I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
First?
yes billy frist
In which NTodd nees to close his tags.
Wow.
Shocker.
Jeff "Skunk" Baxter will be so upset.
Criminals!
Felons!
The cranky little motherfucker's got the blues...
Russian business associates, even?
Love it. Were it a screenplay, it'd be rejected as implausible, in favor of, say, 'The Incredible Hulk III'...
short version?
Krazy Kurt took time out of his search for terrorists in supermarkets for this?
from below:
That worked. Looks absolutely fun in summer, in winter less so...
Cross country skiing, ice fishing, hockey, sledding, snowshoe baseball, freezing, it was all fun.
Ralphie | 07.26.08 - 10:13 am |
I didn't realize you were so far north. My friend would love all the winter and summer activities.
Russian business associates,
???
Huggy's got the cheese aisle covered.
One world? Obama's on a different planet
The senator's Berlin speech was radical and naive.
By John R. Bolton
July 26, 2008
SEN. BARACK OBAMA said in an interview the day after his Berlin speech that it "allowed me to send a message to the American people that the judgments I have made and the judgments I will make are ones that are going to result in them being safer."
If that is what the senator thought he was doing, he still has a lot to learn about both foreign policy and the views of the American people. Although well received in the Tiergarten, the Obama speech actually reveals an even more naive view of the world than we had previously been treated to in the United States. In addition, although most of the speech was substantively as content-free as his other campaign pronouncements, when substance did slip in, it was truly radical, from an American perspective.
These troubling comments were not widely reported in the generally adulatory media coverage given the speech, but they nonetheless deserve intense scrutiny. It remains to be seen whether these glimpses into Obama's thinking will have any impact on the presidential campaign, but clearly they were not casual remarks. This speech, intended to generate the enormous publicity it in fact received, reflects his campaign's carefully calibrated political thinking. Accordingly, there should be no evading the implications of his statements. Consider just the following two examples. ...
$323 from EWR to PDX.
Cheap?
Who knew KKKurt had any friends?
Krazy Kurt took time out of his search for terrorists in supermarkets for this?
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants
Sounds to me like he was looking for them purposefully so he could do business with them.
EWR?
Can't help but notice the ad on the Eschaton home page, in which McCain's biographer is alleged to have made the case that 'it's easy to imagine him among the ranks of Jefferson, Lincoln, Roosevelt and Reagan' per Monica Crowley.
Now that's comedy gold. But there really seem to be folk out there who can imagine such a group as coherent representatives of presidential greatness. Fair boggles the mind.
John Bolton?
heh.
What a clown.
OTOH those Russkies can be motherfuckers.
I hope Krazy Kurt doesn't show up dead somewhere before he gets thrown into the pokie.
"Judge tosses Savage's suit against Islamic group
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- A federal judge has dismissed a lawsuit filed by conservative radio talk show host Michael Savage against an Islamic civil rights group over its use of a portion of his show in which he called the Quran a "book of hate.""
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/
sto...EMPLATE=DEFAULT
EWR = Newark.
Pretty Cheap.
Can't help but notice the ad on the Eschaton home page, in which McCain's biographer is alleged to have made the case that 'it's easy to imagine him among the ranks of Jefferson, Lincoln, Roosevelt and Reagan' per Monica Crowley.
Sure it's easy - he's their contemporary.
and the views of the American people
You know nothing of the American people, Bolton. How many Americans have a yellowish, walrus-type mustache?
CoT: well-played...
I hope AutismSpeaks.org goes after Savage.
One world? Obama's on a different planet
The senator's Berlin speech was radical and naive.
By John R. Bolton
people like this are those whose philosophical outlook make america shit
HBK: it'll cost that much to drive to PDX from SF Bay.
In which NTodd nees to close his tags.
NTodd, Cranky Motherfucker | Homepage | 07.26.08 - 10:21 am
'nees'?
NTodd needs his coffee.
"Obama Western Wall prayer note is filched
JERUSALEM -- Barack Obama's visit to the Western Wall was a public event. The handwritten prayer the presidential candidate left there was meant to be private.
But as soon as he doffed the requisite skullcap and left, a snoop pulled a folded piece of paper from a crevice in the ancient wall and offered it to the mass-circulation daily Maariv. The Hebrew-language newspaper’s decision to publish it Friday, under the headline "Obama's note," provoked a storm of criticism in Israel over an intrusion into his relationship with God.[...]
"Lord -- Protect my family and me," the unsigned note said. "Forgive me my sins, and help me guard against pride and despair. Give me the wisdom to do what is right and just. And make me an instrument of your will."
http://www.latimes.com/news/nati...story?
track=rss
$323 from EWR to PDX.
Cheap?
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants | Homepage | 07.26.08 - 10:25 am |
Yes.
to Dancer, from the thread below
Yes - you are right! Contempt of congress.
I was very surprised to hear that.
Obuse of power obstruction of justice or something like that.
A quick way to impeachment.
Oh I just remembered - I don't give a shit what a dangerously ignorant fool like John Bolton has to say.
HICA!
.
I didn't realize you were so far north.
That's where I grew up. I live in Milwaukee now.
John Bolton disagreeing with Obama is prima facie evidence that the vast majority of the world's people, and the American people, would welcome an Obama foreign policy. Were I in Obama's campaign, I'd have paid good money to obtain Bolton's ringing denunciation...
Do not destroy evidence. It never ends well.
Can't help but notice the ad on the Eschaton home page, in which McCain's biographer is alleged to have made the case that 'it's easy to imagine him among the ranks of Jefferson, Lincoln, Roosevelt and Reagan' per Monica Crowley.
Rewriting history for the victor has always been fair game. I suspect that most of the Reagan letters to his wife and other writings were written by the Peggy Noon dolphins to put a little more glitter on his corpse.
'nees'?
NTodd needs his coffee.
NTod nee cofe? Unposibul.
Looks like they Forgot to Identify Weldon as a Republican.
.
.
A quick way to impeachment.
We'll only get Pelosi to push for impeachment if we're very, very nice to her.
Russian business associates,
???
Culture of TrÜth | Homepage | 07.26.08 - 10:24 am |
Didn't his daughter also have Serbian business associates?
"Lord -- Protect my family and me," the unsigned note said. "Forgive me my sins, and help me guard against pride and despair. Give me the wisdom to do what is right and just. And make me an instrument of your will."
That's a pretty profound prayer. I like it.
Bolton:
The wall fell because of a decades-long, existential struggle against one of the greatest totalitarian ideologies mankind has ever faced.
Really don't understand this obsession with "existential" as a modifier of "struggle." Why do they think that makes their analysis sound more serious and weighty?
If Being Nice to Nancy requires listening to the gasbag speak, I can't do it.
Now entering into the penalty phase of the Shrub administration....
We'll only get Pelosi to push for impeachment if we're very, very nice to her.
And, civil. Because that's worked so well.
I don't give a shit what a dangerously ignorant fool like John Bolton has to say.
he has a foreign policy job and gets to write op-eds in the la times; it matters little what we all think. it matters LOTS that such fools are allowed freedom to roam and not locked up with strait-jackets
No prayer for the U.S. flag???
he's doomed.
Morning all.
Sorry for the pathetic blogwhore, but there's a fun Listomania over at the homepage.
And at Box Office, I wax poetic over the profound subversiveness of "Harold and Kumar Escape From Guantanamo Bay" and list the all time clueless chums/comedy duos movies.
http://boxoffice.com/blogs/steve...nia-spec-
10.php
As always, if you could see your way to going over there and leaving a comment, I promise to go to Milford Ohio, and ring Lubyanka's doorbell and run.
"I'm more relaxed in a surfer shirt than a bikini." [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
Save the Males, for heaven's sake. This Washington Post piece on three 16-year-old girls shopping for bikinis in Tyson's Corner is begging for a dad to be on the scene. Mom's no help — one of them provides financial assistance because a teenage girl just has to have a bikini, you know. "Bikinis are more popular because they're sexier. They draw a guy's attention." Where's dad to just say no?
Dad has to check out his daughter before he slips her a purity ring.
"Lord -- Protect my family and me," the unsigned note said. "Forgive me my sins, and help me guard against pride and despair. Give me the wisdom to do what is right and just. And make me an instrument of your will."
