I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
The party's over.
-
Lights out
Hegemony was never all it was cracked up to be anyway.
-
I'm already against the next crisis.
Oh Canada!
But but the three big banks which eated the rest post huge profits and are paying their banksters huge bonuses---all MUST be well.
We are so fucked.
The free market is going to do better the next time around, I just know it.
I told this to res ipsa a year ago. She will back me up.
And we're about to find out if this new fangled "bankruptcy" procedure works for banks
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/
ne...id=adJFyS5t_S08
The free market is going to do better the next time around, I just know it.
Problem with the free market is that it isn't free.
Ya gotta love that speech to the NAACP:
The Fresh Prince of Goldman Sachs acting like success is a matter of mere effort and that he's not where he is as a result of cozying up to the Corpirate Oilgarchy?
Obama, please.
smash!
John Daly at +2 after 2 rounds in the Brit Open.
Commercial Real Estate is going to bring more institutions down
I was talking about this to a co-worker earlier this year. There's no way that the "housing bubble" neatly delineated residential from bidness property.
Land is worth no more than not only what an interested party is willing to pay for it, but also how much dough that interested party can scrape up.
The last half of the 20th century will seem like a wild party for rich kids.
What the hell is going on here? How could this once-proud nation have changed so much, so drastically, in what seems like the blink of an eye, George Bush has brought us from a prosperous nation at peace to a broke nation at war.
And I suppose the govt's refusal to bail out CIT will have a ripple effect on commercial real estate also?
LubyFy is one of those exceedingly obnoxious dolts that thinks it is funny and clever, but is neither.
The free market is going to do better the next time around, I just know it.
Our next hand is SURE to be a straight flush!
Ben Cutis totally collapsed.
financing on comm re is different because both sides are sophisticated. in theory.
dont know if that matters.
Obviously there is still some blood to be wrung from the turnip.
Then what.
Fuck off troll.
How could this once-proud nation have changed so much, so drastically, in what seems like the blink of an eye, George Bush has brought us from a prosperous nation at peace to a broke nation at war.
Unrepentant Fenian
The man's life history tells the tale -- he has the antiMidas touch. Everything he's ever touched turned to shit.
He destroyed every business he was ever involved in. He's destroyed the Republican Party. And he destroyed America.
the WSJ headline today is so hilariously bad.
What would Pat Buchanan have to say to get himself fired from MSNBC?
Maddow challenges Buchanan on race
July 16: MSNBC's Rachel Maddow invites Pat Buchanan to explain (and debate) his column in Human Events calling on Republicans to treat Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor with contempt for being a beneficiary of affirmative action.
and Iraq.
Ben Cutis totally collapsed.
Wow. He sure did.
From 65 to 80...
John Daly at +2 after 2 rounds in the Brit Open.
I'm surprised he's still among the living.
both sides are sophisticated
Bwaaahahahahahaha. Greed has chunks of sophistication in its stool.
-
Meanwhile, over there
http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.ph...7279&
Itemid=128
Sorry for being late for the previous topic, but for "newspaper commentator hate," try this: you'd think a story entitled "Young victim of gunshot back home and walking" would be the sort of story everyone could rally around. You'd be wrong.
Max Keiser calls it:
Pt 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V...h?
v=VSwWy4E6I04
Pt 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z...h?
v=ZoQrYa_NKQQ
Finally someone speaks the truth on teevee.
Sorry here's the link:
http://www.topix.net/forum/
sourc...CAHJOCVJ14MCPGC
"The Joy of Sachs"-
Gotta hand it to Krugman.
The man's life history tells the tale -- he has the antiMidas touch. Everything he's ever touched turned to shit.
"King Midas in Reverse".
There wasa report on NPR yesterday, that the massive facilities no longer needed by the new "lean" GM are so large, that nobody is willing to occupy the entire space, that they have to parcel it out.
Thanks for all of the birthday greetings, mes amis!
I'm usually quite depressed on my birthday, probably because my father died at 48, and I was dreading the approaching day.
Well, today is the day, and I now stand an excellent chance of being dead before Christmas and I couldn't be happier.
~
Meander, I ATE'NT DEAD yet | Homepage | 07.17.09 - 9:44 am | #
~
.... um..... yay?
Gummo | 07.17.09 - 9:45 am | #
Yay, indeed. I made at least that far.
~
ATE'NT ?
"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness."
John Kenneth Galbraith.
"The Joy of Sachs"-
Gotta hand it to Krugman.
Raoul Paste
It was just laying there - It would have been wasteful not to do something with that gag.
~
"The Next Crisis"
there's probably a drug for that.
Meander,
Happy birthday! Many happy returns!
Trademark Dave --
About a month ago I went onto a local Brooklyn blog just for some pix of the David Byrne show at Prospect Park. Couldn't be a more innocuous topic, right?
Well, the comments were full of troll telling everyone else their tastes sucked, that everyone who went to concerts at the park were Yuppie scum, that Byrne was a ripoff, a sellout, that everyone who liked him was old and stupid, etc. etc. etc.
There are people who literally do nothing else but troll the internets. There is no topic too innocent, no story too trivial. They live to troll.
It's really sad.
Meander, merry birthday!
The key is knowing what the next next crisis is going to be, and profiteering off that.
Me, I'm stocking up on squirrel meat.
The Sears Tower in Chicago and the Chrysler Building in New York City, are kind of monuments to heady days (and businesses' brawniness) long gone.
And bindles!
I'm gonna be sitting pretty when Peak Bindle hits.
Pets or meat.
Goldman, famously, made a lot of money selling securities backed by subprime mortgages — then made a lot more money by selling mortgage-backed securities short, just before their value crashed. All of this was perfectly legal, but the net effect was that Goldman made profits by playing the rest of us for suckers.
super duper.
Media Matters is taking Pat Buchanan to task for saying that Sonia Sotomayor has never written a law review article when, in fact, she has written several.
Now, now, Media Matters. He didn't say she hadn't written a law review article; he said she hadn't written a law review article that he'd read.
"King Midas in Reverse".
Billy B
Damn, every thought I've ever had turns to out to have been said first and better in a pop song.
.. They live to troll.
It's really sad.
Gummo
The Yahoo stock pages are Racist Central. It is unbelievable.
euphronius : ATE'NT ?
From Discworld's Granny Weatherwax, whose "relationship with the written word is strained, bordering on combative":
"In Wyrd Sisters, her second appearance, she makes contact with the very mind of Lancre itself. However, while her mind is out Borrowing, her body falls into a catatonic, almost death-like trance; it is revealed in Lords And Ladies that in order to prevent embarrassing accidents, she has taken to wearing a placard reading "I ATE'NT DEAD" [sic] when she does so."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Gra...anny_Weatherwax
~
There are people who literally do nothing else but troll the internets. There is no topic too innocent, no story too trivial. They live to troll.
Yes. A picture of fluffy bunnies and newborn puppies will turn into a racist flamewar within about, oh, 48 hours.
I read enough pop-culture blogs (and their comments) to know that I'm a giant sellout who doesn't know what's real, man. Because anything anyone has heard of is by definition terrible. And enjoying things is a false idea.
Pat Buchanan: MSNBC's resident Nazi symapthizer.
Happy Birthday Meander - but can I ask why you said you would be dead before Christmas? Please tell us you are joking.
I don't think Sears actually had anything to do with the Sears Tower, other than the name, for many years.
And enjoying things is a false idea.
Jay C.
Emotions are for weaklings, yeah.
Welcome to the New & Improved Feudalism.
......The Lords(Fortune 500 CEOs) rule the land from their castles(now called corporations).
.....The weak king(formerly known as the US Government)wrings its hands in fear of the Lords.
....the people,(or serfs),are helpless labor fodder.
reading internet comments has taught me that most things are gay.
Yikes. Apparently Pat Buchanan told Rachel Maddow that 100% of the people who died at Gettysburg were white men as well as 100% of the people killed at Normandy.
Scary.
The empty storefronts are adding up around here.
Emotions are for weaklings, yeah.
Gummo
Although I'm quite pleased that the "character trolls" at one of my favorite blogs have combined forces- the David Caruso joke troll and the Dalek troll are now the Dalek Caruso troll. It's just more efficient trolling, and a courtesy to regular readers.
