OT: Ten Guantanamo Bay detainees have been freed and returned home to Saudi Arabia, US and Saudi officials say.
The government in Riyadh will mitigate any risk posed by the former detainees with a programme to integrate them into civilian life, the Pentagon says.
Around 275 people remain at the detention centre in Cuba and the Pentagon says another 60 inmates are now eligible for transfer or release.
The US has returned dozens of Saudi former detainees over the past year.
$3 billion ain't much, really.
Moe, tree killing fairy |
12.29.07 - 10:09 am | #
From Below--
My dream POTUS would gather US jewish leaders together and forge a new (tough) relationship with Israel. Require it to live up to UN and roadmap agreements as conditions for US support.
why aren't dem candidates using big shitpile as another W assministrations bullshit economic strategy?
if i were running, big shitpile would come out of my mouth every stump speech:
"in the 80's the republicans brought us the S&L disaster, in the 21st century they bring us the sub-prime disaster. it is tough for me to see why we would want more of this lack of leadership in our presidency"
mogwai, cloud 9 dweller |
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12.29.07 - 10:09 am | #
why, that would be incivil mogwai!
r€nato, like a virgin |
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12.29.07 - 10:10 am | #
Boys in nursery schools should not be discouraged from playing with toy guns and other weapons, the government says.
In guidance for nurseries in England, the Department for Children, Schools and Families says staff should resist a "natural instinct" to stop such play.
It says role playing helps create the right conditions for boys' learning and could help them become more engaged in education in the future.
Teachers have condemned the advice, saying toy guns "symbolise aggression".
How is that legal?
SteveNS |
12.29.07 - 10:10 am | #
OT: Ten Guantanamo Bay detainees have been freed and returned home to Saudi Arabia, US and Saudi officials say.
news: it's not for americans anymore...seriously, this story will be BURIED on page 99
mogwai, cloud 9 dweller |
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12.29.07 - 10:10 am | #
why, that would be incivil mogwai!
r€nato, like a virgin | Homepage | 12.29.07 - 10:10 am | #
And it would violate the requirement that Democratic candidates stay on defense, apologizing and qualifying to make sure everyone knows they are strong.
rootless-e |
12.29.07 - 10:11 am | #
if i were running, big shitpile would come out of my mouth every stump speech:
Cuz it ain't nice proper polite talk.
warondandruff |
12.29.07 - 10:11 am | #
do you have a little Capt. Drake in you?
look out tomato |
12.29.07 - 10:11 am | #
I am suspending withdrawals from my asset pool. I try to profit from microeconomic trends like selling my labor for currency. I tried to work with my landlord to voluntarily rescind his request, but I could not get his cooperation.
underwhelm |
12.29.07 - 10:12 am | #
Hedge funds are risky.
Econ 102 |
12.29.07 - 10:12 am | #
"After printing 20,000 copies and spending more than $100,000 on promotion, he says, he has seen the book sell 500 copies in two months"
might be a collectable. i got one
jdw |
12.29.07 - 10:13 am | #
I'll vote for Obama if he is the nominee. But I predict that he'll be at least as disappointing a figure as Harry Reid has been.
Tralfaz |
12.29.07 - 10:13 am | #
LLC. Gives them a pass on lots of things.
Moe, tree killing fairy |
12.29.07 - 10:13 am | #
Because the Dems are owned lock, stock, and barrel by the corporations (same as the Republicans) and they cannot go against their masters' wishes: so they will never abide by the people's wishes. . . ever.
(If you doubt this, look into the strange history of Debbie Wasserman-Schultz)
DWD |
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12.29.07 - 10:13 am | #
Don't you wish that the assholes who manage this fund would at least be forced to spend the rest of their lives in poverty after losing such a collossal sum and bilking all their investors? You just know that they're all still somehow going to walk away with a hefty chunk of that billion.....
blerb, just baked |
12.29.07 - 10:14 am | #
Global Opportunities Fund, which tries to profit from macroeconomic trends by trading bonds, stocks, currencies and commodities.
