I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
No way!
No way way
"I always feel like, somebody's watching me!"
stopped
Curse youse!
Jeffraham nailed that this morning. Why would they keep killing al Qaeda secret.
The CIA has had the technology and the corporate co-operation to snoop on domestic comms for ages. The only thing restraining it was the law, and the willingness of the executive branch to force the CIA to abide by it.
"Hanging Mr Cooper"
Terrorist hoof-bump.
The Rolling Thunder Years...
It is not clear when or why the program was revived as a possibility, but it never got very far from the drawing board, as Republican Congressmen who received a confidential briefing about it by CIA Director Leon Panetta.
Um, better English please.
But of course, anyone who even hinted at such a possibility any time in the last 7 years was called a dirty fucking hippie, was crazy, was suffering from Bush Derangement Syndrome, was told they hated their country, was called a terrorist, was threatened with dire unspecified consequences, was told they should die, was told they had no right to even speak their minds.
But we're the unbalanced ones.
Everybody love Ahkbar
Why would this not surprise me in the least?
details, details. the mere existance of a secret cia program concealed from congress is the crime. the purpose of the program is secondary at best.
Oh, screw all this! There's something MUCH MORE IMPORTANT happening:
Jessica Simpson and Tony Romo have called it quits, Usmagazine.com has confirmed.
A source close to Simpson confirms they broke up the night before her 29th birthday July 10. She was supposed to celebrate with a Ken and Barbie-themed party. (On Simpson's birthday, Romo spent the night at Los Angeles hot spot My House.)
"She canceled her party because of this," the source tells Us. "She's doing OK."
"Barbie party didn't happen, but I turned 29 and feel like I am on top of the world yelling I LOVE GETTING OLDER!" she wrote on her Twitter page Saturday.
Later, she wrote: "Everyone needs to know that hope floats...grab the strings and pull it back to you... Falling asleep with my mom and the dogs. Please, Lord, give all of my beautiful fans, friends, enemies, and family rest. Bring all of us peace."
The Bush administration believed that Democrats and journalists were traitors. So of course they were spying on Americans.
Left Behind:
Well, according to Martin L. Gross, what's destroying America is everything from the Alternative Minimum Tax to Zip Codes. It's all part of the juggernaut of mismanagement, malfeasance, and incompetence that has destroyed the strong foundation laid down by the founding fathers which is leading the American gov't to extinction.
Zip Codes. I knew they were a socialist menace!
from downstairs;
hi and mwah! backatallaya who gave me a warm welcome home.
"Everyone needs to know that hope floats...grab the strings and pull it back to you...
hmmm.
the strong foundation laid down that lead to a Civil War in 70 years?
A source close to Simpson confirms they broke up the night before her 29th birthday July 10. She was supposed to celebrate with a Ken and Barbie-themed party
what?
then where are my keys?
"I only have half a key. I had to split it with the sound effects man."
I checked the other side - they're speaking Chinese.
ZIP codes = it's teh new Fluoridation!
equally plausible possibility: The program could have required the Agency to spy on Americans
I've said for years that they spied on the Kerry campaign, Senators, Congress critters, and the media.
the strong foundation laid down that lead to a Civil War in 70 years?
An inconvenient truth
The right just loves itself some domestic spying on liberals.
Having an little black book is sooooooo republican.
A 29 year old was throwing herself a Barbie themed party?
Oh dear. Would brunettes even be invited?
China is apparently irritated we don't want to buy their processed chicken ... so I thought it would be good to remind them why.
The list is long.
i'm so tired.
The right just loves itself some domestic spying on liberals.
Having an little black book is sooooooo republican.
Worked for Hoover
I've said for years that they spied on the Kerry campaign, Senators, Congress critters, and the media.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
It would be absolutely irresponsible for them not to. What an opportunity!
"I've said for years that they spied on the Kerry campaign, Senators, Congress critters, and the media."
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Yup, it was obvious to us dirty fucking hippies. Trouble is, we have a villager mind set media.
Pretty much everything that we've speculated about them doing it turns out they've done.
So, what will come of this?
I've learned to not get my hopes up.
Why is Big Time liar suddenly so quiet and why is Lyin Liz the designated liar this time around?
"Welcome Back, Khalid"
Stunt Woman
Golf clap.
