is arios trying to pile on a bunch of posts?
ina, meatballs & turkey |
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11.27.08 - 10:21 am | #
so that his overall average for the weekend remains the same?
ina, meatballs & turkey |
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11.27.08 - 10:21 am | #
"The way to do it is to offer a 50 percent rebate check to every purchaser of a new, American-made car produced by any auto company that signs up for a voluntary restructuring program with the federal government. The rebate would be paid by the Treasury Department, and then exchanged for preferred stock in the company that produced the car."
This is a terrible idea!!! People don't need to buy more crap. I want my universal healthcare!!!!!
Southern Beale |
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11.27.08 - 10:21 am | #
and tell me again, what time do i need to put a 9-pounder into the oven?
ina, meatballs & turkey |
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11.27.08 - 10:21 am | #
what time do i need to put a 9-pounder into the oven?
It appears our host is mainlining the espresso.
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11.27.08 - 10:23 am | #
Good morning people. Happy Thanksgiving.
Interesting night with the homeless last night. In addition to housing 9 homeless folks, our church kitchen was used to prepare thanksgiving dinner for a meals on wheels program. We were BUSY and the place smelled delicious.
Because the homeless get so many turkey dinners at this time of year our volunteer made a freaking awesome PRIME RIB last night (believe it or not, people in shelters get really sick of turkey around the holidays). OMG everyone was so excited. It was amazing. One guy said it was the best meal he'd had all year.
Southern Beale |
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11.27.08 - 10:23 am | #
snort - and who believes the other major GATT partners will not be doing the same thing asap?
rootless-e, sullen populist |
11.27.08 - 10:24 am | #
Well, perhaps he is giving us plenty to talk about while he prepares his holiday feast.
Me, I think we ought to limit the pardoning of turkeys to those in the fowl class, and not those in the foul class.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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11.27.08 - 10:25 am | #
If I had any money, I'd have bought in at last week's bottom.
blerb
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If the markets weren't based on a Freudian hysteria-hook hyper-model then how would the rich manipulate those low-buy opportunities?
Nancy Willing
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11.27.08 - 10:28 am | #
Well, our trade agreements are intended to ram whatever we want down the throats of the third world, so, if they aren't making cars, well, fuck `em.
(Still fuming about the expansion of NAFTA's Chapter 11 in the GATS talks--no wonder the third world countries backed out, holding their noses and yelling, "stinkeroonie.")
montag |
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11.27.08 - 10:28 am | #
People would just use it to buy SUVs and other gas guzzlers. There are not enough fuel efficient American cars available.
Tralfaz |
11.27.08 - 10:28 am | #
we need to give
every american
a giant free stuff check
to start
so they can stimulate
teh economy
by buying crap
at wal-mart
rootless-e, sullen populist |
11.27.08 - 10:28 am | #
After asking us to propose our own transportation subjects, I'm impressed he came up with THIS.
I'm all for ALL the bailout money going to THE PEOPLE.
el |
11.27.08 - 10:28 am | #
Yeah. I did think that when i read it. I thought the guy meant to finesse that by saying, obliquely, that foreign car makers could participate too, but wouldn't want to.
jayackroyd |
11.27.08 - 10:28 am | #
I bet last week wasn't the bottom. I'd like to be wrong, but we bought at an apparent bottom in 2001 and there was still a long way to go down...
Tralfaz |
11.27.08 - 10:29 am | #
I think Atrios is hiding in the bedroom with a mug of coffee, while pandemonium reigns in the kitchen.
Gromit |
11.27.08 - 10:30 am | #
The idea, tralfaz is that yes, all the SUVs would get bought, and car companies not be allowed to make so many anymore.
In exchange for the money.
I do think that the other auto companies would file an official protest with the commissioner.
jayackroyd |
11.27.08 - 10:30 am | #
Shouldn't it be "didn't really allow..."?
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
11.27.08 - 10:30 am | #
Well, since I believe the big three all have plants and suppliers located outside the US, the violation just might be (ahem) overlooked this one time.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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11.27.08 - 10:30 am | #
Rasmussen ^
68% Prefer “Merry Christmas” to “Happy Holidays” Thursday, November 27, 2008 Christmas is just around the corner, and a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 68% of American adults prefer stores to show signs saying “Merry Christmas” rather than "Happy Holidays." Only one-quarter of adults (25%) favor signs that say “Happy Holidays.” Those figures are virtually unchanged from our survey conducted this time last year. Men (71%) favor “Merry Christmas” slightly more than women (65%). From a politically partisan perspective, Republicans (84%) overwhelmingly prefer “Merry Christmas” more than Democrats (51%). Far more Democrats (43%) wish for “Happy Holidays”...
I prefer signs that say "Season's Greetings."
Why didn't you ask about that?
Lime Rickey |
11.27.08 - 10:30 am | #
I need an OVEN BAILOUT. The door fell off my oven with pumpkin pies inside. It is hanging from one hinge, propped by a chair, with aluminum foil stuffed in the cracks.
Fingers crossed for the pies
el |
11.27.08 - 10:30 am | #
People would just use it to buy SUVs and other gas guzzlers. There are not enough fuel efficient American cars available.
Yeah saw that SUV and pickup truck sales are up, with the lower gas prices. People are fucking idiots.
I need an OVEN BAILOUT. The door fell off my oven with pumpkin pies inside. It is hanging from one hinge, propped by a chair, with aluminum foil stuffed in the cracks.
A great family holiday story in the making! You're crying now but believe me, you'll be laughing about this for years to come.
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11.27.08 - 10:32 am | #
People would just use it to buy SUVs and other gas guzzlers. There are not enough fuel efficient American cars available.
Tralfaz
bottom line. Any bailout must result in efficient cars. Don't stick us with a fleet of same old same old...
el |
11.27.08 - 10:32 am | #
I think Atrios is hiding in the bedroom with a mug of coffee, while pandemonium reigns in the kitchen.
Gromit
me, i'm hiding in plain sight with a coffee mug at the kitchen table, while the girls make their way through pomegranate hunks and give each other multiple choice questions on what certain animals, including dinosaurs, eat...
it's a good day so far
ina, meatballs & turkey |
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11.27.08 - 10:33 am | #
A great family holiday story in the making! You're crying now but believe me, you'll be laughing about this for years to come.
Just like Sylvia Plath's family.
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
11.27.08 - 10:33 am | #
we need to give
every american
a giant free stuff check
to start
so they can stimulate
teh economy
by buying crap
at wal-mart
George? George Bush? Is that you?
Southern Beale |
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11.27.08 - 10:33 am | #
"The door fell off my oven with pumpkin pies inside."
Hey I'm a glass half full kinda girl, what can I say.
Southern Beale |
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11.27.08 - 10:33 am | #
Bad idea. It would encourage (like me) who would otherwise probably keep my car on the road another 5 - 10 years to go get a new one, which is very wasteful. The solution, evidently, is for Detroit to make cars people actually want to go out and buy.
Also, we should decide now if we're trying to jump start the econony, rescue a business, or retain an entire industry which can't succeed without going on welfare.
Culture of TrÜth |
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11.27.08 - 10:33 am | #
thanks, dave.
Butterball has a timing calculator on the right... enter the size, it will tell you how long to cook.
they're callin' us to wall street
bring dollars they command
to bailout worthy bankers
who need a helping hand
rootless-e, sullen populist |
11.27.08 - 10:34 am | #
"The band travelled 1,100 miles to be at the parade Matt."
"Wow"
[ audio goes out while band plays ]
Culture of TrÜth |
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11.27.08 - 10:34 am | #
I need an OVEN BAILOUT. The door fell off my oven with pumpkin pies inside. It is hanging from one hinge, propped by a chair, with aluminum foil stuffed in the cracks.
"The band travelled 1,100 miles to be at the parade Matt."
They were from New Jersey and got lost.
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
11.27.08 - 10:36 am | #
Just like Sylvia Plath's family.
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
you brought this up yesterday.
are you at the crossroads of poet and suicide?
should we worry (or are you in it for the cheap laughs)?
one of my favorite plath lines that comes to me regularly is: "looked for like mail." i love that.
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11.27.08 - 10:36 am | #
Bad idea. It would encourage (like me) who would otherwise probably keep my car on the road another 5 - 10 years to go get a new one, which is very wasteful. The solution, evidently, is for Detroit to make cars people actually want to go out and buy.
OK, time for me to make my mandatory Thanksgiving Day run to the grocery store.
Later, folks.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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11.27.08 - 10:39 am | #
Has anyone blamed the terrorist attacks on Barach Hussein Obama yet?
Takes time to get the news from India to the Eighteenth Century.
montag |
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11.27.08 - 10:39 am | #
Who's going to complain? Daimler? GM-Mexico? Chrysler-Canada?
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian |
11.27.08 - 10:39 am | #
If these guys got a couple of people with some camera sense to "direct" and threw up a few explanatory titles, this webcam thing would be a great way to watch the parade. No stupid "funny" commentary, no lip-synching "stars" pushing their latest "hit". Just the parade.
Puppies now THROWING each other around.
