I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Works for the insurance company donors, though.
Baucus had single payer advocates arrested and now he regrets not including single payer?
What a F#CKT&RD!!!!!
Crap no one actually supports!
"Credit for getting caught in such a incredibly stupid manner maybe."
no. to me, i'd give him credit if he woulda fessed up a year ago.
but you don't go boinking someone for a year, and then when it get untenable, get 'credit' for being 'honest'.
you just know he's gonna get busted for porking on his other secret trip he took a while back...
Study: Women look away more from abnormal babies
WASHINGTON (AP) - Puzzling new research suggests women have a harder time than men looking at babies with facial birth defects.
"They had this subliminal motivation to get rid of the faces," said Elman, who questions whether "we're designed by nature to invest all the resources into healthy-looking kids."
The study couldn't explain the gender disparity. Elman noted that previous work has linked child abandonment and neglect to abnormal appearance, and even asked if the finding might challenge the concept of unconditional maternal love.
"I belong to no organized political party. I am a Democrat." H/T Mark Twain.
the rightards meltdown:
well, another one of sarah’s oppnents goes down the tubers.
next, we find out that mitt’s hairpiece is phony.
jesus, they’re falling like tenpins.
no. this is really pathetic. especially watching him hide behind the bible. you don’t go into republican politics if you can’t hide john thomas in your pants. you don’t cheat on the mrs. you just don’t. if you do, the D’s will find out about it and kill you.
STUPID, STUPID, STUPID.
so, I wonder how much rahm paid the girl to flip on him?
SANFORD ON THE MIGHTY CLENIS
":“We ought to ask questions…rather than circle the wagons for one of our tribe.” [Sanford on how the GOP reacts to affairs, New York Post, 12/20/98]
“I think it would be much better for the country and for him personally (to resign). I come from the business side. If you had a chairman or president in the business world facing these allegations, he’d be gone.” [Sanford on Clinton, The Post and Courier, 9/12/98]
“The issue of lying is probably the biggest harm, if you will, to the system of Democratic government, representatives government, because it undermines trust. And if you undermine trust in our system, you undermine everything.” [Sanford on Clinton, CNN, 2/16/99]"
olexicon, mike sass
This is like the most basic lesson I teach my clients when we are drafting administrative rules or proposed legislation.
It is not rocket science.
Kent Conrad on Ed Shultz radio show said they don't have the 60 votes to pass a public option.
No Sen. from MN , no Kennedy no Byrd.
Can't vote the package in with a reconciliation vote because the rules allow for the bill to be paid off if 5 years as opposed to 10 and due to the "Byrd Rule" requires that it reduce the deficit.
stfu Buttloe
Feature, not a bug.
Someone suggested (somewhere?) that Obama was playing a game here: offering to compromise knowing full-well the Republicans will not. When then do not, that frees him to do what needs to be done.
Not sure if I agree - I am more inclined to Atrios' viewpoint - but it is interesting.
Southern man don't need him around, anyhow.
*blam!*
If Team Obama fails to get a public option, this president (who I like, respect and support) is going to be a one termer.
Also. FUCK YOU, SENATOR BAUCUS.
Your regrets don't mean shit to the people who are dying.
"What makes Sanford’s extramarital affair so much less egregious than those of the Democratic counterparts I mention above is that he didn’t abuse the power of his office. '
Did they happen to ask if he flew out on the TAxpayers dime?
Mr Baucus regrets....
Report: Senator Max Baucus Received More Campaign Money from Health and Insurance Industry Interests than Any Other Member of Congress.
In the past six years, nearly one-fourth of every dime raised by Baucus and his political-action committee has come from groups and individuals associated with drug companies, insurers, hospitals, medical-supply firms, health-service companies and other health professionals.”
http://www.democracynow.org/
2009...s_received_more
“I think it would be much better for the country and for him personally (to resign). I come from the business side. If you had a chairman or president in the business world facing these allegations, he’d be gone.” [Sanford on Clinton, The Post and Courier, 9/12/98]
Bullshit. A chairman or CEO would get high fives from all his buddies.
I belong to no organized political party. I am a Democrat." H/T Mark Twain.
Will Rogers?
Baucus is a lickspittle of the parasitic cancer tumor on the American health care system.
Fuck him. Sideways with a power saw.
"I belong to no organized political party. I am a Democrat." H/T Mark Twain
[pssst]
Will Rogers
is going to be a one termer.
David Derbes | 06.24.09 - 3:33 pm | #
i disagree. There isn't a republican in sight who can defeat him.
I see MSNBC is turning to Reza Pahlavi II, former "crown prince of Iran" for commentary on Iranian democracy. Great. Who better?
Sure, I'd give Sanford credit, if he'd resign immediately. Anything else is just crocodile tears and CYA.
Obama's plan slashes medicare for old folks.
Reid.. Pelosi.. no more need be said.
he didn’t abuse the power of his office.
No, he just took off for a week, didn't tell anyone in the state where he was and likely charged the trip off to his official expense account.
No abuse at all!
Study: Women look away more from abnormal babies
WASHINGTON (AP) - Puzzling new research suggests women have a harder time than men looking at babies with facial birth defects.
"They had this subliminal motivation to get rid of the faces," said Elman, who questions whether "we're designed by nature to invest all the resources into healthy-looking kids."
These things piss me off so much. The study, if it shows anything at (unlikely), shows that female teenage college freshman at Whatever Bumfuck U conducted the study, are more likely to look away than their male, "cool! Deformities!" counterparts.
They take that and run it all the way to some genetic bullshit.
"I belong to no organized political party. I am a Democrat." H/T Mark Twain.
Comrade NSA
Ummm. Will Rogers?
I see MSNBC is turning to Reza Pahlavi II
Chichimec
Shah-WOW!
Sly and the Family Stone
I hear that Sly is performing again.
"What makes Sanford’s extramarital affair so much less egregious than those of the Democratic counterparts I mention above is that he didn’t abuse the power of his office. '
The motherfucker was AWOL for five days.
Hang him.
Translation of Iran slogans and signs
All that matters is getting invited to the right parties.
i disagree. There isn't a republican in sight who can defeat him.
ronjazz ♠
Not necessarily. Not if he pisses off enough progressives and a viable third party candidate emerges to split the Dem vote.
Reid.. Pelosi.. no more need be said.
leibniz♘☮
Pelosi says the House bill will include a public option
The Dems don't want health care any more than the Repubs. They just want it as a campaign seller. My scumbag Ron Wyden is exhibit A
i disagree. There isn't a republican in sight who can defeat him.
ronjazz ♠
Didn't say it would be a Republican, ronjazz.
Steve Simels thinks we get a new party. He might be right.
"If Team Obama fails to get a public option, this president (who I like, respect and support) is going to be a one termer."
not just him, but probably many more. they'll stay home in 2010 and will not work/give money.
Will Rogers, then!
Will Rogers
Billy B
Here's your coke. . . .
viable third party candidate emerges
heh heh heh
.is going to be a one termer.
David Derbes
I rather doubt that, and I also doubt that the public option is dead yet.
"Fly to Alaska? Sure Wiley, why not!"
-Will Rogers (for sure!)
.
NONONONO Atrios, you're going to have certain of your commenters call you hysterical for suggesting that!!!! It's CRAZYTALK because Obama is eleventyseven steps ahead of everyone else!!!
Not if he pisses off enough progressives and a viable third party candidate emerges to split the Dem vote.
TJ, working | 06.24.09 - 3:35 pm | #
Who will lead this team of unicorns?
Pelosi says the House bill will include a public option
BlueinColorado
It damned well better. The DC3 keeps calling me asking for money, and I keep pointedly telling them I target my donations to candidates I think will act like Democrats.
Obama's plan slashes medicare for old folks.
mrs g
Evidence? Link?
I call bullshit.
You little peeps just don't unnnerstan the sexual drive of an alpha male.
/rush
"Didn't say it would be a Republican, ronjazz.
Steve Simels thinks we get a new party. He might be right."
Not a chance.
Atrios doesn't understand CHESS!11!!!! AND JUJITSU MOVES!!!!!11111
he's crazy!
Sanford was another Clenis chaser?
Oh, this is rich.....
steve simels
That was totally different. Monica wasn't a dear dear friend.
Josh Marshall thinks this means Romney will be the R candidate in 2012.
It's too early to start guessing who's going to lose to Obama in '12.
Cokes all around. Here ya go.
I see MSNBC is turning to Reza Pahlavi II, former "crown prince of Iran" for commentary on Iranian democracy. Great. Who better?
Maybe if the US hadn't supported the overthrow of Mosaddeq, we wouldn't be having these discussions.
Didn't Sanford steal a state vehicle on the way to his Father's Day Fling?
• February 10, 1964 President Johnson sends special message, "Health of the Nation," to Congress, advocating Medicare.
• June 24, 1964 The Ways and Means Committee executive session decides to postpone action on Medicare.
• July 7, 1964 Ways and Means Committee reports Social Security amendments Bill HR 11865 The Bill included a benefit increase, but no health care proposal.
• July 1964 During the Republican National Convention, Ronald Regan in a speech supporting Senator Barry Goldwater's campaign for President says, "Will you resist the temptation to get a government handout for your community? Realize that the doctor's fight against socialized medicine is your fight. We can't socialize the doctors without socializing the patients. Recognize that government invasion of public power is eventually an assault upon your own business."
• July 24, 1964 HR 11865 passed by the House.
• August 6, 1964 Senate Committee on Finance begins hearings on HR 11865.