Jill : Happy Birthday Meander - but can I ask why you said you would be dead before Christmas? Please tell us you are joking.
My father died on Thanksgiving in his 48th year. I'm 48 today.
Otherwise - joking. 
~
100% of the people in this office are white men.
Nice to see the Prez stumping for Corzine yesterday.
Warms the heart to know he'll make time for a former co-chair of Goldman Sachs who's moved on to screwing people over as a Governor.
Maybe Robert Rubin will run for office!
reading internet comments has taught me that most things are gay.
euphronius failure
I've gotten the opposite vibe. That most things are anti-gay. Or at least, derisive of gay.
the David Caruso joke troll and the Dalek troll are now the Dalek Caruso troll. It's just more efficient trolling, and a courtesy to regular readers.
Jay C.
Okay, I love this idea!
EXTERRRRR [REMOVES SHADES] MINATE!!!
Otherwise - joking.
Thank Goddess.
100% of the people in this office are white men.
Don't you have a wee little test to study for?
Media Matters has a post up on Pat B.
Buchanan falsely suggests Sotomayor has "never written" law review articles
MADDOW: Why do you think it is that of the 110 Supreme Court justices we've had in this country, 108 of them have been white?
BUCHANAN: Well, I think white men were 100 percent of the people that wrote the Constitution, 100 percent of the people who signed the Declaration of Independence, 100 percent of the people who died at Gettysburg and Vicksburg, probably close to 100 percent of the people who died at Normandy.
This has been a country built, basically, by white folks in this country who were 90 percent of the entire nation in 1960 when I was growing up, Rachel, and the other 10 percent were African-Americans who had been discriminated against -- that's why.
Shame on MSNBC for hiring this racist to spew the R talking points 24/7 morning noon and night!
I've gotten the opposite vibe. That most things are anti-gay. Or at least, derisive of gay.
MP | 07.17.09 - 10:05 am | # [kill][hide comment]
indeed. this is central to my point.
There are people who literally do nothing else but troll the internets. There is no topic too innocent, no story too trivial. They live to troll.
It's really sad.
TV sites and newspaper comments' sections.
It's disturbing, too, to read a continious flow of stupid. I'm embarrassed to live in the same city as these people. They can't spell. They can't form a simple sentence. They don't understand the concept of grammar. But they have opinions -- al of which are contrary to the topic at hand, no matter how mundane.
Most of them *hate* "lie"-berals, too. Oh yeah, and they use unclever tags for everyone and everything.
The Sears Tower is now the Willis Tower.
Willis Group Holdings, a London-based insurance broker, consolidated its area offices to Sears Tower and as part of the deal, gotto put its own name on the 36-year-old skyscraper.
Willis will move nearly 500 associates into Willis Tower, at 233 S. Wacker.
"Yikes. Apparently Pat Buchanan told Rachel Maddow that 100% of the people who died at Gettysburg were white men as well as 100% of the people killed at Normandy."
she didn't correct him. gotta love the logic of the argument tho: white people did x, so only they are entitled to the benefits derived.
Pat also kept using.."and you know as well as I do" with which Rachel did not agree. Even more amazing, that first segment of her show went over 16 minutes
without a break.
EXTERRRRR [REMOVES SHADES] MINATE!!!
Gummo
Yes, exactly. Isn't that better than a regular ol' troll?
Notice PAt B dancse around the whole woman issue.
This has been a country built, basically, by white folks in this country who were 90 percent of the entire nation in 1960 when I was growing up,
*nazi klaxon*
This has been a country built, basically, by white folks in this country who were 90 percent of the entire nation in 1960 when I was growing up, Rachel, and the other 10 percent were African-Americans who had been discriminated against -- that's why.
Nazi Sympathizer Pat must have forgot that slave labor built the US Capitol and the White House.
i had a fascinating discussion with someone who just started working the DC area about this yesterday. the problem with the Village is that they literally aren't seeing this, like the rest of us. things are good for them, their friends in still thriving areas or other cities, and so they really do believe that people like atrios or krugman are just shrill extremists making up scare numbers that aren't reflected in reality.
everyone who went to concerts at the park were Yuppie scum, that Byrne was a ripoff, a sellout, that everyone who liked him was old and stupid
I shudder to think what music if any, they listen to. Probably Prussian Blue.
TV sites and newspaper comments' sections.
Shortly before that, it was the "call in" section. My local college rag had a "30 seconds" page dedicated to printing whatever invective readers chose to belch into their answering machine.
jdw, she did not have the facts to refute his crazy claims all stored up.
She gave him enough rope to hang himself, and he did.
Maybe someone should tell Pat Buchanan that white men make up 99% of the population of serial killers.
I shudder to think what music if any, they listen to. Probably Prussian Blue.
doncjesuis, Tina Fey fan | 07.17.09 - 10:07 am | #
Van Halen's third incarnation.
like Versailles, huh.
Although I like cranky letters to the editor. Especially ones where the writers have an ongoing feud against other letter writers.
But local TV and newspaper comments are AWFUL.
I hate MSNBC Nazi's.
Nazi Sympathizer Pat must have forgot that slave labor built the US Capitol and the White House.
Unrepentant Fenian
Or that European settlers would have died without help from the natives.
Or that trade with the natives (long before organized slaughter began) built this country.
Pat Buchanan is a simple-minded racist coward. What he's doing anywhere near the public discourse....
Nazi Klaxon is not a good name for a band.
she didn't correct him.
that's a shame. i want to respect her, but i keep reading ditties like this, about how she's so "polite" and uncritical of her neocon guests. unless and until she calls them out of unfacts and lies like Pat's, she'll be just another teevee face to me.
as well as 100% of the people killed at Normandy.
Scary.
Snow (D-SC)
Well, Pat didn't specify which side.
Rachel's got the facts, and doesn't need to do the blowhard routine.
This has been a country built, basically, by white folks in this country
*Financed*, not built. The Chinese weren't brought into this country by powerful businessmen to be paid large salaries in the 1860's to supervise white workers on how to build the goddamned railroads.
"She gave him enough rope to hang himself, and he did."
i don't think he did. in fact, he was hired to do just what he did, and will continue to do so.
rm teased the segment in order to get people to watch(ie ratings) and clips will be all over the internets(giving them both more exposure), and the execs at msnbc will be v. happy.
mission accomplished.
HellaScam!
Still shrill
Krugman is still not going to be believed by most Americans, even as more and more empiric evidence that his point of view is correct piles up, because he's up against the American religion, upon the armor of which all of the arrows of empirical evidence break in vain. We know, we just know, and don't need evidence, that people able to make billions must know what they're doing, must know how to run things, better than someone like Krugman who probably makes in the low six figures. If you try to make the case that what folks like the Sachs banksters know how to do so well that makes them those billions is bad for the rest of us, well, that's just class warfare and sour grapes. The personal enrichment of the super-competent is the price we pay to have their effulgent brilliance running things so that we all in this country get to be born on the third base of our hyper-rich homeland.
These folks who make billions are going to have screw things up much, much worse than they have already before the emprical results will even start to move most people off this religion of ours. Things will have gone so far by that point that the movement to demonize what was formerly deified will be lightning quick and very, very ugly in the retribution it exacts. The gods that fail get no mercy from disappointed ex-believers.
I stopped watching Rachel because of her hard on for neo cons and their ideas.
she is a little too blood thirsty for me.
I shudder to think what music if any, they listen to. Probably Prussian Blue.
doncjesuis, Tina Fey fan | 07.17.09 - 10:07 am | #
It's just about insulting people anonymously. Has nothing to do with the content.
Pat's buddy John Demjanjuk:
German prosecutors charged suspected death camp guard John Demjanjuk last week with helping to kill nearly 28,000 Jews in World War Two, setting the stage for what could be Germany's last big Nazi war crimes trial.
"State prosecutors in Munich have today charged the 89-year-old John Demjanjuk as an accessory to murder in a total of 27,900 cases," prosecutors said in a statement.
We'll disagree then jdw, you're seeing what you want to see, imo.
The Chinese weren't brought into this country by powerful businessmen to be paid large salaries in the 1860's to supervise white workers on how to build the goddamned railroads.
