I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Here I am
Spinoza's gonna be pissed
Going for 3
Rounding home
When Haloscan is working it's like taking candy from a baby
Five, do I hear five?
And here comes six.
Me thrid.
Coming into record territory with seven.
No, me second.
Sorry Jennifer you are seven.
"Without expressing any opinion about Ron Paul"
Heaven forfend!
FIRD!
I was out doing the vigil thing. Only about 15 people showed up. Would be nice if some of them were under fifty.
Voldemort is the love child of Dumbledore and McGonagall.
You have to be whacko to vote against giving Rosa Parks a medal.
I was out doing the vigil thing
Thank you!
QL,
That might be a record.
Wow, Fucker Carlson is really, I mean really a douchebag.
Goddamn, people, be careful when posting mindless phrases in a sarcastic manner. With the current craziness, you need to announce it first.
I guess Fred is against giving the troops adequate time between deployments. That's what the dems wanted and the publicans filibustered.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi | 07.21.07 - 3:24 pm | #
The fact that substantial numbers of our elite media and political industrial complexes are members of this group of Wackos does not render the term inappropriate, it simply serves to remind us of just how fucked up our elites are and just how large a problem we face.
Preach it brother Atrios.
I think this one of many reasons there was so much initial resistance to blogs, the inability to recognize how thoroughly they had lost their moral compass.
Our elites worship stupidity.
Jeez, thanks for the owl howl, folks.
MP, You're our Pat Tillman. Us, trigger happy? Whaddya mean?
To make up for it, we'll take you quail hunting.
Fred's level of stupidity by definition HAS to be on purpose. Otherwise he'd be dead the first time he looked up at the rain and drowned.
I start to wonder if the lack of pushback on what pundits said led to them seeing pushback...
Ron Paul has a lot of wackos (if you've ever been a Bircher, you're certifiable) in his camp, and to be simultanously anti-DEA and anti-Abortion is to miss a major point in a willfully stupid way.
But Atrios is quite correct that the "Wackos" are definitely those who thought that the war of aggression against Iraq would be "a cakewalk".
yep... there are tons of "wackos" out there, many of them publishing their views in major media outlets, even after they've been proven "wacko" beyond a shadow of a doubt...
http://takeitpersonally.blogspot.com/
Here I am
ql-was in NY | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 3:13 pm | #
You rocked me like a hurricane.
Reposting:
Just this week, that asshole let it be known to Congress that he would veto a measure easily passed by both chambers that would just keep up with the cost of living of an existing federal program that provides medical care to impoverished US children.
The fucker is not just some towel-snapping frat wiseguy. He is purposefully evil.
MP
They also cut a diagnostic internet link between Iraqi doctors and American doctors. It was a small (in cost) program that everybody says was effective. The state dept. still brags about it, but the money is gone.
Fred's level of stupidity by definition HAS to be on purpose.
It's amazing the degree of willful obtuseness our elites are willing to show, all to remain good pals with Karl Rove.
Their like a pack of trained dogs, doing silly tricks for Rove's scraps.
They also cut a diagnostic internet link between Iraqi doctors and American doctors. It was a small (in cost) program that everybody says was effective. The state dept. still brags about it, but the money is gone.
They needed the money to hire a couple of Chris Benoit style blockhead thugs as bodyguards for a maladministration flunkie in Kirkuk.
When Haloscan is working it's like taking candy from a baby
ql-was in NY | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 3:15 pm | #
You've been on fire with this thing lately....
Not only is Paul anti-abortion...he's an ob-gyn who is anti-abortion. He should know better.
You've been on fire with this thing lately....
steve simels
You lit it!
This hour on the big Dave™© Blog telethon, our friends at ABC have provided us with a sneak preview of one of their upcoming fall shows.
It's sure to be a big hit - so check it out!
MP:
Sorry I called you a troll downstairs.
I wasn't paying attention...missed the irony.
We don't call him Atrios for nothin'.
BTW, Paul is not a nice man.
A VERY ODD APPALAICHAN fat cretin women just knocked and came to my door
I SHALL HENCEFORTH not open the door for strangerz ...period
ps Baz was going ape-shit
Good Lord!
Asked about the John Birch Society Society by the author, Paul responds, "Is that BAD? I have a lot of friends in the John Birch Society. They're generally well-educated and they understand the Constitution. I don't know how many positions they would have that I don't agree with."
I think the Quilt Lady must cheat or something.
Fred's level of stupidity by definition HAS to be on purpose.
However big a shot he is, he is not functionally different from the most stereotypical used car salesman who knows damn well the car he's pushing on you is a piece of shit that could kill you but doesn't give a fuck so long as it's after he has your money in his pocket. IOW, a leading candidate for Inhumanitarian of the Year.
BTW, Steverino, in case you missed it below... that "Goodman Beaver" collection is out of print. But I'm sure if you haunt some your local used bookstores - preferably, the ones that aren't that concerned about "collectibles" - I'm sure one'll turn up at a reasonable price. I just saw one on eBay for about ten bucks.
My only problem with that book (aside from the absence of the classic "Goodman Goes PLAYBOY" story, which wasn't the publisher's fault) is they blew each panel up to a full page - thus ruining Kurtzman's original layout.
Still, a great read!
I SHALL HENCEFORTH not open the door for strangerz ...period
sittenpretty,creamsickle | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 3:38 pm | #
And don't talk to strangers with candy.
Just saying...
Who is Ron Paul?
And don't talk to strangers with candy.
I want to be Amy Sedaris' imaginary boyfriend.
Whatever you think of Ron Paul, he's got a great website.
Fucking work is really interfering with blog surfing.
Who is Ron Paul?
He's the 21st century Lyndon Larouche.
"I SHALL HENCEFORTH not open the door for strangerz ...period"
--sittenpretty,
You have to remember to balance the beauty of the area with the craziness. You're learning fast.
Power elites sanely and moderately contemplate acts which may lead to the deaths of thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions even, and then order those acts to occur.
Wackos include not just people who believe things which apparently are utterly impossible and illogical, but anyone who doesn't worship the power elites who would happily end the world.
A scant two decades or so ago, a sitting President easily convinced the power elites and their worshippers that a tiny, impoverished, scarcely populated nations named Nicaragua, El Salvador, Angola, Mozambique, and Afghanistan posed grave threats to our national security.
So we organized warlords, death squads, fundamentalists, drug dealers, murderers, and cranks to spread death and destruction upon civilians in all of these nations.
Wackos thought that was wrong.
The centrist and moderate worshippers of the power elites thought it was right, but that the President acted too happy about the bloodletting.
I SHALL HENCEFORTH...
BTW, did you know your homepage link doesn't work?
SHALL HENCEFORTH not open the door for strangerz ...period
sittenprett
Just why are there again? Do you have job prospects?
...
I want to be Amy Sedaris' imaginary boyfriend.
JeffCO | 07.21.07 - 3:43 pm | #
I love David Sedaris's story of her on the subway in facial-bruise makeup.
Just got my copy of Harry Potter. I read the last five pages first. I had to.
"...I read the last five pages first. I had to."
--Hecate,
Hmm, since haloscan ate me just now, I'll repeat --
Getting ready to take the bus into Gomorrah on the Hudson, where as is my weekend wont I'll be quaffing elitist chardonnay blah blah blah blah.
I hope to talk to you all again later this evening, but be nice to me because I plan to be sloshed.
Don't tell Ann!!!!
I SHALL HENCEFORTH not open the door for strangerz ...period
sittenpretty,creamsickle | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 3:38 pm | #
Oh, I kicked that habit a long, long time ago. I became a certified hermit in my 20s, often not opening the door for friends if they weren't expected.
Just got my copy of Harry Potter. I read the last five pages first.
That's pretty much the way Mickey Spillane wrote his books, you know...
I love David Sedaris's story of her on the subway in facial-bruise makeup.
rorschach, infogit
I love her getting off the subway and calling to him, "Good luck beating that rape charge!"