• August 20, 1964 HR 11865 reported by the Finance Committee without the addition of a health insurance provision.
• September 2, 1964 Medicare proposal passes Senate as an amendment to HR 11865.
• October 2, 1964 House-Senate Conference Committee deadlocks, being unable to resolve differences, between Senate and House versions of HR 11865.
• March 23, 1965 The Committee on Ways and Means of the House of Representatives approved a Bill to replace the Administration's proposal with an unprecedented package of health benefits and Social Security improvements know as the Mills Bill.
• July 30, 1965 Medicare (the Mills Bill) is signed into law as part of the Social Security Amendments of 1965. Former President Harry Truman is the first person to enroll in Medicare. After the Medicare Bill was signed, President Johnson remarked, "…This bill, will increase social security benefits for all of our older Americans. It will improve wide range of health and medical services for Americans of all ages. In 1935 when the man that both of us loved so much, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, signed the Social Security Act, he said it was, and I quote him, "a cornerstone in a structure which is being built but it is by no means complete."
A third party rising on the left to take down Obama? Not in this country.
next, we find out that mitt’s hairpiece is phony.
............and Bobby Jindal is actually Sam Jaffe playing Gunga Din on the big screen.
Colbert interview with Sanford. Classic.
http://tiny.cc/ixipU
tl;dnr
He conceded that it was a mistake to rule out a fully government-run health system, or a “single-payer plan,”
I guess you should have let the single payer folks in the meeting room. Oh well, better luck next time. Maybe thirty years from now you'll get another swing at it Max. It's only people's lives and health.
Josh Marshall thinks this means Romney will be the R candidate in 2012.
Thumper
That's a quote from Rich Lowry.
Shorter Baucus: I'm an imbecile who failed Negotiations 101 because I grew up in a lead box where the only food was whatever skin cells I could suck off a Republican cock.
Pelosi says the House bill will include a public option
BlueinColorado
She does indeed. Whether the House will cave remains to be seen.
Who will lead this team of unicorns?
ronjazz ♠
Obama had 53% of the vote to McCain's 46% IIRC. It wouldn't take much to tip that balance.
Thanks for that UF. This fight is far from over.
That's a quote from Rich Lowry.
Ooops, you're right.
Sorry!
The pitfalls of premature eloquence
I am so sick of the Democrats and their kabuki theater. It's true, the whole lot of them are bought off by the insurance cos. None of them want to give us national health care of any kind.
Pass it and sign it, Dems. Goddamn sellouts.
What is it with a so-called "democracy" where 3/4 of the people want something but instead get to pound sand?
I had Reza Pahlavi II in a class at the American School in Egypt. He had some super dooper calculator. One day he was late. Two thugs in leisure suits came in with Uzi machine guns. Turned out he was smooching some girl in another building.
Good old Ronnie Raygun:
July 1964 During the Republican National Convention, Ronald Regan in a speech supporting Senator Barry Goldwater's campaign for President says, "Will you resist the temptation to get a government handout for your community? Realize that the doctor's fight against socialized medicine is your fight. We can't socialize the doctors without socializing the patients. Recognize that government invasion of public power is eventually an assault upon your own business."
This frickin' neurosis over bipartisanship must be based on the feeling that Dem's will go back to being the Minority Party and they hope that the 'Thugs will be nice to them then if they are nice to them now.
And being gunshy about the brutal charge that politicians can never get anything done.
Let me try this again (as US-Spain is starting up after the half):
I like Obama. I want him to succeed. I think he's going to try to get a public option. But if he doesn't?
Seventy-plus percent of this country want a public option. I could imagine Bernie Sanders or Barney Frank or even Nancy Pelosi starting a third party based on one idea: the public option.
Seventy percent is an effin' landslide.
I hear that Sly is performing again.
I have heard that this is the case.
Where's Simels?
"My scumbag Ron Wyden is exhibit A"
i thought he was a good one? saw him and his 'plan' on teevee.
what a fucking tool.
All that matters is getting invited to the right parties.
Obama, Steelers, etc.
Gomex, you need to come out of the closet and get a gravatar and a name.
Expose yourself.
.I am so sick of the Democrats and their kabuki theater. It's true, the whole lot of them are bought off by the insurance cos. None of them want to give us national health care of any kind.
Libby, now relocated
Thank FSM that is a patently untrue statement.
Other than Jimi's solo, CS&N, and Canned Heat, Sha Na Na's is undoubtedly the best music in the movie, by far.
Sly and the Family Stone
I thought CS&N sucked in the movie. Best was Canned Heat, Santana & Ten Years After.
The pitfalls of premature eloquence
You gotta think of something else, like playing basketball or something.
As I've said many times:
The only "reaching across the aisle" I would want to do is slapping the Repigs upside their heads.
It's true, the whole lot of them are bought off by the insurance cos. None of them want to give us national health care of any kind.
Libby, now relocated
Debbie Stabenow supports national health care.
We can't socialize the doctors without socializing the patients.
God knows there a ton of people in this berg of "me first" that could use socializing.
US Congress tell 3 out of 4 Americans to "Fuck Off and Die"
"Seventy percent is an effin' landslide."
Right. Barney Frank will get 70% of the vote in 2012.
Good one.
.Seventy percent is an effin' landslide.
David Derbes ,
In case you hadn't noticed, people don't generally vote for president based on only one issue.
Gosh it seems like only a few days ago I was roundly castigated for making the point that Real Leadership would have started with single payer and beaten both Dems and the GOP alike over the head with it till they *begged* for a public plan.
We've *already* lost the first round - the evidence is that the debate is over "whether or not" to have a public option. That should have been a given, but that it isn't to me is a Leadership Fail.
We should have started with single payer. I'm really afraid they're gonna come up with something they'll rename a quasi-public plan or a public/private partnership when it will only be the co-op crap with a new name. Someone was trying to sell the co-op idea as saying they would be regional in nature but could band together to negotiate better pricing. I call bullshit on the whole thing.
From below:
And by the way, thank you Marcellina for posting that very fetching picture. Quite lovely indeed.
Glenn
The only "reaching across the aisle" I would want to do is slapping the Repigs upside their heads.
Terry C-Castrating B*tch
You could use a baseball bat...
Ronald Reagan in a speech supporting Senator Barry Goldwater's campaign for President
You know what was hilarious?
Goldwater couldn't STAND him.
So Sanford was hiking the wrong trail.
Seventy-plus percent of this country want a public option.
Seventy percent is an effin' landslide.
Which is why you'll see a public option.
Book that.
Pols can't ignore those kinds of numbers.
The only "reaching across the aisle" I would want to do is slapping the Repigs upside their heads.
Terry C-Castrating B*tch
You could use a baseball bat...
David Derbes
Louisville Slugger.
Goldwater couldn't STAND him.
Goldwater knew he was an opportunist.
many hearts aflutter over the fetching flutter's photos
What JeffCO said.
(and I agreed with you a few days ago as well)
Spain is putting tremendous pressure on the US. If US wins, it will be due mostly to the superior goalkeeping of Team US.
You know what was hilarious?
Goldwater couldn't STAND him.
Barry could sniff out his bullshit even then.
Tearful Romney Admits Sex With Own Hair
"the only one i have ever loved"
Denies He Is Cyborg Created By Ad Agency
.
Thank FSM that is a patently untrue statement.
slartibartfast | 06.24.09 - 3:40 pm
I may have overstated it a little, and by that I meant the whole lot on both sides of the fence. But really, there may be a handful that aren't in the industry's pocket, but not enough to overcome the mass that are.
pffft. little people don't count these days
Seventy percent of voters want an Argentine girlfriend.
No surprise: Sanford was critical of Bob Livingston's wandering willy in 98
"...The bottom line, though, is he still lied. He lied under a different oath, and that is the oath to his wife. So it’s got to be taken very, very seriously.” [Sanford on Livingston, CNN, 12/18/98]
Boy did I bet on the wrong horse.
I did not think Sanford would crack at the news conference and I did not think this was about sex.
Practically everyone here thought it was about sex.
Oh well. Now my batting average (new metaphor alert) has dropped to .125, just above Toby's.
He lied under a different oath, and that is the oath to his wife. So it’s got to be taken very, very seriously
These people are fucking sick.
Schumer and Gillibrand had been oddly silent on the issue.
Gee - look at the top 2. The two most likely to get hurt by the public option.
http://www.opensecrets.org/indus...stries/
mems.php
In case you hadn't noticed, people don't generally vote for president based on only one issue.
slartibartfast
Generally they do not. But there are a few exceptions; Wilson in his second term, for example.
Which is why you'll see a public option.
Book that.
Pols can't ignore those kinds of numbers.
Billy B
Or something they CALL a public option but which isn't, really, and which doesn't do anything towards achieving universal coverage or which makes it harder to achieve single payer. Avedon wrote about this a few days ago and was right on target.
MIA= Missing in Argentina
Umm...Max. Nothing is preventing you from bringing Single Payer back into the mix.
We should have started with single payer. I'm really afraid they're gonna come up with something they'll rename a quasi-public plan or a public/private partnership when it will only be the co-op crap with a new name. Someone was trying to sell the co-op idea as saying they would be regional in nature but could band together to negotiate better pricing. I call bullshit on the whole thing.
QL-Big Fan of Digby | Homepage | 06.24.09 - 3:41 pm
Exactly QL. MedicareD all over again. Or the Bankruptcy Bill. On the big stuff, they've let us down repeatedly.
Spain 0 - 1 USA
..
