I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
No way!
Zowie!
foirst
*shakes fist*
It will never stop.
Somebody posted sheets without planting the flag? Or were they just calling sheets on the wrong thread?
5th?
3 whole days of love and peace and fun, not.
right there with ya, hoss. i woke up this morning and thought, "my gawd, it's going to be over, soon." it was a happy moment.
The trolls running about with their fanciful "game-changers" is kinda amusing.
Hey, you're an A-List blogger. You make it stop!
this is just the pregnancy.
we actually have to raise the child.
BTW - who the hell is "D. J. Hughley" and why does CNN think I care?
OTOH, Petzold is just vile and repugnant.
STOP! RIGHT NOW!
well, i did my best.
We've made it this far somewhat intact. We can do 3 days standing on our heads.
what's going to be ugly is the two.2 months after the election. how much lame duck rethug crime do we expect? i really, really hate the 'theory' of the unitary executive, but at this point i hope obama embraces it fully; nothing else will be able to undo all the last minute profit taking and unconstitutionality that i expect from the bushies on their way out.
CNN catapulting the illegal aunt story now. These motherfuckers really make me want to to line all those Fleur-de-Lys ironwork fences in the fancy parts of DC with their severed heads.
BTW - who the hell is "D. J. Hughley" and why does CNN think I care?
Unfunny sitcom comedian, and I'm not sure what CNN thinks. You see who they employ?
I, nonetheless feel it is important to note this major qualitative difference between the change elections that brought the conservatives into power and this one bringing the Democrats back. The Republicans pointed to the election results (even those of 2000 and 2004) as evidence if not proof that the people had rejected liberalism whilst many now are pointing to reality's rejection of unregulated market fundamentalism as evidence if not proof of reality's rejection of unregulated market fundamentalism. The latter, being a tautology, is somewhat easier to defend logically.
ina, i'm in the village but someone else is going to have to do that whole birthing thing, m'kay?
Early Voting Porn
Florida: Dems +7%
Georgia: Blacks +25% Women +16%
New Mexico: Dems +21%
North Carolina: Blacks +43% Women +14%
Iowa: Dems +19%
Suck on that, Cranky.
http://elections.gmu.edu/
early_v..._vote_2008.html
Very unfunny.
nothing else will be able to undo all the last minute profit taking and unconstitutionality that i expect from the bushies on their way out.
I expect them to REALLY trash the WH on the way out.
You know, like they lied about Clinton doing in 2000.
chicago dyke, leatherqueen | Homepage | 11.01.08 - 11:09 am |
hell, maybe we could put impeachment on the table in time for thanksgiving.
Unfunny sitcom comedian,
c'mon - d.l. can be funny. at least his standup can be.
don't know why he's got a news show, though.
this is just the pregnancy.
we actually have to raise the child.
ina, typo city
I had always wondered what it would be like to be 9 months + 2 weeks pregnant.
[Crap...got deadthreaded...oh well]
My political career is over, for the GOP has leaked to the Swansea Weekly Shopper that I am the illegitimate son of Rickie Lee Jones and Leon Askin.
See for yourself!
Time for some late breakfast.
Y'all take care of your good selves, and thanks for the early morning exercise.
GWB's gonna leave office in a blaze of deregulation. You know, MBA, and shit.
what's going to be ugly is the two.2 months after the election. how much lame duck rethug crime do we expect?
There are buck-toothed teenagers, just this very second, sitting in hanger in some Air Force base somewhere, scrawling obscene messages to the "Arabs" on bombs they're about send off to be dropped on Iran.
Obama's DOJ is going to bust some fucking skulls.
attorney general eric holder.
mark my words.
CNN catapulting the illegal aunt story now.
because barack's relative is an 'illegal?' or because he isn't pulling strings to help her?
or both?
I am losing it. The election, the economy. I am not sleeping well or rather worse than usual. I'll bet I'm not alone in my suffering.
Gromit: see Jackie Maretsky, MSNBC weather-woman; she might be that pregnant.
what's going to be ugly is the two.2 months after the election.
They're already trying to ram through a whole passel of last-minute corporation-friendly deregulation.
c'mon - d.l. can be funny. at least his standup can be.
don't know why he's got a news show, though.
Perhaps, I guess. It's been eons since I've seen him.
Is this CNN's answer to the Daily Show? If it is, nice try.
ina, i'm in the village but someone else is going to have to do that whole birthing thing, m'kay?
chicago dyke, leatherqueen |
you've helped with the pushing and contractions. he's almost out, our newborn 47yo first black president.
hell, maybe we could put impeachment on the table in time for thanksgiving.
ina, typo city |
i know speaker hoyer will be worse, but i will never forgive nanci for that. i was just reading an interview yesterday where she was prattling about why she took it off the table, "blah blah, we're more focused on getting things done, blah" and i thought, yeah, bitch. like handing bush all the money he wants for more war and passing fisa and the bailout bill.
i've really come to hate her and i can't wait until she retires. enabling vichy collaborater, she is.
c'mon - d.l. can be funny. at least his standup can be.
I agree.
don't know why he's got a news show, though.
Given the fact that Tweety, Joe Scarbro, Billo, Tucky Wucky, etc., have had news shows, why not?
They're already trying to ram through a whole passel of last-minute corporation-friendly deregulation.
Buzz Bomb | 11.01.08 - 11:13 am | #
too bad we don't have a democratic congress to stop them.
oops, simels regrets the error.
to = "that will"
The trolls running about with their fanciful "game-changers" is kinda amusing.
plantsman
I wish they would all go away.
They're embarrassing themselves.
Particular the knuckle-dragging racist types.
Given the fact that Tweety, Joe Scarbro, Billo, Tucky Wucky, etc., have had news shows, why not?
I think news shows have been to the last few years like talk shows were to the mid-90s.
McCain actually carries around that Joe the Plumber ahole to campaign rallies.
What a fucking putz.
Tee-hee.
HICA!
.
.Obama's DOJ is going to bust some fucking skulls.
I hope so. Merely beating the Repukes is not enough. They need the Curtis LeMay treament. Whatever money the Obami have left after this is over needs to go toward making every decent person in America ashamed to admit they ever supported the Republicans.
Game changers are irrelevant; game called on account of TEH STOOPID!
Well, otherwise Joe stands him up.
CNN catapulting the illegal aunt story now.
Let me ask the rightards this:
Do THEY go to bat for all of THEIR relatives?
I'm betting not.
actually, i think the reason d.l. has a news show is that glenn beck was such a miserable costly failure. and this is cnn's way of trying a "liberal" point of view. 'coz we liberals are such jokers - no sense having a serious guy on, see, they tried that with glenn and didn't work.
excuse me, i think i'll go somewhere and cry for a while.
McCain actually carries around that Joe the Plumber ahole to campaign rallies.
He calls Joe-The-Not-Plumber his "personal hero", as well.
As I said to Southern Beale,
"So his "personal hero" is a guy who does a job he's not licensed for, doesn't pay his taxes, is ignorant and proud of it, and is given to opening his cakehole and giving free expression to the aforementioned ignorance.
Okay, then."
Do you know what's really, really disturbing? Dolly from the Family Circus dressed up as Sarah Palin for Halloween!
JP, that Dole ad is so offensive, I can't begin to describe it.
CNN catapulting the illegal aunt story now.
What about a story on McCain's first wife that he dumped for Beer Barbie?
Oy, you said it Atrios.
.i've really come to hate her and i can't wait until she retires. enabling vichy collaborater, she is.
chicago dyke, leatherqueen i've really come to hate her and i can't wait until she retires. enabling vichy collaborater, she is.
chicago dyke, leatherqueen
You would have gotten far less done as Speaker of the House.
did y'all see that oprah's vote may not have been counted by her video poker voting machine? perhaps she'll devote a show to them now. sigh, this is one of those times when i'm not happy at all to be in the 'told you so' camp.
McCain actually carries around that Joe the Plumber ahole to campaign rallies.
What a fucking putz.
MP
Joe will be a footnote in history - in a forthcoming edition of "Trivial Pursuit"
i've really come to hate her and i can't wait until she retires. enabling vichy collaborater, she is.
chicago dyke, leatherqueen
do you have a link to the interview?
i was just wondering again yesterday why gore blew up her skirt at the kos thing, saying how great she is...
Going to look at the property, probably this afternoon, assuming Mrs. Moe finishes her grading. There's a place just down the road called "Meeting House Hill."
The Family Circus was never funny.
Pennsylvania judge tosses R suit against ACORN, rules people can wear whatever shit they want to vote. Or at least that counties can establish their own rules of attire, the state cannot.
(link was to Allentown Morning Call story on the subject but link doesn't want to work. haloscan ritually abused for suckage.)
Besides CNN, FOX is going apeshit over Obama's aunt and Drudge's working it.
Weren't families (and presumably they're problems) supposed to be 'off limits'?
.
this is cnn's way of trying a "liberal" point of view. 'coz we liberals are such jokers - no sense having a serious guy on, see, they tried that with glenn and didn't work.
Their tag line for the show (on CNN.com, anway) was something about "Sometimes you just have to throw up your hands and laugh!"
Well, I can agree with the first part of it.
Someone snapped a pic of Toby when he was trick or treating last eve.
(just pic)
So, 3 more days of McCain shit-tossing? It can't end soon enough.
sure, blerb. and that's why i didn't run for the job.
go on and make excuses for her. history will record her as a massive FAIL.
Oprah should have known better than to use a video voting machine.
The Family Circus was never funny.
plantsman
True, but it's prime fodder for the Comics Curmudgeon. And that's v funny.
Someone snapped a pic of Toby when he was trick or treating last eve.
the 'eastern shore cleavage' is a nice touch.
actually, it's too bad d.l. didn't get that 'chocolate news' show on comedy central.
it's a better network for him, and he might have actually been able to make it funny.
ot, but thought y'all enjoy this biofuels link.
verasun files chapter 11.
the ceo is a dude i've known for years. he made a fortune back in the dot com boom, then plowed it all into verasun. they have 16 different facilities now with around $1.9 billion in debt.
Someone snapped a pic of Toby when he was trick or treating last eve.
That is genius. They even made a fake ass crack for the dog!
Cool, Moe: I hope you get to see it.
slanties are the cosmos' way of telling me it's time to head back to work.
later, kidz.
Chicago Dyke for Secretary of Kicking Ass
From Andy Tanenbaum's electoral-vote.com:
Republican candidates for the Senate in Oregon, Louisiana, North Carolina and elsewhere have de facto given up on John McCain and are urging voters to support them as a counterweight to President Obama. They say that one-party rule is bad for the country. Interestingly enough, in 2004, when Republican control of Congress was assured, few Republicans were advocating a vote for John Kerry in order to prevent the dreaded one-party rule. In 2000, 85% of the people voted for the same party for the Senate as for President, so in practice, people do not really split their tickets just to give each party some power. In fact, when Congress and the White House are controlled by different parties, everyone bemoans "the gridlock in Washington."
did y'all see that oprah's vote may not have been counted by her video poker voting machine?
yep. but hey, acorn submitted a registration form for mickey mouse, so it all evens out.
right?
I better get some work done too. See ya'all later.
ina, it was a local dead tree paper, so no linkee, sorry.
the 'eastern shore cleavage' is a nice touch.
heh.
I live on the 'Eastern Shore'.
Dubbed the 'Shithouse Side of Maryland' by William Donald Sheaffer.
There's a place just down the road called "Meeting House Hill."
Moe Szyslak |
wouldn't that be 'up' the road?
[sorry, the editor in me couldn't resist!]
WASHINGTON (AP) — Barack Obama's aunt, a Kenyan woman who has been quietly living in public housing in Boston, is in the United States illegally after an immigration judge rejected her request for asylum four years ago, The Associated Press has learned.
Zeituni Onyango (zay-TUHN on-YANG-oh), referred to as "Aunti Zeituni" in the Democratic presidential candidate's memoir, was instructed to leave the United States by a U.S. immigration judge who denied her asylum request, a person familiar with the matter told the AP late Friday. This person spoke on condition of anonymity because no one was authorized to discuss Onyango's case.
Onyango, 56, is Obama's late father's half-sister, the Obama campaign has confirmed. She is not a relative whom Obama, 47, has discussed in campaign appearances and, unlike Obama's father and his maternal grandmother, is not someone who has been part of the public discussion about his personal life.
The Obama campaign declined to comment late Friday night.
Information about the deportation case was disclosed and confirmed by two separate sources, one a federal law enforcement official. The information they made available is known to officials in the federal government, but the AP could not establish whether anyone at a political level in the Bush administration or in the McCain campaign had been involved in its release.
http://ap.google.com/article/
ALe...FtqRIAD94669900
Oprah should have known better than to use a video voting machine.
I'd sacrifice one vote for some righteous outrage from Oprah.
plantsman: JP, that Dole ad is so offensive, I can't begin to describe it.
S'ok -- she drank a gallon of the Bachmann koolaid. Only in Dole's case, she was going to lose, anyway... unlike Bachmann.
.
The SnorgTee chicks must be stopped.
ina, it was a local dead tree paper, so no linkee, sorry.
chicago dyke, leatherqueen |
ah. i've never read any interviews with her. i bet i can find some similar stuff through the google.
I mean seriously, ChiDy, it amazes me that you can be such an apparently intelligent person and yet have such a poor understanding of how politics works in America. You would not last 5 minutes as a candidate in this system, and you must know that.
Not to change the subject, but do I like 'Le Dix'? Balenciaga?
Any of you folks had to deal with Paul Dorr?
He's a racist pig that runs around the country saying that inner-city tax levies for schools hate white people. He's a sick fuck that really needs to be stopped.
fyi | 11.01.08 - 11:22 am |
there are 9,999,999 more of these stories out there.
go read them all.
"If some of your contributors are atheists, shouldn't you KILL them?"