Speaking of wackos, I just got threatened on imdb.com:
Trust me, you wanted guys like me, who think like me, white middle class Christians, on your side, on American's side, but when you shoved too much, too fast down our throats we said screw it, this isn't my country any more and I owe it NOTHING! Not my taxes, not my allegiance NOTHING! It would be funny, if it wasn't so sad, how women like you have supported all these causes over the years which move the U.S. toward second, and in some places, almost third world status. Women have it rough in the third world, you should have put more thought into long-term social policy
(snip)
As I said, you had better bring it. Because people are finally waking up to exactly what you just said about deciding what direction the country takes. We aren't going to sit back and play by the nice-nice rules anymore, when the next 9/11 happens, I'm not shedding a tear for this garbage country and its occupied government which oppresses me and those who think like me.
Ron Paul is the star of all the New World Order conspiracy movies like Aaron Russo's "America: Freedom to Fascism."
He's taking this as an issue, forcing them to vote with the president for political reasons. [...]
Turns out, Harry Reid has magical powers and can make Republicans vote with Bush even when they don't want to. One wonders why, if that's the case, he doesn't use his magic powers and make them vote with the Democrats, but power works in mysterious ways.
when the next 9/11 happens, I'm not shedding a tear for this garbage country and its occupied government which oppresses me and those who think like me.
Ummmm . . . huh?
Just got my copy of Harry Potter. I read the last five pages first. I had to.
Well.
I won't be talking to YOU until I finish my copy. Without reading the end first.
I love her getting off the subway and calling to him, "Good luck beating that rape charge!"
V for Virginia | 07.21.07 - 3:52 pm | #
Yeah, that one cracks me up.
But then, when I was 13 or 14, I would occasionally, in the grocery store, sometimes yell "No I will not kiss you for a dollar!" near random people, and then run away.
So I guess we're kindred spirits.
...and this...
And honestly screw you. I already know what you will say, and I know the truth. Actually we know the truth, as millions of us are waking up each day and saying, we aren't going to take this anymore. You want to battle for the dominance of this culture, my culture, you had better be prepared to bring it!
Good times.
Not sure what to make of this popping up on Yahoo News (via Time):
Restoring the Draft: No Panacea
Even as there's talk inside the Pentagon of extending the troop surge in Iraq well into 2008, the U.S. military remains in a vise, crushed between the demands of wars in Iraq and Afghanistan that have made recruiting more difficult. Right now, there are only two real ways to extend or even increase the surge: call up more reservists - always tough to do in an election year - or extend active-duty combat tours from the current morale-wrecking 15 months to an even more painful 18 months. But Marine General Peter Pace, outgoing chairman of the Joint Chiefs, reassured GIs in Afghanistan this week that 18-month combat tours are not, as has been rumored, in their future. "An 18-month tour has zero, zero, none, nada, squat, nothing, no validity, OK?" he said. "I want to make sure you got that."
So then what about the third, most controversial option - is it time to reinstitute the draft? That option has a certain appeal as the Army fell short of its active-duty recruiting goal for June by about 15%. It is the second consecutive month the service's enlistment effort has slipped as public discontent grows over the war in Iraq.
Bringing back mandatory service has been the refrain of many who want to put the brakes on the Iraq war; if every young man is suddenly a potential grunt on his way to Baghdad, the thinking goes, the war would end rather quickly. It's also an argument made by those who are uneasy that the burden of this war is being unfairly shouldered by the 1.4-million-strong U.S. military and no one else. But a new report from the Congressional Budget Office this week makes clear that resuming the draft would be no panacea.
The report, requested by Rep. John Murtha, D-Penn., chairman of the defense subcommittee of the House Appropriations Committee, says that drafting people could make it easier for the Army to reach its 2012 goal of 547,000 soldiers. It might also save some money if Congress opted to pay draftees less than volunteers. But the downside, the report claims, would be a less effective fighting force, thanks to a sudden influx of draftees who would remain in uniform for much shorter spells than today's all-volunteer soldiers.
Allie, that quote was unsettling to read--frightening. Is there any context you can give?
Allie,
In my opinion, that man hasn't gotten any in a long, long time.
when the next 9/11 happens, I'm not shedding a tear for this garbage country and its occupied government which oppresses me and those who think like me.
You should never shed tears over anyone who is needlessly killed or maimed.
Wait...
Other than getting children to read, the HP books are a cultural phenom that cuts across generations and allows for spirited conversation. Not a bad thing to have contributed to the world Ms. Rowlings.
Say, did they find Bush's head this morning?
Been busy reading Potter to the kiddies...
One wonders why, if that's the case, he doesn't use his magic powers and make them vote with the Democrats, but power works in mysterious ways.
Obviously, he borrowed Ron Weasley's broken wand from HP and the Chamber of Secrets.
But the downside, the report claims, would be a less effective fighting force, thanks to a sudden influx of draftees who would remain in uniform for much shorter spells than today's all-volunteer soldiers. - Moe Szyslak
As oppsed to the droves of Captains and senior sargents that are now leaving after their thrid or four tour.
Brilliant analysis.
I SHALL HENCEFORTH not open the door for strangerz ...period
sittenpretty,creamsickle | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 3:38 pm | #
Oh, I kicked that habit a long, long time ago. I became a certified hermit in my 20s, often not opening the door for friends if they weren't expected.
rorschach, infogit
A friend of mine used to answer the door naked. He was surprised at the number religious folks that were still willing to come in and talk to him.
OT, the book that was the genesis of microlending is Mohammad Yunus' personal experiences in his book, Banker to the Poor.
To experience for yourself the subtle happiness that comes naturally from helping to lift another person out of grinding, predatory poverty, please visit:
http://www.kiva.org.
Thank you.
Allie,
In my opinion, that man hasn't gotten any in a long, long time.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Hard to imagine why, really.
Allie - my feeling about bullies is that they will blame their abusive behavior on their targets no matter what. There's not much value for anyone in arguing with them, beyond pointing out that real men do what is right because it is right. Scared little boys blame women for their problems and vow revenge. No doubt at all which you're dealing with.
Other than getting children to read, the HP books are a cultural phenom that cuts across generations and allows for spirited conversation. Not a bad thing to have contributed to the world Ms. Rowlings.
ql-was in NY | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 3:57 pm | #
But it introduces innocent children to the evil Satanic powers of witchcraft!
But the downside, the report claims, would be a less effective fighting force, thanks to a sudden influx of draftees who would remain in uniform for much shorter spells than today's all-volunteer soldiers
The rates of desertion and soldiers being AWOL actually goes down with draftees. The reason being, they have lower expectations to begin with.
allie -
How do I to the place?
when the next 9/11 happens, I'm not shedding a tear for this garbage country and its occupied government which oppresses me and those who think like me.
Guaranteed this guy is a neo-nazi. He doesn't say who is "occupying" the government, but I'm sure he thinks it's teh evil Zionists.
Allie, that quote was unsettling to read--frightening. Is there any context you can give?
mer
In my opinion, that man hasn't gotten any in a long, long time.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
I guess you could call this quote his autobiography...
In my opinion, that man hasn't gotten any in a long, long time.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator I am doing nothing more than trying to protect my self-interests from a hostile force. As a white, Christian, heterosexual, family-oriented, domestic-tranquility motivated, male, daily I'm faced with discrimination never-before seen in America. Now there are bills pending in Congress which would make it a "hate crime" for a Christian minister to criticize the homosexual life style. Do you think a Christian thought that one up? Are you that stupid? Did a group of Christians, who are still the majority in this country wake up one day and say, "You know what, we should pass a law making us all into hate criminals and throw ourselves into jail!" Some one is obviously behind this change in culture, things like this don't "just happen".
And, I have no proof, but I believe he has a really tiny wee-wee.
"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence."
Oops, sorry Hecate to lump you in with the weirdness.
when the next 9/11 happens, I'm not shedding a tear for this garbage country and its occupied government which oppresses me and those who think like me.
Is he a member of the angry whacko left? /snark
How do I to the place?
How do I get to the IMDB thread?
