I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
dammit.
Messed up the time machine.
I meant that to go out an hour from now.
Sorry. Those sheets downstairs were still pretty fresh.
hey hey hat trick for me again
Nah mimi. I don't count. Home run.
You've got to be fucking kidding. Clean yourself up, man.
but Jay, I'm playing hockey
Thanks for the shout out, but I gotta blog or two also ya know.
http://ohnoespolitiks.blogspot.com/
ice hockey, of course not that damned gaiii field hockey
PikaCHU!
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hey JP, how's Sittin Pretty?
Sorry Butler. We play baseball here, not hockey.
And yes, they will have a big chit.
But the 50 state strategy was a huge reason that I didn't support Clinton.
Not only did she not support it, her people ridiculed it and fought against it.
Down ballot is crucial, but I also think it's important that we not cede any states to McCain. Make him spend dollars in every fucking state in the nation.
Don't cede a single vote.
Don't cede a single vote.
fourlegsgood, kitteh wrangler | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 3:10 pm | #
We might even kick a Texan bozo out of the Senate.
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Looking at MS-01 (a 28 point swing), They want to run away from Bush, but can't create any space between them. McCain is flipping as hard as he can, but he's still attached.
They are doomed, and some of them know it.
The deserting coward is their mascot, and they can't get rid of him. His fucking war, his fucking tax cuts, his useless fellating of the Bandit Hous of Saud, his casual disregard for human suffering in New Orleans, an AMERICAN city, etc, is the doom of the GOP.
They are fucked, and they can't find a way out of the nightmare. It certainly isn't the bone ignorant asswipe Huggy Bear.
nope, today we play hockey.
and tomorrow, Canada wins the World Hockey Championship.
yeeha!
We might even kick a Texan bozo out of the Senate.
That would rock.
Not only is Cornyn stupid, he's an arrogant, mean spirited asshole.
We play baseball here, not hockey.
Speak for yourself. 
Game's on bbl.
4lg, are you related to Cornyn?
In the Senate, getting 60 votes (not including HoJo) is crucial to making legislative progress. In my State, the execrable Gordon Smith's only ads have been negative AND he's painting himself as a "change." Not.
from below:
Of course, if you supported the candidate who was the object of Ms Cottle's loathing, you might feel differently. I'm just guessing.
Who was the object of her loathing? Any criticism of a losing campaign indicates loathing?
No wonder she lost.
U can haz Saturday kittehs too:
http://plush-life.blogspot.com/2...5/
requests.html
I asked last night whether I could link, and didn't see an answer 4lG. And you've not made any comment when I've flogged the blog at swampland.
So wasn't sure.
Easily fixed.
brb
pam pam ram pam ram, pam pam pam ram pam ram
singing the Hockey Night in Canada theme here
mimi what are you doing here? Seriously.
Obama bots are as dangerous as Bush sheep.
It scares me and this liberal will not vote for Obama under any circumstances. It's very sad our MSM have done nothing but drool over this guy and refuse to fully investigate the dirt in his closet.
trifecta,
meow/whick cracking!
that should be
meow/whip cracking!
I asked last night whether I could link, and didn't see an answer 4lG. And you've not made any comment when I've flogged the blog at swampland.
Oh, sorry, didn't see that, and I've been so busy I didn't realize you'd pimped us out at Swampland.
Many thanks!!
Link to me any time you want.
fourlegsgood, kitteh wrangler
that cat looks like he's about to spray the wall! I have 2 of my own and 4 strays I've taken in.. I'm quite familiar with the tail straight up near furniture or a wall!
BJ, thanks for your concern. Voting for Huggy Bear, eh?
It's very sad our MSM have done nothing but drool over this guy and refuse to fully investigate the dirt in his closet.
BJ | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 3:18 pm | #
Your touching concern is noted, hanx.
~
We might even kick a Texan bozo out of the Senate.
I resent being compared to John Fucking Cornyn.
/Bozo The Clown
Kay Bailey Hairdo is also a bozo.
he's an arrogant, mean spirited asshole.
IOW, Republican.
Remember, if it's not scooterlogical.com, it's crap!
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The election is going to be all over the map this year.
You're just not going to see the kind of endless 'campaign forums' that gathered 250 attention-seeking 'undecided' voters in Dayton or Columbus. That's a good thing, because if you really can't decide between McCain and Obama on issues like the war, the economy, healthcare etc, your opinion is frankly one that shouldn't carry any determinative political weight. As Gail Collins said way back, those sorts of voters need to get a grip.
Obama is making a fascinating gamble, and that's to look at the people who historically haven't voted in presidential elections. That's a big number, and turning just a small fraction of them into supporters and voters changes things in a big way.
It also means that we may end up with an election measured by weird, skewed polls, because the 'likely voter' model could be way way off this year. Since polls actually drive politics, especially on the cabloids, that could be a problem. It'd be good to know what the pollsters themselves think about it.
Kay Bailey Hairdo is also a bozo.
plantsman, less blue
The Senator from Stepford.
In my State, the execrable Gordon Smith's only ads have been negative AND he's painting himself as a "change." Not.
Yes, it's stupid on its face. "We need change, so reelect Gordon "I suck the cock of George Bush" Smith!
Fixing a typo, noting that it's kinda weird that "netroots" is singular. But it is.
As is grassroots, I betcha.
that cat looks like he's about to spray the wall! I have 2 of my own and 4 strays I've taken in.. I'm quite familiar with the tail straight up near furniture or a wall!
She's a girl, and she doesn't spray.
maine coons always run around with their tails up
ads have been negative AND he's painting himself as a "change."
This pushmi-pullyu quality is all over the place. They actually have the policy regime they want in place. So it's hard to run against it.
Happy Saturday everyone.
Down ticket energy is a good thing. New participants are a good thing.
But one has to really buy into the whole Obamachalda to think that the Democrats won't rue the day they allowed him to buy the party.
Another thing to remember about Cornyn. He was the texas AG during the whole Tulia mess, and all appeals to him to fucking DO SOMETHING went ignored.
I was more of HRC supporter, but Obama bitch slapping McCain/Bush was a thing of beauty. I feel much better now.
You're just not going to see the kind of endless 'campaign forums' that gathered 250 attention-seeking 'undecided' voters in Dayton or Columbus.
Don't worry about Columbus. There's not even a Ken Blackwell in place to steal it, this time.
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I'm also told, though I can't confirm, that Obama campaign has also subtly encouraged donors to not fund groups like VoteVets and Progressive Media. These groups fall under the 'same old Washington politics' which he wants to avoid, a partisan gunslinging contest he explicitly advocates against.
Not sure how I feel about this part of Stoller's post. Would like to know more. A little wary of all the fundraising going to one guy and/or his org.
Deepak Chopra says that more people die on Monday at 9:00 a.m. than at any other time...
But one has to really buy into the whole Obamachalda to think that the Democrats won't rue the day they allowed him to buy the party.
Why so?
In my State, the execrable Gordon Smith's only ads have been negative AND he's painting himself as a "change." Not.
Yes, it's stupid on its face. "We need change, so reelect Gordon "I suck the cock of George Bush" Smith!
It's retarded.
Who in their right mind thinks voters are gonna buy that the assholes who were in the driver's seat for the last 7 years are about change?
fuck off rethugs
Obama's bucks
Perhaps we could say "cash".
Afternoon, everyone!
they allowed him
There was no "allowed" about it. He won IA by attracting new voters and growing the party. I was talking to someone last night who'd looked at the numbers and said that if Obama hadn't expanded the electorate, Edwards would have won easily.
Note: I am not an Obama partisan.
Obama's bucks
Perhaps we could say "cash".
Maybe it's a special dependent clause, like Charlie's Angels or Hogan's Heroes.
Or it's like Disney Dollars.
Anyway, hi Hecate.
Who in their right mind thinks voters are gonna buy that the assholes who were in the driver's seat for the last 7 years are about change?
I agree and we need to keep pointing out that McCain's been a Senator since simels was a little boy. If he wanted to change things, what was he waiting for?
"funds" would work, too.
Not sure how I feel about this part of Stoller's post. Would like to know more. A little wary of all the fundraising going to one guy and/or his org.
For one thing it will be hard for us to bitch about THEIR 527s if our side is doing the same thing.
I think he's trying to hamstring Ari's group preemptively.
It will be a smart move if it works.
Messiah Obama loses to Hillary in WV by 41--
n-n-n-nutroots! op-p-p-p-pen your w-w-w-wallets, n-n-n-numbn-n-n-nuts!
There was no "allowed" about it. He won IA by attracting new voters and growing the party. I was talking to someone last night who'd looked at the numbers and said that if Obama hadn't expanded the electorate, Edwards would have won easily.
Interesting.
West Virginia has about 1/3 as many delegates as Indiana. Big Whoop.
Whoever winds up being the Dem candidate to face off with Smith in the fall only needs to get enough name recognition with a D behind his name and he'll win.
Smith thinks it's going to be Merkley, he's running anti-Merkley ads.
I suppose it's possible that Smith would rather face off with Novick than Merkley and so is boosting Novick, but frankly I don't think Smith is that clever, seeing as he's claiming to be the candidate of "change", which is so fucking hilarious as to make me wonder if Colbert isn't his campaign manager.
Or it's like Disney Dollars.
Or Bevo Bucks - you know, a meal plan.
I'm for an expanded electorate.
Smith cracks me up. I have gotten fundraising email letters from him claiming that the evil liberals have him as the number one target in the country so send him some money.
Or Bevo Bucks - you know, a meal plan.
Bevo bucks.
Now there's an inside joke.
Perhaps we could say "cash".
That particular reading never occurred to me. Alliteration, I guess, was what was going on.
I'm for an expanded electorate.
Me too.
iz a good thing
Now there's an inside joke.
laiming that the evil liberals have him as the number one target in the country so send him some money.
They all pretty much say that. You'd think that we evil liberals have as many top targets as al Queida has number threes.
gotten fundraising email letters from him claiming that the evil liberals have him as the number one target in the country
Collins is doing similar stuff. Seems wrong headed to me.
mcjoan does not think Smith can be beaten. But that conversation was before the Mississippi special election.
That Malkin post is pretty damn funny.
Doesn't she realize that she's depraved?
(Breathlessly) " Elect Me over those evil libruls or you'll ALL DIE!!!!"
Carnival ride collapses in California; 24 injured
ANGELS CAMP, Calif. (AP) — State investigators were trying to determine what caused a spinning carnival ride at a county fair to collapse and injure all 24 people aboard.
The carnival ride, called the Yo-Yo, collapsed shortly after 6 p.m. Friday at the Calaveras County Fair and Jumping Frog Jubilee, about 80 miles southeast of Sacramento.
The ride has metal arms, each with a seat at the end attached by a chain, that swing outward as the ride picks up speed. The arms rise and fall as they spin around a center pole, putting the seats horizontal to the ground.
The pole apparently collapsed, causing the arms to crash back toward the center, said Dennis Townsend, a chief in the Calaveras County unit of the California Department of Forestry and Fire Prevention.
The riders — mostly children — were hurt when their seats struck the ground or other parts of the machine, he said.
Smith KNOWS he's in trouble, and it has to do not with him, but with the party he's associated with.
He's been trying desperately to appear "independent" of the GOP ever since 2006.
This is why he's desperately trying to paint himself as an agent of change.
We do know Malkin can't jump.
fourlegsgood, kitteh wrangler | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 3:27 pm | #
Topaz is attempted physics by mind-melding with the cheese chase:
http://pets.webshots.com/photo/
2...096501088JzEEtU
(Breathlessly) " Elect Me over those evil libruls or you'll ALL DIE!!!!"
It's very old testament, is it?
And it's gonna fail.
Gonna go shop at Whole Foods.
Bye
Hecate,
You'll get a kick out of this.
Phyllis Schlafly gets honorary degree....many people turn their backs on her in protest...conservatives whine and howl with indignation per usual.
The Calaveras County Fair and Jumping Frog Jubilee opened Wednesday and is held each year in late May. It was inspired by a Mark Twain story, "The Celebrated Jumping Frog of Calaveras County."
The fairgrounds is located just outside the Gold Rush-era town of Angels Camp in the Sierra Nevada foothills. It bills itself as an "old-fashion county fair" with exhibits and a variety of entertainment.
