I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
First?
Second.
Third.
Fourth.
The thought of a little Atrios pitching pennies, breaking windows and having spit in your face contests in the vacant lot makes me kind of weepy and wanting to knit him an afghan for when Wild Kingdom comes on on Sunday nights.
It meant I was hoping we could try that Swedish thing, with the pulleys.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 1:26 am | #
First, we must establish trust. Then you give me money. Then, more trust.
Awwwwwwww... Jammie Boy deleted my comment AND banned me!
Talk about no sense of humor!
I FUCKING HATE THERS AND ATRIOS.
Yeah, it really is.
In every way.
Just kidding.
No I'm not.
When I asked Atrios to delete my account, he spit in my face.
I spit on Junior Barnes.
You know, that photo looks suspiciously like a terroristic threat.
What do you guys think?
I had a similar experience only we weren't kids.
And for the record, all I said was Jammie-Boy's picture wasn't satire - it was just jerk-off porn for when his Mommy wasn't around to suck his dick.
Chill out, dude - I was only kidding! Lighten up!!!
I spit on Atrios' grave.
I FUCKING HATE THERS AND ATRIOS.
Sniff.
We haz better kittehs.
One time, in band camp, I shoved Hillary in front of the C Train.
I wish someone would visit my blog so I could ban them.
I spit on Atrios' grave.
NTodd,
I belch near Atrios's bus stop.
I'm just not as intense as you are.
We haz better kittehs.
Yeah. But Atrios is so full of hate that he only links to Bacon McLout, and never our kittehs, even though he never fucking posts his shitty kitties anyway. You know why? Because he fears us. He fears our thought-provoking kittehs. What's more, he fears what he has become.
Did someone say kittens?
I'm just not as intense as you are.
If you don't ever post at Pax, I'll show you intense, bitch.
Wow. Get a load of this.
(Via Things.)
Yeah. But Atrios is so full of hate that he only links to Bacon McLout, and never our kittehs, even though he never fucking posts his shitty kitties anyway. You know why? Because he fears us. He fears our thought-provoking kittehs. What's more, he fears what he has become.
NTodd, On On WANDERSEXXX! | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 1:31 am | #
NTodd, I'm worried about you.
If you've taken to calling your kittehs "String," you should back away from the computer.
If you've taken to calling your kittehs "String," you should back away from the computer.
I made stew. And my cat is named Yarn. It's a bisexual transgender dog I genetically modified with feline DNA.
I aspire to be the "Candlepins for Cash" of political bloggers.
He fears our thought-provoking kittehs.
Truer words were never typed on a blog.
If you've taken to calling your kittehs "String," you should back away from the computer.
DON'T MAKE SOUP YOU CAN'T EAT MOTHER FUCKER.
Eschaton needs a FAQ page for those of us who don't know the answers to questions like "What happened to WGG?"
and "What did Brooklyn Girl do to get banned?", and "Why does it say HULK SMASH at the top of the comment window?".
Really, I think it was pretty fucking brilliant: playing Hefner's Alan Bean, then some shit about Apollo 12, then Walking In The Air.
But I toil away in obscurity like Karl Hans Janke...
Phila, Pizen Sarpint | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 1:33 am | #
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That review of the Dawkins' atheism book was great. Talk about a ripped sphincter with a garden trowel.
Talk about a ripped sphincter with a garden trowel.
Doug Watts | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 1:36 am | #
Ew. Ick.
Wow. Get a load of this.
What the heck is that?
Eschaton needs a FAQ page for those of us who don't know the answers to questions like "What happened to WGG?"
and "What did Brooklyn Girl do to get banned?", and "Why does it say HULK SMASH at the top of the comment window?".
No it doesn't.
"What did Brooklyn Girl do to get banned?"
Swept up in some Haloscan hell.
She should try clearing her cache and restarting her modem. Might help, might not.
I banned Markos because he spit in my face.
Talk about a ripped sphincter with a garden trowel.
Man, I remember my bachelor party...
I FUCKING HATE THERS AND ATRIOS.
who don't? but remember what happened when Lewis and Martin split ... and don't even get me started on Lou Costello ...
hat review of the Dawkins' atheism book was great. Talk about a ripped sphincter with a garden trowel.
Doug Watts | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 1:36 am | # [kill][hide comment]
Glad you liked it. I found it very satisfying indeed.
Marilynne Robinson also did one that was top-notch...didn't leave enough of him to bury, IMO.
and "What did Brooklyn Girl do to get banned?"
Nothing.
Atrios didn't ban her, but for some reason she can't post from home.
Ntodd should help her solve her technical difficulties.
No it doesn't.
Please?
She should try clearing her cache and restarting her modem. Might help, might not.
Didn't. She'll be testing a potential solution tomorrow that will at least provide me with more data.
Eschaton needs a FAQ page for those of us who don't know the answers to questions like "What happened to WGG?"
and "What did Brooklyn Girl do to get banned?", and "Why does it say HULK SMASH at the top of the comment window?".
merle | 11.17.07 - 1:36 am | # [kill][hide comment]
Talk to NTodd about it.
Eschaton needs a FAQ page for those of us who don't know the answers to questions like "What happened to WGG?"
and "What did Brooklyn Girl do to get banned?", and "Why does it say HULK SMASH at the top of the comment window?".
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This is the Eschaton FAQ page. And the answer to every question is start your own shitty fucking blog.
Look what it did for NTood. He's now a regional celebrity. People in the dairy aisle know him by name.
I banned Markos because he spit in my face.
Well, when you come to Austin next year, you can spit in his face.
Ntodd should help her solve her technical difficulties.
No it doesn't.
Please?
No. And you are forbidden to ever bring it up again.
Glad you liked it. I found it very satisfying indeed.
Marilynne Robinson also did one that was top-notch...didn't leave enough of him to bury, IMO.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 1:39 am | #
I find your disdain of dismissiveness appalling.
People in the dairy aisle know him by name.
That's only because my photo is in all the local post offices...
Didn't. She'll be testing a potential solution tomorrow that will at least provide me with more data.
Oh, good.
I offered all the easy solutions yesterday.
Hey, I wonder if it has something to do with haloscan? I had trouble some months back and it had something to do with a haloscan server fuckup.
sniffle.
(Ahem)
NO PROXY FLIRTING.
Hey, I wonder if it has something to do with haloscan? I had trouble some months back and it had something to do with a haloscan server fuckup.
No, it has something to do with Toby's cock being caught in a rice picker. Long story. Nothing to do with Star Trek.
i don't know what's up with brooklyn girl. her IP isn't in the ban list and I even removed most of the existing ones.
Oh oh.
Here comes Maddie. I fear for mah fingers.
Hey, Mr French, will you pass a note to Brooklyn Girl at gym class for me?
i don't know what's up with brooklyn girl. her IP isn't in the ban list and I even removed most of the existing ones.
Atrios | 11.17.07 - 1:43 am | #
It's clear that Atrios just hates Teh Jew.
Hey, Mr French, will you pass a note to Brooklyn Girl at gym class for me?
Well no, but...
Yes.
Oh damn.
She has a dead turd attached to her britches.
I get to pair up with Brooklyn Girl when we do square dancing in gym ....
It's clear that Atrios just hates Teh Jew.
NTodd, On On WANDERSEXXX! | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 1:44 am | #
He is anti-Sematrios.
He is anti-Sematrios.
I thought he was a semi-Hatrios.
She has a dead turd attached to her britches.
fourlegsgood, FREE BRKLYNGIRL | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 1:44 am | # [kill]
That's better than a live one.
I miss Brooklyn girl.
Not to get all feminist/deconstructivist, but perhaps he is the hemi-demi-semi-anti-Matrios.
i don't know what's up with brooklyn girl. her IP isn't in the ban list and I even removed most of the existing ones.
I tried to halp her but I doan know much about teh internets and tubes stuff.
Mantrios: the Hands of Freight.
That doesn't look like satire to me.
It looks like a find idea.
There's nothing worse than thinking you've been banned, when you haven't, except thinking you've been banned when you have.
It was one of Wilde's ...
That's better than a live one.
She had a live one when I got home from work- it's a hazard that comes along with maine coons.
Not to get all feminist/deconstructivist, but perhaps he is the hemi-demi-semi-anti-Matrios.
The Hemidemisemiantimatriotz Haderach. Dipshit.
Really, I have no idea what that means.
and of course, I'm talking about Rudy and Hilary laughing and walking together.
pud's God believes murder is okay.
Has anyone here ever had sex with pud?
The Hemidemisemiantimatriotz Haderach. Dipshit.
NTodd, On On WANDERSEXXX! | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 1:50 am | #
"Dipshit" being Fremen for "dude I want to fuck me," I am flattered and thank you.
pud's god is a little puffy white patch on Wotan's dingleberry.
rory - blow me (which is, of course, Fremen for "you're welcome").
Atrios just wanted BG to sing New Pornographers tunes and wear ballet slippers...when she refused, he banned her.
You cockpricking assdicked shitholers really need to get a room.
I'm not leaving here 'til Atrios unbans me.
I got my rights, by God.
Banned by Atrios is the new black.
Atrios just wanted BG to sing New Pornographers tunes and wear ballet slippers...when she refused, he banned her.
She just wants to sing Bowie.
Don't tell simels.
She just wants to sing Bowie.
Don't tell simels.
Aiiii-eeeeee!!
You cockpricking assdicked shitholers really need to get a room.
This strikes me as not being at all nice, or perhaps just less nice than you could be.
It was one of Wilde's ...
Doug Watts | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 1:50 am | #
Oscar or Kim ?
Oracle mode. Seriouoly you don't have to say twice.
Oscar or Kim ?
Gilly Gonzylon | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 1:56 am | #
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I was a Kid in America. And the music did go 'round. Wo-oh ...
Oy fucking vey. And then some.
GAH!
Oh. My. God.
Maybe humans DO deserve to be wiped out by a gigantic flaming asteroid.
That is some fucked up shit, yo.
GAH!
If a man walked near her
Oh, fuck.
That story is unbelievable.
GAH!
Sounds like Ron Paul's perfect America.
This makes me want to go to Indonesia and hurt someone. Glad they freed her.
That's gotta be fake.
Really, that's beyond comprehension.
This makes me want to go to Indonesia and hurt someone. Glad they freed her.
Me too.
GAH!
Phila, Pizen Sarpint
Well I picked a fucking inopportune moment to arrive...
...actually clicked on the link without looking as I thought it was to the review of the atheist book. Teach me to glance at the url preview...atheism is a particularly attractive notion after that story of Pony.
I'd like to think people couldn't possibly be that fucked up.
I'd like to think people couldn't possibly be that fucked up.
Sadly, you would be wrong.
whaddup, you non-sleepers?
That story is unbelievable.
fourlegsgood
I think perhaps so.
you non-sleepers?
MP | 11.17.07 - 2:06 am | # [kill][hide comment]
You got that right.
[shudder]
I'd like to think people couldn't possibly be that fucked up.
Go back to the website and click on the Comments link. You'll meet a few more fucked up people.
That's gotta be fake.
NTodd, On On WANDERSEXXX! | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 2:01 am | # [kill][hide comment]
Well, the women quoted in the story is for real, so it oughta be easy to find out.
some non-sleepers work in stores that are open all night...