Christ, I'm a better investor than these clowns.
Culture of TrÜth |
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12.29.07 - 10:14 am | #
I'll vot for Obama if he comes clean on that sex change operation
look out tomato |
12.29.07 - 10:15 am | #
Because the Dems are owned lock, stock, and barrel by the corporations (same as the Republicans) and they cannot go against their masters' wishes: so they will never abide by the people's wishes. . . ever.
Which is why I like Edwards. He wants a showdown, which is what it will take.
MP |
12.29.07 - 10:15 am | #
Non-profits are corporations.
Econ 102 |
12.29.07 - 10:15 am | #
Pakistan drifted deeper into turmoil yesterday with two men sharing the helm: the president, Pervez Musharraf, and the general he appointed to take his place at the head of the army, Ashfaq Kiyani.
The ever-voluble Musharraf occupies centre stage in Islamabad but it is his tight-lipped protege who arguably holds more power in the crisis unfolding in the wake of Benazir Bhutto's assassination.
When Musharraf tearfully handed over his chief of staff's baton to Kiyani on November 28, he was not just surrendering his rank, he was also giving up his main political constituency, the army.
Article continues
Musharraf insists his heart still belonged to the military, but it is not a sentimental organisation. Without attending general staff meetings, he can no longer wield direct control over the armed forces' collective thoughts and actions.
Seeking a new source of legitimacy, Musharraf had hoped to strike a political bargain with Bhutto's Pakistan Peoples party (PPP). But with Bhutto dead and the PPP in disarray, Kiyani could well be the stronger man. He leads Pakistan's most powerful institution which, whether he embraces the role or not, makes him the country's kingmaker.
why, that would be incivil mogwai!
r€nato, like a virgin | Homepage | 12.29.07 - 10:10 am | #
And it would violate the requirement that Democratic candidates stay on defense, apologizing and qualifying to make sure everyone knows they are strong.
rootless-e
moron dem candidates forget who their base is: left-leaning folks who need to hear the Liberal red-meat they want...there is nothing wrong in speaking reality and truth, especially when it has to do with economy and how the right fucks with everyone who isn't rich...see: clinton 1992 and "it's the economy, stupid"
that worked cause Bill spoke to common folk who were struggling, not to millionaires...and many equate this slogan with Bill winning...Edwards is closest, but he is long-winded and his passion is not focused
mogwai, cloud 9 dweller |
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12.29.07 - 10:15 am | #
Hey, guys! Let's close all the banks! We'll call it a 'Bank Holiday'!
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian |
12.29.07 - 10:15 am | #
Hey Moonbootica, that Norfolk Blogger guy is ok.
So many have said that Bhutto was the best chance for democracy in Pakistan. This may well have been correct, but it is an indictment of the dearth of good democrats in Pakistan.
Lenore |
12.29.07 - 10:16 am | #
Non-profits are corporations.
Yes and particularly responsible for all kinds of Republican hell that has descended upon us.
warondandruff |
12.29.07 - 10:16 am | #
After five years in solitary confinement in Guantánamo Bay and nine months in prison in his home country, David Hicks, the Australian Taliban, was released from prison early this morning.
The 32-year-old, who had been convicted of supporting terrorism, did not speak to the media after emerging from Yatala prison in Adelaide, saying in a statement read by his lawyer that he was not "strong enough" to speak publicly.
He said he owed the Australian public a debt of gratitude for having him returned home from the US military's detention centre in Cuba last year. "I will not forget or let you down," he said in the statement.
And it would violate the requirement that Democratic candidates stay on defense, apologizing and qualifying to make sure everyone knows they are strong.
rootless-e
ahhh the party of Uriah Heep
Liars for Bush |
12.29.07 - 10:18 am | #
Because the Dems are owned lock, stock, and barrel by the corporations (same as the Republicans) and they cannot go against their masters' wishes: so they will never abide by the people's wishes. . . ever.