So what happened to Moose-o-lini's snowmobile boyfriend? Is she free of witches per her minister? When's the wedding for the preggers daughter? What about McCain's girlfriend, his affair with Cindy the Anorexic Confection, his confession to North Vietnamese, the "accident" on the U. S. S. Forrestal in which more than 100 died, the other mysterious traffic accident....???
The SnorgTee chicks must be stopped.
Their perkiness is invincible, and cannot be stemmed.
The SnorgTee chicks must be stopped.
There's one I'd like to "stop" if y'know what I mean.
Do you know what's really, really disturbing? Dolly from the Family Circus dressed up as Sarah Palin for Halloween!
AndyMN
What's even more disturbing is that I remember that cartoon from the early 1960s when I was a kid...and no one in that strip has aged a day.
Interestingly enough, in 2004, when Republican control of Congress was assured, few Republicans were advocating a vote for John Kerry in order to prevent the dreaded one-party rule.
ESAD, Texaschilibean.
verasun files chapter 11.
i've never understood why people think ethanol is the answer. given the amount of energy it takes to grow and process corn, imported foreign products to make fertilizer, etc., it's always seemed like a farm industrial complex boondoggle to me.
which is not to say that there aren't other biofuel alternatives that could be made to work...
blerb | 11.01.08 - 11:23 am | #
sorry, blerb.
chidy is right. nancy has been a failure and a disappointment. and harry has been even worse.
better than tom delay is not good enough.
CNN now on top of the 'Obama aunt story' with Inappropriately Laughing Black Anchor.
Said Obama campaign won't comment and they can't independently confirm the story.
Okay then.
Barack Obama's aunt, a Kenyan woman who has been quietly living in public housing in Boston, is in the United States illegally after an immigration judge rejected her request for asylum four years ago, The Associated Press has learned.
ZOMG!!ONEHUNDREDELEVEN!!11 NOVEMBER SURPRISE...ROVE'S A GENIUS!!!!
The Family Circus was never funny.
plantsman
True, but the sundaes at the Sugar Bowl are wonderful!
I live on the 'Eastern Shore'.
Dubbed the 'Shithouse Side of Maryland' by William Donald Sheaffer.
billy b |
Between Perdue, Tyson and the other chicken processors it always smells kinda like rancid chicken fat.
.
I will make it stop. I will take control, suspend the election and declare martial law.
Don't forget Vicky Iseman!
Any of you folks had to deal with Paul Dorr?
He's a racist pig that runs around the country saying that inner-city tax levies for schools hate white people. He's a sick fuck that really needs to be stopped.
AndyMN
People like that make me think that re-education camps aren't such a bad idea after all.
He needs help.
The Sugar Bowl! Again you have jogged my memory!
Between Perdue, Tyson and the other chicken processors it always smells kinda like rancid chicken fat.
Hardly.
dibs on the catalina wine snorg tee chick...
The Family Circus was never funny.
Of course, it wasn't. But as Gromit noted, it's perfect fodder or the Comics Curmudgeon.
The Family Circus was never funny.
plantsman
C'mon? NotMe? He's a common scapegoat for code bugs where I work. Although now that we have a better source control system, NotMe screws up a lot less code.
Hey, I voted!
Why isn't it over now?
Do you know what's really, really disturbing? Dolly from the Family Circus dressed up as Sarah Palin for Halloween!
AndyMN
CC on that panel:
"Yes, Dolly is dressed as … exactly who you think she’s dressed as. At least Jeffy isn’t going as Obama, in blackface.
Meanwhile, it took me took some serious staring and contemplation to realize that Billy is supposed to be the popular Iron Man character, with his mask pushed up on top of his head (presumably so we’d know that he was really Billy, and not Robert Downey, Jr., come to score some dope from the Keane Kids). For the longest time I thought that he was wearing a Kangol hat, and he was supposed to be some guy in a Kangol hat who’s been splattered by red paint."
http://joshreads.com/
ZOMG!!ONEHUNDREDELEVEN!!11 NOVEMBER SURPRISE...ROVE'S A GENIUS!!!!
AndyMN | Homepage | 11.01.08 - 11:25 am | #
i still don't know what the story is supposed to mean about obama. i mean, i know it was released to in some way hurt him, because there haven't been any stories released about the other 10 million immigrants in the same situation, but i don't get what the reflection is. or, more reasonably, i don't know what obama is supposed to have done about it.
again, blerb: am i running for office? no. so you can save the lectures about my many shortcomings as a politician.
nanci and hairy both bragged (to me, personally) about their ability to 'work the system' and their expertise at getting things done and making the rules work for them. you know what i care about? results. and what do they have to show for my support of them in 06? the bailout bill, a tanking economy, no meaningful republican indictments, endless war, afghanistan out of control, etc.
like i said: feel free to defend their 'accomplishments.' or just keep bashing me, unelected poor nobody who never made any of the claims they have.
Personally, I'd prefer industrial chicken producers to hog lagoons, given the opportunity to choose.
DALLAS (AP) — Northern Texas has been getting more rare earth tremors, one day after several minor earthquakes made Halloween memorable for some people in the area.
Two almost simultaneous aftershocks were centered beneath Grand Prairie and Irving just before 7 a.m. Saturday. The U.S. Geological Survey says the Grand Prairie quake measured 2.5 magnitude and the Irving quake came in at 2.7.
Saturday's tremors between Dallas and Fort Worth were in the same general areas as on Friday, when tremors of magnitude 2.5 set off car alarms. Switchboards for 911 systems lit up with calls from people near the quakes' epicenters but no damage was reported.
True, but the sundaes at the Sugar Bowl are wonderful!
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian
I love that song.
Spanky and Our Gang
TexasChiliFart still belching that McCain is going to pull it out today?
Has anyone ever asked why those Palin kids are never in school?
Or doesn't the Maverick Mom believe in education, either.
Ah, yes:
http://www.snorgtees.com/images/
...F_Fullpic_1.jpg
Andy Tanenbaum also says Hulk's career is "finished". Begich leads, 58-36.
Damn, if we get rid of Stevens and Dole, I may break out the 18 year old Highland Park...
and what do they have to show for my support of them in 06?
you forgot the minimum wage increase - $6.25/hour! poverty has been defeated!
it's always seemed like a farm industrial complex boondoggle to me.
You say that like it's a bug instead of a feature.
I agree with ChiDy, there was no need for Nancy to give the administration the all clear signal and refuse to consider motions and actions from the majority that are in order. A hearing on Impeachment is just that, a hearing. There is nothing, and should be nothing, to suggest that a hearing must never be called unless the outcome of the vote is certain and known in advance.
i still don't know what the story is supposed to mean about obama.
The poor lady was refused asylum and is scheduled to be sent back to Kenya where it's quite likely that bad things are going to happen to her. It says more bad things about our government, who refuses to allow her a safe haven, and illegally leaks confidential information.
Ew, McCain "pulling it out"? Don't even entertain the thought!
Why isn't it over now?
Rmj, Joe the Theologist
you still have phone calls to make.
What Atrios needs is a calming mantra,
OBAMA! OBAMA! OBAMA! OBAMA! OBAMA! ...
Just keep chanting it for the next 84 hours.
i don't know what obama is supposed to have done about it.
Especially when one considers McSpain throwing his first wife off for the trollop. Or the trollop's half-sister.
TexasChiliFart still belching that McCain is going to pull it out today?
ZuZu's Petals
John McCain can whip it out but can he get it up?
I don't think so.
i don't know what obama is supposed to have done about it.
That's the thing. He has nothing to do with it except being related to her. But that's enough for these frauds in the media and on the right.
It's a stupid, stupid story that reasonably sane people won't give two shits about once they get into the voting booth.
TexasChiliFart still belching that McCain is going to pull it out today?
ZuZu's Petals
He's been flogging the "vote McCain as a check on a Democrat [sic] Congress" bullshit for weeks. One-party rule is only okay if the party happens to be the GOP.
Alex Witless whoring for McStain.
After talking about the economic meltdown, she asks "Isn't the election of a repuke better for business?"
i don't know what obama is supposed to have done about it.
dirk gently, sociopathetic | Homepage | 11.01.08 - 11:28 am | #
double narrative. illegal alien angle and obama as a very bad man for not helping out his elderly aunt.
McCain is going to pull it out today?
Eeeeew. Even among 70+ women, that's not gonna help him.
TexasChiliFart still belching that McCain is going to pull it out today?
ZuZu's Petals
He's pathetic.
It says more bad things about our government - Mark B.
Shorter Mark B.: 'Thuglicans.
The Gathering Storm is a fabulous movie.
you still have phone calls to make.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
Everybody I talk politics with is here. Politically, I'm a leper in my social circles. Although most of the have no idea how radical my politics are.
That, or they're already voting anyway.
After talking about the economic meltdown, she asks "Isn't the election of a repuke better for business?"
JT
Where has this twit been for the past eight years?
McCain is going to pull it out today?
He would if he could remember where it was.
Eeeeew. Even among 70+ women, that's not gonna help him.
Gromit
They'd point and giggle.
McCain is going to pull it out today
"Here come those tears again." -- Jackson Browne
go to a phone bank. they are everywhere. these three days are nerve wracking if you are waiting.
DO SOMETHING AND MAKE IT HAPPEN.
or go to neighbor to neighbor (N2N) and make calls.
McCain is going to pull it out today?
Do his arms reach that far?
double narrative. illegal alien angle and obama as a very bad man for not helping out his elderly aunt.
fokowi t minus 3
Damned either way. Had he intervened (pulled strings) or done nothing (phony family values) he would be labeled negatively.
I believe the case is under appeal.
.
Why is Lindsey Graham still slobbering over McCain?
Where has this twit been for the past eight years?
Terry C - Obama/Biden 08
She's been busy cultivating the Lady Godiva look.
I hear'd Bush was gonna join a sorority in Uruguay as a cheerleader
They got a pitcher of his try-outs circulatin' for anyone that wants to see him
hahaha
i don't know what obama is supposed to have done about it.
dirk gently, sociopathetic | Homepage | 11.01.08 - 11:28 am | #
double narrative. illegal alien angle and obama as a very bad man for not helping out his elderly aunt.
fokowi t minus 3 | Homepage | 11.01.08 - 11:31 am | #
So does this mean that Bristol the slut is Sarah's fault?
McCain is going to pull it out today?
Do his arms reach that far?
Terry C - Obama/Biden 08
i hear he's employed a plumber for just such purpose.
This may be old new, but I was listening to batshit insane Laura Ingraham's show yesterday, and she had this Tammy Bruce woman filling in.
Ever hear her?
Completely unhinged wingnut -- I seriously thought she was going to have a breakdown on the air. Cackling insanely at inappropriate moments, spewing torrential illogic...it was incredible. She made Ingraham sound like Ariel Durant....
I believe the case is under appeal.
.
It's just me again
Then she hasn't been convicted yet, and she's not "illegal."
Right, Ted?
Someone's actually defending La Pelosi?
That's pretty fucking clueless...
Lindsey Graham for Secretary of the Closet!
After talking about the economic meltdown, she asks "Isn't the election of a repuke better for business?"
JT
It's better if your salary is determined by corporate compensation boards.
.
Why is Lindsey Graham still slobbering over McCain?
'Cause he's dumber than dirt and shameless to boot?
David Sedaris makes a funny:
I don’t know that it was always this way, but, for as long as I can remember, just as we move into the final weeks of the Presidential campaign the focus shifts to the undecided voters. “Who are they?” the news anchors ask. “And how might they determine the outcome of this election?”
Then you’ll see this man or woman— someone, I always think, who looks very happy to be on TV. “Well, Charlie,” they say, “I’ve gone back and forth on the issues and whatnot, but I just can’t seem to make up my mind!” Some insist that there’s very little difference between candidate A and candidate B. Others claim that they’re with A on defense and health care but are leaning toward B when it comes to the economy.
I look at these people and can’t quite believe that they exist. Are they professional actors? I wonder. Or are they simply laymen who want a lot of attention?
To put them in perspective, I think of being on an airplane. The flight attendant comes down the aisle with her food cart and, eventually, parks it beside my seat. “Can I interest you in the chicken?” she asks. “Or would you prefer the platter of shit with bits of broken glass in it?”
To be undecided in this election is to pause for a moment and then ask how the chicken is cooked.
The poor lady was refused asylum and is scheduled to be sent back to Kenya where it's quite likely that bad things are going to happen to her.
yeah, but my point is that there is no positive thing obama can do about an individual case. if he helps her, he is pulling strings (using his awesome powers of celebrity) to help his own family members. if he does nothing, he's ignoring his family. if he helps to get her deported faster, he's just mean. he has no choice, so how does her situation in any way illuminate his candidacy?
just like mccain being "tested" when he was ordered to go on standby in the cockpit of his plane. what was the test? whether he would obey or disobey the standby order? whether he would desert? he wasn't even ordered into action - there was no choice, so no test, so it has no meaning.
Has anyone ever asked why those Palin kids are never in school?
Or doesn't the Maverick Mom believe in education, either.
that one, fellow prisoner
Why do they need education?
They can all be married off at 17 or 18.
Fractal joke on Wait, Wait
Completely unhinged wingnut -- I seriously thought she was going to have a breakdown on the air. Cackling insanely at inappropriate moments, spewing torrential illogic...it was incredible. She made Ingraham sound like Ariel Durant....
Do they live together?
Completely unhinged wingnut -- I seriously thought she was going to have a breakdown on the air. Cackling insanely at inappropriate moments, spewing torrential illogic...it was incredible.
What does it say about the degraded state of our culture that it pays handsomely to regularly feature raving lunatics on our public airwaves?
Fractal joke on Wait, Wait
Gromit
So, it was a virtual joke that looked real?
Obama's half-auntie is the October surprise?
