HULK SMASH!!!
ME!!
Count me in!
YOU!!
hulk smash has it again!
I don't know what her trick was - but I never saw any of her crusts stick (like mine do) -she was a crisco only lady though (she was born in the Depression) - I use butter.
My mother avoided Crisco.. lard and butter preferably, but vegetable shortening (not Crisco) for bulk orders.
I am actually enjoying a sammitch as we speak
I miss Hunter S. Thompson..
i was anointed in crisco.
I'm going to feed him the finest casseroles of Velveeta and imitation chicken!
Vicki
Not advisable. I have SBS.
ill say that if i were a tibetan living under lama's i would have welcomed chinese rule.
Chimpy:
you know, I guess the best to describe government policy is like a person trying to drive a car on a rough patch. If you ever get stuck in a situation like that, you know full well it's important not to overcorrect -- because when you overcorrect you end up in the ditch. And so it's important to be steady and to keep your eyes on the horizon.
I have Irritable Bush Syndrome
I went to school with a Chris Coe.
No sandwich for me. Friday in lent its a bean and cheese burrito, prepared by a wife who can cook.
Thankee, Fezhead!
I have Irritable Bush Syndrome
WalterNeff, Oceanic 7th
With a spastic Colin.
Well, to-morrow I have to go pick up a new garden umbrella and some other stuff, from a seller on Craigslist. Then, I'll go to the post office and find out if I won this damned grant. Or not.
It's a rough life.
because when you overcorrect you end up in the ditch. And so it's important to be steady and to keep your eyes on the horizon.
Ya think he may have some experience driving drunk?
MP - nice return
Okay - I'm going to go out and drive recklessly now. See ya in the funny papers.
Funny how Americans don't know shit about Tibet.
Special Agent Dale Cooper would like a word with you up at the Great Northern.
Fake ham and fake swiss on fake bread.
Parts of it keep falling on the floor.
I hate this fucking country.
I just renewed my subscription to the Star Tribune.
How many other folks out there receive/buy the daily paper?
We through with pot pies, then?
Whoever decided that it was a good idea to cook celery should be dug up and pissed on.
JR, kerosene and a match
And cabbage, and turnips...
I remember at college, they'd always have baked turbot in the dining hall. They served other stuff, but I just remember the baked turbot.
How many other folks out there receive/buy the daily paper?
Not me, bubba. Had the chance last week to tell them to go to hell, -again-. And did.
Zap Rowsdower - I get the Boston Globe everday - although it sucketh more year after year. They announced yet another round of buyouts this week.
ive always been amazed that the american left would associate with the 'free tibet" 'movement'. so silly. it would be like supporting a 'restore the french crown' movement.
or every day..
Homemade pizza is good too. Not sure how long I can afford to buy flour though.
And so it's important to be steady and to keep your eyes on the horizon.
heh.
I get this mental picture of the beady-eyed little insect tooling down the road gazing up at the horizon and ending up in the ditch.
What a frappin' douchebag.
How many other folks out there receive/buy the daily paper?
Not anymore, but I used to subscribe to the New York Times, Daily News, New York Post and Wall Street Journal.
Too much paper, too little news.
I would like a chicken/green apple/brie on multigrain bread sandwich, please.
I like turnips. And parsnips and rutabagas. Root vegetables have a certain gravitas. And celery grows really weird - so much so that you end up applauding it for actually surviving.
Hey Neff, did you buy a new iPod ?
And cabbage, and turnips...
Elmer
I don't mind cabbage or turnips, if done right.
The cabbge needs to be fried in bacon fat with some caraway seeds. The turnip needs to be mashed with sour cream and nutmeg.
Enjoy every sandwich sparked the earworm:
"Climb Every Mountain"
Goddamn you, attaturk. Now I have bot the vocal and the visual of a stately mother superior in my head.
How many other folks out there receive/buy the daily paper?
Zap Rowsdower
Um, The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, owned by Richard Mellon Scaife. Not me.
Obama should survive today's little tempest pretty easily. The statements weren't that big a deal and he repudiated them as he has before. A lot of crap has been blown out of proportion lately, but ultimately stuff like this doesn't last too many news cycles.
And celery grows really weird - so much so that you end up applauding it for actually surviving.
Barmpot Shouty-Crackers
My father's descxription for something really boring was "as exciting as watching celery grow"
Can't keep my eyes open any longer.
Have a good weekend, y'all! Wish us luck and money and awards!
*MWAH!*
The stock market fall can be artfully blamed on bad loans to irresponsible lesser beings,the same "bad apples" that were forced to take the fall for Abu Garib, but sooner or later it must be acknowledged that w's IRAQ occupation and the incessant borrowing to pay for it has so weakened the economic strength of this country that no one can stop the fall.
Now we can go thru what Russia went through after the Soviet Union went bust.
Evening, all
We still receive the Muskegon Chronicle by subscription - for the local news and grocery ads and such.
We through with pot pies, then?
I haven't had a really good pot pie at home in decades. I had a delicious one at a restaurant last fall, though.
...Just cheesy late 50s sci-fi films: "Amazing Colossal Man," "Beginning of the End," "Beyond the Time Barrier," to name but a few I recall...
dave™©
The Attack of the 50 Foot Woman...
Science Fiction Theater
I gotta get me that. Is it just me being a cheapass, or are they getting a king's ransom for these old shows on DVD?
How many other folks out there receive/buy the daily paper?
It's too much trouble to recycle it.
Sad, but true.
How many other folks out there receive/buy the daily paper?
Zap Rowsdower
The ex strife was a fanatical NYT reader, prolly still is. Loser.
P O'Neill, you and Holden are driving me over the edge. Stop it. Stop it now.
So, no one calls sheets?
I subscribe to the Boston Globe and it's not a bad newspaper, except for their need to publish rightwingnuts like Jeff Jacoby on a regular basis to keep the dittoheads buying the paper.
The problem with pot pies is that no one makes them with real pot.
What a frappin' douchebag.
billy b
Chimpy? That dipshit actually worked the concept of driving into the ditch into his speech today. Dood has the self-awareness of the Titanic captain.
But if you teach a man to fish he will need no sandwiches.
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So, no one calls sheets?
Buckeye
Sheets were called, dude.
I really, really understand why most folk wouldn't want to read the daily. Probably, nay, definitely owned by some nasty company or faceless "capital investment" group.
It was a little over a year ago that McClatchy bough Knight Ridder, and then spun off both the Strib and the Pioneer Press. I'm loathe to spend money on the paper, but the alternative is that I have to look at people on the bus in the morning...
A lot of crap has been blown out of proportion lately, but ultimately stuff like this doesn't last too many news cycles.
A lot of crap has been blown out of proportion lately?
You funny.
I haven't had a really good pot pie at home in decades. I had a delicious one at a restaurant last fall, though.
Homosexual Activist
Ever tried Marie Callender's?
Celery and rhubard pie. Oh, my!
Oh goody, I got the IRS "economic stimulus payment notice". Here's what I learned from it.
If my income is more than zero, I can get up to $600.
If my income is zero ($0), I can get $300.
Thanks for spending tax money sending me something with such useless information.
Teach an American man to fish and he'll need a blood transfusion.
I have 2 papers delivered daily
Now we can go thru what Russia went through after the Soviet Union went bust.
vox clamantis in red state
*
verily
Too much trouble to recycle newspapers?
I put a weeks accumulation in a Trader Joe's paper bag and take the bag out on collection day and it's recycled by Cambridge. Not much to it.
A lot of Irish pubs make Shepard's Pie, but as a vegetarian, me no eat.
The cabbge needs to be fried in bacon fat with some caraway seeds. The turnip needs to be mashed with sour cream and nutmeg.
I like the cabbage steamed with a little butter, salt, and pepper.
Ever steam sweet potatoes and mash them with butter and chipotle peppers?
With a good grilled steak that's an almost orgasmic experience, culinarily speaking...
Here's something tasty:
Upper Peninsula Pasties
It's a recipe for cornish pasties, and the pastry is second to none.
The insides are pretty delish, too.
Since my kid is now a vegetarian, I can't cook these for "us" any more, but I highly recommend.
"Obama should survive today's little tempest pretty easily. The statements weren't that big a deal and he repudiated them as he has before."
i'm not so sure. i think i know probably more then most about his spiritual life thru his books and reading a lot of his website stuff, but doubt that many people know about that side of him.
i'd like to see him do a major address because i think that's one of the most attractive parts of him as a person, his thoughtfulness about faith.
Oh goody, I got the IRS "economic stimulus payment notice".
They spent at least one hundred million dollars to tell people that a check is on the way.
Ever tried Marie Callender's?
Nope. Good crust?
the chinese didnt murder a million tibetans. ffs.
Too much trouble to recycle newspapers?
If you don't read them, it's too much trouble.
A lot of Irish pubs make Shepard's Pie, but as a vegetarian, me no eat.
There be veg Shepard's Pies but me no recipe handy.
Not that that fact makes the Irish any better but still...
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How many other folks out there receive/buy the daily paper?
wife gets the local paper.
one of them, anyway: this metro area has three dailies. none of them are much good; even the gannett paper sucks.
I'd rather have the star-tribune, personally.
My father's descxription for something really boring was "as exciting as watching celery grow"
Fair enough - all the celery growing activity takes place below ground. Paint drying is more active.
ive always been amazed that the american left would associate with the 'free tibet" 'movement'. so silly. it would be like supporting a 'restore the french crown' movement.
Kinda depends on what the Tibetan people want -- and as near as I can tell from what I've read and heard, they want the Chinese to leave.
Ever steam sweet potatoes and mash them with butter and chipotle peppers?
With a good grilled steak that's an almost orgasmic experience, culinarily speaking...
billy b
For some reason I don't really care for sweet potatoes (nowhere near the hate I have for celery, though). Nor gourds of any kind.
Although the above sounds like it would work well with mashed turnip....
i'd like to see him do a major address because i think that's one of the most attractive parts of him as a person, his thoughtfulness about faith.
jdw
What, are you kidding me? He's a dirty Islamicist! Can't you tell by his middle name?
ummmm, my last sammich was in N. Little Rock back in 1980.
BaconBits is probably just chemicals and bits of tarpaper, but I eat that stuff right out of the jar.
I haven't had a sammich since before Thanksgiving.
but the alternative is that I have to look at people on the bus in the morning...
Zap Rowsdower
Got the cure for that, Right here
Kinda depends on what the Tibetan people want -- and as near as I can tell from what I've read and heard, they want the Chinese to leave.
Toonscribe | 03.14.08 - 9:56 pm |
i didnt know that. if true id probably change my mind.
The Irish couldn't feed themselves, and they brought their fucking shepherds pie over here? I ain't eatin that shit.
Greeks/Turks: same face, same race, great food. Praise the Allah of the kitchen!
Peace love and music --
Oh goody, I got the IRS "economic stimulus payment notice".
If the last two numbers of your Social Security number end in...
A lot of Irish pubs make Shepard's Pie,
Gilly Gonzylon
Made with real shepherds!
Ever tried Marie Callender's?
Yep. Back 'round '87. Me and three friends.
We all ended up with food poisoning.
Sooo...not a fan of Marie Callenders.
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Ever tried Marie Callender's?
For store-bought pot pie, that's pretty good.
I like Mrs. B's homemade pot pie.
