I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
6, 12, 18, 24,...
How many Friedman's will it take?
Third? Forth?
It will always be too early for these guys.
There is no need to read the posts anymore. They are all the same anyway.
We need a wanker "Hall of Fame".
Time is not running out.
It's running sideways.
Every Friedman is sacred ...
Bucking for another star requires drinking the Kool-aid.
Everyone in D.C. is wanking for another star.
music swells, to the tune of Sinatra's "A very good year".
Six months agooooo...
was a very good Freidman...
It was a very good Friedman,
for hearts and mines, and golden shrines...
(etc, etc)
The six months before thaaaat...
was a very good Friedman.
etc, etc.
(bathe, bathe)
Actually the current surge of troops is "open ended" as is the occupation. More or less like the Post Office when they announce a "temporary" rate increase, it's temporary allright, until the next increase.
We need a wanker "Hall of Fame".
bajsa
Thanks, but I don't do it for the recognition.
The media sucks. None of those fuckers seems to have read "The Best and the Brightest". If they did, they would have learned something. Not only that, they need to call guys like Odierno out on their BS.
Yeah, he also said that Baghdad is 40% secure.
twelvtieth
People do realize that our military will *never* admit defeat, right?
There is no need to read the posts anymore. They are all the same anyway.
It ain't just that the posts are not changing, it's that the news isn't changing. We're being overran by samespeak.
El Gato Negro--I no realize eef thees ees something the keety would enjoy, but I am making burrrgerrrrrrs weeth Swees cheese, greeled onions, sauteed mushrrrroms, and black pepper corrns por deener. Would the keety cat like some?
So.
The surge just started. We need time to let it work.
- Joe Lieberman, Jan, Feb, Mar, Apr, May, Jun 2007.
Yeah, he also said that Baghdad is 40% secure.
NTodd, Octothorpist
With feather-light cups that lift and separate.
Time has come today.
People really need to stop talking.
It gets them in all sorts of trouble.
People do realize that our military will *never* admit defeat, right?
The funny thing is they don't really have to. They pretty much kicked as militarily in the conventional sense. They coulda just really rode Mission Accomplished and come home.
In this context it's like they're trying desperately to win the Nobel Peace Prize. No Army's gonna do that, but we don't say they "lost". Oughta try the same thing here.
"It's running sideways."
it all depends on the perspective of the observer.
sane people say it looks like a huge clusterfuck, while the insane say it might look a tad vexing but can be overcome with some reaganesque sunny optimism and lots of bombs.
just a little more time is needed.
Diane, I advocate that come 4 p.m., we abandon whatever else we're imbibing in and switch to Bombay martinis.
Stinky, iced tea--->>>>monitor.
NTodd: Get over it.
I am over it.
You, and to a greater extent GJCC's hoard, know more accurately what this woman meant than anyone who read her for the past two years. I get it. You're just that goddamn clever.
But you're not. Fuck your opinion.
.
Puh-lease.
It's never too early.
"Super Pho King Tastee Freeze" is open 24/7.
In this context it's like they're trying desperately to win the Nobel Peace Prize. No Army's gonna do that, but we don't say they "lost". Oughta try the same thing here.
Hey, I'm willing to call it a victory and go home. They can even have parades for all I care.
Let's just stop the flow of hatred we're breeding.
Diane, I advocate that come 4 p.m., we abandon whatever else we're imbibing in and switch to Bombay martinis.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
What a splendid idea!
I finally gave in and turned on the a/c, so by then I should be ready.
Let's just stop the flow of hatred we're breeding.
That's crazy talk.
"We need more time, they've got to give us time here," he said. "It's just too early."
Haven't enough people died already?
People do realize that our military will *never* admit defeat, right?
sherifffruitfly
The military only carries out the mission of the Commander in Chief - any blame for defeat falls squarely on the shoulders of one Preznit.
NTodd, Jeffraham, I love you both dearly and count you as great friends. It breaks my heart to see you two arguing like this.
Don't make me use the Teacher Look.
just a little more time is needed
Hang on to your hopes, my friend; that's an easy thing to say, but if your hopes should pass away simply pretend that you can build them again.
"Let's just stop the flow of hatred we're breeding.
That's crazy talk."
right. we need to nip this hatred in the bud. time to take the gloves off.
We need a wanker "Hall of Fame".
http://flprogressive.blogspot.co...ll-of-
fame.html
Oh fucking shit. Get on your fucking scooter and go get some fucking beer from sahib and some fucking cat food while you're at it.
We're not haters.
Everyone loves Pho King.
It's like Atrios has a crystal ball or something.
Oh wait - he just doesn't have his head firmly lodged up his ass *coughFriedmancough*
People do realize that our military will *never* admit defeat, right?
sherifffruitfly
So declare victory and leave Iraq.
(choplick
Thees sounds tasty, but unfortunamente, the onions, they are no so good for keety digestive tracts.
Sort of, how-joo-say "toxic".
so.
1981 interview with John Belushi and Dan Aykroyd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z...h?v=zBVb_fKOO-
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Hey, I'm willing to call it a victory and go home. They can even have parades for all I care.
"Cold hard stares on faces, so proud.
Kisses from the girls, and cheers from the crowd.
While the widow from the last war cries into her shroud.
Here comes the big parade."
-Phil Ochs
ah fuck. it's getting good and i gotta leave.
The Bushboy regime has sunk nearly 4000 American lives, 30,000 wounded and hundreds of billions of dollars into their Iraq blunder.
If anybody thinks they're going to pull out anytime soon just because another 100 US soldiers die and another 500 get seriously wounded each month, you haven't been paying attention!
El Gato Negro, I could, joo know, make yours especial sans onions
Please mom, just THIS many more minutes (holds up 4 fingers).
Really, though, what would you expect to hear from the chairman of the board?
OK, I've got Bonus Critter Blogging up.
JohnJS provided me with another stunningly beautiful picture.
Sort of, how-joo-say "toxic".
Oh c'mon! What's a little toxicity when compared to Depleted Uranium? You cats are all pussies!
You, and to a greater extent GJCC's hoard, know more accurately what this woman meant than anyone who read her for the past two years. I get it. You're just that goddamn clever.
But you're not. Fuck your opinion.
Fuck you, JP. Her post was completely stupid and devoid of context. Learn to understand that. People read a post I wrote about Anne Frank and don't get it, even though it's CLEARLY snark combined with a real, serious point. I mock them, but I don't quit blogging because they don't know my full body of work.
She fucked up. She posted in a way that was impossible to see as ironic. And guess what, I have read her shit before because you pimp it. But even knowing after the fact that it was intended to be somehow ironic doesn't help--I see that post and I see nothing ironic.
But that's not even the point. The General didn't "take her down". She took herself down. She has agency and she chose to leave because it got hot. She could have done something to calm things but instead got defensive, pissy and left.
So fuck you and your opinion. And get over it, because you clearly haven't.
Hokay,, the leetle typos, they seem t be taking over.
My paws are obviously no quite suited to the streectures of the qwerty keyboard.
Hmmmm, Sangria ees een order, and keety-nip,
I shall return, anon...
hasta luego, murcíelagos.
'dios for now.
Really, though, what would you expect to hear from the chairman of the board?
Heh. No video.
Worst. YouTube. Ever.
Give me just a little more time
And our love will surely grow
Thanks Aangus!
One of the reasons Bushboy invaded Iraq was for it's oil.
If he pulls out now, he'll not only piss off his base of rightwing chickenhawks, but more importantly he'll piss off Big Oil.
Bushboy is too deep in their pockets to tell them to fuck off. He'll stay to save face and he'll stay for the oil.
Worst. YouTube. Ever. Zap Rowsdower
It was from their Smell The Glove album.
It was from their Smell The Glove album.
What's wrong with being sexy?
All I know and all I have is time
And time and tide is on my side
This is my Anne Frank post, BTW. Ironically enough, inspired by Litz.
Give me just a little more time
And our love will surely grow
[narrows eyes]
I'm giving you a 10-second head start...
I'm confused.
What happened to Litz?
It's amazing the pathetic, lame excuses that junior officers would NEVER be allowed to get away with that I'm hearing from three and four star generals nowadays.
One of the reasons Bushboy invaded Iraq was for it's oil.
I'm so torn on this conspiracy theory. If it was for their oil, why is it not flowing? I would think the soldiers would be guarding against attack on the infrastructure of the oil. But then again, they keep demanding that the Iraqi government sign some stupid law to give away the rights. I just don't know.
NTodd: Fuck you, JP. Her post was completely stupid and devoid of context.
It wasn't for me.
Learn to understand that. People read a post I wrote about Anne Frank and don't get it, even though it's CLEARLY snark combined with a real, serious point. I mock them, but I don't quit blogging because they don't know my full body of work.
She fucked up. She posted in a way that was impossible to see as ironic. And guess what, I have read her shit before because you pimp it. But even knowing after the fact that it was intended to be somehow ironic doesn't help--I see that post and I see nothing ironic.
But that's not even the point. The General didn't "take her down". She took herself down. She has agency and she chose to leave because it got hot. She could have done something to calm things but instead got defensive, pissy and left.
I understand that YOU (or any casual observer) could not understand the snark that WAS there, since you hadn't nor could have expected to have been a regular reader, there.
I also understand this isn't why she left, but just the last straw in a long succession of events that you nor anyone else has any interested in understanding, and that is fine.
I still find it ironic that the first communication between these two people included a direct threat to one's employment -- the VERY FUCKING FIRST CONTACT -- and you have absolutely no problem with that.
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I'm so torn on this conspiracy theory. If it was for their oil, why is it not flowing? I would think the soldiers would be guarding against attack on the infrastructure of the oil. But then again, they keep demanding that the Iraqi government sign some stupid law to give away the rights. I just don't know.
smalfish, tinfoil hatted | 06.16.07 - 6:58 pm | #
Insurgency is the Speedbump on the road to profit.
What happened to Litz?
Nothing. Back during The Time In Question, she merely said I was being an ass and told me to go to hell because I thought The Britster made a mistake and reacted poorly to it. Same as why JP's so delicately telling me my opinion doesn't matter now.
That wheezing sound you may have heard this week amid the chaos in Gaza, the carnage in Baghdad and the conflict in Lebanon was the final gasps of the Bush Doctrine in its death throes. Just two years after the President and his neo-conservative allies basked in the glow of their self-proclaimed moment of triumph, the Bush Doctrine of no safe havens for terrorists, American preventive war and democracy promotion is discredited, discarded - and dead.
For the details, see:
"The Death of the Bush Doctrine."
Once upon a time a long time ago I took down a couple of comments threads at the suggestion of the son of the late Lars-Erik Nelson. When his father died his family was less than thrilled about all of the things online they'd stumble across (cough freerepublic.com cough), and was concerned that the family of Michael Kelly might be similarly upset.
For some reason people don't like it too much when they are confronted with nasy things said about their dead friends and relatives. I'm sure this is crazy, but there you go.
She fucked up. She posted in a way that was impossible to see as ironic. And guess what, I have read her shit before because you pimp it. But even knowing after the fact that it was intended to be somehow ironic doesn't help--I see that post and I see nothing ironic.
As loathe as I am to be in complete agreement with NTodd about anything, he's absolutely on target here.
You post something as vile as that screed, you need to preface it with something that communicates your loathing of it.
I understand that YOU (or any casual observer) could not understand the snark that WAS there, since you hadn't nor could have expected to have been a regular reader, there.
Lamest excuse ever. She's on a public blog. She's going to get heat by "casual readers". Tough shit.
I also understand this isn't why she left, but just the last straw in a long succession of events that you nor anyone else has any interested in understanding, and that is fine.
Yes, I understand that. I read her post and your subsequent comments. Tough shit.
I still find it ironic that the first communication between these two people included a direct threat to one's employment -- the VERY FUCKING FIRST CONTACT -- and you have absolutely no problem with that.