Completely unhinged wingnut -- I seriously thought she was going to have a breakdown on the air. Cackling insanely at inappropriate moments, spewing torrential illogic...it was incredible. She made Ingraham sound like Ariel Durant....
steve hüssein® simels
Why do I feel as though the right has the market cornered on insane women?
double narrative. illegal alien angle and obama as a very bad man for not helping out his elderly aunt.
fokowi t minus 3
Damned either way. Had he intervened (pulled strings) or done nothing (phony family values) he would be labeled negatively.
I believe the case is under appeal.
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It's just me again
What could he do that wasn't inappropriate or possibly illegal and appearing to get special favors?
I think there is an upside narrative as well. He's clean and ethical. People who are anti-immigrant weren't going to vote for him anyway. Goose egg,
i still don't know what the story is supposed to mean about obama.
It's dog whistle stuff, really. If Obama is elected, you will be overrun with illegal african immigrants and he won't do anything about it.
Lindsay Graham is not gay. He just hasn't found the right woman yet.
He, Charlie Crist, and David Dreier often get together and discuss that problem.
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Completely unhinged wingnut -- I seriously thought she was going to have a breakdown on the air.
Seems to be a common thing among the right lately. Glenn Blechh and Limbaugh both were about to bust a blood vessel last week.
OTOH, Petzold is just vile and repugnant.
plantsman
Stupid, too.
She made Ingraham sound like Ariel Durant....
steve hüssein® simels
A coupla weeks under the Dayton OH sun has got to simels. Next time wear a hat.
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Obama's half-auntie is the October surprise?
noblejoanie
Did they forget to mention the vials of Ebola virus in her closet?
Obama's half-auntie is the October surprise?
noblejoanie
Considering how late we are into early voting, and how close we are to Tuesday, isn't the timing of this "surprise" a bit off?
Why do I feel as though the right has the market cornered on insane women?
Terry C - Obama/Biden 08
Natural selection.
like i said: feel free to defend their 'accomplishments.' or just keep bashing me, unelected poor nobody who never made any of the claims they have.
chicago dyke, leatherqueen
This is not about bashing you, it's about bashing your shockingly naive ideas about how to bring about change. I'm not defending their accomplishments. They are obviously precious few. But they are not collaborators. They were dealt a shitty hand, and if you can't see that, I think it's because you have a deeply distorted view of the American electorate and how it will react to things. Right now, on the eve of the election, the Republican brand is about as unpopular as it has been in my lifetime since Nixon resigned. I submit that if Pelosi and Reid had taken your approach, that would not be the case. Lots of Middle-American types who are now fed up with the Republicans and defecting would have instead snapped back into the fold in the face of an affront to their core identity values. And I'll repeat that it amazes me that you apparently don't understand that. I'll be perfectly happy to see Pelosi and Reid get replaced by somebody a bit more left-leaning now, but I'll not spew infantile rage at them for not single-handedly healing the American psyche. That is not a job that would have been accomplished by impeaching Bush or any other thing they might have done.
>i>It's dog whistle stuff, really. If Obama is elected, you will be overrun with illegal african immigrants and he won't do anything about it.
Finny
Don't forget, they're BLACK and MUSLIMS, too. Remember how they blew up our embassy in Tanzania?
It's dog whistle stuff, really. If Obama is elected, you will be overrun with illegal african immigrants and he won't do anything about it.
Finny | 11.01.08 - 11:37 am | #
and, we have a winner.
Especially when one considers McSpain throwing his first wife off for the trollop. Or the trollop's half-sister.
half sister?
(blow up bush doll with huggy arms and sucker lips?)
"The Right Woman", or man for that matter, would run from Lindsey as fast as he or she could.
my point is that there is no positive thing obama can do about an individual case--dirk gently
I agree with you. I was simply pointing out that this case stinks. It appears she was denied asylum just to create an issue for the election which could be leaked just before the votes were cast. But maybe I'm just being cynical.
Lindsay Graham is not gay. He just hasn't found the right sheep yet.
Fixed yer comment.
i've never understood why people think ethanol is the answer.
It's the anwer if the question is "will [project X] raise or lower corn prices?" and you come from a major corn-growing state.
I admit surprise that prices tanked as much as they did, albeit they did get ludicrously high last year. Everybody around here (w. TN) planted corn last year, lost their asses when the drought hit, and went back to cotton this time.
Smart ones planted a crop of winter hay in between.
She made Ingraham sound like Ariel Durant....
steve hüssein® simels
Ingraham fell in love with her teacher at age 13 and married him?
Why do I feel as though the right has the market cornered on insane women?
Terry C - Obama/Biden 08
Natural selection.
Al Haig
Inbreeding?
Wait - that explains our trolls.
Gas is < $2/gallon here now.
So have the Fundies started spinning themselves up about That One, The Nasty Muslim, making his daughters participate in secret Satanic Halloween rites as a Corpse Bride and Evil Fairy?
. I submit that if Pelosi and Reid had taken your approach, that would not be the case. Lots of Middle-American types who are now fed up with the Republicans and defecting would have instead snapped back into the fold in the face of an affront to their core identity values.
thank god our powder is still dry!
i submit that you are 100% wrong. the idea that the right thing to do was let things get even worse so that people would finally see how aweful the current administration was is cynical and dangerous, imho.
Also, it's November.
Gas is < $2/gallon here now.
AndyMN | Homepage | 11.01.08 - 11:41 am | #
$3.20 here
Still on the high side of $2.50 yesterday, hereabouts.
Glenn Blechh and Limbaugh both were about to bust a blood vessel last week.
I wish.
i've never understood why people think ethanol is the answer.
Dual purpose. You can drink it and drive it.
Sometimes alcohol is the answer
Snorg T
the idea that the right thing to do was let things get even worse so that people would finally see how aweful the current administration was
a.k.a. Naderism
It appears she was denied asylum just to create an issue for the election which could be leaked just before the votes were cast.
mmmm - not if it was denied in 2004. i doubt obama was perceived as a big enough threat to somehow subvert the courts over back then.
Mmm-mmm, Switchgrass Vodka!
Dual purpose. You can drink it and drive it.
Sometimes alcohol is the answer
"One for you, one for me. One for you, one for me."
-Homer Simpson
$2.399 is the cheapest I've seen in Twangtown.
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Gas is < $2/gallon here now.
AndyMN |
i hadn't bought gas in a while. when i did yesterday, it was $2.36/gal. do actuaries figure out for the oil companies, to the penny, how much they need to lower it to get how many votes?
i submit that you are 100% wrong. the idea that the right thing to do was let things get even worse so that people would finally see how aweful the current administration was is cynical and dangerous, imho.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
thank you.
I agree with you. I was simply pointing out that this case stinks. It appears she was denied asylum just to create an issue for the election which could be leaked just before the votes were cast. But maybe I'm just being cynical.
Mark B | Homepage | 11.01.08 - 11:39 am
You can never be too cynical with juvenile ratfuckers like Team GDumbya. These are teh guys who love to do things (like put Ted Kennedy's name on the no-fly list) just to piss off liberals.
i submit that you are 100% wrong. the idea that the right thing to do was let things get even worse so that people would finally see how aweful the current administration was is cynical and dangerous, imho.
dirk gently, sociopathetic | Homepage | 11.01.08 - 11:41 am | #
Indeed.
the idea that the right thing to do was let things get even worse so that people would finally see how aweful the current administration was
a.k.a. Naderism
heh.
mmmm - not if it was denied in 2004.
OK, I wasn't aware of the history of this particular case. The timing of it still seems fishy to me.
I agree with you.
...
Mark B | Homepage | 11.01.08 - 11:39 am | #
agree harder, or face my wrath.
Gay or straight, Lindsay Graham creeps me out.
So does Lieberman.
They both look at McStain like enamoured suitors.
CNN a once proud network is now a webcam with idiots.
I'm not defending their accomplishments.
Yes, you are.
But they are not collaborators.
Yes, they are.
As usual for a Democratic administration, the real problems aren't going to come from the "other side," but from the usual assortment of hand-wringing moderate capitulators...
$2.89 here in the Valley near me Thursday -- the last time I got gas.
You can never be too cynical with juvenile ratfuckers like Team GDumbya. These are teh guys who love to do things (like put Ted Kennedy's name on the no-fly list) just to piss off liberals.
Tom - 大肚腩
Essentially, College Republicans have run the country for the past 8 years.
These are teh guys who love to do things (like put Ted Kennedy's name on the no-fly list) just to piss off liberals.
Tom - 大肚腩
Hey, Palin pretty much came right and out and said that she had Trig for that reason.
The only way to make it stop is to go through the three days.
Sorry, but we have no Palin solutions to this problem.
mmmm - not if it was denied in 2004.
He was running for the Senate in 2004, it's possible that the Bush administration had their eye on him in relation to his Senate campaign then.
i hadn't bought gas in a while. when i did yesterday, it was $2.36/gal. do actuaries figure out for the oil companies, to the penny, how much they need to lower it to get how many votes?
I thought it was Michelle Bachmann's magic powers that did it.
agree harder, or face my wrath.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
all hail his majesty, the wonderful dirk!
Sorry - slanties, not linkies...
OK, I wasn't aware of the history of this particular case. The timing of it still seems fishy to me.
Mark B
the timing of the release of the story is certainly suspicious. more than suspicious, obvious.
but really, it is a non story. she isn't in hiding, the feds know where she is, it is a situation that as far as i can see is playing out in the same way as the other 10million similar situations, nothing to see here, move along.
the usual assortment of hand-wringing moderate capitulators...
Too long for a band name?
You're right about the looks they give McCain, Terry C.
CNN a once proud network is now a webcam with idiots.
That's exactly the case, cot.
Hilariously stated, I might add.
As usual for a Democratic administration, the real problems aren't going to come from the "other side," but from the usual assortment of hand-wringing moderate capitulators...
dave™© | Homepage | 11.01.08 - 11:45 am | #M
Said it before and I'll say it again --
Obama's victory notwithstanding, very little will change unless we can mount well-financed left-wing challenges to every goddamn DLC Dem.
Starting with the two senators from New York. IMHO.
Essentially, College Republicans and Dean Wormer have run the country for the past 8 years.
Buzz Bomb
Can't forget the brains of the operation.
Lots of Middle-American types who are now fed up with the Republicans and defecting would have instead snapped back into the fold in the face of an affront to their core identity values.
And isn't it time we threw these braindead motherfuckers over the side at last? Or are we going to continue to suck their brain-dead dicks for another four years for some goddam reason?
You're right about the looks they give McCain, Terry C.
plantsman
It's just creepy.
CNN a once proud network is now a webcam with idiots.
remmeber professional freelance news photojournalists?
ah, good times. good times.
infantile rage. right.
look, blerb, it's not that i don't understand how things are done. it's that i can contrast what the democrats manage to accomplish with what republicans have. isn't it interesting, how majority or minority, republicans manage to get their way on so many of their pet issues, while dems go on and on about not having enough votes, blah, blah.
i am not one who believes the SCLM narrative that this is a 'conservative' nation. indeed, last night was very informative for me. a bunch of white, middle and upperclass older folks at the party, gushing enthusiastically about a black presidential candidate and things like universal health care and the environment...supposedly these people are either freaky SF leftists or nonexistant, and yet i found myself surrounded by them. if the country doesn't vote more to the left more often, a lot of times, it's because no one speaks to their concerns. that's my belief.
a while back, i posted on a bill that nanci was able to kill, using a procedural trick, no majority voting needed. i found it odd that she could do so, and at the same time go on and on about the inevitability of war funding and fisa and suchlike. don't get me started on her letting people like rove give the finger to congressional subpeonas. yes, i'm an infant having a rage. but the point is that the failures of the current crop of dems have a terrible price, one that we've only just begun to pay. making excuses about process and moderation isn't going to change that.
Can someone do something about Peter King?
webcam... idiots.
Culture of TrÜth
band name.
From Digby...
Then you’ll see this man or woman— someone, I always think, who looks very happy to be on TV. “Well, Charlie,” they say, “I’ve gone back and forth on the issues and whatnot, but I just can’t seem to make up my mind!” Some insist that there’s very little difference between candidate A and candidate B. Others claim that they’re with A on defense and health care but are leaning toward B when it comes to the economy.
I look at these people and can’t quite believe that they exist. Are they professional actors? I wonder. Or are they simply laymen who want a lot of attention?
To put them in perspective, I think of being on an airplane. The flight attendant comes down the aisle with her food cart and, eventually, parks it beside my seat. “Can I interest you in the chicken?” she asks. “Or would you prefer the platter of shit with bits of broken glass in it?”
To be undecided in this election is to pause for a moment and then ask how the chicken is cooked.
the usual assortment of hand-wringing moderate capitulators...
Too long for a band name?
Al Haig | 11.01.08 - 11:46 am | #
It's not as catchy as "Courtesy Flush"
the idea that the right thing to do was let things get even worse so that people would finally see how aweful the current administration was
a.k.a. Naderism
Nach Hitler, uns.
The slogan of the German Communist Party.
agree harder, or face my wrath.
If agreement last longer than 4 hours, call a physician.
CNN a once proud network is now a webcam with idiots.
Boy, that IReport thing was just inspired journalism, wasn't it?
But it's undoubtedly enabled them to cut costs, so I guess they'll stick with it.
Starting with the two senators from New York. IMHO.
steve hüssein® simels
You never stop with the Clinton hatred, do you?
nothing to see here, move along.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
Unless you live in the parallel universe that is FOXNews.
http://www.foxnews.com/
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I'll be perfectly happy to see Pelosi and Reid get replaced by somebody a bit more left-leaning now, but I'll not spew infantile rage at them for not single-handedly healing the American psyche
Bullshit on stilts.
The Dems were elected in 06 to end the fricking war and take Bush on full bore. Guess who didn't get the message?
