I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
I love my mom. She directed me to look for the Ken Burns special on the National Parks.
I fucking love the Parks.
We need more Parks! More National Parks!
My favorites? Every one of them.
Loved Glacier, Badlands...Yellowstone.
All of them.
The Great Smoky Mountains National Park.
Joshua Tree. N.P.
Can I post now?
The Larch Pine!
The Grand Canyon.
I was in Yellowstone 9 years ago today.
We went down to the Grand Tetons for fireworks, and almost hit an elk on the way back, but...
Hi. all.
Totaled my car today. Chipped tibia right above the tarsal bone. Bruised pecs and sternum from seatbelt and airbags. Took my 81 year old friend to lunch for her birthday. She had some lacs from the airbag and broke her glasses, but seems otherwise okay.
Glad it wasn't worse, although I will miss my ten-year-old Civic.
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Anywho has reverse lookup for numbers in the wild. Google also somewhat, when you put in just the number (xxx) xxx-xxxx.
Bing does an insanely good job with reverse lookup. I typed in my number and up popped a map to my house. It's the ultimate stalker tool.
Badlands National Park!
Custer State Park!
Black Hills National Forest!
(Actually, we stole all these from the Natives . . .)
Van Dyke Parks.
Glad there were no major injuries Soprano. Cars can be replaced.
Soprano, that sucks! Glad the injuries weren't worse, but take care of yourself.
Soprano,
Best healing wishes to you and your friend, and...
I'm sorry!
The mildly unsettling thing is when I say, "I met them on the internet and..." and ask myself, did I just say that? I thought stories that started out with that phrase always ended up bad.
.
Agent Orange
Yeah, that is kind of a conversation stopper till you explain.
I did learn from Uncle Smokes that you pronounce it Es-ka-ton, not Esh-a-ton. I did not know that . . .
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Soprano, sempre libera | 07.05.09 - 1:02 am
ouch.
.
The Larch.
The knee.
I did learn from Uncle Smokes that you pronounce it Es-ka-ton, not Esh-a-ton. I did not know that . . .
WHAT!?!! I've been doing it wrong for years.
Thanks, everyone.
Your good wishes are incredibly comforting.
I'll be following doc's orders and keeping foot elevated as much as possible until appt. with ortho next week. Hoping joint remains stable so I won't need a screw in it!
Does Eminem like M&Ms?
Soprano,
wow, glad the airbags worked their magic.
Living on the floor of Afghanistan's Desert of Death, eating nothing but MREs, my son is at work:
just staying busy.
120 degrees during the day
Dust everywhere
and bad guys.
We are looking for them.
Some success
It would be nice if Washington would send the noncombat support that will give it a chance to work, but so far . . ..
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Yeah but how is "Uncle Smokes" pronounced?
They shoot Civics, don't they?
Soprano, hang in there. I'm glad you're not hooked up to a machine to live, and I do sympathize for your injuries and loss of property.
Thanks, 1 Watt.
Windshield looked like spider web. I shudder to think what would have happened without seatbelts.
Yeah but how is "Uncle Smokes" pronounced?
Throatwarbler Mangrove.
Soprano: sorry to hear of your troubles. Like you said, glad it wasn't worse.
neighbor kid wrecked his pickup last week- 100 stitches in his face...
Yeah but how is "Uncle Smokes" pronounced?
Speedy
@ Soprano
Glad you're still among the living. Be kind to your body.
Quentin: didn't realize your son was over there. We've talked about that friend of mine that was there 2 years ago. I couldn't believe how cheap the support stuff looked then.
The Larch Pine!
Thumper
Thumper's a lumberjack, and he's OK...
Throatwarbler Mangrove.
NTodd
Now I feel stupid.
Now I feel stupid.
You've got your hand on Sarah Palin?
Now I feel stupid.
Speedy
Now you know how I feel.
Now I feel stupid.
You've got your hand on Sarah Palin?
Mark B.--Buzzkiller
Now that's funny! 
"They shoot Civics, don't they?"
http://img11.imageshack.us/
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Goodnight.
Puck finally went out and peed, 2.20 af. (After fireworks.)
Hope everyone has a great today/tomorrow.
Peace.
Jesus, Soprano - too bad, and good for you and your friend.
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The fuckers are just getting started here.
"You've got your hand on Sarah Palin?"
Lieburul hater! If I didn't have my eye on the basket and the ball and wasn't calling an audible before passing for victory, also, you'd be a dead fish in the stream.
You leave Trig alone!
the language, I forgot about that- they were trained in one dialect and sent somewhere completely different and had to start- not exactly from scratch, but it took a while before they were actually communicating with the natives...
"The fuckers are just getting started here."
My sympathies...
Read "Dead of Night", and was expecting a Grateful Dead vid...
So here's one
Trig sucks! There, I said it!
my kids just came in from insuring there are no threat's from armadillos, raccoons, possums, and all other critters of the woods.
G'night Vicki!
Sweet dreams!
shrimplate,
I'm a little worried about my friend, who has epilepsy and is blind and is still on coumadin after just having recovered from a broken kneecap, but they were being extremely careful with her at the hospital and were keeping her until they were sure she could go home. Her husband is 83 and has some ambulation difficultiesm but her son is close and can hekp.
Difficulty is that the cousin who would usually take care of her is at her mother's house--with a broken foot. The cousin and I work in the same office at Vanderbilt. I drove her around last week getting her foot treated. Now I have a break on the opposite side. We're going to look like Tweedledum and Tweedledee at the office on our crutches!
Mr. Soprano raced back from Georgia where he was visiting his ailing brother. Luckily, Older Child and her boyfriend were here and took great care of me.
What a day!
Soon I will take pain meds and go to sleep.
Goddness Soprano, I hope you both are okay! Cars are things, and can be replaced. Friends, not so much.
Or should I say
Sweet National Park dreams!
It's so nice to be with you all again. Here's the Speedette and how she rules me:
http://www.facebook.com/home.php...40&
id=546771453
You might see that my name isn't really Speedy. Oh well. We'll all see each other in court with Sarah Palin anyway.
Peace and love!
Sounds like fucking Beirut c 1980s outside.
Meanie-meanie, tickle a person
Thanks for that! Nice late night tunes.
Soprano: you've got it all going, don't you... it'll get better.
neighbor kid wrecked his pickup last week- 100 stitches in his face...
nick carraway
Seat belt?
"Seat belt?"
The seat belt's fine.
They shoot Civics, don't they?
The fuckers are just getting started here.
Tlazolteotl, parroted
Yeah, but how much noise can that make?
the language, I forgot about that- they were trained in one dialect and sent somewhere completely different
In spring 2002, Shrub pulled the area specialist SF force ( the 5th, from Kentucky, which was doing excellent/excellent work) out of Afghanistan to get them trained up for the preferred war in Iraq. And replaced them with SF forces specialised in language skills etc for Spanish and French African assignments.
Shrub's folly is to blame for the rebirth of the Taliban, the acid-throwing motherfuckers.
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The seat belt's fine.
fred
It was probably under the seat, out of harm's way...
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kaymoutl8rh9rz
Meanie-meanie: must have been... he went across the road, into a culvert, went airborne back across the road and landed upside down in the ditch-- with the hood and the box holding the cab up enough so he wasn't crushed. Heard the EMTS had *all* their equipment on the job.
Basically good kid, but this is his second OWI... hope he's learning something now.
ZOMG Soprano!
They say that "things happen in threes," but in your case it seems they happen in like about *eighteens.* I do hope everything works out for all involved.
"It was probably under the seat, out of harm's way..."
Typical cowardly liebuhrul seatbelt. Can't trust 'em when the fit hits the shan.
"h9rz"
Huh-niners?
Shrub's folly is to blame for the rebirth of the Taliban, the acid-throwing motherfuckers.
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QuentinCompson,
yep, damned shame no one will ship him to a black site prison.
G'night NTodd. Sweet new baby dreams!
Meanie-meanie: must have been... he went across the road, into a culvert, went airborne back across the road and landed upside down in the ditch-- with the hood and the box holding the cab up enough so he wasn't crushed. Heard the EMTS had *all* their equipment on the job.
Basically good kid, but this is his second OWI... hope he's learning something now.
nick carraway
OMG Nick. How old is this kid? He is so fucking lucky. I'll bet his parents are beside themselves.
I love these kinds of useless descriptions of suspects...
"Police described the suspect as an African American male in his 20s or 30s, 5-foot-7 to 6 feet tall and with a medium build. He might have facial hair. He left the area on foot and was wearing a light-colored, short-sleeve shirt, light-colored pants and a dark cap with lettering."
Hey, everyone - he might have facial hair. Or he might not.
"How Sanford spent state money on last year's Argentina trip"
Republican Family Value$$$$...
You wonder how much Senator Craig billed his Great State for each "toe tap"...
That is pretty bad. So basically any black guy of average height under 40. Nice specifics.
Huh-niners?
fred
Just Toddler's little joke. He really IS aware of all internet traditions, you know...
""Police described the suspect as an..."
What angle was his brim?
Was it the 45 degree "Whoa Nelly" look?
25. He's no kid, really. Or at least he shouldn't be.
BY THE WAY...HAPPY NEW YEAR! I LOOVE YOUSE GUYS...
