I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Flavin!
Well then it must be true, if Novakula says it is.
Hey, lady!!!1
Novakula - you mean there are people who still care what he says?
It's a shame. The French love him.
TERRA TERRA TERRA
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/
20070..._6PEQgATu2s0NUE
Flavin!
Gonna do the tighten up
TIGHTEN UP!
Gonna do the tighten up
TIGHTEN UP!
Gonna do the tighten up
TIGHTEN UP!
Gonna do it to the left
Gonna do it to the right
TIGHTEN UP!
how come 89 vistors and only 6 comments?
how many CIA agents had to be outed to give us that information?>
how come 89 vistors and only 6 comments?
Everyone beat us to the Jerry Lewis jokes.
Hey nice LAAAAAddddYYYY!!!!
how come 89 vistors and only 6 comments?
1) Fresh air
2) Sunshine
3) Multiple NSA agents on break (see #1 & #2)
the French will be devastated.
Hey nice LAAAAAddddYYYY!!!!
The Kenosha Kid
now i get it.
Waist deep in the Big Muddy
And the big fool says to push on.
Waist deep in the Big Muddy
And the big fool says to push on.
Waist deep! Neck deep! Soon even a
Tall man'll be over his head, we're
Waist deep in the Big Muddy!
And the big fool says to push on!
Rats, Steve beat me to it.
Chimpy, you're searching the wrong caves. Bin Laden's in Guyana.
My first was the greatest first of all the firsts EVAH!
Over at FDL Sestak is gettinig trashed for his vote for the war.
Dean's gonna be crushed... well, maybe not.
Over at FDL Sestak is gettinig trashed for his vote for the war.
As well he should
Over at FDL Sestak is gettinig trashed for his vote for the war.
But only in the most respectful tones, right?
Many people say if Novakula left our universe, they would not mind.
Valerie Plame-Wilson on CSPAN2 now.
Maybe Pombo can take his seat....
BTW, anyone catch the rerun of Letterman last night?
It was from their "Impressionists' Week" and John Byner was on. Did his "Ed Sullivan Show" routine, including Dino and Jerry.
Not bad, and he looked good.
The visitor counter reads the same on all threads.
That's why.
OT--
Holy crapola!
I just noticed that I've been nominated for the 2006 Koufax Award "Best New Blog" catagory. I am deeply flattered, and honored to be in such heady company.
I guess all I can say is-- go vote!
--mf
BTW, over at FDL, I forced Joe Wilson to give it up and take his kids swimming.
Advantage - DAVE™©!!!
Rats, Steve beat me to it.
V for Virginia
But you and TKK get more style points.
ho has been criticized on ethical grounds, will not seek a 16th term next year.
16 terms in office? How can one stay true to his ethics when holding power for that long?
Yet, people hate the idea of term limits. Why, I do not understand.
I must eat now. bbl. 
Breaking:
The Rowsdowers may have found their dream house.
The slanty shanty!
I just noticed that I've been nominated for the 2006 Koufax Award "Best New Blog" catagory. I am deeply flattered, and honored to be in such heady company.
Huh. I thought they'd ended.
Let me guess -- another FBI 'informant' suggests to some hapless wankers that they could be some bad-ass dudes if they did the Jihad thang? The extraordinary luck that all these 'plots' are overheard by informants and the groups are watched for a year or so and busted JUST BEFORE they were going actually get their hands on anything like materials to make bombs, uniforms to disguise themselves, passports to be able to board the planes they were going to blow up by mixing their shampoo and toothpaste, you know -- evidence beyond 'I heard him say he wanted to burn the mother down!'
Americans are functionally illiterate.
Stepping back thread for a moment.
Secretive orders bother me whether they are Fraternal groups like the OES or Dick Cheney's Energy Commission.
The visitor counter reads the same on all threads.
That's why.
plantsman, plant geek
i knew that. someone has to be the side kick.
Vicki!
The middler schoolers in my neighborhood LOVE AL GORE, I tell you!
Yesterday they had a fundraiser for the homeless, and the kids danced, played music, etc. Most of them got up and read poetry or other writings. One kid got up and asked the crowd if they believed in global warming...most raised hands. Do you believe humans cause it, again, all but two hands went up. Then he said, "George Bush is the worst president we've ever had....we need Al Gore, maybe he will run." The crowd went fucking WILD, kids and adults. This is a close-in suburb with lots of money, nike people, etc.
If the kids like him, one must assume the parents do as well.
We have always been at war with Eurasia.
It was an honor to not even be nominated.
80 percent of U.S. families did not buy or read a book last year.
I find that a tad difficult to believe.
trifecta,
70 percent of books published do not earn back their advance.
70 percent of the books published do not make a profit.
Those two examples have lot more to do with the structure of the publishing industry, than with American illiteracy.
Most albums don't earn back their advance, either.
Why isn't Novak on trial for treason?
I find that a tad difficult to believe.
smalfish, tinfoil hatted | 06.02.07 - 12:59 pm | #
Me too. Someone's buying those "Left Behind" books.
Boy. People bitch about Atrios' ads.
Raw Story's got ads for ultimate fighting.
Too bad.
He was a stand-up guy of manly humor, universally admired.
Why isn't Novak on trial for treason?
Terry C - End Bush's War Now! | 06.02.07 - 1:00 pm | #
I hear he has powerful friends....
BookExpo07 on CSpan2, Krugman is coming up.
and at the homepage, CIA agents are asking for the Rule of Law back.
Its numbers. 20% buy books. That is 60 million people. 240 million dont.
Boy. Holier-than-thou busybodies bitch about Atrios' ads.
Fixed yr typo.
16 terms in office? How can one stay true to his ethics when holding power for that long?
smalfish, tinfoil hatted
He's a Republican. What does he need ethics for?
if Al Gore were to run, i predict he would lose. he said it himself, he's not a very good politician.
"I find that a tad difficult to believe.
smalfish, tinfoil hatted"
Actually I don't. What would have been interesting was a break down by age groups.
I cannot think of anyone I know under the age of 40 at the moment that has discussed a book with me or indicated they read.
Thanks, Phila.
I knew I was missing something...
80 percent of U.S. families did not buy or read a book last year.
I find that a tad difficult to believe.
smalfish, tinfoil hatted
I don't. That's why this country is in the mess it's in.
Oh, deep in my heart,
I do believe
We shall overcome, some day.
Its numbers. 20% buy books. That is 60 million people. 240 million dont.
trifecta | Homepage | 06.02.07 - 1:01 pm | #
Numbers arrived at by whom, using what methodology?
Raw Story's got ads for ultimate fighting.
Zap Rowsdower
Ultimate Fighing Kicks Ass.
actually, it's kind of gay.
He's a Republican. What does he need ethics for?
I don't but into the idea that your unethical just because your republican. Sixteen terms for anyone can corrupt.
Numbers arrived at by whom, using what methodology?
Phila | Homepage | 06.02.07 - 1:04 pm | #
I couldn't find the stats at the original link.
Novakula says Jerry Lewis won't seek another term.
The French love him anyway...
As far as I can tell, trifecta's statistics come from a vanity publishing house.
Probably best to take 'em with a grain of salt.
I don't but into the idea that you're unethical just because you're republican. Sixteen terms for anyone can corrupt.
smalfish, tinfoil hatted
Yeah, you're right.
Biden is a good example.
Probably best to take 'em with a grain of salt.
Good advice. Best to take almost everything read with a grain of salt.
"my new Pac is going to rule. George Allen and I are going to dominate K Street"-Jerry Lewis
Probably best to take 'em with a grain of salt.
Phila
good advice in all matters. "the path to truth is a pathless land." some indian dude
George Allen and I
Talk about a meeting of the minds.
Fucking Joe Wilson - says he's leaving, and then he's right back again!
I don't. That's why this country is in the mess it's in.
Terry C - End Bush's War Now! | 06.02.07 - 1:03 pm | #
I don't want to be a dick...but the tendency to swallow stats like these uncritically, simply because they bolster one's prejudices, is at least as big a problem in America as illiteracy.
I wouldn't take them as absolute and agree with the grain of salt thing.
But the numbers certainly don't indicate any different. Bestsellers often aren't selling that many copies.
If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him. Then announce that yet another Al-Queda #3 has been eliminated by our glorious armed forces.
Sestak's answering a few more questions now... maybe he needed a bathroom break.
By the way, what the fuck ever happened to the DC Madam's little list of customers???
I want to know.
"swallow stats like these uncritically, simply because they bolster one's prejudices"
Er, no.
By the way, what the fuck ever happened to the DC Madam's little list of customers???
I want to know.
Cheney and co got to the keepers of the list and made it a point that mums the word.
Fucking Joe Wilson - says he's leaving, and then he's right back again!
Go get 'em, tiger!
I don't want to be a dick...but the tendency to swallow stats like these uncritically, simply because they bolster one's prejudices, is at least as big a problem in America as illiteracy.
That's not being a dick. We're very good at giving ourselves too much credit...and not enough at the same time.
But the numbers certainly don't indicate any different. Bestsellers often aren't selling that many copies.
trifecta | Homepage | 06.02.07 - 1:09 pm | #
Again, the 80-percent figure is screwy. At the least, they've gotta be defining "book" very narrowly.
Zap, that's deep.
No, wait, not deep, what's the word? Crazy! Yeah, that's it.
