I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
mine!
well, okay, not really. i don't have an enemies list.
you know, that whole hate thing is way too time consuming.
to whiskeyina.
whiskeyina
At least you're not leibniz. Good for you.
so, let's just say peace.
okay??
(except to whoever the fuck that is who just stepped on my home run!!)
Whoa.
Duncan, is this suppose to be funny?
I can't imagine Bill Clinton with an enemies' list.
Hillary, yes.
NOT that THAT is a BAD thing!
mer and JeffCO, may I humbly apologize for letting competitiveness get the best of me...
He hates the MoveOn crowd? - That was the group defending him from the Monica fiasco
I'm watching a story about John Muhammad the Beltway Sniper.
The first Gulf War apparently affected that dude BIG time.
Isn't Chris Bowers the cute one? Or am I thinking of someone else?
Repost from underthread:
The women's rights issue pissed me off in this country. The ERA Amendment initiative was when I have a junior in high school, and I'm gettin' kind of old now.
WTF is wrong with us? Why is recognizing women as equals such a big fucking hurtle? I'm getting impatient in my early late middle age.
People say, well the culture had them in the kitchen.
That was fifty fucking year ago!
three cheers for whiskeyina!
WTF is this about?
The previous photo linked with this story was digitally altered by mistake. Politico.com regrets the error.
Evenin' dirk. I hope all is well with you.
Ben Stein is a total asshole.
http://www.politico.com/news/sto...0508/
10648.html
My list is more of a "people who irritate me" list, and I simply try to avoid long car trips with them.
As has Bill Clinton, according to campaign chairman Terry McAuliffe. Introducing Clinton on the donor call, McAuliffe said “nobody has worked harder on this campaign than President Clinton. He has worked as hard as he did when he was president of the United States."
badchoiceofwords.
I'm watching a story about John Muhammad the Beltway Sniper.
Big Obama supporter, of course.
MP | 05.31.08 - 9:20 pm
I hear ya!
And certain people are doing everything they can to roll back the rights that we do have in this country.
And may Phyllis Schlafly and her kind rot in hell.
obama is a gay terrorist.
WTF? Can Atrios not let a working thread lie for 30 femtoseconds?
i never realized that moveon was such a powerful force. i thought they were just a way for soros to needle papa bear.
GravatarHe hates the MoveOn crowd? - That was the group defending him from the Monica fiasco
Gilly Gonzylon
He's moved on.
He has worked as hard as he did when he was president of the United States."
badchoiceofwords.
leibniz leibkins ♘☮
Clinton worked very hard when he was president.
As compared to this eternally-vacationing fuckwad we've been saddled with since 2001.
What changce did a two-term President have against an online petition???
So anyway I just had a beer with the three, six foot tall, animatronic mice in my garage...
I'm watching a story about John Muhammad the Beltway Sniper.
Big Obama supporter, of course.
SteveLG
I doubt it.
He hates everyone.
obama says AmeriKKKa burn in Hell, Wright on 
"obama is a gay terrorist."
And a Muslim Christian. Also, a husband and father of two.
That covers about every vote in the country, doesn't it?
So anyway I just had a beer with the three, six foot tall, animatronic mice in my garage...
cahuenga | 05.31.08 - 9:24 pm
Just the one beer, was it?
A couple of months ago, I set up an 'Enemies of Clintonism' list as a joke..
http://www.bluemassgroup.com/sho...o?
diaryId=10941
That covers about every vote in the country, doesn't it?
mer | 05.31.08 - 9:25 pm | #
he is part white.
That covers about every vote in the country, doesn't it?
mer | 05.31.08 - 9:25 pm | #
just a dumbfuck namestealer.
Just the one beer, was it?
They were delicate adjustments.
I've decided the only honorable choice is Mr. B Natural.
Jesus, the 50's were a bad time not to be a white male. Blacks and women were pretty much invisible, except to go fetch you a beer.
tHe aLLEgED lINK IS wITH a rAsHId kHaLiDi wHo wAs oNcE tHE prEs SsEcReTArY fOR ThE pLo aND yAssIR aRaFaT AnD nOW A pRofFEsOr AT cOluMbia uNivERsItY. tHe pROfFEsOR oNcE tHaNKED fOrMeR wEAtHermAn tErRoRiST wIlLiAm ayerS fOr tHe UsE oF hIs dIninG rOoM tAblE To wRIte a rEpOrT
And why exactly should I read 'Teh Politico' for their enviable take on the senior Democratic representative in the country?
I think I'd rather continue to worry about replacing my shoji blinds with wood slat ones.
my name stealer was previously known as "Harriet Christian speaks for m"
whiskeyina -- we are having bandwidth issues & everyone is supposed to stick to dial-up -- this is doubleplusungood -- come sit by me & tell me about the rabbits ...
So, back to me 
Should I go out tonight even though I have a huge zit in the middle of my face and I look just like this?
"Following instructions from Obama HQ, almost no Obama supporters have shown up to protest, amplifying the impression of the alternate Hillary universe. But around the edges, a few small signs of the other universe peek through, the one in which Barack Obama leads and most Democrats don't suspect him of multiple felonies. Inside the Marriott's gift shop, the sales clerk tells me that Democratic bumper stickers have been selling like crazy today. "Mostly Hillary?" I ask.
"Actually, mostly Obama," she giggles."
http://
thepoliticalcarnival.blog...rprotester.html
Clinton was in the area before the PA primary. I saw him twice in one week. I think he is an amazing speechifier, and tireless, which makes me happy, since he owes his wife. Charismatic, hot? Nah, not so much. He is an aging man with heart problems.
I love wood blinds, gwpda! Especially the way the moonlight comes through them at night.
The 40's were different. We tolerated women and blacks then, because we needed them to help run the war machine.
and I look just like this?
whiskeyina
i can haz apple?
I read that French women were not allowed to wear pants to work until '68.
my name stealer was previously known as "Harriet Christian speaks for m"
Simels?
A hobbit married to a Wood Elf?
Shire and Mirkwood 08!
NTodd, Pink Poseur | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 9:19 pm |
So should Dennis play Bilbo, or should James McAvoy?
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins | 05.31.08 - 9:23 pm
whiskeyina, u are adorable. And Elizabeth Arden pancake iz ur friend. About $15. for a little pot, it covers EVERYTHING and lasts forever.
Tell me about teh rabbits. Did u tell teh darling girls about my Visiting Kitties?
Jesus, the 50's were a bad time not to be a white male. Blacks and women were pretty much invisible, except to go fetch you a beer.
Very true. Also explains the sentimental retrograde nostalgia among certain groups of people in this country to recreate those years in any way possible. And I'm not talking 21-cent gasoline, either....
Yeah, idyllic for some.
I think I'd rather continue to worry about replacing my shoji blinds with wood slat ones.
Wood is the way to go. My folks had some wooden ones that rolled up, with very thin slats. They would have lasted forever if not for the cats tearing at the strings.
I read that French women were not allowed to wear pants to work until '68.
cahuenga | 05.31.08 - 9:30 pm | #
didn't they get chilly?
At least, that's what one of the mice said.
OOOOOh, send me the old shojis.
come sit by me & tell me about the rabbits ...
Prior Aelred |
Is that a reference to All About Eve and my delusion that I can be as alluring as Marilyn Monroe??
BTW -- I am really pissed that any of Michigan's delegates were seated based on the results of a vote that we were told WOULD NOT COUNT -- many of us voted for Mitt because of that -- NO ONE SHOULD HAVE BEEN SEATED!
I love you, Dirk.
Ellsbury has three stolen bases tonight. And a triple that would have been a double for anyone else. And he just scored on a shallow fly ball to left.
many of us voted for Mitt because of that -- NO ONE SHOULD HAVE BEEN SEATED!
Maybe they should've given some delegates to Mitt...
Very true. Also explains the sentimental retrograde nostalgia among certain groups of people in this country to recreate those years in any way possible.
It's also the time when a lot of boomers were kids, so there's that whole "recapturing childhood" thing.
Also, that's an era that was on the cusp of great change. It's like being on the edge of a hurricane.
500!
And Elizabeth Arden pancake iz ur friend. About $15. for a little pot, it covers EVERYTHING and lasts forever.
Auntie! I know nothing about make up!
Are you well this evening? Did you ever see the pony pictures over at the Parenting/Kidding blog?
Maybe they should've given some delegates to Mitt...
NTodd, Pink Poseur
he's getting on the butterfly ballot.
Let me take you higher:
NUEVO LAREDO, Mexico (Reuters) - U.S. customs officials have seized a statue of Jesus Christ made from plaster mixed with cocaine -- the latest sophisticated attempt to smuggle drugs from Mexico.
http://www.reuters.com/article/
d...031343320080530
Is Delegate Musical Chairs game finally over?
Ugh, jeezus, Score for the love of God!
Pssst!
Hey bud, ya wana see a crazy lady?
i can haz apple?
dirk gently, spiraling |
Did you ever read Neil Gaiman's version from the Queen's point of view? I love it.
And, here are a couple of *apples* for you, sweet dirk.
Well, actually "Of Mice and Men" (or the Rocky & Bullwinkle episode about goof gas -- take your pick)
I also recommend wood slats (as long as they are thick enough -- some really cheesy ones have been made -- don't go there)
Jesus, the 50's were a bad time not to be a white male. Blacks and women were pretty much invisible, except to go fetch you a beer.
MP |
I love these people who long for what they saw on sitcoms.
Wasn't even real.
Auntie! I know nothing about make up!
Got some Elmer's glue? That'll be close enough.
he's getting on the butterfly ballot.
Ask him about his dimpled chad.
So when wt gets back from the SEIU convention, will she be able to explain to us what all the brouhaha is about with the nurses?
U.S. customs officials have seized a statue of Jesus Christ made from plaster mixed with cocaine
Brings whole new meaning to the phrase, "pack your nose."
Obama "No, no, no we don't want your money as retribution for what you did to us whitey, we want your BLOOD"
Did you ever read Neil Gaiman's version from the Queen's point of view? I love it.
i don't believe so, but i generally lve that kind of thing. from grendal to wicked - alternate povs are always fun.
someday perhaps i will write 'smaug'
The first Gulf War apparently affected that dude BIG time.
Terry C , Overeducated Liberal
now there is something to think about.
because the first gulf war was a cake walk.
maybe it's better not to think about it.
someday perhaps i will write 'smaug'
Not the nicest of creatures, but proud, with a fatal flaw...
U.S. customs officials have seized a statue of Jesus Christ made from plaster mixed with cocaine
And he said to his disciples, "take my body and sniff it, for yay, it is a hell of a drug."
Ugh, jeezus, Score for the love of God!
camelot, Go Pens | 05.31.08 - 9:34 pm | #
mary magdeline? is that you?
Ellsbury has three stolen bases tonight.
the word of the day is "hijacked"
he hijacked three bases.
Obama "No, no, no we don't want your money as retribution for what you did to us whitey, we want your BLOOD"
This seems to be a bit of a strawman...
Oh, man...it's just melting now. Obama's done. He tried to do this just like the time some brothers came and stole the car my Daddy left me ---right there in the middle of a major thunderstorm.
No cover enough, Barry. You've been exposed and so have your supporters.
GOP priest attacks Obama in invocation
Here's the video of the invocation at the New York State Republican Party dinner last night, delivered to a crowd including Rudy Giuliani and Rep. Peter King, and where Dick Cheney later spoke.
In it, the priest, Monsignor Jim Lisante mockingly asks God to change Obama's mind and volunteers to replace Rev. Jeremiah Wright as Obama's pastor.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/
be...invocation.html
Full house, but there seem to be no Baltimore fans in Baltimore tonight.
Auntie! I know nothing about make up!
Think of it as Grownup Clearsil. Really. If there is a department store nearby? With an Arden counter? Just ask them. It is the answer.
Are you well this evening? Did you ever see the pony pictures over at the Parenting/Kidding blog?
I am well - but I have not seen teh ponies. I would like to!
Not the nicest of creatures, but proud, with a fatal flaw...
NTodd, Pink Poseur |
well, neither was grendal. it might actually make an interesting book ...
mary magdeline? is that you?
dirk gently, spiraling
The 40's were different. We tolerated women and blacks then, because we needed them to help run the war machine.
MP
Pisses ME off that women were just expected to give up their jobs and go back to the kitchens once the way was over.
Fuck that!
I told my daughter that I'm glad I was a kid during the 1950s (born in 1952) and not an adult.
I would have slit my wrists.
NOT a good time to be female.
No cover enough, Barry. You've been exposed and so have your supporters.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 9:38 pm | #
An McCain is now a footnote. He won't even win Arizona.
Pssst!
Hey bud, ya wana see a crazy lady?
cahuenga | 05.31.08 - 9:34 pm | #
--------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
Talk about black and white
Another saturday night and Tubby the Putzhole's only date is his racist mind.
And why exactly should I read 'Teh Politico' for their enviable take on the senior Democratic representative in the country?
I think I'd rather continue to worry about replacing my shoji blinds with wood slat ones.
that sounds like an excellent plan
Sometimes I wonder how Toby manages to eat and breathe, and other science facts.
Oh, man...it's just melting now. Obama's done.
Wow. You've got a great Magic 8 ball. Now ask it if burning dogs will get you laid.
Oh geez that Harriet video is sick and awesome at once.
An McCain is now a footnote. He won't even win Arizona.
true story | 05.31.08 - 9:40 pm | #
mccain couldn't win tic-tac-toe with a three move head start.
No cover enough, Barry. You've been exposed and so have your supporters.
President Obama**President Obama**President Obama**President Obama**President Obama**President Obama**President Obama**President Obama**President Obama**President Obama**President Obama**President Obama**President Obama**President Obama**President Obama**President Obama**President Obama**President Obama**President Obama**President Obama!
In it, the priest, Monsignor Jim Lisante mockingly asks God to change Obama's mind and volunteers to replace Rev. Jeremiah Wright as Obama's pastor.
WTF? Surely this is a joke. I cannot imagine what other countries must think of us.
I love these people who long for what they saw on sitcoms.
Wasn't even real.
Terry C , Overeducated Liberal
I can't believe the Pat Buchanans of the country didn't see that shit blowing up in the 1960's.
People can only take so much horseshit. And white males seem lately to be the most sensitive of all.