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that's harsh, DWD. Maybe there's something TO this raising corporate megabucks as premier campaign worthiness test.
el |
12.29.07 - 10:18 am | #
I'm appalled by the weak analysis in Lambert's post.
rootless-e |
12.29.07 - 10:18 am | #
The Bush administration was yesterday hurriedly trying to find a Plan B for Pakistan after the assassination of Benazir Bhutto.
US officials based in Pakistan were sounding out senior members of her opposition Pakistan People's party about a possible successor. They were also in contact with members of the other main opposition party, the Pakistan Muslim League, led by Nawaz Sharif, even though the US had previously opposed his return to Pakistan because of links between his party and Islamist extremists.
President George Bush called for the election to go ahead, though he avoided mention of whether Pakistan should stick to the January 8 timetable. An announcement on whether to delay the election has been left until the end of the three days of mourning.
Asked whether the US was confident that Pakistan could stage an election in January, the US state department spokesman, Tom Casey, said: "Well, we're going to see what happens."
The assassination of Bhutto has thrown into disarray Bush administration hopes of establishing a degree of security in Pakistan. Since 9/11, Bush has relied on the military-run government of President Pervez Musharraf as an ally in the fight against the Taliban and al-Qaida. With Musharraf's loss of popularity, the administration placed its hopes on a return to democracy and the emergence of a Musharraf-Bhutto coalition.
US intelligence analysts warned that al-Qaida, which has a hold in Pakistan's tribal areas - where the US believes Osama bin Laden is hiding - and in cities such as Karachi would be strengthened by the chaos in the aftermath of the assassination.
Getting bondholders to consent to change terms on indentures is part of what I do for a living.
And I'm fucking bored with it.
HoneyBearKelly |
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12.29.07 - 10:19 am | #
The mantra on CNBC will be "we need a rate cut now!!!" while no one will consider a bail out for the individual homeowner cause "its their fault for not knowing better"
No one will mention the contradiction.
GP |
12.29.07 - 10:19 am | #
modern dem party: "we only win when the fascist policies of the right get soo entangled that even the dumbest among us see it"
mogwai, cloud 9 dweller |
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12.29.07 - 10:19 am | #
Getting elected president is a game. You have to play that game in certain ways and you can almost never look good doing it. I like to think that HRC will be a different president than what she looks like when she is running. She will hopefully return to fighting for the causes she fought for in Arkansas and when she was First Lady. A lot of this has to be done behind the scenes.
Tralfaz |
12.29.07 - 10:20 am | #
Maybe there's something TO this raising corporate megabucks as premier campaign worthiness test.
Like what?
warondandruff |
12.29.07 - 10:20 am | #
Recently read Wiki's article on J.D. Rockefeller. He found ways to market the by-products of kerosene refinement. His competitors were dumping it into the rivers, because there was no immediate market for it.
That by-product? Gasoline.
MP |
12.29.07 - 10:20 am | #
We're sorry, we seem to have misplaced your money. Could you please withdraw your request to get your money while we attempt to locate and recover it.
Snow, Liberal |
12.29.07 - 10:20 am | #
Which is why I like Edwards. He wants a showdown, which is what it will take.
Edwards? Eh, he's fine. (notice lack of enthusiasm).
Hillary = Wall Street and the Military/Industrial Complex.
Yes and particularly responsible for all kinds of Republican hell that has descended upon us.
warondandruff
Hey! Am not neither!
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian |
12.29.07 - 10:22 am | #
We're sorry, we seem to have misplaced your money. Could you please withdraw your request to get your money while we attempt to locate and recover it.
Big Shitpile = Jiffy Park
American public = George Constanza
SteveNS |
12.29.07 - 10:22 am | #
Good morning.
I just read this story in Business Week about credit card companies trying to collect on debts after people declared bankruptcy.
That "debt selling" business is seriously fucked up.