The really bad thing about this guy is that he had worked for the co-op as a custom chemical applicator, drove semi, etc for other farmers and now, with 2 OWIs, he's lost that CDL and an awful lot of his earning potential.
Yeah, at 25 many "kids" are what I like to call "pseudo-adults." Sounds like he needs to grow up or he'll not grow old.
Basically good kid, but this is his second OWI...
Hundred stitches is an owie, all right.
Hopefully he comes out of this with a nice Heidelberg scar, instead of a fright mask, and learns his lesson...
Maybe that's the only way he'll stop what he's doing. It takes a big old hand-slap sometimes to get a person to grow up or change. Sounds like he just got one.
Hope so. Also really hope Sally's daughter doesn't have to learn the hard way...
Ooh, 25, eh? Prognosis not good...
he's lost that CDL and an awful lot of his earning potential.
nick carraway | 07.05.09 - 1:41 am |
Similar story with my nephew. Lost his CDL and DL. Company says he can still move trucks in their yard. Judge agrees and allows him to drive only to and from work.
He screws up, in trouble again. Now in rehab again.
.
"That is pretty bad. So basically any black guy of average height under 40. Nice specifics."
And there's only 184,000 black males between the ages of 20 and 40 in the DC metro area. Really narrows that down for people.
But, he was wearing a light-colored tshirt.
But, he was wearing a light-colored tshirt.
He'll never take it off so that's cool.
Hope so. Also really hope Sally's daughter doesn't have to learn the hard way...
nick carraway
Problem is, substance abusers almost never learn any other way. I speak from personal experience. You can warn 'em about the approaching cliff edge till you're hoarse, but juicers and druggies seem to have to walk off it themselves to get the idea. For some, there are jagged rocks at the bottom. For others, a pile of matresses, or maybe just a convenient tree branch to grab. (In my case, it was mattresses, but the fall itself scared the holy shit out of me...)
His name is probably Mohammed.
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Hello, again!
That was an interesting maneuver.
I was on the sofa, leg propped up on pillows, and decided to get up to go the bathroom before the situation became desperate. Turns out the sofa is way too low for me to get up on the crutches without help. So I phoned Mr. Soprano (upstairs, on his cell), and we inched my rear end onto a kitchen chair, which was high enough for me to get up on the crutches, with a little push from behind.
So, now I've moved to the armchair--pillows, laptop, med bottle, class of seltzer, blanket, and all, because it is higher.
I really hated waking Mr. Soprano after he drove all the way back from Georgia (and has to go to the tow-yard at the crack of dawn to empty what's left of my car), but he didn't complain. I'm a very lucky woman to have him. Thirty years and counting.
Nick, I think she's going to have to.
No more rehabs, and she has to move out tomorrow.
Here's another beauty. Two incidents, two suspects, same article...
"The unknown suspect was described by the victims as a black male wearing a white T-shirt with a design on the front, as well as a zip-up black, hooded sweatshirt and blue jeans."
then...
"The [other] unknown suspect was described as a white male with no facial hair. He was wearing a dark-colored baseball hat at the time of the robbery."
Cops will be catching those two any moment now with descriptions like that...
Sally, did you find her?
Yeah, I got sober because I drank about 10 shots of tequila one night after drinking about 6 Crown and waters, got in my car to drive 10 miles home, and woke up out of a black out being booked for DUI. I had run off the road, and thank God, hit a tree, totaling my car. Not a scratch on me.
I was sent to AA as part of my sentence, and fortunately, that slap had been hard enough and I quit the drugs and alcohol. If I hadn't I would have been dead within a short amount of time. I could tell some stories I shouldn't have lived through . . .
Sallyh,
I'm so sorry to hear that.
Hope you are okay, as far as is possible.
{{{{{{{{Sallyh}}}}}}}}
Nick, not yet.
She's been gone 11 hours. She called me at 4 to say she was being bothered by the SO and was turning her phone off. She said she was with her best friend, and the best friend hasn't seen her in a week.
is there hope?
http://www.reuters.com/article/
s...E5614DL20090702
Oh Sallyh. Good for you for putting your foot down, but it doesn't help the worrying, does it?
My thoughts go out to you and to her. Is the hubby up with you?
Integral ♠ Lit | 07.05.09 - 1:58 am
That is grueling. But I'm so happy you survived, didn't hurt anyone else, and have quit the drugs and alcohol.
You are such an interesting person. Your posts are always worth the time to read them. I would hate never to have "met" you!
Oh my...
I think Sarah has sexual confidence, maternal authority and she combines male and female qualities like glamour and she can shoot a gun and hit the target. she has an America is great attitude, a happy marriage and she is a threat to many far left dems who are lacking in any of these qualities.
Integral Lit, he's here and went to our bedroom to be quietly devastated.
Thanks Soprano. What a nice thing to say! I feel really fortunate to have stumbled upon you fabulous folks. I feel like I already know some of you so well.
It was 27 years ago that it all happened - a lifetime ago really. But I do remember it as if it were yesterday in some ways.
I've thought about writing about it, but have never sat down and begun.
Nick, I love her more than life itself, but I can't do this anymore. I don't think she's salvageable.
lighten up Frances... failing that, go shoot yourself out of a cannon, okay?
Noo... thank *you*.
Dang, Soprano. Glad you're (relatively) ok. I was hoping I would see you at the Flying Saucer tomorrow...
I had a pretty good day today, actually, a really good day.
Also, picture of my sexy boyfriend on my homepage.
Eat it Shoe, I know you lurk here, fukker.
Soprano, very sorry to hear of your injuries. I hope you feel better quickly.
Not dead of night here yet. Just got home, neighborhood still blowing things off. Got a great pic of quail's nest with about 8 eggs.
I owned a liquor store for 13+ yrs. for about 10% of my customers, there was a problem. I've seen and heard a hell of a lot of stories. I never get into a car after drinking, and rarely drink enough in a sitting to be drunk. I can drink a 12 pack in a day, but that's usually 10 hours or so.
Sallyh. That's how my father handled my using. I don't think we had anything of a real conversation for about 6 years - till I got sober. On my one-year anniversary, I asked him what he thought, and he simply said, "I think you'd be dead if you hadn't stopped."
It's one of those things you have to turn over, and you sound really on the way to doing that. I know it's a cliche, but one day at a time in letting her go - and tonight I imagine it's more like one minute at a time.
Nick, I love her more than life itself, but I can't do this anymore. I don't think she's salvageable.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
That's how my sister feels about her son. She's 65 retired, 38 y.o. son living with her (or in and out of rehab). It seems either he ends up in prison or dead.
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Sally: I don't think you ought to look at it quite that way-- she's gotten past what you can do for her, maybe, but that doesn't mean she *can't* pull herself together at some point. It does seem that in order to save yourself, Monsieur and Maddy, that you're going to have to let her go... at least for a while.
I wish this was more helpful than it probably is...
Oh Sallyh. Good for you for putting your foot down, but it doesn't help the worrying, does it?
The worry never really goes away, but we learn to cope with it in ways that are less destructive to ourselves. Self-defense is necessary. I used to think that was not necessarily the case until Younger Child began to have some real problems with her brain chemistry that caused aggression and other problem behaviors, although, thank goodness, not with substances. (She has autism and developmental delays.) Mr. Soprano and I had to learn to take care of ourselves in order to be any good to her -- and also to realize that whatever happened, we were not required by love or obligation to kill ourselves. That was difficult, but necessary, and it helped everyone when we got to that point.
We still worry, but in a better way, if that makes any sense.
{{{Soprano}}}}
threat to many far left dems who are lacking in any of these qualities.
Frances Porretto
and your MOS was?
I was hoping I would see you at the Flying Saucer tomorrow...
Willendorf Venus
Thanks, WV. I'd love to see you, too, but that is Beyond the Valley of Highly Unlikely.
Sallyh, and everyone, thanks again for the good wishes. You all are wonderful.
In the past, I would have been crying my heart out by now. Now I'm like numb.
Mr. Soprano and I had to learn to take care of ourselves in order to be any good to her
I think that nails it, Soprano. And as parents it's so hard to do sometimes, isn't it?
And 1Watt, it amazes me how some can drink and some can't. I really believe it's brain chemistry to a great extent. I happened to get the damn gene, and most people didn't.
Although at times I think it would be nice to have a glass of wine with friends (or smoke a joint), I don't regret that I can't drink or imbibe . . . Life's too good for me to risk it.
Sallyh, do you think you can doze off on the sofa or something? I know you won't be able to sleep till you know she's okay, but you may be in for a long day tomorrow dealing with all this. Try to get some rest tonight?
Life's too good for me to risk it.
Another way of saying something that I wish someone had told me when I was 13 instead of when I was nearly 40:
The greatest cause of failure and unhappiness is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.
'numb' is probably good right now... or maybe. I'll stay up with you for a while, if that helps...
damn, can't take a toke?
wish I could, just don't have a source.
So sorry to hear things are going badly for your daughter, Sallyh. There is hope, you know, but it is all up to her.
Although Integral is right...
Me, too.
Won't be able to sleep until the pain meds kick in, so this is a better place to be than any other I can think of at the moment!
WATB alert...
