I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

GravatarGee, how are the fundies gonna keep this under wraps?


GravatarBeat McCain!

Free and fun for the whole family!


Gravatarstop trademark dave!


GravatarI'm a runaway train!!!


GravatarNow, if you wanted to pay good money...


Gravatardidn't comcast just get taken to court for trying this?


GravatarPoodle bites. Poodle chews it.

CURLY!
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Gravatardeadthreaded,

for bo

look at the giant web on the right:

TPWD: Lake Tawakoni State Park


GravatarI think only NTodd likes the idea.

(I kid)


GravatarI'm glad, because that last snorg tee girl was really flipping me out.


Gravatarumm this article is from 2006.


Gravatar
Latest (angry) McCain ad: (Black guy) Obama doesn't care about hispanics.


portia linked to this in previous thread.

Obama did mention Spain which, if memory serves, is full of Hispanics.


GravatarThis was dead-threaded, and so here's my summary of McCain's Spanish latest ad:

"See...these clips we put together?! Of Obama saying the names of different countries?! He doesn't mention Latinos!"


GravatarHello again, folks.

I see that you have been discussing (among other things) spiders and butterflies. Let me add to the list of nifty insects by directing you to Bonus Critter Blogging.


GravatarParty like it's 1986.


GravatarObama did mention Spain which, if memory serves, is full of Hispanics.


Hispanolians


GravatarCorporatrist Plutocrats, GAAAAH!


GravatarWho the fuck gives a speech in Germany about Latin America.


GravatarIt's only popular with telecom execs.

And Haloscan blows chunks.


GravatarThey broke every rule, so why not that one.


GravatarBeat McCain!

Free and fun for the whole family!
dave™© |


early and often!


GravatarHey Virgotex,
I remember seeing that written up before. Great place for an arachnophobic.


GravatarNTodd, let's see, 1986...we had an infant in the house, and she was ours.  So of course no rest for the wicked.

Looking back on it, I don't know how we did it, but when I see the photos from that time, we're all smiling.  Which mystifies me because we were constantly exhausted.


Gravatarforget about Miltie. I heard that Jerry Lewis was the biggest of all, if you're only counting white boys.

But, I heard, and I am sure Simels will back me up on this, that Sammy Davis Jr. had the biggest of all. That's why he got into the white boys gang.


Gravatar{{{Jeffraham!!!}}}

You're not dronk yet, I hope


GravatarMust forage afield for vital dinner component: ice cream.


Gravatarwe had an infant in the house, and she was ours. So of course no rest for the wicked.

I can't wait...


Gravatar A new poll released Thursday shows overwhelming support from Latinos for Sen. Barack Obama over Sen. John McCain.
A new poll out Thursday shows strong support for Sen. Barack Obama among Latinos.

A new poll out Thursday shows strong support for Sen. Barack Obama among Latinos.

Obama's approval rating with registered Latino voters, the nationwide Pew Hispanic Center poll found, is at 66 percent versus 23 percent favoring McCain.


Fuck off McBombBomb.


GravatarI hate all this demographic talk. It just reflects how much the system and controllers have divided us to conquer us.


GravatarNTodd, despite the lack of sleep and relentless responsibility, you'll never have so much fun.  What you know of fun now will not compare


Gravatar

GravatarWho the fuck gives a speech in Germany about Latin America.


only a young, popular, arrogant presidential vote getter type uppity negro person


GravatarI walked by the nest by my front door and the baby birds seem to be growing and getting more active. My original view of them were two pale blue eggs about 1 cm long. Then when they hatched you could see two balls of down not much larger. I saw their hungry beaks pointed upwards. They still are pretty small.


GravatarPretty easy to say when you're not part of the demographic that's being talked about.


GravatarThe intent of the Bush family was to fuck you coming and going. And they did it.


GravatarA large gypsum deposit at Montmartre in Paris is the source of the name.


GravatarWhat you know of fun now will not compare
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere


I'm not sure fun is exactly the right word. But it's uncomparable, all right.


Gravatar♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ Sallyh ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥

You're not dronk yet, I hope

I'm 3.5 beers, in.
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GravatarPretty easy to say when you're not part of the demographic that's being talked about.

Way to miss the point. Thanks.


GravatarI hate all this demographic talk. It just reflects how much the system and controllers have divided us to conquer us.
NTodd, Counterproductive


Just the kind of attitude we'd expect from Vermont. My state is better.


GravatarComment by eine Heidelberre blocked.

Talk loud... louder... oh, wait - I'm not listening!


GravatarHowever now I think I'm going to try to attract the buzzards I've seen in the area. Put out some gobbets of raw flesh. Have buzzards nesting on my roof.


GravatarNTodd, I was with Maddy and Mlle all day Thursday.  We were in Vroman's Books, a Real Bookstore (Diane can attest to this), and in the children's reading area, there's a wooden train set, with lots of cars and track.  For about an hour, Maddy walked around the train table, pushing the train cars and going "choo choo!" the entire time, but when she passed her mom, she'd interrupt the sound effects and say "hi Mama!"  Then back to train sound effects--lather, rinse, repeat

When we're walking, she tells her mom, "Mama hand," and then she'd tell me, "Nana hand."  That way she's got an adult on either side of her. 

Okay, okay, I know, I'm being a silly grandma here


GravatarHave buzzards nesting on my roof.

Buzzards piss like racing horses, you know...


GravatarCan you see the pink?
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GravatarWait a minute... is it *that* Stevens who had the bill?


GravatarJust the kind of attitude we'd expect from Vermont. My state is better.

Yours is certainly flatter! And drier than Oregon, too! ;-P


GravatarOkay, okay, I know, I'm being a silly grandma here

That's fucking beautiful.


GravatarNTodd, she also understands when restaurant servers ask her what she wants.  Our server asked her what she wanted to drink, and she said, "Wawa!"  Mlle asked her if she'd rather have soy milk or juice, and Maddy shook her head and said, "No! Wawa!"


Gravatarlot of buzzards in my area Doug, because of the wildlife roadkill.

Buzzards are funny animals. Though, they do essential work.

I love to see them on damp mornings- they sit on the radio towers or on top of phone pole, with their wings raised to dry out.


GravatarNTodd I can see what your point is.

I'm not stupid.

I just disagree.

Is that ok?


GravatarNTodd, best of all, we're spending the day with them tomorrow, too


GravatarYour state/province sucks!


GravatarSallyh is correct. Vroman's is one of the niftiest bookstores in Southern California, and one of the few independents left.


GravatarToronto sucks.


GravatarTrademark dave aka zzzzzzzzzzz dave. A Simels sock puppet, no question.


GravatarAll I know is, if they turn the internet into something like what cable TV is now, I'll drop it in a heartbeat...what I love about the net is the flexibility, these assholes always want to control things so they can make more money. To hell with them...


Gravatar"FCC tells Comcast to stop blocking Web file sharing
Precedent - In telling the cable firm to allow transfers of large data files, the agency said it was enforcing open Internet accessSaturday, August 02, 2008 JOHN DUNBARThe Associated Press
WASHINGTON -- A divided Federal Communications Commission on Friday ruled that Comcast Corp. violated federal policy when it blocked Internet traffic for some subscribers.

The FCC ordered the cable giant to change the way it manages its network. In a precedent-setting move, the FCC by a 3-2 vote, enforced a policy that guarantees customers open access to the Internet." http://www.oregonlive.com/busine...3660.xml& coll=7


GravatarCA is not flatter than VT.

But it has a lot more sunlight.  And it's much, much drier


GravatarNTodd, she also understands when restaurant servers ask her what she wants.

wait till she starts ordering wine


GravatarI like Toronto.


GravatarDiane, I can spend an entire afternoon in Vroman's.  And have.


GravatarI helped a woman that was McCain't mom's age at Aldi, btw. For a lot longer than I intended, even.
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GravatarToronto is a super city. I much more enjoyed spending a weekend in Toronto to see a play that going to New York.


GravatarCalifornia is only flat in the, er, flat parts. It's really, really non-flat in the mountainy parts.


GravatarI'm not stupid.

I just disagree.

Is that ok?


Of course it's okay. But why do you think we need to focus on demographics, instead of being Americans who support candidates?

This is how they control us: divide and conquer, convince us that we all have unique needs, and play us against each other. Mayhaps if we refused their framing, we might fight them better and achieve all our interests that much more effectively.

Are hispanics somehow more for war, or more against healthcare than the rest of the folks here? The majority of Americans want to end the war and take the monies to pay for healthcare. That's not a demographic issue. Etc.


GravatarVirgotex, we're  hoping she'll hold off till she's 3 for that


GravatarI like Toronto.
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 8:56 pm | #

"Green acres is the place to be
Farm living is the life for me
Land spreading out,
so far and wide
Keep Manhattan,
just give me that countryside.

New York
is where I'd rather stay
I get allergic smelling hay
I just adore a penthouse view
Darling, I love you,
but give me Park Avenue."


Gravatarwait till she starts ordering wine
virgotex


"Shardenway! No, I want shardenway!"


GravatarI wonder how enthusiastic the telecomms are about Main Core....


GravatarMy bad, Moe, it's Ontario Sucks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R...h? v=RLMkV7VyPns


GravatarThe Bush family dreams all night of fucking America. They discuss their evil plans at breakfast, then they go out and fuck America.


Gravatar"Pretty easy to say when you're not part of the demographic that's being talked about."
--HoneyBearKellyGoGiants



You're damn right. When everyone in this country is treated equally, then I'll agree with NTodd.


GravatarHoney Bear Kelly, with the child we know as NTodd, I am sorry to inform you that it is not okay.


GravatarI like Toronto and I like Ottawa too.  Very much.


GravatarLe Jackel, dear, not just fucking us, but fucking us with a rusty chainsaw.  Sideways.


GravatarI like Toronto and I like Ottawa too. Very much.
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian

I was referring to a song.


GravatarI see people are talking about fucking

all is right with the world


GravatarAuntie GWPDA, for me, it's Montreal


GravatarComment by eine Heidelberre blocked.

You know, if you ask real nice, you can probably get one of the buffet servers to bring out another tray of that peel-and-eat shrimp...


GravatarI wonder if I should go to Ohio and work the election, this year.
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GravatarWell, Ontario is a big place. No doubt some of it sucks. Maybe that bit around Hamilton.


Gravatar

GravatarI like Toronto and I like Ottawa too. Very much.


I need to go back to Canada. Only been once, a few days in Montreal


GravatarAnd, in general, I like Ontario.  The availability of that high plain pretty much saved my soul during my residence in upstate New York.  You can breathe up there.  Not as well as in the Praries, but still...


GravatarUncle Blodge, not if the Bushes are doing the fucking.

How are ya, darling?


GravatarFlorida would be nicer, but I wonder if OH would be the more logical choice.

I think PA is bagged.
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GravatarWhen everyone in this country is treated equally, then I'll agree with NTodd.

Is it about treatment, really? I don't think the political polling is. It's about convincing us that we have differences, and microcontrolling us.

