I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

GravatarHola!


GravatarComo estas?


GravatarGuten tag!


GravatarWie geht's?


GravatarTo those commanded not to rock, we saute you.


GravatarI don't rock on command


GravatarBut tonight was the first time I wanted to rock! Bastids.


GravatarAnyone caught rocking will have their account immediately canceled.


Gravatarbeat trademark dave!


GravatarAli, you rocked last weekend, did you not? I read those tweets.


GravatarLOVE T3H CURLY!
.


GravatarFuck rawk.

From below:

Will Brett Favre be a Rough Rider or a Alouette next year???


Gravatarfrom dead thread:

George Will is, on the other hand, about to see a new burst of well-placed howling that things have evolved to their current parlous state not through the magic of historical mechanism but because of actual malfeasance in the conduct of government, and that things can, should and damn well must be done better.

This isn't fine tuning, George, and has nothing to do with fine tuning. Your seeking subtlety here is like looking for gold in a coal mine.


GravatarAnyone caught rocking will have their account immediately canceled

Delete my fucking account, Lout!


Gravatarron: I guess, and sad...


GravatarFrom below:

Brett Favre - yes, I can see him in Edmonton. Prolly warmer than Green Bay.
Ali, spiritual advisor


GravatarI have been thinking all day that we have been spending too much time renaming the last part of John McLame's last name. We need to concentrate on giving his first part its proper due:

Crazy John
Junked Up John
Pandering John
Racist Pig John
Big Rich John
Bought and Paid for John
Cindy's John
Karl's John
George's John
Rove's John Boy
et al


GravatarI refuse to rock and/or enjoy.


GravatarAnyone caught rocking will have their account immediately canceled.

Fine...cancel my account. But you can't delete my fucking one!


GravatarAnyone caught rocking will have their account immediately canceled.
Thers | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 11:11 pm | #

Rocking is admission that you've been skipping Atrios' videos.


GravatarSeriously - Yellowtail 2007 Shiraz is an awesome $6 (west coast) bottle of wine


GravatarZol er krenken un gedenken.


GravatarDWD: Big Rich John
Bought and Paid for John


I like-a deese!
.


GravatarBusted. Yes, I have previously rocked.


GravatarDWD - Fed Up • → BS | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 11:13 pm | #

minneapolis airport john


GravatarJohn McCain releases radio addresses on Saturday as if he were the president. It is quite presumptuous.


GravatarMaybe "Big Bought-n-Paid-For-John," even.
.


Gravatar
Delete my fucking account, Lout!


No. I will merely cancel it.

You do not rule me.


GravatarShould I hates the Mieces to pieces?


GravatarJohn McCain releases radio addresses on Saturday as if he were the president. It is quite presumptuous.
Snow (D-SC) | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 11:15 pm | #


Did his Vietnamese handler's give him permission?


GravatarHowzabout "Lying Crazy Old White Wingnut Motherfucker"?


GravatarGod, Atrios, my band in high school was a LOT better than that one. Really.


GravatarDelete my fucking account, Lout!
Hey, I've been thrown out of better places than this!


GravatarYou do not rule me.

I am Paul Atreides. I will rule you one day.


GravatarJohn McCain releases radio addresses on Saturday as if he were the president. It is quite presumptuous.
Snow


Almost as good as his prediction of ending world hunger.


GravatarBut really, the angle is:


"Who's preared to lead? [show crowds all over America and Europe hearing Obama speak]

... or the guy who doesn't speak for his OWN CAMPAIGN?"

("I'm Barack Obama, and I approve this message.")
.


GravatarGod, Atrios, my band in high school was a LOT better than that one. Really.
DWD - Fed Up • → BS | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 11:16 pm | #


That was Thers, one of Simel's sockpuppets, not Atrios.


GravatarDWD - Take it up with Baron Bacon.


Gravatar"Who's preared to lead? [show crowds all over America and Europe hearing Obama speak]

... or the guy who doesn't speak for his OWN CAMPAIGN?"

("I'm Barack Obama, and I approve this message.")
.
Jeffraham Prestonian

----------------------------------------
worth seeing again


GravatarEr zol kakn mit blit un mit ayter.


GravatarDeclaring that you and only you know how to win wars is also quite presumptuous. Especially when you are not familiar with Sun Tzu, John McCain.


GravatarThat's a lot of sugar


GravatarWow! I used to see the Mieces around SF about a hundred years ago...


GravatarWeekend Hairball-Remedy Blogging

With bonus good news about Darcy Burner.

¡Mmm-Mmmmm, Integrilicious!


GravatarNow THIS rocks!


GravatarEvening, all...

Back from my traditional Saturday elitist chardonnay quaffing.

Que pasa?


GravatarDWD - Fed Up • → BS |

Old Man McCane.


GravatarI am Paul Atreides. I will rule you one day.

One Worm to rule them all...


GravatarThat was Thers, one of Simel's sockpuppets, not Atrios.

Several years ago, simels admitted that he was Atrios.


GravatarThat was Thers, one of Simel's sockpuppets, not Atrios.
rootless-e

Sorry. Actually we did not suck that bad. Did a lot of Stones covers with some Byrds and a couple of covers of other more local stuff.

Had a good guitar player who could sing. I sort of hung in the back hoping not to screw up.


Gravatarsun tzu was not covered in the academy's remedial sections


Gravatarbaba durag: worth seeing again

It'd be worth extra credit to work in his responses to the hecklers, the other day. "No -- That's a valid question; let the man speak," etc.

.


Gravatarsimels apparently we're all you.


GravatarOne Worm to rule them all...

That will be my son, Wanker. Learn your future history.


GravatarSnow: remind me which war John McCain has actually participated in the winning of. It slips my mind, somehow...


GravatarDudes, six and oh, first time since '34.


Gravatarsteve simels, whatever you do, do not rock.


GravatarI am Paul Atreides. I will rule you one day.

Is this from the two hour, fourhour, or six hour version?


GravatarQue pasa?
steve hüssein® simels | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 11:19 pm | #

hiyo, steve-o. I did a gig with Brave Combo this evening. Good groove, that band, nice folks. Oh, and I'm your sockpuppet, according to butler's latest sockpuppet.


GravatarI am simels on a bad day.


Gravatardoes eine = meems?


GravatarHey if John McCain had had more Sun Tzu #30 when he was a heroic POW, he wouldn't have the skin problems he has today.


GravatarGod, Atrios, my band in high school was a LOT better than that one. Really.

They have better songs, but not on YouTube. Anyway, did YOUR band have a video with Ron Jeremy in it?


GravatarOh, and Weekend HairBall-Remedy Blogging does have music,
but it does, not, as you humanos say, "Rock".


It might just "Roll" though, eh?

so.


GravatarWe are all simels.


Gravatarwhy does the ball keep falling out of my mouse?


GravatarJohn McCain's war is internal, and I really don't want to know the details.


GravatarOne time, the guys rule, baby.


GravatarI heard the scary thing at market today. An old WHITE man talking to another old WHITE man, "I've been a Democrat all of my life but I can't bring myself to vote for this OBAMA!"

Racism is really a problem here.

I really have no words for these people. I feel sorry for them really. I don't hate them. I pity them for they're filled with so much hate that it must color their world something awful.

For me it is constant temptation to NOT hate Republicans. And I have given it up. I just don't talk to them anymore unless I cannot avoid it.


GravatarI have a rock.


Gravatarhiyo, steve-o. I did a gig with Brave Combo this evening. Good groove, that band, nice folks. Oh, and I'm your sockpuppet, according to butler's latest sockpuppet.
ronjazz | 08.02.08 - 11:21 pm | #


Brave Combo?

Excellent.

Oh, and Butler's increasingly desperate. I'm figuring he may actually off himself here on election night...


GravatarThat will be my son, Wanker. Learn your future history.

Leto II can smoke my worm.


GravatarAnyway, did YOUR band have a video with Ron Jeremy in it?
Thers | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 11:22 pm | #

Most bands have at least one big dick. Look at Benny Goodman, for instance.


GravatarQue pasa?
steve hüssein® simels


Simels is also Al Sleet the Hippy-Dippy Weatherman?


Gravatar


baba durag

Possibly. When we first met Eine it praised us effusively and then went on a rather random attack spree against established regulars, which is always awkward. Eine did not appear to get the "Joke Line" name pun gag, which is kind of unnerving. Later mentioned learning German to the detriment of its English, which just sounds silly.


GravatarThis rocks even harder!


GravatarGot tired of balls falling from mice in maybe 1988. Got a trackball (upside down mouse). So far preferable to a mouse, seems to me, that the continued existence of mice is a mystery to me...


GravatarI have a rock.
masculine_monica_nyc

I have an island.


GravatarMost bands have at least one big dick. Look at Benny Goodman, for instance.
ronjazz


Motley Crue broke the meter.


GravatarWe are all simels.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | 08.02.08 - 11:22 pm | #


That's the most depressing thing I've ever heard.


GravatarSnow: remind me which war John McCain has actually participated in the winning of. It slips my mind, somehow...

The Great Messiah John McCain has not privileged us lowly inhabitants of his planet with that information as of yet. It is possible that we are not intelligent enough to understand all of the greatness that this Great Messiah is capable of.

It is also possible that he was just goofin' on us. Maybe next weeks Saturday radio address will enlighten us.

I saw the new X-Files movie tonight, btw.


Gravatarjust sounds silly - k&y

roger that.


GravatarConcern trolls really suck, especially antisemitic ones.


GravatarSo far preferable to a mouse, seems to me, that the continued existence of mice is a mystery to me...
ProfWombat | 08.02.08 - 11:24 pm | #

Just so. No mouse pad, tiny footprint. Two buttons.


Gravatarron: sure, but Goodman got, to say the least, world-class help--


GravatarAn old WHITE man talking to another old WHITE man, "I've been a Democrat all of my life but I can't bring myself to vote for this OBAMA!"

My response is generally: "Enjoy it while you can, buddy - the kids are gonna bury your lily-white fucking ass and I'll be standing over the grave laughing, as well."


GravatarThere is a locking cap on the bottom. You just have to insert it in the slot and turn it until it locks.

MOUSE BALLS

Abstract: Mouse Balls Available as FRU (Field Replacement Unit)

Mouse balls are now available as FRU. Therefore, if a mouse fails to operate or should it perform erratically, it may need a ball replacement. Because of the delicatenature of this procedure, replacement of mouse balls should only be attempted byproperly trained personnel.

Before proceeding, determine the type of mouse balls by examining the underside of the mouse. Domestic balls will be larger and harder than foreign balls. Ball removal procedures differ depending upon manufacturers of the mouse. Foreign balls can be replaced using the pop-off method. Domestic balls are replaced using the twist-off method. Mouse balls are not usually static sensitive. However, excessive handling can result in sudden discharge. Upon completion of ball replacement, the mouse may be used immediately.

It is recommended that each replacer have a pair of spare balls for maintaining optimum customer satisfaction, and that any customer missing his balls should suspect local personnel of removing these necessary items.

To re-order, specify one of the following:

P/N33F8462 - Domestic Mouse Balls
P/N33F8461 - Foreign Mouse Balls


GravatarOh, and Butler's increasingly desperate. I'm figuring he may ...

From your keyboard to God's cauliflower ears.


GravatarMost bands have at least one big dick...
ronjazz

Paging Joe Walsh! Paging Joe Walsh! Joe Walsh to the white courtesy phone.


GravatarAre we DOOOOOOOMMMMMMMEEEDDDD yet again?


GravatarP/N33F8462 - Domestic Mouse Balls
P/N33F8461 - Foreign Mouse Balls
DWD - Fed Up • → BS | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 11:26 pm | #

Send a pair to Lubyanker.


GravatarWhat's with all the porn? Ron Jeremy is just not a wholesome person, no matter how much you garnish him with a chick who won't do porn.


Gravatarthat's probably the only non-porn video in existence that has ron jeremy in it.


Gravatarthis thread has a big dick and mice balls


GravatarGot tired of balls falling from mice in maybe 1988. Got a trackball (upside down mouse). So far preferable to a mouse, seems to me, that the continued existence of mice is a mystery to me...
ProfWombat

Microsoft Laser Mouse. (Cordless if you like - no balls at all)


GravatarI saw the new X-Files movie tonight, btw.
Snow (D-SC) | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 11:25 pm | #


I was disappointed.

You?


GravatarAre we DOOOOOOOMMMMMMMEEEDDDD yet again?
Zap Rowsdower


There is concern.


GravatarIs this from the two hour, fourhour, or six hour version?

The six, but I am lazy so expect the two.


GravatarIt is recommended that each replacer have a pair of spare balls for maintaining optimum customer satisfaction

I got nuthin.


GravatarDWD:

Racism is really a problem here.

I think the real racism here is your own. Why are you unable to conceive of opposition to the Unqualified Liar as being something other than racism?

Or are you actually saying that racism is the only reason to oppose him?


GravatarWhat did the leper say to the prostitute?

"Keep the tip!"


Gravatarhat's probably the only non-porn video in existence that has ron jeremy in it.

If you don't count the candy porn.


GravatarMost bands have at least one big dick...

Cue Evan Dando, J. Mascis, Black Francis, Henry Rollins...


Gravatar"Most bands have at least one big dick..."

Paging Joe Walsh!


I dunno... the Eagles had more dicks in 'em than a Castro Street bathhouse in 1978...


Gravatarfolkowi, RJ is on television fairly frequently.


GravatarI was disappointed.

You?


Shockingly disappointed. What was the point?


GravatarI've had a neutered/gelded mouse for years, nao.
.


GravatarOr are you actually saying that racism is the only reason to oppose him?
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 11:28 pm | #

You've failed to point out any lies. So racism is your only excuse.


GravatarSo, I return from dinner to this Comments (69).

A portent of better things to cum? I hope so.


GravatarSnow: remind me which war John McCain has actually participated in the winning of.

I guess it would be rude to say "the war on marriage".

So...the War on Christmas?


Gravatar"Are we DOOOOOOOMMMMMMMEEEDDDD yet again?"

There is concern.


Rove's a genius!!!

I'm worried, people...


GravatarWe are all simels.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | 08.02.08 - 11:22 pm | #

That's the most depressing thing I've ever heard.

steve hüssein® simels


And so say all of us. Simels, Coordinate!


GravatarZap, Rollins was encumbered with a cucumber.

Kira, IIRC had the "ten and a half".

so.


GravatarI dunno... the Eagles had more dicks in 'em than a Castro Street bathhouse in 1978...
dave™© | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 11:28 pm | #

The Eagles had 5 dicks. Their pants fit like a glove.


GravatarOr are you actually saying that racism is the only reason to oppose him?

Yes. What other reason could you have.


GravatarThe Eagles had 5 dicks. Their pants fit like a glove.
ronjazz


No longer,
so to speak.


GravatarI'm not rocking, I'm swinging.


GravatarSnow: remind me which war John McCain has actually participated in the winning of.

The war against sanity.


GravatarI dunno... the Eagles had more dicks in 'em than a Castro Street bathhouse in 1978...
dave™©

Amazing for a non-disco, hetero band...