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian |
11.27.08 - 10:40 am | #
gm is run by morons
chrysler by imbeciles
and ford's drooling idjits
should be serving Happy Meals
they don't have a clue about
making
cars that people want to buy
that's why they're praying for
money that falls from the sky
rootless-e, sullen populist |
11.27.08 - 10:41 am | #
Who's going to complain? Daimler? GM-Mexico? Chrysler-Canada?
XM just played Bernstein's heartbreaking performance of the Beethoven 7th, recorded shortly before he died.
During the achingly beautiful slow movement, Lenny is desperately trying to control a coughing fit. He died of a lung tumor less than two months later.
I am grateful for wondrous musicians, past, present and future.
Gromit |
11.27.08 - 10:42 am | #
SF Gate has a pretty good collection of cooking tips, too...
i don't actually feel guilty. i'm an omnivore. i try to be as responsible with my food choices as i can, aware of my place on the planet.
apropos of that, the 8yo just asked, "mom, can 'carcass,' be used to describe a pomegranate rind?"
ina, meatballs & turkey |
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11.27.08 - 10:42 am | #
Performance at Tanglewood with BSO 8/19/90.
Gromit |
11.27.08 - 10:43 am | #
i don't actually feel guilty. i'm an omnivore. i try to be as responsible with my food choices as i can, aware of my place on the planet.
I need an OVEN BAILOUT. The door fell off my oven with pumpkin pies inside. It is hanging from one hinge, propped by a chair, with aluminum foil stuffed in the cracks.
Sounds like you have it under control for now. The pies should be okay.
Did the door fall completely off, like drop onto the floor? Or did it just list at a really bad angle? If it didn't fall off completely just play with if a little and see if you can get the door to close without having to use tinfoil for the cracks, after the pies are done of course.
I kept my oven working for 3 years with the door on only one hinge. But it wasn't easy all the time. I would sometimes forget and throw open the door and there it would go again.
El Fredo |
11.27.08 - 10:44 am | #
Shorter Juan Williams on NPR:
Obama ran as a lefty and now it's clear he's center right; liberals are stunned and conservatives are laughing.
Thumper Johnson |
11.27.08 - 10:44 am | #
Lennie had those wonderful recordings of some of the Beethoven quartets using part of the Vienna orchestra.
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
11.27.08 - 10:44 am | #
If these guys got a couple of people with some camera sense to "direct" and threw up a few explanatory titles, this webcam thing would be a great way to watch the parade. No stupid "funny" commentary, no lip-synching "stars" pushing their latest "hit". Just the parade.
i got 'click here for plugin,' should i?
ina, meatballs & turkey |
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11.27.08 - 10:44 am | #
The terrorists came by boat.
I warned Vicki about terrorist kayakers.
Gomez |
11.27.08 - 10:45 am | #
Good morning, friends.
Happy Turkey Day!
Terry C ♥'s Pres. Obama |
11.27.08 - 10:45 am | #
I got my duct tape ready.
Gomez |
11.27.08 - 10:45 am | #
It still seems wasteful.
Culture of TrÜth |
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11.27.08 - 10:46 am | #
Well, I need to decorate the Obama cheesecakes. I will photograph the process and report back later.
Karin Hussein |
11.27.08 - 10:46 am | #
It still seems wasteful.
Culture of TrÜth
Nah. Duct tape is cheap.
Gomez |
11.27.08 - 10:47 am | #
I learned everything I need to know in life by watching Red Green.
Thumper Johnson |
11.27.08 - 10:47 am | #
What about U.S. made bicycles?
Culture of TrÜth |
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11.27.08 - 10:47 am | #
Maybe this will come through, copy accompanying photo says
"in 1929 Financial Crash it was said that some Wall Street Stockbrokers and Bankers JUMPED from their office windows and committed suicide when confronted with the news of their firms and clients financial ruin . . . Many people were said to almost feel a little sorry for them . . . . . .
in 2008 the attitude has changed somewhat"
el |
11.27.08 - 10:47 am | #
Shorter Juan Williams on NPR:
Shorter Terry C to Juan Williams:
ESAD.
Terry C ♥'s Pres. Obama |
11.27.08 - 10:47 am | #
turducten?
Culture of TrÜth |
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11.27.08 - 10:48 am | #
Smurfs and the Jonas Bros. currently singing "Smells Like Teen Spirit"
Culture of TrÜth |
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11.27.08 - 10:49 am | #
Has anyone blamed the terrorist attacks on Barach Hussein Obama yet?
Gomez
I agree with what a member of this community said last night:
Get back to me when the "terrorists" threaten Bush and Cheney's families.
Terry C ♥'s Pres. Obama |
11.27.08 - 10:49 am | #
What about U.S. made bicycles?
Culture of TrÜth
i was gonna respond to you post upthread about making cars people want--why can't we make functioning bicycle cars that generate power while you pedal that can be tapped for steep terrain?
ina, meatballs & turkey |
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11.27.08 - 10:49 am | #
Karishma Vaswani is kinda hot.
Gomez |
11.27.08 - 10:49 am | #
oh well, didn't work to share pic of demonstrators in front of Wall Street with sign that said "jump, fuckers"
el |
11.27.08 - 10:50 am | #
It was all in the wrist with my one hinged oven door. When closing it I had to lift it slightly just before the door closed, then turn the wrist to the right as it closed. I got the hang of it.
El Fredo |
11.27.08 - 10:52 am | #
The Detroit Lions will be taking their case to the nation today in hopes of proving they need a bailout even more than the big 3.
BRIT FUMES |
11.27.08 - 10:52 am | #
I think Kieth Knight has it right: Let the oil companies bail ’em out.
gonna go look at a 1937 ladies bike this weekend. i'm developing an old bike fetish.
anyone got one they wanna sell?
jdw |
11.27.08 - 10:52 am | #
Dumbya, awake from your drunken stupor and find out what's going on in India.
You're still president, y'know?
Lime Rickey |
11.27.08 - 10:53 am | #
What about U.S. made bicycles?
Culture of TrÜth
FOX sux, but they have a policy that pays employees $6.00 a day for commuting by bike. My brother has an obsolete solar hybrid, generator stores enough juice to give him a rest when he wants it, and he makes $120/month.
Tough now with fires though, lots of ash in the air.
Oh, and the company that made the solar bike went out of business. It's a great bike, everyone wants it.
el |
11.27.08 - 10:53 am | #
We should just suspend payroll taxes until we have enough stimulus. It would be a bottom up approach to getting this economy back on track.
mickslam |
11.27.08 - 10:53 am | #
"What about U.S. made bicycles?"
I've had a few lovely Cannondales which were bought over here.
Marcellina |
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11.27.08 - 10:54 am | #
I am watching Sesame Street.
Not sure why.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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11.27.08 - 10:54 am | #
To hell with the WTO, world fascism in action.
Anthony McCarthy |
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11.27.08 - 10:54 am | #
It would encourage (like me) who would otherwise probably keep my car on the road another 5 - 10 years to go get a new one, which is very wasteful.
I've read that something like 10 percent of autos generate 60 percent of emissions. Cap and trade is supposed to get those off the roads. But this might do so as well.
But, yes, the idea here is that you crush your five year old car, or send it off to central europe, rather than leave the ports and lots full of cars, as far as the eye can see.
Cars are much more reliable, last much longer. The response has not been to keep one going for a long time. It has been to buy a new one after five years or so, and keep them both. The garages may now be full.
jayackroyd |
11.27.08 - 10:54 am | #
anyone got one they wanna sell?
jdw | 11.27.08 - 10:52 am |
wow. how many do you have? are they functioning or museum pieces? do you have room to store them? i have a lovely rusty piece of a bike that i retrieved from the woods years ago--it hangs on the wall as art...
ina, meatballs & turkey |
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11.27.08 - 10:55 am | #
In case you missed it, Liebermann putting his money where his mouth WAS.
When I was first married, I was asked to make the pies for Thanksgiving. First holiday with the inlaws. I wasn't very good with pies back then (that's a skill you master over time, I think).
So I baked two pecan pies. I was VERY proud, until my brother in law said that I'd made the pies with salted pecans.
Oops.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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11.27.08 - 10:56 am | #
The Detroit Lions will be taking their case to the nation today in hopes of proving they need a bailout even more than the big 3.
BRIT FUMES | 11.27.08 - 10:52 am | #
BRIT, you must of missed my Thanksgiving present earlier. The pick of the year! Take the Lions against the Titans with the 11 points. The Lions may win it outright.
El Fredo |
11.27.08 - 10:56 am | #
Shorter Juan Williams on NPR
If Rupert Murdoch's law jockey gets any shorter he's going to be invisible.
Anthony McCarthy |
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11.27.08 - 10:56 am | #
You get a car! and You get a car!...
Franklin Furter III, H.D. |
11.27.08 - 10:57 am | #
Morning, all! And a happy turkey day.
Apologies, of course, for the holiday blogwhores, but there's an interesting and alarming new clue to tomorrow's Listomania over at the homepage. For those who care.
But at Box Office, I sing the praises of a new DVD of Sam Fuller's truly amazing parable of American racism "White Dog."