Poverty is not unique to a demographic, nor hunger, nor violence, nor the need to have shelter. Certainly when government and/or society addresses those needs/issues, they might have to come up with solutions that will be weighted toward one community or another, but the problems are universal.

The more we accept the demographic breakdowns that marketers have foisted upon us, the more we accept the consumerism and political divisions that enable the status quo. We might consider rejecting them and addressing electoral politics as progressives, not hispanic progressives, or black progressives, or anything else.


GravatarI like Montreal as well. 


GravatarUncle Blodge, not if the Bushes are doing the fucking.


And we are the Fuckeees


Gravatarpigboy: And we are the Fuckeees

Hey, hey, we're the Fuckees!
And we're comin' to your town!
.


GravatarTrademark dave, sock puppet says what?


GravatarI like Alberta. I like the whole concept of cowboys who say, "giddyup, eh."


Gravatar...all this and more in next month's issue of No Duh magazine.


GravatarBOHICA
Telcoms and Big Media and Oil Bidness Own our sorry asses, they ALWAYS get what they want and we pay for it.


GravatarDon't care much about Lethbridge, however.  Looking forward to Winnipeg.


GravatarHey, hey, we're the Fuckees!
And we're comin' to your town!
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 9:04 pm | #

I hope we're not too busy singing to bring that bastard down..........


GravatarThe highway between Alberta and BC is one gorgeous stretch of road.


Gravatar"How are ya, darling?"

meh

went expecting a war with the ex and she agreed with everything I had to say.

I'm thinking about picking a school in north philadelphia next year. crazy or what?

the phillies are winning

and there's cheese in the refrigerator


GravatarI do want the same things everybody else wants.

I'm pretty sure most Latinos do.

I don't want to be separated into some market research sub topic.

But I'm not the one doing that.
And as long as somebody is doing it to me I'm going to speak on it.


GravatarAlberta is breathtaking, top to bottom, side to side. 


GravatarSome of the telecoms could have contracts hosting main core.

http://www.radaronline.com/from-...re_01- print.php


GravatarOntario most definitly does not suck. I think maybe it is you that sucks. I mean if you axt me of course.


Gravatarhighway between Alberta and BC is one gorgeous stretch of road.
trifecta


that would be a very short stretch of highway.


GravatarAlberta doesn't suck. But Calgary does.


Gravatar
But I'm not the one doing that.
And as long as somebody is doing it to me I'm going to speak on it.


But you are repeating it, which is a form of support. Just saying that perhaps we here might stop reinforcing the market research. Part of the problem is tacit consent to the current system...


Gravatar"Is it about treatment, really? I don't think the political polling is. It's about convincing us that we have differences, and microcontrolling us."

oh man...

if the working class ever realized that their interests and the interests of african americans were so similar, the changes we'd see.


GravatarCurly is a much beter photographic subject than I am. Duh!
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GravatarNTodd, I understand with what you are saying, I just don't think we are there yet.


GravatarHonestly, to my mind allowing this administration not to publish the M3 report is beyond comprehension. Why isn't there a hue and cry in Congress and every editorial page?


GravatarThey had a ruby Tuesday in Calgary. I was happy. I made fun of Edmonton fans about Gretzky playing for the Kings on an Edmonton radio show. It was an excellent trip. Oh and Banff has A LOT of Japanese tourists, or did back then.


GravatarAli, Calgary also does not suck. I think it is you who sucks.


Gravatarhttp://www.jedreport.com/2008/08...ng-the- rec.html

Mr. Celebrity: John McCain's Star Turn in the Wedding Crashers.

hahaha!! Pass the sweet and sour shrimp!


Gravatar"I understand with what you are saying, I just don't think we are there yet."

I think he's saying be the change you wish to see in the world.


Gravatar
that would be a very short stretch of highway.


Highway 3?  Long enough.  Lotta switchbacks.  Calgary's a funny old town - centre of it is still nice.  But I was floored the last time I was up - damned town has quadrupled outward, so much so that little towns an hour south are now being claimed as within Calgary.  Ridiculous.  Still, you gotta love a town that has a main river - The Bow - and its tributary - The Elbow. 

It's as funny as Calgarians ever get.



GravatarOops I should have said that it was up i the left corner of the screen.


Gravatarif the working class ever realized that their interests and the interests of african americans were so similar, the changes we'd see.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher


[I assume you meant white working class or somesuch]

At the very beginning of this Republic, the owners of the country were alarmed that black and white workers were coming together for common economic cause. A variety of tactics ensued that continue to this day to divide. 'Twas ever mission accomplished.


GravatarNTodd, I understand with what you are saying, I just don't think we are there yet.

Where, yet? At the point where we as a community can stop accepting the frame? Where does the resistance and change begin?

It is interesting, though, that somehow I couldn't weigh in as a person of a particular demographic, saying I don't like the focus on demographic politics...


Gravatarwell, I've never been to canada

but I've been to manayunk

oh they tell me I was born there

but what the fuck do they know?


GravatarThe one thang which no one can dispute about the McCain't campaign.
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GravatarAlberta is breathtaking, top to bottom, side to side.
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian | 08.02.08 - 9:06 pm | #


So is BC and Vancouver Island http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fra...i/ Fraser_Canyon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Van...ancouver_island


GravatarGWPDA, trifecta referred to the "highway between Alberta and BC". That would be a very short stretch of highway, I was having a little fun with it.


GravatarThe reason I was happy about a Ruby Tuesday in Calgary was that I got a burger just north of Idaho for $6.50 canadian that was so gross I wanted to cry. It was a gray piece of meat on a burger with a little mustard smeared on it.


GravatarIt's a tricky question: When does empowerment become estrangement?


Gravatar[I assume you meant white working class or somesuch]

I did.

"A variety of tactics ensued that continue to this day to divide. 'Twas ever mission accomplished."

well documented in a book called "how the irish became white"

I highly recommend it.


Gravatartrifecta: The reason I was happy about a Ruby Tuesday in Calgary was that I got a burger just north of Idaho for $6.50 canadian that was so gross I wanted to cry. It was a gray piece of meat on a burger with a little mustard smeared on it.

No Fat Mo's?
I Won't Go!™
.


GravatarI got a burger just north of Idaho for $6.50 canadian that was so gross
I wanted to cry. It was a gray piece of meat on a burger with a little
mustard smeared on it.


And this saddens me, trifecta, because from the location you describe you were THIS close to Yahk, home of the best damned Alberta beef hamburgers you'll ever have. 


GravatarNo Fat Mo's?
I Won't Go!™
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Jeffraham Prestonian


There's something called "Fatburger" in Vancouver. I haven't ventured in.


GravatarI read "How the Irish Became White."

I was initially amused by the title, seeing as we're some of the palest people on the planet, but it was really a fascinating and insightful read.


GravatarTrifecta, Fatburger is a chain.  Do NOT go there.  Your digestive tract will thank you.


GravatarI think he's saying be the change you wish to see in the world.

Mahatma, is that you? Fucknozzle.


GravatarAnd, altho Hy's closed the Calgary store, you can always go to one of the other ones in the West.  (Hy and his wife lived upstairs from us in Calgary - they took inspiration for the steakhouse from a visit to Vegas, land of real steakhouses.)  http://www.hyssteakhouse.com/hys...tler- menus.html


GravatarAli: There's something called "Fatburger" in Vancouver. I haven't ventured in.

Fat Mo's is a chain in Nashville, started more than 20 years ago by an Iranian immigrant. His friends and family still operate all the locations, AIUI.

I do not know what they do to those burgers, and may not wanna know. They are absolute perfection.
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GravatarI read "How the Irish Became White."

I was initially amused by the title, seeing as we're some of the palest people on the planet, but it was really a fascinating and insightful read.

Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere


Ah...The good old days.


GravatarWhy is this moron linking to a two year old blog posting by another moron?


GravatarAuntie, it was right across the border. It was allegedly a German restaurant. Don't know if you know the place.


GravatarBut on Victoria Island, don't let a woman talk you into high tee. Man, 150 dollars for a cup of tee, not coffee, and some mini sandwichs without real food in them. The best one I had was cucumber for God's sake. Seriously, don't let her talk you into it. I is not worth it. Go to the garden instead. That is something. You can get a hotdog or something.


GravatarFat Mo's!
.


Gravatar"Mahatma, is that you? Fucknozzle."

nah shithead it's the ghetto teacher.

telling you that all you are saying is give peace a chance.

and that we shall overcome!!


GravatarI do not know what they do to those burgers, and may not wanna know. They are absolute perfection.
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Jeffraham Prestonian


I think it's time I got started on dinner here! thanks for getting my hunger pangs going.


GravatarDude, the thing is I have to publish a quarterly every three months justifying my activities. And it has to be clean and pristine. It has to be immaculate. I debate the freshness and the point size of the font. Serious, 12 point Arial bold with shadowing balanced by 12.5 point Times New Roman text. Dude, why can't the Bush administration come up with the M3 report.


GravatarI think he's saying be the change you wish to see in the world.

BECOME the lightsaber....

unlearn everything you must....


GravatarThose fries look delish too, Jeffraham.


GravatarI always thought In and Out Burger was a sexual euphemism.


GravatarIt's a tricky question: When does empowerment become estrangement?

If you accept empowerment as an individual thing, then it's less tricky. I have power as a person. Sure, I can identify with my family, my girlfriend, my Pack, my town, my race, my religion, my nation, my whatever. But I am empowered to act as a moral agent.

That will definitely estrange me from some people who don't want me to act. But that's generally an interpersonal thing, not really based on a particular demographic.

What if the larger society says that it's okay to engage in slavery? Racism? Sexism? Should the empowered individual conform? That's an individual choice, of course.

So here we are, accepting the media and polling firms' frame, that there are specific groups of people that Obama somehow needs to court, with specifically tailored words, and if he misses one (hey, he didn't mention Latinos in his Berlin speech!), he can be excoriated. Perhaps we should work to destroy THAT tendency as part of our efforts to get him elected.

That said, I do understand that no matter what I say there are some folks here who will reject it because of how they feel about me. That's not a demographic thing. That's an interpersonal thing, too. Ah, well...


GravatarThat will definitely estrange me from some people who don't want me to act.

Nah its the Browns thing.


GravatarAli: Those fries look delish too, Jeffraham.

They're the only fries in town I feel compelled to finish. And with Hunt's ketchup? Magnifique!
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GravatarMahatma, is that you? Fucknozzle.
NTodd, Counterproductive


You made me think of Mr. Show's "Jack Webber", where he punches out the Dalai Lama.


GravatarNon Sequitur

http://www.mycomicspage.com/nonsequitur


GravatarIts timing with me.

I'll protest as long I got bail money and can get out to do my bankruptcy hearings.


GravatarNTodd, I don't think it's just the marketers in this case. It's the employers, the police, the way people are treated in stores and banks. Maybe they think Obama will actually try to make things fairer. I hope so.


GravatarI finally understand!

NTodd believes that societies are formed by individuals. He is mistaken. Individuals are formed by society -- the group comes first -- relationship creates individuals -- Descartes was before the horse (I know it is tiresome to blame Descartes for everything, but sometimes it is true).


