I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

yo


Gravatarsurely I'm not first


Gravatarindeed I was not


Gravatarsorry virgo


GravatarI'm handling it


GravatarWhere's the stinkin' youtube video, man?!


GravatarIt's only 9:15, barely late evening.


GravatarWould it kill Atrios to refill the snack bowl?


GravatarConason, via Digby:

Why otherwise would the campaign press corps have demanded the Clinton tax returns while nobody insists that McCain release the returns filed by him and his beer heiress wife, Cindy? When the Arizona Republican releases his 2007 return, as he has done today, will anyone urge him to cough up returns from previous years, as the Clintons did? It is an act of transparency that he has neglected to fulfill for the past quarter-century of his public service, without a peep from his press fans (despite the precedent of his wife's highly questionable shopping-mall investment with savings and loan crook Charles Keating).

And having raked Bill Clinton's charitable foundation for evidence of conflicts of interest, when will the press corps take another look at McCain’s "Reform Institute," the nonprofit think tank that has served as a soft-money conduit and cushy sinecure for his political advisors?

Will anyone ask McCain why he doesn't wear an American flag pin, the burning question that the ABC anchors pressed on Obama? Perhaps the former POW deserves a pass on that issue, but it is interesting to note that photos of McCain with a flag pin are very scarce -- which may simply prove that not every patriot must constantly sport Old Glory on his lapel.

It would be refreshing to place the likes of Gibson and Stephanopoulos and their peers on the witness stand for a change to explain their choices and prejudices. Why did they require Democrats to make tax-cutting pledges that are based on bad economics and worse journalism? Why should they focus on Obama's tenuous connection with a reprehensible but inconsequential figure like former Weatherman Bill Ayers, when they have never mentioned the White House coddling of Cuban exile terrorists? Why do they obsess over the "bitter" gaffe by Obama while passing so lightly over the confusion of Sunni and Shia groups by McCain, supposed master of foreign policy?

Details may be different but the double standard remains the same. If the coverage of this election already induces a nauseating sense of déjà vu, be warned. It will only get worse.


GravatarWould it kill Atrios to refill the snack bowl?

It's still 3/4 full. There are only seven people here.


GravatarIt is so not late night.

Oh- 6:30 AM wake-up call has it's cost!

Young kids just can't hack it!


GravatarSciFi Movie. WWII Women Air Corp ferrying  bomber in the Pacific, with an all woman crew, male supercargo and a MYSTERIOUS cargo.

Land on an island full of dinosaurs and Japanese soldiers.

Hijinx Ensue!

No hot woman scientist. Likely 0% boobage. Lots of eatage more than likely.

MYSTERIOUS cargo, probably an A-Bomb.


GravatarHere's one.

And, here's another one.


GravatarGowan - Moonlight desires
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E...h? v=Elbpw3d2qEk

Featuring Jon "Yes" Anderson.


GravatarNot late here!


GravatarSnack bowel, why?

I just ate a WattaBurger with jalapenos.


GravatarHi Sallyh!


Gravatar"...Details may be different but the double standard remains the same. If the coverage of this election already induces a nauseating sense of déjà vu, be warned. It will only get worse." --Digby
--SteveLG

She's right about the media, I'm hoping/thinking the voters aren't buying it this time around.


GravatarGAHHHH


I come into
the party and get Gowan


Kim Mitchell, as apybak

http://youtube.com/watch?v=s4DYEVvuB7o


GravatarWASHINGTON — Nancy Larson’s most difficult conversation was, by far, the one with Chelsea Clinton.

“It was just heartbreaking,” said Mrs. Larson, a Democratic National Committee member from Minnesota and more to the point, a superdelegate who had initially pledged herself to Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton. This was last Saturday, after the former first daughter learned that Mrs. Larson would be shifting her allegiance to Senator Barack Obama.

“She is a delightful young woman who loves her mother very much,” Mrs. Larson said. “She was really pushing me. She kept asking me why I was doing this. She just kept asking, ‘Why? Why?’ ”


because your parents are craven assholes?


Gravatar to Sallyh and GWPDA. And, well, everyone else.


GravatarEvening, peeps.

I'd like some vinegar and sea salt flavored chips.


GravatarGood ... evening? I haven't even had dinner yet.


GravatarShe's right about the media, I'm hoping/thinking the voters aren't buying it this time around.
mer |


The quote is actually Joe Conason, but I'm inclined to agree that people have, in great numbers, started to understand that they're being lied to not only by their government, but by its media lapdogs.

McCain is in for a long, hot summer, lasting all the way into November, I believe.


GravatarI've got hot coffee, with whiskey, raw sugar, and chilis in it.


GravatarKim Mitchell? That's just mean.


Gravatar“She was really pushing me. She kept asking me why I was doing this. She just kept asking, ‘Why? Why?’ ”

Pretty scummy and desperate to have Hillary's daughter begging superdelegates.


GravatarI've got hot coffee, with whiskey, raw sugar, and chilis in it.
Doug, cholla jumper


I'd like to make you my god. Is that okay?


GravatarThe third King Kong is on one of the movie channels. It hasn't really grabbed me.


GravatarHabs are winning! Barely.


GravatarJUST consider yourself lucky I didn't break out Loverboy or Glass tiger


GravatarGowan is now the lead singer of Styx.


Gravatarand is called "Lawrence"


GravatarPretty scummy and desperate to have Hillary's daughter begging superdelegates.
puppethead


She's a grownup. She should be able to handle it, if that's her choice.


GravatarI'm listening (for the first time) to a Philly rapper called Slo-Mo.

He plays lap steel. Sorta unusual in a rapper.


GravatarStaying classy:

On his train tour Saturday, Senator Obama continued to condemn the petty distractions that keep Americans from focusing on real issues. He decried Clinton's "tactics of Washington," in which she attacks him with every possible weapon. "She's got the kitchen sink flying, the china flying. The buffet is coming at me…when we get involved in the constant distractions the petty tit for tat politics…that may be good for the television ratings, but that's not good for you."

While the candidate was denouncing the distractions, his aides were promoting them. Three veterans of the Bosnia conflict joined for a conference call to explain just how crucial this particular distraction was, and why we should ignore Senator Obama's guidance and get obsessed with this issue.

Major General Walter Stewart explained that because Clinton had fabricated on the issue of sniper fire, Clinton would not be able to perform the traditional ceremony at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier who, he averred, was undoubtedly killed by sniper fire. "She will lack the moral authority to lay the wreath on Memorial Day," he said. She would also be unable to honor the veterans remembered on the Vietnam memorial because many of them had also been killed by sniper fire. Captain Aaron Clevenstine offered a variation on this theme: "As someone who trained snipers, I take offense to the notion that she was under sniper fire." Michael Kotyk, a retired veteran of the Navy broadened the significance of Clinton's yarn: "We've had 8 years of dishonor. We need honor. If you're going to tell stories then you're not displaying honor."
http://www.slate.com/id/2189485/


GravatarOh crap, it's tied again.

Olexicon, I saw Max Webster play approximately 1,349 times in my youth. I didn't mind so much.


GravatarIt's like comparing cumquats and bananas..


GravatarHabs are winning! Barely.
Ali, now a habs fan


I thought the scorewas 2-2.


GravatarGowan is now the lead singer of Styx.

DeYoung has that weird light sensitivity ailment, IIRC...


GravatarI love jazz, but singers like Tony Bennett and Sinatra leave me cold. Give me Karrin Allyson or Shemekia Copeland any day.

(OK, maybe it's the gender).

Karrin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k...h? v=kXVWtePwWyE

Shemekia:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h...h? v=hVMGAqrK514


GravatarWell, even I will admit i like "go for a soda"


GravatarShe's a grownup. She should be able to handle it, if that's her choice.
SteveLG


Not talking about Chelsea. Scummy to use her to prey on the emotions of the superdelegates.


GravatarI am not a white-slave marketeer!...

It would appear that some of the Amazon reviewers are possibly more interesting than most of the books they sell over there.

{FYI/FWIW, stumbled across this while looking over the works of the folks who write for eXile.ru. The 'War Nerd' is coming out with a book in June, dontchaknow!}


GravatarI'd like to make you my god. Is that okay?

I don't know, do I have to do tricks(miracles) for this honor?

I'm happier with small miracles like this:
http://thumbsnap.com/v/7QE8Yc8E.jpg


GravatarRepodwhore: tonight's Paxcast.


Gravatar3-3 now, Shaw. Goals are happening quickly here.


GravatarNo to the Patio Lanterns, though.


GravatarHey Cougarhutch, how goes it?


Gravatar
DeYoung has that weird light sensitivity ailment, IIRC...


If I recall correctly, he did want to rejoin the band at some point, but they turned him down.


GravatarI don't know, do I have to do tricks(miracles) for this honor?

I'm happier with small miracles like this:
http://thumbsnap.com/v/7QE8Yc8E.jpg
Doug, cholla jumper


Actually, those small "miracles" are what keeps me "clinging" to life instead of becoming "bitter."

*bows before Dougchollajumper, god of cacti*


Gravataragreed


now I gotta go take pictures at the MJHL/SJHL playoff for atrip to the RBC royal Bank Cup


GravatarGromit, I'm partial to jazz guitar (acoustic).


GravatarDetails may be different but the double standard remains the same. If the coverage of this election already induces a nauseating sense of déjà vu, be warned. It will only get worse.
SteveLG

BUT, THE RULZ FOR LIBRULZ ARE DIFFERENT!!! - MSM


GravatarThe advantage of seeing how craven the press is this early? Lots of opportunities when the nets and cabloids send their 'election battlebuses' out from the confines of the studio to tell them that they're in the tank.


Gravatar Scummy to use her to prey on the emotions of the superdelegates.
puppethead


Yeah, maybe... it's pretty far down on my list of Clinton campaign atrocities this year.


GravatarNice.

G'night.


Gravatar
If I recall correctly, he did want to rejoin the band at some point, but they turned him down.


Wasn't there a lawsuit or something?


GravatarMichael Kotyk, a retired veteran of the Navy broadened the significance of Clinton's yarn: "We've had 8 years of dishonor. We need honor. If you're going to tell stories, then you're not displaying honor."

hadenough

She was lying for the Greater Good.


GravatarI like islands.


GravatarI hate Jazz.


GravatarNTodd, has anyone fetched you an eclair today?


GravatarSallyh, if things were any better I'd be incarcerated.


GravatarJazz makes me grind my teeth.


GravatarI sleep on my tummy. Hugging a down pillow.


GravatarI'm happier with small miracles like this:
http://thumbsnap.com/v/7QE8Yc8E.jpg


Plant erotica. Pushing, pushing into the fingers of the hot yellow sun. Opening, opening, opening.


GravatarFetch me my dildo, woman!!


GravatarFrom wikipedia...

Two years later, in 1999, the band released its first new studio album in almost a decade: Brave New World. The album received a lukewarm reception, sold very slowly, and the single, "Everything Is Cool", failed to chart.

Once again, during work on the album, personality conflicts drove the band members apart. While Tommy Shaw and James Young's material followed a hard rock vein, Dennis DeYoung's penchant for Broadway styles infuriated his bandmates, and the dramatic differences in styles were evident on Brave New World.

Arguments over which songs to release as singles, the album's artwork, the track sequencing, and the omission of DeYoung's vocals and keyboards from many of the Shaw/JY tracks fueled the fire. The band was further hindered by a viral illness contracted by DeYoung which temporarily made his eyes sensitive to light. DeYoung asked his bandmates to delay touring.

Chuck Panozzo left the band in 1998 after revealing to his bandmates that he was gay and battling HIV. His public explanation came in 2001 at the annual Human Rights Campaign banquet.

Later that year, DeYoung was permanently replaced by Lawrence Gowan, though no official statement regarding a firing or replacement had been made. As a result of the replacement, DeYoung filed a lawsuit, charging that the remaining members of the band were using the Styx name without his consent, and he in turn was countersued by Shaw & JY for using the billing of "Dennis DeYoung, the voice of Styx" in his solo concerts. The suit was eventually settled on the grounds that DeYoung could bill himself as "performing the music of Styx" or "formerly of Styx", but not as "the voice of Styx", and Styx continued on with Shaw & JY at the helm.


GravatarPlant erotica. Pushing, pushing into the fingers of the hot yellow sun. Opening, opening, opening.
Echidne |

You're making me hot...


GravatarGromit, I'm partial to jazz guitar (acoustic).
Sallyh


Jeff Linsky is one of my faves, along with Charlie Byrd o'course. Earl Klugh can be great, if he's not overproduced, with syrupy strings and synths. Good music to work to.


GravatarNot talking about Chelsea. Scummy to use her to prey on the emotions of the superdelegates.
puppethead


Why don't they use more cold, hard cash, like Obama does? $600K and counting....


GravatarCosmic, I prefer tropical islands.  The kind with great beaches and crystal clear water.

I'm spoiled.


GravatarPlant erotica. Pushing, pushing into the fingers of the hot yellow sun. Opening, opening, opening.
Echidne |

You're making me hot...
Duane V, Bitter Classist


April is Poetry Month. Let's all get hot.