As I mentioned to Toddski a couple of weekends ago, I get this shit ALL THE TIME from a former co-worker, and he won't desist, as it's all a big game... "Let's annoy the liberal...hee..hee..heee.."
I just delete 'em unread at this point, but for the record - Hillary Clinton did NOT defend the Black Panthers as an undergraduate.
And, yes, I received this one - but I'm still waiting for any specifics about why they hate/fear her so much. Fucking assholes.
At any rate, and whatever else is going on in the world... this night I danced with my bartender's daughter on the occasion of her 16th birthday to "Goodbye Earl" by the Dixie Chicks.
It was a grand moment.
You got that right.
[shudder]
Phila, Pizen Sarpint
Lotta stupit peeble think you gotta be up while it's daylight.
They bug me.
Enough already with the asteriphobia and comments about my size, please.
I must abed. I will not think of orangutans. l8rh9rz.
but I'm still waiting for any specifics about why they hate/fear her so much. Fucking assholes.
bill buckner
Well, they were in practice for hating her specifically all the way back to Bill's first election. And in any case they would be directing the most venom at her now as she is leading in the Dem polls. Hell if it was Edwards who had a 20 point lead nationally they'd be all haircuts all the time, and the Scary Vagina details would be rewritten to target Elizabeth.
Listen to this alternate version of "Like a Rolling Stone". Not hugely different, just a
different recording take from the sessions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R...h?
v=RuVgW3Ykqn4
As I mentioned to Toddski a couple of weekends ago, I get this shit ALL THE TIME from a former co-worker, and he won't desist, as it's all a big game... "Let's annoy the liberal...hee..hee..heee.."
The worst thing about that is that they extend it to voting, etc. If a policy makes liberals angry, they'll support it without ever imagining that it'll boomerang on 'em.
G'night all.
The worst thing about that is that they extend it to voting, etc. If a policy makes liberals angry, they'll support it without ever imagining that it'll boomerang on 'em.
Stupid fuckers.
I almost want them to suffer from their stupidity.
Listen to this alternate version of "Like a Rolling Stone". Not hugely different, just a
different recording take from the sessions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R...h? v=RuVgW3Ykqn4
Gilly Gonzylon | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 2:13 am | # [kill][hide comment]
This site has a pretty wide variety of stuff for download, if you're interested.
I'm gonna go watch some cartoons, in hopes of bleaching my brain.
G'night, all.
Thanks, Phila. 
we are all rolling stones now. or very possibly soon could be. Wonder who will be the first to headline a story about the shitpile mortgage disaster with "No Direction Home"?
Dammit I used to like that song. I still do but for the first time it is starting to scare the crap out of me. It sounds like the future.
This site has a pretty wide variety of stuff for download, if you're interested.
Wow, that's pretty fucking cool!
Wow, that's pretty fucking cool!
dave™© | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 2:23 am | #
Kinda overwhelming...
Xan | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 2:23 am | #
Or the chorus of Ballad of a Thin Man...
Something's happening here, and you don't know what it is....
Wow, that's pretty fucking cool!
Google "Whatever you're looking for" + "rapidshare". Everything is out there.
Great. Gilly. Louder.
In fact, just to simplify things...
http://rapidshare-search-engine.com/
Democrats Unable to Bring Troops Home
WASHINGTON (AP) - Nearly a year after anti-war voters put them in power, congressional Democrats remain unable to pass legislation ordering troops home from Iraq. Frustrated by Republican roadblocks, Democrats now plan to sit on President Bush's $196 billion request for war spending until next year - pushing the Pentagon toward an accounting nightmare and deepening their conflict with the White House on the war.
Where will the GOP go now?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/
20071...sex_club_closed
All glory to the Internet!
I just downloaded the MST3K episode where they riff on The Creeping Terror!
I am SO happy right now!
I'll be even happier later today when HAXAN finishes downloading.
If a policy makes liberals angry, they'll support it without ever imagining that it'll boomerang on 'em...
Makes me sad, for in this case, I had a job with a LOT of break time, and we used to sit around and hash it out at length. He always came in with his "Wall Street Journal," and I was reading Robert Fisk's doorstop history of the (modern) Middle East - we didn't agree on much - but had any number of (dare I say it?) CIVIL discussions. (It helped that he was no fan of Bush...)
But the minute that I gave him my e-mail address, an endless raft of shit like that above. Didn't matter how many times he was shot down via a simple 10-second "Snopes" search. Didn't matter how many times I asked, "Look, I've got some real problems with Hillary, but I've yet to hear you articulate anything real." LOVES Rudy.
"Let's annoy the liberal.. hee.hee.heee.."
Life's too fucking short. ( I must abed - g'night, good people...)
Chris Tucker | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 2:33 am | #
Hey, now, Criterion put out Haxan.
They need some $$$, or they'll have to do another Michael Bay film....
Night for me, too....
Bardzo ładne mieszkanie
Aw hell sorry to get all morbid here; real life got enough of that shit. In atonement there is always The Weatherman Song
Janeane, this is the public domain version.
The Criterion edition is on the "WILL GET!" list, along with their edition of 'Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas'.
I do want to get their HAXAN, as it has the William Burroughs narrated 'History of Witchcraft' version of HAXAN.
I saw both films a few years ago on IFC and decided then and there I needed them both in my collection.
But best of all for late night when people are going to bed is Play a Song For Me.
probably not the best version; live, wind songs interfering with the mike...then again that ain't all bad.
Wingnut humor is commensurate with wingnut intellect.
Wishes and taters.
Me: I make gravy!
Satan: And so you always shall...
Me: Thank you, Satan!
The Farewell Song of the Christianists to Bush.
Not to mention the rest of us's.
Did someone summon me?
Senate Republicans on Friday blocked a $50 billion bill by Democrats that would have paid for several months of combat but also would have ordered troop withdrawals from Iraq to begin within 30 days. The measure, narrowly passed this week by the House, also would have set a goal of ending combat in December 2008.
The 53-45 vote was seven votes short of the 60 needed to advance. It came minutes after the Senate rejected a Republican proposal to pay for the Iraq war with no strings attached.
The 53-45 vote was seven votes short of the 60 needed to advance. It came minutes after the Senate rejected a Republican proposal to pay for the Iraq war with no strings attached.
sing
oh, fuck these people, may they rot in hell..sooner rather than later, please.
why can't "progressives" be more earnest and humorless?
Senate Dimocrats: shaving off their own pitiful weenies, a millimeter at a time...
[...nutroot-induced hilarity ensuing!.....]
I just bought a pair of 'skullcandy' noise canceling headphones. They were recommended by the sales person. I was dubious if they were any good or not, because I'd never heard of this brand before. I'll know more on Sunday night when I take it to work. I've got to walk through the CNC area all the time, and sometimes the combination of the screech of those machines going through metal honeycomb, and the several ghetto blasters on full volume playing a discordant combo of tex-mex, rap, C&W, and pop-rock makes my teeth jangle, even with ear plugs in.
Heya Sarah, wuzzup? Youtube is working unusually well for me tonight, I am jumping from one to another song in the sidebars. Dylan to Byrds to Springsteen...
Xan, if you find anything exceptionally tasty sounding post the link. I've got a couple of new 8 gig memory sticks to fill up.
Yo Doug, I thought you would be at work even as we speak. Mya I say that the prospect of you moving to night shift, advantagious as it may be for you, does not meet with unmitigated joy for the rest of us.
Rampant SF billboards: black ipodophiles in ecstatic states--Apple preciousness impugning black Americans as "all about me" liberals
Doug-
Don't know the brand, but noise-canceling headphones are great. I have a Bose pair, and some Etymotic Research ear plugs. Especially on planes.
why can't "progressives" be more earnest and humorless?
Lubyanka | 11.17.07 - 3:10 am | #
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I'm here at your disposal.
why can't "progressives" be more earnest and humorless?
Lubyanka |
gol-darn, I thought we were already Olympians wrt those two traits...
Doug, my taste/selections in music were pretty much embedded in veins of fossils laid down in the late Jurassic. The closest thing to modern-day music I really enjoyed was Phish, and they went out of business how many years ago?
Xan, well I'm off tonight. The place is building for me tonight a new lab and office. So, no OT for me tonight, though normally I could work on Friday night if I liked. Saturdays is the one day that even with this place's breakneck schedule, I normally don't work.
(We've got quite a few un-filled contracts, and the ink just dried of a few more)
Aerospace work with out bombs.
I like it!
Doug:
Go for the humorlessness, if not the earnestness
Dylan to Byrds to Springsteen...
Xan |
hey, Zan - enjoying this as you post!!
Always loved that Byrds song.
Will you people quit talking to the fucking dogburner? Thanks in advance.
I am earnest in my lack of humor and humorless in my lack of earnestness.
Oh shit, I'm a troll.
Dayam, Doug, you show up and they rebuild the set for ya? Where are you working, and, do they need any humorless, earnest, left-wing PR people? If so where should I send the resume?
Can be there (looks at watch) by about 9 a.m. Monday to interview if desired.
I actually have leeway to be up way past my bedtime, which probably guarantees the sane and fun people will be going to bed early :-(
Will you people quit talking to the fucking dogburner? Thanks in advance.
Fat Freddy | 11.17.07 - 3:28 am | #
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The rule is that invocation of that rule must be summarily ignored, but whining about breaking breaking the meta-rule is allowed.
Some old music is great. On my player so far, that's still not been deleted.
put there by my son;
she wants revenge
revenge
darude
orgy
prodigy
sublime
Snoop Dog
Big phun
the streets
Warren G
ying yang twins
daft punk
And I've got lots of classical,
jazz, even a few hundred songs sung by billy holiday, some delta blues, old classical rock, and some marilyn manson. about 6 gigs on this memory stick.
I actually have leeway to be up way past my bedtime ...
me too.
Good morning, sane people.
Let's send Lube'n'Yanker on a Downbound Train....
Well, Xan, what they are looking for is maniac detailed people, who can handle a fast schedule, and maybe who know stats, ISO 9K certs, CMM and automated optical comparator microscopes including how to program both CMM and comparators.
Sort of like a CNC machine except instead of cutting they measure with touch and optics, to up to a millionth of an inch if necessary, though we normally are only looking at a few thousandths of an inch tolerance.
Production control, stats and QA folks.
Well poop, Doug. I was hoping they needed somebody who could come up with brilliant analogies of Civil War situations for which your company's products would be perfect solutions.
Advertising and PR in other words. Hell, if Boeing and Lockheed are running ads, as though in anticipation that viewers would pick up the phone and order an F-21, it would seem like your company could look into such promotions as well.
Why? Because the Night
And dammit I recognize the terms "...stats, ISO 9K certs, CMM and automated optical comparator microscopes..." but gotta ask, WTF is a CNS machine? You have come up with one acronym I do not know.
/hangs head in shame and unworthiness for employment
Er, I meant "CNC" machine.
/hangs head in further shame
This is some of the stuff we build.
"On Airbus A340-500 flights, first class passengers have full suites, complete with closing doors to ensure privacy, mini-bar, coat rack and ample storage. The seat converts into a 2 metre (6 foot 7 inch) fully-flat bed."