That's a pretty profound prayer. I like it.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | 07.26.08 - 10:33 am | #
Apparently he says it on a regular basis.
But even Bolton was fired.
I don't think serious people in DC are paying attention to the brayings of that loon.
The wall fell because of a decades-long, existential struggle against one of the greatest totalitarian ideologies mankind has ever faced.
Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. The wall fell because Reagan pushed it with his mighty pompadour.
from Autismspeaks.org
"Statement by Autism Speaks Regarding Radio Host Michael Savage's Remarks About Autism
One important goal of increasing awareness about autism is to foster a greater level of acceptance and understanding of the very real and significant challenges it poses to individuals with the disorder and their families. The good news is that we see more and more expressions of this compassion every day and everywhere, from classrooms and playgrounds to ballparks and supermarkets. Unfortunately, there are those who are apparently incapable of feeling compassion. They deserve our pity, not our scorn."
RMJ: one, yet again, might ask Bolton to actually define what he means by 'existential'. The evidence that the Soviet Union, even at its Stalinist worst, actually intended to conquer Western Europe and the United States, threatening its existence, is a bit thinner than is often acknowledged...
I didn't realize you were so far north.
That's where I grew up. I live in Milwaukee now.
Ralphie | 07.26.08 - 10:31 am | #
We didn't go that far north when camping. We camped near Campbellsport and then usually went no farther than Door County on day trips.
Really don't understand this obsession with "existential" as a modifier of "struggle." Why do they think that makes their analysis sound more serious and weighty?
Yes.
And of course, then they can apply it, after "defining" the word how they want with the "historical" example, to our current "crisis" with Islamoscarybrownmenboogaboogafascism.
Judge tosses Savage's suit against Islamic group
pigboy
Savage is having a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad month.
Good.
Bolton has been reading Sartre?
Savage is having a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad month.
heh.
John Bolton?
heh.
What a clown.
billy b | Homepage | 07.26.08 - 10:27 am
One unemployment line seat down from Crazy Curt.
Hill has done more to talk sense in to North Korea than Bolton did in all his years.
Being told that you're naive on foreign policy by Bolton is a bit like being told you don't know how to fly a fighter jet by GDumbya.
Gosh--here's hoping KKKarl gets arrested and sells out Shrub. No honor among goopers
And, civil. Because that's worked so well.
We should always respect Pelosi. I mean, it's cool to say "fuck her" online, but when we have 2000 people with her in person, we should give her standing ovations. It's all about respect.
Savage is having a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad month.
Karma
Hecate: it's amazing how often doctors think they might help themselves in a potential liability suit by altering medical records after the fact...
Really don't understand this obsession with "existential" as a modifier of "struggle." Why do they think that makes their analysis sound more serious and weighty?
heh.
These people love to overstate the effects of their contributions, don't they?
Savage is having a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad month.
Good.
Tread | 07.26.08 - 10:36 am | #
The guy is pure hate. It would be great to see him pushed out by the will of the listeners
A. When is Weldon going to be indicted?
B. Thanks for not mentioning you know what for a couple of days. Flying should be no problem tomorrow.
C. Was that "Short People" video a crack on my height, Duncan?
Didn't his daughter also have Serbian business associates?
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
Yes. Weldon went out of his way to do business with a bunch of people who had ties to organized crime or otherwise despicable people.
That's a pretty profound prayer. I like it.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
It's pretty much the basic Protestant prayer to the Lord. We are taught that importuning G_d for specific stuff is the wrong way - and that the request for guidance and faith and protection from evil are the right way.
Oh, the nerve of those Autism people not being hatey!
Heaven preserve me from these women hating Repigs:
http://www.inthesetimes.com/arti.../3799/mcsexist/
And check out the one comment from some asshole named "Junie" - McCain can't be a sexist because he married Cindy, who is a "strong, independent woman".
What color is the sky in Rightard World?
The evidence that the Soviet Union, even at its Stalinist worst, actually intended to conquer Western Europe and the United States, threatening its existence, is a bit thinner than is often acknowledged...
ProfWombat | 07.26.08 - 10:35 am | #
Yes. It was always the kind of wingnut fantasy that found its purest craziest expression in the likes of John Millius' "Red Dawn."
Some pertinent dialogue, from "Casablanca."
Major Strasser: Are you one of those people who cannot imagine the Germans in their beloved Paris?
Rick: It's not particularly my beloved Paris.
Major Strasser: How about New York?
Rick: Well there are certain sections of New York, Major, that I wouldn't advise you to try to invade.
Mom Hecate,
If you could do something to ensure safe travels for the family, I would greatly appreciate it.
I mean, it's cool to say "fuck her" online, but when we have 2000 people with her in person, we should give her standing ovations. It's all about respect.
It's all about becoming Villagers. It's all about getting to where you think you're going to get a seat at the table and not wanting to damage that. And, then one day, you wake up and you are as useless as Nancy. I'm sure she started out wanting to do do good things, once upon a time. And then, she got a seat at the table and keeping that seat gets to be more important than the reason you wanted it in the first place. Happens every generation and kos and ko. slipped over that edge a while back. My 2 cents
The evidence that the Soviet Union, even at its Stalinist worst, actually intended to conquer Western Europe and the United States, threatening its existence, is a bit thinner than is often acknowledged...
ProfWombat
The idiots on the right always have to have something to pee their pants in fear over, don't they?
Let's note that his autism screech is only one of countless fact-challenged, surpassingly ugly, unconscionable things he's said, and that such as Limbaugh, Coulter, O'Reilly and Hannity do this every day.
It's worth recalling that William F. Buckley, by being able to use words and frame sentences, legitimized this crap, which, at root, is nothing more nor less than dismissive of others' humanity.
Rick: Well there are certain sections of New York, Major, that I wouldn't advise you to try to invade.
Are my eyes really brown?
Monica,
Off to light incense right now.
"It's all about respect."
in some way i agree. you shouldn't invite someone to your event to shit on them.
on the other hand, if you are honored enuf to be invited, you shouldn't disrespect your hosts/audience be spewing bullshit.
i felt at the least boos/hisses would have been appropriate when the bullshit started getting deep...
Cindy, who is a "strong, independent woman".
I dunno. She looks downcast most of the time.
don't bother him with the facts
Thank you.
Speaking of Serbia, I just got back from there the day before this happened.
TerryC: well, to be fair to them, they've made a bit of political capital, and a dollar or two, out of those urine-soaked undergarments...
It's all about becoming Villagers. It's all about getting to where you think you're going to get a seat at the table and not wanting to damage that. And, then one day, you wake up and you are as useless as Nancy. I'm sure she started out wanting to do do good things, once upon a time. And then, she got a seat at the table and keeping that seat gets to be more important than the reason you wanted it in the first place. Happens every generation and kos and ko. slipped over that edge a while back. My 2 cents
Babe, that's worth at least 2 dollars. I will be stealing that for the All Request Paxcast tonight...
Cindy, who is a "strong, independent woman".
I dunno. She looks downcast most of the time.
Lime Rickey
She puts up with a man who calls her a "trollop" and a "cunt" in public?
Doesn't sound strong or independent to me.
Happens every generation and kos and ko. slipped over that edge a while back.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
It happened right around the time that he pushed his first book and realized he could make money off this thing.
The guy is pure hate. It would be great to see him pushed out by the will of the listeners
his mouthbreathing listeners? please.
it takes the left to be taken seriously first and then a respected leftie to deride a total buffoon like that on the right before they'd get fired/lose popularism.
right now the US is where the left/Liberal is a BAD word, i never forget that as i am waiting for my italian citizenship
Well, she's "independently" wealthy.
in some way i agree. you shouldn't invite someone to your event to shit on them.
Is it shitting on them to hold them accountable? To remind them that the reason they are in power is partly because of you and the mandate you gave them? To give them a bad employee review because they've failed to meet the objectives we've set for them?
steve: reminding me of, again, 'All Through The Night':
Nazi: who has been interfering with our plans?
I'll tell you who--the people, those little people you'd crush under your iron heels...
Great, underplayed movie...
Well, she's "independently" wealthy.
plantsman
Cindy made her money the old fashioned way....
She INHERITED it!
Bolton has been reading Sartre?
leibniz leibkins
Satire?
Bolton's been reading satire?
