I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
aha
oh a first, how cheering...
Okay, a second...
Enjoy what, exactly?
'evenin', all
back from vacation. So I check out a thread, after not reading the paper for a while. Russia and Georgia at war. John Edwards joins the ranks of the zipper-challenged. McCain hasn't gotten any more attractive. A troll is after Simels, and another denies the special theory of relativity.
Did enjoy Krugman calling a spade a fucking shovel, though:
Republicans, once hailed as the “party of ideas,” have become the party of stupid.
...know-nothingism — the insistence that there are simple, brute-force, instant-gratification answers to every problem, and that there’s something effeminate and weak about anyone who suggests otherwise — has become the core of Republican policy and political strategy. The party’s de facto slogan has become: “Real men don’t think things through.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/0...=th& oref=slogin
Via ovicapitum dura est...
Rewhore. The only damn thing I've posted all day. I've been clearing out old files on the 'puter.
I finished reading Ken MacLeod's new novel The Night Sessions, i was so excited when it arrived from Amazon on Wednesday, I don't normally get like that with books but i adore Ken MacLeod.
its a bloody good book btw, i just could not put it down
Libby: good cite. True, of course.
Didn't McCain hold simultaneously two marriage licenses? Bigamy, that, and a crime in every state, if so...
Okay, change "don't fuck around" to don't start a world-wide conflagration.
RUSSIA, Bitches. The bitches being Sweden, Poland, Turkey, France and Germany.
Maybe I should read a good book. The news is so damn depressing.
That troll after Simels is just inert bullshit.
My fervent wish around here is that folks wouldn't feed it, because all it is is thread noise, but I guess some people were just born to stuff their faces with troll splooge. Maybe it tastes good and is less filling?
We went to Boothbay Harbor today!
Afternoon, good people. And welcome back, Prof. Wombat. I always appreciate seeing your incisive comments.
i'm not in the mood to enjoy.
just found out the my high school best friend's brother died of cancer yesterday. actually, he's my best friend ever, but i haven't talked to him in over a year. now i have to call him.
i'm not ready yet.
Okay, change "don't fuck around" to don't start a world-wide conflagration.
Are you talking about the United States deliberately agitating all Muslims? You can't be talking about Georgia. How is Georgia world-wide?
And, of course, the Russian people, than whom nobody has suffered greater under the Russian yoke...
From Digby..........
If you haven't come across this article on John McCain by a reporter who covered him in his home state for many years, do yourself a favor and read it. It tells the story of a much more complicated man than the mainstream press will admit to and talks about some of the episodes of his past that should have caused him much more trouble in his political life than they did. His POW status has protected him from the problems of ordinary politicians. And, unsurprisingly, he is a liar a hypocrite and a jerk. But we knew that: As the story goes, John McCain and his friends wanted her out immediately. And, they figured, they had the mechanism in place to do it. Mecham was gone, but the recall effort was still in place. Why not shift gears and target Mofford instead? The Democrats didn't like that one bit and asked the Arizona Supreme Court to consider the legality.
In mid-April 1988, Mofford and some staff flew to Washington for, as one former aide puts it, the "perfunctory wet kiss" meeting with the Arizona congressional delegation. Even in mean old D.C., there's such a thing as protocol, and the tour was expected to go along without incident.
At 10 in the morning on April 12, Mofford testified before the Senate Energy and Water Development Subcommittee on Appropriations on the topic of the Central Arizona Project.
Now, Mofford had been governor for only eight days. Before that, her main task had been running the state's elections department. This appearance (there was a similar one, later that day, before the House) had been billed as ceremonial. She was not familiar with the particulars of federal water law. Nor did her staff think she'd be expected to be — just then.
But, apparently, Senator James McClure, a Republican from Idaho, did. After a lot of looking, that librarian and I (actually, it took three librarians) tracked down the testimony from that day. McClure asked Mofford a series of questions that would leave any water expert's mouth dry. Her staff jumped in to try to answer, but even so, ultimately they had to file an addendum to the testimony.Word spread quickly about what had happened.
Coincidentally, that very same day, Pat Murphy, then publisher of the Arizona Republic, was also in Washington to meet with the delegation. He and his wife had lunch plans with McCain, and as Murphy recalls, they went to the hearing room where Mofford was testifying, to meet up with him. Murphy had written glowingly of McCain and considered him a personal friend.
As Murphy recounted in an e-mail recently (he left the Republic many years ago, and now lives in Idaho), the incident crushed him. He says it was the beginning of the end of his respect for and friendship with McCain."We peeked in the room," wrote Murphy. "McCain saw us, excused himself, and we three went to the Senate dining room for lunch.
"During lunch, McCain said, almost with mischievous glee, that he had slipped some highly technic
hey Diane--back atcha, babe
Mediocre stereotype-driven stand-up comedy will be pretty much the same again.
Say it isn't so!!!
unconfirmed sources:
Osteen's Wife Claims She Was Just Fondling Flight Attendant's Breasts
Didn't McCain hold simultaneously two marriage licenses? Bigamy, that, and a crime in every state, if so...
ProfWombat
I've been thinking that too. I've been wanting to push that point, but I'm not sure if it was illegal as long as he didn't actually marry her before the divorce went through.
I guess some people were just born to stuff their faces with troll splooge. Maybe it tastes good and is less filling?
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
I'll never read the story "Three Billy Goats Gruff" the same way again.
dirk,
I'm sorry for your sadness. I know what you mean about calling your friend.
{{{{hugs}}}
the Russians did not do so well in the Crimean War
considered the first 'modern conflict' along with your American Civil War
Osteen's Wife Claims She Was Just Fondling Flight Attendant's Breasts
JOEL Osteen as in the Purpose-Driven Breasts? Oh please let it be so.
BTW, NTodd, I do believe Cindy Sheehan has qualified for the November ballot as an independent. Nancy Pelosi has a challenger.
not in the mood to enjoy.
just found out the my high school best friend's brother died of cancer yesterday. actually, he's my best friend ever, but i haven't talked to him in over a year. now i have to call him.
i'm not ready yet.
dirk gently,melancoholic
Oh, I'm so sorry to hear that. It's horrible when stuff like that happens.
Georgia could well be Russia's equivalent of Grenada or Panama, a military confrontation for to burnish the image of the Russian army in the eyes of Russian citizens.
"Ron Suskind's a loser. We need to show more footage of Misty May giving Bush a volleyball lesson"-cable news
the war between Iraq and Iran was fought with what could only be describe as WW1 tactics
/sorry been watching House of Saddam on BBC 2, a HBO/BBC production about yes you guessed it Saddam and his family
first episode focused on the Iraq-Iran war
Nancy Pelosi has a challenger
Woo hoo!!!!
"We peeked in the room," wrote Murphy. "McCain saw us, excused himself, and we three went to the Senate dining room for lunch.
"During lunch, McCain said, almost with mischievous glee, that he had slipped some highly technical questions to [James McClure] to ask Mofford — questions she wouldn't be prepared to answer or expected to answer.
"Flabbergasted, I asked McCain why would he want to sabotage Mofford's testimony, when in fact the CAP was the nonpartisan pet of Republicans and Democrats — such as far-left Udall and far-right Goldwater — since its inception.
"His reply, as near as I remember, was, 'I'll embarrass a Democrat any time I get the chance.'
"The lunch continued in s
BTW, NTodd, I do believe Cindy Sheehan has qualified for the November ballot as an independent. Nancy Pelosi has a challenger.
She did indeed! I got her update and have been meaning to blog it, but have been having too much fun to feel in the mood. But it's fucking great news!
Osteen's Wife Claims She Was Just Fondling Flight Attendant's Breasts
"What, you can't do that? What did we pay so much to get first class for then? My husband is a superchurch pastor! I just wanted to see if they were real! Besides, fondling breasts isn't as bad as if I were, say, molesting her somehow!"
Deadthreaded:
Excuse Me!?!?!
Heh...
racymind
Hey, I'm not going to promote the competition 
Peace, dirk.
Via ovicapitum dura est...
ProfWombat
I'm an engineer, so help me out... 'strength comes from eggheads'?
Osteen's Wife Claims She Was Just Fondling Flight Attendant's Breasts
JOEL Osteen as in the Purpose-Driven Breasts? Oh please let it be so.
k&y, nyarlathotep
That's Rick Warren. Osteen is Your Best Breast Now!.
Why is every motherfucker a freakin' nationalist?
I saw that piece Digby flagged last night but was too tired to blog it. It's long and hard to excerpt but it definitely needs all the exposure it can get.
"His reply, as near as I remember, was, 'I'll embarrass a Democrat any time I get the chance.'
Yah - and in this particular instance it was nearly at the expense of the entire State of Arizona. Not endearing.
I an craving good Chinese food.
yeah, well. it never stops, does it? and more often as we get older. although this was our younger brother - i say our because i lived with their family in our senior year after mom moved to florida.
i guess i better go make some phone calls. see y'all later. and thanks.
"His reply, as near as I remember, was, 'I'll embarrass a Democrat any time I get the chance.'
Remember that quote every time the media try to Claim McCain does not want to go negative, and that it is Rove. who is doing it.
www.phoenixnewtimes.com
Amy Silverman, "Postmodern McCain"
Amy Silverman, John Dougherty, Tom Fitzpatrick, all have been covering McCain since the first. It's nice that their work is being examined outside of AZ.
His reply, as near as I remember, was, "I'm a vindictive cantankerous prick, what, you didn't know that?"
I've got some pretty big knockers myself.
I an craving good Chinese food.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
I've been craving it for three years. You can't get in this little burg, and I don't know where in the big city to find the good stuff.
On the bright side, I found a good Indian restaurant, but it's too far to drive to on a whim.
Yah - and in this particular instance it was nearly at the expense of the entire State of Arizona. Not endearing.
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian
I would imagine not. Messing around with water is just not very wise, especially in that state.
Wait a minute, is that gossip site parody? The grammar of the sentence describing physical violence sounds like it comes from a non-English speaker.
one word...
yoda.
and in this particular instance it was nearly at the expense of the entire State of Arizona. Not endearing.
Maverick = spoiled brat, ego-centric idjit
Vicki, you mentioning that oil find in North Dakota
got me to Googling. The Rat Wang Sites are all over it -- and of course, it would be incredibly helpful to McCain.
firedoglake consistently crashes my browser. It's very annoying.
