I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Math is hard.
Presidentin' is even harder.
Give me a lever, and I can move the world.
Archimedes (or Kos)
OT: The Iraqi president has condemned Syria's support for a possible Turkish military incursion into northern Iraq to attack Kurdish based fighters.
Jalal Talabani told the pan-Arab Asharq al-Awsat newspaper that recent remarks by Bashad al-Assad, the Syrian president, backing military action were "dangerous".
On Saturday, the Iraqi parliament debated a motion condemning Turkey for threatening the cross-border raid.
The MPs met after Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Turkey's prime minister, said Nuri al-Maliki, his Iraqi counterpart, had proposed joint action against the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK).
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/
...875071EA891.htm
Give me a lever, and I can move the world.
Give me a lover and I can make the earth move.
A rational approach to Political Islam.
im n ur marketz
callin ur marjinz
Wasn't there once a law against borrowing money in order to invest in the stock market?
Does anyone desire tea? Here 'tis.
And in more pressing news, Rowling says Dumbledore is gay.
http://www.time.com/time/magazin...65876-
4,00.html
One New Yorker came up with another kind of answer, or perhaps just an epitaph. It was a bedraggled parrot that a policeman found in Manhattan in November of 1929. "More margin!" the bird squawked, in echo of some desperate stockbroker's greedy injunction to the bird's vanished master in that already vanished era. "More margin!"
DAMASCUS, Syria: Their money gone, Iman Faleh and her family packed their belongings for Baghdad — a journey they said was like a trip to "death row."
The religiously mixed family — Iman is a Sunni but the others are Shiites — fled their home in a mostly Shiite part of east Baghdad in July and took refuge in Syria, joining an estimated 1.5 million other Iraqis here.
But in early fall, they became part of a growing wave of Iraqis leaving Syria for home — not because they are confident of Iraq's future, but because they ran out of money.
Others are returning because Syria has made it more difficult to stay — most Iraqis cannot work legally in Syria and survive on savings or handouts from relatives.
"Going back to Baghdad means going to 'death row,'" said Iman's 27-year-old son Zaid as he hauled luggage from the family's $1,200-a-month apartment in Damascus. "But we have no money left that could allow us to go on living here."
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m3737...&hd=&size=1&
l=e
Congress will move heaven and earth to protect the extra special tax breaks for hedge fund managers, margin traders, and other people who earn a blue collar living gambling with other people's money.
And in more depressing news, Jennifer Granholm endorses Hillary Clinton.
Wasn't there once a law against borrowing money in order to invest in the stock market?
Moe Szyslak, all wet
Yes, I think they made it after that little unpleasantness back in 1929.....
AIIGHT. Time to brave the wind and rain. bbl.
(MENAFN - Arab News) HELSINKI, 17 October 2007 - The United States is planning to stay in Iraq by building as many as 14 "permanent" bases, regardless of whether orders come from current or future US administrations to bring US troops back home. "As far I am informed, they are planning to set up permanent bases. Not only one, two, three, four, but maybe 14," Finnish MP Jaakko Laakso told a group of Saudi journalists, which included Arab News, who visited the Finnish Parliament recently in Helsinki. "It means there will be no withdrawal on a permanent basis."
The MP, who is a member of the Left Alliance, pointed out that the bases were not the bases the US government plans to build between the Iraq and Syria borders, but were permanent bases located in the heartland of the country. "There is no difference between Republicans and Democrats regarding these permanent bases," Laakso added.
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m3736...&hd=&size=1&
l=e
Yea! Our Saturday econ lesson!
Give me a lever, and I can move the world.
Give me a lover and I can make the earth move.
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in | 10.20.07 - 11:30 am | #
Nice.
From downstairs:
I've wondered for years why they called it "immaculate conception" and the only thing I was ever able to come up with was:
no peter tracks on the sheets.
Jennifer
Maybe, but what are those stains on the Shroud of Turin, anyway?
Yahoo, Albus is gay and Aberforth's a goat fucker, what's next?
Archimedes documented cool geographic shapes when he wasn't displacing water in bathtubs, ya know!
Maybe, but what are those stains on the Shroud of Turin, anyway?
Jesus juice.
Much more background on this
http://www.wsws.org/articles/200.../bank-
o18.shtml
Since they are not subject to the same regulations that apply to their parent banks, the SIVs (Structured Investment Vehicles) are not required to maintain the same level of capital reserves. They often issue commercial paper for 90 percent or more of the value of their assets. Their profits depend on their ability to continually issue new commercial paper to mutual fund money markets and other big investors to cover their past debts, while they benefit from entirely speculative financial manipulations.
The parent banks of SIVs generate huge profits by charging fees to their “independent” offspring,
The collapse of the housing and mortgage markets, and resulting contraction in credit markets, has made it impossible for the SIVs to sell their commercial paper to increasingly skeptical investors, while the underlying value of their assets has been thrown into question.
Large sums of SIV debt come due in November, and Wall Street has grown increasingly fearful that the SIVs will be forced to sell off their assets at vastly reduced prices, driving down the value of securities held by the banks and major financial institutions in the US and around the world. This is a scenario for a potential panic that could disable credit markets, precipitate a massive sell-off on global stock markets and result in huge losses for major banks.
And in more depressing news, Jennifer Granholm endorses Hillary Clinton.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
Well, damn.
I ♥ Jennifer Granholm, but this is just too bad. I guess I shouldn't be surprised, though.
Cécilia Sarkozy yesterday blamed her divorce from the French President, Nicolas Sarkozy, on her hatred of the public spotlight and the "inexplicable" collapse of her love for her husband.
"What happened to me has happened to millions of people," she said. "Your relationship with your partner is no longer the essential thing in your life. It no longer works. The reasons are inexplicable, it happens to lots of people. It just happens."
Mme Sarkozy, 49, was talking in an interview with the regional newspaper L'Est Republicain on the day after the Elysée Palace announced that the President and his wife had divorced.
In an emotional and wide-ranging interview, Mme Sarkozy said that she and her husband had tried "everything possible" to avoid the split but she had been unable to tolerate life in the public eye since his election five months ago.
http://news.independent.co.uk/
eu...icle3078914.ece
Hermione is a man!
I ♥ Jennifer Granholm, but this is just too bad. I guess I shouldn't be surprised, though
It was inevitable.
I've come to detest politics.
I think a lot of people are buying Hillary on margin, so to speak.
Hermione is a man!
NTodd will be disappointed.
(CNN) May 2008: Alan Greenspan jumped out his office window when he found his stocks were worthless. In line with the wisdom and well-thought out reasoning of his previous decisions, he failed to die. His office was in the basement.
"we are experts"-Arthur Laffer and Larry Kudlow
Tony Blair has emerged as a possible candidate for "President of Europe", a new post created by the treaty approved by EU leaders at their Lisbon summit.
The former prime minister's name was put in the frame yesterday by Nicolas Sarkozy, the French President, who described Mr Blair as "a very remarkable man – the most European of all Britons." He added: "To think of him would be a good idea."
The treaty scraps the current system under which one country holds the EU's rotating presidency for six months. It will be replaced by the appointment of a President, who will chair EU meetings, drive through its agenda and serve for two-and-a-half years.
http://news.independent.co.uk/
eu...icle3078889.ece
Ok, Net Neutrality experts--how bad is this stuff that Comcast has been pulling on customers?
Comcast decided that network traffic generated by peer-to-peer networks was taking up too much capacity. Peer-to-peer (p2p) services are unique because they engage individual computers not only in downloading material, but also uploading. SMIP
Comcast decided that in the interest of keeping its network flowing to the most people, it would crack down on these p2p users by blocking their uploaded transmissions. It didn’t block any other uploads, or any other big downloads. It only targeted p2p uploads, and it did it in a particularly sneaky way. Comcast configured the network so that the site to which users were connected thought it was getting an instruction from the uploading user to break the connection. Except that the users never sent that instruction. Comcast spoofed their identity. There are lots of ways to manage a network. Discriminating against one particular type of traffic, in disguise no less, is not a good one.
Then again, that’s what Comcast does. The Washington Post reported a few weeks ago that Comcast has cut off customers for using too much bandwidth. It’s not that the customers knew they were doing anything wrong. No one told them. Comcast simply decided it was in the best interest of the network to do so.
http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/
coff...eutrality_cause
Link to Josh's initial article on this in at top of the post.
Give me a lover and I can make the earth move.
It's the weekend, everybody dance!
(Kula Shaker - Dictator of the Free World)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R...h?
v=RpsAZYIHs7Q
I ? Jennifer Granholm, but this is just too bad. I guess I shouldn't be surprised, though
Follow the money.
I have no issue with this, except to remark that I actually was all set to buy Google at the first go - secret password code and everything - when for reasons that now escape me, I did not. This means that I no longer participate actively in the market, but only thru my proxy, Money Lady.
Does anyone have Cécilia Sarkozy's phone number, by the way?
'Cause she's out there now, y'know!
Emma Watson is completely unsexy to me, even if imagine her at a decent age. Bad acting is a real turnoff for me.
A rant against the continuing incursion of religion in schools
Excerpt:
I saw the following sticker this morning on I-95 in Palm Beach County:
Bring Prayer Back to School
Oh, Jesus H. Christ with salisbury steak and chocolate milk. Do the wingnut fundies fail to see the obvious: prayer has never been out of school!! No authority has ever advocated, to my knowledge, that one can't pray in school. Hell, even I was known to utter a prayer now and then: "Please, God, let me pass this exam" or, more likely, "Please, God, let [fill in girl's name] notice me -- and in a good way this time."