Ever tried Marie Callender's?
marie callender's rules all other chicken pot pie. they microwave to perfection.
if you get them in quantity at costco, they're even affordable.
How many other folks out there receive/buy the daily paper?
weekly here. I knows what's going to happen 7 days in advanced.
Sandwich
you DARE talk to me of Sandwiches...
foolish 'turk
I drink your Milkshake!
I thought there was a floor income level of $3000 to receive any stimulus money. Am I wrong?
The Chinese will never leave Tibet and the Tibetans aren't strong enough to throw them out.
If the Chinese were smart, they'd give the Tibetans enough autonomy to practice their Buddhist faith and have the Dali Lama there and stop being so goddamned oppressive.
The Tibetans still wouldn't like them, but they might be tolerated.
Got the cure for that, Right here
Pfft...the paper is cheaper.
Plus, I've got an iPod touch. But until I get some games for it, I'm not gonna plunk down four bucks each for a movie.
Went goooooooogling for "eyepod" in search of that viewer thing, and found This
[cheezy spaceship noise]
Doods, you haveta make your own pies.
i think that's one of the most attractive parts of him as a person, his thoughtfulness about faith.
jdw
He ain't all thta thoughtful about lack of faith.
Made with real shepherds!
JR, kerosene and a match | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 9:58 pm | #
Aye, and four leafed clovers!
The Hitlerburger never really caught on after 1940.
ive always been amazed that the american left would associate with the 'free tibet" 'movement'. so silly. it would be like supporting a 'restore the french crown' movement.
"Leave me alone and stop killing me."
What kind of request is that?
What a bunch of crazy ingrates..The Chinese are just trying to civilize them. They should be more grateful, like the Iraqis..
if you get them in quantity at costco, they're even affordable.
At only 1500 calories/pie, it's a great deal.
Okay, I exaggerated. A little.
why should the lama be in power? he was as oppressive as the chinese but 5000 times backwards.
I have to finish my taxes, don't I?
First - a nice baked potato. Then sleeping. Then - taxes.
G'night!
I thought there was a floor income level of $3000 to receive any stimulus money. Am I wrong?
That's in there too, but it's not real clear. And if you make more than $75,000, tough luck.
What the Tibetans need is a good souvlaki.
At only 1500 calories/pie, it's a great deal.
Hmmm.. that's a plus.
Ever tried Marie Callender's?
hell, if you follow the directions, you might as well cook.
Melanie Morgan on Fox Hannity is beating Obama like a mule over the shameful Jeremiah Wright obscenities. Fox News will ride this story to victory next November. Obamamania is so over and out. Gotta love them apples.
The Hitlerburger never really caught on after 1940.
MP |
The Bush family LOVES Hitlerburgers!
A lot of crap has been blown out of proportion lately? You funny.
I didn't much enjoy Keith smirking when Alter obliquely referred to Whitewater or as he made sure everyone knew what he meant. Also forgot to mention there was no there there. Maybe he just had some bad clams.
Plus, I actually enjoy reading the newspaper...always have.
I guess I'm fine paying money for that. I can keep tabs on my hometown on my own time.
For some reason I don't really care for sweet potatoes (nowhere near the hate I have for celery, though). Nor gourds of any kind.
I couldn't stand sweet potatoes until Alton Brown whipped 'em up this way on his show.
I like your turnip idea. I'll try that.
How many other folks out there receive/buy the daily paper?
Chicago Tribune delivered every morning by 5:30 AM. Always read it before leaving for work. Give at least $40 at Christmas to the Hispanic man who has been delivering it for at least 10 years.
iraq had a functioning secular socialist state before we fucked them.
tibet? not so much.
if you get them in quantity at costco, they're even affordable.
theodoric, evolutionary dead e | 03.14.08 - 9:58 pm | #
Massively high in calories, though, if you care about that sort of thing ...
I don't think I have read a newspaper on paper in 5 or 10 years.
Melanie Morgan on Fox Hannity is beating Obama like a mule over the shameful Jeremiah Wright obscenities. Fox News will ride this story to victory next November. Obamamania is so over and out. Gotta love them apples.
auggiesback
Your mother.
"Too much trouble to recycle newspapers?"
our *&&^%$#&'d up city just changed their recycling program. it used to be you'd put all metal and glass in one bag, newspapers in another.
they changed but didn't tell anyone, and now only take paper and aluminum, and instead of using a contractor the city picks it up because they say they can make a lot of money on the aluminum.
so what they do is have a pickup truck with two employees drive to every address, check people's bags to make sure they contain only aluminum and paper, then later another truck comes by to pick the stuff up.
all other metal and glass ends up in a landfill, and at gas $3.40 a gallon and now 3 employees to tag and take the stuff, i hardly believe they are making money.
Melanie Morgan on Fox Hannity is beating Obama like a mule over the shameful Jeremiah Wright obscenities.
Obama shows a real lack of judgement going on FOX Noise.
Got the cure for that, Right here
Elmer, PHD (horrible)
*
Is that baby time-tested for possibly blinding people?
My EE brother said that chronic cell-phone users would be very likely to grow brain tumors. I wonder if this much radio activity near one's eyes is any good.
I haven't gotten my letter yet.
tibet? not so much.
euphronius
Which is why they should welcome the Chinese, right?
That's in there too, but it's not real clear. And if you make more than $75,000, tough luck.
The note I got today says $3K in income, SS benefits, and/or veteran's payments.
Oops, sorry. Accidentally fed a troll.
The Hitlerburger never really caught on after 1940.
Well, they kept serving it with that fucking German potato salad. No wonder it never caught on.
Hitlerburgers sold here.
(Shameless blogwhore.)
.
I take a shameful obscenities sandwich with me every Saturday when I go out walking in the park.
Melanie Morgan is mentally retarded and emotionally unstable. Who gives a fuck what that maladjusted moron says?
Obama shows a real lack of judgement going on FOX Noise.
puppethead
But will he answer the phone at 3am?
God is a concept
By which we measure
Our pain
Obama shows a real lack of judgement going on FOX Noise.
puppethead | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 10:01 pm | #
I dunno ... it gives him practice in dealing with the kind of trash they'll be throwing at him down the road.
Obamamania is so over and out.
Maybe they've gotten a clue that you can't bully people into voting or accuse people of racism or pretend he's not going to have a rough ride.
Good grief.
Always a learning experience.
Which is why they should welcome the Chinese, right?
Duane V | 03.14.08 - 10:02 pm | #
my only point was was that if i had lived under the lama, i would have welcomed the chinese.
I got my letter from the Feds today. I don't qualify.
Took out some money last year, so I owe.
"Ever tried Marie Callender's"
They are OK, but that's about all you can say about them.
It's easy enough to make a pot pie.
Bake a turkey or chicken or use the leftovers from one, chop up the poultry meat to desired size. chop up some potatoes carrots and whatever other kinds of vegetables you want in the pies. Make a egg/vinager crust,
make a bechamel sauce. assemble and bake.
And while they often disappoint since I am a wild eyed Progressive they occasionally surprise with a perceptive editorial.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/
ne...0,7172438.story
Summary:
Hillary is not a racist (nor Geraldine) and Barack is not responsible for Reverend White.
Who amongst us hasn't been shameless with a sandwich?
.
I couldn't stand sweet potatoes until Alton Brown whipped 'em up this way on his show.
billy b
I may try it out, if neither of us like it the dog will be happy....
Obama shows a real lack of judgement going on FOX Noise.
puppethead
I'd be amazed if one voter out of thirty knows anything about that story.
it gives him practice in dealing with the kind of trash they'll be throwing at him down the road.
They should not be legitimized by any Democrat, ever. Even if Bill Press says they should. God, he's a moron.
Nope. Good crust?
Homosexual Activist
Not bad. Better'n Banquet, that's for sure. I'm more for the filling, though, so YMMV.
Who amongst us hasn't been shameless with a sandwich?
I, for one, inhale the 1/4 weiner.
Melanie Morgan is mentally retarded and emotionally unstable. Who gives a fuck what that maladjusted moron says?
auggie, the flea-bitten, mangy cur.
if you get them in quantity at costco, they're even affordable.
My Costco has Tofurky Italian Sausage, but they keep it next to the real sausage.
God is a concept
By which we measure
Our pain
Osama al-Speedy the Greek
God is a concept which is a pain.
Plus, I actually enjoy reading the newspaper...always have.
I miss reading the paper while eating breakfast.
Made with real shepherds!
JR, kerosene and a match
German ones?
1/4 lb. weiner.
It sucks to be me when I fuck up a joke.
"He ain't all thta thoughtful about lack of faith."
actually, i think he is. i'm an agnostic and am generally uncomfortable with the way religion is manipulated and used in the public sphere. i don't have any uneasiness with what i've read so far.
Now, if anyone needs a "recipe" for a real meat pie, I have a nice one...
i had lived under the lama, i would have welcomed the chinese.
euphronius
No you wouldn't. The Chinese have been brutal. Which is one of the reasons the majority of Tibetans want the Dali Lama back.
I'd be amazed if one Democraticvoter out of thirty knows anything about that story.
MP
The righty whities'll all know it by heart.
German ones?
Duane V
You went to my high school?
I may try it out, if neither of us like it the dog will be happy....
A tip - seed the chipotles. Your bowels will thank you.
I couldn't stand sweet potatoes until Alton Brown whipped 'em up this way on his show.
I make a swt. tater, spice berry, oatmeal cookie bar. when I don't get a late freeze.
I miss reading the paper while eating breakfast.
Homosexual Activist
I miss the good old days, back when the newspaper had news...
Who amongst us hasn't been shameless with a sandwich?
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spork_incident | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 10:04 pm | #
as in a SILF ?
No you wouldn't. The Chinese have been brutal. Which is one of the reasons the majority of Tibetans want the Dali Lama back.
Rudy | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 10:06 pm | #
i havent seen such a poll. if true ill change my mind.
Plus, I actually enjoy reading the newspaper...always have.
We haven't lived here for enough years to care about Ann Arbor news, although we've subscribed off and on for nine years. It also endorsed Bush in 2004.
Haven't quite gotten over that.
A tip - seed the chipotles. Your bowels will thank you.
billy b
I usually get th smoked ones from the Mexican store.. already cleaned.
They used to serve a chicken pie at Oscar's that had a puff pastry crust. It was wonderful ... just the right amount of vegetables, chunks of chicken, and white sauce. This may sound gross, but I had a friend who put a drop of ketchup in the pie when eating it, and it added just a bit of tang to the sauce. Yummy.
Tofurkey?
Now that's just fucked up.
i think life under a regressive theocratic dictatorship would be worse than the PRC. but i admit i could be wrong.
If I could order just the A section, I would subscribe to the Glob & Snail.
as in a SILF ?
Gilly Gonzylon | 03.14.08 - 10:06 pm | #
Is it a cheese sandwich?
"Even if Bill Press says they should. God, he's a moron."
i heard bill press on the radio singing the praises of tucker.
wtf????????????
Vicki sez:
I, for one, inhale the 1/4 weiner.
Now, how the HELL can I respond to something like that?
Damn, you, Vicki, damn you.
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"Make a egg/vinager crust,
make a bechamel sauce. assemble and bake."
--Doug
If I can get my 85-year-old mom to join us, we could create a web site for everyone who will need it. Back to basics, as if anyone knows what basics is.