Fuck Pelosi and Reid with the proverbial rusty chainsaw.
I was really glad that I had not read my first "undecided" or "persuadable" voter story until yesterday! I seem to remember them cropping up much earlier in the season the last time around.
Suggests to me that they have less relevance this time.
Essentially, College Republicans have run the country for the past 8 years.
Buzz Bomb | 11.01.08 - 11:45 am
The commenters at Protein DimOnes have run the country for the past 8 years led by Mr "I've failed at everything I've done including my fundraisers" Paste Eater.
Hey, Palin pretty much came right and out and said that she had Trig for that reason.
Terry C - Obama/Biden 08
i thought it was so she could get a minivan
What you ought to know about those investment 'bundles' -
It's not all about subprime mortgages.
at http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com/
Can someone do something about Peter King?
I recommend a hearty session of waterboarding.
It's just like swimming, after all.
Starting with the two senators from New York. IMHO.
steve hüssein® simels
You never stop with the Clinton hatred, do you?
Terry C - Obama/Biden 08 |
Clinton for teh Supreme Court!
If for no reason other than to watch Hannity's head explode.
You never stop with the Clinton hatred, do you?
Terry C - Obama/Biden 08 | Homepage | 11.01.08 - 11:48 am | #
I would have been perfectly happy with her as veep.
Said so many times.
But the DLC wing of the party has to go. It's as simple as that.
Hillary Clinton will be a tremendous asset and force for change in the Senate for years to come. She will provide true leadership on the issues that matter to most Americans.
Can someone do something about Peter King?
I recommend a hearty session of waterboarding.
It's just like swimming, after all.
Pere Ubu
I'd like to give Michael Savage that treatment.
Little bastard always looks as though he could use a bath.
Alas, Reid and Pelosi aren't going anywhere. We must work to marginalize them, though.
Go, Franken!
Cheney is on CSpan now. If it was in its right mind, my teebee would implode. it's been corrupted.
like my sitemeter. Which is saying I got no hits the past two day.
the point is that the failures of the current crop of dems have a terrible price, one that we've only just begun to pay. making excuses about process and moderation isn't going to change that.
chicago dyke, leatherqueen | Homepage | 11.01.08 - 11:47 am | #
Uh, yeah, that pretty much sums it up.
They actually had a webcam just now outside a polling station.
Now they're showing a Palin rally.
Back to webcam.
The case could have been made that Bush's adherence to the unitary executive theory, his assertion of the right to violate federal law as clearly written without check or balance when, in his sole judgment, he thought it necessary, his actual violations of federal law, and his use of signing statements to modify laws as drafted all struck at Congressional prerogatives enshrined in history, the Constitution, and Supreme Court decisions. This case, seems to me, should have been made, and, if necessary, he should have been impeached for it.
That congress didn't fight this is an indictment, principally, alas, of the Republicans in the congress. Pelosi and Reid were faced with the political problem of making what should have been an utterly non-partisan case in an environment where only Democrats would make it. An impeachment of Bush would have been portrayed as nothing more nor less than a partisan exercise along the lines of, and in retribution for, the Clinton impeachment, rather than a defense of the very basis of this country's system of government. The Republican embrace of Bush was total, and a disgrace.
I disagreed with them, but I understand their position.
a dozen years ago or so, every grain elevator around had corn piled up on the ground as they couldn't store it all. corn was $1.70/bu. the original ethanol model was simply to raise corn prices $.25/bu in an attempt to try to help keep the folks on the farm and provided small town jobs.
now that commodity prices are back up, there's really no need for them from a purely 'original intent' perspective. of course, now it's portrayed as a tool to help fight global warming.
take it or leave it i say. it's such a small part of the big picture now it doesn't matter much.
we still have the most stable secure food system on the planet. it's probably the only thing the wingers didn't fuck up while they were in power, although there's probably some storm brewing that won't show until after the election.
I understand why Pelosi said "impeachment is off the table". Short term sensible, long term disastrous.
Impeachment would have done very bad things to the Democrats immediately. But down the road we are going to have an administration that for sheer corruption and evil is going to make Bush II look like FDR. And no one will (metaphorically) pull the trigger then.
The only way to put an end to the imperial governance of swine like Bush and Cheney is to let them have it: jail, loss of pension, bankruptcy, the whole package. Destroy them utterly as politicians and as free men. Let the next wise guy who thinks the VP is a fourth branch of government think twice about spending his sunset years making little ones out of big ones, behind bars.
thought it was so she could get a minivan
dirk gently, sociopathetic
The first time I saw that commercial, I thought "WTF?"
Reid and Pelosi - Dry powder. Holy shit that powder is dry. Especially Reid. Barney Fife of politics.
Glenn Blechh and Limbaugh both were about to bust a blood vessel last week.
I wish.
Terry C
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I have to confess to rejoicing as each one falls
they'll be remembered as the worst of the worst in our society during their tenure and that's saying a lot when you watch some of the crap that's coming down the pike
I recommend a hearty session of waterboarding.
It's just like swimming, after all.
Pere Ubu
you forgetting it's just like hazing? a bit of fun and all that.
anyway, i can't spell, blerb is one of the good guys even if we disagree, and it's time for me to hit the gardens. have a good one, y'all.
But the DLC wing of the party has to go. It's as simple as that.
steve hüssein® simels
So true. Obama has shown that we don't need Pandercrats to run against well financed Republican candidates.
Pure cup of Kona to ProfW.
but the point is that the failures of the current crop of dems have a terrible price, one that we've only just begun to pay. making excuses about process and moderation isn't going to change that.
chicago dyke, leatherqueen | Homepage | 11.01.08 - 11:47 am | #
Well, most of us know they suck. Pelosi is an illuminating case because not only is she a representative from a very liberal district in SF, but she was a founding member of the Progressive Caucus. So the first question is why her constituents remain happy with her?
Cheney is on CSpan now. If it was in its right mind, my teebee would implode.
In a just world, he would implode.
So the first question is why her constituents remain happy with her?
rootless-e, apikorous | 11.01.08 - 11:54 am | #
Good taste in clothes.
Did anyone else see Ferraro on NOW last night?
It was infuriating.
Pure cup of Kona to ProfW.
David Derbes, hopeful | 11.01.08 - 11:54 am
Jamaica Blue Mountain !
Clinton for teh Supreme Court!
If for no reason other than to watch Hannity's head explode.
that one, fellow prisoner
Nah, Obama needs someone like Putney Swope in the Supreme Court.
(For the older farts here!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a...h?
v=aWoFqbYBo6M
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In a just world, he would implode.
Terry C - Obama/Biden 08
I was hoping for that as a side effect.
ChiDyke, you will like my economics lesson today.
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/
Mccains chances of winning down to 2.8%.
Nate is trying to make us feel better.
Did anyone else see Ferraro on NOW last night?
It was infuriating.
AndyMN
Any respect I ever had for her is long gone.
Well, most of us know they suck. Pelosi is an illuminating case because not only is she a representative from a very liberal district in SF, but she was a founding member of the Progressive Caucus. So the first question is why her constituents remain happy with her?
rootless-e, apikorous
Her district is SF. Do you live in SF?
I welcome the friendly amendment of my distinguished colleague Gilly G.
Nah, Obama needs someone like Putney Swope in the Supreme Court.
(For the older farts here!)
That's a great film.
Tomorrow, more darkness.
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Nah, Obama needs someone like Putney Swope in the Supreme Court.
"Putney says the Borman Six Girl is got-to-have-soul!"
Nate is trying to make us feel better.
Nate's been spot fucking on this election.
I really like that site.
Bullshit on stilts.
Yep.
I understand why Pelosi said "impeachment is off the table". Short term sensible, long term disastrous.
Nope. The problem with Pelosi's capitulation was, it would have been perfectly fine to say "impeachment is off the table" if she had added "however, there are serious charges and issues here, and they deserve a full investigation" and then FOLLOWED UP ON THAT.
THAT is what the '06 Dems were elected to do. And as far as "collaboration" goes, it is now pretty obvious one of the main reasons Pelosi doesn't want any sort of investigation is her direct involvement in approval of torture and the shredding of the constitution.
Did anyone else see Ferraro on NOW last night?
It was infuriating.
No and why?
That's a great film.
Terry C - Obama/Biden 08 | Homepage | 11.01.08 - 11:57 am | #
I don't want to rock the boat.
I will be very happy to see McCain's chances of winning expressed in negative exponents, e.g. 10^-100.
There are very conservative neighborhoods in SF. Michael Savage lives there. Or at least he used to. Might be Sausalito now.
Did anyone else see Ferraro on NOW last night?
It was infuriating.
AndyMN
we get NOW on Sunday, but Bill Moyers' Journal had on guests that were giving right wing talking points. I was really saddened.
That's a great film.
Terry C - Obama/Biden 08 | Homepage | 11.01.08 - 11:57 am | #
I actually saw it in a theater with an audience full of advertising people.
Needless to say, they thought it was hilarious...
No and why?
Here.
Oh, no -
NOW McCain has the anti-choice nuts doing ads for him.
What's next - they put the Duggars on?
I understand why Pelosi said "impeachment is off the table". Short term sensible, long term disastrous.
I don't think it was short term sensible. Starting a negotiation with sheer capitulation to unyielding corrupt politicians like Cheney and Bush was either idiotic or corrupt.
"We're not gonna rock the boat, we're gonna sink the f*'in boat!"
Michael Savage is high on my list of people I would NOT want for a neighbor.
it is now pretty obvious one of the main reasons Pelosi doesn't want any sort of investigation is her direct involvement in approval of torture and the shredding of the constitution.
dave™© | Homepage | 11.01.08 - 11:58 am | #
Oooh, nuance.
When Pelosi told an interviewer that making the Republicans take ownership of the war in Iraq was one of her accomplishments, she pretty much admitted to being a spineless moron.
Michael Savage is high on my list of those I'm ashamed to include in my species...
Oooh, nuance.
Maybe I'll write a play! 
I always kind of thought that one reason they didn't try impeachment was because they were afraid this mob would declare martial law and really create absolute hell.
With the DOJ totally corrupted with politicization, any charges, and investigation, has to take place after it has been turned inside out and reformed. Otherwise the Dems would have to set up a separate police force and court system, a really very bad choice.
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In fact, when you think about it, SF is a city like most other big cities in the US. It's no more the caricature the right wing uses to scare the fly over red states than any other. urban areas are all pretty liberal but they aren't hotbeds of communist radicalism.
So anyone else see this "scary letter from the future" Dobson's group is sending around?
Personally, I hope every dire "prediction" comes true...
Clinton for teh Supreme Court!
If you want to know what kinds of justices will be recommended by Barack, you need to review his selections for the editorial board of the Harvard Law Review when he was in charge.
We should expect nothing less than the finest legal minds to be considered. I love Hillary, she is not qualified to sit on the Court.
In fact, when you think about it, SF is a city like most other big cities in the US. It's no more the caricature the right wing uses to scare the fly over red states than any other. urban areas are all pretty liberal but they aren't hotbeds of communist radicalism.
Al Haig | 11.01.08 - 12:01 pm | #
Sure, but the question remains of why a liberal district that has elected a supposedly progressive representative for years, does not rebel against Pelosi's capitulationism. The answer, I think is that the structure of US politics is enormously incumbent friendly - the local benefits of a powerful congressperson outweigh the negative effects of her national policies.
Michael Savage is high on my list of those I'm ashamed to include in my species...
ProfWombat
I think I canvassed his home in Pacific heights in the 80's. I'm certain it was him. He's insane. He answered the door with a .38 in the pocket of his seersucker pants yelling and screaming. True srory.
Caribou Barbie is braying her lies on both CNN and MSNBC.
I love Hillary, she is not qualified to sit on the Court.
Shared Humanity
As I've said, with Senator Kennedy's situation being as it is, we'll need Hillary and John Kerry in the Senate.
Saracuda on MSNBC now. She's such a fucking halfwit. Joe the "Plumber"? Thank god we win this one on Tuesday.
My only problem with Hillary Clinton on the Court is her age. I'd like liberal justices in their forties and fifties, who'll serve for decades.
My other problem with her on the Court is that she'll be more effective in the Senate.
Such as Earl Warren were not great legal minds.
I think Hillary has a fine legal mind and besides that she has great and decent instincts.
Caribou Barbie is braying her lies on both CNN and MSNBC.
JT
Braying is the accurate term.
She should only gargle with broken glass.
Just take a look at the median family income in SF and do the math. And ask Connecticut why they elected Joe Lieberman, FFS, who is far worse in every way.
hey, if al haig rang my door, i'd want to have a .38 and would probably yell and scream also.
savage is still scum, of course.
Joe the "Plumber"?
Penis with ears.
My daughter swears he reminds of her of Bernie Kerik without the mustache.
My other problem with her on the Court is that she'll be more effective in the Senate.
majority leader.
say good night, harry.
I think I canvassed his home in Pacific heights in the 80's. I'm certain it was him. He's insane. He answered the door with a .38 in the pocket of his seersucker pants yelling and screaming. True srory.
Al Haig
Oh, I believe it.
Full tilt asshole, that one.
We should expect nothing less than the finest legal minds to be considered. I love Hillary, she is not qualified to sit on the Court.
Shared Humanity
In fact, Sen. Clinton is an unbelievably good lawyer, twenty-five years ago one of the top hundred in the country. My mother's farm was represented by the Rose Law Firm in Little Rock (though not by Hillary herself).
I do not know that she has ever been a judge, but many superlative justices have been formerly governors, senators and other non-judicial figures.
The position requires a first rate mind, and a deep understanding of the law. I have no doubt Senator Clinton has those attributes.
All that said, her métier may be lie with the Senate.
My favorite US Justice of all time, William Douglas, was not famous for his deep legal skills. The purpose of the court is to defend the constitution in the courts, not to produce scholarly works.