MP
The 2060s will be a different story.
euph, exactly. i use Village and Versailles interchangeably.
Probably Prussian Blue.
i recently learned all the really horrifying details of what this term really means. it's beyond sick that someone named their kids' band this name.
It's just about insulting people anonymously. Has nothing to do with the content.
Gummo
Yep. "Your taste in music is lame" does not require an affirmative statement of what the commenter likes to listen to instead, and it's not really worth the electrons beyond the insult factor.
Jill, since men make up only 90% of serial killers, your claim can't be true.
Dana Bash bashing health care plan. "It's been dealt a devastating blow...:"
Has something happened since last night or is she just trying to make news?
it's beyond sick that someone named their kids' band this name.
chicago dyke, late nighter
Definitely. I wouldn't even want to contemplate the mentality.
white men make up 100% of all bad US presidents.
She didn't correct him because to get into a factual argument over how many non-whites and women were at Gettysburg would have been to buy into whatever nutty narrative was in Pat's head, and irrelevant besides.
She challenged his whole world view on affirmative action and achievement, and he had no answer.
Mouseland
Isn't that the fable told by Tommy Douglas, first leader of the New Democratic Party?
There's a great animated version with a humorous intro/outro by his grandson, Keifer Sutherland:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g...h?
v=gqpFm7zAK90
Dana Bash probably woke up and read the front page of the WSJ.
which is hilarious. you should all go look at it.
Pull it down!
only 90%? my bad 
Jay C : Although I like cranky letters to the editor. Especially ones where the writers have an ongoing feud against other letter writers.
But local TV and newspaper comments are AWFUL.
It used take weeks to get a letter published. It was a Big Deal.
These comments on these sites, whatever the content, is just free-floating rage against everything.
And while I'm "obnoxious and disliked", there are a lot of things that I simply enjoy.
~
thats why i usually go to moderated forums.
except this one.
Dana Bash bashing health care plan. "It's been dealt a devastating blow...:"
Has something happened since last night or is she just trying to make news?
JT
CBO came out with a report that the plan would be too costly.
What CBO failed to mention is that the bill that they looked at was not complete and did not include the sur tax to pay for it.
Shit, I could look at a bill that wasn't finished and tell you what's wrong with it.
she was not polite and certainly not uncritical.
What was left of Buchanan's hateful little mind has finally completely dissolved. To paraphrase Dr. Venkman: "Pat has gone bye bye."
-
From TPM:
07.17.09 -- 9:24AM //
Health Care Bill Out of Committee
Three Dems joined all the Republicans on the House Ways and Means Committee to vote against the health care reform bill: Reps. Ron Kind (D-WI), Earl Pomeroy (D-ND) and John Tanner (D-TN). It made it through committee anyway early this morning.
--David Kurtz
incidentily thats one reason i love nerds and claim to be one: they are not afraid to unselfconsciously enjoy the object of their nerdiness.
Shit, I could look at a bill that wasn't finished and tell you what's wrong with it.
Unrepentant Fenian
Well, here you have Republicans contributing to it. See, that's your problem right there...
OT: Things tuning up in Tehran tonight, maybe.
======
Shahramirani: via MikVerbrugge #iranelection via #nir "Ppl moving away from Int Ministry." " Marches towards TV Station gaining in strength"
12 minutes ago from web · Reply · View Tweet
alaingibert: RT @linkrz: RT @moj98: #iranelection via #nir "Eyewitness : Tehran City Police Force not following orders to charge
======
Rafsanjani spoke a the Tehran Univ mosque tonight. Setting himself up to broker between the regieme and the moderates.
The "$1.5 trillion" meme was all over the radio this morning.
That it's off by half a trillion -- chump change! -- will go unremarked.
That Chimpy's vanity war cost that much and did nothing for the country but enriched his buddies "beyond the dreams of avarice" will also go unremarked.
Except by dirty fucking hippies that no one should take seriously, of course.
Last night, Rachel kept telling Pat "I don't believe you believe that."
Rachel, he does believe that.
Hi, I'm Barack Obama and I'm going to go through the Federal budget line by line.
Then of course, sign into law whatever Congress puts across my desk.
Because I'm about being shallow, empty and meaningless in my words when it comes to this 'new' change in government.
Thank you. Please vote for me in 2012.
I really like Rachel's affable-but-informed style. Maybe because I don't really care to argue with people when the facts aren't really the issue.
The quotes are from Twitter. So who knows what they are worth.
indeed Gummo. big propaganda blitz on teh cost incoming.
Unrepentant Fenian : CBO came out with a report that the plan would be too costly.
What CBO failed to mention is that the bill that they looked at was not complete and did not include the sur tax to pay for it.
Not to mention that the costs in that report were spread out over a decade. You pretty much have to be an outright liar to object to it.
~
line item vetos are unconstitutional.
thanks for being ignorant.
The Robber Barons had so much power that they would often actually publicly say in effect "fuck the little guy", knowing full well there was nothing anybody could do about it.
The Yahoo stock pages are Racist Central. It is unbelievable.
Dexter Methorphan
Case in point; back in the Rambus days (ah, youth) the comments even there were hideous. They got past Godwin so far being called a Nazi would have been a compliment. It must go along with the greed synonymous with day-trading...
$1 Trillion/10 years vs. bailouts/years of "off budget" wars.
The problem with Krugman's column is the implication that "the consumer" needs to be protected from the likes of Goldman Sachs. Goldman doesn't make money by taking advantage of ordinary consumers, because it interacts very little with ordinary consumers. There's a reason most people hadn't heard of Goldman Sachs until the last couple of years. Also, Krugman laments the fact that Goldman is going to pay big bonuses, despite the fact that Goldman wasn't hurt by its compensation practices and Krugman provides no argument that it was.
Krugman is right that Goldman is benefiting from an implicit government guarantee of their liabilities, but if that is cause for increased regulation, it should be in order to protect the taxpayers' investment--not to limit the ability of Goldman to make money or pay its employees.
OVER TEN YEARS
OVER TEN YEARS
OVER TEN YEARS
Rachel and Josh Marshall have both been digging into the seamy side of fundie cult The Family this week, with some good results. "Family Values" Xian GOP lawmakers having tawdry affairs seems to be the group's specialty.
What CBO failed to mention is that the bill that they looked at was not complete and did not include the sur tax to pay for it.
Can I just say that sending incomplete bills to the CBO to be "scored" is the dumbest frigging thing I've ever heard of and needs to stop. Why would you do that? It's so easy for the opponents of whatever it is to grab onto the pointless results and run with them. Why give them ammunition when they've proven their willingness to lie?
Dave in NYC Goldman funded the subprime crap, you dingdong.
Biden saying, "We have to go spend money to keep from going bankrupt" makes as much sense as when Bush said, "I've abandoned free-market principles to save the free-market system."
http://globaleconomicanalysis.bl...s.blogspot.com/
just exactly what kind of "christianity" are the republicans of "C" street practicing? There's ANOTHER lying cheating son of b*tch republican who's been having an affair while claiming to be a "christian", and living in "THE HOUSE" on C street!!!
With the all the lying, cheating, fornicating and greed that is coming out of this "christian" safe house for republicans, this ain't your daddy's christianity!!! (however he might have wished it were)
Are we going to have to listen to another whining, sniveling sob story from the latest tom cat scum bucket republican who has "fallen" from grace and the truth and decency but has somehow managed to retain his hypocracy?
Bizzack! Chores were quick, nearly effortless. So now I can have a cuppa and chill with you for a few.
Dave in NYC, ordinary consumers are where the bailout funds came from, and Krugman, at least, gets that.
CBO came out with a report that the plan would be too costly.
But that was yesterday. Last night it was being suggested that there might be an agreement as early as today.
I guess it took them overnight to pitch the story so it could favor repukes and corporatists.
MSNBC
Mr. Phil Griffin,
Senior Vice President, News
NBC Television Network
30 Rockefeller Plz
New York, NY 10112
phil.griffin@nbc.com
Steve Capus,
President, NBC News
steve.capus@nbc.com
MSNBC
letters@msnbc.com
MSNBC/Microsoft-NBC
30 Rockefeller Plz
3rd Fl
New York, NY 10112
(212) 664-4444
That's why this "let's look out for the small businesses" petticoat that the Rethugs cling to disgusts me.