"I'm more relaxed in a surfer shirt than a bikini." [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
I don't even want to THINK about K-Lo in a bikini.
The video of this autistic girl is amazing and moving.
video
One could argue that kos' fatal error was in embracing victory rather than principle as a sine qua non. The two should not, of course, be in opposition, but should inform each other. The left has too often, and for far too long, trapped itself in one or the other...
"Is it shitting on them to hold them accountable?"
it's how it's expressed. if questioners gave her an earful, i think that's cool. screaming/interrupting wouldn't accomplish much, imo. throwing feces might be over the top. see?
Hecate is one wise witch.
So how do we keep journo's from slipping over the line?
Given that so many of them do, it must be awfully seductive. It's alwys easy to do evil. And we all like easy...
"I don't even want to THINK about K-Lo in a bikini."
...jeebus, and right before lunch.
Terry, it's not the inherited money that's a problem - it's how it was made and by whom doing what that is the problem. It's still a problem, a generation old, it's not been laundered very well and the obligations it brings to McCain are a lot scarier than merely being kept.
I am sure that Temple Grandin will find a few choice words for Mr. Savage.
. Were I in Obama's campaign, I'd have paid good money to obtain Bolton's ringing denunciation...
ProfWombat
Forsooth. Didn't his appointment make even George Voinovich cry? He tops even Jeanne Kirkpatrick as the biggest asshole we ever sent to the UN. And that's saying something -- "We believe those nuns were working for the Frente..."
Terry, it's not the inherited money that's a problem - it's how it was made and by whom doing what that is the problem. It's still a problem, a generation old, it's not been laundered very well and the obligations it brings to McCain are a lot scarier than merely being kept.
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian
True, true, true, and true.
And Budweiser. Yech!
altering medical records after the fact
And yet, it's always the cover-up that gets you in the end.
blerb: and Bolton was a recess appointment; even our pusillanimous Congress wouldn't confirm him...
Terry, it's not the inherited money that's a problem - it's how it was made and by whom doing what that is the problem. It's still a problem, a generation old, it's not been laundered very well and the obligations it brings to McCain are a lot scarier than merely being kept.
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian
I don't care where she got her money.
It just blows my mind that she would allow some man that she could afford to buy and sell to call her demeaning names.
Chripes, as bad as my ex was, he never dared to call me shit like McCain called Cindy.
He knew he would have gotten punched right in the mouth.
Obama Gets a Bounce [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
Rasmussen has 46 Obama - 40 McCain.
Gallup 47-41
It ain't over yet, dingbat. Next week will tell the tale.
Oh, the nerve of those Autism people not being hatey!
plantsman | Homepage | 07.26.08 - 10:39 am | #
That organization is in the business of selling bumper stickers and not much else. If you want hatey, scroll down to the Savage posts.
in some way i agree. you shouldn't invite someone to your event to shit on them.
That's also a way of avoiding legitimate confrontation. When or where is the proper venue? It seems that face-to-face is a perfect time.
Babe, that's worth at least 2 dollars. I will be stealing that for the All Request Paxcast tonight...
My honor.
One world? Obama's on a different planet
The senator's Berlin speech was radical and naive.
By John R. Bolton
That's also a way of avoiding legitimate confrontation. When or where is the proper venue? It seems that face-to-face is a perfect time.
GeorgeM
Are we talking about Pelosi? She needed to be told, in an unmistakeable way, that her collaboration with the Bush admin was unacceptable.
The question is, what defines an unmistakeable way?
And frankly, I think she already got the message. But she didn't care. At that point, cream pies, and yes, maybe shit in the face is what she deserved.
What was Novak doing out in daylight?
How does Bolton write with Pam Oshry on his mustache?
These questions trouble me.
And frankly, I think she already got the message. But she didn't care. At that point, cream pies, and yes, maybe shit in the face is what she deserved.
Adam Hominem
I knew there was a problem when she had her little sit down with Boy Blunder. He must have some good juice on her.
The wall fell because of a decades-long, existential struggle against one of the greatest totalitarian ideologies mankind has ever faced.
Where do all these morons get this collective wank fantasy that we, Ronald Reagan, or anybody did one damn thing to bring about the fall of the Soviet Empire? The Soviet empire died more or less peacfully, of its own inherent pathologies, at the ripe old age of 73 years. Where is the existential struggle?
I just have had this image all week of McCain yelling at his advisors: Challenge him to go overseas, you said. Call him a wimp if he wouldn't go to Iraq, you said. Say he doesn't have contacts with world leaders, you said. It'll kill him, you said. What happened?
The Soviet empire died more or less peacfully, of its own inherent pathologies, at the ripe old age of 73 years. Where is the existential struggle?
blerb
But, but but, we prayed!
Obama has grace; everyone can see that now.
Hecate: well, there's what you did that makes you liable, and there's proving it.
It's a bother to me, sometimes, that these two distinct things are so intertwined, thought I don't see how to untangle them. The self-serving alteration of a medical record, for instance, is, on its face, an unambiguously dishonest and morally culpable act. The patient care issue, often, is far more ambiguous. But the presence of the former is death, by contagion, on the defense of the latter.
I'm quite certain Pelosi would have made time for any of the kos front-pager to meet with her in D.C. to express their unhappiness.
uh-huh
Adam Hominem
Agreed, except maybe the feces flinging. Sometimes you just can't get through and they need to be unseated.
Challenge him to go overseas, you said. Call him a wimp if he wouldn't go to Iraq, you said. Say he doesn't have contacts with world leaders, you said. It'll kill him, you said. What happened?
"Go to a grocery store, you siaid. Stand in the dairy aisle, you said."
"No, no John, it worked well, our polls say people are responding really well."
"Really, ok."
BTW, that "existential" struggle cost us on the order of 10 trillion dollars. Not all of it was wasted; it employed Americans. But studies have been done that suggest that a dollar goes up to 15 times further when it is spent on a schoolteacher, rather than on "defense".
Are we talking about Pelosi?
What a disappointment.
Rick: Well there are certain sections of New York, Major, that I wouldn't advise you to try to invade.
steve hüssein® simels
Especially not dressed like THAT.
Code Pink camps outside Nancy P's house on Presideo Terrace in SF. In her face a lot.
I blame the media for the Democrats not doing more. There was all that bluster about not wasting time on impeachment and instead working to get things done. But the media (sic) never attacked the goopers for the their role in making sure nothing happened. It's only now that they are in danger of a complete wipeout that they are turning on Shrub. Too late for a pass!
Nancy Pelosi wasn't an invited guest. Nancy Pelosi is an employee. She hasn't been doing her job. Nicely written performance reviews (letters, e-mails, etc.) have been repeatedly ignored. She works for us, she's shirking her job, and she needs to be told in whatever manner possible that we don't like it. Being civil to Nancy Pelosi is so far less important than impeaching war criminals, stopping the money drain into Iraq, and turning the country around that they're not even on the same list.
Where is the existential struggle?
Don't you remember?
The one where Nixon began nuke reduction talks, had a policy of detente with the Soviets, and recognized Red China.
heh.
Obama has grace; everyone can see that now.
plantsman |
It sounds corny, but the man looks and sounds presidential.
I mean, compare to the usurper currently in the White House.
And to the whining, condescending, smug McStain who talks to everyone like they're idiots.
I closed that tag, I swear.
It's a bother to me, sometimes, that these two distinct things are so intertwined, thought I don't see how to untangle them. The self-serving alteration of a medical record, for instance, is, on its face, an unambiguously dishonest and morally culpable act. The patient care issue, often, is far more ambiguous. But the presence of the former is death, by contagion, on the defense of the latter.
ProfWombat
The whole thing, to my mind, ties in nicely with the journo's going over to the dark side thing.
It's tempting to do the wrong thing. Doctors and Journo's are not immune.
So what do we do? (And I don't think "ethics" classes in med school are worth very much).
I suppose its not really something they buy themselves anyway, except for the powerful stupid ones. I guess I should ask where do they get the idea that anybody still buys it? Once the culturally ingrained fear of their boogeymen is gone, they can't stampede people with them anymore. They don't seem to get that.
The question is, what defines an unmistakeable way?
Adam Hominem
A serious primary challenge to remove Pelosi, Reid, and Hoyer.
It's only practical to tackle the leaders, but it will be like the old "al Fatah number one", a career-ending move.
