There's something very xian about that.
that one, now preznit |
12.05.08 - 9:35 pm | #
Echidne, I haven't been in anything but the market and the pharmacy lately, so I don't know how it's going out there.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
12.05.08 - 9:35 pm | #
Rachel pretty much just accused Lindsey Graham and Joe Lieberman of stalking the hunky young king of Bhutan
BlueinColorado |
12.05.08 - 9:36 pm | #
Rachel pretty much just accused Lindsey Graham and Joe Lieberman of stalking the hunky young king of Bhutan
BlueinColorado
So, you have a fever as well?
cosmic tumbler |
12.05.08 - 9:37 pm | #
OK, London goes back to the Romans. And by the time that the Colonies were thriving, London had a population of ~ 700,000.
Where did all of the poop go? This was 100 years before indoor plumbing and toilets and municipal waste treatment plants.
MP |
12.05.08 - 9:37 pm | #
Rachel pretty much just accused Lindsey Graham and Joe Lieberman of stalking the hunky young king of Bhutan
BlueinColorado
Well, now that McCain has called off the circle jerk, they have plenty of free time.
that one, now preznit |
12.05.08 - 9:37 pm | #
There's something very xian about that.
My mom always told me not to play with my food, now I know why.
Thumper Johnson |
12.05.08 - 9:37 pm | #
I went to a very upper-crust mall.
Chestnut Hill? Did you say hello to my personal hero Mike Barnicle?
bill buckner |
12.05.08 - 9:37 pm | #
I went to a very upper-crust mall. Workers were worried.
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The bookstore was pretty crowded, up here. Don't know about anything else....
We bought LED Christmas lights, so we've done our part.
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12.05.08 - 9:37 pm | #
Larry King has game show host Ben Stein and wannabe-game show host John Stossel on to discuss the Depression and bail out
BlueinColorado |
12.05.08 - 9:37 pm | #
Where did all of the poop go? This was 100 years before indoor plumbing and toilets and municipal waste treatment plants.
They had outdoor toilets, I think. Probably would be cleaned a couple of times a year. Compost?
Echidne |
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12.05.08 - 9:38 pm | #
Where did all of the poop go? This was 100 years before indoor plumbing and toilets and municipal waste treatment plants.
MP | 12.05.08 - 9:37 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
It went into the streets and the river, mostly. That didn't change much 'til the 1850s, IIRC.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.05.08 - 9:38 pm | #
Larry King has game show host Ben Stein and wannabe-game show host John Stossel on to discuss the Depression and bail out
BlueinColorado
Take two aspirins and call your doc in the morning.
cosmic tumbler |
12.05.08 - 9:38 pm | #
Larry King has game show host Ben Stein and wannabe-game show host John Stossel on to discuss the Depression and bail out
BlueinColorado
All you need is Dennis Miller in there and you'll hit the scumbag trifecta.
that one, now preznit |
12.05.08 - 9:39 pm | #
Rachel pretty much just accused Lindsey Graham and Joe Lieberman of stalking the hunky young king of Bhutan
Graham, I would believe.
I don't think even hawt young king ass would get Fudd off.
theodoric of athens |
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12.05.08 - 9:39 pm | #
Chestnut Hill? Did you say hello to my personal hero Mike Barnicle?
I got Joe LieberFever
BlueinColorado |
12.05.08 - 9:39 pm | #
Too bad GM doesn't build The very fine Maverick Luxury Station Wagon Limited like they used to back in the day. That was such a fine car.
Ford Rambler |
12.05.08 - 9:39 pm | #
still pretty busy at the big regional mall over here...but a number of big boxes have closed in the mini malls
ErinPDX |
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12.05.08 - 9:40 pm | #
Larry King has game show host Ben Stein and wannabe-game show host John Stossel on to discuss the Depression and bail out
BlueinColorado
So Stossel is still allowed on TV after falsifying lab results to make organic food seem unsafe?
I am very fond of the Long Ryders' cover of that...
bill buckner |
12.05.08 - 9:41 pm | #
Stossel and Medved are the same person.
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12.05.08 - 9:41 pm | #
Damn. Ordered a pizza and they brought the wrong pizza.
So I calls and they're sending me a new pizza, but I wonder if I should eat the one they sent in the meantime, BECAUSE I'M REALLY STARVING!!
fourlegsgood, darksider |
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12.05.08 - 9:41 pm | #
Can Bush be persuaded to, you know, step down early?
I bet he could. You know he's bored and would probably rather just go hang out.
Buzz Bomb |
12.05.08 - 9:41 pm | #
4Legs, you shuld eats both. Dey can no take back pizza wuns delivrd.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
12.05.08 - 9:42 pm | #
So Stossel is still allowed on TV after falsifying lab results to make organic food seem unsafe?
He did that?
That's low even for him. And he's a gigantic asshole.
fourlegsgood, darksider |
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12.05.08 - 9:42 pm | #
Damn. Ordered a pizza and they brought the wrong pizza.
Is it Dominos or Papa John's? Because then it's definitely the wrong pizza.
If not, have at it!
Buzz Bomb |
12.05.08 - 9:42 pm | #
So I calls and they're sending me a new pizza, but I wonder if I should eat the one they sent in the meantime, BECAUSE I'M REALLY STARVING!!
fourlegsgood, darksider |
4Legs, you shuld eats both. Dey can no take back pizza wuns delivrd.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 12.05.08 - 9:42 pm | #
Good point!
I don't really want pepperoni, but I am starving.
Niece will eat it later.
fourlegsgood, darksider |
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12.05.08 - 9:43 pm | #
Is it Dominos or Papa John's? Because then it's definitely the wrong pizza.
Buzz Bomb |
It's a hot circle of garbage!!!
BlueinColorado |
12.05.08 - 9:43 pm | #
Can Bush be persuaded to, you know, step down early?
Perhaps, but they're already ordering the detonation packs for Cheney's relocation.
that one, now preznit |
12.05.08 - 9:43 pm | #
am very fond of the Long Ryders' cover of that...
I was just listening to the Gram/Emmylou cover. Fantastic.
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12.05.08 - 9:44 pm | #
Is it Dominos or Papa John's? Because then it's definitely the wrong pizza.
[hangs haid in shame]
in mah defense, they're across the street and I wuz STARVING!!!!!!
fourlegsgood, darksider |
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12.05.08 - 9:44 pm | #
I'm going to buy a floor lamp for myself this year. To help the economy. Also to replace the one I got at Sally Army fifteen years ago.
Echidne |
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12.05.08 - 9:44 pm | #
And for dessert...
Frozen yogurt seems to be back. I remember it was real big in the 80s. In the 90s it faded and everyone wanted smoothies, Jamba Juice and whatnot.
Now, Fro Yo is back with a vengeance. There are three new places within walking distance of my house.
Buzz Bomb |
12.05.08 - 9:44 pm | #
So Stossel is still allowed on TV after falsifying lab results to make organic food seem unsafe?
An oversight, I'm sure.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint
People died quite regulalrly from eating food before processed food and chemical fertilizers and pesticides came along.
That raw natural stuff'll kill ya!
Rmj, Joe the Theologist |
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12.05.08 - 9:45 pm | #
email me at keefr56@yahoo.com
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12.05.08 - 9:47 pm | #
I am very fond of the Long Ryders' cover of that...
bill buckner
They were great. They occasionally re-form and play shows, but only in Europe. Pisses me off.
Buzz Bomb |
12.05.08 - 9:47 pm | #
So Stossel is still allowed on TV [............]
You could have left it at that.
AndyMN |
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12.05.08 - 9:47 pm | #
This week my Italian teacher told me to really stress the double consonant when I am saying something like "Quanti anni ha?" (how old are you) because otherwise I would be saying "Quanti ani ha?" (how many anuses do you have). I never thought I would need to know how many anuses someone had, but if I were to talk to Larry King about his guests....
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12.05.08 - 9:47 pm | #
So Stossel is still allowed on TV after falsifying lab results to make organic food seem unsafe?
I'll say it before and I will say it again:
That pro wrestler didn't hit him hard enough.
Terry C - 1-20-09 |
12.05.08 - 9:48 pm | #
That raw natural stuff'll kill ya!
Well, if it's meat, sure...
that one, now preznit |
12.05.08 - 9:48 pm | #
Gatti's, Conan's, Brick Oven....
Conan's and Brick Oven don't deliver to this neighborhood and Gatti's in too slow.
fourlegsgood, darksider |
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12.05.08 - 9:48 pm | #
DEEP THOUGHT: Are there enough bridges around for all these foreclosed/unemployed people to live under?
Brother Canusparea | 12.05.08 - 9:48 pm |
Assuming they don't fall down ...
Brooklyn Girl, shady dame |
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12.05.08 - 9:49 pm | #
I predict all three will be gone in a year.
Brooklyn Girl, shady dame
I might keep one place open single-handedly. They have a pumpkin flavored fro yo that is orgasmic.
I think it's an easy, relatively inexpensive business to open and operate. A good starter business. The couple who runs the one I go to are in their late 20s and ridiculously good-looking and happy. Whether it'll last, I couldn't say.
Buzz Bomb |
12.05.08 - 9:49 pm | #
Conan's and Brick Oven don't deliver to this neighborhood and Gatti's in too slow.
fourlegsgood, darksider
but it's available, man! It's all about choices and you have that available! I mean, I would drive there from here for one of those pizzas!
Hunger does strange things to a person.....
Rmj, Joe the Theologist |
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12.05.08 - 9:49 pm | #
HD radio is a neat thing. But, much like its TV counterpart, if you don't have cable, you can't get in those "extra" stations. I was really looking forward to some pitiful 80s pop. Instead, I turned on the Gram Parsons Pandora station.
Chalk up another victory for the liberal media!
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.05.08 - 9:52 pm | #
I'm a longtime Laura Nyro fan, Echidne. Which album?
noblejoanie |
12.05.08 - 9:52 pm | #
Purdy doggie!
That she was. I got stopped outside at least once a week for that.
Echidne |
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12.05.08 - 9:52 pm | #
Jesus Christ, is Stossel still on TV?
MP |
12.05.08 - 9:53 pm | #
Ooh, a Hummer commercial!
Now that gas is temporarily cheap, gotta strike while the iron is hot!
Buzz Bomb |
12.05.08 - 9:53 pm | #
Was just watching Elvis Costello and Elton John waxing rhapsodic about Laura Nyro.
Cookie Fleck '08 |
12.05.08 - 9:53 pm | #
I'm a longtime Laura Nyro fan, Echidne. Which album?