Phyllis Schlafly gets honorary degree....many people turn their backs on her in protest...conservatives whine and howl with indignation per usual.
Schlafly is a Nazi cunt.
ice hockey, of course not that damned gaiii field hockey
My daughter used to play field hockey in HS, you fucking hockey puck.
Phyllis Schlafly gets honorary degree....many people turn their backs on her in protest...conservatives whine and howl with indignation per usual.
Their typical "victory through victimhood" has gotten them only so far. Now, with a new game, thanks to the Obama campaign, I hope the public sees the whining as just that....whining.
Buckeye,
Topaz looks a lot like Miss Thing! She does that "upside down kitty" thing, too.
Gonna go shop at Whole Foods.
There's nothing wrong with canned fruit cocktail.
Gonna go shop at Whole Foods.
Damned Metropolitan Market only got TWO fish from the Copper river, one king, one sockeye. King was entirely gone before I got there. At least I like sockeye too.
If he wanted to change things, what was he waiting for?
bingo!
Senator George W. McCain, who will turn 72 this August, has been in Congress for more than a quarter century.
Or in other words the 26 years he's spent on Capitol Hill is more than 1/3 of his entire life.
Corn Dogs and Dangerous Rides operated by Carnies! Let's Go!
Why so?
Well, first off, I need to be careful here. I don't mind Barack, but I'm not a breathless supporter. A little balance is in order.
That much control and money, as is implied, should worry anyone just on account of because.
This phenomenon has been manufactured. Let's not forget that.
Several years of Obama's past are rather hazy for one reason or another. But we know enough to say that he will manipulate and step on friendly toes when the need arises, Chicago style.
Despite his well polished personae, we are likely to see that evolve into something I dare say many are not now anticipating. This will include most especially Michelle. She should not be underestimated.
I'm not saying all is doom and gloom and nefarious. Just that concentrated power is coalescing around unknown intent and ability. Its wise to be apprised.
I was more of HRC supporter, but Obama bitch slapping McCain/Bush was a thing of beauty. I feel much better now.
Lumpenprolitariot | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 3:28 pm | #
He stuttered through the whole thing. I find him rather pathetic.
OT, abt Rachel Maddow hosting Countdown last night. I just sent an e-mail to MSNBC re how excellent she was.
In three minutes a reply came from office of Phil Griffin, Senior VP, News:
Thanks for ur thoughtfulcomments.
She is fantastic.... Got major plans for her.
Considering the LOL spelling and typo, this must have come from a real person! "Got major plans for her." Wow!
Oh, bullshit, Tavistock; all innuendo and no facts is crap.
Several years of Obama's past are rather hazy for one reason or another. But we know enough to say that he will manipulate and step on friendly toes when the need arises, Chicago style.
Oh, you mean he's a politician.
Concern noted.
Well, the only way this Hillary supporter will *not* vote for Obama is if he picks a Chuck Hagel type for a running mate. But I'm not too worried. I think that was something Tweety just pulled out of his ass.
Buckeye,
Topaz looks a lot like Miss Thing! She does that "upside down kitty" thing, too.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 3:41 pm
They're both 'blue' cats. I think Topaz is a Korat, though as she was a stray I'm not quite sure. I think her dad is wandering around, occasionaly eats the food I leave out.
Several years of Obama's past are rather hazy for one reason or another. But we know enough to say that he will manipulate and step on friendly toes when the need arises, Chicago style.
Despite his well polished personae, we are likely to see that evolve into something I dare say many are not now anticipating. This will include most especially Michelle. She should not be underestimated.
I'm not saying all is doom and gloom and nefarious. Just that concentrated power is coalescing around unknown intent and ability. Its wise to be apprised.
Your concern is noted.
Frankly, Obama has been good about admitting issues from his past or deflecting/disarmig whatever his rivals have thrown at them.
And trust me when I say this whatever skeletons Obama may have in his closet is nothing compared to McCain.
Or in other words the 26 years he's spent on Capitol Hill is more than 1/3 of his entire life.
The Old Man From Scene 24 | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 3:42 pm | #
Most all of it spent sucking at the corporate teat.
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My daughter used to play field hockey in HS, you fucking hockey puck.
billy b
Still my daughter's favorite game, though she no longer attends a school that plays it.
Your touching concern is noted, hanx.
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ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 3:20 pm | #
hanx back
"Run along! Shoo! Shoo!" she says, becoming upset, gesturing with her arms. "Go! Shoo! I'm not putting up with this, I'm just not! Why can't you people just leave me alone? Why can't you just go away?" "Phyllis," I tell her, "we are never going away."
I love it. What moron at the school thought it would be a good idea to give that horrible person an honorary degree?
I see the "lifelong Democrat" concern trolls are out in force today.
Y'all can go FORP.
I was more of HRC supporter, but Obama bitch slapping McCain/Bush was a thing of beauty. I feel much better now.
Lumpenprolitariot | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 3:28 pm | #
He stuttered through the whole thing. I find him rather pathetic.
BJ
Go and please the world.
Tavistock | 05.17.08 - 3:42 pm | #
Your concern is noted. Its also bullshit. The exact same claims could be made of anybody who has ever been a popular candidate for president.
Billy B,
I told you it was gaiii
Just that concentrated power is coalescing around unknown intent and ability. Its wise to be apprised.
Tavistock | 05.17.08 - 3:42 pm | #
Beware the dangerous negro...
This phenomenon has been manufactured. Let's not forget that.
If you mean manufactured by the candidate himself, OK.
It's called campaigning and it's central to a concept known as politics. You see, in order to win at politics, you have to get elected. In order to get elected, you have to campaign.
This phenomenon has been manufactured. Let's not forget that.
in what way? and by whom?
Schlafly is world-class hypocrite in a party filled with them. I guess she's got that to be proud of.
Damn, fizzy beverages all around. On me.
I told you it was gaiii
Christ, at least spell it correctly. You look like more of a knob than usual in your homophobic comments.
It's called campaigning and it's central to a concept known as politics. You see, in order to win at politics, you have to get elected. In order to get elected, you have to campaign.
Amazingly, you also have to campaign to get installed.
See deserter/shotgun shooter 2000 for example.
A little wary of all the fundraising going to one guy and/or his org.
No shit. But that's reality. And it's better than K-Street.
In many, many ways, this is what we've wished for--a candidate elected by citizen activism, funded by citizen dollars.
I honestly do not see how that wish could have been fulfilled without a charismatic leader.
There weren't enough deaniacs, and the technical infrastructure was less well in place.
What Obama has built is entirely new--and nobody else did it, and they all could have.
BHO was not in a Southeast Asian prisoner of war camp for many years, that's ManchurianCain.
News Flash - Teddy Kennedy's health condition is still better than Mary Jo Kopechne's, more at 11.
Still my daughter's favorite game, though she no longer attends a school that plays it.
Crazy game. Hardly what mowmow says about it.
I'd like to see the Buttle on the field getting smacked upside his gourd head.
"And trust me when I say this whatever skeletons Obama may have in his closet is nothing compared to McCain."
No doubt. Virtually anyone would be preferable.
In order to get elected, you have to campaign.
And the better campaigner you are, the more likely you are to get elected. Its amazing really.
Some one who can run a very effective campaign, might be able to do a good job organizing a transition team, who in turn might be able to put together an effective Administration etc.
There weren't enough deaniacs, and the technical infrastructure was less well in place.
Is there a BHO w/o Dean/Deaniacs?
Not being provocative. Seriously wondering what people think.
Sheesh, they're all about the forgiveness, aren't they?
BHO was not in a Southeast Asian prisoner of war camp for many years, that's ManchurianCain.
What drives me nuts about Huggy Bear is that he has personal experience of what torture is like, and how it's used to get the victim to say anything the torturer wants to hear, and yet he learned nothing from his own agonizing experience. Nothing.
This is why he's too fucking STUPID to be President.
I'm still alive and thousands of innocent people are dead. Film at 11(or not).
He stuttered through the whole thing. I find him rather pathetic.
BJ
He still sounded better Bush/McCain reading off a teleprompter.
Nothing against the prolific and energetic Jay Ackroyd, but didn't Atrios do this exact same post last week?
Still good news though.
News Flash - Teddy Kennedy's health condition is still better than Mary Jo Kopechne's, more at 11.
Senator Murder | 05.17.08 - 3:49
And Laura's boyfriend.
Think Timmeh will ask Huckabee about his repugnant ad-lib tomorrow on MTP?
News Flash - Teddy Kennedy's health condition is still better than Mary Jo Kopechne's, more at 11.
Not to mention over 4,000 US troops and close to a million Iraqis.
Mary Jo who? Don't you have to be over 50 to have any idea who that refers to?
Senator George W. McCain, who will turn 72 this August, has been in Congress for more than a quarter century.
Or in other words the 26 years he's spent on Capitol Hill is more than 1/3 of his entire life.
The government had to grow another teat to feed this guy.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
I think McCain knows, but went ahead and did voted for torture, anyway, because he thought that it would get him elected. You don't have to even have been tortured to figure out that torturing someone will make them say anything. He just caved to the Pukes who love torture for torture's effect on their penises the same way that he caved to the fundies.
I'm still alive and thousands of innocent people are dead. Film at 11(or not).
George W Hitler | 05.17.08 - 3:50 pm | #
Well, they volunteered!
/Wingnut
The government had to grow another teat to feed this guy.
You mean a new one to replace the one he'd been sucking at while in the Navy?
I watched "Fog of War" last night ... can you imagine the size of the "elitist" label they would have slapped on JFK if he were running today? Harvard educated with his family's money (not a scholarship), married to a "French" woman, Catholic, and that accent!
Probably one of the reasons he chose Johnson as his running mate.
Don't you have to be over 50 to have any idea who that refers to?
Not if you can read.
He stuttered through the whole thing. I find him rather pathetic.
As opposed to whom?
Just that concentrated power is coalescing around unknown intent and ability
true of almost any Presidential candidate. Being a Governor or Congressperson is not that much of a barometer for Presidentialitude.
He's against the GI Bill, fer Dawg's sake!
Considering the LOL spelling and typo
The time Steve Ballmer wrote back to me was similar.
Is there a BHO w/o Dean/Deaniacs?
Not being provocative. Seriously wondering what people think.
res ipsa loquitur | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 3:50 pm | #
No. I think he had a huge impact. But would he have gotten as far as he did without the 'net?
I think McCain knows, but went ahead and did voted for torture, anyway, because he thought that it would get him elected. You don't have to even have been tortured to figure out that torturing someone will make them say anything. He just caved to the Pukes who love torture for torture's effect on their penises the same way that he caved to the fundies.
Hecate, true, but the thing is, Huggy's ambition totally dominates him, he'd gladly sell off his integrity, his honor, his children, his wife, his mother to feed his ambition.
He's a pathetic wretch of a human being.
Topaz is attempted physics by mind-melding with the cheese chase:
is that the best toy evah or what?
Mine still play with their each and every day.
I hear Maddie swatting at it in the middle of the night.
>
Probably one of the reasons he chose Johnson as his running mate
Johnson also held the Senate by the balls and short hairs.
Kennedy was a junior congressman.
Senator George W. McCain, who will turn 72 this August, has been in Congress for more than a quarter century.
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And a proud repuke the whole time, who sided with AWOL cokehead 99.7% of the time, is now the "Candidate for Change"
BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Oh the hilarity.
Ooooh, Double Heada with Les Brewers coming up. (The virtually-extinct "Twi-night DH?") PERFECT background noise for all of the domestic shit I'be gotta accomplish..
He's a pathetic wretch of a human being.
Best description of McCain't I've read.
I may have to take to the john for some follow-up.
Johnson also held the Senate by the balls and short hairs.
Kennedy was a junior congressman.
virgotex | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 3:55 pm | #
I know, I'm just wondering if he was perceived as being "out of touch" because of his obvious blue blood upbringing.
I might add, being a Navy brat, he's been on the government teat his entire life.
Is there a BHO w/o Dean/Deaniacs?
Not being provocative. Seriously wondering what people think.
Dean definitely demonstrated what was possible with this sort of campaign.
