I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Good morning...
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lam3rz!
Beautiful , chilly morning here in KC...I'd better mow the lawn.
Morning, Firefox is pissing me off now.
Oh well - must be the world's job to irritate me this AM.
The British Open is ways full of rightswingers.
Can our culture survive this?
Morning, all. How goes?
Being in Oslo, about to be overwhelmed by rain, is clearly doing something for the blogging frequency.
When will it dawn on the D.C. bloviators that the U.S. is turning into one pretty sad place, and that the GOP wants to keep it sad?
a state that once had the best system of public colleges and universities in the country is now becoming a new alabama for many of it's citizens and a temple of gold for the few. ahnold sounded good until leadership became necessary.
singe
Not JUST California, trust me here.
♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ Missouri Bird! ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
Crocs? Never even considered owning a pair.
It's all I ever see Scooter Guy wearing, though.
Fear and greed, SteinL, fear and greed. That's all they know.
it looks like a rainy day in the Fl. panhandle
good morning to all
Tom Watson or Tom Sawyer?
Got some seriously comfortable sandals a year and a half ago. about $130. Along with my first pair of Rockports (which lasted years and years), by far the best shoes I've ever owned.
♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ GWPDA! ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
Best shoes=Ecco.
Sawyer, any day of the week
Chuy, it's hot.
shallow musing:
let's make sure to trot out the loudmouths to repeat the same tired bullshit, let's make sure the youth have no say!
einstein delivered his most famous papers before he was 30...most innovation comes from small new startups.
Goodness, what a lovely crowd this morning. {{{{{Jeffraham GWPDA drifter MB DWD mogwai Hesiod ever-damn-body else}}}}}
GWPDA, drift East
it feels like Sept. here this morning
I'm up!
filkertom!
How're thangs for you, this morning?
I thought Calcavecchia's approach shot on the 10th was atrocious.
I need water. Then, coffee.
Then laundry.
Goin' well, Jeffraham, thanks for asking. For the first time in a couple of weeks, I feel motivated to work on music (good thing I had a very good gig in there), I'm going to my niece's 8th birthday party today, and I saw Harry Potter and the Pretty Good Film Especially Given How Bad Book Six Is yesterday. You?
Laundry for me, too.
Chuy, it's hot.
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian | 07.19.09 - 8:48 am
had the wet heat here yesterday but then the typhoon went through.
Going over to Albuquerque this week.
Good morning, folks.
I closed the bar last night.
No summer in Canada this year.
Going over to Albuquerque this week.
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian | 07.19.09 - 8:55 am
You should turn left.
I don't have tv anymore since I can't figure out how to hook up the converter box.(I'll get cable one of these days.) I haven't missed it, but I'd like to watch Tom Watson. I hope he wins--he's local, and a nice guy.
'Sup, Moe. 
Missouri Bird -- I you want to take photos of the back of the box and the back of your TV, I'll show ya what goes where.
I'm here.
Hey, Ralphie.
The New York Times
July 19, 2009
Teacher, Can We Leave Now? No.
By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN
Muskegon, MI
I confess, I find it hard to come to Michigan and not ask: Why are we here? Who cares about the these people? The auto industry is gone. And if it ever comes back, well, that’s why God created flat-earth trade policies.
But every time I start writing that column, something stills my hand. This week it was something very powerful. Indeed, Washington’s efforts remind us what the essence of the “war on working people” is about. It’s about the war of ideas – a war between religious zealots who glorify free trade and working people who need jobs in order to live.
Which is why it was no accident that Tim Geitner, the U.S. chairman of the Screw the Working People — spent half a minute thinking about it. Of course then he dismissed worrying about a useless state as idle speculation and if these people can’t adjust, who the fuck needs ‘em? After all, these people NEED another condo and there will always be a need for gardeners, chauffeurs, and house staff.
filkertom -- Better, here, too. Had three days of work this week at the scooter shop.
Hey filkertom. The lovely Mrs. Moe is being flung across the Pacific, as we speak. I should probably do the dishes or something.
Had three days of work this week at the scooter shop.
Great!
Is that a permanent gig?
The British Open. What's that? Full frontals of the worlds least exciting men?
Hey filkertom. The lovely Mrs. Moe is being flung across the Pacific, as we speak. I should probably do the dishes or something.
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 07.19.09 - 9:01 am
Coming home or going my way?
Jeffraham, Moe -- excellent!
The British Open. What's that? Full frontals of the worlds least exciting men?
Anthony McCarthy | Homepage | 07.19.09 - 9:02 am
The Dull Monty.
LOS ANGELES, Calif. --
Paula Abdul may not return to “American Idol” for a ninth season, her manager claimed in a new interview with the Los Angeles Times.
“She’s not a happy camper as a result of what’s going on. She’s hurt. She’s angry,” David Sonenberg, the “Idol” judge’s manager, told the newspaper on Friday. He went on to say, "Look, the girl is pushing 45 now: if she is ever going to be able to use her booty to make some money: It is now. Besides, her long record of hits and critical acclaim is just fucking legendary!"
Moe Szyslak: Is that a permanent gig?
No; probably not.
Ralphi -- everything go OK at the VA? Haven't had a chance to ask.
Sorry you couldn't join us. It was stupid fun.
Jeffraham--perhaps I'll give the instructions another try! Duh.
Are they suggesting that it is actually dog meat?
I confess, I find it hard to come to Michigan and not ask: Why are we here? Who cares about the these people? The auto industry is gone. And if it ever comes back, well, that’s why God created flat-earth trade policies.
I think I have never hated the Moustache more than I hate him right now. What a fucked way to think. I don't care how he redeems himself in the rest of the column, if he possibly can, which I doubt. Jayzus jumpin Christ on a pogo stick.
You should turn left.
Pretty much have to. Left to Albuquerque, right to Canada.
Coming home or going my way?
Coming home.
No; probably not.
Jeffraham,
Well, at least it's work.
DWD altered Friedman's words a tad.
Missouri Bird: Jeffraham--perhaps I'll give the instructions another try! Duh.
It should be relatively straightforward. One F-type connector for the antenna, and either an F-type for the output to the TV, or 3 RCA connectors (yellow = video; white = audio left; red = audio right).
32% humidity. Gaaah
Who cares about the Taliban? Al Qaeda is gone. And if its leaders come back, well, that’s why God created cruise missiles.
That's worse than the "suck on this" comment, imo.
32% humidity. Gaaah
GWPDA
Heh.
Who cares about the Taliban? Al Qaeda is gone. And if its leaders come back, well, that’s why God created cruise missiles.
Little Tommy Friedman, psychopath, age 4
Thread is moving a little too fast for me. Need another cup of coffee.
Things could have gone much better at the VA. I'll know more by the end of this week.
DWD altered Friedman's words a tad.
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 07.19.09 - 9:06 am
[facepalm] Just looked. Oy. [shakes fist] Y'dang rewrite men get offa my lawn!
Ralphie -- um. Shit.
Disappointing news for this dude.
The Goddess doesn't care.
um. Shit.
Exactly!!!
Disappointing news for this dude.
The Goddess doesn't care.
Shared Humanity | 07.19.09 - 9:11 am
It's gone beyond "must have shame surgically removed". The new standard for Repubs seems to be "must be walking billboard for hubris".
Much good luck, Ralphie.
filkertom,
Yeah, but I am a bitch on style this AM: fooled QL earlier too.
(Sorry, woke up sarcastic and am thinking HAPPY THOUGHTS to break it)
Atrocity number one.
Tiger Woods didn't make the cut
The new standard for Repubs seems to be "must be walking billboard for hubris".
filkertom
They don't use any of them fancy French toppings on their crackers.
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Here, DWD. This should help.
Teh morning hitz. . .
The Sotomayor show reduced the antics of Washington’s clueless ancien-régime to a spectacle as ridiculous as it was obsolescent.
Aw, damn! Frank Rich there is a nice word: obsolete - maybe you should learn it, eh?
DWD-
Quotation from Mark Sanford (R-Indiscreet)
“It’s in the spirit of making good from bad that I am committing to you and the larger family of South Carolinians to use this experience to both trust God in his larger work of changing me, and from my end, to work to becoming a better and more effective leader. And lo, a vision came unto me and I was shown the future: bright and happy under my leadership. As I was being anointed by Jesus himself, I felt the power of the Lord come into me giving me the strength to smite the womanizers, aggrandizers, liars, and hypocrites in the sinful city and lo, even unto the country itself. The Lord's righteous anger toward the sinful will be as a hammer in my hands. . . ."
DWD-
A-man doesn't track my favorite Sunday show?
Laundry for me three
It's scientific!
http://seminal.firedoglake.com/d....com/diary/
6446
When I see shit like that video, I hope the whole fucking thing comes crashing down.
Can someone come clean up my place? I've been busy "working" and there's a bit of washing and sorting to be done.
"... The Lord's righteous anger toward the sinful will be as a hammer in my hands. . . ."
DWD-
DWD-Sordid | Homepage | 07.19.09 - 9:16 am
"... 'The Hammer' is my penis."
-- Captain Hammer, Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog
Moe Szyslak,
Well, that dint help: but I know it is INTELLIGENT because *I* wrote it!
"This INVISIBLE gas is causing global warming." Yea, right.
Moe -- good lord. I can't even make it through a minute of that.
Whoops! Gotta go. Hugs all around -- catch you later.
The British Open. What's that? Full frontals of the worlds least exciting men?
Hardly.
The voice, the voice, it grates. Is this global warming I'm seeing, caused by a human?
Where I live, there's a party with 30% of the voters behind it who believe her shit.
"This INVISIBLE gas is causing global warming." Yea, right.
Moe Szyslak
I was helping Mrs DWD rewrite some lab procedures for the COLA people last week. I was utilizing my "Educspeak" and "Effete Babel Capibilities" to help.
One of the cautions was that the machine must be "clean." I added that MT should remove "visible residue." My wife laughed like hell and said, "No, the inside workings must be cleaned. You cannot tell if it is dirty by looking at it."