(I've never flown this class)
Yo, lipreader, you up late or up early? Did not mean to ignore you, sorry.
"On Airbus A340-500 flights, first class passengers have full suites, complete with closing doors to ensure privacy, mini-bar, coat rack and ample storage. The seat converts into a 2 metre (6 foot 7 inch) fully-flat bed."
In NYC that would rent for +4000 a month.
Doug, you build mini-bars and storage units? For airplanes?
Hmm. You do designing or strictly construction to the plans of others?
A CNC machine is one that cuts stuff per a computer program. And you don't have to have a chewing tobacco cup next to the mill, as you might if a traditional machinist was running it.
Wiki executive overview.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNC
In NYC that would rent for +4000 a month.
I think some of the airlines get 10K for a trans-Atlantic flight.
Naw, I'm not designing the gear, though I'm programing the microscope/cmm machine.
It's a fairly unusual device, a microscope big enough to put a tall female Swedish high jumper on it. A close up movie could be shot of her looking at her at 800x magnification.
Wiki executive overview.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNC
Ah so. Thanks Doug. I now realize that I have seen many of these devices, being hopelessly addicted to that "How It's Made" show on (iirc) Discovery Channel.
Those puppies know how to Twist And Shout.
I'm also working on their QA program, to try to figure out how to run things faster, while still catching more defects than they have in the past.
That place's quality isn't bad, though they are looking towards the future, to keep getting contracts. So, getting a little closer to perfection is good for them.
I just did a Google with "Rudy Giuliani's Push to Save America"
That stupid photo is all over the net.
And the sad thing is they vote using things like this to inform them.
"progressives" earnestness feeds their humorlessness, or vice versa?
I have a larger one of these.
It must have been custom made because I can't find the exact model.
http://www.microvu.com/excel.html
Luby, run and hide your head, wouldja?
You are, after all, all wet.
"progressives" earnestness feeds their humorlessness, or vice versa?
Lubyanka | 11.17.07 - 4:02 am | #
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My brother has a big sign on the back of his pick-up truck about stopping the genocide in Darfur and his friend stopped by the other day and said, "Why do you want to save a bunch of niggers?"
Bigots are definitely the most humorous.
Rudy:
Clearly Hillary has never been in a subway station in NYC. She's a cheap, cynical leftwing political construct who cares nothing for the American people.
Push, man...
scenes depicting violence towards women and children seem to always arouse the sadistic fundamentalist, conservative, Christian, anti-American, republican.
Beatles - Rain
More like that please, though not only Beatles.
Lubyanka | 11.17.07 - 4:07 am | #
someone replied. wow. you must be aroused beyond mention.
Lubyanka -- you use the word 'care' as if you have actually expressed or felt that feeling at some point during your life.
Fascinating ...
Aw, Doug, how do I know you're not trying to influence us with your filthy Eastern ways?
I want this movie on DVD. Hell, I want this movie on TV and you never see it, nor HDN or MMT or YS or any of the others. Why is that?
On which point I must depart. Night/morning to all.
spock:
gee, with "progressives"' self-styled monopoly on "human feeling,"--not surprising you'd say that
(sneaking back)...gotta leave with the song whose original name, before the censors got hold of it, was supposed to be Knowing She Would.
/really gone now.
L -- progressives do not include within their universe of "human feeling" such things as racism and sadism and joy in watching others in pain and agony and death. We use the term "sociopath" or "dog burner" for the above. Good luck with your informative newsletter.
That greasy troll does have a gordo fishy smell about it.
killfile is a wonderful thing.
Experts warn of 'abrupt' warming
A UN panel has agreed a landmark report declaring that climate change is "unequivocal" and may bring "abrupt and irreversible" impacts.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/scien...ure/
7098902.stm
now remember, "progressives': besides eating your spinach and wearing your hairshirts, turn off your lights and appliances, ride your bikes and remember that, as Judge Mukasey says: "skateboarding is not a crime..."
Lubwanker, bite my crank.
meanwhile, "progressives," get to bed with the bogus notion that the US is systematically torturing enemy combatants while you sleep!
More outrageous than Lewinsky blowjobs in the Oval Office!
Nothing is more outrageous than a blowjob. Even we liberals know that! Duh.
Sure quiet here with everybody sleeping still and all.
hey trifecta
morning, morning.
Or evening still depending on where you are on this planet.
Hi folks, all 4 of you.
Hey Marcellina.
Just some crazies ranting about that global warming myth:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/scien...ure/
7098902.stm
Morning, doods!
The "cause" of high gas prices revealed, Fox News style.
Morning Molly!
I was singing songs with the toddler and telling him bed time stories at 8:30 last night, and fell asleep with him in his bed. Hence, I am up early now doing laundry.
Wow, I am a friday night party animal.
Who the fuck are these reputed adults named Cookie and Buzzy? They sound like muppets.
Good morning Molly!! 
trifecta,
Wow! Will you come do my laundry?
Hiya, Marcellina!
Do you folks get any sort of harvest festival holiday next week?
My theory is that evil WASP bastards use these names to disguise the fact that they are raping the planet, exploiting the help, and their lives are horror shows of guilt about their crimes against humanity. With a cute name, it makes one feel less like a soul sucking bore.
Or I could be wrong.
I will do your laundry for bacon.
No Thanksgiving here.
There are some harvest festival things at the end of September, but no real holiday.
I hardly miss it, just the food!
Fall is the best American season IMHO. Lot's of "American" traditions associated with the fall harvest. Of course many of these are borrowed, but the fall rituals "feel" very local if you know what I mean.
morning, all.
Cute names make me go all googly about, say, a 'Rudy' or a 'ghoulie' and such, of course. Jeez, is that a cute Push Poll.
Laundry is sweet trifecta.
I like doing housework while everybody is asleep. For one, it's actually easier to accomplish. Secondly, Mrs. Trifecta appreciates the effort. Thirdly, I have been up since 4 and am really bored.
Marcellina, we have even had a big platter of hot dogs for Thanksgiving - so the kids would be thankful.
this year, so my mom will have something she will eat I'm doing one of those little scrunched up turkey breasts - with yams and stuffing and cranberry sauce for me and the kid, and so it will look like t'g'g.
I wonder what the history behind the popularity of some thanksgiving dishes is about.
Who decided we needed to eat cranberries, or stuffing, or mashed potatoes, or green bean casserole, or sweet potatoes like many people do?
I like doing laundry when it involves handing it to some one else to do, myself. But massive housecleaning has descended on my house hold since my son is coming to visit. Oh, the mess that two long-haired cats creates everywhere. I may stop rescuing animals if I have to clean up after them - nah.
I just so happen to have an old copy of The Official Preppy Handbook. Here's what it says about those awful nicknames:
"A nickname is a gift. Whether given deliberately by the family or unintentionally by a peer, it bespeaks a certain In-ness and inaccessibility to outsiders. It's like being tapped for a secret society, minus the degrading rituals. It's tangible proof that you've gained entrance into an exclusive cameraderie."
trifecta, you left out pumpkin pie!! the pumpkin ass'n of the Universe will be at your door issuing a complaint at any minute.
I have been informed that my wife and mother in law are "tired" of pumpkin pie, and request me to make bread pudding this year instead.
They come up with requests like these because they don't ever cook.
Mrs. Trifecta helped stir the cranberry sauce last year though, so she is an expert on the menu 
Tradition was invented by the Third Grade Teachers of Am;n history as recreated by some textbook seller. And whoever invented five finger turkey pics.
bread pudding? and where is this event going to be held and when should I arrive? I'll bring disposable plates and utensils.
With a cute name, it makes one feel less like a soul sucking bore.
"Well, he's an objectively destructive force, but his name is so cute!"
Marce, The Preppy Handbook? That was all the rage when I was in high school! How old are you, girl?
And whoever invented five finger turkey pics.
Ha!
And I think the Festival of Starches, as a friend of mine in grad school dubbed it, is mostly comprised of root vegetables that "keep"--carrots, yams, potatoes, and of course pumpkins are a winter squash, so they keep too.
45, my dear. We amused ourselves with prep before we knew what punk was.
You, Molly? did you invent the 5-fingie thingie. I stand in awe.
Of course, I'm a genywhine celeb myself this a.m., hee hee, I'm the first comment at WaPo in their Hiattism of Social Security. at http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...4_Comments.html
And on a day when WaPo ombudsfake apologizes for an inappropriate email. Are the fireworks going off yet?
For all time ignorance of winter veggie virtue, I nominate an ass't pastor I helped with a thanksgiving dinner, to which I brought a big pumpkin casserrole. When I told him I'd used my Halloween pumpkin, he threw it out because it was old and could have botulism. I'm still picking up my jaw off the ground.
This year's menu.
Apple Cider Brined Turkey
Roasted Garlic Mashed potatoes
Giblet gravy
Herb Stuffing
Sweet potato souffle
Green bean casserole
apple/pear/cranberry compote
caramlized banana bread pudding
Lots of beer for the cook.
Marce,
I just thought you were younger than me. But we're pretty close; I'm 41, and so got to high school right when the whole Fair Isle sweater and boat shoe thing was taking off in earnest.
Ruth, you are always a celebrity to us, you know that.
Way to go, Ruth!
I had a copy of the preppy handbook. But I was a young teen I think when it came out.
Weirdly, I think Thers, NTodd and I are all the same age.
Thk yew, thk yew. (Takes bow, preens.)
oh, good, Glenn Greenwald did a beeeyoootiful job on the cretin in chief's address to Federalist Society extolling the constitution too
http://www.salon.com/opinion/gre...bush/
index.html
Liberal Mountain t'giving:
Pumpkin-curry soup (an experiment)
Turkey with onion & raisin stuffing
Homemade gravy (but I can't handle giblets)
mashed potatoes
corn
yams (not candied)
green bean & mushroom casserole
green salad
pumpkin pie
mixed berry trifle
beaujolais nouveau
Weirdly, I think Thers, NTodd and I are all the same age.
Are you another of the boys of 69?
I would be a 69er.
Oh, brave Molly, a green salad, and where on the table will that fit? and will the littlies eat same? I always tried pushing the stuff and they turned up the wee noses, and then my son turned vegetarian - altho he's backed off that now.
Giblet gravy is very yummy Molly. You don't have to even do that much with it. Just pull it out of the bird and plop it into a pot with some chicken stock, onion, celery, carrot, and bay leaf.
Just let it simmer for a few hours, make a roux, strain the liquid in, and that's about it. You can get Thers to chop the meat off the neck bone to toss in the gravy.
Ruth,
My kids eat nothing. Well, SP does, but he's my angel. The 8YO and Rosie are finicky monsters.
They'll eat a little meat, maybe some mashed potatoes and gravy. That's about it.
But leftovers are half the point of Thanksgiving. Maybe more.
Leftovers definately are the point. You get a four day week-end. You just stumble into the kitchen friday and saturday morning, toast some sourdough bread, slap some mayo on it, and come up with interesting food groups to make sandwiches with.
I used to love those cold turkey sandwiches in my lunch box for a week after Thanksgiving.
trifecta,
Don't take this the wrong way, but ick.
As the sixth of seven kids, my mom had given up on organ meats by the time I came along, and I never did develop a taste for them.
