HULK SMASHED

Gravatardouche


Gravatarheh, first


Gravatartres


GravatarHey


GravatarHard to believe anyone pays Siegel to say anything at all.


GravatarOnly a person thoroughly removed from linguistic pleasures would quibble with the semantics of “assclown.” It was a surprise to me to see Siegel taking umbrage with the term. “Assclown is a really funny word, though,” grinned Nicholson Baker

This sounds like a hoot of an evening.


Gravatarthe bees' revenge:

Former Fort Lauderdale man dies after attack by bees
Former Lauderdale man swarmed while demolishing trailer in C. Florida
By David Fleshler
South Florida Sun-Sentinel
April 12, 2008

A former Fort Lauderdale resident died in Okeechobee County after being stung more than 100 times Wednesday by Africanized honey bees. It was the first human fatality in Florida from the aggressive bees, according to the Florida Department of Agriculture.

[...]

Fulmer, who went to the hospital with the rest of his family as he lay in intensive care, said Davis was working in his demolition business when the attack happened. He was on a front-end loader to demolish an abandoned trailer. As he began taking apart the trailer, a swarm of bees estimated by authorities at 40,000 to 50,000 attacked him, she said. He died at the hospital.


Gravatarfrom below:
Ratzi has issues with transvestism, too.

Oh, yes. watertiger has catalogued this in some detail.


GravatarIsn't "negative capability" a phrase stolen from Keats? (Not that Siegel would steal anything.)


Gravatara swarm of bees estimated by authorities at 40,000 to 50,000 attacked him

Molly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


GravatarPoor widdle 'spresso-haid.


Gravatarwho the fuck cares about this?

bye - Atrios, you're boring


GravatarI saw Siegel on The Daily Show awhile back. He truly is a worthless sack of crap.


GravatarI've never used insecticides on my lawn, which is probably why the moles are having a field day.
Karin Hussein


You can kill insects without chemicals.

Diatomaceous earth will kill anything arthropod, and they sell nematodes that kill grubs.


GravatarBeyond tiresome.

More roof gardening!


GravatarUnless you can define "negative capability," they should take your internet keys away! Commoners.


GravatarHey, I had one wasp, which I killed with a book of WW1 poetry.


Gravatarwow.... if that's true, it makes me think this may be atrios's greatestest post ever.


GravatarI always feel bad for the victims of Compulsory Eschaton Reading Syndrome. I think we need a telethon.


GravatarMoles aerate the soil; they just have no idea when to stop.


GravatarI use to give mao-mao the benefit of doubt but am now thoroughly convinced that it's Butler.


GravatarHey, I had one wasp, which I killed with a book of WW1 poetry.
Molly Ivors,


All's quiet on the waspy front.


GravatarWell, I am glad we pushed through the Deparment of Homeland Security.

Since now they plan to make sure we are secure by spying on us.

Anybody else bothered by the shift from the President prerving, protecting, and defending the Constitution, to preserving, protecting, and defending whatever he thinks is "national security"?


GravatarSpiegel spewed out more straw men than a scarecrow population on a three hundred acre pumpkin patch.



GravatarHey, I had one wasp, which I killed with a book of WW1 poetry.
Molly Ivors


"The glebe cow drooled, you bastard! Take that!"


GravatarSiegel's a "third generation" turd. He worked his way up in the machine, only to find it was obsolete, so he hates everyone just because he's an ignorant time-server who can't learn a new trick.

Hey, get me! I'm in charge of obvious today.
.


GravatarHey, I had one wasp, which I killed with a book of WW1 poetry.
Molly Ivors, Working on Saturd

How poetic!

And who says poetry has no purpose in contemporary society?


Gravatar
Try milky spore.


NO FLIRTING!


GravatarLee Siegel wears turtlenecks.


GravatarMeanwhile DoughBob LoadPants is pimping "evidence" of Iranian missile sites.


Gravatarsiegel does not understand, yet, that such a deep level of intellectual failure and pretension is only a winning game in the winger welfare state.

but i'm bitter
about nafta
and having my heart broken at the funplex


GravatarExcellent use of primary sources, Molly.


GravatarHey, I had one wasp, which I killed with a book of WW1 poetry.