Her district is a part of SF.
majority leader.
She's still the Junior Senator from NY.
Nah. Gonna. Happen.
palin is fucking nuts.
Clinton for teh Supreme Court!
If for no reason other than to watch Hannity's head explode. - that one
I'll see your Hill and raise you a Bill. Double the explosive fun.
The answer, I think is that the structure of US politics is enormously incumbent friendly - the local benefits of a powerful congressperson outweigh the negative effects of her national policies.
rootless-e, apikorous |
There is that. There are other factors. one of the ones folks like us fail to recognize often is that compared to the majority of the population, we are what you'd call political junkies. We live and breath this stuff. Not everyone else is this "focused". Many of them might think we were a bit "obsessive". Personally, they'd be wrong and it is they who should be more involved but that's just life.
Has Hillary ever expressed the slightest interest in being a justice on the SCOTUS?
all she's missing now are the pompom's.
She's still the Junior Senator from NY.
Nah. Gonna. Happen.
AndyMN
Obama is the junior Senator from Illinois and he's going to be president of the United States.
NEVER say "never".
Scarah's got a mob rally in Florida; she looked like she might come when they screamed, "Drill, Baby, Drill!"
The Supremes presently include almost no one with experience in public life, as I understand. They are all very much in a bubble and show no tendency toward compassion. That inclines them to pro-business views.
The TX Supremes have overturned jury verdicts more than 80% of the time. They are being challenged by a dem slate, but this is not hopeful yet. At least we have Dallas. (All GoPerv incumbents lost in 2006)
palin is fucking nuts.
fokowi t minus 3 | Homepage | 11.01.08 - 12:07 pm | #
I went to a HUGE Halloween bash last night and only 1 Sarah Palin, wearing an Obama button!
Oh dear, they picked the wrong vote to flip. BWAHAHAHAHAH!
Penis with ears.
Not our local friend Michael Smerconish.
http://www.mastalk.com/
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I will be very happy to see McCain's chances of winning expressed in negative exponents, e.g. 10^-100.
Or, in longhand:
0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
01%
what's going to be ugly is the two.2 months after the election. how much lame duck rethug crime do we expect?
I'm not feeling good at all about W's involvement in this meeting to rework the world's economy after the election. He'll do nothing but slow things down and fuck things up. If the Europeans had any sense they would tell him the meeting was in New York then hold it in London. Sorry George.
McCain = Chaos
http://www.236.com/video/2008/
ge...haos_1_9927.php
Get. Your. War. On.
We should expect nothing less than the finest legal minds to be considered. I love Hillary, she is not qualified to sit on the Court.
Shared Humanity
If it gets her out of the Senate, I'm all for her on the Court.
Oh dear, they picked the wrong vote to flip. BWAHAHAHAHAH!
bo | 11.01.08 - 12:09 pm | #
Spectacular!
Pork Chop Boy looks a tad withered speaking on c-span. The blood of Muslim virgins must be hard to get in Laramie.
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The TX Supremes have overturned jury verdicts more than 80% of the time. They are being challenged by a dem slate, but this is not hopeful yet. At least we have Dallas. (All GoPerv incumbents lost in 2006)
Ruth | Homepage | 11.01.08 - 12:08 pm | #
The TX court holding that checks are not cash, in a functioning democracy, would have lead to immediate impeachment and jailing of the corrupt judges.
Gay or straight, Lindsay Graham creeps me out.
Gay, he creeps me out even more. I don't know what it is with far-right gay men but there are an odd number of them and they're uniformly evil.
I resent sharing a gender preference with them, a universe also.
Obama is the junior Senator from Illinois and he's going to be president of the United States.
There's a few Senators that have been there a little longer that might be looked at more for majority leader.
Besides, Congress still thinks it's 1994, and would think Clinton would be too polarizing. They ain't a bright bunch.
Oh dear, they picked the wrong vote to flip. BWAHAHAHAHAH!
bo
Oh, boy - someone who can afford to have a shitload of high-powered lawyers on their asses.
I didn't mean to imply that Hillary Clinton isn't a very bright woman with a superb grasp of the law. But she isn't a legal scholar. She doesn't have an extensive bibliography of serious studies of legal issues. I'd suggest that absence of such a scholarly record isn't a disqualification for Supreme Court appointment. I'd trust her instincts, and her clerks, to make good law based on decent principles.
Not all Supreme Court justices were legal scholars. The most prominent example, again, is probably Earl Warren, governor of California.
Me, too; Anthony.
Thanks, billy b, for the geek->person translation.
Make it stop indeed - Palin on CNN and Cheney on MSNBC.
Not our local friend Michael Smerconish.
http://www.mastalk.com/
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It's just me again
Even HE's for Obama.
The TX court holding that checks are not cash, in a functioning democracy, would have lead to immediate impeachment and jailing of the corrupt judges.
rootless-e, apikorous
Fienish laughter did accompany that verdict, didn't it?
blerb is one of the good guys even if we disagree
That's classy. I'm really glad to see that at least some regulars here are capable of making this distinction. A few aren't.
Has Hillary ever expressed the slightest interest in being a justice on the SCOTUS?
blerb
I was about to point that out. Junior, senior, that doesn't matter. She may very well be the next majority leader, but there's no chance she'll be on the court.
Oh shit..now she's quoting Lincoln.
She's such an asshole.
Her district is a part of SF.
plantsman
True, but that's all it is, and Treasure Island.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Ima..._District_8.png
With the DOJ totally corrupted with politicization, any charges, and investigation, has to take place after it has been turned inside out and reformed. Otherwise the Dems would have to set up a separate police force and court system, a really very bad choice.
Ruth | Homepage | 11.01.08 - 12:01 pm | #
I think this is a complete misread of where the Justice Department is. Over the past 8 years, Bush has done considerable damage to 4 major institutions.
State Department
Intelligence Community
Military
Justice Department
Each were damaged in the same way. Appointing political idealogues in leadership positions who then abused the career staff who have chafed under their ignorant leadership. Do not be surprised when the newly appointed competent and capable leadership of these institutions transform them into fully functioning entities.
With the Justice Department finally able to act, don't be surprised when the worst of the crimes of the last 8 years are prosecuted.
Make it stop indeed - Palin on CNN and Cheney on MSNBC.
A good arguement for DVD players.
palin is fucking nuts.
fokowi t minus 3
Oh, you don't know how badly I'm trying to restrain myself from riffing off of that one.
OK, those are Mccaindemea and they're not relly nuts.
Gotta run.
Later, folks.
GOBama!
Even HE's for Obama.
Terry C - Obama/Biden 08
I think Obama effectively shmoozed him by granting him an interview.
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Halloween Tally:
Doorbell rings: 3
Number of kids: 9
Number over age: 4
Yardsigns still in yard: 3 (100%)
Horror of the night: waking up to see Palin giving a speech on my tv box.
Obama's up by 18 in NJ.
Thanks, billy b, for the geek-person translation.
In that case, I would be the geek, DD.
Obama's up by 18 in NJ.
Terry C - Obama/Biden 08
(sigh) Why can't he close the deal?
think Obama effectively shmoozed him by granting him an interview.
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It's just me again
Well, Smerconish was NEVER really enthralled with the Iraq war.
With the Justice Department finally able to act, don't be surprised when the worst of the crimes of the last 8 years are prosecuted.
Shared Humanity
that is what I am hoping for. It isn't possible right now, but it will be, soon after Jan 21
I am not sure if an author of a law to crminalize flag burning is a good choice for the the Supreme Court... I can't even see it as masterful Senate politicking unless she was able to get some Republicans in close races to vote against it because of their Hillary hate reflex.
Oh shit..now she's quoting Lincoln.
She's such an asshole.
Nick Danger |
Just for laughs, what was the Lincoln quote?
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Is Obama's aunt the best they're going to come up with in order to try to torpedo his campaign? If they've got something more they're cutting it pretty close so I tend to think not.
palin at fl rally: we need wind, and solar... yay, solar. and god has blessed you here with all this sunlight. yay. yes, you have it. good for you guys.
[aneurysm]
OK, those are Mccaindemea and they're not relly nuts.
Anthony McCarthy
That bitch is crazy.
In that case, I would be the geek, DD.
billy b
Yeah, but you speak person. For me it's a second language...
That's classy. I'm really glad to see that at least some regulars here are capable of making this distinction. A few aren't.
Buzz Bomb
Infidel!
Is Obama's aunt the best they're going to come up with in order to try to torpedo his campaign? If they've got something more they're cutting it pretty close so I tend to think not.
Anthony McCarthy |
Palin's pregnant daughter and boyfriend getting married in a drive through Las Vegas wedding chapel might help!
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Infidel!
George Johnston
I prefer to think of myself as an apostate.
I think impeachment needs to happen in a calm time after the election--perhaps after June.
Bush's adherence to the unitary executive theory, his assertion of the right to violate federal law as clearly written without check or balance when, in his sole judgment, he thought it necessary, his actual violations of federal law, and his use of signing statements to modify laws as drafted all struck at Congressional prerogatives enshrined in history, the Constitution, and Supreme Court decisions.
from wombat
these are impeachable offenses and for the sake of the future and what is thought to be permissible we need to go on record that Bush violated the Constitution.
Diane posting on our winger Supremes' obstructing justice at http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com/
Is Obama's aunt the best they're going to come up with in order to try to torpedo his campaign?
I think they still have a kitchen sink.
Elena Kagan next S.C. justice.
Yeah, but you speak person. For me it's a second language...
Thank you.
You're fluent in at least two languages, my friend.
After arriving with McCain at the Nationwide Arena Hockey Stadium on board the "Straight Talk Express", Schwarzenegger delighted a raucous crowd of several thousands with some biting barbs about Obama's policies and physique.
Schwarzenegger, who organizes a bodybuilding competition in Columbus every year, said he wanted to invite Obama because "he needs to do something about those skinny legs. I'm going to make him do some squats."
"And then we're going to make him do some biceps curls to beef up those scrawny little arms," Schwarzenegger said, before his punchline: "But if he could only do something about putting some meat on his ideas."
http://
www.talkingpointsmemo.com...ks_obama_as.php
Don't mess with the kindergarden cop, baby.
I'm making some pesto, so I checked this recipe in Italian as translated by Google:
"La prima ricetta scritta del pesto che ci č giunta risale alla metŕ dell'800 e da allora, salvo sbrigative profanazioni nella tecnica d'esecuzione, non č cambiata."
"The first written recipe of pesto that we came back to the mid dell'800 and since then, except hasty desecration technology executive, has not changed."
Molto bene. Prego.
I think impeachment needs to happen in a calm time after the election--perhaps after June.
I don't think you can impeach an officeholder after he has left office.
front and center at the wapo:
Obama Relative in U.S. Illegally
Senator says he had no knowledge of aunt's status, believes that all appropriate laws be followed.
I still say Bush's pardon list signed before noon on the 20th of January will be an instant classic - of some sort or another.
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Let's see how long it takes gravatar to deliver my new image.
I prefer to think of myself as an apostate.
Buzz Bomb
WSJ -- One high-level Bush appointee who has yet to launch his job search said colleagues are alarmed by the weak job market. "They are getting a lot less than they expected," he said.
Education Secretary Margaret Spellings, for example, has signaled possible interest in leading a business, one knowledgeable person says. But a mid-sized industrial business seeking a CEO recently declined to consider her because of her lack of corporate experience, as well as her close ties to the president, that person says. Ms. Spellings has been advising President Bush on education issues since he was governor of Texas. A spokeswoman says Ms. Spellings intends to remain in education.
In 2001, Mr. Light said, officials departing the Clinton administration generally landed well. He cited Jacob "Jack" Lew, former head of the Office of Management and Budget, who is at Citigroup Inc.; Health and Human Services Secretary Donna Shalala, who became president at University of Miami; and Strobe Talbott, deputy secretary of state, and now president of the Brookings Institution.
Some Bush officials took senior business posts earlier this year. But not all lasted long. In July, Wachovia Corp. tapped Treasury Undersecretary Robert K. Steel as chief executive. But he has said he will have no "operating role" after Wells Fargo & Co. completes its acquisition of Wachovia.
I don't think you can impeach an officeholder after he has left office.
Al Haig
I beg to differ.
I still say Bush's pardon list signed before noon on the 20th of January will be an instant classic - of some sort or another.
$50 says Ted Stevens is on the list.
these are impeachable offenses and for the sake of the future and what is thought to be permissible we need to go on record that Bush violated the Constitution.
peterboy
Do you know how many CSA officials and army officers were tried for treason and war crimes after the Civil War?
funny that the dems aren't making anything of the black McCain's from the plantation owned by the great grands
http://www.bnd.com/living/story/...ory/
526421.html
McStain concession speech:
http://www.citypaper.net/article...n-
speech#posted
Do you know how many CSA officials and army officers were tried for treason and war crimes after the Civil War?
Al Haig
As I recall, Lincoln chose to forgive.
"And then we're going to make him do some biceps curls to beef up those scrawny little arms," Schwarzenegger said,
ahnuld can go fuck himself:
http://now.unfolded.ch/2008/10/2.../20/photo.3590/
Not all Supreme Court justices were legal scholars. The most prominent example, again, is probably Earl Warren, governor of California.
ProfWombat | 11.01.08 - 12:11 pm | #
I am only suggesting that, as a constitutional law professor, Obama will only consider the most capable legal scholars. He demonstrated this with his choices for the Harvard Review Editorial Board when he selected three members of the Federalist Society.
I still say Bush's pardon list signed before noon on the 20th of January will be an instant classic - of some sort or another
I think he will just publish the Republican phone directory.
Okay, off to the city, and thus off-line until much much later tonight.