Zap Rowsdower |
Homepage |
12.29.07 - 10:22 am | #
She will hopefully return to fighting for the causes she fought for in Arkansas and when she was First Lady.
She'll kick a lot of people off welfare, export American manufacturing jobs and force globalization down the throats of Latin Americans, *again*?
Moe, tree killing fairy |
12.29.07 - 10:22 am | #
moron dem candidates forget who their base is: left-leaning folks who need to hear the Liberal red-meat they want...
[..]
mogwai, cloud 9 dweller | Homepage | 12.29.07 - 10:15 am | #
I don't even think it's that. The legislative record of the Democratic congress shows that they are incapable of even attempting to set the agenda. They simply react to the points generated by the thugs and the thug media.
I think a significant part of the republican voting bloc would be interested in hearing about how the congressional repugs wanted to give social security to Wall Street and are now going to bail out wall street again.
rootless-e |
12.29.07 - 10:22 am | #
It's almost enough to vote foe Nader
You mean Mike Gravel.
Barndog, not fishing |
12.29.07 - 10:22 am | #
Obama wants to "reach out" to the other side.
Does he fail to realize that they don't want to be reached?
They want to continue to keep their boots on our necks.
I'm not ready to make nice.
HoneyBearKelly |
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12.29.07 - 10:22 am | #
foe goodness sakes!
look out tomato |
12.29.07 - 10:22 am | #
Amusing to listen to people start up the "They're all the same" spiel. They are not.
Marcellina |
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12.29.07 - 10:23 am | #
Big Shitpile = Jiffy Park
American public = George Constanza
Heh.
When do we get to drive the Mary Kay car? Or, at least, get a free t-shirt?
Zap Rowsdower |
Homepage |
12.29.07 - 10:23 am | #
It's almost enough to vote foe Nader.
Yeah, that worked on really well in 2000 didn't it?
GP |
12.29.07 - 10:23 am | #
Like what?
warondandruff
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like proving DWD's POINT.
/look, there's a boobie!
el |
12.29.07 - 10:23 am | #
The assassination of Bhutto has thrown into disarray Bush administration hopes of establishing a degree of security in Pakistan. Since 9/11, Bush has relied on the military-run government of President Pervez Musharraf as an ally in the fight against the Taliban and al-Qaida.
I thought that the removal of Mushy's uniform would be a mistake. But Dumbya insisted on it.
Lime Rickey |
12.29.07 - 10:23 am | #
I always get all emotional when a pundit says "Well, we're going to see what happens."
Lenore |
12.29.07 - 10:23 am | #
The commander of a pro-Taliban group in Pakistan has told news agencies by phone that Baitullah Mehsud, another pro-Taliban figure, denies any involvement in Benazir Bhutto's death.
Maulana Omar said on Saturday: "He [Mehsud] had no involvement in this attack. This is a conspiracy of the government, army and intelligence agencies."
A Pakistani official had said on Friday it had evidence that Mehsud was responsible for the death of Bhutto, a former prime minister.
Javed Cheema, an interior ministry spokesman, said: "We have intelligence intercepts indicating that al-Qaeda leader Baitullah Mehsud is behind her assassination."
The Associated Press
Guest lineup for the Sunday TV news shows:
ABC's "This Week" - Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., and John McCain, R-Ariz.
CBS' "Face the Nation" - Former Sen. John Edwards, D-N.C.
NBC's "Meet the Press" - Former Gov. Mike Huckabee, R-Ark., and Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill.
CNN's "Late Edition" - Sens. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., and Joe Biden, D-Del.; former Sen. Sam Nunn, D-Ga.; former Defense Secretary William Cohen.
"Fox News Sunday" - Former Sen. Fred Thompson, R-Tenn.
portia |
12.29.07 - 10:24 am | #
Obama wants to "reach out" to the other side.
Does he fail to realize that they don't want to be reached?
They want to continue to keep their boots on our necks.
I'm not ready to make nice.