Dmitry Medvedev, the Russian president, has arrived in Nigeria on a visit to boost economic ties and trade between the two countries, becoming the first Kremlin leader to visit Africa's most populous nation.
Medvedev will hold talks with Umaru Yar'Adua, Nigeria's president, on the second stop of a four-nation African tour which will also take him to Namibia and Angola.
Despite its considerable energy resources and membership of Opec, the oil producing group, Nigeria is struggling to overcome a lingering power crisis.
http://english.aljazeera.net/
new...2131262824.html
Seventy percent of voters want an Argentine girlfriend.
Moe Szyslak
We all need a shoulder to cry on from time to time.
Sanford broke Commandments 4,7,9, and 10.
tweety/joe scar debate over health care
http://www.dailykos.com/story/20...th-care-(Video)
Exactly QL. MedicareD all over again. Or the Bankruptcy Bill. On the big stuff, they've let us down repeatedly.
Libby, now relocated
It's beyond discouraging.
I call bullshit on the whole thing.
Always a good call, whatever we're talking about.
. But really, there may be a handful that aren't in the industry's pocket, but not enough to overcome the mass that are.
Libby, now relocated,
It's maddening how screwed up many of their priorities seem to be, but nonetheless I'll bet you we get it this time. While the 70 percent who favor a public option are not going to band together and form a third party to unseat Obama, they do represent a very significant cudgel to wobbly Dem senators, as Billy B pointed out. This may take a while, as Medicare did, but I am very far from losing hope.
what will stem the tide of millions of Americans seeking medical care in Canada?
teh horror!
Bobo Brooks likes Ron Wyden's plan. You know it sucks worse than his prescription pill payoff on Part D.
Dmitry Medvedev, the Russian president, has arrived in Nigeria on a visit to boost economic ties and trade between the two countries, becoming the first Kremlin leader to visit Africa's most populous nation.
Did anyone tell Medvedev those Nigerian emails are scams?
(and I agreed with you a few days ago as well) TJ
Now if only we could back and slap Baucus and others around with a dead fish a few months ago.
Gaucho Mark, pride of the Pampas.
Pols can't ignore those kinds of numbers.
Billy B
Plus he has now strongly come out for a public option. Like I said above is how they'll get around it if that is what they want to do.
Why can't I have an Argentine girlfriend. Damn.
Goddamn. The Bankruptcy Bill. What monumental fuckers they have been.
Yes, I'm talking about you, Mr. Vice President (MBNA).
What will stem the bullshit from Luby's mouth? nothing. From Limpdick's ass to luby's lips.
We should have started with single payer.
Yes. And now all those contributions to Baucus to keep single payer completely and totally off the table are paying big dividends.
Sanford's wife Jenny told CNN Tuesday she had not talked to her husband since he left last Thursday and did not know where he went.
"I am being a mom today. I have not heard from my husband. I am taking care of my children," she said outside the couple's beach home on Sullivan's Island, South Carolina.
Lady, dump this sack of shit, become an atheist, and raise your kids free from fundie Repukkke horseshit.
tweety/joe scar debate over health care
Pass
Why can't I have an Argentine girlfriend. Damn.
roy
Apparently you have to go to Bible Study.
Wilson in his second term, for example.
Fucking racist piece of crap.
I seem to recall a bunch of single payer advocates actually going after baucus because he wouldn't even let them speak at the hearings -- and had a meeting with him in his office to slap him around.
They all warned him that this would happen at the time. Now he sees the light and realizes he was a fuckhead.
Debbie Stabenow supports national health care.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | 06.24.09 - 3:41 pm
So are a lot of them. The question is will they vote for it and not for a "compromise" that screws us?
Talk is cheap.
"Do you think the federal government should or should not regulate the release of greenhouse gases from sources like power plants, cars and factories in an effort to reduce global warming?"
Should - 75%
Yet, once again we see the Dems holding their dicks and offering up weak gruel.
The Real Situation in Iran: Moving Fast
Why can't I have an Argentine girlfriend. Damn.
roy
Apparently you have to go to Bible Study.
TJ, working
I couldn't fake that even for hawt sex.
Exactly QL. MedicareD all over again. Or the Bankruptcy Bill. On the big stuff, they've let us down repeatedly.
Every time my parents overpay for meds I am reminded of Ted Kennedy deciding half a loaf is better than none and let's not fight for bargaining with Big Pharma.
tweety/joe scar debate over health care
Pass
dan mcenroe
Actually, Tweets slapped Joe around pretty good.
I wonder if Sanford's gal pal looks anything like that Chilean woman on NCIS?
I just took a Zyrtec, so obviously, I need to go talk to my bicycle.
Bobo Brooks likes Ron Wyden's plan. You know it sucks worse than his prescription pill payoff on Part D.
An endorsement by Bobo means it's FAIL.
I once asked a friend who spent a lot of time at the church why? She said, "Church is more of a social experience."
Hmmmm. Maybe that is why the Repukes go to church: to meet hot, sexy Christian Ladies.
.Every time my parents overpay for meds I am reminded of Ted Kennedy deciding half a loaf is better than none and let's not fight for bargaining with Big Pharma.
JeffCO
Ted Kennedy was playing a very weak hand at the time. It's a miracle anything got passed at all.
If I can't have an Argentine girlfriend, can I at least have a Brazilian supermodel?
If I can't have an Argentine girlfriend, can I at least have a Brazilian supermodel?
You can have a Peruvian llama.
I couldn't fake that even for hawt sex.
racymind
I did 12 years of Catholic school; I could help you BS your way through it if you blog the good stuff.
I just took a Zyrtec, so obviously, I need to go talk to my bicycle.
Jeffraham, Mister Bobby
ding ding ding - MOST annoying commercials on TV by far.
"Fishing rod, I've missed you."
"Well," says the fishing rod,"If you would stop playing with your own rod. . . ."
Grassley is a punk.
Fuck him, and fuck bi-partisanship.
And as far as Rahm Emanuel is concerned, there had BETTER be a public option.
Enough of this crap where the President says publicly that he wants a public option included, then a day later Rahm comes out and says, 'well not necessarily, we need bipartisanship.'
ENOUGH!
Grow some balls, Rahm!
Maybe that is why the Repukes go to church: to meet hot, sexy Christian Ladies.
DWD |
She left me for Jesus...
if I ever find Jesus, I'm gonna kick his ass.
I sent Baucus an email, a fax, a letter and I phoned a few months back when he said single payer was off the table.
But I don't have "CEO" after my name and my letters don't come with money so my opinion mean shit.
Fuck You Max, you sorry piece of shit.
If I can't have an Argentine girlfriend, can I at least have a Brazilian supermodel?
You can have a Peruvian llama.
heh...heh...heh...
A short message on the back of Maj. Eric Montalvo’s business card reads: "My lawyer has told me not to talk to anyone about my case, not to answer any questions and not to reply to any accusations." The message is intended for those who try to approach his clients. Montalvo has one of the most difficult jobs anywhere. As a soldier and prosecutor for the US military, he is tasked with defending those suspected by the US government of committing acts of terrorism in Afghanistan and around the world. Some of his clients have not even been charged.
Now, Montalvo is fighting in Afghanistan’s Supreme Court to represent an Afghan national in a legal case that could have far-reaching implications for the US government’s attempts to relocate Guantanamo Bay prisoners to third countries, or detain them indefinitely in the United States.
http://www.eurasianet.org/
depart...eav062309.shtml
Moonbootica, I love the list of demands at that link you just posted.
This is not often stated (well, I haven't seen it at all) but the failed Clinton plan had local regional providers who wouldn't have been able to turn people down.
Medicare Part D was the largest and most costly Entitlement Program in the History of the US.
So Sanford was hiking the wrong trail. - I see
Humping the wrong tail.
I couldn't fake that even for hawt sex.
racymind
I did 12 years of Catholic school; I could help you BS your way through it if you blog the good stuff.
dan mcenroe
Heh... I did 4 years. I used to could have faked it.
im ashamed i know The Rule in Shelley's Case.
surely no profession is worth such trivial nonsense.
""I am being a mom today. I have not heard from my husband. I am taking care of my children,"
that's what tipped it for me. plus the 'my' children, not 'our' children.
she's gonna take him to the cleaners.
And good afternoon, batses!
"I am being a mom today. I have not heard from my husband. I am taking care of my children,"
Nicely done.
He's gonna get so shivved in court.
She left me for Jesus...
if I ever find Jesus, I'm gonna kick his ass.
Jesus just left Chicago
He's bound for New Orleans
Working from one end to the other
and all points in between...
Has assrocket checked the kerning on Sanford's presser?
If I can't have an Argentine girlfriend, can I at least have a Brazilian supermodel?
You can have the Brazilian. Enjoy!
If I can't have an Argentine girlfriend, can I at least have a Brazilian supermodel?
Would you settle for a Cuban sandwich & a full Brazilian?
this is not looking good. It seems as if they are going to compromise a public option right off the table and NOW they are talking about TAXING the benefits you get from your employer.
Changing to something worse than what we have now, is not the change I voted for.
Has assrocket checked the kerning on Sanford's presser?
Second scariest euphemism ever.
I had a Costa Rican coffee millionaire's son for a boyfriend once.
Medicare Part D was the largest and most costly Entitlement Program in the History of the US.
More hookers and blow money for Big Pharma CEOs.
These assholes need to be permanently disentitled.
David Derbes : If Team Obama fails to get a public option, this president (who I like, respect and support) is going to be a one termer.