To me, I hear them say "wackos" and know that they mean "hippies" (DFH, really) but they are savvy enough to know that the word "hippy", like "groovy", sounds ridiculous... and they think "wacko" does the trick. I think it works like many of the dog whistle words do...unfortunately.
So I guess we're kindred spirits. rorschach
It's such a fine line between performance art and emotional disturbance.
Say, did they find Bush's head this morning?
Five polyps. Now we know what's become of Condi and Karen and Harriet and Rummy and Gonzo.
From ror's "satanist" link:
Many say it gets children reading books who never would do so. I give you this tid-bit to ponder on. If your child did not like to take medicine and you had a chocolate drink with the medicine, plus arsenic in it, would you give it to them? You would if you did not know it was in there and what arsenic was. It is the same scenario with fantasy especially when it is laced with the poison of witchcraft.
Brilliant analogy!
It's such a fine line between performance art and emotional disturbance.
JeffCO | 07.21.07 - 4:03 pm | #
Hey!
Um... thanks?
Good Golly Miss Molly! I am going to steal that joke and send it to my sisters!
Guaranteed this guy is a neo-nazi. He doesn't say who is "occupying" the government, but I'm sure he thinks it's teh evil Zionists.
The Kenosha Kid
Definitely. Your standard-issue wingnut thinks the DFHs on the left are the back-stabbers.
I'm sure he thinks it's teh evil Zionists.
You people are everywhere!
my feeling about bullies is that they will blame their abusive behavior on their targets no matter what. There's not much value for anyone in arguing with them, beyond pointing out that real men do what is right because it is right. Scared little boys blame women for their problems and vow revenge. No doubt at all which you're dealing with.
JeffCO
Yes, but it's nice to make them go public with their impotent threats and weird beliefs. Other people read those threads.
How do I to the place?
billy b - get your wings
Why, are you challenging me to a duel, too?
Molly - how's your brain today?
http://www.kiva.org.
I interviewed those folks a while back, let's see, for this article. Like everything else in the world, Microcredit is a mixed bag. Lots of good can be done, but there is some worrying context:
But some critics, including economic journalist Gina Neff and development expert Thomas Dichter, among others, say that the promise of microcredit is overstated. They note that the neo-Liberal establishment—the World Bank and right-wing think tanks, for example—have embraced microcredit, while more traditional development strategies like land redistribution and global debt forgiveness are ignored completely.
Then there's the split between non-gov orgs and for-profit biz, and more. Wish I could get into it, but I gotta go.
I'm faced with discrimination never-before seen in America WATB!
I am going to steal that joke and send it to my sisters!
With my compliments.
Here's what a good wife I am: I bought Deathly Hallows and gave it to Thers to read first.
the poison of witchcraft.
Reminds me of the 17th century.
Good times. Good times.
Why, are you challenging me to a duel, too? Allie
Well, there's no point in challenging you to a solo. Unless I can watch.
How do I get to the IMDB thread?
billy b - get your wings
Are you going to slap him around? You should be nice to the special amongst us.
JeffCO,
Sore, but not as sore as I feared.
You people are everywhere!
Speaking of which, you have to give Simels a proper smackdown for talking trash about David Bowie.
Here's what a good wife I am: I bought Deathly Hallows and gave it to Thers to read first.
Molly Ivors, da boom king
The definition of love.
Hecate,
How does HP play in the Wiccan community?
you have to give Simels a proper smackdown for talking trash about David Bowie.
Me? You do it.
Let me preface by "I am personally pro choice...but to the poster who said...
Not only is Paul anti-abortion...he's an ob-gyn who is anti-abortion. He should know better.
He said that during his training he saw a fetus removed from the womb and thrown into a bucket, breathing and crying. If that didn't affect him, he would be as much a monster as the neocons.
IN any event, while I am pro-choice, I think it should be decided on a state-by-state level. At least then I wouldn't have to worry so much every time a new judge got appointed.
simels mistakenly thinks nothing's gonna touch him in his golden years.
I'm faced with discrimination never-before seen in America
I've always said I don't want special treatment, just the same treatment afforded every son of a rich white male. Then the playing field will be leveled.
simels mistakenly thinks nothing's gonna touch him in his golden years.
Go-whoah. Wah wah wah.
The Five Polyps: A doowop group of Beltway Pundits. Hope to see them at the next Washington Press Club dinner.
Why, are you challenging me to a duel, too?
Why, hell no.
I want a piece of that dipshit that was messing with you.
He said that during his training he saw a fetus removed from the womb and thrown into a bucket, breathing and crying.
Man, I can't understand why he would lie about something like this, but I really don't believe it.
Wait -- was he trained in Europe in the early 1940s?
He said that during his training he saw a fetus removed from the womb and thrown into a bucket, breathing and crying.
Umm, that sounds like a load of crap to me.
How does HP play in the Wiccan community?
What goes on in the books has nothing, really, to do with Wicca, regardless of how the whackjobs try to say that the books lead kids to witchcraft. It seems to me more like ceremonial magic more than witchcraft. Lots of Wiccans, like, I guess lots of everybody else, enjoy the books as fantasy. Lots of Wiccans do seem to like fantasy, science fiction, etc. quite a bit.
I want a piece of that dipshit that was messing with you.
billy b - get your wings
Sweet, but unnecessary. It's a public forum and I think it's valuable to get his type to be open about what drives them.
And another astute critique of Harry Potter is this:
One of the easiest ways to know whether a fantasy book or film has real world magick in it is to just ask a simple question: “Can my child find information in a library or bookstore that will enable them to replicate what they are seeing in the film or the book?” If you go to The Chronicles of Narnia and the Lord of the Rings what you see in, story magic and imagination, it is not real. You can’t replicate it. But if you go to something like Harry Potter, you can find references to astrology, clairvoyance, and numerology. It takes seconds to go into a bookstore or library and get books on that and start investigating it, researching it, and doing it. In fact, that’s why real Wiccans, real witches, and real occultists are using the popularity of Harry Potter to lure kids toward real world occultism.
Sweet, but unnecessary. It's a public forum and I think it's valuable to get his type to be open about what drives them.
True. I just love a good scrap with the dimwits.
Man, I can't understand why he would lie about something like this, but I really don't believe it.
Nor I. But antiabortion propaganda is some grisly, pornographic stuff. When I was in grad school, me and a bunch of female friends from my department received antiabortion tapes in the mail. We never found out who sent them.
BTW, thanks for the donation!
I want a piece of that dipshit that was messing with you.
billy b - get your wings
Sweet, but unnecessary. It's a public forum and I think it's valuable to get his type to be open about what drives them.
Allie
It would be schweet to get him on the record about the Joos, though.
I am pro-choice, I think it should be decided on a state-by-state level. At least then I wouldn't have to worry so much every time a new judge got appointed.
Wrong. There's a reason that protecting the rights of minorities, including African Americans and women, happens at the federal level.
IN any event, while I am pro-choice, I think it should be decided on a state-by-state level. At least then I wouldn't have to worry so much every time a new judge got appointed.
That is utterly wrong.
Lots of Wiccans, like, I guess lots of everybody else, enjoy the books as fantasy. Lots of Wiccans do seem to like fantasy, science fiction, etc. quite a bit.
Fair enough.
He said that during his training he saw a fetus removed from the womb and thrown into a bucket, breathing and crying.
What a load of horse shit.
If that happened (and it didn't), he's an accessory to murder.
You keep talking like that, Tweety will never invite you on his show.
It would be schweet to get him on the record about the Joos, though.
V for Virginia
Oh, he is.
I owe Hecate a butterbeer!
But if you go to something like Harry Potter, you can find references to astrology, clairvoyance, and numerology. It takes seconds to go into a bookstore or library and get books on that and start investigating it, researching it, and doing it.
My patronus is shaped like a platypus. Dementors aren't scared of it at all.
IN any event, while I am pro-choice, I think it should be decided on a state-by-state level. At least then I wouldn't have to worry so much every time a new judge got appointed.
So poor women can caravan like Okies from state to state?
Not in my country. Not in my lifetime.