"Citizens for Liberty" -- there's a bold position!
The view in Milwaukee.
http://www.jsonline.com/news/wis...n/
51105717.html
filkertom, if you ever want to be utterly dispirited, just google "global warming hoax".
A-man doesn't track my favorite Sunday show?
Jeffraham, public option
The McGlaughlin Grope?
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John McLaughlin has shrubbie's splooge on his tie.
Just back from TBogg's place, with a clip from Andrew Malcom's 'comment' at the LAT. I HAVE FOUND WHERE THE TROLLS GO WHEN THEY AREN'T HERE!
"It is a great thing that these "tea Partiers" have the courage to stand up against this Socialist like reform change. Americans don't want this all pinned on one group of people such as small businesses. If universal healthcare were to pass doctors and nurses would become government jobs. Their pay would be reduced magnificently. If this kind
of thing happens then the shortage of nurses shall only get bigger, and the quality of doctoring shall go down. Obama, who I had voted for, has seem to unmask himself and show who he really is. A big question we
should ask ourselves is , "why would I want to pay the healthcare of some man or woman who doesn't want to get a job, or is illegal?" I will take a stand against Obama, as well should everyone. If illegal immigrants can be made legal so that they may contribute to our taxes and our social security that would be an accomplishment. If all Americans are made to contribute to a tax so that universal healthcare may exist, it would be fair."
As G_d is my witness, I swear I thought it was parody.
Before College, Costly Advice Just on Getting In
By JACQUES STEINBERG
The free fashion show at a Greenwich, Conn., boutique in June was billed as a crash course in dressing for a college admissions interview.
Yet the proposed “looks” — a young man in seersucker shorts, a young woman in a blue blazer over a low-cut blouse and short madras skirt — appeared better suited for a nearby yacht club. After Jennifer Delahunty, dean of admissions at Kenyon College, was shown photos of those outfits, she rendered her review.
“I burst out laughing,” she said.
Shannon Duff, the independent college counselor who organized the event, says she ordinarily charges families “in the range of” $15,000 for guidance about the application process, including matters far more weighty than just what to wear.
Ms. Duff is a practitioner in a rapidly growing, largely unregulated field seeking to serve families bewildered by the admissions gantlet at selective colleges.
No test or licensing is required to offer such services, and there is no way to evaluate the counselors’ often extravagant claims of success or experience. And Ms. Duff’s asking price, though higher than many, is eclipsed by those of competitors who may charge upwards of $40,000 — more than a year’s tuition at many colleges.
Yeah, I used to see these people all of the time hanging around my inner-city school. After all, having an agent to help you get into the right college for $15K is something that every poor person has to do . . . (And these fools at the NY Times actually assign, read, and edit this shit? Maybe I shouldn't be surprised the Rich can't even use a word like obsolete correctly.)
If universal healthcare were to pass doctors and nurses would become government jobs.
Idiots.
If universal healthcare were to pass doctors and nurses would become government jobs.
Of course, nobody's suggesting anything like that. But, it actually makes sense.
Morning, good people.
I see Atrios has already weighed in on Arnold's budget cuts by appealing to the emotions.
I took a different tack: here are what the results will be, going by the numbers.
Of course, nobody's suggesting anything like that. But, it actually makes sense.
Once upon a time, there was this thing called the Public Health Service....
Not to restate the obvious, but the more I listen to repugs the more I feel they're either profoundly ignorant or the most evil, self-righteous pricks in history.
"I worked (read inherited) for mine. Why should I have to inconvenience myself for you?"
A very significant minority of people in America have no access to healthcare, yet ask the regugs to consider a public option and its as though your asking them to replace the constitution with the communist manifesto.
Sometimes I hope they all come down with incurable diseases for which a cure would have been found, if not for the Xtian fascists who stood in the way of every scientific advance of the last thousand years.
Pay for procedure necessarily increases costs.
You can take your car into to be regularly serviced, or you can just wait until it breaks down on the side of the highway. Guess which costs more.
Before College, Costly Advice Just on Getting In
By JACQUES STEINBERG
The free fashion show at a Greenwich, Conn., boutique in June was billed as a crash course in dressing for a college admissions interview.
Yet the proposed “looks” — a young man in seersucker shorts, a young woman in a blue blazer over a low-cut blouse and short madras skirt — appeared better suited for a nearby yacht club. After Jennifer Delahunty, dean of admissions at Kenyon College, was shown photos of those outfits, she rendered her review.
“I burst out laughing,” she said.
Shannon Duff, the independent college counselor who organized the event, says she ordinarily charges families “in the range of” $15,000 for guidance about the application process, including matters far more weighty than just what to wear.
Ms. Duff is a practitioner in a rapidly growing, largely unregulated field seeking to serve families bewildered by the admissions gantlet at selective colleges.
No test or licensing is required to offer such services, and there is no way to evaluate the counselors’ often extravagant claims of success or experience. And Ms. Duff’s asking price, though higher than many, is eclipsed by those of competitors who may charge upwards of $40,000 — more than a year’s tuition at many colleges.
Yeah, I used to see these people all of the time hanging around my inner-city school. After all, having an agent to help you get into the right college for $15K is something that every poor person has to do . . . (And these fools at the NY Times actually assign, read, and edit this shit? Maybe I shouldn't be surprised the Rich can't even use a word like obsolete correctly.)
DWD-Sordid
That is disgusting.
Gregory on MTP keeps pushing CBO argument, will not or cannot understand that it is an initial assessment of one plan, not the pres's health care plan.
he's gotta go
Sanford says "God will make me better"
so it was all God's fault for his letting this fine christian man screw up in the first place. Since he was a good christian fellow before he had this affair and "crossed the line" with other women, then it has to be God's fault that he didn't stay pure. But he's going to give God a second chance to make him better.
Remember, IT'S NEVER A REPUBLICANS FAULT.
News from the Upper Peninsula.
Winners of the frog jumping contest at Michigamme’s Fourth of July contest are:
0-3 age group-Addy Lein, 4-6 age group-Gabrielle Gilbertson, 7-8 age group -Kenzie Blau, 9-10 age group-Zoe Desimone, 11-12 age group-Hannah Bershing, 13 and over age group- Cole Schultz.
Frog jumping jump off: 1st place-Hannah Bershing, 2nd place-Kenzie Blau and 3rd place- Cole Schultz.
Official frog judge was Penny Frisk.
Official frog judge was Penny Frisk. Her sisters, Penny Arcade, Penny Pincher, and Penny Ante were all busy. . . .
(And I dint know the French were still in the UP.)
yay, Virginia, how's the old Dominion? We have hell here;
http://www.kissmybigbluebutt.com/
A very significant minority of people in America have no access to healthcare, yet ask the regugs to consider a public option and its as though your asking them to replace the constitution with the communist manifesto.
Sometimes I hope they all come down with incurable diseases for which a cure would have been found, if not for the Xtian fascists who stood in the way of every scientific advance of the last thousand years.
macacawitz
macacawitz, you make a very important point, one that really gets short shrift in the debate.
What we need is universal health care ACCESS. Instead, we are being offered "insurance."
Insurance is not only not the answer, it's the freakin' problem.
the frog was fixed, for sure.
(And I dint know the French were still in the UP.)
Quite a few, actually. Most came from Canada.
What language does Barbour speak?
Lobbyist. The language COT deconstructs so brilliantly every week.
Hey, a fawn just leapt acros my path while I was on my morning jog. Startled both of us...
Mitchell on MTP says his Canadian friend died because their inferior health care wouldn't treat him. Wonder how many lies there are in that pos.
Insurance is not only not the answer, it's the freakin' problem.
I dunno. Canada's universal health insurance system works.
Quite a few, actually. Most came from Canada.
Ralphie
Ummm. I think that was sarcasm and a play on words. (Checking . . . yep.)
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 07.19.09 - 9:34 am | #
I'd like some reading advice:
Any books/reports on climate change that are out this summer that you recommend?
Any reading you'd recommend for someone just getting started on understanding climate change? I have a friend who's aware it's a problem, but really hasn't read anything on it except for stray articles in the NYT.
Damn -- Mr. out of the shower, so I've gotta move.
See you all in the a.m., from home sweet home.
Have a good Sunday!
Any reading you'd recommend for someone just getting started on understanding climate change? I have a friend who's aware it's a problem, but really hasn't read anything on it except for stray articles in the NYT.
Buckeye ..
The Intelligent Republican - written and illustrated by A.Wanker - Regency Press, 2009
safe travels, VA
Healthcare is non-negotiable we all need it and it's my feeling that the government has a responsibility to help us out in this regard.
With respect to higher education, I've got a different take.
Like many of us, I had to work my way through college. I drove a cab for 6 years while I worked my way to a B.A.
I think our kids are a little soft.
If you want the education bad enough, you'll work for it.
If you need to borrow money to do it, borrow it.
We're outraged at having to spend $250K on education, but think nothing of spending more on the house we really don't need with the pool and the marble kitchens and baths.
Take a risk, put a little skin in the game. If you're passionate about your career goals, luck may be on your side.
A? Don't bother coming home soon.
"Philadelphia's city government has stopped paying its vendors and suppliers, citing a cash crisis.
Mayor Michael Nutter on Friday blamed the drastic move on the failure of the Pennsylvania legislature to act on his request for authorization
to raise the city sales tax and change the formula for the city's contribution to its employee pension plan. Nutter says these items are necessary to help close a projected city budget deficit of $1.4 billion over the next five years.
The sixth-largest U.S. city by population will delay spending on anything other than payroll, debt service and emergencies, until passage in Harrisburg of a state budget and laws related to the sales-tax and pension proposals. Philadelphia's sales tax would increase by one percentage point to 8% for five years under the proposal.
"These steps come amid a growing cash crisis which must be addressed immediately," Nutter said at a press
conference. He has attributed the city budget shortfall to broader economic weakness, which has eroded tax revenue, coupled with rising
city pension obligations."
