on this thread, too -- it's taking about 30 seconds to refresh.
SIX VISITORS!
I've seen it get to 5. I hear tell it's gotten down to 4 or fewer. C'mon, lurkers!
It once went to 2 but the other visitor wouldn't talk even with enhanced interrogation techniques applied.
g'night!
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It once went to 2 but the other visitor wouldn't talk even with enhanced interrogation techniques applied.
Prolly Tena.
Jesus. I ate dinner, did the laundry, and watched a lousy movie, and this thread's still going?
Hey, that's what I said!!
That's WTF I'm sayin! Only I took a bath and tried to go to sleep AND watched a movie.
I've seen it get to 5. I hear tell it's gotten down to 4 or fewer. C'mon, lurkers!
If it gets to zero does that mean time's up?
If it gets to zero does that mean time's up?
Do you really trust Helloscan to determine the End Time? It would probably say:
You already destroyed the universe. Please wait -72 seconds to fuck it up again.
Do you really trust Helloscan to determine the End Time? It would probably say:
Please try again?
Again, motherfucker?
You want what now?
3 Visitors Online!
still here.......
I guess I should pack. Gotta leave for BTV in 66 minutes.
3 Visitors Online!
Admit it, you're longing for the end times. You're really a planted fundy, trying to spy on us. Aren't you?
Admit it, you're longing for the end times. You're really a planted fundy, trying to spy on us. Aren't you?
Well, since nobody else is around...yes.
Well, since nobody else is around...yes.
I knew it, God damnit!
n time
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I knew it, God damnit!
I knew all along. I was just waiting for the right time to corner the bugger and out him.
ZUT'S A TROLL!
ZUT'S A TROLL!
My Mom likes me.
ZUT'S MOM IS A TROLL!
ZUT'S MOM IS A TROLL!
My cat likes me.
Think good thoughts, will you all, for my son, who is struggling not only with his daughter's death but with his own mental illness and torment.
Thank you.
Sorry to only bring these hard times stories here.
I am hopeful of better times.
ZUT'S MOM IS A TROLL!
Whoa.
/keanau
Can I buy tickets to the prise fight?
Think good thoughts, will you all, for my son, who is struggling not only with his daughter's death but with his own mental illness and torment.
I just don't know what I'd do in the same situation. Is he getting some help?
Think good thoughts, will you all, for my son, who is struggling not only with his daughter's death but with his own mental illness and torment.
Always, Sarah.
I just don't know what I'd do in the same situation. Is he getting some help?
smalfish,suspect at all times
yes, but "insurance" only allows 30m days worth of mental health coverage in a LIFETIME. You gotta love it. You gotta laugh.
zut, thanks. Like I say, sorry to be whining alla time. It just never seems to stop.
sorry to be whining alla time.
It's not whining, Sarah. It'll take as long as it takes.
I feel for your son, too -- more than I can say.
zut, he has addiction (alcohol ands drugs that he had under control untiol my g'dtr became ill) and Borderline Personality Disorder, driven by his alcoholic dad's abandoment, in an unusual circumstance (leaving him alone in a movie theater for an hour, while he went out and got drunk). Took me great effort to get the courts to agree to terminate his "parental" rights.
The illness and death of his daughter, my g'dtr, has taken its toll.
Sarah, your son needs more help than he's going to get with 30 day's worth of insurance. I know why he drinks & uses, but it won't provide any real help -- just temporary pain relief, which I admit is a lot in his situation.
I wish I knew what to suggest, but mental health care is a minefield. I hope you have some friends in the medical field who can make some appropriate suggestions, and that your son gets the help he needs.
zut, he has addiction (alcohol ands drugs that he had under control untiol my g'dtr became ill) and Borderline Personality Disorder
That's just awful. He's probably going through my worst nightmare.
I wish I knew what to suggest,
I'd suggest an AA or NA meeting.
Sheets. I called sheets to start this thread at 4:33 PM yesterday.
thank you all.
Now, up to the sheets.
No time to listen to this, but I had no idea you were a fan of Dinah Shore, Atrios.
On the air now! http://www.blogtalkradio.com/fpc
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