Molly, that's why I did hot dogs one year, just so they'd eat a real (for them) meal. and I don't like hot dogs.
I seem to remember that a meatloaf made with veggie soup was one thing that kept my tribe alive.
Something to do with the left over Turkey. Make your own pot pies. Unless you are a very bad cook, however you make it will be much better than the fair to be found in the frozen shelf of your grocery store.
I read this website once with creative ideas for leftovers. Turkey pot pie and turkey fried rice were my favorite ideas.
Doug,whatever the commercial pot pies have in the gravy makes me very suspicious,it's basically glue.
I'll bet yo could make a turkey shepherd's pie too, though I've never tried that.
Turkey and stuffing sandwiches with cranberry sauce were my fav.
Ruth, I think it's just wheat by products and water in commercial pot pies. You home make it, you make yourself a veloute, or bechamel sauce.
Smith remains the most common surname in the United States, according to a new analysis released yesterday by the Census Bureau. But for the first time, two Hispanic surnames — Garcia and Rodriguez — are among the top 10 most common in the nation, and Martinez nearly edged out Wilson for 10th place.
(Lou Dobbs must be hitting the bottle hard about this report)
Garcia is the S.Amn. Smith, I have always been told.
Tis the season--I just heard a gunshot.
Wheat with water, that's glue. And btw if you want Friday's cute adoptable kitty pic, it's waiting for you at http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com/
Molly, wear red and don't go out in the back yard without shouting "It's a person, I am not a deer." first.
Ruth,
Yeah, i just wish Thers had gotten all the lawn furniture in before now so we wouldn't have to be out there this week.
Another shot. It's like living in the inner city.
Morning peeps.
So all this hand wringing about earmarks. Seems over $15 billion have been proposed by w himself. Including money for his father's Thousand Points of Life and Laura's librarian foundation. These people are scum.
Good morning, ql. Here, have a turkey sandwich. Watch out, though, they've been shooting around here.
oh, Thers, get over to WaPo and comment on intemperate emails, pls.
my comment:
'Fie on the fell Page, how could he have been so intemperate without choosing to be anonymous? '
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...8_Comments.html
Hi Marcellina.
Kids aren't coming home for T-Day so we'll probably have turkey cutlets with mashed and gravy. Maybe a salad.
"AND I DIDN'T MEAN YOU WERE A REAL FAGGOT, JOHN EDWARDS, JUST "FAGGOTY" --Ann Coulter
Hiya, ql!
Dad went into hospital with pneumonia, hope he recovers soon.
ql, remarks about the congress acting like a teenager with a credit card are hilarious enuff, and Glenn Greenwald does a job on the ode to the constitution the cretin in chief did at the Federalist Society, see http://www.salon.com/opinion/gre...bush/
index.html
(I decided I prefer the British locution, affected or not, because one rarely knows which hospital someone has gone into.)
plantsman, large concern and wishes for health to your dad. Does he get Thanksgiving hospital food or can you take/send something in?
Hope he's well soon, plantsman. Where is he located in relation to you?
There are just enough leaves left on the cottonwoods for the rain to sound very sprightly!
Morning Molly.
How's Rosie. Is her hair growing back?
Across the continent in Pinehurst, NC.
Plantsman, hope your Dad recovers quickly.
I find myself using "in hospital" frequently too.
Americans do say "in bed" and "in school", after all.
ql,
Sort of. But it's coming in quite slowly, and thick.
Dad's wife is not known for her cooking, at all. He'll get a bland, but more traditional Thanksgiving
Dinner in hospital, I feel certain.
We'll see how much paralysis and age slow down his recovery - the moment Betsy told me, I felt glad I got my pneumonia shot this year.
You'll be sending him the traditional five-finger turkey won't you, plantsman? My son is going to be required to produce one now that I think of it. Will he forgive me if I don't?
Good morning all. I'm looking forward to my first gluten-free Thanksgiving dinner. Suprising how many recipes can be found on these innertubes.
So what happened on Jeopardy? Did Sinfonian win?
I made and sent a card yesterday before I knew, and I think there's still only one hospital in Pinehurst, so he'll hear from me in any case - I'll find out his whereabouts one way or another.
The DFH market keeps running specials on gluten-free baking mixes, and I think of Ralphie each time I see them.
So what happened on Jeopardy? Did Sinfonian win?
No.
PSoTD posted this last night. It is just wrong but did elicit a giggle.
No.
Oh, poo.
Well, I guess he's not covering EschaCon.
He lost in a tie breaker on final jeopardy.
He lost in a tie breaker on final jeopardy.
Son of a bitch!
Well, it's a good thing he's so cheerful.
Nuts.
Still, I am very proud of him and extremely honored to know him here.
Had to bus to the bank, for the first time in the dark, last evening. It was raining and the bus was humid as all get out, with condensation inside all the windows and my glasses fogged up horribly, making me feel even dorkier than usual.
He missed a question about Fellini. He was roundly mocked, but kept his sense of humor about it.
He's so cool, and his kids are so cute; I hope he's dating someone.
Good morning.
What question did Sinfonian miss?
Do you remember?
Be glad for humidity, plantsman, the NBC news last night did a number on their emails about a scene with rain in the background - one from an Atlantan saying "How could you?"
I generally am glad for humidity -- in the winter months it indicates more warmth than dry cold would.
Did you get snow, Molly?
What question did Sinfonian miss?
Something about which movie director named a movie after the number of movies he made. Answer was Fellini, 8 1/2.
Good morning. Snow coming here tomorrow, we're renting the splitter dawn to dusk, brr.
This was in the Philadelphia Inquirer today, about the local who won (last night or earlier, I don't know):
Having bet almost all her money, she used nerves as cold as the "ice shelf" and "permafrost" mentioned in her Daily Double clue and figured out that "I.P.Y." stood for "International Polar Year," and that brought her from way behind to challenge the smug Canadian composer Doug Hicton.
I found that last part unnecessary. Why does every newspaper reporter want to be a kewl kid?
Molly, wear red and don't go out in the back yard without shouting "It's a person, I am not a deer." first.
Ruth
Are you kidding? Every deer in the forest tries that. No hunter will be fooled by it.
Will some one run a video of the show? because I would love to see it. Pro'ly violates copyright unless done privately tho, I guess.
Must be a good feeling getting all that wood split, though.
So what happened on Jeopardy? Did Sinfonian win?
Molly Ivors
No, the terrorists did.
jac, I see you know deer psychology. Have I told you about the Cat's Manual to Getting Adopted?
The Biggest Problem Of Them All
The Humane Society is pushing kitteh adoptions here right now.
We did have snow this week, but it's almost gone now. More tonight.
a smug gets you two extra points if it's related to a foreigner, doesn't it?
Deer season starts in Wisconsin today. Some dairy farmers drape their cows in blaze orange. A few get shot every year. Must be tough to field dress and drag one out.
jac, I see you know deer psychology. Have I told you about the Cat's Manual to Getting Adopted?
Ruth
I have not read that one. But in 1993 we adopted two. My wife was walking through the room with all the cages, and a little 4-week-old kitten reached through the cage, snagged her shirt, stared straight at her, and "shouted."
"Well, you've been picked, now let me find one" was all I said.
It was a match made in heaven for the two of them.
Particularly a Canadian or Eurotrash foreigner.
Kitty adoptions! my own favorite plea - see http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com/
a smug gets you two extra points if it's related to a foreigner, doesn't it?
It's de rigeur to use a derogatory adjective in connection with a foreigner, especially one from a communist country such as Canada or France.
The Humane Society is pushing kitteh adoptions here right now.
plantsman, bulbalicious
God damn the pusher man.
jac, my daughter chose the puppy that peed on her shoe to claim her.
Articles all over about the illegal immigrant in Chicago grabbed for deportation, with much detail about her nursing baby getting farmed out for foster care. Baby had a hard time getting weaned suddenly, wouldn't take the bottle for a few days.
What a stupidity, they had to pass a law enabling families at risk to be under house arrest while awaiting deportation. Meaning, stupid not to factor in the needs of families in processing parents for deportation.
my daughter chose the puppy that peed on her shoe
_
That's one smart poochie.
What a stupidity, they had to pass a law enabling families at risk to be under house arrest while awaiting deportation. Meaning, stupid not to factor in the needs of families in processing parents for deportation.
el
Immigrants are people? People have needs?
Who knew?
Ah yes, the Republican Designated Hatee™, the undocumented infant terrorist!
el, in TX there was a stir because families being detained as illeguls were put into a former prison, with the appropriate cages and elementary facilities.
What a stupidity, they had to pass a law enabling families at risk to be under house arrest while awaiting deportation. Meaning, stupid not to factor in the needs of families in processing parents for deportation.
el
They don't want to think of the people awaiting deportation as human. It confuses them.
The only reason I am awake is that the Golden Child left her alarm set, which went off at 5:30 and alerted the cat who decided it was time to eat and why weren't we up feeding it?
The Child, of course, slept through it all. And now the cats are quiet again.
Why do I live with 7 cats?
Happy Saturday morning, rational people.
The House Arrest I've been suffering under is now officially lifted.
Immigrants are people? People have needs?
__
Quite a problem, children having citizenship, parents not. France gets foster care for children in school until the term is ended. Most go with or rejoin their parents. But citizen kids can't get forced out. Tricky.
Hi, Diane, it's not over yet? at http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com/
Gotta make breakfast now.
Wear bright orange everyone!
brb
The House Arrest I've been suffering under is now officially lifted.
Waiting for the cable man?
Danny De Vito is thinking of suing Tom Tancredo over that "Before it's too late" ad and provided a clip of the TV movie it was lifted from to MSNBC (from 1983).
Waiting for the cable man?
Molly Ivors
Nah, nothing so glamorous. My arrhythmia flared up, so I've been confined to bed wearing a freakin' Holter monitor until the new med dosage kicked in.
De Vito was watching Hardball when Tweety ran Tancredo's hideous fear-provoking ad, and it reminded him of a role he had played as a New Joisy pol, and the rest is history
arrhythmia
_
How do you know when it flares up? Good you have the remedy started.
I've gotta go make some euros. Have a safe Saturday, everyone — watch out for those deer hunters!
One of my blood-pressure meds masks the racing-heart symptom of hypoglycemia, so I've gotta jab my finger to know what's up.
How do you know when it flares up? Good you have the remedy started.
el
My heart rate accelerates and then I get dizzy and disoriented.
Said med just came off patent and a generic came out a couple months ago, and sweet old Costco switched me over and charged me less automatically. Nice when something works the same and gets cheaper.
plantsman,
My bro was recently diagnosed with diabetes, and his medication messed him up so badly that he missed meningitis!
His fella was out of town, too, so he was pretty sick by the time he got home and got him to a doc.
But Diane, the kitties need the opportunity to practice bed-bouncing, give them a break. (glad you're out and about again.)
sweet old Costco switched me over and charged me less automatically. Nice when something works the same and gets cheaper.
plantsman
Even nicer when a business actually provides that kind of service.
Hey, where's Virginia gotten to these days?
Diane, it is. My old pharmacy was dreadful; partially filling things and making me come back for the rest later and charging the HIGHEST possible price for everything! Ain't never going back.
Molly, that happened to me last year just after I was diagnosed -- life changes as the body adjusts to living as diabetic, I think.