Not just money but feet on the ground registering new voters and talking to older ones.
Hannity: "Obama would rather play basketball than visit our troops"
Speaking of Serbia, I just got back from there the day before this happened.
Tread | 07.26.08 - 10:42 am |
He's been living there for how long? And how long did they know he was there?
And newspapers like the LAT are still printing shit from Serbian Unity wackos about how the poor Serbs have suffered and surely Radovan was misunderstood.
It's all about becoming Villagers. It's all about getting to where you think you're going to get a seat at the table and not wanting to damage that. And, then one day, you wake up and you are as useless as Nancy.
DING DING DING DING DING!
Anything from the top two shelves, little lady...
Hannity: "Obama would rather play basketball than visit our troops"
Gomez
I'd like to see Hannity try to play basketball.
Hecate: well, there's what you did that makes you liable, and there's proving it.
This is why those crazy scientists required those bound journals of notes and stuff. Even in high school chemistry, I had an intractable record of my lab work. If I had torn out a page I would have gotten an F.
And newspapers like the LAT are still printing shit from Serbian Unity wackos about how the poor Serbs have suffered and surely Radovan was misunderstood.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
I got flamed her a year ago from a pro-Serb commenter.
Where do all these morons get this collective wank fantasy that we, Ronald Reagan, or anybody did one damn thing to bring about the fall of the Soviet Empire? The Soviet empire died more or less peacfully, of its own inherent pathologies, at the ripe old age of 73 years. Where is the existential struggle?
blerb | 07.26.08 - 10:55 am | #
Amen.
And if I ever again hear a wingnut claim that Reagan -- or anybody -- won the Cold War, I swear to god I'm gonna take a hostage.
The Cold War was a preventiable, unnecessary disaster that wasted precious resources that could have been used for good, forever poisoned American politics and put the world in nuclear jeopardy of complete destruction (still).
Winning the Cold War? It wasn't even a Pyrrhic victory -- we're still fucked as a result.
And guess who caused it? The same wingnut morons who are running the game now....
Adam: and, because those ten million dollars were spent on the military, real people died.
In lean economic times, the obvious source of funds not otherwise available is the diversion of military funding to civilian uses, which, in addition to being social goods, are far more productive economically. Won't happen, alas, to nearly the extent it should. Advocates of 'shock therapy' of, say, formerly Communist countries, upon whom a cold dunking in the free market is so often urged as a necessary purgative, don't seem even capable of acknowledging the possibility of doing so...
Hannity: "Obama would rather play basketball than visit our troops"
Hannity knows that's not true, but Hannity also knows that FOX News viewers are the dumbest people in the country.
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here.
.The one where Nixon began nuke reduction talks, had a policy of detente with the Soviets, and recognized Red China.
Funny thing is, the way things are looking right now our empire will probably only outlive theirs by maybe 20-25 years.
And newspapers like the LAT are still printing shit from Serbian Unity wackos about how the poor Serbs have suffered and surely Radovan was misunderstood.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
I've said it before; I'll say it again. There oughta be a statue of that old commie Tito on every street corner in the old Yugoslavia.
For forty years he kept them from killing each other. When Tito was alive, tourists were like fleas on the Dalmatian Coast.
I just have had this image all week of McCain yelling at his advisors: Challenge him to go overseas, you said. Call him a wimp if he wouldn't go to Iraq, you said. Say he doesn't have contacts with world leaders, you said. It'll kill him, you said. What happened?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | 07.26.08 - 10:55 am |
What gets me is the press, which didn't have a problem showing McCain's whining about Obama's 'lack' of recent overseas trips, is now forgetting that McCain dared him to do it.
steve: yes, goddamnit. We've survived so far into the atomic age because we've been goddamned lucky. And people forget that, or actively deny it.
Hannity knows that's not true, but Hannity also knows that FOX News viewers are the dumbest people in the country.
.
Grand Moff Texan
You knew they were going to find something.
Dick Morris: "Obama now has two different explanations for not visiting our troops"
don't seem even capable of acknowledging the possibility of doing so...
ProfWombat
Of course not! They are commies and need shock therapy! While we are good, and need defense, above all things!
You guys are pretty inspiring this morning -- but low blood sugar must be remedied.
Hannity is using a forged letter, btw.
One which the forger has already apologized for.
.
Dick Morris: "Obama now has two different explanations for not visiting our troops"
Gomez
And I have a hundred reasons why Dick Morris should just shut the fuck up and go away.
In lean economic times, the obvious source of funds not otherwise available is the diversion of military funding to civilian uses, which, in addition to being social goods, are far more productive economically.
I remember reading about WWI, and how the U.S. effort was hobbled by our antiquated military hardware. Guess we've seen to that problem...
Dick Morris: "Obama now has two different explanations for not visiting our troops"
Gomez
Why doesn't he just go fondle a strapless high heel, and shut up while he's at it?
Dick Morris: "Obama now has two different explanations for not visiting our troops"
No, one version came from Gration, the other one came from someone else.
And the McCain campaign is contradicting itself on a similar incident in April, but FOX News isn't covering that.
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The source was last night's Hannity and Colmes which I could only stand two minutes of.
Guess we've seen to that problem...
GeorgeM
The Shah of Iran had some really nice, up to date, military hardware--thanks to us.
I love that example.
The McCain campaign will soon be reduced to throwing themselves on the floor, flailing their limbs and whining "It's not fair...it's not fair...it's not fair!"
All they do is WHINE while McCain continues to lose ground to Obama.
And newspapers like the LAT are still printing shit from Serbian Unity wackos about how the poor Serbs have suffered and surely Radovan was misunderstood.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
I've said it before; I'll say it again. There oughta be a statue of that old commie Tito on every street corner in the old Yugoslavia.
For forty years he kept them from killing each other. When Tito was alive, tourists were like fleas on the Dalmatian Coast.
Adam Hominem | 07.26.08 - 11:03 am |
Well, there is a strong current of Yugostalgia amongs many former ex-Yugo's.
But I'll say it again. I don't think think Tito's 'strong' hand prevented them from killing each other (the hatred is not old, but very recent).
By not addressing the nationalism problem, he only made it worse. And with no civil society in place, once he was gone, people who wanted power by any means possible could take control. And eventually, they did.
You may be right, Buckeye.
Adam: on the contrary, ethics classes in med school are worth a great deal. They're one of the few places where people stop memorizing biochemical pathways for a few moments to think, however imperfectly, about larger issues.
If you haven't been in med school, you have no idea of how relentless the burden of acquiring information is. Much of that is rote memorization, a process which consumes and dehumanizes. At the end of your second year, you take a sixteen hour multiple choice test on everything you've learned, which is required for licensure in most states.
Classes in such things as ethics, literature, philosophy and like that are among the few respites, and among the few places in which the students and faculty talk to each other about such things.
Dick Morris: "Obama now has two different explanations for not visiting our troops"
Gomez
Why should we be of one mind with a man that gets off on sucking the toes of his lovers?
The source was last night's Hannity and Colmes which I could only stand two minutes of.
Gomez
I'd like to change places with Alan Colmes for ten minutes.
That's all it would take me to slap the fucking shit out of Hannity.
here.
Gomez | 07.26.08 - 11:02 am | #
there.
i know i'm being redundant, but the 14% of the population that is cell phone user only and cannot be reached by the pollsters are not being considered. ergo, et al, ie., every fucking poll is whacked.
watching msm try to project a horserace is pure horseshit.
i have 3 kids in their 20's. to a person, and i'm talking about a bunch of 'em, everyone of their friends are registered, dig on obama, and are motivated to vote. it's a joy to talk to them about politics. they're dialed in and watching...
if that group goes merely 60 - 40 for obama, it's a +3% swing for him. yet each night, the pundits all project that they think the race is actually closer than the polls suggest.
aaarrrggghhhh.
Classes in such things as ethics, literature, philosophy and like that are among the few respites, and among the few places in which the students and faculty talk to each other about such things.
ProfWombat
Point taken.
You so SPUNKY, Terry C!
his lovers?
his lovers? his sex workers
I'd like to change places with Alan Colmes for ten minutes.