Before you nod out on L-tryptophan, it probably wouldn't kill you to go over there and leave a comment.
steve simels |
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11.27.08 - 10:57 am | #
good link, rootless, his point about joyless lefties and Obama critics is well taken.
el |
11.27.08 - 10:58 am | #
"wow. how many do you have?"
right now 3, but i can see this getting out of hand.
"are they functioning or museum pieces?"
2 are functioning. i've got two ladies bikes. the wife has a 1947 jc higgins, i've got a prewar western flyer.
i'm currently restoring a 1950 western flyer.
"do you have room to store them?"
no!
"i have a lovely rusty piece of a bike that i retrieved from the woods years ago--it hangs on the wall as art..."
the nicest ones are art, of sorts.
jdw |
11.27.08 - 10:58 am | #
Good morning and Happy Thanksgiving
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
11.27.08 - 10:59 am | #
BRIT, you must of missed my Thanksgiving present earlier. The pick of the year! Take the Lions against the Titans with the 11 points. The Lions may win it outright.
El Fredo | 11.27.08 - 10:56 am | #
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I hope not, I don't want to see them ruin their "perfect" season.
BRIT FUMES |
11.27.08 - 11:00 am | #
Macy's Parade is being Rick-rollllllllled!!!!!!!!!!
Culture of TrÜth |
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11.27.08 - 11:01 am | #
the nicest ones are art, of sorts.
jdw
are you a biker?
i have a tandem that i'm trying to connect to a tag-along so that the whole family can ride together. i've found, since having children, though, that the mister-fix-it part of my brain is less available...
ina, meatballs & turkey |
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11.27.08 - 11:02 am | #
Happy Thanksgiving to you, Sallyh!
And to everyone here!
Especially you, toesucker.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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11.27.08 - 11:02 am | #
They even dug up Rick Astley.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants |
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11.27.08 - 11:02 am | #
Rick Astley is in the motherfuckin' house!!!!
Culture of TrÜth |
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11.27.08 - 11:02 am | #
Vicki, pie baking is definitely a skill that takes a lot of practice. Even after cooking for over 40 years, they're still not my best work.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
11.27.08 - 11:02 am | #
Rick Astley is in the motherfuckin' house!!!!
Culture of TrÜth | Homepage | 11.27.08 - 11:02 am | #
The great Nick Lowe song All Men Are Liars
"Do you remember Rick Astley?
He had a big fat hit. It was ghastly"
steve simels |
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11.27.08 - 11:04 am | #
I am LOVING the fact that the Macy's Parade just got RickRolled LIVE. By Rick Astley. On national TV. LOL.
Sharoney |
11.27.08 - 11:04 am | #
Happy Thanksgiving all. Just a drive by to give everyone my best wishes.
Thanks to Duncan for providing this forum.
Thanks to all the old timers who have welcomed me here.
Thanks to everyone who helped me keep my sanity during the long national insanity.
And finally(and this is a one time offer) thanks to all the trolls who remind me that a 100IQ is the median.
Gotta go and cook turkey and drink beer. Catch you all later for turkey leftover recipes.
dmark |
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11.27.08 - 11:05 am | #
if you wanna call very leasurely 4-5 mile rides in summer evenings with the wife a biker...
jdw
i call that a biker and a romantic
ina, meatballs & turkey |
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11.27.08 - 11:05 am | #
I am LOVING the fact that the Macy's Parade just got RickRolled LIVE. By Rick Astley. On national TV. LOL.
I had to rewind the TiVo just to see that, yes, it was a live RickRolling. Kudos to Sesame Street.
pseudonymous in nc |
11.27.08 - 11:05 am | #
The idea, tralfaz is that yes, all the SUVs would get bought, and car companies not be allowed to make so many anymore.
In exchange for the money.
...
jayackroyd
Well, I guess the ones sitting on the lots need to be bought by someone. So we're stuck with those on the road for the next decade.
Tralfaz |
11.27.08 - 11:05 am | #
if you wanna call very leasurely 4-5 mile rides in summer evenings with the wife a biker.
If you have tatoos all over, wear leather, no helmet and she rides the sidecar, then yes, you are a biker.
El Fredo |
11.27.08 - 11:06 am | #
"If you have tatoos all over, wear leather, no helmet and she rides the sidecar, then yes, you are a biker."
i can see the tatoo: born to pedal 7 miles an hour.
jdw |
11.27.08 - 11:07 am | #
Well, I guess the ones sitting on the lots need to be bought by someone. So we're stuck with those on the road for the next decade.
Tralfaz | 11.27.08 - 11:05 am | #
They should go to "car share" type companies.
rootless-e, sullen populist |
11.27.08 - 11:07 am | #
He had a big fat hit. It was ghastly"
steve simels |
Actually two. It was just the same song in a different key - or at least it sounded that way.
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It's just me again! |
11.27.08 - 11:07 am | #
bah. got some work to do...little later bats.
jdw |
11.27.08 - 11:08 am | #
Time to bake zucchini bread! I'll be back between dishes
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
11.27.08 - 11:08 am | #
Not yet, but now that you mention it...I have a nice cup of coffee next to me and I'm waiting for my lettuce to dry, and I do have some (cough)"oregano"(cough) here at my disposal.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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11.27.08 - 11:08 am | #
Bobbleheads of Lincoln, Twain, and Simels now in the parade
Culture of TrÜth |
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11.27.08 - 11:08 am | #
What's a "Rickrolling". Does it mean we can we have a War on Thanksgiving now?
Anthony McCarthy |
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11.27.08 - 11:09 am | #
if you wanna call very leasurely 4-5 mile rides in summer evenings with the wife a biker...
jdw
I've never thought of the racer types with the tight bike pants, head down and straight, pumping the pedals at a continuous rate going somewhere fast, on a titanium, very expensive bicycle, as biking. It's exercise, and not being critical of it, but it's not biking.
Biking is meandering along on the beach, people and pelican watching, or leisurely rides on a summer evening with a loved one, as you say.
Happy Thanksgiving.
Franklin Furter III, H.D. |
11.27.08 - 11:10 am | #
Getting Astley on national TV qualifies as one 'miracle' toward sainthood for his agent !
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It's just me again! |
11.27.08 - 11:10 am | #
Sallyh,
Surprisingly, I have mastered the pie.
The problem is, I don't have anyone to bake for any more. Audrey doesn't like pie, and I can't eat a whole pie on my own.
I LOVE cherry pie.
My mom always makes the pies on Thanksgiving; that's her thing. She's a great baker.
I used to do breads and stuff, but this year, I'm doing a pear/dried cherry/bleu cheese salad. It's v. good.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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11.27.08 - 11:11 am | #
From wiki.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants |
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11.27.08 - 11:11 am | #
I'm not watching the parade, but I'm wondering --
Is there a float of Stewie Griffin from Family Guy? Like in the Coke commercial?
steve simels |
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11.27.08 - 11:12 am | #
david broder, starts out with the outrageous (clinton had no achievements-save a general peace and extreme economic prosperity; please add your own) and concludes with what should be obvious; Broder himself has no clue about what is going on.
By contrast, Jimmy Carter was a whiz at policy analysis and Bill Clinton grasped the connections among issues almost intuitively. Yet neither of them left the White House with a record of great achievements.
So for several years, I have been arguing that there are traits much more important to the success of a president than brainpower. Self-confidence, curiosity, an eye for talent, the ability to communicate, a temperament that invites collaboration -- all these and more rank higher on the list of desirable presidential traits.
I am not ready to abandon that view. But I am struck by how lucky this country is, at the moment, that the president-elect is a super-smart person like Barack Obama.
With each passing day, it becomes more evident that even the smartest and most experienced managers of the American economy are struggling to understand -- and fix -- what has gone wrong in our markets.
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I attempt to follow the discussion in newspapers and on Jim Lehrer's "NewsHour" and other deeply serious television programs about the latest moves by the Federal Reserve Board and the Treasury -- and I am stumped.
The sums are so staggering, the vocabulary so unfamiliar, the experience so uninformative that I have not a clue whether Bernanke, Paulson and Co. are on top of the situation or are inadvertently making things worse.
That's an embarrassing admission. I get paid to cover the government, and this is by far the most important challenge facing Washington. But I am utterly dependent on others to decipher the clues that may unravel these mysteries.
peterboy |
11.27.08 - 11:12 am | #
The Pilgrims' Financial Crisis (How the Pilgrims learned the timeless principles of Capitalism)
The American Spectator ^ | Nov 27,2008 | Peter Ferrara
The Pilgrims who landed at Plymouth Rock in 1620 were an idealistic lot. They were part of the broader Puritan movement believing that the Anglican Church, recognized in law as the official church of England, had strayed from true Christianity.
But as the colony grew, this initial quasi-socialist community of share and share alike was not working to produce enough for essential basic needs, let alone the prosperity that was expected in the new world. Available wild supplies of food, in particular, were no longer enough.
Must we read this same wingnut fantasy story every fucking Thanksgiving?
Lime Rickey |
11.27.08 - 11:13 am | #
Um... this senior citizen band is a little disturbing...