GravatarJohnny Hates Jazz.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V...h? v=VRHLkLFJxaw

*!Caution!*

80's earworm.


GravatarYou're making me hot...
Duane V, Bitter Classist




GravatarCosmic, I prefer tropical islands. The kind with great beaches and crystal clear water.

I'm spoiled.

Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere


That's where I am.


GravatarJazz makes me grind my teeth.
Ali


Most jazz does the same to Dr Mrs Gromit. It can be hard to find music we both like that isn't boring as hell.


GravatarCosmic, I hate you


GravatarWhy don't they use more cold, hard cash, like Obama does? $600K and counting....
Susie from Philly | Homepage | 04.19.08 - 9:39 pm | #


He's the tool of the million plus special interests who contributed.


GravatarGromit, is Dr. Mrs. Gromit on call tonight?


GravatarPlant erotica. Pushing, pushing into the fingers of the hot yellow sun. Opening, opening, opening

my little grass seeds are pushing up in the bald spots. nice to see them.

Funny how parallel they rise. They hit the ground at whatever angle, yet they respond to their space in the same way.

sun angle I guess.


GravatarWhy don't they use more cold, hard cash, like Obama does? $600K and counting....
Susie from Philly


Because they don't have it.

That was easy.


GravatarThere's jazz that doesn't make the teeth hurt. Stomach-sawing jazz, for instance.


GravatarCosmic, I hate you
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere


But, I love you, even from here.


GravatarThat's where I am

fukker


Gravatar olexicon, | 04.19.08 - 9:25 pm |

Fuck, olexicon...that made me SO happy! I loved Max Webster.


Gravatar"She was lying for the Greater Good.
Duane V, Bitter Classist"

Classy.


GravatarWhy don't they use more cold, hard cash, like Obama does?

Because we know she already has been?

I'm fascinated by the Hillary supporters who are so clearly displaying cognitive dissonance. It seems like there isn't a single thing she does wrong, ever. There's always a rationalization for it or an attack on Obama.


GravatarThere's jazz that doesn't make the teeth hurt. Stomach-sawing jazz, for instance.
Echidne


It's good to have options.


GravatarA lizard just peed on my keyboard. This is not good.


GravatarThere's jazz that doesn't make the teeth hurt. Stomach-sawing jazz, for instance.
Echidne | Homepage | 04.19.08 - 9:42 pm | #


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z...h? v=ZO1uMjz3n3w


GravatarI was doing some garden cleaning today. Found a drowned mouse inside the watering can. Very sad.


GravatarNTodd, has anyone fetched you an eclair today?

No, all the anti-sexist bitches have been holding out.


GravatarNow it's 4-4. I can't handle the anxiety!


Gravatar"I'm inclined to agree that people have, in great numbers, started to understand that they're being lied to not only by their government, but by its media lapdogs."

You have a great more deal of faith in the American people than I do.

I think we're stupid enough to put McSame into the White House because we put Chimpy there twice. We are too stupid to learn from our mistakes.

We are a nation of dumb fucks and we will get what's coming to us. Economic, environmental and social collapse, disaster in Iraq, even another 9-11.

We asked for it. We tortured and murdered and raped.

Maybe in a warped twisted way Robertson was right...we ARE being punished by God. But we are being punished for the sins of the right, not the left.

The Repukes won't be happy until they have completely destroyed the US.


Gravatarhere's the one with better sound
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f...h? v=fDGRMQ8xKPA


GravatarApril is Poetry Month. Let's all get hot.

One of my favorites.


Gravatarsun angle I guess.

I love watching timelapse video of sprouting seedlings. It make them seem like sentient beings.


GravatarGromit, is Dr. Mrs. Gromit on call tonight?
Sallyh


Nope, she's sittin' right here reading. Were you hoping I could slip out?


GravatarA lizard just peed on my keyboard. This is not good.

Pet or wild?


GravatarOh crap. Bruins scored again.


GravatarGromit, nah, Monsieur will be home in ~4 hours.


GravatarI've been collecting wild flower seeds from all over this area, both by collecting them, and looking for places that will sell them to you. The idea is to increase the number of desert wildflowers that grow in my yard, for the parts of it that I'll leave wild. The rest? I'm planning some more patio space with a combo of shaded and sunny areas. There I'll be growing more traditional garden plants like roses. But in pots or in holes in the pavement. (I'm pouring my own pavers, so it's not to difficult to make a hole or to fill one in.)


GravatarA lizard just peed on my keyboard. This is not good.

Pet or wild?
Tlazolteotl


Wild. It was hanging overhead. Currently there is much commotion as my wife is running for a hairdryer.


GravatarHey, does Steely Dan count as jazz? Because what Danny Diaz (sic) plays on "Your Gold Teeth" is from beyond.


GravatarWere you hoping I could slip out?

No flirting!!


GravatarAli, I hate to tell you this, but I earned my grad degrees at UCLA.

Go Bruins


GravatarI still love you all, even though you hate jazz. Some of my best friends are Philistines.


GravatarSallyh, but you didn't go to school in Boston, right?

So it's ok.


GravatarNTodd, have a fucking eclair.

Now you can't call me a sexist bitch


Gravatarhere's the one with better sound
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f...h? v=fDGRMQ8xKPA


This is neither tooth-drilling or stomach-sawing. But it fills up the upper body only. Still good.


GravatarA lizard just peed on my keyboard.

I think that's their way of being friendly.


GravatarAli, undergrad at Boston College.  Go Eagles


GravatarHadenough has convinced me
through cold hard logic
Obama is satan
and HRC is The One.
I left a cup of wine out for her at the doorway this evening.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q...h?v=qhK- zYfFsIY


GravatarJazz guitar? Martin Taylor for me... all else is commentary.

Here's two minutes of him putting I Got Rythym together... first the melody, then the bass line, then the chords, then all together for a few delicious moments.

For a complete song, here's Georgia On My Mind.


GravatarIt seems like there isn't a single thing she does wrong, ever. There's always a rationalization for it or an attack on Obama.
puppethead

Well, the end would have justified the means, if she won...


GravatarAh, crap. The Habs seem to be part of the conspiracy to ensure no Canadian team gets past round one.


GravatarIt was about 88F in the desert early this morning, and the lizards were zipping around. They don't move much till it gets hot.


GravatarWhen Boosh flips the bird, it's at the press, and they enjoy it, so they keep it in teh closet so to speak.
-


GravatarWell, pseudo, they can win it at home now. Trying to be positive here.


GravatarI love watching timelapse video of sprouting seedlings. It make them seem like sentient beings.
Mr French

They are..


GravatarI'm fascinated by the Hillary supporters who are so clearly displaying cognitive dissonance. It seems like there isn't a single thing she does wrong, ever. There's always a rationalization for it or an attack on Obama.

Why can't you stick with criticizing the campaigns instead of targeting the voters?


Gravatarserious. This Slo-Mo stuff is great.

http://www.heyslomo.com/


GravatarHey, does Steely Dan count as jazz?

It's definitely the jazzier and funkier side of pop. A lot of Becker's solos are very jazz-inspired.

IMO, much of the very best modern music draws from several traditions. My favorite piano music to play is by Hal Isbitz. The style is called 'Terra Verde", and it's a mix of ragtime, tango, Gottschalk, and Chopin, if you can imagine such a thing. Gorgeous rhythms and sounds. I'll go look for a link. BRB.


Gravatar"It's important not to over - correct, 'cause when you over - correct, you end up in the ditch.." - Mensa Man


GravatarHere is some jazz that will get you right in your first few chakras:

http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=3...feature=related


GravatarI'm fascinated by the Hillary supporters who are so clearly displaying cognitive dissonance. It seems like there isn't a single thing she does wrong, ever. There's always a rationalization for it or an attack on Obama.

Actually, that is not cognitive dissonance, although I agree with most of your post.


GravatarA new Government Accountability Office opinion released yesterday finds that the Bush administration “violated federal law last year when it restricted states’ ability to provide health insurance to children of middle-income families, and its new policy is therefore unenforceable.” Twenty-two states already provide such coverage or want to do so, and several states have filed lawsuits challenging the Bush administration’s rules.

The next president will deal with it.


GravatarWhen Boosh flips the bird, it's at the press, and they enjoy it, so they keep it in teh closet so to speak.
-
QuentinCompson, Negatory


Makes me want to have a beer with him. And barbecue, don't forget the barbecue..Snort a few lines, maybe...


Gravatarhttp://allintense.blogspot.com/


Gravatar"Challah if ya hear me!" - Jewpac Shakur


GravatarDid I miss anything?


GravatarWhen Boosh flips the bird, it's at the press, and they enjoy it, so they keep it in teh closet so to speak.

Fuck that. They're all over Obama for it, and he didn't even flip it.

Fuck the press whores and their double standard.


GravatarHecate! You have mail...


Gravatar
This is neither tooth-drilling or stomach-sawing. But it fills up the upper body only. Still good.
Echidne | Homepage | 04.19.08 - 9:48 pm | #


that's why there are different kinds of music. Sometimes we want to take the A-train
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T...h? v=Tjc7mu9leYw
and sometimes we want do take the mothership.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7...h? v=7fdesO8CdC8


GravatarManny Ramirez


Gravatar"Hadenough has convinced me
through cold hard logic
Obama is satan
and HRC is The One.
rootless-e"

It was when I typed in "classy" wasn't it? I thought so.


GravatarDid I miss anything?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


Martin Taylor playing They Can't Take That Away From Me.


GravatarWell, the end would have justified the means, if she won...
Duane V, Bitter Classist


I don't believe that. She lessens her character by doing this, or reveals her true nature. But if she does win she'll be a better president than any Republican. I think the reason I hate how she campaigns is because I thought more of her until I saw this. Idols with feet of clay and all that.

And for the record, I feel there are plenty of rabid Obama supporters who have the same problem of never seeing his faults.


GravatarIt was when I typed in "classy" wasn't it? I thought so.
hadenough

It was because you used quotation marks. That imparts meaning.


GravatarIt was when I typed in "classy" wasn't it? I thought so.
hadenough | 04.19.08 - 9:58 pm | #


I'm wondering if it was the 3 extra rounds of passover wine. A nice pinot noir. Baruch ha-shem.


GravatarAnd for the record, I feel there are plenty of rabid Obama supporters who have the same problem of never seeing his faults.
puppethead

I was being ironical.


GravatarMy friend Christian is a jazz guitarist...

http://cdbaby.com/cd/christianpschorr


GravatarNTodd,

Thanks! That looks interesting!


GravatarHere's a link to the bit on NPR that turned me on to the music of Hal Isbitz.

http://www.npr.org/templates/sto...p? saId=13618198

Stopped me in my tracks. What was very cool is that to get the music, you have to call or email Hal at his home in Santa Barbara, since he self-publishes. Felt like I was buying manuscripts directly from Beethoven.

This is the Amazon link for my favorite album, the only recording of Isbitz' work that I know of.

http://www.amazon.com/Blue-Garde...z/dp/ B00000DG2V


GravatarJust returned from a weekend visiting relatives in SW Pa. In that area Hillary will stomp Obama! It is a possibility that Hillary will win Pa. with at least a 20% edge.


GravatarIt is a possibility that Hillary will win Pa. with at least a 20% edge.

No way.


GravatarDude, It's Saturday night; if you just returned, you didn't spend a weekend.


GravatarHecate--I have a tulip question. Do you remember I had that lovely volunteer last year? You advised me to dig it up and replant it. Of course, I didn't. Now, it seems to have migrated about half a foot over the winter. It's coming up under a fence plank. Can I dig it up and move it now or is it all lost???


GravatarThat's nice, Bugs. The adults are talking, so why don't you go play outside?


GravatarI didn't know Manischewitz made Pinot Noir.


GravatarFriday & Sat.


GravatarI work sundays


GravatarDing Dong, the Wicked Witch!


GravatarOh man, I keep forgetting to buy some Passover Coke, with real sugar.


GravatarI didn't know Manischewitz made Pinot Noir.



GravatarMy friend Christian is a jazz guitarist...


whiskeyina


wow.


My friend Jazz is a Christian guitarist..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=- ...feature=related


GravatarIf Obama* loses a close one in PA this Tuesday, what will the spin be on Wednesday?









*Florida and Michigan not included.


GravatarReggae Got Soul.


GravatarKosher Alcohol


Gravatar Can I dig it up and move it now or is it all lost???


I'd wait until after it blooms. After that, if you dig the hole for it first and then just plop it straight it, it should be ok.


GravatarIf Obama* loses a close one in PA this Tuesday, what will the spin be on Wednesday?

Hm. I don't know. Who will have the most convention delegates then?


GravatarHey, kids--we're having a politics-free evening tonight. Let's give it a rest for a while, ok?


GravatarI didn't know Manischewitz made Pinot Noir.
HULK | 04.19.08 - 10:04 pm | #

The kiwi flavored pinot-noir is excellent.


GravatarDing Dong, the Wicked Witch!
Elias

Leave poor Hillary alone.


