I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

GravatarTa Dah!

Shoes!
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GravatarIf Madoff is using stolen money to pay for guards, shouldn't he be in jail?

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/ne...bOYs& refer=home


Gravatartop five


GravatarSo, "shoes" are the new "owls"?


GravatarWhat! No trolley car picture?
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GravatarBa-donk-ee-donk.
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GravatarHow come it wasn't "Last Call"?


GravatarBedBug -- any 2-stroke 50cc bike can be de-restricted and get you up to 40mph. That one, especially... it's gotta weigh less than 120 lbs.!
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Gravatarshoos


GravatarSo, "shoes" are the new "owls"?

Yup.


GravatarYup.
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Tyrolean Alps (ala Mummers) would be nice too.
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Gravatarpizza night hereabouts.


GravatarSneezing night, here. HuffPo says I might be aroused...
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GravatarBa-donk-ee-donk.
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that is correct ...


GravatarAh, the Mummers.

It's strange, the things you find you miss once you don't have to put up with them anymore...


GravatarThere's no possible way for a Madoff scheme to flourish, with a functioning Securities and Exchange Commission.

No fucking way.

The dude was an investment service and a trader at the same time.

1,000 red flags, much?!


Gravatarhey again

i am such a bad person, drinking a Tequila Sunrise

but i love you all


GravatarBill O'Reilly - "Se, se, se, se, senator, Senator Franken!?"

[O'Reilly's head explodes]

Film at eleven.
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GravatarIt got up to 70°F here, today. Tomorrow, storms, low 50s.
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Gravatari am just so excited about Christmas


GravatarBernard Lawrence Madoff (pronounced "made-off")(born April 29, 193 is an American businessman and former Chairman of the Nasdaq stock market. He started the Wall Street firm Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities LLC in 1960 and was its chairman until December 11, 2008, when he was arrested and charged with securities fraud.


GravatarWouldn't it be swell if we found out that the Heritage Foundation and the AEI would have to close their doors and lay off some analysts because their clients were bleeding money?

"Thank for the past 30 years and twisting the world into "free market rules rule" but we are going to have cut back on our donations. As a company with Enterprise in your name I'm sure you will find new productive jobs for your fellows. Maybe some of the Universities will take them."


GravatarBernard L. Madoff Investment Securities, which is in the process of liquidation, was one of the top market maker businesses on Wall Street, often functioning as a "third-market" provider that bypassed "specialist" firms and directly executed orders over-the-counter from retail brokers.


Gravatar?Ah, the Mummers.

It's strange, the things you find you miss once you don't have to put up with them anymore...
Marcellina |


I usually go to the Mummers once every ten years or so. Beyond that it's too much.
btw There's still talk about moving the parade to July 4th (more tourists, better weather etc) it'll never happen!
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Gravatargreedy stupid bankers

now you can't do much about greed but when combined with stupidity, well you end up like we are

so much stupidity


GravatarUgh, jack is here.


GravatarWait - Rick Warren is creationist? http://www.thenation.com/doc/ 200...htsideaccordian


GravatarOn December 11, 2008, Federal Bureau of Investigation agents arrested Madoff on a tip-off from his sons, Andrew and Mark, and charged him with one count of securities fraud. On the day prior to his arrest, Madoff told his senior executives at the firm that the management and advisory segment of the business was "basically, a giant Ponzi scheme."


GravatarThere's no possible way for a Madoff scheme to flourish, with a functioning Securities and Exchange Commission.

Since the age of Reagan, defanging the SEC has been a central tenet of "free market" deregulation dogma.

They have succeeded beyone their wildest dreams, and this Madoff catastrophe is a result.


GravatarBefore his arrest, Madoff was a prominent businessman and philanthropist.


GravatarLet's guess what comes next: "Among Madoff's marks were Steven Spielberg..."


GravatarMadoff started his firm in 1960 with an initial investment of $5,000 that he said was earned from working as a lifeguard and installing sprinklers.


GravatarHardball chyron:

"Bush Legacy: Liberated Iraq & Achieved Peace."

Please give me what they are smoking. Please. I really, really need it. It's been a tough week.


GravatarBy the way, I'd like to suggest that we focus our anger not at the general category of "bankers" but at the more specific category of investment bankers or even the "shadow bankers" or "shadow investment community."

These are the people who created the 30x CDS and said that they were fine. They were the ones who wanted out of regulation and they are the ones who are demanding the bailout or "we'll take the country down with us!"

I say this because just like lumping all the people in one religion is a disservice to that religion, so too is dumping all bankers into one catagory.


GravatarAt first, the firm made markets (quoted bid and ask prices) via the National Quotation Bureau's Pink Sheets. In order to compete with firms that were members of the New York Stock Exchange, the firm began to use information technology to disseminate its quotes. After a trial run, the technology the firm helped develop became the NASDAQ.


GravatarWindfarmer Joe ad is hard to look at. Though easier than McConnell's mug.


GravatarAn estimated 16 million motorists will take to the roads over the festive season, while Heathrow marked the start of the Christmas getaway yesterday with its second busiest day this year.

But motorways and airports are predicted to be quieter than previous years as the credit crunch convinces many people to spend Christmas at home. It is estimated that there will be 2 million fewer motorists on the road than last year, and airport operator BAA expects some respite in its usually crowded terminals, with 373,000 fewer people travelling compared with last year.

The Christmas break will also be the longest for 16 years for thousands of workers sent home by cash-strapped employers, with some staff not returning to work until 19 January. Car workers will be among those facing a month's enforced holiday, with Ford, Aston Martin and Vauxhall sending staff home early after closing down plants temporarily. The Federation of Small Businesses estimates that about 500,000 firms will close from Monday until 5 January: the longest hiatus since 1992.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/200...port- automotive


GravatarMadoff's firm was "the first prominent practitioner" of "paying for order flow," in other words paying a broker to execute a customer's order through Madoff, which has been called a "legal kickback." Using this method, the firm became the largest dealer in NYSE-listed stocks in the U.S., trading about 15% of transaction volume in these stocks.


GravatarTweety: Pat Pukecannon is a historian in his own right.

Which right is that--extreme right?


GravatarHey, Moonboo, what is a "Vauxhall"?


GravatarMadoff, "If your girlfriend goes to buy stockings at a supermarket, the racks that display those stockings are usually paid for by the company that manufactured the stockings. Order flow is an issue that attracted a lot of attention but is grossly overrated."


GravatarWindfarmer Joe ad is hard to look at. Though easier than McConnell's mug.
cosmosis-elect


I imagine Grinch green McConnell ads are paying for Atrios' groceries.
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GravatarHey, Moonboo, what is a "Vauxhall"?
cosmosis-elect | 12.19.08 - 7:45 pm | #


a car company, its owned by GM


GravatarAccording to the authorities, the sons confronted their father, asking him how the firm could pay bonuses if it could not pay investors, prompting Madoff's admission that he was "finished," after which they reported him to the authorities.


GravatarThe SEC relies on tips, they have very few agents and they are overwhelmed by the number of companies they are supposed to track. At one time like 7 out of the top 10 spots were open and weren't being filled. Partly this was because the money people could make in the private world was much greater and partly because they didn't have a lot of respect in the community.

I have a relative who considers himself the smartest of the smart when it comes to money and investing. He would be a great person to join the SEC so that he could explain all the tricks that he figured out.


GravatarMadoff was also a major contributor to the Democratic party.


Gravatarwhat is good this Friday evening?


GravatarThe SEC relies on tips

Is the going rate 20% like at restaurants?


Gravatarprompting Madoff's admission that he was "finished," after which they reported him to the authorities.

Bullshit! They were in on it from the gitgo!
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Gravatarfrom below, about dorothy fuldheim:


"What was her claim to fame?"

she was a local version of helen thomas.


GravatarI offer you a collection of Bush pics comparing how he views himself and how the rest of the world sees him....


Gravatarbtw There's still talk about moving the parade to July 4th (more tourists, better weather etc) it'll never happen!

Don't the Mummers do that "Two Street" thing in July?


Gravatar ms fahrenheit: what is good this Friday evening?

Even though I was unable to pay rent today, my landlord isn't ready to put me and the cats on the street.

That's a good day!
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GravatarIs the going rate 20% like at restaurants?
cosmosis-elect


Only if you want to thank them for doing good work. And remember, the SEC has to split their tips with FBI.


GravatarI was hoping Obama would chose Father Guido Sarducci to deliver the inaugural invocation.


GravatarYour landlord wouldn't do that, would he?


GravatarThe SEC relies on tips, they have very few agents

Same with the IRS. But the IRS takes the time to do net worth analyses on suspects, and develop a case whreby there is no apparent reason why the suspect has become so wealthy without ever declaring any taxable income.

The same with the SEC. Madoff was sending weird signals throughout Wall Street for a decade with his 10-12% every year return.

It just can't be done legitimately.


Gravatarms fahrenheit: what is good this Friday evening?

Even though I was unable to pay rent today, my landlord isn't ready to put me and the cats on the street.

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You should get a job with AIG! They give out great Christmas bonuses! Plus, since it's part of the federal government you could get free health care too!


Gravatar ms fahrenheit: Your landlord wouldn't do that, would he?

I'd rather not put it to the test. He recently lost a job, and he counts on his two rental condos right now. I count on him to keep paying the mortgage.

I have a bit of income coming soon, and I will sell the Vino, if I get crunched.
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GravatarGood evening, folks.

Hardball chyron:

"Bush Legacy: Liberated Iraq & Achieved Peace."

Please give me what they are smoking. Please. I really, really need it. It's been a tough week.
Southern Beale

Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

All the other side does is lie and deny.


GravatarI have a bit of income coming soon, and I will sell the Vino, if I get crunched.

Would that really be okay? and
How long would that keep you going?


GravatarCan we throw shoes at Bush's retreating limo as he drives off for the last time from the White House?


Gravatar(lurks quietly)


GravatarOne of the smartest blogs around (and one that not uncommonly links to This Place) is Sean Carroll's "Cosmic Variance". Sean talks about a Foreign Policy article on the ten worst predictions of 2008. You'll like this bit:

“If [Hillary Clinton] gets a race against John Edwards and Barack Obama, she’s going to be the nominee. Gore is the only threat to her, then. … Barack Obama is not going to beat Hillary Clinton in a single Democratic primary. I’ll predict that right now.” —William Kristol, Fox News Sunday, Dec. 17, 2006

Weekly Standard editor and New York Times columnist William Kristol was hardly alone in thinking that the Democratic primary was Clinton’s to lose, but it takes a special kind of self-confidence to make a declaration this sweeping more than a year before the first Iowa caucus was held. After Iowa, Kristol lurched to the other extreme, declaring that Clinton would lose New Hampshire and that “There will be no Clinton Restoration.” It’s also worth pointing out that this second wildly premature prediction was made in a Times column titled, “President Mike Huckabee?” The Times is currently rumored to be looking for his replacement."
(the FP article.)

Sean ends with this:

Of course, asking Bill Kristol to predict the future is like asking Rod Blagojevich to head a good-government task force. Here’s my prediction: Kristol will continue to say dumb things, next year and far into the future. And get paid handsomely for doing so.


GravatarI was hoping Obama would chose Father Guido Sarducci to deliver the inaugural invocation.
Telegram Sam

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Don is brilliant. Did you know that it was his suggestion to train Portuguese Water Dogs to make up the Baseball Aquatic Retrieval Korps (B.A.R.K.), which retrieves home run balls hit by the San Francisco Giants into neighboring McCovey Cove? The proceeds are donated to charity.

http://www.puppyfind.com/ portugu...e+water+dog.php


Gravatar ms fahrenheit: Would that really be okay? and
How long would that keep you going?


If I get the income and sell the Vino, 60 days. Hopefully, a job will be obtained in the meantime.
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Gravatar{{{{{{{{{{sallyh}}}}}}}}}}}}

Holidays suck this year, don't they?