"To the extent several websites, most notably liberal Alaska blogger Shannyn Moore, are now claiming as “fact” that Governor Palin resigned because she is “under federal investigation” for embezzlement or other criminal wrongdoing, we will be exploring legal options this week to address such defamation. This is to provide notice to Ms. Moore, and those who re-publish the defamation, such as Huffington Post, MSNBC, the New York Times and The Washington Post, that the Palins will not allow them to propagate defamatory material without answering to this in a court of law."
Classic, coming from a slandering "pals around with terrorists" asshole like Palin...
Integral Lit, I'm going to see if I can get some sleep. Monsieur is the insomniac.
The greatest cause of failure and unhappiness is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.
Soprano, sempre libera
That is going in my "Quotes" file. What a great saying - I suffer from immediate gratification syndrome in many areas, and this will help immensely as a reminder.
Gracias!!!!
1Watt, nope. 
I probably did a lifetime's worth in about 6 years anyway. Dated a dealer for about 3 so had a pretty constant source for anything I wanted.
I'll stay up with you for a while, if that helps...
Nick, you are such a sweet guy.
It's past 2 AM here. I gotta get some sleep.
Good night all!
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I'm getting really tired, but still waiting for the ex and 16 YO to get home from the lake so I'll be up for a while longer.
There's that worrying thing . . .
I have to get up and make a 9 hour drive tomorrow. Ugh.
Still have to pack and get the cooler ready and pick up the house.
Ugh.
And I didn't get all my papers graded. I know what I'll be doing once I get down there . . .
Night Agent Orange
{{{Sallyh}}}
Hang in there girl.
G'night Agent O. Sorry my dropping the f-bomb bugged you .
Sweet firecracker dreams!
I've never done anything other than mj. Been around a lot of other stuff, just never felt the need.
wOOt: now that is a noble profile...
Integral: that's just the internet persona-- I'm a cold-blooded jerk in real life....
oh fuck picking up the house Integral Lit. Just pack your cooler and book on out.
9 hours? Yow, you do like the road trip.
Erin, you'd think you knew me really well. Well the dishes are already done, I can take the garbage out, and the ex is coming by to feed the cats and bird and keeping the dog.
No one should really care if it is messy, should they? It will be last on the list so might slide by . . .
No one should really care if it is messy, should they?
Exactly.
I was just reading a bit of the last thread...Uncle Smokes rocks, doesn't he. I've also had the pleasure of meeting him.
Nick, I don't believe that for a minute.
My family has been in Oklahoma the whole time I've lived in SoDak, so we've made that trip usually twice a year for 20+ years.
I love road trips. I'd drive anywhere if I had the time and a reason!
Shit, most nights when I go out I go to a little place I like that's about an hour and a half drive.
Erin, he is a hoot! We laughed the whole time we were there. He gave a great CD he made of the last Eschacon, which was way cool. He really captured the essence of this blog on it.
I'm hoping since he's just a short hour away that we can meet fairly regularly at DL. We both liked it a lot Friday night.
I've also had the pleasure of meeting him.
ErinPDX
He sent me his new CD! I have only met Soprano and Jeffraham for realz, but will meet a few more Atriots tomorrow, in Nashville.
Well the travelers are home, so I'm off to bed. See you wonderful people tomorrow!
Sweet dreams all.
'night Integral...
G'night, all.
Meds are making me very sleepy.
Be well.
Have a safe trip tomorrow, IL!
WV, please give my regards to everyone tomorrow.
but will meet a few more Atriots tomorrow, in Nashville.
fun!
i'm heading to bed soon too but will pop by again to check on you sallyh
watching Black Hawk down, here for another 45.
(looks in)
looks out.
(me too, one last time )
BTW, if you're still up Sallyh, I'll be sending a little good energy your and your fam's way while I drift off.
(shakes it all about)
That's what it's all about.
rabbits foosies aren't that lucky for rabbits.
there's worse things the rabbit could lose...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/1wa...mit/3551032484/
watership down?
1watt: not just down, but overundersideways too...
well, hope things hang together for a few more hours, I'm out, I guess...
Sheesh, I finally get out from under 4+ hours of more or less constant thunder/lightning/rain/hail and everybody's gone to damn bed?
pooh.
sounds like it was an interesting night on many other fronts as well though. I had a tomato plant fall over but this does not seem like the time to whine about the matter....
I missed all of the rain promised for today. small chance for a shower tomorrow.
durn thing was one of them in a cage too. Tomato cages are not always as sturdy as one might expect, given what one has to pay for them. Chances are it will be okay once stood up again, and I will brace it with a metal fence stake. Sucker grew just huge extremely fast, presented too much sail area I guess.
heya 1watt! Where are you at, you probably told me before but I ferget. I thought we were gonna miss the last popup leg of this front but it dropped a bit more southerly than I had been expecting.
they still have a flood warning out for here but that is not a concern for me, we are on S. Cemetery Hill. Not to be confused with the one in Gettysburg.
had an 80 mph wind go through last month. tomatoes got bent to the extreme. Replanted, about 2' tall now with a single bloom on ea.
so barry from alaska took palin down?
'Zat true, notaboomer?
So. C. Mo, 3 counties above the AR. border. 60 miles E of Springfield.
1watt, I don't think it's broken, just bent. A couple of years ago I would be all panicky and Assume The Worst, but I have seen 'maters come through remarkable abuse from the weather gods.
[waves] heya notaboomer...not sure Barry is taking credit for Ms. Mooseburger's gubanatorial poop-out, but then again the way she's throwing around threats of lawsuits at anybody who ever looked at her crosseyed I would probably be hesitant too.
We're all just so lib and meeeen and all, going around all crosseyed all the time, I don't know how anybody could be expected to stand up to such abuse, do you?
Ah, thanks 1watt, I got ya located now. Springfield is just NE of Wilson's Creek National Battlefield, which I cover in news related stuff. And have actually been to.
Scene of the first death of a Union general in the Civil War. Gen. Nathaniel Lyon, for whom I have such admiration that my senior cat is named in his honor.
Of course he was an idiot, totally incompetent to command an army in battle. (Gen. Lyon I mean, not my cat.)
But such things happened often in the early days of the War; hell, he had been a captain three months earlier. But he was ferocious in intent if not so good in execution; he threw the Confederate-sympathizing governor out of the state and held all of Missouri for the Union. Things would have been much different if this had not occurred....
Wright county is still held by the confederacy. At least igit repugs.
got a link to the battle of Mtn.Grove?
o dear, I got off on a CW tirade didn't I? Bored everyone into oblivion. Apologies to all, deepest regrets &ct. Will shut up now.
(although I blame Vicki for her comments upthread about the National Parks. We do not need more National Parks until we can provide proper funding and staffing for the ones we already have. Which are shamefully neglected and have been for decades, just taken for granted. The wilderness parks can live with a great deal of neglect, needing only to be protected from abuse, but the Historical parks really need upkeep and have not been getting it. Yes I am ranting again but can justify it on the grounds that evidently nobody is currently here to be bored by my blather.)
the CW is not boring, it's not even past.
- William Faulkner (paraphrased)
Battle of Mountain Grove? Damn 1watt, I am mortified to admit I have never heard the name, and I know some pretty damn obscure battles. Let me go grab a book, brb.
Let's call the bully's bluff...
(staggerby on way to bed)
Xan, I totally agree and would like to talk about this sometime in the futu (clunk)
okay, my head didn't really pitch into the keyboard...
but now for real.
o dear, I got off on a CW tirade didn't I?
watching Black Hawk down, involved.
"Other things happened this day [March 9, 1862]: skirmishing near Nashville on the Granny White Pike; at Big Creek and Mountain Grove, Mo, and at Sangster's Station, VA."
--The Civil War Day by Day, E. B. Long and Barbara Long.
That is the sum total of detail I can find on the disturbance 1watt. You know more about it? Tell all, holding back no detail however slight.
Heya rootles! What you doin' up at this ungodly hour? You got that Faulkner quote pretty close to right. Although this is the time of year when everybody in my professional circles is quoting the Gettysburg one:
""For every Southern boy fourteen years old, not once but whenever he
wants it, there is the instant when it's still not yet two o'clock on
that July afternoon in 1863, the brigades are in position behind the
rail fence, the guns are laid and ready in the woods and the furled
flags are already loosened to break out and Pickett himself with his
long oiled ringlets and his hat in one hand probably and his sword in
the other looking up the hill waiting for Longstreet to give the word
and it's all in the balance, it hasn't happened yet..."
I hate to admit that I know nothing, just on the town square, there's monuments for all of the wars. I live out in the woods, not involved anything that has to do with people. I've just about reached my limit on peace & quiet. Figure to sell out & move to a small city middle of next year.
[waves fondly at nick's departing, and slightly dented, form]. Any time, dear sir, any time you like.
I hear ya 1watt; I may be even more "peace and quiet" ridden than you are and would move in a NY minute to, well, downtown NYC should the financing present itself.
Not that there is any likelihood of that happening, mind you. But I trust it explains why I sometimes go off on long diatribes in these late night hours. It's for lack of anybody else to talk to, bar the SO who has already heard everything I have to say quite a few times over.
xan - i have no idea why i am up, but i am.
the south is full of monuments to cw battles. I was very happy when we saw obama speak here during the primaries to notice that the speakers platform obscured the monument to the confederate soldiers who "fought in defense of our constitutionally guaranteed states rights" according to the plaque put up in the early 1900s during the reign of Klan.