Gravatar"there are some folks here who will reject it because of how they feel about me."

hey people can like you and still think you're full of shit, you know


GravatarI always thought In and Out Burger was a sexual euphemism.
Gomez


Iowa has a chain of convenience stores call Kum & Go.


GravatarNah its the Browns thing.

I can change. I can root for the Bungles.


GravatarNTodd believes that societies are formed by individuals. He is mistaken. Individuals are formed by society -- the group comes first -- relationship creates individuals

I'd say it goes both ways, nature vs nurture. And an individual still has a moral agency independent of that society, which is why we can engage in antithesis and eventually synthesis (Hegel, I presume?).


GravatarI can change. I can root for the Bungles.
NTodd, Counterproductive


Yeah, but you'd have to root for the Bungles to do that.


GravatarGomez,

How 'bout dinner at In and Out Burger?


GravatarNTodd -- I know that's what you would say -- that's why I said you were wrong -- I'm not arguing with you -- I'm disagreeing with you.


Gravatarin re the Prior, more Marx than Hegel.


GravatarI think protest is going to be necessary to keep Obama honest.


GravatarDammit. I want a Fat Mo's. I just don't wanna fork out nearly $7 for dinner!
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GravatarIndividuals are formed by society -- the group comes first -- relationship creates individuals

That explains gay Muslims, and black Republicans.


GravatarDrive-by blogwhore:

236.com is making a new animated webcast based on Get Your War On! Check out the first episode at Slow Roasted!
~


Gravatar nature vs nurture.

This is how I view it, too. And nurture creates nature and natural states of existence, as well.

All my life's a circle...


GravatarHow 'bout dinner at In and Out Burger?
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


*SPROING*


GravatarRene Descartes was a drunken fart.


GravatarI prefer to call it "naurture."


GravatarAnd nurture creates nature and natural states of existence, as well.



I see it exactly the other way around. Nature creates nurture.


GravatarAll my life's a circle...
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


Mine's more of a tetrahedron.


GravatarAs someone who worked hard with the Head Start program, I think good intentions are overrated -- by pre-school it is already to late. Free Will is an illusion, but it is one we cherish (& gives us hope -- which keeps us all from committing suicide) -- so, how was everyone else's day?


Gravatar"
Mine's more of a tetrahedron."

I'm a rhombus!!


GravatarI see it exactly the other way around. Nature creates nurture.


As I said, I see it as a circle. I think it works both ways.


GravatarPerhaps the nature v nurture argument is endless.


GravatarNTodd -- I know that's what you would say -- that's why I said you were wrong -- I'm not arguing with you -- I'm disagreeing with you.

I'm disagreeing back. If individuals are only formed by society, then there'd never be revolution, let alone individual rebellion. People can see that their society lacks something and try to effect change. Sure, they're going against said society, but they clearly can be exposed to ideas from outside that society and even come up with ideas of their own, unless you subscribe solely to an Humean notion of where ideas come from...


GravatarFree will is an illusion.


GravatarPrior Aelred -- Didn't Susan Gray have something to do with starting Head Start?
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GravatarI don't which came first, the chicken or the egg, but there was whole lot of clucking.


GravatarFree will is an illusion.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


Resistance is futile.


Gravatar"Saturday, August 02, 2008
Only black reporter kicked out of McCain event for no reason
John Aravosis (DC) ·

But race had nothing to do with it, McCain's staff assures us. Really. Some of McCain's best reporters are black. Well, no they're not. The only black one just got asked to leave. And lots of other white reporters were in the same "restricted" zone but they weren't asked to leave. Only the black one. Well that's not really true. When a white reporter asked why the black reporter was being asked to leave, they kicked her out too. Nice."

http://www.americablog.com/2008/...ked-out- of.html


Gravatarto an Humean notion of where ideas come from...
NTodd, Counterproductive | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 9:32 pm | #


Don't cha just hate that Humean guy.


GravatarIt's nice to be able to nurture, but you've got to have the means. Many in this country are not able to anymore.


GravatarNTodd -- revolutionaries are part of the normal distribution of personality types -- just like the fixed % of people who will always be dissatisfied no matter what the situation -- stay away from statisticians - you will lose faith in the revolution.


GravatarFree will is an illusion.

You had to say that.


GravatarI don't which came first, the chicken or the egg, but there was whole lot of clucking.
Uncle Smokes


Kill them all and let God sort out the breakfast.


Gravatar"I don't which came first, the chicken or the egg, but there was whole lot of clucking."

http://www.snorgtees.com/ thechic...114107561d822e6


GravatarFree will is a pinwheel.
Blow on it, and see.
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GravatarGee Dubya.


GravatarIf individuals are only formed by society, then there'd never be revolution, let alone individual rebellion. People can see that their society lacks something and try to effect change.

Read Tolstoy's second epilogue to War and Peace.


GravatarPerhaps the nature v nurture argument is endless.
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 9:32 pm | #

maybe it hasn't even really gotten started yet.


GravatarOh no, you musn't disagree with NTodd. He may throw a tantrum, or something. It won't be pretty. Don't you know that NTodd is the very best of Eschaton, and the whole world for all I know? What a fine young lad.


GravatarAs I said, I see it as a circle. I think it works both ways.


I agree, it's a feedback mechanism, a circle.

But it all starts with DNA.




And I agree, no such thing as free will.


GravatarThe piccolo player's a motherfucker.


GravatarKill them all and let God sort out the breakfast.
Gomez


It's a barnyard reunion!


GravatarGood evening.

Just got done watching "The Giant Spider Invasion". I'm suddenly thirsty for a Leinie's.


Gravatareine Heidelberre | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 9:36 pm | #

stupid. it is actually common to tell Ntodd he is full of it.


GravatarDunno who started Head Start, but I know there weren't very white people working there & even fewer males -- when I went to a major workshop for Southwestern Ohio, the number of white males participating were two (& I don't know who the other guy was).

American society (especially then) indicated the value it placed on things by the number of white males involved -- Head Start was a sop to the bleeding hearts & my heart still breaks when I think about how hard we worked to accomplish so little -- Uncle Blodge still around?


Gravatar"Uncle Blodge still around?"

he is


GravatarRead Tolstoy's second epilogue to War and Peace.

I can't even get through the forward written by the 6th Dalai Lama.


GravatarAt this point I am a bit lost, NTodd.

Do you object to framing itself, or accepting the framing from others?


GravatarPrior -- I used to work on their website; that's why I asked.
.


GravatarI can't believe that mimi couldn't stay away from here. Shit...even Castro stopped coming by after awhile.


GravatarMany in this country are not able to anymore.
mer


mer, I worked Kids Day at the Zoo yesterday. It's great exposure.

The number one question we encountered was:

Do you guys take Priority Health Medicaid?

There is not a single doctor's practice in this region that is open to ANY Medicaid right now, including the group for whom I work. We still have some family prac/internists who do accept Medicaid. But we're few and far between.

Very telling. It's in my report to the execs.

I work for a GREAT corp. I love my job. Our docs take plenty of Medicaid patients. But some practices are full to the point that they can't take any more patients.

We, as a nation, are almost at the point where single payor will become the reality out of necessity.


GravatarWhen it comes down to it, I don't give a shit whether there's free will or not, or if it's nature or nurture. It's all rather an adolescent argument, and completely beside the point of living in the real world.


GravatarPlus there's a whole section about how I fucked around with a bunch of atriots. Personally, I think I came close to screwing mimi.


GravatarHey, wasn't this supposed to be the vaginaey thread, since the previous one was so prickish?


Gravatarstupid. it is actually common to tell Ntodd he is full of it.

It's quite the popular sport, in fact!

It's also quite popular to think that when *I* disagree, that somehow I'm not allowing people to disagree with me. I find that intriguing...


GravatarUncle Blodge -- it was just that feeling of simultaneous hope & helplessness when working with the kids -- I got 'em long before they got to you & i was feeling like it was already too late -- I was the closest thing to a father most of those kids & sharing some guy with a roomful of other kids for half a day is no father (not that a lesbian couple can't raise children ... I'll come in again ...)


GravatarOK -- bats -- for me it is late & so good night!


GravatarNTodd and I can disagree and we don't tell each other to go fuck ourselves. I find that admirable. Matter of fact I like NTodd very much.


GravatarOh, yeah baby, it turns me on when you're being so cold and distant.


GravatarThere should have been a comma in there.
Damn Simels.


GravatarNTodd and I can disagree and we don't tell each other to go fuck ourselves. I find that admirable. Matter of fact I like NTodd very much.
mer


How gaii.


GravatarDo you object to framing itself, or accepting the framing from others?

Both. My original point was that I don't like how we all talk of the demographic polling. "They" pushed that on us, and we continue to parrot it instead of saying, "stop this nonsense, we're Americans and the majority want out of Iraq..."

Everything else is trickery to get Obama et al to say an introduction in Spanish when speaking to the Germans or whatever. Fundamentally, it was a bit of a throw away comment indicating some discomfort I have with the notion that we must needs be divided by the artifice of race in a national race (ahem), and I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition...


Gravatarsimels is commatose


GravatarI agree with what NTodd said. I am afraid to disagree with him to be honest.


GravatarNow uncle, may I call you uncle, when did you call out our NTodd? I thought only Simels ever did that. And Simels was always wrong. This is our very fine boy we are talking about. I mean, the young man waves a dildo around in public for goodness sake. And to this day he is proud of it. Let's allow him to grow up. He's a cute kid.


Gravatarmer is what's wrong with this country. And Moe is what's wrong with Canada.


GravatarDisgusting show on MSNBC: a homosexual in prison is talking about how he's in trouble again and how this happens regularly, in fact it seems to happen trhe same time every year. After a while it becomes clear he is talking about blowing a guy and getting caught (while ostensible watching religious tapes). He isn't allowed to blow people in prison and get caught. For sixty days he has what little activities and possessions he is already allowed taken away. At the point where we changed the channel he says "given what I am this will probably happen again." Prison's in Iowa by the way, we're sure that isn't playing a role.
How stupid and evil is this?


Gravatarsimels is commatose
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ | 08.02.08 - 9:46 pm | #


Yet again.


Gravatarsimels is commatose

But, only periodically.


GravatarBREAKING: BIG BEN HAS A SORE GROIN.


Gravatartrifect speaks for me.


GravatarNTodd gets the comfy chair!


GravatarNTodd's got too much facial hair.


GravatarIt's also quite popular to think that when *I* disagree, that somehow I'm not allowing people to disagree with me. I find that intriguing...


I have that same disease. And then I am scolded for being pompous, because I have an opinion that differs from his or hers.

I find that as intriguing as Borscht, since I'm about the most open to ideas mother sucker on the planet.

Christ almighty, in order to make it in PR, you have to be willing to observe and listen to all sides. In the work world, I am very careful about my judgment, and in the real world, I spend almost too much time weighing things carefully before making a decision to made a decision, or not.


