I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
So much for overnight! 
And sdf (Stu) gets a well-deserved hat tip.
rounding third
Reading the post ...
Remember, life is only valuable until birth. After that, fuck 'em.
Seems shrill ...
The happy hour buzz is wearing off....
I must have strayed into a private comments thread...
I'm shocked that the Pentagon may have lied.
Nope, you're in the right place. 
I'm sure that Captain Queeg will be sure to fill us in on his ample military expertise to tell us how the story cannot be true, if the civilian leadership says it isn't.
No surprise at all.
I give this poor captain a week until his career is utterly fucked.
And all because chimpy and his merry band of assholes are fucking incompetents.
I must have strayed into a private comments thread...
U wanted doggies, so I gotz one:
http://plush-life.blogspot.com/2...bitty-
flvr.html
They're assholes.
I'm sure that Captain Queeg will be sure to fill us in on his ample military expertise to tell us how the story cannot be true, if the civilian leadership says it isn't.
I don't know anything about messboys eating strawberries.
Kingston just said that he, like Larry Craig, likes eating white meat.
I give this poor captain a week until his career is utterly fucked.
As long as the Captain in question doesn't reveal himself, he cannot be ratfucked.
I don't believe, that if found out, it would be his career that gets fucked.
Evening, all.
Been away since a while, i.e. Thursday.
Anything irksome going on I should know about?
U wanted doggies, so I gotz one:
Hope it's not hungry.
I am sure all those "moderate" pro-military Republicans are shocked, simply shocked, that the Pentagon is just as professional and apolitical as the US Attorneys are.
The Pentagon 'inserting itself into the civilian election process'? In AMerica? Who'd a thunk it?
Merciful heavens...
I'm really fucking appalled that the Bush shills are enabled by Warner. There's not one Republican that has an ounce of class.
I don't know anything about messboys eating strawberries.
I suspect Bushco does not use geometric logic.
As long as the Captain in question doesn't reveal himself, he cannot be ratfucked.
I don't believe, that if found out, it would be his career that gets fucked.
You don't know the vindictiveness of this bunch of crooks.
I guarantee you they're going to go on a witch hunt.
Anything irksome going on I should know about?
steve simels
Hmmm ... well, my governor is a tool.
And I heard Salman Rushdie speak here on campus tonight.
Other than that, not much.
Anything irksome going on I should know about?
Why is your buddy, trademark dave, killfiling everyone that disagrees with him?
Kinda lame, if you ask me...
I'm really fucking appalled that the Bush shills are enabled by Warner. There's not one Republican that has an ounce of class.
Not one.
I guarantee you they're going to go on a witch hunt.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?
What I meant was that he would be dead inside of a month.
If that Rove story about the pictures is true...
I don't believe, that if found out, it would be his career that gets fucked.
Perhaps, but it's that lingering cloud of a threat that keeps people from coming forward. They think they'll get chewed up and spat out, when in fact the first one who does it now might be a real hailed hero.
Of course, after the past 7 years, no one wants to take that first step.
hey steve--anything worth seeing?
Finally got around to 'Minority Report' this evening, which was well worth seeing and thinking about. And Spielberg's view of childhood is rather more complicated than I'd thought, between 'AI' and 'Minority Report'...
That would be just so unbelievable if the Dever Dem Covention rocked the house with Steam's old hit "Na na Hey Hey Kiss Him Goodbye".
The Pentagon 'inserting itself into the civilian election process'?
Ouch.
I'd like to have this entire administration and its enablers tried for treason.
Anything irksome going on I should know about?
I have become teh evil empire!
but Maddie and Ripley are still cute:
http://plush-life.blogspot.com/2...hy-
kittehs.html
Kinda lame, if you ask me...
Zap Rowsdower | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 12:01 am | #
What's killfile? Sounds like some censorship bullshit.
That would be just so unbelievable if the Dever Dem Covention rocked the house with Steam's old hit "Na na Hey Hey Kiss Him Goodbye".
MP |
Weird Al's "Than Spend Another Minute With You" would be nice.
Also, Ugly Kid Joe's "I Hate Everything About You"
an 24,000 more interrogation videos:
http://law.shu.edu/
administratio..._videotaped.htm
What's killfile? Sounds like some censorship bullshit.
It's like the Ignore function on some chatsites. Not censorship but a way for you not to read someone's comments.
4legz haz boobies on his website ..
http://gotspitchfork.blogspot.co...ly-
madness.html
What's killfile? Sounds like some censorship bullshit.
Jake in Milwaukee
Good troll control device
It's like the Ignore function on some chatsites. Not censorship but a way for you not to read someone's comments.
Echidne | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 12:04 am | #
Sounds like censorship to me. So what if trolls bother you? Close the window and rent a movie.
What I meant was that he would be dead inside of a month.
Ouch.
I think he's stateside.
The good thing is that the rank and file is pretty well pissed off at this point- maybe if they go after the captain, it will be the breaking point.
Oh, horray Snitchens will be on with Maher next week.
...how long before he flips off the crowd this time?
What's killfile? Sounds like some censorship bullshit.
Jake in Milwaukee
To use the killfile function you have to use Firefox as your browser. If you do not, you may obtain a copy at this URL:
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/
Once this program is installed, you will need to have an add-on program called GREASEMONKEY.
This program is available at this URL:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/...refox/addon/
748
Once you have installed this program you will then have to install KILLFILE. This program can be obtained at this URL:
http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/3218
Hope this helps.
What's killfile? Sounds like some censorship bullshit.
It's an application that you can put on your Firefox browser. It blocks comments from particular users.