HoneyBearKelly | Homepage | 12.29.07 - 10:22 am | #
This is just wrong. Obama says that he wants to reach out to Republican voters and that Republican operatives in DC probably don't want to listen.
rootless-e |
12.29.07 - 10:25 am | #
ABC's "This Week" - Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., and John McCain, R-Ariz.
This myth that Chimpy has been preaching that corporations represent the best and most efficient possible use of resources, and that we need to just leave them alone to do their thing, is just fucking unbelievable, after all we've been through with corporate abuse.
MP |
12.29.07 - 10:25 am | #
When do we get to drive the Mary Kay car? Or, at least, get a free t-shirt?
Jiffy Park using George's car as a whorehouse is also an applicable metaphor for the whole mess.
SteveNS |
12.29.07 - 10:26 am | #
Any one else and I may as well vote for Nader.
underwhelm |
12.29.07 - 10:27 am | #
hurriedly trying to find a Plan B
jesusfuckingchrist. i know this isn't surprising that this administration has done no further planning other than to assume that bhutto would have been successful, but it's still amazing to see it played out again and again in such a volatile country.
but then, it's not a bug, it's a feature...
nona |
12.29.07 - 10:29 am | #
I thought that the removal of Mushy's uniform would be a mistake. But Dumbya insisted on it.
See what a little, ahem, "aid", will do for a country?
Mushy may as well be from Managua.
Zap Rowsdower |
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12.29.07 - 10:29 am | #
It is quite possible to simultaneously believe that Benazir Bhutto's career was considerably less perfect than her public image, and also that her assassination is likely to have nothing but bad consequences for Pakistan and quite a few other places. I say this because you'd be surprised; opinion has already broken between uncritical Diana-isation by the mainstream media, politics, and large chunks of the blogosphere ranging all the way from angry feminists to Michelle Malkin, and cynical dismissal from the professionally snarky.
Let's pause and consider the political dynamics; the PPP was about the only political organisation in Pakistan with real popular support or public participation, and it looks very like it's going to die. (There's a rundown of no fewer than eight possible candidates here.) The organisation has declared 40 days of mourning, which can be read as 40 days of desperately trying to work out what to do and fighting over the bloody shawl. Nawaz Sharif is trying to muscle in on the role of popular opponent of the army regime; this is only going to make it worse.
This is just wrong. Obama says that he wants to reach out to Republican voters and that Republican operatives in DC probably don't want to listen.
There is the hardcore 30% that will never ever vote Dem.
That's just a fact.
Forget about them.
Concentrate on the people that will vote for you and for an agenda that makes some fucking sense and is in the best interest of the country.
Republicans are not interested in any of that.
They want things like tax cuts and more defense spending. WTF?
This country's infrastructure is going down the tubes. Healthcare is going to destroy our economy. Global climate change is coming to a town near you.
That's what we need to concentrate on.
HoneyBearKelly |
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12.29.07 - 10:31 am | #
She'll concentrate on health care and education.
By bringing the insurance companies that are the source of the problem into the supposed "solution" and, no doubt, by expanding such policies as NCLB, privatized schools, etc.
Moe, tree killing fairy |
12.29.07 - 10:31 am | #
The upshot is that the entire southern half of the country and a significant chunk of the big cities will be effectively disenfranchised; Sharif and Musharraf will be competing for the Punjab, and worse still, for the military. Only Zia was closer to the ISI, the jihadis and the Saudis than Nawaz Sharif; we're talking about the chap who (despite not being terribly devout) considered declaring sharia law and sent actual troops (rather than secret aid) to help the Taliban hold Kabul in 1998 when the Northerners retook the Shomali plain. An underreported feature of the current crisis is the Saudi lobbying campaign for him.