GravatarDon is brilliant. Did you know that it was his suggestion to train Portuguese Water Dogs to make up the Baseball Aquatic Retrieval Korps (B.A.R.K.), which retrieves home run balls hit by the San Francisco Giants into neighboring McCovey Cove? The proceeds are donated to charity.

http://www.puppyfind.com/ portugu...e+water+dog.php
spocko

What an inaugural invocation that would have made!


GravatarSallyh -- Curly was no help...?
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GravatarSending good vibes your way JP.

A job, any job, would work for now.


Gravatar ms fahrenheit: A job, any job, would work for now.

Thank you. Indeed, I'm holding out hope that the restaurant guy is going to hire me to do scooter deliveries.
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GravatarHardball chyron:

"Bush Legacy: Liberated Iraq & Achieved Peace."



That is...........

Absolutely Insane.


GravatarBill Kristol never gets tired of being wrong, does he?


GravatarMs Fahrenheit. Yes they do suck this year.

This is the first year with out my dad.
None of us are going "home" for the holidays. I talk to my mom and she breaks down crying just thinking about it. The good news is that there is a new grandchild for her to dote on so she has something to do.


GravatarJeffraham, both Curly and LarryElvis always help.

Ms. Farenheit, yes. They do.


GravatarBut...but... Bush kept us safe!


GravatarBill Kristol never gets tired of being wrong, does he?
Terry C ♥s Pres. Obama | 12.19.08 - 7:59 pm | #


Practice=Perfect.

The Perfect Asshole.


Gravatarhire me to do scooter deliveries.

That sounds like fun. I'm odd, I know, but it does.

When I worked at the post office, being out delivering was always more fun than working in the office.


GravatarWo sind die Katzen?!


GravatarYay! I have a 4-5 minute time slot in the 05 Jan 09 hearing for the rules concerning our medical cannabis law.


GravatarI'm out, it's way too late. Have a good night, moonbats.


Gravataryes talk soon you wonderful beautiful moonbats

ciao


GravatarDo people not understand that cheney is just gaming the system
he admitted to torture so now the Punk pres. has a reason to pardon him
once he has a pardon, well you know smooth skating & bye bye & stuff.


GravatarThank FSM I followed my depression era parents advice to keep no debt except a reasonable mortgage, and to pay that mortgage off early. And my daddy said not to trust those fuckers on Wall Street (his exact words). I should have listened to that part a little better.


GravatarThis is the first year with out my dad.
None of us are going "home" for the holidays. I talk to my mom and she breaks down crying just thinking about it. The good news is that there is a new grandchild for her to dote on so she has something to do.
spocko

Thank you. Indeed, I'm holding out hope that the restaurant guy is going to hire me to do scooter deliveries.
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Jeffraham Prestonian

(lurks quietly)
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere


Bigs hugs for everybody!


GravatarAll 5 kittehs!


Gravatarellroon. Nice post!

But what about all the terrorist attacks he stopped! Like those guys who wanted uniforms and boots! The crazy one!

One of the greatest dodges of all time is the "It's a matter of National Security". There probably WERE plots that the FBI broke up, but how many NEW plotters did he create with this crazy war?.


GravatarDon is brilliant. Did you know that it was his suggestion to train Portuguese Water Dogs to make up the Baseball Aquatic Retrieval Korps (B.A.R.K.), which retrieves home run balls hit by the San Francisco Giants into neighboring McCovey Cove?
spocko


I did not. But having read the Nixon-Ford era "Lazlo Letters," I'm not surprised. Clearly an "idea man."


Gravatar NTodd -- Sam is fixed, isn't he?
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Gravatarnew grandchild for her to dote on so she has something to do.

Aaah. The circle of life. This will make this year bittersweet. I hope she spends a lot of time with her grandchild, and you should as well.


Sallyh, I'm sorry, and want you to know that my thoughts are with you this holiday season. Keep moving forward in efforts to fight for your granddaughter, and hopefully your travels will distract you some. *hugs*


GravatarSam is fixed, isn't he?

Well, he wasn't even broken was he?


GravatarKeith: "Sarah Palin pallin' around with drug dealers."

Heh heh!


Gravatar Barndog: Well, he wasn't even broken was he?

I meant, "Was he tutored?"

"Is he a Neuticles™ candidate?"


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GravatarI did not. But having read the Nixon-Ford era "Lazlo Letters," I'm not surprised. Clearly an "idea man."
Telegram Sam
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I LOVED the Lazlo Letters. When I think about it, writing letters have lead to some of my most interesting experiences.

The use of humor with education is a big plus in my book.


GravatarG'wan and cut his nuts off. That'll teach him a lesson.


GravatarBlago is such an idiot.

And an arrogant idiot, to boot.


GravatarWell, he wasn't even broken was he?
Barndog, not feeling bad | Homepage |


He looks a little broken, doesn't he


GravatarSam is fixed, isn't he?

Look, just because I'm this old and haven't had any kids doesn't mean...


Gravatarin the air tonight...


GravatarI'd eat a mile of Sarah Palin's shit just to see where it came from.


GravatarThe Bad Hair Hall of Fame, Political Division.


GravatarPosted to dead thread . . . again:

I knew there was something about Fuldheim's early career. She interviewed Hitler and Mussolini, too.
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GravatarLook, just because I'm this old and haven't had any kids doesn't mean...

It's okay. I know lots of people with kids who shouldn't have them.

It all works out.


GravatarKeith: "Sarah Palin pallin' around with drug dealers."

Heh heh!
Terry C ♥s Pres. Obama | Homepage | 12.19.08 - 8:07 pm | #

I'm intimidated by Palin's success.


GravatarOh, here we go again with the infantile name stealing.

Well, if there's no gravatar, it is not me.


GravatarTrools are out tonight.


GravatarKrugman on Cspan 2.


Gravatar Terry C: Well, if there's no gravatar, it is not me.

You're not fooling anyone, luser trool.




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GravatarTrools are out tonight.
bluesman,Atlatlcommandoloon


In force and even more stupid than ever.

You can always tell when school is on break.


GravatarMust . Find . Glasses. Trolls


GravatarI think Phil Collins was the first concert I saw as an 'adult,' which means as an oldster.

God, talk about depressing.

I've tried to fix that since.


GravatarSarah Palin's success?

What success?


Gravatarhey folks

sallyh

I send you all the love i have for you my friend.


GravatarTerry

We know when its you.


Gravatarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6...h? v=640BQNxB5mc

Self-discovery awaits.


GravatarSarah Palin's success?

What success?


"I get my meth at discount, ya betcha!"


GravatarTerry

We know when its you.
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars

The trool was pulling this same nonsense last night.

Really tiresome.


Gravatar"I think Phil Collins was the first concert I saw as an 'adult,' which means as an oldster."

doobie brothers here

celebrated that by getting really really hight that night


GravatarOne of the greatest dodges of all time is the "It's a matter of National Security". There probably WERE plots that the FBI broke up, but how many NEW plotters did he create with this crazy war?.
spocko

Remember when Bush blatted about a terrorist group in Britain? The British had to let them go because they hadn't had time to collect enough evidence.

Was it one of them that then went on to attack the doubledecker bus?


GravatarSarah Palin's success?

What success?

"I get my meth at discount, ya betcha!"
Supreme Commander Thor



GravatarSam is fixed, isn't he?

Yup. Just doesn't get along with Biggles.


GravatarSarah Palin's success?

More suck excess.


Gravatarms fahrenheit, me posting the vid made you depressed or you going to the concert or both?


GravatarSarah Palin's success?

What success?
Terry C ♥s Pres. Obama | Homepage | 12.19.08 - 8:13 pm | #

A wealthly, self-made, educated woman who shattered the glass ceiling. The only woman to ever run on a ticket.

You're jealous.


GravatarHeh, there are two dining establishments in this hotel. One expensive, one a pub. Unfortunately, the pub has a deejay so we'll probably be stuck eating at the expensive restaurant. They advertise the deejay as a draw. Must be a plot.


GravatarI send you all the love i have for you my friend.
Uncle Blodge, Total Sap

And you need a hug too!


GravatarThe really sleezy Beatle? You know the one with the tambourine? Yeah, you got it, Blagovik!


GravatarSay what you will, but if Palin can shit a mile of feces, I'd say that's a measure of success.
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Gravatar(((((((((sallyh)))))))))


Gravatar"I think Phil Collins was the first concert I saw as an 'adult,' which means as an oldster."

doobie brothers here

celebrated that by getting really really hight that night


Eagles here, who were really fucked up that night and had a little bit of trouble trying to stay together for the first three or four songs. After that they drugs must have kicked in and they were pretty good.


Gravatareducated woman



Six colleges?


GravatarThe only woman to run on a ticket?

that would be geraldine ferraro


GravatarSay what you will, but if Palin can shit a mile of feces, I'd say that's a measure of success.
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Jeffraham Prestonian


From what I observed from the campaign, she IS pretty full of shit.


GravatarPlease, disengage from the hopelessly stupid.

Thanks.
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GravatarThe only woman to ever run on a ticket.


Wrong.


Gravatarhttp://www.amazon.com/Purpose-Ch...29735497&sr=1- 1


In his powerful yet compassionate voice, Pastor Rick Warren sounds the clarion call to "remember the reason for the season," taking readers back in time to the most wonderful story of all -- the birth of the baby Jesus. When he was just a small boy, young Rick asked his parents if they could celebrate Christmas with a birthday party for Jesus -- and the tradition began that the Warrens have upheld for over fifty years. Now through stirring imagery and compelling personal insights, The Purpose of Christmas honors the significance and promise of this cherished holiday.

Pastor Warren encourages readers to identify and confront what drains peace from their lives. Warren explains that the way to respond to these peace-robbers is to learn how to surrender to God's will and not feel defeated or discouraged when life does not go as planned. True peace of mind is found by having an unshakeable faith in God -- knowing that his empowering Spirit will guide his children through life's challenges.

Beautifully written, The Purpose of Christmas will stir readers to honor the true significance of Christmas and to nurture God's gifts of love and peace in this world.


GravatarReally tiresome.
Terry C


Every time you acknowledge that they bug you or that you had to sign off because of them, they win. Why give them the satisfaction?

I offer this very gently.


GravatarWe know when its you.

The gravatar is a giveaway. Always is, if ya follah.


GravatarThe only woman to ever run on a ticket.

Hey troll: Geraldine Ferraro. Ever heard of her?


Gravatar"And you need a hug too!"

thanks

I'm doing better


GravatarUhh... there are a lot of women that ran on a ticket.


Note to trolls: practice teh google.


Gravatar qlª: I offer this very gently.

I love you.


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GravatarThe only woman to ever run on a ticket.


Wrong.
Terry C ♥s Pres. Obama | Homepage | 12.19.08 - 8:18 pm | #

You seeth with jeaolusy.


She's accomplished so much more than any of you ever will.


Gravatarfokowi

Getting old depressed me, not phil. The concert and my behavior depressed me, but I changed that too.

Thanks for the vid.


GravatarBeautifully written, The Purpose of Christmas will stir readers to honor the true significance of Christmas and to nurture God's gifts of love and peace in this world.

Fuck Jesus, he owes me money!


GravatarEvery time you acknowledge that they bug you or that you had to sign off because of them, they win. Why give them the satisfaction?

I offer this very gently.
qlª - In Oregon


Well, I signed off last night because it was 1:00 a.m. and unlike them, I had to get up for work at 6.


Gravatarql, are you still in Elgin? How much snow on the ground there?


GravatarSelf-discovery awaits.
Barndog, not feeling bad

his garb, in such circumstances screams "i'm so cool it hurts" what a charletan.


Gravatarlike moonchild earlier, i have tweaked my bloodstream to an exquisite level.

be gentle...


Gravatar"The gravatar is a giveaway. Always is, if ya follah."

you know I don't know who said you were an idiot but goddam they were wrong


GravatarI offer this very gently.

Goddamned Quaker Elders...


GravatarMarcellina -- Would love to take you up on your offer to send the Kiachl recipe. You had already signed off when I saw you message, so I left an answer -- and gobs of gratitude over at your blog.