OK -- the 50's sucked if you were not a straight white male (unless, of course, you actually wanted to be a stay at home Mom) -- OTOH, the tax code was excellent & high school graduates who were union members were comfortably middle class -- the liberation movements for persons of color & women & gays (& lesbians) are absolutely right (& in accordance with the basic Enlightenment principles undergirding our Constitution), BUT they fed straight white patriarchy fear -- which is why McCain is going to be hard to beat (that & the Electoral College)!
OR you could sit on my lap (with or without makeup)
Okay - the show I'm watching is not about the Beltway Sniper.
It's about his ex wife.
Boy, talk about an abused woman.
someday perhaps i will write 'smaug'
Not the nicest of creatures, but proud, with a fatal flaw...
NTodd, Pink Poseur | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 9:37 pm |
Just a little, tiny.
But he was nice and shiny.
http://www.tuckborough.net/image...mages/
smaug.jpg
And white males seem lately to be the most sensitive of all.
MP | 05.31.08 - 9:41 pm | #
And the weakest, and most frightened, if Toby's any indication.
Aunite: ponies (from a few weeks ago. the girls are posting and trotting these days...)
A croissant with pimiento cheese with cornichons? Iz this an acceptable dinner?
And the weakest, and most frightened, if Toby's any indication.
Afraid of losing power, and by extension, their concept of potency.
As a while guy myself, I don't fucking care. Just give me someone competent.
the tax code was excellent & high school graduates who were union members were comfortably middle class
yeah. too bad about that. who the hell decided to brak the unions and flatten the tax code, anyway? fucking 50s haters.
why McCain is going to be hard to beat
Er, no.
The guy is a loser. His own party doesn't even like him.
or Karin could come sit by me (God, I hate dial-up!)
Former Bush donors now giving to Obama's campaign
Among them are Julie Nixon Eisenhower, the daughter of the late GOP President Richard Nixon and wife of late GOP President Dwight Eisenhower's grandson; Connie Ballmer, the wife of Microsoft Chief Executive Officer Steve Ballmer; Ritchie Scaife, the estranged wife of conservative tycoon Richard Mellon Scaife and boxing promoter Don King.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/s...tory/
39067.html
while = white. d'oh.
As a while guy myself, I don't fucking care. Just give me someone competent.
Just give me some poontang.
Iz this an acceptable dinner?
Considering that Tubby is eating an Alpo burrito tonight, yes.
I'm a white male, and I'm the luckiest fucker who ever lived, IMO.
Sometimes I wonder how Toby manages to eat and breathe, and other science facts.
It's a mystery.
I'm pretty sure he has enough fat on his frame to last him for at least a year though.
Considering that Tubby is eating an Alpo burrito tonight, yes.
cosmosis | 05.31.08 - 9:44 pm | #
by choice, no less.
Except for Lou Gehrig.
I can't believe the Pat Buchanans of the country didn't see that shit blowing up in the 1960's.
People can only take so much horseshit. And white males seem lately to be the most sensitive of all.
MP
People like Buchanan and Cal Thomas are always raging about Boomers.
Because, ya know, things were SO much better in the 1950s....when women, gays and African Americans "knew their place."
(from a few weeks ago. the girls are posting and trotting these days...)
Oh!
Oh!
Such beauties! Such good girls....
Just give me some poontang.
There's no reason there can't be both.
¡Screw the Politico!
Rrreally, screw em' and never cite them again, maldito Reaganite-funded right-weengnut bullsheet talking-points factory.
The Politico is FOX news for college grads, scrrrew them.
Just give me some poontang.
There's no reason there can't be both.
Trying not to be overly greedy.
And white males seem lately to be the most sensitive of all.
MP | 05.31.08 - 9:41 pm | #
And the weakest, and most frightened, if Toby's any indication.
true story
Green teef cracker white trash.
My first evening as a bachelor, and I have no cold beer.
Definitely out of practice.
Former Bush donors now giving to Obama's campaign
Among them are Julie Nixon Eisenhower, the daughter of the late GOP President Richard Nixon and wife of late GOP President Dwight Eisenhower's grandson; Connie Ballmer, the wife of Microsoft Chief Executive Officer Steve Ballmer; Ritchie Scaife, the estranged wife of conservative tycoon Richard Mellon Scaife and boxing promoter Don King.
Wow.....fucking WOW!
by choice, no less.
Toby's notion of empathizing with his victims....
Because, ya know, things were SO much better in the 1950s....when women, gays and African Americans "knew their place."
Yah, well, I was in Calgary. And "Americans" knew their place.
I'm pretty sure he has enough fat on his frame to last him for at least a year though.
Yeah, I guess he's just a troll; I should really just relax.
Yah, well, I was in Calgary. And "Americans" knew their place.
I wonder if Canada even looks at us as their Mexico.
A croissant with pimiento cheese with cornichons? Iz this an acceptable dinner?
sure!!
or Karin could come sit by me (God, I hate dial-up!)
You wouldn't be the first monk I've sat next to. But I've said too much.
Ouch
Just give me some poontang.
Lennon's original lyric.
Just give me some poontang.
There's no reason there can't be both.
Trying not to be overly greedy.
NTodd, Pink Poseur
perhaps you would settle for reptilian monsters and tiny bikinis? if so, sci fi channel right now.
Terry C- I read Chuck Hagel's wife gave $500 to the Obama campaign.
Actually, Senator Obama has also trashed boomers -- I would like to be sure of one state that Obama can carry that Kerry didn't -- if he really inspires new voters, the entire dynamic might change -- the Electoral College map has not been good for Democrats since it gave up white supremacy (I'm not analyzing or blaming -- just describing -- considering that LBJ was the VP nominee in 1960 just to carry Texas, I'm surprised at how close Texas was!)
Check it out. I worked really hard since I graduated from college. And I made a lot of money. And I live on a beautiful lake.
Well, hell, it doesn't take Hank Einstein to figure out that working hard your whole life don't mean no lakehouse.
I'm very lucky.
If Hillary had admitted she was mistaken on giving shrub the authority to invade Iraq she would have won easily. Instead she voted to give Bush the same power with Iran.
The sexist pundits and all the other excuses would not have mattered at all. She would have won easily. Bill's points are true but they didn't mean jack shit. Hillary lost because of her war votes and lack of contrition.
I hope Mark Penn is on Bill's enemies list.
Oh, and his wife.
And his penis.
perhaps you would settle for reptilian monsters and tiny bikinis?
That's just goofy. How the hell would they put on those bikinis with their little arms?
Actually, Senator Obama has also trashed boomers -- I would like to be
sure of one state that Obama can carry that Kerry didn't -- if he
really inspires new voters, the entire dynamic might change -- the
Electoral College map has not been good for Democrats since it gave up
white supremacy (I'm not analyzing or blaming -- just describing --
considering that LBJ was the VP nominee in 1960 just to carry Texas,
I'm surprised at how close Texas was!)
You and me, bubba.
perhaps you would settle for reptilian monsters and tiny bikinis? if so, sci fi channel right now.
That thing better not lay a claw on Winnie Cooper.
Yeah, I guess he's just a troll; I should really just relax.
Just ignore him.
He's stupid, fat, ugly and nobody likes him.
"My first evening as a bachelor, and I have no cold beer.
Definitely out of practice."
--Gromit
The night's still young. I'll save your seat.
the girl with the tiniest bikini is gone.
Gromit, you do own a vehicle, do you not?
Or can you walk to the corner?
Karin, tell me more! (guys, pretending that you're interested is how you pick up chicks -- I learned this from "South Park")
That's just goofy. How the hell would they put on those bikinis with their little arms?
Anon | 05.31.08 - 9:51 pm | #
the tails are even more problematic.
My first evening as a bachelor, and I have no cold beer.
Definitely out of practice.
It's like riding a bike...
A croissant with pimiento cheese with cornichons? Iz this an acceptable dinner?
Needs more veggies.
(guys, pretending that you're interested is how you pick up chicks -- I learned this from "South Park")
I love you, but only reverently, in the agape sense.
if he really inspires new voters, the entire dynamic might change
I am very hopeful that this will come to pass, but worry that the new voters may not have the staying power to stick through a messy campaign. But overall, I like our chances.
Oh goodness:
Clinton asked the crowd to remember “every time you turn on the television and you listen to one of those people dissin’ her, they all have a college degree. They’ve all got a good job. They all got health care. And they’re having no trouble fillin’ up their gas tank.”
Yeah, that is the ticket baby.
Mr. "those 16 words were just a mistake" cares about gas prices like he cared about his Marc Rich liberation, right!
This must be Howard Dean's last laugh, so I wonder if Hillary can show how she is half the lady that Howard Dean was the man?
Hillary, your name is mud dear - get used to it.
Gromit, you do own a vehicle, do you not?
Or can you walk to the corner?
I know my alcohol inventory better than my bank balance.
When Rupert Murdoch starts making nice noises about a democrat something has to be up:
In the 2008 U.S. Presidential race, Murdoch said he is not yet backing anyone, but then quickly added: "I want to meet Obama. I want to know if he going to walk the walk."
Murdoch said he had played a role in the endorsement by the New York Post, one of his global stable of papers, in endorsing Obama during the Democratic primary with Hillary Clinton in New York.
guys, pretending that you're interested is how you pick up chicks
i usually just try to get them under the arms. remember to lift with your knees, though, we don't want any injuries.
GWPDA -- I understand that both of us haven't been around much -- UOK?
I am very hopeful that this will come to pass, but worry that the new voters may not have the staying power to stick through a messy campaign. But overall, I like our chances.
They are still fired up here, and all this nonsense that Clinton has pulled has only strengthened their determination.
Needs more vegies?
Yesterday I consumed on the order of half a peck of vegies in the form of gazpacho. Today, I am recovering. Enough is enough.
.
Gromit, you do own a vehicle, do you not?
Or can you walk to the corner?
Sallyh
I do have four bottle of warm microbrew, now chilling. It'll quite certainly last the week.
I thought this is what China is for:
Report: Japanese mob boss gave $100,000 to UCLA Medical Center after liver transplant
The donations came from two of four Japanese gang figures who received liver transplants at a time when several hundred Los Angeles-area patients died while awaiting transplants, according to the Los Angeles Times.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/
moc...0_05312008.html
Rrreally, screw em' and never cite them again, maldito Reaganite-funded right-weengnut bullsheet talking-points factory.
Catnip, all around!
in our alphabet, the word 'agape' looks very much like the word 'agape'
Gromit, put them in the freezer for 20 minutes.
This must be Howard Dean's last laugh, so I wonder if Hillary can show how she is half the lady that Howard Dean was the man?
No.
And let me say for the record that I think Harold Ickes is a fucking asshole.
Is Hillary unclean if her advantage in the popular vote is attributable to the help of Republican voters in open primary states?
Does that make her unacceptable?
GWPDA -- I understand that both of us haven't been around much -- UOK?
I'm OK - u Okay? I'm just irritated.
But I do haz Katz moving onto my porch: http://www.gwpda.org/bubba.jpg
fourlegsgood, poseurkryptonite | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 9:52 pm |
fourlegs, Topaz is sleeping on the job again, instead of helping the gurlz with the physics homework.
http://pets.webshots.com/photo/
2...096501088RuuJYS
Yesterday I consumed on the order of half a peck of vegies in the form of gazpacho. Today, I am recovering. Enough is enough.
That's cold.
we're jammin
jammin
He's stupid, fat, ugly and nobody likes him.
fourlegsgood, poseurkryptonite
Sounds like McCain.
Gromit, put them in the freezer for 20 minutes.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
That's another given.
Yesterday I consumed on the order of half a peck of vegies in the form of gazpacho. Today, I am recovering. Enough is enough.
I feel that, man. Been trying to eat really healthy, as in 7 - 9 servings of veggies and fruit a day, low cal, etc. Today, I cheated. Not realy bad, but I cheated. I went out to dinner, had an appetizer, french onion soup, a 6 oz steak (I didn't eat but half of it), and cheesy mashed potatoes.
Ickes use of the term "hijack" is unfortunate.
Needs more vegies?
You know what MLK Fisher said, you don't have to balance each meal, just balance the day. Or the week as the case may be.
Yesterday I consumed on the order of half a peck of vegies in the form of gazpacho. Today, I am recovering. Enough is enough.
Okay. Fair is fair.
And let me say for the record that I think Harold Ickes is a fucking asshole.
fourlegsgood, poseurkryptonite
He didn't acquit himself well today. Good grief, did he come across as way too grabby. He didn't even try to attentuate it a little bit.
fourlegs, Topaz is sleeping on the job again, instead of helping the gurlz with the physics homework.
Oh, noes!!
It looks like teh carrot haz killed Topaz!!
OH NOES!!!!!!!
in our alphabet, the word 'agape' looks very much like the word 'agape'
[jaw drops, lovingly]
Karin, tell me more! (guys, pretending that you're interested is how you pick up chicks -- I learned this from "South Park")
Prior Aelred |
Hope you didn't watch the carpet munching one.
Maybe Ickes is looking for a gig with Pox.
He didn't acquit himself well today. Good grief, did he come across as way too grabby. He didn't even try to attentuate it a little bit.
He's a dick.
I loved it when Wexler handed him his ass.
Is Hillary unclean if her advantage in the popular vote is attributable to the help of Republican voters in open primary states?
Wrong.
Clinton's vote claim doesn't add up
Ickes is an angry little twitch of a man. But he is doing the Lord's work right now, so I will give him a pass.
You know: like Matthews and Olbamamann do every night for the Southside Messiah.
mmmmmm Ron Francis. I would totally do him!
It's worth mentioning that, with the exception of teh Worcestershire sauce, every single last one of those gazpacho vegies came from my back garden.
Pretty kuhl, hunh?
.
Ickes use of the term "hijack" is unfortunate.
Everything about Ickes is unfortunate.
GWPDA -- I am overwhelmed by work & we are having internet problems & my recovery from my broken ankle is no going as well as I had hoped (although I did get to almost 5 mph on my Thursday night run -- first time this year) & I was really depressed when I peaked in at comments earlier today to see how some people here whom I know & love were talking insane -- so there's that ...
Florida's gone for the Democrats. I am certain of that. No matter what else happens in November, McCain wins Floriduh.