When Youssef Toma and his family fled their home in Baghdad's perilous Dora neighbourhood and found refuge in the peaks and valleys of Kurdistan, they assumed their fear had been left behind with their furniture.
With the help of local authorities, Mr Toma, a former manager of an insurance company, had spent the last year building a new house, and life, in Anishky, a village nestling at the foot of the Matin mountains in the bucolic Sabna valley, 13 miles from the Turkish border.
Mr Toma, a deacon in the Assyrian church, and his family soon became active members of the neighbourhood congregation. He took special pride in developing his garden. Standing by a healthy crop of tomatoes this week, he gestured with his trowel at the perimeter walls of a palace Saddam Hussein built for his wife Sajida in the late 70s - a reminder, he said, that the beauty of the region was not just prized by locals.
Last weekend, however, Mr Toma's rural idyll was brutally disrupted. The dread he felt in Baghdad returned. For about 45 terrifying minutes, a barrage of Turkish artillery shells rained down from the clear night sky upon Anishky.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/
The_Ku...2195574,00.html
Hermione is a man!
NTodd will be disappointed.
The Tick
No way! Emma has grown up rather nicely, if I do say so myself.
Hints that Fed not happy with Hammerin' Hank Paulson's quasi-bailout of Citigroup
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/0f79b2...?
nclick_check=1
Does anyone have Cécilia Sarkozy's phone number, by the way?
'Cause she's out there now, y'know!
I hear she could have Simels...
Hermione is a man!
NTodd will be disappointed.
The Tick | 10.20.07 - 11:37 am
He'll adjust.
And in more pressing news, Rowling says Dumbledore is gay.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
The dood was always setting off my gaydar.
Compulsive gambling doesn't seem to have any real upside, does it.
Amid reports of mounting Shi'a infighting there, officials in the Southern city of Diwaniyah, about 100 miles south of Baghdad, say that not only Iran but other neighboring countries in the Gulf may be involved in stoking the violence. Two incidents this week have ratcheted up their concern. On Wednesday, seven Iraqi police officers were killed by a bomb in the nearby village of Afak. That followed bloodshed on Monday, when at least six civilians were killed and dozens wounded in a mortar barrage on the Polish-run Coalition base in town.
Such spectacular incidents overshadow the almost daily clashes between the rival Shi'ite militias that inevitably kill and maim civilians. Diwaniyah now nearly rivals Basra as a vicious free-for-all in the growing civil war among the Shi'a. While none of the recent fighting can be directly linked to any outside group, local security officials say that they can now add to the list of troublemakers elements of al-Qaeda and other Sunni Arab fighters, who appear to be taking advantage of the chaos to regain a toehold in the region and accelerate the flow of Shi'a blood.
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m3736...&hd=&size=1&
l=e
I still don't understand margin calls
The dood was always setting off my gaydar.
Gomez
Ummm, I've seen your penis, and I was unaware of any gay detector in there, dood.
Dumbledore gay
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071...nm/
rowling_dc_1
Oh yeah, BREAKING NEWS:
GOMEZ HAS A PENIS.
Ummm, I've seen your penis, and I was unaware of any gay detector in there, dood.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
TMI!
Ummm, I've seen your penis, and I was unaware of any gay detector in there, dood.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
The beard was a dead giveaway.
Gay people always have beards.
TMI!
I was going to say "stroked," but...
Albus Dumbledore
Call me!!
.Dumbledore gay
Meh.
Ummm, I've seen your penis,
HELLo
Ah, the cats have finally stopped using the bed as a spring board in their Cat Olympics training, so I think I'll try for a nap once again.
I can rest easy now that Ruth has assured me that we needn't worry about Mr. Prince's company. There are some new contracts for the blackguards to bid on.
I ♥ pregnant pauses.
That was thread stopper, fer sure.
Compulsive gambling doesn't seem to have any real upside, does it.
Hey! I wrote my book of virtues while playing blackjack and getting free blow jobs!
-Bill Bennett
I ♥ pregnant pauses.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
speaking of which,
i'm going to be a grandpa!
again
again
Well, no Atriot has seen my penis.
Yet.
congrats dirk!!!
And on the Surge Front--
A principal architect of Iraq’s interim constitution, who resigned in August as one of the country’s top diplomats, has laid out a devastating critique of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and the U.S. occupation, telling NBC News that, functionally, “there is no Iraqi government.”
The diplomat, Feisal Amin Istrabadi, said in his first interview since stepping down as Iraq’s deputy ambassador to the United Nations that “this government has got to go.”
Heckuva job, Bushies!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21364048
Bring Prayer Back to School
Some code words dare not speak their name In this case the missing word is "mandatory". To these fools, who have wet dreams about making everybody else's trains run on time (to THEIR station) anything not mandatory really should be forbidden, and they project that onto us...
Well, no Atriot has seen my penis.
Mine, neither.
Well, no Atriot has seen my penis.
Yet.
Sinfonian, with new job
quick, look down!
J.K. Rowling Outs Hogwarts Character
In unrelated news, Liberty University officials are investigating the formation of a sulphurous cloud that has formed over the campus. The unusual formation, described by an observer as "a miasma of brimstone", appears to be originating from, or near, Reverend Jerry Falwell's grave.
Dirk,
Although you are too young and handsome to be a grandpappy, CONGRATULATIONS!
Compulsive gambling doesn't seem to have any real upside, does it.
Free drinks.
Mine, neither.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
but you just said you have ?
quick, look down!
Your grandchildren are very lucky to have you.
Hermione is a man!
NTodd will be disappointed.
The Tick
No way! Emma has grown up rather nicely, if I do say so myself.
Sinfonian, with new job | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 11:40 am |
Don't forget to get your Hermione Granger action figure and your life size Aragog plushy.
http://www.statuetoys.com/harry-...with-
sound.html
http://www.fao.com/catalog/ensem...p?
ensembleId=85
I really wouldn't worry too much about this. After all, Wal-Mart is going to cut prices on 1,600 different items in time for Christmas!
but you just said you have ?
Heretofore, I haven't revealed the true nature of myself.
I am a Shemale.
Hey, dirk:
Mazel tov!
Uh oh!
U.S. military forces are capable of conducting operations against Iran if called on to bomb nuclear facilities or other targets, the new Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said yesterday.
"From a military standpoint, there is more than enough reserve to respond if that, in fact, is what the national leadership wanted to do, and so I don't think we're too stretched in that regard," Adm. Michael Mullen told reporters when asked if current operations had worn out U.S. forces.
Adm. Mullen said he has been concerned over the past year and a half with Iranian leaders' statements of intentions, Tehran's support for bombers in Iraq and Iran's covert drive for nuclear weapons.
Uh oh. Uh oh.
Looks like Mullen has been whipped into line.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/a.../110190089/
1002
I am a Shemale.
Paging Andrew Stein! Mr. Stein to the white courtesy phone!
What do you call a dinner of penises?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/
f5/Matsutake.jpg
Wal-Mart is going to cut prices on 1,600 different items in time for Christmas!
Copies of Talladega Nights in every stocking!
Paging Andrew Stein
If the name fits...
The diplomat, Feisal Amin Istrabadi, said in his first interview since stepping down as Iraq’s deputy ambassador to the United Nations that “this government has got to go.”
Heckuva job, Bushies!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21364048
jawbone | 10.20.07 - 11:48 am
So is he taking money from the lobbying firm behind the Kurds and Allawi?
Now off to check the PR Watch Spin of the Day.
I am a Shemale.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
ah.
i thought that you and gomez shared one.
Dumbledore gay
If Phelps & his Whelps haven;t yet joined the Potter Jihad, they will now...
Is The kenosha Kid still here?
Hmm, let's try that again
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wiki...5/
Matsutake.jpg
Spinoza:
What do you call a dinner of penises?
404 error: File not found
Vicki-
Found poetry
If Phelps & his Whelps haven;t yet joined the Potter Jihad, they will now...
Elmer, PHD
To be joined by their pal Fred Thompson.
thanks for the good wishes all.
can't stay today - 2 shows, a 2pm matinee and then closing show at 8.
see ya!
Spinoza~
Looks, uh, appetizing, if you want to take a hallucinogenic trip!
Iraqi President Jalal Talabani has criticised Syria for its support for a possible Turkish intervention against Kurdish rebels in northern Iraq.
Mr Talabani, himself a Kurd, said comments by his Syrian counterpart, Bashar al-Assad, represented "a dangerous crossing of red lines".
The Turkish parliament has authorised cross-border raids, but the government says action is not imminent.
Ankara blames the rebels for attacks on soldiers and civilians inside Turkey.
Both the US and Iraq have urged Ankara to avoid military action which they fear could destabilise the entire region.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world...ast/
7054181.stm
can't stay today - 2 shows, a 2pm matinee and then closing show at 8.
Is dirk an actor?
Is dirk an actor?
res ipsa loquitur
community theater, at least until i am discovered. which, if any agents come see this show, i may be.
Is dirk an actor?
yeah, he acts in community theatre.
today's matinee will be interpreted for the hearing impaired. which, since it a pun-filled british farce, should be very interesting.
And just last night ABC News was giving out WH propaganda that the US had been given photos which showed clearly that the Syrians were building a nuke facility!
And earlier that same day:
U.N. experts have received satellite imagery of the site struck last month by Israeli warplanes and are analyzing it for signs that it might have been a secret nuclear facility, diplomats said Friday.
One of the diplomats indicated that the photos came from U.S intelligence. Two others said the images, which have been studied by experts of the International Atomic Energy Agency since being received on Thursday, do not at first examination appear to substantiate reports that the target was a nuclear installation, but emphasized that the images were still under examination.