Dulce et decorum est hymenoptera, pro Molly mori.


GravatarTroll spooge will kill moles, but collecting it is so unpleasant.


GravatarMoles aerate the soil; they just have no idea when to stop.

To be fair, having a star-shaped nose might cause one to develop OCD.


Gravatar*brandishes both fists at wasp*

"Let me introduce you Wilfred Owen and Sigfried Sassoon."


GravatarHey, I had one wasp, which I killed with a book of WW1 poetry.
Molly Ivors

Dulce et Decorum est Pro Patria Mori.


GravatarWell, it was either the poetry of this book of management newspeak I have to read for leadership training.


GravatarProust is good for killing bugs dead too.


Gravatarbeaten to the latino punch.


Gravatarleadership training

Heh.


GravatarHey, I had one wasp, which I killed with a book of WW1 poetry.

An Irish Wasp Foresees His Death.


GravatarProust is good for killing bugs dead too.
Florida


Bugs? You could probably stun a horse with a complete Proust.


Gravatar"But Siegel really seems to believe that the Internet is worse than cancer, poverty, and war combined."

Okay, he has been hanging out here right?

He has seen the horror of Haloscan in the trenches.


GravatarMy SO once accidentally mowed over a patch of lawn where wasps were, got stung 21 times and ended up in the emergency room.


GravatarMeanwhile DoughBob LoadPants is pimping "evidence" of Iranian missile sites.
P O'Neill | Homepage | 04.12.08 - 11:50 am


Don't they know that you can't start selling a program until after Labor Day.


GravatarWell, it was either the poetry of this book of management newspeak I have to read for leadership training.
Molly Ivors, Working on Saturd | Homepage | 04.12.08 - 11:52 am | #


Wasp. We have to do some level setting here and try to understand the value proposition you bring to the table in our customer-centric commitment to excellence.
[wasp kills self]


GravatarI've found the 1927 hardback edition of Robert Burton's The Anatomy of Melancholy very useful against wasps, yellow jackets, spiders, and all manner of creepy-crawlies.


GravatarI stepped on a bee hive once, got stung 70 or 80 times-- on top of poison ivy.


Gravatarwho the fuck cares about this?

bye - Atrios, you're boring
mimi


Ahem:

80 Visitors Online

This has been another edition ...
.


GravatarMarce,
One of my earliest memories is a family hayride over a log full of yellow jackets.

Terrifying.


GravatarOkay, he has been hanging out here right?

He has seen the horror of Haloscan in the trenches.
EkCenTriK | 04.12.08 - 11:54 am


I'm sure he came through at some point. Embraced the horror, was one with the horror or simply was the horror.


GravatarBugs? You could probably stun a horse with a complete Proust.
Jay C.


I think we should test this theory in a way that doesn't harm any animals. Quick! Someone go smack Tweety in the head with a volume of Proust!


GravatarGrand Moff Tex, now we know who Lee Siegel posts as when he comes here!


GravatarI remember climbing up into a hayloft when I was 10 or so and putting my hand on a wasp nest.


GravatarI think we should test this theory in a way that doesn't harm any animals. Quick! Someone go smack Tweety in the head with a volume of Proust!
Florida


You can't substitute Madeleines on the menu. Liberal elitist!


GravatarWe have to do some level setting here and try to understand the value proposition you bring to the table in our customer-centric commitment to excellence.

Worse! Strengthsquest! (Yes, it's one word.)


GravatarWe once played host to a whole colony of yellow jackets in our basement.

It was like a remake of The Zanti Misfits down there.


GravatarHe has seen the horror of Haloscan in the trenches.




GravatarTweety: Proust drank orange juice!


GravatarWell, it was either the poetry of this book of management newspeak I have to read for leadership training.
Molly Ivors, Working on Saturd

"Assessment is a key component of any teaching and learning system. Assessment should be an ongoing process, integrated throughout the course, workshop, or program, and should consist of multiple measures, not merely a single grade provided at the conclusion of the learning event."

That would kill it, too. (Stuck in classroom all day, where they are feeding me this stuff. All I learned from that I already knew: law school sucks!)


Gravatarmimi

Like you have anything better to do than come here and pretend to be female.