You should have my email from my comments there, right?
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GravatarShe's accomplished so much more than any of you ever will.

"I let my daughter get knocked up by a drug pusher's son. That's accomplishing, ya betcha!"


GravatarYou seeth with jeaolusy.


It's "seethe" and "jealousy".

Its knowledge of spelling is as extensive as its knowledge of American history.

The only thing Mooselina has accomplished was to become an international laughing stock. That was never on my list of aspirations.


GravatarBeautifully written, The Purpose of Christmas will stir readers to honor the true significance of Christmas and to nurture God's gifts of love and peace in this world.
fokowi
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The Purpose of Christmas will stir readers to honor the true significance of Christmas and to nurture
God's gifts of love (except for the queers) and peace (except for the Iranians) in this world.


GravatarKrugman on Cspan 2.


Shrilly nobility.
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GravatarGeezues dudes, women on the prez ticket - the green party, the socialist party, and on & on.

But I guess those don't count in a duocracy.


GravatarBush looking drunk yet again.


GravatarKeith: "Sarah Palin pallin' around with drug dealers."

You left out the best part:

"You betcha!"


Gravatari remember how we lived before sarah palin invented plumbing and writing and all the other stuff. it was grim there in the cave and one day, there was sarah wearing some new fangled coat made with plastics. "I've invented oil-stock and petro-chemicals, you betcha", she said playing a tune latter attributed to John Lennon on her violin - we'd never seen one of those before either.


GravatarGeezues dudes, women on the prez ticket - the green party, the socialist party, and on & on.

But I guess those don't count in a duocracy.
Troutski HFM


The troll only knows what Rush and Faux News tell it.


GravatarSay what you will, but if Palin can shit a mile of feces, I'd say that's a measure of success.
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Jeffraham Prestonian


From what I observed from the campaign, she IS pretty full of shit.
Terry C ♥s Pres. Obama | Homepage | 12.19.08 - 8:17 pm | #

Jealousy.


GravatarI go to other blogs. But, at the end of the day, I find this place so much more inviting, despite the trolls.


GravatarI love when they forget about the VW bus.

I suppose trolls are lonely during the holiday season, huh?


Gravatarql, are you still in Elgin? How much snow on the ground there?
Tlazolteotl


Nope, in the Tri-Cities in WA now. It blew and howled and snowed for two days in Elgin (we were actually a good half hour outside Elgin). Probably about 18-24 inches of snow. We went through the Blue Mountains today. Normally takes 2 hrs. 15 mins., today it took 4 hrs.

JP-Back atcha friend.


GravatarI suppose trolls are lonely during the holiday season, huh?
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars


So lonely they want to BE us.

Thus, the namestealing.


GravatarI suppose trolls are lonely during the holiday season


All their cheetos migrate to the attic.
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GravatarMy google research skills show that Palin is in fact the only woman grifter to make it on a presidential ticket.


GravatarYou left out the best part: "You betcha!"

Also.


GravatarGoddamned Quaker Elders...
NTodd


Who the fuck you calling "Elder" boy toy!


GravatarI heard that Levi was thinking of backing out of the wedding. "Don't mess with Bristol or I'll have your folks arrested! Don't think I'll do it? TRY ME! I've got nothing to loose now."


GravatarMy google research skills show that Palin is in fact the only woman grifter to make it on a presidential ticket.
Troutski HFM


Well, there is Bush the Second.


GravatarOne of my cats has bladder stones.

This is the same cat who is allergic to EVERY-thing and needs pollen shots every three days.

And has to wear baby clothes because he chews his fur off.

....

....

....

Anyone want a cat?


Gravatarme, namestolen? fuck...


GravatarSay what you will, but if Palin can shit a mile of feces, I'd say that's a measure of success.

Intestinal fortitude has new meaning


GravatarI suppose trolls are lonely during the holiday season, huh?
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars


So lonely they want to BE us.

Thus, the namestealing.
Terry C ♥s Pres. Obam
---------------
Wow. I never thought of it like that.


GravatarWhy do I have the idea that ql will never again leave the East Coast?


Gravatar cosmic tumbler: Well, there is Bush the Second.

Hey! Men can be Andover cheerleaders, too!
.


GravatarI heard that Levi was thinking of backing out of the wedding. "Don't mess with Bristol or I'll have your folks arrested! Don't think I'll do it? TRY ME! I've got nothing to loose now."
spocko


This is Mooselina's out.

She can't have her precious daughter marry into THAT family.

(clutches pearls and looks for fainting couch)


GravatarWe could decorate a tree outside with cheetos for them. Hate to see anybody go hungry.


GravatarZero Interest Rate Policy

ZIRP

We've been zirped, says the Noble one.
-


Gravatarme, namestolen? fuck...
fokowi


It's a validation that you've arrived, fokowi. That you're enough of a regular that using your nym to sow discord is considered a gambit worth putting forth.


Gravatarql, I saw what the roads look like up at Meacham today on TripCheck. I would not have wanted to be driving that. Looks like it would have been about 80 miles of ice sheet. I don't even want to think of what the Pendleton grade was like. Wheeee! in the white knuckled kind of way.


GravatarHey! Men can be Andover cheerleaders, too!
.
Jeffraham Prestonian


Exactly. You are too kewl.


GravatarI guess this casts a pall over the Bristol/Levi wedding.



As if ...!

The Palins couldn't get more redneck if they tried!!!!


Gravatarql left you a note below, don't know if you saw it

if you know someone that you think we may be able to help. feel free to send them our way


GravatarSo, Bad Santa was apparently stolen, Badder Santa should be there but they can't find it, and Tenacious D should have 2 copies in, but they are nowhere to be found.

So there goes that idea.


GravatarDick Cheney cold here at Rancho Troutski. Already down to 20 duhgrees.


GravatarIf I was Levi I'd be worried that Sarah might have one of those metal funnels with my name on it


GravatarThe Palins couldn't get more redneck if they tried!!!!
Southern Beale


But WE'RE "jealous"...of THEM!



Gravatarhad a recurring nightmare two nights ago that cheney was really The Lizard King


GravatarI said this earlier today and I'll stand by it... Levi's been selling meth for his mom. Wait and see, time will prove me right.


Gravatar Terry C: But WE'RE "jealous"...of THEM!

You would have us believe that you DON'T wanna be a guest on the Jerry Springer Show?
.


GravatarThis is Mooselina's out.

She can't have her precious daughter marry into THAT family.

(clutches pearls and looks for fainting couch)
Terry C ♥s Pres. Obama
---------

She'll use that old Hindu line from Ghandi, "Love the sinner, hate the sin." and "Forgive" them for their transgressions. That way she will seem very "big" about the whole. Deal.

Some "Christians" are very forgiving when it comes to people who share their ideology.


GravatarLevi's been selling meth for his mom. Wait and see, time will prove me right.

He's a good boy, he is.


GravatarI said this earlier today and I'll stand by it... Levi's been selling meth for his mom. Wait and see, time will prove me right.
Thumper Johnson


Saw a photo of Ms. Johnston.

SCREAMS "white trash".


GravatarWhy do I have the idea that ql will never again leave the East Coast?
GWPDA




Nah, despite all, we're having fun. Never during the winter again, though.


GravatarBONSOIR!

i have one question for you: who will play senator Franken on SNL?


GravatarYou would have us believe that you DON'T wanna be a guest on the Jerry Springer Show?
.
Jeffraham Prestonian


I don't even WATCH Jerry Springer.


GravatarI don't even want to think of what the Pendleton grade was like.

Me neither, it's a bitch even in good weather.


GravatarI said this earlier today and I'll stand by it... Levi's been selling meth for his mom. Wait and see, time will prove me right.
Thumper Johnson

Or, he was selling it but now Sarah has shown him the light and saved him from his life of sin.

2012 could really be fun.


GravatarThe problem is that you get struggling folks like Levi and his drug addicted momma in the national media and all kinds of shit happens. Think McCain.


GravatarThe Pendleton dust storms scare me.


GravatarKeith is so sexay when he talks about hockey


GravatarLevi's been selling meth for his mom. Wait and see, time will prove me right.

He's a good boy, he is.


Which is what Bar Bush tells us about her vile litter.


GravatarThe pizza is ordered and PBS is on. Photo albums to come.


GravatarShe's accomplished so much more than any of you ever will.

"I let my daughter get knocked up by a drug pusher's son. That's accomplishing, ya betcha!"
Supreme Commander Thor | 12.19.08 - 8:20 pm | #

Sounds lot like Sally's situation.


GravatarIt makes sense that they out the drug connections now so that people will forget by 2012. Unlike the RW press who can go back to Whitewater without a blink of an eye.


Gravatarthe Jerry Springer Show is still on?


GravatarAtrios ......

Where are the cats?
Where are the cats?


Gravatardaughters get knocked up all on their own. i know i did.


Gravatar68° F

75° earlier.

[Bugs.]
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GravatarBill Kristol never gets tired of being wrong, does he?
Terry C ♥s Pres. Obama

Rhetorical question?


Gravatarfokowi's last "post" was absent a gravatar. Fucking trolls.


Gravatar"The pizza is ordered and PBS is on. Photo albums to come."

pasta salad and 3 computers here.

kids run in and hug me

it's all good


Gravatarspeaking of vile....


GravatarAtrios has sub-contracted out the catblogging to me.
.


GravatarSounds lot like Sally's situation.

Not that anyone asked you troll, but Sally's daughter didn't get knocked up at 16.


GravatarWhy are we talking about the grifters, again?

I thought we were over them.


GravatarI said this earlier today and I'll stand by it... Levi's been selling meth for his mom. Wait and see, time will prove me right.


Wouldn't surprise me one bit ..


Gravatar"I think Phil Collins was the first concert I saw as an 'adult,' which means as an oldster."

doobie brothers here

celebrated that by getting really really hight that night
Uncle Blodge, Total Sap

Dave Matthews.


GravatarWhat you didn't see on the PuppyCam.


GravatarI said this earlier today and I'll stand by it... Levi's been selling meth for his mom. Wait and see, time will prove me right.
Thumper Johnson

Or, he was selling it but now Sarah has shown him the light and saved him from his life of sin.

2012 could really be fun.
bill | 12.19.08 - 8:32 pm | #


Is this what happened to Sally?


GravatarThe horses have cute frosties on their whiskers tonight.


Gravatars'cuse me, but nobody can complain about the temperature but me

http://www.meteomedia.com/index....0363& switchto=f

that's -17F with the wind. And it's windy


GravatarIt is amazing to me that humanity has formed order from complete chaos while having free will.

Heckuva Job


GravatarNot that anyone asked you troll, but Sally's daughter didn't get knocked up at 16.
Tlazolteotl


It's people with major inadequacies in their own lives who make ignorant assumptions about the lives of others.

The trolls excel at that....that and projection are the only two things at which they excel.


GravatarI'm 40. That's OLD....


GravatarAli, Levi's mom got busted for allegedly trafficking drugs this morning.


GravatarWhy are we talking about the grifters, again?


Because the Palin Baby Daddy Mommy was arrested for six felony drug counts today.

Meth dealer. In the meth capital of Alaska. What were the odds?


Gravatar""The pizza is ordered and PBS is on. Photo albums to come."

pizza in the oven here(too cold to do on grill), then the panna cotta.


GravatarI'm 40. That's OLD....

Got you beat, kiddo.


GravatarMontel hawking Obama coins?

Bwahahahahaha!
.


GravatarI know, Tlaz. Still don't care.

nobody can complain about the temperature but me

http://www.meteomedia.com/index....0363& switchto=f

that's -17F with the wind. And it's windy
plum p,better democrats please


Montreal FTW! I knew you had it in you.


Gravatarcheck those tiny kitehs

http://thedailykitten.com/

eeeep!


GravatarI'm 40. That's OLD....
DuaneV, AlfFan


You younger whippersnapper!


GravatarSarah Palin's related to meth pushers?


This can only be good for the Repig Party...


GravatarWasilla is ripe for reality teevee.


GravatarOOps - young, not younger.

steve simels regrets the error.