Jeez, ABC is such a tool for BushCo.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12784361/
BREAK A LEG, DIRK!
Toi-Toi-Toi!
Is The kenosha Kid still here?
res ipsa loquitur | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 11:53 am | #
I hope not --he'll call me a wanker again because I hate David Bowie.
Poor guy -- he really takes it personally. I have no idea why...
Wanker.
What's this about Dumbledore's wand?
/Larry!
What do you call a dinner of penises?
A stopover at Minneapolis-St. Paul???
Music is personal, Steve.
Do you know how many people think I'm lococuckoo for my obsession with the Indigo Girls?
My initial reaction was just that it was gratuitous grandstanding on JKR's part, but I suppose there is a certain narrative symmetry in having Dumbledore be gay. His love obsession lead him into darkeness while Snape's led him to redemption.
What do you call a dinner of penises?
What do you call a penis full of dinners?
Do you know how many people think I'm lococuckoo for my obsession with the Indigo Girls?
We like you just fine.
Do you know how many people think I'm lococuckoo for my obsession with the Indigo Girls?
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
Probably about the same number who deride me for liking Nickelback and Evanescence.
. my obsession with the Indigo Girls?
(...steely gaze with Clint Eastwood upper lip twitch.....)
We like you just fine.
Amy -n- Emily
Awwwhhh. That was sweet, whoever did that.
Forget Harry Potter. In another month, McCainintheass and Mutt will be nuking the Golden Compass.
http://www.ajc.com/hotjobs/
conte...stagehands.html
"stage hands" interpreters for the hearing impaired
perhaps simels would enjoy bowie more if he were interpreted
Jeez, ABC is such a tool for BushCo.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12784361/
jawbone | 10.20.07 - 11:58 am
Didja think they'd learn after the incredibly successful debacle of Colon Powell before the UN Security Council?
. my obsession with the Indigo Girls?
You're crazed on two levels: first, you like that hippie Lilith Faire shite and second, you like to fuck to that hipplie Lilith Faire shite.
(I realize that this comment is going to get me all types of shite, but there it is.)
Probably about the same number who deride me for liking Nickelback and Evanescence.
Sinfonian, with new job |
ok, now that's just wrong.
Forget Harry Potter. In another month, McCainintheass and Mutt will be nuking the Golden Compass.
I am so looking forward to that film!
You're crazed on two levels: first, you like that hippie Lilith Faire shite and second, you like to fuck to that hipplie Lilith Faire shite.
Well, at least you nailed it!
Best sex of my life has been fucking to that hippie Lilith Fiare shite.
you like to fuck to that hipplie Lilith Faire shite.
it helps pass the time.
I was out and about this AM and heard Charles Osgood on the radio lying his ass off again. THIS is the problem. This is a snippet. See if you see the problem, "There are only 10 Republican members of Congress standing in our way now of 10 million children getting health care in America." said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
President Bush had said all along that he would be willing to work out a compromise on the children's health insurance program. And now that the veto override has failed says white House Press Secretary Dana Perino.
"Now we can have a conversation about getting to common ground that fits with the President has said he wants to do which is to take care of poor children first." said White House Press Secretary Dana Perino.
But the Democrats aren't talking about ANY conversations with the President. Nancy Pelosi.
"In the next two weeks we intend to send the President another bill that insures, that provides health care for 10 million children." said Pelosi.
House Democratic leader Steny Hoyer.
"We will not rest. We will not stop our efforts until such time as we add 10 million children to the health insurance program in existence today in America." said Rep. Steny Hoyer, D-MD, House Majority leader.
Nancy Pelosi says there's nothing to discuss. "This isn't even an issue anymore. It's a value. It's an ethic. It's a consensus in our country." said Pelosi.
There they go again says the White House. "We would hope that they would like to have discussions with us soon. Obviously when we were going through the SCHIP debate originally, Republicans were cut off from the debate." said Perino.
http://www.westwoodone.com/pg/js...t.jsp?
pid=18810
My initial reaction was just that it was gratuitous grandstanding on JKR's part, but I suppose there is a certain narrative symmetry in having Dumbledore be gay. His love obsession lead him into darkeness while Snape's led him to redemption.
blerb
I think it neatly explains the plot point of why Dumbledore was taken with the schemes of Grundewald (a bit of a sticky point in the novel). But I'm glad she didn't include the information in the novel, on the other hand; everyone would have ignored the book (which is amazing in its own right) and trumpeted: "Hey! Dumbledore is teh gai!"
This place is weird, thanks to me.
If anyone sees TKK will you please ask him to report to me via telephone?
I swear to Christ, TKK is more elusive than bin Laden.
Later, pommes.
So sad--and this will be a growing problem--
The number of Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans seeking treatment for post-traumatic stress disorder from the Department of Veterans Affairs jumped by nearly 20,000 — almost 70 percent — in the 12 months ending June 30, records show.
More than 100,000 veterans — about one out of seven of those who have served and left active duty — have sought help for mental illness since late 2001, the start of the war in Afghanistan, according to VA records collected through the end of June. Almost half of those cases were for PTSD.
The numbers do not include thousands treated at storefront Vet Centers operated by the department across the country. Nor does it include active-duty personnel diagnosed with PTSD or former service members who have not sought treatment from the VA for their mental problems.
http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/...ns_ptsd_071019/
my excellent british accent will be wasted on most of this afternoon's audience.
maybe i'll do french just for a change.
"Lilith Faire shite"
I loved that scene in "Hedwig and the Angry Inch" where they play at "Menses Faire", on a lot back by all the (women's) porta-potties.
yeah, he acts in community theatre.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 11:57 am | #
I am so looking forward to that film!
Marcellina | 10.20.07 - 12:03 pm | #
I read they took out a whole bunch of religious references. Like that will call off the religio-fascists.
The number of Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans seeking treatment for post-traumatic stress disorder from the Department of Veterans Affairs jumped by nearly 20,000 — almost 70 percent — in the 12 months ending June 30, records show.
Congress shows its support for our troops by ignoring these statistics.
yipes - noon.
i've really got to go.
try not to miss me too much while i'm gone.
Break a leg, dirksie!
I must say that the only way I would consent to have sex with anyone while listenig to the Indigo Girls would be if there were restraints, hot wax, and very large dildos and/or fists involved.
This place is weird, thanks to me.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 12:05 pm | #
Well, nobody's buying that Shemale stuff, toots.
yeah, he acts in community theatre.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 11:57 am | #
don't we all?
ps. haloscan fucking sucks.
Forget Harry Potter. In another month, McCainintheass and Mutt will be nuking the Golden Compass.
I am so looking forward to that film!
I hope it doesn't suck.
Have fun, dirk!
Meanwhile, Retrokittypics!
Featuring deranged Gramsci!
restraints, hot wax, and very large dildos and/or fists
blerb | 10.20.07 - 12:10 pm | #
Isn't that the name of their latest cd?
Memo to Nancy Pelosi,
You may think that you have had some success in passing legislation but I would not trade all of the legislation you passed for the life of one of the fine young Americans killed in this ridiculously illegal war that you keep allowing to happen on your watch.
Respectfully,
DWD
ESPN has some of the worst sports announcers I've seen.
Corso and Herbstreet are close to the top of the list.
Idiots' idiots.
i'm looking forward to seeing Elizabeth: The Golden Age and American Gangster
I hope it doesn't suck.
The trailer looked pretty good.
I'm also looking forward to Sweeney Todd.
Forget Harry Potter. In another month, McCainintheass and Mutt will be nuking the Golden Compass.
I am so looking forward to that film!
I hope it doesn't suck.
NTodd, Cupcake-American | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 12:10 pm | #
All advance notice has been very promising, thank the gods. If they fuck up Pullman, I'll be pissed.
I'm also looking forward to Sweeney Todd.
Marcellina | 10.20.07 - 12:12 pm | #
ooh me too, its released here in the UK on my birthday (Jan 25th)
If anyone is interested in the Blackwater issue, teacherken has a superlative diary up at Teh Great Pumpkin on Bill Moyer's conversation with Jeremy Scahill.
Would love to stay and chat -
But I actually have a radio show of my own to prep for.
Vigilance.
DWD, I'm sorry to have to ask, but what is your gravatar? To my weak eyes it looks like a nude Amazon with a sheet over her head.
I'm looking forward to "Restraints, Hot Wax, and Very Large Dildos and/or Fists", the Motion Picture ,coming soon on DVD.
/Larry!
Well, nobody's buying that Shemale stuff, toots.
Damn! And I thought I had you fooled!
Probably about the same number who deride me for liking Nickelback and Evanescence.
Sinfonian, with new job | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 12:01 pm |
You like Nickelback and Evanescence?!
Off with your head!
Vigilance.
Rachel?
So Nancy P just apologized for remarks by democrats AGAIN.
Marcellina,
It is Akela, the White Wolf from the Jungle Books singing his death song. (I am somewhat maudlin lately)
my weak eyes it looks like a nude Amazon with a sheet over her head.
Marcellina ,
Funny, I thought something similar at first also. It's a howling wolf, no? The ear hole looks kind of like a nipple to those with dirty minds, I guess.
Not an Evanescence fan but the lead singer's voice is quite beguiling.
You like Nickelback and Evanescence?!
Off with your head!
Good thing I don't like Nickelback.
I am so looking forward to that film!
I hope it doesn't suck.
NTodd, Cupcake-American | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 12:10 pm | #
All advance notice has been very promising, thank the gods. If they fuck up Pullman, I'll be pissed.
rorschach, meh | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 12:13 pm
I should read the books, first.