~
Yea, but it was just Americans on the phone with bin Ladin.
my pet theory on why it was kept from congress is that too many congresscritters were caught breaking the law. e.g. Fat Denny.
"I've said for years that they spied on the Kerry campaign, Senators, Congress critters, and the media."
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
well, sure. they tried using plumbers before and look how that turned out. about time they used professionals.
China punked Bush three times, maybe four times, at least. They are going to have to get used to the idea that he is gone and we aren't their punk anymore.
The program had to do with reading U.S. e-mail. That's it. You read it here first.
The Rolling Thunder Years...
Roadmaster, Vinyl Addict
Dylan, mid 70s???
.
The Cave.
cosmosis the shodan: Why is Big Time liar suddenly so quiet and why is Lyin Liz the designated liar this time around?
He's more loathed every time he goes out in public.
~
Pretty much everything that we've speculated about them doing it turns out they've done.
I guarantee you: when the full truth comes out, even the worst we expected will be small potatoes to the reality.
Dylan, mid 70s???
tangled up in jews
i think Liz was moving for a public position regardless of Dick's doings. if you look at her resume, its clear she wasnt going to be in a Democratic government.
Pretty much everything that we've speculated about them doing it turns out they've done.
So, what will come of this?
I've learned to not get my hopes up.
An awful lot depends who still has copies of the files. Deadeye Dick Cheney isn't acting as confident as I'd expect him to be if he had a set.
emptywheel suggests:
Siobhan Gorman reports that the secret program that Leon Panetta just revealed to Congress is an assassination squad.
hed be acting confident even if he was screwed though.
What do you bet that eventually a list of intended targets will be unearthed for this program "which never got off the ground."
we knew about the assassination squads awhile ago though. this confirms it i guess.
When did Cheeney's pet project start? Before 9/11 and it is domestic spying on everyone.
cosmosis the shodan: Why is Big Time liar suddenly so quiet and why is Lyin Liz the designated liar this time around?
He's more loathed every time he goes out in public.
~
Meander
Please please please make it be that Cheney is afraid of a citizen's arrest!!11!
These are tv shows are funny but read this:
I DREAM OF GENIE
MEDINA, Saudi Arabia, July 13 (UPI) -- A family in Saudi Arabia has filed
a lawsuit alleging theft and harassment on the part of a malevolent genie. Officials with the Islamic Shariah court said the family alleges a genie has been leaving them threatening voice mail messages, stealing their cell phones and throwing rocks at them outside their home, CNN reported Monday.
The head of the family, who asked not to be named, said the family has occupied their home on the outskirts of Medina for 15 years and first became aware of the genie about two years ago. "We began hearing strange noises," he said. "In the beginning, we didn't take it seriously, but after that, stranger things started happening and the children got really scared when the genie began throwing stones." The family has been given temporary lodgings by
a local charity while the court investigates the allegations.
Larry Hagman had the same problem.
The program had to do with reading U.S. e-mail. That's it. You read it here first.
Total Information Awareness. Shut down by Congress but revived by Cheney.
-
When did Cheeney's pet project start? Before 9/11 and it is domestic spying on everyone.
cosmosis the shodan | 07.13.09 - 4:52 pm | #
a lot of fucking good it did.
my dream: Obama and Holder have a secret meeting with bipartisan congressional leadership, tell them that Cheney was illegally gathering blackmail information on US representative BOTH puke and dem, and tell them they have canceled the program and have the data secured.
And then walk out.
Senator Whitehouse's is a thing of beauty. Here's just a short excerpt:
It is fair to inquire into a nominee's judicial philosophy, and we will have serious and fair inquiry. But the pretense that Republican nominees embody modesty and restraint, or that Democratic nominees must be activists, runs counter to recent history. I particularly reject the analogy of a judge to an "umpire" who merely calls "balls and strikes." If judging were that mechanical, we wouldn't need nine Supreme Court Justices. The task of an appellate judge, particularly on a court of final appeal, is often to define the strike zone, within a matrix of Constitutional principle, legislative intent, and statutory construction.