Culture of TrÜth |
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11.27.08 - 11:14 am | #
Thank you, HoneyBearKelly.
Anthony McCarthy |
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11.27.08 - 11:15 am | #
Must we read this same wingnut fantasy story every fucking Thanksgiving?
Lime Rickey
Probably. Ye olde pilgrim fathers were a pretty awful bunch, just about all the propaganda about them is a load of bullshit.
Anthony McCarthy |
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11.27.08 - 11:16 am | #
What are the puppies doing for Thanksgiving?
El Fredo |
11.27.08 - 11:17 am | #
By contrast, Jimmy Carter was a whiz at policy analysis and Bill Clinton grasped the connections among issues almost intuitively. Yet neither of them left the White House with a record of great achievements.
There was just that little peace agreement between Egypyt and Israel Carter managed. Broder, hang it up already.
Neponset |
11.27.08 - 11:18 am | #
just about all the propaganda about them is a load of bullshit.
Anthony McCarthy |
Like most (all?) US history we learned in school!
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It's just me again! |
11.27.08 - 11:19 am | #
But as the colony grew, this initial quasi-socialist community of share and share alike was not working to produce enough for essential basic needs, let alone the prosperity that was expected in the new world. Available wild supplies of food, in particular, were no longer enough.
So, they began systematically killing Indians to move them from land they coveted.
There was just that little peace agreement between Egypyt and Israel Carter managed. Broder, hang it up already.
Neponset |
I'll bet Jimmie Carter's speech labeling the achieving of energy independence as the 'moral equivalent of war' stands up pretty well today.
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11.27.08 - 11:22 am | #
So, they began systematically killing Indians to move them from land they coveted.
The end.
megisi |
And the Indians responded by trying to invoke the 'Bush Doctrine' of pre-emptive war to try and save their way of life.
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It's just me again! |
11.27.08 - 11:24 am | #
vicki,
pie is always good. if you cant eat all the cherry pie at once, why not freeze half?
i cant get enough cherry pie, witness the file cabinet pie.
and
happy thanksgiving to all, and graces to all and blessings to all and good health and may the path meet your expectations and the earth supply your needs.
ms. p is preparing to remind me to clean the bathrooms--guests, you know.
coffee and news now.
and also wondering why the local paper--very local paper--has an article on wine pairings for the bird.
Like folks who read the Daily Breeze wanna know about wine pairings. though I must say, my daughter sniffed at the $6 ZIN I bought. though after she drank the other bottle of red with us, she had some of the Zin.
I can tell a good wine, but I dont really get bothered by one less dear.
peterboy |
11.27.08 - 11:24 am | #
Puppies now dedicated to destroying their big bed.
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian |
11.27.08 - 11:29 am | #
A car in every pot!
War On War Off |
11.27.08 - 11:30 am | #
And the Indians responded by trying to invoke the 'Bush Doctrine' of pre-emptive war to try and save their way of life.
Tribe: What shall we do, sachem?
Metacomet: Let's whack a few of those honky bastards and see what happens. Oh, and make sure we get a few of those apples in their praying towns while we're at it.
megisi |
11.27.08 - 11:31 am | #
Time to bake zucchini bread! I'll be back between dishes
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For the first time I made two apple strudels yesterday evening, with store bought thin crust. The instructions said: first carefully unfold the crust, or whatever it is called, on a wet cloth. Then be careful again.
Damn but I had a hard time of it. The crust was folded and as I unfolded it, it ripped at the seams. Well anyway, I stuck with it, brushed the torn places with a wet brush and tried to put it together again.
The end of the story is that almost one of the strudels is gone. Tasted pretty good. I will do it better next time. I used apples, raisins and walnuts for the filling.
El Fredo |
11.27.08 - 11:33 am | #
Trade agreements are pre-9/11, and therefore quaint...
Roddy McCorley |
11.27.08 - 11:33 am | #
Cornbread's in the oven. Onions and celery and chile are sweating on the stove. White bread is torn up and seasoned. Bird's got another hour or two of brining.
And a shout out to the A-Man for his blog. I'm thankful for Eschaton and all the Atriots I've met here.
I will second that. The A man has done a super job since the very first day. I am also thankful on this Thanksgiving Day that ronjazz is not here.
El Fredo |
11.27.08 - 11:39 am | #
Why is Sarah Palin on my tv on THANKSGIVING?
Shoot that turkey, now. I'm not thankful for her entrance onto the world stage.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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11.27.08 - 11:41 am | #
"things will always be great"-the day we signed those stupid bitch agreements
jr |
11.27.08 - 11:42 am | #
Shoot that turkey, now. I'm not thankful for her entrance onto the world stage.
Vicki,
I'm thankful that she'll probably keep the mouth-breather riled up and at the forefront of the Republican party for the next four years
BlueinColorado |
11.27.08 - 11:43 am | #
"Turkee
I guess it's time to retire this tradition."
I think it is a valid tradition until the Shrub passes away. In fact, it could be a Hallmark card that people can send to the Shrub every year to show they care.
EkCenTriK |
11.27.08 - 11:43 am | #
Time to toast the pecans.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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11.27.08 - 11:44 am | #
I'm not thankful for her entrance onto the world stage.
Vicki,
Two words, Romney, Huckabee.
I am hoping there will be blood all over the floor at the next Republican convention.
Anthony McCarthy |
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11.27.08 - 11:46 am | #
"By contrast, Jimmy Carter was a whiz at policy analysis and Bill Clinton grasped the connections among issues almost intuitively. Yet neither of them left the White House with a record of great achievements."
There are none so blind as he who will not see.
Or GOP media whores.
Terry C ♥'s Pres. Obama |
11.27.08 - 11:47 am | #
Wingnuts are (supposedly) pissing themselves in delight because they (pretend to) believe that Sarah Palin's turkey-slaying photo op has finally taught the elite libruls where our food "comes from." If this is such a much needed wake-up call, why don't Burger King and McDonald's feature slaughterhouse scenes in their hamburger commercials? I think everyone knows the answer to that one.
So save the bullshit, wingnuts. Sarah is a certified dingbat, and all your fucking phony rationalizations won't change that fact.
Lime Rickey |
11.27.08 - 11:48 am | #
Chimpy has a new winter sweater
Is it in Perpwalk pink?
Anthony McCarthy |
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11.27.08 - 11:48 am | #
Two words, Romney, Huckabee.
I am hoping there will be blood all over the floor at the next Republican convention.
Anthony McCarthy
I want in on the popcorn concession.
Terry C ♥'s Pres. Obama |
11.27.08 - 11:48 am | #
Actually, if you tied it to a program building hybrids and/or electric cars only, it's not that bad an idea.
dave?
I was paging through some issues of Time Magazine from 1960 a few weeks ago, and found ads for the Renault Dauphine and Fiat 500. They were claiming 43 and 50 MPG respectively.
Granted, both of those are candidates for "worst cars ever" lists, but provokes some doubt that we really need hybrids to acheive the fuel efficiency of rudimentary gasoline vehicles designed a half-century ago.
Over the last couple days, a friend and I began seriously researching a project to retrofit a 25-year old fuel-injected four-cylinder with a carburetor. The number of expensive components we get to eliminate from soon certain troubleshooting makes it look worthwhile.
Telegram Sam |
11.27.08 - 11:49 am | #
Chimpy has a new winter sweater
He's still a mass murderer.
(I wonder he's on one of those 900 porn lines)
Terry C ♥'s Pres. Obama |
11.27.08 - 11:49 am | #
Wingnuts are (supposedly) pissing themselves in delight because they (pretend to) believe that Sarah Palin's turkey-slaying photo op has finally taught the elite libruls where our food "comes from."
As if THEY were capable of teaching US anything.
Terry C ♥'s Pres. Obama |
11.27.08 - 11:50 am | #
Palin's killing cone backdrop only taught the world how inured she is to the slaughter of animals, something she learned at her father's knee. I feel like running over that bastard with a snowmobile every time I think of him.
Anthony McCarthy |
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11.27.08 - 11:51 am | #
I want in on the popcorn concession.
Terry C ♥'s Pres. Obama
I'll buy the bucket.
Anthony McCarthy |
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11.27.08 - 11:52 am | #
Damned if I don't make the best cornbread ever - and that without paying any attention to the receipt, only the method.
Next - fresh cornbread with sweet butter and home made apricot jam.
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian |
11.27.08 - 11:53 am | #
Shared Humanity
Cool pics!
Ok, I'm off until Monday!
Happy T-day!
Culture of TrÜth |
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11.27.08 - 11:54 am | #
I'm just waiting for my rolls to rise.
Sounds like a blues song, doesn't it.
Damned cold in my brother's kitchen, I hate cooking in someone else's kitchen.
Anthony McCarthy |
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11.27.08 - 11:55 am | #
Does Bush have a Howard Hughes thing going on? He doesn't shake hands anymore. When he did with Obama in the Whitehouse, he quickly got a squirt of that hand sanitizer crap
bill |
11.27.08 - 11:56 am | #
Palin's killing cone backdrop only taught the world how inured she is to the slaughter of animals, something she learned at her father's knee. I feel like running over that bastard with a snowmobile every time I think of him.