Gravatarcup of chicken soup here


GravatarSounds lot like Sally's situation.

Not that anyone asked you troll, but Sally's daughter didn't get knocked up at 16.
Tlazolteotl | Homepage | 12.19.08 - 8:35 pm | #

Oh, now we're all uppity when it's one of your own.

Hypocrite.


GravatarLevi already had his 15 minutes. Let's move on.


GravatarStill don't care.

Heh. Good on ya.


GravatarI'm 40. That's OLD....


Fuck you.




I just celebrated my 47th birthday last month. Just sayin'...


Gravatarplum p

How was the bd?


Blodge

I don't know if you know this, but "it's all good" is not acceptable.


GravatarYou younger whippersnapper!
Terry C ♥s Pres. Obama

One foot in the grave!


Gravatarplum p: Those kittens are adorable.


GravatarFuck you.




I just celebrated my 47th birthday last month. Just sayin'...
Southern Beale

Well, shit, that's plain old decrepit...


Gravatar40, Duane? You are still a kid.


GravatarLevi already had his 15 minutes. Let's move on.


No, not unless you want to see "Palin 2012" t-shirts ...


GravatarI just celebrated my 47th birthday last month. Just sayin'...
Southern Beale

I'm staring 52 squarely in the face.
*shudders*


GravatarOne foot in the grave!
DuaneV, AlfFan


Hey, if I was Bristol Palin, I could be your mother.



GravatarOK, time to pick up the pizza. L8R.


GravatarHow was the bd?
ms fahrenheit

ordinary, but that's fine. I'll be eating duck tomorrow. and profiteroles. miam.


Gravatar56 on November 1.


Gravatar"I don't know if you know this, but "it's all good" is not acceptable.|"

ok

"probably it doesn't totally suck"

better?


Gravatar40, Duane? You are still a kid.
Ali, en vacance

Footloose and fancy free since toilet training!

A gigantic weight as been lifted from my shoulders...


GravatarWell, shit, that's plain old decrepit...


Indeed, I tore my calf muscle at the gym on Wednesday and as a result am walking funny which has exacerbated the tendonitis in my hip.

I probably have bursitis acting up too but I don't know what that is.

:-(


Gravatar40?

shit I was still married at 40

ages ago


GravatarI felt older at 35 than 40, and a few times during the Obama campaign I felt 80, but 45 could be worse.


Gravatari like watching John Dean talk about the Watergate. He repented good, that one.


GravatarBarely out of my Huggies.

But I WILL NOT lose my jammies with the footies...


Gravatarprofiteroles

Savory, or sweet?


GravatarLevi already had his 15 minutes. Let's move on.

I'd like to see the whole family back in the limelight in about three years. She would be a fantastic choice for the Rethug party in 2012. Might just be the end of them for all time.


Gravatar40 is PRIME TIME, Duane. Enjoy it.


Gravatar40 is PRIME TIME, Duane. Enjoy it.
Southern Beale


True.


GravatarSell it for what it is. Both Palin and Sally fucked up their kids.

What goes for one, goes for the other.


GravatarBut I WILL NOT lose my jammies with the footies...


teh hawt!

Come sit here by me ...!


GravatarI felt older at 35 than 40, and a few times during the Obama campaign I felt 80, but 45 could be worse.
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars


I don't know what aged me more...my divorce or eight years of Bush misrule.


GravatarI probably have bursitis acting up too but I don't know what that is.

:-(
Southern Beale

Oooof....I'm sorry...


GravatarSavory, or sweet?
Tlazolteotl

sweet!


GravatarDoes our mouthbreather even HAVE any kids?


Gravatarme, namestolen? fuck...
fokowi

I got namestolen once by some guy who used it to announce fake sheets. Never quite got the point of that.


GravatarCome sit here by me ...!
Southern Beale |

I'm also keeping my Spider - Man Underoos...


GravatarI felt older at 35 than 40, and a few times during the Obama campaign I felt 80, but 45 could be worse.

is this some sort of math story problem??


Gravatar"I don't know what aged me more...my divorce or eight years of Bush misrule"

divorce - coupled with a broken neck and a lost job

not even close. even bush couldn't beat that


GravatarI'm also keeping my Spider - Man Underoos...

That's okay. I'm 45 and I'm wearing my Pikachu socks today.


Gravatar40 is PRIME TIME, Duane. Enjoy it.
Southern Beale

True.
cosmic tumbler


Party Hearty!!


Gravatari didn't officially count myself as middle aged until i hit 45

.


GravatarFirst concert, no kidding: Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention, 1967, maybe Fillmore East? Definitely St. Marks Place...


GravatarI felt older at 35 than 40, and a few times during the Obama campaign I felt 80, but 45 could be worse.

is this some sort of math story problem??
srcfo

Yeah, what time did the second train leave?


GravatarIsn't it wonderful that the US stands with Russia, China, etc. on denying gay folks their rights?


GravatarKeith: "Is Warren becoming Obama's second Rev Wright?"

good question!


Gravatarback in the 1950's people used to say "life begins at 40"

discuss amongst yourselves, i'm too verklempt

.


Gravataryawn


Gravataris this some sort of math story problem??

math story problem??

You can tell you're an English major.


Gravatar52 has been pretty good.


Gravatarback in the 1950's people used to say "life begins at 40"



60 is the NEW 40!


GravatarA department store is a retail establishment which specializes in selling a wide range of products without a single predominant merchandise line.


Gravatar"You can tell you're an English major."

if you see the symbolism in everything


GravatarSeriously folks, I feel better at 58 than I did at 40. Smoke about half as much, get plenty of exercise and only eat red meat once or twice a month.

(being retired helps)

It's all good.


Gravataris this some sort of math story problem??
srcfo

If one train leaves Albuquerque at 3PM, and travels to Chicago at 80MPH...


Gravataris this some sort of math story problem??
srcfo


Norm Coleman says math is stealing the MN election.


GravatarTime doesnt exist, it was invented by mankind to record his failures...


GravatarIsn't it wonderful that the US stands with Russia, China, etc. on denying gay folks their rights?
Terry C ♥s Pres. Obama

Yet many of the same pinheads who desire this association are singing of dawning their gay apparel at this very moment.


Gravatarplum p, you're sure right about John Dean. Way back when I bought his book "Blind Ambition" because I really wanted to read it, even though I was resentful and grumpy for helping to finance Books by Crooks, and I even made faces at his wife when I'd see her on TV because she was so blonde and perfectly made-up, and so on.

But yep, John Dean has atoned and then some. I'm not going to read his co-authored Goldwater book, but I've read his others. Smart man who learned stuff.


Gravatar60 is the NEW 40!

I'm holding you to that.


GravatarThe oldest department store in the world, is 'Austin's' in Derry, Northern Ireland, which has maintained its original position on The 'Diamond' in Derry's city centre since 1830.


Gravatarqlª - In Washington

just got here, reading backwards. I assume you made it!


GravatarIs Obama a stealth right winger homophobe?


GravatarIf one train leaves Albuquerque at 3PM, and travels to Chicago at 80MPH...

Now waitaminute, is that a regular train or a SUPERTRAIN?


GravatarNorm Coleman says math is stealing the MN election.

as buddy the elf would say, that's RIDICULOUS!

[throws boot at ms f]


GravatarShamWOW!
.


GravatarIsn't it wonderful that the US stands with Russia, China, etc. on denying gay folks their rights?
Terry C ♥s Pres. Obama | Homepage | 12.19.08 - 8:47 pm | #

Oh yeah, the pursuit of happiness meant you could fuck other men's dirty assholes.


GravatarCHICAGO -- A combative Gov. Rod Blagojevich served notice Friday that he has no intention of quitting over his corruption arrest, declaring: "I will fight. I will fight. I will fight until I take my last breath. I have done nothing wrong."

I was really hoping impeachment would be enough, but I guess we're going to have to begin suffocation proceedings.


GravatarI think I'm due a Coke


GravatarIs Obama a stealth right winger homophobe?

He's worse than Hitler!
.


Gravatar60 is the NEW 40!
Terry C ♥s Pres. Obama


Notwithstanding that I'm 57 in April, I actually believe this.

You take out an old yearbook from the fifties or the sixties, and look at the kids. They all look like they're thirty-five. Really astounding. People aged 55 or so in my father's generation were typically fat, totally out of shape, heavy smokers and drinkers, and not far from the grave. Three martini lunches, two pack a day executives.

There are people like that today but a hell of a lot fewer than there used to be.


GravatarYet many of the same pinheads who desire this association are singing of donning their gay apparel at this very moment.
bill


Well, so many of them have "issues".


GravatarSurprise. Kenny Starr wants to invalidate all previous gay marriages in California.

Shocked, shocked....


Gravatarsrcfo

Believing you deserve to be abused sucks (35)
Believing I was worth something (40)
Being bone tired (80) BO campaign
Could be worse(45) means good.

No one has your energy.


GravatarHey everybody. I'm lurking quietly myself tonight.

Has it really been confirmed that the Johnstons are the meth capitalists of Wasilla.

I was thinking they may have met Cindy Lou's connection during the campaign and got into pharmaceuticals. Oxycotin.


GravatarHomophobia you can believe in!


GravatarNo, GOD, time is nature's way of keeping everything from happening at once.


Gravatarthe Jerry Springer Show is still on?
plum p,better democrats please ------------
I'm in Love with a Drug Dealer's Son!
Bristol: "My mama said that I should stay away from Levi 'cause they are white trash, but I LOVED him and when I found out his mama was a dealer I just didn't want to believe it. But my mama had the cops investigate him and his mama, and she got arrested. I LOVE LEVI and I HATE my MAMA!"

Jerry: Let's bring out Levi and his mother. (Hugs and kisses all around)

Now let's bring out the woman who had Levi's mother ARRESTED! Gov. Sarah Palin. (Boos and Hisses)

Sarah: "I was just trying to follow the RULE of LAW! I want the best for my little girl and marrying into THAT family is not my idea of the best."

(Sherry Johnston comes flying off the couch toward Sarah Palin) "You BITCH! You ruined my life! That tramp daughter of yours seduced my son. Look at him and look at her. He could do better. She doesn't deserve my Levi's seed! I hope you get impeached!"

Jerry: Careful Sherry, the Gov. could declare you an enemy combatant!

Sarah: "Well Jerry, I didn't win the race, and I'm sorry that Sherry is so upset, I have nothing but love for Levi, but I really have to wonder about the safety of my grandchild if Sherry ever had to babysit. I mean do they leave drugs just lying around the house?"
Sherry: "Listen Caribu Barbie, if it wasn't for your daughter throwing her self at Todd and the McCain camp threatening my life if he didn't say he was going to marry Bristol, we wouldn't be here now. I wouldn't be here now. If you want to know who one of my biggest clients are look no further than your OWN HOME!"

Sarah Palin: I have no idea what you are talking about.
Sherry: Cram it Mooselina, we all know that Todd is a doper, Trak's a boozer and Bristol is methhead. If you don't want to start playing dumb I've got news for you, it ain't working. I have photos of ----Lights go out in the studio....


Gravataranyone ever see al franken's usa map routine? he did it once by request on snl. he starts with maine and hand draws each state while making funny comments.


Gravatardiscuss amongst yourselves, i'm too verklempt

.
tacitus voltage לא | 12.19.08 - 8:48


Talk amongst yourselves..

Some jerk namestole me!

I only call Repigs "hypocrite"..

Well, okay maybe some Democrats, too...


Gravatarused it to announce fake sheets.

Me to and it only took like eight years. Your in vogue now fokowi.
Brawhahaha.


GravatarWe should get Sarah Palin and Sally together. They have so much to share and talk about.


GravatarSurprise. Kenny Starr wants to invalidate all previous gay marriages in California.



There's someone I'd like to see caught in a sex scandal. But I think he's sexless.


GravatarNo, GOD, time is nature's way of keeping everything from happening at once.
larkspur

They said that about the big bang as well.