Eli and the Thirteenth Confession.
Echidne |
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12.05.08 - 9:53 pm | #
Every Echidne thread eventually turns into a discussion of Laura Nyro. It's like Godwin's Law, but with Laura Nyro instead of Hitler.
The Kenosha Kid |
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12.05.08 - 9:53 pm | #
Smite him for me while you're at it.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.05.08 - 9:55 pm | #
Saw Elvis Costello's new "Spectacle" talk show last night - he and guest Elton John went on at length about Ms. Nyro and a number of other forgotten songwriters. David Ackles, like that...Good shit, if you get Sundance...
bill buckner |
12.05.08 - 9:55 pm | #
HD radio is a neat thing. But, much like its TV counterpart, if you don't have cable, you can't get in those "extra" stations.
I listen to several HD radio channels. with no radio. on my iphone.
Speaking of dogs, bought the small dog some boots today as the salt is already early into this season bothering his feet. He managed to kick off two of them somewhere on the walk. Sooo with the temps/windchill hovering in the single digits, I had to retrace the path. (Snow expected later tonight so it was now or never.)
It's snowing. I never thought I'd see the day in Minnesota...
AndyMN |
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12.05.08 - 9:57 pm | #
little article in the WSJ today about the troubles at Haughton-Mifflin. Basic issue is that they have 2.3B in sales and the private equity company took them private with 7B in debt at $500B/year in interest. To be profitable, then they have to make over 20% profit on sales every year.
However, everyone involved in making the deal made fees along the way - so it made sense from that point of view.
rootless-e, mysterious |
12.05.08 - 9:57 pm | #
Thanks, Bill, but I could use a real coke right now. Got a horrible choking cough. How does one get rid of that?
Cookie Fleck '08 |
12.05.08 - 9:57 pm | #
David Ackles, like that...Good shit, if you get Sundance...
bill buckner | 12.05.08 - 9:55 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
Ackles is a hard listen, for me. Kinda like a cross between Harry Chapin and Andrew Lloyd Weber.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.05.08 - 9:58 pm | #
Earlier this evening, Comedy Central showed a flick starring a young Tom Hanks in a 1984 movie called "Bachelor Party".
It was nearly the fucking Kelvin absolute zero measure of funny.
MP |
12.05.08 - 9:59 pm | #
Ackles is a hard listen, for me. Kinda like a cross between Harry Chapin and Andrew Lloyd Weber.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint
New Zealand's Hell Pizza has franchise opportunities.
Opening one in the Bible Belt would be a good start on U.S. publicity.
Telegram Sam |
12.05.08 - 10:00 pm | #
I didn't buy the calendar about porn for women, however. The guys all had clothes on.
Echidne |
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12.05.08 - 10:00 pm | #
Speaking of Xmas music, heard something really weird in the local Filipino supermarket... a long "Stars on 45"-type medley of Xmas songs and carols set to a disco beat, and, in between each one, the chorus from "Lady Marmalade."
To my way of thinking, yes. I was expecting some kind of stripped-down Tim Hardin-eaque bleakness from the cover, not a bunch of yammering show tunes.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.05.08 - 10:02 pm | #
It snows in MSP?
I dunno...wintry mix? It's only 20 degrees, or so.
ONE really good album for me (the critically-ballyhooed "American Gothic") - unfamiliar with/indifferent to the rest...
bill buckner |
12.05.08 - 10:02 pm | #
Still loving the Roches Christmas album after all these years.
Cookie Fleck '08 |
12.05.08 - 10:03 pm | #
vacuum of his eyes...
charley |
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12.05.08 - 10:05 pm | #
hello all.
long week.
some good things and a possible trip to SF next week.
peterboy |
12.05.08 - 10:05 pm | #
Speaking of Xmas music, heard something really weird in the local Filipino supermarket...
On the first day of Xmas my true gave to me 1,000 shoes and Imelda in a pear tree.
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
12.05.08 - 10:05 pm | #
Phila, great video. It led me to the one below, which led me to Julie London doing Round Midnight. So now I'm gonna head to the basement and make the guys sightread it. Love that song.
ErinPDX |
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12.05.08 - 10:05 pm | #
sometimes it is just necessary and correct to play pin the tail on the other engineer
dave....is the pizza any good?
peterboy |
12.05.08 - 10:06 pm | #
I had a very good deep-dish pizza in Chicago once. That's all.
Echidne |
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12.05.08 - 10:07 pm | #
I've got an iPod touch. Is there a way to do it through that?
If you're around wifi, yeah. There are a bunch of web stream clients for iphone/itouch. My favorites are WunderRadio and Tuner, but there are several free ones as well.
You have to do a little research to find the stream URLs, but many of the public radio stations with HD channels have them up on their websites.
May not be the same fidelity (I'm not likely to find out while I'm living in north Alabama), but it's the same content.
A lot of streams will fit on an EDGE channel, so I can listen to them in the car by plugging the phone into the stereo. About the only thing I can think of to want for xmas is a 3G iphone, which can do even higher-rate streams.
I really don't need one, though.
theodoric of athens |
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12.05.08 - 10:07 pm | #
Geez, Trademark Dave,
In Muskegon out pizza places are offering the same 18" pizza for about 18 bucks and the next pizza is half off.
ONE really good album for me (the critically-ballyhooed "American Gothic") - unfamiliar with/indifferent to the rest...
bill buckner | 12.05.08 - 10:02 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
That's the only one I know.
Eh, maybe I should give it another chance. Heard it while working in a record store in the early eighties, when I was a bit more...dogmatic, I guess you might say.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.05.08 - 10:08 pm | #
** - My high school yearbook quote.
that one, now preznit |
12.05.08 - 10:09 pm | #
Alan Shepard's first flight was like 15 minutes and 700 miles, and he peed his pants.
Franklin Furter III, H.D. |
12.05.08 - 10:10 pm | #
damn ex-nazis wouldnt let him pee.
peterboy |
12.05.08 - 10:10 pm | #
"The issue here isn't pussy. The issue here is monkey."
NTodd, Wintery |
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12.05.08 - 10:10 pm | #
Alan Shepard's first flight was like 15 minutes and 700 miles, and he peed his pants.
Franklin Furter III, H.D. | 12.05.08 - 10:10 pm |
Well, he really didn't have any choice ...
Brooklyn Girl, shady dame |
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12.05.08 - 10:10 pm | #
Alan Shepard's first flight was like 15 minutes and 700 miles, and he peed his pants.
Spam in a can.
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
12.05.08 - 10:11 pm | #
Alan Shepard's first flight was like 15 minutes and 700 miles, and he peed his pants.
Franklin Furter III, H.D.
And left the filter on his capsule periscope, so he only saw the Florida coastline in black and white.
MP |
12.05.08 - 10:11 pm | #
when I was a bit more...dogmatic, I guess you might say.
Long-term record store people are NEVER dogmatic! Not even a little bit!
(Actually, we were mostly dogmatic with each other - "(Insert favorite band here) SUCKS," and it's off to the races.. Made for an entertaining work day...)
bill buckner |
12.05.08 - 10:11 pm | #
Alan Shepard's first flight was like 15 minutes and 700 miles
Splashdown only about 350 miles from the Cape, IIRC. And 4 minutes of microgravity...
The Federalist Traitor reasoning on this is just so revealing.
5-4 overturn a 1911 decision to improve position of monopolists In dissent, Breyer said the court should have left it to Congress to make any changes to the law.
The arguments against the automatic ban were "well known in the antitrust literature for close to half a century," Breyer wrote for the four dissenting judges. "Congress has repeatedly found in these arguments insufficient grounds for overturning the per se rule."
The majority said that price-floor agreements should be evaluated under the "rule of reason," a legal doctrine that assesses restraints on trade by looking at the impact on competition.
and played golf on the moon. The Mercury rocket was quite small. It's on display at the NASA Visitor Center at the Cape. The Visitor Center should be a required visit for every citizen. The 3D cinemax films will bring you to tears, reminding you of what this nation used to be.
Franklin Furter III, H.D. |
12.05.08 - 10:16 pm | #
tacitus voltage: any heard this band 'nomo'?
Used to; not no mo'.
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12.05.08 - 10:16 pm | #
Shepard walked on teh Moon, though.
Also was in command of the first docking in space...
father in law was an aviator who squadronned with schirra and
was dropped from the astronaut competition when they found a tiny heart anamoly.
peterboy |
12.05.08 - 10:17 pm | #
Crap. Now I'm starving ...
Want some pizza? I have 2 now and now I'm not hungry.
fourlegsgood, darksider |
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12.05.08 - 10:18 pm | #
I love the series "From the Earth to the Moon" great great TV. Hanks was an executive producer. Some episodes were not as good as others, but still an amazing series. I used to show a section of the series to tech executives to prove that ROCKS could be exciting. They did a bit about geology and why it was important and make it fascinating for both the astronauts and the audience. Then I tell them. "If this guy can make ROCKS exciting, the least you can do is figure out how to make your product exciting."
spoc kobama |
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12.05.08 - 10:24 pm | #
I wonder if that golf ball he hit is still flying around the moon.
Franklin Furter III, H.D. |
12.05.08 - 10:24 pm | #
I saw a handle on Kos last night ("Thunderroad") which reminded me of this.
The mainstream media coverage of Tim Russert's death was a huge effort of deception-- media attention and public remorse that was second only to the death of someone like the Pope or Lady Di. The cherry on top was Bruce Springsteen, a man who enjoys a great reputation among liberals, singing a song for the deceased man-- basically a fat asshole who routinely put the most honest and best people in cheap "traps," making them look (in a totally unmerited way) like they had to struggle when confronted with a "neutral" questioner, and thereby making them look bad in front of the whole nation. This usually had a conservative slant, and Tim Russert, whose job was supposed to be about knowing about domestic politics, often apparently had huge gaps in his knowledge of the facts-- or more likely, purposely kept mum about things that would moderate his more critical claims and tacks-- again, often with a conservative slant.
So how did it happen? Why did Bruce sing for him? Given that the extent of the media coverage was obviously insincere and engineered, it's not too hard to make some limited conclusions.
Maybe a person with a very impressive official credential showed up and asked Bruce to do it, claiming that it would play some role in fighting terrorists, without offering much of an explanation of how that could be (if pressed, perhaps they would have told him that the answer was classified). Bruce, who is neither especially sharp, or probably willing to pick a lot of fights with the powerful (since he only has plenty to lose) just went along with it. Who is he, he may have thought, to differ with a person who holds himself out as a national security official in matters affecting national security? If he did something that could help but didn't, and his fans and friends found out, what would they think? Perhaps he even acquiesced to a back-story of him and Russert being friends, which wasn't true.