GravatarOK, outside of drinking kumis with hamburger, how can alcohol *not* be kosher?


Gravatar"New data from the Pew Research Center illustrates my point: although Hillary Clinton leads McCain among white women by three points, she trails among white men by twenty-three points. Meanwhile, Obama trails among white women by just one point, and trails among white men by fifteen. Obama's net margin relative to Clinton drops by four points among white women, but increases by eight points among white men."

I was trying to use this information to support my contention that Obama's gaining support among the white working class voters.
Duane V, Bitter Classist | 04.19.08 - 8:23 pm


http://people-press.org/reports/...rts/pdf/ 407.pdf


Right, but this and the bits of other data at the other links are for 'men' or 'whites' or 'white men', and even that would include a large number of non-workingclass white men, obviously, thereby potentially skewing because of Obama's high numbers with the well-to-do, the well-educated etc.

That's what Judis was analyzing, mostly, in that article.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/ op...70_obama20.html

That said, I would not be surprised if he were gaining ground with the group, but also ebbing and back etc., which may be a significant component in that Gallup switchback in Dem support, 46-45 Clinton, first since mid-March.
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Gravatarh5 f632s,

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GravatarDing Dong, the Wicked Witch!
Elias

Leave poor Hillary alone.


It's hysterical to use someone's religion as a slur! What a great joke!


Gravatarnobody plays it like Blind Willie Dunn could play it.


GravatarI keep forgetting to buy some Passover Coke, with real sugar.

Have to buy Mexican Coca-Cola to get real sugar.

Convenience stores here have it by the bottle. Costco has it by the case.


GravatarBusy, but incoherent, thread tonight. Thank god, no cat chat.


GravatarIt's hysterical to use someone's religion as a slur! What a great joke!

"Hysterical"? That means you're sexist!


GravatarHm. I don't know. Who will have the most convention delegates then?
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Ah, looks like without Michigan and Florida, neither Obama* or Clinton will have enough.



*Michigan and Florida not included.


GravatarHey Elias, I'm going to see Michael Franti tomorrow!


Gravatarwe're having a politics-free evening tonight.

Wanna talk about books? I just finished reading a creepy as hell novel from the '70s about a serial killer, By Reason of Insanity.

And I'm almost through Bourdieu's "Distinction".


GravatarI keep hearing about this real sugar cane Coke, but I've never seen it.


GravatarGood night for Boston fans:
Bruins beat Habs 5-4
Red Sox beat Texas 5-3
Yankees losing to the Mighty Orioles 6-0.


Gravatar*3ease he3*.


GravatarLewis Black.

National treasure.


GravatarI would not be surprised if he were gaining ground with the group, but also ebbing and back etc., which may be a significant component in that Gallup switchback in Dem support, 46-45 Clinton, first since mid-March.
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QuentinCompson, Negatory

He would have had to actually make inroads in that group, especially in Pennsylvania, in order to be within the margin of error.


GravatarHave to buy Mexican Coca-Cola to get real sugar.

Yeah, but Passover Coke too. Corn is avoided during Passover, so Coca-Cola issues sugar-based Coke for it.


GravatarWanna talk about books? I just finished reading a creepy as hell novel from the '70s about a serial killer, By Reason of Insanity.


I'm reading a novel that Prior Aelred sent me and also 1491, which is pretty fascinating.


GravatarSo I haven't been paying attention much recently, but when did the address of this blog become "www.eschatonblog.com"?


GravatarIt's hysterical to use someone's religion as a slur! What a great joke!
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All of a sudden she's concerned about a slur.


GravatarMy friend Jazz is a Christian guitarist..


Duane V, Bitter Classist


Ha!


Gravatar1491 was a real eye-opener for me. Especially the stuff about the Amazonian and Andean civilizations.


Gravatar"And I'm almost through Bourdieu's "Distinction"."

What a masochist! How about a little Foucault cocktail?


Gravatar
Wanna talk about books? I just finished reading a creepy as hell novel from the '70s about a serial killer, By Reason of Insanity.



That was 1 of my desert island books.

I'm kinda weird.


GravatarD6 y64 2n6w what's wr6ng w5th 0y 2eyb6ard+


Gravatar"Hysterical"? That means you're sexist!

Exactly, In the way that Obama is imposing on Rove by refusing to wear a flag pin.


GravatarI keep hearing about this real sugar cane Coke, but I've never seen it.

That gum you like is coming back in style.


GravatarGeez, why do they alwayas sing the national anthem soooo slooooowwwwwly at sporting events? Let's get on with things here.


Gravatarwhen did the address of this blog become "www.eschatonblog.com"?

Couple days ago, it seems.


GravatarHey Elias, I'm going to see Michael Franti tomorrow!
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Get OUT! [Elaine shove]

Who, What, When, Where, How.


GravatarDr Mrs G is looking for a massage. Who am I to say no? G'nite, all.

*disapparates*


GravatarAnd I'm almost through Bourdieu's "Distinction".
Apostate | 04.19.08 - 10:11 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


Always thought the charts would make great t-shirts.


GravatarI keep hearing about this real sugar cane Coke, but I've never seen it.

Whole Foods has their own brand using cane sugar.


GravatarI respect Wicca, very much Hecate. In fact, I find it to be one of the more civilized religions. I was referring to the song, you know "the witch is dead...blah, de blah..."

Besides, Hillary isn't really a Wiccan...


GravatarHey Elias, I'm going to see Michael Franti tomorrow!
Ali, now a habs fan

Kool!


GravatarGood night, Gromit.

Elias:

see "outdoor concert series" here:

http://whistler.mtv.ca/music_outdoor.php


Gravatarwhen did the address of this blog become "www.eschatonblog.com"?

Couple days ago, it seems.
Apostate | 04.19.08 - 10:15 pm


Is there a possibility of moving away from blogger??? or something else going on?


Gravatarthis is my current favorite u-tube. trying to buy the cd somewhere.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G...h? v=GKk7iwEbkmM


GravatarSo where do you find Kosher Coke?


GravatarAll religion is supersticious bullshit.


GravatarWhat a masochist! How about a little Foucault cocktail?

Got drunk on that stuff when I was younger.

That was 1 of my desert island books.
I'm kinda weird.

I think I'd like to read whatever else is on your list.


GravatarIs there a possibility of moving away from blogger???

Yeah, that's what I was thinking...


GravatarAll religion is supersticious bullshit.

So is spelling. And tolerance.


Gravatar Corn is avoided during Passover, so Coca-Cola issues sugar-based Coke for it.
puppethead


Why on earth would corn (maize) be avoided during Passover unless it was non-kosher? And how could it be non-kosher since it is strictly a "New World" product and completely unknown to the compilers of the Torah?

It's like asking what Jesus said about tobacco.


GravatarWhole Foods has their own brand using cane sugar.
Snow (D-SC)


Really? With caffeine? I'll have to check it out tomorrow.


GravatarHey Elias, I'm going to see Michael Franti tomorrow!
Ali, now a habs fan


Saw the Beatnigs a bunch of times back in the day. Pretty energetic, to say the least. Never seen any of his later stuff....


GravatarSo where do you find Kosher Coke?

There's a rabbi selling white stuff on the corner up from here...


GravatarI think I'd like to read whatever else is on your list.
Apostate | 04.19.08 - 10:17 pm | #

Bourbaki's romance novels are good.


GravatarIt's like asking what Jesus said about tobacco.

Or Beat poetry.


GravatarAli, that's AWESOME! I'm so jealous. I've never seen them live. I can't wait to hear all about it. He'll probably do a lot from the new CD, but also a lot of older songs. More than likely, "Bomb the World."
Have fun.


GravatarJR, xan, sorry I took a nap for a while. We got trouble in Gemen city.


GravatarThe US can't eve make Coca Cola right anymore. Fucking greedballs.

Once you've tried (or gone back to) the REAL thing, American Coca-Cola tastes nasty.


GravatarJimmy Carter did it again!


GravatarSaw the Beatnigs a bunch of times back in the day. Pretty energetic, to say the least. Never seen any of his later stuff....
Phila, Pizen Sarpint


From what i understand, still very energetic.


GravatarSo where do you find Kosher Coke?
HULK

"Now with the Blood of Real Xtian Babies!!"


GravatarThanks for turning me on to him, Elias.


GravatarApostate I they were Persuasion (if I'm limited to 1 Austen), St. Maybe, Clockers and I think The Rapstone Chronicles.


GravatarFree online book

Acre Under a Green Sky


http://www.acreunderagreensky.co...ndex.php/about/


Gravatar"t" ok?


GravatarFrom what i understand, still very energetic.
Ali, now a habs fan | Homepage | 04.19.08 - 10:21 pm | # [kill]​


Probably not still using belt sanders on sheet metal for percussion, though....


GravatarCarter was told not to meet with Hamas and he did it again! He's undermining American foreign policy and putting lives in danger.


GravatarOr Beat poetry.
NTodd, Sexist Pig


Gaii


GravatarNats tie it up in the top of the ninth. Marlins have fucked up in every imaginable way and a couple I wouldn't have thought possible.


Gravatarputting lives in danger.

Yours?


GravatarLord, I hope not, Phila!


GravatarSaw the Beatnigs a bunch of times back in the day. Pretty energetic, to say the least. Never seen any of his later stuff....
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Well then.
Ladies and Gentlemen, Mr Michael Franti:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R...h? v=RUt7fuK8Mno


GravatarDisposable Heroes of Hip - Hoprisy
Rocked. Spearhead, too.


Gravatar"Among Ashkenazi Jews, the custom during Passover is to refrain from not only products of the five grains but also kitniyot. Literally "small things," kitniyot refers to other grains or legumes. Traditions of what is considered kitniyot vary from community to community but generally include rice, corn, lentils, and beans. Many include peanuts in this category as well. Sephardi Jews do not observe this prohibition."


GravatarI keep hearing about this real sugar cane Coke, but I've never seen it.

Brookshire's has it here (in the ethnic section, not soft drinks, but not Kroger - I asked about it tonight and the lady acted like I must mean Mexican beer, which they did have.

Oh, and my grandson also loved that moon video over at your place.

There was definitely a splendiferous moonrise tonight.
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GravatarIt's like asking what Jesus said about tobacco

I think you'll find he was partial to plug.


GravatarAnybody that doesn't immediatly renounce Jimmy Carter is putting American lives in danger and by proxy a terrorist.


GravatarMore about chametz and kitniyot...


GravatarAlways thought the charts would make great t-shirts.

Maybe I should update Table 24 and put it on a placard to take to the convention: Chances of entering the dominant class, and fertility rates, by class faction, 2006-07

Figures 11 and 12 on the t-shirt


Gravatarfuck off jack


GravatarAnybody that doesn't immediatly renounce Jimmy Carter is putting American lives in danger and by proxy a terrorist.

History's Greatest Monster!


GravatarHe's undermining American foreign policy and putting lives in danger.
wheel


Maybe he'll get a Nobel Peace Prize!


GravatarCarter was told not to meet with Hamas and he did it again! He's undermining American foreign policy and putting lives in danger.

This is the equivalent of someone bitching about interfering with German foreign policy circa 1938.


GravatarOh geez, I'm a terrorist.. AGAIN.

/eyeroll


GravatarAli, I'm honored to be the one to introduce you. But I'm sure if not from me, someine else. They can't suppress a great voice forever!


GravatarAnybody that doesn't immediatly renounce Jimmy Carter is putting American lives in danger and by proxy a terrorist.

I stand by President Jimmy Carter.


GravatarYou're failing your audition, wheel.


GravatarCarter was told not to meet with Hamas and he did it again! He's undermining American foreign policy and putting lives in danger.
wheel | 04.19.08 - 10:22 pm | #



Would that be the same Jimmy Carter who brokered a lasting peace between Egypt and Israel?

You fuckwad!


GravatarCarter was told not to meet with Hamas and he did it again!

FREEDOM!


GravatarFranti - fest!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v...h? v=vjTVAZDBUJ0


Gravatarhere's a hott tip...

the redhotjazz site is an excellent source for early jazz recordings.


GravatarHamas shamas. What's the problem?


GravatarSo where do you find Kosher Coke?
HULK


I get it at my local grocery stores, sometimes you have to ask. Or check the Passover section.

Why on earth would corn (maize) be avoided during Passover unless it was non-kosher?

I'm not Jewish, but cereals are forbidden for Passover, including corn.

See Passover Coke: It's the Real Thing.


Gravatar"I keep hearing about this real sugar cane Coke, but I've never seen it."

Traditional 12 oz bottles with HECHO EN MEXICO on the painted-on label. They will also have a white sticker on the bottle with the ingredients and other stuff required by US law.

And you'll need a churchkey, they're not those crappy twistoffs.

The bottle itself is worth it. And the liquid inside is ambrosia.


GravatarPeace.
What a concept, no?


GravatarThey can't suppress a great voice forever!
Elias

It should have been me!!


GravatarLord, I hope not, Phila!
Ali, now a habs fan | Homepage | 04.19.08 - 10:23 pm | # [kill]​


It was pretty harsh, but enjoyable. Lots of sparks and shrapnel!