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David Derbes : I like Obama. I want him to succeed. I think he's going to try to get a public option. But if he doesn't?
Seventy-plus percent of this country want a public option. I could imagine Bernie Sanders or Barney Frank or even Nancy Pelosi starting a third party based on one idea: the public option.
Seventy percent is an effin' landslide.
From earlier:
The problem is, he [Obama] goes squishy when it's time to deal, and the Thugs game him on it ruthlessly. He gave up far too much on the stimulus, and didn't get one, not one Thug vote.
And we know that he wont get a single Thug vote, not one, on ANY health care plan. If he believes in the public option, he'd better stop acting like he's going to get Thug support - he won't.
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If I can't have an Argentine girlfriend, can I at least have a Brazilian supermodel?
How 'bout a psycho supermodel? I know where you can pick one up for cheap.
They all warned him that this would happen at the time. Now he sees the light and realizes he was a fuckhead.
Hesiod
Your timing is a bit off. He took it off the table and when 8 doctors and nurses were willing to get arrested and face 6 mos. in jail for disrupting the work of the Senate, he decided to meet with them. After the meeting he said, golly gee folks, I guess I was wrong to take it off the table, but too late now. kthxbye.
Meanwhile there are news reports he is getting hammered back home in places like Mousilla and Helena. If they get it, why the fuck can't he. His job could very well be on the line.
At the heart of his petition is the case of Mohammed Jawad, a minor when he was arrested in December 2002 for his alleged involvement in a hand grenade attack on a US military vehicle. Jawad was reportedly 12 at the time he was sent to Guantanamo. While Jawad’s exact age is difficult to determine because of an absence of official records, military prosecutors have accepted that he was a juvenile at the beginning of his incarceration.
Montalvo’s petition argues that Jawad was not involved in the attack and that his confession was obtained under torture and duress, perpetrated both by Afghan police officers who initially arrested him and by interrogators at US detention facilities at Bagram Air Base, Afghanistan, and Guantanamo Bay, where he is still held.
In a boon to the defense, Montalvo’s plea to suppress Jawad’s statements under interrogation has been accepted by a US military judge in the Guantanamo Military Commission. Moreover, in September 2008, Lt. Col. Darryl Vandeveld, the lead prosecutor in the case against Jawad, left the commission because, he said, he could not ethically continue to prosecute the case. "I personally do not believe there is any lawful basis for continuing to detain Mr. Jawad," Vandeveld wrote in his resignation letter. "There is no reliable evidence of any voluntary involvement with any terrorist group."
http://www.eurasianet.org/
depart...eav062309.shtml
"I don't know why the Dems never learn this lesson."
don't assume baucus is that stupid. he's not. it's all on purpose.
she's gonna take him to the cleaners.
jdw |
I saw him say "I come from the bizness world". I assume that means he's rich. He's gonna be a lot less rich. I see a future of C-list motivational speaking and articles titled "Ten Years Later, Mark Sanford Content"
I am being a mom today.
Tonight, tho, I'm starring in a MILF vid.
they are talking about TAXING the benefits you get from your employer.
I'm sure I speak for everyone here when I say, "FUCK YOU ASSHOLES"
Grassley is a punk.
Up for election in 2010.
Obama should play some Chicago politics and give ole Chuck a call and tell him that he'll make it his mission in life that Grassley never gets re-elected if he doesn't play ball.
I'm so happy the sanctity of marriage is as strong today as it was yesterday.
/
how many is a brazilian?
He's gonna get so shivved in court.
I will bathe in the pain of this asshole as if they were magic waters.
"I had a Costa Rican coffee millionaire's son for a boyfriend once."
can i have his number?
yeah most benefits from employers are taxed.
it make helathcare more expensive for poor people, the unemployed and those without plans.
You can have a Peruvian llama.
Stunt Woman
Make it a dozen and I can start a ranch like all the rest around here.
This is not often stated (well, I haven't seen it at all) but the failed Clinton plan had local regional providers who wouldn't have been able to turn people down.
Big deal. We've got that in NJ now. The question is, what are the benefits that those last-resort providers offer, and what do the plans cost?
they are talking about TAXING the benefits you get from your employer
That was McFail's plan during the election.
can i have his number?
He's Googleable.
But I'm not linking here.
Tim Howard, teh US keeper, is the man of the game.
Hmmmm. Maybe that is why the Repukes go to church: to meet hot, sexy Christian Ladies
Nothing like pew sex.
So, let's take stock...
What was the "exotic" part?
Iran’s ethnic Azeri community numbers roughly 15-20 million, or almost a quarter of the country’s overall population. Most Azeris harbor deep feelings of resentment toward Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s administration in Tehran, and they are believed to have voted strongly for the aggrieved presidential challenger, Mir Hussein Mousavi, who is himself an Azeri from Tabriz. Even so, most Azeris remain unwilling to take an active part in the continuing battle for control of Iran’s social and economic agenda.
Mousavi’s lackluster record on promoting civil rights for minority groups in Iran is the main reason why many Azeris are currently sitting on the sidelines. Iranian Azeris see little to gain from getting involved. Regardless of the outcome of the power struggle in Tehran and Qom, few Azeris expect that their quality of life will improve significantly.
Yashar Hakkakpour, spokesperson for the Association for the Defense of Azerbaijani Political Prisoners in Iran, an unofficial organization based in Tabriz, explains that Azeri activists see no advantage to be gained from pushing for Mousavi, or opposing Ahmadinejad.
http://www.eurasianet.org/
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who aid anything about exotic?
I sent Baucus an email, a fax, a letter and I phoned a few months back when he said single payer was off the table.
I emailed my (unelected) Senator Bennet twice on hte public option over the last couple weeks, I finally got a reply, thanking me for writing to inform him of my opposition to the Employee Free Choice Act (Which I a) support and b) never contacted his office about). Then today I got a fund-raising plea from Mark Udall for Bennet's re-election.
not good timing
I had a Costa Rican coffee millionaire's son for a boyfriend once.
Echidne
Echidne's life is infinitely more exciting than mine.
You do realize that you Americans are exotic to me?
Whatever Obama's actual position on this is he better show some Leadership pretty damn soon - this "let's wait and see what Congress does" sucks ass. He was elected to *tell* Congress what to do and let them defy him at their peril.
Unlike Chimpy (who they couldn't find it in themselves to oppose) Obama actually has the public behind him.
Where's rootless-e to explain to me again why that's just ridiculous?
You do realize that you Americans are exotic to me?
Echidne
I'm assuming that's Polite Finnish for "retarded."
they are talking about TAXING the benefits you get from your employer.
Wasn't that part of McCain's plan?
Okay, I really have to go get something done. I'm going to continue to hope that our Congresslizards will do the right thing on health care, but I'm not holding my breath.
But here's a parting thought on Sanford. My gut is telling me he's lying. I just have a feeling there is no Argentine girlfriend and that lie is a cover for something much kinkier and more potentially damaging. The more I think about the presser, the more phony it seems to me. The storyline was so pat. The "I'm going to tell you more than you wanted to know" line has cover story written all over it.
I'm expecting somebody is going to try to track down Ms. Argentina. I'll be surprised if they find her.
This is not often stated (well, I haven't seen it at all) but the failed Clinton plan had local regional providers who wouldn't have been able to turn people down.
Echidne
Oh, I remember that quite well. It was deemed to complicated, unworkable. People made fun of it. Oh well.
BTW-Don't kid yourselves. We'll all vote for Obama again no matter what kind of plan is devised. We won't have any choice. Shit, I give it a week before we'll all defending whatever halfassed plan they come up with, even it it doesn't include a public option. We'll suck it up and act like adults. Can't let the perfect be the enemy of good, donchaknow.
Someone should send Sanford one of those t-shirts that Johnny Dep was wearing in Once Upon A Time In Mexico. It says "I'm with stupid", with an arrow pointing down to the crotch.
You do realize that you Americans are exotic to me?
Echidne
I'm assuming that's Polite Finnish for "retarded."
Gummo
Bless our hearts.
Medicare and SS Tax has remained unchanged since 1990.
SS for EE and ER 6.2%
Medicare for EE and ER 1.45%
How 'bout a psycho supermodel? I know where you can pick one up for cheap.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | 06.24.09 - 3:54 pm
If you mean mimi, I think the penis might be off-putting for some folks taste.
Libby, now relocated
So, Ms. Argentina will turn out to be Mr. Argentina? That was my bet.
I'm assuming that's Polite Finnish for "retarded."
Gummo
Not necessarily. 
Wolf teeth, mainly.
You do realize that you Americans are exotic to me? Echidne
I thought we were a source of exogenous heat.
You do realize that you Americans are exotic to me?
Curse this exotic African-American beauty!
I'm expecting somebody is going to try to track down Ms. Argentina. I'll be surprised if they find her.
Libby, now relocated
I'd be surprised if she's not comparing interview deals right now.
When Nursultan Nazarbayev took charge of Soviet Kazakhstan 20 years ago, he could scarcely have imagined that two years later he would be running his own country, and less that two decades later he would still be at the helm of an energy-rich state.
Nazarbayev’s rule is far from over, but the 20th anniversary of his ascendancy to power as first secretary of Kazakhstan’s Communist Party on June 22 gives pause for thought about his record. To many compatriots he is a national hero, the father of the nation who forged a coherent state out of disparate ethnic groups and an economic success story out of a land that had independence foisted on it as the Soviet Union collapsed. To others he is an autocrat who has overseen the transition to a get-rich-quick kleptocracy.
http://www.eurasianet.org/
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Well..at least Sanford didn't lie about it! LOL
about 20 min to go and the US are still leading Spain 1-0!