When MoDo has someone worthy of ridicule to ridicule, she's not so bad:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/0...?_r=1&th&
emc=th
The "monumentation era", circa 1880s-1910s or so, produced many "war" monuments in towns which had never had a battle with hundreds of miles. They did however send their male residents off to fight elsewhere and, as the survivors grew older, they wanted to have the events remembered.
Most of said monuments are now in the process of falling apart and in desperate need of repair. Except for the ones which have been hit by cars and knocked ass over teakettle, thereby removing the problem.
i think many of the ones in southern towns were there to remind people that the confederates were still in charge.
Frank Rich: Bernie Madoff Is No John Dillinger.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/0....html?th&
emc=th
Living in a town under segregation, as I did as young child, was all one had to do to know that The Confederates, though having lost, were still in charge. The insidious, icy politesse of the way my father's mother referred to "nigras" made my blood run cold. I didn't know why the way she treated African-Americans creeped me out -- I just knew that it did.
Rootless, one of the reasons I carry on my magazine is that, as you quoted earlier, the Civil War "is not over" by any means. But in multiple senses of the term.
The Monumentation Era served a number of purposes for different people in different areas who had been on different sides of the conflict. The battle is always being fought for the definition in the public mind of the meaning of events, not for the details of what actually happened.
The recent (and ongoing) campaign to name things after Ronald Reagan for instance bears a very close track to the effort of that earlier period to name something, anything, in every single state, after Jefferson Davis. There are Jefferson Davis highways, parks, whatever the hell, in states that didn't even exist during the Civil War.
But if you can do that, you can own the notion that "they were all honorable men" and should be honored for the virtue of Reconciliation, and let the details get utterly obscured. This I do not consider a Good Thing.
Name:
Anonymous
when I was about 6, an African-Canadian family moved in about 3 houses from ours.
We askked our parents if we could play with their kids and they responded "Why shouldn't you?"
I never heard them say a single bad word about that family, even though the father made a living running poker games in his living room and had tribal scars on his face - he was from Nigeria.
and my parents are supposed to be the Nazis.
plantsman, your experience is one consequence of that "they were all honorable men" attitude towards the War. When "your side" just lost because the other side had bigger population, more industry, no sense of honor etc, well then those were the reasons you lost, not because you were fighting for something that was wrong. Or need to admit you were wrong, or change your outlook on things or treatment of other people.
The "Lost Cause" devotees--who started their campaign practically before the last cannon cooled at Appomattox--were the filthiest bunch of self-serving liars ever to warp history and reality in this country. The neocons of their day as it were. One reason why I do not wish to have the neocons of our present era get away with the same thing re: Iraq etc.
plantsman, mad google skillz | Homepage | 07.05.09 - 4:16 am | #
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Racism is really a creepy phenomenon.
I also never heard my parents use any type of deragatory expression for any type of group of people - black, Chinese or Indian, Jewish, etc.
not once.
mimi, you keep trying to make the Nazis seem good in comparison to other things.
It's not gonna work.
found this, can't imagine why they're so proud of it:
MARCH 9, 1862.—Skirmish at Mountain Grove, Mo.
Report of Capt. Josephus G. Rich, Phelps1 Missouri Infantry.
Marshfield, Mo., March 12, 1862.
Dear Sir: I have just come in last evening from a scout. 1 learned that a party of rebels was on Fox Creek, some 10 or 15 miles from the Mountain Store. I started from here with Lieutenant Flint and 30 men; was re-enforced at Lick Skillet with some 30 Home Guards. Formed a junction on the head of Clark's Creek, at Todd's, with some 50 cavalry from Lebanon. Marched from there to the Mountain Grove Seminary. There we came on the rebels on Sunday, the 9th. The victory was complete. There was some 35 or 40 in number. We killed some 13, wounded 7, and took the balance prisoners. Among the prisoners were Colonel Campbell and Captain Holt. The captain was badly wounded. There was but one or two escaped that we know of. Not a man of us was hurt.
The bearer is waiting and I cannot give particulars. You will soon learn them. We returned last evening late and heard of your victory over Price, but was sorry to learn of so many of our men being lost. We heard that 37 of our men were lost.
Very respectfully, your obedient servant,
J. G. EICH,
Captain Co. B, Phelps1 Regiment Missouri Volunteers,
Commanding Post at Marshfield, Mo. Colonel Phelps.
I'm living on fox Creek which I find is appropriately named.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/1wa...57617282616393/
how can you have "honour" if you treat people, any people, badly?
that is not honourable in the least.
that's why I hate these tv shows and movies that try to show that the South was gentille - like North & South or Gone with the Wind.
MoDo is juicy and fun today, but Frank Rich is quite on point:
Barney Frank seems to understand the political dynamic better than the White House. He told bankers back in February, “People really hate you, and they’re starting to hate us because we’re hanging out with you.” If the administration wants to be reminded of how quickly today’s already sour mood can turn rancid, Michael Mann’s haunting “Public Enemies” could not be a more apt refresher course. The casting alone tells you where the audience’s sympathies will lie: Dillinger is played by America’s reigning male sweetheart, Johnny Depp, while his G-man pursuer, Melvin Purvis, is in the hands of the thorny Christian Bale.
wtf are you talking about?
I'm trying to show that my parents WEREN'T Nazis, dimwit!!!
what an idiot you are!
wow, do you have to be stupid to think something like that!
wow, there's a major problem in your logic center, probably from the stroke!
Of course I don't think the Nazis aren't so bad!
OH.MY.GOD! what an idiot!
ok time to go
I'm going to be nice and assume you weren't born that stupid!
My mother is French and her brother was killed because he was in the Resistance
Of course she's no Nazi!
My God, man, are you ever a stupid idiot!
I have to go call someone and tell them about this. It's too stupid not to be shared!
OH.MY.GOD!
1watt, thank you very much for that report (had to be out of the Official Records, no? I don't have the CD any more and it's so old I don't know if it would work on this machine anyway.)
That's the kind of war it was in the West and Trans-Mississippi though. Very much like Iraq/Afghanistan now, except that both sides at least had some sort of formal military structure.
Guerilla, small-company, scout and track and find and send out a unit to deal with them; sometimes win, sometimes lose, sometimes get bad directions from a local who doesn't like you and miss the other guy completely.
People in the East had the silly notion that all you had to do was capture the other guy's capital, Richmond or Washington, and the war was over. Nobody in the West thought that way.
I'm talking about your repeated efforts at rehabilitating the images of Nazis and Prussians -- which several here have noticed. You recently claimed you could have Israeli citizenship, but I wouldn't pursue that avenue were I you.
I really doubt your odd take on the Holocaust would prove popular in Israel.
here's linkie Xan
http://books.google.com/books?pg...YCo&
output=text
meant to include it in the above.
plantsman, I really wish there were more folks on overnight so you would have somebody to talk to other than the psycho troll.
Any advice on steps I can take to restore my tomato plant that blew over in the storm tonight? Other than setting its cage upright and reinforcing it with a metal fence stake? It's really big and has a number of babies growing already, if there is anything else that would help it I need to know.
plantsman, your father is the Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan!
Hell, plantsman, since YOU grew up during segregation in the South, YOU are the Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan!
Howo many African-Americans have YOU lynched?
Did you and your parents beat the black "help" or did you whip them?
Staking the cage with a stout metal fence stake or two would seem to be in order -- just try not to smash the tomato plant as you drive in the stake(s). As an annual, a tomato plant can endure untold abuse and keep growing, only branches that are clearly broken and fruit clearly smashed need be removed.
Yup, 1watt, that's the OR: the Official Records of the War of the Rebellion. Fascinating collection of documents, takes up 147 books in paper form. Which nobody buys any more since it was put on CD (now DVD) about 12 years ago.
One other "Mountan Grove" reference in that page you cited, from a couple weeks later:
"Had it not been for the causes set forth above I am satisfied, in a swamp as it was where no human being would go to fight, it would have been a complete rout. As it was I regard it as a signal victory, and feel confident Southern Missouri is now cleared of the traitors. The Union prisoners we released were taken within a few miles of Holla—one of them within 7. I am very strongly impressed with the importance of keeping a force here for the time being to watch the tsontb. At least I shall be compelled to do so at present to provide for the sick and wounded, who cannot be moved. A squad of cavalry has :been to Mountain Grove, 25 miles southwest, and the country is cer- 'tainljr clear of rebels west. Yet if I get no counter orders I will send :a scotrt in that direction Monday."
(if nothing else this shows the shortcomings of recording data out of old books via scanning. Especially considering that OCR was in the Dark Ages at the time this was orignally done.)
Killfiling m*m* is really the best revenge -- no need to see its inane prattling and self-justification.
only branches that are clearly broken and fruit clearly smashed need be removed.
plantsman, mad google skillz
Thanks, plantsman. That's what I was looking for. I haven't been out to examine the poor creature as the storm continued on well into the night so I don't know if there are any broken stems or not.