I wasn't actually so keen on the songs, but it was definitely a spectacle.


GravatarYou're failing your audition, wheel.
SteveLG


No second chances!


GravatarThe liquid inside really is like a blink trip back to youthhood.
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GravatarMexican Coke Vs. Passover Coke


GravatarThere's plenty of kosher for Passover Coke around here.

Alas, I'm a diabetic.


GravatarFranti - fest!!
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What I'm doing is opening Youtube outside of Haloscan and then playing the video. This way I can still read, type and listen all at the same time.
But you knew that.


GravatarMore Michael Franti..

http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=I...feature=related


Gravatarway I can still read, type and listen all at the same time.
But you knew that.
Elias

The only way to fly!


Gravatar"I can still read, type and listen all at the same time.
But you knew that. "

Throw in juggling mouse pads ...


GravatarThis is great. Anthony McCarthy posted it at my blog today: Vietnamese spoon playing techniques:

http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=C...feature=related


GravatarSo you can't have cereal for breakfast during Passover.

I suppose a Sausage McMuffin with Egg (and cheese) would be out of the question.

Thank God I'm an Athiest.


GravatarOh my, oh.

Just saw a commercial with Pelosi and Newt sitting on a couch outdoors saying we have to do something about climate change.


GravatarPeace.
What a concept, no?
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants

MUST be illegal..


GravatarI have to go pay bills. It's the chore I hate most of all. grrrr.


Gravatar40 Neo-Nazis marched in DC surrounded by cops to protect them and still they were heckled.

Dudes, weren't they pathetic enough already. Y'all should have just stood there and laughed at their need for so much security despite the pitiful turnout.


Gravatar"Bomb the World" is, I believe, this era's "Give Peace A Chance." What amazing music John Lennon and Franti would have made together. I think Lennon would have loved Spearhead.


GravatarPower to the Peaceful!!


Gravatar
Just saw a commercial with Pelosi and Newt sitting on a couch outdoors saying we have to do something about climate change.


Good thing they're right on that. Just as soon as they get that war thing resolved, and push impeachment so far off the table that the dogz are eating it from the floor.


Gravatar"Just saw a commercial with Pelosi and Newt sitting on a couch outdoors saying we have to do something about climate change."

And, I wonder just what that might be ...? Sleeping with the enemy, perhaps?

Good night and good luck ....


GravatarYao Ming is starting to take on the accent of a black man.


GravatarPersuasion (if I'm limited to 1 Austen), St. Maybe, Clockers and I think The Rapstone Chronicles.

Nice list. I've read all except St. Maybe.

I'm looking forward to Richard Price's new novel, but I'll wait for it to be published in paperback.


Gravatar. I think Lennon would have loved Spearhead.
Elias |

Definitely.


GravatarJust saw a commercial with Pelosi and Newt sitting on a couch outdoors saying we have to do something about climate change.


The one with Sharpton and Pat Robertson is playing in my market. Sounds like the same deal.


GravatarJimy Carter is a great American and an elder statesman.

wheel is an inbred, rabid, drooling racist Repuke Chimpyloving piece of shit.

Go fuck your sister, wheel.


GravatarThe one with Sharpton and Pat Robertson is playing in my market. Sounds like the same deal.
Henry Flower


So there's an organized "fuck you, Bush!" campaign going on with some republicans?


GravatarCandidate Obama still hasn't answered the burning question: Why is this night different from all other nights?


GravatarVietnamese spoon playing techniques

That man's a doubleparadiddling fool.
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GravatarTraditions of what is considered kitniyot vary from community to community but generally include rice, corn, lentils, and beans. Many include peanuts in this category as well. Sephardi Jews do not observe this prohibition."
NTodd, Sexist Pig


Well, learn something new every day. Thanks NTodd and puppethead, the link explained it quite nicely.

Had the essence of it explained to me by a Jewish buddy one time, over a dinner of (pork) BBQ on which he was chowing down with great enthusiasm. We lifted eyebrows in his direction at this lapse, knowing that he keeps kosher at home. He explained that before meeting his wife and deciding to become more observant, he had lived for several years in Memphis and had his soul irredeemably corrupted on the subject of proper BBQ.


GravatarWhy is this night different from all other nights?

We'll never experience it again.


GravatarThis is great. Anthony McCarthy posted it at my blog today: Vietnamese spoon playing techniques:
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The VC kick Yankee Imperialist ass once again!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B...h? v=BUUGOD8yR1Q


GravatarVietnamese spoon playing techniques:

That's cool.


GravatarI have to go pay bills. It's the chore I hate most of all. grrrr.
Echidne


Really? I'd rather pay bills than do housework of any kind.

Probably because I remember "paying" them when I didn't have any money. Having barely enough is much better.

Well, the Nats lost in the bottom of the ninth, so I'm calling it a night.

ciao.


Gravatarhe had lived for several years in Memphis and had his soul irredeemably corrupted on the subject of proper BBQ

Not in Memphis, he didn't.


GravatarSo there's an organized "fuck you, Bush!" campaign going on with some republicans?



dunno.


Gravatar"40 Neo-Nazis marched in DC surrounded by cops to protect them..."

wheel and 39 close friends.


Gravatarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b...h? v=bvig4SAZBEs


GravatarApostate I have it but haven't started reading it yet.

I love serial killer books. Val McDermid's "Wire In The Blood" books are a favorite.

St. Maybe is by Anne Tyler and very sad. I love books and movies that make me cry.


GravatarWhy is this night different from all other nights?

Because Moses died about a month ago...


GravatarHas Jesus ever cured an amputee?


GravatarJust saw a commercial with Pelosi and Newt sitting on a couch outdoors saying we have to do something about climate change.
puppethead



The petroleum industry's commercials have been saying the same thing for years.

It's called lube.
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GravatarI have to go pay bills. It's the chore I hate most of all. grrrr.

I feel like an adult when I pay bills.


Gravatarwheel and 39 close friends.
HULK | 04.19.08 - 10:39 pm


That number seems high.


GravatarHBK's a Giants fan???


GravatarJesus.


Gravatarthe amazing thing is that the "What's My Line" band had a bajo player.


GravatarThat number seems high.

The reporter gave that number. The 80 cops and ten hecklers sort of blocked the view of the Nazis, so I just assumed it was correct.


GravatarYes dave™©.

Yes I am.


GravatarWe lifted eyebrows in his direction

Keep in mind, only Gawd gets to be perfect. It's in the rules.
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Gravatarwell, banjo. bajo would be tejas, no?


GravatarThat Brent Bozell seems like an unbiased fella.


Gravatarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U...t-3hegJnpc& NR=1


Gravatarsnow, I was referring to wheel having 39 friends.


Gravatarsnow, I was referring to wheel having 39 friends

I know. Otherwise my joke would have made no sense.


Gravatar"Pelosi and Newt sitting on a couch outdoors"

Well, now we know why she took Chimpeachment off the table. Newt's been boning her, that old trollop.


Gravatarsnow, I was referring to wheel having 39 friends.
Ali, now a habs fan


Yep, definitely too large an estimate..


GravatarFranti receives the baton from Gil Scott Heron very smoothly:

http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=u...feature=related


GravatarAnd Tralfaz, alas for Gemen but with 40 attackers I can only say I hope he's crannied up to the hilt. My humble abode is far too far away for any assistance to get there in time to do any good.

You should post something on the forum about it though, in case there's any other assistance we can provide. Whole point of having an alliance after all...


GravatarI know. Otherwise my joke would have made no sense.
Snow (D-SC) |

????


GravatarYes I am.

This one's for you!


GravatarThere's nobody to pay on a Saturday.


GravatarCandidate Obama still hasn't answered the burning question: Why is this night different from all other nights?
The Kenosha Kid


I don't know, but I bet it involves bitter herbs.

/Obama


GravatarI think we all evolved from items in back of refrigerators.


GravatarWhy is Herb bitter?


GravatarAnd God came to us in the form of a refrigerator bulb.

Let their be light!


GravatarXan,
I already resupplied scouts and told him to upgrade his cranny and send any new troops over to my place for safekeeping. When I find out what level his cranny is at, I'll send him a cookie.


GravatarJR, xan, sorry I took a nap for a while. We got trouble in Gemen city.
Tralfaz


IGMed him, I think he'll be OK


Gravatardave™© that's the NY football Giants.

I'm still gloating over the Superbowl.


GravatarFranti receives the baton from Gil Scott Heron very smoothly:

Elias


Yes, television IS the drug of a nation. And I bet you thought religion was the opiate of the masses..


GravatarIt's astounding how these two songs, separated by decades, are so closely related in style and political sensibility.

Gil Scott Heron and Michael Franti:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u...h? v=uTCQSk2l8bc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s...h? v=sgOWTM5R2DA


GravatarOne wonders how many TERROR ALERTS there will be between now and the election.


GravatarYes, television IS the drug of a nation. And I bet you thought religion was the opiate of the masses..
Duane V, Bitter Classist

In 1969 I actually wrote a paper for a class with the theme that Soma from Aldous Huxley's BRAVE NEW WORLD was actually Television.

(I think I got a B-)


GravatarI can send 20 phalanx, but I'm a day away.

can we go to Travian chat with this?


Gravatardave™© that's the NY football Giants.

I'm still gloating over the Superbowl.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants

Have you seen that add for milk that Michael Strahan did? He's pointing into the camera, grinning like, "suckas, howya like me NOW?"

Priceless....


GravatarSince when did Atrios change his URL?


Gravatar"Yes, television IS the drug of a nation. And I bet you thought religion was the opiate of the masses.."

Television is the purgative of the asses.


GravatarYes, television IS the drug of a nation. And I bet you thought religion was the opiate of the masses..
Duane V, Bitter Classist


Keep you doped up with religion and sex and tv
and you think you're so clever and classless and free
but you're still fucking peasants as far as I can see.


GravatarHBK, "I love books that make me cry".

I'm with you. Every time I open my checkbook, I cry like a baby.


GravatarDept of Fabulous Flashback, Great American Dream Machine Division

Eggs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p...h? v=prC_eExhVQM
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GravatarYes, television IS the drug of a nation. And I bet you thought religion was the opiate of the masses..
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Of course, the great irony is that we probably both discovered Franti from ----- MTV!!!


GravatarChimpy's global warming plan is a joke...don't do anything until 2025.

By then a lot of us will be underwater.

Chimpy is a crook and a traitor to the entire human race.


GravatarHerding cats, I tells ya....

Tralfaz, Xan

travian chat, sort out Gemen there?


GravatarI say we shove a stick of dynamite up Chimpy's ass and light it.


GravatarOf course, the great irony is that we probably both discovered Franti from ----- MTV!!!
Elias

Heh..


Gravatar"Herding cats, I tells ya...."

I just knew the conversation would come back to cats ...


GravatarWF Buckley is still dead.


GravatarSoma from Aldous Huxley's BRAVE NEW WORLD was actually Television.

And the 1980s TV series Max Headroom really showed that.


GravatarKeep you doped up with religion and sex and tv
and you think you're so clever and classless and free
but you're still fucking peasants as far as I can see.
Ali, now a habs fan

Yes, I too am a Lennonist. Definitely would have love Franti...


Gravatarcan we go to Travian chat with this?
JR


yes lets


GravatarC'mon guys, I have to be up early to start farming...


GravatarNo, Rick Sanchez, you did not get executed for not joining the Hitler Youth. 10-20% never did join.


GravatarWF Buckley is still dead.

For which we are grateful.


GravatarIn 1969 I actually wrote a paper for a class with the theme that Soma from Aldous Huxley's BRAVE NEW WORLD was actually Television.

(I think I got a B-)
DWD |

Probably went right over the professor's head.

I've written papers that got a similar reaction...


GravatarXan,
I already resupplied scouts and told him to upgrade his cranny and send any new troops over to my place for safekeeping. When I find out what level his cranny is at, I'll send him a cookie.
Tralfaz


The NSA secret decoder monkeys are gonna lose a night's sleep over that one...


GravatarKeep you doped up with religion and sex and tv
and you think you're so clever and classless and free
but you're still fucking peasants as far as I can see.
Ali, now a habs fan

All Hail Groucho and John?


GravatarOK, there has been some talk of jazz guitarists, and I idly suggested something by Eddie Lang, but I din't realise that in the band the Gin Bottle Five there were:
Hoagy Carmichel-scat vocals, percussion
King Oliver- cornet

um...


GravatarCougarhutch, how are the Cougarettes?


GravatarNobody's putting any cookies up MY cranny. Unless they're my proctologist.


GravatarNo, Rick Sanchez, you did not get executed for not joining the Hitler Youth. 10-20% never did join.

These are also the same people who wonder why the Germans didn't resist as they attempt to explain American exceptionalism...


GravatarI've written papers that got a similar reaction...
Duane V, Bitter Classist

Yeah, you should have read my paper on creativity and artists. Got a D on that one. Some lady took the idea and wrote a book called The Artist's Way and got rich. Go figure.


GravatarPelosi and Newt sitting on a couch outdoors

Explains alot..


GravatarWhat's up?