GravatarI'm not rocking, I'm swinging.

No flirting!


GravatarI will say, though, that Keith Morris-era Black Flag was fun. Much like the Circle Jerks.


Gravatarwhy does the ball keep falling out of my mouse? - 1Watt

It's a Democratic Congressman.


GravatarThe Eagles had 5 dicks. Their pants fit like a glove.

And when they came to the Slaussen cut-off...


GravatarRon Jeremy was in Boondock Saints. Which should be considered pornographic but isn't.


GravatarI'm depressed. The Times has long article about how hospitals are deporting illegal alien patients on their own to save money on long-term care. And many of the comments to the piece are horrifying. Not only morally repugnant ("what part of illegal don't these people understand???"), also completely misinformed. Maybe some here can help out and post comments correcting some of those mistakes...


GravatarI can't help myself. I am a helpless romantic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P...h?v=P6C_Q- _RTS8


A guilty pleasure....


GravatarHi Hecate!

I took your advice, and decided to stay in this weekend.


GravatarOr are you actually saying that racism is the only reason to oppose him?
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 11:28 pm | #


You don't have to be a bigot to vote Republican, Tobes.

But ALL the actual bigots do.

Historical fact, not even arguable so shut the fuck up.

And on that note, good night....


GravatarThat's the most depressing thing I've ever heard.

steve hüssein® simels


Would it kill you to make a cheerful comment now and then?


GravatarReferring to a retard from below:

Whenever I hear some rightard "social darwinist" talking about "genes", I want to dig up my AK-47 and fulfill my destiny as an agent of Darwinian Evolution!


GravatarAmazing for a non-disco, hetero band...

I have absolutely no information to back this up, but for some reason, I imagine they were probably the most stringently homophobic group of their day...


GravatarOr are you actually saying that racism is the only reason to oppose him?

Yes. What other reason could you have.
Snow (D-SC) | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 11:30 pm | #


The utter lack of experience? Limitless, stunning arrogance and hubris? A demonstrated willingness to change positions when it suits him (public financing, FISA, off-shore drilling)? A disgusting propensity to play the race card (the "first black president" is now somehow a Klansman; McCain is mean to me because I don't look like other presidents).

Oh, gosh. You're right. If we don't like Obama, we're racists!


GravatarI have an island.
Deacon Blue

I have an axe to grind.


GravatarA guilty pleasure....

Indeed. Though I wish that Mariah Carey never heard it...


GravatarSnow: remind me which war John McCain has actually participated in the winning of.

The war on queers?


GravatarIt's a Democratic Congressman.
bo |

Oh, I see. Guess I'll get a trackball.


GravatarRon Jeremy was destined to be a pron star, largely because he looked exactly like Ron Jeremy.


GravatarI am still listening to some Harry Chapin because.

Harry had an amazing collection of music. He recorded about five times as much as he should have and that is too bad. If one takes the time to cull his music you can find about an hour and a half of truly wonderful music. That, for a pop musician, is a lot of great music.

The problem is that the ten hours of music (or more) that he created just overshadows the 90 wonderful minutes to such an extent that most people never hear the wonderful and only hear the "Other." And Dogtown and Taxi and 30,000 Pounds of Bananas and Mr Tanner and the rest can just make you cringe.


GravatarI'm depressed.


Cheer up. My wife has delivered probably 1000 infants over the last decade in Chicago. 1/3 of them have been anchor babies and everyone of those families has my respect and admiration.


GravatarIf Mrs. Powell had allowed her husband to run in 1996, he would have won. That's because America's racism is tempered by its ideology. Of course, you hippies wouldn't understand that, being the Phil Donahues you are.


GravatarMy wife had the chance to encounter Ron Jeremy several times during the 80s, btw.

Her assessment: "That boy is a p-i-g PIG!"


GravatarWhenever I hear some rightard "social darwinist" talking about "genes", I want to dig up my AK-47 and fulfill my destiny as an agent of Darwinian Evolution!


Come sit by me.


GravatarIf we are all Simels,
we'll live almost forever!


GravatarThe utter lack of experience? Limitless, stunning arrogance and hubris? A demonstrated willingness to change positions when it suits him (public financing, FISA, off-shore drilling)? A disgusting propensity to play the race card (the "first black president" is now somehow a Klansman; McCain is mean to me because I don't look like other presidents).

Wow, that was compelling. McCain thanks you.


GravatarHistory Channel informs me that there are only 5 more episodes of "Ice Road Truckers" left.

Well, that's five hours for me to do some constructive labor over the next five weeks.


GravatarS in Mich: The "S" stands for shit.


GravatarOh, gosh. You're right. If we don't like Obama, we're racists!
S in Mich | 08.02.08 - 11:34 pm | #

Are you speaking of Bush, or Mccain? Because you certainly aren't speaking of Obama. All of y8our points are right on the money with both Bush and Mccain, but inapplicable to Obama, unless you think that lies and your biased opinions will fly here.

They won't. You are a racist.


GravatarAaah, Zap, you have me there. I don't know if Morris was with the Flag when I saw them or not.

My furry amigo, here, is trying to tell me that the heat has broken outside, and that we must away to prowl, him for mice, I for Sangria...

I am reluctant to believe him, the young gatos are impatient, and forget the heat so quickly.

Hasta luego, murcíelagos, and go give some money to Darcy Burner, if you think of it.


GravatarA disgusting propensity to play the race card

If you're looking for your racism, it's in that sentence.


GravatarReally, dudes, all it takes to win a war is a disciplined guy who lays out straightforward plans.


GravatarWow, that was compelling. McCain thanks you.

He should. I'm voting for him.

No way do I trust Obama to be the Dem standard-bearer. I'd rather "lose" and look past the instant election, and preserve Democratic ideals to fight for another day.

But what do I know? I'm part of the Democratic Party's "past." And future.


GravatarOh, gosh. You're right. If we don't like Obama, we're racists!

Your self-awareness is truly inspriring!

Now sit back, relax, and enjoy the new tray of peel-and-eat shrimp they're bringing out at the Killfile Buffet!


GravatarHa, ha. Looks like S in Mich just bitch-slapped some mofos.


GravatarWell, that's five hours for me to do some constructive labor over the next five weeks.

You could listen to an audiobook! You could replenish the intellectual capitals! That's what George Will does when he's not cheating on his wife!


GravatarCheer up. My wife has delivered probably 1000 infants over the last decade in Chicago. 1/3 of them have been anchor babies and everyone of those families has my respect and admiration.
Shared Humanity

she work at the naval station or the navel station?


GravatarI have an axe to grind. -masculine_monica_nyc

Want me to take sharpen it between pitchforks? I'm sitting at the grinding wheel now.


GravatarIf Mrs. Powell had allowed her husband to run in 1996, he would have won.

If only...if only.


GravatarGatos are allowed in mosh pits??

(enjoy the Sangria)


Gravatarel gato negro is a non-jaded adventurer.


GravatarIf Mrs. Powell had allowed her husband to run in 1996, he would have won. That's because America's racism is tempered by its ideology. Of course, you hippies wouldn't understand that, being the Phil Donahues you are.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 11:35 pm | #

Colin Powell is pussy-whipped. He could never have won, with his inability to be a real man. Not that any of the fey cowboys you've stolen the White House for is anything but a closet-case anyway, Bush especially.


GravatarIf you're looking for your racism, it's in that sentence.
cosmic tumbler | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 11:37 pm | #


It's ok. I'm in good company. My last name begins with a D. So in Obama's Big Book of Meanies Racists, I fit right in between "Clinton" and "Ferraro."

Good company, I say!


GravatarBut what do I know?
S in Mich


Asked and answered, move on.


GravatarBut what do I know? I'm part of the Democratic Party's "past." And future.
S in Mich


You're a know-nothing twit. Buh-bye now!


GravatarLe J: that, and supplies, and logistics, and fuel, and manpower. And an ability to change when reality demands it.

Nobody was more disciplined, nor had a better reasoned order of battle, than Sclieffen, of the notorious Plan...


Gravatar
No way do I trust Obama to be the Dem standard-bearer.


Who the fuck does?

Jeebus.


GravatarNot that any of the fey cowboys you've stolen the White House for is anything but a closet-case anyway, Bush especially.

Is he still pretending he's straight?

Funny!


GravatarOh, joy. The dogburning punk ass nazi bitch with the tiny, useless penis is here.

Killfile, FSM's gift to Eschaton.


GravatarS in Mich is suffering from a dietary difficiency.


GravatarIf Mrs. Powell had allowed her husband to run in 1996, he would have won.

Republicans booed him at a convention when he spoke of affirmative action. He's pro-choice. What on earth makes you dream he would have been nominated?

I can guess - sour grapes and you need something to say.


GravatarIf Mrs. Powell had allowed her husband to run in 1996

"Hey honey, um, can I run for President? No? OK, what's on TV tonight?"


GravatarBut what do I know? I'm part of the Democratic Party's "past." And future.
S in Mich | 08.02.08 - 11:38 pm | #

You're neither, you're just a liar and a bigot. You were never a Dem, and never will be. thus, you are a poor excuse for an American.


GravatarThe utter lack of experience?

He is no more inexperienced than anyone else who has not been president. Probably more experienced than some who have been president.

Limitless, stunning arrogance and hubris?

Such as doing Saturday radio addresses or claiming to be the only human being who knows how to win in Iraq?

A demonstrated willingness to change positions when it suits him (public financing, FISA, off-shore drilling)?

Each of those is a bullshit example straight from Fox News.

A disgusting propensity to play the race card (the "first black president" is now somehow a Klansman; McCain is mean to me because I don't look like other presidents).

I suppose he could have allowed McCain to continue referring to him as an uppity negro, but I see no reason why he should.


GravatarThe important thing to remember abt Eschaturds is that they are overwhelmingly white. Their reflexive accusations of racism are obviously in compensation for this embarrassing demographic fact.


GravatarHa, ha. Looks like S in Mich just bitch-slapped some mofos.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 11:38 pm | #


Don't confuse me -- an circumstantial enemy of your enemies -- with a friend.

Gently, you're not as smart as the dumbest person here.

Carry on.


GravatarReally, dudes, all it takes to win a war is a disciplined guy who lays out straightforward plans.

for the efficient use of his deadly force against the enemy. A better killer, basically.


GravatarBut what do I know?

Like I said, the self-awareness is positively incandescent!


GravatarHe should. I'm voting for him.

Then you're no Democrat.

No way do I trust Obama to be the Dem standard-bearer. I'd rather "lose" and look past the instant election, and preserve Democratic ideals to fight for another day.

Your concern, it is noted. Liar.


GravatarYou're neither, you're just a liar and a bigot. You were never a Dem, and never will be. thus, you are a poor excuse for an American.
ronjazz | 08.02.08 - 11:40 pm | #


That makes me sad inside!

But hey, I still get to vote...


GravatarDoes this dress make my ass look chuncky


GravatarTlazolteotl, how's the chemistry?


GravatarSnow, why don't you take that mandingo cock out of your mouth and admit that you're wrong? Everybody unloaded on Obamachrist when he reneged on campaign finance. You're a fucking liar to even suggest otherwise.


GravatarReally, dudes, all it takes to win a war is a disciplined guy who lays out straightforward plans.

Execution may be involved. And "no plan survives first contact" is an old, old maxim.


GravatarLooks like S bitch-slapped the fat virgin. Suck it up, tobes, nobody likes you, even an ass voting for mcStain.


GravatarThat makes me sad inside!

I like the way it equates sadness with an exclamation point.


GravatarZapette's home...it's been a long day of fighting.

Goodnight.


GravatarOh, yeah, the dudes gotta show up.


GravatarHm. Looks like a meth buzz is underway. It never lasts.


Gravatar'night, all


GravatarBut hey, I still get to vote...
S in Mich | 08.02.08 - 11:42 pm |

that's OK, you get to lose really big, too.


Gravatarand preserve Democratic ideals to fight for another day.

Well, John McCain will certainly help you with that.


GravatarHi virgotex!

Damn, we are in the middle of the project from hell. I spent all week last week preparing a data package to release...I hate doing stuff that might end up in court.


Gravatar
Don't confuse me -- an circumstantial enemy of your enemies -- with a friend.


It's just like a Melville thriller!!


GravatarD is for Dull.

Ferraro acted like a complete lunatic. Obama was extremely polite about it. There's nothing for anyone to whine about unless that's all they want to do.


GravatarBut hey, I still get to vote...
S in Mich

Felons don't vote.


GravatarComment by S in Mich blocked.

Comment by Toby Petzold blocked.


Speaking of closet cases, can we get these two crazy kids together?


Gravatar'night, ProfW.


GravatarIt's just like a Melville thriller!!

k&y, nyarlathotep


Another nazi-concern-troll post.


GravatarEverybody unloaded on Obamachrist when he reneged on campaign finance. You're a fucking liar to even suggest otherwise.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 11:42 pm | #

he didn't renege on campaign finance, mcCain did. Try using facts instead of fantasy occasionally.

Nah, never mind. Facts lean left, you'll never use them. You'll continue to spout shit and call it ice cream.


GravatarBut hey, I still get to vote...
S in Mich
Felons don't vote.


True, but I'm sure Obama will carry Chicago anyway.


Gravatarthe sexual and racial fears of the wingers get more frantically expressed as the election gets closer.


GravatarSnow, why don't you take that mandingo cock out of your mouth and admit that you're wrong?

You are welcome to come over here and remove it for me if you are able.

Everybody unloaded on Obamachrist when he reneged on campaign finance. You're a fucking liar to even suggest otherwise.

Define "everybody".


GravatarOne of the more irritating aspects of being married to a software engineer is that he can NEVER LEAVE A FUCKING PROGRAM OR DEVICE ALONE!!!


Gravatarrootless, the going is getting weird, that's for sure


GravatarSpeaking of closet cases, can we get these two crazy kids together?

Are you sure they aren't? Or is there some kind of Little Green Football entrance?


GravatarDepends which "device" you're talking about, Sally. ;P


Gravatar hola Sallyh!


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No way do I trust Obama to be the Dem standard-bearer. I'd rather "lose" and look past the instant election, and preserve Democratic ideals to fight for another day.


I remember your name from a while ago. Hi! Your position, however, is ridiculous.


GravatarI have an axe to grind.

Want me to take sharpen it between pitchforks? I'm sitting at the grinding wheel now.
bo

Si si. Because, in addition to having a rock and an axe to grind, I have an agenda.


GravatarBut hey, I still get to vote...

Sure, enjoy. You're still a liar and a cock.


GravatarEverybody unloaded on Obamachrist when he reneged on campaign finance

Everyone except registered voters in all 50 states, y'mean.
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GravatarDefine "everybody".
Snow (D-SC) | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 11:45 pm |

He means all of his fellow racists and cowards who are well aware that an Obama presidency ends their white-boy affirmative action program.


GravatarYes, do let's skip over Obama and wait another 4 or even 8 years.