Gravatar'mornin', and a beautiful, unexpectedly sunny day

Drive-by cite to Niall Ferguson's review of what he alleges to be a masterpiece of literary, legal and policy thinking by Philip Bobbitt, on the war with terrorism. In the entire review, there isn't the slightest recognition that terrorism doesn't occur in a vacuum, that it has deep historical and political causes, that the West is complicit in many, if not most of these, and that terrorism is occasionally exploited in the West for domestic political purposes.

If Bobbitt similarly evades these issues, hard to call his book a work of even minimal intelligence, much less genius. Ferguson, who did ignore them, proves himself to be, well, in the spirit of Lee Siegel, a fucktard, an assclown and a low-born, canker'd whorseon nematode. Wrong, too, and nearly fatally useless in what some (not I) so often point out is the central struggle of our time.


GravatarI've never been stung by a bee.

But I've been sent packing by angry lobsters more than once.


GravatarSlowly reading through the article...

"that miserable genus of people who defecate upon any pleasure, tear up any moment of beauty, and who cannot locate the capacity to understand another person’s thoughts or feelings."

Mom?


Gravatarcite to fergusonon Bobbitt:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/1...iew& oref=slogin


GravatarOff for awhile.

Play nice.


Gravatar
But I've been sent packing by angry lobsters more than once.


I'm not even going to ask.


GravatarLobsters are mean- but Siegel sucks.


GravatarPhilip Bobbitt

Highly overrated.

Besides, the man has no dick.


GravatarWhy not both?
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins

Bully idea! Kill her and then bury her body under the five new trees!

EXCELLENT soil nourishment for newly-planted trees.
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office | 04.12.08 - 11:44 am


Well, she's probably Repbulican, so she's probably toxic. Bury her under the local RNC HQ.


GravatarWorse! Strengthsquest! (Yes, it's one word.)
Molly Ivors, Working on Saturd


Does the quest have clearly delineated parameters? Or is it a search that will take you and your team beyond conventional thought-boundaries?


GravatarColombia grad Bats Pukahnan just told me that Ivy Leaguers look down on the working class.


GravatarCorrect me if I'm wrong, cause I'm too lazy today to bother googling something like this, but doesn't 'negative capability' have to do with the ability of a work of art to sustain ambiguity? WTF would that mean in that context?


GravatarHey Molly,

Canceled Aquinas lecture a "missed opportunity," gay-advocate speaker says

This is from The Grand Rapids Press, and the writer, who is also the Religion editor, is a friend of mine.


GravatarTeacher in leadership training class: Do exactly as I tell you, and you'll be a leader.

Student: I have my own ideas about how to be a leader, and I'm going to bring the rest of the students along.

Teacher: You get an F. You can not bring new ideas or charismatic personalities to leadership!


GravatarBut I've been sent packing by angry lobsters more than once.
Jay C.

Didn't they teach you to carry lemon wedges and melted butter whenever you are near lobster habitat? Scares the bejeebus out of them grabby little crustaceans.


GravatarBuchanan went to Columbia's journalism school, not Columbia College. His undergraduate work was in Georgetown.


GravatarHey, lobsters have backward-pointing spines on their elbows. So while you're avoiding the claws, your day can still get fucked up. Especially if you're doing this for $6.50/hr.


GravatarWorse! Strengthsquest! (Yes, it's one word.)
Molly Ivors, Working on Saturd | Homepage | 04.12.08 - 11:57 am | #


is it a verb, a noun, an adjective, or some new part of speech altogether?

there are good corporate terms. the best i heard was "lacks traction" used like this

Q:Uh, what um, do you think of this project? [stumbling effort to see if someone else recognizes futility and waste]

A: Lacks traction.


GravatarStudent: I have my own ideas about how to be a leader, and I'm going to bring the rest of the students along.

Teacher: You get an F. You can not bring new ideas or charismatic personalities to leadership!


A microcosm of the 2008 presidential campaign.


Gravatar
Does the quest have clearly delineated parameters? Or is it a search that will take you and your team beyond conventional thought-boundaries?


We're all about the envelope-pushing.


GravatarWhy not both?
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins

Bully idea! Kill her and then bury her body under the five new trees!

