I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
oh yeah!
twice?
and three?
re post speaking of racists
JIM PINKERTON quit his Newsday column and resigned his Fox News contract to join Gov. HUCKABEE as a senior adviser to help fill out his policy proposals. Pinkerton tells Playbook he was lured by Ed Rollins, his boss in the Reagan White House political-affairs office, who said it was a chance to "restore the Reagan coalition," Pinkerton recalled.
"I thought, 'I'm not going to turn THAT down,' " Pinkerton recalled.
Mr. Willie Horton himself
nice people to surround yourelf for the Christian no negative advertising candidate.
home run?
i'll take the triple...
Beware the rehabilitation of Archie Bunker and the revenge of the Wallace boll weevils.
america for sale (there's whispers that citigroup will write down $24b):
Citigroup is putting the final touches on its second major capital-raising effort in as many months, seeking up to $14bn (€9.5bn) from Chinese, Kuwaiti and public market investors, people familiar with the negotiations say.
Under the proposal being discussed, the bulk of the money – roughly $9bn – would come from China.
http://calculatedrisk.blogspot.com/
I'm betting race and gender will continue to be wedges, especially convenient as substitutes for the class warfare and economic equality issues, where gender and race are still important factors.
They want women to be pissed if Obama wins, blacks pissed if Hillary wins.
They want women to be pissed if Obama wins, blacks pissed if Hillary wins.
trifecta | Homepage | 01.12.08 - 10:35 am
divide and conquer.
Soul Deep.
divide and conquer
vive le democracy.
[bangs forehead on laptop]
people are sheeple: teh joneses syndrome is part of that...they follow each other around virtually sniffing each others asses - teh 'popularity' of pop-culture alludes to that too...true art is not really popular, but lame and boring pop-art is seen as a societal advance
the press certainly has grown fat and complacent, using Karl Rove's "journamalism techniques".
Chimpy unsheathes his sword.
thank you, WT. for some reason, i didn't get it, and still haven't.
reposting from below:
And his team comes from Jesse Jackson's and Harold Washington's base.
you may provide specific names, and links, to back up this assertion. i'm not trying to be mean, but i know some of the folks who work on his campaign, and i wouldn't call all of them "harold washington's base" nor am i sure that anyone working for obama worked for harold. i could be wrong, feel free to correct me.
chicago dyke, foily | Homepage | 01.12.08 - 10:36
They want women to be pissed if Obama wins, blacks pissed if Hillary wins.
That's Doughy Pantload's wet dream scenario in a nutshell.
It's a nice thought....
I have noticed that the most overtly sexist and/or racist age group seems to be the one following mine. I have no idea why.
"Edwards has offended many Democrats with his candidacy. They question his authenticity and see his shift from optimism to anger as the sign of an opportunistic politician.'
And not one word about what he has actually proposed to do. Nothing at all about healthcare, regulation, holding the Corporate Media accountable. The Post does nothing but try and instill fear and doubt.
thank you, GW, for the email you sent me the other day. i will look into it. you are so kind.
Hmmm.
Ex-fugitive CEO wants access to law library
Robert Beale, the fugitive CEO captured in November, appeared in U.S. District Court in Minneapolis on Friday, describing himself as a "minister of Jesus Christ" and a victim of "involuntary servitude."
Beale complained that while in Sherburne County jail, he lacks access to a law library to plan his defense and had very limited use of a telephone to contact witnesses.
Assistant U.S. Attorney Timothy Rank said Beale had months to prepare when he was out on bond before he became a fugitive and was on the lam for 14 ½ months.
U.S. Magistrate Jeanne Graham took Beale's motions under advisement.
That is one devastating indictment of Chris Matthews at the link.
He needs his show pulled.
I have noticed that the most overtly sexist and/or racist age group seems to be the one following mine. I have no idea why.
GWPDA, Arthur & Angel | 01.12.08 - 10:39 am
What's the target age for this group following you?
"Edwards has offended many Villagers with his candidacy. We question his heterosexuality and see his shift from the lies and bullshit which dominate beltwayspeak as the sign of someone who threatens our gravytrain of wingnut welfare and our corporate masters.'
filleted your trout.
What's the target age for this group following you?
Tom - 大肚腩
aetat 1965 forward...
I have noticed that the most overtly sexist and/or racist age group seems to be the one following mine. I have no idea why.
GWPDA
Maybe sexist, but I think you're wrong about racism being any worse.
Matthews frequently obsesses over Clinton's "clapping"
-- which he describes as "Chinese."
I consider myself pretty plugged in and good at translation, but someone will have to explain that one to me.
and reading the link, damn! matthews is true scum. i don't know how anyone could watch him. that's almost shocking, it's so vile.
Not necessarily. Did you see the story of the man who beat his 4 month old daughter to death because she wasn't a boy.
You're going to have stupidity anytime you have people. Sometimes to the unbelievably extreme.
Hillary is certainly Matthew's boogieman. er BoogiePerson?
Somebody help me out here, what is the accepted usage now.
the generation just behind me is pretty startlingly racist. they seem to believe they're actually being 'post-racist'. sorry dudes, but believing that you're 'post-racist' doesn't mean you get to wear blackface.
and this is the present Target Market. urgh.
The media is trying to kill the Edwards candidacy and they will do it any way they can. He is a danger to them and their corporate masters.
The meme is "Edwards must be destroyed".
People, here and elsewhere, will always take note of race and gender and perceptions, not necessarily racist or sexist and to varying degrees amongst individuals, will be based on this.
People can try and preach that it should not be this way, but they are fooling themselves if they truly think it will ever be different.
Or is it Bogie.
Hello, all.
that's almost shocking, it's so vile.
chicago dyke, foily
Cumulatively, it is remarkably hateful, yes. And I have never been able to understand why this hostility exists. It's clearly personal - and yet how can it be? How is it possible for Matthews to be personally offended by the very existence of Sen. Clinton?
good morning, sinf.
Now I have myself all confused again. Too early on a Saturday for that.
Chidy:
David Axelrod was Harold Washington's media guy. For one.
Obviously Jesse jr.
Well I was born in 1965.
Hey, Sinf!
Well I was born in 1965.
blerb, born-again stoner
Me too.
afternoon moonbats 
I am all snuffly
Just driving by. I think I need a little break from the blogosphere.
I just found out that Sinf is ten years and one month older than me.
How is it possible for Matthews to be personally offended by the very existence of Sen. Clinton?
GWPDA, Arthur & Angel
Pehaps the Clintons snubbed and thus humiliated him on some occasion back when he was a nobody and they were the first couple.
I am all snuffly
Moonbootica, Employed
Forget it! Work in 24 hours!
How is it possible for Matthews to be personally offended by the very existence of Sen. Clinton?
GWPDA,
Speaking from the comfort of my arm chair and my many years of Catholic schooling, I'm thinking Matthews suffered some abuse from the nuns and as likely the good priests.
GW- i'm betting there are several incidents we little people do not know of, perhaps during the clinton years, in which hillary "offended" the media bobblehead pack by pointing out something Verboten in the village.
heathers all, they probably are still holding a grudge. i bet it was something really petty too, like hillary pointing out that they should focus on the issues instead of haircuts.
I just found out that Sinf is ten years and one month older than me.
Zap Rowsdower
Thanks. I feel MUCH better now.
noblejoanie | 01.12.08 - 10:50 am | #
Any chance this was a nun priest tag team on boy Chris?
How is it possible for Matthews to be personally offended by the very existence of Sen. Clinton?
GWPDA, Arthur & Angel
It clearly reveals some deep-seated insecurities of Matthews. Freud would have loved examining him.
Personally, I think he's mad from syphilis. And I haven't heard any denials.
Anyway, you all take care. See ya in a while.
None of this should surprise us. Chris Matthews acknowledged his feelings about Hillary Clinton long ago: "I hate her. I hate her. All that she stands for." And "she drives some of us [guys] absolutely nuts."
But Matthews' questionable treatment of women extends beyond Hillary Clinton.
Chris Matthews has been treating female guests as sexual objects for years. He has been judging women -- senators, presidential candidates, the speaker of the House -- on their clothes and their voices and their appearance for years. He has been referring to women as "castrating" for years. He has been applying double standards to male and female candidates for years.
This is who Chris Matthews is. He is a man who thinks that men who support women politicians are "eunuchs."
Wow.
Thanks. I feel MUCH better now.
As if one thing has to do with another. 
I left you a message on the 'wall'.
I mean, I can totally see how a guy like Matthews would never forget it if his tiny, fragile ego had been crushed by some brusque dismissal in the past.
Tweety has mancrushes and really dislikes women
I think Tweety wants to eat Hillary's pussy in the worst way, but knows that he'll never get the chance. This is how a spoiled brat would act when he can't have his way.
rootless, thank you.
And you know that if blacks get pissed they "riot," and then we can tromp on them.
And if women get pissed they pull that Lysistrata thing, and then we can go to the brothel and do what we always wanted to do. Or maybe call in Jimmy Jeff.
Oh nice:
The US is at risk of losing its top-notch triple-A credit rating within a decade unless it takes radical action to curb soaring healthcare and social security spending, Moody’s, the credit rating agency, said on Thursday.
.
heathers all, they probably are still holding a grudge. i bet it was something really petty too, like hillary pointing out that they should focus on the issues instead of haircuts.
chicago dyke, foily
Honestly, I hope so. Something - however stupid - is better than just mad hatred. But what I keep remembering were the actions of the people in LVN I came up against - same language, same behaviour - and all before I had ever -seen- them. The causative factor was simply my gender. This is the awful component to it - I do not see how it can be corrected if there's no moving element.
Tweety has mancrushes and really dislikes women
Moonbootica, Employed | Homepage | 01.12.08 - 10:53 am | #
I think Tweety wants to eat Hillary's pussy in the worst way, but knows that he'll never get the chance. This is how a spoiled brat would act when he can't have his way.
Lime Rickey | 01.12.08 - 10:53 am | #
I think he is more interested in Bill
not to blow him but to be like him and he can't cuz he is a big loser
.I mean, I can totally see how a guy like Matthews would never forget it if his tiny, fragile ego had been crushed by some brusque dismissal in the past.
blerb, born-again stoner
In reality I think it was probably a less intimate kind of rejection, but I'd say this nonetheless cuts to the heart of the matter.
OT: No action is to be taken against any police officers as a result of the controversial arrest of a young woman outside a Sheffield nightclub which was captured on CCTV. The decision was greeted with dismay by the woman and her legal team, who said it would "fuel public concern" about the use of force by the police.
In a report published yesterday, the Independent Police Complaints Commission concluded that the police used "justified and proportionate force" in the arrest of Toni Comer in July 2006.
Comer alleged she had been assaulted by two police officers during her arrest on suspicion of causing criminal damage outside the Niche nightclub in Sheffield. The arrest was captured on the nightclub's CCTV, passed to Guardian Films by the Monitoring Group North organisation and broadcast on BBC Newsnight last March. It showed Comer being punched five times by an officer.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/
...2239584,00.html
unless it takes radical action to curb soaring healthcare and social security spending
Yes, clearly it is spending in those two areas which needs to be brought under control.
Fuck the fucking plutocracy.
By the way, has Stephanie Miller been on Hardball since she called Tweety a right-wing tool?
Supposedly Tweety wanted to be the Communications Director for the Clinton Whitehouse....can you imagine that?????????
and they politely declined
crissy is suffering from clitoris envy.