4legz haz boobies on his website ..
http://gotspitchfork.blogspot.co...ly- madness.html
Doug Watts
REAGAN High School??????????
Oy!
killfile is like being at a bar and you just politely ignore the person at the next table who keeps interrupting your conversation ...
an 24,000 more interrogation videos:
http://law.shu.edu/ administratio..._videotaped.htm
1Watt, Hermit
That's a hell of a story.
When will it spread from Seton Hall to the rest of the world?
Expect this to be a major factor in this year's election campaign.
Does Josh believe McCain is going to attack Obama with this? It doesn't seem very smart to me, not that that matters.
Thanks DWD.
Sinf, danke schoen, though it is all very depressing.
But this is becoming a pattern in which political appointees at the Bush Pentagon volubly insert themselves into domestic political debate or even election campaigns.
Nobody could have predicted ...
REAGAN High School??????????
It's pronounced REEgan High School.
Not named after Ronnie Raygun
Oh, horray Snitchens will be on with Maher next week.
...how long before he flips off the crowd this time?
How many free drink tickets does he get before hopping on the stage?
Sounds like censorship to me. So what if trolls bother you? Close the window and rent a movie.
It doesn't stop anyone else from reading the comments, only the person who uses it. That's self-censorship if anything.
I don't use it, actually, though I have it.
Sounds like censorship to me. So what if trolls bother you? Close the window and rent a movie.
Jake in Milwaukee
That's what they want.
REAGAN High School??????????
Oy!
I don't think it's Ronald Reagan. It's been called that since the sixties.
Killfile isn't censorship exactly. I mean, you might read what I say and decide you want to censor it, but if you did you'd be a fuc
[SINFONIAN HAS BEEN CENSORED]
It's pronounced REEgan High School.
Not named after Ronnie Raygun
David (Austin Tx)
IIRC, that's the way St. Ronald of the Monster Deficit's name is SUPPOSED to be pronounced, but I guess it sounded too Irish for all the WASPs he was trying to suck up to.
It doesn't stop anyone else from reading the comments, only the person who uses it. That's self-censorship if anything.
I don't use it, actually, though I have it.
Echidne | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 12:06 am | #
True. Self-censorship is almost worse, though, ainna?
That's what they want.
Terry C - No More Repugs! | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 12:06 am | #
They want us to drop dead and never vote again, right?
It's hard to see how rank and file military people are going to think less of Barack Obama for pointing out that fighting two wars at once means soldiers don't get the stuff they need to protect themselves and complete their mission. In fact, the opposite will happen.
REAGAN High School??????????
Oy!
Terry C - No More Repugs!
Yeah, I commented on that over there yestiddy. But I didn't know it wasn't Ronnie, either.
It's pronounced REEgan High School.
Not named after Ronnie Raygun
Thanks- I forget who it is named after.
They were great- what's better than a high school marching band?
REAGAN High School??????????
Oy!
Terry C - No More Repugs!
John H. Reagan - Postmaster General of the Confederate States of America
REAGAN High School
Where you don't remember anything after sophomore year, and little before that.
Reagan High was named after a Texas Democratic Representative
IIRC, that's the way St. Ronald of the Monster Deficit's name is SUPPOSED to be pronounced, but I guess it sounded too Irish for all the WASPs he was trying to suck up to.
Terry C - No More Repugs!
Hunh. I didn't know that.
Kinda like Joe Theismann, who changed his pronunciation from THEES-man as a senior in college, so his name would rhyme with "Heisman."
It's hard to see how rank and file military people are going to think less of Barack Obama for pointing out that fighting two wars at once means soldiers don't get the stuff they need to protect themselves and complete their mission. In fact, the opposite will happen.
Doug Watts | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 12:08 am | #
My soldier buddies like Obama. Only four of them, though. We'll see.
Oh, horray Snitchens will be on with Maher next week.
...how long before he flips off the crowd this time?
attaturk |
Or falls flat on his face.
True. Self-censorship is almost worse, though, ainna?
Depends on what you censor. For instance, there's a person here who posts long quotes on how to comb horses or how the dental care of ancient Mesopotamians worked out. Then there is the poop troll late at night, telling detailed stories about the size and smell of shit. It's kind of nice to killfile those.
It's hard to see how rank and file military people are going to think less of Barack Obama for pointing out that fighting two wars at once means soldiers don't get the stuff they need to protect themselves and complete their mission. In fact, the opposite will happen.
Doug, I think it's wrong. Obama said this captain reached out to his campaign.
They've had it.
It's hard to see how rank and file military people are going to think less of Barack Obama for pointing out that fighting two wars at once means soldiers don't get the stuff they need to protect themselves and complete their mission. In fact, the opposite will happen.
What Mr. Watts said.
Hi folks:
I may seem strange. But at the end of a long hard day, I wanted to come here and say hi to my friends.
I'll probably write some more about this experience. I kind of want to post the eulogy I gave for my dad, but it has lots of specific identifying info.
On the other hand I realized that having a parent die is not unique to me. Maybe I write something with a few details removed, but that makes me sad because I can't say who I really am and who my Dad was. On the other hand maybe I can write about what things we all feel. Too soon to decide. As Data would say "Processing. Processing."
So many have written nice things to me I am truly humbled by your kindness.
My dad was a wonderful man, but I feel I'm still needing to learn some lessons from him.
Friends of my father completely filled the church. His ability to connect to people and his willingness to help others was astounding.
it is so nice to read you all again and not focus on sad things.
Kinda like Joe Theismann, who changed his pronunciation from THEES-man as a senior in college, so his name would rhyme with "Heisman."