GravatarNeil Postman's Amusing Ourselves to Death is an excellent book about the "joys" of television.

I liked when he talked about the Lincoln/Douglas debates, and how the opening statements were ONE hour. CNN would have a seizure at one hour of pure talk.


GravatarC'mon guys, I have to be up early to start farming...
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Like when Elaine asked Jerry why guys always have to leave so early in the morning. "It's like you all become farmers, or something"

Will you call us, JR?


GravatarVicki, just awaiting Monsieur's arrival.


Gravatarmy honeycats are sad tonight because they dint get nue carz.

Have patience, honeycats...


GravatarI've written papers that got a similar reaction...
Duane V, Bitter Classist

I wrote a paper on Robert Frost's The Oven Bird which I thought was OK (one of those interpretive analysis things I really hate doing).

The teacher gave me a D- and wrote a real bitter note on there, saying my interpretation was completely wrong. And I thought she was a sweet old lady.


GravatarAll Hail Groucho and John?
DWD

I too, am a Proud Marxist - Lennonist!


GravatarThis is great. Anthony McCarthy posted it at my blog today: Vietnamese spoon playing techniques:

http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=C...feature=related
Echidne | Homepage | 04.19.08 - 10:32 pm | #


nice.


Gravatar"hese are also the same people who wonder why the Germans didn't resist as they attempt to explain American exceptionalism..."

Touche!


Gravatarjust awaiting Monsieur's arrival.
Sallyh,




I completely understand. I just talked to my former, future monsieur.
I missed him.


Gravatar All Hail Groucho and John


GravatarThis Eggs video is fucking amazing!


Gravataraangus!


GravatarAnd I thought she was a sweet old lady.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin

Hey there, Janeane!!

Yes, sweet, but EEeee - ville...


GravatarI love serial killer books. Val McDermid's "Wire In The Blood" books are a favorite.

I'm a fan of serial killer books too. I enjoyed the McDermids, and Mo Hayder's The Treatment comes to mind. I've heard Reginald Hill's Dialogue of the Dead is good, but I haven't read it yet.

St. Maybe is by Anne Tyler and very sad. I love books and movies that make me cry.

I don't like movies that make me cry, or that I think are trying to make me cry, but I don't mind books that do. I remember reading a bunch of Anne Tyler's novels in, I guess, the late 80s or early 90s. I think I read a few in a row, and they seemed too much alike. I'll give St. Maybe; it's been a while now.

Joanna Scott's books always get me right where I live, as different as they are. And Lorrie Moore's short stories.


Gravatarevening bats

how's it hangin'?


Gravatar{{{Sallyh}}}




GravatarI did an art project in 8th grade about the "neon god they made" being a TV. My art teacher didn't get it either.


GravatarI too, am a Proud Marxist - Lennonist!

You all are mocking me aren't you?


GravatarDuane V, Fucking Peasant | 04.19.08 - 11:04 pm | #

Hey, Duane. Yeah, episodes like that make me fume when someone asks me "don't you miss your college days?".


GravatarI liked when he talked about the Lincoln/Douglas debates, and how the opening statements were ONE hour. CNN would have a seizure at one hour of pure talk.

Hell, even the JFK/Nixon debates were too long for today's Wise Ones...


GravatarI was flipping channels waiting for the dogs to come in and I saw some stupid radio person on CNN explaining that the last two elections have been won by Bush because people really care about issues like flag burning and abortion and gun rights and this other stuff is simply unimportant: why do they let these people on the TV? I am probably insane but I am a picture of mental health comparatively speaking.


Gravatarhow's it hangin'?
----

[feels around]

Shrinkage.


GravatarI wrote a paper for a professor in which I critiqued Neo - liberal economic policies, "free" trade, and the like..The professor was a Clintonian "New" Democrat type...This was during Clinton's first term in office..Got a lousy "C".


Gravatar"and this other stuff is simply unimportant: why do they let these people on the TV?"

Pish Posh! A man can live for days without food. But death is just a few hours away without a lapel pin flag.


GravatarThis Eggs video is fucking amazing!
Elias


Hang in there.

TV has slid a long way down since Marshall Ephron had his mitts on it.
-


GravatarI liked when he talked about the Lincoln/Douglas debates, and how the opening statements were ONE hour. CNN would have a seizure at one hour of pure talk.

CNN would have Wolf Blitzer speaking over Lincoln and Douglas, in the situation room, with guests.

++++

Also, Marilynne Robinson's books. Love her.


Gravatar"the last two elections have been won by Bush because people really care about issues like flag burning and abortion and gun rights and this other stuff is simply unimportant"

This guy's logic is so flawed that I do not know where to begin...

"Won?"


GravatarLOLABLOGGING!


GravatarAwesome. Forever. War.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/...20/ wiraq120.xml

Battle to retake Basra was 'complete disaster'
By Sean Rayment, Defence Correspondent
Last Updated: 12:34am BST 20/04/2008


The British-trained Iraqi Army's attempt to retake Basra from militiamen was an "unmitigated disaster at every level", British commanders have disclosed.

Senior sources have said that the mission was undermined by incompetent officers and untrained troops who were sent into battle with inadequate supplies of food, water and ammunition.

Iraqi soldiers at the Divisional Training Centre outside Basra: Battle to retake Basra was 'complete disaster'
Iraqi soldiers at the Divisional Training Centre outside Basra

They said the failure had delayed the British withdrawal by "many months".



GravatarWhen the neo-nazis marched in Olympia, WA, people dressed up as clowns and powdered themselves with flour, and they shouted: "Wife power!" and "White flour!"


Gravatarhow's it hangin'?

Dressed left, sir.


Gravatar"don't you miss your college days?".
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin

Yeah, I loved being evaluated by morons.


GravatarDuane V, Fucking Peasant | 04.19.08 - 11:07 pm | #

The only funny story about a term paper was one I did for both my History of Cinema class and an aesthetic film/video class. Yes, I handed in the same paper for both classes (with minor alternations).

It was on Fellini, and it ended up being exactly 8 1/2 pages. I didn't do it intentionally, just happened that way (honestly). The History teacher gave me extra points for "the most creative page numbering he'd ever seen" (I numbered the final page 8 1/2), but it flew over the aesthetic teacher's head (she was kind of an airhead anyway).


GravatarNeed to nap.

bbl


GravatarOkay, I've been over at youtube watching max webster and wire videos. How pathetic is that?


GravatarYes, sweet, but EEeee - ville...
Duane V, Fucking Peasant

You never met my writing teacher, did you? She was this little old lady - I think she was a lesbian but that sort of thing was not really discussed at my college - but she was a wonderful teacher but extremely cruel. If you made an error you were ridiculed and made to feel stupid and unworthy of her attention.

As nearly as I could tell there really was no way to please her. The best you could hope for was to not have her scream.

First paper - one page, three paragraph essay - was returned with three pages of notes about what was wrong with it and instructions to do it over retaining the first sentence as it was corrected and to toss the rest.

That was sort of how it went.

(And every day I thank her)


GravatarHey, Hecate, are you still here?

I have a modest request of you...


GravatarThey said the failure had delayed the British withdrawal by "many months".

If only Bush can keep the British stuck in Iraq until the next president takes over ...


Gravatardoodah that made me laugh.

I felt bad while I was laughing, if that's any comfort.


GravatarLincoln (or Douglas) would start the debate with an hour for an opening statement. Then the other man would have an hour and a half (1 hour for his opening statement, and an additional half hour for a rebuttal to the other man's opening statemenet). Then the other other man would have a half hour for rebutting.

Three hours of talk without idiot moderators, needless cutting, fonts/crawls at the bottom...

Wow! What a concept!


GravatarDuane V, Fucking Peasant | 04.19.08 - 11:11 pm | #

I'm autodidatic (for the most part) and damn proud of it.

The students weren't much of a joy either.


GravatarBedtime.

Buenas noches.


GravatarDWD

Damn, ain't it fucking pathetic that people have accepted the fairy tale that the fucking moron won in 2000 and 2004?


GravatarAll hail Marx and Lennon!


GravatarThat was sort of how it went.

(And every day I thank her)
DWD

Masochist.


Gravatar
Damn, ain't it fucking pathetic that people have accepted the fairy tale that the fucking moron won in 2000 and 2004?


Well, to be fair, we let him take office...


GravatarI'm autodidatic (for the most part) and damn proud of it.

The students weren't much of a joy either.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin


Yep, me too.. And they never are. Usually just a bunch of social - climbing ass kissers.


GravatarSenior sources have said that the mission was undermined by incompetent officers and untrained troops who were sent into battle with inadequate supplies of food, water and ammunition.

Iraqi soldiers at the Divisional Training Centre outside Basra: Battle to retake Basra was 'complete disaster'
Iraqi soldiers at the Divisional Training Centre outside Basra

They said the failure had delayed the British withdrawal by "many months".

sidhra صي ذ& | 04.19.08 - 11:10 pm | #


And they were trained by Tony and George's bestest officers?


GravatarUS commanders in Afghanistan have recently urged expanding the war effort, possibly including US attacks on indigenous Pakistani militants inside Pakistan's tribal areas, The New York Times reported in Sunday editions.

More war is the rational response to two failed ongoing wars.


Gravataraw, you gotta hear "Hot Heels" by Ed Lang and his Orch.

http://www.redhotjazz.com/edlango.html

It's a drag- in a good way...


GravatarDamn, ain't it fucking pathetic that people have accepted the fairy tale that the fucking moron won in 2000 and 2004?

Well, to be fair, we let him take office...
NTodd, Sexist Pig

Yes, but the son of a bitch didn't "win" shit..And he's got the world's biggest and best guns to our collective head...


GravatarThe students I still pine over are the ones I lost, the good ones who somehow went wrong or disappeared. Such a waste.


GravatarWhen the Battle of Gettysburg was over and a day appointed for dedicating a memorial, professional orators were hired to deliver speeches. It was the custom in that time and their orations were quite extensive often approaching several hours. When President Lincoln expressed an interest in giving a speech, it was thought to be a bad idea.

The speech he wrote was not written on the train, as if often reported, but was one that he worked extensively on beforehand. He may have continued to revise it on the way to ceremony.

After he had finished the three hundred words or so - roughly five minutes - the audience was stunned by both the beauty and brevity of the speech. They sat in silence before breaking into applause.

The newspaper reporters were not so easily swayed and reported the speech only briefly and perfunctorily.


GravatarYes, but the son of a bitch didn't "win" shit..And he's got the world's biggest and best guns to our collective head...

He doesn't have shit unless we let him. Thus, he won...


GravatarYep, me too.. And they never are. Usually just a bunch of social - climbing ass kissers.
Duane V, Fucking Peasant | 04.19.08 - 11:18 pm | #

Annoying little hipsters, they are.

You know, I've been thinking about my college days lately and how unhappy I was. Glad to see it wasn't just me.


GravatarNTodd,

Good news. Steelhead front.

That is all.


GravatarJaneane The Acerbic Goblin

I've been wondering where you'd got off to.


GravatarDamn, ain't it fucking pathetic that people have accepted the fairy tale that the fucking moron won in 2000 and 2004?

We gonna keep fighting this battle or we gonna move on to more important things?


GravatarIf ABC moderated the Lincoln/Douglas Debates.


Gravatar"... people really care about issues like flag burning and abortion and gun rights and this other stuff is simply unimportant"

Yeah that other stuff... like Iraq, the economy, jobs, the environment, torture, illegal wiretaps... its not important.

What's important is keepin' them flag-burnin' queers from gettin' married and havin' abortions!!

I tell you, we are DOOMED. We are too fucking stupid to survive.


GravatarAnd they were trained by Tony and George's bestest officers?
rootless-e | 04.19.08 - 11:19 pm


Who themselves were incompetent, poorly trained, and sent into battle with inadequate supplies of food, water and ammunition. It's trickle down warfare, a Republican plan to Win For America! (and the poodle too)


GravatarGood news. Steelhead front.

Better than finally becoming a Browns fan? Good that he finally got his head out of his ass.


Gravatar(And every day I thank her)
DWD

Masochist.
Duane V, Fucking Peasant

After I finished the 2 hour class, Advanced Writing, I never failed to earn an "A" on a paper the rest of my college and graduate career. That is worth a little pain, eh?


GravatarProgressive guilt? Fuck that shit.

Like a fish.
-


GravatarWe gonna keep fighting this battle or we gonna move on to more important things?

I'm not moving on until somebody acknowledges that MACV really screwed the pooch.


GravatarI tell you, we are DOOMED. We are too fucking stupid to survive.

So how you gonna end it?


GravatarSTEPHANOPOULOS: I’m sorry to interrupt, but do you think Mr. Douglas loves America as much you do?
LINCOLN: Sure I do.
STEPHANOPOULOS: But who loves America more?
LINCOLN: I’d prefer to get on with my opening statement George.
STEPHANOPOULOS: If your love for America were eight apples, how many apples would Senator Douglas’s love be?
LINCOLN: Eight.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Proceed.

No way Stephanopoulos would give up so easily.


GravatarI tell you, we are DOOMED. We are too fucking stupid to survive.