Hi
gwb=drf
Over at FDL Sestak is gettinig trashed for his vote for the war.
*
oy
he is from my neck of the woods (just over the state line) and a real favorite. I'll go catch up on FDL.
No, wait, not deep, what's the word? Crazy! Yeah, that's it.
I live to give!
What I'd really like to know, though is, WHERE ARE THE FUCKING SUBPOENAED EMAILS?
I get almost all my books at a used book store, or check them out at the library... I don't remember the last time I bought a "new" book.
Cheney and co got to the keepers of the list and made it a point that mums the word.
smalfish
*
that's what I figured would happen when Madam sent it to corporate media for safekeeping...har de har har
I love used books.
gwb:drf
BTW, in case you missed yesterday's catblogging...
Cheney and co got to the keepers of the list and made it a point that mums the word.
This is an easy thing to do when you've got 8 billion dollars sitting on pallets in the warehouse.
Mark Twain: The War Prayer.
"O Lord our Father, our young patriots, idols of our hearts, go forth to battle -- be Thou near them! With them -- in spirit -- we also go forth from the sweet peace of our beloved firesides to smite the foe. O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it -- for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.
(*After a pause.*) "Ye have prayed it; if ye still desire it, speak! The messenger of the Most High waits!"
It was believed afterward that the man was a lunatic, because there was no sense in what he said.
Wouldn't you think that somebody at ABC would leak the fucking thing?
From my mother's sleep I fell into the State,
And I hunched in its belly till my wet fur froze.
Six miles from earth, loosed from its dream of life,
I woke to black flak and the nightmare fighters.
When I died they washed me out of the turret with a hose.
-- Randall Jarrell
16 terms in office? How can one stay true to his ethics when holding power for that long?
One can only assume, that like others of his kind, he has extremely low-maintenance ethics.
afternoon moonbats
the sun is still shining here, glorious weather and the cats are happy, well Heidi is, she loves the warmth and dislikes the cold.
By the way, what the fuck ever happened to the DC Madam's little list of customers???
I want to know.
angryspittle
Most of 'em got off.
ICKY THUMP!!
This song is great.
its 6.13pm here and its still incredibly sunny.
I love summer!
Oh, dear... looks like my question to Wilson got me in trouble with the hall monitors!
Heidi will spend long time in the sun then get too hot and flop down in the shade.
she repeats this several times.
Oh, dear... looks like my question to Wilson got me in trouble with the hall monitors!
I hope you know that this will go down on your permanent record.
Oh, dear... looks like my question to Wilson got me in trouble with the hall monitors!
dave™© |
So what was the question? Not wanting to go dig through an FDL comment thread last thing before bed...
I don't but into the idea that your unethical just because your republican. Sixteen terms for anyone can corrupt.
smalfish
The idea of Term Limits is a hoax on a number of levels. It assumes that one starts off saintly & becomes evil the longer they occupy an office, exs. a doctor becomes worse as does a school teacher, a corporate head etc. etc.
For elected officials, there is no recognition of the complex responsibilities of the office, ex. because Al Gore was around for a good # of years, he had time to master knowledge of the internet & global warming. The same is true for economics, health care, military expenditures etc.
Short time in office makes the elected official more receptive to the lures of corporate interests: 1) Because he doesn't know much & their PR is really well done 2) someone around for only 6-8 years is always thinking of their next career & the biggest employer with nice paychecks is the corporate world.
Sure there are a lot of deadwood/corrupt elected officials. The way to limit the damage is independent redistricting, take the money out of politics etc.
I get almost all my books at a used book store, or check them out at the library... I don't remember the last time I bought a "new" book.
bloggus erectus | 06.02.07 - 1:15 pm | #
There's that, and there's also the fact that there's no obvious correlation between book-buying a literacy. There are all sorts of cultural aspects to reading books, or deciding whether or not to be seen as someone who reads books. It'd also be interesting to know how many people have time to read, whether they want to or not (cf. trifecta's figures on books that don't get read all the way through).
e-mails? e-mails? We have no e-mails of the kind you requested that you are allowed to read, that still exist, that mean what it looks like they mean -- which is to say, out of context; and by that I mean in a post 9-11 world. Why are you bothering me a bout e-mails? Just ask me and I'll tell you that I fully intend to continue keeping all the little children safe because children have got a future. And when a child has got a future there is no reason to delve into the past. Which is why I am signing this historic executive legislation that streamlines the President's job and gives the President the flexibility he needs to do what he sees it is his duty to do because it is necessary to keep America safe! ----AHHHHHHHH get it off!
Oh, dear... looks like my question to Wilson got me in trouble with the hall monitors!
Roh roh.
That's why I don't post there very often.
I get almost all my books at a used book store, or check them out at the library... I don't remember the last time I bought a "new" book.
For that you have to look at who's running that operation. I would bet dollars to doughnuts some of the board members are on the list as well.
last book I brought was Ken MacLeod's The Execution Channel
I get almost all my books at a used book store, or check them out at the library... I don't remember the last time I bought a "new" book.
bloggus erectus | 06.02.07 - 1:15 pm |
Last one I bought new was a self-published expose of the collusion between the Hong Kong property developers and the government from a former insider...
Isn't Novakula in prison yet?
Most of 'em got off.
BaDUMdahn!
i buy some books new, get some from charity shops or used book stalls and most are given as Christmas and birthday presents
We're gonna go look at a house.
Later!
i brought a lot of books for my course of course.
which is now finished heh
Most of 'em got off.
BaDUMdahn!
catalexis the fatalistic
Ewe my new bes fwen 
That story about the big pig shot by a kid in Alabama cracks me up.
most of my library is shown here
Major terrorist plot foiled
Little known fact about the power Joe Biden has at home:
In 2005 the DEM governor placed the GOPer Attorney General (the proven unethical Jane Brady) into a judgeship, ostensibly to place Joe's son Beau as AG. Such a stink was started over this that Beau had to wait to run for AG, which he did in '06.
That's why I don't post there very often.
I had the honor of being the first on a thread where Arianna was the guest. It was proceeded by a post about the dust-up between Majikthese (sp) and the Blithering Idiot Imitating Altmouse over women's breasts. So naturally, I asked Arianna to "Show us your tits!"
The hall monitors were NOT amused.
O, it is excellent To have a giant’s strength! But it is tyrannous To use it like a giant.
~William Shakespeare
The hall monitors were NOT amused.
They should show us their tits, too.
will return shortly, have to set the table for dinner
Fake terrorist plot used as distraction...
Fixed your typos.
I had the honor of being the first on a thread where Arianna was the guest. It was proceeded by a post about the dust-up between Majikthese (sp) and the Blithering Idiot Imitating Altmouse over women's breasts. So naturally, I asked Arianna to "Show us your tits!"
dave™©
Major terrorist plot foiled
Was the perps from blackwater, or custerbattles?
For tits, you gotta have the beads. Otherwise it's insulting and demeaning. 24 glass beads, preferably.
So naturally, I asked Arianna to "Show us your tits!
The hall monitors were NOT amused.
Don't they like tits?
Last one I bought new was a self-published expose of the collusion between the Hong Kong property developers and the government from a former insider...
Tom -
*
that gives me an idea!
I am now an expert of sorts on land use and the sleaze oozing between developers and the government in DE.
I was enjoying the authors on c-span but Russell Simmons is boring. He's still on in the other room and I have no idea what he's been blabbing about cos he lost me while thanking the other authors. dang!
So I pimped this endlessly yesterday, but they're rerunning yesterday's 10@10 right now where they played "Sgt. Pepper's" in its entirety, from a 40-year-old vinyl copy.
http://www.shipbrook.com/onnotice/
he he!
The best part about that 40-year-old copy of Sgt. Pepper is all the pops and crackles you hear from the years of playing.
Esp. during the fade out of "Day in the Life"... brought back a lot of memories!
Zap! The house looks very nice. I love yellow houses. Hope it works out.
Taking a break from cleaning the garage. Yuk. Of course, it has to be 89 degrees out there.
Russell Simmons was obviously more bored than footloose, ended by reading some of the notes he was given to speak from;
"Is it over!" with gleeful lilt.
most of my library is shown here
Moonbootica, Graduee | Homepage | 06.02.07 - 1:25 pm | #
I did one of those too, figuring that if my house ever burned down (again), I'd know what I had.
Haven't kept up with it very well, though...
Don't they like tits?
They wouldn't like it over here then.
So naturally, I asked Arianna to "Show us your tits!
The hall monitors were NOT amused
What do they have against passerines?
Major terrorist plot foiled
ccokz
More crying "wolf".
http://www.shipbrook.com/onnotice/
he he!
Terry C
*
What a hoot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am stealing that one.
Major terrorist plot foiled
Aluminum?
The best part about that 40-year-old copy of Sgt. Pepper is all the pops and crackles you hear from the years of playing.
I was pissed that they removed the manufactured click at the beginning of the album for the CD master. But I'm still not gonna set up my fucking turntable.
The best part about that 40-year-old copy of Sgt. Pepper is all the pops and crackles you hear from the years of playing.
Erm, ever heard of "record cleaner"?
Seriously, my old vinyl has hardly a crackle.
Seriously, my old vinyl has hardly a crackle.
JR, kerosene and a match
You didn't use yours as an impromptu frisbee?