Have fun in my stead, and if you can see your way to commenting over at Box Office -- theme: Great Female Ensemble Cast Movies --
http://boxoffice.com/blogs/steve...special-
les.php
I have it on good authority that God will give Toby a hernia.
Later!
Ruth | Homepage | 11.01.08 - 12:18 pm | #
Ruth, you're a fine writer.
rootless: I too loved Douglas, and still do, but, after studying the law, find William Brennan the more significant jurist. Far better than Douglas at forging consensus, and writing decisions which get followed later.
"And then we're going to make him do some biceps curls to beef up those scrawny little arms," Schwarzenegger said,
I'm pretty sure Barack could take him to the cleaners one on one with a basketball.
C-span2/BookTV, from March
Youth to Power: How Today's Young Voters Are Building Tomorrow's Progressive Majority
Author: Michael Connery
http://www.booktv.org/program.as...cs&
PlayMedia=No
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Many thanks, GillyG., it's caring about the subject that I believe matters. But maybe I'm not awful, anyway. (blushes)
Barack has been a pillar of confidence, cool, and level headedness this entire campaign. McCain represents desperation, low road politics and putting self and your own personal aspirations far in front of country. There is no limit to the depths John McCain won't sink to in an effort to win this election. He gave up country first a long time ago. Schwarzenegger, an alleged racist, who's been critical of Sarah Palin and John McCain, now is being utilized as McCain's saving grace. Politics are such a joke.
Jeebus. Schwartzenegger has been a far less heinous governor than I expected him to be. He's a social moderate and he seems genuinely to care about the job and his responsibility to the people of the state. Unlike most Repukes, he seems to want to use government to actually solve problems rather than just fuck shit up on purpose. But he's pissing me off with this shilling for McCain. I know he's a Repuke, but he's not up for re-election and he could just as easily sit this one out. He must want to run for Feinstein's Senate seat in 2010.
he wanted to invite Obama because "he needs to do something about those skinny legs. I'm going to make him do some squats."
You mean steroids, don't you, Gropenator?
So he can wind up having to have heart surgery like you did, asshole?
Thanks, but no thanks.
I still say Bush's pardon list signed before noon on the 20th of January will be an instant classic - of some sort or another.
He's gonna pardon Cheney on the 19th, resign, and then Cheney's gonna pardon him.
Barry from Alaska
check out that photo linked above. the original post noted he was on his way out to speak, took a sidestep and did 3 quick chin-ups. let's see that musclebound asshole do that.
"And then we're going to make him do some biceps curls to beef up those scrawny little arms," Schwarzenegger said,
Arnold, you're a 60+ year old man. I could walk the dog with your old ass.
If you want to talk about cute little arms, why didn't you mention McSpain's T. Rex appendages?
Barry, it looks like your Gov. may be about to answer for a few misuses of funds and power.
I still say Bush's pardon list signed before noon on the 20th of January will be an instant classic - of some sort or another.
You can't pardon someone who has not yet been indicted, charged or convicted of a crime and John will not be President to pardon Alberto after he is sentenced to a long prison term.
He demonstrated this with his choices for the Harvard Review Editorial Board when he selected three members of the Federalist Society.
Shared Humanity
Ack, is that supposed to make me feel better about having this election about the Supreme Court?
Buzzy, regarding Ahnuld:
Steroids make your testicles shrink.
"And then we're going to make him do some biceps curls to beef up those scrawny little arms," Schwarzenegger said,
Shallow mother fucker.
I think they still have a kitchen sink.
If they did, they'd have deployed it already. Anything released now won't have time to soak in and have a major impact, unless it's REALLY dramatic, like a major terrorist attack. And that wouldn't favor McCain. A lot of people have already voted.
I think Obama's 'illegal immigrant' half-aunt is their best shot now. It may have a minor effect, but I doubt it won't affect any voters besides those who already weren't going to vote for Obama. Now, they're not going to vote for Obama even harder, which will have exactly zero added effect.
Blame Palin at Your Own Risk
The recriminations begin early.
By Kathryn Jean Lopez
In the final week of the presidential election, the hot political storyline centered on how the maverick hockey mom, also known as Republican vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin, is really a “rogue,” a “diva,” and even, Lord help us, a “whack job.”
She’s gone “off message,” “McCain sources” complain.
Off message? Off message! That’s only something to complain about if you want Palin’s running mate to lose. Palin’s off-message remarks are better than a lot of things I’ve heard coming out of a campaign that could have used some messaging help more than once, an operation that hasn’t always been worthy of the seasoned public servant at its helm, John McCain.
Most of what Palin says — especially those statements raising the ire of some in the McCain camp — is sensible; it resonates. Palin exudes a common sense you can’t buy in a political consultant. For example, she supposedly committed a major faux pas in admitting she has no love for automated phone recordings. While talking to the press in Colorado Springs, Alaska’s governor asserted that she would prefer to communicate with American citizens personally, rather than rely on robocalls and shrill TV advertisements.
I sent a letter to Sarah, requesting that she visit me (without First Dude, of course). So far, she's a no-show.
When's she gonna start these personal communications?
I should go rake leaves.
Later.
check out that photo linked above. the original post noted he was on his way out to speak, took a sidestep and did 3 quick chin-ups. let's see that musclebound asshole do that.
comrade nona
Oh, you didn't mean this photo:
http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/...ives/
13675.html
I still say Bush's pardon list signed before noon on the 20th of January
will be an instant classic - of some sort or another.
"Me."
You can't pardon someone who has not yet been indicted, charged or convicted of a crime
Nobody told me that.
As I recall, Lincoln chose to forgive.
Barry from Alaska
It was one and it is still controversial. Henry Wirz, commandant of Camp Sumter, the POW camp at Andersonville. You may be right about the impeachment. I think there are actually compelling arguments pro and con. I'm content to just put it behind us and move forward. I think many Americans feel the same way.
Steroids make your testicles shrink.
I know a few people that learned that fact the hard way back in the 70's.
.I don't think you can impeach an officeholder after he has left office.
Al Haig
You can, however, convict them of lots of things that they were immune from while in office. But for it to be an effective move, you first have to convince the American public that Bush was not just a shitty president, but a war criminal, and realign their minds so that they no longer identify with any of the ultra-nationalistic messages he based his presidency on. Otherwise, such an action will be regarded as mere partisan warfare.
McSpain's T. Rex appendages
I know, not cool.
billy b:
Ahnuld's bones are so weak from the years of steroid use he can't even set foot on a ski slope without breaking a leg.
80 year old women with osteoperosis are in better shape then he is.
$50 says Ted Stevens is on the list.
Barry from Alaska
Maybe, but I have a feeling that unless they can burn him he's just the kind of guy to let him rot.
Barry, it looks like your Gov. may be about to answer for a few misuses of funds and power.
Ruth
Like next Wednesday when she bills the state for her ride of shame home First Class on America West?
Schwartzenegger has been a far less heinous governor than I expected him to be.
Rendell: "CRUSH THEM".
http://www.ldnews.com/
ci_1086529...ce=most_emailed
Ed has teh maths.
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Shared: sure. I'd hope, though, that Obama wouldn't appoint a Federalist Society member to the Court, regardless of his/her legal expertise.
My guess is that Obama's appointments will be of people of superb legal scholarship, centrist-progressive but not lightning-rod lefty. The goal posts have moved so far to the right that Souter and Stevens are viewed as liberal, fakrissake. The odds of, say, Lawrence Tribe or Erwin Chermerinsky being appointed are, alas, slimmer.
Giving me a guilty conscience, this talk about raking leaves. I have to go tend to the garden.
Pardons will go as Jayackroyd said, I believe.
I know, not cool.
McSpain's an asshole, a liar, a fraud, a bigot, and a dumbass.
I have no problem ridiculing his sorry ass.
Ahnuld's bones are so weak from the years of steroid use he can't even set foot on a ski slope without breaking a leg.
There is that...
Barry, maybe the state troopers will meet her as she de-planes. Hope the photogs come along for the ride.
You can't pardon someone who has not yet been indicted, charged or convicted of a crime ...
Ford's pardon of Nixon broke that precedent, and since then, several people have been pre-pardoned. I don't think it's ever been tested, but I doubt that it's a constitutional use of the President's pardon power granted by Constitution. I'd like to see it go to the Supreme Court, but not the bunch that's currently in there.
What we need to do is continue to patiently, incrementally marginalize the Republican brand by creating a new positive Democratic image around which people can re-form their politcal identity values. Obama is currently doing a better job of that than any presidential candidate since Ronald Reagan. The Obami are truly scary-smart about these things.
Like next Wednesday when she bills the state for her ride of shame home First Class on America West?
My fantasy is RNC agents pulling the whole Palin brood out of the hotel before the East coast even closes and dropping them off at the Greyhound station with 1-way tickets to Alaska.
That would please me.
Barry, maybe the state troopers will meet her as she de-planes. Hope the photogs come along for the ride.
Ruth
WOOTEN!
Mongol General: Conan! What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women.
Mongol General: That is good! That is good.
You can't pardon someone who has not yet been indicted, charged or convicted of a crime
What had Nixon been indicted for when Ford pardoned him?
McSpain's an asshole, a liar, a fraud, a bigot, and a dumbass.
I have no problem ridiculing his sorry ass.
billy b
Lock the gimp in a small room with Janet Reno.
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Halloween Tally:
Just one, but it was a 10-year old dressed as Joey Ramone! Too cool for words! (I gave him a CD...)
WOOTEN!
Barry from Alaska
now, really, off to the garden.
I would not be at all surprised if the nomination to the court was a Progressive/Activist judge or clerk but the deciding factor will be the depth of the individuals scholarship.
Education Secretary Margaret Spellings, for example, has signaled possible interest in leading a business, one knowledgeable person says
She'd like to lead a business? Isn't that nice. I would too Margaret. I'd like to do alot of things but there's this thing called the real world that usually has other plans regarding what I want. If what I wanted mattered you, Margaret, wouldn't have been turning the department of education into the department of passing-this-standardized-test-or-ruining-your-
life. But good luck with that running a company thing. Maybe spending eight years sucking up to W will be worth something, somewhere.
I'm pretty sure Barack could take him to the cleaners one on one with a basketball.
Barry from Alaska
Arnold would have a coronary if he tried to play b-ball.
I owe Gerald Ford a coke.
Speaking of pardons, in high school I did a passable Nixon imitation. I would take questions in a mock press conference and when I needed more time to think of a snappy answer I would feign not hearing the question and say, "Pardon me?"
This was in 1973. Little did I know...
Ooooh, at the Sugar Bowl:
"Golden Nugget: Arizona orange sherbet, creamy vanilla ice cream and Sprite"... $4.25
"Creamed Walnut Fudge Sundae: Gooey marshmallow, sticky fudge and fresh walnuts all mixed together - smothering the gobs of creamy vanilla ice cream - whipping cream and a cherry." $5.25
McSpain's an asshole, a liar, a fraud, a bigot, and a dumbass.
I have no problem ridiculing his sorry ass.
billy b
He deserves ridicule.
Huckleberry Graham live on C-Span at Maverick rally in Springfield Va.
I owe Gerald Ford a coke.
Mark B
You can use mine.
You can, however, convict them of lots of things that they were immune from while in office. But for it to be an effective move, you first have to convince the American public that Bush was not just a shitty president, but a war criminal, and realign their minds so that they no longer identify with any of the ultra-nationalistic messages he based his presidency on. Otherwise, such an action will be regarded as mere partisan warfare.
blerb
Barry may be right. There may be cases of impeachment after the officeholder vacates his office. I believe there was a case with a judge where it did happen. To deny him benefits like pensions and prevent him from holding future office.
“I don’t want to just win this election. I want to crush them,”
That's what I like to hear.
Huckleberry Graham live on C-Span at Maverick rally in Springfield Va.
P O'Neill
Thanks, but no thanks.
What had Nixon been indicted for when Ford pardoned him?
P O'Neill | Homepage | 11.01.08 - 12:33 pm | #
Well, I am no constitutional scholar and have written off my chances of being nominated to the Court, but impeachment proceedings for "High Crimes and Misdemeanours" is just that, a legal indictment and trial that is carried out by the Legislative Branch.
http://www.watergate.info/impeac...-
articles.shtml
later, hosers.
peace
Education Secretary Margaret Spellings, for example, has signaled possible interest in leading a business...
One word: "phonics."
To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women.
In this case, Malkin, Ingraham, Coulter, etc.
Mmmm, that's good lamentation!
Oh, you didn't mean this photo:
please don't do something like that without warning...
Kathryn Jean Lopez
Another of those batshit crazy women that the right is SO full of.
I'm going to the Sugar Bowl now. I may or may not return.
Noting Doug Ginsberg on this three-judge panel that ok'd CREW deposing Cheeeney's aide, I had a Nina Totenberg flashback. Calls for another bowl.
http://ap.google.com/article/
ALe...Qy4euQD945MC8G0
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Schwartzenegger has been a far less heinous governor than I expected him to be.
The repukes in theis state are the vilest of the vile.
Arnie is no picnic. He's Arnie. A douchenozzle.
This was in 1973. Little did I know...
George Johnston
"Sock it......to me?"
I'm going to the Sugar Bowl now. I may or may not return.
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian
Have some for me, please.
How Republicans are feeling at the moment...
http://
theroadshowversion.files....mmiedearest.jpg
The repukes in theis state are the vilest of the vile.
Arnie is no picnic. He's Arnie. A douchenozzle.
Al Haig
I said "less heinous." I didn't say "Not heinous at all."
Lindsey Graham just said he hates America.
I said "less heinous." I didn't say "Not heinous at all."