The Irish couldn't feed themselves, and they brought their fucking shepherds pie over here? I ain't eatin that shit.
Greeks/Turks: same face, same race, great food. Praise the Allah of the kitchen!
Peace love and music --
Hamri al-Speedy | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 9:57 pm | #
Snark, right? Or this Irish SOB is going to kick you mother fuckin ass from here to Dublin.
JR, John L wouldn't disagree.
If you've got the time, let me know what you think of these translations of French songs (Brel, Brassens, and Moustaki) http://www.last.fm/music/
Black+V...Brel+Plus+Demos
Thx
Write to robert@blackveils.com
Peace!
The other day I had for lunch a baked white potato split open and topped with non-fat yogurt and medium hot salsa!
Hooooo-Wheee! It was yummy and I believe I consumed a total of 90 calories. Plus I was stuffed for hours!
I was appalled when someone in these parts posted about a peanut butter, pickle, and mayo sandwich he was making.
This just in, via McLaughlin & pals: Monica Crowley is OUTRAGED over Spitzer.
I, for one, inhale the 1/4 weiner.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
Natural casing, or skinless?
I was appalled when someone in these parts posted about a peanut butter, pickle, and mayo sandwich he was making.
Gilly Gonzylon | 03.14.08 - 10:09 pm | #
Oh jeez, that's disgusting.
as in a SILF ?
Silda *** **** **** ****?
Is it just me or is Mrs. Spitzer easy on the eyes?
.
This just in, via McLaughlin & pals: Monica Crowley is OUTRAGED over Spitzer.
JeffCO | 03.14.08 - 10:09 pm | #
This coming from the woman who blew Nixon.
I, for one, inhale the 1/4 weiner.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
Paging Dr Gomez...
Haven't quite gotten over that.
There is that.
For many years, the Strib was owned/run by a good family. They butted heads a few times with the Newspaper Guild, but it didn't stop quality production, sane columnists (save a few folks), and spot-on editorials.
Now that they're owned by an investment firm, OTOH...well, let's just say I give them business out of misplaced loyalty, I'm sure.
I was appalled when someone in these parts posted about a peanut butter, pickle, and mayo sandwich he was making.
Mayo? Ick!
...and now, I'm going to walk home from work.
I'll see you patriotz in a half hour or so.
Now, how the HELL can I respond to something like that?
Because of your loyalty to the ex?
If you've got the time, let me know what you think of these translations of French songs
better get plum p, because my French sucks large.
My EE brother said that chronic cell-phone users would be very likely to grow brain tumors. I wonder if this much radio activity near one's eyes is any good.
My degree is in EE, too. The cell-phone-causes-cancer thing is unproven conjecture, and I don't buy it.
In any case, modern cellular phones only use a tenth as much power as the first generation, so any research from that era should be taken with a grain of salt.
"Ethanol driving up food costs" says the headline on MSNBC.com
That whole situation reminds me of a Moebius Strip. "Hey, we don't need to import so much oil, but we're fucking you when you need to eat something."
The other day I had for lunch a baked white potato split open and topped with non-fat yogurt and medium hot salsa!
That's the way I've taken to consuming baked potatoes.
'Cep'n I like the hot version of the salsa. Lately, I've been using Goya pico de gallo.
Is it just me or is Mrs. Spitzer easy on the eyes?
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spork_incident | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 10:10 pm | #
Yes, she's a very attractive woman. With a law degree. No dope.
We're starting to take bets as to how long it will be before she files for divorce.
The Hitlerburger never really caught on after 1940.
MP |
The Bush family LOVES Hitlerburgers!
Duane V
Junior hadn't got "elected", he coulda opened a little eatery in Crawford, called "Mein Lunch"
i heard bill press on the radio singing the praises of tucker.
wtf????????????
jdw
*
selfishness, Press was a regular on Tucker.
Is it just me or is Mrs. Spitzer easy on the eyes?
I thought she looked like Jennifer Aniston's sexy older sister.
"Mayo? Ick!"
ya got that right. everyone knows you should use mustard on that sandwich.
i heard bill press on the radio singing the praises of tucker.
Bill Press is the worst example of a media whore. I heard him call up and sing the praises of Politico for their "bold reporting" on their one-year anniversary. He wants to suck up to whomever necessary for the cocktail weenies.
I was appalled when someone in these parts posted about a peanut butter, pickle, and mayo sandwich he was making.
When you make a peanut butter sandwich use fresh chopped fruit instead of jam for the sweet part. It's better.
Is it just me or is Mrs. Spitzer easy on the eyes?
It ain't just you, brother.
ya got that right. everyone knows you should use mustard on that sandwich.
jdw | 03.14.08 - 10:12 pm | #
(looks for wastebasket to hurl)
ya got that right. everyone knows you should use mustard on that sandwich.
jdw | 03.14.08 - 10:12 pm | #
ketchup.
I thought she looked like Jennifer Aniston's sexy older sister.
JeffCO
Right on the money.
ya got that right. everyone knows you should use mustard on that sandwich.
jdw
So long as it's Keen's, not that yellow-cornstarch-and-vinegar stuff.
That whole
"Writer's Strike" post at Orange Satan really got under the skin of a lot of Kossacks.
Pass the popcorn!
I started reading the paper (Chicago Daily News) around 1967. I use to keep track of the daily body counts like it was the score of a baseball game. Don't blame me, I was 12 and a Cub fan. Always had a good day when we doubled or tripled our dead.
Needless to say, I've become more nuanced as I've aged.
Lately, I've been using Goya pico de gallo.
billy b | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 10:11 pm | #
What do you have against Jewish Salsa?
The Irish couldn't feed themselves, and they brought their fucking shepherds pie over here? I ain't eatin that shit.
as fergison said the other night, only the Irish could starve, when surrounded by fish.
As the American economy sinks beneath the waves it is not comforting to see the depraved moron, Bushboy, whose wars, tax cuts for the rich and deregulation of the financial industry has brought this about.
If ever there was a WH occupant who should be evicted and sent back to the ranch, it's Bushboy.
Forget Spitzer. He's a footnote.
Reason #3 Spitzer's a chump.
JeffCO | 03.14.08 - 10:13 pm | #
What are #1 and #2?
the irish starved because they were forced into non optimal agriculture by the british.
I thought Mrs Spitzer was very attractive, but then I like younger women ... (these things are relative)
GAAAAAAAAHHHHH:
Republican John McCain said he worries that terrorists might try to influence the November general election with increased attacks in Iraq.
"Yes, I worry about it," he said Friday, responding to a question at a town hall-style forum. "And I know they pay attention, because of the intercepts we have of their communications."
The questioner asked if McCain feared al-Qaida in Iraq or another group might attack in an effort to aid the Democratic nominee, because Democratic Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama both favor a withdrawal of U.S. forces.
Dumbfuckingmotherfuckingdumb...
Is it just me or is Mrs. Spitzer easy on the eyes?
It ain't just you, brother.
Wall, her maiden name, is prominent in my family.
"Is it just me or is Mrs. Spitzer easy on the eyes?"
i thought so, too.
What are #1 and #2?
Those are left as an exercise for the reader.
"Ethanol driving up food costs" says the headline on MSNBC.com
$4 per gallon for diesel fuel has nothing to do with it. Trucks are almost never used to deliver goods.
Rudy,
It would give one at least a small amount of comfort to believe that there was someone in Washington or New York or some other major financial center who had a fucking clue about what was happening and what to do about it, wouldn't it?
At this point I have not seen evidence that they even are cognizant of the problem let alone the solution.
My degree is in EE, too. The cell-phone-causes-cancer thing is unproven conjecture, and I don't buy it.
*
Did you check out the link to the video eyeglasses? What do you think of videos playing an inch from your eyes? Just wondering.
I remember when microwaves were new and my pregnant sister was mighty spooked getting near them.
the irish starved because they were forced into non optimal agriculture by the british.
euphronius
it's a wee bit more nuanced than that. and a mould was involved.
How cool is Hulu? You can now watch "The Big Lebowski" - in its entirety and for free - at my blog. Clickety-click my homepage.
euphronius
it's a wee bit more nuanced than that. and a mould was involved.
JR, kerosene and a match | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 10:16 pm | #
yeah but im tired.
How cool is Hulu? You can now watch "The Big Lebowski" - in its entirety and for free - at my blog. Clickety-click my homepage.
WalterNeff, Oceanic 7th | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 10:16 pm | #
I'm almost through Season 1 of Arrested Development.
WalterNeff, Oceanic 7th | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 10:16 pm | #
Good twist on "Lost" last night, huh?
and i meant english, not british.
the Glob & Snail.
Reading too fast, I thought that was the name of a pub...
How cool is Hulu? You can now watch "The Big Lebowski" - in its entirety and for free - at my blog. Clickety-click my homepage.
WalterNeff, Oceanic 7th
I wasn't able to watch it. The sign said it was intended for mature audiences onle.
yeah but im tired.
euphronius
Yeah, but you forgot absentee landlords and the Church.
XenoPat and Monica Crowley want their pound of flesh from Spitzer.
it's a wee bit more nuanced than that. and a mould was involved.
euph tickles the shit out of me.
Hey euph, how about them Third World Countries?
Spitzer is a tragic figure. His good judgement overcome by hubris and testosterone, just like other politicians who thought they could get away with sexual scandals.
The truth is some have. Newt Gingrich, Bill Clinton and David Vitter (so far).
How cool is Hulu?
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Good twist on "Lost" last night, huh?
Brooklyn Girl | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 10:18 pm | #
Lemme guess - Kate got sweaty, and Jack raised his voice to someone?
Hey euph, how about them Third World Countries?
billy b | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 10:18 pm | #
grrrr you button pusher!
Hey at least we had a FISA victory today.
sweet dreams kids, Imout.
I am proud to say that I am the exclusive commenter at Walter Neff's blog.
Well, not by his choice, I'm sure...
$4 per gallon for diesel fuel has nothing to do with it. Trucks are almost never used to deliver goods.
puppethead
But they use it better than BushCo. & China who are pumping 100K's bbl. of oil into their strategic reserves. (holes in the ground)
Reading too fast, I thought that was the name of a pub...
Elmer
My favourite "pub name involving a predator/prey relationship" is The Slug and Lettuce
Good evening, folks.
Here's one for NTodd:
Careful with that coffee! Police say a man placing an order in a suburban New York doughnut shop's drive-through lane didn't have any pants on.
They say a Dunkin' Donuts worker saw John Greco's exposed genitals in the Feb. 27 stunt and then noted the make of his car and his license plate number.
Police say the 46-year-old Croton-on-Hudson resident was arrested last week and has been charged with misdemeanor public lewdness. He's due in court March 27.
Police released a statement Thursday saying it was "unknown how Mr. Greco took his coffee that day."
Greco says by telephone from his home that he has no comment on the police report.
Republican John McCain said he worries that terrorists might try to influence the November general election with increased attacks in Iraq.
Hey, Walnuts, you been watchin the Dow?
Go back and read some of what bin Laden was saying about ten years ago. Your pal Bush fulfilled all Osama's wildest dreams.
fucking asshole. of COURSE you "worry" . you worry on your knees every fucking morning.
pleasegawdpleasegawdpleasegawdpleasegawdpleasegawd
send mesomeayrabsinoctoberpleasegawdpleasegawdpleasegaw
d
There is an Irish saying, "There is good even in an Englishman." -- it is not often used, however ...