Or, maybe Russert's widow called him up (again, at the behest of people who were arranging the sham mainstream media attention). A teary call and a claim that Russert really liked him and his music may have been enough to get Springsteen to feel sorry for them, especially if he wasn't too familiar with what Russert's lousy, biased efforts as a "journalist" were really like.
It may all seem like a lot to go through to fake this stuff. And the reasons for doing it may seem unclear. But if you think about it a little, you may realize that there could be certain reasons why some people would want to make Tim Russert look loved-- to give him the impressions of not having been that biased.
Did you know that the digital watch on my wrist has more computing power than the LEM? And that I still can figure out how to set the Daylight Savings time?
spoc kobama |
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12.05.08 - 10:25 pm | #
And Spiro Agnew was a tool.
Terry C - 1-20-09 |
12.05.08 - 10:27 pm | #
(continued)
And, what people on the other (conservative) side of the political spetrum do does not always have to be that smart, or make much sense. In other words, they can think it's a great idea, even though it's not. Remember when you were in elementary school, and some dumb asshole kid (whose parents were probably conservatives, too) would try to do something to get your goat-- and often, it was something that you didn't quite understand how/why it was supposed to bother you-- it didn't quite make sense? That's because the kid was kind of stupid, and/or was under a very mistaken impression of what you were like and what makes you tick. Stupid assholes who resent educating themselves and who believe in stupid things, even when they are adults, may all to easily do and say things that really miss the mark of even their own aims.
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12.05.08 - 10:27 pm | #
Cool...Minnesota Mining & Manufacturing (3M) is cutting 1800 jobs.
Tell me why I still have a job in consumer lending.
AndyMN |
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12.05.08 - 10:27 pm | #
I'm boinging off to bed, folx. 4 hrs. sleep was not enough, and it is colder than the posterior of a groundwater acquisition specialist. So, g'nite!
♥
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12.05.08 - 10:28 pm | #
Did you know that the digital watch on my wrist has more computing power than the LEM?
That's awesome how I point out the obvious when the media actually conspires to cover it up like they were a bunch of Nazis.
I remember when that asshole Russert died, even over here for a couple of days, all the commenters were respectful and sympathetic of that scumbag. It would puzzle a lot of people, but not me. That's because I understand that a lot of the commenters over here are jsut as full of shit as Wolf Blitzer, David Gregory and Chris Matthews.
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12.05.08 - 10:30 pm | #
Tell me why I still have a job in consumer lending.
Also was in command of the first docking in space...
NTodd, Wintery
Wasn't that Armstrong and Scott, with the Gemini/Aegena project, where the Gemini capsule started spinning out of control?
MP |
12.05.08 - 10:31 pm | #
I remember when that asshole Russert died, even over here for a couple
of days, all the commenters were respectful and sympathetic of that
scumbag.
I remember when that asshole Russert died, even over here for a couple of days, all the commenters were respectful and sympathetic of that scumbag.
Swan,
That is total and unadulterated BULLSHIT!
If you read anything that I and others wrote: there would be no doubt of the contempt he was held in at this venue.
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12.05.08 - 10:32 pm | #
Wasn't that Armstrong and Scott, with the Gemini/Aegena project, where the Gemini capsule started spinning out of control?
Yes, that's whom I was referring to. I misread the original comment (I thought somebody was remarking on his being first on the moon).
Armstrong practically saved the space program after the retro probs.
I remember when that asshole Russert died, even over here for a couple of days, all the commenters were respectful and sympathetic of that scumbag.
Your memory is about as good as your prose and your thinking.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.05.08 - 10:33 pm | #
spoc kobama | Homepage | 12.05.08 - 10:24 pm | #
--
Moon rocks have been invaluable at fixing the formation of the solar system and Earth at approx. 4.5 billion years ago. There are no rocks left on Earth which can be dated to that period. The oldest on Earth (excepting meteorites) are 3.8 billion from Greenland.
Moon rocks are mostly anorthosite, a calcium rich feldspar.
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12.05.08 - 10:33 pm | #
Moon rocks have been invaluable at fixing the formation of the solar system and Earth at approx. 4.5 billion years ago.
Well, you guys who say it was critical of Russert over here either are lying or weren't reading then. Here and at Daily Kos, it was an outpouring of sympathy no one had ever had a good thing to say about before.
Once things turned around, it looked to me that the people who tried to make Russert looked loved realized they bit off more than they could chew-- that people weren't falling for it, and that the media was making itself look fake more than ever before. That's what you guys are doing now-- just sticking to the new plan.
Anyone who wants to read what was read can plumb around in the archives. There were zillions of sympathetic comments written (I was actually criticized on Kos by several commenters for criticizing Russert the day his death was announced) and even sympathetic articles posted on Kos. Russert was God-damned racist propagandist and the efforts to make him look like a neutral arbtier were shameless lies.
Swan |
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12.05.08 - 10:38 pm | #
Because you are what's wrong with this country?
Fuck...you had to point it out?
That's awesome how I point out the obvious when the media actually conspires to cover it up like they were a bunch of Nazis.
Hype yourself a little more. I only know you from your scroll-trolling. That'll get you on Bill Moyers' show toot-sweet!
AndyMN |
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12.05.08 - 10:38 pm | #
Your memory is about as good as your prose and your thinking.
earlier someone was here complaining because they had to write an article and they were annoyed because the writing wasn't flowing out of them and they were going to have to work at it and probably edit many times and oh noes!!! have to add in the poetry because it wasn't happening in the first draft.
I said, "good luck with that"
fourlegsgood, darksider |
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12.05.08 - 10:39 pm | #
Well, you guys who say it was critical of Russert over here either are lying or weren't reading then.
Again, we welcome the proof. Or you can just accuse us all of being Republicans as you usually do and we can move on...
damn. i just saw that at the nyt.
nona | 06.13.08 - 3:39 pm | #
Swan |
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12.05.08 - 10:40 pm | #
I got fucking enough of Tim Russert in the five solid days of TV coverage after he died. I goddamn well don't want to hear any more about it now.
Now fuck off.
theodoric of athens |
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12.05.08 - 10:40 pm | #
The earth had hundreds of thousands of moons, when it was young.
raft |
12.05.08 - 10:41 pm | #
I don't really give a fuck about what people said about Russert the day he dropped dead.
Kind of crazy to think maybe people didn't want to speak ill of the dead on the day he died at work.
fourlegsgood, darksider |
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12.05.08 - 10:41 pm | #
Shepard proved to be an excellent Apollo mission commander.
MP |
12.05.08 - 10:41 pm | #
Wow, Swan...have you run out of comments sections to troll...again?
Why don't you write an email to Tena again and ask her to join First Draft. Worked out well the last time, eh?
AndyMN |
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12.05.08 - 10:41 pm | #
evening bats
I think I ate a few too many jalapenos at the mexican restaurant tonight. eek
::matthew |
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12.05.08 - 10:41 pm | #
Yeah, like this one?
"He Died of a Big Heart" - that's the headline on Drudge right now. Gag. Personally, I thought Russert exemplified everything that is wrong with our nation's corrupted press corp. Plus, I'm pretty sure he was in the tank for the GOP. Also, for all the posters going on about how horrible this must be for his young children, his one child is actually an adult now. Still, he's dead and I'm not, so condolences to his family.
Pocket Rocket
DWD-S☮S |
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12.05.08 - 10:41 pm | #
Little known is that Aldrin and Armstrong took a massive crash course in field geology and mineralogy and did innumerable practice walks in the western desert to perfect their field geology skills to collect rock samples on the first Apollo flight. NASA considered the rock samples the most important part of the entire mission after getting there and back alive.
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12.05.08 - 10:41 pm | #
I got fucking enough of Tim Russert in the five solid days of TV coverage after he died. I goddamn well don't want to hear any more about it now.
and that goes for his kid 2
fourlegsgood, darksider |
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12.05.08 - 10:42 pm | #
Well, you guys who say it was critical of Russert over here either are lying or weren't reading then.
From the day in question:
I can't see gloating over the death of anyone, but making a hero out of a villain is a bit much.
mike in PR | Homepage | 06.13.08 - 7:00 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
Next, two thoughtful comments from Swan, addressed to the ether, or to posterity, as per usual. Then this:
Ah, so now the late Tim Russert is the epitome of journalistic integrity.
Uh-huh.
Call me a cold-hearted bastard or a total asshole or whatever, but I do not feel any reason to wipe away salted tears after hearing this news.
It's almost as though Swan has no fucking clue what he's talking about, and is an asshole on top of it.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.05.08 - 10:42 pm | #
so sad. ho will moderate the upcoming debates with similar erudition, class and fairness?
euphronius | 06.13.08 - 3:42 pm | #
Swan |
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12.05.08 - 10:43 pm | #
Goodness. Condolences to his friends and family.
Meander | Homepage | 06.13.08 - 3:43 pm | #
how sad
noshrub | 06.13.08 - 3:43 pm |
Stunned silence.
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Condolences to his family, friends and co-workers.
clio | 06.13.08 - 3:43 pm |
58 aint old. Aint supposed to be. Fuckin A....
Doofus | 06.13.08 - 3:43 pm |
My heart goes out to Big Russ - seriously.
stuckinlodi | 06.13.08 - 3:44 pm |
Swan |
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12.05.08 - 10:44 pm | #
wow. condolences.
wonder who the next pro-corporate, pro-gop sunday morning gotcha talking head will be?
jdw | Homepage | 06.13.08 - 3:45 pm |
Swan |
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12.05.08 - 10:44 pm | #
clio | 06.13.08 - 3:43 pm |
Doofus | 06.13.08 - 3:43 pm |
stuckinlod
Tell me again, WHO are these posters. For the life of me I cannot remember even one that would be considered a "Regular."
DWD-S☮S |
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12.05.08 - 10:45 pm | #
Gus Grissom. They found the thing not long ago, sitting upright on the ocean floor.
MP
I think I might have seen an exhibit with the recovered capsule...where would that have been?
::matthew |
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12.05.08 - 10:45 pm | #
didn't shepard sink his capsule?
no, that was Grissom.
or maybe he didn't. ntodd will be right along with the details.
theodoric of athens |
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12.05.08 - 10:45 pm | #
It's a little known fact that even assholes usually have family and friends who are grief stricken when they drop dead.