HousChron: McKamie also brought up a remark Osteen made in a sermon that, "Without me, Victoria would be in prison."
Osteen's attorney had him clarify that the remark was hyperbole about his wife's penchant to try new things: "Without Victoria, I'm boring. Without me, Victoria would be in prison."
Both laughed at the comment when asked about it on the stand.
Riiiiight.
firedoglake consistently crashes my browser. It's very annoying.
It consistently crashes my patience.
Mind you, I do miss Upper Volta terribly.
This is obviously going to be their tactic. Go negative, and then claim McCain is not doung it, Rove is.
unconfirmed sources:
Is this the replacement for The Weekly World News? Haven't spotted it at the checkout...
"Without Victoria, I'm boring. Without me, Victoria would be in prison."
I'm sorry, but that's funny.
I would imagine not. Messing around with water is just not very wise, especially in that state.
Messing with Rose Mofford was especially puerile - after Ev Mecham and all that horror, Rose was the woman we needed to pull ourselves together. Trying to sabotage her (she'd been Governor for 8 days at the time of her committee appearance) wasn't just party politics - it was personal. And vicious.
Good evening.
We're having a rough go of it with our various home improvement projects. I keep hurting myself.
firedoglake consistently crashes my browser. It's very annoying.
It consistently crashes my patience.
NTodd, BJA Twitter General
Funny, it consistently raises my impatience with sleazebag GOPers.
melior: 'the way of the egghead is hard', famously said by Adlai Stevenson...
The Russian Army crushing Georgia would, in the end, be highly counterproductive even for Russia, and not nearly so effective as the odd occasional turn of the natural gas spigot.
Strange, the timing. Were I Putin, I'd have waited until after the Olympics, much less the American elections. Don't see how traditional Russian paranoia is served by injecting an image of a bellicose, barely restrained Russia into the zeitgeist...
No, their strategy; playing out today, is having a Government Agency say there are vast supplies of easily-accessible oil in The Bakken , and so of course, we must rape the planet.
A certain amount of truth to the Victoria Osteen story. We're guessing that both Joel and Victoria Osteen are gay. They're each gorgeous, but neither heterosexually.
firedoglake consistently crashes my browser.
Yeah...I rarely go there because of that, and it's too quirky.
Or rather Osteen story here
It sounds like the ugly and predictable truth is that these people are just rich bitches who like abusing the help like a Saud.
I dunno Wombat, maybe he doesn't care, or more likely, it just flared up.
'the way of the egghead is hard', famously said by Adlai Stevenson...
Thanks, Prof!
iredoglake consistently crashes my browser. It's very annoying.
firefox + adblock + adblock filterset g updater + noscript
noscript by itself will hugely increase stability. Only run javascript on sites where you've whitelisted it. Makes the net much less annoying.
plantsman: yup. Limitless cheap oil would be a disaster. But it wouldn't show up as one on the next quarter's balance sheets.
I an craving good Chinese food.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
Are you plegnant?
Didn't McCain hold simultaneously two marriage licenses? Bigamy, that, and a crime in every state, if so...
Maybe...
How is it good news for McCain? Did Obama say something about not drilling in Montana? And yet, even this find is not going to bring back Hummers.
Actually, I hardly ever do either, but I happened to stop by and then I was trying to read something Thers wrote. Oh well.
CoT: that's how the Times article played it, a series of escalating, stupid provocations rather than a grand plan...
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/1...10traub.html?
hp
idn't McCain hold simultaneously two marriage licenses?
I repeat. They were not marriage licenses. They were certificates of live wedding.
my cousin D was very pregnant, she and her hubbie and their son were at the family gathering
her mum, my Aunty B was naturally very excited at another grandchild
I second what MikeJ said.
http://noscript.net is da bomb.
(Oops, sorry NSA!)
Say, what are you hate-filled losers up to this afternoon? Lying abt your betters?
They're saying the oil could be extracted cheaply, $16.00 a barrel and they already have a majority of the country clamoring for drilling.
civil war is the ulitimate oxymoron.
I was trying to read something Thers wrote.
When did he learn to write?
its 23:11pm here in the UK
I repeat. They were not marriage licenses. They were certificates of live wedding.
MikeJ
Please explain the term...Google returns all sorts of odd things.
MikeJ:
They were certificates of live wedding.
It's gonna be funny when Obamachrist finally releases his actual birth certificate.
Hangover from the last post:
Joke Line has already tied himself in knots "misunderstanding" which of McCain's marital dalliances actually occurred.
Apparently it's too much to ask somebody who until recently thought McCain was so honorable (not to mention, somebody whose freakin' job it's supposed to be to keep up with US politics) to have read any of the ocean of information about the Republican Presidential nominee.
There's no way Klein had never heard of the adultery with Cindy McCain, unless he's abjectly incompetent at his job. His reply is just a preview of how the mediawhores are going to try to muddy the issue and have this one, as usual, both ways (circus mode on Edwards, silence on McCain).
mmmmm. Oil in the bacon.
Didn't McCain hold simultaneously two marriage licenses?
"Your point?"
/mitt romney
Why would you care if we lie about "betters" -- that would not include you?
civil war is the ulitimate oxymoron.
fokowi
I plan on stealing that, fokowi. It's one of the better comments I've seen.
fried egg and bacon with toast
yum
Man proposes, Mother Earth disposes. But you can call her YHWH or God or Allah if it makes it easier for you.
Please explain the term...Google returns all sorts of odd things.
A joke. The Obama birth certificate truthers are constantly going on about birth certificates v. "certificate of live birth", as if they were two different things.
fried egg and bacon with toast
Mmmmm. Be back in a few minutes...
Diane: that, and 'war crime' is the ultimate redundancy...
It's one of the better comments I've seen.
Really? Because it's a standard-issue bumper sticker on every pre-1990 Vanagon in Austin.
Toby being philosophical. Adorable.
how about 'Just War' i think thats an oxymoron
a useful excused to kill lots of people
"Russian peace keepers is a little oxy"
"Military justice is to justice as military music is to music" is my favorite.
A joke. The Obama birth certificate truthers are constantly going on about birth certificates v. "certificate of live birth", as if they were two different things.
Oh crap, that's funny.
Larry Johnson: the gift that keeps on giving.
That's because they are, MikeJ. Why would you lie abt something so easily disproven?
oxy would be a great troll nym
Ken MacLeod puts it better than I - Nothing has done more to corrupt humanity than the attempt to civilise warfare. Just War Theory is an utter perversion of the moral sense, a doctrine of literally mediaeval barbarism, invented by clerics to regulate wars between Christian kings. Its finest moral discrimination to date is that it's legitimate to kill a munitions worker on his way to work, but a crime to kill him on his way home. It tells us that to aim a bomb at an enemy soldier and kill a hundred civilians is - if the necessity is there - legitimate collateral damage, but to deliberately aim one bullet at one enemy civilian is murder.
http://kenmacleod.blogspot.com/
2...01_archive.html
They're saying the oil could be extracted cheaply, $16.00 a barrel and they already have a majority of the country clamoring for drilling.
plantsman, these are hardly newly discovered reserves. The Canadian 1970 map shows all the Southern Saskatchewan reserves, from Weyburn to Esteban to Souris - due north of Minot. http://atlas.nrcan.gc.ca/site/en...ty=2130&
mag=0.5
There are significant reasons why this oil hasn't been extracted - and it's not ease of extraction but quality. These oil resources are really 8th rate stuff - so you end up extracting stuff that has to be refined and refined and refined and refined and refined....
Local news covering Edwards.
JESUS.
Stop it already.
In its pedantic, casuistic jesuitry it still stinks of the cringing, quibbling fusspots who invented it, and retains too its usefulness to a useless and barbaric ruling class. It does nothing whatsoever to restrain their behaviour. Its only function is to befuddle those who oppose, protest and fight them. It justifies every horrific, predictable consequence of imperialist assault as an unintended consequence, and condemns every horrific, predictable consequence of resistance to that assault as an intended consequence.
http://kenmacleod.blogspot.com/
2...01_archive.html
Edwards affair-- ooh, titilating!
The machine gun was invented supposedly to make warfare more humane (removing the need for large numbers of riflemen to create the kind of firepower necessary to win battles).
Worked out just great on the Somme.
sorry but fuck Just War
i think its a load of bullshit
That's because they are, MikeJ. Why would you lie abt something so easily disproven?
Perhaps you can disprove it if it's so easy.
Edwards affair-- ooh, titilating!
Swan
Not really.
Nonetheless, The US Gov't today released a study saying reserves are far larger than previously thought, and more easily accessible.
And, of course, there's always, "Humans plan, God laughs."
Who let the lying dog-burner back in?
It sounds like the ugly and predictable truth is that these people are just rich bitches who like abusing the help like a Saud.
k&y, nyarlathotep
According to local news, the first day's jury selection was nothing but people who love and admire the Osteens, buy all their books, and attend every "service" they offer.
Gonna be interesting to see what the jury does with this.
A joke. The Obama birth certificate truthers are constantly going on about birth certificates v. "certificate of live birth", as if they were two different things.
MikeJ
Ah! Sorry to make you kill the joke by explaining it...
I once had a fishing license, but my enemies disputed me, saying it was instead a license for catching fish, and since I did not have a catcher's mitt I was not qualified to be president.
I was relieved because that job sucks.
My local news is leading with stories of McCain's affairs.**
**Brett Favre, actually.
The Obama birth certificate truthers are constantly going on about birth certificates v. "certificate of live birth", as if they were two different things.
Tsk tsk....the desperation, it burns.
Ahh, thanks to NTodd's quoting I see one of my lessers addressed me. Sorry, not interesting enough to leave the killfile.
Nonetheless, The US Gov't today released a study saying reserves are
far larger than previously thought, and more easily accessible.
My gudness sakes - why would they deliberately pervert the facts? :wink:
Sorry to read that Dirk.
They're saying the oil could be extracted cheaply, $16.00 a barrel and they already have a majority of the country clamoring for drilling.
And everybody who believes that the oil companies would be selling it to us at an evuivalent dicount can stand up and raise both feet in agreement.
A roadblock that catches drunks is successful. A
roadblock that catches no drunks is successful. We have always been at
war with drivers
**Brett Favre, actually.
Finally, he's NY's problem.
It's 4:20 Mountain time.
*going to Albequerque in my mind*
As much fun as it is to watch Dog Burner flail, we gotta go to dinner. l8rh9rz.