Sinfonian, in America's Taint™
What a jackass that guy is.
Someone truly in love with the sound of his own voice.
I don't know how well Obama will do, but I'll bet he knows that Putin is not the president of Germany, unlike McCain.
http://thumbsnap.com/v/DpeySqdW.jpg
My condolences, spocko.
I guess we're going to have to vote between a candidate who managed to get himself captured by the enemy, and one who didn't.
Reagan High was named after a Texas Democratic Representative
I should know that. But I don't. 
I am however, the evil empire.
My soldier buddies like Obama.
My military neighbor and his cohorts Do Not like McCain. I found that rather encouraging.
I don't know how well Obama will do, but I'll bet he knows that Putin is not the president of Germany, unlike McCain.
Even Bush didn't fuck that up.
Then again, Bush wouldn't try to feel Putin up like he did Angela Merkel.
spocko: may your dad rest in peace, and may he look upon you and yours doing good work and being happy down here among us with a smile and a bit of satisfaction with a life well lived...
They want us to drop dead and never vote again, right?
Well, our most pernicious troll, who goes by many names and has even pretended to be his own girlfriend, simply wants to annoy people.
Friends of my father completely filled the church. His ability to connect to people and his willingness to help others was astounding.
it is so nice to read you all again and not focus on sad things.
spocko
I guess I've been channeling you tonight spocko, because I've been thinking about my Dad, too.
Peace and humptiness to all and God bless us every one.
Oh, horray Snitchens will be on with Maher next week.
Wonder what I-hate book he'll have out this time? "Fuck you, Santa Claus: Further Whiskey-fueled Essays on Things That People Love More Than Me."
Depends on what you censor. For instance, there's a person here who posts long quotes on how to comb horses or how the dental care of ancient Mesopotamians worked out. Then there is the poop troll late at night, telling detailed stories about the size and smell of shit. It's kind of nice to killfile those.
Echidne | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 12:09 am | #
LOL! Yeah, I know who you're talking about. But from what I'm hearing, those cretins aren't the only ones being "killfiled", right? I mean, comments which might not coincide with one's strict beliefs aren't garbage troll shit. They're just free speech and expression. I never understood why people wouldn't just ignore them on their own, without putting their hands over their ears and screamming "waahhh wahhhh wahh can't hear you."
spocko, it's nice to see you. I've been thinking of you and your family.
spocko!!!!
My thoughts are with you and yours. Take care, friend.
{{{spocko}}}
My soldier buddies like Obama.
My military neighbor and his cohorts Do Not like McCain. I found that rather encouraging.
FeralLiberal
I've talked to quite a few Vietnam vets who cannot STAND McCain!
Oh, spocko. I'm so sorry.
I didn't know he'd passed away.
My deepest condolences.
"My condolences, spocko."
ditto
Oh, no doubt the Pentagon is going to hunt down this guy's poor ass and fry it ... But this is not the kind of martyring that is going to drive a wedge between the Dem. nominee and armed forces members and their families.
In fact you might call it ...
a tactical victory within a strategic blunder
My military neighbor and his cohorts Do Not like McCain. I found that rather encouraging.
FeralLiberal | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 12:11 am | #
Mine too. Think he's phony. Bodes well?
Depends on what you censor. For instance, there's a person here who posts long quotes on how to comb horses or how the dental care of ancient Mesopotamians worked out. Then there is the poop troll late at night, telling detailed stories about the size and smell of shit. It's kind of nice to killfile those.
Echidne
Sounds like jack.
Sorry spocko.
MADDIE!!!
quit biting mah fingers
and U r too big to walk on my laptop
I wish I were close to my dad. I'm not. And I don't mean just geographically (although we're over 2,000 miles apart).
But I'm close to my kids, and that's everything to me. If I can't admire my dad, maybe I can be an admirable dad.
Oh, horray Snitchens will be on with Maher next week.
...how long before he flips off the crowd this time?
attaturk |
Bad as Chris is, it should be a better show than tonights was, already deleted from Tivo.
I never understood why people wouldn't just ignore them on their own, without putting their hands over their ears and screamming "waahhh wahhhh wahh can't hear you."
You'd be surprised.
Well, maybe you wouldn't. I dunno...
Spocko,
my condolences.
Spocko-- I'm so sorry. Just lost my mom four months ago. It's the worst feeling in the world.
I hope they don't force this guy out from the shadows, but this could show the Obama campaign how relentless and ruthless and ridiculous the right is, and how he'll have to fight back hard.
it is so nice to read you all again and not focus on sad things.
spocko | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 12:10 am | #
--
We're here to help.
Spocko,
Yes. Many of us have been through the experience. Many of us are still processing though it has been a decade in some cases (like mine)
Take your time and share what you feel you'd like to share. Sit and relax a bit among friends. We have all been wishing you as much good will as we can muster.
It is not easy and the feelings are so strong that there is no way to describe them other than by experiencing them - and each will have their turn at the dais.
Best wishes again. Your absence was noted and sadness registered.
Nice to see you.
If I can't admire my dad, maybe I can be an admirable dad.
That's what my brother has done.
Our dad wuz an asshole.
Well, maybe you wouldn't. I dunno...
Zap Rowsdower | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 12:14 am | #
I'm with you on this...
"I mean, comments which might not coincide with one's strict beliefs aren't garbage troll shit. They're just free speech and expression."
you never met econ102 I bet.
some come here and just try their damnedest to piss off the troops. they are not here for any other reason. killfiling them would be a pleasure.
I don't cause i want to know what everyone is saying. However, I will not criticize people who use killfile.