Seriously, my old vinyl has hardly a crackle.
I haven't listened to my old vinyl in more than ten years. Maybe even fifteen years. I can't see parting with them and I can't understand keeping them.
At least he does yoga.
French Open on NBC
Maria Sharapova
Hubba hubba.
You didn't use yours as an impromptu frisbee?
ellroon
My father would have killed me, even if I had had such an impulse.
Major terrorist plot foiled
Was the perps from blackwater, or custerbattles?
"An undisclosed location"
You didn't use yours as an impromptu frisbee?
ellroon
My father would have killed me, even if I had had such an impulse.
I used to live on a hill overlooking RT 12 in New Hampshire and on impulse, a few buddies of mine and I decided to take all my older brothers and sisters albums and fling them at trucks going by on the highway.
I'm appalled at the behavior now.
My father would have killed me, even if I had had such an impulse.
JR, kerosene and a match
Well... I have still have my original. Records are often now being collected just for the album covers btw.
Valerie Pflame has the most beautiful hair I've ever seen.
You didn't use yours as an impromptu frisbee?
I remember being in charge of the music at parties where we'd stack records one on top of the other... not to mention the people that would decide a big round piece of plastic made a perfect place to set their beers.
Memories...
I made some alterations.
Wonder if it will come up:
http://www.shipbrook.com/onnotice/
Valerie Pflame has the most beautiful hair I've ever seen.
That is SO gay!
Finally some one thkg Plame for filing suit for the rights to publish her story.
Records are often now being collected just for the album covers btw.
ellroon
Vinyl got no DRM, folks.
My father would have killed me, even if I had had such an impulse.
JR, kerosene and a match | Homepage | 06.02.07 - 1:38 pm | #
My parents treated records and books horribly, whereas I treat 'em like an archivist. Go figure.
One of the horrors of dealing in rare records (which I do as a sideline) is explaining to people that records aren't worth anything when they have all those gouges in 'em.
Then there's the baby-boomer protest that "I bought this copy of 'Sgt. Pepper's' when it came out." To which my response has always been, "So did 8 million other people."
Vinyl got no DRM, folks.
The album collection I have now would be worth digitizing. But I don't even own a player anymore.
I made some alterations.
Wonder if it will come up:
http://www.shipbrook.com/onnotice/
Terry C
"Please note: If you wish to share an "On Notice" board you've created, please right-click on the image (control-click if you're a Mac user) and select "Save As...", then upload it for rehosting elsewhere. If you try to hotlink the "On Notice" boards, other people will be invited to ridicule you.
This advice has been ignored by 34291 people who don't "get it"."
I was too young for Sgt. Pepper's, but I did have "Monkees Headquarters," which came out a week or so before.
We played the shit out of it on a little plastic phonograph with a built-in speaker. I had that copy for years.
Records were not generally treated gently in those days...
Well... I have still have my original. Records are often now being collected just for the album covers btw.
ellroon
I've got about 200 LPs in the basement as my last job before I went on a 20 year maternity leave was at a record shop. My kid though just brought home movie discs? that were shown on projectors? Seven Brides, Greatest Show on Earth, African Queen...
Vinyl got no DRM, folks.
MP3s ain't got DRM, either.
I know there's no chance to divert local politicians from trumpeting either Vanity Laws or risk-free and depressingly popular Nanny Laws. Both are irresistible forms of bland and insidious faux-populism that amount to mild demagoguery.
Thus, they'll passionately support a law forbidding school bus drivers from starting vehicles in the presence of any child wearing a scarf, and name it Isadora's Law in honor of poor little Isadora, whose neck got broken because her dangling scarf got wrapped around the axle of a moving school bus.
Her grieving parents will attend the signing ceremony for Isadora's Law, wearing whatever color ribbon hasn't been taken-- although I don't think there are any individual colors left, and the multi-color ones get too confusing to memorize. The local news will reverently cover this event.
And then it's on to the all-important ordinance forbidding the sale of cooked chicken with skin still attached; haven't we, as a society, matured beyond the point where any sane and responsible citizen would want to consume toxic chicken skin?
But I digress. One ordinance I'd love to see would require public libraries to coordinate with public transit authorities to ensure that every public library is accessible by public transportation.
As one of the few non-driving adult Amerikans around, the worst part about living in my pleasant Havertown neighborhood is that the local library is well beyond walking distance, and is on a highway not serviced by public transit. FWIW, there are several bus lines and other public transit in the area, just none running near the library. 
I'm told they have a "shut-in" service, but I'm a little embarrassed to see if they'd service my able-bodied ass. I have at least a half-dozen books from Barnes & Noble that I haven't gotten to yet, because I tend to buy books as I might've borrowed them.
Maybe I'll see if Sestak is amenable to a "Little Brøther's Law" to cure this trivial but noteworthy defect.
Here we are. Seems you have to save it and thumbsnap it:
http://thumbsnap.com/v/NzAWgWTq.jpg
The album collection I have now would be worth digitizing. But I don't even own a player anymore.
smalfish
A friend of mine could fix that for you.
Interested in a Mapleknoll, provide your own air compressor?
OT, if anyone would like to suggest movies or books that made a huge impact in their progressive attitudes today, I'm interested in making a list.
Not only to share what resonated with you but also to have as a reference for those who do not know American history, have no clue about WWII, the Geneva Convention, Habeas Corpus and why the Bush administration is so horrifically awful.
http://rantsfromtherookery.blogs...-are-
today.html
MP3s ain't got DRM, either.
NTodd
They will, soon enough.
By the way, what the fuck ever happened to the DC Madam's little list of customers???
Not enough Democrats to write a balanced story.
OK, I'm going to make myself some toast with black olive tapenade.
Anyone want some?
hello moonbats
MP3s ain't got DRM, either.
NTodd
They will, soon enough.
JR, kerosene and a match
Doubt it.
OT, if anyone would like to suggest movies or books that made a huge impact in their progressive attitudes today, I'm interested in making a list.
That we read/saw as a kid, or just in general?
Interested in a Mapleknoll, provide your own air compressor?
Hunh?
Plame has moved to Santa Fe. Tena will be pleased.
My "On Notice" list...
SIMELLLLLLLLS!
I saw All The President's Men in a drive in theater in my parents Pinto in 1976 when I was seven.
Have been a flaming liberal pretty much since that point.
if anyone would like to suggest movies or books that made a huge impact in their progressive attitudes today, I'm interested in making a list.
Movies:
Grand Illusion
Paths of Glory
Dr. Strangelove
Books:
Johnny Got His Gun
These come to mind immediately...
OT, if anyone would like to suggest movies or books that made a huge impact in their progressive attitudes today, I'm interested in making a list.
Help me out here, NTodd: is the correct title "Letters From A Birmingham Jail," by Martin Luther King, Jr.?
SIMELLLLLLLLS!
Skin-NER!!!
momentous; Dr. Strangelove.
Plame has moved to Santa Fe. Tena will be pleased.
Ruth
She was great. I loved her To-do list and the fact that they paid to move 6,000 lbs of books.
Anything that made you as you are today. Not counting porn.
MP3s ain't got DRM, either.
NTodd
They will, soon enough.
JR, kerosene and a match
Doubt it.
NTodd, CyberQuaker | Homepage | 06.02.07 - 1:47 pm | #
Easy, boyz. Make like a one armed guitarist and don't fret --- http://tunebite.com/en/remove_dr..._drm/
index.html
OT, if anyone would like to suggest movies or books that made a huge impact in their progressive attitudes today, I'm interested in making a list.
I can't recall one thing that made me a liberal. In fact, I never realised I was liberal until after Mission Accomplished.
I saw All The President's Men in a drive in theater in my parents Pinto in 1976 when I was seven.
Have been a flaming liberal pretty much since that point.
trifecta
What the hell HAPPENED to Woodward and Bernstein since then?
Speaking of Tena... has she rejoined us?
.
MP3s ain't got DRM, either.
NTodd
They will, soon enough
I don't much care, my music player besides mp3s plays ogg and flac files.
Have been a flaming liberal pretty much since that point.
trifecta
Robert Redford has that effect on people.
There was some book I read in jr. high called something like "Handbook for Student Radicals" or something.
Also, the last two or so years of the great Dan O'Neill's comic strip "Odd Bodkins" had a profound influence, as did all the underground cartoonists.
Gotta run, but I'm leaving this thread up so I can copy the suggestions. Thanks.
dave tm -
I tried to post this comment on your blog, but I couldn't figure out how to do it:
"That is teh funny. I love the last two items.
gwb:drf"
So go look at dave's blog, moonbats.
gwb:drf
OT, if anyone would like to suggest movies or books that made a huge impact in their progressive attitudes today, I'm interested in making a list.
I saw "Forbidden Games" several times as a kid, which made a huge impression on me. I'd recommend it highly.
My "On Notice" list...
dave™©
Lawrence of Arabia
Winterset
.
Woodward always has been a paleocon conservative. Bernstein has had writer's block. An entire generation of reporters missed the point when they tried to follow in their footsteps and get Clinton for blowjobs to get a movie made about them.
I love the last two items.
Thanks!
You didn't use yours as an impromptu frisbee? | ellroon
Funny, in most ways I'm very much an Oscar, and naturally at odds with Felixes. But I still remember an argument I had with my sister c. 1969, because she thought it was "stupid" to try and handle LPs by the edges, carefully dust off the needle with a stylus brush, etc.