That's all it would take me to slap the fucking shit out of Hannity.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08
I'll pay good money to see that!
i have 3 kids in their 20's. to a person, and i'm talking about a bunch of 'em, everyone of their friends are registered, dig on obama, and are motivated to vote. it's a joy to talk to them about politics. they're dialed in and watching...
if that group goes merely 60 - 40 for obama, it's a +3% swing for him. yet each night, the pundits all project that they think the race is actually closer than the polls suggest.
aaarrrggghhhh.
fokowi
Fuck me I hope you're right.
But I remember when the 18 yr old vote was going to elect McGovern, too.
know i'm being redundant, but the 14% of the population that is cell phone user only and cannot be reached by the pollsters are not being considered. ergo, et al, ie., every fucking poll is whacked
The brain cancer they apparently are going to get will correct that problem.
thanks Adam
I'll pay good money to see that!
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
I think we should take up a collection! Send Terry to the Hannity show!
Well, it had to happen: a "gourmet" donut shoppe has opened.
I just pointed out the forgery to "American Thinker" blog, which was making the same mistake.
I wonder if my post will survive "moderation."
Cowards.
.
Wait for the gourmet tastee freeze
Well, it had to happen: a "gourmet" donut shoppe has opened.
dave™©
One can never have too many donut shops.
Or shoppes.
I'd like to change places with Alan Colmes for ten minutes.
That's all it would take me to slap the fucking shit out of Hannity.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08
I'll pay good money to see that!
leibniz leibkins ♘☮
I'd probably have to take a number.
Adam: on the contrary, ethics classes in med school are worth a great deal. They're one of the few places where people stop memorizing biochemical pathways for a few moments to think, however imperfectly, about larger issues.
Like church on Sunday or catechism class on Saturday reflex answers to the questions but rarely embraced outside the classroom.
leibniz: it's occurred to me to wonder if, a hundred years from now, cellular antenna towers' demolition will be opposed by preservationists...
yet each night, the pundits all project that they think the race is actually closer than the polls suggest.
aaarrrggghhhh.
fokowi
They figure that the glamour appeal of the Obama candidacy will get tarnished by the firehose of shit they have pointed at him, and that they will be able to stampede people back into the fold with militant homosexuals and scary Muslims. I think this time they're wrong on both counts.
And newspapers like the LAT are still printing shit from Serbian Unity wackos about how the poor Serbs have suffered and surely Radovan was misunderstood.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
I got flamed her a year ago from a pro-Serb commenter.
Gomez | 07.26.08 - 11:02 am |
I think I know the one, three initials?
There is/was some socialist wacko on Kos who would get all Pro-Serb and people would try and smack him down, he just refused to deal with facts.
One can never have too many donut shops.
Or shoppes.
Adam Hominem | 07.26.08 - 11:13 am
Always good to have options when some of them have to be passed over for being weak-kneed wingnut appeasers like Dunkin' Donuts.
But I remember when the 18 yr old vote was going to elect McGovern, too.
And Kerry.
I'd like to change places with Alan Colmes for ten minutes.
That's all it would take me to slap the fucking shit out of Hannity.
As has been noted before, Colmes on his own is a pretty tough "liberal" host and interviewer.
All that evaporates when he's on the air with Hannity.
Truly the definition of "bought and paid for whore"...
Hey kids - right now, it's 1977 on the 10@10 Saturday Morning Marathon!
it's occurred to me to wonder if, a hundred years from now, cellular antenna towers' demolition will be opposed by preservationists.
The Eiffel Tower was regarded as an abomination.
just ask me how cute my new niece is. her hands are so adorable. like a tiny porcelian doll, she is. /beams/
Pretty much all the real Commies are pro-Serb.
Well, it had to happen: a "gourmet" donut shoppe has opened.
There's one of those below Dupont Circle. Son tells me it's amazing; I figure if I just pretend it doesn't exist, I'm better off.
cellular antenna towers' demolition will be opposed by preservationists...
ProfWombat
Or historians at the landfill will be preserving artifacts from WalMart as antiques to put on display.
leibniz: it's occurred to me to wonder if, a hundred years from now, cellular antenna towers' demolition will be opposed by preservationists...
ProfWombat | 07.26.08 - 11:14 am
Perhaps a few of those fake tree antenna towers should be kept just for the kitsch value.
The brain cancer they apparently are going to get will correct that problem.
Gomez | 07.26.08 - 11:11 am | #
never factored that in. fuck.
gomez. my son bartends in omaha this summer and the other night jerome bettis stopped where he works. he was there doing some cystic fibrosis gig. son got pictures/autographs, and said he was a really 'cool guy.'
All that evaporates when he's on the air with Hannity.
Truly the definition of "bought and paid for whore"...
dave™©
Like a boxer, paid to take a fall in the first round.
It's a metaphor for our national debate, actually, the one that runs the gamut from A to B (ht Dorothy Parker).
chidyke,
Welcome to the new little liberal! She's got one leg up already -- a v cool aunt!
You may be right, Buckeye.
Adam Hominem | 07.26.08 - 11:09 am
After 14 years of reading about the ex-Yugoslavia, nationalism, genocide and other happy subjects, I don't think the violent breakup of Yugoslavia was inevetible. I don't think its continued existence was a given, but the violence was provoked from the top. And still it took several years after Slobo took power for war to happen.
Perhaps a few of those fake tree antenna towers should be kept just for the kitsch value.
Tom - 大肚腩
I'm saving my first edition POS iMac for the same reason.
I think brain damage causes excessive cell phone usage.
Like a boxer, paid to take a fall in the first round.
Paid to lose to a real stiff to make the stiff look good.
"The Harder They Fall" scenario.
Gimlet: I disagree. There aren't many glib, rote answers taught in such classes. They're often quite serious discussions, led by people committed to them.
In the rush to learn all you need to--again, mostly routine memorization rather than deep thought--and the 100 hour workweeks common to training in medicine and patient care, such things occasionally go by the wayside. The problem isn't with attempts to deal with ethics. The problem is the extent to which, say, memorizing the sugars a particular bacterium eats, or obtaining a reading on a CT scan in the emergency room at 3 AM takes precedence over a group discussion of, say, 'Mountains Beyond Mountains', and what to do about it.
The CW is that youngsters using cell phones exclusively don't vote in significant numbers.
steve: yes, goddamnit. We've survived so far into the atomic age because we've been goddamned lucky. And people forget that, or actively deny it.
ProfWombat | 07.26.08 - 11:04 am | #
Including some folks here, who shall remain nameless.
And still it took several years after Slobo took power for war to happen.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
How does it come about that neighbors kill neighbors? That's what keeps me up at night.
There are some truly bizarre cell towers along some New Jersey highways. They are meant to look like pine trees. But instead look like an Olsen twin disguised as Bullwinkle.
Pretty much all the real Commies are pro-Serb.
blerb | 07.26.08 - 11:16 am |
Commies/socialists. They somehow deluded themselves that Slobo was a true socialist and therefore should be supported at all costs.
I figure if I just pretend it doesn't exist, I'm better off.
SF has dozens of independent donut shops, some (obviously) better than others. I am unaware of any outlet of Dunkin', Krispy Kreme, or other "chain" stores within the city proper (there is a chain called "All Star", though).
The great thing is most of them actually still make the donuts on-site. One of the best is a little dive storefront called "Bob's" on Polk St. near Sacramento. They're open all night, and the best time to go by there is between 12 midnite and 4 am, when the donuts and fritters come straight out of the deep-fryer.
He was talking about weapons, not power.
There are some truly bizarre cell towers along some New Jersey highways. They are meant to look like pine trees. But instead look like an Olsen twin disguised as Bullwinkle.
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ | 07.26.08 - 11:20 am |
But would Lance Armstrong date it?
The CW is that youngsters using cell phones exclusively don't vote in significant numbers.
A. Morphous, jerked around
But there are exceptions. Cf Jesse Ventura.
Now, can that example be applied to Obama? I doubt it, but I'm 34 years away from 20.
I would, however, avoid the coffee at Bob's if possible...
But instead look like an Olsen twin disguised as Bullwinkle.
leibniz leibkins ♘☮
We should definitely save that one, for an art museum ca 2100.
such things occasionally go by the wayside. The problem isn't with attempts to deal with ethics.