I guess you, as a casual reader of the General, don't understand his schtick. Odd, that.
For some reason people don't like it too much when they are confronted with nasy things said about their dead friends and relatives. I'm sure this is crazy, but there you go.
Yep.
That's it in a nutshell.
For some reason people don't like it too much when they are confronted with nasy things said about their dead friends and relatives. I'm sure this is crazy, but there you go.
Fucking pussies.
One of the reasons Bushboy invaded Iraq was for it's oil.
If he pulls out now, he'll not only piss off his base of rightwing chickenhawks, but more importantly he'll piss off Big Oil.
From what I've read, Big Oil ultimately wasn't too enthusiastic about the plans Cheney and the neocons were hatching with Chalabi. Even they saw the folly in it.
Of course, that hasn't stopped Cheney's minions from pursuing the insane master plan.
One of the reasons Bushboy invaded Iraq was for it's oil.
Right.
To keep the oil off the market.
Reduce Supply, Keep Demand steady or increasing...
...prices go up!
[/Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding!]
We have a winners.
For some reason people don't like it too much when they are confronted with nasy things said about their dead friends and relatives. I'm sure this is crazy, but there you go.
The intertubes are an untamed zoo. If you're famous, you should expect any kind of treatment on said zoo.
I'm now watching "Almost Famous" - Earl was skinnier back then.
The Bushboy doctrine was always a pipe dream presented by a cowardly, egotistical liar, who didn't have the brains or the balls to understand anything he was doing.
If a war crimes tribunal is ever held and Bushboy and Cheneychins are indicted and convicted, the four living Supreme Court members who installed the depraved moron in the WH should also be sent to prison!
One of the reasons Bushboy invaded Iraq was for it's oil.
What was the other one?
Salty Lake | 06.16.07 - 7:02 pm | #
Correctomundo. Invasion for oil profits, not for oil.
This death announcement was brought to you by the US Military.
But if we leave, who'll run the zillion $ embassy?
It's not about putting oil onto the market.
It's about taking oil off of the market and creating a shortage. Which brings up the price of gas.
It does not matter what Brittney meant.
What matters is what you THINK she meant.
Even once you knew what she meant, it didn't matter.
.
I'll be back later. Hope everyone can calm down.
Off to dinner. Cyall later.
One of the reasons Bushboy invaded Iraq was for it's oil.
What was the other one?
The oil.
A cut from the most excellent Showdown album with Albert Collins, Robert Cray, and Johnny Copeland.
The video is boring as all hell, but the tune kicks ass.
For some reason people don't like it too much when they are confronted with nasy things said about their dead friends and relatives. I'm sure this is crazy, but there you go. Atrios
For a species that claims self-awareness, we sadly too often lack compassion.
It's about taking oil off of the market and creating a shortage. Which brings up the price of gas.
The thing is, there is no shortage of oil. It's a lack of supply from the refineries that's making the price of gas go up. Opec has recently considered raising the price because demand was down. Or something.
But if we leave, who'll run the zillion $ embassy?
Bjorn,a poor young country boi
The Chinese?
They're the ones who paid for it.
One of the reasons Bushboy invaded Iraq was for it's oil.
What was the other one?
The oil.
watertiger | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 7:06 pm | #
Saddam converting to the PetroEuro
What was the other one?
Christoffersen
the other reasons are really why he was selected and the election stolen, because he's such a stupid fuck that the PNAC traitors would easily have their way with him. They are all about Lex Luthor and Dr. Evil, fuckwits thinking that they not onkly can run the world, but that they should. Bushie is the puppet, and a more perfect wooden head isn't to be found anywhere outside the sad crop of repukes hoping to take his place.
The intertubes are an untamed zoo. If you're famous, you should expect any kind of treatment on said zoo. smalfish
I agree completely, but after a time looking at baboon asses loses its charm.
For some reason people don't like it too much when they are confronted with nasy things said about their dead friends and relatives. I'm sure this is crazy, but there you go.
It's okay if you're a local blogger not known for snarky comment on a news blog.
It does not matter what Brittney meant.
Absolutely correct. Intent is irrelevant.
What matters is what you THINK she meant.
Not at all. It's what the General thought she meant.
Even once you knew what she meant, it didn't matter.
Correct again. She linked to something that was hateful about a recently-deceased person who was a friend to the General and a good many people. Without providing context. Oh sure, people of course should comb through her 2 years of archives to see what she really meant. Yes, I'm sure his family and friends would totally understand then.
She was insensitive to a powerful loss, caught flak for it as all bloggers do when they pull some boner, and quit. Tough fucking shit on a silver platter.
Reduce Supply, Keep Demand steady or increasing...
We have a winners.
Salty Lake | 06.16.07 - 7:02 pm | #
read this http://www.pbs.org/now/
transcrip...OW145_full.html
"JAMIE COURT: Oil companies have manipulated supply so that when there's-- gonna be a peak season of demand, they then withhold supply. And when there aren't adequate inventories, the system is rigged for a shortage, even though it's artificial.
MARIA HINOJOSA: After crude is drilled from the ground, it needs to be refined — turned into gasoline, diesel or home heating oil.
But since the peak in 1981, more than half of the refineries that used to operate in the U.S. have been shut down. And that, charge critics, has been part of an industry strategy going back years.
MARIA HINOJOSA: But that Rand survey found: "increasing capacity and output … [was] now frowned upon" by many refiners.
MARIA HINOJOSA: We have internal documents that say that the industry wanted to keep the market tight, wanted to keep capacity low." And that, in effect, in the year 2005, that's what you have. A very tight market."
The Friedman unit is a very useful tool. I had a co-worker years ago, back when we were both stuck in a low-paying rut of a job. I quit in 2001 and went on to bigger and better things. My co-worker is still there. Every time I see him, he tells me he's going to be ready to quit in "about six months." In "about six months," he'll have enough money saved up/get his teeth fixed on the company health care/finish recording his new CD/whatever other excuse he's using this time. Six months goes by, and he keeps saying "oh, about six months." The funny part is, I never ask him when he's going to quit. He always volunteers this information. I wonder if I should tell him about the "Friedman unit" next time I see him.
For a species that claims self-awareness, we sadly too often lack compassion.
Requires actually stepping out of one's bubble from time to time.
I'm now watching "Almost Famous"
When someone asks if you're a golden god, you say "Yes!"
Jan 31st, 2001. 11 Days after Bush takes office, the first official meeting to invade Iraq takes place.
http://www.paperlessarchives.com...es.com/
GWB2.JPG
One of the reasons Bushboy invaded Iraq was for it's oil.
What was the other one?
The oil.
Karl told him that he'd get some cool biking socks with the Iraqi Preznitial Seal on them.
44 more soldiers dead just this month.
Stop this.
I agree completely, but after a time looking at baboon asses loses its charm.
So much BLUUUUUUUUUUUE!!!
For a species that claims self-awareness, we sadly too often lack compassion.
Requires actually stepping out of one's bubble from time to time.
I always wanted a little bubble car that I could use to tool around under the ocean.
The thing is, there is no shortage of oil. It's a lack of supply from the refineries that's making the price of gas go up.
Which may have something to do with China and India deciding to burn the stuff as if they were Americans.
Imagine!
Let me give you commenters the 411, my blog is my cock and you are the Ho's that need to attend to it. So if you are not stroking, riding or sucking get the f&@% off this blog bitches.
44 more soldiers dead just this month.
Stop this.
You should stop posting those figures. That would solve everything.
I always wanted a little bubble car that I could use to tool around under the ocean.
NTodd, Octothorpist | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 7:10 pm | #
WICKED !
Requires actually stepping out of one's bubble from time to time. watertiger
Chimpy McSmirk lives inside Rover.
Requires actually stepping out of one's bubble from time to time.
watertiger
There's no air out there!
"Look what happened two years ago in Bakersfield, California.
Shell Oil, one of the industry's biggest companies, had recently taken this refinery over. Some 400 people worked here and business seemed to be going strong.
It was "one of the few Shell U.S. refineries to turn a profit" according to this company memo, which praised the "world-class performance" of the employees there.
One of them was this man who asked us to hide his identity. He believes Shell wanted to tighten the supply of gasoline and diesel in California and that the company intended to close this refinery down in order to do that.
MARIA HINOJOSA: So just over a year after Shell buys the refinery, Shell is now telling its employees that they wanna sell the refinery?
WHISTLE BLOWER: No, that they wanna demolish the refinery.
MARIA HINOJOSA: They wanna get rid of it entirely?
WHISTLE BLOWER: Yes, correct. They would shut it down and demolish it."
http://www.pbs.org/now/
transcrip...OW145_full.html
Let me give you commenters the 411, my blog is my cock and you are the Ho's that need to attend to it. So if you are not stroking, riding or sucking get the f&@% off this blog bitches.
I got that one, but your TPS report didn't have the new cover sheet.
The Death of the Bush Doctrine
Where? They seem remarkably alive to me.
I always wanted a little bubble car that I could use to tool around under the ocean. NTodd
When have you ever needed a bubble car to tool around?
Let me give you commenters the 411, my blog is my cock and you are the Ho's that need to attend to it. So if you are not stroking, riding or sucking get the f&@% off this blog bitches.
Atrios | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 7:11 pm |
Now THAT is hott. Hi tena.
When have you ever needed a bubble car to tool around?
I can't hold my breath that long, even behind the Tastee Freez.
Which may have something to do with China and India deciding to burn the stuff as if they were Americans.
Which brings back the point that if oil was the reason for invading, it too failed. There's just as much oil today as before the invasion.
The thing is, there is no shortage of oil. It's a lack of supply from the refineries that's making the price of gas go up.
Yup. The price of oil has remained relatively constant over the last two years, while gas prices has risen 25% due to the manufactured shortages. It's a variation on the Enron scam.
Now THAT is hott. Hi tena.
Why would you presume that's Tena?
I just devoured a tender, juicy, delectible steak which I grilled to perfection for five minutes a side over blazing hot coals. Chuck fillet. $3.49 a pound. Why I should buy a more expensive cut, or season steak with anything other than some salt, is at this moment beyond me.
I don't think Tena would be that childish.
I always wanted a little bubble car that I could use to tool around under the ocean.
Oh, great. Now I've got "Octopus' Garden" in my head.
Let me give you commenters the 411, my blog is my cock and you are the Ho's that need to attend to it. So if you are not stroking, riding or sucking get the f&@% off this blog bitches.
I guess A list bloggers really do hate their readers.
NTodd: She was insensitive to a powerful loss, caught flak for it as all bloggers do when they pull some boner, and quit. Tough fucking shit on a silver platter.
Isn't that just it in a nutshell, with a pretty pink bow?
.
Somehow I ended up two threads down when I first logged on a minute ago, and perusing the comments I was seeing speculation that Tena is "gone" and perhaps mena as well, and that it's because of Woody being "banned".
Now, I still don't know for a fact that woody has been banned, and if so, for what, and I haven't really weighed in on this before, but I got awfully fucking sick of being told to "go suck shit through a straw" whenever I said anything that didn't measure up to his high standards. In one case, for saying I didn't like compact fluorescents because of the color of the light so I wouldn't be using them. That alone was enough reason for WGG to tee off on me, though I'm sure if I compared my gasoline usage and some other notes with him I'm probably conserving more energy than he is with the compact fluorescents. But you can't ever get to that point with him. He goes from zero to ten on the pissed-off meter, and whether it's justified or not, once he's at ten, he continues flinging shit.
I don't dislike the guy or not want him to come back, I'm just making an observation that maybe this has something to do with why he isn't around here now. Personally, I hope that will change - but I'd also like the behavoir to change as well, simply because it's uncalled for.
"MARIA HINOJOSA: Two decades ago, a quarter of American refining was done by independents. But since then, many of those have shut down, refineries like Powerine, a small operation in Southern California.