Moe, a serious question:
Is the Canadian universal health insurance system based on for-profit insurance companies?
What we need is universal health care ACCESS. Instead, we are being offered "insurance."
I was born in Manhattan and live in Ontario. I have one of those cards in my pocket. It's a truly empowering feeling.
Is the Canadian universal health insurance system based on for-profit insurance companies?
No.
The US condemns the Taliban video of the captured US soldier as being in violation of Internation law.
Now that's a scream!!!!
I wonder if the Taliban has shoved anything up his butt in violation of International law. Have they covered him with shit? Made him parade around naked? Thrown water on him in a freezing room? Hung him from the ceiling by his arms until he couldn't breathe?
International Law isn't what it used to be.
Thank you GEORGE W BUSH AND DICK CHENEY!!!
And, if anyone cares, Provincial wait times for all medical services are listed on the various Provincial health agency websites, and updated quarterly.
There is absolutely no comparison between the Canadian and American systems. For the vast majority of people, the Canadian system is vastly superior.
Period.
macacawitz,
I think that USED to be true: not so much anymore.
University cost (at least here) has been going up at between five and ten percent a year for the last decade or so.
State schools (MSU, GVSU, CMU et al) are around 17K a year. (U of M - is actually quite a bit more)
Private colleges here are between 20-40 K a year.
It is just really hard to find a job period: and then one that will pay enough to even approach paying 20K a year for an education is difficult.
(And schools, like my sons, are increasingly going to semester fee rather than paying for the courses by the hour.)
Any books/reports on climate change that are out this summer that you recommend?
Any reading you'd recommend for someone just getting started on understanding climate change? I have a friend who's aware it's a problem, but really hasn't read anything on it except for stray articles in the NYT.
Buckeye ...
The science is moving fast, so I wouldn't bother with books at this point, except to consider the political side of the equation.
There's an excellent resource for beginners at real climate, here:
http://www.realclimate.org/index.../05/start-here/
which has a range of introductory pieces, depending on how much science you want to swallow.
I regularly stop by a few blogs that give a good overview of what's happening.
Real Climate
Climate Progress
and DeSmog Blog
are on my daily list. That's a good start.
Moe might be interested:
http://
www.rhinelanderdailynews....39572544647.txt
The higher education system is a scam in the U.S. There is absolutely no reason for the 5-10% yearly increases. Unless your family is very wealthy you are mortgaging your future. When I graduated 20 years ago it was only a 10K hit - saddling kids w/ 50K in debt for a B.A. is crippling IMHO.
I also received tens of thousands of dollars in private scholarships and grants - not every student is going to get those.
My province contracts with a non-profit Blue Cross to provide insurance.
My entire relationship with Blue Cross consists of a ten-minute stop by their office to fill out an application, and I only needed to do that because I hadn't yet had my permanent residency-- just applying for permanent residency was enough to give me coverage.
I've never had any exchange with them since. When I got my doctor, I handed them my health card at my first visit, and they've taken care of all the paperwork ever since. When I went to the ER when I broke my wrist, same thing.
I've never gotten a bill. Never get sent any paperwork.
Hell - Ken Stampp's died. The Peculiar Institution: Slavery in the Ante-Bellum South.
Wow. What with the wingers do now that not even Craphammer could find an unkind word for Walter Cronkite?
"go to hell, Tom Watson"-Lindsey Graham
The Peculiar Institution: Slavery in the Ante-Bellum South.
I've read it! Long time ago.
Jill,
Yes.
(From earlier)
The New York Times
July 19, 2009
Teacher, Can We Leave Now? No.
By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN
Muskegon, MI
I confess, I find it hard to come to Michigan and not ask: Why are we here? Who cares about the these people? The auto industry is gone. And if it ever comes back, well, that’s why God created flat-earth trade policies.
But every time I start writing that column, something stills my hand. This week it was something very powerful. Indeed, Washington’s efforts remind us what the essence of the “war on working people” is about. It’s about the war of ideas – a war between religious zealots who glorify free trade and working people who need jobs in order to live.
Which is why it was no accident that Tim Geitner, the U.S. chairman of the Screw the Working People — spent half a minute thinking about it. Of course then he dismissed worrying about a useless state as idle speculation and if these people can’t adjust, who the fuck needs ‘em? After all, these people NEED another condo and there will always be a need for gardeners, chauffeurs, and house staff.
I've never gotten a bill. Never get sent any paperwork.
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 07.19.09 - 10:01 am | #
Mr. Jill and I are relatively healthy - but I can count on 8-10 complicated phone calls a year w/our insurance company. Still working on payment for a mammogram done 17 months ago.
Insurance is not only not the answer, it's the freakin' problem.
The fact that it is the problem is why you need to address it.
No one would argue that we have the finest health care infrastructure, technology and professionals. And yet we have shitty health care and too many poor outcomes precisely because we have a health care insurance problem.
Good morning, all.
State schools (MSU, GVSU, CMU et al) are around 17K a year. (U of M - is actually quite a bit more.
I completely understand.
That's another area where the Canadian system works better.
The problem is that we seem extremely ambilvilent to ask our kids to contribute to their education. I think it's fare to propose to pay half of the $17K if he / she covers the balance either through waiting tables, loans, whatever.
In my final year of college, I work (3) 12 hour shifts Friday, Saturday and Sunday, while carry 18 credits per semester.
While you're waiting at the airport for fares, you can get a lot of reading done.
It's all about creativity and commitment.
John Glenn?
I've never gotten a bill. Never get sent any paperwork.
We get bills that aren't bills. It's weird.
"Any reading you'd recommend for someone just getting started on understanding climate change? I have a friend who's aware it's a problem, but really hasn't read anything on it except for stray articles in the NYT."
http://unfccc.int/essential_back.../items/
2918.php
We get bills that aren't bills. It's weird.
Be careful. Sometimes a bill will appear that looks just like the non-bill and you won't realise it.
Moe might be interested:
http:// www.rhinelanderdailynews....39572544647.txt
Ralphie
Thanks, Ralphie. It's interesting. This part is wrong, tho:
The earth’s atmosphere contains around 370 parts per million of carbon dioxide
We're way above that. We're at about 390 right now, and it's rising 2 or 3 ppm per year.
Matthews: OMG Reforming health care is really expensive suddenly since 1979 I'm worried about the debt again!!!
Brooks: OMG they are going to raise taxes on little businesses higher than in hellish places like Spain and France!
Matthews: will they ram it through undemocratically or get David Broder's approval??
O'Donnell: they will ram it through the bastards
Parker: they hate Democracy just because they have the votes
Matthews: omg!!
John Glenn?
America's first astronaut? [sic]
Universal health care would also bring costs of higher education down. Paying for fringe benefits of personnel (by far the largest of which is health insurance) adds anywhere between 10% and 40% above their salaries/wages, depending on the class of employee.
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Pat Buchanan on McLaughlin Group:
How can Sotomayor compare to John Roberts?
Why is this guy on the teevee 24/7?
Sometimes a bill will appear that looks just like the non-bill and you won't realise it.
I ignored those, too.
The First American to Orbit Earth; Alan Shepard was the First American astronaut on a sub-orbital Mercury flight
The problem is that we seem extremely ambilvilent to ask our kids to contribute to their education. I think it's fare to propose to pay half of the $17K if he / she covers the balance either through waiting tables, loans, whatever.
I think attitudes towards college might just might be the demarcation line between middle class and working class in this country. The middle class just assumes their kids will go to college, and parents "own" the responsibility for paying for it, even if the kids contribute or try to pay part of it back.
Working class kids, it's up to them to figure out how to get to college.
"We're way above that. We're at about 390 right now, and it's rising 2 or 3 ppm per year."
Here's the data going back to 1980...
ftp://ftp.cmdl.noaa.gov/ccg/co2..._annmean_gl.txt
How can Sotomayor compare to John Roberts?
Well, to be fair, she isn't white or male or fucking creepy.
Brooks: unlike me Obama is totally out of touch with America
Page: you're an idiot
Matthews: but all the rich people will pay for the poor people
Brooks: i don't understand why Obama is lettting Congress write a bill in Congress
Matthews: so sad
Brooks: we have to ration health care but greedy unions gets free x-rays and they don't want give it up even if destroys America
O'Donnell: Republicans say if we rush this there will be unintended consequences like they will lose votes
Brooks: 7 Senators will destroy this bill which is the essence of democracy
Paying for fringe benefits of personnel (by far the largest of which is health insurance) adds anywhere between 10% and 40% above their salaries/wages, depending on the class of employee.
I have no class. My insurance is cheap.
How can Sotomayor compare to John Roberts?
As an adolescent, Sotomayor did not have a picture on Torquemada affixed to the ceiling above her bed.
And, while we're at 390 ppm right now, and moving upward rather frighteningly quickly (concentrations have increased even quicker since the global economic collapse, which no one expected), it's agreed that if we're going to avoid cataclysmic climate change, we'll have to bring it down to 350 ppm.
Sotomayor also doesn't have Hummell Doll Android kids like Roberts, either.
The First American to Orbit Earth; Alan Shepard was the First American astronaut on a sub-orbital Mercury flight
That's what 'sic' means.
It was a common mistake, even during Mercury...
O'Donnell: taxes are bad
Matthews: why is Obama raising taxes on the middle class to 57%???
Page: you are an idiot also
Matthews: so does Obama get a major health plan by the war on christmas?
Panel: yes which is so very sad
Page: yes but Rush Limbaugh is still fat
Brooks: but a handsome man
The science is moving fast, so I wouldn't bother with books at this point, except to consider the political side of the equation...
I regularly stop by a few blogs that give a good overview of what's happening.
Real Climate
Climate Progress
and DeSmog Blog
are on my daily list. That's a good start.
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 07.19.09 - 9:57 am | #
Thanks.
The DeSmog blog is a new one, it's bookmarked.