Finns are polite?
I'm expecting somebody is going to try to track down Ms. Argentina. I'll be surprised if they find her.
Libby, now relocated
You're right to be skeptical, but I think it is exactly as he said.
How 'bout a psycho supermodel? I know where you can pick one up for cheap.
I'm not 95 yet, so I know I'm not her type.
about 20 min to go and the US are still leading Spain 1-0!
The Old Man From Scene 24
Shhh! You'll jinx us!
Gov. Mark Sanford (D)
Fox is beyong even being a joke these days.
How 'bout a psycho supermodel? I know where you can pick one up for cheap.
If you mean mimi, I think the penis might be off-putting for some folks taste.
heh...heh...heh...
A wella wella talk about the mow
well the mow's the mow
m-m-m-mow-mowmow m-m-mowmowmow
Finns are polite?
No. I am, thought. I have two gears: Polite mouse. And Killer Snake.
I'm expecting somebody is going to try to track down Ms. Argentina. I'll be surprised if they find her.
Libb
Sheeyit, guaranteed that several people in South Carolina know her. Sanford said as much.
"He's Googleable."
i'd google him right up. it's taken me 48 years to learn that i pretty much spend my days sucking the wealthy's cock for very little money. i might as well suck it for a lot of money.
plus, i love coffee.
they can agree with, but than that of course
than? or then?
But here's a parting thought on Sanford. My gut is telling me he's lying. I just have a feeling there is no Argentine girlfriend and that lie is a cover for something much kinkier and more potentially damaging.
Because a girlfriend who lives in Canada and that's why you never met her is too easy to disprove?
I'm expecting somebody is going to try to track down Ms. Argentina. I'll be surprised if they find her.
Libby, now relocated
I'd be surprised if she's not comparing interview deals right now.
doncjesuis, Tina Fey fan
Playboy's Mistresses of the Southern governors edition on newstands July 1, 2009.
that lie is a cover for something much kinkier and more potentially damaging.
Looking at the guy, I'm just not sure he's imaginative enough for that.
From the BBC liveblog:
2056: We have 20 minutes plus stoppage time left in Bloemfontein and Spain are on the brink of losing their 35-match unbeaten streak, to USA of all countries. Incredible. Still 1-0.
Gov. Mark Sanford (D)
The Old Man From Scene 24
Who called this one? Somebody this morning said this was going to happen.
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Gov. Mark Sanford (D)
The Old Man From Scene 24
Who called this one? Somebody this morning said this was going to happen.
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Meander
Looking at the guy, I'm just not sure he's imaginative enough for that.
Cf. Haggard, Ted.
" a psycho supermodel"
Redundant.
plus, i love coffee.
Yes, he was great that way. I got packages of the world's best coffee.
Looking at the guy, I'm just not sure he's imaginative enough for that. - doncjesuis
Never underestimate an Episcopalian.
My gut is telling me he's lying.
Agree.
At first, I thought Sanford was snatched. Now, I find out he was going after snatch!
Who called this one? Somebody this morning said this was going to happen.
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Meander
The one, the only, Certified Mutant Enemy
(we are not worthy, we are not worthy)
Acts of violence in Baharestan Square
I have two gears: Polite mouse. And Killer Snake.
Echidne
Echidne is made of ten kinds of awesome.
My gut is telling me he's lying. I just have a feeling there is no Argentine girlfriend and that lie is a cover for something much kinkier and more potentially damaging
he supports a public option?
Who called this one? Somebody this morning said this was going to happen.
Certified Mutant Enemy.
mwah doncjesuis.
I should find you a Costa Rican coffee millionairess.
US GOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAALLLLL
L.O.L.
Read it and weep, Governor Sanford. It's in South Carolina's Code of Laws, Title 16--Crimes and Offenses, Chapter 15 "Offenses Against Morality and Decency"
SECTION 16-15-60. Adultery or fornication.
Any man or woman who shall be guilty of the crime of adultery or fornication shall be liable to indictment and, on conviction, shall be severally punished by a fine of not less than one hundred dollars nor more than five hundred dollars or imprisonment for not less than six months nor more than one year or by both fine and imprisonment, at the discretion of the court.
SECTION 16-15-70. "Adultery" defined.
"Adultery" is the living together and carnal intercourse with each other or habitual carnal intercourse with each other without living together of a man and woman when either is lawfully married to some other person.
Well, well, well. Governor Mark Sanford, a publicly admitted adulterer. Six months to a year in prison? Might be plenty of that "alone time" you seem to need to refresh yourself.
OUT TO C
Tough week for Capitol Hill the C Street group, the bible fellowship and group house that both Gov. Sanford and Sen. Ensign belong to.
--Josh Marshall
I'm betting more than one member is scrubbing his email and cell phone tonight.
SANFORD AND MISTRESS 2012
"Moreover, a draft Sanford for president website spells this out:
Mark Sanford is also much more than a fiscal conservative. He supports banning partial-birth abortions and also voted for a bill that would make it a federal crime to transport a minor across state lines for the purpose of getting an abortion. Mark Sanford is against gay marriage and defines marriage as one man and one woman. He is also against letting gay couple adopt children."
A Brand New Day -- Yea, Verily, Morning in America!
US 2 Spain 0
And these guys are number one in the world!
Oh Noes! Sanford is FuckeD!
US GOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAALLLLL
Holy crap!
The Dems negotiating strategy: "If we give you the loaf, can we agree to share the heel?"
Mark Sanford is against gay marriage and defines marriage as one man and one woman.
But fucking a mistress in Argentina . . . Priceless!
I should find you a Costa Rican coffee millionairess.
Echidne
At the very least, I would not cheat on her with a dear dear friend from Argentina.
Chi Dyke says she has a rich cowboy for me.
I should find you a Costa Rican coffee millionairess.
I had a girlfriend in college who later married the son of a Brazilian rubber baron -- and, no, he didn't make condoms.
I'm betting more than one member is scrubbing his email and cell phone tonight.
BlueinColorado
Sanford, meanwhile, is scrubbing the member.
Are we sure he was having an affair with a woman?
Mark Sanford is against gay marriage and defines marriage as one man and one woman.
But fucking a mistress in Argentina . . . Priceless!
Supreme Commander Thor
That part was scratched out after the first draft
I don't beileve that guy spent the last 5 days crying in Argentina.
I mean, I know I read he said that, but still, I don't believe it. I mean, if I had to write that dudes speach for today, I'd have put that in just so I could laugh when he said it.
RedState bozo:
Barack Obama and his people are some of the best political minds in the world. They have structured their administration to eliminate adversaries, even within their own party at the highest echelons, and maintain an aura of invincibility. They didn’t neglect the potential Republican challengers to the throne.
OBAMA IS COMING TO GET YOU!!!!!
Who called this one? Somebody this morning said this was going to happen.
Me
certain future interests are void if there is any possibility that the given interest MAY vest more than 21 years after the death of a measuring life.
My hope is that the Dem strategy will be to start by asking for something reasonable and then say fuck you and shove it down their throats anyway if none of them get aboard.
RedState bozo:
Barack Obama and his people are some of the best political minds in the world. They have structured their administration to eliminate adversaries, even within their own party at the highest echelons, and maintain an aura of invincibility. They didn’t neglect the potential Republican challengers to the throne.
Stunt Woman
Spain 0 - 2 USA
Holey Carp!
The US were very lucky to get this far (had to beat Egypt by 3 goals, and Italy had to lose by 3) and now they're beating SPAIN!
CME, I said it wuz you, you genius!
(bows)
(we are not worthy, we are not worthy)
Gov. Mark Sanford (D)
Who called this one? Somebody this morning said this was going to happen.
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jac,
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The one, the only, Certified Mutant Enemy
(we are not worthy, we are not worthy)
David Derbes
Certified Mutant Enemy.
Billy B
Bravo, jac. and bravo CME.
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They didn’t neglect the potential Republican challengers to the throne.
OBAMA IS COMING TO GET YOU!!!!!
Stunt Woman
Is that implying tha Obama nailed Sanford for Nailing the Argentenian Mistress?
So far, stellar goaltending by Tim Howard, and great central defense by Jay Demerit and Oguchi Onyewu.
No surprise: Sanford voted to impeach the Clenis.
OBAMA IS COMING TO GET YOU!!!!!
Wet your pants wingnut losers!
Shit, a free kick for Spain.
Saved by the irreplaceable Tim Howard!
Howard for SC Governor!
CME, I said it wuz you, you genius!
To be fair, it's happened before (Fox identifying a disgraced Republican as a Democrat).
OBAMA IS COMING TO GET YOU!!!!!
I certainly hope so.
Hey, at least Sanford can now claim to have foreign policy experience.
The US were very lucky to get this far (had to beat Egypt by 3 goals, and Italy had to lose by 3) and now they're beating SPAIN!
The Old Man From Scene 24
Finally! Somebody took my advice! The Zapaterrorist Menace will be crushed once and for all!
/John McCain
They have structured their administration to eliminate adversaries, even within their own party at the highest echelons, and maintain an aura of invincibility. They didn’t neglect the potential Republican challengers to the throne.
Seriously? The mysterious Argentine femme fatale is an Obamic agent? Kewl. Can't wait to see what he has in store for Huck and Mitt
No surprise: Sanford voted to impeach the Clenis.
The Clenis never abandoned his post, going missing for five days, unlike Sanford.