(full disclosure: before I was an Obamabot, I was a Deaniac)
Hecate, true, but the thing is, Huggy's ambition totally dominates him, he'd gladly sell off his integrity, his honor, his children, his wife, his mother to feed his ambition.
If there was some clever way to bring it up during the debates that McCain was tortured and yet turned around and tortured others, demonstrating a complete lack of empathy and reverting to his id and ambition.
Topaz is attempted physics by mind-melding with the cheese chase:
is that the best toy evah or what?
Mine still play with their each and every day.
I hear Maddie swatting at it in the middle of the night.
fourlegsgood, kitteh wrangler | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 3:55 pm |
I know Brego plays with it during the nigh, because when i wake up it has been all the way down the hall. He loves it. Now if I could just find him a kitty-sized treadmill.
Kennedy was a junior congressman.
virgotex | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 3:55 pm | #
oh, and he also was a Senator by that time.
ril
That's a good queation. These things evolve.
for whoever said atrios posted this last week, I think you're probably remembering when I posted on this before.
But maybe not. I came late to Stoller's post.
I was a kid at the time, but the Word "Papist", used as an epithet, was thick in the air during that election.
I might add, being a Navy brat, he's been on the government teat his entire life.
Third generation, too.
Just that concentrated power is coalescing around unknown intent and ability
true of almost any Presidential candidate. Being a Governor or Congressperson is not that much of a barometer for Presidentialitude.
virgotex | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 3:54 pm | #
We do have evidence, however, that being a privileged son is a sure indicator of total incompetence.
Huggy's ambition totally dominates him, he'd gladly sell off his integrity, his honor, his children, his wife, his mother to feed his ambition.
I agree with you 100%. This guy wants to be president not for the sake of doing anything but just for the sake of being president. Like Bush, he's in love, IMHO, with the trappings of the job -- the Airforce One, the saluting, the jackets embroidered with "Commander in Chief," etc. -- thus, he'll do or say anything in order to get the job. If we defeat him this time, he'll be too old to bother anyone but Arizona ever again. And even Arizona might get sick of him.
Is there a BHO w/o Dean/Deaniacs?
Not being provocative. Seriously wondering what people think.
res ipsa loquitur | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 3:50 pm | #
No. I think he had a huge impact. But would he have gotten as far as he did without the 'net?
Probably not, but I think he gets credit for recognizing the potential and taking it to the next level.
What's the old saying? Good luck equals preparation intersecting with opportunity?
Not dissing you Jay, I just remember reading it here earlier. Like I said, it's still good news.
I wish I was young enough to go over to Hanoi and have sex with McSame's torturers like Jane Fonda did.
And what's with that star? His Dad and Grandfather
were Admirals, not him.
ROVE INDICTMENT IMMINENT
field hockey is for girls with endocrine problems
I was a kid at the time, but the Word "Papist", used as an epithet, was thick in the air during that election.
Who gets the pope's nose?
I was a kid at the time, but the Word "Papist", used as an epithet, was thick in the air during that election.
plantsman, less blue | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 3:57 pm | #
Absolutely. His Catholicism was definitely an issue. But I don't recall his being perceived as an out-of-touch snob and deemed unelectable because of it.
My point is that our standards for our elected officials have fallen. We used to have real scholars in both houses of Congress and in the WH. Now we have a lot of idiots. Everywhere.
McCain spent 7 years in prison because his father was an Admiral.
I wish I was young enough to go over to Hanoi and have sex with McSame's torturers like Jane Fonda did.
They still wouldn't have you.
McBush and Chimpy, riding off into the sunset together. Sort of.
Yeah, I think the Dean campaign laid the foundation. Demonstrated potential. BHO took the next step.
It will be curious to see how Dean and BHO's relationship evolves. You don't get more "same old Washington politics" than the DNC, but Dean makes it different. I don't sense that he's got much love from the Dem establishment these last four years.
I hope that changes.
BTW, Bobo's World.
I don't sense that he's got much love from the Dem establishment these last four years.
I hope that changes.
res ipsa loquitur | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 4:01 pm | #
i don't get the sense that he's all that fond of them, either.
No sweat virgotex. Didn't take it as a diss, really.
Coming when it's coming, with so many Republican Senate seats up, and with the Republican program laid out from crotch to sternum, Obama's looking at an unprecedented accumulation of power.
It's amazing, but we are still responding to the Civil rights act. It reminds of a story Kissinger told about Deng Xaio Ping. He asked him Deng something about the effects of the French Revolution, and Deng replied, "I don't know. We'll have to see."
I'm disappointed in Vestas Wind Energy, USA giving Huggy a platform in Portland.
I think Rachel Maddow rocks.
I'm glad MSNBC agrees.
field hockey is for girls with endocrine problems
As usual, you have no clue as to what you're talking about. You're the biggest blowhard that's ever posted here and you suck.
field hockey is for girls with endocrine problems
mimi | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 3:59 pm |
So you tried it and suckd at it?
From below:
Hillary gets the gaap-toothed banjo-women vote,
05.17.08 - 1:53 pm | #
Those sharp toothed accountants and their banjos.
I think Rachel Maddow rocks.
I'm glad MSNBC agrees.
Cut loose Pat Buchanan already and give Rachel her own show.
My point is that our standards for our elected officials have fallen. We used to have real scholars in both houses of Congress and in the WH. Now we have a lot of idiots. Everywhere.
You are right. Real scholars or truly powerful people with real courage and balls and talent.
Not just quick-talking millionaire snake oil salesman being marketed to the lowest common denominator, like movie stars or dishwashing detergent.
field hockey is for girls with endocrine problems
mimi | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 3:59 pm |
So you tried it and suckd at it?
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins | 05.17.08 - 4:03 pm | #
Considering that "she" is a "he", the problem is much more complicated than that.
I don't sense that he's got much love from the Dem establishment these last four years.
I hope that changes.
I think that it will change as the Dem establishment changes.
It will be curious to see how Dean and BHO's relationship evolves. You don't get more "same old Washington politics" than the DNC, but Dean makes it different. I don't sense that he's got much love from the Dem establishment these last four years.
Are U kidding? the DLC old style guys hate Dean.
Two JFK stories -- one was people saying, "You know he isn't doing it for the money."
The other was his campaigning in West Virginia, where it was assumed that Humphrey was a lock. JFK was approached by an old miner who said, "They tell me you never worked a day in your life." JFK said, "Well, I guess that's true." The old miner grinned and enthusiastically shook JFK's hand -- "Buddy, you ain't missed a thing!"
JFK won West Virginia.
BTW res, nice to see your tiara back!
Obviously he has a lot of supporters who give money now but who fronted the money in the beginning to essentially set up this huge campaign machine in Chicago before he had all these supporters and contributors?
I wish I was young enough to go over to Hanoi and have sex with McSame's torturers like Jane Fonda did.
Obama girl 2008
This sort of stuff is just one of the many reasons ya'll are going to lose huge in November.
And you're too stupid to understand why.
Thanks for 2008!
Rachel is a good fill-in for Keith, and it gives her time to develop her "TV-host" persona. She rocks when she's on the panel of Gregory's show.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator,
I'm not so sure about his reasons. We don't know where his wifes money is invested, he could be looking to cash in like BushCheney.
Not just quick-talking millionaire snake oil salesman being marketed to the lowest common denominator, like movie stars or dishwashing detergent.
virgotex | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 4:04 pm | #
He's a floor wax AND a dessert topping!
Looking forward to meeting you, btw ...
Obviously he has a lot of supporters who give money now but who fronted the money in the beginning to essentially set up this huge campaign machine in Chicago before he had all these supporters and contributors?
Wary | 05.17.08 - 4:05 pm | #
The Jihadis.
Plantsman, I had a glorious grass hike. The man leading the class is, at least in Texas, a renowned taxonomist and naturalist. It was a treat.
Prior! How are you doing? Ankle all better?
virgotex, that sounds wonderful! Glad you enjoyed it.
who fronted the money in the beginning to essentially set up this huge campaign machine in Chicago before he had all these supporters and contributors?
You know the thing about real grass roots campaigns is that they start off small and grow bigger as more people join.
Well, I haz to go do stuff today.
BBL
Jane Fonda is a real American Heroine whether you know it or not, Obama Child.
i don't get the sense that he's all that fond of them, either.
No, but he went there to help them, and I think they held him at arm's length. But BHO has co-opted his 50 state strategy, which is looking more and more like the way to go. So I think they'll be a bit more chummy with The Good Doctor come November.
I don't sense that he's got much love from the Dem establishment these last four years.
Understatement of the year.
Obviously he has a lot of supporters who give money now but who fronted the money in the beginning to essentially set up this huge campaign machine in Chicago before he had all these supporters and contributors?
Wary | 05.17.08 - 4:05 pm | #
Another fucking concern troll? Really, you people are idiots.
Know what I hate? Blogs with dark backgrounds and white letters. I hate them. That is all.
I am very worried about what we don't know about the Sunday school teachers at Obama's church.
And all that power coalescing around the man who will wield tremendous power as the POTUS.
And beware the jabberwock, my son
the jaws that bite, the claws that catch.
Beware the jubjub bird, and shun
the frumious bandersnatch.
I'm worried, people.
Another fucking concern troll? Really, you people are idiots.
heh...heh...heh...
Know what I hate? Blogs with dark backgrounds and white letters. I hate them. That is all.
I used to like them. Presbyopia took care of that.
I'm worried, people.
Rmj, Syndicate Theologist | 05.17.08 - 4:10 pm | #
As long as the boojum is not a snark, or vice-versa, we'll be ok.
Know what I hate? Blogs with dark backgrounds and white letters. I hate them. That is all.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Well, there go the plans for the re-design....
that sounds wonderful! Glad you enjoyed it.
really learning native grass is such an avocation. Two year in and I'm just now able to ID most of the major ones here, with or without inflorescence.
Sometimes. On a good day.
The Old Man From Scene 24,
I heard Brownback isn't running again, have you heard who might be running to replace him?
Obviously he has a lot of supporters who give money now but who fronted the money in the beginning to essentially set up this huge campaign machine in Chicago before he had all these supporters and contributors?
You know, this is where a well-placed comma can turn a piece of illiterate mess into English. A period, two spaces, and a capital letter would be even better. Thus:
Obviously he has a lot of supporters who give money now. But who fronted the money in the beginning to essentially set up this huge campaign machine in Chicago before he had all these supporters and contributors?
really learning native grass is such an avocation. Two year in and I'm just now able to ID most of the major ones here, with or without inflorescence.
Sometimes. On a good day.
virgotex | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 4:11 pm | #
In Tejas? That's pretty damn good.
I'm worried, people.
The trools are truly crapping theyselves.
I think Rachel Maddow rocks.
I'm glad MSNBC agrees.
fourlegsgood, kitteh wrangler
Nice that they're finally getting the point that there's an audience, and thus ad money, for the Leftish View. Maybe after the Rs get their asses handed to 'em in Nov, RM gets her own show, and other non-wingnut faces start to appear on the tube. No, I haven't been in the cooking sherry...
Rootless thinks it was the Jihadis. You are worried, RMJ, but you didn't tell us who you think fronted it.
O/T: I have been out running errands and just learned about Sen. Kennedy (who happens to be my senator).
I put a call into a friend of mine who covers the congress and lives in DC and I haven't been able to reach her. Both she and her husband are very, very close to the Senator and his wife. As soon as I hear something I will let everyone know.
I feel very badly about this but at least he is at the General--and if you have to be ill, that is THE place to be.
My friend will let me know the scoop--she loves
Atrios however, she has 2 teenagers that keep her very busy on weekends.
I have to scoot--Mass and Whole Foods--what a boring life I lead.
Having native grasses to identify is pretty wonderful, too.
Obviously he has a lot of supporters who give money now but who fronted the money in the beginning to essentially set up this huge campaign machine in Chicago before he had all these supporters and contributors?
Wary
Quick, people! Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
We must solve this problem, or all is lost!
And who gave the money to the people who gave the money to the people who gave the money!!!
And is it really turtles all the way down????!!!!
I am very worried about what we don't know about the Sunday school teachers at Obama's church.
And lets not forget that he was born and raised in Hawaii. Where he might have been influenced by Don Ho, whose name is similar to Ho Chi Minh. I'm very concerned.