Anthony McCarthy | Homepage | 11.27.08 - 11:51 am | #
You may be right Anthony. But I think this is more than that. Just like Bush said when asked if he talked to his father, Bush said that he speaks to a higher father.
I think Sarah does the same. So please, cut her earthly father some slack.
bty, I think the devil is the father both of them speak of.
El Fredo |
11.27.08 - 11:56 am | #
bill, imagine w riding the NYC subways and having to hold on to the strap or handrail. Who knows who touched it previously. And yet NYers survive.
qlª - more lefty than you |
11.27.08 - 11:57 am | #
When he did with Obama in the Whitehouse, he quickly got a squirt of that hand sanitizer crap
bill
He had the butler break the glass he drank out of too, I'll bet.
Considering how kissy he's been with all kinds of people who seem diseased (McCain, for example), I suspect it's probably letting his inner Klansman show.
Anthony McCarthy |
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11.27.08 - 11:58 am | #
bill, imagine w riding the NYC subways and having to hold on to the strap or handrail. Who knows who touched it previously. And yet NYers survive.
When you go to restaurant, how many other people have put that fork into their mouths?
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
11.27.08 - 11:59 am | #
El Fredo, I draw the line well before shooting mother wolves and running them over with a snow mobile. People who do that can roast in hell after a painful and lingering death.
Anthony McCarthy |
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11.27.08 - 12:00 pm | #
leibniz: When you go to restaurant, how many other people have put that fork into their mouths?
I always bring my own.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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11.27.08 - 12:00 pm | #
why does the Secret Service collect his poop when he travels overseas?
peterboy |
11.27.08 - 12:00 pm | #
When you go to restaurant, how many other people have put that fork into their mouths?
I bring my own spork.
AndyMN |
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11.27.08 - 12:01 pm | #
I always bring my own.
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Jeffraham Prestonian
You're beginning to sound like that Nicholson character in As Good As it Gets.
qlª - more lefty than you |
11.27.08 - 12:02 pm | #
It's not just overseas. I presume that is the reason for his note Condi at the UN if it ok to use the bathroom..
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
11.27.08 - 12:02 pm | #
Damned cold in my brother's kitchen, I hate cooking in someone else's kitchen.
Anthony McCarthy | Homepage | 11.27.08 - 11:55 am | #
Anthony, it's Thanksgiving for goodness sake. You are new here, I havn't seen your nym before, but please give us somewhat believable stuff.
A kitchen on Thanksgiving Day that is cold? Please tell us, how can that be? Are the windows open?
El Fredo |
11.27.08 - 12:03 pm | #
Isn't it pleasant to realise that after 8 years of having to endure the idiocies of Shrub, we do not have to do so -any more-?
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian |
11.27.08 - 12:03 pm | #
Nicholson character in As Good As it Gets.
The ultimate middle-aged male fantasy movie. You can be a total asshole and still get the girl and the boy, both half your age and a lot better looking than you ever were.
Anthony McCarthy |
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11.27.08 - 12:04 pm | #
"we do not have to do so -any more-?"
Yes. But not soon enough.
EkCenTriK |
11.27.08 - 12:05 pm | #
"we do not have to do so -any more-?"
Yes. But not soon enough.
EkCenTriK |
11.27.08 - 12:05 pm | #
Auntie G-People will be exchanging notes on his perfidy for decades.
qlª - more lefty than you |
11.27.08 - 12:05 pm | #
Do you think we can get a competent replacement for Haloscan too when Bush leaves office?
EkCenTriK |
11.27.08 - 12:05 pm | #
Isn't it pleasant to realise that after 8 years of having to endure the idiocies of Shrub, we do not have to do so -any more-?
Yes. Personally, though, I do my realising with a Zed.
AndyMN |
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11.27.08 - 12:06 pm | #
Anthony, I love that movie. A bunch of misfits who join together to make their own kewl klub.
qlª - more lefty than you |
11.27.08 - 12:07 pm | #
Fredo, I've been posting here for ages, though I come and go depending on how much time I've got to kill.
They went to stay with my sister-in-law's family, I'm borrowing his kitchen for the day. Geesh. You want to know what color my underwear is?
Anthony McCarthy |
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11.27.08 - 12:07 pm | #
melt down #10,894 coming in
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qlª - more lefty than you |
11.27.08 - 12:08 pm | #
Happy Thanksgiving all you beautiful, witty, intelligent moonbats!
ErinPDX |
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11.27.08 - 12:08 pm | #
qlª: You're beginning to sound like that Nicholson character in As Good As it Gets.
Oddly enough, I've always had a thang for Helen Hunt.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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11.27.08 - 12:08 pm | #
qlª - more lefty than you
All I saw was a young woman falling for the wrong guy, and the gay kid did too. I couldn't believe it.
Anthony McCarthy |
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11.27.08 - 12:09 pm | #
Geesh. You want to know what color my underwear is?
Anthony McCarthy
It's just mimi, best to ignore.
qlª - more lefty than you |
11.27.08 - 12:09 pm | #
What do trolls eat for Thanksgiving?
Buzz Bomb |
11.27.08 - 12:09 pm | #
This will be our last adventure with Oona. She'll be going back to the kennel on Saturday. We'll try to give her a good time today. In a town called Pillager*.
*named after a tribe
AndyMN |
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11.27.08 - 12:10 pm | #
Tina's comment on the Washington Monthly article suggesting we instead subsidize the scrapping of SUVs is one I've contemplated myself.
Much as I'd like to see them melted down that the metal could be put to better use, when I consider that there were tax breaks for buying them in the first place, the idea seems like rewarding stupidity twice.
Telegram Sam |
11.27.08 - 12:10 pm | #
Anthony, you sound so much like someone I know here.
But you did not answer me. Why is the kitchen, where food is cooking, oven is on, burners are burning, cold?
El Fredo |
11.27.08 - 12:10 pm | #
Erin
qlª - more lefty than you |
11.27.08 - 12:10 pm | #
Andy, why are you returning Oona?
qlª - more lefty than you |
11.27.08 - 12:11 pm | #
Anyone who does not recognize Anthony's name is not really a liberal blog reader.
Marcellina |
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11.27.08 - 12:13 pm | #
What do trolls eat for Thanksgiving?
Buzz Bomb
Shit in, shit out.
Anthony McCarthy |
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11.27.08 - 12:13 pm | #
qlª,
She needs more attention than we can give her. She's really needy, but our schedules haven't worked out like we hoped. She's a doll, and we'll miss her dearly, but someone else can give her a better home.
Plus she gave me heart trouble.
AndyMN |
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11.27.08 - 12:15 pm | #
Troll feasts: everything covered in Chee-tos, washed down with copious quantities of Red Bull.
Markansas |
11.27.08 - 12:18 pm | #
Here's a dumb question:
How do you get quotes in italics?
Even when I copy text to Word, italicise, and paste to Haloscan, it won't be in italics.
canajun |
11.27.08 - 12:18 pm | #
Andy, you got me with heart trouble. Much as I love animals, peeps come first.
qlª - more lefty than you |
11.27.08 - 12:19 pm | #
Greetings again, good folks and a special howdy to Andy. That's a heartbreaking decision you had to make, but I think it a wise one.
My trip to the grocery store was quite pleasant. There were fewer idiots like me than usual on T-Day morning, which I take to be a good sign.
What is not such a good sign is the way the Labor Dept is calculating unemployment. Ruth has some perceptive thoughts on the issue.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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11.27.08 - 12:19 pm | #
Canajun - you have to use a little HTML - before the quote, use a . At the end of the quote, use a .
Markansas |
11.27.08 - 12:19 pm | #
Just bought a DVD of a 1955 movie I have been looking for, for months.
"Prince of Players" - Richard Burton as Edwin Booth, John Derek as John Wilkes Booth and Raymond Massey as their father, the Shakespearean actor Junius Brutus Booth.
Charles Bickford is in it, too.
I haven't seen it in years. Got a good deal on it on ioffer.com so I treated myself.
Terry C ♥'s Pres. Obama |
11.27.08 - 12:20 pm | #
I don't think Marcellina knows it Thanksgiving.
I don't Buttles knows his ass from his elbow.
Terry C ♥'s Pres. Obama |
11.27.08 - 12:21 pm | #
I don't mind the idea of a bridge loan to get the plug-in hybrids in production. It makes a lot more sense then the bank giveaways.
Lumpenprolitariot |
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11.27.08 - 12:21 pm | #
Canajun - sorry, Haloscan didn't post my reply correctly - it interpreted my instructions as HTML. At the beginning of the quote, hold down the shift and press the comma. Type an I, then shift/period. At the end of the quote, shift/comma, slash, I, then shift/period. Let's see if Haloscan posts this correctly.
Markansas |
11.27.08 - 12:21 pm | #
Shit in, shit out.
Anthony McCarthy | Homepage | 11.27.08 - 12:13 pm | #
My oh my, it's ronjazz. Well, not really it's his puppet master. Now who could this be? When Anthony started on the the thread he sounded just like Brooklyn Girl, then it progressed to where he sounded just like ronjazz.