The freepers expect to find a doc stating that Obama was born of a muslim woman and a jackal.
Which is ridiculous, since they don't put religion on birth certificates.
Header at kos, by kos:
Lieberman being vetted as possible McCain Veep
You can have him, McCain.
Scotch makes me type in Dyslexic.
Rmj, Poor Man's Theologist
Apparently the accusing stewardess is black.
A roadblock that gets people used to the right of police to conduct a roadblock is successful.
There are those churlish enough, indeed, to think this their main purpose...
Back to home improvement...later.
Scotch makes me type in Dyslexic.
Not until after labour day. I'm sipping my white shoed ginned now.
The machine gun was invented supposedly to make warfare more humane (removing the need for large numbers of riflemen to create the kind of firepower necessary to win battles).
Worked out just great on the Somme.
Doc
Morphine was to help opium addicts...heroin to help morphine addicts...then comes methadone...it's such fun helping people.
Hmm. Releasing a study that says all our energy problems are solved cheaply, right in the middle of a Presidential Campaign?
And I never knew until now that gin had a past tense as a noun.
Nonetheless, The Cheney administration today released a study saying reserves are
far larger than previously thought, and more easily accessible.
Fricasseed your tulips.
A roadblock that gets people used to the right of police to conduct a roadblock is successful.
There are those churlish enough, indeed, to think this their main purpose...
ProfWombat
A friend of mine wrote a letter to the paper noting that in Europe you can cross national boundaries all day without showing papers, but in Georgia on a Friday night you can't even cross the county line without being stopped at a roadblock.
just found out the my high school best friend's brother died of cancer yesterday. actually, he's my best friend ever, but i haven't talked to him in over a year. now i have to call him.
i'm not ready yet.
dirk gently,melancoholic
My condolences.
the guillotine was a supposed to be more humane way compared to hanging apparently
yeah right!
Various Chicago police officers fired or
suspended for conduct unbecoming a human being. Best one: Officer
demanding free Starbucks coffee from five different stores, sometimes
flashing her badge, displaying her gun and screaming at employees
A friend of mine wrote a letter to the paper noting that in Europe you can cross national boundaries all day without showing papers
I was amazed to discover that. All the border crossings were unmanned when I made my European tour, but that was many years ago. I'm surprised it's still true.
Lieberman being vetted as possible McCain Veep
You can have him, McCain.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
Please, please, please, please.....
the guillotine was a supposed to be more humane way compared to hanging apparently
It is really easy to screw up a hanging. Very unpleasant to make someone dance up there for twenty minutes.
Any execution is barbaric, but a quick death is preferable to torturing them to death.
What is depressing is the kill ratio of civilians to soldiers but it is typical. Honestly, dude if you're going to war isn't the fucking object to fucking kill fucking soldiers.
When I lived in Europe ages ago, we used to wave at the border guard as we drove through.
Uncle Smokes: well, that's a different can of worms. The doses got standardized, the responses more predictable. So they became more valuable and safer to use as pharmaceuticals.
Oxycontin is a great drug, too, when used as prescribed. Problem is, you want to abuse it, all it takes is chewing the stuff, and abuse of any given opiate is going to happen.
Meanwhile, too many docs are reluctant to prescribe sufficient pain medication, lest they 'create an addiction', or, worse, show up in some Fed's computer as having, even possibly, done so.
What is depressing is the kill ratio of civilians to soldiers but it is typical. Honestly, dude if you're going to war isn't the fucking object to fucking kill fucking soldiers.
Le Jackel
If it was ever the objective, it went out the door with Sherman.
Officer
demanding free Starbucks coffee from five different stores, sometimes
flashing her badge, displaying her gun and screaming at employees
k&y, nyarlathotep
Sounds like she'd already had enough...
Minnesota Public Radio story dated today on ND oil "find."
http://minnesota.publicradio.org...08/04/10/ndoil/
the guillotine was a supposed to be more humane way compared to hanging apparently
Guillotine = instant painless death
Hanging = either near-instant neck breaking, making it an inferior guillotine, or a long slow painful and terrifying choke.
The thing that is inhumane is the fact of capital punishment itself. We would shoot everyone; the whole idea of having a special device is bizarre and creepy.
dirk: that's a damned shame; thinking of you
Makes me want to burn down Atlanta, that does.
Stanley Gibbons, the stamps and historical signatures dealer, has seen profits rise thanks to investors switching to "recession-proof" collectables as a hedge against soaring inflation.
Martin Bralsford, chairman, said: "The benefits of investing in collectables as an alternative asset class have never been clearer. Not only do rare stamps and historical signatures provide a means of diversification and a safe haven in difficult economic conditions but also provide a hedge against inflation."
He said because collecting was an "all-consuming passion", prices of rare stamps and signatures showed no correlation with stocks, property or other traditional investments. Collectables had risen the most during high inflation, he argued.
The world's oldest stamp dealership reported yesterday a 6% rise in profits before tax to Ł1.8m for the first half of the year. Sales of its rare stamps, autographs and memorabilia climbed 12% to Ł9.8m.
Papers with Henry VIII's signature went for Ł50,000 each, while Einstein's autograph now fetches Ł6,000, Audrey Hepburn's goes for Ł1,750 and even Madonna's has risen by 156% since 1997 to Ł895.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/
...estments.stamps
Oxycontin is a great drug, too, when used as prescribed. Problem is, you want to abuse it, all it takes is chewing the stuff, and abuse of any given opiate is going to happen.
Just had for the first time after my surgery. Miracle drug. It stops pain and makes you mellow. What does chewing have to do with it though? I just swallow it myself.
Honestly, dude if you're going to war isn't the fucking object to fucking kill fucking soldiers.
What's scarier than tha is the way the stupid militarized American police culture has adopted that idea, so that just like in Blade Runner, when you're a cop your refrain is fuck everyone without a badge.
If it was ever the objective, it went out the door with Sherman.
Oh, we can go further back than that. General Jackson and the Seminoles?
The guillotine did make is much easier to execute people. So guess what happened.
The inventor got his tete lopped off.
Makes me want to burn down Atlanta, that does.
Le Jackel
Do us a favor and hit the Repuke enclaves out in the suburbs first. You might find that the rest is actually tolerable without that crowd.
I will leave it to the professor, but chewing breaks down the time release and so you get a big jolt.
Prof. Wombat -
Refresh my memory, please? What are the symptoms of infection as a result of a puncture wound?
Honestly, dude if you're going to war isn't the fucking object to fucking kill fucking soldiers.
I believe that has mutated to "kill the fucking enemy," which does not necessarily mean just soldiers.
Martin Bralsford, chairman, said: "The benefits of investing in collectables as an alternative asset class have never been clearer. Not only do rare stamps and historical signatures provide a means of diversification and a safe haven in difficult economic conditions but also provide a hedge against inflation."
See also: Dutch tulip craze.
chewing breaks down the time release and so you get a big jolt.
Fuck that. Just cook it up and spike it then.
NBC nightly news
#1 person killed in Beijing
#2 The Edwenis
#3 Olympics blah blah
Hard to tell whom you enemy may be, when they all wear the same clothes as the civilan population.
I believe that has mutated to "kill the fucking enemy," which does not necessarily mean just soldiers.
Kill.All.Brown.People.
U.S. tells Russia to stop attacking Georgia. [W]hat kind of super power goes around invading small oil filled
countries without being provoked?at Fark:
GWPDA
you want to get excited if you start to see streaks going up the arm from the wound.
you will prolly have puss as a precursor, but that can go either way. it is the spreading of the infection up the toward the trunk that means you need to get help.
I will leave it to the professor, but chewing breaks down the time release and so you get a big jolt.
Yikes. I find it pretty strong just swallowing it. I can't imagine getting the whole effect at once. I kind of liked that it lingers. But I can see why people WANT to abuse it though. Hell of a good drug. Better than the old percodan, which used to be my favorite pain killer.
Libby: the whole point of oxycontin is its timed release mechanism. Keeps the level of pain medication relatively even over a long time. So you don't bottom out, hurt like hell and then take another pill, always playing catch-up ball with the pain, rather than heading it off. The total amount of drug you need goes down, rather than up, and pain control is much better.
But if you're looking to get high, you merely chew the stuff; you defeat the time-release, and get the whole dose at once, blowing your little mind. Highly addictive, of course.
Russia says: "Who's gonna Make Me?"
I find it strange that the US news keeps saying of the stabbing death in China, "there's no indication that they were singled out for being Americans."
Really? Like we're supposed to think Americans don't stick out like sore thumbs?
ABC's lead story:
Russia in Georgia
Expert: O'Hanlon, carrying water for Putin.
Russia says: "Who's gonna Make Me?"
Or as we used to say on the playground, "you and what army?"
We used to have one of those.
Thanks, ProfWombat.
I was merely joking about how progress in helping others can have such devastating consequences.
Indeed, I see the same problem with machine guns and guillotines. People abuse them.
But if you're looking to get high, you merely chew the stuff; you defeat the time-release, and get the whole dose at once, blowing your little mind. Highly addictive, of course.
I sure am thankful Dilaudid tastes like shit then...
you defeat the time-release, and get the whole dose at once, blowing your little mind.
Or, in the case of Rush, your teeny tiny, eensy weensy little mind.
Most hangmen knew about the existence of the vagus nerve, which if ruptured by a noose, led to instantaneous death. They could tie the noose in such a way as to make the victim's death either quick or excruciatingly slow.
Criminals about to be executed used to bribe the hangman to make it quick, if they had anything to give.
Anne Boleyn famously had a French swordsman brought in for her execution, because she did not trust the skill of a English ax executioner
OK, time for this elder's nap.
However, before I go, a request:
please see why I think a foreign exchange program involving the Pakistani parliament might do us a world of good.
O'Hanlon? How multi faceted he is. He can be wrong about so many countries.
GWPDA: 'calor, dolor, tumor, rubor'--local heat, pain, swelling, redness. A discharge out of it that isn't mostly water tinged just slightly with blood. As it progresses, you might see red streaks going centrally, carrying the bugs to the lymph nodes; that's bad business and requires antibiotics. And a systemic response, not always there early: fever, chills, like that.
Best seen early in the progression, because in the rare event of a really nasty bug, the work progresses in there before it gets obvious...
Bush is lecturing Russia on invading a sovereign country. Rich.
