Fucking camper.
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12.29.07 - 11:57 am | #
The identities he kept separate for most of his 42 years collided in the days after he died; the few dozen mostly white bloggers who came to Harlem for the funeral saw for the first time the stark urban setting of Gilliard’s childhood, while his parents and relatives groped to understand what kind of work he had been doing at that computer and why scores of people had come so far to see him off.
Actually, this is the way RIL described the funeral to me.
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12.29.07 - 11:57 am | #
yeah, i'd love to know if bai actually knew steve.
god, i miss his voice. esp now.
nona |
12.29.07 - 11:58 am | #
From below:
On the plus side, the greenhouse effect should bring us lots of vegetables... but that will be a source of even more methane gasses (sorry for that!)
Nuts!
Except that studies show that, although there is higher growth, the nutritional value of plants gown with higher CO2 is lower.
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12.29.07 - 11:59 am | #
Gilliard’s “News Blog,” along with the partisan attacks on Republicans
Because, of course, when THEY attack Democrats, it's NEVER "partisan."
Terry C, Democratic Bitch |
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12.29.07 - 12:00 pm | #
Funny.
JR, kerosene and a match |
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12.29.07 - 12:01 pm | #
very few influential bloggers have accurately predicted the fatal problems with sunroofs.
no no nsense |
12.29.07 - 12:02 pm | #
I don't think we've really seen any clear weather effects from global warming yet. For the most part, those trends are superimposed on a system so inherently chaotic that it will take quite a few years to really spot them.
blerb, just baked |
12.29.07 - 12:02 pm | #
Matt Bai was also wrong about Steve's life. Gilly didn't lead a lonely life. It was rich and filled day to day with his work, family, friends and sports. From his niece and nephew, his mother and father, to his co-publisher Jen, and the bloggers and friends he hung out with on a regular basis in person and on-line, this was a man who had a full, rich life.
Well, I guess it's in the interpretation of the reader. I came away thinking that he did indeed have a full life, but that he had resigned himself to having no partner. Which some people will view as one in the same. I don't.
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12.29.07 - 12:02 pm | #
For the most part, those trends are superimposed on a system so inherently chaotic that it will take quite a few years to really spot them.
blerb
Climate isn't "chaotic", it's "Chaotic"... that's a big difference.
Anyways, right now it's a Chaotic system heading towards chaos (not Chaos).
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12.29.07 - 12:04 pm | #
I'd say so.
Terry C, Democratic Bitch |
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12.29.07 - 12:04 pm | #
What I meant there: that some people view resigning oneself to singlehood means a lonely life.
Marcellina |
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12.29.07 - 12:04 pm | #
Few readers knew much about him. They didn’t know, for instance, that at age 39 he had open-heart surgery to repair an infected valve. They didn’t know he lived alone in a small apartment in East Harlem.
Since both aspects were discussed on his blog at great length (not, though, the actual location of his apartment), it's hard to know how "few readers" WOULDN'T know about this. Gilliard's first surgery even inspired one of those fake-death posts some fucking troll posted under the name "Jen" here.
and fuck the fucking yankees
rootless-e |
12.29.07 - 12:05 pm | #
I miss him, too. He really was a rennaissance guy, military history, politics, cooking, sports, music, he was into everything. His blog was one of the first I stumbled on.
Karin |
12.29.07 - 12:05 pm | #
the sunroof lever first hit governer connaly's wrist, exited, turned mid-air and hit benazir bhutto as she fell.
no no nsense |
12.29.07 - 12:05 pm | #
What I meant there: that some people view resigning oneself to singlehood means a lonely life.
Marcellina
There are worse things than being single.
Settling for less because you don't want to be alone....peh!
Terry C, Democratic Bitch |
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12.29.07 - 12:05 pm | #
You want company? You want unreserved love?
get a dog.
JR, kerosene and a match |
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12.29.07 - 12:06 pm | #
I wish I'd read him when he was alive.
The "small apartment in East Harlem" think did make me look twice, as if it was meant as a judgement on a lack of monetary success.
Marcellina |
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12.29.07 - 12:07 pm | #
"Gilliard's first surgery even inspired one of those fake-death posts some fucking troll posted under the name "Jen" here."