Kinda like Joe Theismann, who changed his pronunciation from THEES-man as a senior in college, so his name would rhyme with "Heisman."
Sinfonian, in America's Taint™
Those wacky Notre Damers. You couldn't beat them. You could only hope to contain them.
They want us to drop dead and never vote again, right?
Jake in Milwaukee
That ain't gonna happen.
And that's what drives 'em up the wall.
spocko:
For what it's worth -- which isn't much -- I have an idea what you're going through. My sincere condolences, and definitely believe your dad is in a better place.
re-HICA!
Haw!
Cat legs (tastes like chicken!)
.
Doug Watts, I wrote downstairs about the lovely pot on the blog. Please compliment your wife from me.
spocko:
Poorly phrased on my part.
Peace.....
Spocko, condolences from all of us here too.
MADDIE!!!
quit biting mah fingers
and U r too big to walk on my laptop
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?
She DOES love to nibble on dem fingers.
some come here and just try their damnedest to piss off the troops. they are not here for any other reason. killfiling them would be a pleasure.
I don't cause i want to know what everyone is saying. However, I will not criticize people who use killfile.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher | 02.23.08 - 12:15 am | #
In a way, they challenge us to organize our thoughts against their bullshit. I mean, every time I hear some crap from one of them, I bust open the wikipedia or the Google and find a bunch of data which disputes them. Just sayin'.
Is Uncle Blodge here?
My dad had a great love of education. One thing I always do when I run in to my old teachers is to tell them how important they work is and what it meant to me, (who wasn't always the brightest student, but I did like to talk in class )
Today after the lunch following the funeral I went to the school that was attached to the church and talked to my social studies teacher and thanked her for her work. She is teaching math now so I'm going to send her a couple of copies of some books from my favorite fun math writer John Allen Paulos. (He's very funny).
It then told some of the students what a great teacher she was, what I do for a living and how math is used in Silicon Valley. I name dropped some of the people and companies I've worked with (hopefully to impress them)
I might not be much, but I wanted them to know how important education is.
Spocko, I just jumped back in and sadly saw your news. Be well, be at peace.
Okay, I haz to make some cookies.
My apologies to mature white ladies that don't rock who I may have offended.
Spocko, good whises.
"If I can't admire my dad, maybe I can be an admirable dad.
That's what my brother has done.
Our dad wuz an asshole."
Mine was an asshole to me - was just great by my sisters.
if I do say so myself i have a good relationship with my kids and am not going to pass along the abusive patterns.
To celebrate the day that Rick Renzi was indicted, let's remember his little tryst with another notorious congresscritter, broadcast live on C-SPAN.
Haw!
Cat legs (tastes like chicken!)
.
Jeffraham Prestonian
OMG....that's funny!
Our Puginese lies down on his stomach and puts his two back legs straight out behind him.
"Our Puginese lies down on his stomach and puts his two back legs straight out behind him."
Super Pug.
I saw a picture of Renzi today.
Looks like a slimier version of Mitt Romney.
4LG,
You posted a story about your Dad one time...I still think about it. I'm very fortunate that I didn't have to go through the same thing you did with a parent.
I'm super happy that you're here to comment and post pics of terrific kittehs, is all I'm saying.
Time to make DWD angry. The Times, writing about wind power development in Texas:
“Texas could be a model for the entire nation,” said Patrick Woodson, a senior development executive with E.On, a German utility operating here.
The quaint windmills of old have been replaced by turbines that stand as high as 20-story buildings, with blades longer than a football field and each capable of generating electricity for small communities. powerful turbines are able to capture power even when the wind is relatively weak, and they help to lower the cost per kilowatt hour.
Much of the boom in the United States is being driven by foreign power companies with experience developing wind projects, including Iberdrola of Spain, Energias de Portugal and Windkraft Nord of Germany. Foreign companies own two-thirds of the wind projects under construction in Texas.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/2.../23wind.html?
hp
It's worth wondering why foreign expertise is sought for this work, when so much manufacturing and engineering capacity in this country has gone fallow. Europe, in particular, is hardly a low-wage, union-unfriendly developing-world kind of place...
My dad and mom were remarkably good parents. My friends would even comment on it.
I was so fucking lucky.
"Is Uncle Blodge here? "
he is
"I might not be much, but I wanted them to know how important education is."
you made that teacher's LIFE.
thank you for sharing
My apologies to mature white ladies that don't rock who I may have offended.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?
Thank you!
"
It's worth wondering why foreign expertise is sought for this work, when so much manufacturing and engineering capacity in this country has gone fallow."
Shareholders
Yes, there is something worse than the grieving when your father dies, and that is not to be able to feel any when he goes.
Doug Watts, I wrote downstairs about the lovely pot on the blog. Please compliment your wife from me.
Echidne | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 12:16 am | #
--
Thank you, Echidne. I will. I went back to the site and checked which one. That's a new one. A coupla weeks ago. New glaze recipe. Actually, it's a cat urn. For people who have their cats cremated.
You posted a story about your Dad one time...I still think about it. I'm very fortunate that I didn't have to go through the same thing you did with a parent.
Oh, the time he almost shot me?
Ah, I haven't let them fuck me up or ruin my sense of humor.
Yes, there is something worse than the grieving when your father dies, and that is not to be able to feel any when he goes.
Echidne | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 12:20 am | #
Wow. Yeah.
hank you, Echidne. I will. I went back to the site and checked which one. That's a new one. A coupla weeks ago. New glaze recipe. Actually, it's a cat urn. For people who have their cats cremated.
The lines on it have that magic something.
"Our Puginese lies down on his stomach and puts his two back legs straight out behind him."
Super Pug.