Another fucking concern troll? Really, you people are idiots.
They are seriously teh stoopid if they don't think we can't suss them out from about 10 parsecs away, and I'm not talking Kessel Run parsecs.
Know what I hate? Blogs with dark backgrounds and white letters. I hate them. That is all.
Even Plush Life?
It's black because photos look better against a black background.
Rootless thinks it was the Jihadis. You are worried, RMJ, but you didn't tell us who you think fronted it.
Wary | 05.17.08 - 4:13 pm | #
RMJ gave us a clue, but he's obviously afraid to name names. Longtime the maxome foe, we sought.
Rootless thinks it was the Jihadis. You are worried, RMJ, but you didn't tell us who you think fronted it.
Wary | 05.17.08 - 4:13 pm | #
Thick as a brick, this one is.
I was taught to not begin sentences with conjunctions????
I am very worried about what we don't know about the Sunday school teachers at Obama's church.
don't overlook the Deacons. The Deacons run the whole show.
Richard Milhous Obama:
"I am not an appeaser.."
Rootless thinks it was the Jihadis. You are worried, RMJ, but you didn't tell us who you think fronted it.
Wary
Do I have to paint a fucking picture for you?
Obama = Osama
Hussein?
It was bin Laden in cahoots with Saddam HUSSEIN
You're not too quick on the uptake.
Type becomes hard to read on a dark ground after a certain milestone.
I heard Brownback isn't running again, have you heard who might be running to replace him?
his term is up in 2010, as is our esteemed Governor's final term...
I would be surprised if she doesn't run.
I have nothing to add. Just dropping by to test whether this gravatar thing works.
Leftfield is incapable of thinking of an answer.
Richard Milhous Obama:
"I am not an appeaser.."
Lubyanka | 05.17.08 - 4:15 pm
Oh, look, it's Kevin James!
Rootless thinks it was the Jihadis. You are worried, RMJ, but you didn't tell us who you think fronted it.
Wary
Milo Minderbinder. Because we all have a share in the syndicate.
don't overlook the Deacons. The Deacons run the whole show.
virgotex | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 4:15 pm | #
Why does every discussion here turn into a religious argument about college basketball?
Darn. Apparently not.
Even Plush Life?
I can read Plush Life. I went to a blog I really love and gave up trying to read white letters on a purple background.
Milo Minderbinder. Because we all have a share in the syndicate.
RMJ's mistake...assuming concern troll gets the reference.
-10 points. You may serve again.
Leftfield is incapable of thinking of an answer.
Wary | 05.17.08 - 4:16 pm | #
You have not presented any question worthy of a serious response.
Luby is even more pointless than usual, which I would not have believed was possible.
"And lets not forget that he was born and raised in Hawaii. Where he might have been influenced by Don Ho, whose name is similar to Ho Chi Minh. I'm very concerned."
I would love to see this said to a "serious journalist."
Luby is even more pointless than usual, which I would not have believed was possible.
Rather like Bart Simpson discovering that something can blow and suck at the same time.
Is Lubby made because Tricky Dick met with Chairman Mao? I thought Tricky Dick was one of these fuckwad's Patron saints?
go Kleeb go Noriega go Franken
Milo Minderbinder. Because we all have a share in the syndicate.
Rmj, Syndicate Theologist | 05.17.08 - 4:16 pm | #
Don't forget the gaap-toothed banjo players.
Sarbanes and Oxley have deep and undisclosed roles in this conspiracy.
billy b you are really boring.
Is Lubby made because Tricky Dick met with Chairman Mao? I thought Tricky Dick was one of these fuckwad's Patron saints?
Didn't Nixon also meet with the evil Soviets for some treaties?
I thought Tricky Dick was one of these fuckwad's Patron saints?
Nope. Appeaser. They're all Appeasers.
Except for our Dear Leader.
I was taught to not begin sentences with conjunctions????
Completely allowed under modern rules. I've done it in appellate pleadings for years. Besides, if you can begin a sentence w/ "However," you can begin a sentence w/ "But." I'll take a sentence beginning w/ "But" any day over an overly-long sentence where it's unclear what "who" means.
billy b you are really boring.
billy b is funny, smart, incisive, and well-loved. You, not so much.
Rmj -- I say turtles all the way down -- BTW -- saw ex post facto your exchange w/ proud atheist -- kudos -- the notion that non-fundies can't call themselves Xians when fundies are such a recent development is bizarre!
Hecate -- not so much sometimes the ankle hurts, but not as you might expect -- viz., pain on the side opposite to the break -- back of opposite knee still sore -- running very slow for short distances -- prolly never back to where I was (nor likely to get younger, either)
I thought Tricky Dick was one of these fuckwad's Patron saints?
Nope. Appeaser. They're all Appeasers.
Except for our Dear Leader.
JayAckroyd | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 4:20 pm | #
I just realized why bushie refuses to meet with any of the furners. They all speak better English than he does, and they all laugh at him for being an idiot.
I thought Tricky Dick was one of these fuckwad's Patron saints?
Nope. Appeaser. They're all Appeasers.
Except for our Dear Leader.
Even Saint Reagan has been accused of base appeasement of the Commie Hordes.
Pat Robertson railed at Reagan's appeasement of the evil Reds.
Completely allowed under modern rules.
This was not a complete sentence surely even with modern rules (since we are nit picking)?
Reagan and George I traded arms to the Iranians.
Prior,
It takes time. Glad you're out of your cast (she says, carefully.) Am still enjoying the books you sent, a few chapters at a time (all that I can grab). Please give my love to Fr. William and Br. Cuthbert. If my new raised herb bed does as I expect, I hope to send Br. Cuthbert a lot of herbs this Fall.
Wary, the "It is" you seek was understood.
Nope. Appeaser. They're all Appeasers.
So everything since 1974 has been to avenge an Appeaser?
Reagan and George I traded arms to the Iranians.
How did the deserter KNOW that Saddam had chemical weapons?
Because Rummy showed him the receipts.
So who did front the money, Hecate, if you can restrain yourself from butting in for a moment to have a thought? It seems like a reasonable question to me? Somebody fronted it.
So who did front the money, Hecate, if you can restrain yourself from butting in for a moment to have a thought? It seems like a reasonable question to me? Somebody fronted it.
Wary | 05.17.08 - 4:26 pm | #
FORP.
~
Wary | 05.17.08 - 4:26 pm | #
Why are you so concerned about specific donors to a campaign? Do you have specific and credible evidence of something nefarious, or are you just being a dick?
Somebody fronted it.
you are an idiot.
Concerning grammar:
We are DFHs. We are rule breakers. As long as it is understood, who the fuck cares? (I know, I know, all the English professors here.)
I understood, "Completely allowed under modern rules."
Sometimes a little personality creeps into a person's writing when allowed to play with the English language.....but I feel I've crossed a line somehow, I'll shut up.
The Weather Underground, the Symbionese Liberation Army, and the Black Panthers fronted it, duh.
I was reading posts over at one of Hillary's sites this morning (I forget which one, there are so many) and I was a bit stunned by their delusion of the way things are.
After this past week with even the MSM coughing it up for Obama as the nominee, it seems that Hillary and her people still believe that not only can she win, but she will win.
Not only that, but they seem to be enjoying a fantasy that Senator Hillary will also have the majority of popular votes after Florida and Michigan are counted. Now tell me this, after all of the articles I have read, after all of the numbers I have run, after all of the people that have stated differently; Hillary is still claiming that she will be the victor in popular votes. Not only is this seemingly untrue (even with the bogus states counted) BUT her supporters seem to think that should give her the nomination.
Since we count our nominees by delegate count at this point in time, can anyone explain this rationale to me? I simply do not "get" it...
Wary,
Wanting a sentence to express unambiguous meaning is not nit picking. Using a fragment that conveys meaning is certainly accepted. I've done it in successful SCOTUS pleadings. If the need for clear writing were unimportant, I wouldn't get paid what I do largely based upon my ability to turn mush into English.
FORP yourself. People seem very reluctant to think about real information on this blog and very enthusiastic about putting people down. Too bad!
Holy cow. Look at the pic from China on the NYT home page right now.
You aren't getting paid to insult people on this blog I hope, Hecate.
Wary,
Although I am new here, I must say that I have found this blog to be especially insightful. Perhaps the insights are not what you were looking for, but they do exist.
Rmj -- I say turtles all the way down -- BTW -- saw ex post facto your exchange w/ proud atheist -- kudos -- the notion that non-fundies can't call themselves Xians when fundies are such a recent development is bizarre!
Well, there's world Xianity (Copts; several types of Orthodox), non-American Protestants; non-American Catholics; non-Roman Catholic Catholics; the Anglican Communion...
Just to speak in general groupings. And then there's the noisy American Xians and the "quiet" American Xians (and so many groupings within American Protestantism alone I can't keep up).
And I find most people know nothing at all about Xianity, and they are, of course, the experts!
And sometimes I'm nice about it and, frankly, sometimes I'm not. I'm working on that....
FORP yourself. People seem very reluctant to think about real information on this blog and very enthusiastic about putting people down. Too bad!
Wary | 05.17.08 - 4:29 pm | #
Answer the question! YES or NO.
DO YOU HAVE SPECIFIC AND CREDIBLE EVIDENCE THAT THERE IS ANYTHING REMOTELY QUESTIONABLE ABOUT OBAMA'S FUNDRAISING?
If not, then fuck off and die.
FORP yourself. People seem very reluctant to think about real information on this blog and very enthusiastic about putting people down. Too bad!
Wary
I LOVE real information!
Got any?
So who did front the money, Hecate, if you can restrain yourself from butting in for a moment to have a thought? It seems like a reasonable question to me? Somebody fronted it.
I don't think that anyone "fronted" it. I sent Obama some money when he was running for Senate; I'm guessing many others like me did the same. I thought it was wonderful to see another African American in the Senate and he seemed like an inspiring and caring person.
If you have some information to indicate that some shadowy group "fronted" his first campaign, I'd be interested to see it. Otherwise, you're a stranger here who writes poorly and throws shit at the wall to see what sticks.
FORP yourself. People seem very reluctant to think about real information on this blog and very enthusiastic about putting people down. Too bad!
Wary | 05.17.08 - 4:29 pm | #
Now we see the violence inherent in the system! Help, I'm being repressed!
Fucking troolz. Invent a new play, will you?
~
Messiah Obama:
like Kerry, another self-styled "nuanced" Dimocrat candidate
Since we count our nominees by delegate count at this point in time,
can anyone explain this rationale to me? I simply do not "get" it...
you are a troll. what's not to get?
You aren't getting paid to insult people on this blog I hope, Hecate.
Wary | 05.17.08 - 4:30 pm | #
Are you?
Sounds like another one of either mimi's or Elias' personae to me.
"And sometimes I'm nice about it and, frankly, sometimes I'm not. I'm working on that....
Rmj, Syndicate Theologist"
Keeping working -- you've got to get over the "nice" part!
Although I am new here, I must say that I have found this blog to be especially insightful. Perhaps the insights are not what you were looking for, but they do exist.
There is no insight in refusing to discuss reasonable subjects and instead throwing insults and names. Stick around, Polly.
BG, why don't you go blow simels. Wait, you've already done that!
Wary,
Pardon us if we're a little wary of these.
Since we count our nominees by delegate count at this point in time, can anyone explain this rationale to me? I simply do not "get" it...
The argument is that a popular vote win would convince the Super Delegates to back Clinton as the more "electable" candidate.
The SDs even those who have in the past publicly backed one candidate are free to switch sides later (several Clinton SDs have switched to Obama) so presumably they believe that enough can be convinced to switch before August.
Lubyanka..hates to think, wants dumb people elected to office, so he can feepl like a part of the group
I think Hillary is running for veep at this point.
What Obama WON'T change:
- Letting War Criminals off the hook (a la Bill Clinton)
- Letting Wall Street off the hook
- Letting Corpirate America off the hook
The criminals will walk away scott free & we'll be subjected to 'inspiring' speeches telling us to work harder and make do with less due to criminal looting & atrocities.
Good God. I open Haloscan to check in, and I'm greeted to a bunch of concern trollage.
5 years is too long to keep having to put up with the inanity.