GravatarSpeaking of closet cases, can we get these two crazy kids together?

Throw in k&y and some kool-aid and I'd be very happy.


GravatarStep up dude. Just be calm.


GravatarI'd rather "lose"

Why the quotes?


GravatarNo way do I trust Obama to be the Dem standard-bearer. I'd rather
"lose" and look past the instant election, and preserve Democratic
ideals to fight for another day.

This is actually the basis of Naderism, but appears here without Nader. Or a success record.


Gravataranyone read Ian's post @ FDL on the coming doom?


GravatarToby accusing anyone of racism is rich!

Toby can't stand the idea of race mixing! He can't even stand the idea of whites and the mud races dating.

Sucks to be you, Toby, you punk ass nazi bitch!


Gravatarthe sexual and racial fears of the wingers get more frantically expressed as the election gets closer.
rootless-e


Are you suggesting that their opponent is somehow Other?

Why am I just hearing this now?

RON PAUL, MOTHERFUCKERS!


GravatarDefine "everybody".

I'd guess, mostly -- everyone who irrationally hated Obama already.


GravatarFox News has long ago established "everybody" to be the Some People who Say.


GravatarI remember your name from a while ago. Hi! Your position, however, is ridiculous.

Hey there.

What's ridiculous is the Democratic ability to raise losing the presidency to a freakin' art form.

Our country is in quite a predicament. So, by all means, let's have a candidate who is woefully unqualified and naive(a dangerous mix) who "won" the nomination by gaming the caucuses in red states!

Sounds like a plan!


GravatarHe means all of his fellow racists and cowards who are well aware that an Obama presidency ends their white-boy affirmative action program.
ronjazz | 08.02.08 - 11:47 pm | #


it's not even that well thought out. they are just fearful and angry loser.


GravatarWhy the quotes?
MP |

it had to cut & paste to get the spelling correct?


GravatarFunny how "everybody" comprises maybe 20% of the populace.


GravatarAli, alas, we're speaking of a wireless router.

Chris Tucker!  We saw the most wonderfully awful creature feature on Chiller Theater the other night--made me think of you


GravatarFox News has long ago established "everybody" to be the Some People who Say.
k&y, nyarlathotep



Another nazi-concern-troll post.

cosmic tumbler


GravatarAli, alas, we're speaking of a wireless router.

Alas.


GravatarWhat's ridiculous is the Democratic ability to raise losing the presidency to a freakin' art form.

Talk to me on 11/5, Eeyore.
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GravatarWhat's ridiculous is the Democratic ability to raise losing the presidency to a freakin' art form.

And you're sure helping to achieve that art in 2008! Bravo! You're like Picasso on drugs. And less-talented.


GravatarSnow:

You are welcome to come over here and remove it for me if you are able.

Well! A successful rejoinder if ever there was one!


GravatarHe means all of his fellow racists and cowards who are well aware that an Obama presidency ends their white-boy affirmative action program.
ronjazz | 08.02.08 - 11:47 pm | #


Kill whitey!

That should see in Pennsylvania, among other places.

Jesus.


GravatarSo, by all means, let's have a candidate who is woefully unqualified and naive(a dangerous mix) who "won" the nomination by gaming the caucuses in red states!

So Wesley Clark and John Edwards are woefully unqualified as well?


GravatarOne of the more irritating aspects of being married to a software engineer is that he can NEVER LEAVE A FUCKING PROGRAM OR DEVICE ALONE!!!

Of course not, they can be improved.


GravatarSally, thank you, I think?

Which reminds me, I have to make a copy of "Mole People" for Deacon Blues.


GravatarWe are neither Nazis nor concern trolls.


Gravatarwho "won" the nomination by gaming the caucuses in red states!

Um, no. He won because he ran a better campaign. And I say this as someone who caucused for Hillary.


GravatarYou're like Picasso on drugs

When he was on drugs, I bet he painted things normally.


GravatarNo way do I trust Obama to be the Dem standard-bearer. I'd rather "lose" and look past the instant election, and preserve Democratic ideals to fight for another day.

Voting for John McCain is rather more destructive of "Democratic ideals" than voting for Barack Obama. If you hadn't noticed, John McCain is a very conservative republican who will deliver the judicial branch of the US government to the radical right for the next third of a century. There is no other fucking day for republican government and liberal democracy in America. Vote for Johnny Mac and it's stone gone, my friend. If you won't vote for Obama, yet you believe in the Constitution, you really need to ask yourself why that is, because you're voting for a protofascist.


GravatarOne of the more irritating aspects of being married to a software
engineer is that he can NEVER LEAVE A FUCKING PROGRAM OR DEVICE ALONE!!!

You ever had an overclocked vibrator?


GravatarWe are neither Nazis nor concern trolls.
k&y, nyarlathotep


Then let your rhetoric show it and I'll leave you alone.


GravatarSo, by all means, let's have a candidate who is woefully unqualified and naive(a dangerous mix) who "won" the nomination by gaming the caucuses in red states!
But enough about John McSame


GravatarSounds like a plan!
S in Mich | 08.02.08 - 11:49 pm | #

Your assertions of Obama's lack of qualifications and "naivete" sound suspiciously like racism, since there is no evidence that he is anything but extremely well-qualified and very good at winning elections and understanding government. And his naivete is winning him thousands of new voters every day, and making his opponent look like a total wuss and jackass. You have a problem, and it's definitely with his race.


GravatarChris, it's meant as high praise, m'dear

Doug, I'm sorry, dicking around with a device does not necessarily enhance it



GravatarWell! A successful rejoinder if ever there was one!
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 11:51 pm | #


Like saying I have a dick in my mouth was an intelligent quip.


GravatarKill whitey!
That should see in Pennsylvania, among other places.
Jesus.
S in Mich


Comprehension problems? Yes.

Now bugger off, boy.


GravatarThey don't want a Constitutional Lawyer to be in charge of the Constitution, cause why?


GravatarCosmic, I consider k+y to be what killfile was made for


GravatarObama didn't "win"? So maybe my Indians beat the Sox last year?


GravatarI think the Sonic hymen calls my name!
bbl
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GravatarThen let your rhetoric show it and I'll leave you alone.

Okay. You know, we are long time readers but first time commenters, but we feel we simply must speak out on the fact that Poland has historically always been German. No -- wait a minute -- damn it.


GravatarWhich reminds me, I have to make a copy of "Mole People" for Deacon Blues.

Chris Tucker

Panic in the Year Zero


GravatarYour assertions of Obama's lack of qualifications and "naivete" sound suspiciously like racism,

Well, of course they do! Just like Bill Clinton is now a Grand Wizard, and Robert Byrd (who endorsed Obama) is now an elder Bobby Kennedy.

Neat! Complete!


GravatarWhat's ridiculous is the Democratic ability to raise losing the presidency to a freakin' art form.

Maybe if you mean disgruntled, bitter "PUMAs". But note the irony.

Democrats can screw up corn flakes but no one made Hillary Clinton lose except Hillary. And Bill. (And Mark Penn,etc.)


GravatarWell! A successful rejoinder if ever there was one!
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 11:51 pm | #

Certainly places him in no danger, since your fat, cowardly self will do nothing about it. He showed you to be a coward and an immature shit.

Not news.


GravatarCosmic, I consider k+y to be what killfile was made for
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere

You're right.


Gravatark&y are ok.

Their comments are a little dense sometimes and require a bit of thinking.


GravatarI am Simels' feminine side and I am back from quaffing elitist margaritas. Hey, it's California, whaddaya expect?


GravatarThis is an excellent opportunity for me to reiterate that girls are shitty musicians because they don't produce enough sperm.


GravatarThere is no other fucking day for republican government and liberal democracy in America. Vote for Johnny Mac and it's stone gone, my friend. If you won't vote for Obama, yet you believe in the Constitution, you really need to ask yourself why that is, because you're voting for a protofascist.
sidhra صي ذ& | 08.02.08 - 11:52 pm


[terrorist fist jab]

[although Obama's prog credentials are suspect, IMO[


GravatarWhy the k & y hate tonight?


GravatarHoneyBearKelly: Their comments are a little dense sometimes and require a bit of thinking.

Albert Champion. There's always sneaky Jews involved.
.


Gravatark&y are ok.

Their comments are a little dense sometimes and require a bit of drinking.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants

muh yep


Gravatark&y are ok.

Their comments are a little dense sometimes and require a bit of thinking.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants


They may be dense, in the negative sense, but they have a long history of subtle antisemitic posts--and sometimes not so subtle.


GravatarOur country is in quite a predicament. So, by all means, let's have a candidate who is woefully unqualified and naive(a dangerous mix) who "won" the nomination by gaming the caucuses in red states!

One of the arguments for the "experienced" HRC was that she would know what it takes to win and would be willing to do it.

She lost.

It makes no sense to come down on the winner of a political contest on the grounds that he does not know how to win.

But that aside. A vote for McCain means more foolish war, a blow to women's rights to their bodies, a victory for homophobes, and a continuation of this ruinous administration. Period.


GravatarK+Y represent the anti-Semitic wing of the Eschaturd Party.


Gravatark&y are ok.

Their comments are a little dense sometimes and require a bit of thinking.


And they have a cracklingly dry sense of humor.


GravatarS in Mich: If you're from Michigan let's see how much McLame will do for your state that is rapidly becoming the rust bucket of the US. Bush ran in 2000 promising to help the workers in Michigan get jobs and retrain those who were losing them in the auto plants. How did that work out for you?

If you think the village idiot in the White House did an excellent job for the working people in Michigan, you are going to love what Grampa McCain does for you....because it will be another goose egg.

Where are all your fellow fundies tonight?


GravatarK+Y represent the anti-Semitic wing of the Eschaturd Party.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 08.02.08 - 11:57 pm | #

Only to idiots.


Gravatar5-4.

That's the margin in SCOTUS.

Our Constitution hinges on two old, frail Justices. Two Justices who are hanging on to their seats on sheer stubborn cussedness until 01/20/09.

The SCOTUS is the ONLY THING I care about vis a vis Barack Obama. Offshore drilling (fine, open the seas. No one is going to drill, as there is no refinery capacity extent to handle the extra oil), FISA (laws can be passed. They can also be repealed.) etc etc etc.

Fuck it ALL!

A McCain presidency would hand the SCOTUS over to the neocons, and their own handpicked candidates.

5-4. FIVE TO FOUR. That's all keeping Roe Vs Wade from being gutted.


Gravatar emma in OC Hola, neighbor!


GravatarHBK, or a lot of drugs


GravatarThe Celtics didn't know how to win. All they did is game the system by putting more balls in those funny hoops.


Gravatark&y are ok.

Their comments are a little dense sometimes and require a bit of thinking.

And they have a cracklingly dry sense of humor.
Tlazolteotl


Who's "they"? Are there two people sitting at the keyboard?


GravatarOver at FDL, Thers nails it.


Gravatark&y are ok.
Their comments are a little dense sometimes and require a bit of thinking. - HBK

And they have a cracklingly dry sense of humor. - Tlazolteotl


yes to all the above.


GravatarCan we rock now?


Gravatar"Panic in the Year Zero"


YES!!!

You're right! Thanks for the reminder.


GravatarHey D.C., wherefore art thou?


GravatarOkay, NAO the Sonic!
bbl
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GravatarRaising McCain

A country music song about zombification?


GravatarWhy the k & y hate tonight?

It happens to be the thing that makes us Nazis: we became convinced long ago that the popular Jewish approach to bigotry was basically wrong, and had problems specific to a convenient, sloppy support of Israel. It used to be we had to explain this from scratch (amid strenuous but useless attacks from some convenient self-appointed Fearless Nazi Hunter, never hard to find especially on the internet) but now people are starting to get it on a very broad basis.


GravatarCorrection: D.B. duh... too many margaritas @ El Cholo tonite.


GravatarNo one is going to drill, as there is no refinery capacity extent to handle the extra oil

Except for the 15% of capacity that they're already withholding in order to keep supply down.

A McCain presidency would hand the SCOTUS over to the neocons, and their own handpicked candidates.

Exactly.


GravatarObama was not my first choice for president. In fact, he was probably about my third choice this year. But he has impressed me with several winning attributes. Enough so that I am willing to overlook - albeit reluctantly - his weaknesses.

For one thing I honestly believe that he is the most intelligent man that I will have the chance to vote for in my life time. I believe, intellectually, he is the superior of all that I can remember except for Kennedy (and I was not old enough to vote for him.)

Carter was close as was Nixon. Nixon was flawed but he was not a stupid man by anyone's standards. I believe Clinton was also very bright but I think that Obama is at least as bright and I think a bit smarter. The Republicans simply do not measure up intellectually. None of them.

He also has this almost unflappable personality. He does not appear to get mad or hurt very easily. His words are almost always measured and reasoned. He has a good sense of humor and uses it effectively. That is a wonderful asset when things start going askew as they have of late.

(Sorry about being long-winded again)


GravatarThis is an excellent opportunity for me to reiterate that girls are shitty musicians because they don't produce enough sperm.

Camille? Camille Paglia? Is that you?


GravatarOver at FDL, Thers nails it.
dave™©


He sure does.


Gravataras there is no refinery capacity extent to handle the extra oil

Another part of the Democrats' legacy of spotted owlism and tree-huggery.


GravatarIntellectually dishonest fucks claim they will vote for McCain over Obama because Obama voted for FISA and mentioned the possibility of more offshore drilling.

You fucking hack, so did McCain! As for public financing. How you like them Swift Boat Vets making a return appearance for this election?


GravatarToby accusing anyone of racism is rich!


I'd respect him more if he were upfront about it.

Which should give you a pretty good sense of how much I respect him currently.


GravatarIt happens to be the thing that makes us Nazis: we became convinced long ago that the popular Jewish approach to bigotry was basically wrong, and had problems specific to a convenient, sloppy support of Israel. It used to be we had to explain this from scratch (amid strenuous but useless attacks from some convenient self-appointed Fearless Nazi Hunter, never hard to find especially on the internet) but now people are starting to get it on a very broad basis.

k&y, nyarlathotep


Thank you for making my point.


GravatarIf you won't vote for Obama, yet you believe in the Constitution, you really need to ask yourself why that is, because you're voting for a protofascist.

I know the answer to this one: "Niggers scare me!"


GravatarChris Tucker
Ever seen The Atomic Cafe?


Gravatarnow people are starting to get it on a very broad basis.

Here a joo! There a joo! Everywhere a joo-joo!

ICE CREAM, MOTHERFUCKERS.
.


GravatarCan we rock now?

NO.


GravatarOver at FDL, Thers nails it.

"Troll" is not a harsh enough word, though. The same kind of loathing of human beings is there, though. And as I feared Rove is just a symptom, not unique at all. They have plenty of Roves.


GravatarAnother part of the Democrats' legacy

Explain that, Texaschilibean. Do it now, I haven't got all night to school you.


GravatarWho's "they"? Are there two people sitting at the keyboard?

I've always thought K&Y were Siamese twins, posting from a carnival freak show.