It wanted to re-open after a temporary closure but that didn't sit well with oil giant Mobil, which worried that if Powerine resumed production, gas prices would drop.
That would be good for consumers but bad for Mobil. In internal company emails, a Mobil manager wrote: "Needless to say, we would all like to see Powerine stay down. Full court press is warranted in this case …"
And to keep prices high, Mobil used another tactic here … buying up the gasoline Powerine had produced. That Mobil manager believed that was a major reason gas prices had jumped 2 to 4 cents a gallon."
Yeah, namestealing ain't Tena's style. But who the hell knows these days?
Bushie is the puppet, and a more perfect wooden head isn't to be found anywhere outside the sad crop of repukes hoping to take his place.
ronjazz© |
The scary thing is that the sad crop of repukes hoping to take his place are falling all over themselves trying to prove that they are even worse than he is.
Which brings back the point that if oil was the reason for invading, it too failed. There's just as much oil today as before the invasion.
smalfish, tinfoil hatted
Oil companies are international, and not all that interested in creating instability. It doesn't lead to greater production. They understand this.
That, and it's truly an international business, not just an "America only" business. So while Cheney and Bush may have imagined invading Iraq=oil (and I don't think they did), Big Oil never imagined any such ignorant thing.
Isn't that just it in a nutshell, with a pretty pink bow?
Yup. So you can commence to getting over it now.
And there's yet another tactic oil companies use to keep prices high, says Tim Hamilton. The industry limits supply domestically by exporting it overseas.
Now THAT is hott. Hi tena.
Why would you presume that's Tena?
Zap Rowsdower | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 7:13 pm | #
It's got that "I have the power and you don't" vibe to it.
Go suck shit through a straw, Jennifer!
WHISTLE BLOWER: No, that they wanna demolish the refinery.
MARIA HINOJOSA: They wanna get rid of it entirely?
WHISTLE BLOWER: Yes, correct. They would shut it down and demolish it."
The oil industry should be nationalized in the interests of national security. They are a far bigger threat to our economy than al Qaeda.
TIM HAMILTON: If you take two percent of your supply and you haul it off to some foreign land and dump it at less than you're selling for here and then 98 percent that remains behind goes up at the pump, man that is a ton of money, and they've done it year after year after year.
MARIA HINOJOSA: More than 45 million barrels of gasoline were shipped abroad last year. That's almost 2 billion gallons.
NTodd: Yup. So you can commence to getting over it now.
No, I can commence to getting over thinking you could discuss this.
.
TIM HAMILTON: In the free enterprise system, if you fail to meet your customers' needs, and you do it regularly, you're gonna get punished. And - your competitors are gonna eat your lunch. And you're gonna be hurt, disciplined. In the oil business, if you fail to meet your customers' needs, you make another hundred million dollars. If you drop the ball really bad, you make a couple billion. It's so totally contrary to any principle of free enterprise.
Go suck shit through a straw
I suspect that would be something like trying to suck a Mickey D's thick shake through a straw.
Which is, to say, impossible.
Isn't that just it in a nutshell, with a pretty pink bow?
No, she fucked up. That's it in a nutshell and her fans can't handle the fallibility of their hero.
What the fuck would Tena have to say about that?
NTodd - wow, it's as if WGG never left.
And there's yet another tactic oil companies use to keep prices high, says Tim Hamilton. The industry limits supply domestically by exporting it overseas.
pigboy
You mean they're selling our oil from foreign countries to foreign countries?
Those Bastards!
I hope you all fully embrace the reality that within today's US military, there is no such thing as a real deadline. For anything. Ever. From 'actioning invasions' to 'actioning the plumber' it's all the same as trying to find out when Sears is actually planning to arrive at your door. I always wondered how they managed to live in the world that the rest of lived in - the one with penalties and interest and consequences when deadlines weren't met. Like your mortgage payment. Or the kid's lunch money for the semester.
That, and it's truly an international business, not just an "America only" business. So while Cheney and Bush may have imagined invading Iraq=oil (and I don't think they did), Big Oil never imagined any such ignorant thing.
So what was the motivation for the invasion? Oil has been ruled out here people.
The oil industry should be nationalized in the interests of national security. They are a far bigger threat to our economy than al Qaeda.
Richard | 06.16.07 - 7:16 pm | #
Ladies and Gentlemen we have a winner!!
No, I can commence to getting over thinking you could discuss this.
I did discuss it. Discussed it when it first happened. Discussed it even now. But you don't want to accept that your little girlfriend was insensitive to some serious grief, fucked up and then took her ball and ran home when people took issue.
But keep harping on how if we only knew what she'd written for 2 years and what she intended we wouldn't have been offended and realize that the General somehow magically destroyed her career as an ABC blogger. That will certainly convince me.
NTodd - wow, it's as if WGG never left.
I didn't want you to feel lonely or nuthin'.
It's got that "I have the power and you don't" vibe to it.
Say what you want about Tena (gosh knows there's been some nasty shit written of late), but don't make shit up about how she "might" be.
NTodd - wow, it's as if WGG never left.
Jennifer
Yeah, don't nobody be hatin' on Tena. I don't always agree with her, but I think she's always shown herself worthy of my respect.
You mean they're selling our oil from foreign countries to foreign countries?
Those Bastards!
Rmj, Sylar's Evil Twin | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 7:18 pm | #
You left out the part where this practice results in higher fuel prices.
Oh, great. Now I've got "Octopus' Garden" in my head. watertiger
I keep thinking of this Lake.
NTodd: I did discuss it.
And were completely unmoved, I know. You knew what you thought, facts be damned!
And for fuck's sake, I couldn't come up with another way to say that GJCC's hordes didn't force her resignation.
Fuck it -- believe what you like, it doesn't matter.
.
Yeah, don't nobody be hatin' on Tena. I don't always agree with her, but I think she's always shown herself worthy of my respect.
Word strait motherfucking up.
I suspect that would be something like trying to suck a Mickey D's thick shake through a straw.
Which is, to say, impossible.
Man, I love those Wendy's Frostys!
Fuck it -- believe what you like, it doesn't matter.
There ya go. Just let it go. It's over.
Say what you want about Tena (gosh knows there's been some nasty shit written of late), but don't make shit up about how she "might" be.
She wouldn't stoop to it.
Yeah, don't nobody be hatin' on Tena. I don't always agree with her, but I think she's always shown herself worthy of my respect.
Word strait motherfucking up.
smalfish, tinfoil hatted | 06.16.07 - 7:22 pm | #
Agreed. All I was pointing out was cause and effect. Blog about "the man" and someone copping the Atrios ID.
Tim Russert never once talked back to his mother.
I keep thinking of this Lake.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
She wouldn't stoop to it.
Precisely.
This shit's getting really old.
Tim Russert never once talked back to his mother.
He better not have after that birthing experience.
So - it's like Brittney never left, hunh? I had no idea that these things were to be hashed out for bloody ever, obsessively, and pointlessly.
Since that is so, I'm gone. I don't live in Nashville and thus am plainly on the wrong blog.
Be good.
and now I must go eat some delicious shrimp for dinner.
ciao, dolci.
And were completely unmoved, I know. You knew what you thought, facts be damned!
Nope, facts not be damned. I've looked at the facts and arrived at a dispassionate conclusion. You, however, being at one time infatuated with Britster refuse to see how it's at all possible that people could freak about linking without comment to a hateful screed about a recently-deceased friend.
And for fuck's sake, I couldn't come up with another way to say that GJCC's hordes didn't force her resignation.
I don't see where you ever said anything like that. If you're counting the "last straw" thing, then why do you find it "ironic" that the General's involved at all?
Fuck it -- believe what you like, it doesn't matter.
Gosh, I appreciate getting your permission after you told me to fuck my opinion. That's really sweet of you.
I feel very confident Tena would never type f&@%.
and people claim that perpetual motion is impossible.
I suspect that would be something like trying to suck a Mickey D's thick shake through a straw.
Now you done it.
I want ONE!
I don't see where you ever said anything like that.
I know you don't see. You already know, case fucking closed. Thanks!
.
"No one knows the Borg as I do. No one does. No one can."
Gosh, I appreciate getting your permission
Now now. Let's go to the center of the ring and shake hands and be done with this, humn?
I know you don't see. You already know, case fucking closed. Thanks!
Bravo. You win the coveted Draco Drama Queen Award with Obtuse Oak Clusters.
Terry C - Backyard Burger's shakes are better.
Or you could just go see NTodd at the Tastee Freeze.
Yeah, don't nobody be hatin' on Tena.
Is anyone actually hatin' on her here?
Seems the disagreement is all about that Jesus' General incident.
Tim Russert never once talked back to his mother.
http://thumbsnap.com/v/oWgf8tOe.gif
Our grandchildren's grandchildren will not be learning about the fabled "Odeirno's Charge" in their history classes.
Desk jockeys and brown nosers.
They're the only ones that even make general anymore.
"Jean Luc, blow up the damn ship!"
"NO! NOOOOOOOO!"
Snow - do I need to research Combustion Drive to increase IPM range?
Terry C - Backyard Burger's shakes are better.
Jennifer
Don't have Backyard Burger.
Everyone grieves loss - some just do it more publicly.
"The line must be drawn here! No farther! I will make them PAY for what they have DONE!"
Well, the war for oil has been put aside for squabbles and zits.
Terry - actually, the Purple Cow's shakes are teh best, but no one but Little Rock has a Purple Cow.
(note to ror - running live on Sci-Fi on the west coast right now)
Snow - do I need to research Combustion Drive to increase IPM range?
NTodd, Octothorpist | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 7:30 pm | #
aYUP, you do.
aYUP, you do.
WICked!
WICked!
smalfish, tinfoil hatted | 06.16.07 - 7:32 pm | #
Precisely my sentiment....
Now, if only Swan would come by to blogwhore, my experience here would be complete...
(note to ror - running live on Sci-Fi on the west coast right no
What's running live?
Now, if only Swan would come by to blogwhore, my experience here would be complete..
You don't know the power of the Dark Side!
Just wondering who the last American KIA general was (excluding plane crashes or vehicle mishaps), and when?
Anyone know?
Snow - do I need to research Combustion Drive to increase IPM range?
Are you targeting me? No. Good. In that case it it impulse drive.
You don't know the power of the Dark Side!
smalfish, tinfoil hatted | 06.16.07 - 7:35 pm |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u...h?
v=ua8WtVTi8vk
Tim Russert never once talked back to his mother.
Tim Russert is the product of external fertilization. His father and mother released their gametes in a pitcher of Budweiser behind a Buffalo bar after masturbating each other to a picture of a naked Lawrence Welk.
Tim Russert is the product of external fertilization. His father and mother released their gametes in a pitcher of Budweiser behind a Buffalo bar after masturbating each other to a picture of a naked Lawrence Welk.
LO effin' L!!!
What's running live?
Star Trek: First Contact
Autodestruct in progress!
Tim Russert is the product of external fertilization. His father and mother released their gametes in a pitcher of Budweiser behind a Buffalo bar after masturbating each other to a picture of a naked Lawrence Welk.
Now that's downright uncivil to your fellow commenter's.
"There will be no further audio warning".
Thank Zeus!
You've got a hell of a blog there, spocko.
Are you targeting me? No. Good. In that case it it impulse drive.
That's what I originally thought, but then I was thinking that didn't make sense and it was easier to ask than search through the fucking game board.
Eh, I think right now I'm just gonna keep building fleet until I can focus.
As far as the last American General killed by enemy fire, I suspect this may be our guy:
Brig. Gen. William R. Bond, commander of the U.S. 199th Light Infantry Brigade, was killed by enemy small-arms fire Wednesday. He was the fifth American general killed in action in the Vietnam War - the previous four died in aircraft crashes.
Da Nang.
You've got a hell of a blog there, spocko.