Messiah McCaina
'I can seee the future"
Coservatards reoice
you g-g-g-o old man
you are a troll. what's not to get?
So Elias | 05.17.08 - 4:34 pm
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Egads, I'm a troll now? Why is that? Because I don't understand why or how Hillary's supporters can mangle the math to try to prove that she is winning a (nonexistent) popular vote?
If you have some information to indicate that some shadowy group "fronted" his first campaign, I'd be interested to see it.
That's why I asked the question--to see if anybody know who had fronted the money. It obviously had to be fronted in the beginning to organize this campaign machine.
I can't imagine Hillary as the veep nominee. The demographics are way off.
res
That picture is pretty scary. Wonder if people from other parts of China are meeting them at the bridges with guns?
Too many people, not enough planet.
That's why I asked the question--to see if anybody know who had fronted the money. It obviously had to be fronted in the beginning to organize this campaign machine.
Well, why don't you go out and dig it up? Thanks to the internet, you don't have to be so passive anymore.
Obviously.
Sheesh.
wow...that's some olympian concern trollling
I'm concerned John McCain is gettting funded by his shadowy wife and the soviets
Cindy McCain is reaally the mother of the lead in the manchurian candidate
It obviously had to be fronted in the beginning to organize this campaign machine.
Wary | 05.17.08 - 4:39 pm
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Why is it OBVIOUS that for Obama to have an effective campaign it had to be fronted? why isn't it possible that people were (and are) actually inspired by the candidate and WANT to give money?
That picture is pretty scary. Wonder if people from other parts of China are meeting them at the bridges with guns?
YOu mean the way those people in Louisiana met the people from New Orleans fleeing Katrina?
Well, why don't you go out and dig it up? Thanks to the internet, you don't have to be so passive anymore.
Anon
Insinuation is SO much easier!
BG, why don't you go blow simels. Wait, you've already done that!
mimi | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 4:35 pm | #
Yeah, I figured you were still slithering around back there ...
Get your own sex life. Of course, that assumes you can find someone willing to fuck you.
It obviously had to be fronted in the beginning to organize this campaign machine.
bullshit.
His campaign grew as he attracted more supporters, its a very simple concept. As it happens it appears to be a very effective and well run campaign.
It obviously had to be fronted in the beginning
Do you have ANY proof for this? Maybe it started out as a shoestring organization and grew. Maybe there was some money left over from his Senate campaign and he's used the internet to raise more.
Grow up. You can't show up at a blog such as this one and just throw poo at the walls. Either you've got some cards in your hand or you're full of shit.
It obviously had to be fronted in the beginning to organize this campaign machine.
I agree with this ... re John McCain.
We know who his front was: his drug addict heiress trophy wife.
Why is it OBVIOUS that for Obama to have an effective campaign it had to be fronted? why isn't it possible that people were (and are) actually inspired by the candidate and WANT to give money?
Polly_Tics
I'm wondering that, too. Why couldn't it have started with people who wanted to support him?
His support is primarily individual, not corporate nor "fat cat". Why is that an impossible place to begin?
peace and humptiness forever, obviously
Wary | 05.17.08 - 4:35 pm | #
Ok, since you have not demonstrated even reasonable human intelligence, I will explain why you can't be taken seriously.
You asked "who fronted the money in the beginning to essentially set up this huge campaign machine in Chicago".
In this question, you present, as fact, that somebody "fronted the money" to begin Obama's presidential campaign. You have been asked repeatedly to produce evidence of that assertion. And yet, you continue with the same implication without evidence.
Until you are able to defend your arguments, you are not worthy of any respect.
I can't imagine Hillary as the veep, sorry. It just doesn't fit with Obama or his campaign thus far. BUT even though I have been an Edwards supporter all along, I don't think he would be a compliment to Obama's candidacy.
It obviously had to be fronted in the beginning to organize this campaign machine.
Unless you have evidence for this, I respectfully request that you STFU.
BG, and you found the oldest and wrinkliest guy in the Tri-State area. what a catch!
Get your own sex life.
Barack Obama will cure cancer!
YOu mean the way those people in Louisiana met the people from New Orleans fleeing Katrina?
Exactly. That image still haunts me as we head into increased water wars and higher-intensity enviro-movements.
I can't imagine Hillary as the veep nominee.
I just hope that she campaigns for Obama this fall with the same energy and determination she showed during the primary.
I just had NECN on and they are reporting that Sen. Kennedy is undergoing tests and that they will not really know anything for another 48 hours. His family said his condition is serious at this time. Sen. Kerry visited with him for an half hour this afternoon.
The following are a couple of places you can go for info on him: www.wbztv., and www.necn. These are 2 very good sources.
Prior Alered, you were missing last night but we saved some birthday cake for you and for Culture of Truth--also, for anyone else who didn't get any--there is champagne too. Have at it.
Either you've got some cards in your hand or you're full of shit.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
I vote for no cards.
Afternoon, kids.
I really do have to give up my home improvement hobby before I kill myself.
BG, and you found the oldest and wrinkliest guy in the Tri-State area. what a catch!
mimi | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 4:44 pm | #
This coming from someone who bragged that "she" had a 99-year-old admirer.
You aren't getting paid to insult people on this blog I hope, Hecate.
Wary
Er, who are you?
Molly,
What home improvement project are you doing now? Is Rosie helping?
Rmj, Syndicate Theologist | 05.17.08 - 4:43 pm
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Right! I know we have given more to his campaign than any other in recent memory. Add our extended family to that figure and you already have a lot of folk who readily donated just because of Obama, not because we are part of some front group.
LOL, actually it's kinda funny to think our group would ever be even considered a front group. We are just a bunch of concerned people (of different party affiliations) that actually LIKE this guy.
yes, a 99 year old, but that's more to his credit than to mine. and he was a super cutie too!
I hope to be as randy as he is at that age!
The US Gov't is a criminal enterprise no matter who's President.
Admit it.
Accept it.
Act accordingly.
You know, simels isn't a kid, but he's hardly ancient. Plus, he's funny, charming, adorable, and smart. A couple of years ago I zipped in to see a band, bringing with me a 22 year old friend. We stopped to see steve for maybe ten minutes, and when we got back in the car, she said "Oh My God! I have such a crush on him!"
BG, why don't you go blow simels. Wait, you've already done that!
mimi |
Butler, anyone ever tell you what an ignorant pig you are?
simels is a self-serving, self-promoting critic with bad taste and a bad temper from what I've seen here.
Molly: Come to my home in Massachusetts and you can give me a helping hand--I have projects up the yingyang and I am hopeless. My late husband was a real renaissance man who could fix or build anything.
Hecate: do you have any pictures of your raised flower and herb beds? I absolutely love that look. If you have any pic's would you post them? Thanks.
LOL, actually it's kinda funny to think our group would ever be even considered a front group. We are just a bunch of concerned people (of different party affiliations) that actually LIKE this guy.
Polly_Tics
You are obviously part of a conspiracy!
That, or you have a share in the syndicate.
People obviously want to give money to Obama but in the beginning there had to be a lot of money. This is not just a normal campaign but had to be well financed in the beginning to be the huge machine it is. If you don't want to believe that you can keep thinking that the money appeared out of nowhere or trickled in ten bucks at a time before he was even viable???. Who cares what you think. I sure as heck don't. It is pretty funny how nervous everybody gets here when somebody says something that can even remotely be interpreted to be against Obama.
Hecate,
We had a sprung heat pipe over the winter and are just getting around to reflooring the room, since Todd's coming in 2 weeks. The pergo takes some negotiating, often with a hammer, and my thumb got in the way. The whole nail is purple.
Terry C,
I thought I was kill filed.
That's all you talk about.
I just hope that she campaigns for Obama this fall with the same energy and determination she showed during the primary.
The Old Man From Scene 24 | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 4:44 pm
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Agreed, but somehow I just don't think that will happen. I really do hope that I'm wrong here, but thus far she seems awfully content to have her minions as malcontents. (and to all of Hillary's supporters: YES, I know all about her recent rally to Bush about Obama and the Nazi thang).
Polly, you will fit in well here. Nobody to my knowledge even suggested that this was a front group??
This is not just a normal campaign but had to be well financed in the beginning to be the huge machine it is.
Great. What's your proof? Go dig up the evidence. Show us the links.
Who cares what you think. I sure as heck don't.
And yet, you're still here.
Prior Alered: Can you give me absolution because I ain't going to make the 6 o'clock Mass tonight?
Plus, he's funny, charming, adorable, and smart.
Steve is all that, and more. He's also consistently nice and non-judgmental towards pretty much everyone on the blog except trolls. That ability not to be an asshole is a v. good and v. important trait in people, imo.
Oh, go take your meds, mimi.
What, a supermodel doesn't have plans on a Saturday night?
This is not just a normal campaign but had to be well financed in the beginning to be the huge machine it is.
Assuming facts not in evidence.
Are we fronting or pimping?
People obviously want to give money to Obama but in the beginning there had to be a lot of money.
PROVE IT! How fucking hard is that? Show us EXACTLY HOW MUCH MONEY he had in the coffers at the beginning of the campaign.
Are we fronting or pimping?
Oh, why do we have to choose?
I'll go further and say that steve is one of the most wonderful people I've met here. I'm delighted that he's happy.
Wary | 05.17.08 - 4:50 pm
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I'm sorry, I didn't see your original post; I simply read your latest posts and others response.
You didn't accuse that a front group had to be responsible for Obama getting the nomination? This I will need to check. BRB
"I can't imagine Hillary as the veep nominee. "
Never say never.
I can't imagine Hillary as the veep nominee. The demographics are way off.
leibniz leibkins ♘☮
I think she would help with older swing state voters who are uneasy with too much change.
Just for the record, I would consider it a great honor to have Hecate hurl insults at me, pro bono.
Are we fronting or pimping?
I'm just keeping it real.
Are we fronting or pimping?
Oh, why do we have to choose?
Molly Ivors
Is there a difference? I'm so out of it, I don't know.
umm, Molly go fill your face with food again, and your husband's while you're at it.
all Steve does is blogwhoring and insult people.
he also has the worst taste in music and movies
not much fun to be around, that's for sure.
America is a criminal enterprise and there is no will nor capacity to stop it.
Iran is next.
I'll go further and say that steve is one of the most wonderful people I've met here. I'm delighted that he's happy.
Me too. Would that more people were like Simels. This would be a better world.
Hecate: do you have any pictures of your raised flower and herb beds? I absolutely love that look. If you have any pic's would you post them? Thanks.
I have a ton of pics, but right now, my MacBook won't let me load them. I have an appointment at the "Genius Bar" tomorrow to figure out the problem. The look is going to be kinda funky Arts & Crafts, brick mixed w/ river stones. I've got some v nice young men who've torn up part of my two-car driveway (since I only need one car) to put a huuuuuuuge herb bed in the West, where I actually get sun. I keep alternating between thinking that the bed is too little to let me grow everything that I want to grow and worrying how I'll ever fill up such a large bed. It's going to have paths of thyme running through it that you can walk on, releasing the scent of thyme w/ every step. I am v excited about it.
right - a world full of Simels would look a lot like the Middle East
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 4:53 pm
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I know, it's not a good habit. I also seemingly remember you are a hearty supporter of Hillary's, no?
Do you really see both Obama and Hillary as a good fit? They just don't make sense to me.
I came in late.
For what are we allegedly a front?
Wow. Just in time for the meltdown, I see.
Right! I know we have given more to his campaign than any other in recent memory. Add our extended family to that figure and you already have a lot of folk who readily donated just because of Obama, not because we are part of some front group.
My Dad and Brother both gave Obama large personal donations last summer, and neither of them had donated any campaign before. They did this as individuals, not at the prompting of any group.
I've given Obama hundreds of dollars so far and I had never given money to candidates before the 2004 election (one thing George W. Bush has accomplished is to increase the number of active Democrats in this country).
Are we fronting or pimping?
Oh, why do we have to choose?
Molly Ivors
Is there a difference? I'm so out of it, I don't know.
Cookie Fleck `08
Well, I could front for a pimp. But pimping for a front? I'd have to think about that....
umm, Molly go fill your face with food again, and your husband's while you're at it.
Don't do this v often, but I'm going to do magic tonight to hurt you. You are an ass.