EkCenTriK
Da Mackster is a piece of work.
Blessings spocko.
Reading what you've said about your dad, he sounds like a wonderful man. The apple didn't fall far from the tree.
"there is something worse than the grieving when your father dies, and that is not to be able to feel any when he goes."
been 20 years for me and I haven't really cried for his death yet.
cause I don't miss him and i am not sad he's no longer in my life
steve: this stuff isn't easy; you're doing the best you can, buddy, which is OK by me
ProfWombat,
Too tired and drugged up to get angry tonight, maybe tomorrow.
But this Bush - he is a piece of work. That is all I have to say.
(I am making Dutch Pea Soup now for tomorrow. I have to check the soup then going to bed. It cooks in the crock pot for about twelve hours. I even went to Grand Haven to buy the Dutch Sausage that goes in it - Mettwurst.)
Echidne: Yes, there is something worse than the grieving when your father dies, and that is not to be able to feel any when he goes.
Having been estranged from my dad for the last 20 years, I don't even know if I'll know when he goes.
.
"I haven't let them fuck me up or ruin my sense of humor."
centaurs be tough!!!
Yes, there is something worse than the grieving when your father dies, and that is not to be able to feel any when he goes.
Oh, I dunno.
I didn't feel that bad. Felt a little sorry for him that he had ruined every relationship he'd ever been in.
Pretty pathetic.
My mom committed suicide. This is the first time I've said anything publicly about it. I don't know how she'd feel about me saying this, but there it is. Just when I get to the bottom of the pain of her loss, I find more.
time to purge the pentagon of all the phony soldiers.
Oh, the time he almost shot me?
Ah, I haven't let them fuck me up or ruin my sense of humor.
Yeah, that time.
And no...I'm glad it hasn't fucked you up or mess with your sense of humor. I could only imagine.
Yes, there is something worse than the grieving when your father dies, and that is not to be able to feel any when he goes.
Echidne
Phew. Yes.
I think of this often. My dad is 75 and his health is historically sketchy. He's already lived 11 years longer than his own father did.
And when he dies, I wonder how long it will take for me to know it ...
cause I don't miss him and i am not sad he's no longer in my life
Mine haunts me once in a while.
Fucking pisses me off.
I don't miss him.
Yes, there is something worse than the grieving when your father dies, and that is not to be able to feel any when he goes.
Echidne
Wow. Yeah.
Jake in Milwaukee
Something I will never forget.
My parents were married 28 years when they divorced in 1980. All the years of drinking finally caught up with him and his personality completely went to hell. He was verbally abusive with her and us kids.
When he died 9 years later, before they closed the casket, the family had to say their last goodbyes.
My Mom said she felt nothing.
Can you imagine....how someone could KILL all feelings a spouse ever had for them?
ProfWombat
dis ya see the article I linked to yesterday to Scientific American?
Had a well planned way to achieve 98% energy independence in a 100 yrs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4...h?
v=4FwUvZeHpus
great tribute video
Jake in Milwaukee, I'm so sorry. Sometimes the pain is just too much to bear.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
You know I was thinking about you too when I did that. I have a more personal relationship with you as an adult so I can see a bit about what being a teacher is for an adult.
I also made a point of complimenting her in front of her students. I was reminded about Tom Hanks thanking one of his teachers when he won and Oscar.
My mom committed suicide. This is the first time I've said anything publicly about it. I don't know how she'd feel about me saying this, but there it is. Just when I get to the bottom of the pain of her loss, I find more.
Oh, I'm sorry, that's really hard.
I didn't feel that bad. Felt a little sorry for him that he had ruined every relationship he'd ever been in.
Pretty pathetic.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?
Sounds like my ex husband.
Fuck- someone come play with this cat.
Sorry to hear that, Jake.
Jake,
I'm sorry that you had to go through that. Suicide is tough enough...let alone losing a parent.
I've gone through some stuff where I had to be hospitalized. It ain't great stuff, obviously.
Can you imagine....how someone could KILL all feelings a spouse ever had for them?
Terry C - No More Repugs! | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 12:24 am | #
That's so sad. At my mom's funeral, my stepdad, who'd been divorced from my mom for 7 years, broke down into a mess. Cried and cried and cried. Said she was the love of his life.
Damn, Jake, Be well, friend.
Fuck- someone come play with this cat.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?
I wish I could.
She is SO beautiful.
"how someone could KILL all feelings a spouse ever had for them?"
My Ex did that. ain't hard.
just shit on someone. mock them, treat them poorly. fail to support them while demanding support.
do that for a few years and there you go
1Watt: I take 'Scientific American', and posted that one up myself. Off the shelf solar technology, with subsidies of under $10 billion per year for a decade or two, giving energy independence by 2050.
It can be done. Don't doubt it for a minute.
I've gone through some stuff where I had to be hospitalized. It ain't great stuff, obviously.
Zap Rowsdower | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 12:26 am | #
I'm glad you got help. No one had any idea my mom was sick. I lived with her, she was my best friend, and the rock of the family. When I found her, I was beside myself. Didn't even know who I was anymore.
okay i've been lurking and now am tearing up. my dad was hostile and snide to me the whole time i was growing up in his house. he either ignored me or said somthing snide. i made very good grades, never got in trouble, and just couldn't get him to interact with me. a few years ago he helped me out when i was hospitalized but since then he's gone back to being selfish and snide and i've told mom i'm done for good. i've spent too many years in therapy and taking antidepressants and i just can't let him hurt me any more.
and here i find a bunch of my fellow atriots are living the same reality. thank goddes for you guys and gals.
Fuck- someone come play with this cat.