Everything about Ickes is unfortunate.
fourlegsgood, poseurkryptonite
not so.
his name is serendipitous.
i liked it better when you didn't go all fucking political.
not...
Wrong.
Clinton's vote claim doesn't add up
She's so full of shit I can't believe it.
Florida's gone for the Democrats. I am certain of that. No matter what else happens in November, McCain wins Floriduh.
How much you wanna bet?
[jaw drops, lovingly]
JeffCO
'
Speaking of jaw dropping, for some reason the left side of my jaw is causing me extreme pain today, I can barely open it. It's probably just some horribly rotten tooth, right? Or is it a symptom of a heart attack or something?
I've got plenty of unexploded cluster bombs in my pants suit for your kids to play with.
Oh, and for those interested - those who have no partisanship? Wexler is teh ass. A lack of consciousness of how to deal with real politics is always very, very foolish. People outside his perceived comfort zone? Not amused.
.
Hi, Atriots. I was doing yard work all day, with breaks to watch the committee meeting. That means I'm physically AND mentally exhausted.
Some of the spectators were just disgusting. They behaved like children. Unruly children.
Gromit, put them in the freezer for 20 minutes.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
but don't forget.
beer really does not make a good slurpie.
Oh my.
That's some first class stupid from Toby.
Mary Tillman coming up on Book TV.
I'll be interested to hear what her sons political views were as reports are that he was moving left...
Nothing wrong with carpet munching (unless you're Hitler, of course -- whoever de gubbmint don't like is always "worse than Hitler!")
Homer sez: Beer Slurpee...ahhhhh.....
Speaking of jaw dropping, for some reason the left side of my jaw is causing me extreme pain today, I can barely open it
the dentist is your friend. why, though, does it always have to happen on a weekend?
How much you wanna bet?
Tubby couldn't find Florida on a map.
"What is this, 20 kwesh-chuns?"
That's some first class stupid from Toby.
I know. He better pace himself...it's a long way til November.
Does that make her unacceptable?
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 9:57 pm |
perhaps she's just a tool, like you, only she's a Senator, unlike you.
That's some first class stupid from Toby.
fourlegsgood, poseurkryptonite
you give him too much credit.
You can say whatever you want abt Mrs. Clinton, but that chick is super-smart. Smart enough to trick people out of thinking she's evil.
But she gets the war and she's a little bit tasty ---as I do go in for the older beauty--- so I am happy to support her and I do not fear her success.
Oh, and for those interested - those who have no partisanship? Wexler is teh ass. A lack of consciousness of how to deal with real politics is always very, very foolish. People outside his perceived comfort zone? Not amused.
Yeah, but he was right today.
(although I did get to almost 5 mph on my Thursday night run -- first
time this year) & I was really depressed when I peeked in at
comments earlier today to see how some people here whom I know &
love were talking insane -- so there's that ...
All true. Did I mention that my back's out? I get on teh treadmill and manage to do my duty, to the tune of 3.4mph for 150calories, but afterwards, not so good. Every time I try to walk my left leg buckles. Gud thing I have the stout walking stick that WoodyGuthrie got me when he went up to Acoma. Have u considered converting to Presbyterianism? It makes things a lot easier!
whiskeyina
The sore jaw is usually a tooth thing. Unless you get pimples, in which case it is an early sign of leprosy.
So, dearie, when is the last time you went to the dentist?
/Dad
And let me say for the record that I think Harold Ickes is a fucking asshole.
I'm inclined to cut him some slack because of he was a real Freedom Rider. But it does run in the family. Clare Boothe Luce once said that his father, Harold L. Ickes had "the mind of a commissar and the soul of a meataxe."
Gromit-
How 'bout that Manny 'mirez?
why, though, does it always have to happen on a weekend?
dirk gently, spiraling
That is funny. I guess it's 'cause, if you're a monday through friday worker, you're slowed down enough I the weekend to actually notice...
whiskeyina -- PUH-LEEZE get that checked! OK? Tooth pain can lead to all sorts of really bad things -- really! I hate having 2 B serious here, but this could be bad!
Whiskey, go pop an aspirin and think abt relaxing with an ice cube on your forehead. Know the truth and the truth shall set you free.
No matter what else happens in November, McCain wins Floriduh.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 10:02 pm | #
No chance. he will lose Arizona as well. And Texas.
She's so full of shit I can't believe it.
Yep.
in which case it is an early sign of leprosy.
not likely. don't go to pieces over it.
(and we call it hanson's disease now)
YOU GO HILLARY - DON'T LET THE MAN STEAL WHAT IS RIGHTFULLY YOURS, RUN INDEPENDENT IF YOU MUST
the dentist is your friend. why, though, does it always have to happen on a weekend?
Murphy.
My first evening as a bachelor, and I have no cold beer. ~ Gromit
What are you celebrating Manny's 500th with?
I can barely open it. It's probably just some horribly rotten tooth, right? Or is it a symptom of a heart attack or something?
WHISKEY! CALL UR DENTIST AND HAVE IT CHECKED! UR HAVING ROOT CANAL PROBLEM! DO THIS NOW! PLEASE?
I'll pay. Call ur dentist.
& I was really depressed when I peaked in at comments earlier today to see how some people here whom I know & love were talking insane -- so there's that ...
How so?
what were they saying?
the mind of a commissar and the soul of a meataxe
THat's beauty.
Dirk:
(and we call it hanson's disease now)
After the boy band?
The sore jaw is usually a tooth thing. Unless you get pimples, in which case it is an early sign of leprosy.
If it's leprosy, then this one's for you.
/Dad
Gromit
Hey, I can't do everything! Yeah, so I do the typical single mom thing and neglect my own health. And the windshield wipers on the car. And the dirt behind the toilet. And...
That is funny. I guess it's 'cause, if you're a monday through friday worker, you're slowed down enough I the weekend to actually notice...
whiskeyina | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 10:06 pm | #
maybe that's why 40% of all sick days are taken on a monday or friday.
40% !
so I am happy to support her and I do not fear her success.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 10:05 pm | #
Now we know why she's losing so badly.
Or is it a symptom of a heart attack or something?
whiskeyina | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 10:02 pm | #
Proceed directly to a medical professional.
Clare Boothe Luce once said that his father, Harold L. Ickes had "the mind of a commissar and the soul of a meataxe."
And I'm to trust the assessment of an Inner Party fascist propagandist like Clare Booth Luce?
Nothing wrong with carpet munching (unless you're Hitler, of course -- whoever de gubbmint don't like is always "worse than Hitler!")
Prior Aelred |
in this case the boys took it literally.
Don't be afraid to call the medics and have their help. That's why you pay taxes, baby.
After the boy band?
Toby Petzold
i wasn't addressing you, dog burner.
I'm inclined to cut him some slack because of he was a real Freedom Rider. But it does run in the family.
I'm not.
He just wants to win and he doesn't give a fuck about what it does to the party or to this country.
First class stupid from a third class mind. Tubby Putzhole is the David Blaine of trolls.
GWPDA -- the trouble with Presbyterianism is that God hates you (which is what you deserve, of course)
But I love you & Karin & whiskeyina (who needs to get that pain checked, OK?)
How 'bout that Manny 'mirez?
bill buckner
As the Brits would say, "Well struck, sir!"
I've only spotted two Orioles fans in the stands.
17 shots on goal for the game. Jeesuz.
That's the best quote evah.
But she gets the war
The fact that she 'gits it' is a large part of why she got beat.
70% of the country wants out of Iraq. The only dumbasses that support that crap are also the dead enders that support Bootsy.
You're part of an 'elite' group Tubbs.
paul young wrote the leprosy song.
can't go on sayin' the same thing
'Cause baby, can't you see, we've got everything goin' on
And On and on
Every time you go away you take a piece of me with you
Every time you go away you take a piece of me with you
Cialis commercials while watching TV with 13YO daughter. Nice.
Okay, everyone. I'll call the dentist. Monday. If it still hurts.
Whiskey, go pop an aspirin and think abt relaxing with an ice cube on your forehead. Know the truth and the truth shall set you free.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 10:06 pm | #
There you go, all of Toby's ignorance and arrogance in one mind-boggling ego-trip.
Toby will never be free, given his ignorance of the truth.
Kangsadarn Wongdusadeekul is crowned Thailand's most beautiful transvestite. Next goal: win the World's Silliest Name contest
(we hasten to add, having examined written Thai, that the submitter who wrote that ought to be glad [s]he didn't have to mess with tones or the deeply counterintuitive Thai alphabet)
whiskeyina, you haven't stepped on any rusty nails lately have you?
Kangsadarn Wongdusadeekul
Pronounced "Raymond Luxury-Yacht."
I've only spotted two Orioles fans in the stands.
Yeah, what's up w. that? Are they all out partying with Boog Powell, or what?
Kangsadarn Wongdusadeekul is crowned Thailand's most beautiful transvestite.
Can we all chip in for a one way ticket for a certain troll?
fourlegs, Topaz is sleeping on the job again, instead of helping the gurlz with the physics homework.
Oh, noes!!
It looks like teh carrot haz killed Topaz!!
OH NOES!!!!!!!
fourlegsgood, poseurkryptonite | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 9:59 pm |
She survived to sleep another day.
Alright, sleep tight bats.
I'll call the dentist. Monday. If it still hurts.
no no! if it doesn't hurt monday, it's because it is waiting for next weekend to roll around.
call, call.
whiskeyina, you haven't stepped on any rusty nails lately have you?
dirk gently, spiraling |
I did think of lock jaw! But that would probably be both sides, right?
What?
What's that?
Did somebody say "Brazilian shemale?"
I thought I heard something...
“We are in the strongest conceivable position electorally and not in a good fix with the superdelegates, because they have felt all the pressure from the Obama side, from the media, from the MoveOn crowd — who they think is an automatic ATM machine for everybody for life."
Bill Clinton can suck my cock after I tell Toby he can go.
GWPDA -- the trouble with Presbyterianism is that God hates you (which is what you deserve, of course)
Damned Piskies. G_d does not hate us - He is merely dubious as to whether we've been listening. Don't forget that we are the ones who have acquired Teh Reasonable Faith. And that is indeed, exactly what we deserve.
I did think of lock jaw! But that would probably be both sides, right?
whiskeyina
i'm not a doctor, although i'd like to play one on tv
Call the dentist. Calling can't hurt (or cost). Most practices have someone on call who can open the office for an emergency.
Many, if not most of the Eschaton female posters, I have no idea whatsover what they look like, yet they turn me on.
Sock it to ME!
Okay, everyone. I'll call the dentist. Monday. If it still hurts.
In the meantime, get yourself a very warm cup of very salty water, swish some around, spit, and repeat until the whole cup is gone.
Then, if you have any hydrogen peroxide around, finish off by swishing around a big mouthful of that.
If it's a tooth, that'll kill off some of the germs causing the gas pressure that's creating the pain. It'll help.
paul young wrote the leprosy song.
can't go on sayin' the same thing
'Cause baby, can't you see, we've got everything goin' on
And On and on
Every time you go away you take a piece of me with you
Every time you go away you take a piece of me with you
dirk gently, spiraling | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 10:11 pm | #
I thought Daryl Hall wrote that one.
4lg -- certain persons were outraged that the votes of Michiganians were not going to count -- it was undemocratic -- when it was pointed out that Michiganians didn't believe their votes were going to count, this was ignored -- it was suggested that there should have been a do-over, Obama was blamed for not supporting it -- when it was pointed out that the decision was made by Terry Lynn Land, the Republican Secretary of State, it was said that Republicans should not have a say (ignoring the fact that that is the way things are) -- obviously, Senator Clinton should be the nominee even though she ran a terrible campaign & cheated & still lost -- btw -- U R beautiful, 2 -- I'm sorry we had no chance to visit at EschaCon08
I thought Daryl Hall wrote that one.
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins
could be. google came up with paul young, but maybe he just did a cover.
thanks, montag. i will. i've been swishing around my jasmine tea...
Grrrrrr.
Clove oil is good for the pain, Whiskey.
So is whiskey...
"We are beautiful - so we have no need to be soldiers," ("Nonk" or Kangsadarn Wongdusadeekul ) said, getting the biggest laugh of the night.
Fat ugly Americans grimly look forward to generations of needing to be soldiers.
Cool. New spongebob episodes next week.
So is whiskey...
Elias |
I haven't got any 
I thought Daryl Hall wrote that one.
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins
could be. google came up with paul young, but maybe he just did a cover.
dirk gently, spiraling | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 10:16 pm | #
Paul just covered it, H&O did the original.
thanks, montag. i will. i've been swishing around my jasmine tea...
Along the same lines, an aspirin/hot water swish should help the pain, too, if you have just plain aspirin in the house. You could probably use children's aspirin in a pinch.
Ok, really going to sleep now.
A good, really a life friend of mine, is retiring from the US Army as a full bird next year. He was an Airborne Ranger in Iraq I.
He told me "Luckily, I wasn't asked to be a stupid kid in this one."
Weird laws from New Zealand: Shopkeepers have to
use red ink to write the price on magazines they sell, you have to
notify the government of any uranium you find, and the government can
legally plow through your garden to build a canal
Go ahead and flame me, but I think Harold Ickes was right today when he said that you can't count uncommitted votes for Obama.
Obama wasn't on the Michigan ballot. Just as you can't turn water into wine, you can't turn uncommitted votes into votes for Obama.
It's a very poor precedent. It would have been better to not seat Michigan at all.
I haven't got any...
(Points catapult in the direction of Western MA.) Catch!
Clove oil is good
Paul Young was just wonderful -- I loved that song -- I wish Paul Young had been a commercial success (maybe I would have heard more good songs)
I didn't MIND Hall and Oates, but they sound like a breakfast cereal
Paul just covered it, H&O did the original.
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins
interstingly, there's also a clay aiken version that says "originally recorded by paul young."
but i'm sure you are correct.
Mary Tillman is a fucking hero...
It's a very poor precedent. It would have been better to not seat Michigan at all.
That might have made things worse. I imagine Hillary continuing her campaign under the banner of Seat Michigan.
MP, you know what I look like.
You're very kind.
(Points catapult in the direction of Western MA.) Catch!
bill buckner |
Thanks!
Sallyh!
just remember: temporary pain remedies for toothaches are just that. temporary.
with that, i'm off to bed. next week is going to be a bad one, i'd better sleep while i can.