Molly, if you melted down, maybe you could get rid of some of that flab you carry around
Oh, yeah! I can't wait to see Hecate's garden!
Can't we ever have a troll who doesn't melt down?
That would be pennies from heaven.
Terry C,
I believe that there is an open allegation that Obama had to have a Front Group to get his campaign off the ground (so to speak)...
(one thing George W. Bush has accomplished is to increase the number of active Democrats in this country).
The Old Man From Scene 24
Well, look what he's done for Al Qaeda's recruiting!
Hey, I may be chubby, but I have people who love me. Not like you at all.
Molly, if you melted down, maybe you could get rid of some of that flab you carry around
And you wonder why people here don't like you.
Hecate, do all you can. I am a rational person and am not scared of all crones chanting incantations.
So has Thers revealed the deep dark mystery yet?
The increased Dem turnout isn't due solely to Obama. According to ARG, "There are exceptions (such as Arkansas, Tennessee, and Rhode Island), but Clinton, and not Obama, tends to win in the states where turnouts are higher. The relationship is strong enough that Democratic primary turnout can be predicted using Clinton's share of the vote."
Both candidates turnout their supporters .
Molly, more people love me than love you, I would be willing to wager.
I'm going to do magic tonight to hurt you
I shall burn white candles in your honor, Hecate. I won't say what I'm thinking; it wouldn't be prudent.
War with Iran = fait accompli
Happy October!
Oh, and the proof of love isn't how many men have impregnated you, did you know?
Terry C,
I believe that there is an open allegation that Obama had to have a Front Group to get his campaign off the ground (so to speak)...
Polly_Tics
Is THAT what we're being accused of?
Obama's raising his money honestly. I admit that I'm a little concerned to see so much fundraising channeled through one person, however. I don't think he's got any Spitzer-like secrets waiting to implode, but no one would have thought that of Spitzer, either.
I came in late.
For what are we allegedly a front?
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 4:55 pm | #
The People's Front of Obama, obviously!
~
"Prior Alered: Can you give me absolution because I ain't going to make the 6 o'clock Mass tonight?
sconset"
No, but I have to go to church now for Vespers & I will pray for you (& your senator & his family)
umm, Molly go fill your face with food again, and your husband's while you're at it.
Go fill your ass with some strange cock, pig.
I'm back from my errands, btw.
Cherries are $8.00/pound, mid grade gas is 3.81/gallon.
It's going to have paths of thyme running through it that you can walk on, releasing the scent of thyme w/ every step.
Sounds wonderful!
Gee, who is a nicer or funnier guy than Steve. I'm kind of proud of knowing him and only slightly jealous of BG since I've got Mr. ql.
The pergo takes some negotiating, often with a hammer, and my thumb got in the way. The whole nail is purple.
I am sending some Reiki to your thumb right now. I have Pergo in the kitchen and I love it. Make NTodd do some work!
So has Thers revealed the deep dark mystery yet?
Tonight at FDL.
I've given Obama hundreds of dollars so far and I had never given money to candidates before the 2004 election (one thing George W. Bush has accomplished is to increase the number of active Democrats in this country).
The Old Man From Scene 24 | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 4:55 pm
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I have given to other candidates before, just not as much and not as often. Heck, it may not be much each time, but we are giving every few weeks (especially AFTER primary's)
umm, Molly go fill your face with food again, and your husband's while you're at it.
Trolls have a problem with people enjoying food?
The People's Front of Obama, obviously!
Splitter!
Oh, so Steve has the QL seal of approval!
Jeesh
Stormysue just beat me 345-344.
It is pretty funny how nervous everybody gets here when somebody says something that can even remotely be interpreted to be against Obama.
Wary | 05.17.08 - 4:49 pm | #
Oh my god,the cover is being ripped off the whole operation!
I think she would help with older swing state voters who are uneasy with too much change.
_
don't forget "women of a certain age"...help there too.
For what are we allegedly a front?
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist
The People's Front of Obama, obviously!
~
ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®©
Not me - I belong to the Obama People's Front.
This is not just a normal campaign but had to be well financed in the beginning to be the huge machine it is. If you don't want to believe that you can keep thinking that the money appeared out of nowhere or trickled in ten bucks at a time before he was even viable???.
What part of "it grew as more people joined" do you not understand? What is it about his campaign that you think it required huge amounts of money to kick start? Do you not remember the buzz an articles about him from when he was first running for the Senate in 2004? The speech at the convention in 2004? Do you not think its possible that people looked at the guy then and were impressed with with what they saw?
Tonight at FDL.
Molly Ivors | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 4:59 pm | #
Buck Mulligan is Raffi. We know already.
I think she would help with older swing state voters who are uneasy with too much change.
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don't forget "women of a certain age"...help there too.
el
Being too cavalier about any voting bloc is a problem.
Stormysue just beat me 345-344.
I just finished a game with Jen where I had over 350 points and she had 500. I almost cringe every time she starts a new game with me, because it's really affecting my overall score.
Wary,
I know things can get a bit testy at times (ducking) but it's not that you are saying something against Obama, you are actually accusing his campaign of being fronted by some sort of group [because] as we know, he couldn't possibly be getting all of that money through individual contributions.
That's the rub
Not me - I belong to the Obama People's Front.
SPLITTER!
I CAN'T TAKE THE PRESSURE ANYMORE. I admit it. I fronted the money to start Obama's campaign. There, I feel better now, getting that off my chest.
Whewww. What a relief.
Being too cavalier about any voting bloc is a problem.
Molly Ivors | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 5:02 pm | #
Well, we learned earlier today that BHO refused to have his photo taken with the mayor of SF.
That's about as "too cavilier" as you can get.
Hecate, do all you can. I am a rational person and am not scared of all crones chanting incantations.
mimi
Crone? From what I've heard that's one "crone" I wouldn't mind seeing skyclad.
Well, we learned earlier today that BHO refused to have his photo taken with the mayor of SF.
He did? Why?
That's about as "too cavilier" as you can get.
Oh Christ, try to calm down.
lumpen, that's not what sitten pretty says. I trust her.
I live just outside San Fran and I haven't heard anything about this refusal to take a pix thing...
He did? Why?
The Old Man From Scene 24 | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 5:04 pm | #
No idea. It may even be true.
Well, we learned earlier today that BHO refused to have his photo taken with the mayor of SF.
Quoi?
Hecate: Did you call Apple Tech Support? I just got off the phone with them because my IBook wasn't refreshing. The number is 1-800-275-2273. Good luck.
Barry Changes Nothing. | 05.17.08 - 4:38 pm
So you're just going to stay home election night or vote for McCain?
rootless,
AND it may be a total fabrication. Hey it happens, doesn't it?
I trust her.
(bites hole through tongue)
Egads, I'm a troll now? Why is that? -Polly_Tics
because you claimed to be "new" upthread yet you "remembered" Terry C's position held long ago - now go back and tee up Wary, you need each other
In 2004, Obama didn't want his pic taken with Newsom. I'm assuming it was because of the gay marriage thing in SF. Obama probably thought that it was a politically shrewd move not to have his photo taken at the time.
It's old news.
oh right, Molly, another rival chased away from this blog.
This is Butler's problem.
~
Polly's not around all the time, but she's been here before. Something of a newbie, but certainly not a troll.
The following is one article about how it was financed but I really don't know why I had to try to find the answer to my own question. Now I suppose I will be abused because this article doesn't answer the question the way I said it did or intimated. I believe this one article suggests the truth of my statement that this campaign machine is unusual in it size and organization and obviously it wasn't financed by ten dollar contributions of the fans. If you don't want to talk about something I don't see where it says anywhere that you have to but it also doesn't say you have to abuse people either.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/
ne...1,6037417.story
Being too cavalier about any voting bloc is a problem.
What Molly said.
I simply don't buy the "well, they hate each other so it won't happen" stuff. I do deals every week w parties who hate each other. Put enough $$$ or power on the table and people will do deals with the devil in the pale moonlight. I've seen deals w folks who wanted to salt each other's land work out when there was enough on the table. Hil would take VP at this point, and, she should. It will move the cause of feminism that much forward. A good lawyer could negotiate an important enough portfolio for her (which, IMHO, should NOT include health care) that she should take that job and run with it. She's not yet sixty.
But, then, I make a living doing deals such as this, so maybe I'm biased.
In Central Park today I saw a guy with a T-shirt that said Another Typical White Person for McCain.
Being too cavalier about any voting bloc is a problem.
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I don't disagree with that, but Obama and Hill seem to have complimentary constituencies. And the admiring females I've seen pix of her with (coffee klatch atmosphere) look to be extremely loyal, with a sense this is historic and will make life different for them if a woman ascends the throne.
It's not a bad thing.
Polly's not around all the time, but she's been here before. Something of a newbie, but certainly not a troll.
Molly Ivors
Polly's no troll. Polly is cool.
So Elias | 05.17.08 - 5:06 pm
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by NEW I meant I have been coming here for about 2 weeks now (give or take). That IS new, isn't it?
As for remembering Terry C, how can I forget her? We have spoken a number of times already.
Quoi?
Molly Ivors | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 5:06 pm | #
It was another, "I'm a lifelong democrat who has voted for every Democrat since FDR, but this has gone too far and i'm concerned", type of post.
the concern level is very high, apparently.
~ ~
. .
So you're just going to stay home election night or vote for McCain?
I don't vote for fascists of either party.
Therefore, I don't vote.
Iran War Protest?
Why bother?
In 2004, at the height of the firestorm that was set off by Mayor Gavin Newsom authorizing same sex marriages in San Francisco, previous Mayor Willie Brown held a fundraiser for U.S. Senate candidate Barack Obama. The candidate had a request to Mayor Brown:
"And he said to me, he would really appreciate it if he didn't get his photo taken with my mayor. He said he would really not like to have his picture taken with Gavin."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/la...s-
_b_85077.html
Polly's not around all the time, but she's been here before. Something of a newbie, but certainly not a troll.
Molly Ivors | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 5:07 pm
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THANK YOU Molly! I can't tell you how often I have been called just that this past week.
In Central Park today I saw a guy with a T-shirt that said Another Typical White Person for McCain.
res ipsa loquitur |
Another Ignorant Moron is more like it.
I can't believe how some people like to advertise how clueless they are.
It's not a bad thing.
Nope. I agree completely.
the concern level is very high, apparently.
Huh.
¿Simels got married?
¿Or what?
¿eh?
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 5:08 pm
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Thanks my dear and might I add that you ain't so bad yourself!
Therefore, I don't vote.
Huh.
I believe this one article suggests the truth of my statement that this campaign machine is unusual in it size and organization and obviously it wasn't financed by ten dollar contributions of the fans.
I read it as a small campaign that grew, added members, raised cash, grew...and so on. Imagine a face-to-face version of a hugely popular facebook entry.
I don't vote for fascists of either party.
Therefore, I don't vote.
Iran War Protest?
Why bother?
It's Coming.
Not everyone is a quitter.
Polly, you're in like Flynn now that you've got the Community College seal of approval.
"I have voted for every democrat since Neville Chamberlain, but if Obama is this year's nominee, I will be forced to vote for McCain."
-wary
Not married, EGN. Just dating, but v. happy. Twitterpated, even.
You are all trolls.
Excuse me.
Is there any news on Senator kennedy?
I suppose this is where I chime in and say hey maybe, just maybe, Barack Obama isn't naive, green and wet-behind-the-ears, but actually knows what he is doing?
I do have a slight concern, as noted above, but we New Yorkers are a little skittish about any one person being the answer to our problems.
We've had a rough year.
No news about the senator other than the 2 seizures, but Kennedy's children have come, and Kerry actually went through the front door (infested with press).
War with Iran is a forgone conclusion.
I read it as a small campaign that grew, added members, raised cash, grew...and so on.
Its a troll, it is not interested in a meaningful discussion of the issue it pretends to be concerned about. So it will continue to ignore that explanation.
Oh, I believe he knows what he's doing, CoT, and it's very well organized and well done. I just worry about centralization.
the concern level is very high, apparently.
Huh.
Molly Ivors | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 5:10 pm | #
don't worry. just sarcasm gone bad.
Many thousands of Dems across the country wanted to contribute to Obama after the speech he gave at the '04 convention.