I tend to fail on the side of wishful thinking, leaving things that are broken but not completely sheared off in hopes that perhaps they will somehow heal.
Having some great fun tonight at the expense of the Palin Bots on Twitter, again.
@bgfam777 wrote: elouqence from the heart not canned rhetoric from a teleprompter #Palin5:12 PM Jul 3rd from web
Hey genius, what do you call this? http://bit.ly/U09kU
Morning peeps.
Ruth had another accident yesterday. I hope she's okay and will be able to get to Bliss.
Get my gmail, Barry?
Heya QL, I saw Ruth was on earlier talking about her (latest) accident. Strangely enough there were several other people undergoing similar experiences. I am glad I did not get into the car yesterday, there seems to be a hex on Atriots. (shiver.)
suddenly the wingnuts hate teleprompters. bizarre. and think obama is unable to speak without one. more bizarre.
Healing in plants is a slow process -- and best encouraged by expert pruning, which very few of us can manage. In general: the fewest, cleanest cuts the better -- ragged breaks invite infection, and healing infection in plants is dicey at best.
Oh, dear! What now?
plantsman, that "expert pruning" thing is another shortcoming of mine. I know the theory of pluck-out-the-suckers, I just don't know how to identify them from "good" vines I guess.
However I shall resolve to be ruthless with things which are broken. thanks, again.
Of course, if a car is already totaled and it gets hit again, I'd suspect the Universe is encouraging the owner to get rid of the car.
no wonder plantsman got hounded out of West Berlin!
it all makes sense now!
Of course, if a car is already totaled and it gets hit again, I'd suspect the Universe is encouraging the owner to get rid of the car.
plantsman,
IIRC she was in the rental car.
hmmm. since it only happens to Ruth when she is stationary, I encourage her to keep moving!
So Barry, are you quaking in your boots, or other footwear of choice, at the threat from the Palin people to go after "those unspeakably cruel & abusive & libelous liberal bloggers" with legal action?
Or are you having to reach for additional tissues to mop up the results of extensive snorting in derision?
When I was trying to become an expert pruner as a gardener, the parts of plants that "needed" to be removed would be highlighted by electric-blue auras, for a time. Of course, I was also using a lot of drugs back then.
what grounds could palin have?
Plantsman, thanks for the apology, I did get you email.
Or are you having to reach for additional tissues to mop up the results of extensive snorting in derision?
Xan
Just chatting with the threatened blogger now I keep saying we post the "rumor" on every liberal blog there is and let Sarah sue us all.
Palin would probably just pick one to sue as an example, but can you imagine the fundraising we could do for blogger's rights?
Obama is so obviously trying to play Putin and Medvedev against each other. He is an idiot for even trying as it shows what an amateur he is in foreign affairs.
You don't suck up to the good cop in a good cop/bad cop routine and think you're going to drive a wedge between them.
Hasn't he watched any cop shows?
I didn't get hounded out of West Berlin.
It was fucking colder than hell, a married British ex-soldier with a German wife I worked with was coming on to me in the Greenhouse at work like gangbusters (seeking a way out of Berlin as he had sought a way out of a dreary life in England, I suspected) and PanAm had a sale.
plantsman got hounded out of West Berlin, probably because he called all people there, regardless of nationality, "Nazis"
parts of plants that "needed" to be removed would be highlighted by electric-blue auras, for a time. Of course, I was also using a lot of drugs back then.
plantsman, mad google skillz
Have you tried sensing this again, or would you try it now? Whatever influence chemicals may have had, I always thought that the "aura" business was not anything mystical, just a cumulative effect of knowlege which might be stored in the subconcious. Or to phrase it another way, the result of observation of subtle changes not immediately apparent to the eye.
Which is not to say the electric-blue aspect of the phenomena wouldn't be extremely kewl.
Isn't it weird how trolls make shit up and ALWAYS add laughing emoticons?
they know nobody else is laughing
Back to my twitter escapades tonight, Sarah's biggest skirt sniffer is a radio guy named Eddie Burke.
Eddie sent out this tweet tonight after the Wasilla Teabaggers Conclave:
"any1 noticed that ugly socialist women r the bigest Palin Haters? Why r cons women beter looking than Lib women? #sgp #tcot #palin #gop #c4p" sent by @talkradiohost about 22 hours ago from web
Well, I just had to send him this pic I took of a gooper lusting after some hot conservative camel toe. http://bit.ly/mLkKF
Isn't it weird how trolls make shit up and ALWAYS add laughing emoticons?
plantsman,
wouldn't know, killfiled it long ago.
I'm out
It was wonderful, Xan -- and beyond that, it was right. I didn't tell anyone at the time, because I knew how nuts it sounded, but I thought it was the coolest thing EVER.
Barry, I am glad to hear nobody is backing down in the face of Palin's threats.
Besides the fundraising benefits (which might not be needed if local atty's and/or the EFF got involved) this could genuinely create some breakthrough case law.
Although assuming all the bloggers in question did proper attribution, up to at least NYT/WaPo "anonymous sources" level, there wouldn't be anything to sue them for in the first place. IMHO and IANAL, anyway, but a court might take it just to stomp it into itty bitty bits of oblivion.
you don't belong anywhere near Europe plantsman. you don't have the cultural knowledge
yeah i dont see how palin could win a lawsuit, tho i guess the threat is enough in some cases.
XAN, Shannyn Moore didn't report anything as "fact", just spread the rumor, so she's gonna be just fine we think.
Besides, Sarah know's what character assassination is all about, it's all she did for 4 months last fall.
And who get's an atty to issue a threat to bloggers on the 4th of July anyway, unless it just a bluff?
Plantsman, you have a Wiccan spirit and sensability. Try it again, with any plant you come across. Many times that sort of ability works on different pathways than other neural systems, which you may think were lost after the stroke.
speaking of neural pathways though, mine have just noticed it is 4 in the friggin AM here and the storms are long gone and they are insisting on some downtime. nite all.
Barry, don't worry.
Plenty of attorney would defend her pro bono as a freedom of speech case.
Opinions please.
I was at the Wasilla Tea Party on the 4th and took this picture of some Fundies who were there.
Please give your interpretation of the second from left sign.
http://www.ptarmigannest.net/ima...ges/
fundies.jpg
uh, they don't like freedom of religion?
"No Freedom Of Religion" is what I get.
actually i dont understand any of the signs. i thought the tea party rallies were about economics.
plantsman is an idiot his logic is faulty. don't listen to hi.
I don't they covered the international symbol for NO in home school yet.
yeah i guess they are saying that obama's socialized healthcare will preclude them from practicing their religion. or something.
And I thought it was an alternative to coffee. Where IS my coffee?
They're all-purpose bitch-fests, aren't they?
actually i dont understand any of the signs. i thought the tea party rallies were about economics.
pretzel
Hang on a sec, let me get another pic from today.
We followed this guy in, his shirt reads "Alaska Machine Gun Association"
http://www.ptarmigannest.net/pic...t/pics/
amga.jpg
The buses run so infrequently on Sunday I'm gonna try and scrape together 2 more meal units today so I can go shopping tomorrow (Monday), but if there's a breeze and cooling on the way I might just go today and wait a long time.
hmm some tax exempt gun nut association
do the fundies have a rule against fashionable clothing?
or do you have to wear white tube socks to believe in Jeebus?
their website says they are very friendly folks. cause nothing says friendliness like a machine gun.
Nothing in the world like a protest sign ( other side said No Socialism) made out of a hockey stick and duct tape.
http://www.ptarmigannest.net/ima.../
hockeysign.JPG
misuse of duct tape! duct tape will save us from terrorism!
I am reading a fascinating book called "War of the Worlds: History's Age of Hatred" about how the 20th century was a century of war and hatred.
Something very interesting I learned already - Eastern Europe, especially between Poland and Russia was really a hodge podge of nationalities - Polish, Ukrainians, Germans, Jews, Russians, Lithuanians, etc
So it was hard to claim that one area was Polish or Ukrainian, for example, because each town contained a different mix or majority of people.
Same thing for the area that used to be Yugoslavia.
And the ironic thing was that when the Serbian nationalists killed Archduke Ferdinand in Sarajevo in 1914, they were doing it to create an independent Yugoslavia, not an independent Serbia, because the area was too culturally mixed.
or do you have to wear white tube socks to believe in Jeebus?
mimi
No, you can wear the fashionable Red shirts passed out by the local Baptist church. They wear the same shirts to protest the equal rights ordinance the Anchorage Assembly is considering.
http://www.ptarmigannest.net/ima...s/
redshirts.JPG
but in the last 20 years of course, all the groups that made up Yugoslavia had their wars to purify the areas and claim their space, even though close to 100 years ago, it was too mixed to allow that AND THE PEOPLE KNEW IT!
when I first saw how those people were dressed, I thought they were Mormons or Dukhobors or something more exotic
Leading Clerics In Iran Unhappy With Election Result:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/0....html?th&
emc=th
Yea, they were some patriots up in Wasilla. All about the USA, kinda. This was the biggest flag there.
http://www.ptarmigannest.net/ima...s/
tatsnflag.JPG
Naturally he had to have tons of tatoos.
BTW, whoever recommended Prime Suspect, thank you. I'm watching the second season from 1992. Not dated at all.