Gravataranyone ever see al franken's usa map routine? he did it once by request on snl. he starts with maine and hand draws each state while making funny comments.
bullit

I've seen Martin Mull do that. He used to be a teacher. He can even do it backwards on a glass pane.


GravatarJerry: Careful Sherry, the Gov. could declare you an enemy combatant!



Beer up my nose!


Gravatar(CNN) -- Sponsors of the California ballot measure that banned same-sex marriage is seeking to nullify thousands of marriages performed between gay and lesbian couples.

The sponsors have filed three lawsuits with the state Supreme Court seeking to nullify those marriages. In addition to seeking the nullifications, the sponsors also filed responses to lawsuits seeking to strike down the ballot initiative.

Proposition 8 supporters also announced the addition of Kenneth Starr to their legal team. Starr will serve as lead counsel and argue their case to the Supreme Court.

Starr, the dean of Pepperdine Law School, investigated the suicide of Clinton deputy White House counsel Vince Foster and the Whitewater affair. The $70 million investigation turned up evidence of President Clinton's affair with Monica Lewinsky and led to Clinton's impeachment by the House of Representatives. He was acquitted by the Senate.


Fuck these people, fuck Rick Warren, fuck Barack Obama and fuck every motherfucker politician on earth.


GravatarHomophobia you can believe in!
BurpMeALot


You can take that up with the namestealer. It hates women, too.


GravatarSmart man who learned stuff.
larkspur

His Conservatives without Conscience was GREAT. The opening even was thrilling! I especially liked is insight into the RWA mindset. Very useful in understanding power politics and loyalty.


GravatarSarah Palin: I have no idea what you are talking about.
Sherry: Cram it Mooselina, we all know that Todd is a doper, Trak's a boozer and Bristol is methhead. If you don't want to start playing dumb I've got news for you, it ain't working. I have photos of ----Lights go out in the studio....
spocko | Homepage | 12.19.08 - 8:52 pm | #

Sally can really relate to this.


GravatarCindy Lou Who?

Sorry its that time of year.


Gravatarwell, i don't know about you guys, but i don't see getting knocked up at 18 or 20 as necessarily that huge of a problem. and i also don't see it necessarily as a failure of parenting.

i think to view it absolutely as a parenting failure is to remove all responsibility from the knocked up one and her partner. birth control and abortion can be had. it's not 1960 anymore.


i will probably be shouted down, as everyone's mileage may vary.

but i think it is a mistake to lay all blame at the parents' door for what a teen boy and girl did.

it wasn't the pregnancy that messed my life, btw; it was the high handed and religious, adults who knew so much better than i what was best for me at 18, and especially the unconscionable way they brutally excersized their control over the outcome for me and my baby. they really knew how to fuck pregnant women over, and they felt no shame whatsoever in doing it.

just sayin


Gravatar"I think Phil Collins was the first concert I saw as an 'adult,' which means as an oldster."

doobie brothers here

celebrated that by getting really really hight that night
Uncle Blodge, Total Sap

Dave Matthews.
DuaneV, AlfFan



Harry James.
-


GravatarOn July 15, 2007, it was announced that Springer was picked up by NBC-Universal through the 2009-2010 season.


Gravataranyone ever see al franken's usa map routine? he did it once by request on snl. he starts with maine and hand draws each state while making funny comments.
bullit

Yes. Hilarious.


GravatarBeing cruel isn't cool.


GravatarWeird sick namestealer.
-


GravatarBeing cruel isn't cool.
cosmic tumbler


Trolls aren't cool.


Gravataragree with you kidnap


GravatarFace it folks--the 2 party system sucks. We need a third party to stop the corporatist swine.


GravatarWeird sick namestealer.
-
QuentinCompson, Negatory


Agreed. Cowards, apparently have few choices.


Gravatar"I think Phil Collins was the first concert I saw as an 'adult,' which means as an oldster."

BB King at Wolftrap


Gravatarthanks tlaz


GravatarTom Cruise, what a joke.


GravatarBeach Boys


Gravatarnice try speedbump.
.


Gravatar"well, i don't know about you guys, but i don't see getting knocked up at 18 or 20 as necessarily that huge of a problem. and i also don't see it necessarily as a failure of parenting."

I had a student last year - GREAT kid, good student , tough, she used to break up fights between the boys.

Also the mom of an adorable 2 year old.

she says that she was a wild child and becoming a mom saved her as she had to learn to live right for her kid.

she was a wonderful student, and I miss her very much.


GravatarI used to think Phil Collins was the antichrist. But that was before Phil Collins was revealed to be a talentless worm lacking even the most meager magical powers.


GravatarSarah Palin runs with a rough crowd..


GravatarKeith is a having a ball with the Johnston story.


GravatarBeach Boys
Tlazolteotl

Saw them on the Mall with Ringo playing drums. I think it may have been the bicentennial


GravatarThat's okay. I'm 45 and I'm wearing my Pikachu socks today.
Tlazolteotl | Homepage | 12.19.08 - 8:46 pm | #


You worry me.


GravatarI don't know what aged me more...my divorce or eight years of Bush misrule.
Terry C ♥s Pres. Obama |


ouch


GravatarGood points, Kidnap. Very good. I think some of us get so annoyed with Palin, et al., that we spill it over onto Bristol and people like her. Frankly, the only issue I have with Palin and her daughter's pregnancy is how Palin was all kind and generous about respecting her daughter's decision to have the baby, while soliciting support from the ranks of people who'd deny other young women either the agency or the means of making decisions about their pregnancies.


GravatarCindy Lou Who?

Sorry its that time of year.
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars


I always think of that when I see Cindy ever since I found out her middle really is Lou. Could be related to the Whos on the mother's side.


Gravatarfunny that this Levi's mom's drug bust comes out on the friday before xmas...when nobody watches the news


GravatarPhil Collins has talent, but like Obama he goes for the money and fame. Early Genesis albums are pure genius!


Gravatarthey really knew how to fuck pregnant women over, and they felt no shame whatsoever in doing it.

just sayin
Kidnap


To a certain extent, they still are. At least to young women who get pregnant..


GravatarVerdant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y...h? v=YvBXKCFiZnI
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Gravatarblodge, sex is the way the human race goes on

who are we to judge the way we do?


GravatarKidnap and larkspur:

I feel sorry for all of Palin's kids.

I'm waiting for the Mommie Dearest type of tell-all from one of them a few years down the road.


Gravatar"I think Phil Collins was the first concert I saw as an 'adult,' which means as an oldster."

Define "oldster" - not sure where I can find the concert falling on the dividing line.


GravatarAren't waiters like the same thing as the gay mafia?


GravatarTime to eat.


Gravatarlarkspur,

i hate that anyone would deny women their agency in any way.

that was my problem with palin.


Gravatarwhen they tell you life starts at 50, they're not talking about the good stuff.....


GravatarThe only issue I have with Bristol's pregnancy is that she is Trig's mother and she isn't really pregnant.

Sarah Palin makes Blagdonevich look like an egoless wallflower.


GravatarI feel sorry for all of Palin's kids.

I'm waiting for the Mommie Dearest type of tell-all from one of them a few years down the road.
Terry C ♥s Pres. Obama

Oh yes! Of course, a 2012 run would only give the book that much more power.


Gravatar"blodge, sex is the way the human race goes on

who are we to judge the way we do?"

dunno

but pregnant teens are a fact of life and some of them make very good parents.

I talk to one young man and if you could hear the love when he speaks of his son.


GravatarPhil Collins has talent, but like Obama he goes for the money and fame. Early Genesis albums are pure genius!
BurpMeALot


To each his or her own musically.


Gravatarroger that, ql

enjoy dinner. also.


Gravatarfirst concert i ever saw was the ramsey lewis trio at lehigh university as their big hit "the in crowd" was on the charts in 1965. next one was elp at f&m.


GravatarCrystal is a good name for a girl..How about Metthew for a boy..


GravatarAren't waiters like the same thing as the gay mafia?
Scarymousse


No.


GravatarChristian Finnegan is darned funny..


GravatarFirst concert, no kidding: Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention, 1967, maybe Fillmore East? Definitely St. Marks Place...
David Derbes


My hero!


GravatarYes, I will.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g...h?v=gJG-OeCB- L8


Gravatari hate that anyone would deny women their agency in any way.

that was my problem with palin.
Kidnap

That's my problem with the right, period.

You have to live the way THEY think you should....when 90% of THEM don't even live that way.


GravatarTerry C ♥s Pres. Obama
That should sell well. Can't wait.
.


Gravatar"Harry James."

awesome.


GravatarFace it, Obama is another hack. No moral compass. It's the age we live in. We died after the 60s. Postmodernism sucks shit.


GravatarMy Chirstmas tree smells incredible!

No point to that comment, just wanted to wish everyone a good evening.


GravatarTerry C ♥s Pres. Obama
That should sell well. Can't wait.
.
bluesman,Atlatlcommandoloon


Oh, you KNOW it's coming. Those kids are a mess.


GravatarAren't waiters like the same thing as the gay mafia?
Scarymousse

No.
cosmic tumbler

Neither are male flight attendants


GravatarI saw Chicago when I was 11 or so. Barely remember it.


GravatarWe died after the 60s.


Speak for yourself, please.


GravatarEarly Genesis were good, despite Phil Collins.


GravatarIt's the age we live in.

In that case, you should set the example for all of us and eat a muzzle.
.


GravatarThe hot flashes are killing me.


GravatarWhat I objected to was the way the GOP for 3 decades used family values as a political kudgel only to then claim that personal behavior is no ones business.

Not to mention the sanctimonious asses who bleat about unwed pregnancies in the black community.


GravatarTlazolteotl and Kidnap.

You know I was SO oblivious to so much of this stuff growing up. I'm so grateful I had a couple of female housemates that clued me into ALOT.

One was quite the sexual aggressor. Her boyfriend couldn't believe how sex positive she was. I came home from work one day with a cold. She also had a cold and I figured she would be in her room sleeping or watching TV. The door was open and she was on her knees giving her boyfriend a bj. I did a double take, said, "Oh I'm sorry I didn't know you had company" and ran away.

She came out later and we talked.
I apologized for surprising her she said it was no big deal she didn't intent to have guests but her boyfriend had called to invite her out to lunch.
Part 1


GravatarPhil Collins has talent, but like Obama he goes for the money and fame.

"Here is 'Sususudo', one of my personal favorites!"


Gravatar left rev: No point to that comment, just wanted to wish everyone a good evening.

Gee, your hair smells TERRIFIC!


.


GravatarEarly Genesis were good, despite Phil Collins

Collins was a great drummer, just needed someone elses guidance.

First concert as a youn'un - Ides of March.


GravatarOh yeah, anything 60s/70s was good. Post 1980 blows chunks. Boomers sold out. Gen X are far reich wingers. Gen Y are idiots.


Gravatar"Gee, your hair smells TERRIFIC!"

how about psssssst?


GravatarWell, every concert I ever went to I was on the floor, mostly leaning on the stage. (in the days when that was allowed) I was always wasted beyond belief. Get to event, buy concert t, wrap around neck, begin the effort to get up front, listen to music way too loud in front of speakers the size of your house and smoke as much weed as possible.

Oldster: SIT in a fucking seat? Drink, instead of smoke, and no concert t-shirt (almost in dress clothes for gawds sake) Music that isn't even close to loud and with people that I actually remember and were old. (my age)

That is the definition, not really a number.


Gravatarpregnant teens are a fact of life


And we have people who want to ensure that there are more of them because they don't want sex education taught, they don't want kids to know about contraception and they insist that this "abstinence" nonsense works.


Gravatarin case you care.

annie leibovitz is going to be on rachel maddow talking about hunter s. thompson.

i've never really liked her work a hundred per cent, but i am jealous she got to worked with hunter thompson.


GravatarFirst concert, no kidding: Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention, 1967, maybe Fillmore East? Definitely St. Marks Place...
David Derbes

ok, you just broke the COOL meter. but i think i can fix it.


Gravatar"Here is 'Sususudo', one of my personal favorites!"
Supreme Commander Thor

It paid the bills.