I'd intended to do so last weekend, while in Omaha, but couldn't find my copy of book 1, and I wasn't going to read them out of order.
At least seven people have died in a bomb blast in south-western Pakistan, and six are injured, police in the region say.
The explosion took place in the town of Dera Bugti in Balochistan province.
Some reports say the explosion was in a market, while others say the bomb was on a bus at a bus station.
Militants in Balochistan have been fighting for greater autonomy for the mineral-rich province for the last five years.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south...sia/
7053936.stm
Staring at the computer, getting absolutely no work done. Even my presence here is more lurking than annoying or contributing. May as well go to the gym, do nothing there.
Good thing I don't like Nickelback.
Yes, because I'd hate to see you lose your -um- head.
See - everyone is so intolerant here!
I should read the books, first.
I'd intended to do so last weekend, while in Omaha, but couldn't find my copy of book 1, and I wasn't going to read them out of order.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins | 10.20.07 - 12:16 pm | #
Wise choices. You must read the books first, and you must read them in order.
They are phenomenal.
Not an Evanescence fan but the lead singer's voice is quite beguiling.
Marcellina
I'd hit it.
See - everyone is so intolerant here!
Sinfonian, with new job | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 12:17 pm | #
Fuck you and your new job!
By the way, how's the new job?
i've never read a Phillip Pullman book
but I did watch an adaption of Ruby in the Smoke on the Beeb last Christmas heh
They are phenomenal.
rorschach, meh | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 12:17 pm | #
I love how, at the end of the third book, he wakes up and its all a dream.
I love how, at the end of the third book, he wakes up and its all a dream.
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!
i've not read either Phillip Pullman or Terry Prachett
Wise choices. You must read the books first, and you must read them in order.
They are phenomenal.
I second that. While I devoured the Harry Potter books, these make much more interesting reads.
I love how, at the end of the third book, he wakes up and its all a dream.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi | 10.20.07 - 12:18 pm | #
Dood, you gotta say "spoiler alert" before posting something like that!
I'm hoping that that spoiler was snark, both for the sake of the reading experience and for the sake of the stories themselves.
Going back to bed.
Toodles!
It was a JOKE!!
"Tony Blair has emerged as a possible candidate for "President of Europe", a new post created by the treaty approved by EU leaders at their Lisbon summit."
Jeebus, I hope this isn't the next Eagle's Nest!
heh I've been enjoying reading Jim Butcher's Dresden Files series
The wolf for my gravatar
http://img.photobucket.com/album...20001/
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I second that. While I devoured the Harry Potter books, these make much more interesting reads.
Marcellina | 10.20.07 - 12:19 pm | #
True, that.
If I ever were to teach a class on Milton, Blake, and the sublime, Pullman's books would be required reading.
Alas, I feel like I will never get through That Baroque Cycle and thus be able to read anything else. I think Stephenson needs to avail himself of a somewhat more authoritarian editor. Parts of it just drag on endlessly.
Bush read three Philip Pullmans last night and then swam the Yangtze while reading Camus.
The same assholes who are against medicine for babies wants to make sure the ones that do survive see nice movies:
http://www.southbendtribune.com/...71020011/-1/
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Fuck you and your new job!
By the way, how's the new job?
rorschach, meh
I don't start till November 26. Just accepted this week and resigned (effective Nov. 16) yesterday from my current one.
How's yours?
I should read the books, first.
I'd intended to do so last weekend, while in Omaha, but couldn't find my copy of book 1, and I wasn't going to read them out of order.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins | 10.20.07 - 12:16 pm | #
Wise choices. You must read the books first, and you must read them in order.
They are phenomenal.
rorschach, meh | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 12:17 pm |
I should also read Chronicles of Narnia as well.
My best friend likes Narnia, but loves Pullman. I bought Golden Compass and Subtle Knife at booksales. I figure if I can't find the third one at the Planned Parenthood booksale in three weeks, I can always borrow her copy.
Moon, a friend of mine, a real anglophile, started throwing Discworld books at me on occasion, and now I can't get enough of them!
And I recommend the Pullman trilogy.
But some people hate fantasy reading. If you like Harry Potter, if you got through Lord Of The Rings, then you'll enjoy these.
It was a JOKE!!
Bjorn,a poor young country boi | 10.20.07 - 12:20 pm | #
We were playing ALONG!
i've always thought DWD's gravatr was a old man with a long beard holding a stick standing on a rock
but now i see its a wolf
I should also read Chronicles of Narnia as well.
My best friend likes Narnia, but loves Pullman. I bought Golden Compass and Subtle Knife at booksales. I figure if I can't find the third one at the Planned Parenthood booksale in three weeks, I can always borrow her copy.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins | 10.20.07 - 12:23 pm | #
Funny, given that Pullman's books are consciously written as anti-Narnia texts...
though Terry Pracett has never really appealed to me
what I mean is i have no great desire to read his books
i'm sure they good but they just don't say to me 'read me!'
you saw this i hope
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ro...-cliff-
schecter
Pullman's books are consciously written as anti-Narnia texts...
What, in terms of the religious allegory? I have no knowledge of them whatsoever.
I'm hoping that that spoiler was snark, both for the sake of the reading experience and for the sake of the stories themselves.
blerb | 10.20.07 - 12:20 pm
Darth Vader is Lyra's father.
heh i grew up reading the Tales of Narnia, I had this wonderful illustrated guide to the books
and the BBC TV adaption of three of the tales on tape
Funny, given that Pullman's books are consciously written as anti-Narnia texts...
Hey, my two favorite Framers were Hamilton and Jefferson...
Terry Pracett has never really appealed to me
Read Good Omens.
I've read thru Neal Stephenson's The Baroque Cycle twice heh
I should also read Chronicles of Narnia as well.
My best friend likes Narnia, but loves Pullman. I bought Golden Compass and Subtle Knife at booksales. I figure if I can't find the third one at the Planned Parenthood booksale in three weeks, I can always borrow her copy.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins | 10.20.07 - 12:23 pm | #
Funny, given that Pullman's books are consciously written as anti-Narnia texts...
rorschach, meh | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 12:25 pm |
She finds it funny, as well.
Are you enjoying Fall?
OMG!! Dumbledore is gay!!
I don't start till November 26. Just accepted this week and resigned (effective Nov. 16) yesterday from my current one.
How's yours?
Sinfonian, with new job | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 12:23 pm | #
Congrats on the shift, and best wishes.
Mine is going absurdly well. The teaching is going as expected--99% pounding head against brick wall, 1% elation at seeing the light go on in the student's eyes.
The university community is just ridiculously supportive and friendly. The house is great, though messy. The cats are happy. And I hear geese flying overhead every now and again.
I don't trust this level of happiness. Something's gotta be up.
Did anybody watch Real Time last night?
What were those people screaming?
though my current read is The Political Animal by Jeremy Paxman
and I also picked up two books from a charity shop this week
The Victorians by A.N. Wilson and Fortune's Daughters: The Extravagant Lives of the Jerome Sisters - Jennie Churchill, Clara Frewen and Leonie Leslie by Elisabeth Kehoe
I've read thru Neal Stephenson's The Baroque Cycle twice heh
Holy crap. That's over 5,000 big pages of small type. Did it improve with the second reading? I have no doubt I am missing lots of important details on the first pass.
i'm sure they good but they just don't say to me 'read me!'
One of the new experiences of living in a non-English-speaking land is that I will start to read almost anything that comes my way, just to be reading something in English. The Int.Herald Trib's too expensive and I sometimes finish the New Yorker issue the day it arrives.
So I've become a lot more open to giving things a try even when they don't say "read me."
Are you enjoying Fall?
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins | 10.20.07 - 12:27 pm | #
We are, in fact, going "leaf-peeping" this afternoon.
I don't trust this level of happiness. Something's gotta be up.
It's your payback for the time when you were in grad school and unemployed and your house got flooded. Enjoy it.
Breaking: George Lucas reveals that C-3PO was gay.
Holy crap. That's over 5,000 big pages of small type. Did it improve with the second reading? I have no doubt I am missing lots of important details on the first pass.
blerb | 10.20.07 - 12:29 pm | #
yeah, sort of, it all makes sense by the third book, which ties in with the first
I don't trust this level of happiness. Something's gotta be up.
rorschach, meh
Well, enjoy the ride while it lasts.
C-3PO??
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
Hey, my two favorite Framers were Hamilton and Jefferson...
NTodd, Cupcake-American
I heard they were both gay.
George Lucas reveals that C-3PO was gay.
EEP!
I just realized ... this afternoon and evening I'll be able to watch the football teams of my past employer, my current employer, and my future employer, all on the same day.
Good thing I got new batteries for the remote.
Pullman's books are consciously written as anti-Narnia texts...
What, in terms of the religious allegory? I have no knowledge of them whatsoever.
blerb | 10.20.07 - 12:25 pm | #
In a nutshell, Pullman feels that Lewis's idealization of "innocence" as the perfect state is naive, and so writes his books more along the lines of William Blake, in which innocence is perfected by experience (or "The Fall" in Milton's terms).
though my current read is The Political Animal by Jeremy Paxman
and I also picked up two books from a charity shop this week
The Victorians by A.N. Wilson and Fortune's Daughters: The Extravagant Lives of the Jerome Sisters - Jennie Churchill, Clara Frewen and Leonie Leslie by Elisabeth Kehoe
Moonbootica, Der Rosenkavalier | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 12:28 pm
I just finished With Speed and Violence, and Rule of Four, and started with the Frodo Franchise, which will have to wait until I finish John Dean's new one (library due dates and renewal possibilities play a large part in my reading selection).
i've also been enjoying two books by Sci fi author Charles Stross
Singularity Sky and Glasshouse, he is in a similar vein to my favourite author Ken MacLeod and he even has his own website - Charlie's Diary
I am a Shemale.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
I am a hefemale.