She thought that was far too precious, and that good old records were friendly and familiar objects that could, or should, stand ordinary handling.
PS: There's an article on Salon.com entitled "Why is 'Sgt. Pepper' so overhyped?" by a David Marchese. Is there a chance in Hell I'm going to see what's on his mind with a leading headline like that? I think not. 
As I've mentioned before, there have always been counter-iconoclasts who apparently are genuinely pissed off at artists with feet of clay achieving iconic status. I simply prefer to avoid being enlightened by them.
if anyone would like to suggest movies or books that made a huge impact in their progressive attitudes today, I'm interested in making a list.
Ken MacLeod's The Star Fraction and The Stone Canal really opened my eye to the fact socialism does not always have to be statist, also go me onto Kevin Carson - Mutualist Blog: Free Market Anti-Capitalism
Richard Morgan Market Forces as well.
no real movies as such come to mind at the moment.
Other things that no doubt affected my political leanings grouwing up (aside from my parents, of course): "Star Trek" and "Twilight Zone."
Both deeply rooted in the classic "liberal democracy" philosophy of the day.
Hunh?
smalfish
Mapleknoll turntable, air-bearing arm, lead platter, only 17 ever made of this model.
However, you need to provide it with compressed air for the air-bearing.
I got a great brainwashing in public school.
Grapes of Wrath
Of Mice & Men
The Octopus
The Jungle
Red Badge of Courage
Of course that was back in time when California had a public school system.
Help me out here, NTodd: is the correct title "Letters From A Birmingham Jail," by Martin Luther King, Jr.?
Diane C. Barking-Mad
It's not a book.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Let...Birmingham_Jail
if anyone would like to suggest movies or books that made a huge impact in their progressive attitudes today, I'm interested in making a list.
A Hard Days Night
M*A*S*H (the series)
Afternoon, all.
Haloscan or the intertubes has really been a bitch to me today.
Tena is house-shopping in Santa Fe.
And Arabella, how are you ? did you survive?
Why is 'Sgt. Pepper' so overhyped?
He's about 40 years late with that. Richard Goldstein bitched about it when it came out.
Mapleknoll turntable, air-bearing arm, lead platter, only 17 ever made of this model.
See, now this is the definition of ELITIST!
Doubt it.
NTodd
Well, I'm all for killing and eating the entire membership of the RIAA myself...
Hi-ho, Steverino!
You're On Notice!
Help me out here, NTodd: is the correct title "Letters From A Birmingham Jail," by Martin Luther King, Jr.?
Diane C. Barking-Mad
It's not a book.
Right, it's literally a letter. I had to read it before my frosh year of college--oddly, never read it before.
Anything that made you as you are today. Not counting porn.
ellroon | Homepage | 06.02.07 - 1:51 pm | #
It's tough. My family is pretty far left at least as far back as my grandparents, who were communists and rabid anti-imperialists. So it'd be hard to pick out one influence. Walt Kelly's "Pogo" would be a big one, though, and Philip K. Dick's books, both of which I started reading at a very young age and are staunchly humanist and compassionate.
Movie-wise, "Forbidden Games" would be right up there.
Mapleknoll turntable, air-bearing arm, lead platter, only 17 ever made of this model.
However, you need to provide it with compressed air for the air-bearing.
JR
Dude, get a fucking iPod, for crying out loud.
Have I Got News For You, been watching that since I was in primary school heh
Drop the Dead Donkey
Brass Eye and The Day Today (Chris Morris is a genius! he totally skewers the media).
The Killing Fields
Well, I'm all for killing and eating the entire membership of the RIAA myself...
I doubt they would taste very good. Not without a lot of tabasco.
I'm all for killing and eating the entire membership of the RIAA myself...
I ain't eating that!
Mix it in with the hog slop...
It's not a book.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Let...Birmingham_Jail
jac, not NTodd
Ah, exactly right! Thanks, jac.
That piece gave me serious whiplash, it did, and I think reading it changed me in a really deep way.
Brass Eye and The Day Today (Chris Morris is a genius! he totally skewers the media).
Moonbootica, Graduee | Homepage | 06.02.07 - 1:58 pm | #
The paedophile episode of Brass Eye is amazing...
Well, I'm all for killing and eating the entire membership of the RIAA myself...
Melamine laced meat would probably be better for you. But I like yer style.
So, Simels is on notice. What is this world coming too?
The next general election will not take place until 2009, Prime Minister-in waiting Gordon Brown has suggested.
The disclosure, which would rule out a snap election, came when Mr Brown was answering questions from Labour supporters at a leadership hustings event in Glasgow.
But he later appeared to backtrack, by referring to "whenever the general election comes in the future".
The apparent slip came when Mr Brown was answering questions from a 350-strong audience.
He told his questioner: "I became an MP in 1983. We are never going back to the circumstances we had then."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/
uklate...6679189,00.html
Off the top of my head:
Grapes of Wrath and Of Mice and Men
Thoreau's Walden Pond
To Kill a Mockingbird
See, now this is the definition of ELITIST!
smalfish
So, would you like to be elite?
Wanna see what I'm using?
Notice, no air compressor.
Simone Weil's The Iliad, or the Poem of Force. All of her stuff, really, but that in particular.
Right, it's literally a letter.
NTodd
The Atlanta History Center had an exhibit recently of Dr. King's early papers - sermons, a telegram inviting him to Kennedy's inauguration, etc. - including the "closest to original" version of the Letter. The original, written on whatever paper could be smuggled into and out of the jail, was destroyed once typeset, and was revised for later publication.
So, Simels is on notice. What is this world coming too?
He's one of them vet spitters, you know...
the beatles
black and white television
bob dylan
bob dylan
bob dylan
the beatniks
leonard bernstein
mort sahl
joan baez
picasso
the dick cavett show
Brave New World
1984, Animal Farm
The Red Badge of Courage
Kurt Vonnegut, in general
All the President's Men gave me an entirely too optimistic view of the world of journalism
To Kill a Mockingbird
Dude, get a fucking iPod, for crying out loud.
jac
iPod not play vinyl, duh.
dave™© - if you listen to Jaz McKay, then I will have to file the paperwork to put you on notice.
I used to work for him here in Lansing.
Dang! The new scooter store that just opened up is *sold out* of his stock! He's taking orders! Arrrgh!
.
To Kill a Mockingbird
Jeez, how could I forget that?
He's one of them vet spitters, you know...
THAT BASTARD!
john steinbeck
alduous huxley
george orwell
kurt vonnegut
richard brautigan
...if you listen to Jaz McKay, then I will have to file the paperwork to put you on notice.
OK, I give - who's Jaz McKay?
So, would you like to be elite?
Well, if there was only seventeen made, elite might be a bit over budget for me.
iPod not play vinyl, duh.
JR
What we have heah . . . is a failure to communicate.
nov 22 1963
the beatles
. . .
bob dylan
bob dylan
bob dylan
Oh, yeah, and Joan Baez, and even Janis Ian.
buffy st marie
iPod not play vinyl, duh.
JR
It will if you compress your records very tightly.
A History of the Arabs People by Albert Hourani
Anatomy of Fascism by Robert O. Paxton
Blair's Wars by John Kampfner
Hegemony or Survival : America's Quest for Global Dominance by Noam Chomsky
The Handmaid's Tale by Marget Atwood
Ruth - I'm dealing with the migraine one day at a time. I think this one is tapering off, but it's very bad one.
Lot of stress lately abd your body can only take so much.
gwb:drf
OT, if anyone would like to suggest movies or books that made a huge impact in their progressive attitudes today, I'm interested in making a list.
ellroon
Definitely add the Gospels to that list. Jesus seems like a really cool dude, helping the poor, forgiving people, etc.
It's the whackos that came behind him that fuck things up.
OK, I give - who's Jaz McKay?
Last I knew, he was doing the afternoon drive on some station out of Fresno.
Oh, and Marilynne Robinson's Mother Country.
I don't think On the Beach or Fail-Safe are very good movies, in retrospect, but they certainly spooked me as a kid.
What we have heah . . . is a failure to communicate.
jac
Well,
1) I'm not paying twice, especialy for lwer quality sound (Red Book sucketh shit)
2) The iPod will not drive my speakers.
janis ian for sure.
huge.
and even the puzzle of hearing:
walk right in
sit right down
daddy let your hair hang low
I liked the skinny Jerry Lewis better. With Dean Martin.
See, all of ya's reading and viewing habits I never partook of, yet I'm still a liberal.
If there is any one event that might have made a difference, it might have been the Indian crying by the side of the highway.
Have a cookie.
The Handmaid's Tale by Marget Atwood
Moonbootica, Graduee
A wonderful choice, but I read it as a fully-formed left-wing lunatic.
Up With People:
amazingly fantastic progressive experimental 'people's' music
walk right in
sit right down
daddy let your hair hang low
illyakran | 06.02.07 - 2:05 pm | #
Cannon's Jug Stompers' version? Or We Five?
dave- that's KZNR Bakersfield.
Got a kick out of this:
Three suspects have been arrested in what authorities say was a terror plot aimed at New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport. A fourth suspect is being sought, law enforcement officials said on Saturday.
Homeland Security sources said the airport is not under threat and that the attack as planned was "not technically feasible."