And the nephrologist getting a handsome sum for dialyzing the living dead four times a week instead three because the BUN is arbitrarily higher than it should be got an "A" in the ethics class.
i thought we'd sussed out that polls that we read about here are not, in fact, overly skewed to the older population. iirc someone had some of the data broken down and it showed that young people were properly represented in the results most of the time.
anyway, i think most political polls are bullshit for other reasons and i try not to base my predictions on them. namely because i trust *nothing* coming from the SCLM. nothing.
Dialysis of the Living Dead. I like the sound of that.
Buckeye: just finished Tony Judt's 'Postwar', in which he talks of Yugoslavia's breakup and wars in terms of the uses to which people like Milosevic and Tudjman put the history and beliefs of the people.
The right word isn't 'enjoyed', actually, but i read 'Imagining Yugoslavia' and found it one of the best single sources I've seen...
But would Lance Armstrong date it?
Try stopping at the Lance Armstrong Testicle Rest Area on the NJ Turnpike
And the nephrologist getting a handsome sum for dialyzing the living dead four times a week instead three
Gimlet
More likely the other way around. Fuck the patient; how much does it cost?
And still it took several years after Slobo took power for war to happen.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
How does it come about that neighbors kill neighbors? That's what keeps me up at night.
Adam Hominem | 07.26.08 - 11:19 am
In some ways, it's very easy (Never mind what I just wrote about it taking several years in Yugoslavia, even with the very real memory of the horrors of WWII).
The author of Love Thy Neighbor, Peter Maass, wondered about that a lot, how stable was 'ground' beneath the feet of Americans in terms of nationalism.
I look at my neighbors and wonder how long it would take them to pick up arms and go after each other? (and my neighbors tend to be drunk anyway).
i try not to base my predictions on them. namely because i trust *nothing* coming from the SCLM. nothing.
chicago dyke, fresh au
Friend of mine, who is a little naive and inclined to believe whatever she reads/hears from the MSM, sends me a panicked e-mail this morning about Obama picking a Repig for a running mate.
Like it's a done deal. She read it on AOL "News".
I patiently told her to calm down and stop believing whatever AOL tells her.
I find it hard to fathom that Lance Armstrong is both a Republican and was in a serious relationship with Sheryl Crow.
gomez. my son bartends in omaha this summer and the other night jerome bettis stopped where he works. he was there doing some cystic fibrosis gig. son got pictures/autographs, and said he was a really 'cool guy.'
fokowi
Bettis has had asthma his whole life but still was able to play football.
Its probably why he helps out.
Jake Tapper:
Microphone Picks Up Private Conversation Between Obama and British Leader on Need for Vacations and 'Thinking' Time
Dumbya has the "vacation" part down pat, but fails the "thinking" time.
i don't know obama's game plan come fall on college campuses across the country, but i'm betting that he gets after it...
He was talking about weapons, not power.
blerb | 07.26.08 - 11:21 am
The only reason we ever built nuclear power plants is because we needed to find some way to make the production of nuclear weapons grade material economically viable.
Eisenhower pushed Atoms for Peace in the age of 30 cent a gallon gas because we actually needed nuke plants?
Get real....
And the nephrologist getting a handsome sum for dialyzing the living dead four times a week instead three
Amazing how we are able to have suffering animals put down (NOT that THAT is an EASY thing to do), but allow people to go on suffering because of outdated stupid religious beliefs and greedy doctors.
Gimlet: there are people on dialysis who shouldn't be. And there are those who are leading reasonable lives because of it. You paint too easily, with too broad a brush.
The real crime, in my opinion, is that the Feds pay for dialysis, which is hugely expensive and morbid, but not for aggressive, competent management of Type II diabetes, keeping the kidneys on line. And there are a legion of such examples, in which penny wisdom is ignored for pound foolishness.
.Friend of mine, who is a little naive and inclined to believe whatever she reads/hears from the MSM, sends me a panicked e-mail this morning about Obama picking a Repig for a running mate.
I really don't think he wants to die that much.
I imagine there will be teeth gnashing by sports fans over this. But you raise your hand, take the oath and live on my tax dollars, I expect you to fulfill your obligation like all the others who do without looking for early release.
I wasn't popular with this opinion when they tried to reduce David Robinson's requirement as well years back.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/07/25...etes/
index.html
Buckeye: just finished Tony Judt's 'Postwar', in which he talks of Yugoslavia's breakup and wars in terms of the uses to which people like Milosevic and Tudjman put the history and beliefs of the people.
During the March 1991 protest, one of the Serbian students pointed to Slobo that the only reason Tudjman came to power (without a majority of votes) was in reaction to Slobo and if Slobo stepped down, it would defuse the situation
The right word isn't 'enjoyed', actually, but i read 'Imagining Yugoslavia' and found it one of the best single sources I've seen...
ProfWombat | 07.26.08 - 11:24 am | #
this?
http://repositories.cdlib.org/uc.../research/92/5/
The young will not save us.
We've thought that before, and it never works. Being a poster to this blog, and one who is occasionally abused for being a boomer, I can tell you that for a fact, Jack.
We have to save ourselves.
I find it hard to fathom that Lance Armstrong is both a Republican and was in a serious relationship with Sheryl Crow.
blerb
That's why it didn't last.
i blame raygun, Terry. he began the destruction of quality public education in this country and the bushes have finished the job. critical thinking skillz are granted to so very few, while many are brainwashed into becoming unthinking consumer-sponges. it's sad.
TerryC: it's hard telling people that their mother should be allowed to die of renal failure when treatment is available, however imperfect. Most don't choose to do so. Doctors' greed exists, but isn't the problem.
This is a horrifically complicated issue, and one hard to do justice to in a couple of paragraphs of bloggy goodness.
one who is occasionally abused for being a boomer,
Adam Hominem
I am so sick and tired of that bullshit.
Hard to say Lance is a puke:
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/07...ong-veers-left/
i trust *nothing* coming from the SCLM. nothing.
chicago dyke, fresh aunt | Homepage | 07.26.08 - 11:23 am | #
To paraphrase Mary McCarthy, everything they publish is a lie, including the punctuation.
Eisenhower pushed Atoms for Peace in the age of 30 cent a gallon gas because we actually needed nuke plants?
Get real....
steve hüssein® simels
Dude, I'm not as old as you (so few are) but it was 29 cents. 28.9 cents, to be exact.
Get your facts right.
Gimlet: there are people on dialysis who shouldn't be. And there are those who are leading reasonable lives because of it. You paint too easily, with too broad a brush.
ProfWombat
My comment did not deal with who is on dialysis (although I had in mind the the multiple organ failure crowd in the ICU) but the ethics of the arbitrary frequency of dialysis influenced by the fee for service.
The only reason we ever built nuclear power plants is because we needed to find some way to make the production of nuclear weapons grade material economically viable.
Then why do we have so many reactors that don't produce plutonium, but rather run on nothing but LEU?
The funny thing is that I'm not really a huge advocate for building tons of new fission plants. I just don't see how nuclear power per se is a real threat to the future of human civilization. It's not like even Chernobyl destroyed the Soviet Union.
I find it hard to fathom that Lance Armstrong is both a Republican and was in a serious relationship with Sheryl Crow.
blerb | 07.26.08 - 11:25 am
And he's an athiest. I think he's a quasi-Republican because he's wealthy and doesn't pay attention. I suspect that during the time he and Cheryl were together he might have paid more attention. Of course, now he's dating Kate Hudson, who's also not a Republican.
ProfWombat:
I'm talking about peiople who are suffering horribly....there is no cure and treatment does no good.
Where the quality of life sucks.
I wouldn't want to be kept alive...that's not a life, that's an existence.
I'm not trying to speak for others.
while many are brainwashed into becoming unthinking consumer-sponges. it's sad.
chicago dyke, fresh aunt
I don't buy anything unless the store has a sign that reads: "Going Out of Business Sale."
steve: that, and an active denial of the atom as an unmitigated risk to the survival of the species and an instrument of terror. Nuclear plants were supposed to be a social good, producing electricity too cheap to meter, and would allow atomic energy to be associated with something other than hiroshima and Bikini.
Hell, I had a book as a kid, produced by Walt Disney, called 'Our Frien the Atom'...
If I got to screw sheryl crow and kate hudson with only one ball and a face like a rat, I'd be a really big believer.
Eisenhower pushed Atoms for Peace in the age of 30 cent a gallon gas because we actually needed nuke plants?