When people donate $25, $50, or $100 at a time, it adds up fast.
I don't understand why this is such a big issue with some people. Personally, I think it is terrific and it shows the power of the individual voter.
Molly Ivors | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 5:13 pm
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Ahhh, a fellow New Yawka! I was born and semi raised in NYC but moved out west about 14 years ago. Damn I miss the city!
Don't the candidates have to reveal who contributes their campaigns? If that is true, how does one find it?
Jesus, more questions so more names and accusations can be thrown!
Come live in Michigan, where you vote doesn't count, unemployment is the highest in the country, and the state congresscritters would rather fight than switch.
Obama's early money came from the same place every other candidate gets their early money - bundlers, fundraisers, Wall Street and Silicon Valley. Obama also received a ton of Chicago money since he is the local and one of the Pritzkers is his finance chair. This money helped him "tie" Clinton in the money primary and campaign until his small donor/web based started to take off in the last quarter of 2007.
Twitterpated, even.
And, going to Paris, apparently!!!!! It could hardly happen to a nicer guy.
"War with Iran is a forgone conclusion."
Don't forget us!
Its a troll, it is not interested in a meaningful discussion of the issue it pretends to be concerned about. So it will continue to ignore that explanation.
Maybe..but I did get it to look something up.
My felicitations for the boy, then.
Molly, I presume you are posting on the lam, if jour hubby's blog-posts are to be believed.
que brava.
HuffPo has a funding page.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore,
What's your take on the vote count for your state. Will it happen and any idea as to how it will be finally done?
Don't the candidates have to reveal who contributes their campaigns? If that is true, how does one find it?
You know, Google is you friend and you might consider using it BEFORE you show up here and cast aspersions on the Democratic front-runner. Just saying.
Don't the candidates have to reveal who contributes their campaigns? If that is true, how does one find it?
Try the FEC. Try the campaign's site. Google about campaign and donors and disclosure.
Honestly, think. Please.
killfile is getting a real workout today,
What IS with this troll infestation last night and today???
They're like cockroaches coming out of the woodwork.
Omentum.
Its a troll,
Learn how to spell loser!
I don't understand why this is such a big issue with some people.
It isn't. the troll just happened to chose that topic to be "concerned" about.
I'm on the lam? Do tell.
I'm in my own living room while the toddlers splash merrily in the tub.
I can read Plush Life. I went to a blog I really love and gave up trying to read white letters on a purple background.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
The less said about the late lamented fafblog, the better, I supp...
Wait...
Holy crap!
Still got some purple in it...
This money helped him "tie" Clinton in the money primary and campaign until his small donor/web based started to take off in the last quarter of 2007.
what conspirarcy? | 05.17.08 - 5:15 pm | #
Obama's first, locally organized, visit to Austin generated 20,000 attendees. This was in Feb 2007
Which of these centrist Democrats got the nomination didn't matter that much.
Horseshit, Jay.
The less said about the late lamented fafblog, the better,
Ouch. That green gave me more headaches than I can count.
Molly,
perhaps joo had best check out Whiskey fire. I theenk that jour husband is pulling someone's leg, as they say.
Regarding the MI vote, it's tainted. You can't recapture the votes that took place on that day, because some Dems voted for Romney, some Repubs voted for Hillary, and another 45% of us couldn't vote for anyone. Write in votes weren't counted.
It can't be resolved honestly.
Hecate, I think you and your friends are the ones casting the aspersions.
Just sayin--
Freshmen Congressional reps don't have power and it will be interesting to see what compromises they make to acquire it.
What IS with this troll infestation last night and today???
They're like cockroaches coming out of the woodwork.
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 5:17 pm | #
They don't have even remotely legitimate mud to sling. They've fallen to just completely making shit up. Pathetic, really.
To hell with the troolz. Let them FORP.
Let's rock.
~
What IS with this troll infestation last night and today???
They're like cockroaches coming out of the woodwork.
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist
Fat, sleek, well-fed cacaroaches...
Culture of Truth: Finally, somebody is the voice of reason.
Hey trolls, don't you have errands to run--why can't you find something productive to do?
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 5:19 pm
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Glad to hear you agree. I don't see any way to resolve it all save for a new election which we know will NOT happen. However, it sounds like your state will do something come the 31st, no?
Which of these centrist Democrats got the nomination didn't matter that much.
Horseshit, Jay.
Stunt Woman | 05.17.08 - 5:18 pm | #
no kidding
Hecate, I think you and your friends are the ones casting the aspersions.
Does that mean that you have googled and have any basis for your shadowy assertions that someone "bankrolled" Obama's early campaign? Or does it just mean, as I suppose, that you've got nothing? I have a lot of patience, and I'm not a huge fan of Obama, but I'm just about done w you.
The trolls have been given certain talking points.
One is to end every post by saying "it's pretty funny how people react to the slightest criticism of Obama."
For me, I'm going to laugh it up all the way to the elections.
They don't have even remotely legitimate mud to sling. They've fallen to just completely making shit up. Pathetic, really.
left field, Nostra Dumbass
Fer crapsake, they don' need no stinkin' ligitimate anything. They're like the Yankees, all they gotta do is show up...
Regarding the MI vote, it's tainted.
Why is this even a topic of conversation anymore?
Oh yeah: because Hillary is an egomaniac idiot who still hasn't conceded.
They've fallen to just completely making shit up. Pathetic, really.
Yeah, like like their hero, Bush, used that bogus quote that Senator Borah never said.
el | 05.17.08 - 5:14 pm | #
Thank you.
What IS with this troll infestation last night and today???
They're like cockroaches coming out of the woodwork.
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist
Fat, sleek, well-fed cacaroaches...
Meanie-meanie, tickle a person
CAN someone living on Cheetos and KoolAid be sleek and well-fed?
Does that mean that you have googled and have any basis for your shadowy assertions that someone "bankrolled" Obama's early campaign?
If you need an example of what "bankrolling" actually looks like, you need look no further than the Republican candidate who, as I mentioned upthread, has been "bankrolled" by his drug addicted heiress trophy wife from day one.
CAN someone living on Cheetos and KoolAid be sleek and well-fed?
Oh no..I imagine pale and porcine.
i saw a guy take his wallet out of his pocket once and a comb at the same time and put it on the bank counter.
a cockroach was on his comb.
CAN someone living on Cheetos and KoolAid be sleek and well-fed?
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 5:24 pm
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Maybe not, but they can be awfully content. (Can you tell I like junk food?)
Yah, Terry they can unfortunately, it's the sugar and the fats they ingest.
Just ignore them--you can't educate the uneducable.
bankrolled by cindy
rolling like a pill
The trolls have been given certain talking points.
One is to end every post by saying "it's pretty funny how people react to the slightest criticism of Obama."
For me, I'm going to laugh it up all the way to the elections.
Culture of TrÜth
Then there's The Austin Dog Burner's little whine about anyone who criticizes Obama is called a racist.
No, just the people we know are racists.
juan,
That is just disgusting! What on earth did the teller do?
I missed this WaPo "Republicans in Crisis" article from yesterday.
This part is fun:
"We haven't hit bottom yet. I've never seen members so frustrated or demoralized," former House majority leader Tom DeLay (Tex.) said in an interview.
/sips cocktail, falls off couch laughing
a cockroach was on his comb.
juan ono | 05.17.08 - 5:25 pm | #
Wolfowitz
juan,
That is just disgusting! What on earth did the teller do?
Polly_Tics | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 5:26 pm | #
i dont know if the teller saw!
i think I took a half-step back
an egomaniac idiot who still hasn't conceded.
But enough about you.
By my count it's about a 52-48 split. Yes, Obama's on top and he'll take it, but for either of them to pretend the other half of the party doesn't exist is idiotic.
CAN someone living on Cheetos and KoolAid be sleek and well-fed?
Oh no..I imagine pale and porcine.
Anon
That pretty much sums up our trolls.
When Atrios dubbed them "The Stupidest Trolls on the Internet", they misunderstood a bit and started high-fiving each other, spreading a thick cloud of Cheeto dust everywhere, dancing and shouting 'we're number one', until they fell to pummeling each other insisting that it was, in fact, they who was number one and the other trolls were mere assistants. A protracted period of trollessness ensued, giving Atriots a false sense of relief. One troll let out a particularly well timed and stanky Cheeto fart that lulled the others into a dreamlike state wherein they accepted the designation Associate Trolls and the rest is history.
Wolfowitz
Bjorn, nonkosherjewforO | 05.17.08 - 5:27 pm | #
snack time!
Yeah, I must admit I am simply loving the Republican's distress; it is much deserved!
former House majority leader Tom DeLay (Tex.) said in an interview.
Is he a felon yet?
I've never been on the lam. I've been on the sheep, however.
my ex, the MD has had to pull cockroaches from people's ears.
By my count it's about a 52-48 split. Yes, Obama's on top and he'll take it, but for either of them to pretend the other half of the party doesn't exist is idiotic.
Either of them could be suing for peace at this point.
/waves to JeffCO from the floor
I hope you are finished, Hecate.
You know, Google is you friend and you might consider using it BEFORE you show up here and cast aspersions on the Democratic front-runner. Just saying.
Hecate,
Is this your fucking blog or what? You are unbearably arrogant. Perhaps you should do more googling instead of throwing shit around.
Just saying.
a cockroach was on his comb.
juan ono | 05.17.08 - 5:25 pm | #
Wolfowitz
Bjorn, nonkosherjewforO
Wolfowitz IS a cockroach!
okay. errands. see ya later.
By my count it's about a 52-48 split. Yes, Obama's on top and he'll take it, but for either of them to pretend the other half of the party doesn't exist is idiotic.
JeffCO | 05.17.08 - 5:27 pm | #
oh they have to make peace, negotiate and come to an understanding.
but it's a huge leap from that reality to say that it doesn't matter which 'centrist' democrat gets the nomination.
/sips cocktail, falls off couch laughing
/pours res yet another
I'm loving how Davis, from VA, who as good as lost his seat when his wife lost hers, has to be the one to say: Back away from Bush, my brothers! Back away from Bush!
Too late, Tom. Too late.
es, Obama's on top and he'll take it, but for either of them to pretend the other half of the party doesn't exist is idiotic.
What he said.
Wolfowitz IS a cockroach!
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 5:28 pm | #
You dishonor the memory of Gregor Samsa .
Tom "tar baby" Davis; ahh yes, what noble lawmakers they are, eh?
We haven't hit bottom yet. I've never seen members so frustrated or demoralized," former House majority leader Tom DeLay (Tex.) said in an interview.
/sips cocktail, falls off couch laughing
res ipsa loquitur
I'm SO enjoying watching the GOP circle the drain.
You dishonor the memory of Gregor Samsa .
Bjorn, nonkosherjewforO | 05.17.08 - 5:30 pm | #
heh.
i reread 'The Trial' last year.
/waves to JeffCO from the floor -res ipsa loquitur
I also think sporting events decided by less than a real world meaningful quantity are ties. I won't be judging any Olympic events anytime soon either. 2/10 of a second difference? They both get the gold!
I hope you are finished, Hecate.
You know, Google is you friend and you might consider using it BEFORE you show up here and cast aspersions on the Democratic front-runner. Just saying.
Hecate,
Is this your fucking blog or what? You are unbearably arrogant. Perhaps you should do more googling instead of throwing shit around.
Just saying.
You do some googling and get back to us, OK? And, yeah, everyone here knows what an arrogant, uppity bitch I am.
Electric Company STOP!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7...h?
v=7p08p2qBN80
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Hey Culture of Truth--where were you last evening when I was celebrating a certain milestone in my life? Not to worry, I saved some cake and champagne for you. (Not rot gut either). Piper Heidseck.
Back away from Bush, my brothers! Back away from Bush!
While McCain continues to have his lips glued to The Chimpster's ass.
heh.
i reread 'The Trial' last year.
juan ono | 05.17.08 - 5:31 pm | #
Did it end differently the second time?
We haven't hit bottom yet. I've never seen members so frustrated or demoralized," former House majority leader Tom DeLay (Tex.) said in an interview.
and after all that hard work they did on 'behalf' of the Marianas Island garment industry workers..........
I just don't want to think about Delay hitting anyone's bottom.