So at least they're admitting right up front it's bullshit. That's progress!
I watched an interview with John Cougar Mellencamp where he was asked about playing vinyl records and digitizing them. He says he has done so with a neat machine by TEC,
margaret atwood is like a cold fish in person.
Up With People:
amazingly fantastic progressive experimental 'people's' music
Experimental? Are you sure you're not thinking of something else?
as i've mentioned, Ken MacLeod is one of the biggest influences, him and Kevin Carson
I don't think On the Beach or Fail-Safe are very good movies, in retrospect, but they certainly spooked me as a kid.
I read Fail Safe at boarding school a couple of miles from Tavares (featured prominently in the book); it scared the shit out of me.
Only read On the Beach a couple of years ago.
I was very fond of Albert Hourani. The last time we met he told the story of absently looking out his North Oxford bathroom window one morning, only then finally realising he was looking at the little bungalow that TE Lawrence's parents had built in about 1905. He'd never before figured out that he was living next door....
Cannon's Jug Stompers' version? Or We Five?
Phila | Homepage | 06.02.07 - 2:06 pm | #
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We 5 is what I know.
btw: loved the 'zither club' photo on your blog.
Brave New World, 1984 & To Kill a Mockingbrid. Doh!
How'd I miss those on the first pass?
Oh, my parents were flaming liberals, and I read a lot of Steinbeck.
And Galbraith, and Marx...
Up With People:
amazingly fantastic progressive experimental 'people's' music
Experimental? Are you sure you're not thinking of something else?
Phila | Homepage | 06.02.07 - 2:07 pm | #
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heh. did you note the smiling emoticon at the bottom of my post denoting 'irony?'
We 5 is what I know.
btw: loved the 'zither club' photo on your blog.
illyakran | 06.02.07 - 2:08 pm | #
Thanks!
I kinda like the We Five one, but the CJS version is amazing (like all their stuff)....
1) I'm not paying twice, especialy for lwer quality sound (Red Book sucketh shit)
2) The iPod will not drive my speakers.
Over one hundred gigs of music on my HD and paid for very little of it.
And my ears got blown out may years ago, and cannot hear the difference between analog and digital music.
see my parents weren't particularly flaming left wingers when I was growing up.
my mum has become more left recently
and i have no idea what my dad's political ideology is.
my brother is really left, my sister describes herself as 'moderate'
1) I'm not paying twice, especialy for lwer quality sound (Red Book sucketh shit)
2) The iPod will not drive my speakers.
JR, kerosene and a match | Homepage | 06.02.07 - 2:05 pm | #
$30 for the most amazing amp "evah"
http://www.tnt-audio.com/ampli/t...li/t-
amp_e.html
OT - Biden's vote to extend war aligns him with the GOP side
Once again Sen. Joseph R. Biden has chosen to vote to extend the Iraq war at the cost of thousands of precious lives.
We met last fall in the WHYY studio where he lost his temper and screamed at me, a fellow candidate, "You have to fund the war!"
I have not once heard him say that you have to fund: the soldiers, their return, universal single-payer health care,a livable minimum wage, Social Security, education, the maintenance of the infrastructure, and responsible environmentalism.
Has he become a Republican without telling us?
We both have lost children. He lost his wife to the same drunk driver that took the life of his young child. I'm sure he has supported legislation making it tougher on drunk drivers or would if such legislation were introduced. I'm sure that he would feel hurt and betrayed by fellow Congress people who did not join him in support for such life-saving legislation.
I feel the same way about politicians like Biden, Sen. Carper and Rep. Castle who vote for legislation that continues the war that killed my son, as Sen. Biden might feel about politicians who refuse to do anything about drunk drivers.
As I'm sure the senator does not think that getting tough on drunk drivers is political, so, I do not think stopping this war is political. It is a moral issue.
Biden should be the stand-out presidential candidate. He should stop playing political games with our children's lives, and he should join those with strong moral convictions and use his political power to stop the war today.
Michael Berg, Wilmington
the baby next door cries just like my cat.
no wonder i'm always going out to let her in and seeing nothing.
The Golden Notebook, Breathing Lessons.
heh. did you note the smiling emoticon at the bottom of my post denoting 'irony?'
illyakran | 06.02.07 - 2:08 pm | #
Nope! The joke's on me.
Maybe I was just hoping you were serious, the way some people might hope to see a UFO...
I plug my Creative Zen into my stero system via a Y Cable.
wrap an a.m. radio in tin foil.
bake in microwave for 30 seconds.
future transmissions will be digital.
Biden should be the stand-out presidential candidate. He should stop playing political games with our children's lives, and he should join those with strong moral convictions and use his political power to stop the war today.
Michael Berg, Wilmington
Nancy Willing | Homepage | 06.02.07 - 2:10 pm | #
He should tell his MBNA masters to fund the war
Maybe I was just hoping you were serious, the way some people might hope to see a UFO...
Phila | Homepage | 06.02.07 - 2:11 pm | #
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heh. i guess if i was serious that would have been 'pre post-irony deconstruction'.....
If anyone cares my girlfriend is at the Cubs game with her friends and she's sitting behind home plate and if you have WGN you can see her.
She's the brunette sitting behing home plate behind the girl in the pink hat in the thrid row just right of home plate .
Hubba hubba.
I plug my Creative Zen into my stero system via a Y Cable.
I right click on any folder and push
Biden should be the stand-out presidential candidate.
Sheeeit.
Catch-22.
Cliche, but after reading that book, it dawned on me that all grownups had been lying to me for years.
Of course, I had a gotten a hint from years of reading Mad Magazine....
USB turntable - direct to PC
http://www.ion-audio.com/ittusb.php
Glad you're getting thru it Arabella. I never had one myself, but my sister went thru hell for awhile.
The Rooftop Singers, also.
biden's hair is an elected official.
I plug my Creative Zen into my stero system via a Y Cable.
I right click on any folder and push queue it up and bang, I get great sound out my Logitec speakers.
Of course, I had a gotten a hint from years of reading Mad Magazine....
steve simels | Homepage | 06.02.07 - 2:14 pm | #
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that's right. Mad Magazine.
the subversiveness of absurdity.
The Rooftop Singers, also.
billy b - naked eye
We've already done the Beatles.
Helloscam ate the rest of my Mellencamp post. The TEAC machine costs less than 300 bucks, is compact and reasonably good technologically, and I've enjoyed playing my old vinyl records on it,but haven't digitized anything yet.
I read a lot of the Algonquin people, starting with a Thurber I accidentally picked up off my parents' bookshelf, but I don't know that it made me liberal. It sure cracked my shit up.
(My mother said I was a freethinker the day I was born, so there's that, too.)
margaret atwood is like a cold fish in person.
illyakran - Yes, I've heard that. I love her writing, though. Alias Grace is a marvelous book.
Is your pseud an anagram?
gwb:drf
Cliche, but after reading that book, it dawned on me that all grownups had been lying to me for years.
In the immortal words of Richard Pryor, "I couldn't wait to kiss a pussy."
Cliche, but after reading that book, it dawned on me that all grownups had been lying to me for years.
Like that scene in Bull Durham when Crash tells Nuke not to worry about his father in the crowd because his father is as full of shit as everyone else.
biden's hair is an elected official. - illyakran
Really? Always thought of it as a lacquered muskrat.
people have been sticking things to fridge doors longer than we can even begin to imagine.
(deep thought # 3)
Gilly Gonzylon: USB turntable - direct to PC
I think that may be the one that Soprano said she saw at Costco a couple of weeks back, and was sorely tempted to buy.
.
$30 for the most amazing amp "evah"
Gilly Gonzylon
Class T. That's a D with voodoo. At best it has the fidelity of an AB.
And it still ain't getting anywhere near my speakers.
Really? Always thought of it as a lacquered muskrat.
bo | 06.02.07 - 2:17 pm | #
Lacquered Muskrat (D)
Reading through the comments on the Sestak Q&A post at FDL was interesting.
And it still ain't getting anywhere near my speakers.
JR, kerosene and a match | Homepage | 06.02.07 - 2:17 pm | #
What about a glass of Iced Tea and no coaster ?
Now that I think of it, one of my teachers had the brilliant idea of having us read aloud from a play version of "The Diary of Anne Frank"," so that we'd have to take on the characters.
That, and "Hiroshima" in the same year, was pretty overwhelming. Plus, PBS was showing "The World at War" in those days...
Of course, I had a gotten a hint from years of reading Mad Magazine....
The real target of the comic book "witchhunt".
Lacquered Muskrat (D)
illyakran
Or:
Biden (LM, MBNA)
and i have no idea what my dad's political ideology is.
*
take him out to dinner and make him talk
Is your pseud an anagram?
gwb:drf
Arabella Trefoil | 06.02.07 - 2:16 pm | #
no it's digital.
(okay bad joke. yes though you are correct. from an irritating 'moniker' i used last night.)
Slowly it sinks in. It's the hair that does Biden's thinking. bo finally gets it.
Lotsa folk say they can't tell the difference between vinyl and CD.
The I blind AB them on my system, and they can hear it.
Best part... everything was used/old/broken except the speakers. This is why you need a friend who fixes this shit for a living.
that's KZNR Bakersfield.
You're safe - I don't get that on my transistor!
OK, gotta go do some chores. There's florr-staining afoot! Hoo-fucking-ray!