This was the lead post:
Bob Stallman, head of the American Farm Bureau Federation, has declared that the earth is cooling in testimony Tuesday before the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee. So it must be true.
How can people be so stupid?
Luby was here late last night blasting taxing rich people -- I have the hardest time imagining Luby's rich.
Sotomayor also doesn't have a name that sounds like a euphemism from Lady Chatterley's Lover.
Brooks: 7 Senators will destroy this bill which is the essence of democracy
They'll put their hands on democracy's inner thigh!
Fatuous evil bastard John Podhoretz remembers Walter Cronkite.
To paraphrase Mary McCarthy, 95 percent of the claims in this piece are either a lie or bullshit, including the punctuation.
http://www.commentarymagazine.co...podhoretz/
73642
Stupid shithead still thinks we could have won in the Noble Cause that was the war in Vietnam.
Matthews: ha ha let me show another saturday night live skit ha ha
Brooks: ha
O'Donnell: ha
Parker: hee
Page: welcome to idiot america
Until 14, though, Shepard only just barely qualified as going into space. Same with Gus until Gemini 2. Pop gun shots.
Buckeye, I know the guy who started DeSmog Blog. It's a Canuck outfit.
fred-- those numbers are just slightly below the numbers I remember. Same trend, tho: alarming.
Oh, I thought "sic" was something you had a dog do, or used to signify a quoted misspelled text.
I have the hardest time imagining Luby's rich.
Luby became quite wealthy moonlighting as a lawn jockey at the local repug country club.
"How can people be so stupid?"
He's paid to say stupid things.
I have the hardest time imagining Luby's rich.
He's not but his three biggest clients are. If they stop coming, what will he do with the cases of K9?
Oh hell.....just embarrassed myself with that last post.
A group of hunters aboard a small boat out of the tiny Alaska village of Wainwright were the first to spot what would eventually be called "the blob." It was a dark, floating mass stretching for miles through the Chukchi Sea, a frigid and relatively shallow expanse of Arctic Ocean water between Alaska's northwest coast and the Russian Far East. The goo was fibrous, hairy. When it touched floating ice, it looked almost black.
But what was it? An oil slick? Some sort of immense, amorphous organism adrift in some of the planet's most remote waters? Maybe a worrisome sign of global climate change? Or was it something insidious and, perhaps, even carnivorous like the man-eating jello from the old Steve McQueen movie that inspired the Alaskan phenomenon's nickname? (Read Richard Corliss' review of The Thing, a sci-fi film set in the Arctic.)
The hunters got word to the U.S. Coast Guard, which immediately sent two spill response experts to fly over the mass, which looked sort of rusty from the air. They also approached it by boat. The North Slope Borough, the local government for the vast and sparsely populated cap of Alaska, sent its own people out the main village of Barrow to have a look. They scooped up jars of the stuff for analysis in a state lab in Anchorage.
"We responded as if it were an oil product," says Coast Guard Petty Officer Terry Hasenauer. "It was described to us as an oil-like substance, thick and lingering below the surface of the water. Those characteristics can indicate heavy, degraded oil, maybe crude oil, or possibly an intermediate fuel oil." Meanwhile, the story spread over the internet like an oil-spill, giving lots of people a queasy feeling. (Check out a story about the coming battle for the resources of the Arctic.)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/200.../
08599191151700
Why is this guy on the teevee 24/7?
Karatist Preacher | 07.19.09 - 10:11 am | #
Apparently GE/NBC has an affirmative action program for Holocaust deniers.
I think attitudes towards college might just might be the demarcation line between middle class and working class in this country. The middle class just assumes their kids will go to college, and parents "own" the responsibility for paying for it, even if the kids contribute or try to pay part of it back.
Working class kids, it's up to them to figure out how to get to college.
Karin Hussein
It's funny. We hear a whole lot about how they have free health care in Europe and very little about how they have free college too. I imagine on the scale of Repuke Nightmares, the free college thing would be even worse than free health care, because that would actually begin to upset the tidy little class system they've created here. Therefore it's a forbidden subject on teebee.
Why would Dan Quayle think anyone would give a crap what he thinks? He left office as a national joke.
ah, I see the where the difference is-- there's seasonal fluctuations in CO2. Averaging them out arrives at the lower number. Only a couple of ppm, tho.
Anyone seen my sense of humor today? (I seem to have lost it and replaced with a white-hot anger fueled by the constant lies raising my level of indignation to "High.")
Luby is the George Jefferson of the KKK. His dry cleaning business specializes in hand laundered white hoods.
It's an algae bloom, it's in the news today.
Oh, I thought "sic" was something you had a dog do, or used to signify a quoted misspelled text.
Heh.
"indicate that an incorrect or unusual spelling, phrase, punctuation, and/or other preceding quoted material has been reproduced verbatim from the quoted original and is not a transcription error"
Close enough for government work.
Hi Ralphie
Hope all is well!
I did not see your sense of humor earlier today, DWD.
"sic" is the Latin word for "thus", as in "sic transit gloria mundi"
= "thus passes glory from the world"
I did not see your sense of humor earlier today, DWD.
plantsman, mad google skillz
No? Me either. (Think a nap time is in order to get me feeling less cranky)
ack. good morning. anyone got an asprin?
But who's Gloria Mundi?
Matthews: ha ha what if Obama and Clinton didn't get along hee hee!?!
Clinton: we are kicking ass and taking names
Matthews: who the winner in this deal?
Brooks: clearly Obama
Matthews: no no you have to say Hillary
Brooks: they're fine
Matthews: no they're bickering hee hee
Parker: Obama just loves everyone and Hillary smacks the baddies around
O'Donnell: she's his hammer and everything looks like something you want to nail
Brooks: she's has better political instincs like on Iran
I seem to have lost my sense of propriety.
Matthews: isnt' her role make a deal with many Israel friends
Page: they are both smarter than anyone on this panel
Matthews: [looks down] my shoes are on the wrong feet
And, while we're at 390 ppm right now, and moving upward rather frighteningly quickly (concentrations have increased even quicker since the global economic collapse, which no one expected), it's agreed that if we're going to avoid cataclysmic climate change, we'll have to bring it down to 350 ppm.
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 07.19.09 - 10:13 am | #
Weird, you'd think with less stuff getting produced/shipped/bought etc. that it would at least stabilize.
I just read Friedman's column and then spent a few minutes hitting my head on watertiger's desk.
What a freaking idiot that man is!!!
I've got coffee, which is supposed to be good for a headache.
I seem to have lost my sense of propriety.
Shared Humanity
That's why you should never have brought it here with you in the first place.
What a freaking idiot that man is!!!
pie
Yes, but he is rich therefore he must be smart. And if he is smart, then his words are smart too.
It should not be forgotten that China has a new coal-fired power station coming online for the first time each week.
He's a starry-eyes asshole.
I just read Friedman's column and then spent a few minutes hitting my head on watertiger's desk.
What a freaking idiot that man is!!!
pie
Staring at an empty 20 column inches with an empty haid must indeed be a terrible thing. Look what he chooses to fill it with.
COFFEE. YAY.
"sic" is the Latin word for "thus"
Yes. It's supposed to indicate that the writer knows something ain't right, but that's the way the person quoted said it even if it's stupid. Thus they said...
..I was hung over a few weeks ago the morning after a raging party and my buddy with the broken leg gave me one of his Dilaudid pills. Man, did that fix me right up.
Weird, you'd think with less stuff getting produced/shipped/bought etc. that it would at least stabilize.
Buckeye ..
we're a long, long way from stabilizing. Like, best case scenario, a century.
Even if we shut down every GHG emitting vehicle and factory and cow today, C02 levels would continue to increase for a few decades.
thank you, Karin. don't drink and drink, that's all i'm sayin. if you feel the need, put the bottle down and just drive.
"Yes, but he is rich"
Not anymore.
http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.co...for-bankruptcy/
one of his Dilaudid pills. Man, did that fix me right up.
slartibartfast
Take it from me, that shit fixes everything. Until having everything fixed becomes a real problem on its own.
I have naproxen sodium, and coffee.
Even if we shut down every GHG emitting vehicle and factory and cow today, C02 levels would continue to increase for a few decades.
Moe Szyslak
How is that? I can see how temperatures would continue to rise, but if you halt all antropogenic CO2 emissions, I don't see how CO2 can continue to go up too.
Matthews: omg the President is black!
Page: Obama went to the NAACP but he wasn't going to go Yankee stadium - that's too black
Parker: good news borrowers are gearing up to create another bubble!!
Brooks: there taxes with no benefits in 2012 and looks bad
Matthews: sarah palin hee hee
I'm sure even Friedman, or at least his wife, had the sense to shuffle a significant portion of the billions away from GGP. He's still mega rich.
It should not be forgotten that China has a new coal-fired power station coming online for the first time each week.
plantsman, mad google skillz
This'll make you feel a lot better. They're also building nukes like crazy.
:-(
It should not be forgotten that China has a new coal-fired power station coming online for the first time each week.
This is an impressive statistic.
Little know fact though is that they are all run by Buddhist monks and their emissions have only good kharma.
Until having everything fixed becomes a real problem on its own.
Adam Hominem
zactly why i don't take those kinds of things. asprin has to be good enuff. i really don't want to ever be a pill popper. i think that's harder to kick than booze. at least, some of them.
Nuke Cooling Towers generate Thermal Pollution as well as ionizing radiation.
I'm sure even Friedman, or at least his wife, had the sense to shuffle a significant portion of the billions away from GGP.
Moe Szyslak
You are? Why would you assume that?
(With any luck, if you're right, it went to Madoff!)
Geez, Corzine has been blanketing the airwaves here with anti-Christie ads.
But who's Gloria Mundi?
In transit.
How is that? I can see how temperatures would continue to rise, but if you halt all antropogenic CO2 emissions, I don't see how CO2 can continue to go up too.
You're right, I misspoke. I'm also rather hung over.
Christie has a porcine look.
Nuke Cooling Towers generate Thermal Pollution as well as ionizing radiation.
plantsman, mad google skillz
But thank God we've at least solved the nuclear waste problem!