The "umpire" analogy is belied by Chief Justice Roberts, though he cast himself as an "umpire" during his confirmation hearings. Jeffrey Toobin, a well-respected legal commentator, has recently reported that "[i]n every major case since he became the nation's seventeenth Chief Justice, Roberts has sided with the prosecution over the defendant, the state over the condemned, the executive branch over the legislative, and the corporate defendant over the individual plaintiff." Some umpire. And is it a coincidence that this pattern, to continue Toobin's quote, "has served the interests, and reflected the values of the contemporary Republican party"? Some coincidence.
For all the talk of "modesty" and "restraint," the right wing Justices of the Court have a striking record of ignoring precedent, overturning congressional statutes, limiting constitutional protections, and discovering new constitutional rights: the infamous Ledbetter decision, for instance; the Louisville and Seattle integration cases, for example; the first limitation on Roe v. Wade that outright disregards the woman's health and safety; and the DC Heller decision, discovering a constitutional right to own guns that the Court had not previously noticed in 220 years. Over and over, news reporting discusses "fundamental changes in the law" wrought by the Roberts Court's right wing flank. The Roberts Court has not lived up to the promises of modesty or humility made when President Bush nominated Justices Roberts and Alito. Some "balls and strikes."
So, Judge Sotomayor, I'd like to avoid codewords, and look for a simple pledge: that you will decide cases on the law and the facts; that you will respect the role of Congress as representatives of the American people; that you will not prejudge any case, but listen to every party that comes before you; and that you will respect precedent and limit yourself to the issues that the Court must decide; in short, that you will use the broad discretion of a Supreme Court Justice wisely and in keeping with the Constitution.
Please please please make it be that Cheney is afraid of a citizen's arrest!!11!
ellroon, smolderingwreckian |
Citizen's Arrreaaast!
What do you bet that eventually a list of intended targets will be unearthed for this program "which never got off the ground."
Neponset
Remember during the anthrax attacks the odd number of neuroscientists / biologists dying?
Quickie Drive-by in New Jersey!
I hope to see some of you tomorrow in person.
Total Information Awareness. Shut down by Congress but revived by Cheney.
i said at the time that adm poindexter would not go quietly into that good night. and yet, no one has heard anything about him.
i wonder...
The FBI is a domestic spy outfit, now? I thought that sort of thing was done by the NSA out of Ft. Meade, MD.
no TIA is up and running.
well counter-spy.
It never got off the ground but Panetta shut it down in 2009.
Riiiiiiight.
Leibniz you still alive? That"s good. A lot of people here were worried about you.
I hope to see some of you tomorrow in person.
Marcellina |
Philly next Tuesday?
.
Roswell! Roswell! Roswell!
I've said for years that they spied on the Kerry campaign, Senators, Congress critters, and the media.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Gene Lyons told a story of Arlen Specter telling Lyons about his visitor from England; when he arrived, how long he stayed, where he and Lyons visited while he was here.
Lyons was stunned. Specter was non-plussed. I guess the problem would be the CIA doing it, instead of the NSA, or some other intelligence agency.
I guarantee you: when the full truth comes out, even the worst we expected will be small potatoes to the reality.
If the past is prologue, this is the truth.
I was always suspicious of the idea that Pindexter et al meekly abandoned TIA.
"I Dream of Jihad"
Domestic surveillance is much more likely.
That "we just wanted to assassinate Al Queda leaders" is lame -- of course they wanted to, what would be the big deal about keeping that secret from Congress? No one would have objected or blabbed (except maybe Orin Hatch).
A.O., a few of them tomorrowfirst , but Yes!
Winner!
I guarantee you: when the full truth comes out, even the worst we expected will be small potatoes to the reality.
I think this only proves my point.
Hi Marcellina,
More time in the hospital. But at least I now am walking about and somewhat cognitively intact.
McCain: who among us hasn’t run the
occasional gang of ruthless murderers?
Gregory: does it bother you that Congress
didn’t know?
McCain: well you know the head of the CIA
probably didn’t know either
******
Weird keyboard, the split kind.
OK, time to go swimming. Later peeps!
hey, marcellina. it's only a 12 hour drive...
Tags..(shakes fist)
Winner!
slartibartfast, sorting
i can't believe no one cheered "stone eli"
i dont get Stone Eli
i dont get Stone Eli
euphronius failure | 07.13.09 - 4:58 pm | #
eli stone
Why would they keep killing al Qaeda secret.