So, this person is following me on Twitter, which is interesting since I Tweeted all of twice, several months ago.
Mirren is incredible, the character is so captivatingly screwed up!
So, QL, do you know what happened to Ruth?
Saudis give nod to Israeli raid on Iran
is the title of an article at www.antiwar.com
Just a Gravatar test
And though it's honorable for countless others to leave their positions for a higher calling and without finishing a term, of course we know by now, for some reason a different standard applies for the decisions I make. But
wft palin, what countless others?
"Why, the countless others in my wide circle of imaginary friends, you betcha!"
one thing she said is true, alaska will be better off without her as governor (hmm having said that, i wonder who will take her place)
heh, some wingnut apparently compared palin's resignation to jesus going into the desert.
The current Lt. Gov., iirc.
pm, no, just that it sounded like the same kind of thing in the rental. She decided she was going to just sit for awhile.
Good morning all.
heh, some wingnut apparently compared palin's resignation to jesus going into the desert.
pretzel
Now there's a story with a happy ending.
It means she'll be down here, "speaking" and raising money.
she implied she was leaving for a higher calling. telemarketing?
MoDo: Now, Sarah's Folly.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/0....html?th&
emc=th
She can hunt wolves from the air and field-dress a moose, but she fears being a lame duck?
heh
Maybe Sarah could be Queen of Romania.
honestly, the republican party has been so entertaining lately.
"It would be apathetic to just hunker down and ‘go with the flow.' Nah, only dead fish ‘go with the flow.' No. Productive, fulfilled people determine where to put their efforts, choosing to wisely utilize precious time ... to BUILD UP."
Basically, the point was that Palin is quitting as governor because she's not a quitter. Or a deceased salmon.
gail collins
Palin provided a nice boost to both Collins and MoDo -- and they each made the most of it.
i wonder how her speech compared to nixon's withdrawal from politics. iirc he kinda went into meltdown mode.
Yeah, but even batshit-crazy Nixon was way smarter and more logical than Palin.
i wonder how her speech compared to nixon's withdrawal from politics. iirc he kinda went into meltdown mode.
pretzel
I was just thinking about that:
"You won't have Nixon to kick around anymore because, gentlemen, this is my last press conference."
-- Richard M. Nixon, 1962
Ruth had another accident yesterday. I hope she's okay and will be able to get to Bliss
This is worrying. When did it happen?
Good morning. I am afraid I am turning into my mother with this being up at six when I don't need to be.
Have no deets and Ruth hasn't logged on.
Maybe you're just becoming an early riser.
Yeah, I'll just roll with it.
(wants heat wave to END)
I've been trying to re-train myself to get up early to start my new job this Wednesday. It takes two buses to get there, and so getting up at 5:30am to allow time for my "zombie hour" will become the norm.
Yeah, I'll just roll with it.
You can roll?
Glad you got one, Uncle Smokes!
morning, all.
Uncle Smokes, so glad about the job, and you get to sleep on the bus, that always made my commute livable
Cool rain here!
im not a good roller i just use a pipe. i prefer the little corncob pipes.
You can roll?
Barndog,cannabis patient
That's why my McDonald's tray was always under the driver's seat.
Ruth! Are you okay?
Ruth! Are you okay?
Ruth, you okay? Wanna talk about what happened with the rental?
Hot coffee to uncle smokes.
cokes all 'round, dammit!
That's why my McDonald's tray was always under the driver's seat.
Okay.
McDonald's? We used to swipe them from Dog & Suds. Also, A&W.
Nice smooth trays...
Morning all. Is there an online interactive map showing the convergence
of the various tribes in their trek toward Bliss?
Just saw Joe Conason's "Rush Limbaugh is still a big fat idiot at salon.com from July 3 (plantsman may have signaled it at the time.)
Yeah, I'll just roll with it.
ms fahrenheit
Only unbroken Humpty Dumpty's roll with the flow.
I have no idea what that means. I should be governor of Alaska.
i just use a pipe. i prefer the little corncob pipes
Guess I'd better buy a case of glass pipes to send out to all you stoners, who can't quite grasp the plastic & metal connection.
They both emit toxic gasses and residue into your lungs when you smoke teh cannabis.
Use GLASS.
We used to swipe them from Dog & Suds. Also, A&W.
They were not around here, and it is true that McDonald's trays were not smooth.
no i take off the plastic part of the pipestem. just corncob.
Stoner chat at this hour?!? (clutches pearls mightily)
oh and wood.
"Obama Urges Liberal Groups to Stop Attacks"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...70302309_2.html
This doesn't make sense. If he is aware how many people this involves, he wouldn't be coming out against it. That is democracy and grass roots, and he is the one trying to revitalize that.
No, I missed that, L & B. Any more mad exterior decorating spells?
Thanks, fine really, but pretty shakey about driving now. I got backed into in the supermarket parking lot. Sitting still. Just had pulled out really slowly from a parking spot, because there weree kids running around and I am never at ease with backing around kids. and a lady from the opposite side of the aisle backed into me.
Very low speeed, and no injuries. I see upthread that soprano totalled a civic. what is with this?
Urge all you want -- just give us a public option.
Is there an online interactive map showing the convergence
of the various tribes in their trek toward Bliss?
That would be very cool and helpful!
no i take off the plastic part of the pipestem. just corncob.
Watch the cobs though. Some are cobs that have been broken down, then put back together with epoxy and stuff like that.
Is there an online interactive map showing the convergence
of the various tribes in their trek toward Bliss?
That would be cool. Too bad I don't know the first fucking thing about stuff like that.
ok thanks
Yeah, the driving juu-juu at moment is most worrisome. Southwest fly Love Field/Milwaukee ?
I see upthread that soprano totalled a civic. what is with this?
Too many dumbfuck drivers in your respective states, is my guess.
And, you are not one of them.
Were either of these morons texting as they hit you?
Hi Hon, jst lvg Mkt.
ms. f-comments at Digby's re Obama asking liberal groups to back off are interesting. All based on anonymous sources from Cici Connelly. I don't discount it entirely but I do take it with a grain of salt. Heehee, the pols really would like all us activists to just go away.
Palin at 4th of July parade in Juneau, no US flag, just an Alaska flag. And her blackberry. Can anyone say Alaska Independent Party? http://bit.ly/haQaH
Thought about flying, but at the moment I'm just going to wait and see how adventurous I feel. I'm just all packed and ready, but as you can imagine, worried about doing this now.
plantsman: Any more mad exterior decorating spells?
(My next-door neighbors brought bags of Spanish moss from Florida back here in Baja Atlanta. It really looks like Florida from my patio!)
No, no more decorating spells, plantsman, but I am using leftover moss as mulch for some of the potted flora. Looks very attractive; hope this is not contraindicated.
Loved your remark about healing and pruning, above, which I read, as is my wont, as parable.
Aaah, thanks ql. I should do more research before I jump to conclusions. I'll go check out the comments.
I'm just all packed and ready, but as you can imagine, worried about doing this now.
Hell, I'd drive down and tow you here. You can ride in the truck, and have no worries.
8,000 of rolling diesel steel. Not much gets in my way. And, if they do, they can count the bugs on the GMC Logo in front.
Not contra-indicated at all; in fact, it may help prolong the life of the moss. The Wiki on Spanish Moss says its established from Maryland South where conditions are right. You may fill your misting bottles at will.
For tracking Bliss trekkers, I had something like flightstats.com in mind, with little Monopoly pieces for the various caravans.
But it pays to remember that the Village is now in Democratic hands. ~Digby
uhm, they are in the corporation's hands, just like everyone else.
I should drink coffee before being so cynical, huh?
Good morning.
good morning. i am so glad you are ok ruth. while it is a full moon, and that does make people twiggy, i would suggest you look at it scientifically. if you'd been the one driving when this happened, i might say that perhaps a long drive isn't for you, but what happened in a parking lot isn't exactly a big accident on the road. the odds are that absolutely nothing is going to happen to you from now on, and anyway, if you don't feel like coming up here you still have to get home, so chances wise it amounts to mostly the same. i'd send you my transporter by the dilithium crystals are being recharged. whatever you decide, just stay safe, and if there's anything i can help you with just send me an email. i'm very glad we're all able to talk like this, even as following various atriot adventures makes me feel like a worried hen fussing after a bunch of chicks. 
By this evening, the Moon will be 100% Full.
No texting, just dizbat. Tried to tell me she'd honked and didn't I hear her? She honked while she drove into me? Once again, I took pics, and there was a scrunch on the outer edge of my rear bumper where she hit. with white paint from her car.
I was just reading Diane's terrific post on the Palin coverage. She found that the blogs actually did that news reporting stuff.
http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com/...or-
crooked.html
I'm glad it pushed Gail Collins' column to "Most Popular" at the NYT. That piece was hella funny.
First, the Washington Post:
Sarah Palin, the Republican Alaska governor who captivated the nation with a combative brand of folksy politics...
Excuse me, WaPo, there must be some mistake. I was not even remotely captivated.
Palin is beginning to sound like TCB threatening to sue Chris Tucker.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
20...l_n_225772.html
QL, while I won't read WaPo, I sorta figured it was them putting their own problems onto Pres O, and of course what they really really want is a bustup with those roots.