You're crazed on two levels: first, you like that hippie Lilith Faire shite and second, you like to fuck to that hipplie Lilith Faire shite.
Well, at least you nailed it!
Best sex of my life has been fucking to that hippie Lilith Fiare shite.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
.....and I love to fuck to that Lilith Faire Shite!!
I knew I liked you, Vicki!!
.I don't trust this level of happiness. Something's gotta be up.
rorschach, meh
Well, eventually something really bad will happen to you, and you, as well as everyone who is dear to you, will die, as likely as not in some really unpleasant way. Feel better now? Enjoy the good times while they last, my friend. Don't question them.
Is this the reading thread?
I'm currently reading the Oxford History of Italy and rereading The Raven in the Foregate by Ellis Peters - a Brother Cadfael mystery.
God bless Barbara Lee!
...While Pelosi, in her statement Friday, said Stark had gone too far, Rep. Barbara Lee, D-Oakland, provided him a measured defense.
"The Republicans are desperate to change the subject from the real issue at hand, which is an occupation that has cost us almost a half a trillion dollars, and there's no end in sight," she said. "That's the real issue here, and the Republicans, and the president, are desperate to avoid it."
Hey, Nancy - how fucking hard was that?
It's your payback for the time when you were in grad school and unemployed and your house got flooded. Enjoy it.
Molly Ivors, Vaginal-American | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 12:29 pm | #
Hmm. That's a good way of thinking of it, I believe.
And I am. Last night: Fancy dinner and drinks with fellow faculty members. Then, I went to the working-class bar down the road and drank till closing. Not a bad life, I gotta say.
Not a bad life, I gotta say.
Want to grade my papers?
Well, eventually something really bad will happen to you, and you, as well as everyone who is dear to you, will die, as likely as not in some really unpleasant way. Feel better now?
Yes.
Are you enjoying Fall?
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins | 10.20.07 - 12:27 pm | #
We are, in fact, going "leaf-peeping" this afternoon.
rorschach, meh | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 12:29 pm
Excellent! It's a beautiful day here in SW Ohio, but no leaf-peeping today. Hopefully next weekend my friend and I can go somewhere.
Marcellina:
LOVE your gravatar.
I'm against Pelosi's War.
Gotta run; later folks.
Shoot me now.
Others are against gay marriage because the constitution banns same sex couples marrying like Bush and Kerry.
its been a lovely autumn day here in Devizes
sun and blue skies plus its very crisp
which the type of autumn/winter weather i like, cause its cheerful
what gets me down is persistent grey clouds, rain and winds
Terry C, heh, you're the second person this week! Steve Simels likes it too.
BREAKING:
Knight Rider car, GAY!!
Want to grade my papers?
Molly Ivors, Vaginal-American | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 12:34 pm | #
Fuck no!
And fuck, I pulled the whole, "I'm not gonna read your rough drafts, but after you get your grade, you can revise if you want" thing.
This usual results in 2 or 3 revised papers.
These fuckers up here? I've got about 20 of the goddamn things!
I mean, good, but they're making me work for my money!
Meanwhile, I've been having a blast putting together a reading list for my spring Modern American Literature course--
How's about a survey: What novels should I teach?
More than 80% of CCTV pictures are of such poor quality they are no good for police purposes, and most cameras are in the wrong places to help in fighting serious crime or terrorism, according to a joint Home Office and police report yesterday. The first official report on the need for a national CCTV strategy admits the authorities have no idea how many cameras exist despite claims that Britain is the most watched nation in the world, with more than 4m in operation.
The report says there are no statutory safeguards and anyone is able to set up a CCTV network. It suggests the first steps to driving up standards would be to start a national database of schemes, with stronger powers for the information commissioner to license them. Whether legal powers exist to tackle invasions of privacy involving privately-run CCTV is a grey area.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/
...2195585,00.html
My gravatar has disappeared 
The Color Purple is a good teach. And Crying of Lot 49 is short enough to be accessible. Maybe some Coover?
DWD, Neither Nancy Pelosi or Give 'Em Head Harry deserve your respect, or the respect of anyone else here.
Police in England are setting up a nationwide task force to tackle what they say is an "explosion" in thefts of metal which is then sold on as scrap.
School roofs, statues and power lines have all been targeted as millions of pounds worth of metal has been stolen.
British Transport Police, which is leading the task force, said the theft of rail signalling copper had become its biggest problem after terrorism.
Police believe the demand for metal in India and China is forcing prices up.
Copper is now worth £4,000 a tonne, twice as much as two years ago.
BBC Breakfast has obtained figures which show that in Cambridgeshire metal theft is up 170% in a year, in West Mercia 120%, in the West Midlands 112% and 100% in Warwickshire and Sussex.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/70.../uk/
7053890.stm
I second Molly Ivors on The Crying of Lot 49.
We are, in fact, going "leaf-peeping" this afternoon.
rorschach, meh | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 12:29 pm
Where ya heading to?
Okay, I need to get some stuff done around the house before the Football Gluttony begins in earnest at 3:30.
Catch you patriotz laterz.
.Yes.
rorschach, meh
Sorry to be so stark about it. I lay awake for over an hour last night, imagining among other things the sight of my son's mangled body after he had been crushed by the collapse of his school building, which happens to be situated almost on top of the Hayward fault. I imagined how my wife and I would be helplessly unable to reach him, dead or alive, from our jobs in the City after the big quake. Mostly, though, I just though about how it would feel to see him dead.
I've gotta move to Walnut Creek already. Berkeley is a modern-day Pompeii.
The Crying of Lot 49 is already on the list! I'm a big ol' Pynchon fanboy (having published in a book on Mason & Dixon and all).
I don't know Coover at all though, Molly.
Five weeks ago an English victory in the Rugby World Cup final looked about as plausible as the opening scene of a Bond movie, or a Tory general election victory. How swiftly things change. Tonight, 36 days after they were humiliated 36-0 by South Africa in the group stages, England take on the same opponents in the final with messages of support from 007 and the prime minister ringing in their ears.
Head coach Brian Ashton revealed yesterday that Gordon Brown and Daniel Craig, the current Bond, had led the flood of goodwill that has washed over England's team hotel in Paris this week.
Craig took time out from filming the latest 007 movie in Lithuania to call Ashton and wish him and the players well. "He said he was really sorry that he couldn't be here as he is filming and he wouldn't be able to watch the match," Ashton said. "He just wished us well and said he was a massive England rugby fan."
Craig's interest probably ensures him a permanent invite to Twickenham. The prime minister, who owes his partial loss of sight to a school rugby accident, will be in Paris tonight.
http://sport.guardian.co.uk/
rugb...2195572,00.html
Do you know how many people think I'm lococuckoo for my obsession with the Indigo Girls?
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
Probably about the same number who deride me for liking Nickelback and Evanescence.
Sinfonian, with new job
To each, his/her own.
Where ya heading to?
dmark, | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 12:41 pm | #
A colleague gave us a route, which runs down around the lake through Fond du Lac, and then east and north through the hilly areas over there.
Nancy Pelosi actually condemned Pete Stark for his comments? That I cannot defend. There is no downside to saying bad things about George Bush. I will write her a deeply scathing letter now.
Neither Nancy Pelosi or Give 'Em Head Harry deserve your respect, or the respect of anyone else here.
Duane V
Words cannot describe how disappointed I am in this Democratic Congress.
The Stark Truth!
Others are against gay marriage because the constitution banns same sex couples marrying like Bush and Kerry.
Molly Ivors, Vaginal-American
I was reading the other day where Scalia opposes abortion because there is no mention of it in the Constitution.
Since when do facists like Fat Tony care about the Constitution?
I should pick up Crying of Lot 49 or V sometime. It's not fair to shun all of it just because I was so humiliatingly defeated by Gravity's Rainbow.
At China's National Congress this week, the military fatigues and Mao suits once favoured by the Communist elite have given way to sober blue business suits and striped ties. But out on the streets of Beijing, the imagery of the Cultural Revolution and the Great Leap Forward live on with the nation's fashionistas.
The floral patterns on fabrics sold during the Cultural Revolution between 1966 and 1976 now feature in T-shirts by Hong Kong's leading designers. Meanwhile, street fashion is taking the Sun Yat-sen suit beloved of Chairman Mao Zedong – with its sober trousers and austere, four-pocket jacket – and mixing and matching it with trainers, tracksuit bottoms and baseball caps with red stars on the front.
While leaders in the Great Hall of the People decide the course of the world's fastest-growing economy, young people made wealthy by the boom are mining their recent past for inspiration for cool clobber
http://news.independent.co.uk/
wo...icle3078924.ece
Sorry...fascists.
I should pick up Crying of Lot 49 or V sometime. It's not fair to shun all of it just because I was so humiliatingly defeated by Gravity's Rainbow.
blerb | 10.20.07 - 12:47 pm | #
Gravity's Rainbow is a challenge; it is to postmodernism what Ulysses is to modernism.
V kinda leaves me cold. And Vineland out and out sucks.
Crying is his shortest and most accessible, but Mason & Dixon is his best.
I just thought the misspelling of bans was funny, given the context. Plus, the grammar of the sentence implies that Bush and Kerry were married.
bye for now
Strictly Come Dancing is on now
A colleague gave us a route, which runs down around the lake through Fond du Lac, and then east and north through the hilly areas over there.
rorschach, meh | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 12:44 pm | #
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Just southwest of Fondy is the Horicon Marsh area. That's also great this time of year. And of course you can always head west to the Green Lake area, my old stompin' grounds. Anywhere in the mid part of the state will be great right now.