Buzz Bomb
Ed Rendell said, "CRUSH THEM!"
c'mon - d.l. can be funny. at least his standup can be.
don't know why he's got a news show, though.
dirk gently, sociopathetic | Homepage | 11.01.08 - 11:11 am
Royal Canadian Air Farce
Not The 9'Oclock News
This Hour Has 22 Minutes
The Daily Show
The Rick Mercer Report
The Ali G Show
Dave Chappelle's Show
In Living Color
SNL
SNL Thursday Update
Chocolate News with David Allen Grier
Countdown With Keith Olbermann
any more questions?
I must part with Atrios on this one. I'm savoring each day.
In Illinois we have a bunch of crooked Democrats fighting over the spoils of electoral dominance.
DiFi may be running for Arnie's job after she leaves the senate.
Lindsey Graham just said he hates America.
Sorry, October Surprise expired yesterday.
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FReeper reveals Obama's secret plan:
Obama/Liberal Psy-Ops: Be on The Alert for Those Recruited or Paid to Discourage You
Various ^ | HillBuzz, Yahoo & Wikipedia
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2008 12:35:05 PM by quesney
Pyschological-ops have been and continue to be employed against us.
Heh heh heh. Youse have been hyp-mo-tized. It was so easy, too, as youse are so weak-minded.
Any WA voters? I saw Ladenburg talk the other day. He seems like a good AG candidate. Unlike McKenna, he thinks jail time for white collar criminals would help deter white collar crime. No wonder Republicans are so afraid of Ladenburg.
I'd prefer we keep electing actors.
I'd rather vote for Warren Beatty than Difi.
I want a hot looking First Lady like Annette Benning.
Let's see how long it takes gravatar to deliver my new image.
Sallyh
What a cutie! Hope you have many fresh pictures over many years, starting very soon.
.I must part with Atrios on this one. I'm savoring each day.
Dissento, predicting 338 EVs
I can't say I'm savoring each day, but I can bear this tempered optimism a whole lot better than I could have borne the paralytic anxiety I expected I might be going through.
Obama/Liberal Psy-Ops: Be on The Alert for Those Recruited or Paid to Discourage You
I do that for free.
From link above....
John McCain sidekick Lindsey Graham is getting a crowd in Springfield Virgina riled up about Barack Obama --
"Chicago is 705 miles away but it might as well be on the moon compared to Virginia."
I'm from Chicago, lived here for 44 years, I've visited Virginia, seems like a nice place, fuck you Lindsay.
Pro Boner
Interesting Globe article on 'Rockefeller Republicans' as an endangered species:
http://www.boston.com/news/local...e_rockefellers/
Now, I've heard the odd voice demand that the Democrats, in order to claim the slightest legitimacy, tack to the center and renounce what's been characterized as their extreme left. Even given the disastrous Bush record, and the pathetic McCain campaign, and the utterly inadequate slate of candidates that yielded McCain as the best of a bas bunch, I've seen very little suggestion in the media that the Republicans, by sacrificing their center and moving to their right, have done anything wrong, or politically damaging...
Well, I am no constitutional scholar and have written off my chances of being nominated to the Court, but impeachment proceedings for "High Crimes and Misdemeanours" is just that, a legal indictment and trial that is carried out by the Legislative Branch.
I don't believe Ford's pardon was for the impeachment, but for future criminal indictments which may have occured. The text of the pardon proclamation seems to bear that out:
[excerpt]It is believed that a trial of Richard Nixon, if it became necessary, could not fairly begin until a year or more has elapsed. In the meantime, the tranquility to which this nation has been restored by the events of recent weeks could be irreparably lost by the prospects of bringing to trial a former President of the United States. The prospects of such trial will cause prolonged and divisive debate over the propriety of exposing to further punishment and degradation a man who has already paid the unprecedented penalty of relinquishing the highest elective office of the United States.
Now, THEREFORE, I, GERALD R. FORD, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9,1974.
I must part with Atrios on this one. I'm savoring each day.
Dissento, predicting 338 EVs
I'm savoring the troll meltdowns. But with any luck, those will continue to be plentiful in the next few weeks/months.
This makes me happy, because he didn't need to do it.
NO-on-Prop-8 Signs at 49er Steve Young’s Home
BTW, IANAL, so I defer to any attorneys who have a better knowledge of this issue.
Maverick: attacks on Joe the Plumber are attacks on all small businesses.
With the U.S. Presidential Election in its final days, CBR presents a gallery not of traditional political cartoons, but rather creative and humorous political expressions unique to the comic book and internet cultures.
http://www.comicbookresources.co...rticle&
id=18655
I liked the Sarah Palin as an Alien Skrull image, and the McCain as Joker.
NOW IT COMES OUT.
THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN IS FUNDED BY WELFARE QUEEN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT RELATIVES.
OBAMA WILL LOSE IN A LANDSLIDE FOR THIS CRIMINAL ACT ALONE.
Chicago is 705 miles away but it might as well be on the moon compared to Virginia.
Seriously, fuck this ongoing Gooper shit. Either this is one country, or it isn't. If it isn't, then fucking end it and break it up.
ProfWombat
If we could manage to do away with the Electoral College, we could elect a more left leaning Executive. The make up of the House would still be a matter of all politics is local but that one act along, requiring a constitutional amendment, could be quite effective.
Someone should Lindsey how far Virginia is from the gay bars he cruises in South Carolina
pud, thanks for providing some emphasis to my gloat a few posts above yours
"I love your swimsuit area"-Matt Drudge to John McCain
illegal immigrant welfrea beeyatches for obama!!!
Maverick: "our old friend Barney Frank".
Gets the crowd to boo.
Maverick: attacks on Joe the Plumber are attacks on all small businesses.
P O'Neill
Sure! Just like disagreement with Bush foreign policy is an attack on the troops!
I've seen this movie. It manages to be boring and infuriating at the same time.
OBAMA WILL LOOSE IN A LANDSLIDE FOR THIS CRIMINAL ACT ALONE.
pud
Fixed your typo.
You didn't misspell "lose" as is customary for trolls.
Ya gotta hand it to Broder: wanking his way to a weekend wanker spot. A whole article calling this the best campaign he's ever seen finds time to slam Obama for not agreeing to meet McCain in weekly town hall meetings and because he "broke his word and rejected public financing". No criticism of McCain or what his campaign has become. Instead, he ends with this:
"The country faces a choice between two men who both promise the nation a more principled, less partisan leadership."
Only Broder would conclude that after watching McCain slander Obama, Pelosi, and Reid.
I've seen very little suggestion in the media that the Republicans, by sacrificing their center and moving to their right, have done anything wrong, or politically damaging...
ProfWombat
Slowly, day by day, our political discourse is becoming re-hinged.
Maverick: attacks on Joe the Plumber are attacks on all small businesses.
P O'Neill
Joe the Plumber is not a "small business" - although now that he's got a publicist, maybe it can be argued that he is!
Debbie Howell at WaPo:
"conservatives are right that they often don't see their views reflected enough in the news pages. . "
Um, Deb? News = reality.
pud is so stupid.
Remember, you can't spell dupe with p,u,d.
illegal immigrant welfrea beeyatches for obama!!!
Mooslim gaii marriages for obama!!!! Now with extra abortions!!!!!
Whoa, pud was almost as funny as MERKIN for a second there.
pud is Teh Stoopid
Joe The Plumber is an insult to everyone that realizes it's completely fabricated bull defecation
Joe ain't a licensed plumber and he doesn't make the type of money that would be affected at all by a Democratic Presidency except in a positive way
bah, more coffee needed
you can't spell dupe without p,u, and d.
Simels regrets etc, etc.
Al: yup. The best thing about eliminating the Electoral College would be that, of a sudden, folk would notice that even the reddest state is 40+% blue, and the case would be made there as well. It would instantly transform the caricature of the South as composed solely of rightie fundie racists.
I'd guess strongly that Democrats would have more to gain thereby than Republicans looking for their votes in blue states. There's a reason for Republicans constantly intriguing to limit the franchise.
Obama's stump speech in Henderson, NV was pretty much the same -- but I still enjoy hearing it.
Whoa, pud was almost as funny as MERKIN for a second there.
blerb
'Rockefeller Republicans' as an endangered species
Republican Youth Majority
http://www.rym.org/
Burrowing from within.
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Whoa, pud was almost as funny as MERKIN for a second there.
blerb
Typecasting?
I wish the press would stop calling him 'Joe the Plumber'. You need a license to be a plumber. At best, he's a plumber's helper.
Mark B | Homepage | 11.01.08 - 12:49 pm | #
Thanks Mark, nice read, that seems to bear out your position.....so, in the absence of any activity by the Justice Department against even the most unsavory characters of this administration, does it make sense that "Bush the War Criminal" would essentially go public by pardoning public officials and admitting that each is guilty of crimes that would require such a pardon? How big will that list need to be and what will be the reaction of those who are guilty but don't make the list? For that matter, what would be the reaction of someone on the list? Do they get a choice as to whether they are included?
Come January, Joe the plumber will find himself sitting embittered on the same desolate park bench as Sarah Palin, reamed wide open and throbbingly sore, utterly forgotten by his former patrons.
Crazy, ignorant people:
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.c...at-palin-rally/
Next, Obama is flying to *red* Springfield, MO for a rally.
I wish the press would stop calling him 'Joe the Plumber'. You need a license to be a plumber. At best, he's a plumber's helper.
Mark B
More of a wanker's helper, really.
That dog dressed as Joe, with added buttcrack (on a lower thread) was pretty funny.
WaPo is postioning itself to be a fulltime slime machine for the next 8 years.
I think Pud was being snarky - "welfare queen" funds Obama? Not bad.
I think pud was referencing Obama's Kenyan aunt.
Whoa, pud was almost as funny as MERKIN for a second there.
blerb
LOOSES points for proper spelling.
Haloscam eated my post.
Even for pud that's beyond stupid.
WaPo is postioning itself to be a fulltime slime machine for the next 8 years.
dr. cosmosis, drain surgeon
WaPo lost a crapload of subscribers 3rd quarter this year. Pretty soon, it will be sold door to door like "Grit".
I think Pud was being snarky
No, more like Palin, stringing right wing, racists code words together in their tone poem of hate, fear and despair.
Got to go run errands.
WaPo is postioning itself to be a fulltime slime machine for the next 8 years.
dr. cosmosis, drain surgeon
You know, I have a feeling that this time it will not work. That is the genius of the Obami in a nutshell.
so, in the absence of any activity by the Justice Department against even the most unsavory characters of this administration, does it make sense that "Bush the War Criminal" would essentially go public by pardoning public officials and admitting that each is guilty of crimes that would require such a pardon?
The wording of Ford's pardon was for any crimes that were committed or 'may have been committed' in a particular time period. If that is accepted as a valid use of the presidential pardon power, I don't see how any admission of guilt is necessary.
I expect Bush's use of the pardon power when he leaves to be unprecedented in scope. I don't put a blanket pardon on everyone in the Executive Office beyond the realm of possibility, but I don't know if he'd go that far. But certainly, he's going to pardon all of his co-conspirators in the various crimes of his administration, as his father did when he left office. Since the crimes are bigger and more widespread, the pardons are going to be more numerous and blatant. I'm just speculating.
Remember the seventeen volumes the WSJ put out about Clinton? Jeff Gerth in the Times? The murders, drug deals, threats, rapes, Whitewater, all of it? And remember how there was nothing, nothing at all, prosecutable ever to emerge?
Confidently expect the right to try doing the same thing to Obama..l
By my calculation, Obama's aunt paid for one sixth of a second of his infomercial last wednesday.
WaPo is postioning itself to be a fulltime slime machine for the next 8 years.
dr. cosmosis, drain surgeon
after this election's done - we should spend a great deal of effort fighting for a 4th estate we can trust - the media are and have been the enemy as much as repukkkes every step of the way - they helped drive the country to war and have blood on their hands and should never be allowed to forget it or be forgiven until they have the courage to ask for forgiveness
Maverick: attacks on Joe the Plumber are attacks on all small businesses.
P O'Neill
Joe the Plumber is not a "small business" - although now that he's got a publicist, maybe it can be argued that he is!
Buzz Bomb | 11.01.08 - 12:55 pm |
I like Bill Maher's take on Joe getting a publicist-he doesn't want to pay more taxes, but he's willing to give up 15%.
Jon Stewart, I think, was stunned momentarily when Bill Kristol was slamming the New York Times on his show.
"Wait a minute, you work for that paper."
We really ought to revise the Presidential pardon power so that you can pardon anybody EXCEPT for somebody who actually worked for your administration.
During the Kristol interview did I hear JS say that he would have voted for McStain if he'd been running against Gore in 2000?
Bill Kristol's most important associations are on the right. They're his audience, they're the only people who take him seriously, and they'll catch him if he falls.
So it's crucial for Kristol to position himself as writing for the Times, with out being of the Times...
I think Pud was being snarky
Too stupid to get "snark".
He's just being his ignorant, racist, hate-filled self.
Gallup today shows Obama up 52-41 among registerd voters, 52-42 among likely voters, both traditional and expanded models.
http://www.gallup.com/home.aspx
During the Kristol interview did I hear JS say that he would have voted for McStain if he'd been running against Gore in 2000?
dmark
Yes, and my jaw dropped.
Good news, all....
Obama is not the Antichrist!
(Unless it turns out that his birth certificate is fake.)
Since the crimes are bigger and more widespread, the pardons are going to be more numerous and blatant. I'm just speculating.
Mark B | Homepage | 11.01.08 - 1:04 pm | #
Ahhhh....just constructing a preliminary list for "The Star Chamber".
What is "welfrea"?
It's not impossible that Stewart's moved to the left as well.
And Gore 2000 wasn't Gore 2008. He did, after all, choose Lieberman, principally to insulate himself from Clinton. Though I voted for Gore, and never regretted the vote, even in the slightest.
We really ought to revise the Presidential pardon power so that you can pardon anybody EXCEPT for somebody who actually worked for your administration.
blerb | 11.01.08 - 1:07 pm
Oh, you know W's going to try to pardon himself-he's got a memo from David Addington saying it's legal, doncha know?