Barndog, ChiDyke, thanks, I am letting it ride until later, when I need to make a final decision and will see how it feels. I usually enjoy a long drive, and seeing new countryside, and the road in general. And want badly to see you folks. Just gonna play it by ear for now.
Palin playing the god card I see.
What a freakshow.
Jeesh, even Eschaton now has those ads that explode open if you go anywhere near them. I hate those.
I was reading a personal finance column in the NYT, and it mentioned that all the employees there got 5% paycuts but were encouraged to take an extra 10 days off to compensate for it.
Palin at 4th of July parade in Juneau, no US flag, just an Alaska flag. And her blackberry. Can anyone say Alaska Independent Party?
My goodness, they've got some portly cops there.
Pay-cuts are the new "blood-from-a-stone" from employers. "If you Really loved me you'd work for Less!
Actually, giving time off is a nice touch, better than the average pay cut.
And I see at The Sideshow a newspaper turned down a winger ad that was full of lies.. ethics breaking out? nice
Did everyone watch the dazzling fireworks last night? I was really amazed at NYC>and as always, love DC.
I did not watch Fireworks, don't watch New Year's "ball-drop" either.
Diane posting on some great contributions from kids promoting giving blood
http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com/
Good morning. Hope everyone is hale, hearty and hellacious today.
Morning, Gromit.
I don't really see the point of watching fireworks on TV. You have to be there to get the noise and the smell.
Police say former Washington Mayor Marion Barry has been arrested and charged with stalking a woman.
The United States Park Police said Barry, a current D.C. Council member, was arrested Saturday in Washington after a woman flagged down an officer and complained that Barry was stalking her.
Barry was charged with misdemeanor stalking and released.
Jeez, Ruth. Sorry to hear that. Do you have a target painted on you or something?
I like still photos of fireworks, the exposure time does neat things to them.
Ya know, I didn't view firework one this year.
I listen to them most of the night around the 4th. Most every year.
Seen one, ya seen them all.
And, why do we buy all our fireworks from China?
Why do the referrals at the cab show http://twitter.com a lot these days?
I suppose I should start twittering but haven't yet.
I like fireworks on teebee, did go to the nat'l mall to see them once, it was hard to get back home.
Because that's where they make fireworks.
Gromit, I figure it's a hit-me aura. and am not happy about it.
Another major paper circling the drain.
NEW YORK John Arthur has been forced out as Los Angeles Times executive editor.
Editor Russ Stanton explained in a posting at the paper's Web site, "John and I did not agree on the need for the just-announced masthead changes, and we differ on the best approach to reaching our goals."
Sports editor Randy Harvey becomes associate editor, and obituaries editor Jon Thurber will become managing editor, print.
Sports and obituary editors?
hmm i guess these days, obituaries is good job training for a managing editor.
Sports sections are huge with men; lots of statistics to track and change almost daily.
Sports and obituary editors?
Karin Hussein
the moneymakers, I guess.
http://www.zambellifireworks.com/
From my third-floor apartment window, I can see the big fireworks display far away at the fairgrounds.
My favorite is the burst of twinkling white stars that slowly sputter out while seemingly to hang in the air.
Good morning, dearest moonbats.
Our town's fireworks last night were exceptionally well done. Lots of sparklies exploding into more sparklies.
And while the musical accompaniment (recorded, of course) had to include the dreadful "God Bless the USA," it began with Ray Charles and ended with "Fanfare for the Common Man," so I can't complain.
(My cat, OTOH, didn't come out from under the bed for two hours after they ended.)
Barry was charged with misdemeanor stalking and released.
trifecta |
and that's exactly how women get killed. nice slap on the wrist, police guys! i'm sure he's very very sorry, not mentally unstable at all and you can trust him to never do it again.
i really hate our domestic violence "laws."
So, did Marco Polo bring fireworks back from China to Italy?
Barndog, there is a book that tells you how to make your own fireworks, if you don't want to get them from China.
http://www.backyard-ballistics.com/
I've never checked it out so I don't know how useful it is.
good morning all.
got up at 4:30 'cause i couldn't sleep.
CD, Barry was quoted as saying that, "The young gentlewoman in question was part of a sting operation to entrap him".
Or something like that.
Obits are good Village training, only telling nice lies about people.
rain is interfering with my server connection. I may not be able to get back in.
Barry was charged with misdemeanor stalking and released.
It wasn't me, honest!
Gromit, I figure it's a hit-me aura. and am not happy about it.
Ruth
Bummer of a birthmark, Ruth.
/Far Side
Barry, so glad you sent the gov packing up there. Diane found some interesting blogging about that little exit, and confirmed what I suspect, she is in big trouble.
MSNBC.com has an auto-loaded slide-show of NY Fireworks.
I am not happy that it is July and I need to turn my furnace on.
Bummer of a birthmark, Ruth.
/Far Side
Wait, is that a target on your car?
trifecta, i just shouldn't get started on this topic. i can't be rational about it. clearly he's not right in the head, and i'm sorry that DC is so fucked up he still has legitimacy in some people's eyes. but the bottom line is most of our laws relating to that sort of thing are shite, and they put women in impossible situations where any choice made is a bad one.
I agree. Restraining orders are mostly pointless as well.
Ruth - what's the scoop on Palin? Yesterday I wondered if something really bad was about to come out and she was trying to get ahead of it. But then I also wondered if she had gotten an offer of wingnut welfare at some conservatard "think tank."
The rich -- they're not like you and me.
Times Online - 12 hours ago
Bernard Madoff has hired a veteran prison consultant to help him to find the best possible jail in which to serve his 150-year sentence for Wall Street's biggest fraud.
At least she didn't waste time and filed a complaint right away -- woman has some ovaries.
heh a prison consultant.
Martha Stewart could be a prison consultant, I guess.
TEBB, seems there's a federal case in the offing for some of her dealings. She's too dumb to do it under the table.
see the cab. (homepage)
Okay, wrt the health care debate I guess I'm going to have to think about the good cop/bad cop argument.
Are we, the liberals (single payer) playing bad cop and should keep pushing because it works, or should Obama be playing the bad cop role and negotiate better?
MI6 wife told all on facebook; ""A great deal of taxpayers' money has been spent over the past several decades making sure he and his family are protected from security compromises. Well, it doesn't seem to be very relevant anymore, does it?""
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_ne...ews/
8134807.stm
Palin + 'think tank'
Does.not.compute.
Rahm does bad cop; Obama, not so much.
she is in big trouble.
no doubt. if that speech 'said' anything to me, it translated as 'oh shit! oh shit! i'm fucked! i'm too stupid to know what to do about it and some dim part of me senses that i'm in over my head. i have no idea what to do! /meltdown/' she's guilty, trapped, and they're coming for her.
having myself recently sort of had one an overload moment, it just seemed familiar to me. now, unlike sarah i think the only members of the public who viewed mine were my neighbors and family. which is nice cause no one wants a rep as an unstable crazee person. sarah, however, isn't as bright as i am and she confused the television public with people who are sympathetic to her. which speaks volumes about her to me, but anyway. if she wasn't so odious i could almost have sympathy for her. those times when things hit your Panic and Twig buttons aren't fun, and even bright people can have a hard time making good decisions during them.
Foreign Secretary David Miliband denied claims security had been compromised, saying: "You know he wears a Speedo swimsuit. That's not a state secret."
well thats the important thing.
Barndog, it's that licence plate;
Pinata
Morning
Well, one last time before I head to bed.
http://bit.ly/U09kU
but the bottom line is most of our laws relating to that sort of thing are shite, and they put women in impossible situations where any choice made is a bad one.
Have you ever read Thomas Perry's Jane Whitefield books? You should start with the first one, Vanishing Act
Rahm does bad cop; Obama, not so much.
plantsman, mad google skillz |
I am trying not to get into personality politics. Love Obama/Hate Obama, Love Hillary/Hate Hillary, but bringing up Rahm, does not help with this.
To date my biggest disappointment is his influence on all issues, now matter if he has a ballet dancer's legs or not.
Wow. It's tough to write something that incoherent.
Prison Bitch?
keep pushing because it works
Yes.
should Obama be playing the bad cop role and negotiate better?
Palin's lawyer has threatened to sue bloggers over the talk about her being under federal investigation.
sarah, however, isn't as bright as i am
You can't be for real.
Also.
Lost a bit:
Honestly, I have no idea. People seem to be shifting in our direction, and I wonder what BHO may be doing behind the scenes.
I pledge allegiance
to Goldman Sax
And all of their subsidiaries
Who fleece the Republic at their own behalf
One government, bought and paid for
With no accountability at all.
okay, i'm going back to bed to try to sleep. today we'll have a break in the weather - it's been around 100 degrees each day for the last week and is supposed to only get to 86.
can't wait to found out what hole palin has dug for herself.
thanks, Karin. i'll see if that's at the library.
/depression thought/
which i wonder for how much longer we'll have here. sigh.
What about the First Amendment, Sarah-Jeebus, dear?
Palin's lawyer has threatened to sue bloggers over the talk about her being under federal investigation.
Karin Hussein
Good luck with that. She's wery thin-skinned, isn't she?
It's "Sachs" -- as in the German spelling of Saxony.