My patronus is shaped like a platypus. Dementors aren't scared of it at all.
Molly Ivors, da boom king | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 4:14 pm | #
Not even the poisonous claws?
It would be schweet to get him on the record about the Joos, though.
V for Virginia
Oh, he is.
Allie
Oh, I see. Unbelievable.
My patronus is shaped like a platypus
Thers has said many times here that's why he married you.
""[A] lot of Republicans who detest where the White House is are furious at Harry Reid.... [A] lot of Republicans would like to peel off from the president, but they feel that Harry Reid is making it impossible. He's taking this as an issue, forcing them to vote with the president for political reasons. [...]"
""Republican senators were anxious to move away from the White House, to move towards some sort of withdrawal. Now they're not talking that way. They're talking, 'We've got to stick with the president.' And why? Two words: Harry Reid.'""
Not even the poisonous claws?
It whacks the shit out of them with its tail. They never see it coming.
Restoring the Draft: No Panacea
Consider this:
I was drafted in '69 and served as a pointman/grunt in Vietnam for 14 months of a total 20, honorably discharged.
Now, 36 years later, when I lost my health insurance (co. changed providers, and I became a "pre-existing condition"), I finally approached the VA. Then recently they began asking for detailed financial information, the so-called "means test," and on the basis of what I sent them, they are now threatening to backcharge me and otherwise severely curtail my VA benefits.
Bottom line, looks to me like the VA is trying to back out of its responsibility to its own, for the sake of its bottom line.
Avoid those fuckers like the cancer they've become.
So poor women can caravan like Okies from state to state?
Not in my country. Not in my lifetime.
Zap Rowsdower, Homebody | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 4:15 pm | #
Sadly, this is the case, de facto, in many states.
Alabama, for example, has exactly one abortion clinic. Many other states are in similar situations.
The anti-choicers are winning in a lot of ways, even though Roe v Wade stands.
Republican senators were anxious to move away from the White House, to move towards some sort of withdrawal. Now they're not talking that way. They're talking, 'We've got to stick with the president.' And why? Two words: Harry Reid.
Well, that confirms what we've known all along:
Republican Senators are pussies.
We've got to stick with the president.' And why? Two words: Harry Reid.'""
BoBo at the Bank
Good things the grownups are in charge. Because it would be pretty pathetic for a bunch of 7-year-olds to refuse to clean up their rooms just to prove that mom can't make them.
It whacks the shit out of them with its tail. They never see it coming.
Molly Ivors, da boom king | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 4:16 pm | #
My first wife is your patronus?
If you kids want to go at some point, you can find all the fun on the Sicko discussion board at imdb.com. You have to register, but it really is informative.
Just don't say I sent you or anything. I wouldn't want anyone accusing me of calling in reinforcements.
While Atrios won't express an opinion on Ron Paul, I will.
He Fucking Sucks!
Why?
Because he's a Libertarian, and as we all know, Libertarians Fucking Suck!
Thank you for your kind attention!
Good. Hang the fucking war right around their fucking necks.
Starting a sentence with "I am personally pro-choice but" is right up there with "Some of my best friends are..." as an attempted inoculation against the bigotry to follow.
While Atrios won't express an opinion on Ron Paul, I will.
He Fucking Sucks!
Why?
Because he's a Libertarian, and as we all know, Libertarians Fucking Suck!
Thank you for your kind attention!
Chris Tucker
The guy is anti-choice - that is enough for me to know.
About a week ago, a fellow Eschatonian laid out all the other reasons that Ron Paul is a whackjob.
The anti-choicers are winning in a lot of ways, even though Roe v Wade stands.
rorschach
the clinic my daughter works at has only one provider who they fly in three times a week under armed guards.
Flooding on the Great Plains ...
of Britain?
the clinic my daughter works at has only one provider who they fly in three times a week under armed guards.
Jesus fucking christ, what a country.
as an attempted inoculation against the bigotry to follow.
JeffCO
I've been a Democrat all my life, but . . .
I'm a liberal, too, but . . .
Restoring the Draft: No Panacea
Nope - because it will be like Viet Nam all over again.
The spawn of the rich and connected will sit safe at home on their fat, pampered asses while the children of "ordinary folks" go over there and come home either in caskets or maimed physically and/or psychologically.
Republican senators were anxious to move away from the White House, to move towards some sort of withdrawal.
No they weren't. They're just trying to figure out a way to cover their asses while, at the same time, kissing Tipsy McStagger's.
Guess what, motherfuckers? You can't. So here's your choice: dump the drunk or get booted out on your ass in '08.
Personally, I hope you stick with Drunken Sociopath.
the clinic my daughter works at has only one provider who they fly in three times a week under armed guards.
There are zero abortion providers in South Dakota, so a doctor will have to fly from here in MN a couple times a week.
I've been a Democrat all my life, but . . .
I'm a liberal, too, but . . .
As a lifelong Democrat . . . .
Since Yahoo did away with their message boards, it looks like all the mouthbreathers went to imdb.
The spawn of the rich and connected will sit safe at home on their fat, pampered asses while the children of "ordinary folks" go over there and come home either in caskets or maimed physically and/or psychologically.
Terry C, Wingers R Whiners | 07.21.07 - 4:23 pm | #
This is different from today how?
nutroot aholes wouldn't know a US national security interest if it bit them on their lard-asses.*
*see Carter, Jimmy, etc.
The spawn of the rich and connected will sit safe at home on their fat, pampered asses while the children of "ordinary folks" go over there and come home either in caskets or maimed physically and/or psychologically.
Terry C, Wingers R Whiners
This is different from today how?
rorschach, infogit
It IS no different.
The guy is anti-choice - that is enough for me to know.
About a week ago, a fellow Eschatonian laid out all the other reasons that Ron Paul is a whackjob.
Terry C, Wingers R Whiners
How can a libertarian be anti-choice? All the actual libertarians I know are pro-choice and pro-same sex marriage because you don't legalize something by enacting laws, you make something illegal. Roe v Wade didn't make abortion legal, it made keeping women from seeking it illegal.
Does that make sense?
I used to live down the street from the clinic in Boulder. It used to get picketed a lot. Not so much lately I think, but the doctor there regularly gets death threats as one of the few left who will perform late-term abortions when necessary.
The only way a draft makes sense is for it to allow NO deferments for any reason. If you're in the age group, your ass is gonna saddle up and ride.
Leninsky
And SPEAKING of moutbreathers....
There are zero abortion providers in South Dakota, so a doctor will have to fly from here in MN a couple times a week.
Zap Rowsdower, Homebody | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 4:24 pm | #
As I understand it, one of the American Indian tribes there is asserting their sovereign right to perform abortions, despite SD restrictions.
How can a libertarian be anti-choice? All the actual libertarians I know are pro-choice and pro-same sex marriage because you don't legalize something by enacting laws, you make something illegal. Roe v Wade didn't make abortion legal, it made keeping women from seeking it illegal.
Does that make sense?
Allie |
Ron Paul IS anti-choice.
nutroot aholes wouldn't know a US national security interest if it bit them on their lard-asses.
And self-anointed jackasses who think it's their job to come to blogs and say that really need to move out of Mom's basement.
The only way a draft makes sense is for it to allow NO deferments for any reason. If you're in the age group, your ass is gonna saddle up and ride.
V for Virginia
Here's why there will never be a draft. They would have to draft women too. Aint gonna happen.
nutroot aholes wouldn't know a US national security interest if it bit them on their lard-asses.
So you were against the Bush administration deliberately outing a covert CIA operative for political purposes?
Good for you!
Ron Paul needs a few mg. more.
Hello, bats. Time for some blog promotion. I have Fred Hiatt ruminations here.
And right below it is a link to some Birmingham abortion clinic stuff.
nutroot aholes wouldn't know a US national security interest if it bit them on their lard-asses.*
*see Carter, Jimmy, etc.