Thanks for your help.


Gravatar"The best you could hope for was to not have her scream. "

My high school daughter's photography teacher (the artiste) screams all the time, throws things, tears up student proof sheets, cries spontaneously about his aging dog ... What is it with those idiots who see themselves as artists and therefore have license to be uncivil?


GravatarHe doesn't have shit unless we let him. Thus, he won...
NTodd, Sexist Pig

You're right.


GravatarI've been wondering where you'd got off to.
res ipsa loquitur | Homepage | 04.19.08 - 11:22 pm | #

Yeah, me too. Been lost in Brooklyn for two weeks. Not really...


GravatarSome have called her today's "Joan Baez."
Ladies and Gentlemen, Ms Dar Williams:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G...h? v=GJLsXM61RH4


GravatarThe speech he wrote was not written on the train, as if often reported, but was one that he worked extensively on beforehand. He may have continued to revise it on the way to ceremony.


I'll never forget the time when my last boss told me that even Lincoln had "ghost writers." It was a disagreement that we had when I was instructed to write for an idiot who had been peter principled (my bad, actually. Never disagree with management if you know what's good for you).

I remember telling him that Lincoln had spent weeks crafting the Gettysberg Address, and he called me a liar.

One of the reasons why I left that job.

I'm happy to write for anyone, just not for posers. I learned my lesson.


GravatarI tell you, we are DOOMED. We are too fucking stupid to survive.

Who's we?


GravatarMore Dar Williams.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l...h?v=leEl-O5g- w8


GravatarGIBSON: If your love for America were ice cream, what flavor would it be?

I think that beautifully captures the inanity of ABC's performance.


GravatarAfter I finished the 2 hour class, Advanced Writing, I never failed to earn an "A" on a paper the rest of my college and graduate career. That is worth a little pain, eh?
DWD

Hmmm... I suppose. What the hell did she do to you?


GravatarMore Dar Williams is less Dar Williams. No Baez she.


GravatarThat little vignette is actually from one the reading series I kept when the district went to new ones. (I liked the little article because it was good.) I did not know that the speech was "Panned" by the media and that professional orators were hired for big occasions.

Those two facts give a context to the speech that make it even more amazing in my estimation.


GravatarGIBSON: If your love for America were ice cream, what flavor would it be?


In today's America, Rainblow. And by that, I mean, again.


GravatarWhat is it with those idiots who see themselves as artists and therefore have license to be uncivil?
montanaheadcold

Artists license.


GravatarIn today's America, Rainblow. And by that, I mean, again.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | 04.19.08 - 11:29 pm |


Mmmm... Gum balls...


GravatarWhat is it with those idiots who see themselves as artists and therefore have license to be uncivil?

It has nothing to do with art. The person you describe is clinically disturbed. Such a person should, perhaps, seek the many protections and assistances the law provides. You can assist this process by bringing your well-documented concerns to a administrator, hint, hint. Perhaps a sabbatical, or some time away, is very much in order.

There is, of course, a grand relationship between 'being disturbed' and 'being an artist', but they should never be mistaken for twins.


GravatarMmmm... Gum balls...
whiskeyina


I bet your girls love those.

♥ to you and yours, sweetie.


GravatarDamn, ain't it fucking pathetic that people have accepted the fairy tale that the fucking moron won in 2000 and 2004?

We gonna keep fighting this battle or we gonna move on to more important things?
Snow (D-SC)

I say we fight this particular battle until the history books tell the truth.


GravatarI tell you, we are DOOMED. We are too fucking stupid to survive.

Wise up.


GravatarYou may be paranoid, but that doesn't mean they're not out to get you.

“The strategic target remains our population,” General Conway said. “We can lose people day in and day out, but they’re never going to beat our military. What they can and will do if they can is strip away our support... “I’m an old intel guy,” said one analyst. “And I can sum all of this up, unfortunately, with one word. That is Psyops. Now most people may hear that and they think, ‘Oh my God, they’re trying to brainwash.’ ”

“What are you, some kind of a nut?” Mr. Rumsfeld cut in, drawing laughter. “You don’t believe in the Constitution?”

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/ 2...agewanted=print


GravatarGIBSON: If your love for America were ice cream, what flavor would it be?

Neapolitan.


GravatarThere is, of course, a grand relationship between 'being disturbed' and 'being an artist', but they should never be mistaken for twins.

[slices off ear]


GravatarHmmm... I suppose. What the hell did she do to you?
Duane V, Fucking Peasant

She taught us a layering method of writing that takes a while to get used to but once you do, it makes your prose effortless to read.

Essentially each sentence shares either a subject or predicate with the previous sentence. The trick is to do this without being redundant. Redundancy is the bane of this layering.


Gravatarso who knows what I would need to put together a more or less typical 1920's jass drum kit?

Really big kick drum? check.

"temple blocks"? check.

what sort of snare drum was in vogue then?


GravatarI say we fight this particular battle until the history books tell the truth.

I say we win the war so we can write the history.


Gravatar[slices off ear]
NTodd, Sexist Pig


::Chomp chomp chomp::

Eats ear.


GravatarYou can assist this process by bringing your well-documented concerns to a administrator, hint, hint. Perhaps a sabbatical, or some time away, is very much in order.

There is, of course, a grand relationship between 'being disturbed' and 'being an artist', but they should never be mistaken for twins.
Snugglebunny

Yes, but how can you lay claim to being a genius unless you're misunderstood?


GravatarI say we fight this particular battle until the history books tell the truth.

I won't hold up everyone else for you. We're moving forward. You'd leave us dead.


GravatarThanks, Vicki.

Yes, we love gum and candy. Lately I've been trying to limit our visits to sugartown. We've been having a lot of candied ginger slices!


GravatarI just want to sneak in here to say a beeg gracias to the pipples from Sideshow.uk for the nice leenky.

Gracías.


Gravatar"Really big kick drum? check.

"temple blocks"? check.

what sort of snare drum was in vogue then?"

triangle, tympani, gong. i'll find ya some info.


GravatarI say we win the war so we can write the history.
NTodd, Sexist Pig

Umm, yeah, that's what I meant to say...


GravatarYes, but how can you lay claim to being a genius unless you're misunderstood?


I am a genius solely because my tits are in proportion to my brain. Have I made that clear?


Gravatar
::Chomp chomp chomp::

Eats ear.


Uh...that wasn't my ear.


GravatarNTodd, LolaBlogging: Me likey.


GravatarYou'd leave us dead.
Snow (D-SC)

Nope. But thanks for the kind words.


GravatarBut viewers of all political persuasions were affronted by the moderators’ failure to ask about the mortgage crisis, health care, the environment, torture, education, China policy, the pending G.I. bill to aid veterans, or the war we’re losing in Afghanistan. Those minutes were devoted not just to recycling the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Bosnian sniper fire and another lame question about a possible “dream ticket” but to the unseemly number of intrusive commercials and network promos that prompted the jeering at the end. The trashiest ads often bumped directly into an ABC announcer’s periodic recitations of quotations from the Constitution. Such defacing of American values is to be expected, I guess, from a network whose debate moderators refuse to wear flag pins.

Frank Rich


Gravatar"I did not know that the speech was "Panned" by the media and that professional orators were hired for big occasions. "

Actually, Lincoln was initially disappointed ... however, Edward Everett,the famous orator who had prefaced Lincoln's speech at Gettysburg with an two-hour-long oration (customary in those days), later wrote to Lincoln the following day: "I should be glad if I could flatter myself that I came as near t the central idea of the occasion, in two ours, as you did in two minutes."
It was just as quickly recognized by many as the greatest evocation of the meaning of the Union.


GravatarJesus fuck,

We gonna keep fightin this battle.....

There ain't no more important battle to fight asshole!

We've got to retore the fucking constitution.


GravatarUh...that wasn't my ear.
NTodd,


Uh, don't tell steelhead, m-kay? We had enough of that Scarlet Letter shit.


GravatarI hear that Lincoln got the Navy to bring an aircraft carrier to Gettysburg so he could land on the flight deck and say "Mission accomplished".


GravatarI am a genius solely because my tits are in proportion to my brain. Have I made that clear?
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore

As chrystal.


GravatarNTodd, LolaBlogging: Me likey.
Sallyh


Moi, aussi. Loved it.


Gravatarforgot chimes.


Gravatartriangle, tympani, gong. i'll find ya some info.
jdw


if you can do that I'd be mucho obligatto.

I get the feeling that they were making it up as they went along...


GravatarAs chrystal.



I shouldn't but


GravatarThere ain't no more important battle to fight asshole!

We've got to retore the fucking constitution.


You're conflating some battles, asshole.


GravatarOk. I have paid the bills. A lot of juggling was required, sigh.


GravatarNope. But thanks for the kind words.

While you are trying to prove the outcome of the 2000 election, China will be starting a war over oil and global warming will be raising the sea levels and economies will be collapsing.


Gravatarooh- they has something called a "sock" cymbal. What we call a high-hat these days.


GravatarThere ain't no more important battle to fight asshole!

Go for it. We won't wait for you.


GravatarEssentially each sentence shares either a subject or predicate with the previous sentence. The trick is to do this without being redundant. Redundancy is the bane of this layering.
DWD

Interesting.


GravatarWhile you are trying to prove the outcome of the 2000 election, China will be starting a war over oil and global warming will be raising the sea levels and economies will be collapsing.

and Britney Spears' career will be resurrected.


GravatarAll of a sudden, the New York Times is going all "Chomsky?" Where the fuck was this level of criticism when they were doing the same thing in 02-03? Unfuckingbelievable:


To the public, these men are members of a familiar fraternity, presented tens of thousands of times on television and radio as “military analysts” whose long service has equipped them to give authoritative and unfettered judgments about the most pressing issues of the post-Sept. 11 world.

Hidden behind that appearance of objectivity, though, is a Pentagon information apparatus that has used those analysts in a campaign to generate favorable news coverage of the administration’s wartime performance, an examination by The New York Times has found.

The effort, which began with the buildup to the Iraq war and continues to this day, has sought to exploit ideological and military allegiances, and also a powerful financial dynamic: Most of the analysts have ties to military contractors vested in the very war policies they are asked to assess on air.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/2...all& oref=slogin


GravatarSo huffpo spliced together at least two different clips of Hillary to come up with their Hillary attacking moveon. Who'd thunk it. Anyway we quote drudge so why not huffpo and it is a sweet tale so we'll keep telling. We [meaning you know who you are] are pretty much shit headed assholes.

But thank goodness for the self correcting blogs.


GravatarGoogle King Oliver for some pix of 20's era drum sets. Fairly typical large wooden snare drums, bass drumm , one or two cymbals, percussion rack. probably too early for hi-hat.


Gravatarchimes! Gonzo Dog Band had some mighty chimes!


GravatarI have decided (in my infinite wisdom) that when Al- the dog finally meets his maker that I am going to the no-kill shelter for my next dog.

I thought about another pure bred and I always wanted a Malamute or Siberian Husky but I simply cannot stand the idea of a lonely dog needing a home. (and I think I am too old for a puppy anyway)

So I am going to go and pick out a new dog - big, female (Spayed) friendly, loyal, and loving. (sound like a plan?)


Gravatarand Britney Spears' career will be resurrected.

And then we'll all be dead.


GravatarWhile you are trying to prove the outcome of the 2000 election, China will be starting a war over oil and global warming will be raising the sea levels and economies will be collapsing.
Snow (D-SC)

It's been proven. I do believe you can walk and chew gum at the same time.


GravatarRich: The most revealing moment in Wednesday’s debate was a striking example of this media-populace disconnect. In Mr. Gibson’s only passionate query of the night, he tried to strong-arm both Democrats into forgoing any increases in the capital gains tax. The capital gains tax! That’s just the priority Americans are focusing on as they lose their houses and jobs, and as gas prices reach $4 a gallon (a subject that merited only a brief mention, in a lightning round of final questions). And this in a debate that took place on the same day we learned that the top 50 hedge fund managers made a total of $29 billion in 2007, some of them by betting against the mortgage market.

Privileged though they are, Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama do want to shape policy to help the less well-heeled. Mr. McCain, who had a far more elite upbringing than either of them and whose wife’s estimated fortune exceeds the Clintons’, is not just condescending to working Americans but trying to hoodwink them. Next week, in a replay of the 2000 Bush campaign’s “compassionate conservative” photo ops among black schoolchildren, he will show he’s a “different kind of Republican” by visiting what he calls the “forgotten” America of Alabama’s “black belt” and the old steel town of Youngstown, Ohio. What he wants voters to forget is the inequity of his new economic plan.


Gravatar"Men are not flattered by being shown that there has been a dfference of purpose between the Almight and them ... it is a truth which I thought needed to be told; and as whatever of humiliation there is in it, falls most directly on myself, I thought others ight afford for me to tell it."

Abraham Lincoln to Thurlow Weed,
March 4, 1865

A very large lesson ignored by the Wise One.


Gravatarand Britney Spears' career will be resurrected.

And then we'll all be dead.
Snow (D-SC) | Homepage | 04.19.08 - 11:41 pm | #

if we're very lucky.