Frau Spitzer has a hub-capped diamond star halo.
Lemme guess - Kate got sweaty, and Jack raised his voice to someone?
Gilly Gonzylon | 03.14.08 - 10:19 pm | #
Nope, and nope!
my wife (o'brien clan) is the expert on irish.
i honestly dont know as mush as i should.
and i meant english, not british.
euphronius
I prefer to think of it as revenge - served very cold.
Republican John McCain said he worries that terrorists might try to influence the November general election...
No one could have anticipated...
Brought to you by Newscorp, a Rupert Murdoch enterprise.
It's also "brought to you" by GE. So, if you're gonna go big....
i had lived under the lama, i would have welcomed the chinese.
A few odds and ends I picked up:
Invaded with 35,000 troops in 1949 in an act of unprovoked aggression. There is no generally accepted legal basis for China's claim of sovereignty. [Tibet Support Group -- UK, 1990]
Reprisals for the 1959 National Uprising involved the elimination of 87,000 Tibetans by the Chinese count alone, accoording to a Radio Lhasa broadcast of 1 October, 1960. [Tibet Support Group -- UK, 1990]
Tibetan exiles claim that 430,000 died in the 1959 Uprising and in the years of guerrilla warfare which continued for 15 years, until the U.S. withdrew support. [Tibet Support Group -- UK, 1990]
The International Commission of Jurists concluded in its reports, 1959 and 1960, that there was a prima facie case of genocide committed by the Chinese upon the Tibetan nation. These reports deal with events before the cultural revolution. [Tibet Support Group -- UK, 1990]
The Indian government reports that 3 nuclear missile sites, and an estimated 300,000 troops were stationed in Tibetan territory. [Tibet Support Group -- UK, 1990]
Undertook by the 1951 Agreement not to interfere with Tibet's existing system of government and society, but never kept these promises in eastern Tibet and in 1959 reneged on the treaty altogether. [Tibet Support Group -- UK, 1990]
There is no evidence to support China's claim that Tibet is autonomous: all local legislation is subject to approval of central government in Beijing; all local government is subject to the regional party, which in Tibet has never beeen run by a Tibetan. 20% of TAR Communist Party cadres are Chinese. [Tibet Support Group -- UK, 1990]
Exile sources estimate that up to 260,000 people died in prisions and labour camps between 1950 and 1984. [Tibet Support Group -- UK, 1990]
There is an Irish saying, "There is good even in an Englishman." -- it is not often used, however ...
Prior Aelred
Why did the sun never set on the British Empire?
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God wouldn't trust an Englishman in the dark.
Lemme guess - Kate got sweaty, and Jack raised his voice to someone?
They pulled the chimp mask off "Number One" and it was Patrick McGoohan?
"Ethanol driving up food costs" says the headline on MSNBC.com
I was at a local pizzaria for lunch today and the owner was talking about how he had to raise prices because of dairy last year and he's going to have to raise prices again soon because of wheat.
The Iraq Veterans Against the War just did a "winter soldier 2008" event. lots of testimony, sobering as hell, lots of press.
www.ivaw.org
-AnB
and he's going to have to raise prices again soon because of wheat.
JeffCO
wheat's doubled in price here.
Hey euph, how about them Third World Countries?
Like Merika, pretty soon the Chinese will be shipping over here, their crappy jobs, and contaminated scrap goods for your children to recycle.
dirty sweet oh yeah
And the whole al-Speedy clan would like to clarify that it has nothing against the Irish. It was being snarky and trying to draw attention to its jihad for peace. Thx y'all.
Brought to you by Newscorp, a Rupert Murdoch enterprise.
It's also "brought to you" by GE.
And the "talent" gets shit, even though they're selling ads.
Nope, and nope!
Brooklyn Girl | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 10:20 pm | #
Okay, here's something that will never happen on LOST:
Jack - "I'm going on a expedition to find the others"
Kate - "Hmm...I'll just stay here and hang out"
I hve nothing against the Irish except for the incessant whining.
toonscribe interesting numbers.
i would not have fought the Chinese. that was my point.
Is it just me or is Mrs. Spitzer easy on the eyes?
I thought she looked like Jennifer Aniston's sexy older sister.
JeffCO
Jennifer's aging much better than the Orphan Collector is.
The one who thinks the U.S. should stay in Iraq.
Crazy as her father, that one is.
The voice of Ron Howard narrates "Arrested Development"
Frau Spitzer has a hub-capped diamond star halo.
Eliot is wrapped up like a douche, you know a rumor in the night.
wtf is this creepy movie on amc...some little kid with 666 on the back of his haid..
At this point I have not seen evidence that they even are cognizant of the problem let alone the solution.
Beowulf Schaeffer
The sad truth is that no one at this point really knows the magnitude of the credit crisis or whether it will spin further out of control.
Is Bear Stearns typical or an exception of other lending institutions? How many more bailouts will be necessary? And what happens when the Fed runs out of money? Which isn't too far off.
This whole thing is scarey. But scariest of all is that Bushboy will have a say in it's resolution.
The fact is, he hasn't a clue about how he caused this problem or what he should do about it. He's pathetically stupid, incredibly ignorant and habitually incompetent.
ryan howard will hit 70+ hrs this year.
I came here for the Warren Zevon lines and now I'm gonna leave disappointed.
/Send lawyers, guns and money
/Dad, get me out of this!
Also on Hulu: the episode of "McHale's Navy" written by Joseph Heller.
Also on Hulu: the episode of "McHale's Navy" written by Joseph Heller.
dave™© | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 10:25 pm | #
Thanks for the earworm!
Crazy as her father, that one is.
Terry C, No Gravatar
Oh what a drippy douchebag. "I think we have to stand by our President.."
Didn't they used to have a cane to pull crappy acts off the stage back in vaudeville?
for example, if canada invaded the US proclaiming healthcare and hockey for all, i would not fight back.
"Bunny Lake Is Missing" alert:
Preminger's film, with a cameo by the Zombies began on TCM about 20 mins ago.
I came here for the Warren Zevon lines and now I'm gonna leave disappointed.
When Yanni strikes up the ban!
Howbout Spitzer's ho tho, huh? If I was Mrs. Spitzer all I would say is, "Well, OK, but I know my kids are mine. C-ya Eliot, buhbye."
Also on Hulu: the episode of "McHale's Navy" written by Joseph Heller.
dave™©
Hulu rocks, for now.
I hve nothing against the Irish except for the incessant whining.
JR, kerosene and a match | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 10:23 pm | #
We Irish are the poetic soul of Humanity.
What's a sandwich?
We Irish are the poetic soul of Humanity.
Shared Humanity
That's not "poetry", that's "sheep-shagging"
I came here for the Warren Zevon lines and now I'm gonna leave disappointed.
damn, missed it ... but:
There's a train leavin' nightly called when all is said and done ...
Eliot is wrapped up like a douche, you know a rumor in the night.
Shit! I thought the lyrics were, well...
Van Morrison is an honorary Arab.
In his next life he could become Greek, with effort and the right collaborator.
I keep thinking (probably erroneously) that this ignoring of the devaluation of the dollar is the final attempt to break the back of the American people. It is transferring whatever wealth that we have left to those who own the oil. Honestly.
And then the government actually has the balls to come out with a report stating there is NO - ZERO - NIL - ZIP - NADA - inflation last month. Who in the fuck do they think we are: absolute fucking fools?
if canada invaded the US proclaiming healthcare and hockey for all, i would not fight back.
euphronius |
I'd be one of the first defectors.
I am a shameless Canadaphile - always have been.
Hulu's also got two seasons of Bob Newhart.
And "Dragnet 1967." This episode looks like a good bet.
Brought to you by Newscorp, a Rupert Murdoch enterprise.
openhulu.com -- come for the scrape, stay for the movies
barbecued boston butt in the fridge. maybe I'll have another sandwich.
Client number 6 appears to be the Duke of Westminster.
What's up
Client number 10 flew a call girl from LA to Chicago on March 4th.
Crazy as her father, that one is.
Terry C, No Gravatar
Oh what a drippy douchebag. "I think we have to stand by our President.."
Didn't they used to have a cane to pull crappy acts off the stage back in vaudeville?
MP
I didn't care much for her to begin with, but when she came out with that crap......
It was like "Shut up, bitch!"
Client number 6 appears to be the Duke of Westminster.
Shared Humanity
But...who is Number One?
perhaps i can be the Curveball to convince Oatawa t invade.
I am not a number!
*oops*
barbecued boston butt in the fridge. maybe I'll have another sandwich.
Mmmmm.
It's not warm enough up here to fire up the smoker yet.
My daughter's latest tattoo.
Number 3.
http://thumbsnap.com/v/0w7ac1PT.jpg
Six words: Johnny Sokko and His Flying Robot.
'Nuff said!
perhaps i can be the Curveball to convince Oatawa t invade.
euphronius
You'll know it's over when there's a Tim Horton's on every corner and Wendy's is serving poutine.
ah, so this flick was 'omen'. creepy.
on now, 'omen 2'.
Beowulf Schaeffer - Revolution
The dollar has been getting crushed for years with the imbalance in the trade deficit. The US cannot keep buying far more goods from other countries than we export ourselves.
However Bushboy might have fixed that problem by impoverishing Americans so we can no longer buy foreign goods in the quantities we did in the past.
And since he's made the dollar plunge, we might even be able to export some goods to foreign countries since they will now be cheap.
That Bushboy. He's like Mr. McGoo. Wrecking everything in his path and not even aware of it.
Even thought the lyrics are "revved up like a deuce", Manfred Mann says "wrapped up like a douche", I don't care what anyone says.
My daughter's latest tattoo.
Number 3.
Why would you tattoo the number 3 on your body?
I hve nothing against the Irish except for the incessant whining.
Funny the effect 900 years of oppression will have on people.
You'll know it's over when there's a Tim Horton's on every corner and Wendy's is serving poutine.
JR, kerosene and a match | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 10:35 pm | #
i remember driving to quebec a few years ago - first real time "in country " and for the longest time i thought tim horton was running for office or something.
"But...who is Number One?
Elmer, PHD (horrible) |"
When is this coming out on DVD?
The MS State/Alabama game in the Georgia Dome in Atlanta is paused for possible tornado damage to the dome roof etc.
Mopping up and starting re-warmup in a minute.
-
Funny the effect 900 years of oppression will have on people.
Toonscribe
Tell it to the Cruithne.
I have nothing against the Irish except for the incessant whining.
Oh, and their mothers! It's always "my Irish mother this" and "my Irish mother that"!
It's not warm enough up here to fire up the smoker yet.
spent half a tank of propane on it.
it's a lot better than I get with the electric smoker though, and a lot less mess than charcoal/wood, although I don't have the patience for that anyway.
Was number 9 named Alice Cooper?
I keep thinking (probably erroneously) that this ignoring of the devaluation of the dollar is the final attempt to break the back of the American people. It is transferring whatever wealth that we have left to those who own the oil. Honestly.
And then the government actually has the balls to come out with a report stating there is NO - ZERO - NIL - ZIP - NADA - inflation last month. Who in the fuck do they think we are: absolute fucking fools?