During the Kristol interview did I hear JS say that he would have voted for McStain if he'd been running against Gore in 2000?
dmark
Kristol would vote for Hitler if he came back tomorrow and ran in an election as a Repig.
What is "welfrea"?
Terry C - Obama/Biden 08
Bats in the welfrea?
You know, I have a feeling that this time it will not work. That is the genius of the Obama in a nutshell.
blerb
it definitely will not work but the never-ending sleaze is just too much
it's time to boycott these idiots the minute Obama is elected - we no longer need propaganda from pravda on the potomac - go after their brand - it's a killer - that goes double for cable news - wrong all the time.
Off to the soccer pitch--hang in there
No, more like Palin, stringing right wing, racists code words together in their tone poem of hate, fear and despair.
George Johnston
It's going to be insane here Tuesday night.
Wish there was a way to keep the trolls out.
Well, Jon Stewart has always had a thing for McCain, up until this election.
illegal immigrant welfrea beeyatches for obama!!!
Apparently, literacy is not all that important to pud the little puss
FReeper reveals Obama's secret plan
It should be illegal to breed freepers.
BREAKING: GALLUP WIDENS TO 10 AND 11.
Apparently, literacy is not all that important to pud the little puss
billy b
It think it's a disgrace that he's drunk this early in the day.
More poll Porn: judging from today's other polls, it appears the Zogby one day figure Drudge is creaming over is a fluke..
While enjoying an 11 point lead today's Gallup Tracking Poll overall, Obama has inched up to a 10 point lead in Gallup's "traditional voter" model. He is also up ten in the "expanded" model.
It's going to be insane here Tuesday night.
Wish there was a way to keep the trolls out.
Terry C - Obama/Biden 08
Are you kidding me? Tuesday night is the one night since 4 years ago that I will actually welcome the trools.
Gallup Traditional and Expanded Likely both at 10.
Pyschological-ops have been and continue to be employed against us.
They need psychological help.
Nevada - olidly blue
Colorado solidly blue
New Mexico - solidly blue
Virginia - solidly blue
Florida - solidly blue
what is the mcnuts stratergy?
I'm guessing rove is using his vaunted math to calculate number of days 'til indictment
It's going to be insane here Tuesday night.
Wish there was a way to keep the trolls out.
Terry C - Obama/Biden 08
Oh hell no, I so want them here! Although I have a sneaking suspicion they are going to be conspicuously absent.
Obama/Liberal Psy-Ops: Be on The Alert for Those Recruited or Paid to Discourage You
Various ^ | HillBuzz, Yahoo & Wikipedia
Hey, FReepers...McCain is not a true conservative, and if elected he'll build the NAFTA Superhighway!
(OK, when do I get my check?)
It think it's a disgrace that he's drunk this early in the day.
puddy's pretty much drunk all the time, I would imagine.
sterno is the idiot's favorite beverage.
Tuesday night is the one night since 4 years ago that I will actually welcome the trools.
blerb |
Think any of them will have the stones to show up here?
They ARE disgusting little cowards, as we all know.
Wonder how many death threats will be made against us.
Oh my
"WASHINGTON (AP) - Barack Obama's aunt, a Kenyan woman who has been quietly living in public housing in Boston, is in the United States illegally after an immigration judge rejected her request for asylum four years ago, The Associated Press has learned.
Zeituni Onyango, 56, referred to as "Aunti Zeituni" in Obama's memoir, was instructed to leave the United States by a U.S. immigration judge who denied her asylum request, a person familiar with the matter told the AP late Friday. This person spoke on condition of anonymity because no one was authorized to discuss Onyango's case..."
Is Glorious Messiah Hussein Obama not his sister's keeper?
the horror!
the humanity!
the hypocrisy...
.Gallup Traditional and Expanded Likely both at 10.
Gomez
Zouch! That pretty much sez Reagan-Carter.
Welfare for bankers.
Bomb and torture.
Spend the political and financial capital!
Spy on the public.
I'm voting this morning (still is here) soon as I get a little more coffee inside me.
what is the mcnuts stratergy?
He's going to stand up there on Election Night and DEMAND that he DESERVES to be made president because he was a POW.
And that the election results should be ignored.
Then, hopefully, the men in the white coats will come and collect him and Mooselina.
The dickyanker is as pathetic as usual.
Pud is here to conduct his psychotic operatics upon us.
That's the best time to play poke the trool, when you're winning.
Schadenfreude, baby!
He's going to stand up there on Election Night and DEMAND that he DESERVES to be made president because he was a POW.
It will be chimpy's last executive order to cause that to happen, cause this will cause chaos, and chimpy the MBA loves that.
I especially enjoy Lubby's psychotic operatics.
The mood at LGF and Free Repuke Tuesday will be very funereal.
I especially enjoy Lubby's psychotic operatics.
Al Haig
It's the same old shit.
I think dickyanka is a bot.
pud and lubie should get to get and fuck themselves.
Expect an upswing in militia activity and, of course, the return of the ubiquitous UN black helicopters.
Is Glorious Messiah Hussein Obama not his sister's keeper?
ZOMG OBAMA'S FATHER'S HALF-SISTER MAY BE GUILTY OF A NONCRIMINAL OFFENSE!
THIS ELECTION'S OVER!
the humanity!
the hypocrisy...
Rightards know nothing of humanity.
Hypocrisy, however, is second nature to them.
i spent two hours in line voting this am.
got there half hour early and there were already a couple of hundred people.
all just so i could cancel out the mccrazy vote in front of and behind me.
it felt like that famous short story, The Lottery. i certainly would have liked to stone some of those bastards.
I think dickyanka is a bot.
Nah. He's just down to the dregs and has nothing left to pull out of his ass except his own head.
The mood at LGF and Free Repuke Tuesday will be very funereal.
Using proxy servers,
go there and post. easy to follow suicide instructions.
Is Glorious Messiah Hussein Obama not his sister's keeper?
LubyBrian wants Obama to break the law?
The mood at LGF and Free Repuke Tuesday will be very funereal.
Terry C - Obama/Biden 08
We'll have to tap into the emergency Prozac reserve to treat the great mass of afrophobics on Nov. 5.
pud and lubie should get to get and fuck themselves.
Supreme Commander Thor | 11.01.08 - 1:23 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
I believe the technical term would be solo masturbation.
Former President Dukakis Congratulates Senator Obama On His Lead In The Polls:
"I've been there, and it's a great place to be," said the beloved ex-President.
He's going to stand up there on Election Night and DEMAND that he DESERVES to be made president because he was a POW.
I say if he were to be made president because of that he has to serve out his term locked in a tiger cage. Palin can come in every day and play the Roulette scene from "The Deer Hunter".
Oh, that last one is pathetic even for dickyanker.
I'm for Ice Tea Jesus and super sticky budz!
LubeJob and pud. Not a millimeter of dick between them.
i certainly would have liked to stone some of those bastards.
charley
A frozen sock filled with horse manure would have worked very well.
Tobes lost it last night and started flashin' "nigga" and "culture" memes around.
Nice to see he just couldn't keep that inner racist chained up forever.
The mood at LGF and Free Repuke Tuesday will be very funereal.
Terry C - Obama/Biden 08
I've never been to any funeral where people were shrieking interminably about the End of America, spouting racist slurs, and comparing the size of their weapons caches, but perhaps you move in different circles.
Tobes lost it last night and started flashin' "nigga" and "culture" memes around.
Nice to see he just couldn't keep that inner racist chained up forever.
Supreme Commander Thor
Toby is a disgusting piece of shit.
I guess the only thing left for the trolls after Tuesday is to enlist in the military.
Wait . . . ah, hahahahahaha!
I've never been to any funeral where people were shrieking interminably about the End of America, spouting racist slurs, and comparing the size of their weapons caches, but perhaps you move in different circles.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint
Klan funerals were probably like that, but I wouldn't know.
Larry O'Donell just predicted mid 300 EV, possibly blowing up to 400.
Oh my.
SOMEONE SET UP US THE BOMB.
Nice to see he just couldn't keep that inner racist chained up forever.
Supreme Commander Thor | 11.01.08 - 1:27 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
I loved the thing about McCain being "a servant to his culture." That's pure gold.
How bad off are the repugs: they're down to having Ahnold "Manzeer" criticizing Obama's build.
I haven't done this for a very long time, but an old friend of mine says he's got some red firecracker bud on hand. I might smoke a doobie of this early Wednesday morning.
SOMEONE SET UP US THE BOMB.
Gomez
All your electoral vote are belong to us!
shrieking interminably about the End of America, spouting racist slurs, and comparing the size of their weapons caches
They're already doing that, which is as good an indication to me as any that they know they've already lost this bitch.
ZOMG OBAMA'S FATHER'S HALF-SISTER MAY BE GUILTY OF A NONCRIMINAL OFFENSE!
She's the one hiding the whitey tape.
dickyanka approved of Poppy Bush and Lee Atwater's racist tactics during the 1988 campaign.
What a surprise.
Remember how Atwater ended up, Luby? Not a pleasant end.
shrieking interminably about the End of America, spouting racist slurs, and comparing the size of their weapons caches
Sounds like a party I attended with Hunter S. Thompson.
How bad off are the repugs: they're down to having Ahnold "Manzeer" criticizing Obama's build.
dr. cosmosis, drain surgeon
Especially when AhNuld looks like shit.
All those years of steroid abuse.
I've always thought of him as a toilet-trained gorilla anyway.
SOMEONE SET UP US THE BOMB.
Gomez
All your electoral vote are belong to us!
Supreme Commander Thor
HA HA HA HA......
I tried to make some bets on Obama's upcoming win with a McCain supporter (who knows I think he's mccains sweaty yellow jock strap) I started with a $100.00 bet, which he would not take, I went down to fiddy cents. He still would not bet.
We'll have to tap into the emergency Prozac reserve to treat the great mass of afrophobics on Nov. 5.
DFH in Dubrovnik
I refuse to share my beers with them, that would be socialist.
Especially when AhNuld looks like shit.
All those years of steroid abuse.
He's not looking all that hot these days. And those heart attacks from smoking cigars . . . sure they were.
Ok so I figured each working day (260 in a year) there's 10,000,000 groups of people who have lunch together. Lunch for a group costs $100, so that's a $1 billion per day, or $260 billion in a year. The one rethug in the group has to buy lunch for everyone else, so let's say there's three others in the group, so only 75% of the lunch bill counts, that's $195 billion/year paid back. Boosh stole around $12 trillion, so in roughly 61 years that will be paid back, in the form of free lunch for people who didn't vote for boosh.
Let's be generous and say rethugs only have to buy everyone lunch until 2050. If they object to this we can call them socialists.
"I've been there, and it's a great place to be," said the beloved ex-President.
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Bush was leading Dukakis by September of '88.
I tried to make some bets on Obama's upcoming win with a McCain supporter (who knows I think he's mccains sweaty yellow jock strap) I started with a $100.00 bet, which he would not take, I went down to fiddy cents. He still would not bet.
Doug
Another Auggy...chickenshit.
Bush was leading Dukakis by September of '88.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint
Rightards never allow facts and the truth to get the way of their insane rants.
I tried to make some bets on Obama's upcoming win with a McCain supporter (who knows I think he's mccains sweaty yellow jock strap) I started with a $100.00 bet, which he would not take, I went down to fiddy cents. He still would not bet.
Doug
Four years ago, I made a bet with one of my copilots, a fundy kind of guy. I bet him a case of beer that Barack would beat Alan Keyes by a 70-30 margin.
He still hasn't paid up.
Of course, that should be $12 trillion "stole or wasted"
I went down to fiddy cents. He still would not bet.
Doug
Jesus, man, that is about as scared as you can get if you won't even put 40% of the cost of a 20 oz Coke behind your man.
McCain't is gonna crash and burn like one of his totaled jets.
Terkel sheets.
some sorta wise bird, or bedclothing, or some shit.
Let me pick the restaurants, and we can run the Reblicant lunch bill debt obligation down much sooner than in 2050, and this is only Tucson. I'm sure those living in San Francisco, DC, NY, Chicago, and do this even quicker.
Four years ago, I made a bet with one of my copilots, a fundy kind of guy.
Air Force Academy grad? One of my high school buddies disappeared into its maw. Went in a garden variety Catholic, came out a raving fundie (sold Amway on the side, too).
We'll have to tap into the emergency Prozac reserve to treat the great mass of afrophobics on Nov. 5.
No Prozac, but I have some delicious Guyana Kool-Aid I'm willing to share.
:terrorist fist bump:
Kelly O'Donnell really is a blithering idiot.
gee, it was Albert Gore, Jr., not Lee Atwater, who first mentioned Willie Horton, in the primaries
Buzz Bomb,
I think you are far too generous towards Arnie. Looking at the appointments he's made to boards and some that he's sidetracked and where his money comes from, he's a big time corporate whore. What did the Legislature get from him out of the gate? "Girly Men".
He's mellowed out and become "bipartisan" only when he realized nothing would get done if he threw his lot in with the bat-shit crazy 'Thuglican leges.
This switch with DiFi in 2012 has got to be killed on both ends.
the famous, hilarious "global warming" alarmist, Albert Gore, Jr., who won an Oscar for his series of comedy shorts, "Wherever I Go, It Freezes"...
I'd love to bundle up LubeJob and take him to the frozen (for the time being) North and offer him up to some starving Polar Bear. That would give me GREAT pleasure.
One of the solaces of the econmic downturn is the certainty that so many competent comdieans out of work guarantees that Luby will starve to death.
Ooo… they have a Homeland Security helicopter sweeping Grant Park right now (that's the view from my apartment).
The freepi think that all the polls are wrong and it's a conspiracy.
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