On Thanksgiving Day too. The puppet master can not stop, not for a minute.
El Fredo |
11.27.08 - 12:22 pm | #
This recipe should give even bacon-lovers pause.
SteveNS |
11.27.08 - 12:22 pm | #
Much as I love animals, peeps come first.
Alas, they do. I'm a little young for the heart crap.
Turbaconducken - I felt my arteries start to clog up just looking at it.
Markansas |
11.27.08 - 12:25 pm | #
Lime Rickey:
I am SO sick of that "War on Christmas" shit.
Terry C ♥'s Pres. Obama |
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11.27.08 - 12:26 pm | #
ql, do you make some type of pasta for the first dish? ex italian bf's mom used to make tortellini (and i healped)
ErinPDX |
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11.27.08 - 12:26 pm | #
So italics work like this?
Thanks
There's gotta be an easier way.
canajun |
11.27.08 - 12:27 pm | #
So now I am preparing to get serious about cooking this abbreviated T-day dinner.
I am going to proceed the way I learned from watching years and years of Julia Childs. First, a glass of wine.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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11.27.08 - 12:28 pm | #
El Fredo might be Toby come back to try to revenge himself for the three weeks before the election. I just couldn't help myself, had to kick him around to deal with the pressure.
If I'm wrong, I don't really care what a troll thinks about me. Not unless there's fun to be had in responding.
Anthony McCarthy |
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11.27.08 - 12:28 pm | #
As long as I am asking dumb questions, is there an HTML editor that peoples use?
canajun |
11.27.08 - 12:29 pm | #
Dumbya, awake from your drunken stupor and find out what's going on in India.
He can't use it as a political advantage. So he doesn't give a fuck.
Terry C ♥'s Pres. Obama |
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11.27.08 - 12:29 pm | #
There is no easier way than <i></i>.
JeffCO |
11.27.08 - 12:30 pm | #
Terry C. you asked me a couple of days ago to leave you be. I did. Now you addressed me.
I am not your guys' imaginary foe Butler.
Again, I was wrong about you. I think you are a nice lady who happened to get with the wrong guy.
El Fredo |
11.27.08 - 12:31 pm | #
Not in this haloscam anyway.
JeffCO |
11.27.08 - 12:31 pm | #
There is no easier way than .
Awkward at first but it gets much easier with practice.
Marcellina |
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11.27.08 - 12:31 pm | #
I can see W being upset that brown people blowing each other up cuts him out of the loop.
JeffCO |
11.27.08 - 12:32 pm | #
Just checked in and saw Preznit Giv Me Turkee again, smiled REAL big, marveled that that was five years ago... and wanted to wish all past and present Atriots a happy Thanksgiving! And thanks, Atrios, for helping preserve what's left of my sanity for these past I-lost-count years.
LOVE that gravatar!
Terry C ♥'s Pres. Obama |
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11.27.08 - 12:35 pm | #
Canajun - dumb questions are the ones you DON'T ask. There are a lot of HTML editors out there. Don't know if any of them work with Haloscan - I think it's just a straight text-based job. The same technique (shift/comma, etc.) works for Bold and underline.
Markansas |
11.27.08 - 12:35 pm | #
I can see W being upset that brown people blowing each other up cuts him out of the loop.
JeffCO
Well, I don't pretend to know what is behind the current violence in Mumbai.
I do think, however, that the conflict really raises some scary potentials with respect to India and Pakistan, both of whom have nuclear weapons and have a longstanding animosity.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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11.27.08 - 12:35 pm | #
Hey, Silleigh, how're you doing?
mer |
11.27.08 - 12:35 pm | #
Haloscan DOES know enough to set up a link when you put in a URL.
Markansas |
11.27.08 - 12:36 pm | #
I'm debating whether to turn on the DVD player and do a Xmas triple feature: "Mr, Magoo's Christmas Carol" followed by the original "Miracle on 34th Street" followed by "The Miracle of the Bells" with Fred MacMurray.
Terry C ♥'s Pres. Obama |
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11.27.08 - 12:39 pm | #
Later, peeps. Carving the bird with friends, so it's time to collect the fam and go chow down.
Markansas |
11.27.08 - 12:39 pm | #
I am also thankful on this Thanksgiving Day that ronjazz is not here.
El Fredo | 11.27.08 - 11:39 am | #
And a hearty Fuck You, asshole. You can't miss a chance to be a complete prick, can you?
I hope you choke on a bone, fuckwad. That's what I would give thanks for.
ronjazz |
11.27.08 - 12:40 pm | #
Lookit my mad italics skillz!
canajun:
LOVE that gravatar!
Why thank you.
Does anyone use the JS-Kit tool that is on the main Haloscan website?
canajun |
11.27.08 - 12:40 pm | #
I hope you choke on a bone, fuckwad.
Isn't that what just happened to Ann Coulter?
Buzz Bomb |
11.27.08 - 12:41 pm | #
Man, that's gotta be rough, being a longtime Lions fan.
I have a love/hate relationship with them this year. On one hand, they're in the same division as my Vikings. On the other hand, they signed Daunte Culpepper.
But wasn't Barry Sanders something?
AndyMN |
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11.27.08 - 12:41 pm | #
Trollie will be here all day b/c Thanksgiving is a time for family, and we and his socks are all he's got. Also, b/c he's here every day b/c this is all he does.
JeffCO |
11.27.08 - 12:41 pm | #
canajun | 11.27.08 - 12:40 pm | #
Like a kid with a new toy.
Shared Humanity |
11.27.08 - 12:41 pm | #
Turkey's in teh oven.
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Right back atcha, and to all good Atriots.
ronjazz |
11.27.08 - 12:43 pm | #
Auntie J,
Does Arthur get one of teh drummies this year?
AndyMN |
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11.27.08 - 12:43 pm | #
Where did people go when Scrabulous bit the dust?
I went into my favorite corner, curled up into a ball and wept.
JeffCO |
11.27.08 - 12:43 pm | #
Trollie will be here all day b/c Thanksgiving is a time for family, and
we and his socks are all he's got. Also, b/c he's here every day b/c
this is all he does.
He is a strange and sad individual and he ALMOST has my pity.
Terry C ♥'s Pres. Obama |
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11.27.08 - 12:43 pm | #
I'm waiting for pumpkin bread to cool. Then it's off to have turkee.
Buzz Bomb |
11.27.08 - 12:44 pm | #
gonna go help out...
love and blessings to all patriots.
less than 60 days to go...
If you're fishing for a date, the answer is no.
Anthony McCarthy |
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11.27.08 - 12:44 pm | #
Andy, I have the same relationship with Detroit. I do love the characters they've provided us with over the 55 years I've watched them, including the 30 years or so they walloped my Packers every frickin' Thanksgiving.
As much as I love JP, he's my main cat man, I really do hope the Lions devour the Titans.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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11.27.08 - 12:44 pm | #
Terry C, "Mr. Magoo's Christmas Carol" is one of my all time faves.
And I have the book of "Miracle of the Bells" which someone gave me (used) years and years ago. It's charming.
Lindsay, clean fucking hippie |
11.27.08 - 12:45 pm | #
If you're fishing for a date, the answer is no.
He's not getting any dinner invitations, either.
Terry C ♥'s Pres. Obama |
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11.27.08 - 12:45 pm | #
I'm waiting for pumpkin bread to cool.
Em made some of that this year, too. She also made some four-cheese bread. That's "our" contribution to this year's meal.
AndyMN |
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11.27.08 - 12:45 pm | #
If you're fishing for a date, the answer is no.
All the trollies have major crushes on NTodd and simels. It's kind of funny when they pretend to see them everywhere they go.
JeffCO |
11.27.08 - 12:46 pm | #
Diane C.: As much as I love JP, he's my main cat man, I really do hope the Lions devour the Titans.
I'd be happy if they were at least able to make it close.
I really enjoy those nailbiter games where the Titans win with a FG kicked in the last 15 seconds.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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11.27.08 - 12:46 pm | #
Happy Thanksgiving to all you Atriots!!! Even those cheering on the Lions.
ZuZu's Petals |
11.27.08 - 12:47 pm | #
Holy kazoozis -- I just installed my first cable modem and now everything is working blindingly fast!
I don't have a rooting interest in this game. The Titans lost on Sunday so I can't even root for the spoiling of a perfect season. (Shitty of me, I know...and how much did I enjoy watching the Pats lose their perfect season in the Super Bowl last year?)
Steve, Congrts on the new speedy hookup. We look forward to faster and more frequent blogwhores.
And Happy Thanksgiving to ya.
Gromit | 11.27.08 - 12:49 pm | #
Back at ya!
steve simels |
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11.27.08 - 12:50 pm | #
GO LIE-DOWNS!
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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11.27.08 - 12:50 pm | #
Does a Snoopy Happy Dance...
ZuZu's Petals |
11.27.08 - 12:50 pm | #
While they have nothing but contempt for the ladies here. They have definite issues. Terry C
Yeah, it's odd - I'm not sure whether they're gay or just hate women so deeply that men are the only viable alternative.