She emailed me the other day, ql. But she didn't say that she was going anywhere.
Dammit, my youngest nephew-16 next week-has been expelled from HS for dealing his presciption drugs to his friends.
This war-funding mess and Gate's threats are a drag.
Nice! my 'seminal' comment at WaPo's Hiattism on Social Security has 2 'recommends' now. I'm going to put stars on my shirt as they come along. heh
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...4_Comments.html
Sheesh, Buckeye.
Hopefully he'll figure out a way to turn that entrepreneurial spirit in more acceptable ways.
Buckeye, that sucks. But I had HS friends who got a few years in private schools by a similar route. I'll start thinking of names.
Cool, Ruth! It's nice to see clarity of thought appreciated.
Business school! that's it!
Buckeye, that sucks. But I had HS friends who got a few years in private schools by a similar route. I'll start thinking of names.
Ruth | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 8:01 am
He's in the Ontario, CA area.
Not sure he can afford the school, though.
Parents going through a divorce-a nasty one which I'm sure is contributing to his 'issues' and my BIL's loss of 40,000 a year in salary.
Good morning. I woke up to quite a nice surprise. My 2 step brothers sent me $100 gift certificate for Amazon. What to buy, what to buy?
CSpan commenter emotional 'how can they leave our troops unfunded' - and blaming it on the occupied WH. yay
NatureMade Vitamins/Supplements has these silly codes they print on the side of the bottle, and if you go online and "bank" your purchases, you quickly accumulate points for dollars-off coupons.
I've already gotten a $5 and $7 coupons in less than a year.
plantsman, aw shucks. thks.
I keep trying but so does fred.
So many choices at Amazon! Nice.
Good morning. I woke up to quite a nice surprise. My 2 step brothers sent me $100 gift certificate for Amazon. What to buy, what to buy?
Karin
Wow, how cool is that!
Is it your birthday?
Good commenting, Ruth.
Karin you could start with DWD's book
Thanks Karin, if only fred would stop fighting back.
Time for some online bill-paying. Have a great day, all!
Completely OT: is there generally anything inside canned pumpkin except, you know, pumpkin?
I want to use our garden ones, ut all the recipes call for canned, so I want to know if I need to adjust.
No Diane, not my birthday or anything. They were just expressing appreciation for my continued care of my father who is in assisted living nearby, and their mother, who was also there with him until she passed away, back in 2002. They (the steps) both live out of state, so most of the care fell to me when she was ill.
Thanks, Ruth.
Morning, all
Ruth sez:
Karin you could start with DWD's book
Oh, Jeebus, no book that that.
.
Seeds, Molly
Canned pumpkin (as opposed to pumpkin pie filling) should have nothing but pumpkin in it. Are your garden ones the pie pumpkins, or Halloween pumpkins, Molly?
*than* that.
Dammit.
.
Karin how about a book?
Pumkins
http://www.slashfood.com/2005/10...really-pumpkin/
so rudolfo said he will pick conservative judges for the supremes, when speaking at the fascist society, the er uh federalist society, does this mean he faked his pro-choice stance to win mayor of NYC?
why ANYONE older than 25 trusts a repugnicant, i'll never know
Molly, I remember having to add ginger for pumpkin pie.
Karin,
If I had an Amazon gift cert, I'd by the DVD set of I, Claudius.
But then I'm a geek.
And they're sort of halloween pumpkins, but they're whole and all that. I know how to chunk them up and bake them until soft, like you do for pies, but this is for soup.
"100% pure pumpkin" crows the Libby web site. They announce that they only use "a special variety of pumpkin called the Dickinson." But is that really pumpkin? Experts disagree. For one, it's not orange. The Dickinson Field squash belongs to a species known as Cucurbita moschata, sharing a genus (Cucurbita) with the Jack-O-Lantern pumpkins, but betraying its Halloween-y origins with a decidedly tan skin. A little like the butternut squash - and, in fact, the Dickinson cross-polinates with the butternut.
Despite its tan skin, the Dickinson has that lovely orange flesh you expect from your pumpkin (no artificial coloring necessary). It has all the vitamins and minerals you know and love. It tastes great (and - if you really want to know - those pretty orange-skinned pumpkins? they don't taste so good). It's just that the pumpkin on the label, the one with the bright orange skin, is a bit of a white lie.
At the link above. Who knows? I just eat the stuff.
never heard of that one, Honey Bear, is it good? I like mysteries, a little sci-fi and detective novels but thrillers not so much.
mogwai, why do you hate our under-25's?
Are your garden ones the pie pumpkins, or Halloween pumpkins, Molly?
You can make a pretty good pie if you use squashes instead of a pumpkin. The ones I like best are called turban squashes.
Time for my breakfast, bats, so I'm off for a while.
If you have the time and inclination, do check out my take on Reid's masterful handling of the war funding bill.
Punkin pie from scratch
http://www.pumpkinpatchesandmore.../
pumpkinpie.php
Mary,
The Joy of Cooking in its instructions for pumpkin pie says to wash and cut the pumpkin in half crosswise. Remove seed and strings. Place it in a pan shell side up and bake in 325 oven for 1 hour or more, depending on size until it is tender and begins to fall apart. Scrape the pulp from the shell and put it through a ricer or strainer or blender.
The recipe adds salt, cinnamon, etc. so you shouldn't have to add anything to th pumpkin itself.
Thanks for all the help I love you guys!
Okay, sweet ones. I have to go into the office for a few hours. *mwah!*
Karin,
If you are curious - try my homepage link and see if it is something that might be interesting to you. If not, keep looking.
Kid C,
Send me your snail mail addy when you get a chance.
Re; Pumpkin
Oh, if it's soup I wouldn't worry about it. If it was pie you might have to adjust because the fresh stuff has more water content than the canned.
so our fascist courts believe that in a demcoracy, the state can keep secrets from it's people, keep secrets from courts too....what state secrets are so important that no one can know? cause nukes are out on the internets and physics books...other than that, i would think military maneuvers...but that is all, i want to live under freedom, not feardom - if it needs to be kept secret, it can't be very legal
democracy is a crock to keep the rich in power, nothing else
Karin, I'm sure you can find wonderful ways to spend your gift certs, and my next gift will come in on Monday, some L'Occitane de Provence.
but
I, Claudius is a must for a fulfilled life, indeed.
DVD's book, what is the name of the latest one? I'm having mental block. but Silent Screams:
http://www.amazon.com/Silent-Scr...i/dp/
0972896961
One other thing to do with either fresh pumpkin or squash is after baking it till soft, push the resulting pulp through a fine mesh wire sieve. This way there won't be any strings in the pie custard.
I'll check it out DWD.
OK, lots of pre-T-day work to do, bbl.
Ruth,
Just being helpful, here is the Amazon link for CHALLENGE. (Geez, I need to go back to bed. I am obnoxious at selling books (sigh))
http://www.amazon.com/gp/
product...5Fencoding=UTF8
Sugar punkins, Molly
Baking with Fresh Pumpkin
The best pumpkin for baking with fresh pumpkin, is the sugar pumpkin. It is small and sweet, with dark orange colored flesh and works perfectly in pies, soups, side dishes, cookies and breads. The jack-o-lantern pumpkin is too large and stringy for baking. Canned pumpkin is always an alternative as well, but nothing makes home made pumpkin treats taste better than fresh pumpkin.
Once you've tasted a pie made with fresh pumpkin, it's difficult to go back to canned...
mogwai, why do you hate our under-25's?
Ruth
i love them, you kidding?
my off-hand comment was because i expect the youth to be more trusting and less bitter - therefore more apt to be swayed by the fascists
I like to put ginger in my pumpkin soup.
Karin the book is about a Blair type character that gets hauled into the International Court for war crimes after he retires to Martha's Vineyard.
Doug, those turban squashes are so decorative, I hate to cut them up, tho.
DWD, is what I meant. and you are not obnoxious at selling, it's something I never could do for myself at all.
Karin the book is about a Blair type character that gets hauled into the International Court for war crimes after he retires to Martha's Vineyard.
ooh, wish fulfillment, I like it.
6.30 in the morning and you all are already making me feel guilty for not yet having carved up my ghost pumpkin and made three pies from it.
~~~Sigh~~~. I was going to make brownies.
.
Is anyone going to give Harry Reid some points for refusing to dismiss the Senate so the occupied WH can't make interim appointments? I'm loving it. No dregs on the doll. Yay!!
Fresh ginger or ground dry ginger?
A little like the butternut squash - and, in fact, the Dickinson cross-polinates with the butternut.
Yeah, yeah. All these cross pollinate with other varieties, just as you never plant cucumbers and melons next to each other unless you want some unknown THING later on.
And by the way, who came over and planted these squash in my garden? They're not going to make it past December.
Every year the Danish (acorn) squash hit the stores, and they're so cheap, I automatically buy one - and then rarely ever cook it.
mogwai, under 25 I was closer to being a commie pinko than I am now, I think you don't give those kids enuff credit. Maybe they're less cynical, they still think they can move the world forward more than a budge.
This holiday season, don't forget the homeless.
http://weburbanist.com/2007/08/0...eless-shelters/
give Harry Reid some points for refusing to dismiss the Senate so the occupied WH can't make interim appointments?
that is good...if only he had that creativity in the warmongering funding bill fight
Speaking of wingnuts, did you know Digg.com was censoring Brave New Films because they dared criticize Faux News?
If you have a Digg account, uprate the story here.
plantsman, they're so good, but get the turbans then if you don't cook it you can just persuade yourself it deserves to live because it's beautiful.
Nice idea, Doug.
We have a great food bank all the "natural" stores support, so some of the homeless get some good produce and stuff at Thanksgiving.
Wanna see scary? get on CSpan. Aiyeeeee.
Is anyone going to give Harry Reid some points for refusing to dismiss the Senate so the occupied WH can't make interim appointments?
No.
He's got a huge deficit to overcome before he can start accruing "points"...
Damn fridge! Freezer still freezing, reefer not cool;
landlords have yet to meet the complex manager in person, so don't know what to do.
plantsman, cut out groceries.
dave, I'm giving him encouragement, you can apply the stick.
Some guy stopped by and talked about how he was going to come the next day and power-wash the front deck thingies and treat them with some zinc
something-or-other to kill and resist mold from growing, but of course he never came back to do it.
under 25 I was closer to being a commie pinko than I am now, I think you don't give those kids enuff credit.
i have < 25 year old friends and while they are democrats, they ain't DFH's.
i think times are different, with FAR more materialism than ever before - that's what i see
o mi god - Dardenne, MO, a 13-yr-old's family invented an online boyfriend for their daughter's former friend who then dumped the former friend who killed herself. A world of cheerleader moms! Ugh.
sorry, no link, reading the dallas morning news.
Diet is very cut and dried, some refrigeration required. Am gonna ice-up the ice chest in a few hours and start camping out in the apartment again. It's a small, irritating hassle i went through last year -- but the fridge was still under warranty then, it's not anymore.
mogwai, I think we just reinforced your tho't that the world is different now.
It's morning wake up!
Darude-Feel The Beat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m...h?
v=mN84To5ndw0
Good morning all. I'm looking forward to my first gluten-free Thanksgiving dinner.