Send her through the wormhole. To pester Arthur.
Somebody tell a joke or something. I'm starting to get sad.
That's so sad. At my mom's funeral, my stepdad, who'd been divorced from my mom for 7 years, broke down into a mess. Cried and cried and cried. Said she was the love of his life.
Oh, that's terribly sad.
How awful for you all.
"Just when I get to the bottom of the pain of her loss, I find more."
awwww man I am so so sorry.
keep going. one day you will get where you need to be.
Can you imagine....how someone could KILL all feelings a spouse ever had for them?
Terry C - No More Repugs!
That's so sad. At my mom's funeral, my stepdad, who'd been divorced from my mom for 7 years, broke down into a mess. Cried and cried and cried. Said she was the love of his life.
Jake in Milwaukee
Funny, with all the shit that my dad put us through, all of us kids were devastated when he died.
I intend to go one further than my Mom.
If my ex goes first, I'm not going anywhere NEAR his funeral.
Those of you from Cali, is Zoe Lofgren really so stupid as to suggest that there are no Americans willing to work in engineering fields?
I've gone through some stuff where I had to be hospitalized. It ain't great stuff, obviously.
Zap Rowsdower
Me, too, as I've mentioned here, and here, before. I am glad when I hear that my story has helped others.
Damn, Jake, Be well, friend.
MP | 02.23.08 - 12:26 am | #
Thanks, MP. It's been an amazingly difficult four months. My sister has schizophrenia and I've been on edge that she would soon follow. But friends are an incredible invention.
Off the shelf solar technology, with subsidies of under $10 billion per year for a decade or two, giving energy independence by 2050.
I think the new nano carbon tube technology will allow it to happen much sooner.
It can be done. Don't doubt it for a minute.
ProfWombat
yep & create 3 million jobs to boot.
you don't go into the election with the army you want, you go with the one you have.
this is really the most odious administration in my life time.
the first one i have a clear memory of is nixons, so i think that's saying somthing.
okay i've been lurking and now am tearing up. my dad was hostile and snide to me the whole time i was growing up in his house. he either ignored me or said somthing snide. i made very good grades, never got in trouble, and just couldn't get him to interact with me. a few years ago he helped me out when i was hospitalized but since then he's gone back to being selfish and snide and i've told mom i'm done for good. i've spent too many years in therapy and taking antidepressants and i just can't let him hurt me any more.
Sweetie, here's how you cope.
Pay attention:
It's not you. His inability to love has nothing to do with you.
Never did, never will. If he's that toxic, walk away, don't look back and don't feel guilty.
and here i find a bunch of my fellow atriots are living the same reality. thank goddes for you guys and gals.
TEBB, uppity female
I love these guys and gals here.
Even though some of them piss me off at times.
This Bill Moyers program is pretty good, too bad they spent all thier time on Earmarks just in Washington State.
Been kinda fun here the last few days, Hulk Stevens and Don Young are in town, they are a riot trying to avoid answering questions.
Somebody tell a joke or something. I'm starting to get sad.
MP | 02.23.08 - 12:27 am | #
So Hitler walks into a room....
:D
In the meantime... ride scooters, people!
(sorry... lighter than appropriate)
.
*carbon nanotube
simels regrets, yada yada.
"Somebody tell a joke or something. I'm starting to get sad."
http://img.timeinc.net/time/
phot...il_mural_03.jpg
the mural near my school!
Here's something to cheer folks up ...
http://tispaquin.blogspot.com/20...t-
complain.html
Never did, never will. If he's that toxic, walk away, don't look back and don't feel guilty.
Yeah. Only you will have to face the empty bit and live with it. I mean accept that loss of love.
fourlegsgood - thank you for that, i know it in my head but in my heart i still wonder why he didn't love me and what i could have done to get him to love me. its funny how we can be so logical about so many things in our lives and so illogical when we are hurting.
Been kinda fun here the last few days, Hulk Stevens and Don Young are in town, they are a riot trying to avoid answering questions
I can't believe he's running for relection.
Is he fucking kidding?
Jake in Milwaukee | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 12:23 am
I am so sorry.
the mural near my school!
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
Very nice.
Oh my. I'm crying here.
Jake in Milwaukee
I watched my brother die hard. 13 years ago, and it completely altered my life.
But you still go out and do what you do.
spocko-
My condolences. My dad died over 40 years ago, and I still miss him.
Dick Cheney, the Pope and a Gorilla walk into a bar together...
Bartender says:
Whaaad, is this some kinda joke?
TEBB, your last comment was exactly what I was referring to. Therapy can really help in coming to terms with those feelings.
Jake: the classic line I learned in psych in medical school back in 1971 or so was the Freudian take, that suicide is the murder of the introject. Struck me at the time as awfully glib; most of us are that angry sometimes. The explanations are always after the fact, always a bit unsatisfactory, and the act leaves us here a little angry, a lot sad, more alone, and troubled at the essential terrible mystery, the idea that we're really not sure, deep in our hearts, why one of us did it and not ourselves.
And all any of can do is the best we can. All the best...
Jake in Milwaukee | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 12:23 am
I am so sorry.
spocko | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 12:31 am | #
Spocko-- shit! I'M so sorry. Was reading a bit about whatcha been going through. Now's the time to hang onto what matters.
It can be done. Don't doubt it for a minute.
ProfWombat
If the empty seats in cars were filled with riders, energy independence would happen instantly.
Yeah, I'm delusional.
i know it in my head but in my heart i still wonder why he didn't love me and what i could have done to get him to love me. its funny how we can be so logical about so many things in our lives and so illogical when we are hurting.