Clinton is different because Clinton LIED and Sanford just lied! er. . didnt lie!
er wait . . .
To be fair, it's happened before (Fox identifying a disgraced Republican as a Democrat).
Certified Mutant Enemy
Mr. Bond, we have a saying in Brooklyn. Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, but the third time is enemy action.
/auric goldfinger
Okay. I'm really leaving now, and I admit I could be wrong. But the feeling is really strong that there's more to this than a simple affair born at the Bible Study group. Odd isn't it really that his story is so similar to Ensign's?
It's not a stretch for me to think that he didn't come back right away because he was doing something worse and trying to figure out a less heinous sin to cop to.
Like I said. Just a feeling...
Is that implying tha Obama nailed Sanford for Nailing the Argentenian Mistress?
This is all a plot by Emanual. The GOP pays losers to troll here; he's paying people to troll the GOP. "Okay, this we you're a model from Argentina . . .."
BARACK OBAMA STUCK MARK SANFORD'S PENIS INTO BUENOS AIRES BARBIE!!1!!!
Saved by the irreplaceable Tim Howard!
Howard for SC Governor!
Howard was in goal, manning his post.
Unlike a certain SC governor.
Another brilliant save by Howard!!
Hey, at least Sanford can now claim to have foreign policy experience
I think you mean experience in foreign affairs.
Sanford just lied...and stole a government vehicle.
Hey, at least Sanford can now claim to have foreign pubic experience.
fyt
The most pathetic thing about goony Repukkes is that they simply REFUSE to acknowledge that they themselves made it nearly impossible for Americans to shrug off these mundane infidelities by their politicians.
So now they can suck it.
Mr. Bond, we have a saying in Brooklyn. Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, but the third time is enemy action.
I actually think it's a policy at Fox News to identify disgraced Republicans as Democrats...
Howard was in goal, manning his post.
Unlike a certain SC governor.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
Which is why he'd be a stellar replacement!
ARACK OBAMA STUCK MARK SANFORD'S PENIS INTO BUENOS AIRES BARBIE!!1!!!
jac, satyrical
It's the Imperius Curse! Obama is Voldem
/slumps over keyboard
Notable freshmen of 1994
George W. Bush
Bill Frist
John Shadegg
Saxby Chambliss
Sam Brownback
Robert Ehrlich
John Ensign
George Pataki
Tom Coburn
Mark Sanford
Lindsey Graham
Joe Scarborough
Fred Thompson
Quite the lineup!
I actually think it's a policy at Fox News to identify disgraced Republicans as Democrats...
Down in Hell, Goebbels is laughing in delight at the antics of his apprentice, Roger Ailes.
I think you mean experience in foreign affairs.
Much better wording. Bravo.
Sanford just lied...and stole a government vehicle.
cosmosis the shodan
HOW CAN YOU CALL MARK SANFORD A FISCAL CONSERVATIVE? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH IT COSTS TO PARK AT AN AIRPORT FOR A WEEK? A TAXI WOULD BE MUCH CHEAPER!!!1!
Donovan all over the field, dropping back to defend...
So now they can suck it.
Stunty distills away all the bullshit.
Well sooner or later, the Democrats will realize that all the Republicans are dead and stop cowering in their bunker. I hope.
I don't know why the Dems never learn this lesson. If you start with the compromise position, you will and up compromising on that.
the same could be said for netroots. Why not insist on Medicare for All, HR 676, and get them to beg us to accept a strong public option instead.
but to answer your question, it is because our worthless Senate Dems don't care about doing something for the country, they just want a deal that lets them pretend that they have done something.
Quite the lineup!
fred
I feel dirty just seeing all those names together.
Well sooner or later, the Democrats will realize that all the Republicans are dead and stop cowering in their bunker. I hope.
Can powder become too dry?
Foreign policy, foreign pussy, what's a few letters?
Donovan all over the field, dropping back to defend...
DJ
Landon Donovan has been as good as Mia Hamm, and I do not say that lightly.
Well sooner or later, the Democrats will realize that all the Republicans are dead and stop cowering in their bunker. I hope.
Ya think? My guess is that new people need to be voted in for that to happen.
Ha!!! I was out gettin' some tail, not traipsin' the Appalachian Trail.
I needed me some of that spicey Argentinian cootchie.
I missed the Sanford thread. Damn, he was having an affair. Who could have guessed?
Can powder become too dry?
Someone needs to do the right thing and frag Reid.
In Sanford's defense, at least he didn't kill an intern like Joey the Scar.
I think you mean experience in foreign affairs.
Toonscribe: domestic shorthair
(golf clap)
Ya think? My guess is that new people need to be voted in for that to happen.
What E says
How's that for some of that Republican Family Values.....
Actually Sanford went to Paraguay to jerk off with Bush 43.
An affair? Oh. noes.
the important thing is that Sanford didnt sully teh august image of the SC Gov.
are there any people that voted to impeach clinton that haven't had affairs?
Oh shit! A red card for US! So once again we have to play a man down!!
Ridiculous!
I needed me some of that spicey southamerican tail!!!!
Well, it rained here for about 30 seconds.
I wonder how much of the "stimulus money" Sanford took with him? It would be irresponsible not to speculate.
Straight red card to Michael Bradley. US down to 10 men.
are there any people that voted to impeach clinton that haven't had affairs?
The list is dwindling...
I missed the Sanford thread. Damn, he was having an affair. Who could have guessed?
Ralphie
Marcellina and I called this one about five minutes after the story broke on Monday.
Ain't but one thing makes a man act this crazy - thinking with the little head.
Child 1- I want all the cake!
Child 2- No, that's not fair, we should split the cake 50/50.
Child 1- NOOOO! I want it all.
Child 2- 50/50 would be fair.
Adult - Kids, you need to learn how to compromise. Here, you take three quarters of the cake, and you can have one quarter.
Echidne : I should find you a Costa Rican coffee millionairess.
Please, and thank you. I will send you coffee.
~
Ralphie : I missed the Sanford thread. Damn, he was having an affair. Who could have guessed?
Damn near every one here. And by the way, Daily Show writers - some of our best work is in that thread.
~
Pawlenty will be the Puke candidate in '12.
Raise your hand if you think that dude was actually in Argentina cuz of a dear dear friend he'd been boinking.
are there any people that voted to impeach clinton that haven't had affairs?
Yes, Lindsey?
I apologize to my wife and family, but you know ....... fuck them.
Oh shit! A red card for US! So once again we have to play a man down!!
Ridiculous!
Don't the officials recognize American exceptionalism?
Ware the killer rabbits of doom!
http://www.chicagotribune.com/
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STFU Buttle
I wonder how much of the "stimulus money" Sanford took with him? It would be irresponsible not to speculate.
I've already speculated. Probably enough for Viagra and blow and heavy drink.
CME, there have been plenty of hard Spanish fouls on us. They haven't had a single yellow card, OK?
OK, Spain just got a yellow. In minute 87.
that Red Card really sucks, good thing there's not much time left.
Make that minute 89. US is gonna win this!
The use of planted questioners is a no-no at presidential news conferences, because it sends a message to the world--Iran included--that the American press isn't as free as advertised. But yesterday wasn't so much a news conference as it was a taping of a new daytime drama, "The Obama Show."
How dare Sanford have an affair with a Spanish-Speaking mistress? Shouldn't it have been with and English-Only mistress?
Yes, Lindsey?
Ralphie
Lindsey has had LOTS of sinful, scandalous affairs.
In Canada.
Correct if you guessed enough for Viagra a blowjob and heavy drink.
I wonder if my four kids are actually mine. They may be Hispanic.
Gov. Sanford.
Carmen Miranda - South American Way
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e...h?
v=eDwQN4UeF8E
~
Three mins of stoppage time.
is this soccer (or futbol) that you guys are talking about?
Howard just risked his neck, no kidding, to smother that one.
Mark Sanford gets laid.
Eschaton is outraged.
meh.
doesnt Argentina have a high % of people of european decent?
i suppose i could look it up.
is this soccer (or futbol) that you guys are talking about?
Yes. The US is beating Spain (the best team in the world right now) 2-0 with only 3 minutes of extra time left.
Ol' Lindsey likes a good blowjob, just like any guy, except he likes to give them.
Eschaton is outraged.
You have clearly not been paying attention.
god knows the republicans complained loud and long about planted questioners at bush press conferences, right heh?
June 24, 2009 - 15:23 ET by slickwillie2001
Now seriously, this has unfolded very strangely. From the moment he left his office, this story was pumped into the liberal media. From the beginning I asked myself, why is this a story? Ask yourself why?
I am guessing that a democratic operation is underway on any Republican possible nominee for 2012. I suggest that people are being followed, that federal employees are illegally accessing online passport and other information, and informers are in place. I have no evidence, this is pure speculation.
Now that Pellicano's plumbers are out of business, does anyone know which company has taken over democratic party investigations of opponents? We are dealing with the Chicago Machine, which has moved lock, stock and barrel to Washington, DC, and now has unlimited resources to dig up dirt. Don't put anything past them. The woman may have even been a democratic party plant. If I can think this up, they can too, and because they are unbounded by any moral or legal restrictions, they will do anything that can be imagined.
Soccer/futbol depending on your choice of language. The beautiful game.
doesnt Argentina have a high % of people of european decent?
i suppose i could look it up.
euphronius
No.
There are no descendents of Europeans in South America.
ron | 06.24.09 - 4:22 pm
Obtuse much?
doesnt Argentina have a high % of people of european decent?
Yep. IIRC it's the highest percentage in South America.