Don't irk Simels while I'm gone. Save it for me.
I must get off now. Anyone who hasn't heard Al Gore on his book on Reason now is your chance at CSpan.
Oh, and CIA agents asking to stop the torture. At the homepage.
Ciao.
chores sounds about right for me too.
remember:
Get Clean for Gene!
bbl Doctor Who is on
What about a glass of Iced Tea and no coaster ?
Gilly Gonzylon
I have a Rottweiler with your name on it.
I never said my system cost me a lot. Balance and judicious scrounging.
I don't think On the Beach or Fail-Safe are very good movies, in retrospect, but they certainly spooked me as a kid.
Agree about "On the Beach," but "Fail Safe" never fails to suck me in.
I do wish someone would do a version more faithful to the book, where the President is obviously JFK...
That, and "Hiroshima" in the same year, was pretty overwhelming. Plus, PBS was showing "The World at War" in those days...
Phila
Ah, yes...Hiroshima. I'd include that on the list as well.
WAY off topic, but a friend of mine just sent me this.
I always considered her a phoney.
http://www.rotten.com/library/bi.../mother-teresa/
Man, I'd forgotten how much hi-fi snobs annoy me!
jfk: not perfect but tough as nails and willing to compromise avoiding follhardy scenarios.
i guess he had to go.
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I never said my system cost me a lot. Balance and judicious scrounging.
As a kid I always drooled over those amazing sound systems at the high end electronic stores. I would go in and just wander for hours.
Now, as an adult, I am extremely pleased with the digital setup I have. In both the living room and my office.
dave™©
Snobs only buy overpriced, new gear with name brands.
So I ppppfffftttttbbb!!!! in your general direction.
WAY off topic, but a friend of mine just sent me this.
I always considered her a phoney.
http://www.rotten.com/library/bi.../mother-teresa/
Read Hitchens' "The Missonary Position". It's quite good, written before he drank the Kool Aid.
inner city youth with no employable skills wanting expensive brand name consumer goods.
ah heck. it'll work out okay.
I never said my system cost me a lot. Balance and judicious scrounging.
JR, kerosene and a match | Homepage | 06.02.07 - 2:22 pm | #
Right on. My ears are so shot from seeing AC/DC back in '79, I'm reminded of it every time I'm in a quiet room.
Uh, that comment on Hitchens and Mother Teresa was me. For some reason Haloscan reset my cookies with an unknown name.
hey nice ladddy!
my ears, one of them anyway, are still shot from cranking up yoko ono at full volume for hours.
oh yeah. it was a surrealist revolution alright.
pardon? huh? what was that?
For some reason Haloscan reset my cookies with an unknown name.
spinoza
Did it to me before, too. Weird.
I'll agree, that clean vinyl records can sound better, but where do you find such a mythical item these days? All of the records I have are worn and you can hear it.
I also think flac sounds better than mp3, aac, and ogg, on almost any set of speakers, if what the sound was digitized from was clean enough. For example I was just fooling with this, with a very clean sounding Charles Mingus CD. You can clearly hear the difference even with my computer speakers, some logitech ones. Now I've also got some Dizzy Gilespie CDs that frankly you might as well use the most compressed sound codec you can find at a low bitrate. It won't matter, the original quality of the recording were that bad. Unfortunately some of the tunes on this CD can only be found there.
Every self-respecting hippie in my college town had a copy of Be Here Now
Right on. My ears are so shot from seeing AC/DC back in '79, I'm reminded of it every time I'm in a quiet room.
I've had tinitius (constant ringing in the ears) for almost twenty years. I blame my mothers bathrooms and my own stupidity for not wearing hearing protection when using a chipping hammer to tear down her tile walls.
Right on. My ears are so shot from seeing AC/DC back in '79, I'm reminded of it every time I'm in a quiet room. - Gilly Gonzylon
Ever had an audiologist laugh at you?
and on that day the police canine unit shall arrive at the houses of the rich.
and on that day the mounted horseback unit shall haul the rich from their automobiles.
and on that day the tv announcer grins and says 'happy backwards day!'
mp3 compression is horrible for classical music. I can't stand it.
Read Hitchens' "The Missonary Position". It's quite good, written before he drank the Kool Aid.
bye good lyric say
Thanks for the tip.
Ever had an audiologist laugh at you?
bo | 06.02.07 - 2:29 pm | #
Laugh? No. Shake his head? Yes !
Every self-respecting hippie in my college town had a copy of Be Here Now
Nancy Willing | Homepage | 06.02.07 - 2:29 pm | #
what time is it?
NOW
where am I?
HERE
BE HERE NOW
oh yeah. definitely.
the outstretched 'power to the people' fist opened palms up to the sound of 'om...om...'
my ears, one of them anyway, are still shot from cranking up yoko ono at full volume for hours.
*
Live Peace in Toronto is one of my favorites - did anyone EVER listen to the Yoko side?
mp3 compression is horrible for classical music. I can't stand it.
I blame the genre.
"For some reason Haloscan reset my cookies with an unknown name."
--spinoza
I wonder how that happens? When the sex spammer was here about a month or so ago, it stole my name at least two or three times. Sometimes I think it happens when you post close to its post. Whenever I see that kind of span comment now, I check to see if my name is still my name.
technically yoko was only an 'honourary' surrealist.
IYou can clearly hear the difference even with my computer speakers, some logitech ones.
Nothing against Logitech, they make some nice reasonably priced gear, but those are still computer speakers and Redbook.
Seriously, Redbook is a fucking antique of a standard, and it's time for a new one. Unfortunately the new ones are all loaded with DRM and no one can agree on one.
I am soothed that there are still hi-fi snobs about.
And black turtleneck sweaters too....
Never got into "The Urantia Book", but came across it on many a cinderblock-and-plank bookshelf years ago.
Live Peace in Toronto is one of my favorites - did anyone EVER listen to the Yoko side?
Nancy Willing | Homepage | 06.02.07 - 2:31 pm | #
out of the bag yoko you're up next!
I am soothed that there are still hi-fi snobs about.
GWPDA,
I reject the race to the bottom.
I'm just sittting here
waiting for my camera battery to charge
then off to am Anglivasn Auxillary luncheon and a Golf Tournament
technically yoko was only an 'honourary' surrealist.
illyakran
*
she published a great book of her work called Grapefruits
the black turtleneck sweater moved through the room stopping at the fancy hi-fi system pausing long enough to place a dave brubeck album on the turntable before returning his attention to the black turtleneck sweater on the sofa
Aglivasn=Anglican
Live Peace in Toronto is one of my favorites - did anyone EVER listen to the Yoko side? | Nancy Willing
Not yet, anyway.
For some reason Haloscan reset my cookies with an unknown name.
spinoza
Did it to me before, too. Weird. - JR,
Somebody's spam bot posts a bunch of url crap that can usurp your name if you refresh at the right moment.
You can clear it by backpaging (alt+left in IE)
the black turtleneck sweater moved through the room stopping at the fancy hi-fi system pausing long enough to place a dave brubeck album on the turntable before returning his attention to the black turtleneck sweater on the sofa
illyakran
I don't wear turtlenecks, but would you like to see my Brubeck collection?
I've had tinitius (constant ringing in the ears) for almost twenty years. I blame my mothers bathrooms and my own stupidity for not wearing hearing protection when using a chipping hammer to tear down her tile walls.
smalfish, tinfoil hatted | 06.02.07 - 2:29 pm
Twelve year old metalhead. My friend of mine and I slept out the night before to get great tixs. And great seats we got - 1st row, but off to the right side, directly in front of a skyscraper of speakers.
So I ppppfffftttttbbb!!!! in your general direction.
You can really hear the spittle with these headphones...
Here's the offending post:
bye good lyric say | Homepage | 06.02.07 - 2:24 pm | #
hey JR i found that medieval 'medicine' book. not oversized.
a few colour prints.
mostly smaller b&w.
actually there were a few illuminated manuscripts on the subject these images were culled from
Ringing in my ears = the Who, Oakland Arena, 1980.
Couldn't hear for two days!
From comments at ThinkProgress:
The mere definition of a pathologically compromised individual is their inability to admit having made a mistake (lack of moral insight) and defensive attitude about all things pertaining to them.
I don't really think this is seen as pathology anymore. It's become so commonplace, it's business as usual.
Which is frightening.
Twelve year old metalhead. My friend of mine and I slept out the night before to get great tixs. And great seats we got - 1st row, but off to the right side, directly in front of a skyscraper of speakers.
I think you and I could get along very well.
You can really hear the spittle with these headphones...
dave™©
Umm... Grados
dave™©:
Just saw the Colbert thing at your blog.
You have a blog?
Seriously, that's hilarious -- how did you do it?
BTW, the reviews are in at FDL, and Sestak gave a piss-poor performance.
The hall monitors are still bitching about "rudeness"...
Twelve year old metalhead. My friend of mine and I slept out the night before to get great tixs. And great seats we got - 1st row, but off to the right side, directly in front of a skyscraper of speakers.
Gilly Gonzylon
*
I rushed the stage with a friend at a Grateful Dead show in the Spectrum in Philly - we made it to the front without a snag and then realized that we were stuck in front of the bass speakers...
actually there were a few illuminated manuscripts on the subject these images were culled from
illyakran
Ah, which one is it?