Looks like fafblog went to sleep in July '06, and woke up April Fools Day '08. Fitting, don't ya think?
I knew this cockroach once and this disgusting guy Wolfowitz once used his house to comb his hair!
Hecate,
Can Davis be defeated this fall?
I would like to see he and Patrick McHenry joint Vito Fossella in the GOP equivalent of Harry Hope's bar this fall.
And Haloscan: I will have my revenge. Trust me on this.
You do some googling and get back to us, OK? And, yeah, everyone here knows what an arrogant, uppity bitch I am.
And that's the way, uh huh, uh huh, we like it>
Electric Company STOP!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7...h? v=7p08p2qBN80
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QuentinCompson, Negatory | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 5:31 pm | #
OK - so who knows who Cowboy Curtis is?
This conversation is making me happy, very happy.
Did it end differently the second time?
Bjorn, nonkosherjewforO | 05.17.08 - 5:32 pm | #
heh.
I'd forgotten how brutal it was.
brutal and fast.
with men shirtless.
hmmmm........franz......what's up?
I just don't want to think about Delay hitting anyone's bottom.
JeffCO
As much as it pains me to quote Fascist Redneck Toby Keith:
I would SO like to put a boot in the Bugman's ass.
I don't think anyone could have predicted using trolls to attack female regulars.
Culture of Truth was with me, drinking a juniper-derived beverage and eating alums.
Hey Culture of Truth--where were you last evening when I was celebrating a certain milestone in my life?
I was hanging out with a bunch of wacky hippie Atriots, I believe.
I don't think anyone could have predicted using trolls to attack female regulars.
What a shocker!
McFossella!
I don't think anyone could have predicted using trolls to attack female regulars.
[shrugs.]
I'm just tired of it. I don't think I can make it until November.
Alums?
Culture of Truth was with me, drinking a juniper-derived beverage and eating alums.
res ipsa loquitur | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 5:34 pm | #
Were they cute?
Can Davis be defeated this fall?
I may be wrong, but I think that he's not going to run and I won't be at all surprised to see his seat go blue. Threw all his cred and most of his $$$$ into wifey's losing campaign this fall.
Davis is odd cuz he's, although a Puke, a rational human being. I think he blames Bush for the party's downfall and he sees his long-term political future bound up in telling the Pukes where they went wrong.
We haven't hit bottom yet. I've never seen members so frustrated or demoralized," former House majority leader Tom DeLay (Tex.) said in an interview.
/sips cocktail, falls off couch laughing
res ipsa loquitur | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 5:26 pm | #
I hope new new austin DA keeps working on the indictment.
(((Vicki!)))
There's always more friends than foes here.
Alums? Molly Ivors
Well that accounts for the funny voices.
Your music in one minute
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w...h?
v=wmQNWxM_6Mo
John Hagee endorses mc CAIN
As a general rule sisterhood is powerful, but let me caution those who dare to do it here, the sisters on this blog are a force. I've met them. Don't fuck with us.
I don't think anyone could have predicted using trolls to attack female regulars.
JeffCO
Thank heaven for killfile.
It makes me laugh how, whenever they attack female regulars, it's always cracks about weight.
This, remember, from the same crowd who thinks an emaciated skank (Coulter) is "hot."
And for that fat Tranny Aggie, Butler/mimi/annie, to call anyone fat....what a joke!
Bjorn
Sorry, I mean alliums. As in deep-friend alliums.
simels regrets (although he enjoyed some, too).
Lawrence Fishburne:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g...h?v=gWI-
5b2MHNI
Don't fuck with us.
I love you. Seriously. Thanks for the links!
Mark my words, Patrick McHenry WILL get nailed in some type of scandal--he's such a little weasel and he is going to get nailed but good. I really believe he will be one of the next Repuke scandals--he and his closeted gay pals.
Okay, I'll make it to November in honor of your birthday, Molly.
I don't know how you guys teach. The stupid would drive me crazy. I know, there're lots of good ones, too, but still.
Is this your fucking blog or what? You are unbearably arrogant. Perhaps you should do more googling instead of throwing shit around.
Hey, Wary? You...uh...you look good in green? Just askin'...
reality check
You people aren't even honest enough to admit who is attacking who?
OK - so who knows who Cowboy Curtis is?
Bjorn, nonkosherjewforO
Lawrence Fishburne.
Wary,
I'll bite, who are you attacking?
You know, I was showing my students part of the YouTube of Colbert at the WH Correspondent's dinner in 06 as part of a lesson on satire.
Did you know Lawrence Fishburne was in the audience? *He* was laughing.
I owe Bjorn a drink.
hey peeps (trolls excluded)
My pleasure, Molly.
i'm willing to bet that of the '66' visitors
ten are govt computers
ten are advertising/marketing experts
three are foreign agents
ten are sociology students
ten are curious
23 are posting
What certain milestone - birthday?
I owe Bjorn a drink.
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 5:40 pm | #
I'd rather eat an alum.
the sisters on this blog are a force. I've met them. Don't fuck with us.
They are led by the shadowy and mysterious Liz Estrada.
Back from graduating students. Had one student from my lab get her masters and another get her Ph.D. today.
The MS student carried her 12 week old twins across the stage.
Did you know Lawrence Fishburne was in the audience? *He* was laughing.
On the day of that dinner I was walking around uptown and I saw Fishburne and this very beautiful woman come out of an apartment building and get in a limo. They were both dressed to the nines and looking good. I said to my friend, "I wonder if they are going to DC for the dinner" and -- lo and behold -- there they were. They must have been getting in a car to go to Teeterboro for a plane.
Hey noblejoanie,
My company had its first pilot-site GO LIVE with Epic on May 1st.
Considering the complicated nature of the process, it went remarkably well.
Epic is truly a model company. I'll be back in Madison in Sept.
They are led by the shadowy and mysterious Liz Estrada.
On the day of that dinner I was walking around uptown and I saw Fishburne and this very beautiful woman come out of an apartment building and get in a limo. They were both dressed to the nines and looking good. I said to my friend, "I wonder if they are going to DC for the dinner" and -- lo and behold -- there they were. They must have been getting in a car to go to Teeterboro for a plane.
ah, the good life
We are imaginary. Ignore us.
Did you know Lawrence Fishburne was in the audience? *He* was laughing.
Shit, he thought he was still in Saigon.
Congratulations, Vicki! The Google of the Midwest is a well-run company. Let me know when you'll be returning!
the sisters on this blog are a force. I've met them. Don't fuck with us.
Sounds like a bunch of tiny insecure children on a power trip.
res,
HGe's married to the gorgeous Gina Torres, of Firefly.
Wary | 05.17.08 - 5:43 pm
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Oh come on now, that is just plain silly...
She was also in "I Think I Love My Wife," which wasn't as good as it should have been.
I cut the lawn today. I would love to go all Moe and get rid of it, but the kids and dogs would object.
and one is madeleine albright eating her traditional weekend bowl of salt
SPeaking of Cowboy Curtis, I get a kick out of the fact that S. Epatha Merkerson
from "Law and Order" was Reba the Mail Lady.
Now that I think about it, Fishburne Apocalypse would be an excellent name for Jason Schwartzman's next band.
HGe's married to the gorgeous Gina Torres, of Firefly.
Googled her. That was the lady. They were looking fab.
Ted Kennedy is up & speaking. His condition is serious, but not life-threatening.
I saw Sweeney Todd last night and it was simply wonderful! Besides loving Depp, the visuals and lyrics were unique and oddly intimate. It was one of my favorite movies in the last few months.
I would love to go all Moe and get rid of it, but the kids and dogs would object.
Also known as "zeroscaping."
Ted Kennedy is up & speaking. His condition is serious, but not life-threatening.
Molly Ivors
If he pronounces Cuba as Cuber he'll be OK.
Molly Ivors,
Now THAT is good to hear!
Ted Kennedy is up & speaking. His condition is serious, but not life-threatening.
Molly Ivors
That news makes my heart glad.
Davis is odd cuz he's, although a Puke, a rational human being. I think he blames Bush for the party's downfall and he sees his long-term political future bound up in telling the Pukes where they went wrong.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 5:36 pm | #
A fitting punishment. The pukes will blame the messenger.
~
If he pronounces Cuba as Cuber he'll be OK.
Gomez
Particularly if he does so with "vigah".
I went to Freeperville to see what they were saying about Teddy Kennedy and virtually every third post had been redacted.
I simply don't buy the "well, they hate each other so it won't happen" stuff. I do deals every week w parties who hate each other. Put enough $$$ or power on the table and people will do deals with the devil in the pale moonlight. I've seen deals w folks who wanted to salt each other's land work out when there was enough on the table.
sadly, US leftie politics has for 30 years or more been about leaving the money on the table and turning down a good deal because the punctuation was not acceptable or the "above the fold" comments that have no actual effect were in dispute.
Howard Dean's election to the DNC was the first sign of change.
The MS student carried her 12 week old twins across the stage.
Gromit made me cry.
noblejoanie, I just figured out who you are on Facebook. Sorry to be such a dolt.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 5:36 pm
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Tom Davis recently referred to Obama as a tar baby. Is that really "centrist"? Why is a man like that considered a moderate?
"In my day" (oh, aren't I old) anyone who said something like that would have been labeled a right wing cretin.
Epic is truly a model company. I'll be back in Madison in Sept.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 5:42 pm |
Electronic Medical Records?
I cut the lawn today. I would love to go all Moe and get rid of it, but the kids and dogs would object.
trifecta | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 5:45 pm | #
Moe ain't gonna mow no mo.
~
Obama's on top and he'll take it, but for either of them to pretend the other half of the party doesn't exist is idiotic.
That's what I was saying. Hillary is an egomaniac idiot who acts as if the other half of the party doesn't exist.
You know the other half I'm talking about? It's the bigger half.
Anyway, I do look forward to the day that an intelligent and respectable woman will lead the country. I'm sure you do, too.
"I see Laurence Fishburne is in the audience. Hello sir! Like our President, a Vietnam war hero. Did you know he lied about his age to make the movie Apocolypse Now? Amazing. Remember Mr. President, there is no spoon. No, we're not having soup. Never mind."
Culture of TrUth: Your off the hook--sounds like you were in great company!!! I love your blog. When will you be updating it?
I have told many of my friends about it and they love it. After I win Powerball or Megamillions, I'll send you a few scheckels (also Atrios, but that goes without saying).
Did you happen to follow the Bayou case that just ended with the sentencing of one of the scumbags that perpetrated the whole damn mess? Well, sadly, I was one of the scammed.
The MS student carried her 12 week old twins across the stage.
Gromit made me cry
It was very touching, and perked up the audience in the middle of a long, long ceremony. And I got to hold them afterwards (one at a time).
I went to Freeperville to see what they were saying about Teddy Kennedy and virtually every third post had been redacted.
res ipsa loquitur
I'm not surprised.
Those people are the scum of the earth.
Vicki and noblejoanie, My birthday is in september. Maybe I can buy you both a drink to celebrate.
Hey Gomez,
Audrey and I are going to a Japanese steak house. I'm craving that ShoGun action we had last weekend.
And she's in bliss because she gets to have sushi!
I should be cooking. I've been as lazy as a goat today.
Buckeye,
Yep.
Epic is the best.
You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy...
I suppose we should all get used to people using all kinds of racist language, but I have such a short fuse when it comes to this stuff. I am quite sure the Repub's WILL do what they do best which is to smear and insinuate all kinds of fear inundated with racial touches.
This is NOT going to be an easy election year...
dmark,
Sure!
Hey now, goats work very hard. Don't be put off by their gruff exteriors.
You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy...
res ipsa loquitur | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 5:53 pm | #
Redstate again?
Tom Davis recently referred to Obama as a tar baby. Is that really "centrist"? Why is a man like that considered a moderate?
"In my day" (oh, aren't I old) anyone who said something like that would have been labeled a right wing cretin.
Polly_Tics
In today's GOP, Davis is what they consider a moderate.
In reality, he IS a right wing cretin.
AND a racist creep.
I generally update Bobblespeak on Sunday or for 60 minutes or Doug Feith appears anywhere. He is comedy gold.
Culture of Truth will be updated more now that I've settled into my new job. Tiger will be making frequent appearances soon.