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 7:38 pm | #
spocko turned me on to the Pipettes, and for that, I shall always be grateful
Everyone grieves loss - some just do it more publicly.
Grieving in public is stupid and I would never do that.
"Let's rock and roll!"
Now that's downright uncivil to your fellow commenter's.
NTodd used to allow gamete release while customers played with Ken and Barbie dolls of WGG and Tena fighting off poopie language.
friedman is a calendar
by which we measure our pain
Grieving in public is stupid and I would never do that.
NTodd, Octothorpist | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 7:40 pm | #
Wicked !
We are all spocko.
Everyone grieves loss - some just do it more publicly.
Some insist we should do it with them.
friedman is a calendar
by which we measure our pain
illyakran | 06.16.07 - 7:40 pm | #
Noyce!
Apprentice to Darth Holden
Ah. Thanks.
Remember in the movie Alien where Ripley started the auto destruct process? I zoomed in on the wording of the sign above the autodistruct nukes. What surprised me was that they had the same instructions in both English and French!
So I think we know who will still have nukes and be large and in charge in the 23 century. Either France or Canada.
We are all spocko.
Richard | 06.16.07 - 7:41 pm | #
Are we not libs ?
Grieving in public is stupid and I would never do that.
NTodd, Octothorpist | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 7:40 pm | #
wallmarts sells 'grieving ash home kits' for 18.95 but their 'fluorescent public funeral gown (complete with LED obituary display) runs for about 34.95
Grieving in public is stupid and I would never do that.
NTodd, Octothorpist | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 7:40 pm | #
Wicked !
Gilly Gonzylon | 06.16.07 - 7:40 pm | #
That's more a British usage. 'Wicked' in my world is an adjective equivalent to 'very'. Although, if you take the Heathers approach, you could change "that's so very" to "that's so wicked."
Are we not libs ?
No.
We are DEVO.
The cult.
That's more a British usage. 'Wicked' in my world is an adjective equivalent to 'very'. Although, if you take the Heathers approach, you could change "that's so very" to "that's so wicked."
NTodd, Octothorpist | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 7:42 pm | #
aYup, I agree
Timmeh's talking with walking corpse Tom Brokaw about Big Russ.
Shocked I say!
Everyone grieves loss - some just do it more publicly.
When my father died back in 1983, over a hundred people showed up at his funeral. The vast majority of them never met my father, let alone knew him. I found myself really resenting their presence. Why were they intruding on this family moment?
Doom Three. Don't you make me reinstall your pathetic fucking ass.
Just.
Don't
Do
It.
So I think we know who will still have nukes and be large and in charge in the 23 century. Either France or Canada.
As long as the instructions are not in German or Hebrew or found at Pajamas Media, we'll be OK.
When my father died back in 1983, over a hundred people showed up at his funeral. The vast majority of them never met my father, let alone knew him. I found myself really resenting their presence. Why were they intruding on this family moment?
I was there to pick up women.
Thanks folks! Thought I'd tell you what I got via email today. Cathrine Moy who co-wrote the book "American Mourning" with Melanie Morgan dropped me a note that talked about how the anonymity of bloggers will be busted after some defamation case. (Reuters today)
It was a threat, "we'll find out who you are so we can smear you like we did Cindy".
This from the "award winning journalist" who provided salacious about Cindy Sheehan!
Timmeh's talking with walking corpse Tom Brokaw about Big Russ.
Shocked I say!
Karatist Preacher | 06.16.07 - 7:44 pm | #
Stern slut Stuttering John tried to get Brokaw to say "Red Leather, yellow leather" during an interview. What can I say, it was funny.
I found myself really resenting their presence. Why were they intruding on this family moment?
Your father may have touched more lives than you know...which means he lives still in many more memories than you know.
This is not a bad thing.
My sister just sent me this one.
Chripes on a cracker!
http://www.comcast.net/news/
stra...h=itn_margarita
Good night
Good bye
Speaking of which, try to get someone to say (out loud)
"The Smart Fellas, they Felt Smart"
(you can't get the enjoyment if you read it off the screen)
Timmeh's talking with walking corpse Tom Brokaw about Big Russ.
If I had a dollar for every time these two had a two-man circle jerk about their generational envy masked as admiration, I could buy myself a nice steak dinner tonight
Oh ya. I forgot I had this. This one's for NTodd!
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Your father may have touched more lives than you know...
Given the circumstances of his life and death, that is unlikely.
Cooking and eating dinner does not allow me to keep up. I need more time, or a cook.
I found myself really resenting their presence. Why were they intruding on this family moment?
Same with Mom's memorial last year. For me it wasn't an intrusion generally, but I was annoyed that so many people kind of expected me to help them with their grief. But it was nice that so many people were there and clearly touched by Mom's life.
You can say "Pumpkin Head" in Spanish - it is "Calabases Cranium"
Timmeh's talking with walking corpse Tom Brokaw about Big Russ.
If I had a dollar for every time these two had a two-man circle jerk about their generational envy masked as admiration, I could buy myself a nice steak dinner tonight
Jim
Pretty one-note, are they not?
NTodd, I have no doubt that your mom did touch many lives, and I'm sure your attendees did wish they had some way of making that known.
She sounds as if she was a very lovely lady, and the world is poorer for her not being with us.
I had someone recently criticize me for not getting on a plane to fly to California for a mutual friend's funeral.
But the one thing you shouldn't do with your grief is to be politically active against the event that caused the death of your loved one. That is JUST NOT DONE (by people on the right). '
Ann Coulter and of course Melanie Morgan did all the right wing a favor by attacking people who used their grief for political purposes.
I had someone recently criticize me for not getting on a plane to fly to California for a mutual friend's funeral.
Maybe if they'd given you carbon offsets you would've gone?
Cooking and eating dinner does not allow me to keep up. I need more time, or a cook.
mer
I was just thinking the same thing, mer.
And by the time I catch up on one topic, the thread's veered off in several other directions.
After twenty nine days. I think my computer needs a fucking reboot. I hate that shit. MS really sucks. They should have made their operating system more reliable!!!
"Watch your futures end"
Diane C, sort of like great art, you just have to let it wash over you.
how about another Bombay martini?
But the one thing you shouldn't do with your grief is to be politically active against the event that caused the death of your loved one. That is JUST NOT DONE (by people on the right).
That's one reason why Walter Mondale isn't my state's Senator right now...
Same with Mom's memorial last year. For me it wasn't an intrusion generally, but I was annoyed that so many people kind of expected me to help them with their grief. But it was nice that so many people were there and clearly touched by Mom's life.
NTodd, Octothorpist | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 7:49 pm | #
Sorry for your loss, Ntodd. Always a terrible moment, never the right things to say.
Maybe if they'd given you carbon offsets you would've gone?
NTodd
That wasn't the issue-- for me, it was money, and work commitments.
My point is this: there is tremendous social pressure to go to funerals. You're a bad person if you don't go. It's bullshit. People have all sorts of reasons for going to or not going to funerals, and it's extremely tacky to question those motives, imo.
I had someone recently criticize me for not getting on a plane to fly to California for a mutual friend's funeral.
I did not grieve enough at a funeral apparently and was told so by other attendees. I said that "I'm not really upset he was gone. And apparently he agreed with me because he shot himself in the head."
Hey is 4legsgood here?
I had some amazing conversations about the pet food recall and the new findings of acetaminophen in pet food.
My point is this: there is tremendous social pressure to go to funerals. You're a bad person if you don't go. It's bullshit. People have all sorts of reasons for going to or not going to funerals, and it's extremely tacky to question those motives, imo.
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 7:54 pm | #
I refuse to even show up to mine.
I did not grieve enough at a funeral apparently and was told so by other attendees. I said that "I'm not really upset he was gone. And apparently he agreed with me because he shot himself in the head."
Snow, Contrary
Thanks to Snow, Sallyh, I'm gonna need that next martini. The last one is dripping down the face of my monitor.
But yea, at this point I won't fly at all, for any reason.
I had some amazing conversations about the pet food recall and the new findings of acetaminophen in pet food.
spocko | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 7:55 pm | #
What, cats don't get headaches? Imagine sleeping 20 hrs a day.
smalfish, tinfoil hatted
You got 29 days! That's like a world record! I think I got 11 on W2k that was my ultimate and that was because I was away for 7 of the 11 days!
Moe - I was actually kidding. Here are some Snark Offsets...
Diane C. Barking-Mad, I did make one New Year's resolution last year. Not to try to read the entire thread before I dived back in. I'm sure I miss some wise and witty things, but at least I don't feel an hour behind.
I refuse to even show up to mine.
Gilly Gonzylon
Hey, they can take whatever organs, bones, skin they can use to help other people.
Cremate the rest. A month or two later,when everyone is more emotionally stable, have a memorial ceremony.
Or don't have one - I don't give a shit. I won't be around.
You got 29 days! That's like a world record! I think I got 11 on W2k that was my ultimate and that was because I was away for 7 of the 11 days!
I build my systems to last. Sadly MS does not concur. Otherwise I'd be able to boot right into Doom 3 right fucking now. 29 days or not.
Same with Mom's memorial last year. For me it wasn't an intrusion generally, but I was annoyed that so many people kind of expected me to help them with their grief.
You know, if the folks who showed up to my father's funeral were actually grieving, then I wouldn't have had a problem with it. The folks that raised my ire were just hangers on essentially, someone who knew someone who knew someone, etc. .
I'm sure I miss some wise and witty things all said by Zap.
fyt 
With that, I must go figure out what I'm gonna be doing for the rest of the night w/ Zapette.
Later!
acetaminophen is toxic to dogs and cats. The lab that found it in pet food is having it's competence questioned by the FDA and it's reputation trashed by another lab that has a big contract with a pet food manufacture.
Or don't have one - I don't give a shit. I won't be around.
Terry C - End Bush's War Now! | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 7:59 pm | #
I'm gonna make it rough, as I'm requesting "Revolution 9" be played on a loop.
NTodd-- we'll have to agree to disagree on the carbon offset thing.
I will say, tho, I had an interesting conversation that touched on that with a lawyer who goes to all the international meetings on climate change-- Kyoto, EU, IPCC, etc.
He was emphatic that it was "lead and assist, in that order"-- western nations had to lead, show that it's possible to have funcitonal, livable societies that don't emit much in the way of GHG. Then, we help other nations structure their societies in similar fashion. From his point of view, it simply doesn't work the other way around-- somehow convince developing countries to lower their GHG emissions even below their current levels, then at some point down the road, lower ours. I see his logic, and agree.
I know you think otherwise.
to quote the great Lou Grant, I just wanna be stood out with the trash, with my hat on
Why does the western version of an afterlife sound like a socialist utopia ?
acetaminophen is toxic to dogs and cats. The lab that found it in pet food is having it's competence questioned by the FDA and it's reputation trashed by another lab that has a big contract with a pet food manufacture.
Well isn't that just so typical of this administration. Blame instead of fix.
Motherfucking fuckers!
Heaven has unions?
Clocks run backwards over there, that's all.
Heaven has unions?
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 8:05 pm | #
No working, everything free...Hee hee
Heaven has unions?
It better have oral sex and good scotch or I am going to spend eternity trashing god on this blog.
Republicans hate Hollywood: a pictoral essay.
I think when I go I want to be thrown into that algae pond in the movie Waterworld. Either that or Soylent Green. "From the bounty of the Ocean" derived from plankton, natures most perfect food.
NTodd-- we'll have to agree to disagree on the carbon offset thing.
I don't think we disagree as much as you think. And as I said, I was joking, not trying to make any point whatsoever.
Heaven has unions?
Moe Szyslak
It's all union in Heaven. Hell is at-will - Satan's not into all that time-and-a-half and OSHA shit.
My point is this: there is tremendous social pressure to go to funerals. You're a bad person if you don't go. It's bullshit.