Anne Boleyn famously had a French swordsman brought in for her execution, because she did not trust the skill of a English ax executioner
And the EU thinks it fine to give an englishman's job to a frenchie!
Anne Boleyn famously had a French swordsman brought in for her execution, because she did not trust the skill of a English ax executioner
Moonbootica, relaxed
Case in point: Mary Queen of Scots' execution which was terribly botched.
Unk: not to mention Tasers...
Evening? It's the middle of the afternoon!
Okay, only on this side of the country 
Tasers are losing that "non-lethal" sparkle,
The thing that is inhumane is the fact of capital punishment itself. We would shoot everyone; the whole idea of having a special device is bizarre and creepy.
k&y, nyarlathotep
makes a heckuva hobby, though...
[A growing boy needs his lunch...]
{{{ProfWombat!!!}}}
It's a perfect day for the convertible, some fresh clams and corn on the cob, with blueberry pie for dessert. I can be ready in 5
sallyh! Hawaya?
Ate your share of fried clams, too...
Keeps the level of pain medication relatively even over a long time. So you don't bottom out, hurt like hell and then take another pill, always playing catch-up ball with the pain, rather than heading it off. The total amount of drug you need goes down, rather than up, and pain control is much better.
Thanks ProfWombat. I'm not down with getting high on pills anymore but I wondered why it was so even. I found I didn't need to take the whole 2 pill dose, probably because I metabolize slowly. I often don't do well with time release drugs.
Really? Like we're supposed to think Americans don't stick out like sore thumbs?
puppethead
What does "american" look like?
not to mention Tasers...
The whole Taser midset is what we were talking about. Absolutely everything else is subordinated to the physical safety of the officer. It's not supposed to be that way. It's more dangerous to be an electrician than to be a cop.
sallyh: found the farmers' market in falmouth yesterday. Had some sweet corn that you'd have for dessert. Awesome...
ProfWombat, all the more reason to go out again!
Bush is lecturing Russia on invading a sovereign country. Rich.
puppethead
And I'm sure even Putin is probably diplomatic enough not to flatly laugh in Bush's face when he spoouts that kind of hypocrisy.
Which is a pity. If more people had laughed and mocked him to his face years ago, it's possible he might have developed a little bit of self-awareness. Or else withdrawn from society. Either one would have been better for our country.
ABC news quotes EE on DKos but doesn' name the site, only refers to an online statement.
Jake Tapper is very concerned about the baby and the money, etc etc etc...
God, they're still going on and on about it...
wow they finally mentioned David Vitter
Oh, here comes a McCain reference, but he only "strayed," you know, like a lost puppy.
I believe that has mutated to "kill the fucking enemy," which does not necessarily mean just soldiers.
Diane C. Barking-Mad
That gene mutated a long time ago, unless you figure ol' Genghis Khan and his Horde were scrupulouss about determining the combatantr status of every screraming victim on the end of their swords...
ProfWombat, sweet corn is wonderful, but since blueberries are in season, it has to be blueberry pie
Oh, here comes a McCain reference, but he only "strayed," you know, like a lost puppy.
Culture of TrÜth
Yeah, a real hound.
Bush is a duck so lame as to forever redefine the physically challenged waterfowl. Not, to say the least, the person most likely to help Saakashvili and Pooty-poot reason together...
And I'm sure even Putin is probably diplomatic enough not to flatly laugh in Bush's face when he spoouts that kind of hypocrisy.
Maybe in public he's trying not to look too pissed, but I'd imagine in public he's already told Bush, "You gotta be shittin' me, jackoff!"
Best seen early in the progression, because in the rare event of a
really nasty bug, the work progresses in there before it gets obvious...
Urgent care for me, to-morrow at 8. Time for some antibiotics! (I've had a tetanus shot recently, and did clean the wound thoroughly, but still.... I think of my cousin, Dollison Sweat Love who died after being gored by one of his pet deer...)
What does "american" look like?
Ali, not Bob Dole
We tend to have an air of arrogance about us that is quite noticeable to most around the world.
the Romans sacked Carthago Nova in Spain to serve as a warning to the other towns and villages in the area
the inhabitants were massacred and the place looted
Contemporary case of botched hanging: Saddam's half brother.
Bush lecturing anybody on any fucking thing is a fucking laugh.
What a fucking dolt.
He is so fucking god damned stupid he can't even see the irony.
Hmm. Releasing a study that says all our energy problems are solved cheaply, right in the middle of a Presidential Campaign?
plantsman
If it could be drilled that cheaply, or was even worth drilling for, it would have been by now.
This is crap.
GWPDA: that's the side to err on. If your sugar isn't bouncing around, that's a good sign, by the way...
What does "american" look like?
They're the people in Europe with Canadian flag patches.
the Romans sacked Carthago Nova in Spain to serve as a warning to the other towns and villages in the area
the inhabitants were massacred and the place looted
Moonbootica, relaxed
Speaking of sacking and Rome, did you know that the treasures of Rome, taken by Alaric the Goth ca 400 AD are buried in Italy and no one has ever found them?
the Romans did the same in Corinth and later in Carthage proper
Cato the Elder infamously said that Carthage needed to be destroyed
What does "american" look like?
Ali, not Bob Dole
Porkpie hat, madras shorts, sandals with black socks, stub of a cigar sticking out the side of the mouth, constantly trying to buy things like the Louvre or an acre of the Great Wall for a vacation home. Big, Agnew-style wife in a floral print dress.
You know, that sort of thing.
RMJ, I agree, but many will fall for it because it's what they want desperately to believe.
Moon, did you investigate that job announcement I sent you?
Speaking of sacking and Rome, did you know that the treasures of Rome, taken by Alaric the Goth ca 400 AD are buried in Italy and no one has ever found them?
Adam Hominem
Clive Cussler is on the case.
Moon, did you investigate that job announcement I sent you?
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian | 08.09.08 - 6:52 pm | #
I had a look at it but English Heritage don't have the best repudiation, they are considered a bit of a 'shower'
After three days of disorder (or six days, according to some accounts), Alaric decided to march his troops out of the humbled city. His principal reason was apparently neither moral nor military but simply the lack of food supplies from Africa. This was a problem that could never be solved, he determined, until he marched southward and established forever the security of the empire’s harvests. When Alaric decided, his will was done. Out of the fallen city, fallen and humiliated but hardly destroyed, the Goths reassembled their wagons and their horses and began wheeling south. With them they took whatever treasure they could carry, probably including at least some of the spoils that the Emperor Titus had brought from the smoking ruins of Jerusalem. There was nothing now to stop the Visigoths on their march, nothing but the simple shape of the land and the sea.
Africa cannot be easily invaded by an army marching southward from Rome. Alaric and his myriad tribesmen marched as far as Reggio, just a few miles across the Strait of Messina from Sicily. The Sicilians had no defense except another appeal to the old gods. They cherished a sacred statue, according to the historian Olympiodorus, that contained holy water in one of its feet and perpetual flame in the other, and they appealed to this ancient deity to preserve them from invasion. Though Sicily is a natural bridge to Africa, Alaric may not have been planning to invade it at all. He ordered his forces in Reggio to build a vast fleet of sailing vessels to transport the entire Gothic nation across the Mediterranean. And it was done, and the fleet set out to sea, an motley assortment of rafts and dugouts, leather-skinned coracles and crude sailboats. The Goths had almost no experience with the sea, only a deep tribal sense that they had once sailed in three vessels from Scandza, their lost home in the north, and that their centuries of wanderings had brought them to this southernmost top of Italy.
...
ProfWombat, I confess to the ultimate in shallowness.
I love my new iPhone.
The whole Taser midset is what we were talking about. Absolutely everything else is subordinated to the physical safety of the officer. It's not supposed to be that way. It's more dangerous to be an electrician than to be a cop.
k&y, nyarlathotep
Logging is very hazardous, but nobody bleats about the "thin green line" providing us with building products and paper goods.
It's all about the PR.
The most diplomatic thing I think I could muster if Bush was lecturing me in person would be to spit in his fucking face.
GWPDA: that's the side to err on. If your sugar isn't bouncing around, that's a good sign, by the way...
Oooh, I should go check that! (You do mean my blood sugar, right? Not the stuff in the cannister next to the flour?)
We must not attach any importance, of course, to the primitive statue that guarded the Sicilians from invasion—a few years after the passing of Alaric, it was officially cast down and destroyed on orders from the imperial court at Ravenna—and it was undoubtedly a coincidence that, on the very day of the sailing of Alaric’s fleet, one of those sudden Mediterranean storms tuned the sky black and lashed the strait into a froth and utterly swamped the Goth’s invasion fleet. Alaric may have sensed some curse upon him, whether from Sicily or who could say where. Crying out against the fate that had brought him to the godforsaken tip of the earth, he suddenly fell ill with a mysterious fever. It lasted only a few days. Raging, tossing, sweating, shouting in a delirium, surrounded by lieutenants and counselors who could do nothing for him or for themselves, the King of the Visigoths died.
The Goths could not take Alaric back to his homeland for burial. They could only bury him where he lay, but they determined that this spot should never be violated. They ordered some of their Roman captives to dig a vast trench, near the town now known as Cosenza, to divert the Busento River from its course. In the emptied riverbed they dug a royal grave for King Alaric, and they buried him in it with his crown and his broadsword and his Gothic uniform of leather and fur, and a rich collection of the treasures he had brought from Rome, golden crosses, silver chalices, necklaces of rubies and emeralds, and who knows what further riches. The Goths then ordered their captives to resume their digging, to send the river back into its original course, to flood the grave of their fallen king. They slaughtered all of those captives so that no one should ever know where King Alaric and his riches lay buried. Then they reassembled all their forces and marched north again, past cursed Rome, out of cursed Italy,, until they finally settled themselves in southwestern France, making their capital in Toulouse. And no one, to this day, has ever discovered the spot that contains the grave of Alaric and the spoils of Rome.
Rome itself was sacked by the Gauls in 390/387 BC.
did you know that the treasures of Rome, taken by Alaric the Goth ca 400 AD are buried in Italy and no one has ever found them?
Now you tell me.
Otto Friedrich
The End of the World
Trivia question: What did the first coin-operated machine dispense?
Hint: It was a ripoff.
spoiler.
mind you the Roman empire continued in the East for quite sometime
Rome itself was sacked by the Gauls in 390/387 BC.