Swan is the exception.
fourlegsgood, darksider |
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12.05.08 - 10:45 pm | #
It's almost as though Swan has no fucking clue what he's talking about, and is an asshole on top of it.
Now wait a second...he's a respec....he's a bri....he's a....
Copy and paste artist. The most respected type of blogger there is! Kudos again, Swan.
AndyMN |
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12.05.08 - 10:46 pm | #
In fact, the very term wanker should probably be applied to anyone that spends more than a little time hanging out on chatboards. You.
dst |
12.05.08 - 10:46 pm | #
These are all from the link to the thread DWD posted to refute me.
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Weird. I didn't agree with much of how he did his job, but I'm still saddened to hear of his death at such a young age.
Makes me wonder how the wingnuts manage to have so much hate for their ideological opponents. Death should always make you sad, even if it's sadness at a what you perceive to be a wasted life.
SteveNS | 06.13.08 - 3:46 pm |
Damn that second-hand smoke!
[ducks and covers]
RIP and condolences to all families who lost loved ones today.
or maybe he didn't. ntodd will be right along with the details.
theodoric of athens
According to my memory (a weaker source as time goes by) NASA believed that he panicked in the high seas and did not get the hatch shut before the waves filled it.
At least that is how I remember it. He was never quite given the hero status of the others.
DWD-S☮S |
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12.05.08 - 10:47 pm | #
It's almost as though Swan has no fucking clue what he's talking about, and is an asshole on top of it.
According to my memory (a weaker source as time goes by) NASA believed that he panicked in the high seas and did not get the hatch shut before the waves filled it.
At least that is how I remember it. He was never quite given the hero status of the others.
DWD-S☮S |
Actually I think they accused him of blowing the hatch open because he was panicking.
Poor guy was one of the three who died in the fire a few years later.
Brooklyn Girl, shady dame |
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12.05.08 - 10:49 pm | #
Grissom had a sense of humor.
He commanded the first Gemini mission, and after splashdown, he would open hatches until onboard the retrieval ship.
He named his capsule the "Unsinkable Molly Brown".
MP |
12.05.08 - 10:50 pm | #
I don't think that I agree with that statement.
rorschach
I know I don't.
::matthew |
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12.05.08 - 10:50 pm | #
I don't think that I agree with that statement.
Me either, but then again, I am a DARKSIDER.
fourlegsgood, darksider |
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12.05.08 - 10:50 pm | #
Death sucks for those in their prime.
For others, the worms, they eat you.
TinyPorcelainMouse |
12.05.08 - 10:50 pm | #
Tim Russert was just as against us as Rush Limbaugh or Bill O'Reilly, he was jsut a little bit more subtle about it.
There was a lot of stuff whining about his death over here.
I don't even remember the few comments critical of Russert on DWD's link, so maybe there was no criticism on later threads that I read. No matter whether it was the second or third post in which people were discussing it after Russert's death, it is not kosher that so many supposedly liberal people who read these blogs would care so much about this or would leave it unrefuted if a bunch of people showed up waxing this guy's pole.
Swan |
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12.05.08 - 10:50 pm | #
When chimpy dies I plan on doing the snoopy dance.
fourlegsgood, darksider |
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12.05.08 - 10:51 pm | #
OK, saw the Liberty Bell 7 exhibit at the kennedy space center.
::matthew |
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12.05.08 - 10:51 pm | #
Tell me again, WHO are these posters. For the life of me I cannot remember even one that would be considered a "Regular."
DWD-S☮S | Homepage | 12.05.08 - 10:45 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
Lot of sock puppets on there, that's for sure.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.05.08 - 10:51 pm | #
oe Satriani may be swimming in cash if he wins a lawsuit against British rockers Coldplay, claiming that their song, "Viva la Vida" rips off borrows significantly from his tune, "If I Could Fly," Pitchfork reports. This news comes just a day after the bland Brits were nominated for seven Grammy Awards, including Record of the Year and Song of the Year. (How are those things different? Got me.)
Because 100% of the commenters here immediately upon hearing the news of Russert's death didn't say "FUCK HIM AND HIS NAZI FAMILY" clearly we all loved him.
NTodd, Wintery |
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12.05.08 - 10:52 pm | #
man.
bummer.
i feel bad for big russ. no one wants to bury a son.
wtfwjd? | 06.13.08 - 3:48 pm |
I blame Bill Moyers.
And sniffing too many dry erase marker fumes.
[uncorks bottle of Bogle Vineyards special reserve pinot noir]
Condolences!
Stunt Woman | 06.13.08 - 3:49 pm |
Yeah, I am sure. It is a big loss.
pigboy | 06.13.08 - 3:49 pm |
Swan |
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12.05.08 - 10:52 pm | #
me too
fourlegsgood, darksider |
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12.05.08 - 10:53 pm | #
coldplay sucks ass.
Yes it does...it's the Swan of music.
AndyMN |
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12.05.08 - 10:53 pm | #
Of course. I'm very sorry for their loss.
He was pretty young and this must be a complete shock.
V for Virginia, discouraged | Homepage | 06.13.08 - 3:50 pm |
Swan |
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12.05.08 - 10:53 pm | #
He was never quite given the hero status of the others.
As Tom Wolfe put it, Grissom "screwed the pooch".
As far as hero status, there's a high school named for him here, and I grew up about 40 miles from an Air Force base named for the man. Some of that reverence, though, probably attaches to the man having been roasted alive on a launchpad.
I'm not old enough to remember whether he deserved whatever blame he got, or indeed to know how much that was.
theodoric of athens |
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12.05.08 - 10:53 pm | #
feh.
i lasted a minute and a half.
stoat is now listed
Echidne |
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12.05.08 - 10:54 pm | #
The death throes of Grissom, White and Chaffee, are horrendous.
They are actually caught on tape saying "We're burning up in here".
That catastrophic capsule fuckup made the Apollo mission start over from scratch.
MP |
12.05.08 - 10:54 pm | #
For people calling me a cherry picker-- that is an awful lot of cherries!!!
And yes, it does include several regular commenters (for instance, V for Virginia).
And no, I did no write "fuck his nazi family" anywhere-- typical example of an Eschaton commenter twisting the truth to try to discredit me.
Swan |
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12.05.08 - 10:54 pm | #
i disapproved of his professional conduct heartily, but have genuine respect and sympathy for the loss this is to many people, especially of course his family and friends.
trypticon | 06.13.08 - 3:50 pm
Swan |
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12.05.08 - 10:55 pm | #
Swan,
STFU
it's not that we don't want to hear it, it's just that you're kind of nuts.
funny how you can actually pick that up with these digital scrawls on the cave wall.
hi phila, fourlegs, other sane sentient beings.
charley |
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12.05.08 - 10:55 pm | #
The death throes of Grissom, White and Chaffee, are horrendous.
That was the most awful thing ever.
fourlegsgood, darksider |
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12.05.08 - 10:55 pm | #
Oh yeah,
Not to change the subject but I was discussing singers with low voices the other day and someone cited Burl Ives as being a baritone.
Listen to the first part of this song, if you will, and then tell me again he is a baritone.
(Nice old song anyway. Been around for a hundred years or so. Maybe Simels even co-wrote it, or reviewed it.)
DWD-S☮S |
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12.05.08 - 10:55 pm | #
tiptoeing on the edge
Echidne |
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12.05.08 - 10:55 pm | #
Swan is both very weird and sometimes an asshole, but I don't think he's done anything as horrific as "Yellow".
BlueinColorado |
12.05.08 - 10:55 pm | #
another voice promoting honesty and logic gone silent
Well, some of us, anyway.
rorschach, superfluous |
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12.05.08 - 10:57 pm | #
Echinde, What's the translation of the title to the carol?
bo |
12.05.08 - 10:57 pm | #
Whale fuck, things are pretty Swan-centered right now, guess I'll mourn Forrest Ackerman by my lonesome...
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MisterX |
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12.05.08 - 10:57 pm | #
that one isn't in the rotation on the sirius/xm 'holly' station.
The reason: The words begin: I do not seek power or glory. Neither do I yearn for gold. I seek the light of heaven and peace on earth.
Echidne |
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12.05.08 - 10:58 pm | #
here's what I said:
I find his death far less remarkable than the thousands who have died fighting in a war that was made possible by enablers like him
::matthew, Mc=W³ | 06.13.08 - 4:03 pm | #
I think that still holds...
::matthew |
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12.05.08 - 10:58 pm | #
When Eric Idle hosted SNL, when the world was younger and Belushi was alive, they did a weird skit about Idle as Prince Charles, with no makeup or costume, as was their style at the time, trying to pick up women by inviting them back to the palace to listen to Burl Ives records. Didn't get it when I was ten, don't get it now.
BlueinColorado |
12.05.08 - 10:58 pm | #
To the very few regular Eschaton commenters who ARE sincere liberals but who fell for / went along with this shit when it was going on, all I can say is, you are the type of people who someone could really walk up to and say almost anything, and you would believe it (or at least believe that they were trying to be sincere). You just aren't aware of how many people are out there who lie, and you should really wise up.
Swan |
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12.05.08 - 10:58 pm | #
With a cheerful pop and a fizz, it's question of who you is.
Le Jackel |
12.05.08 - 10:59 pm | #
Echinde, What's the translation of the title to the carol?
I seek neither power nor glory.
Echidne |
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12.05.08 - 10:59 pm | #
The reason: The words begin: I do not seek power or glory. Neither do I
yearn for gold. I seek the light of heaven and peace on earth.
Anyway, as anyone who's been here for any length of time knows, some people gloat when "enemies" die, and some people don't.
I'm in the latter camp, personally. But given how many better people than Russert died on that day, thanks to policies he defended, I certainly can't blame people for venting.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.05.08 - 10:59 pm | #
Right out of the shoot. Dang.
Le Jackel |
12.05.08 - 10:59 pm | #
Swan
Your father really did accept you
Your mother really wanted to breast feed you.
All the girls liked you in high school
You have a big penis
Being needy is hot
That should cover it.
If you're a woman:
Your ass looks fine in that.
Now go away.
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars |
12.05.08 - 11:00 pm | #
BlueinColorado,
Me either. I have two songs by him in my collection. The one I posted, WAYFARING STRANGER and A LITTLE BITTY TEAR (Let me Down)
Wayfaring Stranger because, when I played the trumpet, I used to love the melody.
And the other cause it is FUCKING EARWORM and my answer to earworms is to listen to them a few times to tamp them down in my memory.