EXCELLENT soil nourishment for newly-planted trees.
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office | 04.12.08 - 11:44 am


Well, she's probably Repbulican, so she's probably toxic. Bury her under the local RNC HQ.


Gravatar
A microcosm of the 2008 presidential campaign.


The GOP has been running their club that way for decades.


GravatarI think Conan the Barbarian went on a Strengthsquest.

If I recall correctly, it involved lots of mayhem and scantily-clad maidens.


GravatarIf Niall Ferguson was a doctor, he deny the germ theory and accuse Pasteur of being French.


GravatarI mean, seriously, leadership training? WTF?


GravatarI think it's a noun.

We all started with an online test, sort of like the Kiersey Temperament Sorter. Apparently, there are schools who make all their students take this thing.


Gravatar
If I recall correctly, it involved lots of mayhem and scantily-clad maidens.


Well, I haven't graduated yet.


GravatarFergusson managed one decent book about economic history.
Steadily downhill from there.


Gravatarhey elitists. dick cavett on betrayus and crocker o shitshow. now this is bitter.

http://cavett.blogs.nytimes.com/...-laughs-please/


GravatarIf Niall Ferguson was a doctor, he deny the germ theory and accuse Pasteur of being French.
leibniz♘☮


"Ivory towers elitists refuse to accept the clear fact that miasmatics of the Earth cause all of our maladies. Now I'm off to bathe with the livestock."


GravatarDrive-by cite to Niall Ferguson's review of what he alleges to be a masterpiece of literary, legal and policy thinking by Philip Bobbitt, on the war with terrorism. In the entire review, there isn't the slightest recognition that terrorism doesn't occur in a vacuum, that it has deep historical and political causes, that the West is complicit in many, if not most of these, and that terrorism is occasionally exploited in the West for domestic political purposes...


ProfWombat | 04.12.08 - 11:57 am


Ah Niall. Isn't he the twit who focuses on economic history and yet who wrote in one of his columns about a year ago that since the stock market was doing well, the economy was just fine?


GravatarI mean, seriously, leadership training? WTF?

Moe, you have no idea. I was incarcerated in a coast guard institution last fall for a week learning to be a "leader".


GravatarProf. Wombat:

Nial Fergusen gives the profession of pompous academic lying ignorant war-puffer a bad name.

Read his book on imperial "underreach" and was treated to a display of fraudulent and dishonest pseudo scholarship that made scientology look like Principia Mathematica.


GravatarAll your bass are belong to us.


GravatarRock Lobster!


GravatarMoe, you have no idea. I was incarcerated in a coast guard institution last fall for a week learning to be a "leader".
Finny


Lesson #1: Don't worry about that boat full of people you're towing through the ice field.


GravatarSome of it's okay, Moe--they're assuming that academics probably don't know much about the history and governance of the school, budgeting, grants, that sort of thing. That's true of most people doing it with me.

But this part is just silly.


GravatarFox News is pounding the living bejeezus out of Hussein Obama for his "bitter" comments. Gotta love them apples.


Gravataree Siegel belongs to that miserable genus of people who defecate upon any pleasure, tear up any moment of beauty, and who cannot locate the capacity to understand another person’s thoughts or feelings.

Not sure about thoughts, but the ones who cannot locate the capacity to understand another person's feelings we call "sociopaths."


GravatarSome of it's okay, Moe--they're assuming that academics probably don't know much about the history and governance of the school, budgeting, grants, that sort of thing. That's true of most people doing it with me.

So "capable administration" = "leadership"?


GravatarAll your bass are belong to me, mofo!!


GravatarWe're all about the envelope-pushing.
Molly Ivors, Working on Saturd


Sorry, you have to restate that in the proper jargon.


GravatarI mean, seriously, leadership training? WTF?

Moe, you have no idea. I was incarcerated in a coast guard institution last fall for a week learning to be a "leader".
Finny | 04.12.08 - 12:05 pm |


Oh, I remember that! You were a bit desperate to escape.


GravatarIt's pouring down rain.


Gravatarthey're assuming that academics probably don't know much about the history and governance of the school, budgeting, grants, that sort of thing

If being an academic serf has taught me anything, it's that administrators generally don't know diddley-shit about these subjects either.