I almost feel sorry for someone whose life is that empty and pathetic.
Fuck the Times.
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12.29.07 - 12:07 pm | #
You want company? You want unreserved love?
get a dog.
JR, kerosene and a match
Dogs are better than SOME people.
Terry C, Democratic Bitch |
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12.29.07 - 12:08 pm | #
Miss him.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian |
12.29.07 - 12:08 pm | #
The "small apartment in East Harlem" think did make me look twice, as if it was meant as a judgement on a lack of monetary success.
Marcellina
That's all that counts with the right.
Terry C, Democratic Bitch |
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12.29.07 - 12:08 pm | #
I would guess he lived in East Harlem because that was his neighborhood.
Karin |
12.29.07 - 12:08 pm | #
the 'small apartment in east harlem' most certainly is meant as a way to demean the occupant.
america is first and foremost about worshipping material wealth.
no no nsense |
12.29.07 - 12:08 pm | #
Except that studies show that, although there is higher growth, the nutritional value of plants gown with higher CO2 is lower.
JR, kerosene and a match
So I can't blame my whimsy on the radishes?
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12.29.07 - 12:08 pm | #
I almost feel sorry for someone whose life is that empty and pathetic.
Almost.
Terry C,
I agree, so long as "almost" means "roughly the same number of parsecs removed as the Large Magellenic Cloud.
JR, kerosene and a match |
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12.29.07 - 12:09 pm | #
Who is Matt Bai, then? I am not a regular NYT reader (except for the arts section.)
Marcellina |
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12.29.07 - 12:09 pm | #
So I can't blame my whimsy on the radishes?
Nuts!
it's the brocolli, they are actually teeny murderous aliens.
JR, kerosene and a match |
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12.29.07 - 12:09 pm | #
What I meant there: that some people view resigning oneself to singlehood means a lonely life.
Marcellina
The word 'resigning' may give some indication of the perception.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian |
12.29.07 - 12:10 pm | #
matt bai does not live in a small apartment in east harlem
no no nsense |
12.29.07 - 12:10 pm | #
Steve was essential reading. No day goes by that I don't wish for his commentary.
The News Blog remains on my 'Favorites' list; it continues to be an indispensible resource on many, many levels.
CF2K |
12.29.07 - 12:10 pm | #
Here's the biggest bullshit passage in Bai's article:
The paradox of Gilliard’s existence is a familiar story on the blogs, where people often adapt avatars that are more like the selves they imagine being. Online, he was vicious and uncompromising. In person, Gilly, as his close friends called him, was reserved and enigmatic.
.Climate isn't "chaotic", it's "Chaotic"... that's a big difference.
I knew which sense of the word I was using. The global weather system is a perfect example of a system with lots of strange attractors, illustrated by the parable of the butterfly effect. Driving the system harder with warming may change the distribution and strength of the attractors, but it will do nothing to alter the system's fundamental nature.
I will say that in recent years, there has been a definite unusual preponderance of meridional vs. zonal flow patterns in the longwaves of the northern polar jet. Hence, there have been many anectdotal reports of unusual/unseasonable conditions in many different places in the northern hemisphere. The trend towards more meridional flow could itself be a signal from global warming, but I think it will take quite a bit more data to really come to that conclusion.
blerb, just baked |
12.29.07 - 12:11 pm | #
Dogs are better than Most people.
Terry C, Democratic Bitch
Man I miss Steve.
driftglass |
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12.29.07 - 12:12 pm | #
You want company? You want unreserved love?
get a dog.
I have some extras...
NTodd, Now 80lbs Heavier |
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12.29.07 - 12:12 pm | #
“I wonder if people substitute fascination with things they can control over things they can’t — other people. You start to wonder if you’ve created a world so limited that you can’t really reach beyond it.” He lamented that he didn’t know what it was to “wake up naked in a strange bed,” but, he wrote, “at 35, I’ve figured out that this is it, at least for now. Anything I do, any life I make, is going to revolve around words and computers and strange, bright people.”
Would be interesting to have heard him saying this, what kind of mood. One can read it different ways.