DWD-S☮S |
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12.05.08 - 11:00 pm | #
Anyway, as anyone who's been here for any length of time knows, some people gloat when "enemies" die, and some people don't.
I'm in the latter camp, personally. But given how many better people than Russert died on that day, thanks to policies he defended, I certainly can't blame people for venting.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint | Homepage | 12.05.08 - 10:59 pm | #
You've just always been a class act, is all.
rorschach, superfluous |
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12.05.08 - 11:01 pm | #
hi phila, fourlegs, other sane sentient beings.
charley | Homepage | 12.05.08 - 10:55 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
Hi charley. How goes it?
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.05.08 - 11:01 pm | #
If you're a woman:
Your ass looks fine in that.
Now go away.
Do people really care about how their asses look?
Echidne |
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12.05.08 - 11:01 pm | #
I remember Neil Armstrong saying "Houston, Tranquility Base here, the Eagle had landed."
Good Lord, if we can do that, we can do anything.
MP |
12.05.08 - 11:01 pm | #
You just aren't aware of how many people are out there who lie, and you should really wise up.
the cherry on top of the sundae.
bo |
12.05.08 - 11:02 pm | #
A little bitty tear let me down,
spoiled my act as a clown
I had it made up not make a frown,
but a little bitty tear let me down.
You said you were leaving tomorrow
That today was our last day
I said there'd be no sorrow,
that I'd laugh when you walked away.
A little bitty tear let me down, spoiled my act as a clown
I had it made up not make a frown, but a little bitty tear let me down.
DWD-S☮S |
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12.05.08 - 11:03 pm | #
I seek the light of heaven and peace on earth.
May you find it. May we all. Good night.
sidhra صيذ |
12.05.08 - 11:03 pm | #
Okay, well who seeks power and glory, besides yer self?
Le Jackel |
12.05.08 - 11:03 pm | #
it's quite sad he died.
. . .
plum p,better democrats please | 06.13.08 - 3:52 pm |
As big a role as he had in enabling the evil bastids in Washington, it's really a sad thing. My best wishes to his friends and family.
Mark B. from Austin TX | 06.13.08 - 3:53 pm |
This is good news for Republicans.
Stunt Woman | 06.13.08 - 3:53 pm |
Swan |
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12.05.08 - 11:03 pm | #
Thank goodness we've got you, a serial scroll troll at so many blogs, to set people straight. I wouldn't know what to do without you, dear Swan.
You fucking jackass.
--
Yep, the ones who swoop in from 10,000 ft usually are the most pretentious poseurs. Dog save us from your followers...
ZenMouser |
12.05.08 - 11:03 pm | #
Phila
Thanks for the posting picture links. I often look at them and enjoy them. For some reason i like looking at old pictures, or stark ones, like the 'sleeping by the mississippi' photos.
Caddo |
12.05.08 - 11:03 pm | #
Shocking shit. It seems like he's been around "forever," but goddam.
edub | 06.13.08 - 3:53 pm |
It's always a shame to see someone go before their time. Condolences to his family and loved ones.
May he be remembered, fondly, personally, yet fairly, professionally.
Verchiel | Homepage | 06.13.08 - 3:53 pm |
That's really a shock.
I've never heard about any health problems at all.
I liked the big Irish lug.
cot, Unruly American | Homepage | 06.13.08 - 3:54 pm |
Swan |
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12.05.08 - 11:05 pm | #
Do people really care about how their asses look?
Speaking as someone who's unshaven, and hasn't showered, and has been lying in in bed all day long, in a t-shirt that's more holes than cloth, I have to say...yes, absolutely. In fact, I was admiring it in a hand mirror earlier this afternoon.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.05.08 - 11:06 pm | #
I'm in the latter camp, personally. But given how many better people than Russert died on that day, thanks to policies he defended, I certainly can't blame people for venting.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint
thank you, i think what i said that day was it could have happened to a lot better (worse) people, and i had names in mind.
it's always better when jimi does it.
charley |
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12.05.08 - 11:06 pm | #
Do people really care about how their asses look?
Probably not nearly as much as they enjoy how much other peoples' asses look.
MP |
12.05.08 - 11:06 pm | #
what not to wear tonight: woman from philly, wearing atrios' sweatpants.
jdw |
12.05.08 - 11:06 pm | #
I just heard Band of Horses for the first time. Neat music.
AndyMN |
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12.05.08 - 11:07 pm | #
Russert was one of the best there ever was and beloved by all America. Rest in peace Tim.
wick | 06.13.08 - 3:54 pm |
where he was celebrating his son's graduation from Boston College
damn that kind of sucks.
euphronius | 06.13.08 - 3:55 pm |
I need a drink.
HoneyBearKelly, GrendelKhan | 06.13.08 - 3:56 pm |
Swan |
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12.05.08 - 11:07 pm | #
Thanks for the posting picture links. I often look at them and enjoy them. For some reason i like looking at old pictures, or stark ones, like the 'sleeping by the mississippi' photos.
Caddo | 12.05.08 - 11:03 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
Speaking as someone who's unshaven, and hasn't showered, and has been lying in in bed all day long, in a t-shirt that's more holes than cloth, I have to say...yes, absolutely. In fact, I was admiring it in a hand mirror earlier this afternoon.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint | Homepage | 12.05.08 - 11:06 pm | #
And the angle of the mirror was perfect for my binoculars to take in every last detail.
rorschach, superfluous |
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12.05.08 - 11:07 pm | #
Seemed like a pleasant guy - which is a mixed asset, he may have been a little too close to his subjects.
I expect he enjoyed the years he had. We should all be so lucky.
RIP Timmeh and condolences to family and friends
Damned at Random | 06.13.08 - 3:56 pm |
Swan |
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12.05.08 - 11:07 pm | #
I care more about how my ass feels than how it looks. If it feels tight, then I'm all right.
Vicki, Cookie Cutter |
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12.05.08 - 11:09 pm | #
Note to self: no more eye spinny thingy.
Le Jackel |
12.05.08 - 11:10 pm | #
Phila
Thanks for the posting picture links. I often look at them and enjoy them. For some reason i like looking at old pictures, or stark ones, like the 'sleeping by the mississippi' photos.
Caddo
phila is the most intelligent photo critic on these boards.
charley |
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12.05.08 - 11:10 pm | #
When Swan dies, no one will say anything, good or bad.
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MisterX |
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12.05.08 - 11:10 pm | #
Russert was one of the best there ever was and beloved by all America. Rest in peace Tim.
wick | 06.13.08 - 3:54 pm |
Yes, quoting "jack" variants is always a good idea!
To anyone who wasn't hiher up on the thread, I was pointing out that the mainstream media coverage (and blog comments) about Tim Russert's death were a bunch of propaganda, and some idiot claimed that the comments on this website weren't favorable to Russert, so I'm refuting him by reposting them.
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Sympathies to his family...damn, what a shock.
ZuZu's Petals | 06.13.08 - 3:58 pm |
Swan |
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12.05.08 - 11:10 pm | #
Anyone here ever have gall bladder issues? I'm worried I've got that bit going on.
AndyMN |
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12.05.08 - 11:10 pm | #
i don't care how *my* ass looks.
That's what I mean. We can see other people's backsides more easily.
Echidne |
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12.05.08 - 11:10 pm | #
Well, Swan has demonstrated to my satisfaction that "all the commenters" here eulogized Russert...and all it took was quoting a few well-wishers, plus anyone who simply expressed shock or surprise, and totally ignoring everyone else.
Tune in next week, when he proves that all the water in his house is hot by turning only one tap.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.05.08 - 11:11 pm | #
Hmmm. A girl after my own heart itself.
Le Jackel |
12.05.08 - 11:11 pm | #
I'm disgustingly healthy, based on the most recent checkup. Knock wood, of course.
Echidne |
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12.05.08 - 11:12 pm | #
Tune in next week, when he proves that all the water in his house is hot by turning only one tap.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint | Homepage | 12.05.08 - 11:11 pm | #
--
today i proved that water only appears when I conduct a counter-clockwise motion with my wrist.
Mabel's Wig Shack |
12.05.08 - 11:12 pm | #
I think that's enough to prove I'm right. It certainly was unnatural how much Atriots felt bad about this guy dying. This guy helped put us in Iraq. I only went down to 4:00 on a thread that went on til 6:36, and probably had a zillion comments in total.
Swan |
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12.05.08 - 11:12 pm | #
Anyone here ever have gall bladder issues? I'm worried I've got that bit going on.
AndyMN
I know several who have had theirs removed, only to find that it didn't make their symptoms improve.
::matthew |
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12.05.08 - 11:12 pm | #
I just heard Band of Horses for the first time. Neat music.
check out tyler ramsey's "long dream about swimming across the sea" (he's in band of horses)
the first time i heard it on xm i thought is was neil young and i thought: "damn... i'm gonna have to take back all the bad things i say about neil young."
but it wasn't so i didn't.
it's an absolutely great song... rest of the cd is mixed.
It's certainly enough to prove you're a fucking asshole. Do you play "Elias" in your spare time?
theodoric of athens |
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12.05.08 - 11:14 pm | #
President Obama is going to have to deal with two US foreign wars, bestowed upon him the moment he undertakes the oath of office.
MP |
12.05.08 - 11:14 pm | #
Heck, there are relatively few answers to so many questions.
Le Jackel | 12.05.08 - 11:13 pm | #
Anyone here ever have gall bladder issues? I'm worried I've got that bit going on.
Yes, and it's gone. I didn't need it.
I don't care about my ass or the back of my hair and I really don't care about Swan's issues. I did the best I could. I'm out, you can all enjoy.
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars |
12.05.08 - 11:14 pm | #
Comment by Swan blocked.
Because nobody's fucking interested and nobody fucking cares.
Swan, you are one of the biggest jackasses I've ever read in Leftblogistan. I'm assuming that you only want hits on your shitty blog, so you choose to bug people for a pass time.
Good luck, pal. Sorry that Steve Brenen doesn't have the Carpetbagger blog, where you made yourself "famous".
AndyMN |
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12.05.08 - 11:16 pm | #
Boy, is that ever a bassackwards way to go about it.
Le Jackel |
12.05.08 - 11:16 pm | #
swan is being earnest about making a certain point.
nothing particularly wrong with that.
although 'earnestness' does open the door to other issues.
Tonight and every night for the rest of my goddamn life, as far as I can tell...
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.05.08 - 11:17 pm | #
I have the feeling that even a Friday evening could be spent more profitably than dwelling on the untimely and sudden (and receding in time) death of a hack teebee personality who masqueraded as a journalist....
montag |
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12.05.08 - 11:17 pm | #
I'm not sick... Or at least not more than usual...