GravatarMP I think that's what gets to people.

k&y like to refer to themselves in the plural.

It's an affectation but I could give a shit.

It's not like everybody in here doesn't have one.

As far as calling them anti-semetic I guess if you say anything that might vaguely be called pro Palestinian that's a label people like to hang on you.

As always YMMV.


Gravatar A vote for McCain means more foolish war,

Speaking of foolishness, NO politician is going to decide to simply "pull out" of Iraq. We cannot unshit the bed. Whether it's BHO or JSC (or even if by some bizarre turn it's HRC), circumstances on the ground in Iraq ONLY will determine when we pull out. And that's that.

a blow to women's rights to their bodies,

The SCOTUS scare tactic is so very old, and it rings hollow, with so many "Democrats" voting to confirm Robert and Alito. Even if McCain wins, there is no danger at all of Democrats losing the Senate. So, if a future SCOTUS nominee is odious and anti-thetic to Democratic or democratic ideals, maybe the Senate Dems should -- call me crazy here -- deny confirmation?

a victory for homophobes,

I'm homo, and I can take it. It's not like the Democrats are actually advocating gay rights or anything.

and a continuation of this ruinous administration. Period.

'member back in '04, when so many "luminaries" were so moist about a Kerry/McCain ticket? Because McCain was "sensible" and someone we could do business with?


GravatarThers, I suppose you're enforcing the No Flirting rule as well.


GravatarSweet. Forget that Byrd is :today: one of the fiercest defenders of the constitution on the senate floor and ring the klaven gong just like the Southern Republican goons who took on the white robes willingly long after Byrd himself rejected and denounced them. You should examine your illusions. You are advocating the election of a very dangerous man at the head of a cadre whose only competence is there own enrichment at the country's expense. And yet you wave about Bob Byrd's teenaged sheets as if he wore them yesterday were yeaterday. Please. You're some fucking Democrat.


Gravataremma in OC
Seal Beach here, y usted?


GravatarAnother part of the Democrats' legacy of spotted owlism and tree-huggery.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 08.03.08 - 12:01 am | #

Republicans own the refineries, asshole. And you. You're their slave, and they laugh at you behind closed doors, with their illegal Cuban cigars and their imported brandy. They snigger at the poor white trash like you who defend their thievery and treason, and know that you are gullible and easily frightened. They count on it. they send domestic oil in the millions of barrels daily to China and India, and rack up records profits every quarter, and laugh at you, as you blame it on Democrats, in your foolish stupidity. You are an ally of Bin Laden if you vote Republican.


GravatarAs for public financing. How you like them Swift Boat Vets making a return appearance for this election?

Never mind that, what about McCain giving the finger to his own law?

That's about as breathtaking as it gets, frankly.

Man, when Joe fucking Klein sees through your bullshit, you're kind of a waste product...


GravatarEverybody's a racist. And who smelt it dealt it worst.


GravatarAnother part of the Democrats' legacy of spotted owlism and tree-huggery.

Jesus' tits, could you be any stupider if you tried?

Seriously, I think you should make a concerted effort to be fucking more brain-dead than this.

You'll never knock Merkin of his lofty perch, but you could at least be funny.


Gravatarwe became convinced long ago that the popular Jewish approach to bigotry was basically wrong, and had problems specific to a convenient, sloppy support of Israel.

Your conflating of Zionism and Israel with being Jewish is part of your problem.


GravatarI've never seen any evidence that K&Y were anti-Semitic. I get that they're not everyone's cup of tea, but the a-S slur seems lazy to me, at best.


GravatarThe SCOTUS scare tactic is so very old, and it rings hollow, with so many "Democrats" voting to confirm Robert and Alito.

Yet you'll go for the real GOP guy who will definitely nominate the anti-choice folks. That's a great strategery. Particularly when you suggest lots of awesome ideas for changing the Demoncrat party to preserve your "ideals".


Gravatar"Ever seen The Atomic Cafe?"

Yes. Amazing film. Did you SEE the cold sore on Nixon's lip?

Jeebus! It's huge.


GravatarYou are an ally of Bin Laden if you vote Republican.

He shoots, He SCORES!!!


GravatarPlease. You're some fucking Democrat.

Oh, if I had a dollar for everytime I heard that.

Thing is, I'm used to it. After 20 years of work, I'm now the Party's "past."

Because, in all reality, Obama is going to elminate all the acrimony and division! Oligarchs will simply give us the ball and do the right thing, because of Obama's sheer Obamaness! Hope!!! Change!!!


Gravatarkei & yuri are the Dirty Pair, and not a troll.
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GravatarIf this blog is rockin' don't come knockin'


GravatarDeacon Blues
The People's Republic of Irvine... Democrats in a sea of Republicans...


GravatarPhila: how's the side after a week of treatment?


GravatarEverybody's a racist. And who smelt it dealt it worst.

Wrong and wronger, racist.


Gravatar'member back in '04, when so many "luminaries" were so moist about a Kerry/McCain ticket? Because McCain was "sensible" and someone we could do business with?
S in Mich | 08.03.08 - 12:03 am | #

no. Aren't you good at lies and bullshit. You must be proud. Or do you think that George Will or Rush Limbaugh are "luminaries"?

Fuckwad.


GravatarYes. Amazing film. Did you SEE the cold sore on Nixon's lip?

Jeebus! It's huge.

Chris Tucker


Cult classic and personal favorite. I was a kid then, and remember the "duck and cover" bullshit.


GravatarEverybody's a racist.

That's ridiculous. That's what racists hide behind after they say someing as silly as "Obama is Mandingo".

You're actually devolving. Didn't realize that was possible.

The good news - you may have a successful career as a RW radio host ahead of you.


GravatarI'm homo, and I can take it. It's not like the Democrats are actually advocating gay rights or anything.

Some are, some aren't. How many Republicans are, roughly?


GravatarI've been reading that fucking sack of anonymous shit for years and there's no question that it's an anti-Semite. None.


GravatarI would be in favor of federal funding to build a network of permanently government owned refineries. In fact this is arguably as important for national security as having a strategic oil reserve.


GravatarEverybody's a racist. And who smelt it dealt it worst.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 08.03.08 - 12:04 am | #

You're going to put a hole in the screen with that projection.


Gravatark&y are more "critical of Israeli government policies" than "antisemetic"... at least that's how I've read it...
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Gravatarwe became convinced long ago that the popular Jewish approach to bigotry was basically wrong, and had problems specific to a convenient, sloppy support of Israel.

--------------------------------

Your conflating of Zionism and Israel with being Jewish is part of your problem.
Snow (D-SC)

I can live with that.


GravatarDoesn't Toby have a life?

I mean, he spends all his time bothering people who can't stand him.


GravatarThe People's Republic of Irvine... Democrats in a sea of Republicans...
emma in OC

Very nice UCI grad myself


GravatarSo, what do you propose people do, S in Mich?


GravatarI've never seen any evidence that K&Y were anti-Semitic.

Whenever we are confronted with an endless series of posts, each of which requires continual scrolling to read, and is written in the dry idiom of the New Yorker's infamous 12-part ode to Major Grain Crops, we tend to just turn Killfile on and let it do it's thing. That's just us, though.


GravatarI've been reading that fucking sack of anonymous shit for years and there's no question that it's an anti-Semite. None.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 08.03.08 - 12:07 am | #

proof that they're not, right here. Toby's never been right about anything.


GravatarMisterX I agree.

I'm off.

Buenas noches.


GravatarPhila: how's the side after a week of treatment?
baba durag | 08.03.08 - 12:07 am | #


I think it's getting better! Still a bit achy, but I'm drinking massive amounts of water, and it really seems to be helping. Can't tell you how glad I am to be spared gallstone surgery.

Thanks for asking!


GravatarOh, if I had a dollar for everytime I heard that.

If everyone who's ever been on a message board over the last ten years had a dollar for "I'm a lifelong Democrat but ___________ drove me away!"...we could get together and buy France.

Can't you people at least be original?


GravatarNight, all


Peace.


GravatarDoesn't Toby have a life?
I mean, he spends all his time bothering people who can't stand him.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08


You know, I can never quite figure that out... is it that those who do not have friends at least can have enemies?


That's really sad.
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GravatarBecause, in all reality, Obama is going to elminate all the acrimony and division! Oligarchs will simply give us the ball and do the right thing, because of Obama's sheer Obamaness! Hope!!! Change!!!

If not racism, what is the explanation for this hypocritical steaming pile of shit?


GravatarThat's just us, though.
dave™©

Oh what can be done with a pronoun


GravatarAren't you good at lies and bullshit. You must be proud. Or do you think that George Will or Rush Limbaugh are "luminaries"?

Fuckwad.
ronjazz


The "S" stands for Shithead and it has gone into the killfile.


GravatarSpeaking of foolishness, NO politician is going to decide to simply "pull out" of Iraq. We cannot unshit the bed. Whether it's BHO or JSC (or even if by some bizarre turn it's HRC), circumstances on the ground in Iraq ONLY will determine when we pull out. And that's that.

Iran.


GravatarGallstones? I missed that! Get better! See what I mean about stress?


GravatarFunny how Repukes, who kept Jews and minorities and women from their private clubs are so quick to play the Israeli, race and gender cards ...


GravatarOver at FDL, Thers nails it.
dave™©

He sure does.
Ali, spiritual advisor

Amen.
MP

sure enough.
ba ba durag

ditto
rootless-e

well said.
lejackal

.


GravatarIf not racism, what is the explanation for this hypocritical steaming pile of shit?
Snow (D-SC) | Homepage | 08.03.08 - 12:11 am |

please. "I was a loyal Democrat until they gave my job to a nigger!" is what it is.


GravatarYour conflating of Zionism and Israel with being Jewish is part of your problem.

We disagree: the Zionists have always conflated themselves with Judaism, even though before WWII they were a decided minority bucking a religious tradition that all but spelled out "No Zionism." Conflating themselves with Jewishness has always been an important part of their program for several different reasons. In the modern period the advantages it offers are deflection of criticism (don't listen to those bigots), and the obscuring of support networks. It is fundamentally a criminal enterprise capstoning a century of organized crime and like any other its most important watchword is this often clumsy deniability.


GravatarIran.
Thers | Homepage | 08.03.08 - 12:11 am | #


Answer? "You and what Army?"

We cannot invade Iran, no matter who is POTUS. It's simply not doable.


GravatarOh what can be done with a pronoun

"Here's the problem: pronoun trouble!" - Daffy Duck


GravatarI think it's getting better! - Phila

good to hear. no knives!


GravatarBecause, in all reality, Obama is going to elminate all the acrimony and division! Oligarchs will simply give us the ball and do the right thing, because of Obama's sheer Obamaness! Hope!!! Change!!!

That's not really the point, though.


GravatarUCI grad myself
Deacon Blues | 08.03.08 - 12:08 am | #

Y yo tambien.... UCI, BA History '89.


GravatarI've got better things to do than tolerate this crap--to my fellow travelers here on Atrios--good night and see you tomorrow--I sure hope Culture of Truth will be here because Frank Rich is on vacation!!!


GravatarPhila, I've had a couple of gall bladder attacks in my life.

The suckitude was only exceeded by its blowfulness.

I can't imagine what gall stones must be like.

Happy to hear that you're recovering sans surgery.


GravatarOligarchs will simply give us the ball and do the right thing, because of Obama's sheer Obamaness! Hope!!! Change!!!
S in Mich |


Are you fucking new, or what?

No one I know around here feels that way.

This is Hillary/McLame cant, whether you intend it or not. We're, once again, in a Least Worst Choice situation, possibly.

Don't be an ass.


GravatarFunny how Repukes, who kept Jews and minorities and women from their private clubs are so quick to play the Israeli, race and gender cards ...
George Johnston


"Sell, Mortimer, sell!"


GravatarWe cannot invade Iran, no matter who is POTUS. It's simply not doable.
S in Mich | 08.03.08 - 12:12 am | #

then you'd better not vote for McCain.


GravatarBecause, in all reality, Obama is going to elminate all the acrimony and division!

Is there a person on earth who actually believes this? 'Cause I hear it claimed all the time, but I've never met anyone who believes it, or anything like it. And I interact with a fairly diverse group of people.


GravatarI'm homo, and I can take it. It's not like the Democrats are actually advocating gay rights or anything.


Yeah. It was all those Republican justices, legislators, and governors who fought tooth and nail with KKKrazy Demoncrats for marriage equality, or anything.

You might be able to "take it", but America and the rest of the world can't.


GravatarYou know, S in Mich, if you're going to ignore my questions directed to you, I would fucking appreciate it if you ignored my questions NOT directed to you as fucking well.

Thank you.


GravatarWe disagree: the Zionists have always conflated themselves with Judaism, even though before WWII they were a decided minority bucking a religious tradition that all but spelled out "No Zionism." Conflating themselves with Jewishness has always been an important part of their program for several different reasons. In the modern period the advantages it offers are deflection of criticism (don't listen to those bigots), and the obscuring of support networks. It is fundamentally a criminal enterprise capstoning a century of organized crime and like any other its most important watchword is this often clumsy deniability.

k&y, nyarlathotep


Keep talking; I love when you make my point.


GravatarY yo tambien.... UCI, BA History '89.
emma in OC

English, BA '80


Gravatarplease. "I was a loyal Democrat until they gave my job to a nigger!" is what it is.
ronjazz | 08.03.08 - 12:12 am | #


Of course, sugar! You're so smart, you've figured the whole thing out.

(Note: Shouting racism whenever anyone criticizes Obama is doing McCain's work. He -- and I -- thank you!)


GravatarI'm homo, and I can take it. It's not like the Democrats are actually advocating gay rights or anything.

I know you are. You've said so a long time ago.

But then, so? You haven't made an argument, you've just said something cynical.


GravatarYour conflating of Zionism and Israel with being Jewish is part of your problem.
Snow (D-SC) | Homepage | 08.03.08 - 12:05 am | #



Thank you.

I am a 52 year old white man who feels that Israeli policy is an impediment to peace in the Middle East. Does that make me anti- semitic? No.

My wife of 29 years is Jewish and I am loved by her family. Does this make a difference? No.

She feels the same way about Israel. Does that mean she is consumed with self hatred? No.


Toby Putzhole says racist things. Does that make him a fucktard? Well, yes on that last one.


Gravatarplease. "I was a loyal Democrat until they gave my job to a nigger!" is what it is.

Nah. That's a simplistic response.

What do you suggest people do, S in Mich, now thaat Obama is the dem party's nominee?


GravatarKeep talking; I love when you make my point.
cosmic tumbler | Homepage | 08.03.08 - 12:14 am | #


They're destroying your point, rather efficiently.


Gravatar'Cause I hear it claimed all the time, but I've never met anyone who believes it, or anything like it.

It's hyberbole, of the worst kind. They have to invent something to be furious over because - for whatever reason - they...Just. Don't. Like. Obama.


GravatarYou know, I can never quite figure that out... is it that those who do not have friends at least can have enemies?


That's really sad.
-
MisterX

Or he just gets his jollies by being slapped around.