I'm going to make some guesses. 16th century (or early 17th), northern European (probably German, second guess Dutch).
Seriously, that's hilarious -- how did you do it?
There's a site someone posted much earlier - the link's at my blog (which you probably didn't know I had because - well, look at its posting history).
Anyhoo, link is here. You have to right-click and save the resulting photo to your own computer, then post it on your blog if you want anyone else to see it, though.
"...and Sestak gave a piss-poor performance.""
--dave™©
I thought it was a piss-poor performance too. Wasn't impresses in the least.
the black turtleneck sweater moved through the room stopping at the fancy hi-fi system pausing long enough to place a dave brubeck album on the turntable
quit spying on me.
BTW, the reviews are in at FDL, and Sestak gave a piss-poor performance.
The hall monitors are still bitching about "rudeness"...
dave™© | Homepage | 06.02.07 - 2:37 pm | #
you dont stop a war with the netroots you have you........
no wait,
okay i cant figure out the reverse metaphor im looking for
ANd, for a collection of words you never thought you'd see together in the same sentence...
I have the audiophile pressing of Motorhead's "No Remorse".
Unfortunately the new ones are all loaded with DRM and no one can agree on one.
Want to work on an open source one. With DVDs being common and the BlueRay and the other high density disk that I can't think of it's name now, the original reasons for the low quality redbook standard don't apply, nowdays.
There's no reason why reasonable bandwidth, dynamic headroom, distortion, more channels and lossless compression can not all be on one of those. Write the copyright or patent so that it's illegal for RIAA subscribing corps can't use it and you'd have a winner. There's lots of indie recording studios that would be happy for something better, to distribute their music on.
Out for sun and fun, peeps
"they have their Hi-Fi
the boob tube
and instant pizza pie"
-the reverend Tiothy lovejoy
I rushed the stage with a friend at a Grateful Dead show in the Spectrum in Philly - we made it to the front without a snag and then realized that we were stuck in front of the bass speakers...
Nancy Willing | Homepage | 06.02.07 - 2:38 pm | #
Thanks for that. I hate myself slightly less.
There's no reason why reasonable bandwidth, dynamic headroom, distortion, more channels and lossless compression can not all be on one of those.
Doug
Oh, I agree, but who is going to be this generation's Philips? Everyone that wants in wants DRM.
I thought it was a piss-poor performance too. Wasn't impresses in the least.
Apparently, he's already off the Blue America fundraising list. This appearance ain't gonna get him back on, either.
In the meantime, I got rassle with Joe Wilson! How cool is that???
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonl...6/2/11950/
13383
Tim Griffin, Karl Rove's "protege," resigned unexpectedly as US Attorney May 31.
Griffin, you'll recall, replaced an actually qualified US Attorney in the firings scandal.
The resignation comes a day after journalist Greg Palast showed Congressman John Conyers a 2004 email showing Griffin's involvement in caging voters.
Caging voters is when you identify people who are likely to not be able to respond to inquiries about their legal ability to vote. For example, someone who is serving in Iraq is unlikely to respond to a letter sent to their home. The voter's ballot when returned from, say, Iraq, is not counted.
Hilariously, the caging lists were obtained by Palast when an email was accidentally sent from Griffin to an email address at RNC.com, a spoof Web site, instead of RNC.org.
Although the emails appear in Palast's book, this week marks the first time it has been reported that Congress is looking into the caging activities by the GOP.
The implications of the caging lists are obviously that the Republicans, instead of supporting the troops, were stripping minority soldiers of their right to vote.
Should Republicans in Congress be caught supporting a president who was stripping soldiers of their voting rights, they'll be toast. Therefore if this investigation goes deep enough, impeachment could be possible.
Apparently, he's already off the Blue America fundraising list.
Is Sestack the one who supplanted Santorum?
I'm going to make some guesses. 16th century (or early 17th), northern European (probably German, second guess Dutch).
JR, kerosene and a match | Homepage | 06.02.07 - 2:39 pm | #
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the problem of the execution of the Liege manuscript poses questions analgous to those presented by
The Visconti Hours. Initiated under the direction of Giovannino who personally set his hand to the work on a number of the folios...
I dont know the who what were when how to any of this but the preface is too complex to figure out. they also mention an arabic physician much was borrowed from
Should Republicans in Congress be caught supporting a president who was stripping soldiers of their voting rights, they'll be toast. Therefore if this investigation goes deep enough, impeachment could be possible.
IF is such a very large word.
I once fell asleep in a third row center seat at a Blue Cheer show at the Fillmore.
I think there were drugs involved.
I'm still spitting out ashes from Ground Zero of the smoking crater known as the Democratic Party, but I think I'm correct to note that whenever I direct an on-line petition or similar Internet transaction to Sestak's office, I get a polite "do not reply" e-mail confirming receipt, and promising that my communication will get a proper reply.
But I honestly don't think I've ever gotten a reply-- certainly not by e-mail, and I can't recall seeing anything in snail mail. Anyone else around from Delaware County (PA) that can speak to this?
I thought of another couple of titles that influenced me at various times in my life.
Marge Piercy's "Woman On the Edge of Time" and Monique Wittig's "Les Guerrilieres (sp)"
Is Sestack the one who supplanted Santorum? - smalfish
Carazy Kurt Weldon.
From comments at ThinkProgress:
The mere definition of a pathologically compromised individual is their inability to admit having made a mistake (lack of moral insight) and defensive attitude about all things pertaining to them.
I don't really think this is seen as pathology anymore. It's become so commonplace, it's business as usual.
It's actually become a desired trait in this republic culture.
I once fell asleep in a third row center seat at a Blue Cheer show at the Fillmore.
You sound like the kind of guy who would sleep through "The Guns of Navarone."
I have the audiophile pressing of Motorhead's "No Remorse".
JR, kerosene and a match | Homepage | 06.02.07 - 2:40 pm | #
Or this?
http://rateyourmusic.com/release...a/nevermind_f5/
I once fell asleep in a third row center seat at a Blue Cheer show at the Fillmore.
I think there were drugs involved.
steve simels | Homepage | 06.02.07 - 2:46 pm | #
for some reason i always thought blue cheer and canned heat belonged on tour togetyher
Ugh...tinnitus. Listened to loud music every night in headphones as a teenager...went to countless punk shows throughout the eighties, ended up in three loud bands at once, for a total of four deafening rehearsals a week, and one show that was so loud that I toppled over from inner ear problems.
Mostly I just have a weird crawling feeling in my ears. But the tinnitus is certainly there...I was in Death Valley at 5 AM one time, and in that silent environment the noise in my ears was so loud I felt like crying.
Should Republicans in Congress be caught supporting a president who was stripping soldiers of their voting rights, they'll be toast. Therefore if this investigation goes deep enough, impeachment could be possible.
Richard | 06.02.07 - 2:44 pm | #
Ooh, yeah.
Been thinking the same thing...
"Is Sestack the one who supplanted Santorum?"
Carazy Kurt Weldon.
As someone pointed out at FDL, Sestak ended up voting the same way Weldon did, so what was the point?
Is Sestack the one who supplanted Santorum? | smalfish, tinfoil hatted
No, Bob "Pro-Life" Casey knocked off Santorum.
Sestak dislodged that poison barnacle Curt Weldon.
Hope sprang eternal.
peace and humptiness forever
Even as we speak, Weldon's fortifying his neighborhood supermarket to repel the inevitable Jihadi onslaught.
the whoosh, the sudden roar, the frequencies, the ringing,
oh yeah.
i also think it might be from certain 'substances' you know, the ones that made you 'vibrate' for eight hours
I was in Death Valley at 5 AM one time, and in that silent environment the noise in my ears was so loud I felt like crying.
Yep. I abhor quiet places anymore, yet I hate noise just as bad.
Mostly I just have a weird crawling feeling in my ears. But the tinnitus is certainly there...I was in Death Valley at 5 AM one time, and in that silent environment the noise in my ears was so loud I felt like crying.
Phila | Homepage | 06.02.07 - 2:48 pm | #
Cymbals. I blame cymbals.
for some reason i always thought blue cheer and canned heat belonged on tour togetyher
Without even looking, I can guarantee they played the Fillmore together at least once.
Marge Piercy's "Woman On the Edge of Time" and Monique Wittig's "Les Guerrilieres (sp)"
Diane C. Barking-Mad | Homepage | 06.02.07 - 2:47 pm | #
Rorschach was recommending Wittig to me a while back. Haven't found a copy yet.
Actually, he also recommended Zizek's "Welcome to the Desert of the Real," which was a terrific book....very astute about the problems of the right and left.
amputees sent back into battle.
good.fucking.god.
so what was the point?
Taxation without representation.
I once fell asleep in a third row center seat at a Blue Cheer show at the Fillmore.
The Nuge, Ellis Auditorium, North Hall, Memphis 1976.
The asshole stood there with his ass hanging out of that ridiculous loincloth and let his guitar feed back at earsplitting volume the whole show. Everyone but me was doing pig tranks and passed out.
"In the meantime, I got rassle with Joe Wilson! How cool is that???"
--dave™©
So cool, it made me smile. I wasn't sure if "dave" was Trademark dave when I was reading comments over there, but I should have known.
The Liege manuscript is an early Dutch one. 13th or 14th c.
the whoosh, the sudden roar, the frequencies, the ringing,
I used to hate the post-show tones I'd get...different ones in each ear usually, and - adding insult to injury - completely discordant.