Marcellina |
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12.29.07 - 12:12 pm | #
One problem with Mrs. Clinton's experience argument is that it reopens the question of whether her husband was an adequate foreign-policy president. From the NYT:
Asked to cite a significant foreign policy object lesson from the 1990s, Mrs. Clinton also replied with broad observations. "There are a lot of them," she said. "The whole unfortunate experience we've had with the Bush administration, where they haven't done what we've needed to do to reach out to the rest of the world, reinforces my experience in the 1990s that public diplomacy, showing respect and understanding of people's different perspectives--it's more likely to at least create the conditions where we can exercise our values and pursue our interests."
This is meant to be just boilerplate. But if you take Mrs. Clinton's words seriously, they point to the fruits of her husband's "public diplomacy"--that is to say, to the failures of his foreign policy: humiliation in Somalia, genocide in Rwanda, stalemate in Iraq, chaos in Afghanistan leading to terror attacks against America in, among other places, Kenya, Tanzania and Yemen. And it strains credulity to suggest that a breakdown in "public diplomacy" in the first 234 days of the Bush administration is what led to the attacks of Sept. 11.
Obama could argue that Bill Clinton was a failure as a foreign-policy president. But guess how well that would go over with the Democratic primary electorate? Since Obama cannot go after Mrs. Clinton on her real substantive weaknesses, he is going to have to hope that his own personal appeal, combined with Democratic voters' personal antipathy for her, is sufficient to win him the nomination. That it may well be, but is this any way to choose a president?
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12.29.07 - 12:12 pm | #
Sorry, I can't get over my gratitude that the NYT Op-Ed is FINALLY going to balance the naked liberal left-wing biased over-the-top wholly-unacceptable partisanship of Krugman!
Now we have to silence Noam Chomsky and shut down Amy Goodman! ON TO PURITY!!!!!
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12.29.07 - 12:12 pm | #
The paradox of Gilliard’s existence is a familiar story on the blogs, where people often adapt avatars that are more like the selves they imagine being. Online, he was vicious and uncompromising. In person, Gilly, as his close friends called him, was reserved and enigmatic.
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it was just a big 'second life' type game at the computer.
didn't mean much.
oh well. nice guy.
goodbye.
***is that the conveyed meaning here?***
no no nsense |
12.29.07 - 12:12 pm | #
Matt Bai - a writer who specializes in snatching semi-informed opinion from the jaws of fact.
Susie from Philly |
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12.29.07 - 12:12 pm | #
marcellina --
his blog is archived here. it is full of fantastic writing -- history, iraq, soccer...
Gilliard was a master fundraiser for his blog. I would have thought he made more of his funds to support himself and his blog from that instead of blog ads.
mer |
12.29.07 - 12:13 pm | #
Online, he was vicious and uncompromising.
some people can't tell the difference between vicious and brutally honest.
usually these people can't smell the reek from their own asses.
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12.29.07 - 12:14 pm | #
Pakistan media -- Bhutto staffers saw multiple bullet wounds
ISLAMABAD: "There was a bullet wound I saw that went in from the back of her head and came out the other side," Bhutto's spokeswoman Sherry Rehman, who was involved in washing her body for burial, said.
The government blamed Bhutto's killing on al-Qaida and Taliban militants operating with increasing impunity in the lawless tribal areas along the border with Afghanistan.
"This is ridiculous, dangerous nonsense because it is a cover-up of what actually happened," Sherry Rehman said referring to government claim.
Farooq Naik, Bhutto's lawyer and a senior PPP official, said Bhutto had a second bullet wound in the abdomen.
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12.29.07 - 12:15 pm | #
Another interesting thing about that Bai piece is how he never directly quotes anyone who knew, or even had an opinion, about Gilliard.
The quote from Orange Satan comes from a second-hand source.
I'm gonna treat myself to some good beans this weekend. I wonder if that should involve a jaunt to Harris Teeter.
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12.29.07 - 12:16 pm | #
I knew which sense of the word I was using. The global weather system is a perfect example of a system with lots of strange attractors, illustrated by the parable of the butterfly effect. Driving the system harder with warming may change the distribution and strength of the attractors, but it will do nothing to alter the system's fundamental nature.