/snark
Weird, you'd think with less stuff getting produced/shipped/bought etc. that it would at least stabilize.
Buckeye ..
we're a long, long way from stabilizing. Like, best case scenario, a century.
Even if we shut down every GHG emitting vehicle and factory and cow today, C02 levels would continue to increase for a few decades.
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 07.19.09 - 10:27 am | #
And we don't have a century.
That's what I was trying to tell my friend, that in what I've been reading, the window of opportunity is closing, and closing fast.
YAY.
I just may treat myself to a bloody mary. With dilly beans, pickle, olives, and a shrimp or two.
chidi - just make sure it's not Tylenol. I find coffee and toast w/lots of butter usually works provided just wine and no liquor was the poison.
China has also invested heavily in its wind industry. In a decade or so, they'll be the world's largest wind generator.
You're right, I misspoke. I'm also rather hung over.
I've figured out the best drinking words for Obama speeches. It's "make no mistake" and "let me be clear"
Just talked with Dad about the Basha's at Bethany East, and how we must have been going to the Baskin-Robbin's that Sunday for a cone before The Beatles were first on US TV.
That's what I was trying to tell my friend, that in what I've been reading, the window of opportunity is closing, and closing fast.
Buckeye ...
A friend of mine from high school is a world famous expert on this shit. My impression of his thinking is that the window closed sometime during the first term of Bush the Lesser. He's quite gloomy.
Jill, i'm enough of an alchy that i don't ever take tylenol. but thanks.
krist. i may have to break down and go to the fried fat and salt supplier. anything to take the edge off this mutha.
I'm thinking some greasy diner food would hit the spot right about now. But the perfect place is downtown, which is awash with tourists at the moment.
OK, so I didn't open the email that promised I could increase my love admissibility metaplasm, and I didn't read MoDo's comumn, either. Sunday's off to a flying start, it is...
Just talked with Dad about the Basha's at Bethany East, and how we must have been going to the Baskin-Robbin's that Sunday for a cone before The Beatles were first on US TV.
plantsman, mad google skillz
I'm really glad to hear you apparently have a good relationship with your father. That's awesome.
That's what I was trying to tell my friend, that in what I've been reading, the window of opportunity is closing, and closing fast.
Close a winow here and a door opens somewhere else.
I'm looking to buy beachfront property on Banks Island.
I've only ever taken Acetaminophen a few times, and avoid it as much as possible -- I have more fun ways to destroy my liver.
Unless you were heading to the B-R at the corner of Camelback & Central.
In a decade or so, they'll be the world's largest wind generator.
Moe Szyslak
Replacing Pat Buchanan? Quite an accomplishment.
A friend of mine from high school is a world famous expert on this shit. My impression of his thinking is that the window closed sometime during the first term of Bush the Lesser. He's quite gloomy.
Adam Hominem
Maybe.
A few years ago there was a thread on Real Climate about this-- someone estimated that there was a 20 percent chance we have already passed the tipping point. A commenter pointed out that you'd have better odds playing Russian roulette with a six-shooter.
I still have to get laundry started. Just can't get enough coffee in me... and I didn't have a drop to drink, last night!
Until having everything fixed becomes a real problem on its own.
Adam Hominem, thread killa
He gave me a whole handful of his pills like a week after that. He had such a ridiculous number of them. 100 Percocet with a refill for 100 more, 40 Dilaudid, and 60 Vicodin. He apologized to me for not handing over more than he did, and I told him that's OK, if you gave me any more of them you would NOT be doing me a favor. I had fun for a few days, until the tolerance started to build up. Then I took a wee bit too much one Saturday morning chasing after that perfect feeling of euphoria from the first day and ended up being more or less on the nod for like 4 hours in the middle of the day, which did not make my wife happy at all. That brought me back to my senses and I stopped taking them. They continued to talk to me from the medicine cabinet for like a week after that, but I resisted. Insidious stuff, those poppy alkaloids. I can only imagine what he's going through after taking all those many pills he had.
Moe, you're not a climate conference in NM at the moment, are you?
Latest is we need to get BACK to 350ppm (reliable models say we're already at 420) which makes the administration's proposal to cutback to 80% of current emissions by 2050 laughable.
We're looking at reducing carbon output to zero if we don't do something a bit less drastic now.
On that note, good morning?
It's great that we both remember the good times after all the acrimony and after both having had strokes -- but that Sunday was important for a variety of reasons for all my family.
I do not take pain meds. I have chronic back pain that sometimes is excruciating. When it gets really bad, I will sometimes take a couple of ibuprofen.
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Gregory: let's talk health care
Sibelius: ok doofus
Gregory: the CBO says you bankrupt America and take away tounge depressors
Sibelius: we're going to cut costs like no more MRIs unless you're missing an major organ
Gregory: but but but you have to cut costs like how about not covering everyone
Sibelius: we plan to Greggers
Gregory: goddammit you said you are going to spend a trillion dollars but people will still get health care!
Sibelius: suddenly Republicans like you are worried about spending funny how that works
Well... rototiller.
No, we'd just toured the House at 16th and Northern that day for the first time as a family, and we drove down 16th going to our rental house in the Creighton District and stopped at 16th and Bethany Home.
A friend of mine from high school is a world famous expert on this shit. My impression of his thinking is that the window closed sometime during the first term of Bush the Lesser. He's quite gloomy.
Adam Hominem
Maybe.
A few years ago there was a thread on Real Climate about this-- someone estimated that there was a 20 percent chance we have already passed the tipping point. A commenter pointed out that you'd have better odds playing Russian roulette with a six-shooter.
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 07.19.09 - 10:38 am | #
So it seems we won't know we've passed the tipping point until we've passed the tipping point?
I got into a conversation yesterday with a lady at the nursing home who was visiting her 99 yo cousin, and it turns out she is involved with the Corzine campaign, and attended the Obama speech in NJ this week.
Latest is we need to get BACK to 350ppm (reliable models say we're already at 420) which makes the administration's proposal to cutback to 80% of current emissions by 2050 laughable.
I'm pretty sure you're confusing CO2 levels with GHG CO2 equivalent levels-- we're at about 390 for CO2, but if you add in the CO2 equivalent for other greenhouse gases, it's considerably higher. Of course, those gases are real, and need to be considered. Especially methane, in an Arctic melt situation....
We're looking at reducing carbon output to zero if we don't do something a bit less drastic now.
Yea, that's what a lot of people are saying-- 100 percent reduction by 2050. But 80 or 100 percent, we still have to do the same things now.
Gregory: so this bill is unfinished
Sibelius: more or less
Gregory: so the final word it's got to lower costs
Sibelius: yes but-
Gregory: lower costs!
Sibelius: but-
Gregory: costs!
Sibelius: and quality
Gregory: um what
later, 'bats,
Gonna sleep a bit and see if my SOH can be found in dreamland.
But, Jill, of all of the crises facing this country right now, the limiting of access to higher education and the continued dominance of certain schools (who really are nothing more than legacy institutions) is extremely troubling to me for it even precludes the possibility of someone who is NOT well-bred and rich from succeeding.
The bifurcation of our society into the nobles and the serfs is nearly complete.
Peace
So it seems we won't know we've passed the tipping point until we've passed the tipping point?
Buckeye ...
I wonder if the dinosaurs knew that meteor was going to be a problem.
It's the acetaminophen in Percocet and Vicodin that does the real damage; junkies who don't take Tylenol can live a long time.
Well... rototiller.
oh goddess no, not this morning. i'm sorry if you have to.
So it seems we won't know we've passed the tipping point until we've passed the tipping point?
Buckeye ...
The science is very good, but not exact. It's a very complex system.
Gregory: so you will cover everyone?
Sibelius: yes we hope so
Gregory: well who you would leave out?
Sibelius: if necessary the Irish
Gregory: isn't proof that Obama is a failure that Mitt Romney's plan in Massachusetts sucks?
Sibelius: no because he's a moron
It's great that we both remember the good times after all the acrimony and after both having had strokes -- but that Sunday was important for a variety of reasons for all my family.
That's wonderful.
The funny thing, plantsman, is that very, very little on that corner has changed. The Basha's is still there - not in business, but there. And more restaurants have been added. I counted about ten or twelve just packed into all four corners. Pretty much the same.
chicago dyke: oh goddess no, not this morning. i'm sorry if you have to.
Honey, I live in a condo.
I just like the word.
I can't wait till CoT translates Mitch McConnell.
It's the acetaminophen in Percocet and Vicodin that does the real damage; junkies who don't take Tylenol can live a long time.
plantsman, mad google skillz
Yep.
The FDA is talking about reducing the amount of acetaminophen in Vicodin, T3, and others.
It's already killed more people than heroin ever will.
the tipping point is that 9th glass of wine. just in case you were wondering. i think there's still time to save the environment, let's all just say no when the bartender hands us one and we'll be fine.
Gregory: so how will you save money
Sibelius: the public option will bring competition and drive costs down
Gregory: but that's cheating by using efficiency to save money
Sibelius: well why not
Gregory: that will kill poor little insurance companies
Sibelius: well fuck em
Amen DWD - have a great day.
The science is very good, but not exact. It's a very complex system.
WE CAN'T PREDICT THINGS THEREFORE IT'S ALL A LIBERAL HOAX!
[guns SUV engine]
So it seems we won't know we've passed the tipping point until we've passed the tipping point?
Buckeye ...
I wonder if the dinosaurs knew that meteor was going to be a problem.
Adam Hominem, thread killa | 07.19.09 - 10:43 am | #
"Ooooh, what's the pretty bright shiny round thing? Oh, shit"
9th GLASS OF WINE?
It's already killed more people than heroin ever will.
Adam Hominem, thread killa | 07.19.09 - 10:45 am | #
corn syrup and nicotine have killed more people than heroin has.
How's E feeling, NTodd?
Sibelius: well fuck em
Culture of TrÜth
Amen. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamen. AMEN!