They answer to the big boys, who crush small businesses for lunch, and have done so with Congressional iimprimateur for centirues.
Biden saying, "We have to go spend money to keep from going bankrupt" makes as much sense as when Bush said, "I've abandoned free-market principles to save the free-market system."
Clinton proved that it worked back in 1993. Got a big stimulus bill through. Left office with a surplus.
Smarter trolls, please.
~
From the sound of it, the C in C street stands for Concubine.
-
Steve Capus,
President, NBC News
steve.capus@nbc.com
I wonder how many letters he gets concerning Pat Buchanan in a month?
Here's the newest cheating "C Street" guy:
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpoint...eat.php?
ref=fpb
Rachel and Josh Marshall have both been digging into the seamy side of fundie cult The Family this week, with some good results. "Family Values" Xian GOP lawmakers having tawdry affairs seems to be the group's specialty.
plantsman, mad google skillz
---------------------
That's just the most selacious side. They also preach that the way we have "interpreted" the bible for centuries is wrong. They shouldn't be giving to the poor and needy, but taking it all for the rich and greedy and maybe just maybe doling out a little from time to time to the little people.
These are some horrible people who have convinced themselves that IOKIYAR.
This ain't christianity in any form, but pure evil and blasphemy.
Brian from Ohio is still trying to figure out when the federal budget moved into the $1 trillion range.
He cannot help that he is stupid.
Winger prediction spreadsheet -- send in your finds!
--->Dave in NYC | 07.17.09 - 10:21 am |
"not to limit the ability of Goldman to make money"
- - -
Obviously has not read the Rolling Stone article.
---> Snow (D-SC) | Homepage | 07.17.09 - 10:25 am
- - -
In a deep relationship with Peppermint Patty.
http://www.planet-familyguy.com/...rs/
patty_tn.jpg
Rachel has had the guy who infiltrated "C Street" and wrote the book "The Family" on her show the first 4 nights of this week.
This merger's going to be fun!
Whee!
Boss arguing with hospital about chain of command in decision making. We make decisions here fairly quickly; there, everything goes through committee to get approval. It can take months to get an ad approved!
Whee!
If Rethugs are really the champions of the small entrepreneur, why aren't they allocating billions in federal seed to a company like Tesla Motors?
Not another crisis, please.
At least wait till I've had a second cuppa.
This is Terry Gross's interview with the author of The Family. If you've got 25 minutes and don't mind being sick to your stomach by the end, give it a listen.
http://www.npr.org/templates/
sto...oryId=106115324
Dave in NYC: Libertardian or Liberturdian?
We report. You decide.
♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ Sallyh! ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
We're synched! I'm on my first cuppa, too.
Damnable Yeller Bar!
My wife just found about about the Family (through watching RM)
Vicki, isn't merging fun?
Monsieur's been bought and sold like the furniture 7 times in his career. I won't share his sentiments on what happened afterward.
Rachel and Josh Marshall have both been digging into the seamy side of fundie cult The Family this week, with some good results.
---------------
These are some horrible people who have convinced themselves that IOKIYAR.
This ain't christianity in any form, but pure evil and blasphemy.
I guess that's why Hillary Clinton is a member:
http://www.thenation.com/doc/200...0331/
ehrenreich
Clinton fell in with The Family in 1993, when she joined a Bible study group composed of wives of conservative leaders like Jack Kemp and James Baker. When she ascended to the Senate, she was promoted to what Sharlet calls the Family's "most elite cell," the weekly Senate Prayer Breakfast, which included, until his downfall, Virginia's notoriously racist Senator George Allen. This has not been a casual connection for Clinton. She has written of Doug Coe, The Family's publicity-averse leader, that he is "a unique presence in Washington: a genuinely loving spiritual mentor and guide to anyone, regardless of party or faith, who wants to deepen his or her relationship with God."
Furthermore, The Family takes credit for some of Clinton's rightward legislative tendencies, including her support for a law guaranteeing "religious freedom" in the workplace, such as for pharmacists who refuse to fill birth control prescriptions and police officers who refuse to guard abortion clinics.
the only reason Sotomayor is a judge is because so many muslim mexicans are sneaking into the vatican and rewriting abortion laws.
And I sincerely hope Patrick Buchanan brings this up soon.
It is true that only white men died at gettysburg. (baring a few individual civilians). and the troops that hit the beaches on D-DAY were 100% white. and signed the constitution.
so what? what is the point? the point was Maddow took a superficial line of reasoning about 108 / 111 supreme court justices.
It should have been: She's qualified, more so than many other SC picks. Obama chose her. so what's the problem?
Maddow was almost justifiying Pat's point that Sotam WAS a AA pick.
not a smart line of attack.
In a deep relationship with Peppermint Patty.
Are you saying you didn't ask, just yesterday, "when did a $1 trillion budget became usual?"
On MSNBC there was just a discussion about the repuke party and its "values" hypocrisy. The shouter Dylan Ratigan kept saying repukes have real issues they could rally around (like "defending the tax payer" ). Amazingly Capeheart said they should go back to fiscal responsibility as under Raygun.
Fiscal responsibility under Raygun?
{{{Jeffraham!!!}}}
How're the boys? Are they synched up with you?
Mine woke up, insisted I shake the feeder, ate, and went back to bed.
main reason i did not support HRC.
Get some lithium to Bi Sword, stat.
It is true that only white men died at gettysburg. (baring a few individual civilians). and the troops that hit the beaches on D-DAY were 100% white
Um, no. But thanks for playing.
This ain't christianity in any form, but pure evil and blasphemy.
foolme1ns | 07.17.09 - 10:25 am | #
the angels in the books of Revelations are all south and central american dictators.
Clinton's association with The Family is tangential at best; she's never lived at C Street, but go ahead being an ass...
If Rethugs are really the champions of the small entrepreneur, why aren't they allocating billions in federal seed to a company like Tesla Motors?
MP
-------------
Republicans are champions of themselves and their "little friends" and (I'm not talking about entrepreneurs). They treat them to 1st class travel, a little dining and dancing and then a poke in the whiskers whenever they get the chance, all on your dime.
the troops that hit the beaches on D-DAY were 100% white. and signed the constitution.
The troops who fought on D-Day did not sign the Constitution.
er. Marshall, Thomas, Ginsburg, Day.
that's four.
you should also include the Jews on the court . . . bat thats really another story.
the angels in the books of Revelations are all south and central american dictators.
I'm so stealing that
Goldman doesn't make money by taking advantage of ordinary consumers, because it interacts very little with ordinary consumers.
the claim that precedes your evidence is a good example of a logical fallacy. Goldman makes billions by taking advantage of ordinary consumers, despite having little to no interaction with them.
The Family can take credit for whatever they want, it's a free country. I take credit for all kinds of shit I didn't do, like the brief popularity of Pogs.
Joe Blow : Maddow was almost justifiying Pat's point that Sotam WAS a AA pick.
not a smart line of attack.
Rachel Maddow is disturbingly comfortable with her "Uncle" Pat Buchanan. She softballs him every time.
~
how is participating in group activities a tangential relationship?
that seems like a direct relationship.
The troops who fought on D-Day did not sign the Constitution.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 07.17.09 - 10:31 am | #
ethan allan and the green valley boys took normandy without a shot.
Joe Blow is a Buttle, and therefore, cannot be expected to THINK.
Sallyh: How're the boys? Are they synched up with you?
Mine woke up, insisted I shake the feeder, ate, and went back to bed.
Mine said, "There's not enough foodie-food -- go git some!" and so, I did.
Now the only thang left is to shower and dress and head to ESS.
"There is a vast world of work out there in this country, where at least 111 million people are employed in this country alone--many of whom are bored out of their minds. All day long. Not for nothing is their motto TGIF -- 'Thank God It's Friday.' They live for the weekends, when they can go do what they really want to do."
-Richard Nelson Bolles, What Color is Your Parachute?, 1970
On MSNBC there was just a discussion about the repuke party and its "values" hypocrisy. The shouter Dylan Ratigan kept saying repukes have real issues they could rally around (like "defending the tax payer" ). Amazingly Capeheart said they should go back to fiscal responsibility as under Raygun.