GravatarScarecrows do not use strawmen arguments. That is a myth, or a Rove talking point, or . . . a strawman argument.


Gravatar
So "capable administration" = "leadership"?


Yep.

There are 20 of us in this program, and the vast majority are staff, not faculty. But in practice, registrars and admin assistants don't become college presidents, professors do.

But administrative skills are pretty thin on the ground for most academics, sooo.....


GravatarSorry, you have to restate that in the proper jargon.

(hangs head in shame)


GravatarHey kids - it's 1973 on the 10@10 marathon!


GravatarWe all started with an online test, sort of like the Kiersey Temperament Sorter. Apparently, there are schools who make all their students take this thing.
Molly Ivors, Working on Saturd


Most such "tests" are crap, you know.

Meyers-Briggs, I understand, is the product of a housewife, not a psychologist.


GravatarCold and rainy.

So.......

Do I go back to bed and cuddle with the pillow?

Yes, yes I do.

'Nite, all.


GravatarJim Croce.

Nooooooooooooooo!


GravatarMan, I hate haloscan with the heat of a thousand suns!


GravatarSo "capable administration" = "leadership"?


What they try to do in the public service leadership training is to try to put a mechanical framework around the kind of thing natural leaders do intuitively. If someone actually absorbed the lessons it would certainly make them a better boss.


GravatarBut administrative skills are pretty thin on the ground for most academics, sooo.....
Molly Ivors


Well, obviously administrative skills are teachable. But, in my experience anyway, the most skilled administrators generally use those skills for turf-building, budget games, and personal career advancement. Not, in other words, for "leadership."


Gravataradministrators generally don't know diddley-shit about these subjects either.

Well, especially at this level, which is really something of a different game than the universities where we mostly trained. For a lot of us (including me) teaching was the first time we set foot on a community college campus.

But there were hiring freezes on and off through the 80's and 90's, and so there's not a solid field of people coming up. So they're training us.


GravatarI always feel bad for the victims of Compulsory Eschaton Reading Syndrome. I think we need a telethon.
Molly Ivors


I've got some 20 y.o. thread I can donate. Little bit dusty and moldy, but it's a start.


Gravatarpushing the envelope
thinking out of the box
committing to excellence
it's making me plotz


GravatarMoe,

Here's a Scientific American article concerning using charcoal as a soil ammendment and for sequestration of carbon, as well as producing "bio-oil" for fuel.

Because the charcoal by-product, or "agrichar," does not readily break down, it could sequester for thousands of years nearly all the carbon it contains, rather than releasing it into the atmosphere as the greenhouse gas carbon dioxide. Along the way, it would boost agricultural productivity through its ability to retain nutrients and moisture.

abouthttp://www.sciam.com/article.cfm? id=pyrolyisis-terra-preta-could-eliminate-garbage- generate-oil-carbon-sequestration&ref=rss


GravatarMost such "tests" are crap, you know.

They used the "colours" one on us. I'm largely green.


Gravatarnotaboomer

"tinpot Genghis Khan of Crawford, Texas"

Oooh nice one.


GravatarNot, in other words, for "leadership."
Moe Szyslak, cold


There's the ideal of "leadership." And then there's the reality....


GravatarJim Croce.

You don't want to play this game.

trust me.


GravatarI've got some 20 y.o. thread I can donate. Little bit dusty and moldy, but it's a start.



Gravatarbloggus | 04.12.08 - 12:14 pm | #

Supposedly the Amazonian indians did that a lot back when the Amazon was thickly settled.
Read that in the very interesting book: 1491.


GravatarWorking link..

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm...tration& ref=rss


Gravatarbloggus-- thanx for the links.


GravatarHey kids - it's 1973 on the 10@10 marathon!

That year's music convinced me back then that the next 35 years were going to be a veritable River Of Shit.

And so it proved...


GravatarAs I said, certainly we should seek to enhance the soil-- it only makes sense. But I'm skeptical of any strategy that is sold as "the" answer to global warming. Skeptical, to put it mildly.


GravatarHey kids - it's 1973 on the 10@10 marathon!