Soccer. Confederations Cup. Used as a test event for the South African organizers in preparation for next year's World Cup.
The US has it!
Thirty seconds left. US still up 2-nil.
doesnt Argentina have a high % of people of european decent?
I don't know the numbers but yes. Lots of Italians and Germans.
What Mark Sanford did is inexcusable!
US WIN!
Ain't but one thing makes a man act this crazy - thinking with the little head.
Someone else also said that this AM-mighta been rmj.
Argentinian women make me look important. Look at me. (except my lawfully wedded wife and my four kids)
Gov. Sanford.
The US has it!
Attaturk
I'll get the penicillin.
USA Wins!
prediction: mark sanford is forced to resign in disgrace. 6 months later, Sanford, Gingrich, Delay & other disgraced rethugs go out on a reunion tour. Of course, even though they aren't elected officials anymore, get copious amounts of air time.
imho
I have no evidence, this is pure speculation.
USA! USA! USA!
"doesnt Argentina have a high % of people of european decent?"
white (mostly Spanish and Italian) 97%, mestizo (mixed white and Amerindian ancestry), Amerindian, or other non-white groups 3%
https://www.cia.gov/library/publi...ok/geos/
AR.html
Spain has not lost a match in three years. They have won 35 in a row.
And we beat 'em.
Not half bad, Team US!
Sanford Resigns Post As Chairman Of Republican Goatlover's Association
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I should have stayed there.
Gov. Sanford
Obtuse much?
Apprentice to Darth Holden | 06.24.09 - 4:23 pm | #
Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrpp.
There are no descendents of Europeans in South America.
jac, satyrical | 06.24.09 - 4:23 pm | #
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I c wut u did thar
Spain has not lost a match in three years. They have won 35 in a row.
And we beat 'em.
Not half bad, Team US!
Obviously, it was Obama's doing.
prediction: mark sanford is forced to resign in disgrace. 6 months later, Sanford, Gingrich, Delay & other disgraced rethugs go out on a reunion tour. Of course, even though they aren't elected officials anymore, get copious amounts of air time.
Sanford's career as an "acknowledged expert" on the MSM blabfests is ahead of him.
Villago delenda est.
I am guessing that a democratic operation is underway on any Republican possible nominee for 2012. I suggest that people are being followed, that federal employees are illegally accessing online passport and other information, and informers are in place. I have no evidence, this is pure speculation.
But thats the way us republicans play it...
Spain has not lost a match in three years. They have won 35 in a row.
And we beat 'em.
Not half bad, Team US!
David Derbes
What a day! yay for them!
Meanwhile there are news reports he is getting hammered back home in places like Mousilla and Helena. If they get it, why the fuck can't he.
That's why he is now saying, aw, should have included single payer. To cover his ass, however weakly. The thing is that the Dems know they can afford to screw the citizens on this one. Who the hell else are we going to vote for, Republicans?
Spain has not lost a match in three years. They have won 35 in a row.
And we beat 'em.
Not half bad, Team US!
It's not like it was a real sport. [runs away]
PS - just kidding
She's hot, my wife is not.
Gov. Sanford
Fuck Gov. Stanford. Every time some repub exposes their hypocrisy the Reapers have to stir up another hornets nest of distractions.
That party is a walking, talking soap opera. No wonder nothing ever gets done.
Argentina was an unofficial colony of the British
we 'advised' them and ran the railways
its why the Argentinians play rugby, polo and football of course
If you want to have an affair, and you're a Republican in office--hell, even if you're a Democrat, maybe you should divorce your wife/husband before you start the affair.
It's obviously all Clinton's fault. He started it and the temptation was just too great for the Republicans...
That and gay marriage has destroyed the god-fearing, bible-humping, rapturites.
97%????
HOLY CRAP thats so . . . .pure
We are dealing with the Chicago Machine, which has moved lock, stock and barrel to Washington, DC, and now has unlimited resources to dig up dirt. Don't put anything past them. The woman may have even been a democratic party plant. If I can think this up, they can too, and because they are unbounded by any moral or legal restrictions, they will do anything that can be imagined.
Rethug blog comment LOL
Aren't these the same people who always said if you've done nothing wrong, you shouldn't mind the scrutiny?
Boy the U.S. Soccer team looked AWFUL in the first two games, and now their in the finals of a major cup tourney.
We're No. 9 or so, We're No. 9 or so!!!
Sanford Resigns Post As Chairman Of Republican Goatlover's Association
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tacitus volt bear
If this smearing of teh goats continues, you'll be talking to our attorneys.
I am guessing that a democratic operation is underway on any Republican possible nominee for 2012. I suggest that people are being followed, that federal employees are illegally accessing online passport and other information, and informers are in place. I have no evidence, this is pure speculation.
These motherfuckers project like the Octoplex down at the mall.
If you want to have an affair, and you're a Republican in office--hell, even if you're a Democrat, maybe you should divorce your wife/husband before you start the affair.
mer
That would leave you open to the calls of hypocrisy and shit.
Better to cheat.
The Spanish team is still one who could easily win the World Cup. But, especially after the first two wretched games, the US has a lot to be happy about.
it was the same with Egypt
we didn't run it directly but we supplied the King with 'advisers' and made sure it served our interests
I think this Mark Sanford thing is being overplayed that he can still be an effective candidate. He can't even keep his dick in the United States.
"HOLY CRAP thats so . . . .pure"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/ameri...icas/
215939.stm
Meanwhile there are news reports he is getting hammered back home in places like Mousilla and Helena. If they get it, why the fuck can't he.
That's why he is now saying, aw, should have included single payer. To cover his ass, however weakly.
Wasn't AFSCME going to organize a protest at DiFi's office? anybody know how that turned out?
We are dealing with the Chicago Machine, which has moved lock, stock and barrel to Washington, DC, and now has unlimited resources to dig up dirt.
This is what one of my friends said: Obama is Chicago Machine and therefore he's crooked.
And McStain was as pure as Argentinian snow.
doesnt Argentina have a high % of people of european decent?
I knew an Argentine who mother was English, He went to an Ag school in the midwest I once asked if he any trouble with English. He said he spoke better English than the students and faculty.
"She's hot, my wife is not.
Gov. Sanford"
--Ralphie
Really, as someone mentioned, took six days to break it off. (Did he break it off, I'm not clear on that.)
I loved my wife.
Gov. Sanford.
we didn't run it directly but we supplied the King with 'advisers' and made sure it served our interests
Ok, so the first goal was lucky but the other two were genuine. Oh wait you're not talking about US v Egypt last Sunday are you?
Really, as someone mentioned, took six days to break it off. (Did he break it off, I'm not clear on that.)
mer
Neither is Mark Stanford.
Really, as someone mentioned, took six days to break it off. (Did he break it off, I'm not clear on that.)
Ack can we please stop talking about broken penises?
(Did he break it off, I'm not clear on that.)
A broken heart is worse than a broken penis.
We are dealing with the Chicago Machine, which has moved lock, stock and barrel to Washington, DC, and now has unlimited resources to dig up dirt. Don't put anything past them. The woman may have even been a democratic party plant. If I can think this up, they can too, and because they are unbounded by any moral or legal restrictions, they will do anything that can be imagined.
Rethug blog comment LOL
Eat your heart out.
Marcellina, your photos are a blast!
Really, as someone mentioned, took six days to break it off. (Did he break it off, I'm not clear on that.)
mer
If he didn't, Mrs. Sanford will.
Mark Sanford ain't shit. Talk to me when the Argentinian girlfriend gives birth to his child while he's running for president and his wife is dying of cancer.
Amateur.
Why didn't he just resign if that was his plan anyway? Why say all that embarassing stuff on tv?
and because they are unbounded by any moral or legal restrictions, they will do anything that can be imagined.
If you want to have an affair, and you're a Republican in office--hell, even if you're a Democrat, maybe you should divorce your wife/husband before you start the affair.
mer
Indeed. Except, philandering pols don't have even that small amount of integrity. Plus, they know that if they divorce, they won't get reelected. So they all just cheat and hope no one finds out. Going awol to screw a dear dear friend in Argentina is beyond typical philandering politician stupidity, though.
rapturites.
ellroon
I'm stealing that one.
/xMime Troll
Coke to the man from scene 24
Dear God! NOT another broken penis thread!!1!!
Thanks ellroon! I hope the actual ones the photographer took come out flattering.
Goobenor Sanford and Eternal Hellfire.
Perfect together.
Hypocritical fuck that he is.
the DEMS FORCED sanford to have SEX WITH ANOTHER woman to SATISFY OBAMA's WILL TO POWERR
rapturites.
ellroon
I'm stealing that one.
/xMime Troll
rMatey
On the net, everything is yours....
John Edwards | 06.24.09 - 4:30 pm
Did you every lie to your staff and skip the country when you had executive responsiblities to be with your mistress, if only to have a cuppa and talk?
Didn't think so.
i'm sure this is old news to those who've been on the threads today, but:
On Fox, Mark Sanford "(D)" holds press conference
omfg.
someone said this, facetiously i thought, in a comment early this morning.
simels undoubtedly regrets the error.
http://mediamatters.org/blog/200...og/
200906240026
Landon Donovan and Tim Howard are the reason why we won this thing.
Brilliant work, guys!
They're calling this one of the important wins in US soccer history.
The woman may have even been a democratic party plant.
losers!
im sure this has been pointed out, but he was like busy boinking on father's day? this is why he wanted more time away from his family?
Anacani - South American Way
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v...h?
v=vQUcgih5l1Q
I'd never seen her before!