GBless
Celiac disease is going around this place.
California lost 15,800 jobs in October
The drop reflects housing problems and a run-up to the writers strike. Analysts are split on a possible recession.
By Molly Selvin
Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
November 17, 2007
A cooling in housing and Hollywood helped push California employers to cut 15,800 jobs last month, leaving economists split over whether the state's economy was merely slowing or about to get a lot worse.
The state's unemployment rate held steady at 5.6%, unchanged from September but up from 4.8% in October 2006, the California Employment Development Department reported Friday.
And for the second month in a row, more than 1 million Californians were looking for work -- a benchmark not seen in nearly three years. The number of unemployed slipped to 1.02 million in October, down 7,000 from September but up 166,000 from a year earlier.
October's decline in employment, the biggest since the loss of 14,000 jobs in July, confirms that the state's economy is slowing, said Stephen Levy, who directs the Center for the Continuing Study of the California Economy in Palo Alto.
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Dardene, MO - wingnut humor all over the place.
http://
suburbanjournals.stltoday...pokin_1.ii1.txt
On a brighter note, wildfires destroyed hundreds of homes, necessitating replacement.
Celiac disease is going around this place.
Maybe we're all distantly related.
"confirms that the state's economy is slowing"
Dayammmm, that used to be the state, where if you had some gumption, you could make some money, the golden bear, or golden mountain state.
Proves that our prez really does have the turd touch.
Ralphie, I'm adopted
Diabetes has revealed to me that however similar we all may seem to be, there's a lot of individual variation among bodies.
I can't say I have much enthusiasm for a traditional Thanksgiving feast. I can eat a little of everything but the idea of gorging myself like that?
Euchhhh.
"When I was 11 or so, a friend and I were engaging in whatever passed for 11 year old trash talkin"
you were friends with a wingnut?
When the tryptophan from the turkey kicks in, everyone wants a nap. Or pretend you're diabetic, and really monitor and limit the carbs.
3 Democratic presidential candidates--Clinton,Edwards,Kucinich--are talking environmental issues later today. Go here Green Long Islandfor ore info.
GWPDA,
Got California beat, hands down. (Y'all thirsty yet?)
Michigan’s economic woes are expected to continue, as an estimated 76,000 jobs are projected to be lost this year, according to a University of Michigan economic study.
The annual forecast of the Michigan economy released Friday, suggests that the state will lose another 51,000 in 2008. The following year, Michigan is expected to gain 15,000 jobs."
(We had already lost 400,000 jobs since 2000)
Close Tags! Dammit!
Well Doug, I look at it this way. I skip breakfast. Have the thanksgiving meal as the one meal for the day. Yes, you gorge yourself, but it's kind of three meals in one.
Being a non-religious sort, I spiritually space-out
on Thanksgiving, and try to concentrate on being thankful for being alive, and push the meal into the background a bit.
Hmmm sounds like the end of US domination of the UN. The US is still on the security council, but otherwise...?
"UN calls for joint climate effort
United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-moon says a new report on climate change has set the stage for a real breakthrough in tackling the issue.
Launching the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report, he said it made clear that real and affordable ways to deal with the problem exist.
He called for action at next month's climate change conference in Bali.
The IPCC report states that climate change is "unequivocal" and may bring "abrupt and irreversible" impacts"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/scien...ure/
7098902.stm
Over at TBogg he catches one of Pasty Goldstein's co-bloggers pulling one of the all-time asshole moves.
Just appalling.
http://tbogg.blogspot.com/2007/1...-
godlstein.html
"That was parody spitting, dude. Don't you get it? Sheesh."
I? I'm trying, once again, to remain unconscious until after Easter. The wonderful family holiday season does very, very bad things to my endocrine system.
The end of US domination will make us more palatable to the world; look how much more romantically the British are seen since the End of Empire.
but it's kind of three meals in one.
Naw, I'll probably fix myself a turkey sandwich, nibble on some vegetables and a little bite of mashed potatoes and have a slice of pie and call that thanksgiving dinner. Snack later, like normal.
Gosh, I was spitting on this thread at work last night
GWPDA,
You are welcome at Casa DWD for Thanksgiving if you are in the area. Can't promise you haute cuisine but the food is good and the people are pretty nice for the most part and we would enjoy the company.
I wish I wasn't so conscious of the cost and consequences of using electricity (Thanks, Moe).
I intend to string lights, but I feel guilty for burning them.
Early power plays by Mittens Romney - the death of missionaries, priests and honor....
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"unconscious until after Easter. The wonderful family holiday season does very, very bad things to my endocrine system."
the greyness of winter, along with holiday stress, does it for me.
i'm going into my little shop and won't be much seen until around april 15. i will try to be happy.
I'm really enjoying my noise cancellation headphones. I can rock out (or listen to the Wagner ring cycle if I prefer) and not keep awake, the rest of the family.
Thanksgiving is my least favorite holiday food-wise. Even if I could get excited about roasting a turkey, I would have to somehow wrest the honor from a line of jealous familial matriarchs. I don't even get much say in the side dishes. I guess I can bring wine, at least.....
You are welcome at Casa DWD for Thanksgiving if you are in the area.,/i>
Thanks for the thought, but I somehow don't see it.
Bring wine you'll really enjoy sharing and get tipsy and make a fool of yourself. Most importantly, enjoy it for what it is, a harvest and abundance festival.
Slainte!
My T'g effort is going to be a sliceable turkey breast, the kind that's wrapped in plastic and looks a little squashed, with all the trimmings, so my mom can have some.
and now must go do those errand thingies. Have a great day and see what Diane's chalking up for the session at http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com/
Good morning.
Um.....
off to pack the videocamera and see the nephew in 'guys and dolls'...should be a real hoot!
Ruth, that's sweet; it IS the thought that counts.
Slanties, they are CATCHING this morning.
Well, you are CERTAINLY welcome, GWPDA, it would be nice to have someone intelligent to talk to besides Mrs DWD and Youngest DWD. (Young DWD is actually pretty much hopeless at this point. Nice boy but loves football and does not read and harbors contempt for those who do. I did my best, HONEST.)
Most importantly, enjoy it for what it is, a harvest and abundance festival.
plantsman, bulbalicious
I did "win" a free turkey at Basha's, plantsman - or in this case, a nearly 9lb (!) breast. With Billy B's help I have the receipt and method to smoke the thing out on the barbecue - so that's going to be quite a lot of abundance. And, it's entirely possible that these tomatoes will be ready to pick by next Thursday as well....
Cold along the Northern Tier, Zap?
get tipsy and make a fool of yourself
Some would say that the first part is not required, but in truth I must take care in that area lest I forget myself and delve into the Forbidden Subject of politics within 100yds. of my father in law.....
Zapette just dropped some flowers off for our friend who just had a miscarriage. So sad.
Zap! Howza house? Howza landscaping?
That sounds great GWPDA! I dunno why I am so high on it this year, but it's better than being bummed out, for me anyway.
Cold along the Northern Tier, Zap?
Not too bad...a little above average. Saw some snowflakes this morning. Nothing that'll stick.
enjoy it for what it is, a harvest and abundance festival.
plantsman,
It's actually my favorite holiday. Alas my family is spread far and wide and won't be home for the holidays.
Howza landscaping?
Seed and bulbs laid down weeks ago. Not much else we can do this season short of shoveling.
Leaves are covering the beds.
.a nearly 9lb (!) breast.
Quite the challenge, that. Could easily come out like the Sahara. I'd be curious what would happen if one larded it through and through with strips of bacon or salt pork. Perhaps a bit of mammoplasty with congealed duck fat as the implant......
It gets very low ambient light around here in winter
what with the dark clouds alla time, and this year I'm stringing icicle lights inside to combat it. Maybe I'll find some Chianti bottles and plastic grapes, too.
It gets very low ambient light around here in winter
what with the dark clouds alla time
I thought you lived in Florida, no?
Heh. "Marine-influenced" Northwest Oregon.
Got some fine Dungeness Crab up our way.
Quite the challenge, that. Could easily come out like the Sahara. I'd be curious what would happen if one larded it through and through with strips of bacon or salt pork. Perhaps a bit of mammoplasty with congealed duck fat as the implant......
blerb
This is why I'm gonna water smoke it, long time. (Actually, I'll use the same trick I use when I barbecue a chicken - couple cans of chicken stock in the water pan just sets it right up.) Throw in a couple of potatoes and some carrots the last couple of hours and it should be good.
Tangerines, Satsumas, Clementines, and oranges should be ripening up shortly down your way, GWPDA.
This is nice - the SFChronicle's battle for Thanksgiving dinner.
Did those blood-orange trees in your neighborhood get chopped down last year?
on KO last night: abu dhabi bought 8% of AMD, and the idiot FOX bizz channel 1st reported that it was apple, so stupid it hurts...
nice to see that uh-merica is REALLY cheap right now, just like it was in the late 80's during/after reagan and bush 1 when the japanese were buying up the west coast.
maybe there will be a good thing in that our furrin' overlords will smack down the fascists...nah, ALL overlords become fascists
HICA!
CURLY!
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afternoon moonbats
(Actually, I'll use the same trick I use when I barbecue a chicken - couple cans of chicken stock in the water pan just sets it right up.)
That sounds like a good procedure. The breasts of fowl are problematic in general with their extreme paucity of fat. With my chickens, I have taken to cutting a whole bunch of internal slits in the pleural membrane between the ribs using a paring knife, then packing the cavity with a poultice of onions, rosemary, garlic, and olive oil/butter. The fat slowly oozes into the breast from behind as it roasts. Or course, with a 9 lb. turky breast, Idon' think you could get enoughpenetration for that trick to work.
Know what's neat?
I can see this old airmail beacon atop Indian Mounds Park from my porch at night.
let's talk a little about the humor of the left, including the slander of Gen. David Petraeus as "General Betray Us" or portraying Pres. Bush as Hitler, or exploiting 2-year-old Bethany Wilkerson of St. Petersburg, Fla., who was born with several holes in her heart, or, or ... etc.
Selective, aren't we?
Get real.
Curly Rockette-ing. Who'da Thunk?
npr = stinking pile of shit
npr-gate continues:
npr asshole: The Clinton camp produced a credit card receipt showing a $100 tip
npr asshole [much later]: I miss spoke earlier, there was no credit card receipt with a $100 tip and no one at the restaurant reported receiving a tip
Editor's Note: The Tale of the Tip
Maid-Rite's manager, Brad Crawford, said Thursday that while he was not present at the restaurant on Oct. 8, he knew that a bill was paid by the campaign that day. He also said that he believed three of six servers working that day received tips from people he thought were working for or affiliated with the Clinton campaign.
Crawford said he didn't know if campaign staffers meant "for their tips to be distributed to everybody" or whether they were meant only for individual servers.
http://www.npr.org/templates/
sto...toryId=16138132
*** UPDATE 2 *** The manager of the of the restaurant tells First Read the Clinton campaign did, in fact, tip.
"They paid their bill, and they left a tip," said Brad Crawford, manager of the Maid Rite restaurant in Toledo, Iowa. "Everybody was satisfied. No question about it."