Moonbootica, relaxed
I think you mean the Goths, and it was more like 410 AD. OTOH Rome was sacked a fair amount. But the sacking that is considered the fall of Rome was Alaric's, ca 400. And he was a Goth.
What does "american" look like?
Tourist version, loud, rude and usually drunk and waving money around. The real travelers aren't so easily identified.
Trivia question: What did the first coin-operated machine dispense?
Simels spit?
RMJ, I agree, but many will fall for it because it's what they want desperately to believe.
plantsman
I doubt it. People aren't so much "falling for" offshore drilling as saying "Why not?" And answer comes there none. When it actually starts, expect people on the affected shorelines to scream bloody murder.
Huge difference between Presidential politics and political reality.
And, fortuitously, UrgentCare is right next door Baker's Nursery where I can pick up some lily bulbs for Our flory, and some nice new dirt.
plantsman! Did you ever seen Ornamental oregano'? I got some the other day and it's adorable - like the tiniest fuschias imaginable. I'm keeping it inside until October and will try and use it as a groundcover someplace...
NBC Nightly News is reporting on another major beef recall.
I think you mean the Goths, and it was more like 410 AD. OTOH Rome was sacked a fair amount. But the sacking that is considered the fall of Rome was Alaric's, ca 400. And he was a Goth.
Adam Hominem | 08.09.08 - 6:56 pm | #
buzz wrong
did you see BC there, as in Before Christ
the ancient Gauls did indeed sack Rome, read your history books!
Rome itself was sacked by the Gauls in 390/387 BC.
Moonbootica, relaxed
Big deal. Roman Gabriel was sacked literally dozens of times in the 1960's.
Clive Cussler is on the case.
Doc
And be sure when he writes about it his Dirk will get to meet him--Again!
RMJ: farming, offshore fishing, coal mining too.
Here's an interesting 2000 list of the most hazardous occupations in Virginia. Truck driving and construction labor led the list.
yes the Goths sacked Rome but that was in AD
but before Rome was a major playa it was sacked by the Gauls in its early history
Makes me want to sack Rome and date Sicilian women.
buzz wrong
did you see BC there, as in Before Christ
the ancient Gauls did indeed sack Rome, read your history books!
Moonbootica, relaxed
And that was long before the glory days of Rome.
Yes, "Kent Beauty" Oregano I am very familiar with and have grown several times. I love it.
Oh, yes, the link:
http://www.doli.virginia.gov/wha...nt/
mosthaz.html
Simels spit?
leibniz leibkins
You got the right century.
yes one upon a time Rome was just another small city state
the Gauls were in Northern Italy
"I especially remember an interesting list of tips devised by the US embassy in Madrid, and these tips were designed for Americans who found themselves in war-time airports. The idea was not to call ourselves to the attention of the numerous foreign terrorists who were presumably lurking all the way to terminal, so the embassy tips were a list of mostly don'ts. Things like: Don't wear a baseball cap; don't wear a sweat shirt with the name of an American university on it; don't wear Timberlands with no socks; don't chew gum; don't yell 'Ethel, our plane is leaving!' I mean it's weird when your entire culture can be summed up in eight giveaway characteristics."
-- Laurie Anderson, The Ugly One With The Jewels
NBC Nightly News is reporting on another major beef recall.
Worse yet, the beef was sold at Whole Foods. Notice a lot recalls are of organic goods lately? I think it's a plot by Monsanto to destroy the industry so they can sell their GM crap.
Rome of course payed the favor back and conquered Gaul under Caesar
Makes me want to sack Rome and date Sicilian women.
Le Jackel
Lemme tell you about how those Sicilian women got that way--
And that was long before the glory days of Rome.
Adam Hominem
Those Romans could throw that speedball by you, make you look like a fool.
Things like: Don't wear a baseball cap; don't wear a sweat shirt with the name of an American university on it; don't wear Timberlands with no socks; don't chew gum; don't yell 'Ethel, our plane is leaving!' I mean it's weird when your entire culture can be summed up in eight giveaway characteristics."
Except for that Ethel thing, it pretty much sums up what the young Italians were wearing when I was last in Italy (yesterday).
Worse yet, the beef was sold at Whole Foods. Notice a lot recalls are of organic goods lately? I think it's a plot by Monsanto to destroy the industry so they can sell their GM crap.
Libby, down but not out
I guess it's possible, but I don't think very likely.
BTW, WHole Foods is an aggressively non-Union operation. Very much after the model of WalMart. And the CEO is a complete jerk.
goodnight moonbats
Worse yet, the beef was sold at Whole Foods. Notice a lot recalls are of organic goods lately? I think it's a plot by Monsanto to destroy the industry so they can sell their GM crap.
Libby, down but not out
Contamination of the Whole Foods beef was traced to a processing plant in Nebraska.
So unless Monsanto sabotaged that plant....
sallyh: I may wind up with one of 'em, myself. I find I need the maps and directions, and the to-do list and aclendar and like that.
Having a bit of trouble acclimatizing myself to not having a trick memory anymore. No sympathy from my wife, who thinks I'm now merely human. But it's disconcerting to take wrong turns on routes that should be familiar.
Notice a lot recalls are of organic goods lately?
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess it might have something to do with an aversion to added preservatives.
Rome of course payed the favor back and conquered Gaul under Caesar
One is inhabited by the Belgae, the other by the Aquitanians, the third part by those who call themselves the Celts, but those we call Gauls.
What does "american" look like?
Tegucigalpa airport, mid 80's, very easy to spot the yanqui.
It was also very easy to spot them on Rhein boat tours during that period.
BTW, WHole Foods is an aggressively non-Union operation
I didn't know that but I'm not surprised. It always felt too corporate to me. I go to local independents as much as possible. We have a good little chain here, Weaver Street Market that treats its people well.
Yeah, but aside from the aqueducts, what have the Romans ever done for us?
BTW, WHole Foods is an aggressively non-Union operation. Very much after the model of WalMart. And the CEO is a complete jerk.
Adam Hominem
And their stock has fallen 70% in the past year, and sales are down, and they are worried about losing customers and no longer planning stores they had once envisioned.
And I wonder how long Wal-Mart can avoid paying higher prices for shipping cheap crap from China.
It call comes around, sooner or later....
Americans in Yurop look like Germans, except fat and not good looking.
No sympathy from my wife, who thinks I'm now merely human. But it's
disconcerting to take wrong turns on routes that should be familiar.
Much the same reaction I have when I'm informed, with shock and horror, that someone I know suddenly needs spectacles! Oh my goodness!
ProfWombat, if you get one, I promise you'll have more fun with it than a human should be allowed.
Europeans wear their Converse All-Stars without socks, Americans wear theirs with socks.
Filipino kid: You are American?
Tourist: No, I'm a Canadian. It's like an American, but without the gun.
-- Scott Thompson and Dave Foley, The Kids In The Hall
Bush lecturing anybody on any fucking thing is a fucking laugh.
It's hard to say what's most embarrassing (as opposed to offensive or appalling) about Bush, but when he lectures people, especially foreign gov'ts or populations, in that tone of paternalistic, barely restrained patience--'what people/the Iraqis/the Russian governmint gotta unnerstan is..."--, you do wonder how anyone could could be within arm's reach of him without slapping him back- and forehand until he cries.
It call comes around, sooner or later....
Rmj, Poor Man's Theologist
We can only hope.
RMJ: there was an article in the Times a week or two ago about a company that, faced with close to triple the shipping costs per container originating in China, decided to manufacture domestically instead...
Yeah, but aside from the aqueducts, what have the Romans ever done for us?
Well, the alphabet we're using right here and now, for one thing.
I, for one, hate Whole Paycheck.
Oh, and slanties. We owe that to the Romans, too.
Contamination of the Whole Foods beef was traced to a processing plant in Nebraska.
So unless Monsanto sabotaged that plant....
Rmj, Poor Man's Theologist
Well, I don't think the CEO is going to do it personally, but you don't it possible they could hire an inside operative to contaminate the goods? I mean the people who work in the processing plants aren't exactly living on easy street, half are illegal and vulnerable to blackmail. How hard would it be to allow some contamination to slip through?
RMJ: there was an article in the Times a week or two ago about a company that, faced with close to triple the shipping costs per container originating in China, decided to manufacture domestically instead...
ProfWombat
Seems inevitable to me. Kunstler's Long Emergency, in one form or another, is upon us.
All that farmland Houston has paved over for decades is suddenly looking better as farmland.....
Last night during the opening ceremony they had an interview with Kobe and Lebron and when they were finished the interviewer grabbed his crotch.
Yeah, but aside from the aqueducts, what have the Romans ever done for us?
First year latin you learn the words "farmer", "daughter". and "pretty". I think they brought us the traveling salesman joke.
Well, the alphabet we're using right here and now, for one thing.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
But their numbering system was teh suck.
Found the article:
The cost of shipping a 40-foot container from Shanghai to the United States has risen to $8,000, compared with $3,000 early in the decade, according to a recent study of transportation costs. Big container ships, the pack mules of the 21st-century economy, have shaved their top speed by nearly 20 percent to save on fuel costs, substantially slowing shipping times.
The study, published in May by the Canadian investment bank CIBC World Markets, calculates that the recent surge in shipping costs is on average the equivalent of a 9 percent tariff on trade. “The cost of moving goods, not the cost of tariffs, is the largest barrier to global trade today,” the report concluded, and as a result “has effectively offset all the trade liberalization efforts of the last three decades.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/
0...T1d9TAeCujVRm9Q
There'll be some changes made...
Libby, not likely. I honestly don't think that Monsanto, evil though its officers may be, wouldn't do it.
Oh, and slanties. We owe that to the Romans, too.
Hence, "italic."
It seems like the amount of involuntary self-crotch grabbing in society has skyrocketed.
But their numbering system was teh suck.
Yes, true.
Please do not tell the trolls where we got the numbering system from. It will cause their little pointy haids to assplode.
No, wait.
DO tell them!
Roman Roads were very durable and well made.
I'm not sure that the pudding really adds anything, but still....
Cinnamon Rolls, Cinnabon Style
1/2 cup warm water
2 pkg. active dry yeast
1 tablespoon granulated sugar
1 3 1/2 oz. pkg. instant vanilla pudding
2 cups milk
1/2 cup butter, melted
2 eggs, beaten
1 teaspoon salt
8 cups all-purpose flour
1/2 cup butter, melted
1+ cup sugar
1/4+ cup good quality cinnamon
In a small bowl, combine water, yeast, and sugar. Stir until dissolved. Set aside.