Amen.
feel my pain, Adam. it wasn't the last, either. ack.
It's the acetaminophen in Percocet and Vicodin that does the real damage; junkies who don't take Tylenol can live a long time.
plantsman, mad google skillz
Yes, but of course it's the oxycodone that makes you want to take of those 15 pills a day, because it feels like you're wrapped in a perfect downy blanket of your mama's love the first time you take them, and from that first dose you have to take ever more to get back to that feeling again. It is a really bad idea to combine the 2 drugs. If they want to create a deterrent to excessive doses, they should just put more of the nausea-inducing opiates in the mix, and then it would become a self-limiting problem. Liver failure that is painless until irreversible damage has been done is a pretty stupid deterrent for abuse.
Gregory: Obama keeps promising that you will get to keep your insuance but that's false because in a free market your employer can take it away!
Sibelius: so that's the free market
Gregory: but he hasn't taken over the free market system
Sibelius: that's right
Gregory: which will destroy the free market
Sibelius: I heard you a fucking moron
Gregory: will Obama take away my health care that's so scary
Sibelius: there's rationing now dipshit
Oxidane has killed more than heroin.
After the ninth glass, nothing much matters. My wife found out something similar about shots of tequila.
So, the heat wave I was hoping was going away, isn't -- in fact, next weekend is forecast to really suck.
the tipping point is that 9th glass of wine
Lightweight!
feel my pain, Adam. it wasn't the last, either. ack.
chicago dyke, hurtin
Darlin' if I was there you can be sure I'd stay all day with a cool rag for your forehead, and nurse you back to life.
Pardon the hit and run, but I was watching Tweety's show here in Bethesda, and was struck by the unanimity of the "Matthews Meter" (the twelve people he regularly has on the show, or so it seems to me.) Most of these folks are very conservative (e.g. Brooks, K. Parker, A. Sullivan and so on.)
All twelve believe that Obama is going to sign a health plan reform bill by December. All twelve.
This cheers me up considerably.
Brooksie and Parker were of course making dire remarks about taxes. Clarence Page pointed out that a lot of teh Blue Dogs are from places where there are a lot of unemployed people losing their health coverage. What was unstated but obvious was that Les Chiens Bleus are going to be very sorry if they vote against health care and their district has a lot of suddenly unensured people.
A dose of reality...
"It would establish itself not as a quirky outpost, but as the “microcosm of America” that Ms. Palin insisted it was during her run for vice president.
Trouble is, regardless of the message, the math has not changed.
“The picture remains the same as it has been for decades — overdependence on oil,” Pat Galvin, Ms. Palin’s commissioner of revenue, told a business group in Anchorage the week after the governor announced her resignation, effective July 26.
Oil production revenue and taxes account for 88 percent of current state general fund revenue. For years, the price of oil has been relatively stable; since last summer, however, it has been all over the place, forcing the state to draw more than $2 billion out of savings to balance its budget. Even as prices are now rising, production in Alaska is in permanent decline."
Good morning.
Hope everyone's well.
Shit, try 80 bucks worth of booze, whatever that was. I remember several shots of Jaimeson, after a dozen or so beers.
Later.
Yeah, when my ACL was rebuilt, I got 15 Vicodin, and how fast my tolerance rose scared the hell out of me.
Liver failure that is painless until irreversible damage has been done is a pretty stupid deterrent for abuse.
slartibartfast
I've often thought that was the reason for combining the two drugs, but I never had any evidence.
But I try not to mistake malevolence for the much more common incompetence.
Oil production revenue and taxes account for 88 percent of current state general fund revenue.
fred
Holy shit!
Gregory: some freshman democrat somewhere is concerned about taxes
Sibelius: oh boo fucking hoo
Gregory: well where does he stand
Sibelius: if you recall Bush signed a drug bill without paying for it
Gregory: yes but he was such a cool guy he gave me a nickame
Sibelius: fluffyhaid
Gregory: why not tax poor peole more
Sibelius: that would kill the little free market
Gregory: why do hate rich people?
Sibelius: they're all jerks like you David
Thanks for the correction, Moe, but as I understand it, 80% by 2050 (the date as important as the reduction), we'll be whistling past the graveyard.
And now, back to slurp coffee on the pier and watch the parent loons teach the chicks to get their own damn fish.
I wonder if the dinosaurs knew that meteor was going to be a problem.
Saw a PBS Nova recently that claimed it was insects that did them in...sand flies, mostly. Apparently dinosaurs shat a *lot* and the shit was everywhere in great piles, which attracted the flies and created diseases.
We humans had better watch our shit.
that Les Chiens Bleus are going to be very sorry if they vote against health care and their district has a lot of suddenly unensured people.
David Derbes, optimistic
Mean rate of uninsured right now, everywhere, is about 15%.
The science is very good, but not exact. It's a very complex system.
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 07.19.09 - 10:44 am | #
They have, in fact, no fucking idea. All they can say is that although they do not have much clue about how the motor works, shoving metal fragments into the gear box seems like a bad idea.
I have a feeling GE's little spokesmodels like Dancin' Dave have great health insurance and high wages that would be taxed more -- and don't give a shit what happens to the rest of us.
Gregory: what's your deadline?
Sibelius: hey the AMA endorsed the plan
Gregory: why doesn't he sign the bill?
Sibelius: he's not a member of Congress dumbass
Gregory: I'm scared about the pig flu
Sibelius: calm down stupid
.Shit, try 80 bucks worth of booze, whatever that was. I remember several shots of Jaimeson, after a dozen or so beers.
Moe Szyslak
And I thought I was bad last night with 4 beers, 2 shots of tequila, and a glass of wine.
I have a feeling GE's little spokesmodels like Dancin' Dave have great health insurance and high wages that would be taxed more -- and don't give a shit what happens to the rest of us.
plantsman, mad google skillz
That is not a feeling. That is a stone cold fact.
Larry rubs my laig!
Walgreens online photo center: Get $0.10 4x6 prints in quantities of 50 or more. Use code SUMMER50 on checkout.
Saw a PBS Nova recently that claimed it was insects that did them in...sand flies, mostly. Apparently dinosaurs shat a *lot* and the shit was everywhere in great piles, which attracted the flies and created diseases.
We humans had better watch our shit.
War On War Off
Interesting theory, but bullshit. Disease doesn't ever kill of entire populations. Evolution provides for this. The ones that are resistant multiply and pass on their resistance.
Lightweight!
Karatist Preacher |
bitch, if you only knew. did i mention that mary jane and i danced all night, between quaffs of wine?
ok, i'm going to go punish myself with exercise, sunshine, and the Pat Boone and Nancy Reagan orchestra doing the "Go" remixes by Moby in which the words are all changed to "just say no" over and over and over again...thanks for tolerating me, people. you're the best. simels is really, really gonna regret this hangover, i swear.
.I've often thought that was the reason for combining the two drugs, but I never had any evidence.
The scrip paperwork is substantially less onerous for the blended preparations, presumably because the APAP is a deterrent.
"Even as prices are now rising, production in Alaska is in permanent decline."
Peak Oil, Bitches!
Larry rubs my laig!
Jeffraham, public option
That is one handsome young man.
Hey JP, what happened to your stalker?
I have a feeling GE's little spokesmodels like Dancin' Dave have great health insurance and high wages that would be taxed more -- and don't give a shit what happens to the rest of us.
plantsman, mad google skillz | Homepage | 07.19.09 - 10:54 am | #
I wonder whether Jeff Imelt will decide to clear house at GE/NBC to confirm his message or if he will be overthrown by the banking people.
Good Morning, good people.
What was unstated but obvious was that Les Chiens Bleus are going to be very sorry if they vote against health care and their district has a lot of suddenly unensured people.
I think it's amusing that Obama (via Rahm) supposedly said that it was counterproductive to attack fellow Dems, and I remember people got upset over it. Yet now Organizing for America is putting ads on TV targeting the blue dogs on the Energy & Commerce Committee.
presumably because the APAP is a deterrent.
slartibartfast
Yeah I know, but it's the presumably that gets me. It would be interesting to know.
There's a site on the hinternet that tells you how to precipitate out the tylenol, btw.
bitch, if you only knew. did i mention that mary jane and i danced all night, between quaffs of wine?
Well that's different - feel better.
Adam Hominem: Hey JP, what happened to your stalker?
He was back a couple of nights ago. After I ID'd him as a local wingnut, he got bored and ran away.
I think it's amusing that Obama (via Rahm) supposedly said that it was counterproductive to attack fellow Dems, and I remember people got upset over it.
Those were the sophisticated leftists who trust Wapo's Ceci Connaly to steer 'em straign.
The IPCC reports, which are incredibly dated at this point, are the basis of the 85 percent figure.
Those were pretty conservative models. Missed a whole lot of feedback loops completely, like peat bog melt in the Arctic.
A friend of my wife works on that-- he's pretty prestigious, has a gigantic NSF grant to study it. He and his wife vacationed at our house last summer. We were sitting on the deck, BBQing, drinking into the night, and he was scaring the fuck out of me, just telling me about his work.
Thanks for the Walgreens tip, jp. I used them last time & it was a great deal.
Disease doesn't ever kill of entire populations.
Well IIRC their point was that it weakened them to the point where the comet finished them off, but that the comet alone could not have done the job.
.There's a site on the hinternet that tells you how to precipitate out the tylenol, btw.
Adam Hominem, thread killa
APAP is much more soluble in cold water than are the usual opiates. Of course, I'd say that by the time you're considering doing something like that, the best move would be to flush all the pills down the toilet immediately.
After I ID'd him as a local wingnut, he got bored and ran away.
Jeffraham, public option
That is one repulsive website.
After I ID'd him as a local wingnut, he got bored and ran away
Couldn't handle having a little light shed on him, eh?
Dick Cheney is dead
Well not really but it did give you a thrill.
the best move would be to flush all the pills down the toilet immediately.
slartibartfast
What have you got against fun?