Dumbledore is gay, 'Harry Potter' author reveals
LOL!
Will Frank Oz now admit the truth about Bert and Big Bird???
I've gotta move to Walnut Creek already. Berkeley is a modern-day Pompeii.
blerb
For years, I lived either next to (literally) or a short distance away from the San Andreas Fault - and when the earthquake finally came it had absolutely nothing to do with that one at all. If you're going to live in fear of earthquakes - and brother I do not downplay that fear one bit - your best thing to do is to get the hell out of the whole area. Albuquerque is probably going to be your best bet.
How's about a survey: What novels should I teach?
rorschach, meh | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 12:37 pm |
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How modern is modern?
"Thin Man" is really great - the most eloquent advertisement for alcohol ever written.
Ever read "Broken Ground" by Keeble?
I see that Krugman can't even get a break at his own paper. He rebutts some of the crappy review in his blog today.
rors -- I don't know if this really fits in with the class, but what about Red Harvest by Dashiell Hammett?
Great episode of THATS SO RAVEN on DisneyChannel right now.
HoneyBearKelly
The people disrupting the telecast of Bill Maher's show last night were 9/11 truth people, yelling about building seven.
Just southwest of Fondy is the Horicon Marsh area. That's also great this time of year. And of course you can always head west to the Green Lake area, my old stompin' grounds. Anywhere in the mid part of the state will be great right now.
dmark, | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 12:50 pm | #
Thanks, I'll take a look around. I've got a map of WI pulled up right now (actually a map of breweries and wineries; Miriam wants to look at leaves--I have my own agenda...)
Where ya heading to?
dmark, | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 12:41 pm | #
A colleague gave us a route, which runs down around the lake through Fond du Lac, and then east and north through the hilly areas over there.
rorschach, meh | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 12:44 pm | #
There was a little bit of color when I was in East/Central Wisconsin three weeks ago:
http://outdoors.webshots.com/
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http://outdoors.webshots.com/
pho...096501088WuQNdX
I've gotta move to Walnut Creek already. Berkeley is a modern-day Pompeii.
blerb
When the big one hits Walnut Creek, the yuppies there will poop themselves. You don't want to see that.
If only Atrios would put up some Paranoids music videos - the grand old days in San Narcisco.
How's about a survey: What novels should I teach?
rorschach, meh | Homepage
James M. Cain
William Irish
Ross McDonald
.
Thanks Duane.
Anybody catch Greg Cole's new band at the Bottom of the Hill last night?
I missed it but the DJ on KALX played a great set of 80s punk/garage (leading off with an awesome wipers track from their live LP).
James M. Cain
William Irish
Ross McDonald
.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 12:54 pm | #
Wow, three names that never even occurred to me. Leave it to you, GWPDA.
We Await Silent Tristeros Empire.
Anyways, here's what I got for my core required readings:
A Farewell to Arms (1929)
As I Lay Dying (1930)
Their Eyes Were Watching God (1937)
The Grapes of Wrath (1939)
Invisible Man (1952)
Lolita (1955)
On the Road (1957)
Naked Lunch (1959/1962)
The Crying of Lot 49 (1966)
Slaughterhouse-Five (1969)
Ragtime (1975)
Ceremony (1977)
MotherFUCKER Obama. Just read that thread below.
If that shit don't get canceled, the guy is dead to me.
Zora Neal Hurston
And then I'm gonna require them to do a presentation of one novel off the alternate list:
The Jungle (1906)
An American Tragedy (1925)
The 42nd Parallel (1930)
Nightwood (1936)
Native Son (1940)
If He Hollers Let Him Go (1945)
All the King’s Men (1946)
The City and the Pillar (194
Other Voices, Other Rooms (194
The Killer Inside Me (1952)
Go Tell It on the Mountain (1953)
Body Snatchers (1955)
Giovanni’s Room (1956)
A Canticle for Leibowitz (1959)
The Manchurian Candidate (1959)
Catch-22 (1961)
The Moviegoer (1961)
An American Dream (1965)
Trout Fishing in America (1967)
Grendel (1971)
The Dispossessed (1974)
The Monkey-Wrench Gang (1975)
Woman on the Edge of Time (1976)
A Confederacy of Dunces (1980)
Neuromancer (1984)
White Noise (1985)
Fools Crow (1986)
Beloved (1987)
Bone (by Fae Myenne Ng) (1993).
It's 1971 on the 10@10 marathon.
Starting off with Hendrix's "Freedom"...
Leave it to you, GWPDA.
rorschach, meh
Heh. And then you can throw in Robert B. Parker's analysis of the genre and be tiq hai with your teacher peeps.
The people disrupting the telecast of Bill Maher's show last night were 9/11 truth people, yelling about building seven.
Mimi!!!
rorschach, meh | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 12:57 pm
Good list - but maybe you should add a book or two from the last 25 years.
Why does using "Click here to refresh" leave one several comments back from where one left off?
It seems to be idling too high or something; can the elusive Jeevan tweak it to return the user back to where where s/he left off? Just wondering and hoping.
Rorschach-you left off Atlas Shrugged.
/runs out of room
ah, sneaky, two lists.
Good list - but maybe you should add a book or two from the last 25 years.
rootless-e | 10.20.07 - 1:00 pm | #
The course is "Modern American Literature" not "Contemporary American Literature."
There is a distinction.
Rorschach-you left off Atlas Shrugged.
/runs out of room
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in | 10.20.07 - 1:01 pm | #
Rorschach-you left off Atlas Shrugged.
/runs out of room
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in | 10.20.07 - 1:01 pm | #
*hits spinoza on back of head with leatherbound copy of Atlas Shrugged*
I will write her a deeply scathing letter now.
Call her SF office Monday - (415) 556-4862.
Atlas shrugged is an incredibly influential book even if it has disgusting ideas and lacks any literary merit.
.When the big one hits Walnut Creek, the yuppies there will poop themselves. You don't want to see that.
Stunt Woman
At least I'll be on the other side of the hills from the Great East Bay Firestorm.
.For years, I lived either next to (literally) or a short distance away from the San Andreas Fault - and when the earthquake finally came it had absolutely nothing to do with that one at all....GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian
Which quake was that? Northridge? I understand that there is noplace that is completely safe. It's just that where we are now in Berkeley, we are right in the middle of the killing zone. Walnut Creek is safer in a number of ways, even if there is an undiscovered fault beneath it.
ah, sneaky, two lists.
rootless-e | 10.20.07 - 1:01 pm | #
I find that it's a very good way to bring a lot of books into the class without overwhelming the students with work. It's all about exposure to good lit...
*hits rorschach on back of head with leatherbound copy of Ayn Rand's genitals.
The debate around these parts is whether the Dems are lazy pussies or complete dumbasses. I'd have to opt for both. Even though the Dims have had issue after issue handed to them to define in their favor they continue dropping the fucken ball most every time. If they were a sports team, they wouldn't draw flies.
I re-read Leslie Marmon Silko's "Almanac of the Dead" last spring. Nice to see "Ceremony" on your list.
Also like Flannery O'Connor, Richard Wright, James Baldwin ...
No "Catcher in the Rye" on that list?
And a personal favorite: "The Public Burning" by Coover...
*hits rorschach on back of head with leatherbound copy of Ayn Rand's genitals.
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in | 10.20.07 - 1:04 pm | #
Ooh! Dat's gotta hoit!
WILLIAM PITT OF DU HAS A COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF REPUBLICAN STATEMENTS WORSE THAN PETE STARK'S
Atlas shrugged is an incredibly influential book even if it has disgusting ideas and lacks any literary merit.
Mein Kampf
Elders of Zion
Book of Mormon
But I don't imagine rorschach teaching these.
*hits rorschach on back of head with copy of Ayn Rand's leatherbound genitals.
Flamed yer tinderbox
There is a distinction.
rorschach, meh | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 1:02 pm | #
my note and the second part of your list crossed paths. But what makes me suspicious is that it looks too much like the list i woulda produced in college 30 years ago.
It's just that where we are now in Berkeley, we are right in the middle of the killing zone
Think about the great book you or your parents will be able to write.
No "Catcher in the Rye" on that list?
No, nor "The Great Gatsby." I don't want to have them reading things they may already have read in high school, and those are high school faves.
I re-read Leslie Marmon Silko's "Almanac of the Dead" last spring. Nice to see "Ceremony" on your list.
Also like Flannery O'Connor, Richard Wright, James Baldwin ...
Walla | 10.20.07 - 1:05 pm | #
Yeah, "Almanac" is rather too weighty, I think, but "Ceremony" is right on (plus Miriam is a Native American literature professor, so my home life would suffer if I didn't include it).
And I think the cluster of Invisible Man, Native Son, Go Tell It on the Mountain, and Giovanni's Room will be very productive.
Rorschach: If you're doing postwar Americans, how about Robert Stone? I've read "Dog Soldiers" or "A Hall of Mirrors" and both would be good additions to your list. And maybe something by Joan Didion, too.
Which quake was that? Northridge? I understand that there is noplace that is completely safe. It's just that where we are now in Berkeley, we are right in the middle of the killing zone. Walnut Creek is safer in a number of ways, even if there is an undiscovered fault beneath it.
blerb
Just so you realise that WC nor Berkeley, nor SF nor any single spot you can name where you are is any less or more likely to be hit. If you're going to actually be motivated by earthquake activity, -away- is the only moving that is going to have a real effect.