I once fell asleep in a third row center seat at a Blue Cheer show at the Fillmore.
I think there were drugs involved.
steve simels
I once severely freaked out due to heavy drugs at a Bach At Midnight concert at Lincoln Center. I was in the very center of the audience and the lights were on because it was a midnight concert. The only thing that saved me was deep breathing to Bach's sublime music.
Everyone but me was doing pig tranks and passed out.
billy b - naked eye | 06.02.07 - 2:52 pm | #
To be fair, if I had to see Nugent, I'd take pig tranks too. If not something stronger, like cyanide.
Everyone but me was doing pig tranks and passed out.
billy b - naked eye | 06.02.07 - 2:52 pm | #
"Pig Tranks" - wow, there's a band name.
Ah, drat.
Gotta go get ready for my trip to Gomorrah on the Hudson, where this evening I will once again participate in quaffing of elitist chardonnay with my satanic communist associats.
Have fun in my absence, and remember -- when next I post I'll probably be stinko!
I've mentioned this before, but frankly, impeachment at this point has no real appeal to me.
Deep, continuing investigations, yes. Criminal prosecutions as a result of those investigations, yes. Removal from office under the 25th amendment, definitely.
Impeachment - it's just too late in the game. Not that I wouldn't enjoy the hearings.
War crimes trial in the Hague, though - I want a front row seat!
Biden and Kucinich playing the race card in criticizing other DEM candidates for not coming to the FOX debates hosted by the Congressional Black Caucus.
shame on them!
see second item at TPM:
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/
i once saw egg yolks flying around the room in a streaming form coming out of cooked eggs on a plate some longhaired girl cooked me.
she said 'how many tabs did you take?'
i said '4'
she said 'you're out for the weekend'
but i wasn't
Oh, c'mon!
Nirvana vs Motorhead?
I once fell asleep in a third row center seat at a Blue Cheer show at the Fillmore.
I think there were drugs involved.
steve simels
I had a horrible acid freakout while seeing Ozzy Osbourne on his first post-Sabbath tour. Not much fun.
dave tm : what did you do at FDL? I can't keep up with the blogosphere any more.
gwb:drf
To be fair, if I had to see Nugent, I'd take pig tranks too. If not something stronger, like cyanide.
I saw Teddy four, maybe five times. Actually, that was the only time he sucked.
I wasn't sure if "dave" was Trademark dave when I was reading comments over there, but I should have known.
The trademark symbol doesn't show up in their comments system, for some reason.
Joe and I had a beer after... oh, I'm sorry, "Amb. Wilson".
I apologize to the hall monitors for my breach of decorum...
Asshole could play guitar. But he's such an asshole.
I saw Teddy four, maybe five times. Actually, that was the only time he sucked.
billy b - naked eye | 06.02.07 - 2:55 pm | #
Sounds like he had you in a "Stranglehold."
Both William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy have tinnitus. They got it from being to close to a special effects explosion on the set of Star Trek. The episode in question was "Arena", the one with the Gorn in it.
Shatner talked about his struggle with it in interviews...
http://www.ata.org/home/shatner1.html
I'm not sure how I avoided completely fucking up my hearing during my mis-spent youth.
Same goes for my liver.
what did you do at FDL?
Nothing really - just a minor disagreement with Joe Wilson. It wasn't exactly a flame war or anything.
The hall monitors accused me of going "off topic," for some reason.
Wilson was quite pleasant. I mean, it's not like I disagree with him - it was just a minor point, really. I was, quite frankly, thrilled he even noticed me!
We hugged it out. We're cool.
I saw Teddy four, maybe five times. Actually, that was the only time he sucked.
I did too. I don't remember him sucking. And I never heard him utter anything about politics at his shows (At least as I remember).
Oh, c'mon!
Nirvana vs Motorhead?
JR, kerosene and a match | Homepage | 06.02.07 - 2:55 pm | #
I'm pointing out the questionable decision to remaster hard rock, overly compressed recordings for audiophiles. Doesn't seem like it makes sense.
I have to move my ass out of this chair and accomplish something, today, but I'm not sure what, exactly!
My reason for being, today, was shot down in its prime. 
.
Impeachment - it's just too late in the game. Not that I wouldn't enjoy the hearings.
War crimes trial in the Hague, though - I want a front row seat!
dave™©
I hear you, dave!
I think the only way we're going to break this awful cycle is with convictions AND hard time, starting at the top.
My reason for being, today, was shot down in its prime.
.
Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 06.02.07 - 2:59 pm | #
Join the club, kiddo.
Wankress of the day nominee: "The "outspoken" Laura Ingraham.
Gilly Gonzylon: Join the club, kiddo.
What was your daily disappointment, today?
.
Sounds like he had you in a "Stranglehold."
I wasn't the biggest fan, it's just that his crew toured a lot and everyone else loved the boy, so I ended up tagging along for the party and the chicks.
I preferred his stuff with the Amboy Dukes to his Stranglehold band.
I'm pointing out the questionable decision to remaster hard rock, overly compressed recordings for audiophiles. Doesn't seem like it makes sense.
Gilly Gonzylon
But dude, it's "Motorhead" and "audiophile" in the same sentence. Not only will your neighbour's lawn die, but their dog wil leave home.
What was your daily disappointment, today?
.
Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 06.02.07 - 3:01 pm | #
Regaining conciousness....
Great Doctor Who tonight, I'm still exhausted from watching it.
I'm pointing out the questionable decision to remaster hard rock, overly compressed recordings for audiophiles. Doesn't seem like it makes sense.
I'm not sure how I feel about remastering "Pet Sounds," and other earlier Beach Boys music, either.
Brian mixed these down to mono (and supposedly, deliberatly put in a track of "hiss") with an ear to how they'd sound on your AM radio. Same with Spector.
In fact, I think low-resolution MP3s, listened to on your computer speakers, gives a more accurate representation of what they were going after. I appreciate the "pristine" remixing, to a point, but Spector especially (and his arrangers) designed the production to meld all the instruments - not separate them into 80 tracks.
Thanks for the update, dave tm. I've never been able to fit in with the folks at FDL. Different crowd than here, I guess.
Gotta go. Pain meds are making me sleepy.
gwb:drf
hello moonbats
Gilly Gonzylon: Regaining conciousness....
Well, hey, I like a good sleep as much as the next guy, but I'm seriously done with it in 7-8 hours.
.
JR, I'm not sure about how open source the flac lossless compression codec is, but if it could be forked, this one is close to your goals. It would only take a 'little' tweaking to get the recording standard you want. Maybe the vorbis people themselves could get interested, if the right person wrote to them.
.
In fact, I think low-resolution MP3s, listened to on your computer speakers, gives a more accurate representation of what they were going after.
It's still crap, and never listen to Elton John on a good system, either. Horrible engineering.
It's still crap...
There's that hi-fi snobbery again.
Wilson was quite pleasant. I mean, it's not like I disagree with him - it was just a minor point, really. I was, quite frankly, thrilled he even noticed me!
Somebody over there was threatening to "go medieval" on Amb Wilson.
That was pretty funny. Joe, who stared down Saddam when the latter was in his prime going to get his ass handed to him by an internet poster.
heh.
Moonboo,
I just wanted you to know that the pic of George in the roasting pan made me laugh loudly.
And now I'm off for a badly needed nap.
It's still crap, and never listen to Elton John on a good system, either. Horrible engineering.
JR, kerosene and a match | Homepage | 06.02.07 - 3:04 pm | #
You'd like Steve Hoffman and his related forums
http://www.stevehoffman.tv/
you can see my Denon soundsystem here (its silver)
Sure, I have cats. Who doesn't?
.
Speaking of that Steve Hoffman site, does Atrios know about this:
180 gram LP of Yes: Fragile
JR, I'm not sure about how open source the flac lossless compression codec is, but if it could be forked, this one is close to your goals. Doug
flac is a compression codec, it can't be better than the source, which is already digitized and therefor crappy 9compared to analogue).
With better digital standards, maybe, but then will flac be "lossless"?
There's that hi-fi snobbery again.
dave™©
And proud of it.
Race to the bottom, suckers!
Race to the bottom, suckers!
So.....What do you do in your car? Listen to the rattles?
Have a cookie!
most of this conversation is going straight over my head.
i just listen to the music, download some off sousleek, rip others to my laptop.
My reason for being, today, was shot down in its prime. . Jeffraham Prestonian
Well, shit. Somewhere in this universe there's got to be a Vino with your name on it. Maybe you could do a deal with VV.
JR, I have a question, what do you listen to in your car, an 8-track or one of these?
http://www.imperialclub.com/Repa...iWay/
invent.htm
Or just road noise?
I'd say Doug owes me a coke, but the record player is too funny to enforce that code.
Really check out this link, it's special, though I've only seen one once, on a taxi ride to Samsun (Turkey).
http://ookworld.com/hiwayhifi.html
Sheets x2.
Live Abbey Road Webcam - Just hit your refresh button to see the changes.
http://www.abbeyroad.com/webcam/...am/
crossing.jpg
I once fell asleep in a third row center seat at a Blue Cheer show at the Fillmore.
*
Blue Cheer!
I have three of their albums
Thanks everybody. I have three pages of suggestions!
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