What exactly is the delegate count now. The stupid news channels are only yammering about Obama resigning from his church.
Book TV is playing a joke on us tonight.
Mary Tillman followed by T. Friedman...
Hey TOW, hope you had a good day
Vicki --
OF COURSE MI SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN SEATED -- lots of Dems voted for Mitt because we were told that our votes wouldn't count!
FL was different, but the MI delegates should NEVER have been counted -- if the Dems can't even run their own party, who will trust them to run the country?
good night, dirk. sweet dreams.
The magic number is now 2,117 to win the thing.
What exactly is the delegate count now. The stupid news channels are only yammering about Obama resigning from his church.
See dKos.
interstingly, there's also a clay aiken version that says "originally recorded by paul young."
Clay's gon' be a daddy.
Singer Clay Aiken is having a baby with his best friend, music producer Jaymes Foster.
A spokesman for Foster's music mogul brother, David Foster, has confirmed that Jaymes, 50, became pregnant through artificial insemination and is due to give birth to the 29-year-old "American Idol" star's child in August.
Good site. Very objective. Shows very clearly Hillary's electoral advantage. Very detailed:
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/
I'm guessing artificial insemination is as close as Clay Aiken is gonna get to a vagina.
Shows very clearly Hillary's electoral advantage.
You're full of shit, meatball.
Clinton's vote claim doesn't add up
Dang! That gordon smith is sure one sleazy slimy slug baiter!
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/
Elias | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 10:24 pm | #
You're delusional. All indices on that site are pro-Obama.
I don't want to scare you, Duncan, but didn't you just eat at this guys restaurant:
But this time Mr. Santamaría got personal. He singled out Ferran Adrià, godfather of the Spanish (and global) avant-garde movement and the country’s most celebrated chef, for criticism. Despite his “enormous respect” for Mr. Adrià, he said he felt “a huge divorce, both ethical and conceptual with Ferran, who I feel is headed in a direction that is contrary to my principles.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/0...=rssnyt&
emc=rss
There's some discussion about liquid nitrogen and methyl cellulose used in food prep.
Screw Obama and Clinton, Malkin was tackled in front of the net and should have had a penalty shot, and Crosby has only played 15 minutes.
Good site. Very objective. Shows very clearly Hillary's electoral advantage. Very detailed:
I'm sure the good people at Taylor Marsh or Corrente would find this very interesting.
I had a productive day, Sallyh. The back yard has been tamed. Sort of.
There's more to do tomorrow, but it looks 1000% better than yesterday. All spring the only time I had to mow it was raining. If the weather was good, I was too busy. It was kinda junglelike.
This stupid fucking occupation in Iraq needs to end in Jan, 2009. Or at least start to end.
Fuck.
Clinton's vote claim doesn't add up
Whiskeyina, it could be a TMJ problem, too. Aspirin is recommended as a first aid as it has anti-inflammatory properties.
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/
Elias | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 10:24 pm | #
You're delusional. All indices on that site are pro-Obama.
true story | 05.31.08 - 10:27 pm | #
Well, it shows that both candidates beat McCain...
Screw Obama and Clinton, Malkin was tackled in front of the net and should have had a penalty shot, and Crosby has only played 15 minutes.
Malkin tackled Rachel Ray earlier...
Well, it shows that both candidates beat McCain...
NTodd, Pink Poseur | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 10:28 pm | #
you could beat McCain.
Obama wasn't on the Michigan ballot. Just as you can't turn water into wine, you can't turn uncommitted votes into votes for Obama.
Ah, this seems to ignore the context. Obama wasn't on the final primary ballot because he withdrew his name when the DNC refused to acknowledge the Michigan primary date. Otherwise, all other things being equal, he would have been on the ballot, and he would have accrued some votes, and therefore, some delegates.
HRC chose to stay on the ballot (likely with the intention of making an issue of it later). In fact, she was the only one on the Dem ballot, yes? All others had complied with the DNC's ruling.
Unfortunately, this idiocy of wanting to jump the gun on other states is at the root of the problem. It gains nothing (and, in the case of Michigan, holding the primary in the dead of fuckin' winter only self-suppresses turnout).
You're delusional. All indices on that site are pro-Obama.
true story
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Bullshit. Double-check, it's got pretty colors so you can understand better...
Whiskeyina, it could be a TMJ problem, too. Aspirin is recommended as a first aid as it has anti-inflammatory properties.
Ah, TMJ. Stef had that...
HRC chose to stay on the ballot (likely with the intention of making an issue of it later). In fact, she was the only one on the Dem ballot, yes? All others had complied with the DNC's ruling.
DK and Gravel were also on the ballot.
It shows Hillary has the greater electoral margin. It shows she has a better chance in Ohio and Florida...
Whiskeyina, it could be a TMJ problem, too. Aspirin is recommended as a first aid as it has anti-inflammatory properties.
Ah, TMJ. Stef had that...
I needed braces to help mine. I still get a popping sound.
It's a very poor precedent. It would have been better to not seat Michigan at all.
true, but the hrc supporters would not have stood for it, so this compromise was the best they could do. Obama gets the "prize" of the uncommitted voters, and Clinton gets her votes that were not supposed to be counted.
I think seeing the sausage actually made on TV is a good lesson.
I think that making a 72 year old man, who is showing clear signs of losing it, to be the Commander in Chief, is nothing short of reckless.
Obama's resignation is bound to make him look like a dumbass who can't defend anything he does except by blaming others.
Joining a church is a choice. He made political choice of it. That's pretty fucking low in my book.
Well, it shows that both candidates beat McCain...
NTodd, Pink Poseur
you could beat McCain.
true story
My DOG could beat McCain.
My 18-1/2 year old dog who's senile.
Just as you can't turn water into wine, you can't turn uncommitted votes into votes for Obama.
The thing is, Hillary's stupidity has done just that. If she succeeds in having another vote it'll be for Obama by an embarassing margin.
Malkin tackled Rachel Ray earlier...
I'm calling bullshit. Ain't no way Magalagadangatobydingdong could touch Rachael.
Bullshit. Double-check, it's got pretty colors so you can understand better...
Elias | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 10:29 pm | #
They don't seem to be having that affect on you. Are you color-blind as well as Really Fucking Stupid?
Ah, this seems to ignore the context.
No, it doesn't. You can't count something that doesn't exist.
I'm neither an Obama nor a Clinton supporter; I don't have passion in this fight, but no one has offered, to my mind, a compelling argument as to how you can count votes that weren't cast because the primary was flawed.
I agree with Vicki, turning uncommitted delegates into Obama delegates doesn't really make sense.
However I suspect that many of the people picked as "uncommitted" in the various post-vote convention meetings lean heavily to Clinton.
This is the good Malkin, Evgeni, not the freak Michelle.
Yay, 5 on 3.
Tubby the Putzhole, the authority on low.
My DOG could beat McCain.
My dogs' shit could beat McCain.
That's pretty fucking low in my book.
When's the last time you read a book?
DK and Gravel were also on the ballot.
So in other words Nader might as well've been on it.
Actually 538.com doesn't show a clear advantage over McGoo for either BHO or Hillary.
Joining a church is a choice. He made political choice of it. That's pretty fucking low in my book.
Little Boots got Billy Graham to vet him. Bootsy said he never get out-Jesused again.
That's lower than you, whale shit.
Joining a church is a choice. He made political choice of it. That's pretty fucking low in my book.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 10:30 pm | #
speaking of pictures...
no one has offered, to my mind, a compelling argument as to how you can count votes that weren't cast because the primary was flawed.
It does strike me as creation ex nihilo...
Whiskeyina, it could be a TMJ problem, too. Aspirin is recommended as a first aid as it has anti-inflammatory properties.
Echidne
You know, Echidne, this sounds like it could be it. I do have chronic pain in my left ear. And I did chew a lot of gum the other night while I was doing paperwork. Hmmm...
but the hrc supporters would not have stood for it,
They didn't like it, anyway.
We could have revoted, but the legislature was against it. What Prior said upthread. All very crazy.
Well, it is WAY too late for me, but I would just like to point out that Jaymes Foster would not have had to rely on artificial insemination if she wanted to have MY child!
And good night!
The slimemold living in your toilet tank could beat McCain.
Look at Mrs. Clinton's math. She leads only if you give her 328,000 votes for the Michigan primary election, while giving Mr. Obama zero for not being on the ballot.
~~~~~~~~~~
Meaningless either way because the primary was flawed. The only way to know the truth is to revote which is over. The question will always remain, what if...
O's numbers will likely go up once he's rid of, uhem, distractions.
In fact, she was the only one on the Dem ballot, yes? All others had complied with the DNC's ruling.
Wrong. On both counts.
Appearing on Michigan's Democratic ballot were: Hillary Clinton, Chris Dodd, Mike Gravel and Dennis Kucinich.
Further, there was nothing from the DNC nor the four-state "pledge" that required candidates to remove their names from Michigan's ballot.
Those who did remove their names were: Joe Biden, John Edwards, Barack Obama and Bill Richardson. They did so to kiss ass in IA/NH/SC and NV. Presumably, there was something to be gained in those four states by shitting on Michiganders. So, perhaps we should have re-votes in those four states, or divine what the votes in those four states would have been had these guys chosen to remain on Michigan's ballot?
Stupid, isn't it?
Oh, and not that it matters, but Dennis Kucinich tried to remove his name from Michigan's primary ballot, but filed his papers too late.
DK and Gravel were also on the ballot.
So in other words Nader might as well've been on it.
Uh, no, because see, he's not a Democrat.
My 18-1/2 year old dog who's senile.
Terry C - Overeducated Liberal | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 10:30 pm | #
McCain's Veep has been found!
DK and Gravel were also on the ballot.
Okay, I stand corrected. But, the issue remains the same. Had the DNC not declared the primary invalid for failure to abide by DNC rules, Obama's name, along with most others, would have been on the ballot, would have campaigned in the state, and the vote totals would have been markedly different than they were under the created circumstances....
-- obviously, Senator Clinton should be the nominee even though she ran a terrible campaign & cheated & still lost -- btw -- U R beautiful, 2 -- I'm sorry we had no chance to visit at EschaCon08
Why thank you sir.
but the hrc supporters would not have stood for it,
They didn't like it, anyway
oh my gosh, really?
I've been out all day. When I saw the headline that she got +24 today that seemed to me a big win for her.
And I did chew a lot of gum the other night while I was doing paperwork. Hmmm...
And it feels like you can't open it all the way? Sure sounds like a TMJ thingy to me.
In MI, there was a huge effort to get people to vote uncommitted, if they weren't for Hillary, and hope that it got sorted out later. There was no other way to vote for Edwards or Obama or any other Dem not on the ballot.
Edwards dropped out and asked his delegates to support Obama, so why is giving the uncommited dels to Obama such a sore point? It make sense to me.
I think that making a 72 year old man, who is showing clear signs of losing it, to be the Commander in Chief, is nothing short of reckless.
MP
I agree. My dad is 72. He sends the girls movies and he's started sending movies that he's sent before...
I would astoundingly more trust Dennis Kucinich with the button, than I would John McCain.
Uh, no, because see, he's not a Democrat.
I see NTodd has resorted to using facts again.
Bastard.
Rachel Ray has ninza ginzu knife skills. Don't mess with her.
Meaningless either way because the primary was flawed. The only way to know the truth is to revote which is over. The question will always remain, what if...
Elias | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 10:33 pm | #
Meaningless is what your whining and crying is. Why don't you stop being such a crybaby?
Further, there was nothing from the DNC nor the four-state "pledge" that required candidates to remove their names from Michigan's ballot.
~~
Thank you.
For those who think "rules are for little people", what if CA in 2012 decides that each voter should get a delegate?
And a puppy?
And it feels like you can't open it all the way? Sure sounds like a TMJ thingy to me.
Echidne
Yes, that's just how it feels.
Rachel Ray has ninza ginzu knife skills. Don't mess with her.
sekmet | 05.31.08 - 10:36 pm | #
She'll go all EVOO on your ass.
Obama also had 30,000 write-in votes on the MI ballot, even though voters were instructed repeatedly that all write-in ballots would not count.
Meaningless either way because the primary was flawed. The only way to know the truth is to revote which is over. The question will always remain, what if...
Ever hear of the superdelegates?
Do you understand the concept, you stupid fucking douchebag?
Jesus tits.
oh my gosh, really?
I've been out all day. When I saw the headline that she got +24 today that seemed to me a big win for her.
As her rep on at the hearing said today, she wants it ALL.
The only thing that would have satisfied her was if they had declared her the nominee.
Meaningless is what your whining and crying is. Why don't you stop being such a crybaby?
true story
~~~~~~~~~~`
The only tears I see are the ones on the faces of the mothers who's kids will die if Obama loses.
Do you understand the concept, you stupid fucking douchebag?
Jesus tits.
Now now...
Obama also had 30,000 write-in votes on the MI ballot, even though voters were instructed repeatedly that all write-in ballots would not count.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 10:37 pm | #
well, by elias's and toby's "rules", obama should be declared President For Life on that basis alone.
I'm neither an Obama nor a Clinton supporter; I don't have passion in this fight, but no one has offered, to my mind, a compelling argument as to how you can count votes that weren't cast because the primary was flawed.
Think of it this way. The goal was for Michigan delegates to be able to attend the convention, because they are a big important state, so in the absence of a valid vote, there was an arbitrary assignment of the delegates to the 2 remaining candidates.
Fuck, McCain has already made clear he has a hard-on for Iran. Before he would even take office.
That's crazy.
Clinton is just a whiny ass titty baby.
The only tears I see are the ones on the faces of the mothers who's kids will die if Obama loses.
Elias | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 10:39 pm | #
And you're prepared to let that happen. hypocrite.
The Delegate Musical Chairs game is worse than the superbowl. First we get weeks of pregame bullshit, then the bullshit game and now the postgame bullshit.
Think of it this way. The goal was for Michigan delegates to be able to attend the convention, because they are a big important state, so in the absence of a valid vote, there was an arbitrary assignment of the delegates to the 2 remaining candidates.
And that works for me because the whole primary system is artifice.
Ever hear of the superdelegates?
Do you understand the concept, you stupid fucking douchebag?
Jesus tits.
billy b
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hillbilly man-tits, make up your mind. First discount the supers, now you're all for it. You're just trying to find something to shout about.