GravatarSome are, some aren't. How many Republicans are, roughly?
Phila, Pizen Sarpint

speaking of roughly, that picture after the pretzel incident, looks like Jimmy/Jeff treated W. rough.


GravatarI am a 52 year old white man who feels that Israeli policy is an impediment to peace in the Middle East.

Penthouse Forum is two doors down, buddy... but you're gonna have to spice it up a little.


GravatarI am a 52 year old white man who feels that Israeli policy is an impediment to peace in the Middle East. Does that make me anti- semitic? No.

I agree, but when k&y start talking about "Jewishness," they are presenting a different agenda.


GravatarWe disagree: the Zionists have always conflated themselves with Judaism,

You're trying to explain that all Zionist are Jewish, therefore all Jews are Zionists. And it isn't true. Thus, the root of your problem.


Gravatar(Note: Shouting racism whenever anyone criticizes Obama is doing McCain's work. He -- and I -- thank you!)
S in Mich | 08.03.08 - 12:14 am | #

Calling a successful United States Senator and winner of the primary "unqualified" and "naive" is doing McCain's work, period. Case closed. Your racism is just your nature. Your stupidity is practiced.


GravatarHappy to hear that you're recovering sans surgery.

Chris Tucker | Homepage | 08.03.08 - 12:13 am | #


Thanks, Chris!

I didn't actually have any gallbladder problems, as it turned out...was sent in for testing, and got a clean bill of health on that score, along with the other worst-case scenarios.


Gravatar'member back in '04, when so many "luminaries" were so moist about a Kerry/McCain ticket? Because McCain was "sensible" and someone we could do business with?

Everyone here reacted with disgust, Atrios, pretty much all of us, as I recall. Anyway your point here is obscure.


GravatarI am a 52 year old white man who feels that Israeli policy is an
impediment to peace in the Middle East. Does that make me anti-
semitic? No.


We're the same age and share the same sentiments




Gravatarif you're going to ignore my questions directed to you, I would fucking appreciate it if you ignored my questions NOT directed to you as fucking well.

Thank you.
Snow (D-SC)


heh heh.


GravatarShouting racism whenever anyone criticizes Obama is doing McCain's work.



That's stupid even for a troll.

Sounds as though Bugs has a new nym.


Gravatar'Because, in all reality, Obama is going to elminate all the acrimony and division!'

That is really cool but never have I seen the dem party so divided and pissed off so I wonder how he will do that.


GravatarI am a 52 year old white man who feels that Israeli policy is an
impediment to peace in the Middle East. Does that make me anti-
semitic? No

Not that it's relevant, but I'm a little older. And do not like the policies of the state of Israel.


Gravatarthey...Just. Don't. Like. Obama.

That's just it. These concern trolls claim to be Dems, but they won't vote for the Dem candidate. Obama was about my 4th choice, but he's the nominee, and I'm going to help him get elected, because I don't want this country going totally down the tubes, and I think getting him elected is our best chance at delaying that outcome, at least.


GravatarWe cannot invade Iran, no matter who is POTUS. It's simply not doable.

That's sort of true (there is an unimportant argument) but the more important thing is that Iran has demonstrated that it isn't waiting for invasion; it will indirectly cause increases in the price of oil as a punishment or counterthreat for invasion and bombing talk, such as the kind that McCain indulges in. So once again the best choice is the not crazy guy who favors talking over bombing. What racist, anti-white, damned reasonable assholery!


GravatarYou're trying to explain that all Zionist are Jewish, therefore all Jews are Zionists. And it isn't true. Thus, the root of your problem.

Therefore, all Greeks are homosexual! I'll bet they had some wild parties...


GravatarThey just blew up the professor in this island earth. The bastards.


GravatarOr he just gets his jollies by being slapped around.

It's just a cheap troll version of Rush. We liberals rule their world. If they think smashing themselves in the head with a brick annoys a liberal, they'll smash themselves in the head with a brick, point at us and snicker.

I guess their theory is - negative attention is better than no attention. Maybe it keeps him away from a gun.


GravatarThat is really cool but never have I seen the dem party so divided and pissed off so I wonder how he will do that.
Daisy | 08.03.08 - 12:19 am | #

Divided? Bullshit. Pissed off? if you're a loyal American, you have to be.


GravatarThey just blew up the professor in this island earth. The bastards.
MikeJ | 08.03.08 - 12:20 am | #


God, I love that movie. Shouldn't we all have Interociters by now?


GravatarI didn't actually have any gallbladder problems, as it turned out

Did the docs ever determine what caused the problem?

If not I hope whatever it is has gone away, cause otherwise sometime in the future, ...


GravatarRE: Toby's racism.

I must confess, I take a sinful joy in the knowledge that my relationship with Kimiko-san REALLY gets under Toby's skin. The fact that she came on to ME and made it quite clear what her desires were, well, that pisses off Toby all the more.

What a brilliant, hot, Japanese-American babe doing with me, while Toby has to make due with the most desperate of crack whores, well, Toby just can'tcope with the injustice.

Sucks to be you, Toby.


Gravatarwhere have all the flowers gone ... long time posting ... (troll wink)


GravatarTherefore, all Greeks are homosexual! I'll bet they had some wild parties...
dave™©

We're going to be talking dildos again, I just know it


GravatarI wish these trolls would stop masquerading as Democrats.

They're GOP all the way.


GravatarOh, if I had a dollar for everytime I heard that.

Thing is, I'm used to it. After 20 years of work, I'm now the Party's "past."


What do you want? McCain? Never the Democratic Party's anything, chief.


GravatarWe're going to be talking dildos again, I just know it
Deacon Blues | 08.03.08 - 12:21 am | #
I thought S was the talking dildo.


GravatarComment by S in Mich blocked.

Really, kids - it's that simple!


GravatarDemocratic 'division' seems to be largely a media creation, with virtually no basis in fact.


GravatarSymB seems to have a difficulty with context.


GravatarYou're trying to explain that all Zionist are Jewish (this is not something that was said anywhere in our recent post and is definitely something we have attacked on several occasions [usually with the example of Donald Rumsfeld]. Possibly we have implied it in the deeper past.), therefore all
Jews are Zionists (Umm, what? What we meant was that there are outright supporters, pseudo-critical supporters and then true opponents, all of whom are available in every flavor). And it isn't true (Uhhh, yeah, what you said is certainly a fallacy).


GravatarShouldn't we all have Interociters by now?

The MST3k version is on HBO(n) now.


GravatarThey just blew up the professor in this island earth. The bastards.

Seems unfriendly. Just like Obama.


GravatarWe cannot invade Iran, no matter who is POTUS. It's simply not doable.

The issue is bombing, not an invasion.


GravatarHi MikeJ!

Almost done with the book. You know what, a couple of the sections actually made me tear up a little bit.

Must be because I'm an illogical, hysterical female.


GravatarMonsieur Verdoux is a 1947 black comedy film directed by and starring Charlie Chaplin.

The film is about an unemployed banker, Henri Verdoux, and his sociopathic methods of attaining income. While being both loyal and competent in his work, Verdoux has been laid-off. To make money for his wife and child, he marries wealthy widows and then murders them.


GravatarThat's just it. These concern trolls claim to be Dems, but they won't vote for the Dem candidate. Tlazolteotl
*
Oh yeah? As I recall you would like to biopsy the immigrants so what kind of dem are you? You don't show much humanity.


GravatarJust to be clear. I believe Israel has been a stumbling block to peace in the Middle East. But, I am also aware that there are certain buzz words and expressions used by antisemitic people when, on the surface, presenting legitimate criticisms of Israel. That is how I view k&y.


GravatarDid the docs ever determine what caused the problem?

If not I hope whatever it is has gone away, cause otherwise sometime in the future, ...
Doug | 08.03.08 - 12:21 am | #


Gastritis or diverticulitis seems to be the main contender. Lots of stress, erratic diet, too much alcohol...wouldn't be unheard of.

They're doing some follow-up tests in a month to make sure the liver enzymes go down...whether they do or don't, I suspect I'm in for more delightful tests at that point....


GravatarThat's sort of true (there is an unimportant argument) but the more important thing is that Iran has demonstrated that it isn't waiting for invasion; it will indirectly cause increases in the price of oil as a punishment or counterthreat for invasion and bombing talk, such as the kind that McCain indulges in. So once again the best choice is the not crazy guy who favors talking over bombing. What racist, anti-white, damned reasonable assholery!

k&y, nyarlathotep

one point, Iran has pumped so much oil, it ran out of storage. The Sanctions have kept million of barrels of oil off the market. Iran is using tankers to store oil off shore, if delivered there would be a surplus of crude.


GravatarEnglish, BA '80
Deacon Blues | 08.03.08 - 12:14 am | #

Lest you think I yam some young thang.... I was HS Class of '71.... I was what UCI referred to as a "non-traditional student"... i.e., older-than-dirt student. In my case, a transfer from Saddleback C.C.


GravatarWhat did I say? A classic of the zombie genre. I hope the movie is at least 1/10th as good as the book.

I'll be at DL Tuesday. Hot weather due this week. 85 degrees is weather to drink liberally.


GravatarThey just blew up the professor in this island earth. The bastards.

Seems unfriendly. Just like Obama.
NTodd, Counterproductive


THE GUY'S NAME IS BRACK, IT'S A FUCKING PROPHECY!!!!!!


GravatarAs I recall you would like to biopsy the immigrants

wtf?


GravatarFor the record, I recall S in Mich as an old Atriot, whom I remember positively, but with whom I disagree at the moment quite vehemently. That's all.


GravatarI see Troll People.


GravatarObama was about my 4th choice, but he's the nominee, and I'm going to help him get elected, because I don't want this country going totally down the tubes, and I think getting him elected is our best chance at delaying that outcome, at least.

He was maybe 3rd for me. Definitely not first. I understand the questions, I don't understand the fury in all directions.

Saying "If you criticize Obama, you're a racist" is stupid no matter if it's said in earnest (by a tiny percentage) or said as a strawman argument.

It's not anywhere close for me. The more McCain dives into Bush/Rove territory and plants his names on the kind of ads even Bush didn't do, the more I know it's important that he lose. I'd support Clinton in a heartbeat, even though I didn't like the way her campaign went. It's not love of Obama so much as the the worry about what the hell McCain is capable of.


GravatarObama was about my 4th choice, but he's the nominee, and I'm going to help him get elected, because I don't want this country going totally down the tubes, and I think getting him elected is our best chance at delaying that outcome, at least.
Tlazolteot




I want my country back.

And anyone who has not been pissed off these eight years has NOT been paying attention.


GravatarAs I recall you would like to biopsy the immigrants

wtf?


Tlaz is against voting rights for orcas. The trollop.


GravatarLest you think I yam some young thang.... I was HS Class of '71.... I was what UCI referred to as a "non-traditional student"... i.e., older-than-dirt student. In my case, a transfer from Saddleback C.C.
emma in OC

Heh! We have a lot in common. I graduated Huntington Beach HS in '71, one year early. Drifted around for a while, came to UCI in '78 after time in the Army and in JC.


GravatarWe disagree: the Zionists have always conflated themselves with Judaism, even though before WWII they were a decided minority bucking a religious tradition that all but spelled out "No Zionism."

That's a common, but counterfactual belief. Zionism was a secular response to the realization that European anti-semitism was racism and that the enlightenment wishful thinking of the European Jews had run into the bone deep ethnic violence and exterminism of the European Christians. Some Jews realized that secular or protestant people of jewish descent would never be "european" and that the Japanese response to the New European Order worked.


GravatarTonight's random number is 56,232,124,543,491,012


GravatarFor the record, I recall S in Mich as an old Atriot, whom I remember positively, but with whom I disagree at the moment quite vehemently. That's all.

When he answered for Toby, I had to check for signs of parody, and still wasn't sure it wasn't a joke.


GravatarMy diet includes a tuna sandwich on wheat with peanut butter every day.


GravatarThe MST3k version is on HBO(n) now.
MikeJ | 08.03.08 - 12:23 am | #


Grrrrr, I hate that shit. Ruined the rep houses, for one thing, by leading to an epidemic of GenX smartassery at almost any movie made before 1960.

Speaking of movies, anyone ever seen Arch Oboler's "Bewitched"? Very weird and entertaining, with a genuinely creepy portrayal of insanity in a few spots.


GravatarFor the record, I recall S in Mich as an old Atriot, whom I remember positively, but with whom I disagree at the moment quite vehemently. That's all.

Seconded.


GravatarFor the record, I recall S in Mich as an old Atriot, whom I remember positively, but with whom I disagree at the moment quite vehemently. That's all.

Likewise. Which is why killfile has not yet been deployed chez moi.


GravatarMonsieur Verdoux is a 1947 black comedy film directed by and starring Charlie Chaplin.


I'm watching it right now.

Excellent film.


GravatarIt is actually possible to invade and even "beat" Iran, but it would be something like invading and eventually beating the Democratic People's Republic of Korea: a hugely idiotic and perfectly preventable mess.


GravatarDemocratic 'division' seems to be largely a media creation, with virtually no basis in fact.

Democratic unity is a myth, as well.


GravatarThis blog sucks.


GravatarFor the record, Edwards was my choice, even after he dropped out of the race.

I like Obama. He's not my first choice, but he is the nominee. He has my vote, my support, my time & effort and my money.

Although, I must say, having Michelle as First Lady is going to rock! Reason enough to vote for Obama.


GravatarI'm watching Friday's episode of Monk.


GravatarVoting for McCain to preserve the Democratic Party. Sounds like "fucking for virginity".


GravatarJust signed on.
Any one posted about MoDo Sunday column: to wit, comparing this campaign to Jane Austen's novel "Pride and Prejudice" with Barack as Darcy, McCain as Wickham and the American voting public as Elizabeth Bennett. How long do we have to put up with this 8th grade literature class (& snotty cheerleader) bullshit. She does stab at Hillary's minions but what the hell, Jane Austen? A new low, even for Modo.


GravatarGastritis or diverticulitis

I treat mine with ginger ale. I luv spicy food, use way too much ground red pepper. I keep a couple of cans of ginger ale in the fridge, when I detect the bloating I down a can as fast as I can. Then lay on my stomach or side to apply it to the affected area.

If I'm out of ginger ale, 7-UP or a couple of shots of simple syrup works too.


Gravatar T4TN | 08.03.08 - 12:26 am | #

Well said. My first 2 choices were Dodd and Edwards. Hillary lost me when she started cozying up to Murdoch, Fixed News, and even McCain. Even though if she had been the nominee, I would have voted for her in a heartbeat. So now that Obama has won the nomination, he gets my money and my vote. Even if he is not a true progressive, its easier to get some progressive measures passed with a Dem in the WH than with a puke.


GravatarAlthough, I must say, having Michelle as First Lady is going to rock!


This, I can agree with!


GravatarHeh! We have a lot in common. I graduated Huntington Beach HS in '71, one year early. Drifted around for a while, came to UCI in '78 after time in the Army and in JC.
Positively cosmopolitan! I was Barstow Unified HS '71. Hubby was Loara High,(Anaheim) '66.


GravatarGrrrrr, I hate that shit. Ruined the rep houses, for one thing, by leading to an epidemic of GenX smartassery at almost any movie made before 1960.

As a genX smart ass, I love MST3k. Of course it's impossible to really mock those movies with a true love of them. And of course many of those movies (not this one) deserved nothing more than mockery. (Mesa of the Lost Women?)


GravatarMikeJ, I will have to try to convince Matthew to come out. He's been a bit of a homebody lately. All the weirdness in the news is getting to him, I think. Bus beheadings and such...

But lord knows with the way work has been the last week or so, I could used an effin drink!


GravatarI recall S in Mich as an old Atriot, whom I remember positively, but with whom I disagree at the moment quite vehemently. That's all.

I remember S in Mich, as well. I'm not getting what his point is, though. Democrats should all vote for McCain, because Obama would be worse? Or that he, himself, is voting for and campaigning for McCain, because he doesn't think Obama is qualified an thinks Obama would be a worse president?


GravatarFor the record, I recall S in Mich as an old Atriot, whom I remember positively..

I apologize for my part in using "troll" but the irrational part is getting to me. I thought the "Hillary wuz robbed" people had settled a little bit.


Gravatar


rootless-e

We seem to hear theme music behind your somehow familiar argument ... something about this land belonging to Pat Boone ...


GravatarSaying "If you criticize Obama, you're a racist" is stupid no matter if it's said in earnest (by a tiny percentage) or said as a strawman argument.

If you criticize Obama by saying he is grossly unqualified for the task compared to a fuckwit whose major accomplishments are destroying US airplanes, surrendering, and being wrong about every major policy decision of the US government over the last 30 years, it's pretty much a safe bet that you are motivated by racism or sheer stupidity.


GravatarHOT MERGING ACTION!
/A Smartass Gen-X'er.


GravatarI treat mine with ginger ale.

That's an idea. I've been drinking lots of coconut water, which is very soothing...might not be bad with some ginger added, come to think of it.


GravatarThis blog sucks.
Toby Petzold

Just for you, kind of like that whole world turning thing.


GravatarEverytime I see McStain, I think two things:

(a) Endless war; and

(b) Supreme Court packed with fucking anti-choice fanatics.


GravatarPositively cosmopolitan! I was Barstow Unified HS '71. Hubby was Loara High,(Anaheim) '66.
emma in OC

Loara '66? Old guy 'course I have an "Old Guys Rule" sticker on my car


GravatarThis Chaplin movie is awesome; it's sort of a counterpart to the Simels-recommended Hitchcock from a couple of weeks ago.


GravatarAny one posted about MoDo Sunday column: to wit, comparing this campaign to Jane Austen's novel "Pride and Prejudice" with Barack as Darcy, McCain as Wickham and the American voting public as Elizabeth Bennett. How long do we have to put up with this 8th grade literature class (& snotty cheerleader) bullshit. She does stab at Hillary's minions but what the hell, Jane Austen? A new low, even for Modo.

I never read her column, just Molly Ivors reviews of her columns. Molly dubbed Dowd "The Prom Queen of Sulzberger High," which is just about perfect.


GravatarWe seem to hear theme music behind your somehow familiar argument ... something about this land belonging to Pat Boone ...
k&y, nyarlathotep | Homepage | 08.03.08 - 12:31 am | #


Don't let me distract you from your comfortable prejudices, but if you ever want to learn something factual about Zionism, you could start by learning about the religious backgrounds of Jabotinsky and Herzl.


GravatarThis blog sucks.
Toby Petzold





But yet, he's always here.


GravatarPhila, the later of those two illnesses is what brought me down about 2.5 years ago. I'm doing all right now, though the recovery was uncomfortable and long. A major change in diet and exercise was part of that.

Maybe that's all you'll have to do, if you've caught it soon enough. If so, get a referral to talk to a dietitian from your doctor.


Gravatar"As a genX smart ass, I love MST3k. Of course it's impossible to really
mock those movies with a true love of them. And of course many of those
movies (not this one) deserved nothing more than mockery. (Mesa of the
Lost Women?)
"

EEGAH!, Wild World of Batwoman (no relation whatsoever to the DC character), MITCHELL, et al, etc.

Some films deserve savage mockery, some just get a friendly ribbing.

This Island Earth got the ribbing.


GravatarIf so, get a referral to talk to a dietitian from your doctor.

Eat more fiber.


GravatarIf you criticize Obama by saying he is grossly unqualified for the task compared to a fuckwit whose major accomplishments are destroying US airplanes, surrendering, and being wrong about every major policy decision of the US government over the last 30 years, it's pretty much a safe bet that you are motivated by racism or sheer stupidity.

Nah. Could just be a difference of opinion. I can see someone thinking that a person who has been in the Senate for decades is more qualifed than a person who hasn't.


GravatarThis Chaplin movie just had a perfectly charming explanation of the green power source used by Portugal and a few other countries.


GravatarAs a genX smart ass, I love MST3k. Of course it's impossible to really mock those movies with a true love of them. And of course many of those movies (not this one) deserved nothing more than mockery. (Mesa of the Lost Women?)
MikeJ | 08.03.08 - 12:31 am | #


Yeah, I just have a stick up my ass about it, 'cause a) most people don't have the discernment to tell the difference between "Mesa of the Lost Women" and "Kiss Me Deadly," or Ophuls' "Caught"; and b) there's plenty of worse shit being made now that people take seriously as art, simply because it's too new / hip for them to dare to make fun of.


GravatarMITCHELL

Yes, you have to agree with their assessment of that film - it does, indeed, have the most disturbing sex scene ever filmed.


Gravatarmight not be bad with some ginger added, come to think of it.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint

Just try ginger ale straight, usually get relief within 20 minutes, lots better than suffering for 10-12 hours.


Gravatar
But yet, he's always here.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 | Homepage | 08.03.08 - 12:34 am | #


Well, the blog does tend to suck when there are fucking idiot repukes around.


GravatarA new low, even for Modo.

From the description it sounds like a step up from "Obama is a wussy boy who drinks lattes and eats arugula".
But that's damning with faint praise.

Darcy is the good guy, after all.

Wickham is the cad.

MoDo is still a waste, though. She's sounded bored to death for at least ten years now.


GravatarJohn McCain = experienced
Barack Obama = inexperienced

John McCain - supported invading Iraq
Barack Obama - opposed invading Iraq

Invading Iraq - super shitty insane idea

But people still insist McCain is experienced and Obama is inexperienced. Seems to me, Obama got it right on Iraq while McCain got it wrong, and no one can square that circle for me. It simply makes no sense. So I have to assume that something else is at work. I choose racism. If that ain't it, give me the real reason. Otherwise, I'm sticking with racism.


GravatarLoara '66? Old guy 'course I have an "Old Guys Rule" sticker on my car
Deacon Blues | 08.03.08 - 12:33 am | #
Yup, he's got the t-shirt! And it's twue, it's twue!


GravatarIf you criticize Obama by saying he is grossly unqualified for the task compared to a fuckwit whose major accomplishments are destroying US airplanes, surrendering, and being wrong about every major policy decision of the US government over the last 30 years, it's pretty much a safe bet that you are motivated by racism or sheer stupidity.

ding! ding! ding! ding! ding!
We have a winnah!


GravatarI remember S in Mich, as well. I'm not getting what his point is, though. Democrats should all vote for McCain, because Obama would be worse? Or that he, himself, is voting for and campaigning for McCain, because he doesn't think Obama is qualified an thinks Obama would be a worse president?

Yah, I don't follow either.

The presidency I'm increasingly convinced is a foolish institution. Electing a King every four years is kind of silly.

Increasingly I think that the modern GOP is not so much shredding the constitution, in the sense that they are violating Sacred Writ, but rather exploiting loopholes in an 18th century governmental document not really suited for the 21st century.


GravatarGastritis or diverticulitis

I treat mine with ginger ale.



Ginger tea is absolutely amazing. Slice some fresh ginger, simmer it in some water, sweeten however you can take it. Sugar is best, but honey or plain works, too.

Best thing for digestive issues I've ever tried. Instant relief.


GravatarCharlie Chaplin about to murder Martha Raye!


GravatarI recall S in Mich as an old Atriot, whom I remember positively, but with whom I disagree at the moment quite vehemently. That's all.

Don't care about memories. S in Mich is fucking insane at this very moment.


Gravatar"it does, indeed, have the most disturbing sex scene ever filmed."

Joe Don Baker and a bottle of baby oil should NEVER, EVER be in the same scene.

German schiesse porn is less disturbing.


GravatarOtherwise, I'm sticking with racism.
Snow (D-SC) | Homepage | 08.03.08 - 12:37 am | #

As is McCain, oddly enough.


GravatarMaybe that's all you'll have to do, if you've caught it soon enough. If so, get a referral to talk to a dietitian from your doctor.
Doug | 08.03.08 - 12:34 am | #


Thanks for the advice, and .glad to hear you're recovered. Am already working on improving my diet, which has been kinda bad the last few months (lots of restaurant food while househunting/moving, not nearly enough nonalcoholic fluid intake, and way too much bread generally). Definitely some room for improvement there....


GravatarBut yet, he's always here.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 | Homepage | 08.03.08 - 12:34 am | #

Well, the blog does tend to suck when there are fucking idiot repukes around.
left field, nostradumbass



True dat.


GravatarGinger tea is absolutely amazing. Slice some fresh ginger, simmer it in some water, sweeten however you can take it. Sugar is best, but honey or plain works, too.

Best thing for digestive issues I've ever tried. Instant relief.
V for Virginia, asshole


I just peel ginger and chew it--a little intense but good.


GravatarNah. Could just be a difference of opinion. I can see someone thinking that a person who has been in the Senate for decades is more qualifed than a person who hasn't.
masculine_monica_nyc


If Obama had been in the Senate for decades, the pukes would run against him as a Washington insider. However, since he is in his first term as Senator, they use 'inexperience'. It has nothing to do with experience, its just a puke talking point.


GravatarEating a cup of yogurt every day also makes your gut feel better. Though I don't know if you need to eat the special dannon kind. It only needs to be the yogurt with live bacteria in it.


GravatarChris, I was thinking about the toe emerging from under the covers to hook the six pack on the table and drag it back to the bed.

the horror....the horror


GravatarIncreasingly I think that the modern GOP is not so much shredding the constitution, in the sense that they are violating Sacred Writ, but rather exploiting loopholes in an 18th century governmental document not really suited for the 21st century.

That 18th century document is perfectly suited for the 21st century.


GravatarMolly dubbed Dowd "The Prom Queen of Sulzberger High," which is just about perfect.

Molly is annoying in how she keeps showing me up in the snark department on my own blog.


GravatarIf Obama had been in the Senate for decades, the pukes would run against him as a Washington insider. However, since he is in his first term as Senator, they use 'inexperience'. It has nothing to do with experience, its just a puke talking point.
left field, nostradumbass



We have a winnah!


Gravatarway too much bread generally

White bread and flour is food of the devil. (for me)


Gravatari EAT 2 yogurts everyday, and lots of fruits and vegetables, out of cans.


Gravatar
The presidency I'm increasingly convinced is a foolish institution. Electing a King every four years is kind of silly.


Nah, it's a good institution, and necessary after our experience with just a Leg as in the Articles. The problem is we have a Leg that has abdicated its responsibility to rein in the Exec, and people *act* like it's a King instead of an adminstrator. And our mode of electing it is stupid.


GravatarYup, he's got the t-shirt! And it's twue, it's twue!
emma in OC

We grow 'em big here in the OC


GravatarNah. Could just be a difference of opinion. I can see someone thinking that a person who has been in the Senate for decades is more qualifed than a person who hasn't.
masculine_monica_nyc | 08.03.08 - 12:35 am | #


There are people who are genuinely supporting mccain because they are just poorly informed or responding to republican brand or some other basically dumb but not reprehensible reason. But people who claim to be Democrats, yet who find Obama so unacceptably unqualified as to be forced to vote mccain are racists or just insane or both.


GravatarEating a cup of yogurt every day also makes your gut feel better. Though I don't know if you need to eat the special dannon kind. It only needs to be the yogurt with live bacteria in it.
Doug | 08.03.08 - 12:41 am | #


We have some u-pick berry farms fairly nearby, so I've been going the yogurt smoothie route. Tasty, and one of the only things that settled my stomach when it was at its worst....


Gravatar"White bread and flour is food of the devil."

But, without flour, we would not have pizza!

And pizza IS Nature's Perfect Food.


GravatarA vegetarian diet with a little meat is what works for me. Stay away from canned and processed crap.


GravatarIf the repubs flip one more SCOTUS seat, which they will do under McCain unless the Dems in Congress find a spine, then wombs become state property, at least in some states.

Visualize having to document for the State on a regular basis that you are not pregnant and have not used certain kinds of contraceptives. Visualize a State criminal investigation of every miscarriage to make sure it was not an abortion. Visualize cars being checked at state borders to make sure they are not carrying potentially pregnant women out of the state.

This is what it will take to enforce some of the laws that will inevitably be passed if Roe vs. Wade goes down.


GravatarGore Vidal has this old running joke about a second Constitutional Convention guarded against by the intelligentsia who fear what the rubes would do.


GravatarMy calorie intake is 3000 per day.


GravatarDemocrats should all vote for McCain,




Fuck that shit!


GravatarI just peel ginger and chew it--a little intense but good.
cosmic tumbler


MMMMMmmmmm. If I had to choose for life between ginger and garlic I'd jump off a bridge.

'night, left-wing lunatix. You are, like it or not, my people. Deal.

*MWAH!*


GravatarThat 18th century document is perfectly suited for the 21st century.

Is not. It whiffs the idea that loyalty to governmental branch would trump loyalty to party, for instance. Rather spectacularly.


GravatarYou can eat pizza, but make the crust from whole grain flour. It may take a little longer to rise, but it's better for you.


GravatarIncreasingly I think that the modern GOP is not so much shredding the constitution, in the sense that they are violating Sacred Writ, but rather exploiting loopholes in an 18th century governmental document not really suited for the 21st century.

I'm more concerned that they're using a 1400 year old book to justify the destruction of the Constitution.


GravatarVforV would love my garlic ginger beef, if she eats beef that is...


GravatarTralfaz | 08.03.08 - 12:44 am



Fucking scary.

And all very possible if McStain gets into power.

And he's against birth control, too.


Gravatar
Nah, it's a good institution, and necessary after our experience with just a Leg as in the Articles. The problem is we have a Leg that has abdicated its responsibility to rein in the Exec, and people *act* like it's a King instead of an adminstrator. And our mode of electing it is stupid.


Indeed that only strengthens my point.


GravatarThis is what it will take to enforce some of the laws that will inevitably be passed if Roe vs. Wade goes down.
Tralfaz | 08.03.08 - 12:44 am | #


And unfortunately, I think thats only the tip of the iceberg of what a repuke SCOTUS would do to the U.S.


Gravatar"It may take a little longer to rise"

I am an American! Instant gratification is my birthright!




GravatarI like, V4V.


GravatarI have diverticulousis and am currently taking a product called Gastro-Fiber that Standard Process makes. You can't get it over the counter. Its a food suppliment that can only be purchased through a health care provider (chiro/acupuncturist in my case). I've had substantial improvements in my energy levels, and in my overall health.


GravatarDemocrats should all vote for McCain,

OOOOOOOOOO! UR LOGIX! ITZ BLINDING US! Or not.


GravatarDudes, keep it down, we are mourning.


GravatarA vegetarian diet with a little meat is what works for me. Stay away from canned and processed crap.
Doug | 08.03.08 - 12:44 am | #


I've actually been vegan for about eight years, which my doctor thinks may be what has kept me from being worse off than I am...though of course that's a tough call.


GravatarI thought billmon was very much on point when he wrote that McCain doesn't give a rat's ass about the economy. It seems all he cares about is warmongering and making military contractors rich.

Very much like Bush and Cheney, come to think of it.


GravatarWhat makes you people such fucking idiots on the question of racism is that you don't know what it is. You think it's words, but it's really deeds.

Which comports perfectly with y'alls belief in thoughtcrime.

So suck on it.


GravatarAnd unfortunately, I think thats only the tip of the iceberg of what a repuke SCOTUS would do to the U.S.
left field, nostradumbas

An authoritarian SCOTUS would lead to the end of checks and balances and the beginning of naked emperors fucking everybody.


GravatarVery much like Bush and Cheney, come to think of it.
Tlazolteotl | Homepage | 08.03.08 - 12:49 am | #

'tis a real problem of millionaires. they don't give a shit about the economy.


GravatarVeganism is wrong for human beings. It's unnatural and degenerate.


GravatarWhat makes you people such fucking idiots ...zzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzz


GravatarIf you criticize Obama by saying he is grossly unqualified for the task compared to a fuckwit whose major accomplishments are destroying US airplanes, surrendering, and being wrong about every major policy decision of the US government over the last 30 years, it's pretty much a safe bet that you are motivated by racism or sheer stupidity.
rootless-e


barkeep, I'll be picking up that table's tab tonight.


GravatarThe presidency I'm increasingly convinced is a foolish institution. Electing a King every four years is kind of silly.

Yeah, I don't pay as much attention to the presidential elections as I do to other elections and to other political campaigns.

Increasingly I think that the modern GOP is not so much shredding the constitution, in the sense that they are violating Sacred Writ, but rather exploiting loopholes in an 18th century governmental document not really suited for the 21st century.

There seems to be no bedrock to ensure that the U.S. become a nation of laws, not people. And with the three branches of the federal government so out of balance and in all but complete deference to corporations and the monied class, it's not difficult to understand why so many people are estranged from politics.


GravatarJohn Kenneth Galbraith recently (well not that recently, but prior to his death) argued that the corrrupt CEOs like Ken Lay basically did have a legitimate point, that things move too fast for a board to worry about shareholder approval on everything. There is a comparable argument in the Unitary Executive left over from the Cold War, in that we don't want our all-important military bound by hundreds of legislators. To restore the Congress to its rightful place we must have an answer to that.


GravatarI love it when Toby gets hit with the thought that Obama's presidency is inevitable. It brings out the pure racist in him.


GravatarWhich comports perfectly with y'alls belief in thoughtcrime.

Says the guy who considers Obama a secret Muslim and Marxist, on the basis of evidence that's invisible to all sane people.


GravatarDuring the end of 05 I was sick enough that they had me on a water, antibiotic and smoothie diet, with no solid food for a few months. I lost about 30 lbs in that period.


GravatarVeganism is wrong for human beings. It's unnatural and degenerate.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 08.03.08 - 12:50 am | #

Eating meat is wrong and unnecessary for human beings, as well as wasteful and cruel. It's actually very unhealthy to eat meat.


GravatarWhat makes you people such fucking idiots on the question of racism is that you don't know what it is. You think it's words, but it's really deeds.

This is one of the more ignorant things you have ever said.


GravatarI'm watching Friday's episode of Monk.
ThatGuy

just did the same


Gravatar"I love it when Toby gets hit with the thought that Obama's presidency is inevitable. It brings out the pure racist in him."

Well, then!

January 20, 2009, shortly after noon, upon the steps of Congress, in Washington, D.C.:

"I, Barack Hussein Obama, do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. So help me God!"


GravatarEating meat is wrong and unnecessary for human beings, as well as wasteful and cruel. It's actually very unhealthy to eat meat.
ronjazz | 08.03.08 - 12:52 am | #


Don't even get into it, is my advice.

What Toby eats is his own fucking business, and if it's bad for him...well, boo hoo.


GravatarIf Obama had been in the Senate for decades, the pukes would run against him as a Washington insider. However, since he is in his first term as Senator, they use 'inexperience'. It has nothing to do with experience, its just a puke talking point.

Meh. That's just politics. The Democrats would do the same thing, if the situation were reversed.


GravatarVeganism is wrong for human beings. It's unnatural and degenerate.




Since you're wrong about everything else......


GravatarHey! Hey! Toby, by any chance have you heard Ludacris' newest?


GravatarI love it when Toby gets hit with the thought that Obama's presidency is inevitable.

Just today I was thinking, what are the goopers who are calling Obama "messiah" and "the one" gonna do when things are noticeably better under an Obama admin? I mean, I don't know any dems who think Obama is the messiah, but the goopers might have to say they believe it.


GravatarIt's actually very unhealthy to eat meat.

Well, I might argue that point a little bit, having been vegetarian for a dozen years and ending up in the ER with a crit of 10....but that's another story.


GravatarWell, there ya go.

Corksoaking Sonic had shut off their ice cream machine at 11:00.

Their ads say, "sweeter after midnight," my ass!

I went to Wendy's, way down yonder. Frosty. Blech.
.


Gravatar"I, Barack Hussein Obama, do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. So help me God!"

Chris Tucker | Homepage | 08.03.08 - 12:53 am | #


"Now will somebody please arrest those ignorant fuckers, bush and cheney"


GravatarAnd unfortunately, I think thats only the tip of the iceberg of what a repuke SCOTUS would do to the U.S.
left field,


And people like S in Mich will vote as a "homo" for McCain and such an outcome (he says) because Robert Byrd supports Barack Obama. I'm surprised the dude didn't bring up Kennedy's early support. That Kool Aid is mighty strong.

What the fuck?


GravatarEmpathy is the separating concept of the parties.


Gravatar
I went to Wendy's, way down yonder. Frosty. Blech.


Dude. DQ. Blizzard.


GravatarIs not. It whiffs the idea that loyalty to governmental branch would trump loyalty to party, for instance. Rather spectacularly.

I have no idea what this means , yet I am certain it is incorrect for several reasons.


GravatarLeft Field, seeing the Clintons suck up to McCain and burble about how qualified he was, and what a classy campaign itw oudl be with John & Hill was bad enough. Pretending Fox was fair was bad. Worse was cozing up with Scaife and his newspaper and worse then that - using smears from the American Spectator about McPeak being anti-Semitic.

The American..fucking...Spectator! That magazine had a sole purpose of trying to overturn Clinton's presidency and indulging in insane hatred for the entire family, for God's sake. The editor, R. Emmett Tyrrell, Jr., is one of the creepiest wingnuts who ever took a breath.
(Sorry - sore subject.) I'm amazed she didn't get much more grief for that. It's much like McCain kissing Bush's ass but worse. They did their best to destory their lives and overturn the election, with every insane rumor they could muster. And she allowed their sick rumors to be spread around by her staff.

OK...I'll settle now.


Even though if she had been the nominee, I would have voted for her in a heartbeat.

Hell, yes - I'm not a pouting child.
I would have gotten over the anger enough to know what was in my and my country's best interest. I'm sick of the crybabies.

And women who say they care about "women's issues" but say they're going to vote for McCain - I can't think of anything to say that isn't insulting. Because it makes absolutely no sense.


GravatarIs there a DQ in Kent?


GravatarWell, I might argue that point a little bit, having been vegetarian for a dozen years and ending up in the ER with a crit of 10....but that's another story.
Tlazolteotl | Homepage | 08.03.08 - 12:54 am | #

Well, I'm not sure what that means. But a well-balanced veg diet is perfectly healthy and better for the planet, and, for the most part, better for the body, especially if started at birth, with the exception of breast milk.


GravatarMokay. Time to slide out, get some z's and ready to ride in the morning. Nytol!


GravatarYou know what scares the shit out of us and what we wish would just never have happened is Freeganism. That is fucked up. And for some reason all the Freegans we see on TV and in real life (at work, when we're trying to throw away food that already smells) have kids and are teaching their kids to go through dumpsters.


GravatarMikeJ: Dude. DQ. Blizzard.

Nearest DQ is on the other side of the planet. Seriously. I'd rather driven to Kroger on Harding, and got some froz youg.
.


GravatarJust today I was thinking, what are the goopers who are calling Obama "messiah" and "the one" gonna do when things are noticeably better under an Obama admin?

Key word here is "noticeably." I know a guy who raked it in in the Clinton years, and went bankrupt in the Bush years. Guess which party he trusts with the economy...the effete metrosexual Dems, or the stern and manly GOP?


GravatarPassing through a neighborhood and enjoying the smells of freshly-cut lawn and burgers on the grill: that's America. Anyone who can't get into that is a fucking commie.


GravatarIs there a DQ in Kent?

Yup, and one in Auburn.


GravatarWhat Toby eats is his own fucking business, and if it's bad for him...well, boo hoo.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint



Bad enough the Repigs stick their noses in people's bedrooms....now, they want to extend the Big Brother shit to the kitchen, too?

They are in dire need of lives.


GravatarThe lyrics to Ludacris's anthem for Obama


GravatarJust today I was thinking, what are the goopers who are calling Obama "messiah" and "the one" gonna do when things are noticeably better under an Obama admin? I mean, I don't know any dems who think Obama is the messiah, but the goopers might have to say they believe it.

What did they do to Clinton when we had real peace and prosperity, where incomes were rising across the board, not just the boardroom?

I think if Obama solved all the problems in the M.E., oil falls to < $50 / barrel, we have real clean energy alternatives, and the U.S. achieves real prosperity again, the repukes will skip impeachment and instead call for his assassination.


GravatarEmpathy is the separating concept of the parties.

I don't think either party leadership has empathy for poor people.


GravatarWell, I might argue that point a little bit, having been vegetarian for a dozen years and ending up in the ER with a crit of 10....but that's another story.
Tlazolteotl | Homepage | 08.03.08 - 12:54 am | #


People are different, is all it comes down to.


GravatarI voted for Hillary back in March because I was insulted at the idea that Obama could actually become the nominee. It's still appalls me to consider it.


GravatarWell, I'm not sure what that means.

It means I had severe dietary anemia. And I agree, but it can be difficult to eat enough legumes. Maybe when I go through the menopause I will become a veg again, but right now, I am not going to take the chance.


GravatarDa' blues. Ain't you sorry to see us go, 'cause we're the last rational psychopaths left.


GravatarLawn? If grasses grow on my property I pull them out.

My land smells of Mesquite, and creosote bushes.

I used to have a few acres of 'lawn' at my last place. I don't miss it, the care, the cutting the watering. Ehhhggg.


GravatarAnyone who can't get into that is a fucking commie.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 08.03.08 - 12:58 am | #

You're just stupid. Too stupid to even be a commie. Fresh-cut lawns and burgers on the grill are anti-America. Part of the consumer society, the reason you, fats, are a slave to your own petty desires, educated by television commercials, and laughed at by republican ceos throughout the country.


GravatarBad enough the Repigs stick their noses in people's bedrooms....now, they want to extend the Big Brother shit to the kitchen, too?

If they could get away with making it mandatory to eat mine tailings, they would.


Gravatarthe stern and manly GOP



These people need to get over their daddy issues.


Gravatarunnatural and degenerate.
Toby Petzold


That's nice, dear.
-


GravatarOh, it's stupider here, tonight, than I thought.

I'll drop in tomorry!


GravatarIt's still appalls me to consider it.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 08.03.08 - 1:00 am | #

Bone-deep, fearful, ignorant racism always leads to that.


GravatarIf you'd seen my chest x-ray, you would have been scared too. My heart was like twice normal size, trying to keep my cells oxygenated. They told me most peeps with a crit of 10 (blood volume of red blood cells, normal is about 27) aren't walking around and conscious. It was no wonder I was tired all the time and out of breath, it was like living on Everest.


Gravatar'night, JP.


GravatarIt's still appalls me to consider it.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 08.03.08 - 1:00 am | #


I can't believe you're wasting self-loathing on something so trivial. Why not apply it where it might do some good?


GravatarGoodnight batses.


GravatarIt's still appalls me to consider it.

How about considering a loaded .38 in you mouth?


GravatarI have no idea what this means , yet I am certain it is incorrect for several reasons.

It means a GOP legislature laid down for a GOP administration so much so that the balance of powers is way out of whack. How is this even arguable?


GravatarHow about considering a loaded .38 in you mouth?
Supreme Commander Thor | 08.03.08 - 1:04 am | #

he's way to cowardly. he'll eat himself to death.


Gravatarpeeps with a crit of 10 (blood volume of red blood cells, normal is about 27)

But if it goes over 50, they'll ban you from le Tour.


GravatarIt's still appalls me to consider it.



Too bad.


GravatarWhen you hate me, I win.


GravatarAnd so to bed!




GravatarKey word here is "noticeably." I know a guy who raked it in in the Clinton years, and went bankrupt in the Bush years. Guess which party he trusts with the economy...the effete metrosexual Dems, or the stern and manly GOP?
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |

I owned a business (liquor store) from '91 to '05, I expanded 130% from 92 to 2001, dropped 10% a year from '02 to '04. Mainly due to energy policy. Don't believe it when they say people drink more during a downturn. If they can't afford to drive or heat their homes, drinking drops like a rock.


GravatarIf Obama had been in the Senate for decades, the pukes would run against him as a Washington insider. However, since he is in his first term as Senator, they use 'inexperience'. It has nothing to do with experience, its just a puke talking point.

Two things - and you nailed the first one but I'll add: anyone remember the constant sneering about "that awful career politician, who's been sucking off the public teat for YEARS.." yada yada. Of course, it never made sense. They didn't use it about Southern Republicans who had been holed up in the Senate for decades.

And if experience is so damn important to them how did they allow Duncey Dubya to trounce McCain in 2000? Or why didn't they vote for Gore over Bush ?

Of course - it's an excuse.


GravatarRonjazz,

Do you ever play any gigs?


GravatarIt means a GOP legislature laid down for a GOP administration so much so that the balance of powers is way out of whack. How is this even arguable?
Thers


This is why I consider them traitors. They put their party before their country.


Gravatarhe's way to cowardly. he'll eat himself to death.
ronjazz


Except for the gamey leg


GravatarThe editor, R. Emmett Tyrrell, Jr., is one of the creepiest wingnuts who ever took a breath.


If that man isn't clinically insane, he does one hell of an impersonation of it.


GravatarPhila, getting berries N, S, E or W of your coordinates?


GravatarIf that man isn't clinically insane, he does one hell of an impersonation of it.

thank you and g'nite


GravatarWhen you hate me, I win.

When we laugh at you, we win.

You're Chuckles the Clown, you just don't realize it.

I eat meat and soy - so there.


GravatarBut if it goes over 50, they'll ban you from le Tour.

Indeed, and it causes problems too. They took me off the SloFe when my crit got up to 37, it's dropped back down to normal now, and I'm feeling decent - I don't ever want to be sick like that for something I can avoid, so now I try to eat more balanced.

I wasn't eating enough legumes after my fave Etiopian place close to work closed, I know that was part of the problem.


GravatarWhen you hate me, I win.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 08.03.08 - 1:05 am | #

Who hates you? We just are telling you that your own hate makes you a loser, in every way. You win nothing. And when Obama returns the USA to some sort of reasonable balance and peacetime footing, and the jobs come back and the respect comes back, you'll still hate him, because it's all you can do. When you hate your country, as you do, nobody wins. That's why we have lost our standing in the world, because your hate has temporarily derailed the USA. if you are hated, you brought it on yourself. if you think that's a win, well, that's not surprising. You're never right about anything.


GravatarI think my neighbors up the hill met the friends they have over tonight at a Loud Talkers Anonymous meeting. There are at least four people talking right now, all at the top of their lungs. They're giving me a headache, and I'm a good 500 yards away, how do they share the same space on that deck?


GravatarRonjazz,

Do you ever play any gigs?
Trollanoia | Homepage | 08.03.08 - 1:05 am | #

All the time. played a gig with Brave Combo just this very evening. will play tomorrow, and wednesday, then will spend a week producing a large Festival, then more gigs. It's my lifelong work-avoidance program.


GravatarWhen you hate me, I win.


Don't flatter yourself.


GravatarHa, ha. It's like the sticker on the glass case. Break glass in case of emergency.


GravatarTlazolteotl, I dunno how the vegans do it, vegetarian is tricky enough... I have a friend who's a vegan marathoner. Must be a special kind of metabolism or something.


GravatarWhat do you win for being hated?


GravatarWhen you hate me, I win.
Toby Petzold


You're a loser and a nobody. A lowlife gov't worm. You are not worthy of my hate.


GravatarI don't understand why business people can still think republicans are good for their businesses. I can not think of an encouraging business indicator, except in the security, oil and defense businesses.

Brand America which used to be strong is now the laughing stock of the world.


GravatarWhat do you win for being hated?
Ali, spiritual advisor | Homepage | 08.03.08 - 1:12 am | #

Cheeto-In-Beard Award.


GravatarIt's not hate, it's loathing.


GravatarWhat do you win for being hated?
Ali, spiritual advisor


And isn't he making us win when he's here?


GravatarCheeto-In-Beard Award.
ronjazz


That'd be one ugly-ass trophy.


GravatarAnd isn't he making us win when he's here?
baba durag | 08.03.08 - 1:13 am | #

it's Pyrrhic.


GravatarIf that man isn't clinically insane, he does one hell of an impersonation of it.

Especially in the Clinton years. I don't know what's worse - how the magazine behaved aor the fact that people like that are perfectly acceptable on the right.

Other than his insane hatred of the Clintons, Tyrrell's only weirdly fascinating because like so many nasty right-wingers, he worships H. L. Mencken . The magazine promoted Mencken's books all the time and like Coulter, he slavishly copies the style. Mencken could be a real ass but he surely would have crushed a pissant like Tyrell in the blink of an eye.


GravatarAli, my ex SO is vegan; I still cook for him sometimes, so it isn't like I don't know how to do vegetarianism, it just seemed to conflict with being busy and still needing a lot of iron. My body got depleted over a period of several years, it too that long for me to realize that there was something very wrong. I actually went in to the doctor fearing I had leukemia (same symptoms as severe anemia).

On the other hand, I worry about the ex because he has some very severe skin issues, and I worry that he's missing some trace nutrient.


GravatarWhat do you win for being hated?
Ali, spiritual advisor



He equates it with being feared.



GravatarBrand America which used to be strong is now the laughing stock of the world.
Doug | 08.03.08 - 1:12 am | #


Thanks to the disastrous economic policies of bushco, America is now on sale at 50% off, and nobody's buying.


GravatarWhen you hate me, I win.

What do you win? A kewpie doll?


GravatarChris Tucker, Boston pizza is Nature's perfect food.

SoCal 'pizza' is not what it says it is


GravatarIs anyone here a MIDI wizard?

I'm trying to puzzle out a custom MIDI controller, that will run stepper motors for a custom instrument.


GravatarThis is why I consider them traitors. They put their party before their country.
baba durag | 08.03.08 - 1:06 am | #


Yep. And yet Toby calls other people commies.


GravatarErin, got 'em at a couple diff. farms on Sauvie Island.

The marionberries are amazing.


GravatarFresh (on BET) was released 24 August 1994, while Pulp Fiction was released October 14 that year. I'm be thinking I like the former the better.
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GravatarI'm trying to puzzle out a custom MIDI controller, that will run stepper motors for a custom instrument.
Doug | 08.03.08 - 1:16 am | #

Are you trying to program instruction sets? Or is it a foot pedal?


GravatarDoug, my baby brother is, but he's not here.  Typical of younger siblings not to be around when they're needed.


GravatarToby calls other people commies.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint


He considers anyone who disagrees with him a commie.


GravatarOn the other hand, I worry about the ex because he has some very severe skin issues, and I worry that he's missing some trace nutrient.

I believe that would be vitamin B-12.

Anyway there's one of the B vitamins that is almost impossible to get without eating some animal protein.


GravatarHe considers anyone who disagrees with him a commie.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 | Homepage | 08.03.08 - 1:18 am | #

He should move to N. Korea, then.


GravatarOK, I googled marionberry and of course I got Marion Berry.

But found the berry. Never heard of it before, I suppose blackberry cultivars aren't that well known outside of the PNW.


GravatarToby calls other people commies.

Retro, poorly done.


GravatarI don't think my cat quite understands that mouse-catching thing. He caught a mouse an hour ago, and he's been playing with ever since. He won't hurt it, just chase it around until he gets bored.


GravatarWhat do you win? A kewpie doll?

It's the little brats in the back of the car who sing "greasy grimy gopher guts" to annoy the adults. That's all.

Most people get past that stage at ..what...12 or so.

People like Toby and almost every RW radio/TV idiot alive never grew up and evolved.


GravatarAre you trying to program instruction sets?

For an actuator.


Gravatar"America is now on sale at 50% off, and nobody's buying."

They are waiting for the sunday coupons.


GravatarWhen you all acknowledge me for for having basic social skills, I win.


GravatarWhen you hate me, I win...

if you match any three - then you can match any three ...


GravatarI believe that would be vitamin B-12.

Anyway there's one of the B vitamins that is almost impossible to get without eating some animal protein.


Or taking a vitamin pill?


GravatarFor an actuator.
Doug | 08.03.08 - 1:19 am | #

Sorry, over my head.


Gravatarsounds like he enjoys only the mouse-catching thing, left field.


GravatarGuess there is a big controversy here over farms labeling packages as Marionberry, when they are actually common blackberries.


GravatarAnyway there's one of the B vitamins that is almost impossible to get without eating some animal protein.

Yeah, he takes spirulina sporadically in order to get B12, and I got him some flaxseed oil so he gets his omega 3s. honestly, I don't know if he's having food allergies (he does seem to have some sensitivity to wheat) or if he just doesn't have a varied enough diet because he's so busy - he's on the run all the time.


GravatarWhen you all acknowledge me for for having basic social skills, I win.
Thers | Homepage | 08.03.08 - 1:20 am | #

I think we're unqualified. call it a draw.


GravatarTlazolteotl, I dunno how the vegans do it, vegetarian is tricky enough... I have a friend who's a vegan marathoner. Must be a special kind of metabolism or something.
Ali, spiritual advisor | Homepage | 08.03.08 - 1:11 am | #


It's never posed any problems for me, but I ate a pretty healthy diet before switching over.....

I've known a few people who had shitty diets before becoming vegetarian or vegan, and accordingly ate tons of cheese, eggs, dough, and so forth. Not surprisingly, they ended up worse off.

But I like a wide range of foods from all over the world, and have always lived places where I had access to 'em. So for me, it's no big deal.


GravatarI know how to deal with the stepper motor code, it's the MIDI code that I'm unfamiliar with. Even so it has struck me that MIDI is what should control it.


GravatarFor an actuator.
Doug | 08.03.08 - 1:19 am | #


I got this flux capacitor laying around. You can have that.


GravatarAll the time. played a gig with Brave Combo just this very evening.


What do you play?


GravatarI don't think my cat quite understands that mouse-catching thing. He caught a mouse an hour ago, and he's been playing with ever since. He won't hurt it, just chase it around until he gets bored.
left field, nostradumbass

If you want a mouser, don't feed it so often. Otherwise it will play with it until it dies of shock.


GravatarAnyway there's one of the B vitamins that is almost impossible to get without eating some animal protein.

Or taking a pill once in a while. IIRC, the body stores it for some time, and it's really not that easy to become deficient in it.


Gravatarleft field, my cats do the same thing.  Of course, my cats are lazy and not terribly bright


Gravatarsounds like he enjoys only the mouse-catching thing, left field.
baba durag | 08.03.08 - 1:21 am | #


Yep, any critter that moves is his favorite toy. When they stop moving, no fun any more.


GravatarAre you trying to program instruction sets?

For an actuator.
Doug |


No help at all of course, but I'm developing a central scrutinizer earworm from this conversation.


GravatarHaving struck out at the grocer tonight, I shall have to stalk the wild huckleberry myself.

Boots, bucket - what else - oh yeah dope.
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GravatarSeriously, dude. Deal with this motherfucker appropriately. He is John Rider on steroids.


GravatarBut I like a wide range of foods from all over the world, and have always lived places where I had access to 'em. So for me, it's no big deal.

Please tell me you're not one of those people who eats natto?!


GravatarI don't know if he's having food allergies (he does seem to have some sensitivity to wheat) or if he just doesn't have a varied enough diet because he's so busy - he's on the run all the time.
Tlazolteotl | Homepage | 08.03.08 - 1:21 am | #


It's nice that you're considering other options! The only thing that really frustrates me about being vegan is that if you're ever sick with anything, certain people will insist it's 'cause of your diet.


GravatarWhen you all acknowledge me for for having basic social skills, I win.
Thers | Homepage | 08.03.08 - 1:20 am | #

You've got enough kids to start your own damned country. Start your own society.


Gravatarhad a cat once who caught a small jack rabbit. he was so excited he jumped around and played with it for a while, then ate only the ears. he was a tad strange.


GravatarThe only thing that really frustrates me about being vegan is that if you're ever sick with anything, certain people will insist it's 'cause of your diet.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint


You're easily frustrated because you're anemic.

(smiley)


Gravatar When they stop moving, no fun any more.

It's better than when they leave you half-chewed "presents" in the middle of the night.

And they're so proud of their work.


Gravatarit's the MIDI code that I'm unfamiliar with. Even so it has struck me that MIDI is what should control it.
Doug | 08.03.08 - 1:21 am | #

well, some is binary, some hex and some decimal, so I'm stumped for mechanical application, but, yes, it should work. Most of my MIDI info is for synths, so very specific, and the codes are not really the issue, since these instruments are made for idiots like me.


Gravatarleft field, my cats do the same thing. Of course, my cats are lazy and not terribly bright
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 08.03.08 - 1:23 am | #


He is so proud of himself when he catches something, he'll start meowing and chattering up a storm, "Lookie daddy, look what I caught".


GravatarIt's this MIDI command set that's giving me the headache.

Value (decimal) Value (Hex) Command Data bytes
128-143 80-8F Note off 2 (note, velocity)
144-159 90-9F Note on 2 (note, velocity)
160-175 A0-AF Key Pressure 2 (note, key pressure)
176-191 B0-BF Control Change 2 (controller no., value)
192-207 C0-CF Program Change 1 (program no.)
208-223 D0-DF Channel Pressure 1 (pressure)
224-239 E0-EF Pitch Bend 2 (least significant byte, most significant byte)


GravatarI don't think my cat quite understands that mouse-catching thing.

That's what cats do unless their hungry. Keep them short of food and they'll lose the play thing fast.


Gravatarleft one window open for the cat
hopefully those coyotes moved on


GravatarWhat do you play?
Trollanoia | Homepage | 08.03.08 - 1:22 am | #

frets, mostly, some fretless stuff, but mostly guitar and bass guitar family, mando, etc.


Gravatarphila, I just worry about his health, and the fact that he is so busy he doesn't watch what he eats enough. He eats the same few dishes all the time because he has a couple of faves at the vegetarian restaurant close to his work, and I worry that he isn't getting a wide enough variety. But he also sometimes eats too much wheat at times because he's on the run or someplace not vegan-friendly, and then he breaks out. But he is very fair-skinned and spends too much time in the sun without sunblock, and I worry about that too. So I realize that his skin problems probably have several different causes.


GravatarIt's this MIDI command set that's giving me the headache.


Doug | 08.03.08 - 1:28 am | #

Can't you just go with 0-127?


GravatarCharlie Chaplin's Limelight coming up at 2.


Gravatar"Central Scrutinizer"! Now there's a poster I haven't seen in a long while...
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Gravatar"Of course, my cats are lazy and not terribly bright"

Free meals, medical care, warm houses and beds, grooming, special treats, human entertainment.

Not terribly bright?


GravatarMost dietary problems are actually linked to eating too little rather than too much.


GravatarEkCenTrik, when you put it that way, we're the ones that look like idiots


Gravatar"Central Scrutinizer" was here a couple weeks ago for I don't know how long. I only saw two posts from him.


GravatarNew thread. This one is full.


Gravatarbaba durag |

Had a Siamese that caught full grown rabbits, liked to drag them into the house for snacking purposes.


GravatarMost dietary problems are actually linked to eating too little rather than too much.
jade


This is just silly.


Gravatar"Central Scrutinizer" was here a couple weeks ago for I don't know how long. I only saw two posts from him.
Doug


Sorry I missed him/her...
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GravatarCan't you just go with 0-127?

Probably. I'm trying to figure out which subset of the MIDI commands I can get away with and still have the machine produce music.

It's probably stupid to do this. It's most likely to be a one shot art piece, that I'll make one of.


GravatarCausation is violation. Motherfucker flinches, drill his ass. I told you baby, all the way down motherfuckers spine. That's how its done.


GravatarMister X - CS is a him


GravatarWhat was Jeffrey wearing tonight, Ronjazz?

Where is Ann?

Do you know any other Denton musicians?


GravatarMister X - CS is a him
ErinPDX


Figured, but for some reason the scotch told me not to assume. I will stop listening to the scotch.
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