Beowulf Schaeffer - Revolution | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 10:31 pm | #
You are giving them far too much credit. The Carlyle Group are on the verge of bankruptcy. Think of them as the spoiled youth of wealthy parents who are always raiding the piggy bank. No real talent and weak beyond belief. For those with a sense of history, think Hunt brothers.
Unfortunately, they take us down with them.
Why would you tattoo the number 3 on your body?
dave™©
Some NASCAR fans probably have.
Earnhardt.
When is this coming out on DVD?
"The Prisoner"? It's been out on DVD for some time.
I got the whole set from the local library a while back.
Still great!
Who in the fuck do they think we are: absolute fucking fools?
Of course. Any group of intelligent people would have long ago hung those crooks from the nearest lamp post.
caryle group going bamkrupt is just the way the bush crime family will cash out while screwing the shareholders.
When is this coming out on DVD?
The Prisoner? It's available now on Amazon.
The next president we elect must be able to add, subtract, multiply and divide.
Bushboy can't and neither can McBush.
My daughter's latest tattoo.
Number 3.
The not-a-blood relative that I'm tutoring in mth has only 8 tatoos... but 27 piercings.
I have not inquired where they all are.
Why would you tattoo the number 3 on your body?
dave™©
Not really a tattoo, but.
"wrapped up like a douche",
Yep.
Rudy,
I don't accept that the devaluation of the dollar was inevitable. I believe it is a direct result of the current monetary policy of trying to spend ourselves out of a recession by printing mass quantities of money. If they stop this, if they tighten the money supply and raise interest rates, money will become tighter and the dollar will rise.
(If it does not, we are fucked. Continuing this way we are fucked. At least that is worth a shot)
Not really a tattoo, but.
MP
Aaaarrrrgggghhhhh
Put some warnings on that stuff.
"When is this coming out on DVD?
The Prisoner? It's available now on Amazon.
Toonscribe "
I thought you were discussing the other 8 clients?
the drive up the Hudson into Canada and on to montreal is awesome btw. esp if you grew up in a swamp rat shithole like philadelphia.
caryle group going bamkrupt is just the way the bush crime family will cash out while screwing the shareholders.
euphronius
As I understand it, that was NOT the Carlye Group, that was a phony money subsidiary - the "Group" had set up for the purpose of looting gullible investors.
Mount Royal is a great town, btw. i love it.
exactly DWD. some phoney baloney game.
Not really a tattoo, but.
MP
Aaaarrrrgggghhhhh
Put some warnings on that stuff.
JR, kerosene and a match
...well, crap. Now I have to go look...
money will become tighter
Students trying to get the student-loans not subsidized by the government, are finding it more difficult to get them.
We are already there.
Oops. Forgot link on Carlyle group.
http://
www.thirdworldtraveler.co...ourcewatch.html
Mount Royal is a great town, btw. i love it.
euphronius
Had a friend that lived there many, manyyears ago, after coming from Scotland. Some hilarious stories.
(sorry)
And she was blinded by the light
Cut loose like a deuce another runner in the night
Blinded by the light
She got down but she never got tight, but she'll make it alright
http://www.brucespringsteen.net/
...ByTheLight.html
spent half a tank of propane on it.
That would be worth it.
You cook it on a gas grill?
Or a smoker?
As I understand it, that was NOT the Carlye Group, that was a phony money subsidiary - the "Group" had set up for the purpose of looting gullible investors.
Beowulf Schaeffer - Revolution
Beowulf DWD has it correct. Poppy won't lose a dime over this.
The first tattoo she got in August:
http://thumbsnap.com/v/FnljlQ2e.jpg
...well, crap. Now I wish I hadn't...
caryle group going bamkrupt
Not quite. Carlyle Capital Corp. is one of the group's funds, which is going under.
Carlyle Group is still flush, with more than $75 billion in assets under management. And people will still throw money at the well-connected people who run Carlyle Group.
Not really a tattoo, but.
DALE!!!!!
The Intimidator!!!!!!
"Not really a tattoo, but.
MP"
YETI!
i like your daughters rings, terry c
The second one she got in December:
http://thumbsnap.com/v/XX9PyuU8.jpg
That's not the tattoo using the um... bellybutton, is it?
Robert Rubin was one of the best Treasury Sec. the US ever had and he was fortunate in having Bill Clinton as a president, who knew that Rubin knew what he was doing.
We need another Rubin and another Clinton (not necessarily Hillary) in the WH now!
We need someone who can see that the fiscal crisis America is in will not be solved by "deregulation, more tax cuts for the rich and further deficit spending, especially in the area of defense."
The best thing America could do would be to get the financial industry back under sensible oversight and regulation and for the Congress to pull out the stops for a massive public works program to rebuild our infrastructure, implement an energy conservation program and invest in renewable energy.
That would provide jobs, cut our use of oil (and cause it's price to drop) and create a new industry that would further our independence from foreign oil.
the insolvent fund is a small part of carlyle. infuriating, but not nearly the whole pie.
the kind of deficit spending we've been up to for the last eight years was bound to have inflationary consequences. the dodoes in the WH decided that they could inflate their way out of the hole they'd dug for themselves, compounding the problem.
and on top of that, bush has finally found the right combination of sycophants who will say exactly what he wants them to say. they keep redefining inflation so that they can continue to say it's practically zero, and if we had a fucking bank run bernanke still wouldn't admit we're having a recession.
fucking assholes. who cares, we'll have a democrat to clean up eventually, and we can pin the whole pile of shit on him.
terry c your daughter looks like a republican
i like your daughters rings, terry c
euphronius
She LOVES her rings.
Who in the fuck do they think we are: absolute fucking fools?
Yes.
This has been another in the series....
terry c your daughter looks like a republican
euphronius
EXCUSE me?
i agree rudy.
If Bear Sterns and Citibank both go under, what does this mean?
EXCUSE me?
Terry C, No Gravatar | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 10:47 pm | #
joke!!!
That's not the tattoo using the um... bellybutton, is it?
ellroon
First one on the back of the neck - Flowers.
Second one on the arm - a Butterfly
The third on the chest area - a hummingbird with flowers and crystals in the background.
If Bear Sterns and Citibank both go under, what does this mean?
Bear Stearns would be bought out by another big bank. Citi won't go under. It might split itself into many pieces, which would be bought up by other big banks.
Who on this thread owns a home (or rather has a mortgage)? If the absolute worst happened and the value of our homes dropped by 80%, we all lost our jobs and defaulted on those mortgages. Who would be hurt the worst? Would they come and evict us all from our homes?
The Feds desperate attempts to shore up Bear and Stearns and others has nothing to do with the middle class and everything to do with bailing out the ones who have been fucking us for decades.
Another way of stating this is who of us have hundreds of thousands of dollars invested in mortgage backed securities?
If Bear Sterns and Citibank both go under, what does this mean?
Beowulf Schaeffer - Revolution | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 10:48 pm |
they go under.
look, wouldnt it be WORSE if large banks NEVER went under?
what would that mean?
If Bear Sterns and Citibank both go under, what does this mean?
Beowulf Schaeffer
The visible hand of the gummint will float them.
EXCUSE me?
Terry C, No Gravatar
joke!!!
euphronius
I keed, I keed.
She was for Edwards till he dropped out.
Now in Obama's camp.
Terry C, No Gravatar, ah. This is what I get for leaping into the middle of a thread. Very pretty.
fucking assholes. who cares, we'll have a democrat to clean up eventually, and we can pin the whole pile of shit on him.
I look forward to that.
I look forward to stomping a mudhole in the collective republic ass.
If Bear Sterns and Citibank both go under, what does this mean?
the emirates cut back on their caviar budget for a few weeks.
Eventually, there will only be the Biggest Fucking Bank Ever Times Ten and Trust Company.
To paraphrase Mike Nelson:
"I don't care who wins this election...just get Bill Maher off of television."
If Bear Sterns and Citibank both go under, what does this mean?
Beowulf Schaeffer - Revolution
They can't go under, which is why the Fed saved Bear Stearns today.
If they did, there will be a panic in the financial markets. No one will know what banks or brokerage firms are safe.
It will bring stock trading, money lending and many other activities to a grinding halt. It will be horrendous.
As much as I hate to see taxpayers bailing out these moronic capitalists, for the time being, we have to to save ourselves.
The tubes they glow in the dark.
http://susiemadrak.com/2008/03/1...iday-news-dump/
Could I linkwhore here for a moment?
OK, tonight's "everybody get to know each other" game
We all decorate our computer spaces, yes?
What toys, decor, stickers doo you have?
I'll go first.
No stickers, there's a plushy Cthulhu and a Playmobil vulture sitting on the monitor, and Captain Capacitor and his ship on the tower.
Hell, the fact that there is an FDIC anyway, is a marked statement on the private sectors ability to make good on its promises to customers.
If Bear Sterns and Citibank both go under, what does this mean?
Beowulf Schaeffer - Revolution
One fine night, they leave the pool hall,
Headin' for the dance at the Arm'ry!
Libertine men and Scarlet women!
And Rag-time, shameless music
That'll grab your son and your daughter
With the arms of a jungle animal instink!
Mass-staria!
Friends, the idle brain is the devil's playground!
People:
Trouble, oh we got trouble,
Right here in River City!
With a capital "T"
That rhymes with "P"
And that stands for Pool,
wtf. we would all survive if wall street shut down. ffs.
Terry C, No Gravatar, ah. This is what I get for leaping into the middle of a thread. Very pretty.
ellroon
She went to a very good tattoo place.
The artists know what they're doing.
Another way of stating this is who of us have hundreds of thousands of dollars invested in mortgage backed securities?
I take it you don't have a pension coming.
CBC now doing a story on Gitmo, which the US military is saying is not a prison.
Eventually, there will only be the Biggest Fucking Bank Ever Times Ten and Trust Company.
Pottersville!!!
As much as I hate to see taxpayers bailing out these moronic capitalists, for the time being, we have to to save ourselves.
Rudy | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 10:51 pm | #
Ahhh! Welfare for the wealthy. What a moron.
At this point after the mal-administration, and emergency plan to:
Shut down the military except for the coast guard (about the only part of the national military that is engaged in actual defense work)
Take some of the funds that would then not be spent into building a solar, and wind power industry.
Arrest the neo-con war-criminals, or give them the alternate choice of Mandala type reconcilation hearings. If they don't agree, lock them up and brick over their jail cell doors.
Captain Capacitor (a Reboot character)
The tubes they glow in the dark.
WHITE PUNKS ON DOPE!!!!
Sorry, Susie...but what's up with Lambert?
That schtick's getting really tired.
srsly doug, THAT IS THE EXACT EXACT same plan i have. no fucking joke.
Remarkably dumb halfbird colonel says the reason Gitmo is not a prison is because there is no punishment. Umm, okay, this guy we are going to assert has not been to law school. Same dumbass now saying the reason it's not so bad is because they can do their own laundry. "This is communal living."
Who would be hurt the worst? Would they come and evict us all from our homes?
Review the history of the 1930s as a guidepost of what might be happening again.
oh, indefinite detention with torture and no hope of exoneration is not pnishment. hookay.
The difference is that when we give welfare to the wealthy we have to add 9 zeros.
$200,000,000,000
I say, fuck em. Let's see how they do as a greeter at Walmart.
WHITE PUNKS ON DOPE!!!!
billy b
You called
We all decorate our computer spaces, yes?
What toys, decor, stickers doo you have?