Audrey just finished "Breakfast of Champions." She said it tasted weird, but she liked it.
Unless it's the Modern American Novel, you really should do Ginsburg and Ashbery and Flannery O'Connot and Raymond Carver...
what makes me suspicious
Suspicious of what? What does the term "modern American novel" indicate to you?
Tom Bombadil is gay, Christopher Tolkien reveals
What do you call a dinner of penises?
At Lorena's Quick Eats, it's listed under Cold Cuts...
But I don't imagine rorschach teaching these.
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in | 10.20.07 - 1:05 pm | #
Well, I am constrained by the "Modern American Lit" rubric, but I'd love to teach Mein Kampf, especially once I can put it alongside Bush's memoirs.
No American Psycho?
"Atlas Shrugged" is number one on my list of Books I Wouldn't Read Even If I Were Marooned on a Desert Island With Them...
Goldberry is a beard? Who knew?
No, seriously, she just put "Breakfast of Champions" back on the bookshelf.
Now that she's studying music full time, she isn't instructed to read decent novels, so I'm pulling ones from my way back machine for her to enjoy.
Meanwhile, I've been having a blast putting together a reading list for my spring Modern American Literature course--
How's about a survey: What novels should I teach?
rorschach, meh | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 12:37 pm | #
Danielle Steele?
Tom Bombadil is gay, Christopher Tolkien reveals
I knew that flower chick was really a dude.
The people disrupting the telecast of Bill Maher's show last night were 9/11 truth people, yelling about building seven.
Mimi!!!
gary in fl too.
If I was into conspiracies, I'd wonder if they were the same person.
OK. Back to stoopid work.
rors - did you mention Dos Passos?
GOldberry, that's her name. All I could think of was Dingleberry, which tells you where my mind is.
Danielle Steele?
Fuck, that isn't good lit. That's what I read when I wanna get my panties in a wet twist.
Unless it's the Modern American Novel, you really should do Ginsburg and Ashbery and Flannery O'Connot and Raymond Carver...
Molly Ivors, Vaginal-American
It isn't, but I just don't feel like doing poetry and short stories right now for some reason.
(Although I do plan, for the first day of class, which is always hard to fill, to have them read "The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas").
And maybe something by Joan Didion, too.
Ridnik Chrome | 10.20.07 - 1:08 pm | #
Thank you! Joan Didion is an excellent idea.
And I think the cluster of Invisible Man, Native Son, Go Tell It on the Mountain, and Giovanni's Room will be very productive.
rorschach, meh | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 1:08 pm
I'd put Catch-22 on the required list.
rors - did you mention Dos Passos?
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 1:12 pm | #
I've got 42nd Parallel on the alternate reading list.
.Just so you realise that WC nor Berkeley, nor SF nor any single spot you can name where you are is any less or more likely to be hit.
I am sorry, but that is just not true, unexpected faults notwithstanding. There are places where there may be a big quake some timein the next few decades, and there are places where there will be a big quake. Berkeley is one of the latter, and WC is not. And there is also the question of fire and the difficulty of escape from it, which is a much bigger threat in Berkeley than it is in WC> If the whole Hayward fault ruptures, WC will be hit hard enough anyway. But there are still things one can do to reduce the risk of death when it happens without leaving the Bay Area entirely, even if that is in fact the only way to be completely safe.
No Steinbeck?
Thank you! Joan Didion is an excellent idea.
rorschach, meh | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 1:12 pm
Slouching Towards Bethlehem. Short essays perfectly digestible for university students.
Danielle Steele?
Fuck, that isn't good lit. That's what I read when I wanna get my panties in a wet twist.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 1:12 pm |
He said modern american, not good modern American
I'd put Catch-22 on the required list.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins | 10.20.07 - 1:13 pm | #
I've been debating about that. Same with Confederacy of Dunces. There's an American absurdist tradition that often is ignored and effaced...
mein gott, it's gorgeous out.
FOR JUNE!
rors - did you mention Dos Passos?
Good idea. Also consider Djuna Barnes' Nightwood. Maybe some Henry Miller.
The Bible is an incredibly influential book even if it has disgusting ideas and lacks any literary merit.
rootless-e
*.While-U-Wait™
Arthur suggests _Travels with Charley_.
No Steinbeck?
Molly Ivors, Vaginal-American | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 1:14 pm |
Look again.
Grapes of Wrath is on the required list.
I'd put Catch-22 on the required list.
I would, too.
The Shockwave Rider.
rorschach here are my suggestions:
The Stone diaries
The Mammary Plays
The Bluest Eye
anyone read 'Rise & Fall of Third Reich by Shirer.....read it almost a half century ago when I was 17...
never forgot it....
mein gott, it's gorgeous out.
FOR JUNE!
Here, too. It's probably 75 or so.
I'd put Catch-22 on the required list.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
Ditto that. I loved that book.
And how about The Sirens of Titan or Slaughterhouse 5?.
Also consider Djuna Barnes' Nightwood.
The prequel to Morning Wood?
Good idea. Also consider Djuna Barnes' Nightwood. Maybe some Henry Miller.
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in | 10.20.07 - 1:15 pm | #
Nightwood is on the alternate list.
Henry Miller kinda pisses me off--which might actually be a good reason to include something by him...
Arthur suggests _Travels with Charley_.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 1:15 pm | #
Although I understand and respect Arthur's perspective, that book just pisses me right the fuck off.
I wonder what a wrath of grapes would look like?
I don't see how scholars of Modern Amerikan Literature could overlook the oeuvres of Lynne Cheney and I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby.
anyone read 'Rise & Fall of Third Reich by Shirer.....read it almost a half century ago when I was 17...
never forgot it....
funlady
Nor should you. Superb.
Also consider Djuna Barnes' Nightwood.
Excellent!
Although I understand and respect Arthur's perspective, that book just pisses me right the fuck off.
rorschach, meh
I will not repeat what Arthur commented.
The Stone diaries
The Mammary Plays
The Bluest Eye
therealhellkitty | 10.20.07 - 1:16 pm | #
Interesting. Thank you.
I've got Beloved on there mainly because, well, I haven't read The Bluest Eye...
I'm appalled that there's no Archie and Jughead on rory's list.
I wonder what a wrath of grapes would look like?
A hangover.
I wonder what a wrath of grapes would look like?
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
Homepage |
10.20.07 - 1:17 pm | #
those are the week-old fuzzy kind
I have no idea what this list is for, but I'm recommending:
Ana's Story: A Journey of Hope
There is a cute diary over at Teh Great Pumpkin about the upcoming rise of Bill Richardson. One of the commenters said,
"I predict that Richardson will rise like the Hindenberg."
Cracked me up.
And how about The Sirens of Titan or Slaughterhouse 5?.
blerb | 10.20.07 - 1:17 pm | #
The latter is on the list.
I swear, the reading skills in here unnerve me at times!
anyone read 'Rise & Fall of Third Reich by Shirer.....read it almost a half century ago when I was 17...
never forgot it....
funlady
________________________________________
Please say no more! I started it years ago, didn't get all the way through, and am dying to see how it turns out!
I'm appalled that there's no Archie and Jughead on rory's list.
I was about to suggest a graphic novel.
Maus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maus
those are the week-old fuzzy kind
Is this a continuation of sagging testicles from yesterday?
Ana's Story: A Journey of Hope
You are a very bad person.
Have you read it yet?
I've got Beloved on there mainly because, well, I haven't read The Bluest Eye...
rorschach, meh |
Homepage |
10.20.07 - 1:19 pm | #
Oh, you need to it is wonderful.
Gotta represent Chicago: "The Adventures of Augie March" by Saul Bellow and "The Man With the Golden Arm" by Nelson Algren.
I'm appalled that there's no Archie and Jughead on rory's list.
NTodd, Cupcake-American | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 1:19 pm | #
I'm objectively pro-Jughead, but Archie is teh gaiiiii.
You are a very bad person. Have you read it yet?
I must admit that I haven't.
And I probably won't.
Ever.
"The Man With the Golden Arm" by Nelson Algren.
The movie is pretty cool, too.
Gotta represent Chicago: "The Adventures of Augie March" by Saul Bellow and "The Man With the Golden Arm" by Nelson Algren.
Ridnik Chrome | 10.20.07 - 1:21 pm | #
Holy shit! Bellow bores the fuck out of me, but I cannot believe I forgot Algren! He's listed.
Right there with ya, watertiger.
I don't *do* Jenna.
Holy shit! Bellow bores the fuck out of me,
Barbarian!
I don't *do* Jenna.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
Reminds me of when Fergie wrote that book about a tugboat. Audrey was a baby at the time, or I was pregnant, or something, and at least three people gave that book to us.
I regret to say that I never read it to her. It was dense and tedious.
Im my defense, I'll say it was less a lack of reading skills than it was a weak memory and too much laziness to scroll back up the thread and check. But Touche, nonetheless.
I meant to say that I "don't regret..."
ya ya yaya
I'm objectively pro-Jughead, but Archie is teh gaiiiii.
I've always thought Reggie was the secretly gay character in the Archie comics. He's always just a little too well-dressed...
The Enormous Room?
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 1:22 pm | #
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I reread it recently and found its racism and rich-americanism more irritating than I remembered, but it is beautifully written.
67 visitors
I'm sorry I offended you. I like you, visitors.
Holy shit! Bellow bores the fuck out of me,
Barbarian!
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in | 10.20.07 - 1:23 pm | #
Yeah, sorry, but he is boring.
As is Philip K Roth, who writes as though he is the lovechild of Norman Mailer and Woody Allen.