TEBB, uppity female
You can't make someone love you....especially when they are not capable of love.
Some people aren't.
No one had any idea my mom was sick. I lived with her, she was my best friend, and the rock of the family. When I found her, I was beside myself. Didn't even know who I was anymore.
By no means minimizing it, but that's what depressed people try and do...they hide it.
And I can only imagine what it would be like finding a parent like that. You're obviously a strong enough person that you can still carry on; but it must be rough. You really come across as a person who's got their shit together, so you must be doing something right.
When my mother died of cancer in 2006, she was wearing the diamond pendant my father had given her 35 years before. He'd been dead since 1983, and she had had two longterm relationships thereafter, but he obviously was the love of her life.
My parents in 1967...
http://www.thumbsnap.com/v/bodHZv3b.jpg
and here i find a bunch of my fellow atriots are living the same reality. thank goddes for you guys and gals.
TEBB, uppity female
That's precisely why I share my stories, not only here but in meatspace, too. I know many out there are struggling with similar things and think they're going through it alone. I did. They think there's a stigma about being hospitalized or taking anti-depressants. I did. They think there's no one who would understand. I did.
But all those "thoughts" are wrong, and I don't mind using myself as an example.
what i could have done to get him to love me.
Nothing.
Because it has nothing to do with you.
He's the one who is broken. It's hard, but you just have to believe that.
Back from seeing Obama speak in Austin. Great speech. Very impressive guy and huge crowd.
For inspiration!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v...h?
v=vgBDOWD9j5U
Where the hell is NTodd tonight?
OK, take two:
Those of you from Cali, is Zoe Lofgren really so stupid as to suggest that there are no Americans willing to work in engineering fields?
I mean really. Instead of rewarding companies for not hiring Americans, maybe we should, you know, punish them?
My parents in 1967...
http://www.thumbsnap.com/v/bodHZv3b.jpg
Richard
My, she was gorgeous!
Where the hell is NTodd tonight?
In a snowdrift somewhere, pantless, weeping?
The explanations are always after the fact, always a bit unsatisfactory, and the act leaves us here a little angry, a lot sad, more alone, and troubled at the essential terrible mystery, the idea that we're really not sure, deep in our hearts, why one of us did it and not ourselves.
Is it weird that I'm not angry at her? We've had a terrible life the last 15 years. My grandmother, her mother, had Alzheimer's and we took care of her at home for 10 years. She died miserably and then my sister, her daughter, got sick with schizophrenia. It was too much. She was done. I miss her terribly, I get angry at the mess left behind, but I can't help but understand what happened.
"Very nice."
Highlight of my day coming out of the subway and seeing that
By no means minimizing it, but that's what depressed people try and do...they hide it.
They don't want to "burden" other people.
Yeah. Only you will have to face the empty bit and live with it. I mean accept that loss of love.
Yeah, but she never had it.
And the relief she'll feel when she stops blaming herself will change her life.
For the better.
Parents blow. Seriously.
I've been looking with envy at a friends victory brand motorcycle. I don't know if that would be what I'd want, but cycles look fun. When I lived in Montana the practicality of a motorcycle never seemed to be enough to bother. Here in AZ, the only thing that might keep me from wanting to ride one would be the mid-day sun in the summer. Otherwise the weather is about perfect.
I can't believe he's running for relection.
Is he fucking kidding?
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?
Who, Unka Ted?
Hell, yesterday he challenged an Anchorage Daily News reporter to a fist fight.
Today, that same reporter refused to leave a Don Young press conference when they asked him to leave, so the Congressman canceled the presser.
By no means minimizing it, but that's what depressed people try and do...they hide it.
Very true.
Back from seeing Obama speak in Austin. Great speech. Very impressive guy and huge crowd.
Nice.
It looked like there were at least 20,000 people there.
I was just too tired to deal with the crowd.
human beings are fucked up people.
it's sad, but it's true.
best advice i ever got was "you've been dealt a bad deal of cards, deal with it."
They think there's a stigma about being hospitalized or taking anti-depressants.
When I got dumped back in 1998, I ended up on Zoloft for six months.
When my doctor suggested them to me, I didn't want to take them.
Hell, yesterday he challenged an Anchorage Daily News reporter to a fist fight.
HULK SMASH!!
If the empty seats in cars were filled with riders, energy independence would happen instantly.
Yea, like finding people who want to go where I want to go is easy.
They don't want to "burden" other people.
Terry C - No More Repugs!
And slowly kill themselves in the process.
human beings are fucked up people.
This is funny, though.
Nice.
It looked like there were at least 20,000 people there.
I was just too tired to deal with the crowd.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 12:36 am | #
Took my older kid so he could see the next president speak.
He spoke without notes, much of it was familiar, but lots of specific policy items plus the community organizer speech.
They don't want to "burden" other people.
Terry C - No More Repugs!
And slowly kill themselves in the process.
MP |
Exactly.
HULK SMASH!!
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?
Last weekend he put on a wig and entered into the Jewish Ladies Craft Competition.
Yea, he won.
rootless, here's some of my 400 pictures from yesterday:
http://gotspitchfork.blogspot.co...ly-
madness.html
(no, not all 400 of them- only a few)
If rocket ships to the sun were all fired up and ready, we would not need a Republican primary.
"When my doctor suggested them to me, I didn't want to take them."
I won't take them.
reaction to being them trying to force valium on me was a crazy teen in the 70s.
to each their own but I won't take em. I have no problem with others choosing to but I can't
Well, given that I'm struggling a bit with mood disorders presently, I find it difficult to hang out here, tonight. Well, lately.