I agree absolutely. From my own point of view, if you didn't really know or care for the person, there is no point for you to be there.
My mother died last year. At her request, there was no funeral. My family got together, but we grieved in private.
Stinky, dammit, and here I thought I was going to Hell with all my friends.
I know you think otherwise.
No, I don't, actually.
I just view offsets as a tool in the toolkit. We ain't gonna cut emissions overnight and offsets can be a part of the solution if implemented correctly.
So again, we don't disagree as much as you believe.
Good enough.
On flying, btw. I've been playing with data from Environment Canada, and if you use the IPCC multiplier of 2.7 for aviation, flights into and out of Halifax International, (which is small, as airports go) already have about the same effect, climate change-wise, as all the cars and SUVs in the province.
Funerals are pretty pointless if you aren't religious. A Wake, a celebration is fine.
But getting dressed up in monkey suit is not my vision for how I want people to treat my corpse.
First, there will be cremation. Then alcohol. The end.
friedman,russert,tweety, repeat and repeat, ad nauseum. shallow repertoire. these straw men are flawed, but hardly worthy of the bandwidth.
On flying, btw. I've been playing with data from Environment Canada, and if you use the IPCC multiplier of 2.7 for aviation, flights into and out of Halifax International, (which is small, as airports go) already have about the same effect, climate change-wise, as all the cars and SUVs in the province.
Fucking planes put out so much pollution and don't seem to be regulated at all. And the noise! Damn, but they make a racket, again with no regulation.
I've been playing with data from Environment Canada, and if you use the IPCC multiplier of 2.7 for aviation, flights into and out of Halifax International, (which is small, as airports go) already have about the same effect, climate change-wise, as all the cars and SUVs in the province.
I've seen stuff recently that shows a lot of the IPCC assumptions are too goddamned conservative, which is rather troubling. But golly, we wouldn't want to worry people...
Funerals are pretty pointless if you aren't religious. A Wake, a celebration is fine.
I had a scientific colleague who knew he was dying in a few weeks. He and his close friends organized a wonderful wake that he attended.
First, there will be cremation. Then alcohol. The end.
trifecta
I'm pitching a story Monday on green burials. Cremation is horrible, environmentally. Takes a lot of energy to turn a corpse into ashes.
getting dressed up in monkey suit is not my vision for how I want people to treat my corpse.
I wore pants to Mom's memorial.
acetaminophen is toxic to dogs and cats. The lab that found it in pet food is having it's competence questioned by the FDA and it's reputation trashed by another lab that has a big contract with a pet food manufacture.
Well isn't that just so typical of this administration. Blame instead of fix.
Motherfucking fuckers!
smalfish, tinfoil hatted | 06.16.07 - 8:05 pm | #
This seems to be typical of so many repukes, it must be a genetic trait.
I've seen stuff recently that shows a lot of the IPCC assumptions are too goddamned conservative, which is rather troubling. But golly, we wouldn't want to worry people...
They don't want to be seen as alarmists. Yet they already are being called that.
I'm pitching a story Monday on green burials. Cremation is horrible, environmentally. Takes a lot of energy to turn a corpse into ashes.
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 8:13 pm | #
I want to be treated like Ralphie in the Sopranos
I would love to be dumped in the ocean Moe. I don't give a crap to be honest. I don't want my family paying funeral expenses, embalming, casket and the like. If you could turn me into fertilizer, that would be cool.
Spinoza, clearly your friend didn't want to miss possibly the best party of his life 
I'd be fine with being composted.
I'm pitching a story Monday on green burials. Cremation is horrible, environmentally. Takes a lot of energy to turn a corpse into ashes.
Moe Szyslak
I've heard that the best way to dispose of a corpse, from an environmental POV, is to leave in to the carrion birds and the bugs. Illegal in most western countries, isn't it?
I've seen stuff recently that shows a lot of the IPCC assumptions are too goddamned conservative, which is rather troubling. But golly, we wouldn't want to worry people...
Yep. Especially when it comes to runaway global warming and cataclysmic events.
All my grandparents got cremated with no services. My father in law we had a funeral for, so that really is the only family funeral I have attended. Couldn't make it for my aunt and uncle who died out of country.
I'd be fine with being composted.
NTodd, Octothorpist | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 8:15 pm | #
I don't want orange peels near me (my kryptonite)
NTodd, we're burying you in a Tastee Freez pump.
My point is this: there is tremendous social pressure to go to funerals. You're a bad person if you don't go. It's bullshit. People have all sorts of reasons for going to or not going to funerals, and it's extremely tacky to question those motives, imo.
Moe Szyslak
In my experience, it's three months later when the memorials are long over and everyone thinks the affected should be "moving on" that they really need the support. And weirdly enough, that's when no one has the time for grief.
I've heard that the best way to dispose of a corpse, from an environmental POV, is to leave in to the carrion birds and the bugs. Illegal in most western countries, isn't it?
I don't think the environment is capable of digesting that many humans in a day.
Funerals are pretty pointless if you aren't religious. A Wake, a celebration is fine.
But getting dressed up in monkey suit is not my vision for how I want people to treat my corpse.
First, there will be cremation. Then alcohol. The end.
That is exactly how my mother felt. Exactly.
I would love to be dumped in the ocean Moe. I don't give a crap to be honest. I don't want my family paying funeral expenses, embalming, casket and the like. If you could turn me into fertilizer, that would be cool.
trifecta | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 8:15 pm | #
Its generally the religionists that worship the flesh, even after you're done using it.
This seems to be typical of so many repukes, it must be a genetic trait.
It's the use of Adam Smith and Ayn Rand to promote the worst traits in humans. The use of Adam Smith is dastardly. The use of Ayn Rand should just be taken out with the garbage and dumped down the into the other stupid philosophies of the libertarian four hole outhouse..
I'd be fine with being composted.
Shoot me into the sun.
Or at least into orbit.
I'm pitching a story Monday on green burials. Cremation is horrible, environmentally. Takes a lot of energy to turn a corpse into ashes.
Moe Szyslak
Admittedly, that's a problem.
Here's another. Cemetaries are filling up, and there isn't much land left to set aside for new ones.
Here's another. Cemetaries are filling up, and there isn't much land left to set aside for new ones.
Diane C. Barking-Mad | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 8:18 pm | #
Manhattan style
I don't know about down there (yet), but in Canada it's nearly impossible to have a green burial.
When we were at the funeral home for my father in law, the director was trying to shop us $10,000 coffins, even though my father in law had a living will he wanted to be cremated. We were supposed to get a casket anyways so people "could see him".
I find it obscene.
I've heard that the best way to dispose of a corpse, from an environmental POV, is to leave in to the carrion birds and the bugs. Illegal in most western countries, isn't it?
Why not try a worm bin?
It's the use of Adam Smith and Ayn Rand to promote the worst traits in humans. The use of Adam Smith is dastardly.
'specially since they seem to have expunged his skepticism about the free market and merchants when it comes to the public interest.
Here's another. Cemetaries are filling up, and there isn't much land left to set aside for new ones.
Diane C. Barking-Mad
I tell ya, country clubs and cemeteries are the biggest waste of prime real estate-- just a bunch of dead people
I'm pitching a story Monday on green burials. Cremation is horrible, environmentally. Takes a lot of energy to turn a corpse into ashes.
The Scandinavians freeze-dry corpses first. Apparently that helps with the pollution.
Cemetaries are filling up, and there isn't much land left to set aside for new ones.
Vanity is thy name. We must be remembered at all costs!
I've got a neighbour who is the grave digger at the cemetery across the street. Things shift around a lot, over time, and tombstones get lost, and so forth. She's finding skeletons all the time, when she's digging new graves.
I've heard that the best way to dispose of a corpse, from an environmental POV, is to leave in to the carrion birds and the bugs. Illegal in most western countries, isn't it?
Lyme dust
Here's another. Cemetaries are filling up, and there isn't much land left to set aside for new ones.
Diane C. Barking-Mad
Well, that and the embalming chemicals, which don't exactly breakdown into water and plant food.
I understand there's something of a toxic waste problem there, after the vault finally decays and the chemicals start to leach.
Here's where we're depositing my mother's ashes...
Thunder Bay lookout
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P...h?
v=Pg2lh_4FZcQ
She's finding skeletons all the time, when she's digging new graves.
"She"? Aren't you riddled with guilt for not helping her dig ?
Vanity is thy name. We must be remembered at all costs!
smalfish, tinfoil hatted
And when was the last time any of us visited a cemetary?
And when was the last time any of us visited a cemetary?
Well duh!
At the last funeral.
And when was the last time any of us visited a cemetary?
Rmj, Sylar's Evil Twin | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 8:21 pm | #
There's that cool one in Hollywood.
My word, an old friend from California just showed up at my door. Gotta go, later all.
And when was the last time any of us visited a cemetary?
Rmj, Sylar's Evil Twin
I have three cousins, whose feelings toward their father ranged from hatred to bipolar ambivalence, who visit his grave and take their children.
There're none so queer as folk.
She's finding skeletons all the time, when she's digging new graves.
Just like in Hamlet!
And when was the last time any of us visited a cemetary?
I do rather often. I like taking pictures. And I still feel compelled to visit some specific graves when I'm in the area.
But they are silly.
I think they should bury us all in huge mass graves. That way, after the survivors of the nuclear holocaust manage to repopulate the world and rebuild civilization sufficiently to need petrochemicals millions of years from now, they will have adequate supply.
Well duh!
At the last funeral.
smalfish, tinfoil hatted
Look for anyone you knew?
I look for my own grave. Haven't found it yet, so I'm still optimistic.
I think they should bury us all in huge mass graves.
I want my embalming fluid, dammit! That way I can look dead for years.
Suck shit through an oil pipe, Jennifer!
So what was the motivation for the invasion? Oil has been ruled out here people.
smalfish, tinfoil hatted
How'bout massive no-bid endles contracts being used to loot the tresury. You can't hire them to "fix" it if you don't break it first.
And when was the last time any of us visited a cemetary?
Rmj, Sylar's Evil Twin | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 8:21 pm | #
There's that cool one in Hollywood.
Gilly Gonzylon
I went to Pere Lachaise once. After about forty minutes I admitted to myself if was really boring.
It was after they cleaned up Morrison's grave, too.
I think they should bury us all in huge mass graves. That way, after the survivors of the nuclear holocaust manage to repopulate the world and rebuild civilization sufficiently to need petrochemicals millions of years from now, they will have adequate supply.
Jennifer-
I like the way you think. Can I get my descendents a few cents for my biofuel self?
Just driving by - thought you'd like to see who's on tomorrow morning.
Sunday Breakfast Menu, June 17
Seymour Hersh is gonna be on Late Edition. He's always interesting.
later!
When I was in Williamstown, MA, I was flabbergasted at the number of cemetaries everywhere I drove.
Damn Holoscan!
Let me try again.
The tricks that the FDA is using to hold information back are classic.
I tried to get the journalists to tell them to knock it off (press conferences with only one question per paper and no follow ups) and after I suggested they all get together and request that the FDA stopped all press conferences (China was in town, can't embarrass the landlord)
So now I'm trying to help the pet parents who have been taking the food testing into their own hands. The LA Times will have a story about a few of them on Monday. Their story is only part of the big picture. They FDA is very aware that there are problems but they are providing cover for the pet food companies.
I'm trying to make sure that the "average citizens" understand all the tricks used by the corporations and the government labs whose allegiance isn't always to human safety.
What I've found is just how damn smart and dedicated and brave some "average citizens" are.
I was telling them about how corporations decide that you are easier to squish than to fix the problem and what to do about it.
On a slightly less serious topic, I'm going to the bookstore tomorrow. Any recommendations?
On a slightly less serious topic, I'm going to the bookstore tomorrow. Any recommendations?
Diane C. Barking-Mad | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 8:25 pm | #
"Going After Caicciato"
zI do rather often. I like taking pictures. And I still feel compelled to visit some specific graves when I'm in the area.