They found the thing not long ago, sitting upright on the ocean floor.
Just wondering if it's back in Hutchinson yet. Anyone know? What I recall from the analysis that the Cosmosphere did when they took the capsule apart, it was still not a proven thing whether he popped the hatch early or it popped on its own.
And if you don't know the Cosmosphere in Hutch, you owe it to yourself to drive out to damn near the center of Kansas to see the place. And then spend the rest of your life trying to figure out why such an incredible space resource is there.
And the Cosmosphere pays a lot of its way by building hardware for movies like Apollo 13...
Oh, and one last thing. I was on the highway on the east side of Wichita when I noticed a big rig pulling up next to me. On the flatbed trailer was this big canister. It was the capsule, being hauled to Hutch in its tank of sea water. Pretty cool...
atablarasa |
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12.05.08 - 11:17 pm | #
Swan's marketing: YOU ARE ALL WORTHLESS AND WEAK, now...please click on my links.
NTodd, Wintery | Homepage | 12.05.08 - 11:16 pm | #
hey it worked for Charles Atlas!
Mabel's Wig Shack |
12.05.08 - 11:17 pm | #
hear my train a com'n...
charley |
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12.05.08 - 11:18 pm | #
I have the feeling that even a Friday evening could be spent more profitably than dwelling on the untimely and sudden (and receding in time) death of a hack teebee personality who masqueraded as a journalist....
One would think so.
Echidne |
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12.05.08 - 11:18 pm | #
RE: "The Right Stuff"
One day in Baltimore, I met Chuck Yeager, shook his hand and got an autograph, and then went to the bathroom with Veronica Cartwright.
Chris Tucker: GOP Delenda Est! |
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12.05.08 - 11:18 pm | #
"That's what I mean. We can see other people's backsides more easily."
i worry much more about how my ass tastes then how it looks.
jdw |
12.05.08 - 11:18 pm | #
Oh, and one last thing. I was on the highway on the east side of Wichita when I noticed a big rig pulling up next to me. On the flatbed trailer was this big canister. It was the capsule, being hauled to Hutch in its tank of sea water. Pretty cool...
atablarasa |
Wow. That is cool. I'll have to tell my ex-husband ... he was a space program geek and did an internship at NASA when he was in college.
Brooklyn Girl, shady dame |
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12.05.08 - 11:19 pm | #
was chuck's hand wet?
Mabel's Wig Shack |
12.05.08 - 11:19 pm | #
Nay, all water IN THE WORLD is hot!
it's only a solvent if it's hot
ErinPDX |
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12.05.08 - 11:19 pm | #
hey it worked for Charles Atlas!
Worked not so well for Niedermeyer....
montag |
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12.05.08 - 11:19 pm | #
YOU ARE ALL WORTHLESS AND WEAK
--
Some are quite fond of saying that.
ZenMouser |
12.05.08 - 11:20 pm | #
i worry much more about how my ass tastes then how it looks.
jdw | 12.05.08 - 11:18 pm | #
so do the pterodyctals
Mabel's Wig Shack |
12.05.08 - 11:20 pm | #
Evening, all.
Been away all day -- has the irksome been amongst us?
steve simels |
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12.05.08 - 11:20 pm | #
Blah, blah, blah.
Who gives a shit whether humanity lives or dies? Same answer as above.
Le Jackel |
12.05.08 - 11:20 pm | #
If I wasn't 48, I'd drop and do 20.
MP |
12.05.08 - 11:20 pm | #
Wait, is everybody sick tonight?
I'm wang chung tonight ...
focus, ready to go |
12.05.08 - 11:20 pm | #
I have the feeling that even a Friday evening could be spent more profitably than dwelling on the untimely and sudden (and receding in time) death of a hack teebee personality who masqueraded as a journalist....
montag | Homepage | 12.05.08 - 11:17 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
I can't believe you're praising Russert. He murdered millions. How can you call yourself a liberal?
Death is kind and necessary. It wipes the human slate, and makes way for new ideas. Click my homepage for more information, unless you'd prefer to remain mired in ignorance.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.05.08 - 11:20 pm | #
You guys are all having fun, but it's like 10 degrees here, and we are getting a ton of snow.
Too early for this cold, and this much snow.
Vicki, Cookie Cutter |
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12.05.08 - 11:21 pm | #
One day in Baltimore, I met Chuck Yeager, shook his hand and got an autograph, and then went to the bathroom with Veronica Cartwright.
atablarasa |
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12.05.08 - 11:21 pm | #
how many roads must a boy band walk down
before they can sleep in the sand?
Mabel's Wig Shack |
12.05.08 - 11:21 pm | #
Phila, Pizen Sarpint,
Death? It's just like sleeping - only you don't have to get up for work.
DWD-S☮S |
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12.05.08 - 11:21 pm | #
I'm going to read a book. This sounds promising: 'she is now filled with a surging new ability'
Echidne |
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12.05.08 - 11:22 pm | #
Death is kind and necessary. It wipes the human slate, and makes way for new ideas. Click my homepage for more information, unless you'd prefer to remain mired in ignorance.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint
Well, that may be true, but personally I'd be more than happy to stick around a little while longer.
Brooklyn Girl, shady dame |
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12.05.08 - 11:22 pm | #
Death? It's just like sleeping - only you don't have to get up for work.
DWD-S☮S | Homepage | 12.05.08 - 11:21 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
Death has one thing to be said for it:
There's no need to get out of bed for it.
Wherever you may be,
They bring it to you, free.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.05.08 - 11:23 pm | #
I once to the bathroom with Chuck Yeager, it wasn't kinky.
Le Jackel |
12.05.08 - 11:23 pm | #
That means I'm barely gonna make it to my 33rd birthday.
AndyMN | Homepage | 12.05.08 - 11:22 pm | #
add four curved lines and make it 88
Mabel's Wig Shack |
12.05.08 - 11:24 pm | #
"If I wasn't 48, I'd drop and do 20."
i think i could do that. getting back up is another story.
jdw |
12.05.08 - 11:24 pm | #
I know several who have had theirs removed, only to find that it didn't make their symptoms improve.
Awesome.
That means I'm barely gonna make it to my 33rd birthday.
What are your symptoms? My mother had severe pain after eating fried foods. The pain lasted for a few days, up to a week. Her gall bladder was twice the normal size. The removal worked for her.
Echidne |
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12.05.08 - 11:24 pm | #
Been away all day -- has the irksome been amongst us?
Bettie Page, a 1950s pinup known for her raven-haired bangs and saucy come-hither looks, was hospitalized in intensive care after suffering a heart attack, her agent said Friday.
"She's critically ill," Mark Roesler of CMG Worldwide told The Associated Press.
He said the 85-year-old had been hospitalized for the last three weeks with pneumonia and was about to be released when she had the heart attack Tuesday. Page was transferred to another hospital in Los Angeles and remained in intensive care Friday.
A family friend, Todd Mueller, said Page was in a coma. When asked to confirm, Roesler said, "I would not deny that." Roesler would not comment further on her condition.
And the guy who really helped bring Page back into the limelight in the 80s, Dave Stevens, sadly passed away this year...
Death has one thing to be said for it:
There's no need to get out of bed for it.
Wherever you may be,
They bring it to you, free.
Phila
for some, it costs their life savings
::matthew |
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12.05.08 - 11:25 pm | #
Death is kind and necessary. It wipes the human slate, and makes way for new ideas. Click my homepage for more information, unless you'd prefer to remain mired in ignorance.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint | Homepage | 12.05.08 - 11:20 pm | #
I am intrigued...
rorschach, superfluous |
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12.05.08 - 11:25 pm | #
That means I'm barely gonna make it to my 33rd birthday.
AndyMN | Homepage | 12.05.08 - 11:22 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
The doctors thought I had gallbladder problems recently, but they ruled it out pretty quickly. Have you had blood test, ultrasound, etc.?
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.05.08 - 11:25 pm | #
Barney Frank is a very bright and circumspect man.
You guys are all having fun, but it's like 10 degrees here, and we are getting a ton of snow.
Too early for this cold, and this much snow.
Down to 61 in Mesa at the moment. I had to actually consider putting on a jacket to go to work this morning.
atablarasa |
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12.05.08 - 11:26 pm | #
You guys are all having fun, but it's like 10 degrees here, and we are getting a ton of snow.
10 whole degrees?
You are spoilt!
It was 1 when I "got up" this morning.
rorschach, superfluous |
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12.05.08 - 11:26 pm | #
Dude, I am quite aware that I am, "That guy."
Le Jackel |
12.05.08 - 11:26 pm | #
What are your symptoms? My mother had severe pain after eating fried foods. The pain lasted for a few days, up to a week. Her gall bladder was twice the normal size. The removal worked for her.
"Fluttering" right beneath the right rib. Acid-reflux. Light-headedness.
AndyMN |
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12.05.08 - 11:27 pm | #
It's not yet gloves weather here. In the thirties and forties, most days.
Echidne |
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12.05.08 - 11:27 pm | #
This thread will later be famous as the one in which it was revealed that all Eschaton commenters have gallbladder problems.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.05.08 - 11:27 pm | #
they say low of 40 here tonight in N Florida
::matthew |
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12.05.08 - 11:28 pm | #
shit, now i got gall bladder problems.
jdw |
12.05.08 - 11:28 pm | #
"Fluttering" right beneath the right rib. Acid-reflux. Light-headedness.
I don't remember her having any other symptoms but the pain. It was severe enough to make her go and have tests.
Echidne |
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12.05.08 - 11:28 pm | #
Except me. I don't have gallbladder problems.
Vicki, Cookie Cutter |
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12.05.08 - 11:28 pm | #
I have three short poems by Langston Hughes to share. (And if I have done it before, it is because poetry is timeless)
Peace
We passed their graves:
The dead men there,
Winners or losers,
Did not care.
In the dark
They could not see
Who had gained
The victory.
DWD-S☮S |
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12.05.08 - 11:29 pm | #
I have an adder in my stomach
Mabel's Wig Shack |
12.05.08 - 11:29 pm | #
I have whacked up against a kidney, have I whackey up against a gallbladder? Yet?
Le Jackel |
12.05.08 - 11:29 pm | #
"Fluttering" right beneath the right rib. Acid-reflux. Light-headedness.