I think it was less than that.
I know because, when it hit 33 cents a gallon, my father was so outraged, he went and bought a used Mercedes because it ran on diesel (which was selling then at .18 a gallon).
Forgetting the fact that getting service on a Mercedes in Fresno, CA at that time was going to more than offset any savings...
i blame raygun, Terry. he began the destruction of quality public education in this country and the bushes have finished the job. critical thinking skillz are granted to so very few, while many are brainwashed into becoming unthinking consumer-sponges. it's sad.
chicago dyke, fresh aunt
It is sad.
Hannity would rather smear the next American President than visit our troops
Hard to say Lance is a puke:
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/07...ong-veers-left/
A. Morphous, jerked around | 07.26.08 - 11:30 am |
Being against the war doesn't autmoatically make you a liberal.
a face like a rat,
The body ain't bad.
;(
I think the tell, the metric for when the US is heading for a Yugoslavia breakup, is to watch the violence rates between people.
Up to the beginning the raygun administration those rates were dropping. I think they were mostly stable till 2000.
What are the numbers now, if you look at the DOJ stats?
Whoops -
meant this:
Amazing how we are able to have suffering animals put down (NOT that THAT is an EASY thing to do), but allow people to go on suffering because of outdated stupid religious beliefs and greedy doctors.
Terry C
the problem is people like my evil grandmother. some days, i feel perfectly willing to help her along her way. and back when she was first diagnosed with a managable but difficult disease, all she could talk about was 'pulling the plug.' (she's such a drama queen) her disease won't kill her, but if we hadn't pushed her, she would've tried to starve herself or something stupid like that, just to avoid a few years of (admittedly hard) physical therapy.
i just don't trust all families and all elders to always make the right choice, given freedom/power over life and death like that. seems to me it's better to err on the side of caution, and advocate for the properly humane use of pain relief.
Kids, it doesn't get much hipper than this.
Just say "swordfish" to the guy at the door...
Some men sacrificed their sons for their nation. George Herbert Walker Bush sacrificed his nation for his son.
Whoops -
meant this:
Heh. I interpreted your initial emoticon as sort of an appraising ogle.
sheryl crow
"I'm not a goddam bike. Keep your legs still."
Some men sacrificed their sons for their nation. George Herbert Walker Bush sacrificed his nation for his son.
Tim Horton
POST OF THE DAY
I think that Lance is getting paid to endorse McBombBomb.
No evidence. Just a thought.
Just don't get any onya.....
Just say "swordfish" to the guy at the door...
dave™©
"I got a haddock.
What do you take for a haddock?"
And a little something for all you do lovers...
Lance Armstrong, another nutless wonder for McCain.
obama needs to speak directly to the young folks almost/nearly as a separate outreach. they have their own agenda too...
can't think of anything the msm/wingers can come up with to denigrate (or counter)such an effort.
Being against the war doesn't autmoatically make you a liberal.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
See: Paul, Ron
Lance Armstrong, another nutless wonder for McCain.
Doug
Maybe Cindy tells him where he can get some real kick-ass steroids.
I think the tell, the metric for when the US is heading for a Yugoslavia breakup, is to watch the violence rates between people.
Up to the beginning the raygun administration those rates were dropping. I think they were mostly stable till 2000.
What are the numbers now, if you look at the DOJ stats?
Doug | 07.26.08 - 11:35 am | #
One of the more interesting books on Yugoslavia was by a sociologist who pointed out there there was a history of violence in the SE Balkans, though not always ethnic violence.
http://www.amazon.com/Explaining...k/dp/
0231120540
Of course Europe itself has a long history of violence.
just finished Tony Judt's 'Postwar'
Got that in the primary "To Read" pile. Looks v. worthwhile...
chidy: pain relief is a whole 'nother discussion. sallyh and I rant on that one often. It isn't done well, often enough, or aggressively enough by most people.
Buckeye: I meant Todorovna's book, which, I think, you suggested...
TerryC: sure. A paraplegic, aphasic, incontinent stroke victim maybe isn't an ideal candidate for dialysis. The easy cases are easy. Now, let's say the same patient, incontinent, in a nursing home, is, despite all, awake, alert and takes huge pleasure, as does her roommate, in visits from her grandchild. Or let's say the doc is in favor of comfort measures only, but the patient's family is willing to pursue extreme measures that have a 10% chance of resulting in a good outcome.
bill b: reads like a novel, and a good novel, at that. Read it in under a week; couldn't put it down.
Pete for Veep [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
An e-mail:
As a Michigander I'm able to observe perhaps better than most the congressional career of Rep. Pete Hoekstra. As a conservative I've found that he is rarely on the wrong side of an issue while frequently courageous on matters little noticed but of great importance. He is even well spoken and perhaps even, telegenic. In my wildest fantasies I envision a campaign based upon hereditary Dutch frugalness.
We've had enough frugaling as it is.
The missing child case from Orange County, FL is so disturbing in that the mother of the child does not seem in the least concerned about the whereabouts
or fate of her child.
Gimlet: I've had patients--not many, but some--who've survived multiple organ failure and dialysis in the ICU and gone home--not to nursing homes, but home, resuming reasonable lives.
It's simply impossible to generalize about this stuff.
Vicki's just WILD about Pete. Not.
People who call for frugality while supporting, simultaneously, tax breaks for the rich and a trillion dollar war don't have much credibility, seems to me...
In my wildest fantasies I envision a campaign based upon hereditary Dutch frugalness.
"This pot is too expensive! I'll pay 10 Euro for the joint, but you have to throw in the hooker, too!"
It's simply impossible to generalize about this stuff.
ProfWombat
I'll concede that I described them stereotypically, but the point I was trying to make was the ethics of frequency of dialysis influenced by the fee and not the eventual outcome.
a college campus should come to be considered as one of obama's bases and treated as such...
wombat, what surprises me is how weakly the Greatest Gen, and now boomers, have fought for better elder care. the whole system sucks, top to bottom. even the very wealthy don't enjoy the end of life as i think they should in this country. i don't get it. i know i won't enjoy wealth and comfort at the end of my life, but i haven't been politically powerful like those generations were, and are. why they tolerate repeated republican denigration to the quality of end of life is beyond me.
"The Invention of Scotland" (Yale University Press, 304 pages, Hugh Trevor-Roper) claims that all the Scottish traditions you've heard about are myths to impress the rubes.
http://www.nysun.com/arts/hugh-t...scotland/82417/
In my wildest fantasies I envision a campaign based upon hereditary Dutch frugalness.
I can steal this island of Manhattan for a few beads!
All that oil under the Arctic could supply the US for a whole 12 years. Oh, Yay!!!
Being against the war doesn't autmoatically make you a liberal.
Indeed.
An unbelievable story line from FUX news - I can't believe an anti-McCain stort is even allowed on their site
http://bourbonroom.blogs.foxnews...ccain-mistakes/
Oh, the nerve of those Autism people not being hatey!
plantsman | Homepage | 07.26.08 - 10:39 am | #
plantsman,
Here's your hatey autism people -- a bunch of libertarian Ayn-Rand-esque fucktards, as far as I can tell.
http://hatingautism.blogspot.com/
Claims to be an autism advocacy organization. They are sure that chelation cures autism and that the government, Big Pharma, Democrats, and other autism organizations are in a giant conspiracy to keep that info from getting out.
Published an apology to Michael Savage last week. Now they are saying that Media Matters, directed by Hillary Clinton, is behind the whole thing.
Certified crazy, as well as hatey.
i grew up in the land of dutch 'frugality,' which usually included plenty of stealing from the community pot and beating of the wife. don't get me started on their religious hypocrisy. but they are also true, diehard republicans. the year the party ran a black man for gov, the only country that he won was the one thickest with those types.
Buckeye: I meant Todorovna's book, which, I think, you suggested...
ProfWombat | 07.26.08 - 11:42 am | #
Ah, this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Imagining-...17087329&sr=1-
1
Gromit: the ethics of fee-for-service medicine can be challenged across the board, and I certainly agree with you on that. The notion that, say, a urologist who invests in an expensive specialty radiation therapy unit, marketed principally to urologists, will be unbiased in deciding between surgery, radiation and watchful waiting in a case of prostate cancer is laughable.
time to go play with older niece. i've got to distract her; she doesn't know that she's getting a rocking horse and her mommy is putting it together.
later, bats.