Kewl, but 1973 was more KJAZ, KPFA for me. /elite
-


GravatarAs I said, certainly we should seek to enhance the soil-- it only makes sense. But I'm skeptical of any strategy that is sold as "the" answer to global warming. Skeptical, to put it mildly.
Moe Szyslak, cold


Clearly we need to teach some leadership on this topic....


GravatarSmall patio gardening two views. Almond tree on left. What to do when oleanders live next door.

Also, raised beds and planters are ur friends. Along with Benjamin Moore's color matching system.  (Note orange, lower right.)


GravatarJim Croce.

You don't want to play this game.

trust me.
theodoric of athens


If you could read my mind, love
What a tale my thoughts could tell


GravatarYour bass is belong to meeee bitchez!!!


GravatarI wonder if it hurts having your head as far up your ass as Timmeh does.


GravatarAs I said, certainly we should seek to enhance the soil-- it only makes sense. But I'm skeptical of any strategy that is sold as "the" answer to global warming. Skeptical, to put it mildly.
Moe Szyslak, cold

Clearly we need to teach some leadership on this topic....
Rmj, Unfashionable Theologist


Moe is clearly a multiple-input thinker, as opposed to an activator, like me.


GravatarGood morning, fine people!


GravatarG'morning, folks!

Today's blogwhore: Media Eats Up Texas Teen’s Fake Attack Story


GravatarI wonder if it hurts having your head as far up your ass as Timmeh does.

If his head were smaller, it might not, but as it is....


GravatarOkay, more papers for me. Thanks for the break!


GravatarYour bass is belong to meeee bitchez!!!

Better check that one out with Simels.


GravatarSupposedly the Amazonian indians did that a lot back when the Amazon was thickly settled.

There's a good essay here if you're interested-

http://www.bidstrup.com/carbon.htm


Moe, you're welcome.


GravatarI wonder if it hurts having your head as far up your ass as Timmeh does.

You don't understand. That's his comfort zone.


GravatarI'll go watch movies.


Gravatar(waving plungers hopefully)


GravatarHe bemoaned being called “asshole,” “douchebag,” “fucktard,” and “shithole” on the New Republic.

Whaah!!!! I want my mommy!!!!


GravatarI'll go watch movies.

I will too, provided they're in 3-D and you have to wear special glasses, as in the original Thirteen Ghosts.


GravatarWhy does Obama preach his speeches?


Gravatarbloggus-- I have a farmer friend who has about 500 acres, maybe 100 of it grazing land. When he got the place, 30 years ago, it was essentially worthless, a rocky nothing. Through composing and manure, now the land is fertile-- many yards deep of a loamy soil.


GravatarMeyers-Briggs, I understand, is the product of a housewife, not a psychologist.
Rmj, Unfashionable Theologist


Now I've heard my opponent put down housewives. And you know, I don't feel that way. I looooove housewives. I just think it's, you know, ELITIST to put down the housewives of America. Even the word "housewife" is ELITIST.


GravatarIf you could read my mind, love
What a tale my thoughts could tell


I warned you.

(Actually, I sort of like Lightfoot, but a promise is a promise.)


And Aubrey was her name,
A not so very ordinary girl or name.
But who's to blame?


GravatarHe bemoaned being called “asshole,” “douchebag,” “fucktard,” and “shithole” on the New Republic.

Asshole, fucktard and shithole are appropriate.

Douchebag, however, seems a bit outside the box.


GravatarWhy do you pretend to be a woman?


GravatarScott Horton to stop blogging.

I am not familiar with him but apaprently he blogs over at Harper's?


GravatarFrom that Cavett piece:

... poor Crocker. His brows are knitted. And he has a perpetually alarmed expression, as if, perhaps, he feels something crawling up his leg.

Could it be he is being overtaken by the thought that an honorable career has been besmirched by his obediently doing the dirty work of the tinpot Genghis Khan of Crawford, Texas? The one whose foolish military misadventure seems to increasingly resemble that of Gen. George Armstrong Custer at Little Bighorn?

Not an apt comparison, I admit.

Custer sent only 258 soldiers to their deaths.


GravatarMeet the Exxon board of directors:

M.J. BOSKIN
L.R. FAULKNER
W.W. GEORGE
J.R. HOUGHTON
R.C. KING
M.C. NELSON