Oops. I quoted myself, dammit! I meant to quote Lime Rickey. That looks pretty bad.
The US is at risk of losing its top-notch triple-A credit rating within a decade unless it takes radical action to curb soaring healthcare and social security spending
I heard that on NPR yesterday and wanted to smash the radio. The bankers are pushing the lie that social security and medicare spending are out of control, and that Bush was right and the politicians need to cut or privatize the programs or the US economy is DOOMED.
Basically this is a way the corporatists are trying to compromise the inevitable Democratic government, using false propaganda to force them to tack right on policy.
Tom Delay once said:
" Earlier this year, I resigned from the U.S. House of Representatives and became a resident of the State of Virginia to establish my new business, and where I now legally reside, pay taxes and vote.
This decision was and is irrevocable, which I made clear from Day One."
He registered to vote in Sugarland, Texas last week. I don't think time or truth mean the same think in Tommy's world as in ours...
OT: A giant cloud of hydrogen gas is racing towards a collision with the Milky Way, astronomers have announced.
Smith's Cloud, as it is known, may set off spectacular fireworks when it smacks into our galaxy in 20-40 million years.
It contains enough hydrogen to make a million stars like the Sun, say experts, and its leading edge is already hitting gas from our galaxy.
When it does hit, the cloud could indeed set off a new burst of star formation in the Milky Way.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/scien...ure/
7184521.stm
hillary handed him his ass last week. little man.
Well I was born in 1965.
blerb, born-again stoner
Me too. - Sinfonian
You young whippersnappers!
Get off my lawn!!
Right wing Hillary derangement syndrome.
A major epidemic.
i don't disagree, GW. but i think it's a tad more complicated. plenty of the Villagers are "women," and MoDo and her ilk aren't exactly crusaders for feminist causes.
i think in the village, there are "good wimmin" who tow the line, throw out antifeminist strawmen, and cover up the homosexual practices of their fellow bobbleheads by providing beards and suchlike.
then there are "bad cunts" and "ball busters" like hillary or pre-speaker nancy, who must be castigated for making the menfolk look bad by doing a better job.
it's all about the cocktail party invites in the beltway, and when you're a golddigger, of course you hate women who are fun and popular without being so.
Smith's Cloud, as it is known, may set off spectacular fireworks when it smacks into our galaxy in 20-40 million years.
I'm going to put a folding lawnchair and beer cooler in the backyard, and wait for the show!
"Smith's Cloud, as it is known, may set off spectacular fireworks when it smacks into our galaxy in 20-40 million years."
Is it worth getting out of bed now? This sounds bad.
I heard that on NPR yesterday and wanted to smash the radio. The bankers are pushing the lie that social security and medicare spending are out of control, and that Bush was right and the politicians need to cut or privatize the programs or the US economy is DOOMED.
puppethead | Homepage | 01.12.08 - 10:56 am | #
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At first I wondered why Moody's didn't mention the cost of the war, and then I remembered that they are the rating agency that thought CDOs were totally solid because much of the debt was "off the books". Makes total sense.
it's all about the cocktail party invites in the beltway, and when you're a golddigger, of course you hate women who are fun and popular without being so.
I think that might be the most astute take on MoDo & Co. that I've yet read.
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) has released a new ad for his 2008 re-election campaign, heralding himself as a “Godfather of Green” and an “environmental champion.”
McConnell may know how to bring home the pork for his constituents, but that hardly qualifies him as an “environmental champion.” McConnell had a zero percent rating from the League of Conservation Voters during the 109th Congress, and has earned only a 7% lifetime rating.
McConnell’s anti-environmental stance means he faces the “the single biggest vulnerability for the Republicans,” in the words of Republican strategist Frank Luntz.
It's that time. Get out your Luntz box.
Smith's Cloud, as it is known, may set off spectacular fireworks when it smacks into our galaxy in 20-40 million years.
well, at least simels will be around to see it. i don't have health care, so my chances are a bit lesser in terms of me holding out that long. oh well.
The US is at risk of losing its top-notch triple-A credit rating within a decade unless it takes radical action to curb soaring healthcare and social security spending
The Chimp's legacy: to fulfill Reagan's goal of bankrupting the federal government.
It's the worst act of treason in US history.
The boss of Countrywide Financial will scoop nearly $40m (£20m) out of the US sub-prime mortgage lender's takeover by Bank of America - enabling him to go away and "have some fun".
Angelo Mozilo, who has been vilified for his role in the sub-prime credit crisis, agreed yesterday on a deal to sell Countrywide to Bank of America for $4bn in stock. The buyout amounts to a rescue for the business, which has been flirting with bankruptcy despite a portfolio of 9 million loans worth a total of $1.5tn.
As America's largest mortgage provider, Countrywide has shouldered sizeable blame for the industry's aggressive promotion of loans to low-income households. The company is under investigation in Illinois for misleading customers about their repayment commitments.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/
busine...risis.useconomy
Smith's Cloud, as it is known, may set off spectacular fireworks when it smacks into our galaxy in 20-40 million years.
Another fucking spectacular I'll never get to see!
.I heard that on NPR yesterday and wanted to smash the radio. The bankers are pushing the lie that social security and medicare spending are out of control, and that Bush was right and the politicians need to cut or privatize the programs or the US economy is DOOMED.
Heh. On KQED's Forum yesterday, one of the econ professors they had on went into a big diatribe against the war while ostensibly commenting on the prospects for a recession. I suppose that the presence of these two hours of local-based talk show programming in the mornings may tinge my perception of public radio a bit.
McConnell may know how to bring home the pork
I've heard the rumors about that.
I'm watching Conan O'Brien's return to the air episode, and it's basically little more than a bunch of bits that look indistinguishable from random YouTube videos.
Studios are stupid to let the strike go on, people are going to find better things to do.
who's leading now. thursday hillary put forward a stimulus package.
today white house working on stimulus package.
heh.
Basically this is a way the corporatists are trying to compromise the inevitable Democratic government, using false propaganda to force them to tack right on policy.
Did you see this article about the US Chamber of Commerce?
Alarmed at the increasingly populist tone of the 2008 political campaign, the president of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce is set to issue a fiery promise to spend millions of dollars to defeat candidates deemed to be anti-business.
"We plan to build a grass-roots business organization so strong that when it bites you in the butt, you bleed," chamber President Tom Donohue said.
Sick fucks.
I get that from male engineers who have an obsession to bring me down at work. I think it's out of insecurity. Thank God I no longer work with such assholes.
It's the worst act of treason in US history.
R. McGeddon |
yes. yes it is.
John McCain was racist in the SC debate, read it here:
John McCain racism during SC debate
Unfortunately it took segregationist Governor Wallace to reveal the truth that "there's not a dime's worth of difference between" Republicans and Democrats. The Democrats willingly went along with the War in Iraq, suspension of Habeas Corpus, detaining protesters, banning books like America Deceived (book) from Amazon, stealing private lands (Kelo decision), warrant-less wiretapping and refusing to investigate 9/11 properly. They are both guilty of treason.
Support Dr. Ron Paul and save this great nation.
i'm betting there are several incidents we little people do not know of, perhaps during the clinton years, in which hillary "offended" the media bobblehead pack by pointing out something Verboten in the village.
I wish I was joking, but it's well known that in the first year she didn't invite Sally Quinn to a party and it was all downhill from there.
It's the worst act of treason in US history.
R. McGeddon |
yes. yes it is.
chicago dyke, foily
"The country needed to be destroyed in order to save it!"
From below:
So it doesn't trouble you that a lot of Obama's successful branding strategy involves deliberately glossing over really crucial issues like gay rights with ambiguities that seem to give the bigots a pass? I mean, I guess I can see how that's a great strategy with the public, but it makes me pretty queasy. I see him as to the right of Hillary based on that.
blerb, born-again stoner | 01.12.08 - 10:34 am | #
No it does not trouble me at all. There are many "conservative" citizens who reflexively vote republican because of "guns, gays, God". Defusing that advertising slogan is good - as long as it is not accompanied by any actual concessions to bigots. The fact is that the thugs get a lot of support from blue collar people who should be voting Democrat, but have been scared away on "social" issues. I think Democratic "activists" are much too concerned about symbolics and too little concerned about money and power.
rootless-e | 01.12.08 - 10:41 am | #
OT: An unemployed Dutch bricklayer who was made a scapegoat for one of the defining moments of 20th-century German history has been pardoned for his crime 75 years later.
Marinus van der Lubbe, 24, was beheaded after being convicted of setting fire to the Reichstag, an event Hitler used as a pretext to suspend civil liberties and establish a dictatorship.
But Van de Lubbe's conviction has been overturned by the federal prosecutor, Monika Harms, after a lawyer in Berlin alerted her to the fact that he had yet to be exonerated under a law passed in 1998. The law allowed pardons for people convicted of crimes under the Nazis, based on the concept that Nazi law "went against the basic ideas of justice".
http://www.guardian.co.uk/
second...2239610,00.html
From recent experience with a friend I must agree that something has to be done with healthcare costs.
Being forced into financial ruin before you die isn't right.
Blackwater destroyed evidence in the Baghdad massacre.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/
20080...4TfNnwDules0NUE
A homeless man hoodwinked hospitals in Austria into admitting him so that he could get a hot meal and a bed for the night more than 100 times in three years.
The 59-year-old Viennese pensioner toured the country's hospitals and clinics, often citing illnesses which were hard to diagnose to ensure the longest possible stay. "I came up with the idea of living in hospital in the cold winter of 2004-5," he told the police. "It's so wonderfully warm and you get something to eat."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/
austri...2239688,00.html
supermodel/engineer/neurolgist women face much discrimination.
From recent experience with a friend I must agree that something has to be done with healthcare costs.
Perhaps, I dunno... taxpayer-funded and government-administered national healthcare?
Does Donna Edwards have a good chance of unseating Al Wynn in the Maryland Democratic 4th CD primary?
Smith's Cloud, as it is known, may set off spectacular fireworks when it smacks into our galaxy in 20-40 million years.
i posted that story this morning! I was told it was boring.
Perhaps, I dunno... taxpayer-funded and government-administered national healthcare?
SteveNS | 01.12.08 - 11:06 am | #
Can't afford it - after the war in Iraq and bailing out every investor who relied on Moody's.
women in engineering do suffer a lot of discrimination.
and it's no laughing matter.
"I came up with the idea of living in hospital in the cold winter of 2004-5," he told the police. "It's so wonderfully warm and you get something to eat."
You're lucky to be alive, pal.
supermodel/engineer/neurolgist women face much discrimination.
trifecta
She makes me feels so inadequate that I hate not just her, but ALL trolls as a result.
Perhaps, I dunno... taxpayer-funded and government-administered national healthcare?
SteveNS
Single payer, medicare for all, you choose your doctor, yes, you are right... it is the best choice. Not perfect, but the best choice.
Just do it.
Tuesday the bullies from NBC are the host of the debate
they will attack Clinton, give Obama a blow job and ignore Edwards
The fact is that the thugs get a lot of support from blue collar people who should be voting Democrat, but have been scared away on "social" issues. I think Democratic "activists" are much too concerned about symbolics and too little concerned about money and power.
rootless-e
OK, but as I see it, Hillary is just pandering to a slightly different segment of that same demographic with her more hawkish foreign policy stance, and on balance hasn't made any more material concessions on the war than Obama has (at least not since the AUMF). In practice, Obama is also every bit as corporatist as Hillary too, AFAICT. So as I see it, your argument is that for some reason, you have more faith that Obama will tack to the left when elected than you do that Hillary will. For my part, I have about the same level of faith.
if you feel inadequate now, just wait a few months. you will be looking for appropriate areas for jumping to your death.