Gravatar"I was the closest thing to a father most of those kids & sharing some guy with a roomful of other kids for half a day is no father"

I had a student in summer school who had issues.

he accidentally shot and killed his brother - and was still in legal trouble over it (his mom said it was going to be ok but...)

he was kind of crazy. don't ask how I managed to get him to work enough to pass but i did - and part of it was by telling him he was too going to get his ass to school and do the goddamn work.

I don't know what effect 3 weeks will have but hopefully someone later will be able to reach the kid.

was it too late? I don't know - and I probably never will know.


GravatarNOT THE COMFY CHAIR!


GravatarWake up dude, or NTodd will stick his enormous dick in your mouth.


Gravatarhe was kind of crazy. don't ask how I managed to get him to work enough to pass but i did - and part of it was by telling him he was too going to get his ass to school and do the goddamn work.



Zapette's a school social worker here in St. Paul. The stories I hear...(if I could repeat them)


GravatarPlease oh please oh please, let Eric Cantor be John McCain's veep pick. Cantor is dumber than two bags of hammers.


Gravatar69, if you say so.


Gravatar"mer is what's wrong with this country. And Moe is what's wrong with Canada."
--NTodd,

Fuck you.


GravatarDid Art Monk cure cancer or sumtin?


Gravatar...(if I could repeat them)


Compliance loves you, Zap!

Seriously.


Gravatar150 dollars for a cup of tee, not coffee, and some mini sandwichs without real food in them. The best one I had was cucumber for God's sake. Seriously, don't let her talk you into it. I is not worth it. Go to the garden instead. That is something. You can get a hotdog or something.
eine Heidelberre | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 9:18 pm | #

Guess who the idiot is tonight. the moron who paid $150 for a cup of tea...oops, tee. I see that the stuoid medal has been passed on to eine mo.


GravatarI'd like to see the Presidential candidates engage in a series of Lincoln-Douglas style debates.


GravatarHey all. I just found out that Cindy McCain's middle name is Lou.

CIndy Lou.

Cindy Lou Who. In Whoville.

That's too freaking weird.


GravatarAnd Moe is what's wrong with Canada.

The Manitoba Denogginizer described as "friendly" and "reliable." Canada is apparently full of these people


GravatarFundamentally, it was a bit of a throw away comment indicating some discomfort I have with the notion that we must needs be divided by the artifice of race in a national race (ahem), and I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition...

You're right.
I should know better.

Couldn't help myself.


Gravatareine Heidelberre | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 9:46 pm | #

a lot of people call out Ntodd. he answers back and sometimes that leads to an argument. However, he does not take himself all that seriously that you can't tell him to fuck off.


GravatarKewl...I put the Pandora music app on my iPod. The punk/new wave station is fun. Haven't heard the U.K. Subs in eons.


GravatarDid you see this?

McCain Mocked Idea of Obama on US Currency...in JUNE

All you need to know.


GravatarThere is not a single doctor's practice in this region that is open to ANY Medicaid right now, including the group for whom I work. We still have some family prac/internists who do accept Medicaid. But we're few and far between. - Vicki

The latest follies in CA
---
California's Medi-Cal program, which funds health care for 6.6 million low-income people, is being hit with a double whammy.

Starting next week, Medi-Cal payments will cease for about 4,700 hospitals, clinics, adult day care centers, convalescent homes and other institutions until the state's budget deadlock ends.

And last month, a 10 percent fee cut took effect for the large network of doctors, pharmacists, dentists and other health care professionals who serve Medi-Cal patients around the state. The cut is expected to save $610 million a year for Medi-Cal, the state's second largest program covered by the general fund.
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Essentially, this is the handiwork of 10 'Thuglicans in the State Senate who are blocking the budget from passing. (2/3 majority in both Houses required).

I would guess that if WGG were a resident of this state, he would have plenty to say about 'Thuglican State Senators and the appropriatness of their acquiring personalized DSHs. This is, of course, only conjecture on my part, but in this circumstance it would be entirely irresponsible not to speculate.


GravatarYep, every other motherfucker is friendly and reliable.


GravatarI'm not really Canadian. Or so I've been told.


GravatarB-b-b-b-b-but!

You could hear


GravatarHowever, he does not take himself all that seriously that you can't tell him to fuck off.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher | 08.02.08 - 9:51 pm | #

unlike eine, who is an idiot, and worried about a dildo.


GravatarB-b-b-b-b-but!

You could hear Rickie Lee Jones, instead!
.


Gravatar"unlike eine, who is an idiot, and worried about a dildo."

I don't think I've ever been worried about a dildo


GravatarYou're right.
I should know better.

Couldn't help myself.


Not entirely sure what that means, but I sure hope you're still thinking of coming to Portland so I can buy you a drink.


GravatarHowever, he does not take himself all that seriously that you can't tell him to fuck off.

Indeed. Both Zapette and I told him to fuck off after him and E bought us a fancy dinner. And he loved it!!


GravatarI think protest is going to be necessary to keep Obama honest.
Gomez

wouldn't be prudent


GravatarGromit, I should have said "pediatricians." That's what I meant, but I am still too pissed about the state of affairs to type it all out.


GravatarBut it all starts with DNA.

er, no, it "all" doesn't.


GravatarI think protest is going to be necessary to keep Obama honest.
Gomez

well, nothing we can do will make or keep McCain't honest. What a shit.


GravatarUncle Blodge: I don't think I've ever been worried about a dildo


GravatarI can't tag worth a fuck, tonight.

Uncle Blodge: I don't think I've ever been worried about a dildo

There's nothing like the drama that ensues when girlfriend's college-aged daughter comes in and finds a clean dildo in the dishwasher. Trust me.
.


GravatarWe still don't really know those anthrax attacks didn't originate from somewhere in the Islamic world.


GravatarI didn't realize that Julie Nunes has a black-tip.


GravatarUncle Blodge: I don't think I've ever been worried about a dildo
Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 9:56 pm | #


What about a slantie dildo, eh?


GravatarCalifornia, now reaping what Howard Jarvis sowed all these many years ago.




GravatarIndeed. Both Zapette and I told him to fuck off after him and E bought us a fancy dinner. And he loved it!!

One of my favorite things is when ProfWombat calls me a fucknozzle.


GravatarWe still don't really know those anthrax attacks didn't originate from somewhere in the Islamic world.

Who's "we"? You and your moron friends? Or...


GravatarNTodd's been a great friend to me. I met him in 2005, and he's always been wonderful.

And we have had our disagreements. Several, in fact. But he's never called me a name or told me I'm stupid. He's always been kind and respectful. Not too sound too Summer's Evey, but he's never been a douche to me.

VIVA, Le NTodd!


GravatarI am amazed at the republican ability to find the lowest, scummiest piece of white trash available to run for office. McCain is a bigger coward than Bush, and a bigger moron than Romney, and a lamer old shit than Thompson, and more despicable than Giuliani. It's really disgusting.


Gravatarhi honeybear...

i see that i missed you earlier.


GravatarNTodd don't know about Portland.

My boss' job rescue plan is for me to move over to the NRA tax area.

I can't think of anything more fucking boring.

I'll make up my mind on Monday.


Gravatarbo | 08.02.08 - 9:52 pm | #

Makes me think doctors will demand national health care fairly soon, since no one will be able to pay for their services unless it happens.


GravatarHey ladies!

Just thought you'd like to know that men are better at making music than you are, because they have more testosterone, which means they make lots and lots of sperm, which is why you tend to sit so close to the front row when you attend classical concerts, ya goddamn whores.


GravatarIt's those freaky armadillos I'se afraid of.


Gravatar"There's nothing like the drama that ensues when girlfriend's college-aged daughter comes in and finds a clean dildo in the dishwasher. Trust me."

ok...

I'm sure that was interesting.

ex gf told me her son bought the explication that her vibrator was a muscle massager.

at least she hopes he did


GravatarGary Glitter to be released from Vietnamese prison later this month, says he feels like a kid again


GravatarCalifornia, now reaping what Howard Jarvis sowed all these many years ago.


Do you realize how old that makes me feel, understanding your reference?

Thanks, Chris. Thanks, a lot.


GravatarShit...Portland's coming up soon, isn't it?

Sorry, can't make it.


Gravatarhi fokowi...

I probably do that a lot as well.

You're a sweetie.


GravatarI don't think I've ever been worried about a dildo - Uncle Blodge

The ones in the White House for the last eight years disturb me greatly, as does having an asshat for Governor.


GravatarLe Jackel, keep on groving my friend. You are spot on.

Ronjazz, It's clear that Simels is giving you your lines. Well you are a sock puppet. But I think you should ask him for better lines. He has been giving the same lines for, like forever.

Uncle, I think you are not thinking clearly. Didn't you hear NTodd's reply to you. Please answer the young man's question.


GravatarNYT:

WASHINGTON — Until the anthrax attacks of 2001, Bruce E. Ivins was one of just a few dozen American bioterrorism researchers working with the most lethal biological pathogens, almost all at high-security military laboratories.

Today, there are hundreds of such researchers in scores of laboratories at universities and other institutions around the United States, preparing for the next bioattack.

But the revelation that F.B.I. investigators believe that the anthrax attacks were carried out by Dr. Ivins, an Army biodefense scientist who committed suicide last week after he learned that he was about to be indicted for murder, has already re-ignited a debate: Has the unprecedented boom in biodefense research made the country less secure by multiplying the places and people with access to dangerous germs?


GravatarWe still don't really know those anthrax attacks didn't originate from somewhere in the Islamic world.

Except for the crude death threats written by someone who assumed that Arabs can't spell or speak in complete sentences, and the fact that the letters targeted "liberals," who are supposedly on the side of Islamofascism, and the fact that the anthrax was a domestic strain, you're might be right...except that there's no evidence at all for your nonsense.


GravatarGary Glitter to be released from Vietnamese prison later this month, says he feels like a kid again

Too soon.


GravatarI can't think of anything more fucking boring.

Tell your boss to fuck off!


Gravatar"There's nothing like the drama that ensues when girlfriend's college-aged daughter comes in and finds a clean dildo in the dishwasher. Trust me."


Are we talking about Steely Dan again?


GravatarThe trolls have been rather obsessed with accusing people of being Simels's sock puppets of late. Boring.

Wonder what Janet is up to tonight?


GravatarHas the unprecedented boom in biodefense research made the country less secure by multiplying the places and people with access to dangerous germs?
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 10:03 pm | #


Gee, that's a tough one. Gonna have to put on my thinking cap.


GravatarHappy to be of service, Vicki!

Some like minded Libertarian morons (Ah, but I repeat myself) somehow got a ballot initiative on the state ballot to repeal the state income tax here in Massachusetts.

And where's the Invisible Hand of the Free Market when you libertarian assholes are snowed in for a week because there's no money anywhere to plow the sodding roads after a blizzard?

Why, the Invisible Hand is giving you the finger for being such a fucking schmuck!


GravatarNTodd is wrong. 


Gravatar"My boss' job rescue plan is for me to move over to the NRA tax area.