In large bowl, make pudding mix according to package directions. Add butter, eggs, and salt; mix well. Add the yeast mixture; blend. Gradually add flour and knead until smooth and elastic.
Place in very large greased bowl. Cover and let rise until double (about 1 hour). Punch down and let rise again (45 minutes).
On a lightly floured surface, roll out to a 1/4 inch thick rectangle, 21 inches in its smaller dimension. Note: you may wish to divide the dough in halves and roll out two rectangles. You may have to partially roll it out, then cover it with a damp cloth and let it rest before finishing. Spread 1/2 cup melted butter over
surface. Mix cinnamon and sugar together, and spread evenly over surface, leaving a 1-inch margin along one of the long edges. Roll up tightly, starting from a long side. Press together along the edge not covered with cinnamon sugar.
Slice at ~1 1/4 inch intervals. Place on greased baking pan, 2 inches apart. Cover and let rise until double again.
Bake at 350F for 15-20 minutes. Remove as soon as they turn golden. Frost warm rolls with cream cheese frosting.
Excuse me, WOULD do it.
I don't even drink anymore, so I'm out of good excuses
How hard would it be to allow some contamination to slip through?
Libby, down but not out
Christ, have you ever been in a packinghouse? The smell alone is enough to knock you down. And then there's the noise, and the rivers of blood.
The whole damned place is contaminated already; the trick is to keep it contained.
GWPDA: well, I use reading glasses now, too. The horror, the horror...
I, for one, hate Whole Paycheck.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Ah, well, I remember it when it was a little hippie store in Austin we affectionately called "Whole Floods" because it sat at a point that it flooded at least once every three years. They painted the high water marks on the outside wall.
And I still prefer to get my beef and chicken there, though too much of the stuff is too pricey and really not that good (their cheese, for example).
I do miss a lot of the stuff the original store used to carry.
Well, the alphabet we're using right here and now, for one thing.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
Of course, the alphabet goes without saying.
ProfWombat, no sympathy. I've been using them for close to a decade now
RMJ, I'll take TJ's any day of the week. Good prices, good stuff.
A-fucking-rabs, but every Indian mathematics professor would argue something else.
Man, some of the best cheeses I ever ate were bought in that store. Don't listen to Jeffers, people! He's lying to you!
RMJ, I'll take TJ's any day of the week. Good prices, good stuff.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Not an option down this way. In fact, down here, Whole Foods is the option.
So it goes.
Libby, not likely. I honestly don't think that Monsanto, evil though its officers may be, wouldn't do it.
I guess I'm the only conspiracy theorist here. I think anything is possible. They said Diebold wouldn't screw with the software either, and look at how that turned out. I assume you all saw that report about the CEO himself coming into GA in 02 and installing 'security patches' in a couple of key counties.
No, wait.
DO tell them!
Apprentice to Darth Holden
A lot of good shit came from the Arabs. They were probably a hell of a lot more enlightened than the Europeans of the age.
It took a disease called Christianity to rid Europe of the Moors.
Let's see. Romans gave us the romance languages: French, Italian, Spanish.
English came from the Goths.
Moon, I don't know what a 'shower' iz, in ur sense.
It took a disease called Christianity to rid Europe of the Moors.
Adam Hominem
And Islam rid the world of Arab contributions to math and science.
Several top lieutenants of al Gebra were spotted at a nearby university.
English came from the Goths.
Angles and Saxons.
The Normans.
The Greeks.
Hell, just about everywhere.
English is the greatest of all the languages because it incorporates so many of them. Let the Mexicans bring some more of their idioms in and then let that fucking chatter of theirs obsolesce into the ether.
Oh please, no lectures on the fundamentality of the concept of zero.
puppethead,
My daughter wants a black Apple laptop for her birthday. (The betrayal!) This has been a Windows house up to now. Am I going to have to make changes to my wireless router, or other things? Is she going to be able to use the router in conjunction with Wintel stuff? I assume I am going to need some kind of Apple box to act as a print server for her?
And so on.
I used to think of Christianity as a disease. And then I went to college.
Frist!
.
Hell, just about everywhere.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
It's considered a Germanic language (I was being funny about the Goths). But I do think English is the tramp of languages. We'll adopt anything.
Libby, we have evidence Diebold tampered with the machines.
We don't have any evidence that Monsanto tampered with the meat. If evidence is produced, I'd change my opinion.
Yeah, but aside from the aqueducts, what have the Romans ever done for us?
melior
ORGIES!
English is the greatest of all the languages because it incorporates so many of them. Let the Mexicans bring some more of their idioms in and then let that fucking chatter of theirs obsolesce into the ether.
Toby Petzold
Racism of one sort or another is part of your very soul, isn't it.
What a waste of $1.98 worth of valuable minerals you are.
Not to mention the 2 gallons or so of water, of course.
My daughter wants a black Apple laptop for her birthday.
No to all of your questions. The Mac will just work with everything you already have. Seriously. Mac OS X is fluent in Windows networking protocols.
Oh please, no lectures on the fundamentality of the concept of zero.
I think it's rather entertaining myself, but being a biostatistician qualifies me as utterly twisted
The Romans taught us that having lead all over the place was not problem...hey! Let's make George Bush's dog ambassador to Iran!
Everyone knows the treasures of Rome were melted down and hidden in the pope's dungeons.
SPEAKING OF RAVENNA
Italy Holds Five on Terror Charge
BBC News, Rome
Five North Africans have been arrested in Italy on charges of conspiring to commit acts of international terrorism.
Police in Bologna say they arrested four Tunisians and a Moroccan and are seeking a sixth man.
They are investigating an alleged international terrorist ring, which they say recruited suicide bombers for Iraq and Afghanistan.
Police raided houses and apartments in Bologna, Ravenna on Italy's Adriatic coast, and Como near Milan.
♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ Sallyh! ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
.
Thanks, puppethead.
Toby, I'm a Jew.
Don't tell me about the benny's of Christianity, ok?
P.S. All religions suck. Judaism certainly sucks. But it's a fact that Christians have been pissing on us for nearly 2000 years.
Uncle Smokes, first thing Barney would say is, you do understand that my owner is a delusional fuckwad, don't you?
{{{Jeffraham!!!}}}
Schoolhouse Rock: My hero, zero.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m...h?
v=m8_csLwnc20
*grunt* Them Spanyards need tuh talk English!
Sure, sure, the Germans were responsible for the Holocaust, but they were also responsible for the earlier atrocity of introducing polka music to Mexicans in the Rio Grande Valley from the 1850s on.
Hey, wasn't 34 years ago today when Nixon stepped down?
How old are you, boy?
Is it wrong to eat chocolate mint fondue sauce directly from the jar?
Everyone knows the treasures of Rome were melted down and hidden in the pope's dungeons.
melior
Somewhere down there too is the chair with a hole in the seat, that all Popes, after the embarrasment of Joan, had to sit in so a Cardinal could feel their balls.
at convention, thousands of Obamagasmics, Obamaholics, Obamabeciles plan to greet their Messiah Hussein Obama-Flator with the new "AssHoles For Obama-Flator" salute
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/wash...ama-
salute.html
you g-g-g-g-go, AssHoles For Ob-b-b-b-bama-F-F-F-F-Flator!
Mind you, a scrum by the proponents of who truly invented the concept of zero would be really entertaining.
Hey, wasn't 34 years ago today when Nixon stepped down?
Terry C
I was wondering why BookTV was rerunning an interview with the very odd Monica Crowley.
Excuse me: "Dr Monica Crowley"
All religions suck. Judaism certainly sucks. But it's a fact that Christians have been pissing on us for nearly 2000 years.
Adam Hominem
I had eight years of Catholic schools.
The reason I am an agnostic today.
I'm just saying I think it's possible, not a proven fact. Here's the link to the Diebold story in case anyone missed it.
Guess I'm just naturally suspicious of mega-corps, especially Monsanto. They're making a fortune on the drug war with big fat contracts for herbicides, using versions that are illegal here, that they dump indiscriminately on Colombian farmers.
Buckeye, absolutely not.
this has been another edition...
Don't tell me about the benny's of Christianity, ok?
I think 'roofies of Christianity' would be a more appropriate term.
Is it wrong to eat chocolate mint fondue sauce directly from the jar?
Yes. You should heat it a little bit, first.
"Dr Monica Crowley"
BlueinColorado
She's still in mourning over it, no doubt.
Richard Milhous Nixon is one of my heroes.
you g-g-g-g-go, AssHoles For Ob-b-b-b-bama-F-F-F-F-Flator!
Lubyanka
He's so scared he's trembling.
You should be scared, loser.
Uncle Smokes, first thing Barney would say is, you do understand that my owner is a delusional fuckwad, don't you?
Barney is the only member of that administration I admire.
I am not so sure about that latecomer Mrs. Beezley
Excuse me: "Dr Monica Crowley"
BlueinColorado
Any relation to Aleister, by any chance?
Let the Mexicans bring some more of their idioms in and then let that fucking chatter of theirs obsolesce into the ether.
You must be one lonely individual.
Un persona solomente, si.
Schoolhouse Rock: My hero, zero.
One of my favs. I also really like the 5, 10, 15, 20.... Catchy tune.
He's so scared he's trembling.
You should be scared, loser.
Adam Hominem
Or just aympathetic Parkinson's after his madonna McStain.
I think 'roofies of Christianity' would be a more appropriate term.
melior
And by the way, I don't mean to offend anyone but perhaps Toby. Who comes here only to offend us.
Believe whatever you want. I happen to be an atheist, but not a prosleytizing one.
If Nixon had any balls he'd have done a R. Bud on TV that night.
Oooh, Jeopardy just asked a Bernie Mac question.
He's so scared he's trembling.
You should be scared, loser.
Adam Hominem
If he promises to commit seppaku on Election Night, I will chip in to purchase the method.
One of my favs. I also really like the 5, 10, 15, 20.... Catchy tune.
Libby, down but not out
I remember digging "Lolly Lolly get yer adverbs here" too.
If he promises to commit seppaku on Election Night, I will chip in to purchase the method.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08
I already have both swords. Look no further.
what do you dip in chocolate mint fondue? Shortbread? Madeleines? ladyfingers? Your fingers?