Sox win. Gromit sleeps. G'nite.
Fuck, McCain has already made clear he has a hard-on for Iran. Before he would even take office.
That's crazy.
MP | 05.31.08 - 10:39 pm | #
He gets this Manchurian Candidate/early stage dementia glint in his eyes when he mentions war. Any war.
We really have to win this.
You're just trying to find something to shout about.
Elias | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 10:41 pm | #
Put down the mirror and stop lying, you piece of shit.
The only tears I see are the ones on the faces of the mothers who's kids will die if Obama loses.
Elias | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 10:39 pm | #
And you're prepared to let that happen. hypocrite.
true story | 05.31.08 - 10:40 pm | #
Clearly. Babble, babble, bitch, bitch, it's all YOUR fault if Obama loses because he's somehow magically flawed and nobody listened to me and damn if I'm gonna work hard to make sure McCain doesn't win so I can tell you the blood's on your hands but not mine.
And you're prepared to let that happen. hypocrite.
true story
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You're prepared to try your luck with a damaged candidate.
Good fucking luck...
McCain has already made clear he has a hard-on for Iran. Before he would even take office.
The only response to any fear-mongering about another war launched by the U.S. is: "you and what army"?
We have no more troops, and our dollar is now at peso-levels.
That's crazy.
McCunt's crazy.
Time for the daily meltdown I see.
You know the real irony in all of this? Saddam Hussein would probably have dropped a dime on Osama bin Laden in a second for us.
The goal was for Michigan delegates to be able to attend the convention, because they are a big important state, so in the absence of a valid vote, there was an arbitrary assignment of the delegates to the 2 remaining candidates.
Yes, I get that. I just think it's too bad it had to happen this way. I loved watching Levin today make his case, though.
I can see all sides, but I think it's unfortunate all around. Hopefully, the powers that be will learn from this fiasco.
Maybe I'll go feel good with a megaphone in my hand...
Yeah. That will change things...
Time for the daily meltdown I see.
This is very funny, actually.
The only response to any fear-mongering about another war launched by the U.S. is: "you and what army"?
Who needs troops when you got all those nukes in those silos in middle america, just begging to be used?
Remember...it was "bomb, bomb, bomb iran." Not invade and occupy iran.
Yup, he's gonna do jack shit. How predictable.
Good fucking luck...
Elias | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 10:42 pm | #
well, with assholes like you in the way, it looks like you're more interested in talking about preventing death than doing anything about it. Typical, you lazy, hypocritical shit.
'The Delegate Musical Chairs game is worse than the superbowl. First we get weeks of pregame bullshit, then the bullshit game and now the postgame bullshit.'
And no 'wardrobe malfunction' during the halftime show to liven things up.
make up your mind. First discount the supers, now you're all for it. You're just trying to find something to shout about.
Who are you mistaking me for, meat puppet?
You know the real irony in all of this? Saddam Hussein would probably have dropped a dime on Osama bin Laden in a second for us.
Not if he still committed that sin of taking euros for oil.
Thanks for reminding me that you know every fucking thing about every fucking thing, including me...
We have no more troops, and our dollar is now at peso-levels.
Bombing, not troops.
If it happens at all.
Edwards dropped out and asked his delegates to support Obama, so why is giving the uncommitted dels to Obama such a sore point? It make sense to me.
And seeing that Kucinich, Gravel & Dodd were on the ballot, the only remaining possibilities for uncommitted were Richardson and Biden.
Hopefully, the powers that be will learn from this fiasco.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 10:43 pm | #
I agree with the sentiment, Vicki, but I don't think it's likely.
We all remember what happened in 2000, right? We had the spectacle this year of the DNC telling Florida Democrats "we will not count your votes."
Beyond retarded.
The London transport system was heavily disrupted late Saturday as thousands of revellers held an unauthorised "drinks party" on underground trains before an alcohol ban went into effect.
The key Circle Line which serves some of the capital's most exclusive districts was shut down as thousands of people gathered for a booze-up on Tube trains after being rallied by social networking websites.
"There are problems on the Circle Line and it has been stopped," a London Transport Police spokesman said.
David Mudkips, a 25-year-old computer programmer, described the experience on one of the trains packed with revellers as: "Like rush hour but fun. There were people's sweaty armpits in my face but I didn't care because I was drinking."
Police made at least six arrests as the behaviour of the crowds became increasingly boisterous.
Thousands of people had signed up for the party on Facebook sites with names like "The Booze Tube" and "One Final Tube Booze Party".
From Sunday, anyone caught drinking from, or even carrying, open containers of alcohol will be ejected from trains and buses.
You're prepared to try your luck with a damaged candidate.
Good fucking luck...
Elias | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 10:42 pm | #
And you're prepared to try your luck with the biggest target you can run, one Hillary Clinton, the most hated figure the right has ever seen? You're still the very stupidest moron to ever visit this blog.
Yup, he can't admit it and needs to lash out.
Clearly. Babble, babble, bitch, bitch,
Meat puppet's taken to making up narratives.
The idiot's a bad parody trool. Can't keep its story straight.
Why didn't you just say it was you, ronjizz, so I could discount you're rantings sooner?
Jeez, why can't everybody just be friends?
I don't like Pierre MacQuire, whoever the fuck he is.
I realize that sounds stupid and random but I thought that was the theme.
the only remaining possibilities for uncommitted were Richardson and Biden.
Karin, the Draft Gore movement was encouraging people to vote Uncommitted for Al Gore, too. They halted their efforts before the primary, but I know people who went ahead and voted Uncommitted for Gore.
You're prepared to try your luck with a damaged candidate.
Good fucking luck...
Elias | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 10:42 pm | #
And you're prepared to try your luck with the biggest target you can run, one Hillary Clinton, the most hated figure the right has ever seen? You're still the very stupidest moron to ever visit this blog.
true story | 05.31.08 - 10:46 pm | #
Oh yeah, Obama's DAMAGED! Because, uh...he won the Democrat [sic] nomination! But Hillary won't have any trouble at all! Damn, why didn't we listen to his wise council?
S in Mich, I don't think I've seen you here in ages.
We have no more troops, and our dollar is now at peso-levels.
The value of the dollar doesn't matter to the Pentagon--they seem to have, thanks to a corrupt Congress and a world willing to loan us money--an inexhaustible supply of them.
The Air Force is champing at the bit on this one. There are Air Medals to be won, dammit! There are careers to made!
And, the Air Force has lots of bomber excess capacity for this sort of mission.
Most of us realize there is great potential for undesirable unanticipated consequences, but, that's not the way these guys think. Technological superiority breeds unwarranted optimism.
Making up narratives is what speculating about a primary is. Actually working to make the primary real is something you could ask NTodd about because he's very active and has spent a lot of time fighting to make the MI and FLA revotes happen.
S in Mich, I don't think I've seen you here in ages.
Karin Hussein | 05.31.08 - 10:47 pm | #
Just popping in, briefly. Trying to decide if I just undervote or crossvote for president this year.
Vicki, I was going to add a footnote to my comment about Gore, but got lazy.
This is very funny, actually.
Echidne
I agree.
This one attempts to play the game. It's pathetic, but amusing.
undesirable unanticipated consequences
Not the military's problem.
Most of us realize there is great potential for undesirable unanticipated consequences, but, that's not the way these guys think. Technological superiority breeds unwarranted optimism.
Plus it'll royally piss off the Islamic world, just at a time where violence from Islamic radical groups is losing steam, according to the New Yorker.
I hope Barack joins Ziggy Stardust's Church of Mad Love.
Poor Elias, doesn't know whether to shit or go blind, nor who he's whining at. Straw men and red herrings, specialty of the House Of Stupid.
Oh yeah, Obama's DAMAGED! Because, uh...he won the Democrat [sic] nomination! But Hillary won't have any trouble at all! Damn, why didn't we listen to his wise council?
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Gee, history shouldn't be a guide for the all knowing.
McGovern. Dukakis. No. Democrats never make deadly mistakes.
Karin, You know how itis with me and that Gore thing.
I don't know why I need to fight to make MI and FL revotes happen. I don't think they need to happen, despite Vicki and Sinf being disenfranchised. If they think they should occur, that's their business being in those states.
Then again, I should listen more to the man who wants to set himself on fire to fight for mascot justice...
Trying to decide if I just undervote or crossvote for president this year.
Four More Years!
Wings beat the Penguins!
Oh oh...
it'll royally piss off the Islamic world, just at a time where violence from Islamic radical groups is losing steam
That's the point. Can't have an endless GWOT without pissed-off Muslims.
Oh yes, now because its candidate wasn't selected, clearly it's the damaged one...
Oh oh is right. Wings 3-1 in the series.
Actually working to make the primary real is something you could ask NTodd about because he's very active and has spent a lot of time fighting to make the MI and FLA revotes happen.
Watch out little buddy, the meat puppet's trying to separate you from the herd.
I don't know why I need to fight to make MI and FL revotes happen.
You don't, darling.
It was already tried, and it failed.
I live my values every day. Even with what I put in my mouth. Why don't you eat your cats and dogs, situationist?
Let's Go Red Wings!!
Watch out little buddy, the meat puppet's trying to separate you from the herd.
Yes, it's very cute, innit?
That's the point. Can't have an endless GWOT without pissed-off Muslims.
Funny thing...it won't be Muslims, but the rest of the world seeing the US just flat-out nuking a non-aggressive country. We'll get isolated for decades.
Evening, all
Oh yes, now because its candidate wasn't selected, clearly it's the damaged one...
meat puppet's candidate has been selected all right.
John Sidney McCain't is the republic nominee for pretzeldent.
McGovern. Dukakis. No. Democrats never make deadly mistakes.
Elias | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 10:50 pm | #
There was nothing wrong with either of those candidates. Their campaigns were faulty, and the Republicans left no filthy move unused, nor no vote unstolen. But either one would have been a vast improvement over the repuke. Clinton? There is some question.
Pretty sad when you have to point out you are making a joke since in the past you have posted this kind of garbage about the Clintons and it wasn't a joke
too late and you are not funny
Oh, now it's trying to make an issue of veganism and somehow acting as though I don't live my values...
You know the real irony in all of this? Saddam Hussein would probably have dropped a dime on Osama bin Laden in a second for us.
MP | 05.31.08 - 10:42 pm | #
Yep.
There's no herd small enough for his over-inflated ego...
Evening, all
DWD - S☮S
Oh hi DWD, imagine you being here. Yes, I am in a foul mood.
6.8 quake hits Taiwan, according to MSNBC.
the US just flat-out nuking a non-aggressive country.
I doubt if nukes would be used.
I don't like Pierre MacQuire, whoever the fuck he is.
He is a hockey analyst and former coach whose words on all aspects of hockey are like the holy grail to the sports jocks who populate the radio and tv sports channels up here in Canada. I find him usually to be pretty right on in his assessments of players and teams.
I live my values every day. Even with what I put in my mouth. Why don't you eat your cats and dogs, situationist?
Even considering the source, this is bone-numbingly stupid.
I live my values every day. Even with what I put in my mouth. Why don't you eat your cats and dogs, situationist?
Elias | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 10:52 pm | #
Straw pets and red herrings, again.
There's no herd small enough for his over-inflated ego...
Looking in the mirror are you, dingleberry?
I doubt if nukes would be used.
I was thinking those smaller tactical ones that burrow into the ground and explode.
Clinton? There is some question.
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Yes, and yet she still fares better with the, eee gads, not the dreaded white vote? The demographic that actually determines these sickening portrayals of elections.
Camelot,
Well, if it is any consolation: so am I. That was the WORST officiating. The worst announcing. And one of the worst performances in a major game I have seen.
I simply could not believe how one-sided the game was called on the air and on the ice.
But the Wings won.
I was thinking those smaller tactical ones that burrow into the ground and explode.
Anon | 05.31.08 - 10:56 pm |
Nu'clear gophers.
No goal on a 5 on 3! Power play sucked! These guys need their asses kicked, and I'm just the woman to do it.
Right, I'm the one with the ego. Because I...uh, what exactly?
You know the real irony in all of this? Saddam Hussein would probably have dropped a dime on Osama bin Laden in a second for us.
MP
Would it have been that Bootsy, Pork Chop, and the rest of the neocons would have wanted to take out bin Laden.
I love the "Obama is damaged" meme.
Hillary and her henchmen did everything they could to damage him and now they scream, "HE'S BROKEN!! HE CANNOT WIN!!"
but in spite of their best efforts, he's still standing
Yes, and yet she still fares better with the, eee gads, not the dreaded white vote? The demographic that actually determines these sickening portrayals of elections.
Elias | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 10:57 pm | #
It's not the 50s any more, boyo. And the white assholes on the Repuke side hate her more than Muslims.
BONGOS!
... and a cat!
.
Did you like Malkin being tackled in front of the net?
We all have egos. It's just that some are bigger than others.
Right, I'm the one with the ego. Because I...uh, what exactly?
Because you're an asshole, of course.
Hillary and her henchmen did everything they could to damage him
OMG! You really think the GOP is going to be as fair to Obama as HRC was?
You are gonna be pissed....
We all have egos. It's just that some are bigger than others.
Elias | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 10:59 pm | #
Is the sky blue? Is grass green?
You're really stupid. Deeply stupid.
But of course.
Of course, I enjoyed seeing Ron Francis but it will take me a while to calm down now.
Right, I'm the one with the ego. Because I...uh, what exactly?
Because you're an asshole, of course.
fourlegsgood, poseurkryptonite
~~~~~~~~
I WILL NOT STAND FOR THIS!!!
I'll just sit and watch.
Popcorn anyone?
You are gonna be pissed....
S in Mich | 05.31.08 - 11:00 pm | #
Do you think they're going to be kind to Clinton? Are you deranged? he has at least stood up to them.
Good night, moonbats.
Be nice to each other, m-kay?
Peace.
NBC hockey coverage sucks. I wish I still lived in Detroit so I could watch hockey night in Canada.
all those white folks would be surprised to find what all's in their blood lines.
Congratulations Wings,
but its the LAST GAME THAT YOU WILL WIN.
"Be nice?"
What's that?
You know the real irony in all of this? Saddam Hussein would probably have dropped a dime on Osama bin Laden in a second for us.