But they are silly.
NTodd, Octothorpist
I did, in Nacogdoches,just because the town was so old.
And I used to live next to one. Visited there more than once.
But we visit cemetaries (as a society) the way we visit hospitals. What is humorous is imagining a headstone means we'll be remembered. Our loved ones won't forget us. Strangers don't know what our tombstone means.
So it goes.
Going after Cacciato -
Written by author Tim O'Brien and winner of the National Book Award for fiction in 1979, this complex novel is set during the Vietnam War and is told from the point of view of the protagonist, Paul Berlin. The story traces the events that ensue after Cacciato, a member of Berlin's squad, decides to go AWOL by walking from Vietnam to France, through Asia. Cacciato, pronounced "catch-ee-ah-to," means "hunted"/"caught" in Italian.
Rmj's such a fucking ray of sunshine...
btw: Listening to NPR, talking to a bunch of Republicans in Georgia. They're disgusted by the GOP, not over Iraq, not over Gonzalez, but about illegal immigration.
They blame illegal aliens for increasing health care costs.
My god, you can never underestimate these people.
On a slightly less serious topic, I'm going to the bookstore tomorrow. Any recommendations?
Diane C. Barking-Mad
Just bought a copy of Camus' "The Plague." And "A Texas Cowboy," by Charles Siringo. The real thing: a cowboy memoir.
The new Penguin Proust is good, too. The first volume will hold you for quite awhile.
RMJ, like Jim, the last cemetery I visited was Pere Lachaise. It was somewhat interesting, but, then again, everyone was dead. Conversation with the inhabitants was rather stilted
On a slightly less serious topic, I'm going to the bookstore tomorrow. Any recommendations?
Can you pee on any Ann Coulter books?
Rmj's such a fucking ray of sunshine...
NTodd, Octothorpist
Well, at least I get noticed.
NTodd, if RMJ ever comes around here acting perky, I'm calling him 911 and having him examined for head injuries.
Any recommendations?
The assault on reason.
On a slightly less serious topic, I'm going to the bookstore tomorrow. Any recommendations?
Virginia bot me Mars Needs Moms. But that's probably a shorter read than you're looking for...
They blame illegal aliens for increasing health care costs.
I find it difficult to argue against this point. Low wage workers (ie: undocumented ) have no coverage and no way to get it, so the burden goes to the public hospital. If we had national healthcare, this would not be a problem.
Diane, No God But God is definitely worth a read.
"They blame illegal aliens for increasing health care costs.
My god, you can never underestimate these people."
That remaining core that is just beginning to disengage from Bush were the true believers. A discussion on immigration has merit, but they are using it as one more tool in their arsenal. The immigration debate is great for getting their xenophobic rocks off.
American Gods by Neil Gaiman.
Everybody I know who read it likes it.*
*I only know 4 people.
A friend who traveled to the UAE told me something I didn't know. 110 degrees in the shade (we all know) - 90 percent humidity (I didn't know)
trifecta, have you read Pratchett/Gaiman's 'Good Omens'? Hilarious.
libertarian four hole outhouse..
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in
So that's two holes upstairs and two holes down?
Speaking of cemetaries, here's one of my favorite new blogs
"90 percent humidity (I didn't know)"
And people live in that?
I find it difficult to argue against this point. Low wage workers (ie: undocumented ) have no coverage and no way to get it, so the burden goes to the public hospital. If we had national healthcare, this would not be a problem.
Some of the variance may be due to the poor needing care. But most of the burden is because we have a system that feeds corporate coffers on the backs of the sick and dying.
A discussion on immigration has merit, but they are using it as one more tool in their arsenal. The immigration debate is great for getting their xenophobic rocks off.
EkCenTriK
They also pronounce the name Ted Kennedy with a venom usually reserved for Hitler or Stalin.
Smalfish- That's true, but it can't all be blamed on undocumented workers. It's true of most of the uninsured from what I understand
The best political book I recently read was Conservatives without conscience by John Dean. It really was interesting and very insightful. It gave me a whole new vocabulary on how to talk about the Right Wing authoritarians in the White House. Joe Conason recommended it to everyone when he was out reading from his new book "It could happen here"
(Which is also swell)
And people live in that?
EkCenTriK | 06.16.07 - 8:32 pm | #
Quite well, apparently. And Ukranian 10+ hookers (I didn't know that)
have you read Pratchett/Gaiman's 'Good Omens'? Hilarious.
Fucking awesome.
Loved Neverwhere, too, and enjoyed Stardust. Have American Gods but haven't read it yet.
I think they should bury us all in huge mass graves. That way, after the survivors of the nuclear holocaust manage to repopulate the world and rebuild civilization sufficiently to need petrochemicals millions of years from now, they will have adequate supply.
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems...14/
18427565.php
"We need something like whales, but infinitely more abundant," said "NPC rep" "Shepard Wolff" (actually Andy Bichlbaum of the Yes Men), before describing the technology used to render human flesh into a new Exxon oil product called Vivoleum. 3-D animations of the process brought it to life.
"Vivoleum works in perfect synergy with the continued expansion of fossil fuel production," noted "Exxon rep" "Florian Osenberg" (Yes Man Mike Bonanno). "With more fossil fuels comes a greater chance of disaster, but that means more feedstock for Vivoleum. Fuel will continue to flow for those of us left."
The oilmen listened to the lecture with attention, and then lit "commemorative candles" supposedly made of Vivoleum obtained from the flesh of an "Exxon janitor" who died as a result of cleaning up a toxic spill. The audience only reacted when the janitor, in a video tribute, announced that he wished to be transformed into candles after his death, and all became crystal-clear.
It's the use of Adam Smith and Ayn Rand to promote the worst traits in humans.
Objectivism, like every other utopian idea, is a house of cards that would require everyone to behave in exactly the right way to function at all. It is a completely impractical vision of how things should be even if it were desirable result, which it sure as hell wouldn't be for the vast majority of people.
Anything by Prachett's good. I read the "new" Tolkien, Children of Hurin. Good, but v. depressing.
I read the "new" Tolkien, Children of Hurin. Good, but v. depressing.
Concur. But hey, nobody lives forever...
I read Good Omens too. enjoyed as well.
Thanks for all the suggestions, folks. I've written them down. I can tell I'm going to have fun tomorrow.
And now it's time for me to sign off and finish Iris Murdoch's "The Bell" which I think is one of her better novels.
'm going to the bookstore tomorrow. Any recommendations?
"The London Hanged," by Richard Seymour.
Or, if you're in the mood for fiction, maybe Flannery O'Connor's "The Violent Bear it Away," or Kevin Baker's novels, or Martha Cooley, maybe.
And there are always the lesbian pulp fiction books by the likes of Ann Bannon, Valerie Taylor and Vin Packer.
What are you in the mood to read?
Ntoddler, you should read American Gods.
It was just so fresh to me. I think it's Gaiman's best work.
Anything by Prachett's good. I read the "new" Tolkien, Children of Hurin. Good, but v. depressing.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 8:35 pm
Wasn't the most uplifting of stories, neither in 'short' form in the Silmarillion, or in CoH.
Rmj, Sylar's Evil Twin
I notice ya Rmj! I was just thinking about you the other day. I was discussing how I wanted someone to theologically kick the crap out of the right wing "Christians" like Dobson who have no problem with the Iraq war.
The ones who have hijacked Christianity into some twisted old testament revenge and hating cult.
I like Jim Wallis' writing in Sojourners but as a speaker/debater he isn't really into calling these people on their anti-Christian views.
"90 percent humidity (I didn't know)"
Wow. I assumed it would be unlivable, but that us downright livable.
It's true of most of the uninsured from what I understand
How many uninsured white people are there in this country? A high school friend of my daughter's was recently diagnosed with leukemia and has started treatment. The community is doing a fundraiser for him. He has no health insurance. He was doing some construction work in Florida and didn't have coverage. Now he's back home with his parents - 24 years old.
Gilly Gonzylon
Humidity is my enemy. I literally cannot take high humidity for more than a couple of days. After that, nasty things happen to me.
Wow. I assumed it would be unlivable, but that us downright livable.
Snow, Contrary | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 8:38 pm | #
You must be from the south...
I hate seeing the jars at local stores for employees, or family members who have medical crises.
It's swell for the employers to let them raise money there. Health care would be nicer though.
I do understand some small businesses are so marginal that they can't practically afford it. That's where society, and our government should be fucking stepping in.
spocko, I read about that email you got from that bitch.
Forewarned is forearmed.
100 quatloos to Masculine Monica for asking the question I should have asked first:
What are you in the mood to read?
masculine_monica_nyc
And what/who do you LIKE to read?
Ntoddler, you should read American Gods.
you're not the boss of me.
I'm going to the bookstore tomorrow. Any recommendations?
Terry Jones' Medieval Lives
by Terry Jones , Alan Ereira
Book Description
Renowned for lampooning the schoolboy view of the medieval world in Monty Python and the Holy Grail, Terry Jones is also regarded as a true connoisseur of the Middle Ages. In this lavish volume, he slays the dragons of cliché and platitude.
It was the Humanists who created the image of the Middle Ages as a time of ignorance, misery, and superstition, and it is this image that Medieval Lives aims to dispel. Terry Jones and Alan Ereira are your guides to this most misunderstood era, and they point you to things that will surprise and provoke. Did you know that medieval people didn’t burn witches in the Middle Ages? In fact, as our guides point out, medieval kings weren’t necessarily tyrants, and peasants entertained at home using French pottery and fine wine. An exhilarating, supremely entertaining volume presenting medieval Britain as a vibrant society teeming with individuality and innovation.
About the Author
Terry Jones is most famous as a member of Monty Python; he has also directed a number of feature films, including Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
Humidity is my enemy. I literally cannot take high humidity for more than a couple of days. After that, nasty things happen to me.
EkCenTriK | 06.16.07 - 8:39 pm | #
Me too. I start losing it. I hate waking up in a lake of sweat.
And a in pile of feces, but that's been 40 years.
Sadly, my fundraiser at the Fletcher General Store for penis augmentation surgery hasn't done so well.
you're not the boss of me.
My life for You!
Diane --
"Good Omens" is hilarious
"An Infinity of Little Hours: Five Young Men and Their Trial of Faith in the Western World's Most Austere Monastic Order" by Nancy Klein Maguire is impossible to put down
I recommend anything by David Gemmell to anyone who likes fantasy (he was simply the best)
I love Robert B. Parker's "Spenser" detective stories
BTW -- the Diocese of El Camino Real has just elected a 45 year old woman to be their next bishop
100 quatloos
Woo-hoo — now I can go book shopping!
My life for You!
Fetch me an eclair.
Evening, all
A book called 1491 is getting great review from everyone I who of who has read it. Describes the Americas before Columbus and deconstructs lots of what you thought you knew. I'm thinking I'll try that next.
Heya, spocko, I have a friend who now has thousands of dolllars in vet bills as a result of tainted food. She is not wealthy. The pet food companies are demanding all sorts documentation from the vet re: their heath but she has dozens of cats and dogs and thus does not always take all of them in for their exams, etc.
Any advice?
Masculine Monica Be sure to check the Quatloo to dollar exchange rates we are taking a beating against the Euro and the Yen. But if you are using rupees you are golden.
Fetch me an eclair.
I'd rather blow something up, if that's possible.
I love English mysteries, doesn't matter when they take place. Just finished a few by Jacqueline Winspear. Now it's Stella Whitelaw.
Diane --
"Good Omens" is hilarious
And if you like that that, and Phillip Pullman's His Dark Materials trilogy, you'll love Gaiman's "Neverwhere."
*burp*
Oh and at lunch I'm reading Dancing in the Streets by Ehrenreich and it's v. good, too.
Here is my question, they keep saying there are 12 million illegal aliens in the country. That is a state, a large city or even a modest country. Where are they?