People who call for frugality while supporting, simultaneously, tax breaks for the rich and a trillion dollar war don't have much credibility, seems to me...
It's hard to describe the wrong-headedness of these people.
The wingnuts I work with are sympathetic to the oil companies' profiteering, strongly support tax cuts for the rich, love the exorbitant military spending, and hate the idea of national health care.
Well, that was a nice, 80 minutes without power!
.
Buckeye: yup; a good book on both the primary subject and on the academy's response to it. A needed corrective.
The savagery, of course, must always, always be projected onto the ineluctably foreign, rather than acknowledged in oneself...
I've had patients--not many, but some--who've survived multiple organ failure and dialysis in the ICU and gone home--not to nursing homes, but home, resuming reasonable lives.
About 20 years ago, a friend of mine (female, around 45 yo) spent three weeks in a coma on total life support. Nobody thought she's make it. No diagnosis, other than multiple organ failure -- one system just shut down right after another. She had had a slight fever and headache for one day before severe onset of symptoms.
She recovered completely, although for a year afterward she had severe pain in her feet.
When the titres came in, she appeared to have had Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, probably incident to a tick bite she sustained on her farm.
Well, that was a nice, 80 minutes without power!
I love those!
"premature inauguration":
a bizarre, emasculating, buffoonish psychological phenomenon common in Dimocrat Party presidential candidates such as Barack Hussein Obama, John Kerry, Albert Gore, Jr., Mike Dukakis, Fritz Mondale, George McGovern, et. al.
chidy: yup. You'd think that boomers would arrange ideal elder acre out of naked self-interest, in the short term as their aprents age, and in anticipation of their own needs.
Hi, Brian. Still stupid, huh?
a bizarre, emasculating, buffoonish psychological phenomenon common in Dimocrat Party presidential candidates such as Barack Hussein Obama, John Kerry, Albert Gore, Jr., Mike Dukakis, Fritz Mondale, George McGovern, et. al.
And two-termer Bill Clinton?
I know watertiger has pointed it out, but isn't it kinda weird that McCain has Senator Lindsey Graham and Senator Lieberman, just kinda wandering around with him on the campaign trail?
It's fucking weird.
"premature inauguration"
Lubyanka | 07.26.08 - 11:57 am | #
plantsman: I love those!
The upside is... I have a shiny new transformer!
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"premature inauguration":
2. a common complaint among the wives of Dimocrat Party presidential candidates such as Barack Hussein Obama, John Kerry, Albert Gore, Jr., Mike Dukakis, Fritz Mondale, George McGovern, et. al.
you g-g-g-g-go, D-D-D-D-D-Dimocrats!
All that oil under the Arctic could supply the US for a whole 12 years.
Oh that's not true. Due to the harshness of the conditions and the greed of the oil companies, they would never be able to extract the oil that quickly. Which means it is a 24 year supply. It'll just be half as much oil for 24 years as for 12 years.
Yeh, the country's in great shape, ain't it Brian?
My brother in law had Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, treated in New York City for it by an amazingly perspicacious internist; it isn't exactly a common diagnosis there. We knew he was going to make it when his platelet count rose from 20,000 to 45,000, after a couple of weeks in the ICU.
The wingnuts I work with are sympathetic to the oil companies' profiteering, strongly support tax cuts for the rich, love the exorbitant military spending, and hate the idea of national health care.
My wife's boss falls into crazy wingnut land, and just the other day he was telling her that the reason gas is so expensive these days is because . . . (wait for it) . . . the Dems are trying to run the Republicans out of office.
Fuck, man, if the Dems had THAT much power to start, why would they let the ReThugs in to begin with?
"The Invention of Scotland" (Yale University Press, 304 pages, Hugh Trevor-Roper) claims that all the Scottish traditions you've heard about are myths to impress the rubes.
http://www.nysun.com/arts/hugh-t...scotland/82417/
Doug | 07.26.08 - 11:51 am | #
That looks interesting.
a bizarre, emasculating, buffoonish psychological phenomenon common in Dimocrat Party presidential candidates such as Barack Hussein Obama, John Kerry, Albert Gore, Jr., Mike Dukakis, Fritz Mondale, George McGovern, et. al.
Ronnie Reegun, G W Bush, Dick Cheney, J. Sideny "Walnuts" McCain't.
It's like shooting fish in a barrel, assface.
I know watertiger has pointed it out, but isn't it kinda weird that McCain has Senator Lindsey Graham and Senator Lieberman, just kinda wandering around with him on the campaign trail?
I have no idea what the hell they are doing. Unless they are RNC handlers.
That was a reply to Gimlet rather than Gromit; my apologies...
chidy: yup. You'd think that boomers would arrange ideal elder acre out of naked self-interest, in the short term as their parents age, and in anticipation of their own needs.
ProfWombat
I think the GOP would agree to a health care provision that included an ice floe as part of the management.
One of their governing principles is why should I pay for the other person's "problem".
but isn't it kinda weird that McCain has Senator Lindsey Graham and Senator Lieberman, just kinda wandering around with him on the campaign trail?
,
I guess Graham is there to make him look manly, and Lieberman to make him look handsome.
Yeah, all that tartan and clan Sir Walter Scott stuff was largely after the fact...
Buckeye: yup; a good book on both the primary subject and on the academy's response to it. A needed corrective.
The savagery, of course, must always, always be projected onto the ineluctably foreign, rather than acknowledged in oneself...
ProfWombat | 07.26.08 - 11:56 am |
Of course. I'm wonderful, you, however, are not. And perhaps even a danger to me, so I'll have to off you while blaming you.
The wingnuts I work with are sympathetic to the oil companies' profiteering, strongly support tax cuts for the rich, love the exorbitant military spending, and hate the idea of national health care.
The White House-confirmed propagandists at Fox Propaganda ensure that they remain misinformed about all things.
Hugh Trevor-Roper is a mixed bag. He wrote some wonderful books. But he also iirc endorsed some disgraced nazi diaries.
I have no idea what the hell they are doing. Unless they are RNC handlers.
Snow (D-SC)
Maybe they're reprising those Crosby and Hope "On the Road" things?
Need Curly?
.
(wait for it) . . . the Dems are trying to run the Republicans out of office.
Brillant individual, your wife's boss.
Sounds as if he's had about 90% of his brain removed.
I know watertiger has pointed it out, but isn't it kinda weird that McCain has Senator Lindsey Graham and Senator Lieberman, just kinda wandering around with him on the campaign trail?
I have no idea what the hell they are doing. Unless they are RNC handlers.
Snow (D-SC)
"The Road to Forty Years in the Wilderness."
John McCain as Bob Hope
Joe Lieberman as Bing Crosby
Lindsey Graham as Dorothy Lamour
s h e e t s
On The Road To....The Dairy Case.
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Here's a word of wisdom for you, Lubbie:
"I don't believe in suicide, but if you'd like to try it, it might cheer me up to watch."
City sheets.
D'oh, Roadmaster!
MP, get out of my HAID!!
(And grab a Coke, mofo)
"The Invention of Scotland" (Yale University Press, 304 pages, Hugh Trevor-Roper) claims that all the Scottish traditions you've heard about are myths to impress the rubes.
English Propaganda. Hugh Trevor-Roper? Please. So obvious it leaps at you.
If tartans and bagpipes are a mythical creation, why do the Irish have tartans and bagpipes? Why is there evidence of tartans and bagpipes in every area dominated by Celts?
Yo assface -
Is there any point you're trying to make by posting the dumbass stuff you post?
Snow: not the point, so much as that a lot of the conception of the Scottish past, like a lot of the Southern American past or the French past or the Russian/Soviet past, was manufactured after the fact.
not the point, so much as that a lot of the conception of the Scottish past, like a lot of the Southern American past or the French past or the Russian/Soviet past, was manufactured after the fact.
It was not manufactured after the fact. This book uses innuendo manufactured after the fact.
The book claims that tartans are an 18th century invention. The English forbid the wearing of tartans throughout the 18th century.
Snow: as always, I respect your opinion, and will read up on the matter before bloviating further...
"I can have a beer with Curt Weldon"-Jonathan Chait
Yeah. "Funny" how Weldon's legal problems started after he began exposing the Able Danger program.
Funny.
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