(No, you're right, of course).
.were sitting on the deck, BBQing, drinking into the night,
There's nothing quite like burning a nice big pile of carbon to accompany a conversation like that.
Will Obamacare cover Senator Ensign's DC gynocolgist's bills?
Does he have an Ob/gyn back home in Las Veags, too? One should be plenty.
"Holy shit!"
http://www.tax.alaska.gov/progra...ewer.aspx?
1785f
Dick Cheney is dead
in Leavenworth
the words I really want to hear
Larry rubs my laig!
pickels eats my toes!
I can't wait till CoT translates Mitch McConnell.
plantsman, mad google skillz
no offense to C/T but that should be easy: Lie. demagogue, lie, demagogue, lie, fear-monger, lie, little bit o' racism, lie demagogue...
easy as pie. the equation never ends.
So it seems we won't know we've passed the tipping point until we've passed the tipping point?
Buckeye ...
Yea, well, we're all hypocrites. FWIW, I tell myself my beef has a zero GHG impact.
I have no idea if that's true, of course.
Gregory: is the President going to pass a health reform bill by August?
McConnell: we’ve only been doing this since 1993 why the rush?
Gregory: that’s a good point
McConnell: suddenly the GOP are worried about the debt since 1979
Gregory: wow and it’s expensive
McConnell: yes and it’s all going to be paid for by old people and small businesses
Gregory: that’s so sad
http://www.tax.alaska.gov/progra...ewer.aspx? 1785f
fred
An 88% shortfall is going to be a bit difficult to make up. Too bad they don't have the foresight to start thinking about it now.
FeralL: Couldn't handle having a little light shed on him, eh?
He used to like to Google my handle, and post stuff on the local wingnut gathering place, impressing everyone with his creepy Googling skillz, I reckon. Like wishing my brother a speedy recovery from his heart attack (which I mentioned here).
I drank lots of red wine and watched Out of Africa as Mr. Jill was out playing poker.
McConnell: plus Obama doesn’t care that America is the best country in the world
Gregory: they hate the U.S. don’t they
McConnell: they want to scrap the entire health care system and have all use leeches and trepanning
Gregory: but most people think the health care system completely sucks
McConnell: we have plan to fix the health care system
Gregory: what is it?
McConnell: tax cuts, wellness programs, and ending lawsuits against doctors
By Hubberts calculations (made in 1956)we will effectively run out of oil by 2100 and what little remains will be prohibitively expensive.
For most of us, we think in terms of battery powered cars, never contemplating the fact that most fertilizers are petroleum based.
We will not have enough to eat.
pickels eats my toes!
dirk gently, sociopathetic
Kittehs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dirk gently: pickels eats my toes!
NanoCurly!
pickels eats my toes!
Nancy blows the Republican caucus.
The IPCC reports, which are incredibly dated at this point, are the basis of the 85 percent figure.
Those were pretty conservative models. Missed a whole lot of feedback loops completely, like peat bog melt in the Arctic.
A friend of my wife works on that-- he's pretty prestigious, has a gigantic NSF grant to study it. He and his wife vacationed at our house last summer. We were sitting on the deck, BBQing, drinking into the night, and he was scaring the fuck out of me, just telling me about his work.
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 07.19.09 - 11:00 am | #
Just finished Climate Wars by Gywnne Dyer, and that's something he kept pointing out, that that the IPCC are already dated by the time they come out and that some of the models don't include the postive feedback aspects like methane release.
By Hubberts calculations (made in 1956)we will effectively run out of oil by 2100 and what little remains will be prohibitively expensive.
Unfortunately, there's Alberta.
We will not have enough to eat.
Shared Humanity | 07.19.09 - 11:05 am | #
The GOP produces enough bat guano to fertilize 11ty million planets.
McConnell: tax cuts, wellness programs, and ending lawsuits against doctors
Culture of TrÜth
A lot of them actually believe this shit. Like the link Atrios posted yesterday from Cato about insurance insurance.
Why don't these folks just go get their own country, and leave us sane people alone, already?
He used to like to Google my handle, and post stuff on the local wingnut gathering place
Wow! And they claim we need to get a life.
http://www.tax.alaska.gov/progra...ewer.aspx? 1785f
fred | 07.19.09 - 11:03 am | #
so it wasn't a sex scandle after all.
Well not really but it did give you a thrill.
Be still, my heart.
Why don't these folks just go get their own country, and leave us sane people alone, already?
Adam Hominem, thread killa | 07.19.09 - 11:07 am | #
insanistan needs wingers!
We are not going to run out of oil. What is going to happen is that extraction costs are going to rise exponentially. The last gallon of oil will cost an infinite amount of money.
Be still, his heart.
Karin Hussein | 07.19.09 - 11:07 am | #
fyt. i meant with natural causes, so don't ban me.
"Too bad they don't have the foresight to start thinking about it now."
Alaska's a giant welfare state. Would you want to be the one to break the bad news?
Karin -- That Walgreens code, SUMMER50, is good through next Saturday, 7/25.
Gregory: dude 47 million Americans don’t have insurance
McConnell: yes but they do get free inefficient health care
Gregory: Ted Kennedy has a brain tumor and makes more sense that you
McConnell: Government health care is unfair because it will be better and cheaper and that will put insurers out of business
Gregory: so what’s wrong with that
McConnell: some guy in Canada once died
Gregory: Jim DeMint is like Ivan Drago he must break Obama
"Too bad they don't have the foresight to start thinking about it now."
methinks sarah was thinking about it.
.For most of us, we think in terms of battery powered cars, never contemplating the fact that most fertilizers are petroleum based.
We will not have enough to eat.
Shared Humanity
IIUC, the petroleum is only used as a source of energy for the Haber process or whatever variant of it is now used to fix nitrogen chemically. This could therefore in theory be replaced by some more sustainable source of energy. The really perverse thing about all this, though, is that we throw an immense quantitity of potential organic fertilizer away right now rather than cycling it back into our agriculture. And of course throwing it away often means washing it into the sea, which is then poisoned by massive algal blooms. Once oil reaches a certain price, I sure hope that this practice will come to an end.
"Son, this is the last gallon of gas on earth. So when you take Becky to the drive-in tonight, make sure you get laid. '
We are not going to run out of oil. What is going to happen is that extraction costs are going to rise exponentially. The last gallon of oil will cost an infinite amount of money.
Adam Hominem
True, but it's a long way off.
There's more oil in the tar sand than there is in Saudi Arabia. Profitability was at around $100 a barrel, and now they're saying as low as $85/barrel.
I don't know if those prices are sustainable, but they lasted for a year or so before they collapsed... We'll find out soon enough, I guess.
McConnell: Greggers I will stand against a socialist hell
Gregory: was the stimulus too big or too small?
McConnell: the stimulus clearly failed so we should start enacting Republican policies which have a great track record
methinks sarah was thinking about it.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
Yep.
Gregory: why do oppose Sonia Sotomayor who is so adorable
McConnell: hey I love ethnic minorities I married one
Gregory: so why not
McConnell: she lets her hot Latina views obscure what should be her white male objectivity
Gregory: please bash Obama on Afghanistan
McConnell: no he’s irrationally kicking ass and I like that because he’s keep Americans safe from terrorists
Gregory: except for the American held hostage by terrorists
McConnell: um right
There's more oil in the tar sand
and we can use the sand to build beaches in alaska, once it warms up a little more there.
"Son, this is the last gallon of gas on earth. So when you take Becky to the drive-in tonight, make sure you get laid. '
leibniz♘☮
Looking at Hubberts charts he always assumed huge future discoveries and was able to demonstrate that it simply did not matter. Even if his calculations of massive undiscovered amounts of oil was a gross underestimation, it did not change the outcome. It only delayed it.
Moe, have you ever looked in to what the comparative cost of recycling all of our cow poop and piss into nitrogen fertilizer would be?
Yep.
Adam Hominem, thread killa
i wonder if the new governor (referenced by cnn in one of their transcripts as "unidentified male") knows how deep the shit he's stepping into is?
Cats need a pettin'.
brb
Why not read this Jimmy Carter opinion instead of TV pundits:
''' I am also familiar with vivid descriptions in the same Scriptures in which women are revered as pre-eminent leaders. During the years of the early Christian church women served as deacons, priests, bishops, apostles, teachers and prophets. It wasn't until the fourth century that dominant Christian leaders, all men, twisted and distorted Holy Scriptures to perpetuate their ascendant positions within the religious hierarchy.
The truth is that male religious leaders have had - and still have - an option to interpret holy teachings either to exalt or subjugate women. They have, for their own selfish ends, overwhelmingly chosen the latter. Their continuing choice provides the foundation or justification for much of the pervasive persecution and abuse of women throughout the world. '''
http://www.theage.com.au/opinion...0v.html?page=-
1
IIUC, the petroleum is only used as a source of energy for the Haber process or whatever variant of it is now used to fix nitrogen chemically. This could therefore in theory be replaced by some more sustainable source of energy.
This makes me feel a little better.
Moe, have you ever looked in to what the comparative cost of recycling all of our cow poop and piss into nitrogen fertilizer would be?
slartibartfas
Well, that's what the entire "grass farming" thing is all about. Why go through an industrial process when you can just have them poop on the ground?
Before the petroleum age, about a quarter of all farm land in the US was devoted to the horse. That's a lot of fertilizer.
.This makes me feel a little better.
Shared Humanity
of course, when the whole CA Central Valley is underwater, it won't matter if you got fertilizer or not....
Gregory: To me the biggest issue is repeating GOP talking points - i mean, containing costs
Hardwood: we need to raise taxes on health care benefits cause suddenly the GOP loves raising taxes
Gregory: Obama is defensive isn't he
Gigot: well people love him but secretly the American people yearn for a right-wing dictator
Gregory: higher tax rates than France!
Gigot: i know fluffers!
Gregory: [ high pitched voice ] oh. my. god!
Norris: Obama's all over place - it's crazy!!