The elections might not now happen - probably for the best, as with Sharif boycotting and the PPP in a state of collapse, the only possible outcome would be a risibly unrepresentative cocktail of the Musharraf fanclub and NWFP religious nutters. However, the not-general would probably quite like such an outcome - it couldn't possibly work with 60+ per cent of the population excluded, but it would permit him to indulge his loathing of Nawaz Sharif and politicians generally and also appear to Stand Up For Democracy. Theatre is an under-remarked factor in his career.
i know this isn't surprising that this administration has done no further planning other than to assume that bhutto would have been successful, but it's still amazing to see it played out again and again in such a volatile country.
The least they could have done is encourage Blackwater to accept the contract to provide her with protection.
Snow, Liberal |
12.29.07 - 10:31 am | #
From Lambert:
But wait, say the fans, you don’t really understand; what Obama wants to do is bring “Republican and independent voters outside of Washington” into the fold, and that will give us the leverage we need for real change. And if this were true, I would have expected to see enough calls from these Republican and independent voters to prevent children from dying because Bush vetoed S-CHIP, to take but one example of many. Ditto FISA (See Appendix II). Didn’t happen. Na ga happen
Go ahead, reach out to them. All you'll get back is a bloody nub. Republican voters approve of what bush and company have done. If they could vote for him again they would. They are unreachable.
Neponset |
12.29.07 - 10:31 am | #
why assume the average Republican (not incl. the top 1%, Bush's real "base") feels the party leadership is any more responsive to them than we feel the Dems are?
nick carraway |
12.29.07 - 10:32 am | #
Meanwhile, you want fourth-generation warfare? We got it. Just not in the usual form; you know your network's been disrupted when you ask the telco what's broken and they tell you the mob sacked the exchange and torched the SDH fibre transceivers.
As far as the assassinology of it goes, I'll confine myself to pointing out that the M.O. was identical to the first attempt on the day of her return - gunfire, and then a suicide bomb. I've not heard of this sequence anywhere else (usually it's a bomb and then snipers in the smouldering aftermath). There are all kinds of options for "whodunnit?" - both at the level of whichever bunch of jihadis were recruited to do the job, and who recruited them. Obviously, anyone who wants Pakistan to be semichaotic and the special role of the spooks to continue benefited; this includes half the world, as far as I can work out. Meanwhile, the British brigade in Helmand's main supply route is still via Karachi.
Republican voters approve of what bush and company have done. If they could vote for him again they would.
The only self-identifying republicans these days are Bush republicans. It's pretty clear that they've driven out all the sane, rational people.
underwhelm |
12.29.07 - 10:33 am | #
If corporations are so damned untouchably efficient over gummint, why does the gummint have to insure bank deposits against manangement fuckups?
Why was the gummint called on to bail out Chrysler? And Silverado?
MP |
12.29.07 - 10:34 am | #
A sense of foreboding and anxiety hung over British mosques as members of the country's Pakistani community gathered for Friday prayers yesterday. "The future is very dark at the moment," said one worshipper as he made his way into the Makka mosque in Bolton, Greater Manchester. "No one knows what is going to happen."
His words were echoed outside the central mosque in Birmingham. "Pakistan's future position is dark now, because we have lost a leader," said Rabnawaz Chughtai. "[Benazir Bhutto] always talked about democracy and I think that is needed in the world now to make peace. We need democracy back into Pakistan.
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"We have lost her, but there are more leaders who can hopefully combat that and bring the democracy back."
Almost all worshippers, whatever their political allegiances, said Pakistan desperately needed stability. "This is a terrible thing," said Talib Hussain in Bolton. "She was fighting for democracy. She was my hope for Pakistan and she would have got my vote. It seems like it's going to be civil war there now. No one is listening to anyone."
Many of the men had watched news reports on Pakistani television stations and been in contact with family members as Ms Bhutto's funeral went ahead.
why assume the average Republican (not incl. the top 1%, Bush's real "base") feels the party leadership is any more responsive to them than we feel the Dems are?
Because Republican policies have resulted in their wealth increasing to an obscene degree?