He did some pretty nice stuff with Brand X around that time.


GravatarEarly Genesis were good, despite Phil Collins.

Peter Gabriel.

Genesis went completely to hell once Collins became the frontman.


GravatarThe hot flashes are killing me.
Terry C ♥s Pres. Obama


Mrs ct went through that. It seems like a biological injustice.


GravatarDon't watch these poor guys doing evictions on NBC.
-


GravatarTime to go make dinner. l8r!


Gravatarbut pregnant teens are a fact of life and some of them make very good parents.

they have the energy to keep up when older people may not, that's for sure.

i think it may focus some and give motive where there was none before.

i don't promote teen pregnancy by any stretch. (prevention, prevention, prevention, that's my motto) i just say it probably is not the end of the world the way we sometimes make it out to be. and that i just don't think it's the grandparents' fault.


GravatarKidnap and larkspur:

I feel sorry for all of Palin's kids.

I'm waiting for the Mommie Dearest type of tell-all from one of them a few years down the road.
Terry C ♥s Pres. Obama | Homepage | 12.19.08 - 9:02 pm | #

Worst of all, imagine if Sally or my childrn talked.

Oh, the scandal.


GravatarFirst concert, no kidding: Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention, 1967, maybe Fillmore East? Definitely St. Marks Place...
David Derbes


I had lunch with Zappa in 1969, at a hoagie shop in Philly.


GravatarThe hot flashes are killing me.
Terry C ♥s Pres. Obama

Mrs ct went through that. It seems like a biological injustice.
cosmic tumbler


That was a namestealer.

So fucked up it thinks menopause is something of which to be ashamed.


GravatarFoxtrot album is genuis. Early 1970s was a golden age. Even Norm Coleman was cool back then. Then it went to shit.


Gravatar"Oh I'm sorry I didn't know you had company"

And people mock etiquette as a useful skill. The art of gracefully exiting awkward situations is not to be sneezed at.


GravatarFirst rock concert- age 15, BTO, Eugene Armory


GravatarThat was a namestealer.

So fucked up it thinks menopause is something of which to be ashamed.
Terry C ♥s Pres. Obama


Sorry, I didn't notice. Name stealing seems to be rampant tonight.


GravatarPeter Gabriel.

Genesis went completely to hell once Collins became the frontman


I've mentioned this before, but if you are a fan of Gabriel era Genesis, you should see The Musical Box in concert if you get the chance.


GravatarLike I said, I wonder if the namestealing cowardly scumbag HAS any children.


GravatarI had lunch with Zappa in 1969, at a hoagie shop in Philly.
cosmic tumbler


Shut UP!


Gravatar"And we have people who want to ensure that there are more of them because they don't want sex education taught,"

davis, the teach for america kid across the hall (looks about 15 for gods sake) is really panicking that one our students is going to go into labor in her classroom. "what will I do if her water breaks in my class?"

My suggestion "call the custodian" was not appreciated...


GravatarThumper Johnson | 12.19.08 - 9:09 pm | #

Agree 100%.


GravatarGee, your hair smells TERRIFIC!

My hair smells like my tree-I got all kinds of sap on my head rescuing our cat when he climbed halfway up it and thought he was stuck.

Balsaam Fir for those split ends


GravatarYeah but Feral, they are doing the Collins stuff now.


Gravatarsex positive


putting it where it belongs! :D


GravatarSorry, I didn't notice. Name stealing seems to be rampant tonight.
cosmic tumbler


The last couple of nights.

Seems to have a particular problem with sallyh and me.

Doesn't like women at all.


GravatarGive the Palins their own tv show. Have the announcer and presenter of advertisements be Bernard Madov. "Just for you my friends..."


GravatarShut UP!
Ali, en vacance


True, he sat down next to me with both of his drummers. I was blown away. We talked and had a great lunch.


GravatarPeter Gabriel.

Genesis went completely to hell once Collins became the frontman


Gabriel's shitty works are far better than 95% of what others have put out.


GravatarTerry C, I have an idea for a business. It'd be good around this time of year. We could heat peoples' swimming pools. We'd get a bunch of us flashin' women together (we could call it an easy bake coven, but that name's been taken, alas) and make the rounds in our pink RV with stars on the ceiling, mumble our faux incantations, put our hands in the water, and zippedy doo dah, it's time for a winter swim.


GravatarFirst rock concert- age 15, BTO, Eugene Armory

Saw BTO after their 3rd LP. Put on a good show. Trying to remember the opening act...


GravatarProblem is the left doesn't want to get its hands dirty like in the 60s. No one fears the left. Obama certainly doesn't. That's the ultimate problem with the left today. Obama is a false prophet.


GravatarFirst concert as a youn'un - Ides of March.


I'm yo' vehicle bay-beh
I'll take ya anywhere ya wanna go
I'm yo vehicle bay-beh
And by now I'm shure ya know...


Blood, Sweat, and Tears with a little bit of a harder rock edge.

Loved that shit.


GravatarCrystal is a good name for a girl..How about Metthew for a boy..
DuaneV, AlfFan


wtf, why not just name your kid 'Piper' or something?


Gravatarlarkspur | 12.19.08 - 9:15 pm



I LIKE that! Innovative, to say the least.


GravatarI've mentioned this before, but if you are a fan of Gabriel era Genesis, you should see The Musical Box in concert if you get the chance.

I'm so unhip and out of the loop I had to google The Musical Box.

Thanks for the heads up.


GravatarYeah but Feral, they are doing the Collins stuff now

NOOOOOOOOO!!!!


GravatarIt had to be done
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e...h? v=eZtZ9PmMJDg


GravatarI love Vehicle billy b


GravatarOh, darn, I wasted good material on a name stealer? How embarrassing.


GravatarOne of the first concerts I went to was a small outdoor gig by the Amazing Rhythm Aces just as their one-hit-wonder "Third Rate Romance" was starting to chart. Little did I suspect that 13 years later I'd marry the lead singer's ex-wife.


GravatarObama better repeal Don't Ask Don't Tell the first month he's in Office if he wants us to calm down on Warren


GravatarObama is a false prophet.
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Not looking for a political prophet, would settle for competence.


GravatarOh, that link is early Genesis with Gabriel


GravatarYes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I...h? v=Is1oTQj5gRk


GravatarOh, darn, I wasted good material on a name stealer? How embarrassing.
larkspur


That's okay - if the bottom feeder thinks there's something wrong with menopause and hot flashes, HE has the problem, not us.


GravatarAny shit 20 something band of today can't rock like early Genesis.


GravatarThx, Terry C. Bless your heart. I'm off to forage something for dinner. Hee. Don't even need to use my microwave any more.


Gravatarlol, blodge

i had a lit prof waaaaay back when i was pregnant with my second who claimed to be carrying a pair of scissors in his briefcase in case the blessed event occurred during class.

he really wanted to cut the cord. weird.

i probably should not have been wearing those shortie maternity dresses to his class.


GravatarLoved that shit.

There were a number of groups in that mode at the time. Remember Bill Chase?


GravatarFirst concert: James Brown

Second concert: The Animals

Best concert of the 1960: Chambers Brothers in Cafe 47 in Cambridge.


GravatarI am sorry to say, as I have mentioned before, that Van Halen was the first concert I saw. Me, three friends, my dad driving, for my 14th bd.


GravatarRachel's french is much better than Keith's!


GravatarFirst concert, no kidding: Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention, 1967, maybe Fillmore East? Definitely St. Marks Place...
David Derbes


My first concert at Fillmore East was The Band. 1970 I think.


GravatarTrue, he sat down next to me with both of his drummers. I was blown away. We talked and had a great lunch.
cosmic tumbler


Just incredible. He's a hero of mine.


GravatarShe came out later and we talked.
I apologized for surprising her she said it was no big deal she didn't intent to have guests but her boyfriend had called to invite her out to lunch.
Part 1

(My comedic mind went into overdrive. I was DYING to make a comment about this. But which ONE?

"So you decided to dine in?"

"Is he dessert or an appetizer?"

"Still not well enough for solid foods?"

I think I stammered something and made a note to think of the perfect comment at a later date.

Interestingly she once told me that she had a sexual dream about me (she was very much involved with her boyfriend at the time) and she said, "It was WILD you had a HUGE (slang term for a certain body part) and knew how to use it.

I said, "I'm glad I'm able to satisfy you in your dreams. I'm sorry I can't confirm or deny the other part of your dream."


GravatarMy first concert at Fillmore East was The Band. 1970 I think.
Libby, limping


Never saw them live, one of my regrets.


Gravatargots to go

thanks for the great comapny

later


Gravatarwtf, why not just name your kid 'Piper' or something?
focus, 2nd shoeter


Arson.


GravatarI love Vehicle billy b


Vehicle was one of those great fucking tunes that made it into the upper reaches of the top 40 for about a week or so way back when. The first time you heard the song, it hit you right between the eyes. Like, yeah....


Gravatar"he really wanted to cut the cord. weird."

she can have the kid out of school, it'd be ok.

seen 3 births. was the "head nurse" at the first, as it was an emergency home birth and somebody had to help the midwife.

second - routine but i cut the chord.

3rd - the midwife said hell you can do this so I actually delivered my third


GravatarMy first concert at Fillmore East was The Band. 1970 I think.
Libby, limping


How are you feeling, Libby? Any better?

One of the very few things I got from the ex was an appreciation of Zappa and his music.


GravatarI saw my first concert when I was 13 months old.


GravatarFirst rock concert ...age 15 ...1978 Boston...at the Hollywood sportatorium ...Fla.


Gravatarso many here among us that think life is just a fuck'n joke..."

the 90s had some good bands.


GravatarI love Vehicle billy b


Me, too. One of my all time favorites.


Gravatar"I had lunch with Zappa in 1969, at a hoagie shop in Philly.
cosmic tumbler"

NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Gravatar"My first concert at Fillmore East was The Band. 1970 I think.
Libby, limping

Never saw them live, one of my regrets."

I did in the 80s, al stewart opened

mann music center


Gravatar"I had lunch with Zappa in 1969, at a hoagie shop in Philly.
cosmic tumbler"

NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jdw


Way.


GravatarHow are you feeling, Libby? Any better?

It's improving thanks. The RICE thing seems to working. Developing a very impressive bruise at this point but I'm limping around without hanging onto the counters and walls.


And Zappa totally rocks. One of my regrets is that I never saw him live.


Gravatar"I saw my first concert when I was 13 months old."

my oldest saw John Gorka at one month old


Gravatarthe 90s had some good bands

There's always been some great music being made, sometimes you just had to look a little harder...


GravatarMy first real concert was Emerson Lake and Palmer.


GravatarAlways reminds me of senior year in high school:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e...h?v=e-OnIf-s- YY


Gravatar"I had lunch with Zappa in 1969, at a hoagie shop in Philly.
cosmic tumbler"


I had lunch with Spencer Davis at a Burger King last spring.


GravatarSaw Zappa at the Tower Theater in Upper Darby, Pa in 1987.


GravatarAnd Zappa totally rocks. One of my regrets is that I never saw him live

Brown County Arena in Green Bay, Wis. circa 1977.


Gravatarspocko



I am biting my lip, trying to decide if I have to leave so as not to tell the stories I have.

Fortunately I am not drunk tonight.


GravatarMy ex saw Zappa twice. Both times in Montreal.


GravatarFirst concert as a youn'un - Ides of March.

Blood, Sweat, and Tears with a little bit of a harder rock edge.


Oddly, enough, my first concert was Blood, Sweat & Tears.

David Clayton-Thomas came out with a "Flying V" guitar, which I'd never seen before, for "Go Down Gamblin'," not yet released. Rather "hard rock" for the time.

(Opening the show - the then-unknown Don McLean....)


GravatarAnd Zappa totally rocks. One of my regrets is that I never saw him live.
Libby, limping


After my lunch with him at the hoagie shop, I saw him in concert that evening. It was before he was really understood. He and his band(I loved the two drummers) played for about an hour and did not get a good audience response, so he says "I guess I know where I am, this is for you assholes" and begins to play country music. Blew me away.