I actually think he would have needed a quid pro quo, like lifting sanctions. But then, yes, he would have done it.
All you guys know what really happened.
Leave him in the senate:
http://www.prospect.org/cs/
artic...vice_presidency
... and a cat!
"Brick wall! I must think of a brick wall!"
Jeesuz Gomez, what the hell, is it the coaching?
but in spite of their best efforts, he's still standing
Cat's thriving.
Breaking big.
Which is why the likes of Peehole and meat puppet are posting reams and reams of fairy tales, lies, more lies, and bullshit about the man.
Their masters are skeert shitless of a pissed off Democratic Congress and a president that is too.
Oops.
"Brick wall! I must think of a brick wall!"
LOL.
Jeesuz Gomez, what the hell, is it the coaching?
camelot, Go Pens
Thierrien will put the fear of God in them tomorrow.
Congratulations to the Penguins. You have done well to make it this far. I think in the coming years you will have some excellent teams and I look forward to the coming realignment and a great rivalry to come between Detroit and Pittsburgh.
But at this point I do not believe the Penguins are as good as the Wings. I think, in the future they may be as good or better, but not now. Too many weaknesses.
I was thinking those smaller tactical ones that burrow into the ground and explode.
Contrary to popular opinion, they don't exist. The closest thing to what you describe is a B-61 Mod 11. Variable yield, so the explosion can be as low as 0.4Kt, but only capable of burrowing into the ground perhaps 15-18 feet.
Which means it doesn't do anything but shake the shit out of deeply-buried facilities and kicks up huge amounts of dirt which then comes back in the form of fallout. A very dirty and ineffective weapon, overall.
Let's face it, the whole notion of using "tactical" nuclear weapons against hardened targets in non-nuclear states is to normalize their use in combat. And that means if there's no immediate data indicating destruction of the targets, they'll escalate the kilotonnage of the weapons used.
And if there's anyone in this government who can convince the Boy Prince that their use is a good thing, it's Cheney.
armando (bigtentdemocrat) is crazy:
Atrios writes:
Deep Thought
Your candidate's supporters suck.
Here is a deeper thought -- your candidate NEEDS the sucky supporters of the other candidate to win in November.
Will the Dems learn this anytime soon?
All you guys know what really happened.
Boy, you sure are strident.
No one wants the Wings to win.
The NHL wants Crosby to hoist the Cup.
Deal with it Wings fans.
Your team is boooring and faceless.
Expect even worse officiating.
For all disgruntled dems who say they will not vote for Obama or will vote mcstain, remember this: Supreme Court, Roe v. Wade, a woman's right to make decisions about her own body---gone with the mcstain.
Their masters are skeert shitless of a pissed off Democratic Congress and a president that is too.
~~~~~~~~~~
You're fucking joking, right?
The Dems have had how long to end this fucking war?
Look, if you don't understand the distinction between liberalism and leftism, I can't help you. There's more than one way to criticize the center, neophyte...
But at this point I do not believe the Penguins are as good as the Wings
Accept your fate now.
Let's face it, the whole notion of using "tactical" nuclear weapons against hardened targets in non-nuclear states is to normalize their use in combat. And that means if there's no immediate data indicating destruction of the targets, they'll escalate the kilotonnage of the weapons used.
And if there's anyone in this government who can convince the Boy Prince that their use is a good thing, it's Cheney.
montag
Exactly and well said. Cheney and Rumsfeld want to break the taboo of nuclear weapons so they can nuke things.
OK. Game's over. What did I miss out on here?
'evenin'
Obama's done nothing but gain stature as he campaigns. The Republicans will indeed trash him--my recurrent thought is that they're looking for a sullied white vagina, even as we speak--but they'd trash any Democrat, any one at all. Hell, they trashed a war hero's service record while running a deserter themselves.
I said in February that I'd vote happily for either Clinton or Obama over any conceivable Republican. I say tongiht I'll happily vote for Obama over McCain.
Let's-Go-Red-Wings!!
Which means it doesn't do anything but shake the shit out of deeply-buried facilities and kicks up huge amounts of dirt which then comes back in the form of fallout. A very dirty and ineffective weapon, overall.
Let's face it, the whole notion of using "tactical" nuclear weapons against hardened targets in non-nuclear states is to normalize their use in combat. And that means if there's no immediate data indicating destruction of the targets, they'll escalate the kilotonnage of the weapons used.
And if there's anyone in this government who can convince the Boy Prince that their use is a good thing, it's Cheney.
Well, yeah...I didn't say their attack plan would be rational.
I want Boosh removed via the 25th before he can pardon everybody.
The NBA wanted Celts/Lakers and they got it. They made sure they got it. They screwed the Spurs, and made sure Lebron got hacked to death.
The last thing they wanted was Spurs/Pistons, or Spurs/Cavs...
the whole notion of using "tactical" nuclear weapons against hardened targets in non-nuclear states is to normalize their use in combat.
A two-edged sword. If we use nukes just once under any circumstances whatsoever proliferation will be unstoppable, as will nuclear use by other countries. The people in uniform realize that even if Cheney doesn't give a shit.
Look, if you don't understand the distinction between liberalism and leftism, I can't help you. There's more than one way to criticize the center, neophyte...
Elias | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 11:06 pm | #
You're so ridiculous, as if the Dems had the votes they need to stop a republican congress more juiced on illegal moves than Barry Bonds. You're a fucking idiot.
I'll watch Thomas Friedman now and then just kill myself and get it over with...
For all disgruntled dems who say they will not vote for Obama or will vote mcstain, remember this: Supreme Court, Roe v. Wade, a woman's right to make decisions about her own body---gone with the mcstain.
With respect to almost everybody here, I think you're preaching to the choir.
I actually think he would have needed a quid pro quo, like lifting sanctions. But then, yes, he would have done it.
Karin Hussein
We went charging into Iraq, all fucking strong and ignorant as shit.
Um, don't um turn on uh CSPAN-2 unless, you, uh, want to, um, see, uh, Thomas um Friedman.
Um.
Your team is boooring and faceless.
Expect even worse officiating.
Gomez
Yes, we did notice the officiating. Glad you did as well. But even with Pittsburgh given carte blanche to obstruct, hold, hold the stick, and trip at will: they still could not win. Think about that.
The problem is that your two stars - about whom everyone in the league is raving - are simply NOT as good as Zetterburg and Datsyuk. When you thrown in all world defenseman Lidstrom, Rafalski, Kronwall, and Stewart and their speed, skill, and grit in the rest of their forwards: Pittsburgh is found lacking. (And Osgood is playing one HELL of a playoff. His GAA is less than 1.4 and that is damned good)
'Tactical' nuclear weapons have higher yields than those used against Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
It would be an obscenity remembered for a thousand years to reintroduce nuclear weapons into war fighting. It would destroy what little is left of the United States' international credibility as a civilized state. It would gain us the well-deserved opposition on everything from war and peace to peanut tariffs. It would do nothing less than destroy this country.
You're prepared to try your luck with a damaged candidate.
Good fucking luck...
Elias |
Oh, PLEASE STFU!
I'll watch Thomas Friedman now and then just kill myself and get it over with...
Elias | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 11:09 pm | #
Please.
What did I miss out on here?
aangus: Go, Wings, Go! |
Oh, nothing.
I hate your candidate, you ass.
Your candidate is a bitch.
more of the same
and then the usual, trolls trying to prove their manhood by getting into a battle of wits with NTodd.
Kee-rist anybody with half a gourd at the time knew this was a bad moon rising.
Went and found this quote in one of my posts:
"There have been many voices across the political spectrum calling for Rumsfeld's resignation for the botched Iraq war [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], yet he "retains the full confidence" of Bush. Why? Because Rumsfeld cannot be fired until he demolishes the "nuclear taboo," by detonating a small tactical nuclear weapon against an enemy. The U.S. military is reluctant to even consider the use of nuclear weapons against Iran, because it would provoke "an outcry over what would be the first use of a nuclear weapon in a conflict since Nagasaki." Only after a small tactical nuclear weapons strike against Natanz or another Iranian facility will this barrier fall, and Rumsfeld's transformation will be a fait accompli.
Why is "downsizing" the military so important to the PNAC crowd? Because the American public has no stomach for a draft nor large losses of American military personnel. If it becomes possible to wage war "on the cheap," without the loss of American life, and in the process we can lower the price of oil and spread "liberty" across the world, opposition will be muted. Public opinion on the Iraq war was not turned by the enormous number of Iraqi lives lost (of which there isn't even an effort to keep a count); it is only affected by the number of American lives lost."
A two-edged sword. If we use nukes just once under any circumstances whatsoever proliferation will be unstoppable, as will nuclear use by other countries. The people in uniform realize that even if Cheney doesn't give a shit.
That "people in uniform" isn't a blanket. The Air Force has more than its share of crazy fucks that would take such an order and run with it. And you can take that to the bank.
the distinction between liberalism and leftism
LIBERALS are DANGEROUS!
Is "Hot, Flat and Crowded" supposed to remind me of "Fat, drunk and stupid"?
Because it does.
With respect to almost everybody here, I think you're preaching to the choir.
I'd like to think so.
...and not aggravate the shit out of pissants like jizz and hillbilly?
IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE!!!!
What exactly does "damaged candidate" mean?
I think the officiating sucked both ways, thanks.
What exactly does "damaged candidate" mean?
Think John Sidney McBush III
Kee-rist anybody with half a gourd at the time knew this was a bad moon rising.
And, in the words of the song, "there's a bathroom on the right."
What exactly does "damaged candidate" mean?
I dunno, someone who's closely tied to a President with approval ratings in the 20's?
What exactly does "damaged candidate" mean?
cahuenga
basically, anybody who believes the glass is half full is by definition, damaged
What exactly does "damaged candidate" mean?
"The one that's not mine."
Damaged candidates for a damaged nation...works for me...
IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE!!!!
Elias | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 11:13 pm | #
Simple pleasures for the simple-minded. Elias js a six-year-old without the maturity.
It would destroy what little is left of the United States' international credibility as a civilized state. It would gain us the well-deserved opposition on everything from war and peace to peanut tariffs. It would do nothing less than destroy this country.
ProfWombat
We would become a rogue nation. And be invaded by Canada. Who would hold a war crimes tribunal! And Bush and Cheney, their entire administration and the PNAC group would be thrown into jail!!
In Abu Ghraib!
Youtubed every hour!
I owe cosmosis a fizzy beverage!
You certainly are quick on the draw.
What exactly does "damaged candidate" mean?
Nothing much. It's just a phrase that gets repeated over and over with rising voice inflections until everyone is convinced of its truthiness.
That "people in uniform" isn't a blanket. The Air Force has more than its share of crazy fucks that would take such an order and run with it. And you can take that to the bank.
montag
surely you don't think that some air force command (Minot) would load nukes on b-52's and stage them?
What exactly does "damaged candidate" mean?
Not Dennis Kucinich, clearly.
What exactly does "damaged candidate" mean?
Nothing much. It's just a phrase that gets repeated over and over with rising voice inflections until everyone is convinced of its truthiness.
Sufferin' Blessed Succotash | 05.31.08 - 11:16 pm | #
It's Elias-speak for "scary black dude".
Well, if you keep kicking the other candidate in the shins, he will be damaged.
And pissed off.
wait wait WAIT!
There's a Black Dude running?
It's just a phrase that gets repeated over and over with rising voice inflections until everyone is convinced of its truthiness
Yeah, that's pretty much what I thought.
Holy shit. Have y'all see what Larry Johnson is claiming at his blog?
Obama's done. Especially once people find out what Dean and Pelosi's DNC did to Michigan.
That "people in uniform" isn't a blanket. The Air Force has more than its share of crazy fucks that would take such an order and run with it. And you can take that to the bank.
montag
surely you don't think that some air force command (Minot) would load nukes on b-52's and stage them?
1Watt, Hermit
The creepy Christianists who want to activate the Rapture? There's a load of them in the Air Force Academy.
It would destroy what little is left of the United States' international credibility as a civilized state. It would gain us the well-deserved opposition on everything from war and peace to peanut tariffs. It would do nothing less than destroy this country.
"Depressions are when assets are returned to their rightful owners."
--Andrew Mellon
The Air Force has more than its share of crazy fucks that would take such an order and run with it. And you can take that to the bank.
Given the religious orientation around Colorado Springs these days, that's no suprise. But I'll bet the Jack D. Ripper types would be more interested in using those new conventional bunker busters, just to see what kind of BOOM they make.
don't give a fuck what the republican spooks thing you dummy
Holy shit. Have y'all see what Larry Johnson is claiming at his blog?
Obama's done. Especially once people find out what Dean and Pelosi's DNC did to Michigan.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 11:18 pm | #
Nobody goes to that blog, or yours. I wonder why?
And be invaded by Canada.
I'd defect immediately.
ellroon: the US and NATO didn't renounce a potential first use of nuclear weapons, facing the Red Army across the Fulda Gap. Nothing new, sadly, about this. Rumsfeld and his ilk have been around since 6 Aug 1945. It's more than a little frightening to read of how JF Kennedy had to restrain the likes of Curtis LeMay and Maxwell Taylor.
A near thing, a very near thing, and oft forgotten. Hell, our current presidential press secretary holds her job after demonstrating ignorance of the Cuban missile crisis.
This administration has so diminished the phrases "take up the uniform" and "in harm's way" that there needs to be a roped off section of hell for them.
But I'll bet the Jack D. Ripper types would be more interested in using those new conventional bunker busters, just to see what kind of BOOM they make.
Yes, very possibly, but that just confirms the scenario of auto-escalation previously described.....
The creepy Christianists who want to activate the Rapture? There's a load of them in the Air Force Academy.
ellroon bitterful
and the pentagon, and boykins(sp), and Iraq chaplain corps....
Comment by Elias blocked.
"Gee, it's nice out."
"Yes, I think we ought to leave it out..."
there needs to be a roped off section of hell for them.
MP | 05.31.08 - 11:21 pm | #
The "A" List
Right this way Dana....
Camelot,
That five on three call was one of the WORST calls I have ever seen in my life.
In hockey the five on three is a call that should only be made for the flagrant foul. The interference call that was made was hardly that. If it was a penalty at all. (I don't believe it was - if it was, it was of the variety that had not been called on either team)
From an experienced hockey person's perspective it had the look of a "Catch-up" penalty. This is a time for the home team (who could not skate with the visiting team 5-5 and could not over-match the visiting team 5-4 needed an extra boost to even the game out so they gave them 1:27 - a time ALMOST UNHEARD OF - to catch up.)