If Nixon had any balls he'd have done a R. Bud on TV that night.
Supreme Commander Thor |
Dwyer?
Jeezus, that was a topic of conversation in PA for quite some time.
I was too old for Schoolhouse Rock, but Mlle enjoyed "Conjunction Junction."
Toby and Luby sound like they must have gotten somebody to buy them an 8-pack of Miller Ponies this evening, which they hid in their Mom's basement and shared.
By the time they finish all 8 they'll be down to nothing but incoherent cursing and racial slurs.
I'm an atheist, too, but it sounds like sneering ingratitude to not understand that the genius of Western Civilization begins with Judeo-Christianity.
Your fingers?
BlueinColorado
Your friend's naughty bits?
I remember digging "Lolly Lolly get yer adverbs here" too.
melior
Another great one. The one about how a bill becomes a law is really good too. And Conjunction Junction. I loved that show.
I'm an atheist, too, but it sounds like sneering ingratitude to not understand that the genius of Western Civilization begins with Judeo-Christianity.
Oh so stupid it makes Forrest Gump look like Einstein.
<a href="https://www.lubys.com/">Luby's!</a>
Somewhere down there too is the chair with a hole in the seat, that all Popes, after the embarrasment of Joan, had to sit in so a Cardinal could feel their balls.
Adam Hominem
Yeah....that's what they'd like everyone to believe.
Naughty No Good Mean Old Number Nine.
Dude, you're getting all pointy.
I'm an atheist, too, but it sounds like sneering ingratitude to not understand that the genius of Western Civilization begins with Judeo-Christianity.
Toby Petzold |
Yeah, Plato, Aristotle, Socrates, Juvenal, Seneca, Marcus Aurelius, Galen....
Toby fails to understand that western civilization emerged long before Judaism and Christianity. Dumbfuck.
Still, I have always loved Nietzsche's observation that Christianity was the Jews' revenge on Rome.
I was too old for Schoolhouse Rock, but Mlle enjoyed "Conjunction Junction."
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
I watched it with my daughter. Still loved it though.
45th day of 100+ degree weather in the Austin area this year. (not in a row)
I'm an atheist, too, but it sounds like sneering ingratitude to not understand that the genius of Western Civilization begins with Judeo-Christianity.
Toby Petzold
I think Gandhi had the best answer to that.
"Western Civilization sounds like a good idea."
"premature inauguration":
the bizarre, buffoonish megalomania of Dimocrat presidential candidates such as Barack Hussein Obama, John F. Kerry, Albert Gore, Jr., Michael Dukakis, Walter Mobdale, George McGovern, Hubert Humphrey, Adlai Stevenson, etc.
What, the cardinals feel the pope's balls? Well, hot damn.
*sigh*
No one ever gives props to Zoroaster.
the genius of Western Civilization begins with Judeo-Christianity.
And to think there are people who don't believe in the miracle of X-mas!
Toby fails to understand that western civilization emerged long before Judaism and Christianity. Dumbfuck.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
That's not what Faux Spews and Rush say.
And I dug up the YouTubes for my grandtyke. He loves them too. His favorites are zero and the 5's.
Is it wrong to eat chocolate mint fondue sauce directly from the jar?
Yes. You should heat it a little bit, first.
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian | 08.09.08 - 7:22 pm
Done.
I think the strawberries are enjoying their dip/sauce.
the genius of Western Civilization begins with Judeo-Christianity.
Some major league stoopid there, folks.
Hey my niece knows the preamble to Constitution thanks to the DVD set of ALL the schoolhouse rock songs i bought her - but I think her faves are 'A Noun is a Person Place or Thing' and the one about Suffrage.
Me I like "Shot Heard 'round the World" and "Just a Bill"
Naughty No Good Mean Old Number Nine.
Doc
Number nine....number nine......
I think the strawberries are enjoying their dip/sauce.
Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
While we sit in judgment of China's actions in Tiananmen Square which we all agree are evil and deserving of the worst condemnation let us remember the things our own government has done in our own name very recently - torture, renderings, invading Iraq and killing hundreds of thousands of people.
China needs to own up to what they did but so do we.
Judaism goes back a long way, see.
Me I like "Shot Heard 'round the World" and "Just a Bill"
Culture of TrÜth
Interjection, for excitement or emotion.
Generally set apart from a sentence
by an exclamation point
Or by a comma
when the feeling's not as strong
Uncle Smokes, are you saying we don't have enough deities on our threads?
And to think there are people who don't believe in the miracle of X-mas!
melior
I love it. Thanks.
Naughty No Good Mean Old Number Nine.
Doc
Number nine....number nine......
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08
Turn me on, dead man. Turn me on, dead man.
the genius of Western Civilization begins with Judeo-Christianity
There was never any such thing as "Judeo-Christianity." It is like saying "Witchcraft-Puritanism."
The genius of Western Civilization began with sluts, faggots and medicinally impossible quantites of wine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3...h?
v=3dPF0SGh_PQ
My favorite.
For all those women who are not allowed register.
Breck Girl Edwards--just another Bubba-esque liar and adulterer..
but his hair is perfect.
or the celebration of domestic imperialism that was Elbow room!
I'm an atheist, too, but it sounds like sneering ingratitude to not understand that the genius of Western Civilization begins with genocide
fyt.
While we sit in judgment of China's actions in Tiananmen Square which we all agree are evil and deserving of the worst condemnation let us remember the things our own government has done in our own name very recently - torture, renderings, invading Iraq and killing hundreds of thousands of people.
Gomez
Damn. If there was just one sentence I could put on every media outlet in the country every day until Joe Sixpack GETS IT, that might be it.
China needs to own up to what they did but so do we.
Gomez
Suddenly everyone from sports radio jocks to wingnuts are on their high horse about China from human rights to pollution. Not that I disagree, but criminy, torture, civil rights, Al Gore - excuse me??!?!
If he promises to commit seppaku on Election Night, I will chip in to purchase the method.
Think I'll wait for the free show at the Hague...
Me I like "Shot Heard 'round the World" and "Just a Bill"
I always liked "I'm an Amendment-to-Be", personally...
Seppuku is extraordinarily difficult. Consider that is would normally be quickly followed with a partial decapitation out of mercy.
"the genius of Western Civilization begins with Judeo-Christianity" - Toby Petzold
"I don't think anything predated Christians." - Sherry Shepherd
None of us got told about the genocides committed here in America from 1492 on until very recently.
So lets not talk about how they don't speak about Tiananmen Square. We do the same thing.
Yep, its all horrible and ain't that tragical.
the genius of dogburner is his fucktardo-shitwhistleness.
Okay lovely people. Thanks for cheering me up. I think I should go eat something. All I've had in two days is a cheese sandwich and three beers.
China needs to own up to what they did but so do we.
Gomez
*cough* Rosewood *cough*
*cough* Osceola *cough*
"I don't think anything predated Christians." - Sherry Shepherd
Doc
Oh, THAT idiot.
Barbara Walters needs to be "saved."
Because Jewish folks are inferior to her fundie self, don't cha know?
NTodd! How are things at Chateau de Bliss?
Hey my niece knows the preamble to Constitution thanks to the DVD set of ALL the schoolhouse rock songs i bought her - but I think her faves are 'A Noun is a Person Place or Thing' and the one about Suffrage.
Me I like "Shot Heard 'round the World" and "Just a Bill"
Culture of TrÜth | Homepage | 08.09.08 - 7:33 pm |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m...h?v=mEJL2Uuv-
oQ
Seppuku is extraordinarily difficult. Consider that is would normally be quickly followed with a partial decapitation out of mercy.
k&y, nyarlathotep |
Well, rightards do everything half-assed anyway.
I'm an atheist, too, but it sounds like sneering ingratitude to not
understand that the genius of Western Civilization begins with genocide
Genocide had no foundational role in the origins of any aspect or the whole of Western Civilization. There is a peculiar obsession with genocide among ancient Levatine tribes, a hyper-tribalism which began with the total destruction of even booty and farm animals, and middled out in the insane and pointless hatred of Samaritans or other indistinguishable neighbors, but this was hardly something that began them or contributed to their acheivements. Genocide did not become important until Europe left Europe.
TBogg nails it:
Since John Edwards committed adultery I would encourage both Democrats and Republicans to refrain from voting for him for president. Additionally this should also apply to John McCain who fooled around on his wife after she was crippled in an accident and then married a beer heiress who could finance his political future. And since Bob Barr also had an affair, that means that we're left with that black guy.
I welcome the support of Katherine Jean Lopez, Rod Dreher, Hugh Hewitt, The Anchoress, Mitt Romney, Dr. James Dobson, Michael Medved and sundry and assorted other moral paragons and pecksniffs, as we combat the forces of extramarital nookieism.
BTW. Al Gore is fat.
I'm an atheist, too, but it sounds like sneering ingratitude to not understand that the genius of Western Civilization begins with Judeo-Christianity.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 08.09.08 - 7:28 pm | #
where to begin?
BTW. Al Gore is fat.
Does your girlfriend know about this?
n the meantime, McCain said he would concentrate on getting more sleep when he can.
"If I put in three or four 18-hour, 20-hour days in a row, I'm not sharp. It's just a fact," the Republican senator from Arizona said. "I'm more sharp if I get a little rest."
McCain said he feels best sleeping until 7:30 or 8 a.m., as opposed to his usual morning drill of rising at 5:30 or 6 a.m.
"It seems to help me to get up a little later in the morning," he said, joking, "Sorry to bother with that intimate detail."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080...on_el_pr/
mccain
He can get all the sleep he wants after Nov 5.
Genocide did not become important until Europe left Europe.
k&y, nyarlathotep
Interesting insight. Perhaps the Other had to be really Other to be slaughtered wholesale.
where to begin?
fokow
Don't waste your time and energy.
That one is too stupid to live.
It's really telling of how failed our policies are, how destructive
occupation is to the people.I met a
veteran of the Afghanistan war, and he told me about one experience
where he actually gave the people who were about to [conduct an] air
strike in Afghanistan the wrong coordinates because the metal in the
vehicle next to him interfered with his [Global Positioning System]. He
said they bombed a village of Afghan civilians, and then they went to
the village and told them, "We're sorry the Taliban did this to you."
where to begin?
I know where to end:
Comment by Toby Petzold blocked.
'Nuff said!
And since Bob Barr also had an affair, that means that we're left with that black guy.