GravatarYeah sure ya did, and I had breakfast with Dean Martin and Rosemary Clooney.


GravatarFirst rock? concert. I had to think on this for a while.....
Sam the Sham and the Pharaohs, Little Red Riding Hood
.


Gravatar"Way."

freak out!


GravatarMy first real concert was Emerson Lake and Palmer.
spocko | Homepage | 12.19.08 - 9:25 pm | #


wow, you bastard.


GravatarFirst concert: James Brown

you're old.

my first concert, a much older robin trower


GravatarI saw Zappa shoot a man in Reno...
.


Gravatarmrs. f
that's sweet. My dad also drove bf and me to a concert 100 miles away when i was 15-16. Waited for us in a bar then drove back. He must have been a tad hammered. He would have like the concert(Chicago) as much as we, but didn't want to spoil our fun.


Gravatar"My first real concert was Emerson Lake and Palmer."

saw em

works tour sans orchestra

got wasted


Gravatargoing to bed early

au revoir all!

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod...d/ ap081219.html

(the large cloud of Magellan)


GravatarFirst rock? concert. I had to think on this for a while.....
Sam the Sham and the Pharaohs, Little Red Riding Hood
.


Wow.

Teh cool.


GravatarI'd forgotten that I ran out of catsup, but I'm glad I did. I used malt vinegar on my tots. Yummo!
.


Gravatarmy first concert, a much older robin trower

Saw Trower in '76. You could get high just breathing.


GravatarMy friend saw the Beatles in 1964. But not me, I was a little young back then.


Gravatarmy wife saw jimi before he was famous at the cellar doors in chicago.

and she didn't like him.

wtf?


GravatarFirst rock? concert. I had to think on this for a while.....
Sam the Sham and the Pharaohs, Little Red Riding Hood


That would have been around 1965?


GravatarBon Nuit plum p!


GravatarSweet dreams Plum P, and thanks.


GravatarFreshman year in college, 1971. Randy Newman.


Gravatarsaw zappa maybe 6-8 times.

first concert...hmmm...i think it was bob seger with starz opening, or maybe it was jefferson shitplane with jeff beck opening. *that* was a travesty.


GravatarMy very first real concert was Vanilla Fudge. Candlewood Theater in Brookfield CT.


Gravataranyone visited this museum?

http://www.hashmuseum.com/


GravatarYeah sure ya did, and I had breakfast with Dean Martin and Rosemary Clooney.
rob


That's nice, now grow up.


GravatarGeeze. My live music experience has been rather dull and pedestrian compared to youse guys. Could rarely afford tickets to anything.

I THINK the first concert I saw was Journey. Then Adam Ant. Then Depeche Mode (which was cool).

That's probably it.

I'm very boring.


Gravatar"Saw Trower in '76. You could get high just breathing."

my gf of the time and I went to the doobies and got stuck in the rafters of the spectrum.

she said an hour in - is getting high like this? I said yeah.

she said wow I'm high

then giggled a LOT


Gravatarbilly b
Thanks, ...creeks back into corner.
.


GravatarThat's nice, now grow up.
cosmic tumbler


Shame he's not in the same condition as they are.


GravatarThat's nice, now grow up.



Gravataror maybe it was jefferson shitplane with jeff beck opening

Saw Beck (with Jan Hammer) opening for Fleetwood Mac. That was an odd pairing.


Gravatarseals and crofts '74 or 5


Gravatarshe said wow I'm high

then giggled a LOT
Uncle Blodge, Total Sap,


Same thing happened to me last year at the Stones. Hadn't been high in probably 20 years.


GravatarErin

My dad sat in the car, smoking and reading a book, waiting for us.

Sweet guy....... different than the girls and I at the Grateful Dead.


GravatarThe Newman concert was free. Paid for out of student association fees.


Gravatar"I guess I know where I am, this is for you assholes" and begins to play country music.



GravatarSaw Beck (with Jan Hammer) opening for Fleetwood Mac. That was an odd pairing.
FeralLiberal

Actually, that is not a bad balance.


Gravatarcosmic tumbler | 12.19.08 - 9:30 pm | # Keep goin back son.
.


Gravatarbilly b
Thanks, ...creeks back into corner.


why you crawl back in corner?

any cat what goes by bluesman is cool by me...



Gravatar"help, i'm a rock...help, i'm a rock...help, i'm a cop"
----frank zappa "frerak out" 1966


GravatarI remember the bass guitar making my testicles vibrate....at age 15 I'd never felt that before...

I must have been in the right spot.


Gravatarwho have you seen the most times?

For me it was either The Crusaders, Santana, or TP.


Gravatarwho have you seen the most times?

For me it was either The Crusaders, Santana, or TP.
ErinPDX


Springsteen.


GravatarKiss, Alive II tour, Huntington, WV. 1977?
.


Gravatar"Saw Beck (with Jan Hammer) opening for Fleetwood Mac."

i think it was the wired tour when i saw them? anyway, jeffshitplane was total crap.

"seals and crofts '74 or 5"

saw them around the same time, first date with l_____, and on the ride home got some titty and sheathed wooly. made it worth it, almost. wtf, i was 14 or so...


Gravatardeadhead


GravatarMy first real concert was Corey Heart.

You know you're jealous.


GravatarI've seen Holdsworth the most. And that wasn't easy!
.


GravatarWhoops, it's Hart. I guess I had a crush on him, lol.


GravatarActually, that is not a bad balance

It was a fun show, but Beck in his fusion period really turned off the folks there to hear Fleetwood Mac's hits.


GravatarI saw Max Webster a dozen or so times. I'm not proud of it.


Gravatarcosmic tumbler | 12.19.08 - 9:30 pm | # Keep goin back son.
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bluesman,Atlatlcommandoloon | 12.19.08 - 9:34 pm |


I would have guessed 63.


Gravatar"who have you seen the most times?"

count basie.


Gravatarrobin, probably what he looked like when i first saw him.


GravatarIt was a fun show, but Beck in his fusion period really turned off the folks there to hear Fleetwood Mac's hits.
FeralLiberal


I can see that.


Gravatar"who have you seen the most times?"


Koko Taylor


GravatarWait, wait. You go watch performers more than ONCE?

A whole chunk of life has passed me by


Gravatar"who have you seen the most times?"

3 way tie

Moody Blues

Doobie Brothers

Blue Oyster Cult


Gravatarwho have you seen the most times?

Neil Young.


GravatarSpringsteen.
cosmic tumbler |

Aaaagh. I slept overnight outside of a mall on the sidewalk in line for tickets for Bruce. [shrugs] I had good seats. Didn't sit.


GravatarI've seen The Violent Femmes way too many times, and I didn't actually even want to see them once. I've seen Metallica three times.


Gravatarms fahrenheit/stop the war

As much as I'd LOVE to hear the stories I applaud your restraint. I tell my clients. "The internet is forever." Don't be putting into print stuff that you don't want to be associated with, even if you do it under a nym. And especially if you are going to be stupid and talk about violence or defamation.

That's also one of the reasons I rarely swear, but I don't mind if others do in the right venue. It's one of those things that I don't want the other side to use against me. When you are dealing with a regulated industry like the radio industry they like to hold the "high moral ground" of not having any swearing. Of course they also have a seven second delay and other people looking out for them.

If someone wanted to ask if I stood behind what I wrote I could say yes. I know that I respect the need of pseudonyms but I know that a person(s) motivated to attack me could find out who I was and would use my writings against me, I try not to give them ammo. I don't have the powers of the state to declare my communications "a national secret", delete millions of emails, or to have someone arrested and fined for a privacy violation. (Like the kid who hacked Palin's Yahoo account.

So save the stories until we are all at a EschaCon Party together!


GravatarMax Webster?

that tall gawky guy what was his name- Kim Mitchell?


GravatarSeconded by Buddy Guy.


GravatarFor a rock band......most times


Jethro Tull...twice


GravatarI saw the Ramones in 1979. That was cool.


GravatarAaaagh. I slept overnight outside of a mall on the sidewalk in line for tickets for Bruce. [shrugs] I had good seats. Didn't sit.
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars


Few do.


Gravatar"I can see that."

yup. not a good fit there.


Gravatarthat tall gawky guy what was his name- Kim Mitchell?
nick carraway


Good memory!


Gravatar"who have you seen the most times?"

Willie Nelson - maybe 20 xs (parents were big fans)


Gravatarhttp://missannieangel.blogspot.c...ame- uptown.html

Check out the great backstage shot of Kim Mitchell I got this summer.


GravatarFirst concert, no kidding: Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention, 1967, maybe Fillmore East? Definitely St. Marks Place...
David Derbes


Garrick Theatre?

I would buy a ticket for that nights concert but go early to listen to them practice.Their humor was hilarious.


Gravatarshrub legacy

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/ho...ate.asp? ID=1878


Gravatar63 is correct. Conneaut Lake Park Ball Room. I be dancin long ago.
.


GravatarSpeaking of music...


Gravatarcosmo t -

Re: the Band.

Two of Ronnie Hawkins' Hawks were from my hometown - Jimmy Paulman (Luke in "The Weight") and Will 'Pop' Jones. Jones' wife taught me piano.

Levon was from Marvell, about 22 miles from there.

Of course, I can't say I had lunch with FZ.

heh.


GravatarI've seen Holdsworth the most. And that wasn't easy!
.
Jeffraham Prestonian

Hee!

Jethro Tull...twice
me too


GravatarErin

I hate you for asking, and please remember I was young and wasted the entire time, but I saw Van Halen seven times.

I had a head injury, if you recall.


Gravatarbest show?


Gravatarbilly b -

Wow. Music in the blood.


GravatarSo is Gomez advertising on the front page now?


Gravatarbest show?
jdw


Springsteen.


Gravatar ErinPDX: Hee!

I bet I've seen Holdsworth more than anyone who doesn't live in NYC or Tokyo.
.


Gravatarbut I saw Van Halen seven times


way less than hard core deadheads


GravatarActually if you count folkies I've seen trout fishing in america 4 times (used to be on a howya doin basis with the tall guy) and gorka 6


Gravatarbest show

Alice Cooper Nightmare Returns.


GravatarI didn't follow big name bands much. I think the only ones I've seen more than once were Paul Winter Consort and Loudon Wainwright.

I used to support my local bands and see them whenever they played. I could name a dozen you never heard of.


Gravatarjeff beck wired fav. album as a kid.


GravatarActually if you count folkies I've seen trout fishing in america 4 times (used to be on a howya doin basis with the tall guy) and gorka 6
Uncle Blodge, Total Sap


Used to listen to trout fishing on WXPN.


GravatarSeen this woman too many times to remember.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R...h? v=RR5MR1IwOn4


GravatarSaw Springsteen two nights running in Minneapolis- makeup dates after the end of the reunion tour with the E Street Band in - '99 or so? First night was a little rusty- but still really good. The second night? My brother, who's been to a lot more concerts that I'll ever get to, said he'd never seen the crowd so into a show as that one was. It was great.

Stood the whole time, both shows...


Gravatarg'd'evening folks ....


GravatarI saw the Ramones in 1979.

1978. Almost exactly 30 years ago. The Tubes, the Ramones, and SVT at Winterland, which closed a few days later.


GravatarI saw Rush a buncha times, too.


Gravatarwho have you seen the most times?

the Dead, 51 times.

sort of embarrasing


Gravatarones i saw the most were before they made records: Robert Cray, Tuck & Patti


GravatarI think I may have seen Jethro Tull twice as well, but one time they opened for someone else.


GravatarRush was my second concert. I sneaked onto the floors, front row.


Gravatardeadhead
notaboomer, shitpile guarantor | Homepage | 12.19.08 - 9:37 pm | #

I'm a deadhead too.....
many dozens of shows..east and west.

Just saw Phil in Atlanta....


GravatarI saw Rush a buncha times, too.
Ali, en vacance


GravatarI love Willie Nelson...have never seen him live.


GravatarTalking Heads were really really good in concert.


Gravatar"Used to listen to trout fishing on WXPN."