And they still could not. When they could not, the game was effectively over, btw.
It's more than a little frightening to read of how JF Kennedy had to restrain the likes of Curtis LeMay and Maxwell Taylor.
A near thing, a very near thing, and oft forgotten. Hell, our current presidential press secretary holds her job after demonstrating ignorance of the Cuban missile crisis.
ProfWombat
My daughter watched 13 Days in her history class. That movie helps you realize how close we came to nuclear devastation.
(But this is the same history class where the teacher is sure that Communism is the worst horror in the world and Socialism and Liberalism are right behind...)
And be invaded by Canada.
sadly they don't want us.
What, we're invading? Oh hell, somebody start the truck, I'll look for the gun.
Obama's done. Especially once people find out what Dean and Pelosi's DNC did to Michigan.
Rightards spend SO much of their lives in wishful thinking.
Go to Arlington one day. They bury 20 per day. I don't care if you hate the military, or whatever.
Just go watch one of those ceremonies.
the US and NATO didn't renounce a potential first use of nuclear weapons, facing the Red Army across the Fulda Gap.
Not exactly the same situation as the US versus Iran. Soviet conventional superiority always made NATO first use a possible option. It had to be under the circumstances, and the fact had to be made known to the Soviets. Which is probably why nothing happened in the Fulda gap for 40+ years.
And be invaded by Canada.
sadly they don't want us.
1Watt, Hermit
If we asked really nicely?
Remember Northwoods?
ellroon: the excellent 20th c. history teacher my daughter had in HS told me that her students had a harder time emotionally with nuclear weapons issues sometimes than they did with anything else, even the Holocaust/WW II or the horrors of Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot.
And be invaded by Canada.
I kan haz health insurance?
A near thing, a very near thing, and oft forgotten. Hell, our current presidential press secretary holds her job after demonstrating ignorance of the Cuban missile crisis.
ProfWombat
My daughter watched 13 Days in her history class. That movie helps you realize how close we came to nuclear devastation.
ellroon bitterful
Many of us here LIVED through the Cuban Missile Crisis.
If it wasn't an interference call then, then it shouldn't have been an interference call on Jordan Staal earlier in the game that gave Detroit the penalty they scored on.
The diving penalty on Talbot was ridiculus when your goalie did it twice in one game and WE got called for a penalty on it.
I agree the officiating is horrible.
Good one from the Irish Bacon Eater:
I don't know where anyone ever got the idea that the Internet should be a place for the reasonable exchange of ideas between people of differing political beliefs, but such an idea is in my experience misguided at best and at worst actively dangerous. "Civility" is not a virtue in itself, but a mechanism, a way of facilitating discourse: when someone is determined to say any fucking shit they want as a way of getting whatever they want and to loudly insist that they are in the right just because the other side is mean and vulgar when they point out, accurately, that they are little more than a vicious gang of crazy-assed lying motherfuckers... well, fuck civility. Truth is a higher virtue by several orders of magnitude.
Earlier in the day, however, Mrs. Bacon Eater REALLY fucking nailed it.
Sufferin': not the same at all; didn't mean to imply that it was. But a lot of these guys grew up thinking they'd use nukes first if they had to. Some saw it mostly as a deterrent. Some were pit bulls barely restrained from eating a passing kindergartner.
her students had a harder time emotionally with nuclear weapons issues sometimes than they did with anything else, even the Holocaust/WW II or the horrors of Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot.
By "harder time emotionally" do you mean a harder time accepting the reality of nuclear weapons or a harder time dealing with the possible consequences of nuclear weapons.
An inquiring history teacher wants to know...
ellroon: the excellent 20th c. history teacher my daughter had in HS told me that her students had a harder time emotionally with nuclear weapons issues sometimes than they did with anything else, even the Holocaust/WW II or the horrors of Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot.
ProfWombat |
Good to know that some kids realize what would happen if we set off the mushroom cloud...
My daughter watched 13 Days in her history class. That movie helps you realize how close we came to nuclear devastation.
I would be the last one to minimize the severity of the Cuban missile crisis (I was on an Air Force base as it was happening--wanna understand what Hoyt Axton meant by people walkin' around with tombstones in their eyes?), but, from a diplomatic perspective, it was managed reasonably well. What the public did not know at the time was that the Russians knew they were horribly outgunned, and they were nervous as hell about our Thor missiles on their border in Turkey. There were built-in points for negotiation.
If we asked really nicely?
ellroon bitterful
have to lift the lumber tariff first.
Then there was the defenseman slapping Crosbys broken stick in front of him when he was going for the puck, which should have been a penalty shot, but wasn't.
And be invaded by Canada.
I kan haz health insurance?
Karin Hussein
I wants me a Mountie!
Terry C , Overeducated Liberal,
Mrs DWD and I discussed this issue tonight (remember she is non-political and sensible member of the family) When I explained what it was really all about - people going to the convention. She said, "Well, I guess they get to go now. That's good although I really don't care. And both candidates got some votes? I would have liked to see them split them 50/50. You sure Edwards couldn't get any?"
No remorse. No bitterness. No anger. She is the person on the graphic, supposedly. College educated, Professional woman, 55 years old, married, and the rest. (She likes Obama because he appears "Smart" to her and she has had enough of dumb with Bush.)
Some saw it mostly as a deterrent. Some were pit bulls barely restrained from eating a passing kindergartner.
Yep.
I would be the last one to minimize the severity of the Cuban missile crisis (I was on an Air Force base as it was happening--wanna understand what Hoyt Axton meant by people walkin' around with tombstones in their eyes?), but, from a diplomatic perspective, it was managed reasonably well. What the public did not know at the time was that the Russians knew they were horribly outgunned, and they were nervous as hell about our Thor missiles on their border in Turkey. There were built-in points for negotiation.
montag
Jesus, montag. You really saw it up close and personal.
I was being told hiding under my school desk would let me survive the nuclear blast...
Sufferin': the reality of nuclear weapons, the consequences of their use, and their continued presence. The notion that nuclear weapons would end the world as we know it, that a single ballistic missile submarine can wipe out a continent within an hour. Freaks 'em out. As well it fucking should freak out every last living, breathing human being.
Then there was the defenseman slapping Crosbys broken stick in front of him when he was going for the puck, which should have been a penalty shot, but wasn't.
camelot, Go Pens
See! THat is exactly what I am talking about. The IGNORANT and STUPID announcer blew that call completely. He did not shoot it in front of him. He threw it toward the corner. The player was Kris Draper - number 33. He is a CENTER not a D. He made a smart play and did the THING you are supposed to do in that situation. YOu cannot have something in front of the net area that might deflect the puck.
But the announcer is too stoopit to realize that the player did the right thing and said something ridiculous. . . .
ARGHHHHHHHHH!
What do you medical types call numbness caused by prolonged exposure to vibration?
.
Many of us here LIVED through the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Moi, I was 12 living outside Atlanta, with lots o' trains coming through with shit for the military buildup in South Florida. Gonna invade Cuber!
And be invaded by Canada.
I kan haz health insurance?
Karin Hussein
I wants me a Mountie!
If your new Canadian overloads don't find your handsome, they should at least find you handy.
(She likes Obama because he appears "Smart" to her and she has had enough of dumb with Bush.)
DWD - S☮S |
I'm sick to death of my country being knee-deep in STOOPID.
I am frustrated with the Penquins play myself but c'mon, you're just talking crazy. Some of what you said I can agree with and then there is the rest....
The problem is that your two stars - about whom everyone in the league is raving - are simply NOT as good as Zetterburg and Datsyuk
Really? How many Hart trophies do they have?
Zetterberg and Datsyuk are ham and eggers. Lidstrom is the star.
I actualy went over to see what Larry J was up to. You don't want to know, trust me.
I was being told hiding under my school desk would let me survive the nuclear blast...
If you had extra pencils in your desk, in an era before graphite, you would be fine.
If voters were required to watch the puzzlement on the faces of the young families left behind at Arlington, this shitass occupation would end tomorrow.
An inquiring history teacher wants to know...
Sufferin' Blessed Succotash
When I was in junior high school I read, in succession, Alas Babylon, Fail Safe, and On the Beach.
I could NOT sleep without a flashlight on for months. Scared teh shit out of me
As well it fucking should freak out every last living, breathing human being.
Betcher ass. Particularly since all that nuclear winter business came out back in the mid-80s, about how just a few hundred of those things could trigger a climate change that would wipe everything out. So much for "limited" nuclear war.
Its tough to type with all this blood on my hands.
Scared teh shit out of me.
No wonder.
Somebody just googled "can a silicone dildo leak dangerous toxins" and got my blog.
Hmmm...
Zetterberg and Datsyuk are ham and eggers. Lidstrom is the star.
As a Blackhawk fan, I can say with confidence that Pavel Datsyuk is a lot more than a "ham and egger." And Zetterberg is also very good.
Where's that fucking potty mouth Thers?
Gomez,
I called in it in four or five. I stand by what I said before they dropped the puck, eh?
As a Blackhawk fan, I can say with confidence that Pavel Datsyuk is a lot more than a "ham and egger." And Zetterberg is also very good.
DJ
Both will fade quickly. Crosby and Malkin will be playing for another 15 years.
montag: it should never have come close to armed confrontation on the high seas, in violation of international law, an act of war, involving opposing nuclear arsenals on hair trigger alerts. This was diplomatic malfeasance of the highest order, that, with a single act of a single human being under stress or acting from insane conviction, would have wiped out tens of millions of lives. Especially, as you point out, that there were carrots and sticks available to bandy about at a negotiating table.
Fail Safe
That literally kept me awake, too.
Alas Babylon, not so much--survivalist happy ending and all.
On The Beach left me thinking, well we're all dead anyway so what happens to a bunch of Aussies is pretty academic, mate.
I was being told hiding under my school desk would let me survive the nuclear blast...
Funny thing about that. I spent my whole life up to the age of eighteen on or near SAC bases. Never did I go through a "duck-and-cover" drill. We were always at ground zero, so what the fuck difference would it have made?
It's one of those oddities that has confirmed in my mind that such drills were meant to indoctrinate an entire generation, to convince them that the threat was enormous and almost inevitable.
Those drills were much less about preserving the society than they were about creating a siege mentality in society.
I called in it in four or five. I stand by what I said before they dropped the puck, eh?
DWD - S☮S
Don't expect the Pens to fold. Not with this coach. And Crosby has another level you have not seen yet.
If you had extra pencils in your desk, in an era before graphite, you would be fine.
NTodd, Pink Poseur
So that weird kid who kept eating his pencils would have lived through the blast unscathed?...
Okay, I'm going to bed; I'll dream of Ron Francis, he's hot.
I'm passing the baton, Gomez, you're up. Give 'em hell.
Where's that fucking potty mouth Thers?
Prolly over at the Lake. This is about the time he makes a post over there. Should be here soon.
Both will fade quickly. Crosby and Malkin will be playing for another 15 years.
That's bitterness talking.
Besides, Zetterberg looks like an fucking ape.
Not what the NHL is selling.
I love this song. I first heard it when I was visiting a friend in Calgary back in 2002:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m...h?
v=mqg8YLHlQJc
Read all those. By far the scariest and best written book of the sort was, to my taste, the far less well-known 'Level 7', by Mordecai Rashwold.
That's bitterness talking.
DJ
I've already turned to guns and religion.
Those drills were much less about preserving the society than they were about creating a siege mentality in society.
montag
Kinda like creating a color code to show how fearful we should be? Like creating a department of Homeland security? Like harassing people at airports and at borders to hand over their papers?....
he Russians knew they were horribly outgunned, and they were nervous as hell about our Thor missiles on their border in Turkey. There were built-in points for negotiation.
montag
Placing those missle on their border was why they wanted their missiles on our border.
The last thing they wanted was Spurs/Pistons, or Spurs/Cavs
What helps is the fact that the Cavs, Pistons and Spurs weren't good enough to beat the Celtics or Lakers.
But blame the refs and the NBA if it makes you feel better.
Prolly over at the Lake. This is about the time he makes a post over there. Should be here soon.
There's a freaking schedule?
Many of us here LIVED through the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Actually, technically, everyone lived through the Cuban missile crisis.
Gretzky didn't get into the finals until his 5th year in the league and the Islanders then swept the Oilers 4-0. Crosby's only in his 3rd year. It would be great if his team could emulate the success of the super talented Oilers of Gretzky and Messier and Fuhr.
It is much more pleasant to argue about hockey officiating than the Groundhog Day primary.
'Those drills were much less about preserving the society than they were about creating a siege mentality in society.'
Absolutely. Obey the authorities, who have the right to ask you to do even utterly nonsensical rituals. Not unlike much of the 'security theatre' of these fraught times.
What do you medical types call numbness caused by prolonged exposure to vibration?
.
Jeffraham Prestonian
turnoffisthevibratorist.
Actually, technically, everyone lived through the Cuban missile crisis.
Shared Humanity
Not really.
Some people died in car crashes, from heart attacks, jealous lovers etc.
So not everyone who was around at the start made it to the end.
'Those drills were much less about preserving the society than they were about creating a siege mentality in society.'
Absolutely. Obey the authorities, who have the right to ask you to do even utterly nonsensical rituals. Not unlike much of the 'security theatre' of these fraught times.
ProfWombat
Absafuckinglutely.
There's a freaking schedule?
I did use the word about.
Ha. I was right.
http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/3...-about-f-words/
'Level 7' is available in reprint from Amazon. Don't read it if you don't want to be very disturbed.
http://www.amazon.com/Level-7-Li...12291611&sr=8-
1
Gretzky didn't get into the finals until his 5th year in the league and the Islanders then swept the Oilers 4-0. Crosby's only in his 3rd year. It would be great if his team could emulate the success of the super talented Oilers of Gretzky and Messier and Fuhr.
It would be interesting to see. The salary cap will play a big part, though. For example, Pittsburgh will have to re-sign Hossa. If they don't, that's a BIG hit.
The NHL needs Crosby hoisting the Cup this year, not some faceless muckers and grinders no one cares about.
Especially if they want a better TV contract.