I can't think of anything more fucking boring.

I'll make up my mind on Monday."
--HoneyBearKellyGoGiants

Wouldn't you consider it? At least it give you time to start looking for another job, and still be being paid. I wish you well, whatever.


GravatarThanks Eine!


GravatarHappy birthday dude.


GravatarShit...Portland's coming up soon, isn't it?

Sorry, can't make it.


Zap is what's wrong with America. And the entire world.


GravatarDeacon Blues: Are we talking about Steely Dan again?

"Fleshy Pete" I think was her moniker for it.


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Gravatarer, no, it "all" doesn't.


Er, until we can pull human beings out of thin air it does indeed.


GravatarJust thought you'd like to know that men are better at making music than you are...
Phila, Pizen Sarpin


Hmmmm...the researcher is kinda cute.


GravatarNTodd is wrong.

And a bastard.


GravatarAnonymous moron is right! Arabs went through all the trouble of obtaining US Army weaponized anthrax and then sent it by *mail* (note to terrorists: this is a really great technique if you want to endanger non-targets, fail altogether as the post office loses or mismails your stuff, or get caught. Go team!) because that was the fastest and most convenient way to spread fear!


GravatarUncle, I think you are not thinking clearly. Didn't you hear NTodd's reply to you. Please answer the young man's question.
eine Heidelberre | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 10:03 pm | #

Thanks for proving my point, asswipe. You are an idiot. Simels is a gentleman compared to me, and I need no help to deliver the truth about a fuckwitted wingnut moron like you, sockpuppet butler. Your shit is old, we've seen it before in several guises, and it sucks now as it sucked then, but that's to be expected from someone with a room-temperature IQ like yours. You can't tell a real Atriot from your own fevered imaginings because you don't have the brains dog gave a walnut.


GravatarThanks Eine!
Le Jackel | 08.02.08 - 10:05 pm | #


Heh.


GravatarNTodd; Zap is what's wrong with America. And the entire world.

I have often thought this. I will hang this over I-40 on a bedsheet, tomorrow. And I won't pay taxes on it, either.
.


GravatarNTodd is wrong.

And a bastard.


Like I've never heard any of this before.


Gravatarmer you're a sweetie too.

Alas, things should be winding up pretty soon and I do have to make up my mind.

I might just do that though.
It will give me a few months to look somewhere else.


GravatarZap is what's wrong with America. And the entire world.

That's deep.

/takes sip of cocktail

Fuck yeah! Hoyt Axton just came on!


GravatarHmmmm...the researcher is kinda cute.
Uncle Smokes | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 10:06 pm | #


And clever!

Ovulatory cycle effects on tip earnings by lap-dancers: Economic evidence for human estrus?


GravatarEr, until we can pull human beings out of thin air it does indeed.
hmmmmmm


Certainly the broad outlines of what humans can do is determined by limits placed on them by their biology (people can't fly). What they actually do, however, is a different story (people build airplanes, despite the absence of an airplane building gene).


Gravatar"Fleshy Pete" I think was her moniker for it.


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Jeffraham Prestonian


Not a bad band name for a Steely Dan tribute band ... Pretzel Logic were playing last night at the local.


GravatarIs Eine Heidelbeere new to English?


GravatarThanks Eine!
Le Jackel | 08.02.08 - 10:05 pm | #

Heh.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 10:07 pm | #

Little Sat. nite reach-around action. Might be the pudly one, he likes the boyz.


GravatarNTodd was right about the Kent State shooting, Simelsly was wrong.


GravatarI'm taking up a collection to send Butler or Toby or Luby or
eine Heidelberre on a cross country bus trip in Canada.

PayPal preferred!


GravatarI have often thought this. I will hang this over I-40 on a bedsheet, tomorrow. And I won't pay taxes on it, either.

For some reason, I was instantly reminded of the episode of The Simpsons when GHW Bush moves in across the street and hangs that banner that says "Two Bad Neighbors".

Then again, I don't do much but watch The Simpsons, so there's that...


Gravatar"Like I've never heard any of this before."

Ok well, you're also a chickenshit cocksucker.

someone claims you asked me a question I think - do you remember what it was?


GravatarWe still don't know if the Lindbergh baby was abducted by aliens.

We still don't know if Sasquatch set fire to the Reichstag.

We still don't know if the Loch Ness Monster didn't have a rifle in the storm drain under Dealey Plaza.

[I could go on like this all night.]


GravatarThe cut in MediCal will predictably result in people being sicker and needing more institutionalization, stress out the free-care pool and, in general, probably cost the system a fair amount of money. In addition, of course, to being reprehensible.


GravatarDeacon Blues: Not a bad band name for a Steely Dan tribute band ... Pretzel Logic were playing last night at the local.

I got to see The Dan... summer of 2003, right after I left the Big Bad Wolf.

I saw 'em in Columbus, OH. July or August, I reckon.
.


Gravatar[I could go on like this all night.]

I suggest you do!


GravatarHmmmm...the researcher is kinda cute.
Uncle Smokes | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 10:06 pm | #

And clever!

Ovulatory cycle effects on tip earnings by lap-dancers: Economic evidence for human estrus?
Phila, Pizen Sarpint


What do you bet he's really awkward on dates?


GravatarIn addition, of course, to being reprehensible.
ProfWombat | 08.02.08 - 10:11 pm | #

i think that word should be reserved for mcCain, or any other GOP pol.


GravatarThe Black Dahlia: Kidnapped...

OR ABDUCTED???


Gravatarheh

billy wagner just blew a save for the mets.

couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.


Gravatar[I could go on like this all night.]
Uncle Smokes

Uhm.... let's not and say we did


GravatarYou die now!

Are you scared?

Allah is great!


GravatarI forgot how much I like the flanger. Some 'Mats song just came on that uses it.


GravatarThen who was actually responsible for the anthrax attacks?


GravatarI dedicate track 9 to NTodd.
.


GravatarJeffraham Prestonian
Mrs. Blues and I see the boys in only 49 hours from now ...


GravatarOops, namestealing again. Don't think they understand html.


GravatarI'm going to bed and read now.  You're all wrong, you don't know what to eat or when, you can't cook and none of you know what kind of a career will get you lifelong happiness and cute companions.

And, you're insufficiently concerned about Satchmo TBogg.




GravatarThen who was actually responsible for the anthrax attacks?

Ultimately, I have little doubt it was anyone other than Richard B. Cheney.
.


GravatarOh Simelsly, I hit a nerve. You are coming undone. I hope that you are not drinking. You know what thoughts enter your head when you drink too much.


GravatarWe still don't know if the Loch Ness Monster didn't have a rifle in the storm drain under Dealey Plaza.

Nor do we know if Elvis Presley fired the missile that hit the Pentagon.


GravatarThen who was actually responsible for the anthrax attacks?

Eric Idle.


GravatarJonathan Alter:
Where Have You Gone, John?

In the middle of John McCain's dopey Britney & Paris attack ad, the announcer gravely asks of Barack Obama: "Is He Ready to Lead?" An equally good question is whether McCain is ready to lead. For a man who will turn 72 this month, he's a surprisingly immature politician—erratic, impulsive and subject to peer pressure from the last knucklehead who offers him advice. The youthful insouciance that for many years has helped McCain charm reporters like me is now channeled into an ad that one GOP strategist labeled "juvenile," another termed "childish" and McCain's own mother called "stupid." The Obama campaign's new mantra is that McCain is "an honorable man running a dishonorable campaign." Lame is more like it. And out of sync with the real guy".

So true, but I disagree that last sentence it's "out of sync with the real guy - this is the real "straight talker"!

John McCain hasn't been a "maverick" since he was trying to woo Dems and Independents in 2000!

This is the true John McCain.

and Alter says this:

That's because McCain is patently insincere when his heart's not in it, like a little boy who eats his peas when his parents tell him to but remains transparently unhappy about the experience. It's not clear how committed McCain himself is to this latest assault on Obama. Does he genuinely believe that Obama is an out-of-control egomaniac who thinks he's Moses? McCain no doubt comforts himself that the ad making that argument—an argument that is beneath a major-party candidate for president—was not part of a big media buy but just chum thrown to the media piranhas via the Drudge Report.

He'll do anything - say anything to get elected, Jon!


GravatarEvening, celebrities!


GravatarGWPDA: I'm going to bed and read now. You're all wrong, you don't know what to eat or when, you can't cook and none of you know what kind of a career will get you lifelong happiness and cute companions.

And, you're insufficiently concerned about Satchmo TBogg.


It's all painfully true, but believe me when I say I LOVE you!
.


Gravatartrippy
neighbor just stopped by to say "keep the kitties inside"...they saw two large Coyotes this am on my corner (basically in my front yard). I dont exactly live in the country!


GravatarThen who was actually responsible for the anthrax attacks?
eel | 08.02.08 - 10:14 pm | #


I'm gonna go out on a limb, and say that it was an American with access to weaponized anthrax from a domestic lab, and a fairly solid grasp of American politics and media.


GravatarThen who was actually responsible for the anthrax attacks?

It has been pretty much understood for years now that whoever mailed the anthrax was almost certainly an American right-wing extremist who hated the media, and had access to Army bioweapons, and that the real effect of the attacks was to clear away rational thought for the rape of Iraq (which was quite brainlessly blamed by the respectable sources that are so quick to lecture about conspiracy throry). From a TV justice perspective the question has no answer. You know what would bring us closer to an answer would be a new approach to government transparency in the investigation of this administration.


GravatarPhila: hard to credit a foreigner with the impulse to send anthrax to, of all places, the National Enquirer building.

A foreign terrorist likely wouldn't have chosen, say, Oklahoma City either...


GravatarI suggest you do!
Zap Rowsdower


I to go with the "storm drain" theory for Dealey Plaza, because...well...we would know if the Loch Ness Monster was on the grassy knoll.


GravatarErinPDX: neighbor just stopped by to say "keep the kitties inside"...they saw two large Coyotes this am on my corner (basically in my front yard). I dont exactly live in the country!

Me, neither, but I've seen one red fox, raccoons and multitudes of possums in my neighborhood.

I almost hit a possum speedbump on the Vino, just lastnight.
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GravatarMoonbats!


Gravatark&y, no, I am not new to english. It's only that with my learning German is is really screwing my english up, especially spelling. Like I find myself switching t's and d's when they appear at the end of a work. Seriously, learning german is screwing me up.


GravatarDavid Broder interviewing Washington Post columnist George Will on Cspan2.


GravatarNot entirely sure what that means, but I sure hope you're still thinking of coming to Portland so I can buy you a drink.

Well, you can buy me a drink in September when I come over to sail in Malletts Bay, you plastiform prosthetic penis waving gnat raping hose head.


Gravatarneighbor just stopped by to say "keep the kitties inside"...they saw two large Coyotes this am on my corner (basically in my front yard).

"My bet's on Pablo."

[Neptune]


GravatarIn case he hasn't seen it, and hoping he's around, this is for Roadmaster:

The Blues Silence A D.J. Who Knew Them Well, about the death of Dee Henderson in Memphis.