AndyMN | Homepage | 12.05.08 - 11:27 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
Sounds like stress, to me. My first visit to the ER for symptoms like those was when I was eighteen. Since then, I pretty much live with it.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.05.08 - 11:29 pm | #
AndyMN, do you drink a lot of coffee?
Echidne |
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12.05.08 - 11:29 pm | #
"Fluttering" right beneath the right rib. Acid-reflux. Light-headedness.
As in an irregular, butterfly-like heartbeat?
Brooklyn Girl, shady dame |
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12.05.08 - 11:29 pm | #
Suicide's Note
The calm,
Cool face of the river
Asked me for a kiss
DWD-S☮S |
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12.05.08 - 11:29 pm | #
Sick Room
How quiet
It is in this sick room
Where on the bed
A silent woman lies between two lovers-
Life and Death,
And all three covered witha sheet of pain.
DWD-S☮S |
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12.05.08 - 11:30 pm | #
Pure? If you say so.
Le Jackel |
12.05.08 - 11:30 pm | #
anyone wanna talk fucking brain cancer so i can get that, too?
jdw |
12.05.08 - 11:31 pm | #
I don't remember her having any other symptoms but the pain. It was severe enough to make her go and have tests.
Echidne | Homepage | 12.05.08 - 11:28 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
Gallbladder attacks are supposed to be absolutely agonizing. "Fluttering" definitely doesn't cover it.
I recommend chewing deglycerrhizinated licorice for the reflux.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.05.08 - 11:31 pm | #
I'm down to two cups of coffee a day, Echidne. Have been for some time. Only because of previous panic attacks.
But I'm worried about the digestive bit. I'm worried about my ability to pee.
AndyMN |
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12.05.08 - 11:31 pm | #
anyone wanna talk fucking brain cancer so i can get that, too?
jdw | 12.05.08 - 11:31 pm | #
so i heard that some people in their sleep actually *seek out* the stapling gun
Mabel's Wig Shack |
12.05.08 - 11:31 pm | #
atablarasa, It was at the World Science Fiction Convention in Baltimore. I was there and volunteering.
One of the big program items was about "The Right Stuff". Col. Yeager was there, along with Gordo Cooper and diverse stars from the film.
So, at the end of the presentation, I get a call on the 49 Mhz headset radio: "Chris, wanna escort Veronica Cartwright to the ladies room? She REALLY NEEDS TO GO RIGHT NOW!" I get backstage and essentially, I was just to fend off the fans and autograph hounds.
So I "went to the bathroom" with her and waited outside. Then got her back to the room so she could leave with the rest of the group.
The Yeager handshake and autograph (on a still from the movie, him standing next to the BELL X-1) was the highlight for me.
Chris Tucker: GOP Delenda Est! |
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12.05.08 - 11:32 pm | #
Caroline Kennedy for NY Senator!
Vicki, Cookie Cutter |
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12.05.08 - 11:32 pm | #
i think i could do that. getting back up is another story.
jdw
49, smoke,drink, a lot, and can do 50. no prob.
ok, maybe jimi doesn't do this better. but still, it's jimi.
charley |
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12.05.08 - 11:33 pm | #
So far nothing has been added or removed from my body surgically...hopefully this will last for some time
::matthew |
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12.05.08 - 11:33 pm | #
Anyone want to talk about sex so I can get laid?
Vicki, Cookie Cutter |
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12.05.08 - 11:33 pm | #
anyone wanna talk fucking brain cancer so i can get that, too?
jdw | 12.05.08 - 11:31 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
The great thing about brain cancer is that you probably won't realize you have it. My mother talked like a 45 single on 16rpm, but to her, it sounded right. She had no sense of her own deficits at all.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.05.08 - 11:33 pm | #
I'm down to two cups of coffee a day, Echidne. Have been for some time. Only because of previous panic attacks.
But I'm worried about the digestive bit. I'm worried about my ability to pee.
If you are on any new medication you might want to check the side-effects. But a checkup would probably be good, because it would set your mind at rest.
Echidne |
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12.05.08 - 11:33 pm | #
My sister-in-law had nagging pain that was diagnosed as a gall bladder problem. Had the gall bladder out, and it still hurt.
Turned out to be stomach cancer. She was gone three months later.
Get it looked at by someone who knows what the fuck they're doing. You should be able to find someone there in the TC.
theodoric of athens |
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12.05.08 - 11:34 pm | #
I'm very glad I have the digestive tract of a goat. I'd really miss those hot peppers and interesting sauces.
I feel badly for people with delicate stomachs, recalcitrant gall bladders and colitic bowels. They're missing out on some of the best in life. ~!~
montag |
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12.05.08 - 11:34 pm | #
Caroline Kennedy for NY Senator!
Vicki, Cookie Cutter
isn't that amazing,
i hope it happens.
the liberal lioness of the senate.
charley |
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12.05.08 - 11:34 pm | #
Vicki,
Sex? What is that? Memory fails me.
DWD-S☮S |
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12.05.08 - 11:34 pm | #
I apparently am saying "screw it," because I've been awake for 27 hours and just ordered a pizza.
End of semester? You betcha!
rorschach, superfluous |
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12.05.08 - 11:34 pm | #
Caroline is meeting with Paterson tomorrow to discuss the Senate opportunity.
Vicki, Cookie Cutter |
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12.05.08 - 11:34 pm | #
charley would rightously overwhelm me in a push up contest.
MP |
12.05.08 - 11:35 pm | #
Coffee contributes to heart trouble? We were kind of hoping that the coffeeness of it would wash away the buttery plaque...
k&y, DESTROY! |
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12.05.08 - 11:35 pm | #
Caroline is meeting with Paterson tomorrow to discuss the Senate opportunity.
Vicki, Cookie Cutter | Homepage | 12.05.08 - 11:34 pm | #
he won't be able to see if she's watching a video on her cell phone
Mabel's Wig Shack |
12.05.08 - 11:35 pm | #
My sister-in-law had nagging pain that was diagnosed as a gall bladder problem. Had the gall bladder out, and it still hurt. Turned out to be stomach cancer. She was gone three months later.
I have to say that I'm not much into dynastic politicians.
And that I'd love to see Caroline Kennedy in there. I really liked what she said about privacy...
atablarasa |
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12.05.08 - 11:36 pm | #
I'm down to two cups of coffee a day, Echidne. Have been for some time. Only because of previous panic attacks.
But I'm worried about the digestive bit. I'm worried about my ability to pee.
AndyMN | Homepage | 12.05.08 - 11:31 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
If you're prone to panic attacks, and you're drinking two cups of coffee a day, look no further for the source of your symptoms. Seriously.
Knock the caffeine off entirely. Chew DGL tablets. And take up breathing exercises. I'll bet you you'll feel better in a week or less.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.05.08 - 11:36 pm | #
charley would rightously overwhelm me in a push up contest.
I used to be able to do lots when I did karate. Sixty without breaks was my record. I haven't tried for a while because the qigong training doesn't like us doing them.
Echidne |
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12.05.08 - 11:37 pm | #
I really like the idea of caroline kennedy in the senate seat. As long as she'd run to keep it in 2 years
::matthew |
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12.05.08 - 11:37 pm | #
You know, oddly enough I really do agree with the people who want to replace Obama with an African-American and Senator Clinton with a woman.
Fair is fair. If the governor of Illinois (and I won't try to spell his name this late) appoints a black person: it would be just as the Senate has NO African-Americans.
Same for Caroline Kennedy - I would think that she would be great.
DWD-S☮S |
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12.05.08 - 11:37 pm | #
DWD: that clip from Rachel including Barney Frank is terrific; highly recommended. Rachel mentions the 'Kentucky-subsidised, union free Toyota plants Mitch McConnell loves' aren't doing so well, either...
You have failed in your obligations. We are here to correct that. Don't cry, or you will be beaten senseless. Your victories are our victories and we are not inclined to lose."
Adding, I don't mean "look no further" literally. A check-up's still a good idea. But I'd do that other stuff in the meantime.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.05.08 - 11:38 pm | #
I'd rather see Nydia Velazquez or Nita Lowey over Caroline Kennedy ... both are very deserving and have earned the right to the seat.
Sick of the whole dynastic thing, frankly.
Brooklyn Girl, shady dame |
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12.05.08 - 11:39 pm | #
"Happy Holidays!"
can't atrios post some shit video?
maybe some trolls can show up?
jdw |
12.05.08 - 11:39 pm | #
Now, if anyone here can cure my sinusitis / lymphoma, I'll be very grateful.
Barney Frank said 'This underlines the stupidity of America's health policy'. Good on him...
ProfWombat |
12.05.08 - 11:41 pm | #
I could try trolling, if you like.
So, Libs, how come Barry hasn't fixed the economy yet? LOL.
Palin in 2010!!
How's that?
BlueinColorado
You don't know how to troll, you sick blue fuck from someplacenobodyeverheardabout.
Echidne |
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12.05.08 - 11:42 pm | #
I'd love to see Caroline in the Senate.
NTodd, Wintery |
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12.05.08 - 11:42 pm | #
well, to be fair, it's quite a broken line without too many dynastys to speak of
Mabel's Wig Shack | 12.05.08 - 11:40 pm
Be honest ... if she weren't named Kennedy, would you think twice about her?
She has a life of supporting great liberal causes, and I like her, but I'm not sure she's tough enough to be a Senator, especially from NY.
Velazquez, Lowey, even Louise Slaughter could hit the ground running.
Brooklyn Girl, shady dame |
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12.05.08 - 11:43 pm | #
Sick of the whole dynastic thing, frankly.
Brooklyn Girl,
Bothers me, too. And she seems quite bright but one of the least dynamic of public figures. I've seen people say she's just a place holder till 2012, and others say she'd be unbeatable in '12. If she's just a fill in, forget it. Put someone in who will take advantage of incumbency.
BlueinColorado |
12.05.08 - 11:43 pm | #
I'll chime in on the medicine bit on my way out: You are the only one who has to live, or not, with what's going on. If you like your doctors, trust but verify the hell out of things. If you don't, do your own research. Doctors are just fine for sewing you up (though they may leave a few items inside) or setting a break most of the time, but when it comes to something like a fluttering pain on the right side, eh, not so much.
I spent years on a treadmill of doctors before I got an alternative medicine type to treat me and not the gaddam test results.
And hell yes I'm still pissed about it. I told the very first one what the likely problem was and I was right.
atablarasa |
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12.05.08 - 11:43 pm | #
But you're the one who told me about that near-drowning irrigation stuff. It has worked very well for me.