Oh, did have one more linky thingy before bed.
From Shannyn Moore, the blogger Palin is threatning to sue.
" http://bit.ly/BcxXJ suck it up, buttercup."
Link goes to YouTube, "Sarah Palin says Hillary Clinton shouldn't whine about tough media coverage"
hee.
Barndog, it's that licence plate;
Pinata
Ruth
Stay well - and be careful out there!
Palin is the smartest person who went to U of Hawai, Hawaii Pacific, North Idaho Community College, U of Idaho, Matanuska-Susitna College, and back to U of Idaho.
Find me another person who went to those schools to get a 4 year degree who is smarter than Sarah Palin.
Also.
Well the tele-prompter thing does blow a hole in the theory that she is shaky, and nervous and running scared, without prep.
Holy crap on a cracker. What to think now.
Guess I'm gonna have to read the Taibbi article. I got so caught up in the financial stuff a few months ago I decided to try and stay away. It seems who is willing to discuss the article is as controversial as the article itself.
Good luck with that. She's wery thin-skinned, isn't she?
Gromit |
i too snorted at that. "striking blindly and ineffectively at the wrong enemy while in total panic," i believe that's called.
We pledge allegiance
to Goldman Sachs
And all of their Fiduciaries
Who fleece the Republic, at their own behalf
One government, bought and paid for
With no accountability for all.
Why? You can read a Teleprompter and be any or all of those things.
The plan is that Palin will go to the London School of Economics, then to Princeton Institute for Advanced Studies.
We pledge allegiance
to Goldman Sachs
And all of their Fiduciaries
Who fleece the Republic, at their own behalf
One government, bought and paid for
With no accountability for all.
That's a keeper, DWD.
Palin's lawyer has threatened to sue bloggers over the talk about her being under federal investigation.
Karin Hussein
Oh, that'll work, just as all those lawsuits by Tom Cruise have put to rest once and for all the rumors that he is gay.
You can read a Teleprompter and be any or all of those things.
Well, I did wonder who handed her that speech and said, "We've got you, now read this," but the speech has her hands all over it with the shifting and not completing a thought.
I admit I have to rethink this now.
Then she will simultaneously become Mick Jagger and Paul Krugman -- but with a 'gina!
I think Sarah Palin believes that most Americans believe she will be the second coming. Probably thinks she would have won the election if she were not burdened by McCain. Alaska has become too small for her. A new Face in the Crowd, so to speak. Her superiority complex is huge, facts just don't matter. Kind of like Mimi that way.
That speech was too bad to have been written by a professional speechwriter, imo.
Okay, I'm also not willing to bash her for going to lesser schools and elevate the "Ivy people."
So you're saying that the only problem with Sarah's speech was that an enemy ran the teleprompter at double speed?
Well the tele-prompter thing does blow a hole in the theory that she is shaky, and nervous and running scared, without prep.
i thought she was reading from a prompter when i watched. actually, that just makes her look worse. that speech was part of a "strategy" and someone has crafted a "plan" to deal with the coming shitstorm. smells like Sarah's famous brainpower behind it, which suggests she's going to flame out even faster than i'd thought.
she really thinks she can control how she is presented in the SCLM, and that her people are numerous and loyal. that's called "delusional." a lot of Villagers believe they can't be taken out, but they're proven wrong. the funny part is how many republicans are sitting back and enjoying this, as much as we are.
One government, bought and paid for
With no accountability at all.
DWD-YDWETAKIT?
And dear Baby Jesus, please bless our brave drone pilots.
Gee. From Vice Presidential candidate, to unemployed moron in less than a year.
I have a feeling if we could see that teleprompter, the speech would be scrawled in crayon.
They will bebuild her, retool her. She will be the new Dagny Taggart.
chicago dyke, Tabarna, hope ya don't mind, but I stole your "striking blindly" comment and sent it to Sarah's twitter acct.
Hee hee.
So, maybe baby Jeebus is in fact a miracle worker...
my haloscum is all messed up, am going to go do some stuff and see if it looks like my day to travel. l9r
Sarah is to Politics as the Special Olympics are to the Olympics.
I am not bashing her for going to lesser schools. But for going to so many of them.
She quit U of Hawaii after 3 days because it was too rainy. She flittered around. Bouncing from one place to the next. If she just went to the U of Idaho and stuck with it, it would be fine.
She is erratic. Her college career is a good example of it.
Okay, I'm also not willing to bash her for going to lesser schools and elevate the "Ivy people."
ms fahrenheit
so true. i have a blue blooded friend, mayflower etc., and he's been to like, all the ivies. i can't recall how many degrees he's actually managed to complete, but he has at least three that he hasn't finished. the schools just accept him, despite his slacker track record, cause he's a Legacy and has money and that's how that works.
how many republicans are sitting back and enjoying this, as much as we are.
I do think it is the repukes trying to drum her out, but it would be cool if in the future we have a thriller movie with a female lead instead of Bruce Willis, or Tom Cruise playing Sarah and she is being threatened by the Russian mob. (hence, they wrote the speech)
Wow, I am whack pretty early in the morning this fine day.
So, maybe baby Jeebus is in fact a miracle worker...
Barndog,cannabis patient
BD, you weren't hear when I posted this earlier. Any opinion on what the second from left sign means?
Taken at the Wasilla Teabaggers thing today.
http://www.ptarmigannest.net/ima...ges/
fundies.jpg
Hee hee.
Barry
you go right ahead, Sir! i guess i'm just a bully, but picking on sarah is almost as fun as making sanford jokes.
plantsman
You are 'on' this morning and cracking me up, but I would like to say I don't really want to be on your bad side ever.
BD, you weren't hear when I posted this earlier. Any opinion on what the second from left sign means?
Hmmm. That is kinda perplexing to say the least.
Palin claimed her 4 kids all said yes to her resigning, and one said Hell Yeah.
Even Trig? really?
My Sister started at Sarah Lawrence and transferred to Yale the first year they admitted women undergrads. She went to Yale Law. She wasn't a legacy and we certainly weren't rich.
So, maybe baby Jeebus is in fact a miracle worker...
Barndog,cannabis patient
BD, you weren't hear when I posted this earlier. Any opinion on what the second from left sign means?
Taken at the Wasilla Teabaggers thing today.
http://www.ptarmigannest.net/ima...ges/ fundies.jpg
Barry from Free Alaska | Homepage | 07.05.09 - 7:53 am | #
They want to live in Saudi Arabia?
They're really, really stupid?
I think I enjoy the mystery of this because I'm sick of everyone's sex life stories, and I have always enjoyed Agatha Christie.
Tom Cruise is going to play Sarah? Outrageous!
Even Trig? really?
trifecta |
not trying to be insensitive but what does it say about an adult politician with vast responsibilities asking a developmentally disabled child for advice? oh, and yeah. she's lying.
Sarah Palin -- All In
The American Thinker ^ | July 05, 2009 | Jay Valentine
There is a point in tournament poker where one player doesn't have the chips to play out the next raise, but they have great cards, so they call "all in." At that point, nobody can raise them and the hand gets played out -- either to a game changing win or a total loss for the person who made the call.
It appears Sarah Palin decided she and her family could no longer deal with the thousand cuts, so she is "all in."
Palin may well decide to stay home and make macaroni and cheese for the kids, but history may not let her. She has already established herself as a major player -- candidate or not. More importantly, the wildly critical left has put her in a financial position where she has no choice but to speak out, perhaps do a book, and make the money she needs to pay legal bills for 15 unwarranted "ethics" investigations, all of which she handily won. The legal bills remain.
I thought Sarah could also make moose stew and fried grizzly bear nuts? Or was that just another one of her fucking lies?
I will only say that my tart tongue has gotten me into trouble several times in my life.
it would be cool if in the future we have a thriller movie with a female lead instead of Bruce Willis, or Tom Cruise playing Sarah and she is being threatened by the Russian mob.
ms fahrenheit
No, they are anti-Pootypoot like her. KGB maybe?
Barry - the wife noted the interesting concept of those folks wearing Utah-style clothing in Wasilla.
Tom Cruise is going to play Sarah? Outrageous!
I was thinking Chi Dy.
Forget if Trig was disabled. He is less than 18 months old.
Even if he was Einstein baby, consulting with him on an answer is really stupid.
It didn't happen. Another one of her dumb lies.
sheets
.
Beds.
Ciao
I will only say that my tart tongue has gotten me into trouble several times in my life.
plantsman, mad google skillz
Oh! Not me! Never! Ever!
(right)
Trig is actually 14 months old for Jeebus' sake.
no, no plants. i'm speaking of a specific thing that a very select group of students get to enjoy. you meet them, over the years.
tranferring happens all the time. that's natural and expected. but the thing is, in admissions if you see an app with too many of those, four or five, it's a big red flag. you have to ask yourself what kind of student this is and if it's worth it to give him a spot at a selective school, or to a better and more stable applicant. in the case of some applicants, this doesn't apply. usually for reasons of money and Legacy status. they are drifters in the educational world, bright enough to be in college but utterly lacking in focus. sometimes you even really want them to come, "wandering genius" and all that. so don't hear me bashing applicants, esp those who "transfer up." i know what that takes, it's something to be proud of.
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