~
I am guessing that a democratic operation is underway on any Republican possible nominee for 2012. I suggest that people are being followed, that federal employees are illegally accessing online passport and other information, and informers are in place. I have no evidence, this is pure speculation.
Pure crazy - Wasn't Dems who told on him when he ran off for a week. No Dem has so much as touched this guy.
Nope - nothing but Thug lies and hypocrisy here.
~
I only saw snips of his presser but that was too much. He should have said "I'm an asshole" and shut up.
.
bye for now
Really, as someone mentioned, took six days to break it off. (Did he break it off, I'm not clear on that.)
I'm not even a man, but Ouch!
Appropo of nothing, CNN's Suzanne Malveaux needs to either wear slacks or keep her legs closed at the press conferences.
DD-- I was following the BBC and ESPN internet feeds and both had great things to say about Oguchi Onyewu's defense.
The woman may have even been a democratic party plant.
Lets not give Hannity, Limbaugh, etc. talking points...
im sure this has been pointed out, but he was like busy boinking on father's day? this is why he wanted more time away from his family?
pretzel
I don't know... kinda consistent with the Republican concept of Father's Day...
doesnt Argentina have a high % of people of european decent?
i generally find that any individual south american will tell you confidentially that all their ancestors came directly from italy
but don't tell the others...
.
Appropo of nothing, CNN's Suzanne Malveaux needs to either wear slacks or keep her legs closed at the press conferences.
WHAT? did i miss something interesting?
The woman may have even been a democratic party plant.
Lets not give Hannity, Limbaugh, etc. talking points...
Certified Mutant Enemy
SANFORD FUCKED PLANTS????
I actually thought he was at Fort Sumter. Loading his bullets. He was loading something else.
Mrs Sanford is all for single payer. She just told her divorce lawyer to make sure the single fuck pays dearly.
DD-- I was following the BBC and ESPN internet feeds and both had great things to say about Oguchi Onyewu's defense.
Gromit
No question that the defense was very strong. My apologies for slighting Onyewu.
annie!
Let's skip the dueling adulteries bit.
.
Appropo of nothing, CNN's Suzanne Malveaux needs to either wear slacks or keep her legs closed at the press conferences.
Please don't tell me I missed some Sharon Stone in "Basic Instinct" action...
The woman may have even been a democratic party plant.
Lets not give Hannity, Limbaugh, etc. talking points...
Certified Mutant Enemy
She forced Sanford to have an affair, I suppose.
Sounds like Obama's minions were very perceptive to have laid that bible class trap for Sanford a year or two ago. Talk about planning your chess moves far ahead.
im sure this has been pointed out, but he was like busy boinking on father's day? this is why he wanted more time away from his family?
pretzel
He demonstrated his commitment to reconciling with his wife by ditching the family on Father's Day weekend and shacking up for a week with Buenos Aires Barbie.
Makes total sense.
(My speculation is he was trying to goad her into filing for divorce by doing something so outrageously disrespectful.)
The woman may have even been a democratic party plant. If I can think this up, they can too, and because they are unbounded by any moral or legal restrictions, they will do anything that can be imagined.
I was forced to put my penis in various orifices
-Gov Sanford
"I am guessing that a democratic operation is underway on any Republican possible nominee for 2012"
Yea, it would be real funny if Obama used all those powers Bush took for himself to spy on Republicans. Might make you trolls see Chimpy for the sack of shit he was.
Saying she is a dear, dear friend is way more insulting to the wife than saying she was just some floozie you met while you were drunk, or going to a hooker, imo.
I give the Very-Soon-To-Be-EX-Mrs. Sanford points for being a responsible adult, shivving him with that awesome comment, and resisting the Stepford Goopette Borg pull to dye her hair blonde.
They had a lot of Nazis in Argentina too....
Heh Sanford was hanging out with his MISTRESS's KIDS OK?
he is NOT A MONSTER!
"They had this subliminal motivation to get rid of the faces," said Elman, who questions whether "we're designed by nature to invest all the resources into healthy-looking kids."
These things piss me off so much. The study, if it shows anything at (unlikely), shows that female teenage college freshman at Whatever Bumfuck U conducted the study, are more likely to look away than their male, "cool! Deformities!" counterparts.
Agreed, Moe.
What is it with this trend where research design =
a) observe individual or group behavior, then
b) someone other than individual(s) in "a)"
interpret/explain/make attributions about "why"
Anyone else see the problem with that?
If "science" is that cynical about the accuracy or truthfulness of self-report, then why is the scientist's explanation any better? What's wrong with using qualitative research? Oh right, that takes more time and effort...
This defective faces study is junk science, apparently anchored in eugenics.
First we heard it was the Appalachian trail. Now we find out it was some Appalachian tail.
Might make you trolls see Chimpy for the sack of shit he was.
Good luck with that.
If Argentina would have come to the South during the war, they would have won. Confederate flags for everybody. Well, almost everybody.
Appropo of nothing, CNN's Suzanne Malveaux needs to either wear slacks or keep her legs closed at the press conferences.
ErinPDX
* perk *
Sounds like Obama's minions were very perceptive to have laid that bible class trap for Sanford a year or two ago. Talk about planning your chess moves far ahead.
Gromit
In fact I think the beginning was eight years ago, if I heard it correctly. Didn't get physical till a year ago.
Some advanced eleven dimensional chess those Chicago guys play...
u gots teh hawts for her, Doncjesususus?
I hope the actual ones the photographer took come out flattering.
Marcellina
With such great material to work with, how could they not?
mimi!
Anyone tries to break up with me over six days, and he leaves sans penis.
I have teeth, and I know how to use them.
Seriously. Breaking up must be clean, quick, and OVER.
Unless it's not really over.
Colbert's writers are no doubt in a frenzy at this moment.
And I am eagerly counting down to tonights show
Mrs. Sanford should take every nickel from him.
I've heard that Argentina is has a large Lizard People population.
Mimi and annie. Gotta go.
Sounds like Obama's minions were very perceptive to have laid that bible class trap for Sanford a year or two ago. Talk about planning your chess moves far ahead.
Gromit
That's nothing -- Obama was planning his dictatorial takeover of the USofA as a zygote, when he arranged the great birth certificate scam from the womb....
Saying she is a dear, dear friend is way more insulting to the wife than saying she was just some floozie you met while you were drunk, or going to a hooker, imo.
"Dear friend" may be a feeble attempt to stall off her going public. "Floozie" will guarantee it, though.
Bye, all.
In fact I think the beginning was eight years ago, if I heard it correctly. Didn't get physical till a year ago.
And his wife found out 5 months ago.
And his Presidential campaign ended today.
Hey, I tried to break it off, I was giving it to her so damned hard!
Appropo of nothing, CNN's Suzanne Malveaux needs to either wear slacks or keep her legs closed at the press conferences.
WHAT? did i miss something interesting?
TKK
What happened? And yes it's apropos.
~
sheetaroni
That's nothing -- Obama was planning his dictatorial takeover of the USofA as a zygote, when he arranged the great birth certificate scam from the womb....
Plot points lifted from Warcraft lore...
It's super insulting to his wife to say that he's been crying for 5 days while breaking up with a dear dear friend he's been banging over the last year. And then to say his wife knew about it for the last 5 months....what the fuck is wrong with this guy? He must be high.
Breaking up must be clean, quick, and OVER.
Unless it's not really over.
Vicki
There's your answer. He didn't go down to break up with her.
If Argentina would have come to the South during the war, they would have won. Confederate flags for everybody. Well, almost everybody.
IIRC it is Brazil that had a colony founded by ex-Confederates after the Civil War.
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Wayne Allyn Root (libertarian) on Faux,
"Sanford's a strange one"
WHAT? did i miss something interesting?
TKK
my sick mind noticed this yesterday when i saw her question on olbermann
Appropo of nothing, CNN's Suzanne Malveaux needs to either wear slacks or keep her legs closed at the press conferences.
Or learn how to use a trimmer.
and of course Yicky's way is the only way. She is the harbinger of how things must be done...
Did you every lie to your staff and skip the country when you had executive responsiblities to be with your mistress, if only to have a cuppa and talk?
Didn't think so.
Apprentice to Darth Holden | 06.24.09 - 4:32 pm | #
Of course not.
I just had a baby with my girlfriend while I was running for president and my wife was dying of cancer.
Who do you think I am!?
I don't know why Atrios and fellow liberals never learn why Dem politicians never learn. It's not that Dem politicians are stupid; it's that they are servants of a corrupt system. They play us every single goddam time and we fall for it every goddam time. Again, it's not Dems and Republicans who are like Lucy and Charlie Brown with the football. It's Dem politicians and their sucker supporters.
Yeah, I'm sure Baucus is unable to sleep, he's so upset. No one could have predicted yadda yadda.
"corportions are god's messengers"-blue dogs
I don't know why Atrios and fellow liberals never learn why Dem politicians never learn. It's not that Dem politicians are stupid; it's that they are servants of a corrupt system. They play us every single goddam time and we fall for it every goddam time. Again, it's not Dems and Republicans who are like Lucy and Charlie Brown with the football. It's Dem politicians and their sucker supporters.
I don't know why Atrios and fellow liberals never learn why Dem politicians never learn. It's not that Dem politicians are stupid; it's that they are servants of a corrupt system. They play us every single goddam time and we fall for it every goddam time. Again, it's not Dems and Republicans who are like Lucy and Charlie Brown with the football. It's Dem politicians and their sucker supporters.
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