Jimmy Carter recognized the danger to our (US and national is rather redundant) security interests posed by dependence on foreign oil and took steps to begin weaning us off of foreign oil (see, e.g., PURPA). Sadly, he was followed by Reagan, who preferred to call the collapsing Soviet empire names and by Bush I who, like his idiot son, was in thrall to the oil companies. Hence, when Saudia Arabia attacked up on 9/11, we weren't able to go bomb Saudia Arabia back into the stoneage. Too bad America didn't listen to Jimmy Carter.
Now, leave. I'm squishing your head.
Leninsky, meet my good friend killfile. Say g'bye, L.
As I understand it, one of the American Indian tribes there is asserting their sovereign right to perform abortions, despite SD restrictions.
Yeah, that was when the ban was in place.
They also wanted to exercise their sovereignty by growing industrial hemp.
DEA put the quash on that...
Ain't no smackdown like a Hecate smackdown.
As I understand it, one of the American Indian tribes there is asserting their sovereign right to perform abortions, despite SD restrictions.
rorschach, infogit | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 4:26 pm | #
I rescind that comment.
It was once true, but is no longer.
Eek. I got the boldies.
"This is different from today how?"
--rorschach,
If you had children 21, 27 and 28 years old and weren't among the wealthy, you might worry. We don't have connections, so my kids would probably be drafted. Not that I'd do everything in my power to keep them from having to join, but I don't look forward to it if it happens.
Eek. I got the boldies.
Do you treat that with boric acid or just soap?
dave:
funny as hell: nutroot aholes suddenly all aflutter about the sanctity of the CIA; would you zits be as exercised about the "outing" of, say, Howard Hunt?
hilarious
But the downside, the report claims, would be a less effective fighting force, thanks to a sudden influx of draftees who would remain in uniform for much shorter spells than today's all-volunteer soldiers.
Moe Szyslak
That assumes that the draftees would only be required to serve for a limited time. And while we are bringing back the draft for the cannon fodder why not also also change the rules so that those officers and senior ncos who are leaving can not leave.
"Leninsky, meet my good friend killfile. Say g'bye, L"
Warms the cockles of my black little heart to read that!
Here's why there will never be a draft. They would have to draft women too. Aint gonna happen.
ql-was in NY
But it would spread out the sacrifice such that I have the think the war would end pretty quickly. Then, maybe, the volunteers would start signing up again (although maybe not after what's been done to them in the last 4 years).
Can someone tell me how to do the killfile?
Too bad America didn't listen to Jimmy Carter.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
A good bit of it was too busy jerking off to the "feel good" bullshit being fed to it by Ronnie RayGun.
If you had children 21, 27 and 28 years old and weren't among the wealthy, you might worry. We don't have connections, so my kids would probably be drafted. Not that I'd do everything in my power to keep them from having to join, but I don't look forward to it if it happens.
mer | 07.21.07 - 4:30 pm | #
I made my point badly. Sorry.
I'm a bit out of sorts and my writing is unclear for it.
*see Carter, Jimmy, etc.
Leninsky
yeah, that's why Ollie North committed treason to get Reagan elected. besides being a fucking idiot, y8ou're a traitor. fuck off.
I was in NH a few weeks ago (my home state), and doing substantial driving around mid-state and in the mountains, and in all that driving I saw like 8-10 Ron Paul signs up in yards. Interesting because I saw exactly NO signs for any other candidate anywhere. I don't know what that means... just seems worth mentioning.
Can someone tell me how to do the killfile?
Molly Ivors, da boom king
Yes! You have to use Firefox, though.
"Nearly 1 in 6 roll-call votes in the Senate this year have been cloture votes. If this pace of blocking legislation continues, this 110th Congress will be on track to roughly triple the previous record number of cloture votes — 58 each in the two Congresses from 1999-2002, according to the Senate Historical Office."
The trolls haven't heard that Chimpy doesn't give a fuck about the CIA.
Leninsky, welcome to killfile hell.
Population: YOU!
HAW! HAW! HAW!
If you had children 21, 27 and 28 years old and weren't among the wealthy, you might worry. We don't have connections, so my kids would probably be drafted. Not that I'd do everything in my power to keep them from having to join, but I don't look forward to it if it happens.
mer
I have kids 26 and 23. That's the point I was trying to make. You expressed it better than I did.
Yes! You have to use Firefox, though.
I do.
I think it's hilarious that we had a flat-out, no doubt about it Christian President who was a nuclear engineer, brought at least some peace to the Middle East, won a Nobel Prize, and has spent his post-Presidency putting his religious beliefs into action helping the poorest among our society (instead of cashing in with obscene speaking fees and shady financial arrangements with terrorist-supporting countries like, say Reagan and Bush Sr), and *he* is the guy the fake Xian, fake patriotic, real asshole authoritarian fringers hate hate HATE with every fiber of their pathetic little beings.
My theory is they revile him for putting the lie to the sad self-delusions.
"But it would spread out the sacrifice such that I have the think the war would end pretty quickly"
I wouldn't risk it. These folks plan to have war forever. Never would I agree to a draft again because they would cheat anyway. It would still be the same ones.
Can someone tell me how to do the killfile?
Molly Ivors, da boom king | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 4:33 pm | #
It's just a jump to the left.
and then a step to the righ-igh-igh-igh-ight.
My theory is they revile him for putting the lie to the sad self-delusions.
His fundamental decency gives them hives.
My theory is they revile him for putting the lie to the sad self-delusions.
That sounds about right. I think Dr. Jung would agree.
India elected a woman president. I am just saying.
I saw like 8-10 Ron Paul signs up in yards. Interesting because I saw exactly NO signs for any other candidate anywhere.
Here in the western San Fernando Valley, I have seen one home-made Ron Paul sign and couldn't figure out if it was pro, con, or confused -- the hand-lettered sign just said "Who is Ron Paul?" I have seen no signs at all for any other candidate, R or D.
nutroot aholes wouldn't know a US national security interest if it bit them on their lard-asses.*
Well, well. It's Manica.
Carter ain't got a lard ass, numbie.
A nashunal shacurety interest?
What a goober.
rorschach, it's okay. Sometimes I want the draft to be reinstated because I think the war would have ended yesterday. Then, I think of my kids and I don't want a draft.
A nation rejoices as The Leader walks again
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...085-5-
515h.html
I wouldn't risk it. These folks plan to have war forever. Never would I agree to a draft again because they would cheat anyway. It would still be the same ones.
BillyBob
You can bet that Bush's and Cheney's spawn wouldn't be among the ranks of those used for cannon fodder.
Molly, you NEED to use Firefox as your browser.
Then, Google 'greasemonkey'.
Install Greasemonkey and grab the killfile script that is, if I am not mistaken, on the Greasemonkey site.
A few mouseclicks later, you have a haloscan killfile, all ready to devour the bullshit that Toby, fy, et al, etc, try to infest our little corner of the IntarTubes with.
Ah, that's better.
Hang on, Molly, I'm finding you the links you'll need.
Molly,
Download Greasemonkey from Mozilla tools, then use this script.
"Who is Ron Paul?"
Who is John Galt?
One of my commenters quoted this from Orwell and it is very apt to the discussion here:
From Orwell's 1984:
"Even the humblest Party member is expected to be competent, industrious, and even intelligent within narrow limits, but it is also necessary that he should be a credulous and ignorant fanatic whose prevailing moods are fear, hatred, adulation and orgiastic triumph. In other words it is necessary that he should have the mentality appropriate to a state of war. It does not matter whether the war is actually happening, and, since no decisive victory is possible, it does not matter whether the war is going well or badly. All that is needed is that a state of war should exist. "
...
" It is precisely in the Inner Party that war hysteria and hatred of the enemy are strongest. In his capacity as an administrator, it is often necessary for a member of the Inner Party to know that this or that item of war news is untruthful, and he may often be aware that the entire war is spurious and is either not happening or is being waged for reasons quite other than the declared ones; but such knowledge easily is neutralized by the technique of doublethink."
"Who is Ron Paul?"
Ron Jeremy and Les Paul's love child?
"Democratic leaders have signaled they will likely opt for incremental measures, such as a bill (HR 2929) sponsored by Barbara Lee, D-Calif., that would effectively extend a ban on permanent U.S. bases in Iraq."