My point is for that many people to be living off the grid means the structure of our society permits it. They really are not off the grid, we have the social scenario that permits it to happen and integrate them into it. We made the problem in this case. And suddenly, it is now a problem.
I am getting tired of seeing the little bible belt church lady writing her LTEs railing about the ugly, nasty immigrant. If she wants to see what part of the problem is, she should look in the mirror.
pie
You'd love Dorothy Sayer.
*burp*
How was the shrimp?
I am getting tired of seeing the little bible belt church lady writing her LTEs railing about the ugly, nasty immigrant. If she wants to see what part of the problem is, she should look in the mirror.
EkCenTriK | 06.16.07 - 8:45 pm | #
Gotta hate someone. Good for the proles.
Where's that Osama Goldstein ?
You'd love Dorothy Sayer.
Oooo. Thanks, Hecate. I'll look for her next.
Be sure to check the Quatloo to dollar exchange rates we are taking a beating against the Euro and the Yen. But if you are using rupees you are golden.
Don't tell anyone, spocko, but I maintain a top-secret rupee account and a flush euro account with the ever-reliable Riggs Bank.
I think I'm set for life!
*burp*
How was the shrimp?
pie | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 8:46 pm | #
Stop with the Herve Villachez jokes, please.
You'd love Dorothy Sayer.
If you read Dorothy Sayer while listening to Leon Sayer, your cortex will turn to lime jello.
Describes the Americas before Columbus and deconstructs lots of what you thought you knew.
Have you read "The People's History of the United States" by Howard Zinn?
That book blows all of our beloved myths to shreds.
Stop with the Herve Villachez jokes, please.
Zee plane! Zee plane!!!
rorschach --
I liked Pullman's "His Dark Materials" but felt the ending somehow didn't measure up to the promise of the opening -- "Neverwhere' will probably pop up around here (these things usually do)
How was the shrimp?
deeee-lish!
I love English mysteries, doesn't matter when they take place.
Have you read Minette Walters' mysteries? They're not bad.
*burp*
I *loved* that short story.
Have you read "The People's History of the United States" by Howard Zinn?
That book blows all of our beloved myths to shreds.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | 06.16.07 - 8:48 pm |
I've got it on tape, read by Matt Damon
Have you read "The People's History of the United States" by Howard Zinn?
That book blows all of our beloved myths to shreds.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | 06.16.07 - 8:48 pm | #
As does "Lies My Teacher Told Me."
watertiger,
I smelled that, even here!
Zee plane! Zee plane!!!
pie | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 8:48 pm | #
In that case, what was Herve Villachez favorite type of M&Ms?
Time to change laundry.
War On War Off
That's a great question. I'd recommend that she ask that question at PetConnection or Itchmo.com
I know that a lot of people have struggled with this issue and they can talk about what worked for them and what groups have helped.
I'm not really happy with the ASPCA these days, but on their web page they had some groups that they directed people to. (I don't know if they are just New York based or not)
I set up a conference call for the pet food recall bloggers and commenters yesterday and we talked about the financial burden that this is putting on people. The two big law firms will be doing class action suits won't be able to provide much financial relief and it sadly will be a long time coming.
Time to change laundry.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | 06.16.07 - 8:50 pm | #
Vicki's going through linenpause.
I smelled that, even here!
garlic.
The mere mention of Leo Sayer makes me want to slit my wrists.
Describes the Americas before Columbus and deconstructs lots of what you thought you knew. I'm thinking I'll try that next.
If there were no teepees I will be crushed.
I am getting tired of seeing the little bible belt church lady writing her LTEs railing about the ugly, nasty immigrant. If she wants to see what part of the problem is, she should look in the mirror.
EkCenTriK
Talked to a wingnut last night that verbalized the point of view that allowing an influx of immigrants (or giving them status by recognizing the ones already here)would swell the ranks of the impoverished and require taxpayers to pick up new welfare costs, education costs, etc.
If there were no teepees I will be crushed.
Culture of TrÜth | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 8:51 pm | #
Don't get tents over it.
Well then, I guess I woe MS an apology for the rant earlier. Seems I don't need a reboot after all. I had to reinstall the stupit game.
I shall now be civil and kill monsters without thinking.
From rorschach's joint:
"Usually, if a turd gets into the Senate, it’s because he or she was elected," Emily Heil reports for Roll Call. "But on Wednesday, several large piles of actual, nonmetaphorical 'No. 2' found their way into the Capitol, and the source isn’t yet clear."
Heil continues, "On Wednesday afternoon, Capitol Police cordoned off a section of the hallway on the third floor of the Senate side of the Capitol, where at least three piles of the stuff were causing a stench — and a stir. ...
Pete Domenici, was it?
Who will speak Truth to Power now?
I'm disillusioned.
Have you read "The People's History of the United States" by Howard Zinn?
I've got it on tape, read by Matt Damon
I saw it live: Inroduction to Political Theory -- Boston University -- 1984ish.
Watching "The Last King of Scotland."
I don't know anything about film technique, but I like the way this thing is lit and shot.
I saw it live: Inroduction to Political Theory -- Boston University -- 1984ish.
res ipsa loquitur | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 8:52 pm |
Well, you intellectual elite secularists would...
Have you read Minette Walters' mysteries? They're not bad.
Thanks. I search the mystery section of the library and find the authors/books I end up choosing mostly haphazardly, unless I recognize them. The selection there is okay, but I'm better off getting names and ordering them from the library system, which can all be done online.
Zinn's "History" is first rate!
pie -- I assume you've read all of P. D. James -- how about Br Cadfael (if you are indifferent to the time)? I don't like them for a number of reasons (not least of which is that the prior is a bad guy)
Thanks, spocko!
From rorschach's joint:
"Usually, if a turd gets into the Senate, it’s because he or she was elected," Emily Heil reports for Roll Call. "But on Wednesday, several large piles of actual, nonmetaphorical 'No. 2' found their way into the Capitol, and the source isn’t yet clear."
Heil continues, "On Wednesday afternoon, Capitol Police cordoned off a section of the hallway on the third floor of the Senate side of the Capitol, where at least three piles of the stuff were causing a stench — and a stir. ...
Pete Domenici, was it?
masculine_monica_nyc | 06.16.07 - 8:52 pm | #
Yeah.
If that won't get ya banned, nothin' will!
The mere mention of Leo Sayer makes me want to slit my wrists.
It doesn't make you feel like dancing?
all of P. D. James
Oh, that makes me think of Val McDermid, though she's Scottish, not British.
pie
You'd love Dorothy Sayer.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 8:46 pm |
My parents loved british mysteries, they got me addcited to Patricia Moyes, Josephine Tey, Dorothy Sayer.
There were a series of books that were a gentle satire/takeoff on James Bond, written under the psuedonym Patrick O'Malley: The Affair of Jolie Madame, The Affair of The Blue Pig. Fun stuff.
garlic.
Yummmmmmmmmmm.
War On War Off
You are most welcome.
"But on Wednesday, several large piles of actual, nonmetaphorical 'No. 2' found their way into the Capitol, and the source isn’t yet clear."
WTF?
Give me what I want and I'll go away? Fucking childish. Can we get a new congress please?
I'm whoring this bitchy post I wrote 'cause I think tigre will like it.
If that won't get ya banned, nothin' will!
Dood! I was being nice and hiveminded!
pie,
You often say you love garlic. I bet you like scampi.
I saw it live: Inroduction to Political Theory -- Boston University -- 1984ish.
res ipsa loquitur
You fortunate bastard!
garlic. Yummmmmmmmmmm.
If my meal hasn't got at least 3 cloves, it's crrrap!
My parents loved british mysteries, they got me addcited to Patricia Moyes, Josephine Tey, Dorothy Sayer.
*starts writing furiously*
Gimlet
We had an LTE this evening that put that out as well as it would allow the Dems to pick up a ton of votes since the illegal immigrant per their view will always vote liberal.
I really want to know what they expect to do. Round up 12 million people, men, women, children, old and young alike and drop them on the other side of the border? WTF do they want to do? I wonder how that will go down? I can see the going from door to door, warrantless searches citizen or not. Shock troops herding masses of people into cattle trucks and. Well you know the routine.
Dood! I was being nice and hiveminded!
You've not been subjected into the initiation rites of the cult.
If that won't get ya banned, nothin' will!
Dood! I was being nice and hiveminded!
masculine_monica_nyc | 06.16.07 - 8:57 pm | #
Not you, silly.
The crapper.
I like garlic. And onion.
I'm one of those people who can never have too much garlic or onion.
Unfortunately, according to my friends...
Garlic is Mediterranean penicilin, sort of like chicken soup
I like roasted garlic a lot. You squeeze it onto bread toasted w/a little olive oil. Then maybe a bit of salt.
BTW, apropos of nothing, but Gomez gave me Zinn's book for Christmas.
That's why I'm his ho ho ho.
JeffCO,
You often say you love garlic. I bet you like scampi.
Olive oil, red pepper flakes, sometimes oregano, GARLIC, sometimes a bit of butter, toasted bread crumbs...
what am I forgetting?
Love it. I think it's my favorite thing to eat, actually.
From rorschach's joint:
"Do you have a flaaaaaag?"
In early 1995, at the start of the relationship, Senator D’Amato called a press conference to announce that he was in love.
... if Tom Cruise can do it, Aqua Velva Man Fred Thompson could have introduced us to his tastefully appointed beloved. ...
Why, just the other day, senator pothole announced that he is in love with the Aqua Velva Man, hisself!
I like roasted garlic a lot.
I crushed a clove in Reno just to smell it fry.
Have you read "The People's History of the United States" by Howard Zinn?
That book blows all of our beloved myths to shreds.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | 06.16.07 - 8:48 pm | #
As does "Lies My Teacher Told Me."
rorschach | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 8:49 pm |
Those two were always on the employee pick section of the bookstore where I worked. And they always sold.
JeffCO -War On War Off
When you neeeeeeeeeed me....
Animate this radar and tell me you didn't go WHOA!
Take a slice of Italian bread, toast it, rub a peeled garlic all over it while the bread is still warm and crisp, put a slice of cheese and a slice of onion on top. Wonderful. And a slice of tomato if you have that too. Cen't ever have too much garlic
What is interesting is that the "conservatives" can trash Bush left and right about immigration and that's cool. He's a lame duck and they don't need him for anything. I heard this jerk taking about this and he was all about building this Wall.
And then latter he talks about bombing Iran. He was yet another right wing pundit that got everything wrong and gets to suggest more wrong things and be taken seriously not as a dangerous unhinged individual who should only be speaking to crowds of "minutemen" outside of the Gas and Sip on the hwy.
You've not been subjected into the initiation rites of the cult.
That's cuz I'm faaaaaaast, baybe!
Not you, silly.
The crapper.
Oh. Thinking on it, though, I do believe the host allows the schmearing of No. 2s around the joint.
We were getting the perfect-looking garlic imported from China, which had an off taste and didn't hold up at all. Had to go searching all over A2 for stuff from California. At least, it'll be easier to find at the farmer's market now.
smalfish, that is word. Are we having a land hurricane?
By the way, that big red blotch left and down at San Antonio is rumbling my windows at the moment.
I haven't seen rain since February
Vicki, Onions ... do you make skirt steak? Sautee thinly sliced onion in olive oil with salt, pepper, and fresh thyme. VERY low heat, you want all the sugars to be released from the onion. Cook it until very brown. Eat it with the steak. Really good.
I am getting tired of seeing the little bible belt church lady writing her LTEs railing about the ugly, nasty immigrant. If she wants to see what part of the problem is, she should look in the mirror.