Those drills were much less about preserving the society than they were about creating a siege mentality in society.
montag
It's worked pretty well in Israel.
No doubt that the refs in the major pro sports are mostly serial blunderers, but the NBA refs take the cake, even the ones who don't gamble on the games they ref.
Many of us here LIVED through the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Actually, technically, everyone lived through the Cuban missile crisis.
Shared Humanity
You know what I meant.
Osgood is the difference. And he was the backup to future Hall of Famer Hasek.
Ha. I was right.
http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/3...-about-f-words/
aangus: Go, Wings, Go!
That's why I asked "Where's that fucking potty mouth Thers?" needs some pats on the back for a job well done.
It would be interesting to see. The salary cap will play a big part, though. For example, Pittsburgh will have to re-sign Hossa. If they don't, that's a BIG hit.
DJ
They only have to keep Stahl, Fleury, Crosby and Malkin.
This has been the most covenient war I've ever witnessed.
WWII wasn't convenient, there were 4 hundred thousand Americans killed in that one. Plus you had to grow Victory Gardens, and cheat in order to get a good cut of rationed beef.
Vietnam wasn't convenient. Fifty two thousand young men and women were slaughtered, many of who didn't even want to go.
Chimpy had us shop more.
You know what I meant.
Terry C - Overeducated Liberal | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 11:47 pm | #
Just being a smart ass.
Kinda like creating a color code to show how fearful we should be? Like creating a department of Homeland security? Like harassing people at airports and at borders to hand over their papers?....
ellroon bitterful
Let's not forget the plastic sheets and duct tape.
The NHL needs Crosby hoisting the Cup this year, not some faceless muckers and grinders no one cares about.
Especially if they want a better TV contract.
The NHL needs either Gary Bettman to pull his head out of his ass, or a new commissioner altogether, if they want a better US TV contract.
Where's that fucking potty mouth Thers?
Calming Molly down?
(runs out of the room)
Chimpy had us shop more.
MP
Not only that, but before its over I'll qualify for the senior discount at Bob Evans Reataurants.
Osgood is the difference. And he was the backup to future Hall of Famer Hasek.
cosmosis
Fleury made better saves. Fleury has yet to have a goal go in off his ass like Osgood
You know what I meant.
Terry C - Overeducated Liberal | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 11:47 pm | #
Just being a smart ass.
Shared Humanity
Oh, I know.
I forget the winking emoticon.
Gomez: Good thing my interest as a Red Wing fan is not the same as the NHL's interest in marketing. If Crosby loses the pencil mustache, his stock might go up.
ProfWombat, I read Level 7 as a teen. And yes, it's disturbing as hell.
This has been the most covenient war I've ever witnessed
That's because the war is over. It's an occupation.
Gomez: Good thing my interest as a Red Wing fan is not the same as the NHL's interest in marketing. If Crosby loses the pencil mustache, his stock might go up.
cosmosis
Playoff beard. It will be gone next week after he's hoisting the Cup.
If Crosby loses the pencil mustache, his stock might go up.
That's his playoff beard. He's young, so it isn't a good one, but props to him for growing one.
Don't expect the Pens to fold. Not with this coach. And Crosby has another level you have not seen yet.
Gomez
Crosby will not score another goal and the games will end Monday.
I am sorry, Zetterburg and his supermodel girlfriend really don't need much of anything from Pittsburgh. And Crosby? He may be good some day. Right now he is a baby trying to play a man's game.
Its tough to type with all this blood on my hands.
Gomez
~~~~~~~~~~~
Hockey Puck...
montag: it should never have come close to armed confrontation on the high seas, in violation of international law, an act of war, involving opposing nuclear arsenals on hair trigger alerts.
Oddly enough, all of the threatening stuff came about because of a strange confluence of events. First, Francis Gary Powers pretty much guaranteed that overflights of the Soviet Union were dead in the near term. The satellite program which evolved out of the so-called Explorer project from the 1958 Geophysical Year didn't really get onto track until 1961 or so, and the principal focus was on the Soviet Union.
So, the CIA (which was responsible for photo-analysis then) just wasn't looking at Cuba until it was nearly too late. There were no satellites then which could track shipping real-time, as now.
But, what set off the real trouble was that when the CIA found something they didn't like on Cuba, they sent out a U-2 to take pictures. Cuban air defenses shot down that plane. All of a sudden, they went apeshit, because if Cuban air defenses were able to shoot down a U-2, they might well be able to shoot down anything sent to destroy the missile installations. The choice of action was between an embargo at sea, or a massive air and ground attack, and the embargo at sea won out as the least provocative of all-out war.
Playoff beard
It aint helping. Shave it now and the Pens might lose in six instead of five.
I am SOOOOO glad I kept my Manny Ramirez rookie card. Mint.
And Crosby? He may be good some day. Right now he is a baby trying to play a man's game.
DWD - S☮S
He led the league in scoring last year and would have done it this year if he didn't get hurt.
And Pittsburgh would have had home ice and the President's trophy too.
ProfWombat, I read Level 7 as a teen. And yes, it's disturbing as hell.
Reading that The Road back to back is grounds for some kind of Toughman award. It's like the literary UFC or something.
Playoff beard
Ted Haggard plays hockey??????
The NHL needs either Gary Bettman to pull his head out of his ass, or a new commissioner altogether, if they want a better US TV contract.
DJ
WORD.
I get so tired of the stupid rule changes and the selective enforcement and the ridiculous scheduling and the and and and and and
(How can it possibly be that the finalists for the Stanley Cup did NOT even play each other this year? That's some good marketing there, eh?)
I am SOOOOO glad I kept my Manny Ramirez rookie card. Mint.
Elias
Smartest thing you've said tonight.
G-g-g-g-go H-H-H-H-H-H-Harold I-I-I-I-I-Ickes!
Obamagasmics stealing the nomination!
(How can it possibly be that the finalists for the Stanley Cup did NOT even play each other this year? That's some good marketing there, eh?)
That'll change next year. Each team will play every other team at least once.
'The choice of action was between an embargo at sea, or a massive air and ground attack, and the embargo at sea won out as the least provocative of all-out war.'
Or, a phone call to the Soviet Union, saying that we'd take the Thor missiles out of Turkey--they were obsolescing anyway--if they'd take the missiles out of Cuba. Which happened anyway. After the world had the absolute living shit scared out of it for a week or two.
The NHL needs Crosby hoisting the Cup this year, not some faceless muckers and grinders no one cares about.
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Exactly why the NBA screwed the Spurs. They had to have a fashionable matchup, especially after the referee scandal. They made sure of that. The main thing was get the Lakers in.
What helps is the fact that the Cavs, Pistons and Spurs weren't good enough to beat the Celtics or Lakers.
But blame the refs and the NBA if it makes you feel better.
Certainly there wasn't bad reffing in the Celts' series. Mebbe Lakers vs Spurs, but still, a good team overcomes that shit and never lets it get close enough to matter...
(How can it possibly be that the finalists for the Stanley Cup did NOT even play each other this year? That's some good marketing there, eh?)
Not mention the games played on the Golf channel or wherever the hell they were.
This has been the most covenient war I've ever witnessed.
WWII wasn't convenient, there were 4 hundred thousand Americans killed in that one. Plus you had to grow Victory Gardens, and cheat in order to get a good cut of rationed beef.
Vietnam wasn't convenient. Fifty two thousand young men and women were slaughtered, many of who didn't even want to go.
Chimpy had us shop more.
MP
I have a pic to go with your statement...
Smartest thing you've said tonight.
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Why thank you.
You are now once again my favorite Canadian. Next to Neko Case, of course...
The Esteemed Marsupial, MDJD, has mail.
Exactly why the NBA screwed the Spurs. They had to have a fashionable matchup, especially after the referee scandal. They made sure of that. The main thing was get the Lakers in.
The Spurs are old and tired. They couldn't beat the Lakers. Had nothing to do with conspiracy theories.
Overview for The Seventh Victim (1943)
Brief Synopsis:
A girl's search for her missing sister puts her in conflict with a band of satanists.
With Beaver's dad and Kim Hunter, on TCM.
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He led the league in scoring last year and would have done it this year if he didn't get hurt.
And Pittsburgh would have had home ice and the President's trophy too.
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All right, truth time. That is because they play in the pitiful EAST. Move out and play Anaheim and Colorado and Vancouver and Dallas and Detroit and the fine young Chicago team and Minneapolis and Nashville. Yes, Barry Trotz is my choice for coach of the year because he took a decimated line-up and made them into contenders.
Right down the line, the Western teams are simply better than the Eastern teams. Whether is the Ducks or the Stars or the Sharks or the Wings or the Hawks . . . If Pittsburgh had a steady diet of those teams it is doubtful they would even win their division. (I seriously doubt they could beat Nashville in a seven game series)
That'll change next year. Each team will play every other team at least once.
DJ
Does that involve each team playing a couple more regular season games and a couple less pre season exhibition games?
4Legs, how are you and girls?
Lubyanka | 05.31.08 - 11:55 pm |
A special hockey-themed edition of I Love Luby tonight. In "Pucks and Blades," Brian Hardig tries to get back on Janet's good side by taking her to a Columbus Blue Jackets game. He fucks up yet again by leaving the tickets back home in Cincinnati. Janet, however, catches the eye of the Jackets, and gets in for some one-on-one ice time. What really catches her eye are those razor-sharp skates....
But blame the refs and the NBA if it makes you feel better.
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Was that the NBA that had to apologize for the Barry non-call? And that should have apologized for 6 others?
I think she really did run out of the room...
Night all. Busy day tomorrow.
"Carol McCain is my enemy"-John McCain
"Mebbe Lakers vs Spurs, but still, a good team overcomes that shit and never lets it get close enough to matter..."
That flagrant call on PJ Brown was pretty bad, so was the offensive foul on Paul Pierce that wiped out a potential four - point play.
Celtics won anyway, as the good teams always do, despite bad officiating.
A special hockey-themed edition of I Love Luby tonight.
I LOVE how you punk Brian daily!
Does that involve each team playing a couple more regular season games and a couple less pre season exhibition games?
No, fewer divisional games and intra-conference games. For example, Chicago will definitely play Montreal and Toronto next year, but not necessarily home-and-home. Once each.
Now's about the time for a new Ech thread...
I'm so old I can remember when the NHL had six or seven teams:
Rangers
Red Wings
Black Hawks
Canadiens
Maple Leafs
Bruins
Pre-1967 expansion
I LOVE how you punk Brian daily!
Prof Wagstaff is the master in that regard.
Celtics won anyway, as the good teams always do, despite bad officiating.
Amen.
Was that the NBA that had to apologize for the Barry non-call?
Even Popovich said it was a good non - call. Barry should have taken the contact, instead of dribbling away from it.
Obamagasmics stealing the nomination!
Lubyanka
Yep.
A bunch of aging liberal hippie douche dirty fucking hippies stealing the nomination for an inadequate black male.
It's gonna be a hell of a legacy, and history making event.
s h e e t z
I'm so old I can remember when the NHL had six or seven teams:
Me too: Delvecchio to Howe!
What's the deal with this Hardig character? What name does he use? It's so confusing...
Always seems odd to me that the NFL plays hockey these days in towns that never, ever see an iced-over lake or pond.
I remember when the MLB only about 16 teams.
"As the economy begins to fall apart, Republicans are finally trying to create some distance between Bush and themselves"
When I was watching Judgment at Nuremberg today and saw the part where people denied belonging to the Nazi party, I couldn't help but think of all the people who will be denying that they voted for or supported George Wanker Bush.
I'm so old I can remember when the NHL had six or seven teams
First hockey game I ever went to was in the 1968-1969 season. Hawks vs Blues at Chicago Stadium. If you ever wondered what the Roman Colosseum was like, the Stadium was pretty close.
Obamagasmics stealing the nomination!
Lubyanka
Fuck off, brian!
Or, a phone call to the Soviet Union, saying that we'd take the Thor missiles out of Turkey--they were obsolescing anyway--if they'd take the missiles out of Cuba. Which happened anyway. After the world had the absolute living shit scared out of it for a week or two.
Well, "a phone call" might be over-simplifying. Remember that we'd been, thanks to the likes of LeMay and McCarthy and their ilk, demonizing the Soviet Union for, by that time, seventeen years.
We knew at the time that the Soviet Union, despite its throw-weight capability, had fewer than eighty ICBMs available, and only a literal handful of those on ready alert, and that they still didn't have anything near to bomber parity--they were still flying prop-driven Tupolevs.
But, the communications that we take for granted now weren't in place then. It wasn't quite so easy to just pick up a phone in an emergency. Combine that with a very hawkish military staff in the Pentagon, and a fundamental failure of the CIA to pick up on the early evidence of missiles in Cuba and the preparations for such, and I can understand why there seemed to be an over-reaction by today's standards of judgment.
In a strange way, Kennedy was at odds with his own staff, the Pentagon and the Soviets. The upper echelon in the Pentagon was riddled with Birchers and the like who mistrusted him, his own people were quite hawkish and the Soviets were terrified of an all-out war and were therefore unpredictable.
But, Kennedy had already learned one important lesson before his election--he believed the trumped-up charges of a missile gap and used that to his advantage in the election. When he finally reached office, he discovered that it was all manufactured bullshit. That caused him to not take the recommendations of the hawks on faith.
Always seems odd to me that the NFL plays hockey these days in towns that never, ever see an iced-over lake or pond.
Expansion into American markets plus the then-horrible exchange rate between the Canadian and American dollars saw the NHL leave Quebec City and Winnipeg for cities like Miami and Phoenix (the Nordiques left for Denver, the Jets for Phoenix).
DJ:
can always tell when the hits hit--
muchas gracias, amigo!
montag: we seem to be approaching agreement. Sure, a 'phone call' covers a lot of complex ground, and probably worth a seriously researched book rather than one of my glib paragraphs on a blog. And without a doubt, Kennedy was facing internal opposition from hawks of a ferocious bellicosity that we pretend to have forgotten. The Soviets, faced with the like of LeMay running our superior strategic arsenal, were skittish for a reason.
Yeah. WTF _was_ this about?
...The previous photo linked with this story was digitally altered by mistake. Politico.com regrets the error...
Way back, JeffCo asked. I didn't see an answer. Anyone note the previous photo?
FUCK John McCain.
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