No stickers. But I have on my desk some robots that have metallic feet and crystal-ball heads, an original slinky, a yoyo, a container of play-doh, and a bowl of coins from around the world.
Who would be hurt the worst?
Well, I'm guessing the filthy as shit rich ones probably won't be.
To let the big banks go under?
"what would that mean?"
Something I'm not sure we know how to do. To re-boot, restart the US financial system.
Think of the computer at jurrasic park.
"it's Unix, I know what to do"
No you don't. That's just the window manager/window dressing.
WHITE PUNKS ON DOPE!!!!
billy b
You called
JR, kerosene and a match | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 10:55 pm | #
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i will never be the same.
The apologists on this thread are advocating a bailout of the same pricks who gave us the Iraq war.
The fucked up economy is a result (at least in part) of the Iraq war.
I say, Fuck Em!
Let's see how they do as a greeter at Walmart.
Shared Humanity
Like this guy?
http://thumbsnap.com/v/9Csyueot.jpg
To let the big banks go under?
"what would that mean?"
I want my two dollars!
CBC now doing a story on Gitmo, which the US military is saying is not a prison.
...well, of course it isn't. We aren't allowed to treat prisoners that way in this country...
Journalists visit camp five, the punitive camp, and the prisoners begin yelling frantically. The commander hustles everyone out and says that's the first time
he's heard them that upset. The interrogation room is called the "reservation room" and is intially described to the journalists as a lounge or common room.
i will never be the same.
euphronius
Yer a young 'un, aren't ya? 
the us financial system is more than wall street. come on.
my credit union is perfectly healthy.
CBC now doing a story on Gitmo, which the US military is saying is not a prison.
It's not a prison, it's a dungeon.
State's holding against the onslaught - not easy against Hendricks. 69-67
.5 sec left.
Rimshot at the buzzer. How 'bout them DAWGS!
-
jus turned 30 jr.
Just looking for a little karmic balance, Zap. Hillary Clinton is a perfectly decent Democrat who has gotten quite methodically smeared as a racist by the lazy national press, while the really smelly stuff in Chicago (and no, I don't mean Rev. Wright) goes uncovered.
Our financial system is like the cardio-vascular system in a person.
If you allow a blockage it results in cardiac arrest or heart attack. If you allow an open wound to bleed out, it could lead to death.
The US government has to protect our financial system because if it suffers or is inoperative we will all suffer.
There are people who have pensions and life savings at risk in this current crisis and anyone who thinks bailing out big banks or brokerage firms is moronic, obviously has nothing to lose.
A nationwide panic will be as ugly as it was in the 1930s and that needs to be avoided.
Just watched It's Always Sunny in Philly for the first time (via hulu).
But I have on my desk some robots that have metallic feet and crystal-ball heads, an original slinky, a yoyo
My cat would have sooo fucked with those.
Apparently the commander who has been so enlightening is the same guy who did press damage control during Katrina.
Sexy robots! The future is here!!
the us financial system is more than wall street. come on.
There isn't really a "U.S. financial system." There's a global financial system.
my credit union is perfectly healthy.
I hope your account is denominated in euros.
You called.
FUCKING AWESOME!
Looks like Hobama kicked his little Black Hitler pastor to the curb today.
Susie from Philly
Hillary's not a racist, as far as we know.
jus turned 30 jr.
euphronius
That video is older than you.
I find the young are so easily shocked, the little prudes 
Let's see how they do as a greeter at Walmart.
Shared Humanity
You just reminded me of the scene on "Family Guy" where they're talking about Dick Cheney as a WalMart greeter.
"Go fuck yourself....go fuck yourself...."
Hillary's not a racist, as far as we know.
elegant. I was having trouble coming up with anything more eloquent than "fuck you".
Who in the fuck do they think we are: absolute fucking fools? -none
Fools and animals are free ... we have to revolute.
Sexy robots! The future is here!!
Zap Rowsdower | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 10:59 pm | #
stuff like this gives me hope for a better future .
im not kidding. that was epic.
A nationwide panic will be as ugly as it was in the 1930s and that needs to be avoided.
Rudy | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 10:59 pm | #
And I say bailing out fatcats at the Carlyle Group, using taxpayer money that comes from middle class America is bullshit.
Daft Punk is playing at my house.
...while the really smelly stuff in Chicago (and no, I don't mean Rev. Wright) goes uncovered.
Honestly, what's smelly? If we're using a smell test as to who our next nominee should be, neither one of them would pass, by progressive standards. I just don't see it...must be the cult.
My cat would have sooo fucked with those.
Apart from humans, no animals in my house.
Instead we ought to exercise our Democratic rights and string the treasonous bastards up.
I say, Fuck Em!
Shared Humanity
You have no clue what this financial crisis is all about, nor do you have any idea how horrendous a panic could become.
The financial system that gives value to our money and provides the credit for business and home loans is in jeopardy and I only hope that at some point the Congress can allocate the resources necessary to stem the tide and return the markets to solvency.
If not, trust me, there will be hell to pay.
And I say bailing out fatcats at the Carlyle Group, using taxpayer money that comes from middle class America is bullshit.
How about bailing out pension funds? Because lots of people have all their pensions in funds which the fatcats manage.
Honestly, what's smelly? If we're using a smell test as to who our next nominee should be, neither one of them would pass, by progressive standards. I just don't see it...must be the cult.
Zap Rowsdower
There is no perfect candidate.
I just want whoever gets the nomination to BURY McCain in November.
I hope your account is denominated in euros.
theodoric, evolutionary dead e | 03.14.08 - 11:00 pm | #
touche.
Okay, I will play. I have straight ahead of me a genuine didgeridoo . To my left are Pinky and the Brain in their customary places. Above them is my statue of Akela - the White Wolf of Kipling fame. To his right is a small carving of a wood duck - painted appropriately. And it looks like this
http://img.photobucket.com/album...0001/
office.jpg
jus turned 30 jr.
euphronius
No, I'm not in the mood to link to that one.
A nationwide panic will be as ugly as it was in the 1930s and that needs to be avoided.
Rudy | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 10:59 pm | #
the great depression lead to the greatest progressive change and civil rights successes in american history.
I really need to use preview...
No lin to Daft Punk is Playin g In My House, puppethead. Find it yourself.
Okay, I will play. I have straight ahead of me a genuine didgeridoo . To my left are Pinky and the Brain in their customary places. Above them is my statue of Akela - the White Wolf of Kipling fame. To his right is a small carving of a wood duck - painted appropriately. And it looks like this
What's the game?
I have a figurine of Maleficent on my computer at home AND my computer at work.
Apart from humans, no animals in my house.
Homosexual Activist
I bet the arthropods say otherwise.
my credit union sent me some checks to transfer other credit card balances to them @ 7.75 I only have one credit card, so I wrote a couple of small checks to pay down their credit card. Reduced my interest from %10 to 7.75.
FDR shock doctrine baybeee.
What's the game?
Echidne
How is your computer space decorated?
A nationwide panic will be as ugly as it was in the 1930s and that needs to be avoided.
It could be worse than the 1930s because of international connections among markets. And people who can least afford to lose will lose first and most.
the great depression lead to the greatest progressive change and civil rights successes in american history.
euphronius
If it's all the same with you, I would prefer to make progressive changes without having to go through another Great Depression.
The pain should and could be avoided. We need smart, responsible fiscal leadership, which currently does not exist in the Bushboy WH.
What's the game?
Echidne
How is your computer space decorated?
Ah. I have snake embroideries and some snake paperweights in it.
this is my desktop background
http://upload.wikimedia.org/
wiki..._deep_field.jpg
Well, you all can't compete with the "Mr. Plow" episode of the Simpsons.
Have a good night, folks. Love you all!
I have straight ahead of me a genuine didgeridoo . To my left are Pinky and the Brain in their customary places.
My mother has the didgeridoo, but he Pinky and the Brain sound about right.
If it's all the same with you, I would prefer to make progressive changes without having to go through another Great Depression.
The pain should and could be avoided. We need smart, responsible fiscal leadership, which currently does not exist in the Bushboy WH.
Rudy
Word. I just wish I had confidence that SOMEONE knew WTF they were doing.
I bet the arthropods say otherwise.
Good point, but they haven't fucked my with toys in ways that I can see. So far.
Ah. I have snake embroideries and some snake paperweights in it.
Echidne
Why am I unsurprised.
If it's all the same with you, I would prefer to make progressive changes without having to go through another Great Depression.
The pain should and could be avoided. We need smart, responsible fiscal leadership, which currently does not exist in the Bushboy WH.
Rudy | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 11:08 pm | # ---------------
im not sure humans work that way.
look at the bright side. you have a decent chance of living long enough to see better days.
My mother has the didgeridoo, but he Pinky and the Brain sound about right.
JR, kerosene and a match
Yes, but am I pinky or the Brain?
I have a didgeridoo in the living-room.
return the markets to solvency.
What does this mean? The reason the markets are fucked is because banks and other financial creatures abandoned their most basic responsibilities, because they were manned by the likes of Jack Welch and Ken Lay. We have no base from which to rebuild real wealth thanks to financial mumbo-jumbo and massive get-rich-quick schemes. We do not need another bailout, another executive compensation package approved by fellow executives, another perverse wealth transfer to jackasses who have never starved in their lives. We need the motherfucking welfare state.
So far.
Homosexual Activist
Let me have a chat wioth the spiders.
well, my congressman decided yesterday not to run again. that's one democratic seat up for grabs.
I have straight ahead of me a genuine didgeridoo . To my left are Pinky and the Brain in their customary places.
My mother has the didgeridoo, but he Pinky and the Brain sound about right.
JR, kerosene and a match
Pinky and the Brain rawk!
"He'll throw the New York State Penal Code right in my face. And it's six volumes."
We need the motherfucking welfare state.
Yes, but am I pinky or the Brain?
Beowulf Schaeffer
Which one's insane?
the great depression lead to the greatest progressive change and civil rights successes in american history.
euphronius
Um, something else, also. World War II !
Well, you all can't compete with the "Mr. Plow" episode of the Simpsons.
What's that name again?
Another great depression today would be much worse. Many families then had people related or that they knew who farmed, and so, did not starve though they might have had no money.
These days...
"Are you pondering what I'm pondering, Pinky?"
"Yes, Brain....but HOW do we get the chicken to wear the nylons?"
(Actually said on one of the shows)
Here is plushy Cthulhu, waiting to eat you last
Enjoy every sandwich.
*I* miss Warren Z. 
If not, trust me, there will be hell to pay.
Rudy | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 11:04 pm | #
You have not been paying attention!
The pricks in charge have been running this economy and our currency into the ground since 1980. There is going to be hell to pay regardless. You are suggesting that the mother fuckers responsible for these criminal acts should be bailed out and protected from their crimes.
I have an econmics degree from the University of Chicago and an MBA from the same. I am clear how screwed up our nation and economy is and just as clear the bankrupt policies that have caused it. Because of my degrees, I consider myself a success in the difficult environment that has existed over the past 30 years.
I am also clear how we have absolutely screwed the average American. I am pissed and absolutely believe in the power possessed by the American people.
And I still say Fuck Em!
Re: The Spitzer Girl
Her R&B- and pop-tinged songs "What We Want" and "Move Ya Body" are ranked as the two best-selling songs on the AimeStreet.com music sharing Web site.