Yup. While the haters blame the illegals for all that's bad in this country, the GOPers that have been fomenting their hatred have been helping corporations to ship jobs overseas and to make the middle class a thing of the past. They are a bunch of stupid suckers that have been conned into voting for exactly the folks who are conspiring to send them to the poorhouse. If they weren't dragging the rest of the country done with them, I'd be more than happy to see them suffer that fate, the wages of sin, so to speak.
word = weird
I am not cool enough to use word except as a word.
oh, well played, res.
Oh. Thinking on it, though, I do believe the host allows the schmearing of No. 2s around the joint.
masculine_monica_nyc | 06.16.07 - 9:03 pm | #
Is that the host who hates us ? Sawree...
The Aqua Velva Fred Thompson saturation situation is soooo depressing. And smelly.
Cen't ever have too much garlic
That's very true.
NTodd, would you like a job?
Great. Now go fucking read American Gods.
res, I just had delicious steak kebobs and rice pilaf, but that sounds wonderful!
I will try it.
Word works, weirdly.
The Aqua Velva Fred Thompson saturation situation is soooo depressing. And smelly.
War On War Off | 06.16.07 - 9:04 pm | #
Covers up the smell of Depends
WTF is with Coleman's wife, tigre? I mean, I know she's just some trashy thing, but he is really ugly. Does he have a lot of dough?
My parents loved british mysteries, they got me addcited to Patricia Moyes, Josephine Tey, Dorothy Sayer.
*starts writing furiously*
pie | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 8:58 pm
My parents also loved Ngaio Marsh, who was Kiwi, but moved to England and almost all her books are set there.
?I am getting tired of seeing the little bible belt church lady writing her LTEs railing about the ugly, nasty immigrant. If she wants to see what part of the problem is, she should look in the mirror.
EkCenTriK
I saw one the other day, can't remember where, about the illegal aliens kill hundreds of people every year by driving drunk.
Amazaing how these things grow in their dark, damp minds like mold.
Damn. Now I want some skirt steak.
Damn. Now I want some skirt steak.
res ipsa loquitur | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 9:06 pm | #
I just want skirt...
I love skirt steak and what's used for korean ribs. If that's the only meat I ever had, I'd be happy.
Damn. Now I want some skirt steak.
Damnit. I just missed the 8:58 train...
I haven't seen rain since February
Gilly Gonzylon | 06.16.07 - 9:03 pm |
Here, since March. We had a dusting of snow in April, and really since then, nada. North of I-70 is alright, moisture-wise. South of I-70, not so good.
Damnit. I just missed the 8:58 train...
The Kenosha Kid | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 9:07 pm | #
As my ex said "There's always another train"
Damnit. I just missed the 8:58 train...
My baby takes the morning train!
My parents also loved Ngaio Marsh
I think I've read almost everything she wrote, though not in a long time. was a huge Rex Stout fan, but his books aren't even in my library any more. 
Richard | 06.16.07 - 9:04 pm
Well said!
It's always those lazy other people that get their job outsourced. Until it happens to them. Then it's like "WTF?"
Sadly some of them think it is their fault and don't understand that the corporations don't care about them and are happy if they think that they are to blame for not being "mobile" or "retrainable" enough.
Easier to blame those foreigners instead of the people deciding that the only way they can meet Walmart's demands for lower prices is to outsource to countries that have no protections for people or environment.
All the stuff liberals and unions have fought for.
*starts writing furiously*
pie | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 8:58 pm
Ruth Rendell is pretty good, a B-grade PD James, IMHO. Her plots can be uneven, and some her characters really shallow, but she creates great eccenetrics.
Ian Rankin is darker, bleaker. Colin Dexter's novels are much better than the BBC series based on them--as much as I love John Thaw's performance as Inspector Morse.
Here, since March. We had a dusting of snow in April, and really since then, nada. North of I-70 is alright, moisture-wise. South of I-70, not so good.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins | 06.16.07 - 9:07 pm | #
I recall Athens OH being nicer than Cleveland, weatherwise. Haven't been in 20 years, though.
I'd like a miniskirt steak
Take the 'A' train, if you know what's good for ya.
Oh dear, a crisis has arisen.
I must make an emergency trip to acquire additional frozen dairy product.
I'd like a miniskirt steak
Culture of TrÜth | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 9:09 pm | #
(the snap of high and low fives abound)
Oh dear, a crisis has arisen.
Did your daughter's white bikini get mold on it, too?
War On War Off | 06.16.07 - 9:04 pm | #
Didn't know wearing Aqua Velva was a prerequisite for being president...
Doesn't Fred Thompson have cancer? Isn't he supposed to be sitting home like Edward's wife? How dare he take on this pressure, it might lead to a relapse!
The Kenosha Kid is the Wanker of the Day.
TKK: a man did my pedicure. Heh.
Spocko,
Fred Thompson has incurable, indolent lymphoma.
I'd like a miniskirt steak
Culture of TrÜth | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 9:09 pm | #
'We have a winner!
The Kenosha Kid is the Wanker of the Day.
If you had mentioned skirt steak earlier, we would be dining now.
Thank you, Jim. I'll prolly avoid the darker, bleaker. I have to have happy death.
Did your daughter's white bikini get mold on it, too?
We have what you need.
Didn't know wearing Aqua Velva was a prerequisite for being president...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin | 06.16.07 - 9:10 pm | #
No, but Hai Karate is. That's why I'll be announcing my candidacy.
...swell the ranks of the impoverished and require taxpayers to pick up new welfare costs, education costs, etc.
Gimlet
Another piece of information she shared with me was the organized crime that this underclass brought with it.
Unfortunately at this point she got carried away with herself and started talking about these criminals cutting down parking meters.
I remarked how influential they must be to keep it out of the local news media. She said it would be bad for tourism if they let it out.
If you had mentioned skirt steak earlier, we would be dining now.
Sigh.
The way to a man's heart is through his stomach.
Here, since March. We had a dusting of snow in April, and really since then, nada. North of I-70 is alright, moisture-wise. South of I-70, not so good.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins | 06.16.07 - 9:07 pm | #
I recall Athens OH being nicer than Cleveland, weatherwise. Haven't been in 20 years, though.
Gilly Gonzylon | 06.16.07 - 9:09 pm
I've never been to Athens, but as a former Chicagoan, I found Cleveland's weather comforting. I lived in Lake County for 3 years while in college.
Tweety loves his man-love crushes, doesn't he?
My baby takes the morning train!
Here I Am, Rock You Like A Hurricane
Yeah, you could have picked up the meat at Citerella and I could have cooked it up, but because you are the Wanker of the Day you will eat Cheetohs.
Hai Karate! Available only in your local Rexall or Woolworth.
TKK has yellow fingers!
Wait until Jessica gets a load of the Viagra "Suds" ad.
This steak tastes like leather.
It's turning me on.
Speaking of food. Off to Trader Joes to buy food for tonight and tomorrow.
Any requests?
Unfortunately at this point she got carried away with herself and started talking about these criminals cutting down parking meters.
What's annoying is how guys who do that can also eat a lot of hard boiled eggs.
I remarked how influential they must be to keep it out of the local news media. She said it would be bad for tourism if they let it out.
I wear my tinfoil like a badge of honor, but those people on the right just need something a wee bit stronger.
Unfortunately at this point she got carried away with herself and started talking about these criminals cutting down parking meters.
Too many viewings of Cool Hand Luke?
And yes, Cheetohs for dinner, but no one said anything about Citerella earlier.
My parents also loved Ngaio Marsh
I think I've read almost everything she wrote, though not in a long time. was a huge Rex Stout fan, but his books aren't even in my library any more.
pie | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 9:08 pm |
My parents tried to get me to read Marsh by starting with her one book set in New Zealand. Didn't work. Neither did their attempt to get me to like Rex Stout by having me read the one where he goes by to Montenegro. OTOH, I re-read Black Mountain and liked it much better, so at some point I'll give Rex Stout another try.
Wait until Jessica gets a load of the Viagra "Suds" ad.
I cannot wait for the upcoming "Viagra: Take a Load Off" campaign.
spocko,
Go for the green chile and cheese tamales!
They are my TJ's all-time favorite.
"Do you have a flaaaaaag?"
"No flag, no country — you can't have one."
Speaking of food. Off to Trader Joes to buy food for tonight and tomorrow.
Any requests?
spocko | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 9:14 pm | #
2 Buck Chuck, Rice Pudding, and Grated Parmesean
Speaking of food. Off to Trader Joes to buy food for tonight and tomorrow.
Any requests?
Trader Jose's frozen chimichangas.
res ipsa loquitur
Okay did you see the last episode of the Sopranos?
Have we ever seen that female FBI agent that was sleeping with Tony's former FBI agent?
She was pleasing to the eye.
#$%@$#$%((#$, TKK!
Do I have to think of everything?
*starts writing furiously*
pie | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 8:58 pm
I'm a big fan of the Scottish genre writers Val McDermid and Denise Mina.
Don't follow leaders - and watch the parkin meters.
Fresh owls.
Damn this thread has run the entire escaton gamut. All it's missing is a bit of 9/11.
Unfortunately at this point she got carried away with herself and started talking about these criminals cutting down parking meters.
Too many viewings of Cool Hand Luke?
And yes, Cheetohs for dinner, but no one said anything about Citerella earlier.
The Kenosha Kid | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 9:15 pm | #
"I can eat 4839 eggs in an hour"
Gilly Gonzylon | 06.16.07 - 9:17 pm | #
Luke could only eat 50 eggs...
Trader Joe's has excellent Belgian chocolates, French lemonade, cheeses, nuts, some good meats, and it started of course as a wine store. However, only you can make your choice, ABSOLUTELY WHITE AND GOOD (Belgian chocolate), ABSOLUTELY BLACK AND EVIL (vegetables), or CORRUPT (which is also absolutely evil).
A mini-skirt, courtesy of the singer of "Morning Train"...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c...related&
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Do I have to think of everything?
You're only enabling him.
My menu tonight consists of a delightful appetizer of bourbon, followed by a savory beer entree.
We have what you need
Jessica is not a real feminist.
Her website has the silhouettes of women and their breasts on it.
Luke could only eat 50 eggs...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin | 06.16.07 - 9:17 pm | #
"Cool Hand Uke" - The Ukranian sent off to the chain gangs of the South
"I recall Athens OH being nicer than Cleveland, weatherwise. Haven't been in 20 years, though."
in the winter maybe, but the summer in athens is wicked hot with 200% humidity.
maybe it was the drugs...
Richard | 06.16.07 - 9:18 pm | #
You're my best friend ever.
bill buckner, noted. Thanks.
in the winter maybe, but the summer in athens is wicked hot with 200% humidity.
maybe it was the drugs...
jdw | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 9:19 pm | #
How DARE you? ever been to shroom hill ?
"I recall Athens OH being nicer than Cleveland, weatherwise. Haven't been in 20 years, though."
in the winter maybe, but the summer in athens is wicked hot with 200% humidity.
maybe it was the drugs...
jdw | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 9:19 pm
What's wrong with Cleveland in winter?
upstairs, folks.
Damn this thread has run the entire escaton gamut.
I'm liking this end of the gamut very much more than the other.
I request not to be taunted about not having a trader joe's in my area.
Blue corn chips there are always good. Senior Felix guacamole to go with it.
Oh, and get some cashews.
Tainted Foods Are Daily Problem in Asia
Formaldehyde, for instance, has long been used to lengthen the shelf life of rice noodles and tofu in some Asian countries, even though it can cause liver, nerve and kidney damage. The chemical, often used in embalming, was found a few years ago in seven of 10 pho noodle factories in Hanoi.
Borax, found in everything from detergent to Fiberglas, is also commonly used to preserve fish and meats in Indonesia and elsewhere. Farmers in various countries often spray produce with banned pesticides, such as DDT.
"We need more time, they've got to give us time here," he said.
just substitute "blood" for "time" in you come face to face with the true neocon.
.
Any movie recommendations? Are there any talkies playing at the cineplex worth the attention?
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