GravatarMore Dar Williams is less Dar Williams. No Baez she.

Reminds me more of early Joni Mitchell, both musically and lyrically. Quite smart and beautiful.


GravatarDuane,

If you are curious about how it looks in a longer piece, you can try this.

http://home.comcast.net/~veritas...1/ survivor.html


GravatarI do believe you can walk and chew gum at the same time.

Well, that is relevant. You can also walk forward while looking backward, but I wouldn't advise it.


GravatarI have a couple of Dar Williams CDs, and I enjoy them.


Gravatar
And then we'll all be dead.


i'm looking forward to it.


GravatarWith the typos corrected:

Men are not flattered by being shown that there has been a difference of purpose between the Almighty and them ... it is a truth which I thought needed to be told; and as whatever of humiliation there is in it, falls most directly on myself, I thought others might afford for me to tell it."

Abraham Lincoln to Thurlow Weed,
March 4, 1865


Gravatari'm looking forward to it.
watertiger


You know, there comes a time when that becomes a reality.


GravatarI am a genius solely because my tits are in proportion to my brain

Wait, this is the standard? Great, I'm an idiot. Sheeeeeyaaaaat.


Gravatarcougarhutch: cymbals, of course. chinese and turkish.

here's a few pics of chick webb:

http://www.drummerworld.com/ drum...Chick_Webb.html


GravatarDWD

Thanks.


GravatarMcCain will undoubtedly say that in his experience only desperate losers threaten to go to war when they don't have to:

Anti-American Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr gave a "final warning" to the government Saturday to halt a U.S.-Iraqi crackdown against his followers or he would declare "open war until liberation."

And Condi will say:

"Nobody could have anticipated that the Iraqis would want ANOTHER war of liberation."


GravatarLincoln would be braned an elitist snob by the MSM today for daring to speak in coherent paragraphs.

Like the MSM are all "regular guys" anyway.


GravatarBTW, over at FDL, Thers has the Official Election Guide to the Left Wing Traitorosphere...


GravatarA quick goodnight and fyi. Should you be around me if this happens, feel free to kill the goddamn snake!

Oregon cop battles 12-foot python to save pet store owner

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ 20080...d_python_attack

But Rossiter asked him to spare the expensive python, so Nelson put on gloves and pried open the snake's mouth to free Rossiter's hand.

Kill the motherfucking snake!! KILL IT!


GravatarAll of a sudden, the New York Times is going all "Chomsky?" Where the fuck was this level of criticism when they were doing the same thing in 02-03?

David Barstow has done some noteworthy reporting over the years, including coverage of workplace safety issues and the war propaganda machine.


GravatarSave me! Fuck the snake!


Gravatar"And then we'll all be dead."

i'm looking forward to it.


The way things have been going...


GravatarObligatory but nonstandard blogwhore.


GravatarReminds me more of early Joni Mitchell, both musically and lyrically. Quite smart and beautiful.
------

See.
I'm not all that bad.
Glad you like her.
She even wrote a song about Daniel Berrigan, "I Had No Right." It's an amazing song, but no vid unfortunately. I'll post the lyrics.


GravatarKill the motherfucking snake!! KILL IT!
Monica_A: Dammit! | 04.19.08 - 11:46 pm | #

it hates us for our freedoms!


GravatarGoogle King Oliver for some pix of 20's era drum sets.

wonderful. It's all bass drum!

there's a good shot of a kit- bass drum, big snare, and two cymbals. There might be a wood block on there too.


GravatarBut Rossiter asked him to spare the expensive python, so Nelson put on gloves and pried open the snake's mouth to free Rossiter's hand.

Talk about giving head!


Gravatarchimes! Gonzo Dog Band had some mighty chimes!
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Wasn't that a mighty chime,
Lord it blew all the people away...


GravatarThere ain't no more important battle to fight asshole!

Um...Is it at all strategically or tactically prudent when arranging one's forces for said battle to call a potential ally "asshole"? Just wondering, out of curiosity, slime sucking nematode blowing shitfucker.


GravatarThe snake is trying to eat this woman and she wants to spare its life? I'm against the death penalty and as a Buddhist I abhor killing, but this snake wants me to be its after dinner mint. C-I-L-L the snake.


Gravatarcougarhutch: here's sonny greer with the ellington band: check out the setup!

http://www.angelfire.com/mac/kee...Greer/ greer.htm


GravatarC-I-L-L the snake.
Monica_A: Dammit! | 04.19.08 - 11:50 pm | #

The snake is dining, not murdering. It's a snake, fer chrissakes.


GravatarWell, that is relevant. You can also walk forward while looking backward, but I wouldn't advise it.
Snow (D-SC)

This sounds like the rationale used for years to justify our uniquely American lack of historic perspective. What's happened in the past matters. We shouldn't just forget it and move on. That's what's allowed the Bush Administration to get away with being so corrupt. People "moved on" after Viet nam, Watergate, Iran Contra, etc...Now they've stolen two elections and we should forget it so we can win "the war"? You can't win the war if you concede every battle.


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The way things have been going...


Please god, don't let it be while humming "Hit Me Baby One More Time."


GravatarSo, uh, for how long has "atrios.blogspot.com" pointed to the URL "eschatonblog.com"?


Gravatarya know, that Chick Webb kit has no hat.

So he'd damp a cymbal with his hand, prolly....


GravatarC-I-L-L the snake.

IIRC, in Anaconda the darkies didn't get eaten...


GravatarIIRC, in Anaconda the darkies didn't get eaten...

You know why? Because we will kill the snake.


Gravatarya know, that Chick Webb kit has no hat.

So he'd damp a cymbal with his hand, prolly....
Cougarhutch | Homepage | 04.19.08 - 11:52 pm | #

At that time, the bass drum was the timepiece. hats came in the 30s, I think.


GravatarThe snake is trying to eat this woman and she wants to spare its life?

It's more of a confused snake than a homocidal snake. And it was really her own fault for being warm blooded and slow. You gotta look at this from the snake's point of view...


GravatarDavid Barstow has done some noteworthy reporting over the years, including coverage of workplace safety issues and the war propaganda machine.
Apostate
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Maybe so, but still, "...an examination by the _New York Times_ has found."

That's hutspah.


GravatarI have a couple of Dar Williams CDs, and I enjoy them.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | 04.19.08 - 11:44 pm | #


Great songwriter.


GravatarJust wondering, out of curiosity, slime sucking nematode blowing shitfucker.
sidhra صي ذ& |


And you were doing so well there for a while...


GravatarI tell you, we are DOOMED. We are too fucking stupid to survive.

Much of this country is utterly unworthy of the sacrfice that has been made to keep the Constitution going.

The blood of millions has been spilled for nothing at all, basically.


GravatarYou know why? Because we will kill the snake.

Reminds me of Eddie Murphy's routine about white people and haunted houses...


Gravatareschatonblog.com


Does this mean that Atrios is going to turn this into a group blog?


Gravatar
Talk about giving head!


Perv.


GravatarThis sounds like the rationale used for years to justify our uniquely American lack of historic perspective. What's happened in the past matters.

blah blah blah. Keep fighting 2000. That's what's important to the future. Not health care.


Gravatarnice pic of ray bauduc's set:

http://www.angelfire.com/mac/kee...udue/ bauduc.htm


Gravatar"Lincoln would be braned an elitist snob by the MSM today for daring to speak in coherent paragraphs.

Like the MSM are all "regular guys" anyway."

Lincoln internalized the cadences of the King James bible through very conscious study and applied them masterfully to his oration. Interestingly, he also was known to the "regular guys" back home in Kentucky and Illinois as a master teller of risqué stories, which circulated the countryside and attributed to him long after his death. Yes, no CNN man, that Abe.


GravatarI don't understand why people want to keep large snakes as pets. Can't take them for walks. Can't play catch with them. Then you have the added bonus of them acting on their primal instincts and killing you.


GravatarMoDo pees on the lampost to mark her territory:

He can create an uplifting new kind of politics if he becomes president, but first he’s going to have to get past the shallow and vicious old politics he says he disdains


GravatarDar Williams "I Had No Right:"

Too many carriage returns to post:

http://www.lyricsdownload.com/da...ght- lyrics.html


GravatarReminds me of Eddie Murphy's routine about white people and haunted houses...
NTodd, Sexist Pig

"Get the fuck out of the house!!"


GravatarBTW, over at FDL, Thers has the Official Election Guide to the Left Wing Traitorosphere...

Heh, indeed.


GravatarMr. Snugglebunny is snoring. Perhaps I shall sleep in the guest room..


Gravatarblah blah blah. Keep fighting 2000. That's what's important to the future. Not health care.
Snow (D-SC)

You won't get healthcare if you let them steal another election because you ignored the last two times they did it!


Gravatar"God of the poor man this is how the day began
Eight codefendants, I, Daniel Berrigan
Oh and only a layman's batch of napalm
We pulled the draft files out
We burned them in the parking lot
Better the files than the bodies of children

I had no right but for the love of you
I had no right but for the love of you


GravatarYou won't get healthcare if you let them steal another election because you ignored the last two times they did it!

blah blah blah


GravatarMaybe so, but still, "...an examination by the _New York Times_ has found."
That's hutspah.

The paper financed the investigation, and Barstow and the researchers work for the paper. That's not chutzpah. It just is what it is.


GravatarAt that time, the bass drum was the timepiece. hats came in the 30s, I think

like, 4 on 4?

no wonder they were so damn big!

I had a kid come in to record here, built his own bass drum. I barely made it down the stairs. Then he played it so lightly it was all "so, what?"

I prolly dint understand.


GravatarIf I have a yeast infection, do I need to sleep outside?


GravatarThen you have the added bonus of them acting on their primal instincts and killing you.

See, people like you and me, we think that is a BAD thing. Apparently, there's a whole slew of people who hear that and say, "Sign me up!"


GravatarIs Britney Spears now a television star, as well as being a vocal stylist and public trauma?


Gravatarblah blah blah
Snow (D-SC)

I rest my case. Such eloquence.


GravatarIf I have a yeast infection, do I need to sleep outside?

Go outside and bow to the yeast.


GravatarFucking yeast!


GravatarI rest my case. Such eloquence.

You rested your case when you discounted what I was saying.

Or maybe you were not following it.


Gravatarnice pic of ray bauduc's set:

and that's almost a picillo snare he's got...


GravatarThers' post at FDL is hysterical.


Gravatarcougar: th earlier pic of sonny greer and ellington is a crop: here's the full setup:

http://www.drummerworld.com/pics...nny% 20Greer.jpg


GravatarHe can create an uplifting new kind of politics if he becomes president, but first he’s going to have to get past the shallow and vicious old politics he says he disdains

She thinks she's Lucy holding the football, when she's really the great pumpkin.


GravatarWhat's happened in the past matters. We shouldn't just forget it and move on.
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Republicans always canonize or rehabilitate their past assholes, from Goldwater to Nixon to Reagan and 41. And the Dems always graciously let them. Then, after the Congress names avery fucking object made out of reinforced concrete after Reagan, we wonder why the next generation of voters think he was a saint. Wait for it, they'll try the same shit with 43.


Gravatar"and that's almost a picillo snare he's got..."

yup. i think they played whatever was available and to taste.


GravatarYou won't get healthcare if you let them steal another election because you ignored the last two times they did it!

Nobody here is ignoring the last two times...


GravatarAnd you were doing so well there for a while...
Duane V, Fucking Peasant | 04.19.08 - 11:53 pm


Hey, nothing personal. Really. Point is, why call someone an asshole as gratuitously as all that? Your prerogative, of course, but invective isn't going to help the fight. That's been a major problem lately.


Gravatarcougar: th earlier pic of sonny greer and ellington is a crop: here's the full setup:

that's insane!


GravatarFucking yeast!

Maybe if you stopped fucking the yeast you wouldn't get so many infections.


GravatarNewton,

That is exactly why 2000 AND 20004 matter.


GravatarThe paper financed the investigation, and Barstow and the researchers work for the paper. That's not chutzpah. It just is what it is.
Apostate
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When the most influential rag in the world prints an "expose'" on the very same technique it used to sell a war, calling it chutzpah is putting it mildly, IMHO.


GravatarGood night and good luck.


GravatarReligion is the opiate of the masses.
I, myself, prefer a rich Claret.


GravatarYou won't get healthcare if you let them steal another election because you ignored the last two times they did it!

What practical steps are you taking to ensure the integrity of the voting this time around?


GravatarIf I have a yeast infection, do I need to sleep outside?
Bjorn,a poor young country boi

It's Passover. Anything leavened with yeast must be burned.


Gravatarthe Dems always graciously let them. Then, after the Congress names avery fucking object made out of reinforced concrete after Reagan, we wonder why the next generation of voters think he was a saint.

Exactly. I can't wait for the hagiography after Bush dies (either of them). If you thought the Reagan hooplah made you want to retch...


GravatarIf I have a yeast infection, do I need to sleep outside?

Why is this night different from all other nights?


GravatarThat is exactly why 2000 AND 20004 matter.