JeffCO |
11.27.08 - 12:50 pm | #
If any of you would be so kind as to send me a plate of turkey and whatnot, I'll be here at my desk for the next 4 hours or so.
So following the pattern, the next phony attack should be 2/7 or 2/11.
I'll believe there are terrorists when they go directly after Bush & Cheney.
Until then, you can add the India attacks to false-flag theatrics directed by the CIA & associates.
C.I.A.=I.S.I.=C.I.A. |
11.27.08 - 12:50 pm | #
Congrats! And sure, like you haven't been here all along posting under your many sockpuppet names....
JeffCO | 11.27.08 - 12:49 pm | #
My sexism and lack of introspection gives me away.
steve simels |
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11.27.08 - 12:50 pm | #
ZuZu's Petals: TOUCHDOWN!!
*sigh*
This is going to be a stinker of a game.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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11.27.08 - 12:50 pm | #
When did the Lions switch to these no-logo helmets?
[sotto voce]
We have secretly replaced the Lions with the New York Jets. Let's see if anyone notices.
Gromit |
11.27.08 - 12:50 pm | #
Holy kazoozis -- I just installed my first cable modem and now everything is working blindingly fast!
I remember the days when Simels was barking about his dial-up. This is, indeed, a momentous day
If it makes HIM happy, then I'M happy!
Terry C ♥'s Pres. Obama |
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11.27.08 - 12:51 pm | #
And a hearty Fuck You, asshole. You can't miss a chance to be a complete prick, can you?
I hope you choke on a bone, fuckwad. That's what I would give thanks for.
ronjazz | 11.27.08 - 12:40 pm | #
Bravo ronjazz! What a great statement. You made a lot of them in the early morning thread didn't you. What a merry time you and your sock puppet troll had. I think you were a bit tipsy.
Here's what an Atroit posted about your early morning exibition.
yes but what of the epic struggle for the conquest of 'middle asshole' between ronjazz and whatever troll/trolls he's enabling or pretending to be this thread?
One Troll to Rule Them All | 11.27.08 - 3:40 am | #
El Fredo |
11.27.08 - 12:51 pm | #
JP!! You don't want a high scoring game?
ZuZu's Petals |
11.27.08 - 12:52 pm | #
Thanks in advance!
SteveNS
Dark meat, white, or both?
Gravy on the stuffing?
Gromit |
11.27.08 - 12:52 pm | #
I guess it's time to head over to the crazy sister's house.
I'm bringing salad. Took me an hour to prep. The funny thing about salad is that no one will eat it because there's too much "food." However, I was asked to bring salad, so I'm bringing salad. It consists of red and green leaf lettuce, a small amount of red onion, cucumber, pears, toasted pecans, dried cherries, and bleu cheese, dressed with a red wine vinegarette (I serve that on the side).
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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11.27.08 - 12:52 pm | #
Yeah, it's odd - I'm not sure whether they're gay or just hate women so deeply that men are the only viable alternative.
They don't like liberal women, that's for sure.
Terry C ♥'s Pres. Obama |
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11.27.08 - 12:52 pm | #
why does the Secret Service collect his poop when he travels overseas?
peterboy | 11.27.08 - 12:00 pm | #
El Fredo is hungry, that's why.
ronjazz |
11.27.08 - 12:53 pm | #
LarryElvis on an unseasonably warm Turkee Day.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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11.27.08 - 12:53 pm | #
My sexism and lack of introspection gives me away. steve simels
Indeed. What clinched it for me though was when random nyms started trashing David Bowie and claiming his having two differently colored eyes made him pretentious.
JeffCO |
11.27.08 - 12:53 pm | #
Gromit,
Did you invite the good doctor over for dinner?
AndyMN |
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11.27.08 - 12:53 pm | #
All the trollies have major crushes on NTodd and simels.
While they have nothing but contempt for the ladies here.
Men who aren't getting any usually have contempt for women. It's why most porn shows women being degraded, humiliated, and dominated...masturbation fodder for guys who get rejected by women in real life.
Buzz Bomb |
11.27.08 - 12:53 pm | #
Lime Rickey:
I am SO sick of that "War on Christmas" shit.
Terry C ♥'s Pres. Obama
The only "war" is in the wingnut imagination.
Lime Rickey |
11.27.08 - 12:54 pm | #
I LOVE IT!!!!! Nice work!
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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11.27.08 - 12:54 pm | #
ZuZu's Petals: JP!! You don't want a high scoring game?
I like competition. This one's going to be rather one-sided.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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11.27.08 - 12:54 pm | #
Did you invite the good doctor over for dinner?
AndyMN
Nope. They always go to visit his mom in NYC.
Gromit |
11.27.08 - 12:55 pm | #
Tah-dah! The finished product. Karin Hussein
Nice! Looking at those I wish I were as filled with cheesecake as I am with hope.
JeffCO |
11.27.08 - 12:55 pm | #
I gotta scoot. Enjoy your day, everyone.
Peace.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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11.27.08 - 12:56 pm | #
Men who aren't getting any usually have contempt for women. It's why
most porn shows women being degraded, humiliated, and
dominated...masturbation fodder for guys who get rejected by women in
real life.
I believe it. I mean, these are individuals who refer to feminists as whores, bitches, and dykes.
Any woman who has the temerity to believe that she entitled to respect.
Terry C ♥'s Pres. Obama |
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11.27.08 - 12:56 pm | #
Dark meat, white, or both?
Gravy on the stuffing?
Yum!
Both, please; no gravy.
You are a prince among men, Gromit.
SteveNS |
11.27.08 - 12:56 pm | #
How excellent, Karin, and yummy-looking as well!
ronjazz |
11.27.08 - 12:57 pm | #
Terry C ♥'s Pres. Obama |
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11.27.08 - 12:57 pm | #
CNN headline
Deep-fried-turkey fire destroys home
Tis the season I suppose.
Lumpenprolitariot |
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11.27.08 - 12:57 pm | #
I am SO sick of that "War on Christmas" shit.
I wonder if Fox is going to be able to milk that much more this season. Their schtick is getting old and tired. I do still enjoy O'Reilly's impotent fulminating, though.
Buzz Bomb |
11.27.08 - 12:57 pm | #
Though, we certainly can unite around hating da Bears, right?
AndyMN
As Leonard Moon would say, "Abalooly!"
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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11.27.08 - 12:58 pm | #
Shit the bed here I'am
So Ho |
11.27.08 - 12:58 pm | #
If it makes HIM happy, then I'M happy!
Terry C ♥'s Pres. Obama | Homepage | 11.27.08 - 12:51 pm | #
Wow! Just wow! I told you guys that I was wrong about Terry. She is not a man hater. In fact, just the opposite. She is not even a feminist. She is a loving woman of her man. Whatever makes her man happy makes her happy.
Terry C. after this you can no longer bitch about women giving up to their men. You just did it to simels.
El Fredo |
11.27.08 - 12:58 pm | #
I wonder if Fox is going to be able to milk that much more this season.
Their schtick is getting old and tired. I do still enjoy O'Reilly's
impotent fulminating, though.
I wish O'Reilly's head would explode.
Terry C ♥'s Pres. Obama |
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11.27.08 - 12:59 pm | #
CNN headline
Deep-fried-turkey fire destroys home, arteries
I do still enjoy O'Reilly's impotent fulminating, though.
Buzz Bomb
His only reason to exist is to give Colbert something to play off of.
War on Christmas, the only one who's waged war on Christmas this year is the Bush economy.
I never said "Happy Holidays" until FOX turned it into a phrase that could piss off right-wingers. Now it's all I say.
Anthony McCarthy |
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11.27.08 - 1:00 pm | #
I am SO sick of that "War on Christmas" shit.
The Randites've already won that war by making everyone too poor to buy anything.
Judging from the comments here, we have a lot of work to do before we make any headway in the War on Thanksgiving.
R. McGeddon |
11.27.08 - 1:00 pm | #
What is it about Brooklyn Girl and Terry C anyway? They love their man so.
El Fredo |
11.27.08 - 1:00 pm | #
El Fredo will continue to attack strangers here, as long as he thinks they are female.
He is a piece of shit coward, in every aspect.
ronjazz |
11.27.08 - 1:01 pm | #
Why do people attempt to deep-fry turkee indoors?
Do they, really? Don't you have to dunk it some oil drum, or something?
AndyMN |
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11.27.08 - 1:01 pm | #
Apparently, the big and small tags don't work. So only some html tags work.
canajun |
11.27.08 - 1:01 pm | #
El Fredo is showing Ted behavior now. Ted and I go way back, farther than he remembers.
Anthony McCarthy |
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11.27.08 - 1:01 pm | #
I never said "Happy Holidays" until FOX turned it into a phrase that could piss off right-wingers. Now it's all I say.
You and me both.
I love pissing off wingnuts.
Terry C ♥'s Pres. Obama |
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11.27.08 - 1:01 pm | #
well, I have to hit the road. I hope the family is suitably impressed. One has strawberry, the other has raspberry. Both have the wild blueberries I picked in the summertime.