I gotta go pack; we're off at 6 AM Central tomorrow for London. Maybe more later, maybe not.


Gravatarjk David Broder interviewing Washington Post columnist George Will on Cspan2.

Thanks for the warning!
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GravatarThose hybrid dog-coyotes mostly live in the suburbs, I think.


GravatarDavid Broder interviewing Washington Post columnist George Will on Cspan2.
jk


I weep for the electrons forced into service of this....


Gravatar[I could go on like this all night.] - Uncle Smokes

I could have dunced all night, I could have dunced all night,...


I could have dunced, dunced, dunced. All night.


GravatarBroder/Will: Gas speaking to gas.

Not meat, making meat-sounds to other meat. Gas->gas.
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GravatarGeneration Kill's 3rd episode had a monologue about a Tastee-Freez


GravatarDavid Broder interviewing Washington Post columnist George Will on Cspan2.

SLURP SLURP "oh my" SLURP SLURP "watch the shirt, it's a Brooks Brothers" SLURP SLURP SLURP "[Takei voice] oh my" SLURP SLURP SLURP


GravatarIf Broder and Will reverse the polarity and cross the streams, the world as we know it may not survive...


GravatarPhila: hard to credit a foreigner with the impulse to send anthrax to, of all places, the National Enquirer building.

Yeah, there's that too. But honestly...Tom Daschle? And "take penacilan now"?

Give me a fucking break.


GravatarYes...I was a fan of The Cure back in the day.

(still kinda am)


GravatarDeacon Blues: I weep for the electrons forced into service of this....



1st of the Day! THANK YOU!
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GravatarI'm pretty sure simels is at some watering hole on the upper west side and not loitering here like I am.


GravatarIt's those freaky armadillos I'se afraid of.
jc in ky


arm yourself, or flee. One lies in the middle of Rt. 22 in Clarksburg TN, circa 50 miles south of the TN/KY border.

That one is of course dead. But they're on the march. Or waddle, or whatever they do.


GravatarWell, some of the folks here are celebrities and others are not.


GravatarSeriously, learning german is screwing me up.
eine Heidelberre | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 10:19 pm | #

as long as you know that you're screwed up. Too bad you're too much the coward to do anything about it.


GravatarGeorge Will says when he takes his dog for a walk, when he drives to work, when he eats his lunch, he listens to an audiobook and tries to replenish lost intellectual capital.


GravatarWait, we've got them in the same room?


GravatarWell, some of the folks here are celebrities and others are not.

I definitely am. Yeah.
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GravatarLooks like the White House let some Reality slip through their fingers before they could strangle it.
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The number of Americans infected by the AIDS virus each year is much higher than the government has been estimating, U.S. health officials reported, acknowledging that their numbers have understated the level of the epidemic.

The country had roughly 56,300 new HIV infections in 2006 — about a 40 percent increase from the 40,000 annual estimate used for the past dozen years. The new figure is due to a better blood test and new statistical methods, and not a worsening of the epidemic, officials said.
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Oh, waidda minnut. More Purity Ball ammunition, silly me.


GravatarWell, some of the folks here are celebrities and others are not.

I'm just a bartender.


GravatarGeorge Will says when he takes his dog for a walk, when he drives to work, when he eats his lunch, he listens to an audiobook and tries to replenish lost intellectual capital.

Were that true, we would not have seen him for most of the last two decades.
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GravatarWell, some of the folks here are celebrities and others are not.
Le Jackel

I thought "celebrity" was the new "moonbat" or is McCain just out of touch?


Gravatarhe listens to an audiobook and tries to replenish lost intellectual capital.
jk | 08.02.08 - 10:24 pm | #

Not working. Like eine, an empty head with no "in" box.


GravatarWell, some of the folks here are celebrities and others are not.

I'm really Paul Bunyan.


GravatarSeriously, reading K&Y's comments, that's what this place was like in 2003 and 2004. Good stuff, very educational. Le Jackel too. Maybe a few others.

And then there is Ronjazz.


GravatarSo more new infections of HIV is another victory for 'abstinence-only sex education'.

It's worth remembering that they're killing actual human beings with that crap.


Gravatar"My bet's on Pablo."


lol


GravatarWell, you can buy me a drink in September when I come over to sail in Malletts Bay, you plastiform prosthetic penis waving gnat raping hose head.

I bet you say that to all the able-bodied seamen...


Gravatar

Hecate!

Happy August!


GravatarGeorge Will... listens to an audiobook and tries to replenish lost intellectual capital.
How does he explain his fascination with men swinging bats?


GravatarGeorge Will ... tries to replenish lost intellectual capital.

By selling pencils?


GravatarSo the new fundie plan is to rain Obama out of the Denver stadium. Really.


GravatarLaurent must be on a really, really long pee break.


GravatarI'm actually Pat Buchannon.
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GravatarDads, you're like a bartender/celebrity.


GravatarAnd then there is Ronjazz.
eine Heidelberre | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 10:26 pm | #

note the lack of intelligent input from eine. not a single worthwhile point, not a single thought worth holding.


GravatarDavid Broder interviewing Washington Post columnist George Will on Cspan2.

It'd be more interesting to listen to their cab drivers.


GravatarI gotcher internal server error...right here...


Well, some of the folks here are schizo sock puppets and others are not.
Le Jackel


found your truthiness


Gravatar Vicki!


GravatarWow...just saw that Corsi is claiming Obama supports post-birth abortion.

Seems to me you need to tell plausible lies if you want to affect people who aren't already in the sewer with you.


GravatarGeorge Will says Obama is the Fred Astaire of politics, you can't take your eyes off him, he's a master of motion, but like Fred Astaire you wouldn't want his hands on a nuclear weapon.


GravatarRuh-Roh



http:// www.marginalrevolution.co...e_nurture_.html



The graph does not say that adopted children necessarily have low income. On the contrary, some have high and some have low income and the same is true of biological children. What the graph says is that higher parental income predicts higher child income but only for biological children and not for adoptees.

What do parents transmit to their biological children but not to their adopted children? Genes. When we observe, as we do, that low-income parents tend to have low-income children and high-income parents tend to have high-income children we should not bemoan the inequities of nurture but rather the inequities of nature.


GravatarI bet you say that to all the able-bodied seamen...

Natch.


GravatarWow...just saw that Corsi is claiming Obama supports post-birth abortion.

Can we submit names for the list?


Gravatarbut like Fred Astaire you wouldn't want his hands on a nuclear weapon.



#2!
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GravatarFlipping through the cable TV while dinner is cooking, I stumble across David Broder asking George Will about Barack Obama.

I believe this is one of Atrios's "Please kill me" moments.


Gravatarjk | 08.02.08 - 10:28 pm | #

Really? Fred Astaire can be trusted with a nuclear weapon. McCain, never.


GravatarWe were pretty much a mess when we started, which had to've been around 2004, and then we gradually got better.


Gravatarbut like Fred Astaire you wouldn't want his hands on a nuclear weapon.
jk

I would take Fred Astaire with "the football" over Chimpy any day.


GravatarWell, they fall into the other category don't they.


GravatarWhen we observe, as we do, that low-income parents tend to have low-income children and high-income parents tend to have high-income children we should not bemoan the inequities of nurture but rather the inequities of nature.
hmmmmmm | 08.02.08 - 10:28 pm | #

Wow, bullshit is deep here.


GravatarWow, bullshit is deep here.
ronjazz



sky blue, grass green, water wet....


GravatarSo more new infections of HIV is another victory for 'abstinence-only sex education'.

It's worth remembering that they're killing actual human beings with that crap.



ProfW--in that vein, have you ever heard of Stephen Bezruchka? You'd find him on the same wavelength:


http://www.alternativeradio.org/...s/ BEZS004.shtml


GravatarI would take Fred Astaire with "the football" over Chimpy any day.
George Johnston | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 10:30 pm | #

obama as well. Give me a smart, sane person any day. That excludes all republicans, fucking sociopathic whackjobs that they are.


Gravatarincome =/= nature
a strongly divided society is a weak society


GravatarSo the new fundie plan is to rain Obama out of the Denver stadium. Really.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | 08.02.08 - 10:27 pm | #


Wow. He really thinks he's cute and funny, huh?


Gravatarronjazz: Wow, bullshit is deep here.

You, Terry C and a few others have the power to make it all but vanish. But you won't.
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GravatarLook, they can't beat Obama, so they are attempting to destroy him.


GravatarSo Will doesn't want an upbeat optimist like Obama with the launch codes but wants John "Don't jangle those keys" McCain to have the nuclear button?


Gravatarbut like Fred Astaire you wouldn't want his hands on a nuclear weapon.

Ginger Rogers, on the other hand, could handle one backwards and in high heels.


GravatarMrs Blues insists I eat pasta. l8r!


GravatarWow, bullshit is deep here.

Yes. Yes, it is.


GravatarI think most of these questions are both/and rather than either/or, and I don't think they're adolescent or trivial. The institutional policies we pursue as a culture are pretty dependent on trending points of view.
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GravatarGeorge Will says Obama is the Fred Astaire of politics, you can't take your eyes off him, he's a master of motion, but like Fred Astaire you wouldn't want his hands on a nuclear weapon.
jk


Huh.


GravatarAnd she wouldn't have slanties, either.


GravatarYou, Terry C and a few others have the power to make it all but vanish. But you won't.
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 10:32 pm | #

You're wrong if you think that these assholes will leave of their own volition. But tell us about your scooter.


Gravatarjust saw the dana millbank "when he said 'the Post writers are smart like rocks" and we wrote an article in which we accurately quoted him as saying 'the Post writers are smart' we were living up to our high levels of journalism."


Gravatarthe inequities of nature.

We should accept getting septicemia from minor wounds, while we're at it.


GravatarSchizo, is that a dog breed? I think it's a dog breed.


GravatarThe new local news hottie is, er, hot.


GravatarGeorge Will says Obama is the Fred Astaire of politics,

They do have a good sense of rhythm, no?


GravatarWow, bullshit is deep here.



Don't hate.


GravatarFred Astaire you wouldn't want his hands on a nuclear weapon.
jk


No kidding. Fucker probably would've launched a first strike on Gene Kelley.

Jesus. When your political exigencies oblige you to demonize Fred Astaire, you're really up shit creek.


GravatarEwwwww....someone just drove by a neighbor's house, rolled down his window, and started blasting "Do Ya Think I'm Sexy".

Personally, I like the Revolting Cocks version better.


GravatarWe still don't know if the deep bullshit was posted by Milton Friedman's and Ayn Rand's low-income love child.


GravatarWow, bullshit is deep here.

Very.


GravatarGeorge Will says Obama is the Fred Astaire of politics,

Did he go on to name who the Ginger Rogers is?


GravatarDon't hate.
hmmmmmm | 08.02.08 - 10:37 pm | #


Don't lie.