I will say that in recent years, there has been a definite unusual preponderance of meridional vs. zonal flow patterns in the longwaves of the northern polar jet. Hence, there have been many anectdotal reports of unusual/unseasonable conditions in many different places in the northern hemisphere. The trend towards more meridional flow could itself be a signal from global warming, but I think it will take quite a bit more data to really come to that conclusion.
blerb, just baked | 12.29.07 - 12:11 pm |
Um, could you translate that, please?
Also, we were supposed to have a warmer winter. But no! I demand a refund.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
12.29.07 - 12:17 pm | #
thanks nona.
***is that the conveyed meaning here?***
No. It's "This big-talking liberal blogger man was just a poor, timid, sickly egghead who livedalone in a tiny walk-up in the ghetto, and fooled all those elitist white fantasist bloggers", I guess.
Marcellina |
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12.29.07 - 12:17 pm | #
When Michael S. Steele announced his candidacy for the U.S. Senate election of 2006, Gilliard mocked Steele's perceived subservience to the Republican Party by posting a photoshopped picture of Steele in minstrel makeup.
Steve Gilliard was an asshole through and through.
Nothing more to be said.
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12.29.07 - 12:17 pm | #
Looks like we may reach 50°F here, today.
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12.29.07 - 12:18 pm | #
So the Paki Gummint is trying to pretend there were no bullets to be subjected to ballistics analysis with the gunbarrel(s) they presumably recovered from the shrubbery at the scene of the attack?
The paradox of Gilliard’s existence is a familiar story on the blogs, where people often adapt avatars that are more like the selves they imagine being. Online, he was vicious and uncompromising. In person, Gilly, as his close friends called him, was reserved and enigmatic.
So, kinda like Rudy, huh? (We're Americans. It's all about us, or it just doesn't matter):
“For me this is a particularly personal experience,” Mr. Giuliani said in Florida as he discussed the assassination of Ms. Bhutto on Thursday, “because I lived through Sept. 11, 2001, and then I lived through the attacks in London a few years later.”
I didn't even know Steve's work, and I'm sure it was better than this.
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12.29.07 - 12:19 pm | #
Nothing more to be said.
Love your avatar, it really says a lot about you.
Marcellina |
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12.29.07 - 12:19 pm | #
I want them to take a perfect record into the playoffs and then have them choke.
I want to hear the lamentation of their women when their hopes are dashed by either Indy or Jacksonville.
The best game to lose would be the first playoff game, but I'm not picky.
Please God let it happen this way.
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12.29.07 - 12:20 pm | #
So the Paki Gummint is trying to pretend there were no bullets to be subjected to ballistics analysis with the gunbarrel(s) they presumably recovered from the shrubbery at the scene of the attack?
Interesting....
blerb, just baked
Their attempts to cover it up will just make the general public angrier. Of course, if they posted here they would just be dismissed as conspiracy theorists...
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12.29.07 - 12:20 pm | #
The global weather system is a perfect example of a system with lots of strange attractors, illustrated by the parable of the butterfly effect.
Well, the "butterfly effect" is about sensitive dependence, which is not exactly the same same thing.
Nor are strange attractors eternal Platonics. you can "lose" them if the system is disturbed enough.
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12.29.07 - 12:20 pm | #
“For me this is a particularly personal experience,” Mr. Giuliani said in Florida as he discussed _______________________, “because I lived through Sept. 11, 2001, and then I lived through the attacks in London a few years later.”
Formatted your template.
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12.29.07 - 12:21 pm | #
I've off to work. Have a good afternoon, folks.
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12.29.07 - 12:21 pm | #
You need to teach him how to cook pasta for a group, Clemenza.
Gomez |
12.29.07 - 12:23 pm | #
It's bizarre to watch these cable news talking heads as they express wonderment about those crazy Pakistanis and their conspiracy theories.
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12.29.07 - 12:23 pm | #
I guess from reading this article that bloggers are all socially inept, pasty faced loosers.
Gomez |
12.29.07 - 12:24 pm | #
I guess from reading this article that bloggers are all socially inept, pasty faced loosers.