The fact is that the thugs get a lot of support from blue collar people who should be voting Democrat, but have been scared away on "social" issues. I think Democratic "activists" are much too concerned about symbolics and too little concerned about money and power.
while this is true, and indeed, i know i'm a fool for believing that reasoned appeals to the electorate translate into victory, it still disturbs me.
clinton (bill) spent a lot of time 'triangulating' which of course meant throwing progressives off the bus. NAFTA, DOMA, DADT, welfare 'reform.' did any of that make this country better? did any of that mean continued democratic victory in the WH or congress? no. it didn't, and forcing gore to run a similarly "compromise with the right" campaign caused him to fail to win by a margin large enough to overcome the follies in FL.
as a gay nonwhite poor person, i just can't believe that i shouldn't take obama (or any of them when they speak like this) at his word. it's OK for him to put a blatant homophobe on his campaign stage because "that's how we win." please tell me when i can expect him to deliver me my full constitutional rights? i'm really tired of waiting. and substituting "hope" for a plan.
Tuesday the bullies from NBC are the host of the debate
Matthews, Olbermann and Williams?
if you feel inadequate now, just wait a few months. you will be looking for appropriate areas for jumping to your death.
Taking home the Oscar this year?
The scientist credited as being the first to convince Tony Blair of the urgency of the climate crisis has accused green activists of being Luddites who risk setting back the fight against global warming.
In an interview with the Guardian today Sir David King, who stepped down last month after seven years as the government's chief scientific adviser, says any approach that does not focus on technological solutions to climate change - including nuclear power - is one of "utter hopelessness".
He says: "There is a suspicion, and I have that suspicion myself, that a large number of people who label themselves 'green' are actually keen to take us back to the 18th or even the 17th century."
He characterises their argument as "let's get away from all the technological gizmos and developments of the 20th century".
"People say 'well, we'll just use less energy.' Come on," he says. "And then there's the real world, where everyone is aspiring to the sort of standard of living that we have, which is based on a large energy consumption."
King calls global warming the biggest challenge our civilisation has ever faced, and famously, in a 2004 article in the journal Science, berated the US for its inaction, describing climate change as "more serious even than the threat of terrorism". But his vocal support for nuclear power and genetically modified foods has led to tensions with environmental campaigners.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/
enviro...arbonemissions1
Steve NS, nope. Better.
Matthews, Olbermann and Williams?
Russert and Williams
The fact is that the thugs get a lot of support from blue collar people who should be voting Democrat, but have been scared away on "social" issues.
uh huh. and you don't think those 'blue collar people' (though i question whether it's purely a class thing) won't eventually figure out that progressives aren't bigots, and won't go find someone more suitably bigoted?
the only way garnering that kind of support will pay off is if democrats actually GOVERN in a way which is pleasing to bigots. which makes electing them in the first place pointless. why can't we actually be progressive and stop throwing constituents under the bus in some useless attempt to court people who DO NOT WANT PROGRESSIVE POLICIES?
Nobel Prize!
Watch and learn people. Watch and learn.
No, wait -- gold medal at the Winter Olympics!
It's a fact: engineers and supermodels from overseas compete for the same H-1B visas.
From the US Immigration site:
The H-1B is a nonimmigrant classification used by an alien who will be employed temporarily in a specialty occupation or as a fashion model of distinguished merit and ability.
A specialty occupation requires theoretical and practical application of a body of specialized knowledge along with at least a bachelor’s degree or its equivalent. For example, architecture, engineering, mathematics...
.Just do it.
racymind
It's actually not such an easy thing to do, from a purely pactical standpoint. Completely abolishing the existing system with the stroke of a pen could be disastrous. It has to be done in stages.
A Darwin Award?
Tuesday the bullies from NBC are the host of the debate
they will attack Clinton, give Obama a blow job and ignore Edwards
Liars for Bush
To endear herself to the audience, Hillary should call Russert a "frog-faced motherfucker" and call Williams a "toad-blowing weasel."
puppethead, I'm Canadian so I don't need no stinking H1B visa.
In just a few years all the boomers will be covered under medicare
it's the perfect time to just do it.
the only way garnering that kind of support will pay off is if democrats actually GOVERN in a way which is pleasing to bigots. which makes electing them in the first place pointless. why can't we actually be progressive and stop throwing constituents under the bus in some useless attempt to court people who DO NOT WANT PROGRESSIVE POLICIES?
kidlacan
That makes entirely too much sense.
Cancel this person's account!
Can't we all just get along. Blacks, whites, womens, mens, young, old, countrywestern singers?:
http://tinyurl.com/3bq5nv
mimi is going to be the first supermodel pope. Ratzo is resigning to make way for the first female in the job. She also is going to correct the brush stroke errors DaVinci made on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel.
Iraq's parliament has passed a law that paves the way for members of Baath party to return to public life.
Tens of thousands of Baath officials were dismissed from public institutions after Saddam Hussein, the former Iraqi president, was removed from power in the US-led invasion of 2003 and barred from state employment.
The new Accountability and Justice bill, passed on Saturday, replaces an existing law that Sunnis have long complained amounted to collective punishment.
It was passed unanimously by the 143 members present in the 275-member parliament.
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/
...35C9871367C.htm
Trifecta, nope. Better.
To endear herself to the audience, Hillary should call Russert a "frog-faced motherfucker" and call Williams a "toad-blowing weasel."
Lime Rickey | 01.12.08 - 11:12 am | #
if she called him punkinhed and asked Williams who cuts his hair...that would do as well
puppethead, I'm Canadian so I don't need no stinking H1B visa
Yes you most certainly do.
the only way garnering that kind of support will pay off is if democrats actually GOVERN in a way which is pleasing to bigots. which makes electing them in the first place pointless.
Or put in another way, obscuring these bright-line social issues with fuzzy ambiguous talk is just another way of knuckling under to the bad guys. I am not impressed by it.
Moody's warns it may drop US bond rating from triple A
cahuenga, nope.
i'm really tired of waiting. and substituting "hope" for a plan.
chicago dyke, foily
U and me both, Little Sister. It's probably what makes us the unrecognised and potentially most powerful demographic right now. There are lots more politically disenfranchised citizens than any of the candidates see....
cahuenga, nope.
If you are Canadian and your specialty doesn't fall under NAFTA you need some form of an I-129 visa.
WASHINGTON — The fire-fighting system in the mammoth new $740 million U.S. Embassy in Baghdad is defective, according to documents obtained by McClatchy and U.S. officials, who said that their concerns were ignored or overruled in a rush to declare the complex completed.
"As far as I know, nothing's been fixed," said one State Department official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he feared retaliation for speaking to the news media. "The lives of the people who are working in that building are going to be at stake" if the complex doesn't meet building codes, he said.
The 104-acre embassy complex, which has been hit at least once by mortar fire, will house more than 1,000 U.S. diplomats, coalition military officials and associated personnel. U.S. diplomats in Iraq are still headquartered in a former palace of Saddam Hussein in Baghdad's Green Zone and haven't moved into the new embassy complex.
Last month, 19 days before he retired, State Department buildings chief Charles E. Williams certified key elements of the embassy's fire-fighting system as ready for operation, according to the documents McClatchy obtained.
His own fire-safety specialists and an outside consultant, however, had warned Williams and his aides repeatedly about numerous fire safety violations.
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m4003...&hd=&size=1&
l=e
It's actually not such an easy thing to do, from a purely pactical standpoint. Completely abolishing the existing system with the stroke of a pen could be disastrous. It has to be done in stages.
blerb, born-again stoner |
The corporatist state has already grabbed an inordinate share of the national wealth (top 10% with over half the wealth). National health care is about the only thing the working class has a shot at... may not be employed, but maybe medical bankruptcies and unnecessary deaths can stop.
OK, but as I see it, Hillary is just pandering to a slightly different segment of that same demographic with her more hawkish foreign policy stance, and on balance hasn't made any more material concessions on the war than Obama has (at least not since the AUMF). In practice, Obama is also every bit as corporatist as Hillary too, AFAICT. So as I see it, your argument is that for some reason, you have more faith that Obama will tack to the left when elected than you do that Hillary will. For my part, I have about the same level of faith.
blerb, born-again stoner | 01.12.08 -
11:08 am | #
Yes, but there is a big difference between pandering on "hawkishness" and economics and pandering on surface social issues. Obama wants to sell himself as "godly" and Hillary wants to sell herself as "strong on defense" and pro-business. As a practical matter, the "godly" have more interest in opposing thugs on populist lines than the hawkish or wall streeters have on voting for a "me too".
It's clearly personal - and yet how can it be? How is it possible for Matthews to be personally offended by the very existence of Sen. Clinton?
GWPDA, Arthur & Angel |
i've been wondering about that alot recently. there has to be some precipitating thing between them -- i was actually wondering if he had thoughts of being a close advisor type to bill when he first came to washington (and propelling tweety to ted sorenson history) and was rebuffed.
and i also think tweety wants to blow bill while being spanked by hillary. he's certifiable.
Yes you most certainly do.
cahuenga
Well, in the sense that sock puppets need documentation, yes.... Canadian sock puppets too.
something that leaped into my mind when I read the cover excerp in Atrios' morning line up was that in addition to race and gender there are other or at least another thing that concerns me ... it's the continual "Generational" divide.
I won't pretend to know the in's and outs of what it is, I just know that there is
I won't have alot of being separated by design from my children or young people in general
we all share the commonality of the tiny crown whorl that is our developing consciousness and to have ethat dashed over and over like a "dirty doll" abusable by a deliquent and now fully exposed cultural media who insist on generational differences to be oblique, obtuse, 90 or 180 degrees different from who they came from is nauseating and blatant usery by those that demand to see american society "perform" for them. screw that ... why not forget the worry and be yourself, even if that means being very similar to your parents.
Really, the apparent success of Obama's rhetorical strategy is a sad indictment of the intelligence of the American public. He's really good at that kind of shit, and even I have been hypnotized by him on occasion. But it's devoid of content.
cahuenga, my specialty falls under NAFTA.
Russert and Williams
Oh, Russert.
"Tim Russert is the anchor as everyman, the big talker with the street smarts, the man who hobnobs with presidents but aims his delivery at the working stiffs," wrote Howard Kurtz, with typical skepticism, in a 2004 piece in the Washington Post. Like many a celebrity profiler, Kurtz casts the most mundane act, when undertaken by a famous person, as an almost heroic manifestation of extraordinary character. Marveling at the fact that when Russert interviewed Yogi Berra, he got the Hall of Famer's autograph for his son and father, Kurtz writes that the event "makes clear that Tim Russert, media superstar, hasn't forgotten where he came from."
Presumed off the record.
pandering on surface social issues.
we are not 'surface social issues'. we're fucking human beings, just like you are, goddamnit.