GravatarLook, they can't beat Obama, so they are attempting to destroy him.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


Well, that's one way to beat him. There's been a revolting parade of YAF-grad types on tv the past few days.
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Gravatarhmmm: your cite takes a long, long leap, well in advance of the available facts. Among obvious flaws in the study is that when white folk adopt Korean children, there are differences in how those kids are accepted. The conclusion, that gene transmission is the only difference between biological and adopted kids, is absurd on its face. (I speak here as the parent of both biological and adopted children.) The graph demonstrates that non-adoptees in general earn more than adoptees, and could as easily be interpreted as demonstrating that adoptees--for a host of reasons, many of which have nothing to do with genetics--are at a disadvantage.

Then, how do you get policy out of it? You don't, for the reason the paper itself cites, that, even if you accept the conclusions at face value, there's enough variability in both cohorts such that policy must be made in order to offer equality of educational and professional opportunity to all, regardless of status.

Genes are no more the whole story than the New Socialist Man after the Revolution finally came would have been.


GravatarDear Dudes,
I appreciate all you have done for me. And the last upgrade was bitching. But I am curious whether the upper back stiffness is an artifact or an unforeseen problem. Because otherwise I'm going to need a hell of a lot of more opiates if it is the latter.
Sincerely,


GravatarDid he go on to name who the Ginger Rogers is?
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 10:38 pm | #

Angela Davis


Gravatar{{{{Group Hug}}}}


GravatarSo what will happen if Cindy McCain thinks the briefcase carrying the "button" has prescription pain killers instead?


GravatarJohn McCain has been a fuck up his whole privileged life.


GravatarOh Simelsly, send Ronjazz to the bench. Bring in Terry C., or Billy B., or even Stunt Woman. Ronjazz needs air.


GravatarGenes are no more the whole story than the New Socialist Man after the Revolution finally came would have been.
ProfWombat | 08.02.08 - 10:38 pm | #

In other words, the bullshit is deep.


GravatarMcCain crashed 5 jets - how many nuclear missiles will he be allowed to crash?


GravatarThe graph demonstrates that non-adoptees in general earn more than adoptees, and could as easily be interpreted as demonstrating that adoptees--for a host of reasons, many of which have nothing to do with genetics--are at a disadvantage.

Such as poor maternal health, no prenatal care, poor prenatal nutrition, several months prior to placement in less than optimal conditions . . . .


GravatarMost of the injuries McCain received in Nam (broken arms) were caused by the ejection from the plane. Once the North Vietnamese realize who his father was, he got protection.


GravatarA lot of shit just happens randomly. No reason at all.


GravatarMcCain crashed 5 jets - how many nuclear missiles will he be allowed to crash?
George Johnston


Just one, but he gets to wave his cowboy hat and yell Aaaaaahooooo! on the way down.


GravatarMcCain crashed 5 jets - how many nuclear missiles will he be allowed to crash?
George Johnston | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 10:40 pm | #


Well, he's rather good at crashing, which all-in-all is a good thing.


GravatarOnce the North Vietnamese realize who his father was, he got protection.
cosmic tumbler | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 10:40 pm | #

and hookers and blow, from all reports. "songbird" is his nickname, given to him by his fellow POWs. He's an affirmative action, government-coddled, idiotic piece of shit.


GravatarA lot of shit just happens randomly. No reason at all.
Moe Szyslak


That's how I got here.


GravatarEvening, bats.

Opinion: Is this the best McCain can do?
By Beth Reinhard | The Miami Herald
You know we've officially entered the silly season of the presidential campaign


Somebody's been reading Atrios.


GravatarA lot of shit just happens randomly. No reason at all.

That's what the Masons and AIPAC want you to think...


Gravatarmontag: thanks for the cite; I didn't know him. Sounds like an interesting, thoughtful man. I'd certainly agree that our sense of community, and what used to, quaintly, be called the social contract, have been riven seven ways from Sunday, and that might be worth attacking with social policy rather than SSRIs.

Though I'd put it that, well before everyone was depressed or had PTSD, there were an awful lot of folks doing a lot of silent drinking in VFW posts, too.


Gravatar(Eine, those are actually separate people without a hierarchy. In fact the people you're attacking are all regulars.)


GravatarBest three-chord band ever: Social Distortion, no?


GravatarA lot of shit just happens randomly. No reason at all.
Moe Szyslak

That's what the Masons and AIPAC want you to think...
Zap Rowsdower


Excellent...the Trilateral Commission's plan continues to work...but I've said to much already.


GravatarGeorge Will on Cspan2 says we haven't had a white, male Secretary of State for over 12 years.


Gravatarronjazz; You're wrong if you think that these assholes will leave of their own volition. But tell us about your scooter.

No. You know that if you take one jab at 'em, and ignore from that point on, they get tired, and go fishin' in other ponds. Don't you?
.


GravatarWhen it comes to genes I prefer 501 button fly.


Gravatarron: well, yeah...

Hecate: didn't even get into the gender issues in adoptees. Nor, for that matter, the various biological mechanisms behind gene expression...


GravatarBest three-chord band ever: Social Distortion, no?
Zap Rowsdower | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 10:44 pm | #

Don't know them. Anybody know Brave Combo? Just did a gig with them tonight. Nice folks, fun band.


GravatarGeorge Will on Cspan2 says we haven't had a white, male Secretary of State for over 12 years.
jk


Okay...so NTodd was onto something...


GravatarOh Simelsly, send Ronjazz to the bench. Bring in Terry C., or Billy B., or even Stunt Woman. Ronjazz needs air

what, Simels is really all of these characters? does he even really own a beret-like hat that’s not a beret?


GravatarMcCain doesn't speak for the McCain campaign.

Your own spokesman is telling the public that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. And Obama has to be careful? Dude, that sinks the elevator pitch before the fucking doors have even closed.

Fail.


GravatarProfWombat | 08.02.08 - 10:45 pm | #

Just makin' a joke. I like your explication.


GravatarGeorge Will on Cspan2 says we haven't had a white, male Secretary of State for over 12 years.
jk

So is he proposing a quota system for white males?


GravatarGeorge Will on Cspan2 says we haven't had a white, male Secretary of State for over 12 years.
jk


The shame i say, the shame!


Gravatar...or The Ramones? I've gotta believe that they used more than three chords.


GravatarAs Ivins' name emerged, so did a portrait of a conflicted, troubled man. His friends knew him as the man who played the keyboard at church.


I wonder if he also had books by Savage, Hannity and Limbaugh


Gravatarron: no sweat, buddy; with you all the way.


GravatarGeorge Will on Cspan2 says we haven't had a white, male Secretary of State for over 12 years.

Yeah.

The people that were pulling their strings were though.

FOAD George.


GravatarGeorge Will on Cspan2 says we haven't had a white, male Secretary of State for over 12 years.
jk


The alternate joke would be: "It's our turn now!"


GravatarGeorge Will on Cspan2 says we haven't had a white, male Secretary of State for over 12 years.
jk

Well, given the piss-poor job Condiliar's done, I can understand his concern. Maybe we should explain to him that republicans can't govern.


Gravatar
Excellent...the Trilateral Commission's plan continues to work...but I've said to much already.


/starts to whistle Stonecutter's song


GravatarWhen it comes to genes I prefer 501 button fly.

Those are OK till you stand in them too close to a campfire.

Hot ingots of copper right up against your parts.

Ow ow~


Gravatarfor a host of reasons, many of which have nothing to do with genetics--are at a disadvantage.


indeed.

Welp, professor ( what do you profess, btw?) if it ain't nature, it's nurture


GravatarDon't you just love the deep, dark evening that portends of every possibility.


GravatarFerd Astaire married a klanswomen. Really.


GravatarWhen it comes to genes I prefer 501 button fly.

Women love them.


GravatarWelp, professor ( what do you profess, btw?) if it ain't nature, it's nurture
hmmmmmm | 08.02.08 - 10:48 pm | #

Wow, talk about clueless.


Gravatar...or The Ramones? I've gotta believe that they used more than three chords.

Oh for God's sake. And this had been the consptheor debunk by shame thread.


GravatarGeorge Will says John McCain would be 72 when he takes the oath and that is actuarially ominous.


GravatarWhite dudes did it for 222 years, and they're complaining after just 12 years out?


GravatarWouldn't rain in Denver prove he's not the one?

And ironic.


Gravatarif it ain't nature, it's nurture

Or random shit. Rainstorms. Political turmoil. Dogs barking. All sorts of shit.


GravatarOh no K&Y, I am not attacking, I'm playing. And I do believe that Ronjazz is played out, he needs air. He needs to sit on the bench for awhile. I am sure that any one of the others I suggested could sub for him.

But I will pose a serious question to you two. I think I am talking to K so please check with Y, do you guys think Simels has sock puppets? How many? I say more that 40.


GravatarI think Obama can overcome the attacks if we help him counteract them. He does have a rapid response team.

Can't believe what I'm hearing, though.


GravatarGeorge Will on Cspan2 says we haven't had a white, male Secretary of State for over 12 years.

Yeah.

The people that were pulling their strings were though.

FOAD George.


I love you.

And, twelve years? We've NEVER had a woman or an African American president or vice president, George. So get back to me when we've gone 200+ years and we'll talk.


GravatarOh for God's sake. And this had been the consptheor debunk by shame thread.

I see the asian nazis are back.


GravatarOh for God's sake. And this had been the consptheor debunk by shame thread.

ITT owned The Ramones. See? I can tie it all together.


GravatarGood play D.


GravatarCan't believe what I'm hearing, though.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | 08.02.08 - 10:51 pm | #

Don't get distracted by this. It's important to determine the Simels sockpuppet population. Otherwise, some poor stupid fuck in wingtard-land is going to go even crazier.


Gravatarfor eight years we've had a lizard as vice-president.


GravatarAnybody know Brave Combo?

I love their Xmas album!

"Must Be Santa" is a perennial around our house...


GravatarJesus. The "study" or rather blog post old hmmm links to is from November 2004.
Posted by Alex Tabarrok on November 29, 2004 at 07:30 AM in Economics, Science | Permalink

It's not just claptrap, it's stale claptrap.


Gravatar5 minutes is an eternity.


GravatarAnd, twelve years? We've NEVER had a woman or an African American president or vice president, George. So get back to me when we've gone 200+ years and we'll talk.
Hecate




Nice. Excellent.


GravatarSo if we can't afford to buy Chinese goods anymore because transportation costs are skyrocketing will they dump our T-Bills?


GravatarMt grandfather was perfectly healthy at 72 and not at 75.


Gravatar...or The Ramones? I've gotta believe that they used more than three chords.
Zap Rowsdower | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 10:47 pm | #


that's heretical.


GravatarBack from dinner. Anything happen while I was gone?


GravatarAnd, twelve years? We've NEVER had a woman or an African American president or vice president, George. So get back to me when we've gone 200+ years and we'll talk.
Hecate


But...but...but look at how great we are!


GravatarWaiting...


GravatarComment by eine Heidelberre blocked.

Is the buffet still open?


GravatarGo O.


Gravatar


cosmic tumbler

Cosmik, did the Ramones use more than three chords?


GravatarWell, you gotta admit, during those 12 years when black people were Secretary of State, the entire country went to shit.