I've always thought Reggie was the secretly gay character in the Archie comics.
I always thought that about Velma or Thelma or whoever she is, in Scooby Doo.
.who writes as though he is the lovechild of Norman Mailer and Woody Allen.
rorschach, meh
Funny, I was going to mention Roth, but I had a feeling you might have something disparaging like that to say about him.
As is Philip K Roth
Neurotic is the word, no?
HoneyBearKelly
Any time. Glad to be of service.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V...h?
v=VutMLnjXTY4
You could put some Bellows and Roth on your alternate list. Some students may appreciate them.
Must go - Arthur wants me to renew his library books, and several other errands. He's on a Korean War kick - Halberstam's last book - and Bridges at Toko Ri are on the list.
.
Also, I would like offer my most profound thanks and congratulations to you all for not going anywhere near the name "John fucking Updike."
How about "Bastard Out of Carolina" for the alternate list?
I've always thought Reggie was the secretly gay character in the Archie comics. He's always just a little too well-dressed...
I've envisioned him as a young Republican, a GOP dirty trickster in training. Well, your thought and mine might just complete the picture.
He's on a Korean War kick - Halberstam's last book - and Bridges at Toko Ri are on the list.
.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 1:29 pm | #
Good stuff, that. Both those works found their way into my dissertation.
Have you guys seen this?
DFA Presidential Poll
Total Votes: 49401 as of Sat, 20 Oct 2007 13:23:45 -0400
Candidate Votes %
Al Gore 14658 29.67%
John Edwards 11328 22.93%
Barack Obama 8476 17.16%
Dennis Kucinich 7128 14.43%
Hillary Clinton 3093 6.26%
Bill Richardson 1836 3.72%
Other 1248 2.53%
Joe Biden 657 1.33%
Mike Gravel 557 1.13%
Christopher Dodd 420 0.85%
And Gore is a WRITE IN vote; his name isn't even mentioned on the poll.
Also, I would like offer my most profound thanks and congratulations to you all for not going anywhere near the name "John fucking Updike."
I am writing a novel about a university professor in Wisconsin. It's called "Rorschach Redux"
Gotta represent Chicago: "The Adventures of Augie March" by Saul Bellow and "The Man With the Golden Arm" by Nelson Algren.
Ridnik Chrome | 10.20.07 - 1:21 pm | #
The Jungle, if u want chicago.
How's about something by Sarah Paretsky?
my favorite chicago novel is the sci-fi distopian:
"Economics of Life" by Gary Becker. A horrifying vision, unsparing, and deadpan.
How about "Bastard Out of Carolina" for the alternate list?
Walla | 10.20.07 - 1:29 pm | #
That's another great idea! Thank you.
I would like offer my most profound thanks and congratulations to you all for not going anywhere near the name "John fucking Updike."
S!
Maus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maus
Richard
Yeah, I loved Maus.
If George Lucas thought he could squeeze a few more dollars out of a "3CPO is gay" announcement, he'd do it in a motherfucking New York minute.
Rorschach,
You know the poem Player Piano by Updike?
I like it.
As is Philip K Roth, who writes as though he is the lovechild of Norman Mailer and Woody Allen.
rorschach, meh | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 1:25 pm | #
If most of your books are going to be semi-autobiographical, you need a far more interesting life than Roth has lead.
If George Lucas thought he could squeeze a few more dollars out of a "3CPO is gay" announcement, he'd do it in a motherfucking New York minute.
Gomez said that because he thinks that it was ridiculous for JK Rowling to comment on Dumbledore.
I tend to agree. There's no need to explain.
As is Philip K Roth
What about Philip K Dick?
I also would recommend "Millie's Book", co-written by Barbara Bush and a dog.
I am writing a novel about a university professor in Wisconsin. It's called "Rorschach Redux"
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in | 10.20.07 - 1:30 pm | #
I'm gonna come over there and kick your ass for that one.
The Jungle, if u want chicago.
How's about something by Sarah Paretsky?
my favorite chicago novel is the sci-fi distopian:
"Economics of Life" by Gary Becker. A horrifying vision, unsparing, and deadpan.
rootless-e | 10.20.07 - 1:30 pm | #
The Jungle's on there. Paretsky? Meh. I'll have to read Economics of Life.
The Good War
bu Studs Terkel
f most of your books are going to be semi-autobiographical, you need a far more interesting life than Roth has lead.
Masturbating in the bathroom and having your ejaculate hit the lightbulb is not interesting?
Masturbating in the bathroom and having your ejaculate hit the lightbulb is not interesting?
Gomez said that because he thinks that it was ridiculous for JK Rowling to comment on Dumbledore.
Well, somebody had asked, and something came up with the 6th movie screenplay that was not in line with his character.
I don't think it's inappropriate for her to comment.
The becker book recommendation was a joke, sorry.
What about Philip K Dick?
NTodd, Cupcake-American | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 1:33 pm | #
D'oh!
How the fuck did I forget him?
What one novel to choose, though?
The becker book recommendation was a joke, sorry.
We're very serious around here. Atrios tends to ban people who are funny.
If most of your books are going to be semi-autobiographical, you need a far more interesting life than Roth has lead.
Okay, I'm off on my secret mission. Later, kids!
Yeah, I loved Maus.
It's funny that a guy named rorschach doesn't have Watchmen on his list.
Masturbating in the bathroom and having your ejaculate hit the lightbulb is not interesting?
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in | 10.20.07 - 1:33 pm | #
Well, it's interesting to me, at exactly that moment, but two seconds later, I'm done, and I don't go around telling people about it, is the thing.
What one novel to choose, though?
rorschach, meh
_The Man in the High Castle_
I would like offer my most profound thanks and congratulations to you all for not going anywhere near the name "John fucking Updike."
Or Don DeLillo
It's funny that a guy named rorschach doesn't have Watchmen on his list.
Richard |
It's on mine.
It's funny that a guy named rorschach doesn't have Watchmen on his list.
Richard | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 1:36 pm | #
I have taught that, in fact!
Well, it's interesting to me, at exactly that moment, but two seconds later, I'm done, and I don't go around telling people about it, is the thing.
So you're not like NTodd? He created a blog about it.
Hurm.
I don't think it's inappropriate for her to comment.
I don't have a dog in that hunt - I really don't care, but I'm fine with it remaining a mystery. My kid just shrugged and said, "Whatever."
It's all good.
Or Don DeLillo
Ridnik Chrome | 10.20.07 - 1:36 pm | #
DeLillo is on his list - but I also get too bored reading DeLillo.
Updike makes an eloquent case for nuking suburban connecticut.
Hurm
I waited too long. Arthur is now asleep on my foot.
I don't think it's inappropriate for her to comment.
Suddenly, it becomes quite apparent why Dumbledore kept Hagrid around. Big shoes...
I have taught that, in fact!
Alan Moore is a genius.
_The Man in the High Castle_
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 1:36 pm | #
That's kinda what I was thinking. But then there's also "The World Jones Made."
.How the fuck did I forget him?
What one novel to choose, though?
rorschach, meh
Funny, I was afraid to mention him too, since you pointedly called him Pillip K Roth. If I had to put my vote in for just one of his novels, I'd say Ubik. Vanilla Sky was a cheap knockoff of that story. A Scanner Darkly is pretty awesome too.
Updike makes an eloquent case for nuking suburban connecticut.
Some John Cheever would be good.
What one novel to choose, though?
Do NTodds Dream of Electric Cocks?
Neil Gaiman's sandman run. Classic. Anybody here see the movie adaptation of Stardust?
Updike is like Velveeta cheese to Cheever, velveeta cheever.
Upstairs...
My kid is off to see some Night Before Christmas movie in 3D. Should I be concerned?
Vanilla Sky was a cheap knockoff of that story
Actually, Vanilla Sky was a cheap knockoff of Open Your Eyes...
Do NTodds Dream of Electric Cocks?
NTodd, Cupcake-American | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 1:39 pm | #
That one is, shall we say, "too easy."
My kid is off to see some Night Before Christmas movie in 3D. Should I be concerned?
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 1:40 pm | #
Nightmare Before Christmas. Tim Burton. Genius.
Be not afraid.
Alan Moore is a genius.
Richard
Absolutely. Anything he writes is superb.
U. K Leguin: Dispossed.
At least a great historical document of a time before Dennis Kucinich was at the far left end of the imaginable political spectrum.
.Actually, Vanilla Sky was a cheap knockoff of Open Your Eyes...
NTodd, Cupcake-American
Was that book written before Ubik? Because if it wasn't, then it is a knockoff of Ubik, or vice versa.
U. K Leguin: Dispossed.
At least a great historical document of a time before Dennis Kucinich was at the far left end of the imaginable political spectrum.
rootless-e | 10.20.07 - 1:42 pm | #
The Dispossessed is already on the list.
Well, it looks like my birthday could extend into the weekend. Spouse just made me a very nice breakfast.
DeLillo is on his list - but I also get too bored reading DeLillo.
My bad. DeLillo irritates me. He's one of those writers who just can't stop telling you what a know-it-all he is.....
That's kinda what I was thinking. But then there's also "The World Jones Made."
rorschach, meh
Is it in print?
The Dispossessed is already on the list.
rorschach, meh | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 1:42 pm | #
Now you tell me.
I laughed when I saw
Trout Fishing in America (1967)
what a period piece. How about "Been down so long, it looks like up to me"?
Indeed, if you are leveraged by a factor of X, a fall of N% in the borrowed assets becomes an XN% loss to you (or to your investors). So many of the destructive children of Wall St. can't seem to do this kind of math.
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