SteveNS |
12.29.07 - 10:34 am | #
why assume the average Republican (not incl. the top 1%, Bush's real "base") feels the party leadership is any more responsive to them than we feel the Dems are?
Because these are the same shitkickers that are convinced that the fact that hedge fund managers paying only 15% tax on their income somehow improves their lives.
HoneyBearKelly |
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12.29.07 - 10:34 am | #
why assume the average Republican (not incl. the top 1%, Bush's real "base") feels the party leadership is any more responsive to them than we feel the Dems are?
I honestly think that the Repub's "base" doesn't give a shit who's running their party; so long as they're feeding them the "Guns, Gays, & God" gospel.
And dollars to donuts they couldn't tell you who's in charge of the RNC, etc. They're incapable of any kind of independent thought.
Zap Rowsdower |
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12.29.07 - 10:34 am | #
By bringing the insurance companies that are the source of the problem into the supposed "solution" and, no doubt, by expanding such policies as NCLB, privatized schools, etc.
Moe
Get used to insurance companies in some form. Unfortunately they are here to stay. NCLB and privatization will not fare well under HRC. Educators will have a strong voice and these are the two main issues for them (us).
Tralfaz |
12.29.07 - 10:35 am | #
There is the hardcore 30% that will never ever vote Dem.
That's just a fact.
Forget about them.
Concentrate on the people that will vote for you and for an agenda that makes some fucking sense and is in the best interest of the country.
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HoneyBearKelly | Homepage | 12.29.07 - 10:31 am | #
I agree with you. But there are a lot of people who vote republican on brand image of "fiscal responsible, tough minded foreign policy, pro middle class" even though, of course, they are in reality nothing of the sort. Obama's argument is that he can reach out to those people by negating the power of the "guns god gays" strategy of the thugs. I dunno if he can, but that's his claim.
rootless-e |
12.29.07 - 10:35 am | #
CNN:
"The Straight Talk Express is
in New Hampshire"
Culture of TrÜth |
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12.29.07 - 10:35 am | #
Because these are the same shitkickers that are convinced that the fact that hedge fund managers paying only 15% tax on their income somehow improves their lives.
Hey, I might one day become a hedge fund manager and become wealthy beyond my wildest dreams. Prove I won't.
joe q. ranknfilegooper |
12.29.07 - 10:36 am | #
The least they could have done is encourage Blackwater to accept the contract to provide her with protection.
Snow, Liberal
You'd want to read the fine print in that baby.
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QuentinCompson |
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12.29.07 - 10:37 am | #
I know too many people who would still call themselves Republicans but aren't happy with Bush... and they *ain't* gonna vote for the Dem no matter what.
Myself, I hope Obama doesn't actually believe what he says. 'cause if he does, and he gets elected, he will get his ass handed to him in short order.
nick carraway |
12.29.07 - 10:37 am | #
How was the trip to Toronto, Moe? Walk? Bike?
Econ 102 |
12.29.07 - 10:37 am | #
Big business interests whose profits depend on direct subsidies and protections from the state are, in fact, a part of the state. If Marx was right in calling the state "the executive committee of the ruling class"--and I think he was--then the owners and managers of the corporate economy make up the lion's share of that ruling class. Corporate directors and senior management from the state capitalist sector constantly shuffle, in classic revolving door style, into political appointments in the state apparatus and then back to "private" employment.
Get used to insurance companies in some form. Unfortunately they are here to stay.
Funny how I don't have to deal with all this "mandated insurance" and such. It is true that my provincial government hires out the collective insurance pool-- to Blue Cross, which here is still a non-profit-- but the obscene insurance industry policies and profits south of the border are not an issue.
You see, a comprehensive and relatively inexpensive universal health insurance program exists just north of the border, and yet you Americans have convinced yourselves that there's no solution that doesn't cave in to the big insurance companies. "Get used to it..." because, well, because.