------------------------
Yeah. They will save the taxpayers from spenditures like good jobs, while using tax payer money to fly to Arentina to play hide the sausage with their whores.
Get some lithium to Bi Sword, stat.
Yes! We don't want it telling the truth about Hillary Clinton being a member of the The Family.
When I first heard it, I thought they meant she was a lesbian!
http://www.motherjones.com/polit...on-and-
politics
Although, maybe that's why she joined... she knew she'd get privacy to conduct her affairs.
I'm so stealing that
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 07.17.09 - 10:32 am | #
sounds like a Rivera mural doesn't it?
Sorry - but the 'buffs' strike again. Long article in this morning's Salon about Arlington Cemetary and how it's being taken care of. There's an 'historian' there who is in charge of the materiel left at the graves. This is a federal government historian, apparently. These are his qualifications:
"Sherlock, 46, came to work at Arlington Cemetery almost 25 years ago. He had
graduated from the University of Maryland with a degree in American
history, gotten married and thought he might look for a job in the
government.
A special civil service exam was being offered one Saturday, the
same day that Maryland played the University of North Carolina in
basketball. An avid Terps fan, Sherlock figured he would watch the
game on television.
But his wife "gently hounded me to the point where I took the
exam instead of watching the game. It really hurt . . . but I took
the exam that landed me here."
The cemetery hired him as an "information receptionist," to
answer questions from tourists. A military-history buff since
childhood, Sherlock would use his lunch break to stroll through the
cemetery and see which names on gravestones evoked history lessons
from his school days.
Just months after being hired, with the nation's bicentennial
about to begin, he was named the cemetery's official historian, the
second person to hold the job. His first big event was the 1975
visit by the Queen of England. Fourteen heads of state also paid
their respects at Arlington that year. And Sherlock, who has no
staff, has been writing down what happens at the cemetery ever
since."
"To Arlington Cemetery Worker, Vets' Sacrifices Aren't Mere
Memories, by Stephen Barr, Washington Post, Monday , May 29, 2000"
I just -know- he's the best qualified historian evah.
As seen on a bumpersticker in Chicago...
- - -
"The Labor Movement: From Those Who Brought You The Weekend"
Fiscal responsibility under Raygun?
The Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 1982 was the biggest increase since WWII. The tax increase signed by Ronald Reagan, rescinding some of the effects of his huge tax cut passed the year before.
That 1982 tax increase only slightly exceeded Clinton's in inflation-adjusted dollars ($37 billion a year vs.. $32 billion) but it was much bigger in relation to the size of the economy. The '82 increase amounted to 0.8% of GDP (average for the first two years) while Clinton's was 0.5%.
Clinton's association with The Family is tangential at best;
if by tangential you mean an active, ongoing member for more than 15 years then yes, her association is "tangential"
euph, you'd argue anything, and I know that; but I'd say living in what The Family calls a "church" in DC is a closer relationship than "participating in activities." YMMV.
Um, no. But thanks for playing.
Snow (D-SC) | Homepage | 07.17.09 - 10:31 am
err yes. Blacks in the Union were not there and were not allowed in the confederacy until March 1965.
There were some slaves and orderlies, but no record any were killed.
you missed my period after D-Day. Are you saying that the signers of the Declaration were NOT all white males? who owned property?
The reason we lag behind the research and infrastructure development to get off of oil consumption, is because the policy makers don't want that.
Back in the 90's, what US motor vehicle manufacturing company had the biggest clout to force that transition, and get in on the ground floor?
General Motors. Instead, they went with the Suburban, and Tahoe. The easy, immediate. money.
They stuck with the 1920's energy model, cuz that would boost the share price the highest, the quickest.
"The Labor Movement: From Those Who Brought You The Weekend"
Brian from Ohio
Marxist traitors!
So this place has sorta become the "inbox" for complaints against the media, hasn't it Duncan?
I've stopped watching and listening to everything, personally.
Tell me again why we're in a recession? I thought the banks we all so broke they could not lend a dime. Or maybe it was that they were too paranoid that the other guy wasn't going to post 4 or 5 billion dollar profits? Seems to me that the whole thing was a scam to break the "little" investors. Goldman and the rest seem to have gone mission accomplished in stealing from everyone with out any consequences.
Tell me again why it was so critical that the congress bankrupt the country to prevent us from economic collapse? Are we not there now?
err yes. Blacks in the Union were not there and were not allowed in the confederacy until March 1965.
The telegram traveled very slowly.
Would be a big deal, if true.
====
cfritzsche: RT @RostamShiran: #iranelection all employees of IRIB left the building!
1 minute ago from web · Reply · View Tweet
====
IRIB is the gov't news media.
ok. she was not hte most active member. fair enough.
hey i still would have voted for her in the general. you know.
Im just saying her right wing religiosity is freaky.
the slow telegram.
paul mccartney concert interrupted with news flash.
Robert E. Lee has surrendered.
No, RM was making a larger point, not about Sotomayor, but about American history and the role of AA in our time.
The huge deficits Raygun passed on to Clinton are the opposite of "fiscal responsibility."
---> DFH in Dubrovnik | 07.17.09 - 10:36 am
"Un croquis vaut mieux qu’un long discours."
"A sketch is better than a long speech."
-Napoleon
Joe Blow is a Buttle, and therefore, cannot be expected to THINK.
plantsman, mad google skillz | Homepage | 07.17.09 - 10:33 am | #
what? I am a history buff and know all this crap.
Blacks were not allowed in combat units until later. In June 44 they were service troops. They were the main people who made the "Red-Ball Express" run.
I wasn't allowed into the union until December 1975.
We'd like to thank you all for coming to
Woodstock man and we're thinking of breakfast in bed and man I gotta let you dig this:
The battle of Bull Run has finally ended man........
I am still eager to hear Brian's explanation how Space Ghost of the free market is going to resolve our health insurance problems.
repukers against labor unions: Bring back the 7 day work week at minimum wage!
I decided after her "hard working people...White people" remark that I could not vote for her. But I don't think she's a big-wig in The Family.
And now, General Motors' management has put themselves in a position to do nothing other than rely on the kindness of strangers.
Pathetic.
no one knows how many african americans who were "passing" and were fighting so its dumb.
regarldelss its dumb cause it proves nothing. As i said, people in this office right now are 100% white.
Im just saying her right wing religiosity is freaky.
Lord knows, devout Methodists are scary.
These days, Clinton has graduated from the political wives' group into what may be Coe's most elite cell, the weekly Senate Prayer Breakfast. Though weighted Republican, the breakfast—regularly attended by about 40 members—is a bipartisan opportunity for politicians to burnish their reputations, giving Clinton the chance to profess her faith with men such as Brownback as well as the twin terrors of Oklahoma, James Inhofe and Tom Coburn, and, until recently, former Senator George Allen (R-Va.). Democrats in the group include Arkansas Senator Mark Pryor, who told us that the separation of church and state has gone too far; Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) is also a regular.
Didn't need no welfare state,
Everybody pulled his weight.
Gee our old LaSalle ran great.
I'll never forget when Sherman's army rampaged across my elementary school playground in 1986.
Im just saying her right wing religiosity is freaky.
Hillary? Is this a joke?
Ben and Jerrys announce 'Harper's Ferry Flamingo Chewy' in honor of the first chocolate bullet
(okay this makes no sense whatsover)
I'll never forget when Sherman's army rampaged across my elementary school playground in 1986.
Jay C. | 07.17.09 - 10:39 am | #
it was hell.
yes. hillary.
see her direct participation in right wing religious events while a senator.
The DINOs deletion of the card check provisions from the labor bill was a craven betrayal. I hope the unions run hard against every one of these assholes in the primaries.
oh my a history buff
send GE your resume and tell them that rachel isn't smart like you
Vicki, isn't merging fun?
Whee!
I smell huge power trippers in my future.
Calc is at -5 in the BO.
It's old man week.
"A sketch is better than a long speech."
-Napoleon
Brian from Ohio | 07.17.09 - 10:37 am | #
"A handjob is better than a day job"
-- Sartre
Of course, you probably know more about the former than the latter.
She isn't a Senator any more. Do try to keep up.
HRC is pretty good at keeping up superficial appearances to keep various things off the table in her campaigns. They don't mean anything, other than that she knows how to placate various whining constituencies with symbolic gestures. i.e. she's a skilled politician and chooses the battles that matter.
-
"regarldelss its dumb cause it proves nothing. As i said, people in this office right now are 100%"
right. my point too. so what if they were white. Now is now and is she qualified or not? with more experience than any recent nomimee and a variety of legal positions under her belt... of course she is!
so what is the problem? all this empathy and racist stuff is just made-up.
of course she and others are involved in right wing christian american thought.
it's not like there are a lot of kuchinichs and wellstones running around.
I am still eager to hear Brian's explanation how Space Ghost of the free market is going to resolve our health insurance problems.
Professor Wagstaff
One insurance company will undercut another in a Darwinian frenzy until all die but the fittest, and then we will have single payer!
I'll never forget when Sherman's army rampaged across my elementary school playground in 1986.
Jay C.
I think a New York printing company got the contract for printing a lot of the Confederate currency.
oh my a history buff
send GE your resume and tell them that rachel isn't smart like you
C/T, translator | Homepage | 07.17.09 - 10:41 am | #
Remember the troll who said "Although not myself a psychiatrist..."?
Good times!
Im just saying her right wing religiosity is freaky.
Lord knows, devout Methodists are scary.
see her direct participation in right wing religious events while a senator.
You mean, the National Prayer Breakfast? The one sponsored by the government? And what exactly constitutes a 'right wing religious event'?
card check has 50 votes too.
so sad.
Ironically, the people against it complain that it is "undemocratic" adn then allow a minority of senators to defeat a proposal favored by majorities in teh house and senate.
Just a quick drive-by blogwhore, good people, before I head for a conference:
Returning vets and mental health issues: who could have imagined?
"A handjob is better than a day job"
-- Sartre
worker's rights!
Was Hillary a true believer in The Family's theology of fascist theocracy?
Or was she just an opportunist who leant credence to The Family in the hopes she could win Christian-winger votes when she ran for President?
i didnt come here to argue the religious bona fides of HRC.
even though i did.
so i will cede the point claiming ignorance and general dumbfuckery on my part.
not to the puns.
Playgrounds are Hell.
"A handjob is better than a day job"
-- Sartre
Per usual, I will quote Simels without attribution at some point this weekend, to rapturous applause.
Joe, RM did make that very point.
It was Pat who brought up Normandy. Rachel mentioned the 108 justices because she was pointing we have always had affirmative action in this country, for white people.
Dave in NYC, ordinary consumers are where the bailout funds came from, and Krugman, at least, gets that.
plantsman, mad google skillz
plantsman, you know as well as I do that when Krugman talks about "consumer protection", he is not focusing on safeguarding of taxpayer dollars, which as I said should be the primary concern (along with the stability of the economy as a whole). Rather, he is talking about increased regulation of financial products--you know, the stuff that those consumers actually consume.
I think the government's job should be to make sure that consumers have as much information as possible, and are as educated as possible, about the financial products they consume. Not really a big fan of added restrictions on what products can and can't be offered. I think the banks have figured out that they shouldn't be offering many sub-prime mortgages anymore. And it's not like the government figured it out before them--Fannie and Freddie still own a lot of this stuff, even if it wasn't their main business.
Playgrounds are Hell.
There are no Atheists on Jungle Gyms.
You know, I really hate my fucking party right now.
Less than I hate Republicans, but still.
---> smalfish | 07.17.09 - 10:36 am
Think of it this way.
Why did Paul Krugman call his book the "Great Unraveling"?
We've been down this road before. It was the people themselves who turned the tide, not any political party.
Remember the 'Politics of Boom and Bust' 1920-1932 ?
That was a time of individualistic, business-oriented society.
Laissez-faire incompetent conservativism of three Republican presidents...
What did you think would happen on Wall Street and The Hill when Dubya scorched all chances of his party's success for the future?
"send GE your resume and tell them that rachel isn't smart like you"
bite me! I said it was a dumb line of attack to take . She should have shown how Pat was wrong she was an AA pick. and get him to say really stupid stuff. instead he went off on how great white males were.
I think she does a good job. at least she gets out more facts than most anyone but Jon Stuart.
Which would be worse?
You're the worst.
The other thing doesn't matter.
Dave in NYC you are an ignorant tard.
no offnese.
but you seem to be ignorant or willfully blind to 150 years of Wall Street criminality and skullfuckery.
yes yes more info is all we need. idiot.
You mean, the National Prayer Breakfast? The one sponsored by the government? And what exactly constitutes a 'right wing religious event'?
GWPDA Heroine of the Workplace | 07.17.09 - 10:42 am | #
When Clinton first came to Washington in 1993, one of her first steps was to join a Bible study group. For the next eight years, she regularly met with a Christian "cell" whose members included Susan Baker, wife of Bush consigliere James Baker; Joanne Kemp, wife of conservative icon Jack Kemp; Eileen Bakke, wife of Dennis Bakke, a leader in the anti-union Christian management movement; and Grace Nelson, the wife of Senator Bill Nelson, a conservative Florida Democrat.
Clinton's prayer group was part of the Fellowship (or "the Family"), a network of sex-segregated cells of political, business, and military leaders dedicated to "spiritual war" on behalf of Christ, many of them recruited at the Fellowship's only public event, the annual National Prayer Breakfast. (Aside from the breakfast, the group has "made a fetish of being invisible," former Republican Senator William Armstrong has said.) The Fellowship believes that the elite win power by the will of God, who uses them for his purposes. Its mission is to help the powerful understand their role in God's plan.
http://www.motherjones.com/polit...politics?
page=2
Well, the Missouri Synod is pretty right-wing evangelical and they're Methodists. Congresscritter Dave Reichert is one.
You know, I really hate my fucking party right now.
I found that making that Savoury Onion bread receipt helped quite a lot. Particularly if you grind some fresh black pepper on top.
Buchanan is right about shifting demographics changing the makeup of what he perceives america to be.
everything changes.
200 years ago gay martians controlled most of the Smoky Mountains.
Until their historic treaty with Tecumseh.
There are no Atheists on Jungle Gyms.
AndyG
Who the hell was working the marketing department back then?
They were either "Jungle Gyms" or "Monkey Bars".
Lord knows, devout Methodists are scary.
GWPDA
BTW, I checked out Bill's speaking at the National Prayer Breakfast. He sure did. As did every sitting president starting with Eisenhower. Of course, President Obama spoke at the breakfast this year.
And yes, Hillary and Tipper attended a few Bible study sessions. Heh, I really don't understand why anybody would believe that Hillary would be a major player in an organization that is patriarchal to the nth degree.
Gorilla Glue!
Well, the Missouri Synod is pretty right-wing evangelical and they're Methodists. Congresscritter Dave Reichert is one.
As Methodists go, that's a real small minority.
And it's not like the government figured it out before them . . . unless, of course, you believe there once was an Act called Glass/Steagull . . .
We've been down this road before. It was the people themselves who turned the tide, not any political party.
Another blame the people argument?
Dave, don't run the "you know as well as I do" crap on me -- you don't know what I know, nor I you. Suffice it to say, I trust the thinking of Nobel Prize Winner Krugman more than I do a blowhard on a blog.
Dave in NYC, with all due respect, I think your argument for not adding more regulation is wrong.
As for educating people, that's a fallacious assumption. The idea all along has been to keep the public as ignorant as possible.
what? I am a history buff and know all this crap.
No, you don't.
It's my good buddy Billy B. How's it hanging Billy, give 'em hell boy.
By the way, Daly is even, not 2 over.
Joe Blow | 07.17.09 - 10:35 am |
The stupid is strong in this one.
There are no Atheists on Jungle Gyms.
AndyG | Homepage | 07.17.09 - 10:45 am | #
I always liked the observation that Methodists never fuck standing up for fear that someone will think they are dancing.
http://thecurrent.theatlantic.co...-
fellowship.php
When I was profiling her two years ago, I learned about her involvement with a secretive Christian organization called The Fellowship that has operated in the Washington shadows since the 1930s. I found the story of Clinton and The Fellowship so bizarre that I made it the lede to my piece. In light of recent events, it's worth revisiting.
If you've never heard of The Fellowship (also known as The Family), it will sound like some shadowy organization in a John Grisham novel. (Indeed, as a Google search will demonstrate, critics consider it a cult.) The group was formed in the 1930s to minister to political and business leaders throughout the world, modeling itself as a kind of Christian Trilateral Commission. Several members of Congress are affiliated with the group, mostly Republicans, but some Democrats, too. To the extent The Fellowship is known beyond its members it is probably for founding the annual National Prayer Breakfast in Washington.
----------------
But it's activities go far beyond that, and Clinton has been an active member in The Family's secretive meetings for a long time.
See Jeff Sharlet's piece in Harper's:
http://www.harpers.org/archive/2...2003/03/
0079525
A joke, I tell you.
-
Auntie, baking is indeed therapeutic. Maybe that's why I do so much of it.
my point too. so what if they were white. Now is now and is she qualified or not?
Now is now! Let's just forget that I broke your leg, tied you up, and hit you over the head with an iron! So what if I ate all your food, took your running shoes and sold them to get myself delux running shoes, and gave myself a 1,000 yard headstart. Now is now! Let's see who can run this race the fastest!
Incog,
Someone compared you to Lindsay Graham yesterday.
That seems to fit you well.
And fuck you.
From my mother's sleep I fell into the State,
And I hunched in its belly till my wet fur froze.
Six miles from earth, loosed from its dream of life,
I woke to black flak and the nightmare fighters.
When I died they washed me out of the turret with a hose.
They were either "Jungle Gyms" or "Monkey Bars".
MP | 07.17.09 - 10:46 am | #
tommy lippindale, 9, never got over the shame of his playground error:
"Let's go to the Monkey Gym everybody."
Incong??
where?
As Methodists go, that's a real small minority.
Didn't mean to imply otherwise, my point was, even in supposedly more 'moderate' faiths there are still some crazies.
oh yes I do. there were three points made by Pat. they were actually true. are you saying they weren't?
I'm saying it doesn't matter. Maddow should have said that. That is not "stupid" to say. its an opinion.
Who fucks standing up? Your partner will then have to be at least somewhat identical to your own height.
Gumbo Martyr-Complex has returned?
I always liked the observation that Methodists never fuck standing up for fear that someone will think they are dancing.
Where I grew up that was the South Baptists.
Methodists had no prohibition against dancing.
bite me - she did show how wrong he was, she talked about SS's qualifications. But her goal was to challenge his whole world view.
Pat didn't say any stupid stuff? Oh?
yes he did go off - and then she challenged him.
Yes, rootless, I've read the article, all of it. And there's rather a lot of difference between attending prayer meetings and being an actual member of the little group on C Street. Honest.
Note to Trolls:
It's not "Duncan."
It's "Maestro."
How can Methodists be scary? They make the best pies evah!
Someone has Methodists confused with Baptists. /astaire & rogers
-
Incong??
where?
Julio Graham.
Heh, I really don't understand why anybody would believe that Hillary would be a major player in an organization that is patriarchal to the nth degree.
The hating on Hillary never ends. It's odd; it's almost as if there were something else behind it. But I'm sure there's no unconscious sexism here.
Billy's on fire! That's what made him King of the Sandbox. Go Billy. Damn boy but you do have a way with words.
*checks spreadsheet*
hmmmm..
I dont see that one, but ill add a notation next to Julio that it is under review.
Suffice it to say, I trust the thinking of Nobel Prize Winner Krugman more than I do a blowhard on a blog.
plantsman, mad google skillz
So you admit it, you *do* have some trust for bloggy blowhards.
Heh.
Hecate, why, of course not. And the patriarchy has nothing to do with it. Right?
I desperately need a second cuppa.
Who fucks standing up? Your partner will then have to be at least somewhat identical to your own height.
You obviously have not watched enough Linda Fiorentino movies.
Yo incog graham -
were you at blissfest?
see my homerun above!
male/female
90% of yankee 'liberals' are moderate fascists.
"Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator"
are you saying whe WAS and AA pick? That's Pat's argument.
I said (directly from your quote)
"with more experience than any recent nomimee and a variety of legal positions under her belt... of course she is!"
geez.. take yes for an answer people.
Can we have a texas cage match between the Hillary haters and the PUMAs? That would be excellent.
Even better - Thunderdome: Several dozen freaks enter. No one leaves.
-
Dylan Ratigan: Technology is what America has become America for.
It's amazing what you can learn from a panel of windbags.
---> Dave in NYC | 07.17.09 - 10:44 am
Should J.Aron have asked the Commodity Futures Trading Commission in 1991 to give Goldman-Sachs a "Bona Fide Hedging" exemption?
julio is a Buttle, it is not incog.
I know a bigshot at Goldman Sachs who believes that every Brooks Brothers store in the universe except 346 Madison Avenue sells irregular goods. He told me this while I was wearing a tie I got at the Brooks factory outlet in Michigan City, Indiana.
No wonder they are so successful.
Can we have a texas cage match between the Hillary haters and the PUMAs? That would be excellent.
Even better - Thunderdome: Several dozen freaks enter. No one leaves.
-
Tralfaz |
I'm no PUMA.
"yes he did go off - and then she challenged him.C/T, translator | "
More! More! I wanted more stupid stuff!!
How can Methodists be scary? They make the best pies evah!
Indeed - thus the Methodist Ladies Pie Tent at the NM State Fair! Raisin sour cream.... Dutch apple... LEMON MERINGUE IS NOT EVIL!
so rachel should have said it doesn't matter who was Gettysburg? But it clearly does matter why 108 justices have been white - because they were uniquely qualified? No. That's the point, and it's more important than Sotomayor.
i dont hate HRC.
I just said her "apparent" "relationship" with right wing religious facists was a negative in her column in the primaries.
Thank Gawd Dylan Ratigan is almost over.
More! More! I wanted more stupid stuff!!
. . . uh, mission accomplished . . .
PUMAs are a silly Internet obsession, like Rick Astley.
I'm no PUMA.
Turns out, even though we supported Obama and worked to get him elected, if we ever support Hillary in anything, we're PUMAs. So even though we chose party unity, we're apparently people who think "Party Unity, My Ass." It makes perfect sense.
Yes, rootless, I've read the article, all of it. And there's rather a lot of difference between attending prayer meetings and being an actual member of the little group on C Street. Honest.
You dipshit.
The Family is sex-segregated.
C Street is a male living quarters.
However, they apparently are allowed to bring their mistresses their to party. See Rachel Maddow last night:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4...h?v=4vsDQG-
FK4w
But why would Clinton want anything to do with The Family?
You're saying she was only an intimate member for 15 years as an opportunist who was hoping to trick evangelicals into voting for her?
or rick james
You obviously have not watched enough Linda Fiorentino movies.
Tlazolteotl | 07.17.09 - 10:52 am | #
I actually know somebody who had a roll in the hay with her back in their respective student days.
Whenever I see him, I'm always in full "I'm not worthy!" mode.
Yes, rootless, I've read the article, all of it. And there's rather a lot of difference between attending prayer meetings and being an actual member of the little group on C Street. Honest.
GWPDA Heroine of the Workplace | 07.17.09 - 10:50 am | #
There's a lot of difference between being a decades long member of a secretive prayer group and attending a once a year public ceremony.
plantsman, give Billy B his due, he was the King of the Sandbox for 5 straight years in elementary school. Of course he spent 2 years in 5th and 3 in 6th grades. But he was the best of all time.
Billy gets pissed when some one questions his wild logic.
Anybody recall from their history, the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Smo...wley_Tariff_Act
Ah here it is. I found it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o...h?
v=oHg5SJYRHA0
in that Video HRC described her membership in The Family and how she thinks people like Macaca and Hatch are good religious role models to be followed by everyoen.
There are sheets.
i dont hate HRC.
I just said her "apparent" "relationship" with right wing religious facists was a negative in her column in the primaries.
And thank the Goddess Obama never panders to the xian right wingers. It made such a clear distinction between the two of them.
Oh, wait.
Or, as Ms. Whackadoo of MN likes to call it, "Hoot-Smalley."
ut I'm sure there's no unconscious sexism here.
As opposed to The Family's blatant sexism?
I just said her "apparent" "relationship" with right wing religious facists was a negative in her column in the primaries.
Who except maybe Kucinich didn't pay some lip service to those superstitious hucksters? Certainly Obama has, to at least the extent Hilary has. Do you think Hilary would have had that odious fucker Rick Wright at her inauguration?
secretive prayer group
Hunh?
Auntie GWPDA, there was one Methodist church in our town while I was growing up. The only time I ever had pie was when they held their bake sale.
Hecate, that was a negative in Obama's column, too.
Easy. See my post defending Hillary above.
I just got sick of the whining, which reminded me of the PUMAs whining from the other side.
-
The hating on Hillary never ends. It's odd; it's almost as if there were something else behind it. But I'm sure there's no unconscious sexism here.
Don't be tiresome.
And thank the Goddess Obama never panders to the xian right wingers. It made such a clear distinction between the two of them.
Oh, wait.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 07.17.09 - 10:57 am | #
what distinction?
it's like 'national league' and 'american league' baseball.
I see Hecate beat me to the punch.
[passes fizzy beverage]
ARRGH!!!
JESUS CHRIST!! i supported HRC through February!!
YES OBAMA SUCKS TOO!!!
WE WERENT TALKING ABOUT OBAMA
!!!
ARRRRRRRRRRGGHHHHHHHHHH
The hating on Hillary never ends. It's odd; it's almost as if there were something else behind it. But I'm sure there's no unconscious sexism here.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 07.17.09 - 10:51 am | #
I've always said she's a lot better than Bill.
Billy gets pissed when some one questions his wild logic.
Douchebag incog graham.
Not Rick Wright...that Saddleback/Bareback guy. whatever his name is
The ability of Methodist ladies to bake the best pies in the world is derived from their sacrificial activities conducted during their secret prayer society meetings.
Hey, Joe Blow -
http://americancivilwar.com/
colo...oredtroops.html
Just a start... teh Google is wonderful.
saddleback mountain
C/T - OK fine but..
"so rachel should have said it doesn't matter who was Gettysburg? But it clearly does matter why 108 justices have been white - because they were uniquely qualified? No. That's the point, and it's more important than Sotomayor"
the same system that put only white males in charge at Philadelpia and put white males in the army in the CW and in the combat troops at D-Day .. is the SAME ssytem that put all those white males on the supreme court.
I think she should have made the point that those days are GONE GONE GONE and that that old system has been forever changed, to a new system, still built on money and connections and the power of the state, but with new players and they ain't all white males anymore.
If Maddow did that I missed it.
I think the banks have figured out that they shouldn't be offering many sub-prime mortgages anymore.
They'd do it again in a minute if they were allowed to disguise it as something else, make a killing and then "fuck the future."
so Joe Blow agrees with AA
good. we do too.
sub prime beef
only 2% interest for the first half hour of your meal
the only reason they arent funding subprimes is because everyone is too broke to buy houses.
Not Rick Wright...that Saddleback/Bareback guy. whatever his name is
Tlazolteotl
Rick Warren.
God i dont even like Obama!
dear god.
Just a start... teh Google is wonderful. minusp | 07.17.09 - 11:00 am | #
dude.. they weren't at Gettysburg.
Do you think Hilary would have had that odious fucker Rick Wright at her inauguration?
Tlazolteotl | 07.17.09 - 10:58 am | #
Rick Warren. And yes she would have. And it would have been a good thing to do.
I think she should have made the point that those days are GONE GONE GONE
Yeah. That's why there are so many women in positions of power--like almost 50%, right?
Funny that when Hillary plays the politician, she's evil incarnate.
When Obama panders, it's just politics.
Hilarious.
"so Joe Blow agrees with AA
good. we do too.
euphronius failure | 07.17.09 - 11:01 am | # "
not really. I don't think its a big deal or factor in what happens. People get breaks and chances all the time. most fail badly.
"JT | 07.17.09 - 11:04 am | # "
oh yeah.. well.. maybe just one GONE! was in order. times are changing but they ain't changed yet.
It's the combination of self-righteous secularism and political naivete that is so charming.
When Obama panders, it's just politics.
Hilarious.
pie
Interesting how that works, isn't it? But when you start from the premise that she is evil incarnate ...
dude.. they weren't at Gettysburg.
Funny how someone who wasn't at Gettysburg could be captured at Gettysburg.
Funny how someone who wasn't there could have been decapitated by a Confederate artillery shell.
Funny how the 320th Anti-Aircraft Battalion didn't land at Normandy on June 6, 1944.
Funny how black medics weren't running around the Normandy beaches patching up wounded soldiers.
I think she should have made the point that those days are GONE GONE GONE
Yeah. That's why there are so many women in positions of power--like almost 50%, right?
That's the point as I take it: the days where white men get to rule just because they set up the rules long ago in a system where nobody else could are gone.
Pat needs to get over it.
"don't do anything"-cuntservatives
"The above group of African American medics landed on Utah Beach/Normandy on D-Day + 4,"
320th Anti-Aircraft Battalion
Four members of the 320th died.
"Corporal Dabney was a rarity in a European war that in its early days was fought almost entirely by whites."
4/~4,000 ==> 99.9% were white.
I am not saying that blacks did not fight and die in WWII or in the CW.
I did not like that Maddow let crazy Pat say what he did as if it had a point re the nomination. My opinion is that a "So what?" response would have been better than "what about 108/111" or whatever.
You don't have a good argument on the facts cited. I think the correct argument is that what does that have to do with the price of beans?
As for educating people, that's a fallacious assumption. The idea all along has been to keep the public as ignorant as possible.
No, it's not a "fallacious assumption"; it's not an "assumption" at all. It's a proposal. If you don't think the government can be effective in educating and informing people, how can you be confident they will be an even remotely competent regulator?
Dave in NYC you are an ignorant tard.
no offnese.
euhpronius failure, go fuck yourself. Offense intended.
dude.. they weren't at Gettysburg.
Joe Blow
Uh, dude, they were fighting (!) in the Confederacy from '63... care to amend prior statements? Thought not...
Anyway two regiments or more at Vicksburg, raised in MS by Hiram Rhodes Revels... look it up.
'mout
The "temporary" "liquidity crisis" of last September is going to return this September again. The stimulus kept the banks going, but they didn't increase lending because they were just trying to cash out and meet their ongoing liabilities.
The greedy get greedier, and the poor get poorer.
200 dollar oil!!
.
Only Krugman would see all the big banks making huge profits while still taking write-downs, and be depressed.
Even CIT suddenly found they have assets they could sell, if they really have to (bet that's why the Fed said no), to raise funds.
Yes, small/medium size commercial banks are going to be under pressure. That's why they have the FDIC, and that's why interest rates are still low.
.
This whole stock market thing is total manipulation. Last week the amazing Roubini was saying tough times are still here and will be for some time. This week the media, mainly CNBC and Bloonberg, are saying that Roubini was actually saying that the economy is doing well. Classic propping up of the markets, because we were actually getting ready to test the lows again. I am telling you that as long as the guy on main street is out of a job or gets cut back there will be no recovery. Plain and simple. You need the ordinary people to have money in their pockets to spend not just credit cards and it is simply not happening. The wall streeters are talking of a jobless recovery. How are you going to have a true economic recovery if people are out of a job? Your not. The wall street guys see a recovery on wall street so they think the rest of us are going to follow suit. If wall street is OK the rest of us should be OK. The rise and fall of stock shares does not necessarily mean the guy on main street is going to have a job or not. In fact, when a company lays off people their stocks usually rally because the company is seen as cutting expenses. Well, it is just the opposite for the worker when he is laid off. No rally for him or her. All the buzz now is how china is going to save us all by their supposed sudden growth and how they are back on track. I'm not going to hold my breath on that one. Congress and their gold dust twin "the multi-nationals" only have to go to mainstreet anywhere USA to see that ,economically, things are just not that good. No recovery here. Im waiting but can't wait much longer.
Characters Remaining:
Commenting by HaloScan