Completely abolishing the existing system with the stroke of a pen could be disastrous. It has to be done in stages.
blerb, born-again stoner
stage one: eliminate "star wars" and redirect all those monies to a general health care fund.
stage two: change laws that restrict things like doctor choice and people with 'preexisting conditions.' establish that anyone may choose their health care providers and all health care providers will be compensated fairly for their services (eg pay all doctors at a rate somewhere around what most dermatologists get)
stage three: initiate a responsible tax upon insurance companies, and executive compensation
stage four: just as seniors got all that info about the donut hole program, send all americans a nice booklet detailing that they can now go to any hospital or doctor and receive treatment and not worry about payment
stage five: end the war/occupation, and change taxlaws so that companies like halliburton pay a fair share of taxes, which go into the general health care fund.
really, it's not that hard. the hard part of medicine today is supplying insurance companies with all that paperwork. that's what slows down the rate of care and lowers its quality. if doctors and health care providers didn't have to deal with the mountains of insurance paperwork, you'd be amazed at how much more time they'd have to make you well.
U and me both, Little Sister. It's probably what makes us the unrecognised and potentially most powerful demographic right now. There are lots more politically disenfranchised citizens than any of the candidates see....
GWPDA
Yes indeedy. Younger women face an even more insidious form of sexism in that they have been led to believe that if they don't succeed it is entirely their own fault. And to even suggest that sexism exists is to be a WATB.
CASTRO!!!
Completely abolishing the existing system with the stroke of a pen could be disastrous.
I don't believe that. Abolishing the current system hurts a few thousand workers at insurance companies. There are millions of people who are pumping ever-increasing wage dollars into these plans that don't even cover their medical expenses. Employers are also being squeezed by rising health insurance costs, damaging their competitiveness.
I'm thinking the sacrifice of the health insurance industry overnight would easily be absorbed by the immediate freeing up of wages for the vast majority of Americans.
while this is true, and indeed, i know i'm a fool for believing that reasoned appeals to the electorate translate into victory, it still disturbs me.
clinton (bill) spent a lot of time 'triangulating' which of course meant throwing progressives off the bus. NAFTA, DOMA, DADT, welfare 'reform.' did any of that make this country better?
I don't express this clearly even to me, but I think this is the core of the problem. Bill and Hillary triangulate most on economics and war while steadfastly TALKING about gay rights and choice. That's very different from what Obama is trying to do.
But, look, I agree that all three of these people are establishment candidates and are morally compromised and a terribly bitter pill to swallow. I don't like it at all.
John Kerry said the other day he doesn't believe race is a factor in voting - Americans have moved way beyond that - proving he lives in a millionaires bubble like the rest - when someone can shout out "Iron my shirt," and he doesn't get mugged by the people around him - or carry a sign saying the same thing - or pundits can talk endlessly about Hillary's cleavage and time of the month - they allude to it 'cause she's moody - then fuck all has changed with at least 30% of the electorate who we can conclude are dead stupid - change? I'll be long fucking dead when that happens - sorry!
mimi is going to be the first supermodel pope. Ratzo is resigning to make way for the first female in the job. She also is going to correct the brush stroke errors DaVinci made on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel.
trifecta
wow, I thought mimi was just a run of the mill Sears/Land's End wearing transvestite.
cahuenga, my specialty falls under NAFTA
I'm very familiar with NAFTA specialty requirements and jackass definitely isn't covered.
What I don't understand is, why is it admirable for women to vote for Clinton because she's a woman, but wrong for somebody to vote for the guy running against Obama because he's white?
Nick Kasoff
The Thug Report
The corporatist state has already grabbed an inordinate share of the national wealth (top 10% with over half the wealth). National health care is about the only thing the working class has a shot at... may not be employed, but maybe medical bankruptcies and unnecessary deaths can stop.
racymind
I dispute none of that in the slightest. I'm just saying that in order to get to a real, effective gov't-funded single-payer system, we will have to dismantle the existing system incrementally. So Hillary's plan that involves the existing insuance companies does not seem so odious to me, because I think that any workable long-term scheme for moving us towards single-payer will require intermediate states of that nature.
BAGHDAD, Jan 11 (Reuters) - Iraqi refugees are beginning to trickle home from abroad and other areas inside Iraq, but they represent only a "minute percentage" of the more than 3 million who have fled sectarian violence, a migration watchdog said.
The International Organization for Migration said in a new report on Thursday that internal displacement had slowed in 2007 thanks to improved security, but also as a result of ethnically and religiously mixed neighbourhoods becoming more homogenous.
More than 2 million Iraqis fled to Syria and Jordan and 1.2 million were internally displaced following the bombing of a Shi'ite shrine in Samarra in February 2006 that triggered a wave of bloodletting between Shi'ite and Sunni Muslims.
"Slightly more than half of the internally displaced plan to return home, but as displacement prolongs, this figure is likely to decline, potentially leading to the permanent segregation of communities in Iraq," the IOM said in its 2007 report on Iraq.
It said many of those coming home from abroad were returning to become internally displaced people (IDPs) because they could not safely go back to their home communities or their property had been occupied by others.
Conditions continued to deteriorate for internally displaced Iraqs in 2007, with many living in substandard or overcrowded shelters, and only 22 percent of the 142,000 families assessed by the IOM reported regular access to food.
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m4001...&hd=&size=1&
l=e
Cahuenga, I'm no jackass. I'm a professional engineer.
I'm very familiar with NAFTA specialty requirements and jackass definitely isn't covered.
cahuenga
How about professional EST test subject?
Tim Russert is the anchor as everyman
If "everyman" is a GOP stooge, then that description fits.
After reading Krugman's book and his take on universal health care, I come away with this.
85% of us are insured, almost all through employer-provided, non-taxed benefits. Universal health care would require some kind of tax, I know, I know, not if we eliminated some of the defense budget, but that's not going to happen soon. Do you honestly think employers will give their workers the dollar equivalent of the health care payment which in turn would offset the tax increase a govt sponsored plan would require? I don't and there's one of the rubs.
Bill and Hillary triangulate most on economics and war while steadfastly TALKING about gay rights and choice. That's very different from what Obama is trying to do.
so obama's going to triangulate on gay rights and choice while steadfastly talking about economics and war. same as it fucking ever was.
Obama wants to sell himself as "godly" and Hillary wants to sell herself as "strong on defense" and pro-business.
obama supports adding 100000 new troops to our military and spending an additional 40B on military stuff on top of the trillions we already do. that's hardly a 'surface' issue. nor is it "progressive."
;-p
I agree with blerb about Obama's speechifying - he's damned good at it and yeah, it's devoid of real Liberal values -
(And I do wish to point out that ironing is not necessarily indicative of a failure in political or social consciousness. I believe that ironing has become, rather than some sort of gender marker, a niche activity of some regard. This from someone who does indeed iron sheets....)
we are not 'surface social issues'. we're fucking human beings, just like you are, goddamnit.
kidlacan | 01.12.08 - 11:18 am | #
My claim is that we are sometimes distracted by symbolics, not actual power and money. I don't think anyone's actual rights are superficial issues at all.
...except for the part where he actually talks about anything, i mean. except Hoep!!1!
why is it admirable for women to vote for Clinton because she's a woman, but wrong for somebody to vote for the guy running against Obama because he's white?
I've long wanted to see what kind of president a white man would make. I hope -- nay, dream -- that someday I can find out.
because I think that any workable long-term scheme for moving us towards single-payer will require intermediate states of that nature.
blerb, born-again stoner |
Yeah, well I think the fear, uncertainty, doubt thing has worn pretty damn thin. Things are fucked up in healthcare. I am in it, deep. The stats are lagging behind the real picture. The US system is a fucking , fucking mess.
obama supports adding 100000 new troops to our military and spending an additional 40B on military stuff on top of the trillions we already do. that's hardly a 'surface' issue. nor is it "progressive."
chicago dyke, foily | Homepage | 01.12.08 - 11:23 am | #
Keep perspective: we are discussing Obama, Edwards, Clinton. None of them question the empire.
oh and NBC cut out Kucinich
who do they think they are- Fuk?
rootless: so campaigning with an anti-gay bigot and creepy fifteen-minute videos about women being fulfilled only by children? am i just being 'distracted by symbolics'? why should i expect this man to give a shit about my rights?
hey Obama must be right. I'm gay, so I'll just sit at the back of the bus for the next 10 months and dream of hope for change.
Really, the apparent success of Obama's rhetorical strategy is a sad indictment of the intelligence of the American public.
Well, then we're going to have to debate wither or not organizing to participate in the political process is a "good" thing, or a schtick propagated by a slick few that are tapping into the apathy of a significant, perhaps, naive, group of people.
I'm not gonna fault him for bringing folks into the fold; as much as I'm gonna fault those that, before his candidacy, didn't think that politics "effected" them. It's the nature of the beast; and he's damn good at playing that beast.
.stage one: ...really, it's not that hard. ...
chicago dyke, foily
Well, you've covered aspects of raising money and public support, but you haven't dealt with the purely logisitical issues, or with the fact that as invesment vehicles, insurance companies constitute a big chunk of the economy. A lot of people's pension plans are invested in them. If you just abolish them instantly, all those securities will cease to have value. Doing that is a bad idea.
rootless, i brought it up because i don't think obama is any less of an imperialist than hillary "i hate the iranian guard" clinton.
they both know where their bread is buttered. halliburton runs this country, and neither of them will do anything to change that.
The meme that private enterprise is somehow more efficient than government in healthcare is pure dogma. It must be relealed for it is, a rationale for greed.
hey Obama must be right. I'm gay, so I'll just sit at the back of the bus for the next 10 months and dream of hope for change.
KEEP HOPE ALIVE! KEEP HOPE ALIVE! KEEP HOPE ALIVE!
hey Obama must be right. I'm gay, so I'll just sit at the back of the bus for the next 10 months and dream of hope for change.
tweedles
if it's Obama you will be waiting more than ten months
mimi is going to be the first supermodel pope.
that has been done so long ago with the advent of the under throne pope bum camera
it was to make sure no "girl" was trying to be pope
The meme that private enterprise is somehow more efficient than government in healthcare is pure dogma. It must be relealed for it is, a rationale for greed.
cahuenga /i>
One hundred percent with you... talk about a hoax.
I've long wanted to see what kind of president a white man would make. I hope -- nay, dream -- that someday I can find out.
Prediction: they suck at it.
Do you honestly think employers will give their workers the dollar equivalent of the health care payment which in turn would offset the tax increase a govt sponsored plan would require? I don't and there's one of the rubs.
noblejoanie
Don't know. I do know that BC's Provincial Health Care coverage for a single person is C$31.00 a month.
We tried the white male Catholic President once.
Enough already of that diversity crap.
wow, I thought mimi was just a run of the mill Sears/Land's End wearing transvestite.
Nothing about mimi is run-of-the-mill. NOTHING! And nobody puts mimi is corner.
the only time I saw people as obsessed with taking someone else down as they were with me was with an African-American engineer who was on my team.
We tried the white male Catholic President once.
The Pope ordered him killed for being too independent.
Prediction: they suck at it.
NTodd
Your anti-white male bigotry is apparent.
It's people like you who are keeping people like me down.
racymind,
I wanna be your friend, chica. You can be part of the never ending round-robin scrabble party!
rootless: so campaigning with an anti-gay bigot and creepy fifteen-minute videos about women being fulfilled only by children? am i just being 'distracted by symbolics'? why should i expect this man to give a shit about my rights?
kidlacan | 01.12.08 - 11:25 am | #
There are many people in the USA who are prejudiced against gays, women, blacks, jews, chinese, etc. etc. Many of those kinds of people were part of the new deal coalition. The Repukes broke that coalition by exploiting bigotry and getting people to choose their prejudices over their pocketbook (and many "socially liberal" republicans make the opposite choice probably because they know that none of this applies to people with money anyways). What Obama is attempting to do is to at least split part of the coalition away from the thugs.
I'm going to make "nobody puts mimi in the corner" my mantra.
.Yeah, well I think the fear, uncertainty, doubt thing has worn pretty damn thin. Things are fucked up in healthcare. I am in it, deep. The stats are lagging behind the real picture. The US system is a fucking , fucking mess.
racymind
I'm not in the slightest arguing against single-payer as the endpoint.
I guess what I would propose is:
1) Force insurance companies to cover everyone, and to charge everyone the same amount for coverage. Directly subsidize particularly egregious losses stemming from this restriction.
2) Restrict the level of profit margin that is acceptable for insurance companies to those that are compatible with their stocks performing like government bonds. Then offer to buy those securities from investors.
In the end, the government will own controlling shares in all the insurance comanies, and will have gotten to buy them out at a reasonable stock price.
blerb, i'm not a policy expert, i'm a dumb blogger. a candidate who cared about peoples' right to live even when they are sick and poor, could easily find experts and wonks and others to come up with a plan to deal with what you bring up. as far as investment class people are concerned, well- that's a whole nuther discussion. but i don't have a "retirement plan" and so it's hard for me to feel for those who do, and may have to take some kind of temporary hit while we eliminate health insurance companies. millions of people like me are literally sick and/or dying, but the financial comfort of a minority is more important? i know, i know, lots of middle class people have investments and don't deserve to lose that value. but more of us don't, and it seems like no one ever puts our needs first. no one.
I just added Scrabble.
Bring it on.
Scottish ski resorts are preparing for a rush of thrill-seekers to arrive on their slopes today after a week of blustery and snowy weather has brought some of the finest skiing conditions to the country in more than 10 years.
Heavy snow coupled with 100mph winds earlier in the week brought chaos to many of Scotland's roads but delivered the perfect skiing conditions for the country's five main skiing areas.
Nevis Range, Cairngorm, Glenshee, The Lecht and Glencoe are all reporting superb fresh snow conditions of up to four inches in some places and virtually all of the country's runs are open.
http://news.independent.co.uk/
uk...icle3331291.ece
I wanna be your friend, chica. You can be part of the never ending round-robin scrabble party!
Molly Ivors
hugs and kisses babe! I loves da scrabble...I bought only a one-way ticket to Philly. Not kidding.
Your anti-white male bigotry is apparent.
I am also self-loathing.
rootless,
all those Obama speeches really warm the cockles of my heart. I'll just sit here at the back of the bus and dream about the glorious day of hope.
If Hillary wins we will have a three woman Dem leadership.Hillary Clinton,Nancy Pelosi and Harriet Reid.
I am also self-loathing.
You are the worst sort of white male, an "Uncle Todd".
There are many people in the USA who are prejudiced against gays, women, blacks, jews, chinese, etc. etc.
and let's give them every fucking little thing they want so they'll be our friends! yay! unity!
social issues have changed a lot since the New Deal, in that now we even address them at all. the New Deal has died, in part, because we never got the complete package. racism got in the way, leading lots of people who should have loved the New Deal to fight tooth-and-nail against it, so their most-hated Other Group wouldn't get those benefits too.
that hatred hasn't gone anywhere. the hatred is the problem. propping up prejudices would torpedo a second New Deal as surely as it did the first.
I wanna be your friend, chica. You can be part of the never ending round-robin scrabble party!
Molly Ivors
I can't decide whether I want to wangle and invite to this Scrabble fest, or not. I love to play Scrabble but my strategery is non-existent. Better to be thought a fool, etc . . .
Don't know. I do know that BC's Provincial Health Care coverage for a single person is C$31.00 a month.
GWPDA
But if an employer is currently contributing, say $300 or 400/month in a health benefit, I seriously doubt they'll give the difference to the employee who in turn will see higher taxes to fund the uninsured.
Krugman sees racism as the fundamental driver to Republican dominance. Following that logic, I see great difficulty in selling a universal health plan 1) when the vast majority are covered; 2) will see a tax increase; 3)with at least the perceived loss of choice--to cover the uninsured. And who are the uninsured? Unless it's predominantly whites, you'll see the Republicans milking that, the extension of "welfare".
You are the worst sort of white male, an "Uncle Todd".
You offend me, sirrah.
You are the worst sort of white male, an "Uncle Todd".
He's a Steppin' Fetchmeaneclair.
put another way, blerb: how many poor children need to die, so that a middle class couple can have a second vacation/retirement home?
Well, I am just not going to comment until later today because this news shit is just too stupid of a Saturday. But this did draw my sorry attention. . .
The US is at risk of losing its top-notch triple-A credit rating within a decade unless it takes radical action to curb soaring healthcare and social security spending, Moody's, the credit rating agency, said yesterday.
Gee, you don't think we could cut our spending by, like, stop spending on STUPID FUCKING WARS and INSANE MILITARY SPENDING and INCREDIBLY STUPID TAX CUTS FOR RICH PEOPLE do you?
Like Atrios says, "The stupid, it burns. . . ."
I love to play Scrabble but my strategery is non-existent. Better to be thought a fool, etc . . .
I suck at it--too impatient, among other things--but I still play.
I'm objectively pro-Scattergories.
Never play Scrabble with a Canadian.
I think they spend their winters cooped up doing nothing but playing boardgames.
basically: never underestimate the willingness of people to work against their own interests just to spite others. that's what this approach does. people won't overcome their bigotry to get the good financial things promised. they'll deny themselves every good thing to feed their bigotry.
You offend me, sirrah.
I challenge you to a round of golf at twenty paces.
NO CADDIES.
I think they spend their winters cooped up doing nothing but playing boardgames.
You just described us Minnesotans, as well...
But if an employer is currently contributing, say $300 or 400/month in a health benefit, I seriously doubt they'll give the difference to the employee who in turn will see higher taxes to fund the uninsured.
noblejoanie
My district is paying $1300 a month for my health insurance. . . .
V4V, it helps that you can't cheat--although I suppose we could all be poring over our dictionaries at home...
In meatspace Scrabble, my expertise is talking people into marginally legal words.
If Hillary wins we will have a three woman Dem leadership.Hillary Clinton,Nancy Pelosi and Harriet Reid.
Plan9
this is incredibly sexist. i laughed anyway.
LOL!
I remember when Matthews got all weepy when algore finally accepted reality and conceded in 2000—remember sore Loserman finally deciding he would “go back to Tennessee, mend some fences” and blah blah blah . . . . Chris cried like a baby and Manbearpig returned to the beltway asap.
And Chrissie should just `fess up and wear a big blue button on air, “Democrats, 2008!” and we’ll keep wearing Old Glory pins.
cahuenga, it's table hockey they play
I didn't even know there was a strategic element to Scrabble...
NO CADDIES.
Cinderella story. Outta nowhere. A former greenskeeper, now, about to become the Masters champion. It looks like a mirac... It's in the hole! It's in the hole! It's in the hole!
I suck at it--too impatient, among other things--but I still play.
If you're impatient, why are we all waiting for you?
Never play Scrabble with a Canadian.
I think they spend their winters cooped up doing nothing but playing boardgames.
cahuenga
Plus they hog all the Us.
Shit, if I joined the scrabble rabble I would never, ever get anything done. I spend enough time online as is.
You just described us Minnesotans, as well...
Californians waste their time frolicking outdoors.
But we’re good at it.
watertiger, are you still around? i'm still not seeing it in my inbox. /plays twilight zone music/
I didn't even know there was a strategic element to Scrabble...
Of course there is.
It helps if you do crossword puzzles, as well. Which doesn't explain my non-success at the game.
My district is paying $1300 a month for my health insurance. . . .
DWD
Teachers' unions might be able to negotiate the conversion of that benefit to a salary increase, but for most workers in this country, with fewer than 10% unionized, I doubt you'd see this. (My dad was a union leader, I know how much they gave up to get health and pension benefits for current and retired members only to see that thrown out by the Republican administrations.)
Tweety's girlfriend Erin Burnett is a maroon.
I once played "humuhumunukunukuapua'a" in Scrabble, but it was challenged 'cause it has that damn apostrophe in it.
I hate when they don't allow words like Zen.
fucking commie dictionary.
Molly,
Did my full hour on the treadmill already. (yep, I am proud - and damned tired)
I'm going out to play with my brand spanking new Smart Car some more. I have to learn how to park both ways with it.
Plus they hog all the Us.
We dou nout.
I didn't even know there was a strategic element to Scrabble...
oh hell yes. it can get fucking vicious, too, with people stealing away the Triple Word Score with a word like 'eh' just so the current leader can't use it....
but i don't have a "retirement plan" and so it's hard for me to feel for those who do, and may have to take some kind of temporary hit while we eliminate health insurance companies.
You are talking about stealing people's life savings from them. You may be poor now, but you are still young. One day, you may have saved yourself your own pile of money for your house purchase/retirement/kids' college/whatever and have it invested in something safe and sensible like health insurance company stocks. What you are saying is that that future you just deserves to be cast into utter poverty so that the curent you won't have to suffer now. That is a shocking lack of compassion for people who are probably more like you than you may want to admit. not all people who have savings belong to some shadowy class of undeserving evil wealthy capitalists who deserve what they get. Futhermore, the mentality that they do is cut from the same cloth as more common types of bigotry.
It does not need to be thus. It can be accomplished in a way that takes care of everybody and does not wreck anybody's life.
Shit, if I joined the scrabble rabble I would never, ever get anything done. I spend enough time online as is.
qlª
That's another thing.
I'm already trying to figure out how I'm going to fit in all the screwing around I plan to do today.
It helps if you do crossword puzzles, as well.
Crosswords, I like. Scrabble... meh.
I didn't even know there was a strategic element to Scrabble...
SteveNS
It's incredibly competitive. I played with a woman at work until I caught her cheating.
My wife is a big Scrabble fanatic. It's a religion.
I once played "humuhumunukunukuapua'a" in Scrabble, but it was challenged 'cause it has that damn apostrophe in it.
rorschach, meh
I might have been a little curious as to how you came to have 20 tiles in your rack, myself.
Hrm.
I'm supposed to drive to Houston today (where I am told I'll be meeting Ira Glass), but somehow my packing isn't getting done all by itself...
Did my full hour on the treadmill already.
Bravo!
I'm on an every other day kick, timed to when my gym offers day care.
If I wait late enough in the day, Google will give me the answers first off to the tough puzzle questions....
I played with a woman at work until I caught her cheating.
qlª
Did they ever manage to extract the fistful of wooden tiles out of her nostrils?
I need to quit playing with Molly. She cheats by getting more points.
I might have been a little curious as to how you came to have 20 tiles in your rack, myself.
V for Virginia, free at last! | 01.12.08 - 11:44 am | #
My rack is rather incredible, 'tis true.
Well,when is the scrabble rabble?
omg squeeeeee ira glass! i used to gaze dreamily at his picture in my Intro to Comm textbook.
I might have been a little curious as to how you came to have 20 tiles in your rack, myself.
I've heard rorschach has a lovely rack.
I challenged someone to a game.
They haven't responded yet.
Never play Scrabble with a Canadian.
I think they spend their winters cooped up doing nothing but playing boardgames.
cahuenga
Do Canadians put extra "u's" in every word, like the fucking English do?
....and a coke to the man himself.
racymind, confirm my friendship request and I can invite you in. Right now, facebook just thinks I'm stalking you.
omg squeeeeee ira glass! i used to gaze dreamily at his picture in my Intro to Comm textbook.
kidlacan | 01.12.08 - 11:45 am | #
It is a rather crazy confluence of events; I'm really looking forward to it.
I've heard rorschach has a lovely rack.
Molly
No flirting!
I'm teeeeeeelllllllllling.
Zap,
You playing online?
If you're impatient, why are we all waiting for you?
I don't want to think about it. Brain hurt.
Do Canadians put extra "u's" in every word, like the fucking English do?
Fuuck yeus.
They haven't responded yet.
Just did. Is that Zapette?
It is a rather crazy confluence of events; I'm really looking forward to it.
rorschach, meh
Tell him Virginia loooooooooves him!
I'm gonna get my errands done so I can engage in a full schedule of assal horizontality.
Have fun, sweeties!
Yeah, cahuenga.
I've heard rorschach has a lovely rack.
Molly
No flirting!
I'm teeeeeeelllllllllling.
qlª | Homepage | 01.12.08 - 11:46 am | #
Miriam and Thers both already know about my phenomenal rack.
I think the strangest canadian word is jewellery. It means bacon.
Off for a trail ride on the beach.
Don't forget to visit Bush's blog!
put another way, blerb: how many poor children need to die, so that a middle class couple can have a second vacation/retirement home?
chicago dyke, foily
I think my previous post addressed this somewhat, but that is a completely false dichotomy. No children need to die and no retirees need to be bankrupted and thrown in the street. That is the whole problem with change of a revolutionar nature. Undeserving people always get severely fucked when it happens.
The government needs to force the insurance companies to allow themselves to be incrementally bought out and taken over by what will ultimately be the universal single-payer system. That approach will lead to the desired endpoint without fucking anybody over.
"Do you honestly think employers will give their workers the dollar equivalent of the health care payment"
Worked with some one who tried that. Switched to their husbands health care. He worked at a different company. They demanded the $800 dollars or so be added to their check. Shortly after they were in the unemploment line begging for a job.
Just did. Is that Zapette?
'Tis.
I responded... me and my fairly nice rack.
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oh, hell, that didn't work!
so much for my rack!
spice rack
Yesterday I saw a poster announcing that on Jan. 24, Joel Bakan, writer of "The Corporation", will be giving a lecture here in my little northeastern backwater.
Definitely going to have to attend that.
Your turn, Molly.
Pancakes. Laytah!
he who controls the spice rack controls the universe.
oh, hell, that didn't work!
so much for my rack!
ginger
Halscans whitespace-stripping feature is a bitch for would-be cartoonists. It ruined my tasering of Incog tagically.
GWPDA, doesArthur have a new friend? I haven't been here all week, who is Angel?
Well, the tree guys just left. Everything looks good. They actually took all the stuff away, so no need to buy a chainsaw. We really didn't need any of it for firewood. Now we might be able to grow some tomatoes and things on the south side of the house, with all the light that will be coming in there.
My wife complains about online Scrabble play because everyone is so busy doing wildcard Google searches for words that it takes all the fun out of it. She also said it’s quite common for people to just stop in the middle of a game if they see that they are going to lose, they don’t want a loss to effect their ranking.
rootless: so campaigning with an anti-gay bigot and creepy fifteen-minute videos about women being fulfilled only by children? am i just being 'distracted by symbolics'? why should i expect this man to give a shit about my rights?
kidlacan | 01.12.08 - 11:25 am | #
Substantially - what is the difference between Obama's carefully triangulated position and that of the other two? I don't see any, but maybe I missed it.
blerb, correct me if i'm wrong, but when one invests in the stock market, one knows there are "risks," right? that is, there is no promise that the investment will pay off, and indeed, everytime you buy a stock, the person who sells it to you is equally convinced that it will go down in value.
my mom took a bath in the market crash of the late 90s. she didn't complain, she knew the risks. and she was smart enough to have other investments not tied to the markets, upon which she will still be able to retire comfortably.
and no, i won't have a retirement fund someday. why? because our health care system sucks so bad, my fully insured, properly planned for his retirement, life long taxpaying father, can't afford the care he now needs, and i have more or less given up any chance at a $making career to care for him. because if i don't, he'll be left in the care of underpaid strangers who'll leave him sitting in his own shit.
...sorry, i'm a little edgy about health care issues these days. forgive me for not being as reasonable as i should. i know your arguments have merit.
All right, I'm a-goin' ta pack and hit the road.
Next post in Houston.
Well, the tree guys just left. Everything looks good. They actually took all the stuff away, so no need to buy a chainsaw. We really didn't need any of it for firewood. Now we might be able to grow some tomatoes and things on the south side of the house, with all the light that will be coming in there.
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sometimes I wonder, just by a response to his behavior, if someones doesn't have Reids lower drooping tangle junk in their pocket
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Blerb,
I am sorry, I don't feel much obligation to the insurance companies. A single payer (government) system is the only practical solution. We have one in place already, we simply expand it to cover everyone. Insurance companies can go to hell for all I care.
Think Katrina water damage, not wind damage.
Think CIGNA killing that child
Think
"Media Matters" is doubly-significant when it comes to infotainwhores like Tweety and his ilk-- they are media "matters", in the lesser-used sense of:
yellow matter custard
dripping from a dead dog's eye
Hmm.
That was a spectacular failure.
rootless,
you don't see, because you're an asswipe with no eyes. try being gay for a day, you'll find it ain't fun when a leading dem candidate proclaims you really don't count.
rootless, that's sort of the problem: i don't *know* what obama's positions are. and he won't tell me. and yes, i've read his platform on his website, to the extent it's possible.
Well, I don't cheat, but I can't speak for anyone else.
Once in a while, I do look up 2 letter words, however.
There are many people in the USA who are prejudiced against gays, women, blacks, jews, chinese, etc. etc.
and let's give them every fucking little thing they want so they'll be our friends! yay!
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kidlacan | 01.12.08 - 11:36 am | #
What did Obama agree to give them? That's what I mean by symbolics.
scrabble is really hard when you play in cuneiform. just sayin.
my future employer is The National Health Service
interestingly enough two of my cousins work as nurses in the NHS, as did my mum.
Safe trip, rors!
I should start cheating. On a horrendous losing streak.
rootless, that's sort of the problem: i don't *know* what obama's positions are. and he won't tell me. and yes, i've read his platform on his website, to the extent it's possible.
kidlacan
You don't like boilerplate feel good and platitudes?
Speaking of frolicking...
Is Incog back with a new name?
scrabble is really hard when you play in cuneiform. just sayin.
Any of the pictographic languages, really.
I presume that Ror's not going to Houston, MN...
It'd be a shorter trip.
Is Incog back with a new name?
SteveNS
Hard to say, anyone been called a heteropuke yet?
scrabble is really hard when you play in cuneiform. just sayin.
chicago dyke, foily
Simels beat Gilgamesh in the Greater Babylonian finals.
He won four goats, and some myrrh
Hieroglyphic Scrabble?
What did Obama agree to give them? That's what I mean by symbolics.
he gave them a gay-hating pastor on his campaign stage. he never seems interested in addressing injustice, just in making it all go away through unity and hope and all that fucking crap and i don't particularly feel like having my civil rights used as a goddamn bargaining chip.
the concer troll = the rootless incog. ding ding ding
From the Dan Balz WaPo link @ 7:56:
John Edwards is the forgotten man in the race for the Democratic nomination, but he's not an inconsequential candidate.
Edwards, the angry populist of Iowa who may become a Southern-fried Democrat as the South Carolina primary unfolds, has a critical decision ahead. How long can, or should, he keep his candidacy going?
Labeled "analysis," the first sentence is one more example of the MCM* calling its own machinations somehow the will of the people--or what just happens.
Edwards "forgotten"? If so, it's because he has been almost totally ignored by the MCM, except to be dissed, denigrated, and dismissed. He was given some attention recently only when he went after Hillary, and, now, he gets it for his predicted political demise.
Even in saying Edwards is "not an inconsequential candidate," Balz gets it wrong: He calls him consequential only regarding his effect on voting outcomes for Hillary or Obama, not for the fact that his issues and language have been taken up, to some extent, by both Obama and Clinton. His voice is important in changing the way all the Dem candidates are talking about economic issues and healthcare. But not to Balz, because ignoring that part is the most important task of any MCMer.
If there really had been journalism practiced by the MCMers, Edwards' policies and stands would have been given fair and equal treatment. There would have been, as Kathleen Hall Jamison called for last night on Bill Moyers' Journal, a series of compare and contrasts, differentiations, explications of all the main candidates' issues. They would have been asked questions about the issues, with their answers compared. The voters would have been informed about issues, not just gossip and speculation.
We are so fucked by these MCMers and their corporate overlords.
*MCM--Mainstream Corporate Media; MCMers--Members of the MCM
. my fully insured, properly planned for his retirement, life long taxpaying father, can't afford the care he now needs, and i have more or less given up any chance at a $making career to care for him. because if i don't, he'll be left in the care of underpaid strangers who'll leave him sitting in his own shit.
I am very sorry to hear of your misfortune in that. Eliminating that kind of situation should of course be the highest priority of any scheme to nationalize health care. If he is/was insured, it could be done simply by forcing his insurer to pay for his healthcare at his pre-illness premium level. Alternately, if he is no longer able to keep a job, he should get automatic medicaid coveage based on his disability status.
molly, i like to play that game where you match tiles with funny pictures on them, mah jong or whatever it's called.
i almost failed a grad level anthro seminar one year, because i was so addicted to the version i had on my computer.
Is Incog back with a new name?
So some say.
I will preview in the future, even if haloscum is acting up. I apologize for a big chunk of bolded slanties. I cannot and will not blame Steve Simels.
Isn't pictograph Scrabble Mah Jongg?
Or Dominoes?
To which I should add that none of those things are incompatible with the plan I suggested for the incremental transition.
Once in a while, I do look up 2 letter words, however.
Well, they provide you with a list in the interface, so why not?
naughts and crosses
but instead have shot glasses
So some say.
Molly Ivors
Jeez. If I don't come here every day, I can really fall behind on stuff.
We should have a newsletter or something.
The Daily Eschaton?
i almost failed a grad level anthro seminar one year, because i was so addicted to the version i had on my computer.
(hangs head)
I still love that one.
scrabble is really hard when you play in cuneiform. just sayin.
chicago dyke
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opens up the endless possibilities of interpretation and representation and the abuse of boaf
OT: Six protesters have been arrested in Sardinia after clashes with Italian police over tonnes of rubbish shipped to the island from Naples.
About 1,000 protesters in Sardinia's capital, Cagliari, burned rubbish containers and threw stones at the police injuring eight on Friday night.
Sardinia was the first area in Italy to offer to take on some of the 100,000 tonnes of waste festering in Naples.
Protesters dumped rubbish bags outside the villa of the regional governor.
Ignoring complaints from opposition politicians, Renatu Soru, said the rest of Italy had a duty to show solidarity with Naples.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europ...ope/
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I cannot and will not blame Steve Simels.
Sure you can!
He'd cheerfully regret for you, since I think he basically agrees with the argument.
reminds me of Janis Joplin's song ... down own me
CD,
Me too. One of the bad things about moving from Win 98 was losing that stupid game. (or good things) I tried other versions but none were as good as that one. I actually did the entire tile set in under two minutes a couple of times. Addictive as hell.
OT: Armed men have raided a privately-run American school in the north of the Gaza Strip, setting fire to buses and stealing computer equipment.
It was the second attack on the school, in Beit Lahiya, in the past two days. On Thursday a rocket-propelled grenade was fired at the building.
Hamas, the group that controls the Gaza Strip, has condemned the attack.
Correspondents say it may have been linked to US President George W Bush's visit to the Middle East.
In another incident, in southern Gaza, a Hamas policeman has been found shot dead.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middl...ast/
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or my gramma's lament "rain on Don" (her red headed sixth son)
chidy--You have every right to be upset. And, yes, most hospitals and nursing homes are undermanned and patients do not get the care they need without a family member or additional hired help there to take care of them.
I'm so sorry to hear about situation, and your dad is lucky to have you to help.
rootless, that's sort of the problem: i don't *know* what obama's positions are. and he won't tell me. and yes, i've read his platform on his website, to the extent it's possible.
kidlacan | 01.12.08 - 11:55 am | #
http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/
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On the other hand, Bill Clinton's first month in office saw him cave on a very explicit pledge about gays in the military and his explicit support for abortion rights coincided with 8 years during which practical access to abortions for poor americans continued to evaporate.
Hello again, lovely people.
least the weather today wasn't so bad, not raining for one thing
An observation: having good scrabble letters is a mixed blessing, since you feel guilty for not getting them 3 or 4 or 6 times over.
Michael Abramowitz had an awful article in the WAPO today on Bush’s claims of success in Iraq; reported from Kuwait.
I sent him this email:
would it have been too much work, while quoting Bush about the success of the surge, to have mentioned in passing how many Americans, Iraqis have been killed in the past year, and how much the US has spent on the occupation?
You leave this out? No context for the claims of success. As a 30-year reporter–now retired–I don’t understand what you could have been thinking when you wrote this article?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...ml?
hpid=topnews
My Dad's getting a lung removed on Tuesday.
I've never had to face the prospective mortality of a parent, so it's kind of freaking me out.
Re: #1 [Jonah Goldberg]
Thanks for the plug Kathryn. And thanks so much to all of the readers who helped move this thing up the charts. The ideal scenario is for this is for it to "debut" on the New York Times bestseller list next week (it's too soon for this week) because that will make it all that much harder for those who just want it to go away to ignore it.
Your "book" is a pile of shit, Pantload. Nobody with any sense will buy it.
If he is/was insured, it could be done simply by forcing his insurer to pay for his healthcare at his pre-illness premium level. Alternately, if he is no longer able to keep a job, he should get automatic medicaid coveage based on his disability status.
blerb,
blerb, he recently went blind. so no, he can't work. not that he could before- diabetes, emphysema, and a host of other illnesses have kept him pretty down these last few years. and for fuck's sake, he's over 65 and was a taxpayer and full time working person since he was 12. surely he deserves a little comfort in his golden years?
anyway, he does have insurance, as well as medicaid, and ha ha ha, they are so helpful and understanding of his needs. not. let me tell you about the wasted hours, just this week, trying to get blue cross to send him his new card.
me: what do you mean, you can't change your records to reflect his correct address? he's lived here for over two years, and you've been paying his bills here.
them: i'm sorry, only social security can give us a patient's proper address. our records indicate he lives (elsewhere) and that's where we mailed his card.
me: i'm holding three letters from SS in my hand right now, you stupid cow. each one of them has his correct address. how is it my fault your records haven't been updated.
them: fuck off, we're putting you on hold, click.
etc.
...i've got to run. thanks for tolerating my anger and bitterness. you people are really understanding and patient, and i appreciate that.
are you gay yet, rootless? try it, you'll like it, specially with Obama's speeches keeping you nice and warm.
.Blerb,
I am sorry, I don't feel much obligation to the insurance companies. A single payer (government) system is the only practical solution. We have one in place already, we simply expand it to cover everyone. Insurance companies can go to hell for all I care.
OK, now please try reading what I wrote and not ignoring the parts where I state clearly that the endpoint of what I am talking about is in fact a single-payer system --which I never disputed as the desired outcome -- and that it is not just the dehumanized "insurance companies" you are sending to hell but rather all those people, many of whom are perfectly middle class workers, who were foolish enough to invest their savings in them.
blue dog senator nelson to endorse obama. are we getting close to wondering why?
file under "who knew"
Apparently just a few minutes away we have a prostitution problem. The police are going to start posting pictures and personal info on the web of the prostitutes and their johns.
he gave them a gay-hating pastor on his campaign stage. he never seems interested in addressing injustice, just in making it all go away through unity and hope and all that fucking crap and i don't particularly feel like having my civil rights used as a goddamn bargaining chip.
kidlacan | 01.12.08 - 11:57 am | #
He gave them symbolics. That's not using civil rights as a bargaining chip. When Clinton caved to Colin Powell - that was an example of civil rights being used as a bargaining chip.
The other day I posted this little piece of information but I will do so again, just 'cause. When my wife visited her relatives (with her mother) in Sweden a few years ago one of the main ones that they wanted to visit was her mother's aunt. Ellsie was 94 years-old and still lived in an apartment by herself. She was in decent health but the government provided her with: meal service twice day, laundry service twice a week, a house cleaning service, twice a week, and in home medical care several times a week - FREE of charge.
Now. What country is the shining city on the fucking hill?
DAMMIT, MOLLY!
Brooks on punkinheds weekend show
talking about NH election
"I've decided to just lie and deny everything I said before the election."
what would be new about that policy.
rootless, i have no reason to believe that obama wouldn't do precisely what clinton did, or worse. he never did apologise for getting that bigot up on his stage, just mumbling some shit in that link about "talking to people we don't like", which, hey, maybe he should stump with some klansmen too, and have Prussian Blue play backup, and then we can all sit around the campfire together and talk about bipartisan ways to get the wimminfolk to make more sammiches.
.He gave them symbolics. That's not using civil rights as a bargaining chip. When Clinton caved to Colin Powell - that was an example of civil rights being used as a bargaining chip.
rootless-e
Well, rootless, I think you can see that Obama's pandering arouses just as much outrage in the breasts of those whom it gives short shrift as Hillary's does in yours. It is a zero-sum game, this pandering.
Moonboo, is it true that the first Scrabble was played in the Coliseum during the heyday of the Roman Empire, in which the gladiators would first carve or chisel assigned letters into the faces of Christian captives, then be required to hurl them in place on a field divided into squares?
The name arose, IIRC, because some of the human tiles weren't quite dead, and would annoyingly twitch and sometimes try to scrabble away until they were transfixed with spears (often Brittany spears)-- which, incidentally, counted as a Double Letter Score.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
DAMMIT, MOLLY!
I'm playing defense, dood.
(Actually, I didn't have anything else. Sorry.)
then we can all sit around the campfire together and talk about bipartisan ways to get the wimminfolk to make more sammiches.
I would very much like a sammich right now.
DWD--Shelby Steele was on Bill Moyers' Journal last night and said Obama can't flesh out his objectives--at least not make them part of his campaign speeches--since to do so would show him to have stands, opinions, etc., beyond hope and getting along. Steele says Obama has to present himself as a non-threatening black man, a person who shows whites they're absolved, and who can be whatever the person supporting him wants him to be.
Concrete presentations of issues and stands get in the way.
I'm not sure that really fits--but it seems lots of us here feel we don't know what his "change" means. Since what we do know is that his stands are pretty much like Hillary's, perhaps a bit more to the right on some things like SocSec and homosexuals, perhaps to the left (but I don't know which--on leaving Iraq? no), he is the candidate of "hope" and "change." Voters get to fill in the blanks.
Rootless-e:
Triangulating on stage with a homophobic bigot is praiseworthy exactly how? I'm hoping Obama will listen to the better angels, past behavior being no guarantee of future performance, etc., but the McClurkin affair was really disturbing.
Thanks for the plug Kathryn. And thanks so much to all of the readers who helped move this thing up the charts.
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charts that are regarded as squirming in your seat writing drival you feel compelled to write to prove you're not wrong...? What happened to your ability oh pantload one? Gave up on writing to become a sour inclusion in the strange brew of this era's ferment?
Visitor Online | 01.12.08 - 12:09 pm | #
heh
Well, rootless, I think you can see that Obama's pandering arouses just as much outrage in the breasts of those whom it gives short shrift as Hillary's does in yours. It is a zero-sum game, this pandering.
blerb, born-again stoner | 01.12.08 - 12:09 pm | #
Well, my candidate Kucinich was blown off by the electorate and the contributors so it's really down to a choice of which shit sandwich is less revolting.
just a bit of trivia on healthcare. As of 2003 (the last figures I have) Americas spent over 1/2 trillion dollars per year in lost wages and "medigap" costs per year. A good portion of that is for treatments in the last six months of life.
I've got charts too but they are dropped in the hamper ready for laundry ... you just go on wearing your's Jonah
Italy has quite a garbage problem on its hands.
And, I realized, if it's being hauled to Germany for incineration, it's going right through my town.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/
Well, Zapette messed me, too.
I would very much like a sammich right now.
If you were here, I would make you a burger with sauteed onions.
Michelle Obama made a great stump speech for Barack and indicated that Barack gets it. Made me feel much better about him as a candidate. Until I remembered Betty Ford.
Hey molly, we have a zombie in our game...
I like her a lot, ql.
But if an employer is currently contributing, say $300 or 400/month in a health benefit, I seriously doubt they'll give the difference to the employee who in turn will see higher taxes to fund the uninsured.
The point however to single payer as shewn in Canada is that the benefits are not funnelled thru employers. The group rate is the group of the whole. This is what makes the ultimate difference.
Zap--it is scary. I hope all goes well for your dad.
Well, Bobo is on the Saturday Timmeh show, which I've only watched for two times now, and he's pushing the racism of NH voters as the reason Hillary's vote exceeded the polls (which ended on Sunday for the most part).
Susan Page also said it "might" be a factor and the WaPo is going to reinterview all the people they polled.
But Bobo was disgusting--he actually stated facts which even the exit polls showed to be untrue, all to fit his Bradley Effect chosen explanation.
Because sowing the seeds of racial division within the Democratic Party is very, very important for Bobo and Rove and other ReThug strategists. They plan to do whatever they can to drive down the black vote if Obama is not the candidate--and the white Democratic vote if he is. It's going to be ugly. It's all they have this year.
Soon, we'll be off to the landscape expo at the Hubert H. Humphrey Metrodome.
We need ideas; and a place to find good, cheap bricks for our retaining wall.
If you were here, I would make you a burger with sauteed onions.
But I want a sammich.
I've never had to face the prospective mortality of a parent, so it's kind of freaking me out.
Zap Rowsdower |
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Zap, I found the Tibetian Book of the Dead to be a big help when my dad was dying. If that's of any use.
I poked him, racymind.
does Arthur have a new friend? I haven't been here all week, who is Angel?
therealhellkitty
Maybe! There's this little girl shar-pei who needs a new home - she's being fostered now, but depending on Arthur's attitude and a couple other things, we maybe will have her. Angel Josefina GWPDA, we hope.
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The point however to single payer as shewn in Canada is that the benefits are not funnelled thru employers. The group rate is the group of the whole. This is what makes the ultimate difference.
GWPDA
I'm talking about how this gets sold today in the US. I understand what you're saying about Canadian costs, but the transition here and now involves many issues and interest groups, each of whom can be manipulated by Republicans and insurance companies to feel shorted.
But I want a sammich.
Uncle NTodd
Well, if you were here, I'd make you one, but only if you brought good beer.
I certainly don't think generational change has gotten rid of racism and sexism, but I do have some hope that it is getting rid of this Archie Bunker-like obsession with race and gender.
On this day in history...
1971 – The American situation comedy All in the Family, starring Carroll O'Connor as reactionary, bigoted, blue-collar worker Archie Bunker, was first broadcast on the CBS television network.
Well, if you were here, I'd make you one, but only if you brought good beer.
Okay. I'm still sick, though, so I should prolly stay home and not drink beer.
Zap,
It' weird, facing up to losing parent. When my mom died, I was really shattered for a long time. You sort of realize then that you have to be a grownup.
Is moops a word?
health benefits = HUGE! write off for employer
people are oriented to the differences and only tild stories by liars who want to stand a five points and rob everyone who comes by legally
I would very much like a sammich right now.
Uncle NTodd
Peanut butter and jelly is always very pleasant.
many issues and interest groups, each of whom can be manipulated by Republicans and insurance companies to feel shorted.
it seems like there's a good counterargument to any such tactic, though. one for each group. i do believe everyone would ultimately benefit, and that those benefits can be well-explained. it's just a matter of actually bothering to explain things thoroughly to people, i think.
Maybe! There's this little girl shar-pei who needs a new home - she's
being fostered now, but depending on Arthur's attitude and a couple
other things, we maybe will have her. Angel Josefina GWPDA, we hope.
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GWPDA, Arthur & Angel |
01.12.08 - 12:15 pm | #
That sounds very wonderful. I hope it all works out
The group rate is the group of the whole. This is what makes the ultimate difference.
GWPDA
As I said, I think forcing the insurers to conform to this standard should be one of the first steps in phasing them ut.
Nope. Moons or moors.
prostitutes and their johns
Some of us with a certain given name kinda wish society would use one of the many suitable alternative names for prostitutes' clients, toilets, and people who have been jilted.
it only becomes a problem when the intent of the "corporation" is to go belly up from the onset and afford the directors ... CEO ... a big leaving bonus ...(read: corporate fraud with intent to rob)
Zap,
It' weird, facing up to losing parent. When my mom died, I was really shattered for a long time. You sort of realize then that you have to be a grownup.
What she said. Good vibes, bro.
Peanut butter and jelly is always very pleasant.
I want ham'n'cheese with spicey mustard and sliced tomato. Slightly warmed.
My Dad's getting a lung removed on Tuesday.
I've never had to face the prospective mortality of a parent, so it's kind of freaking me out.
Zap Rowsdower | Homepage | 01.12.08 - 12:04 pm |
(((((((((hugs)))))))))))
When my dad had his open heart in 1982 (when I was 16 and he 53) I stayed awake all night, and then mom gave me something so I'd sleep through the time of surgery. Only way I was able to cope with at that time.
zap.
sorry to hear that. do the bestby him now, and that will be a comfort later.
My prayers for a good outcome next week.
and you wondered why the big push is to "not educate" our growingly interested population about our civics
maintain customer
Prosciutto, fresh mozzarella, roasted eggplant, tomato, and arugula with balsamic vinaigrette on a seeded Semifreddi's baguette for me, please.
blerb,
You are right, of course. Just a sore spot with me. I have a seething hatred for: Republicans, Insurance Companies, Drug Companies, and Democrats who like any of the above.
Oh, and speaking of jilted, Sinfonian got bad news (live and online) last night, while we were giving him advice (probably unwanted) on his love life. Let's try to be extra considerate for a while.
I will preview in the future, even if haloscum is acting up. I apologize for a big chunk of bolded slanties. I cannot and will not blame Steve Simels.
jawbone,
No need to apologize for your "bolded slanties". I love to read your comments here and on other blogs.
I hope that you're feeling much better!!
bye for now
Dear John:
I'm leaving you to become a prostitute. Remember, you're not the only John in the world.
Adios,
Dana
I worry about one of my folks dying, I won't be able to get there.
A friend's father died (in Toronto) on the day of a premiere. She sang anyway, and felt pressured to stay and do the second performance before she flew home. Of course she missed the funeral then.
I will make you bread, but you will have to forgive me, I don't like sammiches. Sorry.
I want ham'n'cheese with spicey mustard and sliced tomato. Slightly warmed.
Uncle NTodd |
Can I place an order, too?
I'd like roast beef on a baguette with romaine, kalamatas, red peppers & balsamic.
{{{{{Zap Y Familia}}}}}
Nap time,
Later.
Peace. I swear it's not too late.
, but the transition here and now involves many issues and interest groups, each of whom can be manipulated by Republicans and insurance companies to feel shorted.
noblejoanie
I wonder how many people know that the Canadian single payer system went into full effect only in 1966.... The Saskatchewan program proved a success and the federal government of Lester B. Pearson, pressured by the New Democratic Party (NDP) who held the balance of power, introduced the Medical Care Act in 1966 that extended the HIDS Act cost-sharing to allow each province to establish a universal health care plan. It also set up the Medicare system. In 1984, the Canada Health Act was passed, which prohibited user fees and extra billing by doctors. In 1999, the prime minister and most premiers reaffirmed in the Social Union Framework Agreement that they are committed to health care that has "comprehensiveness, universality, portability, public administration and accessibility."[8]
The point being that the United States faces no particularly significant challenges in transitioning to a single payer system in some form, that have not been specifically faced and modelled to the north. What it took was specific Federal and Provincial determination - not private party involvement. Co-operation is all very well and good - but universal healthcare is not something that Blue Cross or Aetna can be expected to do anything at all with except resist. Thus, co-operation is going to consist of edict - and there's not one damned thing wrong with that.
Zap, praying for a good outcome for your father. Hang in there.
Well, they've given Dad five years to see if teh cancer will come back. If it does, that'll be, obviously, not a good sign.
But, for some reason, he has strong lungs (or one strong lung, after Tuesday). I think that my Mom is upset that I'm not showing more emotion about the situation, but I tend to internalize stuff like this more, for better or worse (mostly worse).
Well, I think the good news about this whole thing is that nationalized healthcare looks like it is really going to happen now, and this Iraq debacle may actually get people to buy into the proposition that we can either run the world poorly or run our own country well, but not both.
The other day I posted this little piece of information but I will do so again, just 'cause. When my wife visited her relatives (with her mother) in Sweden a few years ago one of the main ones that they wanted to visit was her mother's aunt. Ellsie was 94 years-old and still lived in an apartment by herself. She was in decent health but the government provided her with: meal service twice day, laundry service twice a week, a house cleaning service, twice a week, and in home medical care several times a week - FREE of charge.
Now. What country is the shining city on the fucking hill?
DWD - 60 Minute Man | Homepage | 01.12.08 - 12:07 pm
I did my study abroad through MSU, Finland and Sweden in 1988. What a difference in the government and the people's attitude toward helping one's fellow human.
Sweden isn't perfect, but I really, really want to go back.
Zap,
I have too much to say about the subject to try to say too little. I know what you are going through and many of us have already walked that path. It is NEVER easy. Best wishes. I mean that.
Prosciutto, fresh mozzarella, roasted eggplant, tomato, and arugula with balsamic vinaigrette on a seeded Semifreddi's baguette for me, please.
blerb, born-again stoner | 01.12.08 - 12:21 pm |
Oh my, blerb. looks like we're sandwich partners. I almost typed prosciutto, but didn't want the salt unless I can haz beer!
Dear John:
I'm leaving you to become a prostitute. Remember, you're not the only John in the world.
Adios,
Dana
Lime Rickey |
01.12.08 - 12:23 pm | #
Those of us with a certain first name would appreciate it not being used in letters to persons with another first name. Thanks!
We need ideas; and a place to find good, cheap bricks for our retaining wall.
Zap Rowsdower
Have you looked at the Reuse Center? Not sure if they get brickwork.
For what it's worth, there used to be a tubist with one of the big orchestras (Chicago?) who had one lung.
Thus, co-operation is going to consist of edict - and there's not one damned thing wrong with that.
Darn right. I think that's what Edwards means in saying you don't negotiate with these people.
Well, now that this morning's arborcidal excitement is overwith, I'm off to the lab to check up on the arthropods and possibly disrupt the otherwise placid Saturday afternoon of my graduate students (if they are unfortunate to be in lab today).
I'll be back for the football banter this evening...
.looks like we're sandwich partners
It's a helluva sammitch. Yummy on so many levels.
puppethead,
We love the Reuse Center; but they're so hit and miss.
Made myself a salmon, tomato, red onion, cream cheese bagel for brunch.
I think that my Mom is upset that I'm not showing more emotion about the situation, but I tend to internalize stuff like this more, for better or worse (mostly worse).
Zap Rowsdower
This is probably an annoying earthy-crunchy psycho-babble book to most folks, but I really appreciated the insight into triangles in relationships presented in the book, Dance of Intimacy.
Best to you and your family.
when you got the population emmulating ...Or despising) Lindsy Lohann, they are more likely to seek out cool assed blusey music and not even feel a part of a process that effects their existence
hip hip hurray for for Sony and too bad for a parent that can't seem to get through on any channel or wavelength
therealhellkitty
Your first name is John?
new thread--
.Thus, co-operation is going to consist of edict - and there's not one damned thing wrong with that.
Absolutely. I was certainly not expecting that the insurance companies would go quietly into that good night, only saying that they would have to be shrunk before being safely drownable.
suitable alternative names for prostitutes' clients, toilets, and people who have been jilted.
Might I suggest Toby as a replacement?
Made myself a salmon, tomato, red onion, cream cheese bagel for brunch.
Shut the fuck up.
And it doesn't count without capers.
therealhellkitty
Your first name is John?
Lime Rickey |
01.12.08 - 12:28 pm | #
no.
and if they wreck their health that's always better for people like Frist who can add the growing number of dependents in an unnecessary american health morass
.Made myself a salmon, tomato, red onion, cream cheese bagel for brunch.
trifecta
That's easily in my top ten sammitches too.
no capers. I am a fucking peasant.
no.
therealhellkitty
Dana Perino?!? Here?
Mmmm, for lunch I'm havin' a big ol' bowl of leftover hoppin' fred.
Feel better now, gromit?
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Now the Timmeh group is trashing Bill Clinton, calling him "whiney" and "petulant," also lying about what Obama actually said in his criticism of Obama's '94 statement about the Iraq War--out of context, said Bobo, a master of doing the same.
Bobo now saying Bush WH thinks Hillary Clinton is better to take over the country! Is killing with "kindness"?
Might I suggest Toby as a replacement?
sidhra
Hey! I just had to go out and rescue the pitbull next door, named Toby. He'd gotten out of his yard again and was looking for company....
stupid owls
stupid owls!
Carbonated beverage, anyone?
raise a glass, we'll drink a toast to the little man who sells you pills along the pier
Scaifetards being Scaifetards
My take on Christopher: There is a scene in " I',Claudius" where during the reign of the first official Roman Emperor nutcase Caligula, where a pandering Roman Senator said the ill-fated lines,"he would gladly die for him",which John Hurt, having a jolly old time as Caligula,called him on it. By that evening. The fact that Tom DeLay-Ken Blackwell, Ann Coulter and that Smermconish thang,RW organization heads appear to spout "humorous" cocktail party bon mots, while he HA! alongs, shows that he is more for entertainment than information-only Lil Michelle Malkin was put to the wall aggressively which is probably what he wanted to do anyway. A pandering courtier,loyal to his class,a tinge of regret on what he could have been.
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