Moe, tree killing fairy |
12.29.07 - 10:39 am | #
FU sheets
joe q. ranknfilegooper |
12.29.07 - 10:39 am | #
"The Straight Talk Express is
in New Hampshire"
Culture of TrÜth
McCain has everyone bamboozled. We went out with friends last night who like McCain.
I had to straighten' them out - for the good of the nation!!
portia |
12.29.07 - 10:40 am | #
That chick with the option ARM was pretty dumb to go public. She had 20 months left to make minimum payments before she defaults. Now she's admitted she lied about her income on the loan, and if the mortgage holder wants, they can file charges, and probably take the condo immediately. She had to know what she was doing. Look at that tiny kitchen. That's probably a studio/efficiency that she paid nearly $300K for. She can't have any equity, and her minimum payment probably is less than the place would rent for.
jussumbody |
12.29.07 - 10:40 am | #
corporations don't exist freely from the state, its a symbiotic relationship
as Kevin Carson pointed out in his post, just look at how many politicians move from 'private' employment to political appointments and back again
they are both in it together
Moonbootica, Employed |
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12.29.07 - 10:40 am | #
because corporations are facilitated by the state
Big business interests whose profits depend on direct subsidies and protections from the state are, in fact, a part of the state. If Marx was right in calling the state "the executive committee of the ruling class"--and I think he was--then the owners and managers of the corporate economy make up the lion's share of that ruling class.
that's brilliant: show how all teh corporate welfare fucks are as commie as anything whipped up in moscow or beijing: from teh MI-complex to media in cahoots with the FCC to bailouts of corporations and preferential monetary policies from teh fed
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12.29.07 - 10:41 am | #
I can't believe there are so meany here who feel it is actually a worthwhile excercise to complain day in day out about how weak and co-opted our Democratic candidates are, and how what we need is a "true progressive". Have you not lived in this country for the last 20 years? It is in large measure the most pathetic collection of superstitious, ignorant, bigoted, and fearful untermenschen to ever to somehow claim the collective status of Great Nationhood. We have seen Borat and he is us!
I think the analysis in Lambert's post is excellent. We came to this pass via a steady advancing of the window of acceptable policy rightwards over a period of more than 30 years, through a sustained, well-financed effort on the part of most of the socioeconomic oligarchy. The mind of our nation, such as it is, has been corrupted. If we want it back, we have to KEEP PUSHING, SLOWLY AND STEADILY in the other direction for a number of decades, just like the other side did. The idea that some perfectly pure progressive messiah is ever going to come and sweep all the money changers out of the temple is childish. It's time to get over it.
The only candidate in the whole race who would in his or her wildest dreams try to do one single thing that I might regard as too far to the left is Kucinich, and that's only on a tiny handful of issues, mostly relating to technology. And yet day in, day out, I defend the candidates who are well to the right of me and tainted with various unseemly deals, because they, and not some non-existent Savior of America, are what we have to work with. They are the ones who can get elected, and they are the ones who can start the window's painfully slow creaking back towards the left.
blerb, just baked |
12.29.07 - 10:43 am | #
when does the after christmas sales begin for nuclear devices and components in Pakistan now that we've not only allowed, encouraged but enabled through funding the tripling out of their nukes processing?
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12.29.07 - 10:44 am | #
``This decision was made only after we attempted to convince redeeming investors to voluntarily rescind their redemption requests,
"Some of it must have been missplaced by the State Department".
"We don't keep an eye on the big items", she said with a big ol' grin
look out tomato |
12.29.07 - 10:45 am | #
The insurance companies will be slowly squeezed out. Realistically, you can't just say you're gonna do away with an entire industry. Most people fear big changes.
We are not doomed here people if Hillary gets the nomination. Things will not move as far to the left as we would like, but they'll improve about 98% over whatever policies the rethugs will try and enact.
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12.29.07 - 10:49 am | #
Is that the right link? I cant see the quote in the LA times article.
Dwight Meredith |
12.29.07 - 11:04 am | #
atrios' link is not to the article quoted. Here is the correct link: