I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Indeed it is
From below because it made me feel sooo happy:
From TPM:
An Associated Press analysis of the nearly 25,000-vote difference in Minnesota presidential and U.S. Senate race tallies shows that most ballots lacking a recorded Senate vote were cast in counties won by Democrat Barack Obama.
Bye, Norm!
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Jeffraham Prestonian
Bad porn mustache, too
I!
AM!
BEEROCK!
.
It'd be great to get Coleman out of the Senate.
yeah man, give atrios a cite.
Gromit, are you a birder?
The park contains breeding populations of 15 bird of prey species and other two are likely reproducing here. Among them are Andean Condor, Black-chested Buzzard-eagle, Rufous-tailed Hawk, Cinereous Harrier, Chimango Caracara, Magellanic Horned Owl, Austral Pygmy-owl, to name but a few.[7]Other birds occurring in the park include the Chilean Flamingo, Darwin's Rhea, Coscoroba Swan, Black-necked Swan, Magellanic Woodpecker, Magellan Goose and Buff-necked Ibis.
Would be amazing.
[reposted from downstairs. Oh, and Friedman sucks]
Okay, off to the city for my traditional evening of elitist chardonnay quaffing with my satanic commie negro pals.
There's an amusing new Listomania up (theme: The Heat is Hot) over at the homepage, for those who care. And if you'd care to weigh in on the Coolest Overlooked Thrillers over at Box Office, that would groovy.
http://boxoffice.com/blogs/steve...eve...nia-spec-
22.php
Talk to you all probably much later tonight, or tomorrow morning.
Wang chung in my absence, won't you?
It's time for the Atrios Unit, that makes right analyses and projections, AnyTime.
And predicts correctly that the slime will leave booby traps, see http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com/
Check out the unit on that Friedman.
Better, yet, don't.
Steve Unelectable© Simels: Wang chung in my absence, won't you?
No.
But I will Safety Dance, if you like.
.
Hat does his WATB in 5, 4, 3...
yes, it is. the FU started here by the FL.
hail to our dad.
young for a dad, but still a dad.
I recognize that the Obama Presidency will not be the fantasy Atrios presidency.
Fantasy Atrios presidency: everyone owns a SUPERTRAIN.
GIVE ATRIOS HIS FRIEDMAN UNITS DAMMIT!!
We don't get the solar panels back on the WH?
"Fantasy Atrios presidency: everyone owns a SUPERTRAIN."
..and lives downtown, next to a carshare.
I had a teacher in grammar school named Mr. Fish. His wife was a Fish wife.
I love this quote from Friedman: "I feel responsible. But I don't feel sorry for believing that we need to find a way to collaborate with people to give birth to a different politics in that part of the world."
I can't even find a way to mock it. It mocks itself.
Hat does his WATB in 5, 4, 3...
Meth Mouth
I feel sorry for people who don't know when they've been thoroughly beaten.
Ali & Erin,
If you can shove some of that rain down the coast, it would be greatly appreciated here. We need a couple more good soakings before I'd consider the forests fire-free.
I'm blowing hard bo
I had a teacher in grammar school named Mr. Fish. His wife was a Fish wife.
ronjazz
Outspoken women are "fishwives."
That expression is from century...the 18th?
Well, I reckon I'll go pick up some Flying Saucer bling.
bbl
.
I don't feel sorry for believing that we need to find a way to collaborate with people to give birth to a different politics in that part of the world.
Collaborate. I don't think that word means what you think it means.
Ooops -
That expression is from WHAT century...the 18th?
Bo, I'll try to wrestle the gulf stream further south, but I don't blow like Erin blows.
"I feel responsible. But I don't feel sorry for believing that we need to find a way to bomb the shit out of people to give birth to a different politics in that part of the world."
fht.
I spec'ed the formalized Bureau of Wieghts and Measures' definition of the FU.
I recognize that the Obama Presidency will not be the fantasy Atrios presidency
The Man said himself Tuesday night he would make mistakes.
That's more than Chimpy ever admitted.
Tom Friedman - blood on his hands - ain't enough soap in the world to change that.
Your criticism of Barack Obama didn't result in anyone's death.
BIG difference.
Harricane Paloma heading for Cuba with 140 mph winds...
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/...?
large#contents
Pretty rough year for those folks.
I don't work for the Department of Spelling, though.
Gromit, are you a birder?
I'm learning, and we'll have our binocs and cameras with us. I raally wanted to go south of the equator, but 51° south may be a bit too far for early December. It'll be fun, if not toasty.
Hmm... I know a person of Some Consequence at the New Yorker. Yes, the New Yorker.
If I can find his current email address, I'll let him know.
"Tom Friedman was a supporter of the Iraq war. He encouraged it, and even as it went bad, kept telling us to hang in there for another 6 months."
None of HIS family over there, I'll bet.
I nver make spelling mistakes.
omg..MI is winning a game.
Fantasy Atrios presidency: everyone owns a SUPERTRAIN.
Richard |
A lot of creepy weird and pretty ponies too.
And lots of non-non-white people making music.
I nver make spelling mistakes.
Richard
Reminds me of those erasers.."I Never Make BIG Misteaks."
The outgoing President sees the election of America's first black commander in chief as a "pretty cool" tribute to the strength of American democracy, and believes the image of his successor in charge will help spread freedom around the globe, according to a well-connected ally.
A national security expert at a major Washington think tank, who talks regularly with White House staff, has revealed that Mr Bush became emotional as results came in on Tuesday night.
Mr Bush was apparently hit by the realisation that the election signals the start of his final days in the White House after eight turbulent years.
But the President also talked passionately to his aides about the prospect of overseeing the peaceful transfer of power to his African-American successor, a transition Mr Bush regards as an example to less free nations the world over.
The Republican source said: "Bush's whole foreign policy has been based on spreading democracy abroad but this week we showed why American democracy is an example to the world. We're the beacon state.
"That hit home on Tuesday. He was clearly moved by the whole thing. A lot of Republicans were. We might have preferred McCain to win but everyone enjoys the significance of the moment. I think the president felt that Obama's victory was pretty cool."
Mr Bush seemed genuinely moved at the verdict of the voters, which was otherwise an almost total repudiation of his two terms in office, when he spoke at the White House on Wednesday morning.
After the Obama victory, nothing would make me happier politically than seeing Franken win Minnesota.
Guarantees at least another full week of wingnut head spinning.
Ministry of Truth has taken over NOAA, I see. Hurricane Paloma, 140 mph winds. Paloma = Dove.
"If I can find his current email address, I'll let him know."
please do.
unattributed naked snarkish slogans must not stand!
I think that the NY'er piece did not fully explain the wisdom of the F.U. always beginning anew with every dawn, sort of like South Park's Kenny.
That's the beauty of the Friedman Unit: it makes six months effectively infinite. It's almost as good a catch as that Catch-22, which as everyone knows is the best there is.
We don't get the solar panels back on the WH?
Ruth | Homepage | 11.08.08 - 2:56 pm |
They're already back:
http://www.ecomall.com/
greenshop...rwhitehouse.htm
http://blog.coolerplanet.com/200...he-white-house/
I like the Sully quote at the top of that article.
The fact that he now sometimes makes sense doesn't obscure the fact that he's said some really stupid, nasty shit over the past several years.
Just think how many men are saved as long as Terry spents her nights here and not in meatspace.
Three cheers for the internet.
Mr Bush seemed genuinely moved at the verdict of the voters, which was otherwise an almost total repudiation of his two terms in office, when he spoke at the White House on Wednesday morning.
He doesn't care.
Deviant sociopath.
We've taken a giant step with prejudice re: blacks. But how about mooslims? And the counterpoint to that prejudice, Israel, I won't say in general jews.
That's so big no one will talk about it. A few articles here and there about how Islamic Americans hunkered down, couldn't openly campaign for Obama for fear of creating backlash.
Regarding Friedman, something of that dynamic is included.
Mr Bush seemed genuinely moved at the verdict of the voters,
Dear Mr. Preznit:
Genuinely -- just move.
Bush is a deviated prevert.
The Friedman Unit was a pretty great observation. Perhaps a book with that title?
Three cheers for the internet.
just sayin | 11.08.08 - 3:04 pm | #
Wow, you are really lonely.
No wonder.
The fact that he now sometimes makes sense doesn't obscure the fact that he's said some really stupid, nasty shit over the past several years.
His true self is the slimy, self-hating little fascist that tried so hard to ingratiate himself with his wingnut masters.
Like any one of them wouldn't take the first opportunity to make a fucking lampshade out of him...
A few articles here and there about how Islamic Americans hunkered down, couldn't openly campaign for Obama for fear of creating backlash.
It was perfectly okay for Arab-Americans to campaign for Bush in 2000, but a different story in 2004 and 2008.
9-11 changed everything. It emboldened all the bigots out there.
the michigan team seems to have won some sort of siena pottery vessel, and are holding it aloft triumphantly.
all hail the pottery vessel!
I!
AM!
BEEROCK!
Wow! My father used to make the best beerocks EVER!
For NTodd: , cause he likes it so much.
"Stepping Back, Norm Coleman-Style
by BarbinMD
Sat Nov 08, 2008 at 11:05:03 AM PST
First, a reminder of what Norm Coleman was saying the day after the election, when he was leading by 725 votes:
"Yesterday the voters spoke. We prevailed," Coleman said Wednesday at a news conference. He noted Franken could opt to waive the recount.
"It's up to him whether such a step is worth the tax dollars it will take to conduct," Coleman said, telling reporters he would "step back" if he were in Franken's position.
And now that his lead has been cut to 221 votes before the recount has even started? A visit to Coleman's website shows this:
SUPPORT OUT RECOUNT EFFORTS
[...]Sheehan said while the Coleman campaign will not rule out filing a lawsuit challenging election results, it is too early to speculate on that possibility.
It seems that the more Norm hears the voters speaking, the less he likes it."
http://www.dailykos.com/
Shit,
Penn State v. Iowa
or
Alabama v. LSU?
the 'bama game is definitely the better contest but...
fuck the south...(?)
Mr Bush seemed genuinely moved at the verdict of the voters, which was otherwise an almost total repudiation of his two terms in office, when he spoke at the White House on Wednesday morning. - Chimpy acting weird
Bunch of horsehit to cover the wholesale havoc his final 11 weeks of Executive Orders and other directives are going to inflict on the environment and personal freedoms.
Make that 10 weeks. The last week's going to be devoted excluively to writing Pardons.
Wow, you are really lonely.
No wonder.
ronjazz
Not really. He can always become his own girlfriend.
Like he always does.
I don't feel sorry for believing that we need to find a way to collaborate with people to give birth to a different politics in that part of the world.
First, I don't think bombing the shit out the Iraqis and doing our utmost to destroy their culture, their economy and their history constitutes "collaboration" by almost anyone's definition.
Second, this is just the sort of variation on the "white man's burden" at which Friedman excels. Any student of history (rather than blatherers of freedom through "free" markets) will tell you that successful free societies develop organically from within... and that the United States has been perfectly happy to destroy such organic democratic movements when such served U.S. domestic political or corporate interests.
Collaboration my ass.
Mr Bush seemed genuinely moved
...during his congratulatory speech, right at the end. Also, when he instructed his cabinet do double duty: their jobs, plus transition work.
He IS human, we forget that. Maybe just realizing it for the first time.
Hope he comes down with crippling arthritis just as he prepares to write the pardons for Cheney and himself.
Plan to Send Hot Air Balloon to Saturn's Moon Titan
http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/
20...TSRe.Ht_chbsa8F
i'd go Penn State v. Iowa.
network?
I just googled "siena pottery vessel"
and got "Sienna Miller."
Bunch of horsehit to cover the wholesale havoc his final 11 weeks of Executive Orders and other directives are going to inflict on the environment and personal freedoms.
Actually, it's 11 weeks of heavy, heavy drinking and nothing else.
Cheney's doing all the work. And a machine will sign Chimpy's name...
He IS human, we forget that. Maybe just realizing it for the first time.
Yeah, right. Human with some rather inhuman tendencies. We forget that.
just googled "siena pottery vessel"
and got "Sienna Miller."
Terry C - Got My Country Back!
Bwahahaha!
He IS human, we forget that. Maybe just realizing it for the first time.
el | 11.08.08 - 3:08 pm | #
He's trying to ACT human. He never made it to the real human being level. he's missing several fundamental human qualities.
"Mr Bush seemed genuinely moved"
He was probably advised by Condi and that crowd to LOOK that way.
ATRIOS PRESIDENCY!!!
"Mr Bush seemed genuinely moved"
Drunks often exhibit unwanted and overwraught emotional displays...
He IS human, we forget that.
Fuck him, I can't forget the last eight years. No forgiving him in this house.
And a machine will sign Chimpy's name...
dave™©
You all HAVE heard, haven't you, that there are NO takers for his memoirs.
Regnery will probably wind up printing it. The big publishing houses won't touch it.
He IS human, we forget that.
BZZZZZZZZZZZZT! Oooooh, no, wrong, sorry.
We have some lovely parting gifts...
Fuck him, I can't forget the last eight years. No forgiving him in this house.
Kareem Cheese
I think of all the people who are dead and maimed because of him.
ATRIOS PRESIDENCY!!!
AB | 11.08.08 - 3:10 pm |
Sometimes, I still wake up and think it was a dream.
You all HAVE heard, haven't you, that there are NO takers for his memoirs.
That's really gotta piss him off... he was counting on a big chunk of advance cash to get him out of the country Jan. 21...
Time to revisit the campus pie-ing of Tom in his black cashmere turtleneck; verily, mates, one the great moments of the campaign season.
Shorter Friedman in perpetuity: I know everything and you don't. Fuck him.
Already reported here, but I like Josh Marshall's characterization..
NORM GETTIN' SQUIRRELLY, PT. 2
Apropos of my post below, I'm getting word that Coleman may be in the process of fielding the lawyers for a replay of President Bush's 2000 recount smackdown. And this from the Associated Press gives a clue to why he is getting worried ...
An Associated Press analysis of the nearly 25,000-vote difference in Minnesota presidential and U.S. Senate race tallies shows that most ballots lacking a recorded Senate vote were cast in counties won by Democrat Barack Obama.
--Josh Marshall
"Mr Bush seemed genuinely moved"
fuck him. it took a lot of effort to be the worst president ever, but he suceeded.
I think Bush was kinda torn over the election. He wanted the GOP to win but he's hated McCain since 2000 for having the nerve to beat him in New Hampshire.
evening fablous moonbats 
http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/F...i/
Friedman_Unit
One Friedman Unit, also known as "one Friedman" or "one F.U.", equals six months in the future.
The term is a tongue-in-cheek neologism coined by blogger Atrios (Duncan Black) on May 21, 2006, in reference to the discovery by Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting (FAIR) of journalist Thomas Friedman's repeated use of "the next six months" as the time period in which, according to Friedman, "we're going to find out...whether a decent outcome is possible" in the Iraq War. As documented by FAIR, Friedman had been making these six-month predictions since November 2003.
You all HAVE heard, haven't you, that there are NO takers for his memoirs.
Entitled "Golf Cart One"
Iraqis dying of Cholera thank Friedman
George W. Bush is human, certainly.
As such he is to be held responsible for his actions.
When does the war crimes trial start?
I think of all the people who are dead and maimed because of him.
And it continues...
At the end of the day you fuckers still have to answer to Saints.
was that creamette for me or the chimp?
ok, maybe he's NOT human...
You all HAVE heard, haven't you, that there are NO takers for his memoirs.
Entitled "Golf Cart One"
Gromit
Let's see....he either makes himself out to be another FDR.
Or he whines about how he was persecuted and misunderstood.
dog dammit fuck war enablers like Friedman
fuck them twenty times with a red hot iron poker in every orifice
Wow! My father used to make the best beerocks EVER! - dave™©
When you pulled his finger?
Whadenell is a beerock?
he's hated McCain since 2000 for having the nerve to beat him in New Hampshire.
Lumpenprolitariot
McCain's only been one of his biggest fellators SINCE then.
this is DJ BHO
so listen up all you ho's
I'm all fo bitches having equal rights and junk
but when it comes to giving orders big barry don't like that funk
we all know how this shit's gonna fly
my crack committee is all white guys
please stop yapping your gums
hussein is hungry, bake me some yums!
At the end of the day you fuckers still have to answer to Saints.
Le Jackel
No problem. I'm from New Orleans.
Drew Brees and I are like that (crosses fingers)
Soon, very soon.
oppressed become oppressor? - Mosul, Iraq (AINA) -- Kurdish soldiers carried out a search operation in Assyrian homes in Mosul between September 15 and the beginning of October, confiscating weapons the families were keeping for protection. The confiscations and searches were only carried out in Assyrian homes, especially in the Al Sakr and Al Bakr neighborhoods. One man, speaking on condition of anonymity, says he was the only non-Muslim in his neighborhood. Soldiers from the mainly Kurdish Second Army Unit in Mosul came to his house in three military vehicles, ordering him to surrender any weapons he had. They did not approach any other residents of his neighborhood. Several other Assyrians (also known as Chaldeans and Syriacs) AINA interviewed told a similar story.
AINA has learned that agents from the Kurdish Asayesh intelligence service are currently confiscating ration cards of families who have fled from the violence in Mosul (AINA 10-16-200
to the Nineveh Plain. The families are told the only way for them to retrieve their ration cards is to remain permanently in the Nineveh Plain.
Several independent sources have accused the two dominate Kurdish political parties of staging the attacks against Assyrians for political reasons. Several Iraqi MPs have pointed out the KDP party, headed by Massoud Barazani, is responsible (AINA 10-17-200.
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m4859...&hd=&size=1&
l=e
Racist trolls.....how pathetic.
http://www.cooks.com/rec/search/
...beerock,FF.html
tm Dave, which recipe is most like your Dad's?
OKAY THEN, Let's get on to prosecuting the bush crime family then, okay?
Iraq's medical professionals have reacted with caution to a government waiver that doctors be allowed to carry arms for self-defence purposes.
The Baghdad government is hoping the arms initiative will improve security conditions to lure doctors who now reside in Syria, Jordan, Egypt and the Gulf back to the country.
Nadhim Abd al-Hamid, the chairman of the Iraqi Physicians Union, welcomed the decision considering it as part of psychological tactic.
He said: "It would make doctors feel more confident, and give a message to assailants that doctors are armed so they would think twice before attacking them."
Hussain Mousa, the union's representative in the southern Iraqi province of al-Muthana wants the government to ensure better security for doctors rather than licensing gun ownership.
"The decision is definitely positive, and would protect doctors; however, we would hope that Iraqi government would work hard on enforcing the rule of law rather than allowing doctors to carry guns," he told Al Jazeera.
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m4858...&hd=&size=1&
l=e
doctors with guns
GOPers fucking around...
http://thehill.com/leading-the-n...2008-11-
07.html
House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) on Friday cast doubt on a lame-duck session, saying one might not be held if there’s no deal with the White House on a stimulus.
If there’s no deal, House leaders may scuttle everything but the reorganizing session planned for the week leading up to Thanksgiving, Hoyer told a group of reporters.
“Clearly there’s no point in us doing something if the administration is going to take the position that they’re not going to sign something,” Hoyer said.
The impetus for a stimulus seemed to grow Friday with a jobs report showing unemployment rising to 6.5 percent. Business groups have also called for a stimulus, which they say should include help for a U.S. automobile industry increasingly in dire straits.
But Hoyer said talks with leaders in the Senate and the White House on a stimulus have failed to make headway.
“We still don’t have any agreement to do that,” Hoyer said.
Calling Congress back for a lame-duck without stimulus legislation that can make it into law isn’t “particularly useful,” Hoyer said.
At the same time, the majority leader did say that if legislation is deemed necessary for the auto industry, such legislation in and of itself “could be enough” to warrant a lame-duck.
Democrats have been crafting a stimulus bill that will likely take the form of tens of billions — if not hundreds of billions — of dollars in unemployment insurance benefits, food stamps, aid to the states in the form of Medicare and Medicaid payments and transportation and infrastructure spending. The Bush administration has balked at some of these proposals, and Hoyer’s comments could pressure the White House into offering concessions.
----
Wouldn't want to help those "lucky duckies", would we GOP?
Just got home from the bike ride from hell. I'm angry, tired, drunk, and stupid.
doctors with guns
Hide your cash.
-
You all HAVE heard, haven't you, that there are NO takers for his memoirs.
Working title: Pretzel Logic
well the Iraq war was good for some people - Shell and the ministry are currently negotiating the terms of the joint venture company. On Sept. 22 the two signed what’s known as a "Heads of Agreement," basically a rough draft of the contract, a legal framework establishing the management team and the scope, purpose and other details of the company.
Though it’s non-binding, the confidential document is telling.
If the joint venture company is finalized as outlined in the HOA, it would give Shell the largest role in Iraq’s oil and gas sector since the 1960s, when the world’s Big Oil firms were kicked out after 40 years of virtual control of exploration, production, exports, and payments to the government.
The joint venture will be the "sole gas company engaged in business," as outlined in the HOA, "and providing gas for domestic and export markets and generating revenues from gas marketing activities."
At the time of the HOA signing, Shell and ministry officials pitched the future joint venture company’s role as utilizing for domestic needs the natural gas currently being wasted in Basra province. Iraq would own 51 percent and Shell 49 percent. …
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m4857...&hd=&size=1&
l=e
Cheney's doing all the work. And a machine will sign Chimpy's name... - dave™©
I defer to your consumate cynicism.
Do me a fave, I gotta run but there's an article in SFGate today about the Forest Service & National Parks getting sandbagged on Gas Lease and Mineral Rights auctions in Utah.
Could ya throw up a link? Thanks.
Just got home from the bike ride from hell. I'm angry, tired, drunk, and stupid.
Did you buy 10,000 marbles during you ride?
People are buying guns in fear of libruls banning their sale.
WE need to confirm their fears.
We should have a pool on how many times Norm Coleman goes running to the courts to try to stop people's votes from getting counted from now through the end of the recount process.
It's mine, damnit, mine!
It's easy to hate big media.
Iraqi doctor:
I'll deal with your infection as soon as I kill that soldier outside.
I'm angry, tired, drunk, and stupid.
With more effort and much less honesty, you could become a troll.
People are buying guns in fear of libruls banning their sale.
WE need to confirm their fears.
Gomez
WHEN did SO many Americans turn into a bunch of paranoid nutcases?
Iraqi Doctor:
'your money or your life'
Bush won't sign a stimulus package because it will be the first thing that Republicans filibuster next year.
I'll deal with your infection as soon as I kill that soldier outside.
leibniz leibkins
something like post 911 pilots
everyone is arming themseleves in Iraq
even the Iraqi Christians are forming their own militias
WHEN did SO many Americans turn into a bunch of paranoid nutcases?
1984
Terry C - I'm thinking it was right about the time Rush started broadcasting.
George W. Bush is human, certainly.
That's open to debate.
People are buying guns in fear of libruls banning their sale.
I'm buying a super soaker.
even the Iraqi Christians are forming their own militias
Moonbootica, Brit Lefty
Should not be surprising that christians would form a militia.
Terry C - I'm thinking it was right about the time Rush started broadcasting.
Lindsay, clean fucking hippie
Could be.
She was dying. Her blood ran red down the Dead Moose’s shirt.
The Dead Moose carried the device under his left arm.
She cursed at her fate but she was born to it. (not really lyrical enough: ed)
“Oh right,” demurred the Dead Moose.
With more effort and much less honesty, you could become a troll.
FUCK that, dammit
*Rummages for wrist rocket and bb gun*
George W. Bush is human, certainly.
Only if he survives dunking for several several minutes.
New Zealand's prime minister, Helen Clark, has said she is willing to strike a deal with the unaligned Maori party if her Labour party enjoys a surge in the country's general election today.
Neither Clark's coalition nor the National party, led by the 47-year-old former investment banker trader John Key and backed by the hard-right, is expected to gain a majority in the 123-seat parliament.
Tariana Turia, co-leader of the Maori party, said her members were prepared to put either the National party or Labour into government, depending on the deal on offer. "We'll decide totally based on ...what we are able to advance for our people," she said this week.
The country's complex proportional voting system ensures significant numbers of seats go to a handful of small parties, and the Maori party is expected to retain its four seats in the vote.
Among the Maoris' demands are the repeal of a law that stops them claiming rights to the foreshore and seabed, and greater control over government spending on indigenous programmes to prevent waste. Maoris account for 15% of New Zealand's 3.4 million population and are among its poorest and least healthy citizens, suffering higher unemployment and crime rates than most others.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/...land-world-
news
My Pitt Panthers just beat the shit out of Louisville.
...there's an article in SFGate today about the Forest Service & National Parks getting sandbagged on Gas Lease and Mineral Rights auctions in Utah.
Here 'tis...
George W. Bush is human, certainly.
Only if he survives dunking for several several minutes.
QuentinCompson, Negatory
Waterboard him.
Wazzup, Ralphie? What happened?
Barack meets the Chimp on Monday.
Think they'll discuss whether Bush is going to jail?
Barack meets the Chimp on Monday.
Think they'll discuss whether Bush is going to jail?
Gomez
I'd be happy if Obama kicks him in the 'nads.
Doesn't the New Yorker still have its factcheckers?
Think they'll discuss whether Bush is going to jail?
Truthfully, no. I don't think Obama has any intentions in that direction.
Now we can enforce the Karl Rove subpoenas.
I still want them all in jail.
Think they'll discuss whether Bush is going to jail?
we have a right to expect a crucifixion by history, though
JP: Well why don't you run for office?
DR:See, that's a very good idea. I might have to do that one day. Dizzee Rascal for prime minister, yeah! Wassappenin'! Barack Obama embraced hip-hop, man. That's the way he got through to kids. There was a more young vote ever. And it was through hip-hop!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/...xman-jeremy-
bbc
The NYr has let facts slide for years.
I should like some tea and some buttered toast. With home made apricot preserves.
'Enkew.
Does anyone have a recommendation for a not-too-pricey smartphone on which I could read this blog? I really shouldn't be accessing it from my work PC, but it's become impossible to make it through a weekday without reading your comments. Damn you
I can provide the tea and toast, but no preserves. Not even store-bought jam here today. 
Jeremy Paxman: How does it seem to you?
Dizzee Rascal: It's positive. It's positive because he is mixed race as well, so he is an immediate, immediate symbol of unity. And I think, know what, hip-hop played a big part in this as well. I don't think he could have done it without hip-hop. Hip-hop is what encouraged the youth to, um, get involved in voting and making the place better and he is the first president to embrace it.
JP: Sorry to interrupt you, but ... could you see this happening in Britain?
DR: Yeah. In time.
JP: You're rather positive!
DR: Yeah, man. Why not, man? There's a first time for everything, isn't there? ... if you believe you can achieve, innit?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/...xman-jeremy-
bbc
Fuck this transition shit.
Put them all in jail right after the inauguration.
I'd be happy if Obama kicks him in the 'nads.
Terry C
yeah but a journo asked him about that at his presser, and he got all cordial toward the chimp. Better save his wrath until he takes over the big house, wouldn't want chimp trashing the place.
...or cutting down the rose garden with his chainsaw
There's a first time for everything, isn't there? ... if you believe you can achieve, innit?
Canadians should adopt "innit" and do away with "eh".
People are dead because of these fuckers.
People are dead because of these fuckers.
Gomez
Dead, maimed, homeless, jobless...
I bet they'll take all the O keys off the computers.
Wazzup, Ralphie? What happened?
Long bike ride in the sleet and snow. Flat tire. Cell phone does not work. Long walk. Anger. Complete mental breakdown. That doesn't work either. Got home. Letter from IRS. More breakdown. Call to bike repair place. "Can you bring it in Monday?" Is that enough? Goddammit.
ttp://www.imdb.com/news/ns0000002/#ni0600599
Actor Edward Norton has produced a documentary chronicling America's next President Barack Obama's path to the White House.
The Fight Club star's production company Class 5 Films has closed a deal with bosses at American network HBO, who plan to air the finished programme early in 2009.
Norton reportedly approached the Obama campaign in 2006 to document his entrance into the world of politics. Directors Alicia Sams and Amy Rice filmed extensive footage of the Obama in his role as Illinois' senator and continued to shoot the politician as he kicked off his presidential campaign in 2007.
Norton tells the Hollywood Reporter, "Senator Obama's history-making race for the White House has given our film a perfect framework to explore the pulse of the country at this vital moment in our history."
V for Virginia, DRINK REST DRI
You got your mail, right?
JP: Dizzee Rascal, do you believe in political parties in Britain?
DR: Yeah, they exist. I believe in 'em ... I don't know if it makes a difference. But you know what I mean. It is what it is. Politicians ... say what they say - you might get every now and again a genuine one, innit? But I think people, like, as a whole make the difference ...
JP: But in the end you've already told us how excited you feel about the election of a black president, clearly an individual does make a difference ...?
DR: Yeah, to help boost the morale. But change comes from everybody coming together and making a difference.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/...xman-jeremy-
bbc
...or cutting down the rose garden with his chainsaw
el
(thinking of Bush having an accident with the chainsaw.
Smiles demonically)
Here's hopin' the LSU Tigers whale the tar out of ingrate Nick Saban's Crimson Tide.
Ralphie, I got an IRS letter today too. They're very nice, if you speak to them firmly but kindly. I hope yours works out as well.
Ralphie:
We have a competent, intelligent, thoughtful, Democratic president.
When things are bad, reflect on that, and you'll feel a whole lot better.
Long bike ride in the sleet and snow. Flat tire. Cell phone does not work. Long walk. Anger. Complete mental breakdown. That doesn't work either. Got home. Letter from IRS. More breakdown. Call to bike repair place. "Can you bring it in Monday?" Is that enough? Goddammit.
Ralphie |
You rode in the sleet? Kudos to you, Ralphie. I'm impressed.
Hot bath would help.
sorry about the IRS.
But in any case, I'm sorry you had a shitty day. May it get better Real Soon Now.
Ralphie, I got an IRS letter today too.
Do they know that we know each other? In this space, of course.
and yet friedman has credibility, not just with the villagers.
phone banking tuesday i was sitting next to a recent college grad who was trying to convince me that Bill fucking Kristol makes a lot of sense. I very nearly lost it. So here's a kid phoning for Barack who listens to Kristol.
Just think of all the money we'll save from having Secret Service agents going out while the president pretends to be cutting brush. Obama is definitely not the pretending to be cutting brush kind of guy.
Do they know that we know each other? In this space, of course.
Did you pay me any money? Did I pay you any? Where were you in 2006?
Obama is definitely not the pretending to be cutting brush kind of guy.
Anthony McCarthy
Playing with his kids or reading a book, most likely.
On that note, I think I will re-read his two books.
Hot bath would help.
It's running as I type.
Bill fucking Kristol makes a lot of sense.
The one who discovered Palin?
It's kind of jaw dropping how impressionable some college kids are.
Obama is definitely not the pretending to be cutting brush kind of guy.
those agents will be much happier shooting a few hoops
Look, no one is going to be totally happy with the Obama administration.
But conservatives have to admit George W. Bush fucked up the United States of America royally.
Conservatives swore that George W. Bush would be the greatest president ever. Now what punk, are you going to flee with him to Argentina?
America survived the imbecile Carter.
We'll survive the charlatan Obama.
is it wrong to gloat? - As the implosion of the defeated Republican campaign continued yesterday, the landscape of American conservatism was dotted with signs that these were very strange times indeed.
Rush Limbaugh, behemoth of rightwing radio, took to the airwaves to declare war on two enemies: Barack Obama and the Republican party. Bloggers at FreeRepublic.com, an internet hub for conservatives, announced a boycott of Fox News and John McCain's aides fell over one another to leak embarrassing details about the campaign to the press.
Liberals, indulging in what the writer Andrew Sullivan termed "Palinfreude", were presented with a smorgasbord, ranging from the tale of how McCain's pro-Palin foreign policy adviser had his Blackberry confiscated in the closing days of the race, to how the party had paid for Todd Palin's silk boxer shorts.
The fighting consuming the McCain and Palin camps threatened to derail broader efforts to overhaul the Republican party after Tuesday's decisive defeat, for which some insiders blamed Sarah Palin. Veterans of the right gathered in the Shenandoah Valley, Virginia, on Thursday for a summit on the movement's future, but even as they did so, the blame went on.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/...ns-
rushlimbaugh
must make a nice change with the Republicans in crisis
almost like karma
Jeeze, if the IRS is going after DFHs, maybe I oughta go to the post office and pick up my mail today. Who knows what awaits?
"...there's an article in SFGate today about the Forest Service & National Parks getting sandbagged on Gas Lease and Mineral Rights auctions in Utah."
Can Obama issue an executive order reverseing that?
I'm surprised that the prop ranch hasn't already been put up for sale. I guess Bush is hoping that the real estate market will rebound under Obama.
Did you pay me any money? Did I pay you any? Where were you in 2006?
I refuse to answer any and all questions.
the imbecile Carter.
Jimmy was smarter than Reagan, Bush I and Bush II put together.
Ralphie, bad luck. Something warming from a bottle maybe.
America survived the imbecile Carter.
We'll survive the charlatan Obama.
Lubyanka
Your wife dreams of sucking Obama's cock.
Rush Limbaugh, behemoth of rightwing radio, took to the airwaves to declare war on two enemies: Barack Obama and the Republican party. Bloggers at FreeRepublic.com, an internet hub for conservatives, announced a boycott of Fox News.
I love when they turn on one another.
More of this, please.
Gomez is quite subtle.
Gomez! Hilarious. As if Luby would have a wife.
Honest to God, Sarah Palin makes George W. Bush look like a genius.
I will relish CHENEY getting back to clearing brush...
At least the money the IRS collects will be spent by a compentent adult now.
A judge investigating the human rights crimes of dictator Francisco Franco has ordered the exhumation of bodies from Spain's most controversial monument, the underground basilica and mausoleum known as the Valley of the Fallen.
In a new move in his investigation into abuses committed by Franco's regime, Baltasar Garzón has ordered the exhumation of eight corpses which lie inside the warren of niches at the mausoleum 36 miles north-west of Madrid.
The bones of some 40,000 people who died during the Spanish civil war were deposited there after Franco's favourite monument, topped by a 150-metre high granite cross, was finished in 1958.
Relatives of the eight men said their corpses had originally been thrown into a well near their home village of Pajares de Adaja, in central Spain, by members of a Francoist death squad in 1936. More than 20 years later their bones were taken to the Valley of the Fallen.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/...pain-world-
news
Lubyanka
What language does "lub" mean "dick" in?
I refuse to answer any and all questions.
Did u remember to put some Epson salts in your bath?
Lubyanka:
The Horripilation!
The Herpes!
The Irrelevancy!
I was hoping that dickyanka had hanged him on Tuesday night.
What a disappointment.
Your wife dreams of sucking Obama's cock.
Gomez
it's male then? I couldn't tell
Long bike ride in the sleet and snow. Flat tire. Cell phone does not work. Long walk. Anger. Complete mental breakdown. That doesn't work either. Got home. Letter from IRS. More breakdown. Call to bike repair place. "Can you bring it in Monday?" Is that enough? Goddammit.
Ralphie | Homepage | 11.08.08 - 3:37 pm | #
How long of a walk Ralphie? Did you push your bike while you walked or did you leave it there?
Oops - hanged HIMSELF.
steve simels regrets the error.
Honest to God, Sarah Palin makes George W. Bush look like a genius.
Le Jackel
Palin is dumber than George W. Bush and George F. Allen put together.
What language does "lub" mean "dick" in?
you're thinking of the yanka
Gomez! Hilarious. As if Luby would have a wife.
Ali, tea & toast
As if Obama would go near anyone who would fuck Luby.
Ralphie has inspired me to go for a bike ride in the rain. I've been procrastinating all day, but dammit, I'm gonna do it!
Later, bats.
Did Toby kill himself? Anyone seen a body in some gutter somewhere?
It's so sad about the Rs having nobody that can get elected president.
Perhaps they should pack it up and migrate to a country that likes their creepy ideas - Russia has taken on a glowing Reaganesque tone lately.
-
Did Toby kill himself? Anyone seen a body in some gutter somewhere?
Anthony McCarthy
He's off sulking because "god" let McCain lose.
Did u remember to put some Epson salts in your bath?
Wish I had some. Alas!!!! I spell it with an M. Dammit.
It is alleged by Steve Allen in his mystery novel, The Talk Show Murders (1982), that the song refers to "passing" — the possibility of light-skinned blacks passing for white.
Republicans shove move to Somalia
BREAKING - THEY JUST FOUND THE BLUEPRINTS FOR AUSCHWITZ IN A BERLIN APARTMENT.
Terry C Johnson is right!
"Toby Petzold | Homepage | 10.09.08 - 6:57 pm | # [X]
GravatarOut and outliers.
God won't let John McCain lose this election."
Where is your God now, Toby?
Wish I had some. Alas!!!! I spell it with an M. Dammit.
Plain coarse salt is good too.
That was an infuriating article.
There are three people who should have known better, and could have prevented instead fomented, the invasion. The first, and the guiltiest, is Colin Powell.
The second was Kenneth Pollack.
And the third was Friedman. To read him caviling and quibbling, pointing to ass-covering articles and comments trying to show that he was bitterly torn is just a pathetic lie.
It was a near thing. Another month and the momentum would have been at an end, and Blix would have carried the
day . The administration knew it too, invading with a quarter of the force bottled up by Turkey denying permission to cross its territory.
How long of a walk Ralphie? Did you push your bike while you walked or did you leave it there?
I walked it home, about 4 miles.
"Obama is definitely not the pretending to be cutting brush kind of guy."
tru nuff, but we are going to need to find for him some sort of activity that says, "america."
shooting hoops doesn't cut it as an homage to real merkins. we tried the bowling with him, but it didn't take.
?
As a liberal, I fucking respect the intellectual integrity of Ronald Reagan. I have zero repect for Sarah Palin, George W. Bush or John McCain.
Where is your God now, Toby?
Chris Tucker: GOP Delenda Est!
According to simels, Toby's piece of shit blog has been all self-pity since the election.
The funny thing is that among the people meeting to analyze the Repug meltdown are Grover Norquist and Tony Perkins. Like they're going to be honest about what went wrong.
Helen Clark, New Zealand's prime minister, has conceded defeat in the country's election after John Key, leader of the National Party, won enough seats to lead a conservative coalition.
Although National failed to win enough votes to secure an outright majority, its allies performed well enough to form a coalition.
Congratulating Key and the National Party "on the result they have achieved", Clark announced she would step down as Labour's leader.
"As is obvious to all, tonight has not been our night," she told supporters in Auckland.
Final results showed that National Party won 45 per cent of the vote, giving it 59 seats in the 122-seat parliament.
The ACT party, an ally, won five seats to ensure a National-led coalition, while the centrist United Future Party, also friendly to National, took one seat.
http://english.aljazeera.net/
new...1136964665.html
the intellectual integrity of Ronald Reagan
Please.
The guy was dumber than a box of rocks.
Ralphie has inspired me to go for a bike ride in the rain. I've been procrastinating all day, but dammit, I'm gonna do it!
Later, bats.
Ali, tea & toast | 11.08.08 - 3:47 pm | #
Me too Ali, but I am going to wait for the sleet and snow.
Dimocrats:
suddenly nowhere to run
nowhere to hide,
no more Bush--only Messiah Hussein Obama-Flator to blame.
the horror!
the humanity!
...hilarity ensueth!
Where is your God now, Toby?
Chris Tucker: GOP Delenda Est!
My guess is funding another tax financed CEO junket before they flee to Paraguay with Shrub. Mammon is the conservatives only god.
The funny thing is that among the people meeting to analyze the Repug meltdown are Grover Norquist and Tony Perkins. Like they're going to be honest about what went wrong.
Lindsay, clean fucking hippie
I love the clip on Tuesday night of Rove and Hume on Faux when Ohio went to Obama.
A sweet sight!
hoops are very well respected in the black community
I've been a solid Reagan backer ever since he came out for 100% parity. And laying down our nuclear arms.
The New Yorker can't steal from Atrios like that.
He's got lawyers out the wazoo.
Reagan had better jokes, and delivered them better, than any President in modern history.
Please, the guy read and was interested in the world, among these fucks he was a genius.
suddenly nowhere to run
nowhere to hide,
What the hell is this loser talking about?
no more Bush
At least your wife has taste.
intellectual integrity of Ronald Reagan
Yeah, the man who knew his adopted son so well that he didn't recognize him any more than he did his Housing Secretary.
The man was an animate vegetable.
Intellectual integrity?
Ronald Reagan?
Reagan had better jokes, and delivered them better, than any President in modern history.
wally
Reagan WAS a joke.
Basketball is the only purely American sport.
"The New Yorker can't steal from Atrios like that.
He's got lawyers out the wazoo."
atrios fucked up, and didn't hire (c)dave.
[offers Ralphie virtual neck and scalp massage]
Basketball is the only purely American sport.
True that.
Please, the guy read and was interested in the world, among these fucks he was a genius.
Le Jackel
He was interested in his Cold War/Evil Empire/Them Against Us/Fuck the Less Fortunate view of the world.
Atrios: The obvious difference in your analogy is that the alternative to Obama (McCain) would surely have been a disaster, whereas the alternative to starting the Iraq war was to do nothing, which would not have been nearly as much of a disaster as the Iraq war has turned out to be.
If Obama for some reason I can't imagine turns out to be a worse disaster than McCain could have been, then we'll feel like schmucks. But maybe not, since we'll all be dead.
his biggest joke was
Mister Gorbachev, tear down that wall
...as though the whole deal originated from his line.
Reagan had better jokes, and delivered them better, than any President in modern history.
He was a joke, that's for sure.
Tub is filled to my point. Later.
Basketball is the only purely Canadian (American) sport.
"The New Yorker can't steal from Atrios like that.
He's got lawyers out the wazoo."
Someone sold Lubyanka the CR to the word "when", he's figuring on collecting one of these days.
Basketball is the only purely American sport.
Not exactly...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basketball
In early December 1891, Dr. James Naismith,[1] a Canadian physical education professor from McGill University of Montréal and instructor at YMCA Training School[2] (today, Springfield College) in Springfield, Massachusetts, USA, sought a vigorous indoor game to keep his students occupied and at proper levels of fitness during the long New England winters. After rejecting other ideas as either too rough or poorly suited to walled-in gymnasiums, he wrote the basic rules and nailed a peach basket onto a 10-foot (3.05 m) elevated track. In contrast with modern basketball nets, this peach basket retained its bottom, and balls had to be retrieved manually after each "basket" or point scored; this proved inefficient, however, so a hole was drilled into the bottom of the basket, allowing the balls to be poked out with a long dowel each time. The peach baskets were used until 1906 when they were finally replaced by metal hoops with backboards. A further change was soon made, so the ball merely passed through, paving the way for the game we know today. A soccer ball was used to shoot goals. Whenever a person got the ball in the basket, his team would gain a point. Whichever team got the most points won the game.[3]
"hoops are very well respected in the black community"
yes, but he needs to reach out to middle merka, and hoops is too...tooo....ok, i'll say it, it's too black.
i'm trying to think of a more acceptable activity.
/pours adult beverage for Terry
is tm dave a patent attorney???
I never knew
"Intellectual" and "Ronald Reagan"
Do not compute.
The man had the mentality of a Hallmark card.
Sk8ing is an only muttly American sport.
-
Not exactly...
But started HERE.....
In Murka.
Reagan had better jokes, and delivered them better, than any President in modern history.
Best presidential joke was when they asked Jackie Kennedy what her husband's favorite music was and she said:
"Hail To The Chief".
So I worked like crazy woman all day to rake the yard and make it look nice for the block party and I baked homemade madelines w Myers lemons from GWPDA and now my tired INTJ self doesn't want to go to the block party.
Reagan had better jokes, and delivered them better, than any President in modern history.
"We start bombing in ten minutes..."
Absolutely hilarious.
(Fascist asshole!)
delivered them better, than any President in modern history.
Judging from the Al Smith dinner, Obama could turn out to be the funniest president ever. And I don't mean that as a put-down.
now my tired INTJ self doesn't want to go to the block party.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Put them in a little box and push them down the street on a skateboard.
(You have a skateboard, right?)
Clinton has the best comedic timing.
"Arizona State University, anticipating at
least $25 million in budget cuts this fiscal year - on top of the $30 million already cut - is ending its contracts with as many as 200 adjunct instructors. Boston University, Cornell and Brown have announced selective hiring freezes. And Tufts University, which for the last two years has, proudly, been one of the few colleges in the nation that could afford to be need-blind - that is, to admit the best-qualified applicants and meet their full financial need - may not be able to maintain that generosity for next year's incoming class."
HEY! is that Ronald Reagan over there telling a joke? ........Naw it's just a lump of Dog Shit.
i'm trying to think of a more acceptable activity.
Gold. Obama must dress up in plaid knickers, two-tone shoes, pastel polo, and silly hat and must learn to play golf to make the old white men feel more comfortable.
know what jdw, we're going to get culturally educated to ACCEPT that the man going into the white house IS black. And along with that will be hoops and other not brush cutting activities.
I expect a lot of it will seem odd, for awhile. Hopefully, we'll catch up, rather than Obama editing himself.
Still, the fuck, whose politics I despised, at least had integrity and a basis upon which to stand. Sarah Palin, George W. Bush are, and will always be profound losers, even in the conservative tribe.
Obama could turn out to be the funniest president ever. And I don't mean that as a put-down.
R. McGeddon
Genuine humor, as opposed to the mean-spirited Repuke version of humor.
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"hoops are very well respected in the black community"
yes, but he needs to reach out to middle merka, and hoops is too...tooo....ok, i'll say it, it's too black.
um, i'm a middle-aged female midwesterner. we grew up playing baseball and shooting hoops at the local parks. we didn't know from soccer, but we always had hoops. geez.
So I worked like crazy woman all day to rake the yard and make it look nice for the block party and I baked homemade madelines w Myers lemons from GWPDA and now my tired INTJ self doesn't want to go to the block party.
And then I got stonnnned, then I got stoned . . .
"Obama must dress up in plaid knickers, two-tone shoes, pastel polo, and silly hat and must learn to play golf to make the old white men feel more comfortable."
YES!
Still, the fuck, whose politics I despised, at least had integrity and a basis upon which to stand. Sarah Palin, George W. Bush are, and will always be profound losers, even in the conservative tribe.
Le Jackel
Reagan started the bullshit that Chimpy carried on.
Reagan....integrity? Yeah, right!
My niece saw a recipe for monkey bread. I remember the first year Reagan was in office and they released his Thanksgiving menu, featuring monkey bread. Someone asked Craig Clairborne what it was and he sort of dismissively said it was something you'd only serve to very young children.
sheeties
My brother tells me that Obama's poker games are legendary in DC. I'd rather have a poker player than a golfer as president any day.
We'll survive the charlatan Obama.
Lubyanka | 11.08.08 - 3:42 pm | #
Only if we survive the deserting traitor Bush, which still isn't a certainty. Carter was a saint compared to W.
...hilarity ensueth!
Lubyanka | 11.08.08 - 3:52 pm | #
Not until Jan. 20, lubby. In the meantime, the stock market has crashed, the iranians have given us the finger, and the GOP is self-destructing. In the 11 weeks remaining, there will be no resistance to the Messiah.
The Hilarity!
The New Black president!
the joy of the destruction of the GOP!
Ultimate Messiah Hussein Obama-Flator needed cue cards to call on pre-selected media questioners with pre-selected questions--America's first fully rigged presidential press conference...
softballs for a softball
you g-g-g-g-g-go, M-M-M-M-M-Messiah dude!
Tom Friedman is a fake bitch. If he cared about global warming he wouldn't be a hawk. The pentagon is the largest consumer of oil in the world
how about that nice cup of STFU, bro>
My cat turned 33 Friedmans on Election Day. My daughter will be 37 Friedmans old on Xmas Eve. I gave her a birthday card in June that said Happy 36th Friedman, then had to explain it to her. She says all her friends in college are counting things in Friedmans now.
It's time to purge Friedman, Kristol and assorted other free market fundamentalists and neo-con wackos from the pages of the New York Times
Patent that fucking F.U.
Hey, New Yorker... Plagiarism much?
war crimes: will bush premptively pardon his willing conspirators?
duh
what angered me the most about the
NYorker re Freedman's Iraq war support
was the fact that for *long* after
the invasion was proving to be a
disaster for the Iraqi people, when
the Bushies were lying like crazy,
denying that there was any civil
war going on, Freedman continued to
provide cover for them in those
claims.
Freedman claims to be a middle east
expert with some special insight
into the people and conditions there,
how could he have been in denial for
so long and supporting the bush lies?
obviously his huge ego got in the way
of perceiving the reality on the
ground. what a monsterous fake!
Wrong comparison-you're selling yourself short. Supporting an optional war and a presidential candidate are two very different things. The opposite of going to war was NOT going to war. Now we know that, not going to war would be MUCH better for the US and the world. The opposite of Obama was McCain. Even if Obama fails, one can make the argument that McCain would still be the worse choice.
Friedman supported a war. He knew exactly what he was supporting. I stopped reading the guy then and there. His judgment and intentions cannot be trusted. He championed the war on "bringing democracy to the Middle East" grounds. Given that he is supposed to be a Middle East expert, it's shocking that he had no grasp of the political culture and dynamics in the Middle East. I know the Middle east and I knew exactly how this was going to turn out (like billions of people around the world).
You, on the other hand, supported a man. You can never anticipate what he will do. Even Obama doesn't know what exactly Obama can and will do in the next 4-8 years. You support what he promises to do, what he will try to do. If you keep supporting him, even after it turns that he will not even try to deliver his promises, then you can be considered guilty. As long as you are critical and not deferential, you are not guilty.
Every president is a mixed baggage, but this war was wrong from day one, as was all the constitutional bending done to accommodate it. Friedman is guilty because he legitimized it. No amount of "criticizing the direction of the war" can save him.
Even if Obama failed, you would not be automatically guilty. Only if you support him unquestioningly (the way Bush supporters did) would I consider you responsible. That won't happen anyway. Thank God, Obama is not Bush. And you are not Friedman.
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