That is exactly why you will lose.


GravatarHello, folkeses. I'm just now joining in a 557 post thread, just because I've been doing other stuff.

So, what new egregious crapola have we been treated to today?


GravatarRoadmaster, you incorrigible, wonderful, music person. HTF are you?


GravatarExactly. I can't wait for the hagiography after Bush dies (either of them). If you thought the Reagan hooplah made you want to retch...
Duane V, Fucking Peasant | 04.20.08 - 12:06 am | #


The Bush Depression of '09.


Gravatar"that's insane!"

well thats a very special case. ya gotta remember ellington's band was an orchestra and the music very diverse...greer was in effect a drummer and a percussinist all rolled into one.

i'd guess most setups were much less elaborate. bass, snare, temple blocks, a choke cymbal, later a highhat and toms.


GravatarYour prerogative, of course, but invective isn't going to help the fight. That's been a major problem lately.
sidhra صي ذ& |

I completely agree, which is why I don't do it anymore. Used to. Just ask Snow...


GravatarBTW, over at FDL, Thers has the Official Election Guide to the Left Wing Traitorosphere...

Hilarious, all the way through.

Orientation: Wouldn't you like to know!



GravatarIt's Passover. Anything leavened with yeast must be burned.>

My first wife's cooking was following the rules then?

Sorry, sorry, I was briefly possessed by the bitter spirit of an old Catskills' regular. I plead vengeful spirits, Your Honor.


Gravatar"Maybe if you stopped fucking the yeast you wouldn't get so many infections."

they stab it with their steely knives but they just can't kill the yeast.


GravatarThat is exactly why 2000 AND 20004 matter.
That is exactly why you will lose.

Maybe I'm missing the point, but if people work to make sure the voting systems operate reliably, what is to be lost?


Gravatar
Maybe if you stopped fucking the yeast you wouldn't get so many infections.
NTodd, Sexist Pig



But without fucking yeast, we would have no beer.


GravatarI completely agree, which is why I don't do it anymore.

Since she was responding to someone else's comment, maybe you could have stayed out of it.


GravatarSpirits? I've got those. Not much variety in mixers, though.


GravatarApostate | 04.19.08 - 11:59 pm | #

Some MSMers speculated that Brittney could get an Emmy nomination for her appearance in the sitcom she was in.

Just because she didn't royally fuck up doesn't mean she should get a fucking Emmy.


GravatarSo, what new egregious crapola have we been treated to today?
helena handbasket

Nothing much. Some people are arguing (thought from my perspective they are agreeing more than arguing) about whether to move on from the last two elections so we can win the next one or concentrate on the last two so the next one will not be stolen.

The difference is kind of subtle. I say let's forget about the others until we win and then appoint a commission to ferret out the misdeeds and if they are punishable: let's do it then.

Same thing only different.


GravatarRoadmaster, you incorrigible, wonderful, music person. HTF are you?
Elias

You mistake me for someone with a positive attitude.

But the show went OK tonight - my pinch-hitter interview was enthusiastic and passionate, albeit streaming consciousness longer than the Mississippi River at times...


GravatarNobody here is ignoring the last two times...
NTodd, Sexist Pig

Somebody seems to be.


GravatarOK. If I had to put together a 20's jazz kit, I'd look for a big kick drum- maybe 36", if I could find a head.

A wooden snare. Fat, skinny, whatever would suit.

two cymbals, at least. A "china" and a "turkish"

and (shudder) temple blocks. 5 of them seems to have been the norm.

Beyond that, the kitchen sink.


Gravatarthey stab it with their steely knives but they just can't kill the yeast.

Must. Not. Quote. Lebowski.


GravatarI'm sure someone probably already posted this, but, if not:

Iraq cleric threatens to unleash "war" if attacks don't end

BAGHDAD — Renegade cleric Muqtada al Sadr on Saturday issued a "final warning" to the Iraqi government, threatening an open-ended "war until liberation" if U.S. and Iraqi troops don't stop their offensive against followers of his militant Shiite Muslim movement.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homep...tory/ 34258.html


GravatarDuane V, Fucking Peasant | 04.20.08 - 12:06 am | #

They're already planning the resurrection of Bush's reputation. The MSM and the GOP are colluding as we speak.


GravatarSome MSMers speculated that Brittney could get an Emmy nomination for her appearance in the sitcom she was in.

Just because she didn't royally fuck up doesn't mean she should get a fucking Emmy.

Yikes. I thought I was joking. Maybe she is the perfect television star, after all.


GravatarNobody here is ignoring the last two times...
NTodd, Sexist Pig

Somebody seems to be.
Duane V, Fucking Peasant


Nope. They're acknowledging that shit happened and now we need to look ahead to achieving our goals in 2008.


GravatarWell, almost echoing a poster above,

"Good night and Good fuck."

Peace out, moon scouts.

See you on the horizon.


GravatarNobody here is ignoring the last two times...
Somebody seems to be.

What is it you want people to do, as a practical matter?


GravatarSince she was responding to someone else's comment, maybe you could have stayed out of it.
Snow (D-SC)


No, she was responding to a comment I made. People comment on others' discussions here all the time. Like NTodd's doing with our discussion, or DWD. In any cas, here we go with the Ad Hominems. Can't stick to the discussion, can you?


GravatarWho was the drummer for Lucky Millinder in 1941?


Gravatar"I'd look for a big kick drum- maybe 36", if I could find a head."

look for an old marching bass drum, add a couple legs and a pedal and you *have* an early bass drum.


GravatarParanoia paranoia everybody's coming to get me....

I'm going to go listen to that again. It's getting...a bit touchy in here. Later. Be nice.


GravatarI never comment on any other comment directed at another commenter.


GravatarNope. They're acknowledging that shit happened and now we need to look ahead to achieving our goals in 2008.
NTodd, Sexist Pig

Ignoring the last two elections only prepares us to lose the next one, by the same underhanded means.


GravatarJaneane, you acerbic goblin, you! How the hayell are ya?


GravatarWho was the drummer for Lucky Millinder in 1941?
rye

Dunno that, but DO know that Sister Rosetta Tharpe was with him around '42-'43.


GravatarNight, all


Peace - may it come soon and end this ridiculous infighting so we can concentrate on saving this place.


Gravatarlook for an old marching bass drum, add a couple legs and a pedal and you *have* an early bass drum.

it's all that backline shit, no?


GravatarNo, she was responding to a comment I made.

You called me an asshole? Seems you lied to her then.


Gravatarblah blah blah. Keep fighting 2000. That's what's important to the future. Not health care.
Snow (D-SC)

You won't get healthcare if you let them steal another election because you ignored the last two times they did it!
Duane V, Fucking Peasant


Ahem. Both of you gentlemen are completely and entirely correct.

Half if not more of what most people think about "why the Civil War was fought" is complete horseshit. The "Lost Cause" scenario, along with the 'They were all noble men, fighting for what they believed in, bless them" business, was made up, quite purposefully and with malice afore-and-afterthought, by the losers. And then accepted by the winners because "Reconciliation" paid better than telling the truth.

(That whole "well, tariffs and states' rights had a lot to do with it!" is widely believed yet easily disprovable by looking at the Secession Declarations of the various Confederate states. But to this day people keep up this "argument.")

People have to understand the fight, what it's about and what really happened, even as the fight is still going on. Without that understanding the fight will be lost in the end in any case.


GravatarIgnoring the last two elections only prepares us to lose the next one, by the same underhanded means.

What exactly do you want people to do?


Gravatar"Beyond that, the kitchen sink."

you can play a kitchen sink, but a stove makes a more satisfying sound:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b...h?v=br- D7UneS0E


Gravatarhelena handbasket | 04.20.08 - 12:15 am | #

Pretty damn good.

I just bought a book by Karl Marx entitled "Economic and Philosophic Manuscripts of 1844".

A friend of mine recommended it to me, saying it was more humanistic than the Communist Manifesto. I've had an inkling for Marx ever since Kristol called his bitter remark Marxist.


Gravataraw, second line. you know...


Gravatarblah blah blah. Keep fighting 2000. That's what's important to the future. Not health care.
Snow (D-SC)


You can draw a direct line from the criminals surrounding Nixon to what we have today. Rumsfeld and Cheney were part of Ford's government.

Unless they're exposed and held to account, it will keep happening to this country.


GravatarCiao for now.


GravatarUnless they're exposed and held to account

What does holding them to account for stealing two elections mean now? What should people do about that?


GravatarAll of a sudden, the New York Times is going all "Chomsky?" Where the fuck was this level of criticism when they were doing the same thing in 02-03? Unfuckingbelievable:

They're getting an early start on their 2009 Pulitzer run. Pissed off, they are, about the Washington Post winning so many this year.


GravatarBTW, we survived another April 19.


GravatarWhat does holding them to account for stealing two elections mean now?

Well, I think impeachment is important. Even if it takes another ten years to do.

And there needs to be irrefutable evidence put into the official history. I favor a South Africa-style truth and reconciliation commission, at the very least.


GravatarI think. Hello?


GravatarLucky Millinder's drummer was a white guy named Ed Shaugnessy. Yes, the Ed Shaugnessy from the old Tonight Show. Still alive and kicking


Gravatar"it's all that backline shit, no?"

i'm not sure what you mean, but early jazz...think New Orleans marching bands. a bass drummer, a snare drummer. this evolved into 'jazz' and a single person could play a marching bass drum and a snare by turning the bass on it's side and adding a pedal and putting the snare on a stand..


GravatarRep. Bill Delahunt (D-MA) wanted some clarity during his questioning. Was the attorney general really saying that anyone who acted pursuant to a Justice Department legal opinion was "insulated from criminal liability?"

Mukasey wanted to say it more carefully. "I think what I said was that we could not investigate or prosecute somebody for acting in reliance on a Justice Department opinion."

But even if that opinion was "inaccurate," Delahunt wondered, and that behavior really did violate the U.S. criminal code, you're saying that someone who relied on it would effectively have "immunity from any culpability?"

"Justified reliance," Mukasey answered, "could not be the subject of a prosecution." Simple as that. "Immunity connotes culpability,” he added, so it wasn't immunity, exactly, but the effect was the same.

And this time, with advance pardons.


GravatarIgnoring the last two elections only prepares us to lose the next one, by the same underhanded means.

Again, they're not ignoring the last two elections.


GravatarPeople have to understand the fight, what it's about and what really happened, even as the fight is still going on. Without that understanding the fight will be lost in the end in any case.
Xan

Exactly.


GravatarWell, I think impeachment is important. Even if it takes another ten years to do.

How is impeachment possible if the people already have left office?


Gravatarwho the hell thinks we forgot, and have given up the fight? that's crazy talk.


GravatarDuane V, I was responding to this:

There ain't no more important battle to fight asshole!

We've got to retore the fucking constitution.
angryspittle | 04.19.08 - 11:36 pm


A useless trope, in my humble opinion.


GravatarAnd there needs to be irrefutable evidence put into the official history. I favor a South Africa-style truth and reconciliation commission, at the very least.
puppethead

Me too. All's fair in truth and reconciliation.


GravatarWhat does holding them to account for stealing two elections mean now? What should people do about that?
Apostate


Document, document, document, if nothing else is within your means. Make websites, create new blogs, track whatever element of the atrocities interests you most. Print off hard copies if possible in case this all has to be figured out by archaeologists a thousand years from now.

And talk about it. Mention "We can't have another stolen election like in 2000" every time somebody asks you, in line at the grocery store or at the barber shop or workplace, who you like in November. Make it a common article of knowledge. "Gore got more votes and yet we wound up with Bush" is entirely true and provable, no conspiracy theories required.


GravatarA white guy touring with an all black band in the 30's and early 40's. Shaugnessy said the boys in the band were banned from the nice hotels but they had a system in every city where they would stay at private homes. He said it beat the hell out of staying at most hotels.


GravatarPeople have to understand the fight, what it's about and what really happened, even as the fight is still going on. Without that understanding the fight will be lost in the end in any case.

The fight is about healthcare and the war, not hanging chads and Kerry's failure to mobilize those jets full of lawyers. The lesson is not to cry "stolen!" The lesson is to fight. How odd that queries about what concrete steps we should take to prevent theft in 2008 and to maintain pressure on the Democratic preznit and Congress never seem to be answered...


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How is impeachment possible if the people already have left office?
Apostate


The President and Vice President can be impeached after leaving office.

Criminal charges can still be pursued.


GravatarA useless trope, in my humble opinion.
sidhra صي ذ&


True. Plus, one shouldn't shout "asshole" at someone else if they want to be taken seriously.


GravatarEd Shaugnessy may not have been the first drummer to use two bass drums but he was the first drummer *I* heard use two bass drums, on this side, when I was in high school.

Best scat, best Candoli etc., many bests - and live.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Djhoxt6Oag8
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Gravatar"I'd look for a big kick drum- maybe 36""

that seems big. chick webb's base drum was 28" and that was considered huge. here's one:

http://www.activemusician.com/it.../item-- MC.3728W


GravatarThe President and Vice President can be impeached after leaving office.

Um...