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/a.../08/
455077.aspx
TurdAss Chili Bean here to dump in the punchbowl.
bit more exotic than the Thames - Biologists and villagers in a remote corner of the Amazon rainforest were searching for a 12-tonne whale yesterday that had reportedly lost its way and become stranded 1,000 miles from the ocean.
The five-metre long (16ft) creature, which biologists said was probably a minke whale, became stranded on a beach on the Tapajos river, 39 miles from the city of Santarem. Environmental experts said the whale had probably become separated from its group in the Atlantic Ocean, off northern Brazil, after falling ill or being hit by a boat.
The whale appeared to have entered the Amazon near the city of Belem before reaching the Tapajos, a tributary of the Amazon. Efforts to rescue the animal began on Tuesday, after local fishermen contacted environmental officials in Santarem by radio. On Thursday biologists arrived at the scene by boat and isolated the sandbank.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/enviro...nov/17/
wildlife
plantsman: TurdAss Chili Bean here to dump in the punchbowl.
Just another example that the wingers don't do humor. None of the examples he provided were ever intended to be funny.
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Don Henley & the Eagles sell their souls for buckets of money even though he already has truck loads:
CNN: I was surprised when it was announced you had gone with a Wal-Mart deal exclusively. Why did you do that?
HENLEY: Our deal with the major label expired several years ago, and we just decided we wanted to try something new. ... Everybody's been calling for a new paradigm in the record industry. Some people have gone to the Internet and haven't had a lot of success with that.
Some people have decided to go with the indie labels, who are mostly distributed by the major labels. Some people have signed with major coffee companies with varying degrees of success.
So Wal-Mart came to us, and they made us a really good offer. And they told us about their green initiative, and how they're trying to make their company more ecologically responsible. And we were impressed by their programs in that regard, and what they're trying to do. And a lot of our fans are customers of Wal-Mart, so we thought it was a good fit.
TCB you dumbass none of that was meant to be funny.
Unlike that jammie wearing peeing in his pants "satire".
Humphrey the Wayward Humpback became quite a celebrity when he became lost in Northern California's waterways several years ago.
I'm nothing but a sellout ho.
And they told us about their green initiative, and how they're trying to make their company more ecologically responsible. And we were impressed by their programs in that regard, and what they're trying to do. And a lot of our fans are customers of Wal-Mart, so we thought it was a good fit.
Gag.
I was telling a co-worker yesterday that I've never spent a dime at Sprawl-Mart. She was aghast.
None of the examples he provided were ever intended to be funny.
To say nothing of the obvious fact that merely impugning somebody's honor is a far cry from laughing at the idea of pushing them in front of a train. If the shoe were on the other foot, there would be a truly impressive display of apoplectic outrage from the wingers, followed by the summary execution of everybody involved.
"CURLY!
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Jeffraham Prestonian "
Curly showing his patented goose stepping wingnut imitation?
Foreign tourists to many of India's most famous landmarks will no longer be able to pay the entrance fee in dollars, the government says.
The ruling is aimed at safeguarding tourism revenues following the recent falls in the dollar.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south...sia/
7098370.stm
I shopped at a Walmart. Once.
plantsman - No, we got the irrigation turned back on with about a minute to spare. The trees will be okay, but they'll take awhile to recover, I know that. And unfortunately, the property owners built a wall around the yard so they're now inaccessible. Selfish bastards.
But, if anybody had any pomegranates, they'd be good in this:
Cranberry Ginger-Tangerine Chutney
Makes about 2 cups
* 1 (12-ounce) bag fresh cranberries
* 4 slices ginger (1/8-inch thick), bruised 1 shallot, minced
* Two 1/2-inch strips tangerine peel
* Juice of 1 tangerine
* 2/3 to 3/4 cup sugar
* 1/2 teaspoon red pepper flakes
* 1 teaspoon finely minced ginger
* Pinch salt
Instructions: Place cranberries, ginger slices, shallot, tangerine zest, juice and sugar in a 2 1/2 quart saucepan and cook over medium-high until you hear cranberries begin to pop. Reduce heat to a simmer, and cook until the cranberries have thickened, 15-20 minutes. Add red pepper flakes, minced ginger and salt and cook an additional 5 minutes. Remove ginger slices. Cool and refrigerate if made ahead.
Per 1/2 cup: 90 calories, 0 protein, 23 g carbohydrate, 0 fat (0 saturated), 0g cholesterol, 33 mg sodium, 2 g fiber.
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let's talk a little about the humor of the left, including the slander of Gen. David Petraeus as "General Betray Us"..
Let's raise the standard a little to Rush showing us what it's like to be Michael J. Fox without his Parkinson's meds.
That one was a scream!
I thought real texas chili had no beans
blerb - I like your method - when I roast a chicken or turkey in the oven, I normally 'double stuff' it, with a good rich stuffing under the skin, along with the cavity. I may try brining this chest too - every food writer on the Coast is declaring it's the ticket.
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That Chutney sounds great! No Splenda cranberry sauce for me this year, the real thing, in very small amounts.
Michael J. Fox without his Parkinson's meds.
That one was a hoot!!!!YEEHAH!!GIT'R DOONNEEE!!
Damn, pass me that pig, Jethro...
I am brining my bird this year. Apple cider, kosher salt, peppercorns.
I got a Sur la Table catalog with all kinds of spendy brining supplies just the other day.
Interesting. Instead of announcing new campaign advisors, Giuliani has taken to announcing his new legal advisors.
Lawyer up, motherfucker!
.Cranberry Ginger-Tangerine Chutney
Sigh. Time and again I have wheedled and cajoled to be allowed to make something a tad more creative like this in the cranberry vein, but have been sternly informed that the log shape and tin can imprint are indespensable cranberry sauce aesthetics.
I don't care for cranberry sauce.
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Make it, take it, and eat it. Let those Ocean Sprayers suit themselves.
I don't think I'm eating bird this year (not by choice).
Mebbe some veggie lasagna and salad, or something.
I don't think I'm eating bird this year (not by choice).
Mebbe some veggie lasagna and salad, or something.
Zap Rowsdowe
Wild Turkey?
I love cranberry sauce in turkey sandwiches. Mom made a spicy (from Tabasco sauce) turkey salad for sandwiches from leftovers that was awesome!
Best Way Brined Turkey (SF Chronicle)
* 1 turkey, about 12 pounds
* The brine: * 1 cup sugar * 1 1/2 to 1 3/4 cups kosher salt * 2 1/2 gallons cold water * 2 bay leaves, torn into pieces * 1 bunch fresh thyme * 1 head of garlic, cloves separated and peeled * 5 whole allspice berries, crushed * 4 juniper berries, smashed
For roasting:
* 2 tablespoons softened butter + butter for basting * 1 1/2 teaspoons freshly ground black pepper * 1 cup chicken stock, or more as needed
To prepare the brine: Remove giblet bag from turkey, along with any extra internal fat and pin feathers. Rinse well under cold tap water. Combine sugar, salt and 3-4 quarts of the cold water in a large bowl. Stir until sugar and salt dissolve. Add remaining brine ingredients except for the remaining 1 1/2 gallons water.
Use a special brining bag (see What's New) or double-bag two heavy-duty, unscented trash bags and put them in an ice chest that is large enough to hold the turkey. Place turkey in bags, pour in brine and remaining 1 1/2 gallons water - there should be enough liquid to completely cover the bird. Press out air in bags; tightly close each bag separately. Keep turkey cold with bags of ice, which will also help keep it submerged in the brine. Brine for 12-24 hours.
Alternate method: Place turkey and brine in a large pan or bowl. Refrigerate for 12-24 hours. If turkey floats to top, weight it down with a plate and cans to keep it submerged in brine.
Roasting: Preheat oven to 400°. Remove turkey from brine, rinse and dry well. Spread 2 tablespoons softened butter over skin. Sprinkle pepper over skin and in cavity. Tuck wing tips under, loosely truss legs and place turkey on a V-shaped rack in a roasting pan. Tent breast with foil. Put turkey in oven. To assure that the bird cooks evenly, rotate roasting pan 180° every 30 minutes while turkey is roasting. Roast for about 1 hour, remove foil and baste turkey with 1/2 cup stock. Return to oven and roast, basting with pan drippings and more stock (if desired) every 20 minutes. Start checking internal temperature after about 1 hour of roasting time. If legs begin to get too brown, cover loosely with foil. Roast turkey until internal thigh temperature reaches 165°. Total roasting time should be about 2 to 2 3/4 hours. Let bird rest for at least 20-30 minutes before carving.
Wild Turkey?
I wish!
-younger Zap
plantsman Compact Appliance has the fridge I got on sale.
And free shipping.
Buy the new Eagles and support the Waltons and the Right-wing smear machine.
. I may try brining this chest too - every food writer on the Coast is declaring it's the ticket.
I highly reccomend it. Since I first tried it a couple of years ago, I have not roasted an unbrined chicken. The higher salt and/or sugar content in the brined meat increases its osmotic pressure, greatly enhancing its retention of moisture in the cooking process. You are guaranteed to get a moister result, no matter what other measures you take.
*** UPDATE 2 *** The manager of the of the restaurant tells First Read the Clinton campaign did, in fact, tip.
"They paid their bill, and they left a tip," said Brad Crawford, manager of the Maid Rite restaurant in Toledo, Iowa. "Everybody was satisfied. No question about it."
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/a.../08/ 455077.aspx
hadenough
Um...war in Iraq and Afghanistan continues unabated...economy going down the crapper...47 million Americans still uninsured, and no change in sight...New Orleans still unrecovered, 2 years later, and who's paying attention?...Democrats have yet another pointless debate in which nothing is discussed and much is said....
...and I'm supposed to care about a story about a campaign leaving a tip? Or not? I don't think anyone else is really paying attention, either. Or, as the waitress said:
In this country, look at how many homeless people there are. There are millions. There are people just like me. I'm not the only parent who has had to raise two kids and barely makes $20,000 a year... This is supposed to be the United States of America, the strongest nation in the world, and we can't even provide places for our homeless. The media should be focusing on that.
Selling out? Count me in!!
I love cranberry sauce in turkey sandwiches. Mom made a spicy (from Tabasco sauce) turkey salad for sandwiches from leftovers that was awesome!
plantsman, bulbalicious
Me too. Also, inside dressing.
Best leftover tho, still, is the Duck & Decanter's Turkey-Leek salad.
I've used a simple French method for cooking turkey for the past several years. Easy, quick, and the best bird I've ever had.
I like simple.
Cool, HBK; I'm considering just buying one and sneaking it in if I can rustle up the dough.
Regardless, I have early errands to run, and Scottish opium burritos to consume (it's been more than a week since I had 'em).
bbl
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Have fun, JP! Eat hearty.
First piece of advice: never take my advice.
Second piece of advice: at least get an organic turkey. Those commercial turkey farms are something from the seventh circle of hell and the meat is full of very bad things.
"...and I'm supposed to care about a story about a campaign leaving a tip? Or not? I don't think anyone else is really paying attention, either.
Rmj, Would Prefer Not To"
It's shocking.
Debate moderators overlook key questions
Only one question about wiretapping. Not a single question about FISA.
There has, however, been a question about whether the Constitution should be changed to allow Arnold Schwarzenegger to be president.