Karin Hussein |
11.27.08 - 1:02 pm | #
Both have the wild blueberries I picked in the summertime.
Johnson stopped by the Lions D behind the line of scrimmage!
That's more like it!
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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11.27.08 - 1:03 pm | #
El Fredo will continue to attack strangers here, as long as he thinks they are female.
He is a piece of shit coward, in every aspect.
I have him killfiled. Enough is enough. He makes some really sickening suppositions about people he knows nothing about.
I wish he'd morph into annie or mimi and go fuck himself.
Terry C ♥'s Pres. Obama |
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11.27.08 - 1:03 pm | #
Drive-by. Thanksgiving kisses for everyone. Happy Turkey Day!
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars |
11.27.08 - 1:03 pm | #
Afternoon, all.. Dinner reservation's not til 2, so I rest, unbothered, with a cold beer and the "Fawlty Towers" box set. Goooood times...
bill buckner |
11.27.08 - 1:03 pm | #
Conservatives should be grateful for the ideas that have undergirded the Movement for the last fifty years and more. They are ideas-like limited Constitutional government, the free market, individual freedom and responsibility, Judeo-Christian values, and a strong national defense — that are never out of date.
We should be grateful for the rising stars, like Governor Bobby Jindal, Congressman Mike Pence, and Senator DeMint among others, who will be leading the movement in the years and decades to come.
Yeah, what a sterling group. Jindal (a wannbe exorcist), Pence (a guy named after a British coin), and DeMint (a guy named after a candy bar).
You're gonna have to do better than that.
Lime Rickey |
11.27.08 - 1:09 pm | #
For those interested, you can currently pick up at Deep Discount DVD the Monty Python Megaset, the Prisoner Megaset, and the Avengers complete Emma Peel megaset for all of $30.38 apiece. Unbelievable!
JeffCO |
11.27.08 - 1:09 pm | #
I'm off to north-central MN for the day. Happy eatin', all!
AndyMN
Watch out for the wolves!
Gromit |
11.27.08 - 1:09 pm | #
hello all.
we're done with the meatball sandwiches, and back to drawing (the 6yo a wooly mammoth, the 8yo a unicorn), so i thought i'd check in with my cyber family
(the 6yo wants to type something... )
ina, meatballs & turkey |
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11.27.08 - 1:09 pm | #
I like 'season's greetings', because the holidays seem to run on for three freaking months.
Could be worse, you could have someone put a Christmas Village up, then it can last all year.
Anthony McCarthy |
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11.27.08 - 1:10 pm | #
There is no wonder that there is only 66 visitors.
But in the end, and it will end, Terry C, Brooklyn Girl, ronjazz, billy b. trademark dave and simels will be all that is left. Then they will sink into the netherworld.
And they will go down screaming, it's only a flesh wound.
It's Thanksgiving and it means nothing to these fucks.
El Fredo |
11.27.08 - 1:10 pm | #
There aren't a lot of wingers left, but every damn one of 'em stays tuned to Faux News.
Thinking for oneself is HARD WORK.
I mean, what WOULD they do without Rush or Faux News to tell them WHAT to think?
Where WOULD they GET all those Repig talking points that they love to parrot?
Terry C ♥'s Pres. Obama |
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11.27.08 - 1:10 pm | #
Ina, Ask them what kind of dinosaurs eat meatballs.
Gromit |
11.27.08 - 1:11 pm | #
There is no wonder that there is only 66 visitors.
Only 66 visitors? As if you could get two.
Anthony McCarthy |
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11.27.08 - 1:11 pm | #
It's Thanksgiving and it means nothing to these fucks.
Whereas you seem to have really captured the spirit in that statement.
Thanks for showing the way.
SteveNS |
11.27.08 - 1:11 pm | #
We should be grateful for the rising stars, like Governor Bobby
Jindal, Congressman Mike Pence, and Senator DeMint among others, who
will be leading the movement in the years and decades to come.
Rising stars?
Bring it on!
Terry C ♥'s Pres. Obama |
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11.27.08 - 1:12 pm | #
Ina, Ask them what kind of dinosaurs eat meatballs.
Please ignore the rudeness of some of the people on roster. Their mothers did not instill them with any manners.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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11.27.08 - 1:16 pm | #
67 visitors. Another theory blown out of the water...
And I'm with my family, both online and in meatspace.
atablarasa |
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11.27.08 - 1:17 pm | #
Stella and Iris.
Those are pretty names!
Terry C ♥'s Pres. Obama |
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11.27.08 - 1:18 pm | #
i love ina and stella
the 6yo |
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11.27.08 - 1:19 pm | #
I love you Ina
ithe 8yo | Homepage
Oh my gosh, that's adorable!
Ina, teh boyz sometimes read over my shoulder when I'm here. It's challenging to quickly scroll past the naughty words. Esp. since most comments contain at least one.
ali, liberal feminist agenda |
11.27.08 - 1:19 pm | #
A beautiful day in Mesa. 60's and thundershowers in the area, but sunshine poking through and lighting up the clouds very nicely. Add a pleasant breeze, hummingbirds wrestling over the feeder, turkey breasts in the oven and fresh-squeezed limeade at hand.
atablarasa |
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11.27.08 - 1:21 pm | #
Oh, my.
What a slaughter this is.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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11.27.08 - 1:21 pm | #
gosh, this does feel like a holiday gathering.
thank you for being so wonderful.
ina, happy |
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11.27.08 - 1:21 pm | #
Simels with broadband? Sounds dangerous! There otta be a Constitutional Amendment!
bill buckner | 11.27.08 - 1:12 pm | #
It's really -- what's the expression the kids use? -- awe inspiring.
steve simels |
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11.27.08 - 1:22 pm | #
I ♥ Ina and Iris and Stella.
Arthur J. GWPDA, LED |
11.27.08 - 1:22 pm | #
(Waves at Iris and Stella...) Yer Mom is cool...
bill buckner |
11.27.08 - 1:22 pm | #
Has there been a single flag thrown (other than the challenge flag)?
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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11.27.08 - 1:23 pm | #
No dinosaurs eat meatballs!
the 8yo |
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11.27.08 - 1:24 pm | #
No dinosaurs eat meatballs!
the 8yo
Scientists have discovered that the reason T Rex has tiny arms is that they were perfect for rolling meatballs.
Gromit |
11.27.08 - 1:25 pm | #
okay, i better get back to cooking.
thanks again, all.
i am grateful for this community.
ina, happy |
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11.27.08 - 1:25 pm | #
No dinosaurs eat meatballs!
the 8yo | Homepage | 11.27.08 - 1:24 pm | #
Just the vegetarians.
ronjazz |
11.27.08 - 1:25 pm | #
Scientists have discovered that the reason T Rex has tiny arms is that they were perfect for rolling meatballs.
Gromit | 11.27.08 - 1:25 pm |
On-topic for a moment, does the A-man actually think that anyone in government cares about agreements, contracts or treaties?
atablarasa |
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11.27.08 - 1:29 pm | #
Please, for the love of God -- someone fire Rod Marinelli after this game.
Hesiod |
11.27.08 - 1:29 pm | #
A 13yd. punt.
I'm about to shut this off.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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11.27.08 - 1:30 pm | #
HAPPY THANKSGIVING!! all you moonbats.
here is an interesting article about the benefits of napping:
National humiliation for the Lions.
Hesiod |
11.27.08 - 1:33 pm | #
s h e e p s
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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11.27.08 - 1:34 pm | #
Sorry to disagree with you Atrios, but the US has proved any number of times that trade treaty obligations are nothing but cute formality as far as US adherence goes.
I would point to my country's recent experience in the dispute over softwood lumber. The US decided that our system constituted a trade infringement and put a tarriff on our lumber. The NAFTA tribunal legally competent to rule on such things ruled 3 times in our favour. So the US just switched venues and moved it to the WTO and go them to bless their desired position.
Daniel De Groot |
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11.27.08 - 1:39 pm | #
They only trade agreements, barely worth the paper they were written on. Whoever is top dog can demand hatever they want, and we (USA) are still top dog.
uptown |
11.27.08 - 1:55 pm | #
we (USA) are still top dog.
Really?
Have you told the Chinese that?
Terry C ♥'s Pres. Obama |
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11.27.08 - 4:19 pm | #
"Have you told the Chinese that?"
They already know. Don't believe what the MSM tell you, do a little research on Wikipedia. The EU is our biggest competitor and is actually beating us, but they disagree so much among themselves it's hard to count them as one entity.
uptown |
11.27.08 - 5:04 pm | #
That is why I say we bail out the automakers by taking their Healthcare reponsiblities for workers and retirees and spouses. We can sell it by saying it is a way to give Detroit money, improve there credit rating and shore them up long term without any risk of violating trade agreements. Those agreements were crafted specifically to allow member nations to pay certain employee benefits such as health care without being considered subsidies. Win Win. Make autoworkers eligible for medicare regardless of age, and make automakers/UAW provide onlythe much cheaper supplemental insurance so that workers maintain the level of coverage they need.
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