Echidne | Homepage | 12.05.08 - 11:41 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
Normally does for me, too...but this is very weird. It's like a subacute thing that's mainly affecting my lymph nodes. At least, I'm assuming it is.
4legs thinks I actually have the same virus that she had recently, which could be the case, I guess. It's held on a long while.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.05.08 - 11:43 pm | #
I could try trolling, if you like.
So, Libs, how come Barry hasn't fixed the economy yet? LOL.
Palin in 2010!!
How's that?
FAIL!!!
Grammatically acceptable and no misspellings.
montag |
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12.05.08 - 11:44 pm | #
what's wrong with panic attacks?
If you don't know, you've never had one.
rorschach, superfluous |
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12.05.08 - 11:44 pm | #
Medicare for all. The system is already in place. It is so logical that it probably won't happen.
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12.05.08 - 11:44 pm | #
Put someone in who will take advantage of incumbency.
BlueinColorado | 12.05.08 - 11:43 pm |
You said it much better than I did.
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12.05.08 - 11:45 pm | #
Grammatically acceptable and no misspellings.
montag
C'mon! I called him "Barry" and suggested the next pres election is in two years.
someone planted a cactus in an old sneaker ...
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12.05.08 - 11:46 pm | #
You don't know how to troll, you sick blue fuck from someplacenobodyeverheardabout.
Echidne | Homepage | 12.05.08 - 11:42 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
I just spent ten lovely days in CO...I was shocked to find that there are a lot of irrationally angry, not very bright, politically conservative white folks there. More than I thought, actually. Couldn't go out of my hotel room without bumping into them.
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12.05.08 - 11:46 pm | #
Professor Wombat,
A new song is winging your way. It is really nice. Really nice.
Couldn't go out of my hotel room without bumping into them.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint
So apparently they hadn't learned how to walk in a straight line, either.
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12.05.08 - 11:47 pm | #
That might work, Echidne, especially if at the same time CHIPS is made universal for all children and youth under 21.
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I just spent ten lovely days in CO...I was shocked to find that there are a lot of irrationally angry, not very bright, politically conservative white folks there. More than I thought, actually. Couldn't go out of my hotel room without bumping into them.
There's a center of religious right-wingers in Colorado, right?
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12.05.08 - 11:47 pm | #
"How's that?"
a little weak, but it's a first try. try again.
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12.05.08 - 11:47 pm | #
Tough crowd, tough crowd.
It's inevitable that the comment thread with the most absurd, mentally deficient and painfully ill-informed trolls in the known universe would develop some standards.
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12.05.08 - 11:48 pm | #
That might work, Echidne, especially if at the same time CHIPS is made universal for all children and youth under 21.
Yes, either at the same time or one of these as the first step. The resistance is probably going to be less for incremental changes.
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12.05.08 - 11:48 pm | #
I just spent ten lovely days in CO...I was shocked to find that there are a lot of irrationally angry, not very bright, politically conservative white folks there. More than I thought, actually. Couldn't go out of my hotel room without bumping into them.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint | Homepage | 12.05.08 - 11:46 pm | #
What city?
I lasted three wretched months in Boulder, ostensibly liberal.
rorschach, superfluous |
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12.05.08 - 11:49 pm | #
I just spent ten lovely days in CO...I was shocked to find that there are a lot of irrationally angry, not very bright, politically conservative white folks there.
James Dobson is in the Springs, a lot of Denver suburbs are prime Limbaugh/Hannity country, lots of gun-clinging, UN-paranoids up in the mountains, and the eastern half of the state is Nebraska without the cosmopolitain islands of Lincoln and Omaha.
But we've got a Dem governor, two Democratic Senators (or at least one and a half) and we fired Marilyn Musgrave.
BlueinColorado |
12.05.08 - 11:49 pm | #
and as for dynasties, if I had to choose a family to have one: it would be the Kennedys.
I believe that they have done as much as any small group of people in this country to support reasonable, and just policies that, in the end, are detrimental to their own interests.
I really liked her: smart, well-spoken and not at all showy.
montag: was reading up north about how expressing sympathy for the suddenly dead was equivalent to an embrace of their life work. That's some kind of cognitive failure...
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12.05.08 - 11:49 pm | #
What'd I do wrong?
Who shot who in the what, now?
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12.05.08 - 11:49 pm | #
hey, i know, let's make an electric car.
the weird thing is i see them all the time.
i wouldn't want to be in one with all those gas monsters out there, but it can be done.
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12.05.08 - 11:50 pm | #
There's a center of religious right-wingers in Colorado, right?
Echidne | Homepage | 12.05.08 - 11:47 pm | #
Colorado Springs is rather a nightmare.
rorschach, superfluous |
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I'd also like to see an Hispanic woman in the Clinton slot, frankly. They are sorely underrepresented.
Brooklyn Girl, shady dame |
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12.05.08 - 11:50 pm | #
I don't know what my son would do if he did not have CHIPS for my three grandsons. He could not possibly pay what the state charges for its teacher's coverage.
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12.05.08 - 11:50 pm | #
There's a center of religious right-wingers in Colorado, right?
Echidne |
James Dobson, and the Air Force Academy.
BlueinColorado |
12.05.08 - 11:51 pm | #
Night, all
In these times it is important to remember that change is coming quickly. And even a centrist Democratic President will be an amazing change in this country.
I believe his charisma and intelligence will help work us out of this funk.
She has a life of supporting great liberal causes, and I like her, but I'm not sure she's tough enough to be a Senator, especially from NY.
She's got a strong resume' wrt to social issues and community service. She's an attorney; degrees from Harvard and Columbia. And she's exactly my kind of liberal: left, left, left.
I hear what you're saying, though: you think it should be earned, and I grok that.
But she'd do NY State proud, I think.
I don't know this, so I'm speculating, but I think she's tough as nails. Look at everything she's been through. You don't go through tragic, life altering situations without really fucking yourself up or really overcoming your sorrow to evolve to the next level of good.
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12.05.08 - 11:51 pm | #
and the meth-addled pastor who had a "masseur" on annual retainer. His name escapes me but he was based in the Springs, too.
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12.05.08 - 11:52 pm | #
Any state where there's any plausible excuse whatsover, for that state's US Senator to wear a Stetson cowboy hat, then look the fuck out.
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12.05.08 - 11:52 pm | #
James Dobson, and the Air Force Academy.
And the former bullshit festival of Ted Haggard--the New Life Church.
montag |
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12.05.08 - 11:52 pm | #
Jay put up more thread!
Echidne |
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12.05.08 - 11:54 pm | #
What city?
I lasted three wretched months in Boulder, ostensibly liberal.
rorschach, superfluous | Homepage | 12.05.08 - 11:49 pm | # [kill]
I was in Denver. Which I actually like. Boulder gives me a pain, frankly. If I'm gonna be in a town full of hippies, I at least wanna be able to get decent vegetarian food....
I was pretty amazed by the number of virulently anti-Obama loudmouths I ran into, though.
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12.05.08 - 11:54 pm | #
She's got a strong resume' wrt to social issues and community service.
She's an attorney; degrees from Harvard and Columbia. And she's exactly
my kind of liberal: left, left, left.
And that's more than enough. She'll learn and grow and probably be able to hold her own in 2010.
That might work, Echidne, especially if at the same time CHIPS is made universal for all children and youth under 21.
Ponch and Jon for every child.
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12.05.08 - 11:54 pm | #
montag: was reading up north about how expressing sympathy for the suddenly dead was equivalent to an embrace of their life work. That's some kind of cognitive failure...
Yup. Without trying to evade Godwin's Law, it must be noted that Mussolini and Hitler died suddenly, too....
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12.05.08 - 11:54 pm | #
Colorado is the main hive for the megachurches.
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12.05.08 - 11:55 pm | #
charley, did you see the promo film for Sandoz at my place? Thought that might be up your alley....
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montag: was reading up north about how expressing sympathy for the suddenly dead was equivalent to an embrace of their life work. That's some kind of cognitive failure...
ProfWombat
which is to say, thought is your enemy, death is your only friend.
then again, when i die no one is going to give my daughter a job. but, that's her problem.
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12.05.08 - 11:55 pm | #
I was in Denver. Which I actually like. Boulder gives me a pain, frankly. If I'm gonna be in a town full of hippies, I at least wanna be able to get decent vegetarian food....
That's what pissed me off, too.
All these kids in their Birkenstocks driving their daddy's SUVs. And the city didn't even have recycling pickup--and when I fled to New Orleans, I found that that decadent city did!
anytime, really
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12.06.08 - 12:06 am | #
MP lol
my jaw did just drop there, friend
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12.06.08 - 12:07 am | #
Well, that's the beauty, everyone dies sometime.
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12.06.08 - 12:07 am | #
I've listened to a lot of people talk about death, and seen a fair number of deaths. Everyone (almost) acknowledges death as an essential part of life. Some have read Kubler-Ross and the like, and want to have a good death. Anyone who's ever dealt with hospice knows that if angels indeed walk on this earth, some of 'em work there.
But good deaths, quiet peaceful passings, don't happen all that often, even with the best of a priori intent. And hospice, which can be wonderful, isn't for everybody; not everybody's cut out to have a dying love expire in their home next to them, or deteriorate slowly. Fact is, it's difficult. Some make it look easy; most don't. And there's no point minimizing the fact, or denying it.
I used to tell families that if they found it hard, that was OK, and if they didn't, that was OK, too, but they shouldn't be alone, and they shouldn't think themselves, either way, morally culpable, weak or inadequate. The palpable relief with which this realtively simple observation elicited was sometimes astounding; some, overdosed on Deepak Chopra guesting on Oprah or the like, desperately needed permission to be human.
ProfWombat |
12.06.08 - 12:07 am | #
My grandmother died at 96, after years of dementia, she hadn't recognized her children in five years, and hadn't spoken for almost two. I hadn't seen her more than five years. She was in a nursing home on the other side of the country, and my father always discouraged me from going to see her, and since I was afraid to see her like that, I let him.
I still cried when she died.
BlueinColorado |
12.06.08 - 12:11 am | #
everyone dies sometime.
Le Jackel | 12.06.08 - 12:07 am | #
In the words of the Bard, "So it goes."
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12.06.08 - 12:11 am | #
There was some poster here who had a grandparent born in teh 1860's.
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12.06.08 - 12:13 am | #
rose say la ve
maglev vVVv fan |
12.06.08 - 12:17 am | #
I like Woody Allen's line.
That famous theologian Woody Allen once said, "When I die, all I want is just a few of my good friends to gather around the casket, and do everything in their power to bring me back to life."
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