A spokesman for Aime Street, which uses a demand-price model where users pay more for popular songs, would not confirm how many times Dupre's songs had been downloaded. But he said "Move ya Body," which was uploaded to the site around 2 a.m. (0600 GMT) on Thursday, rose to the highest download price (98 cents) faster than any other song in the site's history.
Dupre's page on the site has been viewed more than 300,000 times and artists get a 70 percent cut of sales. If 1 million copies were sold, as some media outlets have estimated, then she's already made more than $680,000 from her notoriety.
New York radio stations, including the top-rated Z100, have been playing her music on the airwaves. Her profile on the social networking Web site MySpace has had over 7 million page views.
They say Brain's the genius and Pinky's insane.
I think Brain is insane.
Pinky is just stupid (narf!).
(Actually said on one of the shows)
Terry C
I'm not sure ifg "But where are we going to get a pair of Abe Vigoda's pants" is my favourite, or "next time, you put the tutu on the hippopotamus."
it may be springtime here, the tree frogs are drowning out the creek noises.
I did not. (pause) ... I want to be clear: I did some.
Um, something else, also. World War II !
Bjorn, needs a president | 03.14.08 - 11:11 pm | #
WW2 slowed it down and lead to our current fascist gov. we would have been much better off w/o ww2.
Re: The Spitzer Girl
Another one the media are going to shove down our throats till we all gag.
Captain Capacitor, for those who ever saw Reboot.
WW2 slowed it down and lead to our current fascist gov. we would have been much better off w/o ww2.
euphronius
WWII was the main reason women entered the work force in large numbers. But it also brought us the suburbs.
The US government has to protect our financial system because if it suffers or is inoperative we will all suffer.
Yup. A noninterventionist approach is basically what lead to the great depression.
If you let a bunch of major investment banks die, it's going to be more than rich people who suffer. A lot of business, and therefore a lot of jobs, depends on being able to borrow money at a reasonable rate.
If nobody is lending, or they're lending at very high rates, then a lot more people are going to end up in unemployment lines. That's what's starting to happen now.
(Actually said on one of the shows)
Terry C
I'm not sure ifg "But where are we going to get a pair of Abe Vigoda's pants" is my favourite, or "next time, you put the tutu on the hippopotamus."
JR, kerosene and a match
Funny stuff.
Loved the Beatles episode.
I am also clear how we have absolutely screwed the average American. I am pissed and absolutely believe in the power possessed by the American people.
So let's screw them for good so you can get your pound of flesh?
Nice.
WWII also gave us the permanent war economy, for which we could never forgive the Soviets.
Anyone wanna take a shot in the dark at what the C in my name stands for?
WWII was the main reason women entered the work force in large numbers. But it also brought us the suburbs.
puppethead | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 11:
women lost their jobs as soon as war was over.
the suburbs were not a result of ww2.
Another great depression today would be much worse. Many families then had people related or that they knew who farmed, and so, did not starve though they might have had no money.
These days...
Hence my careful selection of my weekend blogger: a farmer from Maine.
WHITE PUNKS ON DOPE!!!!
billy b
You called
JR, kerosene and a mat
Good form, my man.
Fee's the white man's George Clinton.
euph liked fee's exposed butt cheeks...
And one of these fine Playmobil offerings
Hence my careful selection of my weekend blogger: a farmer from Maine.
Echidne | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 11:16 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
Has your economic forecast changed at all, or are you still in the drawn-out recession camp?
WWII also gave us the permanent war economy, for which we could never forgive the Soviets.
k&y, FRANKEN! | 03.14.08 - 11:15 pm | #
Wow. Are you stupid.
Ron Paul supporters are expected to overrun the Repubic caucuses in Missouri, trying to change the rules for the McStain delegates.
women lost their jobs as soon as war was over.
euphronius
Women were FORCED out of their job as soon as the war ended.
Had to get 'em breedin'!
And one of these fine Playmobil offerings
JR, kerosene and a match | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 11:16 pm | #
wtf
Terry C, No Gravatar | 03.14.08 - 11:17 pm
NOT ME.
No gravatar so the namestealing is going to start.
But it also brought us the suburbs.
The suburbs were WWII? We thought that was the 20s. On the Simpsons right now, a boy-group made up of Bart and his friends have a music video that sells militarism and recruitment.
New York radio stations, including the top-rated Z100, have been playing her music on the airwaves. Her profile on the social networking Web site MySpace has had over 7 million page views.
Gilly Gonzylon
Gilly, Didn't I predict this two days ago? (Of course I did. Just taking credit. You can bet against me if you want. . . .)
Had to get 'em breedin'!
Terry C
The last time a bunch of soldiers came home to no jobs there was nearly a Bolshy revolution, they had to get the guys too busy to think about shooting the fat cats.
I am also clear how we have absolutely screwed the average American. I am pissed and absolutely believe in the power possessed by the American people.
And I still say Fuck Em!
So the best course of action is to hope the financial systems fail and then ... what?
The people who will be in any position to do anything about rebuilding will be the people who gamed the system to begin with.
Has your economic forecast changed at all, or are you still in the drawn-out recession camp?
My prediction is that things won't get better until after the election, and then only if a Democrat wins the presidency and takes the economic situation very seriously. But yes, things could collapse much faster, too.
The suburbs were WWII? We thought that was the 20s. On the Simpsons right now, a boy-group made up of Bart and his friends have a music video that sells militarism and recruitment.
k&y, FRANKEN! | 03.14.08 - 11:18 pm | #
great episode.
The refrain to the song is "yvan eht nioj."
But yes, things could collapse much faster, too.
Echidne | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 11:19 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
Collapse in what sense, if you don't mind my asking?
wtf
euphronius
You know, Playmobil. They make jkid's toys.
Including the "vultures gathered around a skeleton in the desert" set.
I have one of the vultures perched on my monitor.
Anyone wanna take a shot in the dark at what the C in my name stands for?
Christina?
i knoe playmobil.
i dont know western noir mobil.
Christina?
Homosexual Activist
I think that was the namestealer.
it hates women, having never met one.
The fact is that our economy and current financial problems have been caused by policies instituted by Raygun in the 1980s.
The "deregulation" mantra has been disastrous for financial markets on several occasions. A deregulated stock market led to the Great Depression of the 1930s. The deregulation of the S&Ls led to a near trillion dollar bailout in the 1980s and now we have the Bushboy driven "deregulation" of banks and brokerage firms debacle staring us in the face.
What America needs is a Constitutional Amendment or some kind of firewall against the inanity and the greed of the Gooper's demand for "deregulation."
Those bankers or brokerage CEOs who risked the solvency of their companies on dubious loans and dubious lending practices should go to jail. But in the meantime they have created a crisis in our financial system which must be fixed.
To say "no bailouts" because crooks and fools have screwed up the system is to sit back and let a disastrous panic destroy the life savings of many Americans and initiate a horrendous Great Depression redux.
women lost their jobs as soon as war was over.
euphronius
Women were FORCED out of their job as soon as the war ended.
Had to get 'em breedin'!
Terry C, No Gravatar
More than that, if you remember, WWI vets camped out in front of the White House to get their promised checks. No jobs, no housing welcomed them home.
They didn't want a repeat of that. So... get women out of the workplace and back into the home. Make the home a really important status symbol and pump up the role of motherhood.
This is what I'm talking about, from wikipedia:
While suburbs had originated far earlier, the suburban population in North America exploded after World War II. Returning veterans wishing to start a settled life moved en masse to the suburbs. Between 1950 and 1956 the resident population of all US suburbs increased by 46%.
They may have been around longer, but it was the post-WWII era that turned them into a centerpiece of American society.
Collapse in what sense, if you don't mind my asking?
Expectations matter a lot here. We sit here talking about recession and lots of people do the same. So everybody starts buying less. That speeds up the changes in the wrong direction (hoarding behavior, refusal to hire people and so on) and it's possible to get to a point where only very strong policies by the government will make a difference.
Including the "vultures gathered around a skeleton in the desert" set.
I like that one.
Women were FORCED out of their job as soon as the war ended.
Yep, bitches were bare-foot and pregnant were they belong. Mop in one hand and you know what in the other.
i dont know western noir mobil.
euphronius
Yeah, they had a Wild West se a few years ago, complete with Black Bart and stuff.
I like Playmobil, they are bent.
Currently they have a Roman Colosseum, complete with lions and Christians. You can get extras of both.
More than that, if you remember, WWI vets camped out in front of the White House to get their promised checks. No jobs, no housing welcomed them home.
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george patton's finest hour. a true merkin hero.
Women were FORCED out of their job as soon as the war ended.
maybe we stopped building 1,000's of airplanes, jeeps, & tanks.
Including the "vultures gathered around a skeleton in the desert" set.
I like that one.
Homosexual Activist | 03.14.08 - 11:22 pm | #
You probably do, faggot.
george patton's finest hour. a true merkin hero.
euphronius
I thought it was Eisenhower and McArthur...
Oops. Sorry for responding to a namestealer.
you know what in the other.
Me |
Those days are gone.
Not coming back.
Thank heaven!
While suburbs had originated far earlier, the suburban population in North America exploded after World War II. Returning veterans wishing to start a settled life moved en masse to the suburbs. Between 1950 and 1956 the resident population of all US suburbs increased by 46%.
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Post hoc ergo propter hoc
If you let a bunch of major investment banks die, it's going to be more than rich people who suffer. A lot of business, and therefore a lot of jobs, depends on being able to borrow money at a reasonable rate.
If nobody is lending, or they're lending at very high rates, then a lot more people are going to end up in unemployment lines. That's what's starting to happen now.
Richard
I don't really disagree except for this. The American Consumer cannot stand to have their income decimated by higher and higher energy costs without it having a tremendously deleterious effect on the economy. It is not just inflation is is different: they are taking money from everything that is NOT necessary for survival. There are a lot of things in our economy that are NOT necessary. If these start starving for business, the economy is going down further and further.
They NEED to get these energy costs under control and start driving them down or there WILL be not only a major recession but a DEPRESSION and they can't seem to UNDERSTAND this.
The reason is that THEY are rich and most people are NOT. When you only make ten bucks an hour. Raising the price of gasoline by fifty cents (as it has gone up here in the last two weeks) is a fucking disaster.
But only if you are NOT fucking insulated and stupid.
They may have been around longer, but it was the post-WWII era that turned them into a centerpiece of American society.
They were linked to the development of the automobile but did become more common in the 1950s.
I thought it was Eisenhower and McArthur...
ellroon | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 11:24 pm | #
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them too. i just fixate on that fucker patton.
It was all three:
Bonus Army:
The marchers were cleared and their camps were destroyed by the 12th Infantry Regiment from Fort Howard, Maryland, and the 3rd Cavalry Regiment under the command of MAJ. George S. Patton from Fort Myer, Virginia, under the overall command of General Douglas MacArthur. The Posse Comitatus Act, prohibiting the U.S. military from being used for general law enforcement purposes in most instances, did not apply to Washington, DC, because it is one of several pieces of federal property under the direct governance of the U.S. Congress (United States Constitution, Article I. Section 8. Clause 17). Dwight D. Eisenhower, as a member of MacArthur's staff, had strong reservations about the operation. Troops carrying rifles with unsheathed bayonets and tear gas were sent into the Bonus Army's camps. President Hoover did not want the army to march across the Anacostia River into the protesters' largest encampment, but Douglas MacArthur felt this was a communist attempt to overthrow the government. Hundreds of veterans were injured, several were killed, including William Hushka and Eric Carlson; a wife of a veteran miscarried, and other casualties were inflicted. The visual image of U.S. armed soldiers confronting poor veterans of the recent Great War set the stage for Veteran relief and eventually the Veterans Administration.