They are. Trust me.
NTodd, Now 80lbs Heavier |
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12.29.07 - 12:25 pm | #
"I have a convertible.
I'm really at risk."
That is how the tigers get in when you are not looking.
EkCenTriK |
12.29.07 - 12:26 pm | #
Stop the presses! Interviewed on Russert's MSNBC show, Steve Martin correctly pronounced Biloxi - a first by a Yankee on national teevee.
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QuentinCompson |
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12.29.07 - 12:26 pm | #
Right, off to do something useless.
later, flittermice.
JR, kerosene and a match |
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12.29.07 - 12:26 pm | #
Um, could you translate that, please?
The second part is that the global pattern of zonally confined westerly high altitude winds, AKA the jet streams, usually have a wavy course around the hemisphere. These waves are called Rossby waves or just longwaves, and they evolve in a quasi-stable but chaotic pattern over time. Roughly speaking, in the northern hemisphere, if you're under a region of the jet stream where its longwave is turning to the right i.e. under a hump, or ridge, in the jetstream, you will have warmer than average and less rainy weather. If you're unde a place where the wave is turning left, i.e. a trough, then you'll have cooler and wetter weather. The number, size, position, and steepness or longwaves can change quite a bit over time, but usually remains quasi-stable in the short term. When the waves are very shallow, there is not much deviation from climatological norms in the conditions in most places. If the waves are very steep, there are lots of places where it is either warmer of cooler than those norms. Lately, we've been having a lot of the steeper, or meridional flow pattern.
Does thaT help a all?
blerb, just baked |
12.29.07 - 12:27 pm | #
"I have a convertible.
I'm really at risk."
That is how the tigers get in when you are not looking.
EkCenTriK | 12.29.07 - 12:26 pm |
So that's how he got Tiger!
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
12.29.07 - 12:28 pm | #
while his parents and relatives groped to understand what kind of work he had been doing at that computer and why scores of people had come so far to see him off.
I remember resding that his parents, his mother especially, didn't understand his whole internet attachment.
Still, that was a fairly sweet NYT column. More poignant was the blog post.
It's comforting somehow to read about someone who was so admired, loved, and mourned.
And although his presence is felt, deeply missed.
pie |
12.29.07 - 12:28 pm | #
Stop the presses! Interviewed on Russert's MSNBC show, Steve Martin correctly pronounced Biloxi - a first by a Yankee on national teevee.
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QuentinCompson
It used up all Chimpy's braincells to get that right during Katrina.
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12.29.07 - 12:28 pm | #
It's bizarre to watch these cable news talking heads as they express wonderment about those crazy Pakistanis and their conspiracy theories.
P O'Neill
Sure. They know more about Pakistan than the brown fellers who live there.
Lime Rickey |
12.29.07 - 12:29 pm | #
Years ago, Steve Gilliard wrote the best analysis of the true character of Rudy Giuliani, in his reflection on Giuliani's marriage at Gracie Mansion, in his piece "The Banality of Hypocrisy".
Well, the "butterfly effect" is about sensitive dependence, which is not exactly the same same thing.
Nor are strange attractors eternal Platonics. you can "lose" them if the system is disturbed enough.
Just in case you are still here, it is the former characteristic, i.e. the sensitive dependence of the large-scale behavior of a huge, quasi-stable attractor like a typhoon on small shifts in the input, that make stange attractors what they are.
So by definition, they can go away suddenly, not just with large perturbations in the inputs, but rather even with small ones. That's what makes them strange attractors.
blerb, just baked |
12.29.07 - 12:32 pm | #
I know I'm late to the party, but I'm really pissed about the NYT faux "obit" for Steve Gilliard.
I've run out of fingers to count how many ways it's wrong, racist, and just plain mean-spirited.
South-North/North-South ie. more along the meridians of longitude than west-east. Have I got that right?
sidhra
Exactly. Meridians are lines of longitude, and zones are lines of latitude. The jet stream is called more zonal or meridional based on which lines it follows more closely.
blerb, just baked |
12.29.07 - 12:37 pm | #
I guess from reading this article that bloggers are all socially inept, pasty faced loosers.