Lucky guy and sleepytime cartoon have been themes of mine at times.


Gravatar63 is correct. Conneaut Lake Park Ball Room


No fucking way. Geez what if I know you? Wouldn't that be a great place to spend Halloween? Spooky now.


GravatarI think I saw Rush five times. I'm more embarrassed by that than seeing Kiss, once.
.


GravatarSpeaking of music...
NTodd,


that is something the dead figured out way back. most bands i see have tapers. it's like open source, maaaan.


GravatarThe Rick Warren interview is on Dateline now, view at risk of putting your foot thru the tubes.


GravatarWe are watching the 2007 film "Married Life." So far everyone in the film seems to have bright blue eyes ...


GravatarGotta go. It's been fun, once again.


Gravatarthink I saw Rush five times. I'm more embarrassed by that than seeing Kiss, once.
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Jeffraham Prestonian


They were local boys! It was peer pressure! I, er liked them.


Gravatar"I think I saw Rush five times. I'm more embarrassed by that than seeing Kiss, once."



oh man...........


Gravatarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r...h? v=rs4qn_bHQQ0

Check this out Ali.


GravatarTW4, 3 times...before they became STYX. Two of the band members went to my high school.


Gravatari got to see iron butterfly play all 16 minutes of "in-a-gadda-da-vida" at univ of delaware in 1968.


GravatarBlogger is messed. No new thread for you.


GravatarRick Warren is picking and choosing bible laws he deems necessary to follow.


GravatarCheck this out Ali.
annie |


Oh yeah, I saw that episode with Alex Lifeson. Hilarious.

But Bubbles is GOOD!


GravatarTalking Heads were really really good in concert.

Saw them in a small club just before they released "More Songs About Buildings And Food". Cutting edge...


GravatarJust saw Phil in Atlanta....
dusty c.


the Dead, 51 times.

sort of embarrasing
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari


seeing phil & bobby on nye this year. embarrasing? 51 shows, you must have liked it. what a great slice of life. cheers.


GravatarMy roommate is visiting his mother

I hope it goes well


GravatarAnd the Barenaked Ladies guy too!

I miss TPB.


GravatarRush was my first concert!

Most frequent, probably the Ramones, well over 20+ times.


Gravatarworst show?

maybe van halen. just horrible. a crime against humanity. terrible. ear assault. an insult to the equipment.


GravatarI think I saw Rush five times. I'm more embarrassed by that than seeing Kiss, once.


The Village People opened for someone I saw once, and so did Kiss. Nothing could be done. Smoke.

Bruce played four hours.

When ZZ TOP played two and quit, I thought there were going to be riots.
.


GravatarI just read 'This Wheel's on Fire', Levon Helm's side of the Band story... has a real knockabout charm to it. That Ronnie Hawkins was a real piece of work.

I'd like to see one of the Midnight Rambles that they put on in Levon's barn in upstate New York.


Gravatarms fahrenheit/stop the wars | 12.19.08 - 9:46 pm | #

Some fuckin 19 year old kid from the Hartstown VFD burnt it down last year. Not much left except the hotel for halloween and the Barbra J ferry ride. The latter is a good party.
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GravatarThe Rick Warren interview is on Dateline now, view at risk of putting your foot thru the tubes.
Thumper Johnson
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You should check out this thread at FDL yesterday. They got a very confused person talking about marriage. He clearly was a Rick Warren supporter.
Jane Hamsher was on CNN talking about Rick Warren and his views. In the treads we got a couple of posters who decided to tell Jane how wrong she is about the bible and the word marriage.

It was rather amusing but also sad because the arguments he was using were some of the same as our least favorite talk radio host.

He was also going on about sex as a sin of the flesh. It was like he was getting his views of the bible from the Mom in the movie Carrie. I expected him to call breasts "dirty pillows"
Several people, including myself, tried to engage him, but he couldn't support his arguments.

I blame his teachers. I do wish I could have found out who there were.
Here is his most bizarre comment.
http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/1...comment- 1764452

And here was my reply.
http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/1...comment- 1764894


GravatarPet peeve: in Warren discussions, people referring to Obama's "calculations" on this issue. It's an article of faith for me, and perhaps a naive one, that Obama didn't make this selection to attempt to cut into this or that voting bloc with an eye toward 2012, but that he believes this was fundamentally the right thing to do. I disagree with him on that point, but I just don't see him as the type to view everything through such a coldly political lens.


Gravatarstevie and jeff.

i've seen jackson and bob the most times. i don't even like jackson that much. but i did see dylan run on the bus, 15 feet from me, and he was a scared... i flashed him a peace sign so it's all good.


GravatarI only saw the Dead once, but I'm still listening to one of the fucking solos.


GravatarRush played my high school, two years before I got there.


GravatarThe Rick Warren interview is on Dateline now, view at risk of putting your foot thru the tubes.


Thanks I will pass ... Rick Warren is the week's big winner, no? Whether he gives the invocation or Obama pulls him, it doesn't matter, he's officially "America's Pastor" now ...

James Dobson, Joel Osteen, Bishop Jakes, Franklin Graham, sorr-eee! You are the week's biggest losers!!!


GravatarEarly Genesis were good, despite Phil Collins.
Shared Humanity

Should never have let him out from behind the drums...


Gravataronly saw the Dead once, but I'm still listening to one of the fucking solos.
Thers |




Gravatarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r...h? v=rs4qn_bHQQ0

Check this out Ali.
annie


Thanks for that one, annie. I really enjoyed it.

I just sent it to a friend who's been a Rush fan for about as long as Rush as been a band.


Gravatar"I only saw the Dead once, but I'm still listening to one of the fucking solos."

tweedle deeedle
tweetle deedle tweetle.


Gravatarmy Springsteen story

I was asked my some DFH's I knew to go and pass out leaflets for some cause at a concert at the Vet. said nah...

Asked the guy how it went and he said well, bruce heard what we were doing and invited us backstage before the show and talked with out for 1/2 an hour.

right up there with my decision to turn down a job writing for rawstory


Gravatarworst show?

Deep Purple - the classic lineup with Richie Blackmore, Jon Lord and Ian Gillan. They just didn't get it together that night.

But the opening band was Electric Light Orchestra. Few had heard of them then, they blew the roof off!


Gravatarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch? v=c...feature=related

Bubbles when he was with Sandbox. They were pretty good, I liked Collide but there are no good audios of it.


Gravatari amout. i recommend umphrey's mcgee if you want good jamband with a little metal edge to it. and yonder mountain string band if you like jamgrass. also good in this genre (less jammy) are infamous stringdusters.


Gravatarannie is on, which is no big deal.

but, if she talks about hunter...


GravatarThanks Spocko, I'll do that now.

Laterz.


GravatarI love Willie Nelson...have never seen him live. - Shared Humanity

a-fucking-mazing, saw him just this last summer @ Santa Barbara Bowl old bastard did 2 hours - said he owed his stamina to "running and pot" . my bros got me b-day tickets for this Jan' @ The Majestic Ventura Theatre...
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GravatarRush was my first concert!


John Denver. The Los Angeles Forum. 1973. I was 12.

Sue me.


GravatarThey got a very confused person talking about marriage. He clearly was a Rick Warren supporter.
Jane Hamsher was on CNN talking about Rick Warren and his views. In the treads we got a couple of posters who decided to tell Jane how wrong she is about the bible and the word marriage.



They probably can't even get laid.


Gravatartweedle deeedle
tweetle deedle tweetle.


If I had but weed enough and time...


GravatarGlad you liked it Terry, hope your friend does too.


Gravatarwe saw a lot of Dead shows while in high school, but my favorite was 3 nights at the Cape Cod Coliseum. no wait, the outdoor show in Lewiston, Maine. no wait...

when I was at NYU I saw them play at Radio City Music Hall. by then I was already seeing Television, and Ramones, and the first Somic Youth shows, and Dead Kennedy's.

later, out West the Chinese New Year's shows at the Kaiser in Oakland were also really good, but by then the Dead was a nostalgia act for me.


GravatarSaw them in a small club just before they released "More Songs About Buildings And Food". Cutting edge...
FeralLiberal

Kool..


GravatarWow. Music in the blood.


I wish I'd paid more attention back then....

The Mississippi River Delta was pretty crazy. Lots of shit going down at the time.


GravatarMy best concert is still Led Zeppelin at Nassau Coliseum in 70, I think. Maybe 71.


Gravatarworst show?
Stills and Young at the Capital Center. Neal Young had an orange leisure suit on. Stephen Stills was so high he actually fell on the drum set.


GravatarGlad you liked it Terry, hope your friend does too.
annie


She will. MAJOR Rush fan.


Gravatargood evening, everyone.

got some comics with kids at the homepage.


GravatarJohn Denver. The Los Angeles Forum. 1973. I was 12.

Sue me.
Southern Beale

Good lord...


Gravatar"John Denver. The Los Angeles Forum. 1973. I was 12.

Sue me."

took a younger friend to see blue oyster cult - second concert for him ever.

his comment on leaving?

wow that was even louder than linda ronstat


GravatarBest show ever, Redd Kross at the Old Ritz, doing lots and lots of stuff from "Jesus Christ Superstar." Outstanding.


GravatarMy best concert is still Led Zeppelin at Nassau Coliseum in 70, I think. Maybe 71.


heh.

No surprise there.

Damn.


GravatarHad the chance to see Willie & Dylan play the minor league ballpark at Rochester MN (hour+ drive, no big deal) and passed it up... those were supposed to be pretty fun shows.


GravatarSome fuckin 19 year old kid from the Hartstown VFD burnt it down last year.

I didn't even realize, but that would make Halloween even spookier.

Thers


Blodge

You needed to be a Banger Sister. My high school friends all call me that now, and I'm not quite sure why.


Gravatarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F...h? v=FQMNCMuELGA

Send her these, Terry, if she hasn't seen it. This is part one, there are three.

If she loves Rush, she'll love this.


GravatarSue me.
Southern Beale


I'm not gonna sue you. But I may mock you a little.


GravatarGood lord...
DuaneV


I TOLD you I was old!!!!!!!


GravatarMy best concert is still Led Zeppelin at Nassau Coliseum in 70, I think. Maybe 71.
Libby, limping

Wow. I saw Nirvana in '93.

Springsteen was great, too.


GravatarStills and Young at the Capital Center

Bill, was that the Stills-Young band tour? I had tickets for their Milwaukee show (still do) which was never held after they got into a fight and cancelled the rest of the tour.


GravatarI TOLD you I was old!!!!!!!
Southern Beale



Young at heart...

(heh,heh)


GravatarBut I may mock you a little.
Ali


Well, laugh all you want but we had a great time!

{raspberry}

It started my lifelong love of acoustic music....


GravatarEverybody's gonna laugh, but Coldplay was pretty good last summer. Funny and self-deprecating.


GravatarBill, was that the Stills-Young band tour? I had tickets for their Milwaukee show (still do) which was never held after they got into a fight and cancelled the rest of the tour.
FeralLiberal

Back in 1976. They were really out of sync and terrible


Gravatars h 0 0 z
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Gravatar"You needed to be a Banger Sister."

why exactly would you like me to be a woman?


GravatarLotsa great Sonic Youth shows...


GravatarN E W

S H O E S


Gravatari amout. i recommend umphrey's mcgee i

I saw the guy from umphrey's' jam with Warren Haynes ...at the Christmas Jam..
OMG....They were in each others skulls..


GravatarRed Kross were fucking awesome. saw them in LA a few times. also, any Tad fans hereabouts?


GravatarEverybody's gonna laugh, but Coldplay was pretty good last summer. Funny and self-deprecating.
Ali, en vacance


They were here in Philly on my birthday.

And I did not have the funds for tickets. I would LOVED to have gone.


GravatarThe Police in '83. U2 on the Unforgettable Fire tour...


GravatarColdplay was pretty good last summer. Funny and self-deprecating.

The Extras episode was funny. "Gwyneth's making drumsticks!"


GravatarDylan and Joni Mitchell..