"That legislation would do little or nothing to force the president’s hand. But it would buy time to build support for another redeployment proposal by Defense Appropriations Subcommittee Chairman John P. Murtha, D-Pa., to be offered on the floor as an amendment to the fiscal 2008 Defense appropriations bill."
The "fetus in a bucket" during his training is pure bullshit. His training happened long before abortion became legal.
My theory is they revile him for putting the lie to the sad self-delusions.
JeffCO
Well, hey - you're talking about people who've elevated a senile B-movie actor to sainthood.
"Who is Ron Paul?"
Who is John Galt?
Interesting. I did not think of that connection.
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Sweet! Thanks, guys!
I'm off.
Oh, I guess it's all at one place.
Go to
www.greasespot.net and d/l greasemonkey.
Then go to the site again and use "find scripts" to search for "killfile."
d/l that and you're good to go!
echidne,
Damn. It's as if he had a glass ball that let him look into the future. Or, as if KKkkarl read that book and considered it a training manual.
Bye, ql!
Damn, I'm bloobing around trying to remember what I'd done, and I should have known you guys would just KNOW.
sheesh.
"A nation rejoices as The Leader walks again"
The king of glory comes,
a nation rejoices.
Open the gates before him,
lift up your voices.
Who is the king of glory?
How shall we call him?
He is Emmanuel, the promised of ages.
Or, as if KKkkarl read that book and considered it a training manual.
My students are all taking Machiavelli quite seriously.
These are the people despots love.
Sorry, I just have to share one more quote and then I'll stop since I'm starting to feel all cyberstalkery...
The same person discussing Black Snake Moan
I agree, thank you for speaking out. But we have start doing more than speaking out. We speak, they laugh, count their money and nothing changes. Something needs to be done. I don't know what it's going to take, a second civil war, another revolution, another Timothy McVeigh, another 9/11. This society is sick and needs to take it's medicine.
Now I need a shower.
Molly Ivors, I hope you tell them how Machiavelli ended his days.
Hi, (Checks underarms - I did shower a while ago. I don't think I smell. Why is everyone leaving?)
That sounds about right. I think Dr. Jung would agree.
IIRC, Jung also said that people who become overly invested in maintaining unrealistic personae do so at the expense of their true development, and when the persona inevitably fails, there is not much inside on which they can rely. By that theory, these little fringers have a very bleak future indeed, which would explain why they rage against the dying of the right.
My theory is they revile him for putting the lie to the sad self-delusions.
JeffCO
It's proof positive that their movement has nothing whatsoever to do with Christianity, as if we needed any.
"Something needs to be done. I don't know what it's going to take, a second civil war, another revolution, another Timothy McVeigh, another 9/11. This society is sick and needs to take it's medicine."
While he sits home safe and sounds and eats his Cheetohs?
Gee, Allie, I wonder if the Department of Fatherland Sekuritaat is tracking those violent, dangerous people down? The ones calling for violent overthrow of the government?
I'll say it again; any Democrat still subscribing to or reading the Washington Post is either brain dead, a masochist, or a mo-ron, possibly all three. Why would sane people subject themselves to that shit?
If I want flagalation, i'll read the Mooney Times.
While he sits home safe and sounds and eats his Cheetohs?
Terry C, Wingers R Whiners
No, this is the type that will blow up a federal building with a child-care center in it. Manly-men.
"Something needs to be done. I don't know what it's going to take, a second civil war, another revolution, another Timothy McVeigh, another 9/11. This society is sick and needs to take it's medicine."
I wonder if this is something that always existed at the same level or if the ability to have sites where people congregate makes this worse? I mean, if you spout this to people in the meatspace they are quite likely to talk you into seeing a doctor. But not your friends of the same faith.
WaPo: Pinky Reid is a complete idiot...
....no wonder he's a 13% approval...
No, this is the type that will blow up a federal building with a child-care center in it. Manly-men.
Or beats his wife. Because she makes him. "See what you made me do?"
I wonder if the Department of Fatherland Sekuritaat is tracking those violent, dangerous people down? The ones calling for violent overthrow of the government?
V for Virginia
I was wondering the same thing. But I expect they're too busy closing down Quaker anti-war prayer meetings or something.
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I'm beginning to enjoy these almost as much as res' blah, blah, blah responses.
IIRC, Jung also said that people who become overly invested in maintaining unrealistic personae do so at the expense of their true development, and when the persona inevitably fails, there is not much inside on which they can rely. By that theory, these little fringers have a very bleak future indeed, which would explain why they rage against the dying of the right.
JeffCO
Donald Trump? It can't be easy marrying models to keep up appearances.
I'm beginning to enjoy these almost as much as res' blah, blah, blah responses.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
It's pretty much fun, but I miss those blah blah blahs.
No, this is the type that will blow up a federal building with a child-care center in it. Manly-men.
Quinn and Rose, vile right wing talk show hosts that originate here in Pittsburgh, said the day after the Oklahoma City bombing that the children at the Murrah Federal Building wouldn't have been killed if their mothers hadn't been working and taking a job away from a man.
Okay, I'm off. Besos to all (except the population of Killfiletown, natch.)
It actually is amusing to make them just vanish as if they were never there. They are talking, but I can't see what they they are saying - and I LIKE it that way.
Did I mention that G/Son can now tell you what cows, cats, snakes, seals, and ghosts say? And, as per one of his books, can show you how a hippopotamous "goes berserk"? He also says Mama, Dada, the all-important Nanna, and Up.
I am telling you, this grandma gig is one of the absolute very best things that has ever happened to me.
the children at the Murrah Federal Building wouldn't have been killed if their mothers hadn't been working and taking a job away from a man.
Gomez
Wow. Batshit. Reminds me of Weiner the Savage Moron.
Now appearing on the Dave™© Blog fundraising telethon, a little something for the kids with their crazy new wave haircuts: Lene Lovich!
Hey girl, I bet you
There's someone out to get you.
You'll find him anywhere
On a bus, in a bar, in a grocery store.
He'll say "Excuse me, haven't I seen you somewhere before?"
Whack, Whack, Whack, they call him the Whacko.
Whack, Whack, Whack, you know what he's after.
....no wonder he's a 13% approval...
That's Cheney, fuckknuckle.
Another killfile candidate.
Wonder if there is a Wanker heaven; if its anything like hillbilly heaven?
Oh what a wonderful site.
BTW, Echidne, hope you got my email.
If not... thanx!
the children at the Murrah Federal Building wouldn't have been killed if their mothers hadn't been working and taking a job away from a man.
Gomez
Wow. Batshit. Reminds me of Weiner the Savage Moron.
V for Virginia | 07.21.07 - 4:55 pm | #
Sounds like a wife beater
BTW, My mother in law came up to me at the family reunion and asked me why Barack Obama wanted to teach sex education in kindergarten. I actually did lose it momentarily as my response was, "God damn it, Ann, turn off Fox News once and for all, please. What he said was they he thought that teaching that inappropriate touching was wrong should be taught. Do you think that is wrong?."
Of course she did not. But dammit: I am tired of trying to fix the stupid.
BTW, Echidne, hope you got my email.
If not... thanx!
I did. Just passed on what came to me, actually.
Hecate -- I'm so glad you two have each other.
I'm going to search for an outrageously good salmon recipe to prepare for my ever-lovin'-hubby, who's spent the whole day building custom storm shutters in case mother nature has a fit later this month.
TTYL, batsies!
No, this is the type that will blow up a federal building with a child-care center in it. Manly-men.
Quinn and Rose, vile right wing talk show hosts that originate here in Pittsburgh, said the day after the Oklahoma City bombing that the children at the Murrah Federal Building wouldn't have been killed if their mothers hadn't been working and taking a job away from a man.
Gomez
I lived in Philly at the same and some asshole wrote a letter to the local paper saying just that.
And the letters in response ripping him a new one.....
L8r bats. Armageddon Calls.
Sorry - lived in Philly AT THAT TIME.
What is with these wingers and their obsession with women staying at home and being breeding machines?
The Nazis used to push that same bullshit.
Could someone give me the killfile link?
Welcome to killfile hell!
You know, it's amazing how much of a pleasure that killfile thingy is to have.
It's like being able to mute the noisy neighbor's stereo at will.
To use the killfile function you have use Firefox as your browser. If you do not, you may get it here:
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/
Once that is installed you need to have an add-on program called GREASEMONKEY.
That is available here:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/...refox/addon/
748
Once you have installed this program you have search the Greasemonkey page for KILLFILE. WHen you find it, install it and your are done.
Hope this helps.
What is with these wingers and their obsession with women staying at home and being breeding machines?
The Nazis used to push that same bullshit.
The elite need more busboys and bedpan swabbers and don't trust the tricksy Messicans who currently fill those gigs.
Also we're running dangerously low on cannon fodder.
I actually did lose it momentarily as my response was, "God damn it, Ann, turn off Fox News once and for all, please. What he said was they he thought that teaching that inappropriate touching was wrong should be taught. Do you think that is wrong?."
Actually, I think that's the sort of response you should ALWAYS give.
Thank you, DWD.
What is with these wingers and their obsession with women staying at home and being breeding machines?
It's kind of a cheese Danish. You want to eat it and you don't want it to compete for jobs with you.
Gomez,
I was thinking ahead the other night: I saved that as a file. I just loaded in my Word Perfect and cut and pasted: no problem. In other words, you are welcome 
Here they come again
with their heavy shoes
the men who know the all the answers
we thought we'd got rid of them
but they're back with a new story
but it's not much different than the last
they know who the bad guys are
all we have to do is shoot them all
then everything will be super
and the sun will shine for ever and ever
they know it all for certain, so certain
and you are so bad to try to stop them
just shut up and let them fix everything
even if they need to break the law
it's for your own good
.
DWD,
Someday this country will get over its shadow issues w/ sex and sexuality. It will be an amazing thing. Meanwhile, like all shadow issues, it can control us and make us do teh stupid shit, even when we can't figure out why we're doing it. Cuz that's what shadows do! They're trying to get our attention! Can't telll a winger that; their shadows show up and cover their ears.
make sure you don't killfile your own
ongoing Nutroot Circle-Jerk/topic 13: Cheney as War Criminal.
Next topic: "Bush As Hitler/Guantanamo As Auschwitz."
The hilarity never ends....
BAGHDAD - Iraq's prime minister urged parliament on Saturday to cancel or shorten its summer vacation to pass laws Washington considers crucial to Iraq's stability and the debate on how long U.S. forces should remain.
LMAO - Which laws are those, shitheads?
Bush As Hitler/Guantanamo As Auschwitz
Yeah.
And?
What is with these wingers and their obsession with women staying at home and being breeding machines?
It's kind of a cheese Danish. You want to eat it and you don't want it to compete for jobs with you.
I hate to differ with a Goddess, but they don't want to eat us. I'm reminded of Germaine Greer's story about the man who expects oral sex, but "refusing to return either the favor or the logic" asserts that if you give women oral sex, it will turn them into lesbians.
I was about 13 when I read that and I just sat there for hours amazed that someone could write that well.
LMAO - Which laws are those, shitheads?
The ones that give Snarley Dick all their oil.
the logic" asserts that if you give women oral sex, it will turn them into lesbians.
Sounds like the same "logic" that dictates that raping a lesbian will "straighten her out."
BAGHDAD - Iraq's prime minister urged parliament on Saturday to cancel or shorten its summer vacation to pass laws Washington considers crucial to Iraq's stability and the debate on how long U.S. forces should remain.
LMAO - Which laws are those, shitheads?
Unlimited gun ownership and a flat tax.
Beyond that, our GOP overlords assure us that no other laws are needed.
I hate to differ with a Goddess, but they don't want to eat us.
I didn't mean the comparison literally, but more in the sense that these people see women as objects or tools for certain things, and they also think that those areas (sex, children, housekeeping) are where the tools should stay.
The ones that give Snarley Dick all their oil.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 07.21.07 - 5:09 pm |
Egg Zackly...
these people see women as objects or tools for certain things, and they also think that those areas (sex, children, housekeeping) are where the tools should stay.
I agree completely.
Hee Hee Leninsky is toast.
Echidne,
I always kind of thought that our society should have a lot more freedom for people of both sexes. We seem to have set up ridiculous standards that everyone has to adhere to and then wonder that so many people are unhappy/crazy/despondent/religious whackjobs/et al.
I just have never understood why we are all expected to all be exactly the same: I think that is the premise that loses me. Honestly, I have been working all of my life and I am ready to do something different now. I am not sure if I will be allowed to do this or not: but I know that I am ready. For some people the prospect of not having someone demand they do something is scary.
One of my sadnesses is that Mrs DWD really would have liked to stay home with the boys when they were young and we just were not in a position to do it. I don't think she wanted this because she felt subservient or inadequate but rather that she really enjoyed being mommy. Isn't that a good thing as well?
I dunno all of the answers but in our society if you are not being much to do it, society does not value it. Conversely if you are being paid a great deal to do it, then you are valuable. So if you wondering about your own worth in society's eyes: check your pay stub.
(But I disagree strongly with this as well - oh well, onward and upward. Being a thinking person sometimes means that you simply do not know the answers)
Did I mention that Halo scan sucks?
I hate to differ with a Goddess, but they don't want to eat us. I'm reminded of Germaine Greer's story about the man who expects oral sex, but "refusing to return either the favor or the logic" asserts that if you give women oral sex, it will turn them into lesbians.
Well sure, if you're doing it wrong.
"laws Washington considers crucial to Iraq's stability"
Because everything the Iraqi government does must meet with the approval of the Amerikan Empire.
Democrat Barack Obama is telling union activists he would walk a picket line as president if organized labor helps elect him in 2008.
Bet that will make trolls shit their shorts.
Unlimited gun ownership and a flat tax.
Don't forget no abortions.
Shrub and his hornets nest.
http://thumbsnap.com/v/pYArgkrB.gif
"One of my sadnesses is that Mrs DWD really would have liked to stay home with the boys when they were young and we just were not in a position to do it. I don't think she wanted this because she felt subservient or inadequate but rather that she really enjoyed being mommy. Isn't that a good thing as well?"
If that's a woman's choice (and a family can afford that), fine.
But these assholes who sit there and decree that women MUST not work outside the home....fuck them.
DWD, what you are talking about is another aspect of the way the society works today. I was referring to the people who want to dictate to women how to live their lives.
many people haven't had the chance to decide that women should stay home. necessity forces them to be radicals and let the women work at whatever they'll be allowed to work at
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Don't forget no abortions.
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I almost owed you a cola...
Unlimited gun ownership and a flat tax.
Iraq under Saddam had the former. I don't know about the latter.
Earmarking the war machine
""This week, Kennedy reacted to Bush's progress report on Iraq by saying in a statement, "It's wrong to keep pouring more and more lives into the endless black hole of a failed policy. It's time to say 'enough.' ""
"When Kennedy and the Democrats say the same thing about defense earmarks, arms proliferation, and lives lost in black holes outside of Iraq, we will know the swamp is truly being drained."
I feel all-powerful. Die trolls!!!
people see women as objects or tools for certain things - echidne
A 9/16ths blonde is prefect for changing sparkplugs. Redheads are too soft.
asserts that if you give women oral sex, it will turn them into lesbians.
if women sleep with too many men who are perfect assholes, it'll turn them into lesbians
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Heh! I got trifecta a link on the new local bloggie thang!
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Comment by Leninsky blocked
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
One of the subtle pleasures of the killfile is imagining the frustration of the killfiled trolls.
Sucks to be you, trolls!
these people see women as objects or tools for certain things, and they also think that those areas (sex, children, housekeeping) are where the tools should stay.
I agree completely.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
The modern GOP's kirke-kinder-kuchen movement.
Dang.
Squirrel Nut Zippers are playing in town tonight.
Guess I'll have to settle for sitting in the Hubert H. Humphrey Metrodome to watch the Twinks battle the mighty Anaheim Los Angeles Angels of Disney California Golden State Disney.
Oh that's right: Iraqi already has a fucking flat tax.
Courtesy of guess who?
WaPo, 11/03:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
ac...anguage=printer
"The flat tax, long a dream of economic conservatives, is finally getting its day -- not in the United States, but in Iraq.
"It took L. Paul Bremer, the U.S. administrator in Baghdad, no more than a stroke of the pen Sept. 15 to accomplish what eluded the likes of publisher Steve Forbes, Reps. Jack Kemp (R-N.Y.) and Richard K. Armey (R-Tex.), and Sen. Phil Gramm (R-Tex.) over the course of a decade and two presidential campaigns.
So they've got that going for them...
One of my sadnesses is that Mrs DWD really would have liked to stay home with the boys when they were young and we just were not in a position to do it. I don't think she wanted this because she felt subservient or inadequate but rather that she really enjoyed being mommy. Isn't that a good thing as well?
I stayed at home with my daughters even though it meant that we had to resort to eating MREs my then-husband would bring home. I chose. I support women who choose to work or stay home. Family decision. But I think it helps society if there is assistance balancing work and home for women and men.
"BAGHDAD, Iraq — This much is agreed upon: at least six Iraqis died overnight Saturday when American attack helicopters pounded a cluster of homes in a dusty, nondescript neighborhood on the northern outskirts of Baghdad.
But the story of why those homes were targeted and who was killed depends on the storyteller.
The U.S. military said the dead were insurgents and the homes in the Husseiniya district probably served as weapons depots; troops observed seven or more secondary explosions after the air assault. By the military's tally, six fighters were killed and five wounded.
Iraqi residents told a different version: the dead came from two Shiite Muslim families who lived in an area controlled by the powerful Mahdi Army militia. The bodies pulled from the rubble, locals say, were ordinary parents killed with their children in the middle of the night. Locals counted 11 corpses - two men, two women, and seven children. Another 10 were injured. Some Iraqi authorities put the death toll as high as 18."
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homep...tory/
18249.html
I think I'll settle for hanging out here, since I really don't wanna walk anywhere, tonight.
bo,
I would almost vote for Obama, just for that one remark. Hil, if you're around, you'd better one up him. Find an picket line and walk it now.
I stayed at home with my daughters even though it meant that we had to resort to eating MREs my then-husband would bring home. I chose. I support women who choose to work or stay home. Family decision. But I think it helps society if there is assistance balancing work and home for women and men.
Yes, some help would be great. Also, the decision to stay at home for a few years should not dead-end your career for ever more, and it does today, on average.
But I think it helps society if there is assistance balancing work and home for women and men.
Allie
That won't happen in Merka.
Smacks too much of "socialism." Anything that helps people and makes their lives better is "socialist" to the idiots we have in charge here.
When you get to the end of Harry Potter 7 - there is a special treat.
I think it helps society if there is assistance balancing work and home for women and men.
And, if we lived in a "culture of life," as do those secular humanists in, say, Sweden, there would be. They do have liberal abortion laws, there, though.
My brother stayed at home with his daughter until she went to school. He loved it, but is still paying the price in lower earnings. Yet we expect this from women, on the whole.
The modern GOP's kirke-kinder-kuchen movement.
Terry C, Wingers R Whiners
My imdb.com friend says that white women are selfishly not reproducing enough and female suffrage will cause the downfall of Western Civilization.
Okay, now I'll stop.
My imdb.com friend says that white women are selfishly not reproducing enough and female suffrage will cause the downfall of Western Civilization.
Okay, now I'll stop.
Allie
Hates women because none want anything to do with him.
"When you get to the end of Harry Potter 7 - there is a special treat."
What, the "LICK HERE! You may be one of the LUCKY ONE MILLION"?
i thot wimmin wur to opin them twist off beer caps with an also pik up th kwarters i drop!
When you get to the end of Harry Potter 7 - there is a special treat.
Gomez | 07.21.07 - 5:20 pm | #
An autographed picture of Randolph Mantooth ?
Gomez,
It was tres nice, n'est pas?
Sheetzes.
I howl, oooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwlllllllllll.
What, the "LICK HERE! You may be one of the LUCKY ONE MILLION"?
Chris Tucker
An epilogue that jumps to 19 years later.
I'd better get ready for the long, arduous ten minute drive over to Minneapolis.
Later!
Bush is confusing to conservtives, being as non-conservative as he is, radicals are looking for Barry Goldwater, if the Bush's radicals leave for Ron Paul and moderates leave the party altogether, than gee was does that leave the today's GOP.
As much as the GOP is playing to the far-right, but hyping Rudy and Mitt, it seems a bit odd that Ron's not getting NRO and Brooks support?
Its going to be interesting to see what the GOP loyalist to Bush (aka, Cheney) has done to bottom out the pool of voters.
Of course she did not. But dammit: I am tired of trying to fix the stupid.
DWD - White Haired Guy
Bring up the catholic church payout and ask her how many of those kids could have been saved by a little knowledge.
Also at the family reunion today I had a chance to visit with Mrs DWD's cousin who works in Washington. (One really does not ask what he does as it is extremely sensitive intelligence work. He is a PhD in Physics and a graduate of the Air Force Academy and has been in the Intelligence "Industry" for about twenty years. He IS the real thing.
What I did ask him was this general question, Do people you work with realize how fucking stupid they look to the rest of the country?
His answer an interesting one: He said the actual people preparing the intelligence are doing a pretty good job and are being honest with what they are presenting - then the bullshit starts flying. He went on and on and on about the politization of the Good information they were providing. I could tell he was disgusted and while he singled out the current administration, he did not dismiss anyone from his contempt. No. One.
But I think it helps society if there is assistance balancing work and home for women and men.
Not that long ago (6 months?) you used to be able to make the argument that there was such a large surplus of grain, that there was absolutely no reason to not have subsistence level food support for all.
But now our wastrel in chief, and his oil buddies, are burning food into fuel.
There are other energy answers, that I and others have mentioned here and many places, but they choose the worst possible use of it.
About Ron Paul
First, I'm a libertarian, but my views are more pragmatic than Pauls'. I support his candidacy primarily as a means of sending a message to the GOP. He won't win their nomination, and then in my view the best thing he could do would be to endorse the Democrat, provided s/he makes firm commitments to getting out of Iraq and repudiating all this Executive-cum-monarch lawlessness, torture, warrantless wiretapping & etc.
Also, there are some positions held by the John Birch Society that are not crazy. Some. Yes, they are conspiracy nutz, but they also have a good history of opposing heavy-handed federal govt intrusions on personal liberty, such as the so-called drug "war."
And about the Rosa parks medal issue: Paul also opposed awarding such medals to JPII or Ronald Regan; he is opposed to them in principle regardless of the recipient, because he believes Congress lacks constitutional warrant to pay for them out of the public purse. That may be a bit weird and extreme, but it has nothing to do with any animus he holds toward Rosa Parks.
Finally, Paul would be "pro-choice" on abortion, as he is on drugs, except that he is sincerely persuaded that the entity in a pregnant woman's uterus is an Other vested with rights. There is no such "other' arguably harmed when John and Mary toke weed in their apt on Friday nite. I'm necessarily defending all of Paul's views, but I do think they should be described accurately.
Cheney has a pacemaker made of stone. I love how they talk about freedom when officials there can't even speak without fear of retribution
Just to remind everybody: Saddam *did* have Weapons of Mass Destruction: the helicopters and "agricultural chemicals" used in the genocidal slaughter of Kurds, and the war-criminal attacks on front-line Iranian troops during the Iraq-Iran war.
The helicopters and chemicals were supplied by Dick Cheney, at that time US Secretary of Defence, and his assistant Donald Rumsfeld.
"Chemical" Ali has been sentenced to hang for those crimes. Why are Cheney and Rumsfeld not yet in The Hague?
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