Well, if they killed bin laden, they'd lose an excuse to invade iraq.
9-11 9-11 9-11
Mme. Wagstaff and I saw Stacy Keach as Lear on Saturday, which was overwhelming.
And James Cromwell was in the row behind us.
Leave it to Omar
Afternoon peeps...
eli stone
dirk gently |
I still don't 'get it'?
.
I would love to go on with Liz Cheney.
Liz, your father was an incompetent fool who ignored the warnings from the CIA that Bin Laden was the biggest threat to our country. As a result of his lazy asleep at the wheel attitude 3000 Americans were killed. So spare me all this crap about how your father kept us safe.
Your father obsession about Iraq leaves American blood on his hands.
Stacy Keatch can be seen tonight on the truly god awful NBC miniseries Meteor. Which incredibly is much worse than a wretched meteor movie on ABC a few ago.
I still don't 'get it'?
then i guess it isn't funny. it was in response to "mad about jews"
see, eli is a jewish name and there is a show named eli stone and stoning is a form of ...
oh, never mind.
it sucked.
i'm too wry and subtle for this crowd, i guess.
Stacy Keatch can be seen tonight on the truly god awful NBC miniseries Meteor. Which incredibly is much worse than a wretched meteor movie on ABC a few ago.
smarty jones |
Meteors don't reach the ground...it should be Meteorite.
.
i'm too wry and subtle for this crowd, i guess.
dirk gently |
Jewish rye I'd get!
.
...Golan Heights 90210...meh.
Just a drive-by, folks, but I couldn't resist a blogwhore given the thread.
What is also frightening is that for at least six months, NOBODY knew about the CIA program, not the new administration and not the new Director.
There was absolutely NO oversight.
Behead of the Class
Meteors don't reach the ground...it should be Meteorite.
.
Agent Orange
don't be silly... these movies always end with a space flight to blow up the suckas!
Verizon Cow is infringing upon my gravatar!
Mr/s. Cow, kindly provide your name and address where you can be served with the federal district court lawsuit.
Tks in advance.
leibniz, do you have any pain?
Jewish rye I'd get!
give me ham on five - hold the mayo
Technically, it hasn't reached the ground yet.
Though, technically, it hasn't entered the earth's atmosphere yet; so it isn't a meteor either.
Though, technically, it hasn't entered the earth's atmosphere yet; so it isn't a meteor either.
Snow (D-SC) | Homepage | 07.13.09 - 5:05 pm | #
space rock!
Where's A man today? I guess the battery died on Atrios' GPS ankle bracelet.
.
Though, technically, it hasn't entered the earth's atmosphere yet; so it isn't a meteor either.
Snow (D-SC) | Homepage | 07.13.09 - 5:05 pm | #
The correct term then is meteoroid.
Thank you.
.
happy sheets
sheetz
I would love to go on with Liz Cheney.
Liz, your father was an incompetent fool who ignored the warnings from the CIA that Bin Laden was the biggest threat to our country. As a result of his lazy asleep at the wheel attitude 3000 Americans were killed. So spare me all this crap about how your father kept us safe.
Your father obsession about Iraq leaves American blood on his hands.
sally
Her father lied continously to take the country to war and then committed crimes to cover up those lies.
conspiracy, obstruction of justice and abuse of power - to name but a few.
He's a criminal. The Ds should have impeached!!
Continuously!
"I've said for years that they spied on the Kerry campaign, Senators, Congress critters, and the media."
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
And after all the drama, they got nuttin.'
Entifada Knows Best
followed by;
Kheff Troop
9, 8 Central time...
Think about it, Cheney knows which program all the fuss is about. Did he tell Liz before she started spouting off. If not why does she get any more credibility from the media than I do?
"But their theory gibes with other reports, quoting ex-CIA officials, that say the program had to do with intelligence collection, not assassinations."
i.e. the CIA made up the lists and the death squads over at the Joint Special Operations Command used them. And Cheney oversaw it all.
Paul Wellstone
Which plan?
Hasn't everyone figured out that there is more than TWO (2) plans?
I liked the comments today - really, the plan never got past the planning stage, honest. (Which plan?)
Yet, GOP official admit it was illegal (oh, that other plan?)
Indeed, Paul Wellstone.
Characters Remaining:
Commenting by HaloScan