Driving through rural Wisconsin, near Reedsburg. There is nothing quite like the smell when the farmers are spraying liquid poop on their fields.
Someone should send fred's link to Our Gracious Host. I would, but OGH ignores my e-mails.
.Well, that's what the entire "grass farming" thing is all about. Why go through an industrial process when you can just have them poop on the ground?
Can you practically/economically have them pooping on the same ground you will later till and plant with corn?
That's why I claim-- with no hard evidence-- that my beef is GHG neutral. My farmer has a meadow, which he inherited from his father. When he first started farming on his own, the soil was pretty thin, big gullies and washouts. Over the decades, he's rehabilitated it by applying composts and manure, and using smart grazing techniques. It's now thick loam-- a GHG sink.
satan has been busy in morthern pa.
he buried a bunch of fake fish
Gregory: dick is Obama a total failure?
Wolffe: he will be if he doesn't twist some arms like Lyndon Johnson
Norris: the public doesn't want this crazy rush to reform health care they love the current system
Gigot: he's making a mistake of governing to the left
Gregory: so what should he do?
Gigot: give the poor tax credits and put John McCain in charge
Gregory: of course
I would, but OGH ignores my e-mails.
Adam Hominem, thread killa | 07.19.09 - 11:20 am | #
pffft. he won't even bother to ban me.
Driving through rural Wisconsin, near Reedsburg. There is nothing quite like the smell when the farmers are spraying liquid poop on their fields.
Shared Humanity | 07.19.09 - 11:20 am | #
steel mills
and paper plants
are like scented
flowers
Can you practically/economically have them pooping on the same ground you will later till and plant with corn?
slartibartfast
We grow way too much corn. But yea. That's how they did before synthetic fertilizers.
Can you practically/economically have them pooping on the same ground you will later till and plant with corn?
These farms in Wisconsin have these massive concrete holding ponds where liquid shit percolates until it is pumped into tanks and sprayed on the fields.
These farms in Wisconsin have these massive concrete holding ponds where liquid shit percolates until it is pumped into tanks and sprayed on the fields.
Shared Humanity
Unless they overflow, or the concrete fails, and the poop ends up in the ground water. Which does happen.
Gregory: Let's talk about blueprint of returning my best friends the Republicans to power
Hardwood: McConnell is exactly right - suddenly spending and debt matters since 1981
Wolffe: um dudes Obama is popular even in Michigan
Gregory: that can't be right i hate Obama
Gigot: i can't believe he hasn't fixed
all of Bus's mistakes - we should elect more Republicans
.We grow way too much corn. But yea. That's how they did before synthetic fertilizers.
Moe Szyslak
Agreed. Presumably when we stop feeding it all to our cows, we won't need to grow quite so much of it though.
How do they get the cows to shit in the massive concrete holding ponds?
These farms in Wisconsin have these massive concrete holding ponds where liquid shit percolates until it is pumped into tanks and sprayed on the fields.
Shared Humanity
The problem is the scale of it.
If we had lots of small farms with just a few animals on each...
That's how they did before synthetic fertilizers.
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 07.19.09 - 11:22 am | #
i thought the indians taught them to bury dead fish under the maize?
that's what we learned in grade school. i know, because if the teacher had talked about poop we would have remembered.
How do they get the cows to shit in the massive concrete holding ponds?
Jeffraham, public option
Mostly, it's pigs. And you don't want to know.
If we had lots of small farms with just a few animals on each...
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 07.19.09 - 11:24 am | #
we'd need a much smaller ration of cityfolk to farmers
Curly seems to be more popular than LarryElvis.
Mmmm. Nothing like contemplating the smell of massive quantities of festering pig shit to sharpen the piquancy of one's hangover.....
How do they get the cows to shit in the massive concrete holding ponds?
high fiber diets.
we'd need a much smaller ration of cityfolk to farmers
dirk gently
Yep.
Which is why we shouldn't villify rural life. It's part of the solution to our problems.
Also, urban farming.
Gregory: OMG the AP said after 4 weeks of not being in public and then being in public Hillary is too powerful and not powerful enough!!!
Norris: i gotta call bullshit on that Greggers
Hardwood: who gives a shit about this silly gossip
Gregory: she's had a hidden agenda to take the Presidency away from Obama doesn't she
Wolffe: i heard you gossip-trading dick
Curly seems to be more popular than LarryElvis.
the exotic requires a sophisticated taste, curly appeals more to the masses.
I need to get some food into me.
Cows can only eat corn for a limited amount of time. Then they die. (Well, actually they are off to the slaughterhouse to be turned into meat).
It's not a natural part of their diet.
Also, urban farming.
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 07.19.09 - 11:26 am | #
is there an app for that?
"How do they get the cows to shit in the massive concrete holding ponds?"
You can lead a cow to shit, but you can't ...
dirk gently: the exotic requires a sophisticated taste, curly appeals more to the masses.
Are Siamese cats really "exotic," though?
It's not a natural part of their diet.
Adam Hominem, thread killa | 07.19.09 - 11:27 am | #
neither is ground up cow parts.
it makes them mad.
I need to get some food into me.
Moe Szyslak
Have some corn.
There's no doubt that corn finishing makes beef taste better, but my understanding is that nowadays it's often corn from the get-go, just to shorten to-market time.
Are Siamese cats really "exotic," though?
they look like they are, and that's all it takes.
Have some corn.
Adam Hominem, thread killa | 07.19.09 - 11:29 am | #
amd ground up cow parts.
steel mills
and paper plants
are like scented
flowers
reminds me of a poem called The Invention of New Jersey.
Place a custard stand in a garden
or in place of a custard stand
place a tumbled-down custard stand
in place of a tumbled-down custard stand place miniature golf in a garden and an advertisement for miniature golf shaped for no apparent reason like an old Dutch windmill In place of a swamp, place a swamp
Or a pizzeria called the Tower of Pizza sporting a scale model of the Tower of Pisa
or a water tower resembling
a roll-on deodorant
or a Dixie cup factory
with a giant metal Dixie Cup on the roof.
Are Siamese cats really "exotic," though?
Jeffraham, public option
I once lived with two of them, and they certainly thought so.
Well, those line breaks got kind of messed up but you get the idea
Are Siamese cats really "exotic," though?
They're just jerks.
There's no doubt that corn finishing makes beef taste better,
Slow down, mister.
You should try the grass-fed Galloway beef in my freezer. It's like no other meat you've ever had. I spring it on people, without telling them what it is, and they're simply amazed. "What is this?"
They've never had decent beef before.
I love the husky and expressive meow of the Siamese cat.
AndyG: They're just jerks.
Not Larry. He's insane, and bounces off the walls a lot, but he's also the neediest love sponge of a cat ever created.
I like Curly, but I was here when LE came home, and he stole my heart.
I have a crush on the big tabby.
.corn finishing makes beef taste better,
Slow down, mister.
Well I've tasted all kinds of grass-fed beef from CA, and although the flavor is great, the fat content is inadequate for some applications. Does this Galloway outfit get around that somehow?
oscar thinks he is exotic because he's different, but his siblings think him a common tabby.
I love the husky and expressive meow of the Siamese cat.
slartibartfast
It's really something, alright.
This seems strange coming from a former carbaholic fat guy, but these days, I have trouble eating enough if it gets too warm.
Does this Galloway outfit get around that somehow?
slartibartfast
Each cow gets a gross of Hershey's kisses a day.
So, the heat wave I was hoping was going away, isn't -- in fact, next weekend is forecast to really suck.
plantsman, do I need to remind you that diabetes considerably lowers heat resistance? 'Cause I shoulda reminded myself of that, yesterday, before the heat prostration kicked in.
the fat content is inadequate for some applications.....
Exactly what do you do with your beef?
Does this Galloway outfit get around that somehow?
Galloway is a breed of cattle, from Scotland. Likes the weather here.
I don't know why you want fat meat.
But, I gotta go find some food myself. See ya later.
I need some Truvia sweetener for iced tea when it gets hot, and I can't afford it this week.
.Exactly what do you do with your beef?
Shared Humanity
Dozens of different things. The applications I'm referring to in this case is grilling it as steaks.
And no, you needn't remind me -- heat wipes me out, these days.
Italian ice is wonderful in this weather.
Diabetes also means your body should not have much fat at all, and only "good" fats. You adjust, but your skin gets dry.
Here's a thought that will stick in your craw.
The 1.4 million dollars spent daily by the health industry to derail any effort at meaningful health care reform is entirely tax deductible, courtesy of the American people,the very beneficiaries of reform.
..and what the hell is a craw anyway?
I think it's the back of your mouth/top of your throat.
Nope. The Dictionary says: (chiefly humorous) The stomach of a person or animal.
.I don't know why you want fat meat.
Well you're gone now, but for the record, I want fat meat for steaks, texas BBQ, and some braising applications, because it just doesn't come out tender and juicy if it's too lean. For ground beef applications like burgers and spaghetti sauce or for thin-sliced stir fry meat, very lean meat is just fine.
For inquiring minds.
The craw is the crop or preliminary stomach of a fowl, where food is predigested.
...specifically where it is usually ground up with stones that the animal has swallowed. Apparently herbivorous dinosaurs had them too.
The craw is the crop or preliminary stomach of a fowl, where food is predigested.
thnx.
It's a drag being price-conscious probably had a lot to do with that late blight outbreak in the Northeast, but there it is.
...For my part, I like the Niman Ranch model, where various bad practices are forbidden and most of the progression to market weight is on pure grass, followed by a relatively brief finishing on a mixed diet.
...and now I must go have a day. L8trzz.
I don't know why you want fat meat.
heh...heh...heh...
Not familiar with marbling, eh?
time to clean house.
bbl
I see the Niman Ranch Stuff in the Williams-Sonoma Catalog and it looks good, but I never feel like I can afford it.
owlssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
Are Siamese cats really "exotic," though?
Had one for 19-1/2 years. Lost him in June 1994.
Not a day goes by that I don't think about him.
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