GravatarHmmmmm: not so. A common sense view suggests that one is dealt a hand, by genetics and environment, internal and external, and then plays it as best one can. Given the view, again consistent with common sense and experience, that human destiny is multifactorial, one is obligated to lead one's own life as decently as possible, and to help others do the same. Insisting on the primacy of either nature or nurture is a fool's game, diversionary and usually self-serving.

I call myself ProfWombat in a spirit of self-mockery, though I'm going to help teach a course in law school this fall. My background is medicine (surgery) professionally, with a lifelong interest in mathematics, physics, philosophy and like that. I also read a lot, and served as co-captain of the American Olympic nose-picking team in my youth. I was awarder 9.8 for form, and 9.6 for content, enough for the Bronze...


GravatarIt's important to determine the Simels sock puppet population.

Slutty Jewish Girl?

Are there more, other than Lynryd Byrnstyn?


GravatarCosmik, did the Ramones use more than three chords?
k&y, reggin please


3 per song, or the same 3 in every song?


GravatarProof positive!

Ramones cover Tom Waits.


Gravatarcosmic tumbler

Cosmik, did the Ramones use more than three chords?
k&y, reggin please!


No, but that doesn't absolve you, asshole.


GravatarThere's at least five chords in that song.


GravatarI call myself ProfWombat in a spirit of self-mockery...

You mean... you're not REALLY a wombat?

Man, I had a meeting set with Pixar for Monday!


GravatarI was awarder 9.8 for form, and 9.6 for content, enough for the Bronze...
ProfWombat


That was you on my Wheaties!


Gravatar(Watch him not get "Cosmik")


Gravatar3 per song, or the same 3 in every song?
Ali, spiritual advisor | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 10:56 pm |

I recall a couple of songs with only two chords, and possible one with only one chord. Many of their "chords" were diads, so they might not qualify as chords at all.


GravatarGeorge Will says he writes his column in longhand, early in the morning at his office, which is a Georgetown townhouse built in 1811.


Gravatar(Watch him not get "Cosmik")
k&y, reggin please!


Fuck you, you asian nazi.


GravatarTremendous power, cool. We like that.


Gravatarrecall a couple of songs with only two chords, and possible one with only one chord. Many of their "chords" were diads, so they might not qualify as chords at all.
ronjazz


Neil Young's guitar solo on Cinnamon Girl is one note, over and over again. But you probably know that.


GravatarLe Jackel seems to be live-blogging some sort of sporting event.


Gravatardave: the self-mockery referred, of course, to my title, always an object worth mocking, rather than to my ancestry...


GravatarWell...it's getting late, and I want to make some music.

Y'all take care of your good selves, and thanks for an energetic evening.

As to the "deep bullshit" from earlier...for the record, I am adopted. I have a good income. The father who adopted me had a good income. He was the natural born child of a man with a good income. We each were able to attain gainful employment in large part by having the opportunities and security that money can buy. End of story.


GravatarThat was you on my Wheaties!

I think I'll take mine dry, thanks...


Gravatarcatalexis: Your own spokesman is telling the public that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. And Obama has to be careful? Dude, that sinks the elevator pitch before the fucking doors have even closed.

Fail.


Nail, meet head.

If Obama makes one negative ad, this one's it.
.


GravatarField goal time.


Gravatar'Shotgun' (Jr Wells) had only one chord, I think...hell of a good song, anyway...


Gravatarthe self-mockery referred, of course, to my title, always an object worth mocking, rather than to my ancestry...

Thank God! I've got a lot riding on this deal...


GravatarCosmik, did the Ramones use more than three chords?
k&y, reggin please

Dontcha really almost haveta youse four chords? I mean you get your G C D and then Em? Right?

(Been awhile?)


GravatarCripes. A fieldgoal settles it. Not going to happen.


GravatarGo D.


GravatarI'm going to bed. Later, all.


GravatarGeorge Will says the southern tip of Illinois is further south than Richmond Virginia.


GravatarAverage rainfall in Denver looks like about two inches for the total month of August. So the fundies have a lot of praying to do.


GravatarCripes. A fieldgoal settles it. Not going to happen.

Arena Football? NFL Europe???


GravatarDWD: Em is the relative minor of G, so it doesn't count, I guess...


GravatarAnd also, "Who's qualified to lead? The guy who doesn't speak for his CAMPAIGN?"
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GravatarCripes. A fieldgoal settles it. Not going to happen.

The yetis got a field goal in The Mummy 3.


GravatarI wish that I'd gotten the large container of lime-cilantro sorbet at the farmers' market instead of the small one.


Gravatar"'Shotgun' (Jr Wells) had only one chord, I think...hell of a good song, anyway..."

coconut by harry nilsson had one chord.
c7th I think


GravatarAnd also, "Who's qualified to lead? The guy who doesn't speak for his CAMPAIGN?"
.
Jeffraham Prestonian




GravatarThere was a discussion along these lines in the disastrously bad, watchable only while drunk, glorious first effort of the South Park people, Cannibal The Musical.


GravatarUSFL???


GravatarGo baby.


GravatarHecate: I wish that I'd gotten the large container of lime-cilantro sorbet at the farmers' market instead of the small one.

Sounds scary, but oddly, I have a half-chub.
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GravatarGeorge Will says we're about to see a new burst of misplaced confidence in the ability of government to fine tune society.


GravatarMaybe it's not football, Zap? Do they get field goals in other sports?

I am curious now.


Gravatar'Shotgun' (Jr Wells) had only one chord, I think...hell of a good song, anyway...
ProfWombat | 08.02.08 - 11:00 pm | #

True enough, along with Coconut, Chain Of Fools, The Beat Goes On, Mannish Boy, and some other good songs.


GravatarXFL????


Gravatar"More Bass Lines That Zap Knows"???

Hell,Zap, I thought that you were talking fishing...


Gravatari luv the ramones, but this is better
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k...h? v=kzKiqk2iynY


GravatarSo are the asian nazis going to educate me a little more about the Mothers?


GravatarGeorge Will says we're about to see a new burst of misplaced confidence in the ability of government to fine tune society.
jk

George Will had no misgivings about Chimpy fine tuning Iraq society...


GravatarRonjazz, Vicki wasn't talking about you. But being that you are Simels, I can see why you missed it. All of Eschaton is about the great entertainment critic. Swami, I do declare. In fact, soon Eschaton will be an entertainment, movies, etc. blog. Then Vicki will have to get on board.


GravatarPut the lime in the coconut and drink it all up.


GravatarMaybe CFL.


GravatarGeorge Will says we're about to see a new burst of misplaced confidence

George Will is about to see a new burst of a tax bill, and if he leaves the country, there'll be a 99% tax on his shit. And fuck him. He'll have to enjoy it.
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GravatarOkay its close.


GravatarI thought that you were talking fishing...

Heh...we're all about the Walleye and Sunny's here.


GravatarGeorge Will says we're about to see a new burst of misplaced confidence in the ability of government to fine tune society.
jk


Because all of the deregulation and self-restraint that he prefers has proven to work so well.


GravatarDWD: Em is the relative minor of G, so it doesn't count, I guess...
ProfWombat | 08.02.08 - 11:02 pm | #

for the sake of this discussion, i think it does count as another chord. Shameful.


Gravatarit seems that some of these trolls have become like Donny Brasco'd, they’re confused as to where their loyalties lie. Maybe that’s a good thing but there are at least 3 distinked ones here now who no longer just play off each other(if different persons) the obvious asshole aint one maybe, connected


Gravatar"paying 600 dollars a month for internet access is popular"-telecoms


GravatarJackel is canuckistani?


GravatarThe Ramones were truly god-like.


GravatarTRACK FIVE (just updated) has the best bass playing, evar.
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GravatarSaturday Night Lights...Saskatoon style!


Gravatar...yawn...


GravatarWaiting...


GravatarDoctor, is there nothing I can take?


GravatarBurn the clock baby.


GravatarMultilingual S H E E T S


GravatarJackel is canuckistani?

Quebecois


GravatarThe Ramones were truly god-like.

Positively worthy of Azathoth.


GravatarGeorge Will is, on the other hand, about to see a new burst of well-placed howling that things have evolved to their current parlous state not through the magic of historical mechanism but because of actual malfeasance in the conduct of government, and that things can, should and damn well must be done better.

This isn't fine tuning, George, and has nothing to do with fine tuning. Your seeking subtlety here is like looking for gold in a coal mine.


GravatarHow can anyone hate well-played keyboard percussion... marimba, glockenspiel, vibes...
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GravatarSo are the asian nazis going to educate me a little more about the Mothers?

The idiot bastard son
The father's a Nazi in Congress today
The mother's a hooker somewhere in LA
The idiot boy
Abandoned to perish in back of a car
Kenny will stash him away in a jar

Those Mothers?


GravatarWill Brett Favre be a Rough Rider or a Alouette next year???


GravatarBrett Favre - yes, I can see him in Edmonton. Prolly warmer than Green Bay.


GravatarPut the lime in the coconut and drink it all up.

Heh. Indeed!


Gravatar"Will Brett Favre be a Rough Rider or a Alouette next year???
Zap Rowsdower | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 11:11 pm | # "

They will pay to keep him away.


Gravatar3rd and two.


GravatarBlocking from the rear.


GravatarWatch it D.


GravatarSheets, jackel.


Gravatar12 seconds.


GravatarSo if we can't afford to buy Chinese goods anymore because transportation costs are skyrocketing will they dump our T-Bills?
George Johnston


Like, overboard? To lighten the ship?


GravatarWe're watching dude.


GravatarGeorge Will says we're about to see a new burst of misplaced confidence in the ability of government to fine tune society.

Well, Will can eat my shorts if he thinks what's needed is "fine tuning."

It's been really, truly broken for at least thirty-five years, and has been getting worse over time--and particularly over the last eight. These bozos have been out to prove to the public--right from the start--that the government is incapable of helping ordinary people (although it's done right well by the wealthy in society), starting with the events of 9/11.

The most expensive and extensive early warning system in the world was utterly thwarted by less than two dozen people equipped with Bronze Age tools--knives.

They wanted government to fail, and dramatically.

Therefore, what's required, for many years to come, are people who want government to succeed on behalf of all the people, are smart enough to do it, and are aware enough to see the wreckage for what it is and begin to clear it away and rebuild.

George Will willfully ignores the immensity of the task, because he's hoping society stays pretty much as it is, which is good for him.


Gravatar"George Will willfully ignores the immensity of the task, because he's hoping society stays pretty much as it is, which is good for him.
montag | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 11:17 pm | # "

Some people profit from collapse, chaos, and criminal neglect of the political economy.


Gravatarmontag: yup; my point, but said much better. Tip of the hat/


Gravatarhmmmmmm | 08.02.08-10:37 pm | #
Wow, bullshit is deep here.

Don't hate."

OK, I'll just killfile your concerntroll ass.

Whaddya think about that, Slappy?

Oh, wait. Never mind. You're killfiled. I won't see any reply.

YAY ME!


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