Not one question about renditions. The words "habeas corpus" have not once been spoken by a debate moderator. Candidates have not been asked about telecom liability.
http://mediamatters.org/items/20...0002?
f=h_column
Mornin', folks.
Just stopping by before my radio segment at the top of the hour. How goes the Glorious Revolution this fine day?
Love the HULK SMASH at the top of the comments.
It's fun to customize Haloscan. I did it. You can, too!
.npr = stinking pile of shit
Try to keep in mind that NPR is not a unitary entity. There are good people working there who are doubtless also aghast at what has happened with this infiltration of winger assholes like David Greene. The wingers in general would like nothing better than for all of us to denounce NPR and turn our backs on it forever now that they have got their mitts part-way around it. It would be a real shame if that happened, especially since what is going on now can still be cured with the purge of a few key individuals.
As I sit here next to the computer with funny smoke circling my head, I muse about a "Tofu Turkey" and see the world greating this as the next great idea...
Here:
Lily's Mixed Greens
Serves 8-10
Cocoanut & garlic should be the dominant flavors of this dish from Lily Thang, so add the peanut sauce in small batches. To prepare in advance, partially cook the vegetables and then finish at the last minute. If garnishing with marigolds, make sure they are unsprayed.
* 1/3 cup olive oil * 5 to 8 cloves crushed garlic * 1 large sweet onion, diced * 2 tablespoons freshly grated ginger * 3 bunches collard greens, stems removed, leaves cleaned and coarsely chopped * 2 bunches mustard greens, stems removed, leaves cleaned and coarsely chopped * 2 bunches rapini, cleaned and finely chopped * Garlic salt to taste * About 1/2 teaspoon ground cinnamon * 1 tablespoon curry powder * 1 cup white wine, fish or chicken stock * 1/3 cup fish sauce (available in the Asian foods section of many markets) * 3/4 to 1 cup Trader Joe's peanut sauce (or use Thai Kitchen or A Taste of Thai brands) * 1 can lite organic coconut milk * 2 to 3 tablespoons cornstarch
*Marigold petals, for garnish optional
Instructions: Heat oil in a large stockpot on high heat. Add garlic, onion and ginger and saute until their aromas are released. Add greens, stirring well to coat with the oil. Let greens cook down, about 5-7 minutes.
Sprinkle in garlic salt, cinnamon and curry powder. Stir in wine or stock, fish sauce and peanut sauce, and cook about 5 minutes more. Add coconut milk and stir well. Strain about 1 cup liquid from the greens. Place cornstarch in a small work bowl. While whisking, pour the strained liquid in a steady stream, making sure there are no lumps. Pour this mixture back into the pot and cook greens for about another 2 minutes.
Ganish with flower petals, if desired.
Per serving: 320 calories, 19 g protein, 35 g carbohydrate, 15 g fat (3 g saturated), 5 mg cholesterol, 902 mg sodium, 15 g fiber.
Done Troutski, ordered a Diestel Ranch organic, allowed to grow at a normal pace outside, turkey breast from the fancy DFH market, with wild rice and citrus stuffing, potato-leek cakes, roasted brussels sprouts, and fresh made cranberry sauce,
no pie. All I gots to do is heat it up.
I had no idea that Mark Trail was the official spokescharacter for NOAA...
Well, do you trust the FDA and the Bush administration to insure the safety of the commercial meat you are eating?
I think there may be no better reason to support Hillary for President than the fact that so many assholes hate her guts. You can actually find the assholes in a group of people you don't know, just by bringing up her name. It's quite handy.
blerb that is indeed the plan.
They know that most of the contributions to NPR come from DFH listeners.
Once those donations stop coming in they'll say "oops. Have to shut down. Can't keep this enterprise going without any money."
Damn plantsman, you're stirring my carnivore instincts. I wanna come to your house.
I think there may be no better reason to support Hillary for President than the fact that so many assholes hate her guts. You can actually find the assholes in a group of people you don't know, just by bringing up her name. It's quite handy.
Del Capslock
Unfortunately, several of said assholes have nationally syndicated newspaper columns.
I don't trust factory-farmed food anymore, no way, no how.
Oil, finance and foreign ministers of the Organisation of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (Opec) are in the Saudi capital Riyadh for a rare meeting against the backdrop of a depreciating dollar.
The two-day summit, only the third in Opec's 47-year history, will not discuss whether or not to increase oil supplies in order to cool high prices.
The gathering comes at a time of tension in world oil markets.
In a closed session of foreign and finance ministers, Saudi Arabia, a close US ally, objected to a bid by Iran and Venezuela to highlight concern over the weakness of the US dollar.
The group voted the proposal out.
Abdalla Salem el-Badri, the Opec secretary-general, said the group had decided not to mention concern over dollar depreciation in the declaration.
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/
...AF9DD7EE111.htm
Lily's Mixed Greens
Waaaah! I'd need a whole new set of inlaws not to be the only one eating that at my Thanksgiving table.
Jesus Christ. Kit Bond doesn't want to nominate her, but Lieberman does?
The dude's just being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian.
My extended San Francisco family always made a one-dish, everything-in-it casserole for Thanksgiving morning from the first volume of the
San Francisco A La Carte cookbook. It was wonderful!
Waaaah! I'd need a whole new set of inlaws not to be the only one eating that at my Thanksgiving table.
blerb
There's another receipt there for green beans and pickled Vidalia onions that you might be able to sneak past. It's -almost- like "French's Green Bean Casserole".... Except it tastes good.
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ZOMG!!!!! BAR THE DOORS, THEY'RE COMING THROUGH THE WINDOWS!!!!
(just graphic)
When I went to Iowa in college and realized that for some folks there salt and pepper seemed exotic , it kind of freaked me out.
first volume of the
San Francisco A La Carte cookbook. It was wonderful!
I've got that book on my counter right now - what am I looking for?
Wingnut humor's always kind of like that.
As a child, your typical wingnut (females included) was a bed-wetter and an animal-torturer, often with a little pyromania thrown in.
This type of person rarely turns out well.
Um, my name isn't that hard to remember:
Brian Gabrielle wrote an interesting post today on Johnson Shows His Trunk
Here’s a quick excerpt
For the record, my name isn't Brian. My last name isn't Gabrielle.
http://www.alsotrack.com/?p=1113
Anyone familiar with this site?
ZOMG!!!!! BAR THE DOORS, THEY'RE COMING THROUGH THE WINDOWS!!!!
(just graphic)
watertiger
Garcia-Hernandez Johnson is correct!
It's an eggs-and-sausage casserole of some kind, rather souffle-like, though.
ZOMG!!!!! BAR THE DOORS, THEY'RE COMING THROUGH THE WINDOWS!!!!
Johnsons as far as the eye can see!
god, that SNL clip always makes me laugh.
"So you're saying we should pay more attention to the movies?"
Johnsons as far as the eye can see!
Hellllll-oooo!
Wonder what simels thought of Angelina Jolie in Beowulf, and if he saw it in 3D?
Looks like it could have either been the "Breakfast Souffle", with bacon, chipped beef, fresh mushrooms (definitely souffle) or the traditional "Hangtown Fry" with bacon and ersters.
Probably the Souffle, eh?
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freed from the Phantom Zone already?
god, that SNL clip always makes me laugh.
My favorite part of that skit (which didn't make it into the clip) was Farley's character raising his hand in Vulcan.
"Breakfast Souffle" it was!
I'll type up the receipt and send it along.
Buzzy, Buzzy, Buzzy.
A martial arts enthusiast and former Marine who has regaled friends
with tales of punching a great white shark while scuba diving, Mr.
Krongard said he later became friendly with the company’s founder, Erik
D. Prince. They have hunted near Blackwater’s North Carolina training
ground and at Mr. Krongard’s hunting club in Maryland.
Thanky.
Buzzy punches sharks while the Republican preznitshul campaigns jump them.
How appropriate.
People regretted your Jeopardy loss, Sinf; a bit earlier.
Buzzy punches sharks while the Republican preznitshul campaigns jump them.
Heh. How much you wanna bet they tranqed the shark first?
Two cups of coffee and I'm still tired.
Good thing I can rest today. I need it. Concert Week always kicks my ass. And my sore throat doesn't help ...
People regretted your Jeopardy loss, Sinf; a bit earlier.
plantsman, bulbalicious
Well, that was nice. Thanks. I'll search the thread ...
I trust Simels regretted.
Good morning, v. sad state of affairs on the internets(and this time it wasn't Malkin)
Blog Readers Out Anonymous Adults that Newspaper Refused to Identify
On Tuesday the St. Charles Journal in Missouri published a sad story about cyberbullying that drove a 13-year-old girl named Megan Meier to commit suicide last year. Meier had been harangued by one of her MySpace friends named "Josh Evans" who sent her a barrage of hateful comments that sent her over the edge.
It turns out that Evans was a pseudonym created by two adults -- one of whom knew the Meier family very well. The St. Charles Journal decided to protect the privacy of the two adults and declined to name them in the story. That didn't sit well with incensed readers, who tracked down what they say is the identity of one of the adults and posted it online. Now the paper is being criticized for giving the adults anonymity.
Apparently in the 3D version of Beowulf, Angelina's
ta-ta's jut out alarmingly at ya.
I would not want to be the cold-hearted soul who pushed the child's buttons.
Thanks for the heads-up, plantsman. I checked out the thread above, and I found it interesting that the Philadelphia Inquirer referred to second-place Doug Hicton as "smug." I can see that he might be called that, but he's just a gay Canadian.
In addition, though, he's a regular DU commenter. I suspect he's been by my place a time or two ... he's really a good guy. Celeste (the winner, from Philly) is cool, too.
The new Polish defence minister has said his country will withdraw its 900 troops deployed in Iraq next year.
The previous government of Jaroslaw Kaczynski, the former prime minister, had extended the deployment of its 900-strong force until the end of 2007 and planned to send more troops in 2008.
But Bogdan Klich, the new defence minister from the Liberal government, told the public radio station Jedynma: "I can confirm that in 2008, the Polish military contingent in Iraq will be withdrawn."
Klich said on Saturday that the details of the withdrawal would be announced next Friday when Donald Tusk, Poland's new prime minister, outlines his government's policies in parliament.
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/
...CBE90A88B3A.htm
Apparently in the 3D version of Beowulf, Angelina's
ta-ta's jut out alarmingly at ya.
plantsman, bulbalicious
Jutting ta-tas are never alarming, IMO.
They let Canadarians play in American television game shows??!?!?!
OWLS
Let's talk a little about the humor of the left, including the slander of Gen. David Petraeus as "General Betray Us" or portraying Pres. Bush as Hitler,
Yeah, let's talk about it. See, Petraeus was called that by his own subordinates, who saw him as a sellout. So the "humor" is not only that it's a play on his name, but a reference to his habit of selling out any time he got a chance to brown-nose a little further to the top of the heap.
Bush as Hitler? Was that ever supposed to be funny? I don't think so. But see, even there, it's his own behavior that drives the "joke".
On the other hand, making fun of Michael J. Fox. for his disease is cruel and stupid, because he has a disease that just happened to strike him. No humor there.
It's pretty obvious at this point that the average "conservative" understands humor the way a dog understands a clarinet. Just not clear on the concept, but perfectly willing to use it as a chew toy and call it satire.
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