Patton and MacArthur both, and of course each were remembered by their
still-stuck-serving soldiers for similar sentiments that far along.
These days...
last summer the squirrels got our tomatoes.
this summer we get the squirrels.
more tornadoes in atlanta, btw.
Women were FORCED out of their job as soon as the war ended.
maybe we stopped building 1,000's of airplanes, jeeps, & tanks.
1Watt, Hermit | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 11:23 pm | #
Or maybe they just couldn't do the job as well.
Why settle for second rate work when you actually have a talent pool to pick from.
Let's face it people, we put women in the factories because we had noone else. Today we'd just issue green cards to Mexicans and leave the women at home.
this summer we get the squirrels.
more tornadoes in atlanta, btw.
theodoric, evolutionary dead e
squirrel pie!
I've gotten the impression from everything I've read about MacArthur that he had a runaway ego.
I've gotten the impression from everything I've read about MacArthur that he had a runaway ego.
Terry C. Hussein
I think the word is bloated...
So... get women out of the workplace and back into the home. Make the home a really important status symbol and pump up the role of motherhood.
ellroon | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 11:21 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
Granting that there's some truth to this, it sometimes bugs me when people treat the turn towards domesticity after WWII as basically ideological.
Those were horrible, terrifying years. God only knows how we'd do, after an experience like that. Possibly not as well as they did.
no more basketball in georgia tonight.
Here, trollie, you manly man:
John Adams, on HBO?
Will we be treated to some hot patriot sex scenes?
US House of Representatives votes 213-197 to
strip immunity from phone companies for domestic surveillance.
President Bush reportedly has narrowed veto choices to Tangerine, Burnt
Sienna and Aquamarine
What part of Iraqw are you posting from, studly?
Let's face it people, we put women in the factories because we had noone else. [...]
Sad Reality | 03.14.08 - 11:27 pm | #
not in this real world.
Those were horrible, terrifying years. God only knows how we'd do, after an experience like that. Possibly not as well as they did.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint
You are right. I am blovating with hindsight...
They were linked to the development of the automobile but did become more common in the 1950s.
Echidne | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 11:24 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
The Interstate system had a lot to do with it too, IIRC.
But again, if I'd just gotten back from patroling postwar Berlin, I might feel like moving to the suburbs too.
Granting that there's some truth to this, it sometimes bugs me when people treat the turn towards domesticity after WWII as basically ideological.
Those were horrible, terrifying years. God only knows how we'd do, after an experience like that. Possibly not as well as they did.
Phila
Cart/horse thingie.
i think the unions were to blame mostly
Sad Reality | 03.14.08 - 11:27 pm
Dear Mr. Gump, may I subscribe to your newsletter?
G'night, flittermice.
Eat diseased wolverine dick, trollie.
and it's possible to get to a point where only very strong policies by the government will make a difference.
Echidne
I agree. The Fed Reserve is reaching the end of its ability to cut interest rates or do another bailout of an entity like Bear Stearns.
The next steps will have to be taken by the Congress with the WH depraved moron's participation, I'm sorry to say.
Eventually, massive taxpayer funds will have to be poured into the financial system to keep it working.
This does not mean that those bankers or brokerage firms CEOs who acted irresponsibly should not be punished.
But most important is that WE the people realize once and for all (hopefully) that "deregulation" is too risky a policy for our society to ever tolerate again.
i think the unions were to blame mostly
euphronius
Well... unions are responsible for the population explosion.. especially when sanctified by the church...
THAT EPISODE WAS AWESOME!!!
US House of Representatives votes 213-197 to
strip immunity from phone companies for domestic surveillance.
President Bush reportedly has narrowed veto choices to Tangerine, Burnt
Sienna and Aquamarine
k&y, FRANKEN! | 03.14.08 - 11:29 pm | #
But if he vetoes the bill, they still don't have immunity.
But most important is that WE the people realize once and for all (hopefully) that "deregulation" is too risky a policy for our society to ever tolerate again.
Rudy | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 11:32 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
No, deregulation is the right choice. It's reality that's wrong.
Blacks are far more racist than whites, They give 90% of their votes to anyone who's got skin approximately the same stain as their own.
Well... unions are responsible for the population explosion.. especially when sanctified by the church...
ellroon | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 11:32 pm | #
no no i was refering to women losing thier jobs only
But if he vetoes the bill, they still don't have immunity.
Bjorn, needs a president
He will next hold his breath until he turns blue....
But most important is that WE the people realize once and for all (hopefully) that "deregulation" is too risky a policy for our society to ever tolerate again.
Well, haven't we been told how much better the markets are at everything, for the last twenty years at least? Of course they are better at fraud, too, especially when nobody is allowed to keep an eye on them.
Anyone wanna take a shot in the dark at what the C in my name stands for?
Actually, it's my surname, trollie.
Now why don't you see about enlisting?
Eventually, massive taxpayer funds will have to be poured into the financial system to keep it working.
I bought wheelbarrow futures.
if banks get another fucking dime of public money i want voting shares.
So, if you really need to understand long term trends you need to look at the macroscopic picture. ( I am not talking about the currrent recession or the next boom or the following recession.)
This country has been living beyond its means for several decades. It shows up in trade deficits, budget deficits, current accounts deficits, degradation of physical infrastructure (consumption of things like roads and bridges, power plants and electrical grids). We have been able to do this for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that the rest of the world was willing to underwrite our excess.
This little enabling relationship is beginning to break down. Symptoms of this is the decoupling of trade surpluses and deficits with major trade partners, accelerating declines in the value of the dollar, dramatic increases in commodity prices (eg. food and oil) as an increasingly wealthy world bids up prices by increasing consumption with strong currencies.
Just wait if the UAE decides to unpeg their currency.
In response, nearly every effort to patch over this increasingly broken economy adds to our money supply. We are abandoning any attempt to manage inflation and run the risk of becoming the grandest Banana Republic in human history.
Features:
Big Military
Bloated and corrupt bureacracy
Wealthy elite
Impoversihed citizenry
He will next hold his breath until he turns blue....
ellroon | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 11:33 pm | #
Bluer than a pretzel?
Actually, it's my surname, trollie.
Now why don't you see about enlisting?
Terry C - aka Hussein | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 11:34 pm | #
what an unfortunate surname. Did you get teased a lot in high school?
Bluer than a pretzel?
Bjorn, needs a president
Yes please.
no no i was refering to women losing thier jobs only
euphronius | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 11:33 pm | #
There actually was a government effort to send women home.
BTW: the other source of labor in WWII was black southerners escaping north to work in factories.
"Good form, my man."
that tubes vid was teh awesome.
you might dig these:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b...h?
v=b9QpI3wVvek
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=s...feature=related
it is only just that the us ends up as a banana republic.
Comment by pud blocked.
what an unfortunate surname. Did you get teased a lot in high school?
pud
and pud didn't get you any teasing?
And I'll bet you have a puddish personality so a pud by any name would still be a pud...or did you mean
to type putz
The fisa bill still has to go to the senate, where schlockerfella wants the language back in. What happens when give 'em head harry puts immunity back in? Does it go back to the House?
I say take the Bush tax cuts away and more from the rich, and use the money to give tax rebates to lower income folks. Consumer spending by regular people does a hell of lot more for economy than what rich do with it.
Let's put a 90% tax on CEO golden parachutes.
bjo0rn,
conference committee
Bjorn, Atrios linked earlier to this really good explanation of what is happening to the FISA bill.
Those who can't be bothered to go slumming at my sucky blog may still be interested in this mindboggling unbuilt memorial for FDR.
Better late than never!
I bought wheelbarrow futures.
Bjorn, needs a president
I was gong to, but I needed one to buy one.
What America needs is a Constitutional Amendment or some kind of firewall against the inanity and the greed of the Gooper's demand for "deregulation."
____
The only thing that will help America now is revolution, whatever form that can take. An element of revolution behind Obama's popularity, a groundswell of people saying "let's take back our government".
It will take more than talk, though, and the alternative is calamity, so perhaps a plunge into recession will effect some change.
speaking of the tubes, and the internets..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=_...feature=related
Big Military
Bloated and corrupt bureacracy
Wealthy elite
Impoversihed citizenry
Shared Humanity
I don't disagree with your Banana Republic reference for America nor the evils and ills listed above as a result.
We need a government that is responsive to all the people's needs, not just the rich ones. We haven't had that since the Carter Administration, imo.
But in the meantime, US society is drowning in a credit flood and it's necessary to take emergency action to save the patient.
Later we can institute sensible rehab policies with a Democratic Administration and Congress.
s h e e t s
FDR should be on Mount Rushmore.
I say take the Bush tax cuts away and more from the rich, and use the money to give tax rebates to lower income folks. Consumer spending by regular people does a hell of lot more for economy than what rich do with it.
Let's put a 90% tax on CEO golden parachutes.
Richard
One more time. If we do not get the cost of gasoline and diesel fuel and home heating under control and start driving these costs DOWN by whatever means we have at our disposal we will have a depression. It does not matter about tax rebates. People do not have enough money to pay for the fuel and energy they need to live.
(And I don't care if you say it isn't possible because that does not matter. If it is impossible we are truly fucked and you might just as well kiss this country and civil order good bye)
Did you get teased a lot in high school?
Says one who never made it to high school.
Let's put a 90% tax on CEO golden parachutes.
Richard
Brilliant!!!
Well, haven't we been told how much better the markets are at everything, for the last twenty years at least?
There's this excellent article in Dollars & Sense that actually shows how the market isn't just better at fraud, it guarantees it. Chief Financial Officers have to justify responsible actions to the board and the shareholders as those same audiences watch competing, irresponsible companies explode their pockets and purses with other peoples' money.
FDR should be on Mount Rushmore.
Richard
Mount Rushmore is hideous.
Beowulf Schaeffer - Revolution
You're right about Oil prices being ruinous to our economy. The quick fix is a national conservation program initiated out of Washington, DC.
The problem is that Bushboy won't do it because he's too tight with the oil companies and Saudi Arabia.
I'm afraid we can't address the oil problem until we get a new Democratic administration.
Later we can institute sensible rehab policies with a Democratic Administration and Congress.
Rudy | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 11:40 pm | #
I actually appreciate your reasonableness. I often find myself on the far side of radical. It does me no good.
It does me no good.
Shared Humanity
Can't blame you for being irate. The greedheads have brought this upon all of us.
read that, didn't you?
Mount Rushmore is hideous.
Terry C - aka Hussein | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 11:42 pm | #
Your fat, gelatin ridden ass is hideous.
Zevon still rules.
Blacks are far more racist than whites, They give 90% of their votes to anyone who's got skin approximately the same stain as their own.
pud | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 11:33 pm | #
hey, pudly, you are really one stupid white-trash loser. 99% of bleached-white inbred jerks like you vote for their own color, in spite of being buttfucked by fat, perverted republican thieves since 1870. you and the rest of your kind are afraid of everything, especially women, any of whom could kick you up and down the street like an old can. You couldn't be more pathetic.
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