Let us wait on Obama. He's new. Maybe he did something. Things come bubbling to the surface. Look at Edwards. Ixnay on the McCainay affairay.
I ♥ TBogg.
BTW. Al Gore is fat.
Does your girlfriend know about this?
dave™© | Homepage | 08.09.08 - 7:45 pm | #
Well Dude, that's why they invented doggie position.
Does your girlfriend know about this?
dave™©
Don't tell her he's fat.
Agreed - TBogg rulez. And Gomez too, but we knew that.
"We're sorry the Taliban did this to you."
k&y, nyarlathotep
That kind of shit is inevitable when you are dropping large explosive things on people from miles up.
To bad for them.
Uncle Smokes, are you saying we don't have enough deities on our threads?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Well...I mention Zoroaster merely because someone from the 5th century BCE seeing some of our "Good Light triumphing over Evil Dark at the glorious End Times when God makes everything right again" theology and feel right at home.
Then again, if you want instead to talk shelf life, Hinduism has got all the other belief systems beat...
Arf! yipeyipeyipeyipe!!!
fokowi: ignoring it's good enough for me...
Gomez: an honest accounting of the Bush years--a great deal to hope for--and, of course, much else of American history, really wouldn't allow for a shred of American exceptionalism to persist...
where to begin?
fokowi
but not cutting and pasting the trolls?
He can get all the sleep he wants after Nov 5.
A. Morphous, bias ply
There is a peculiar obsession with genocide among ancient Levatine tribes
Do tell.
You know, the thing abt the Jews is that they've been around so long that there must be some reason for it.
You know: considering all the goodwill and everything.
Oy.
Perhaps the Other had to be really Other to be slaughtered wholesale.
Well if you approached slavery from just a pedantic understanding of Europeans it wouldn't make sense. Protestants in that era were the most staunchly anti-slavery people on Earth, conciously saw themselves as that and in some ways would count by our lights as that. But by inventing the modern idea of racism, by inculcating ideas about racially universal limitations, they were able to bypass their existing morality which had grown out of bitter fighting with the slavery-crazy Catholics (Yes Catholics technically were against Roman slavery, but by the time we're talking about come onnnn, consider the Injuns cleansed and educated through Catholic slavery).
really wouldn't allow for a shred of American exceptionalism to persist...
It died in your heart, loser. Not in mine. Not in those of the majority of Americans. Only with the fringe like you.
The Levantine Tribes, who I suppose eventually gave us the dubious gift of One God, were nasty motherfuckers in a cold hard world. And their God followed suit.
Granted.
Let the good times roll!
"The family of John Edwards' former mistress, Rielle Hunter, is challenging the former senator to take a DNA paternity test after his claim that he did not father Hunter's 6-months-old child.
In the first reaction from Hunter's family, her younger sister Melissa told ABC News that Edwards should immediately follow through on his pledge to take a paternity test.
"I would challenge him to do so," the sister said.
"Somebody must stand up and defend my sister," she said. "I wish that those involved would refrain from bad-mouthing my sister."
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/st...=5546813&
page=1
Dimocrats: Personal Betrayal R Us!
It died in your heart, loser. Not in mine. Not in those of the majority of Americans. Only with the fringe like you.
Toby Petzold
Just so you know, dog burner, that "loser" has an MD after his name. Among other things.
You?
In other words Enlightenment and pre-Enlightment Protestants were against the enslavement of men, so they had to define Africans out of Man to enslave them.
It was nice to see the Chinese have adopted our "free speech zone".
They're becoming more like us every day.
Google News says Russia on outskirts of Savannah.
The ex-mistress of former presidential candidate John Edwards said Saturday she will not participate in DNA testing to establish the paternity of her daughter.
Rielle Hunter's lawyer, Robert Gordon, says his client is a private individual who wishes to maintain the privacy of herself and her daughter.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/...rds-
Hunter.html
Seeing what we're doing to the Earth, along with our behavior in the Cradle of Civilization, I'd say the Western Civilization has a genius for matricide.
[Freud's ghost just dumped ashes on my keyboard.]
Then where does the genius of Western Civilization begin, fokowi?
Perhaps the Other had to be really Other to be slaughtered wholesale.
Now if someone would have just explained to the Plains Indians that we had no idea those blankets spread smallpox, all would have been forgiven.
Anyone who doesn't see the world like Toby Fuck does is "fringe."
Like I said, he must be one lonely individual.
He and dickyanka should hook up.
Well if you approached slavery from just a pedantic understanding of Europeans it wouldn't make sense.
k&y, nyarlathotep
Dude. Dudes?
Slavery wasn't about belief. Slavery was about bling, and making other people give you their bling.
Belief fell by the wayside rather quickly.
Wombat being a doctor means what now? He doesn't believe in American exceptionalism? Por que?
I remember when DNA more or less proved that Thos Jefferson was the father of Sally Hemmings' children, Bill Bennett piously intoned that this was a stain on a great man's record. The fact that Jefferson participated in and profited from race-based slavery he could write off as "everybody did it". The fact that Jefferson had sex is an unforgivable stain.
Kinda like the wingnuts are more interested in and offended by the possible conceptoin of a child than the million or more Iraqis (and Americans and Brits and Polish.....) who have been killed for no reason.
These mouthbreathers do NOT speak for the majority of Americans.
How long will it take for them to come to terms with that fact?
I ♥ TBogg.
And St. Satchmo. and teh devil Beckham, Fenway, Mrs. TBogg and L&TCasey.
And say! My blood sugar iz a big 83! Woooooohoooooo, I'm not dying from anything today!
Must go throw pink pig to Arthur. He feels sad that he inadvertently pierced my outer covering.
American Exceptionalism: Being exceptionally good at killing other people and then acting like you didn't.
The ex-mistress of former presidential candidate John Edwards said Saturday she will not participate in DNA testing to establish the paternity of her daughter.
ProfWombat
I am very much my daughter's father. I did not father her, however.
It's an emotional point, not a legal one, but we'd see a better world if we understood what words really meant.
Adam Hominem
We say it that way because there was a long time when they were indistinguishable. And they all hated eachother's fucking guts, but nobody else could tell who they were. A lot of surviving Jewish customs have no meaning other than to distinguish one from a now long extinct cousin, such as separation of milk and meat; one ancient neighbor would boil baby goats in goat milk. This perhaps had something to do with mother issues. By not being allowed to do this, all that's really happening is they're saying, remember, you're us, you're not these other people.
Prime Minister Vladimir V. Putin of Russia, eclipsing the authority of President Dmitri A. Medvedev, left the Olympics in China and arrived Saturday evening in Vladikavkaz, a city in southern Russia just over the border that is a military staging area. State-controlled news broadcasts showed Mr. Putin meeting generals, suggesting that he was in charge of the operations on Georgian soil.
Well I guess that answers that question.
BlueinColorado
Bill Bennett was just pissed off because he didn't have a bet on the results.
GWPDA: that's nice, dear; means you're not infected badly, if at all. usually a diabetic will slip out of control if inflamed/infected. Sleep tight, and go see sombody in the morning...
Wombat being a doctor means what now? He doesn't believe in American exceptionalism? Por que?
Toby Petzold
You trying to walk away from calling him a loser?
Tu madre esta un puta.
sallyh - life is good, but we're not at chez bliss right now. still in me w/ ericka's bff and beau, enjoying a lovely meal. they're all troubleshooting a blackberry prob fp has (i'm odd man out w a moto q), so i'm surfing and drinking!
And St. Satchmo. and teh devil Beckham, Fenway, Mrs. TBogg and L&TCasey.
Did you read The Tale of Fenway On The Roof?
Millions of Native Americans.
Millions of Africans.
Millions of Vietnamese.
Now Muslims.
See a pattern?
You know the thing about the republican party is that they do everything within their power to destroy the government to prove that the government doesn't work.
So we have mass deregulation and bingo...corruption, scandal, bailouts, and crisis on Wallstreet, with banks and mortgage companies, the FDA which is short staffed and run like a company to benefit the corporations allows poisoned food, candy, toys, blood thinner, etc, etc...
It's kind of ironic that republican Ron Paul says our country has been going in the wrong direction for the past 35 years when his own party has held the presidency for 23 of those 35 years.
who's the father?
the Breck Girl needs to take a paternity test to put this matter to rest.
Bubba submitted DNA to match the blue dress stain.
The Breck Girl needs to muster up!
sheets
Adam: hell, yeah, and if we kept our priorities even the slightest bit straighter...
See a pattern?
Gomez
They all look and dress funny?
You're saying that Wombat being a medical doctor means he's above being called a loser in a political chat room? Huh?
Tu madre esta un puta.
Adam Hominem
Morphine was to help opium addicts...heroin to help morphine addicts...then comes methadone...it's such fun helping people.
Uncle Smokes | Homepage | 08.09.08 - 6:27 pm |
ive read that methadone is supposed to relieve the withdrawal without producing pleasure. i have my doubts.
You know the thing about the republican party is that they do everything within their power to destroy the government to prove that government doesn't work.
So we have mass deregulation and bingo...corruption, scandal, bailouts, and crisis on Wallstreet, with banks and mortgage companies, the FDA which is short staffed and run like a company to benefit the corporations allows poisoned food, candy, toys, blood thinner, etc, etc...
It's kind of ironic that republican Ron Paul says our country has been going in the wrong direction for the past 35 years when his own party has held the presidency for 23 of those 35 years.
Wombat an MD? like Mengele?
Impressive!
We say it that way because there was a long time when they were indistinguishable.
k&y, nyarlathotep
Not really. Christianity was basically Judaism 2.0. It dropped some of the most problematic rules, (like your mom had to be in or you couldn't be a real member, and that you had to mutilate your penis). This obviously made it more attractive to the newbies.
But some of the most vicious wars were between early Christians and Jews.
Lubyanka...you f**king hairy ape! Go shave your fat, hairy body and stop showing young girls your little banana you sick f**k!
you g-g-g-g-go, AssHoles For Ob-b-b-b-bama-F-F-F-F-Flator!
Lubyanka | 08.09.08 - 7:21 pm | #
Stuttering worked for The Who and BTO, but you just look like an ass.
Life is great when you drinking liberally, LOL
sorry but in an act of party unity heres the video of Hillary campainging for obama in Nevada
Video: Hillary Campaigns For Obama in Nevada
McCain Camp: Obama "Bizarrely In Sync With Moscow"
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