.
evening bats
what's shakin?
spocko
thoughts and sadness your way.
from a crying Daniel as well.
It was too much. She was done. I miss her terribly, I get angry at the mess left behind, but I can't help but understand what happened.
Sometimes, unfortunately, you're not meant to know why something like this happens.
Shit happens...and sometimes, it's not someone's fault/explanation.
Well, given that I'm struggling a bit with mood disorders presently, I find it difficult to hang out here, tonight. Well, lately.
I'll send you some cookies through the wormhole.
I'm sorry, Spocko. Blessings.
"When my doctor suggested them to me, I didn't want to take them."
I won't take them.
reaction to being them trying to force valium on me was a crazy teen in the 70s.
to each their own but I won't take em. I have no problem with others choosing to but I can't
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
They kept ME functioning, helped me get through all the bullshit.
The only side effect I had from the Zoloft was dry mouth.
Okay, REALLY have to make these cookies for teh party tomorrow.
(no, not all 400 of them- only a few)
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 12:38 am | #
Nice pictures. I did my part there holding up the letter "A" - felt like a sesame street character.
::matthew, sorry I haven't called -- I wasn't sure I'd have time to hang out. But Kenny and another blogger and I are meeting at Finnegan's tomorrow night about 8:30 if you wanna join us.
"They kept ME functioning, helped me get through all the bullshit."
I don't even mean to imply criticism - just that I can't bring myself to try those kinds of meds. but that's me
Hell, yesterday he challenged an Anchorage Daily News reporter to a fist fight.
Why didn't he just challenge Chris Matthews to a duel?
Jake: it's the way it was, and the last thing I'd want to do is just be glib about it. I will, though, say that anger is something I've seen just about everybody go through as they face losses, whether or not it's overt, and it's often displaced and a source of guilt. Used to tell folk to wait for it, it'll happen more likely than not, and then to remember.
Just sounds like an awful decade; hope things work out a bit for you and yours...
Okay, REALLY have to make these cookies for teh party tomorrow.
I can haz invitationz?
"REALLY have to make these cookies for teh party tomorrow"
I like chocolate chip!
"They kept ME functioning, helped me get through all the bullshit."
I don't even mean to imply criticism - just that I can't bring myself to try those kinds of meds. but that's me
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
Oh, I know.
I didn't want to take them because of the stigma.
Real or imagined.
Uncle Blodge -- Valium is completely different than anti-depressants; Valium is a mild depressant, actually.
.
Why didn't he just challenge Chris Matthews to a duel?
Terry C - No More Repugs!
He's Alaskan, not a Georgian Gentleman.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: of all the members of Congress I met when I was teaching in D.C. in the late '80s, Ted Stevens was hands down the biggest asshole of them all.
Second? His pal Frank Murkowski. Both just hideous people.
Shit happens...and sometimes, it's not someone's fault/explanation.
Zap Rowsdower | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 12:39 am | #
The only thing that's been pervasive in my thoughts the past months, is the immense failure I've felt. The failure to prevent the act, the failure to be her son, the failure to do what I know I could do. It's a futile feeling, I know, and I make peace with it on most good days. But it will always be with me.
The secret to perfect shortbread is to use icing sugar instead of granulated sugar. There! I've given away one of my three greatest secrets.
Okay, REALLY have to make these cookies for teh party tomorrow.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?
You can haz cookies?
"Valium is completely different than anti-depressants; Valium is a mild depressant, actually."
yeah I know.
still - left me not trusting people who wanted me to take a pill cause of how I felt
I've said it before and I'll say it again: of all the members of Congress I met when I was teaching in D.C. in the late '80s, Ted Stevens was hands down the biggest asshole of them all.
Someday, Aravosos has to write of his experiences.
Nice pictures. I did my part there holding up the letter "A" - felt like a sesame street character.
U were there? cool.
The band was awesome, eh?
I'd say something clever, but I just saw a few minutes of Jonah Goldberg on Glenn Beck, and I think part of the swirling vortex of stupid got into my brain.
I'm not going to drive until tomorrow, just to be safe.
Why didn't he just challenge Chris Matthews to a duel?
Terry C - No More Repugs!
He's Alaskan, not a Georgian Gentleman.
Barry from Alaska
HE ain't NO kind of gentleman.
Hell, yesterday he challenged an Anchorage Daily News reporter to a fist fight.
Flinging poop is the proper Republican nomenclature ...
Second? His pal Frank Murkowski
Now living in Park City, Utah.
Uncle Blodge: still - left me not trusting people who wanted me to take a pill cause of how I felt
Well, if you look at it this way, the modern drugs just enable your brain to use the chemicals it itself produces, as if you were otherwise "normal," whatever that might mean!
.
"The failure to prevent the act, the failure to be her son, the failure to do what I know I could do."
you could have you would have. give it time this will fade. right now go ahead and hurt if you need to but consider the possibility that you did your best and no one could have done better.
sinfonian...I'd like to come if I can. I'll be going to the double header to make up for the cancelled game tonight so I might be required to be at home for, you know, like an hour or two tomorrow.
If you want to make a game, I've got extra tickets
HOPKINSVILLE, Ky. (AP) — Robin Moore, who wrote several books, including “The French Connection” and “The Green Berets,” died on Tuesday in southwestern Kentucky. He was 82.
He was co-writer of “The Ballad of the Green Berets,” which became the signature song of the Special Forces unit.
Which is perhaps the worst song in the history of the universe
In 1986 Mr. Moore pleaded guilty to selling fraudulent literary tax shelters. The government charged that Mr. Moore published books and sold the royalty rights to promoters and investors at inflated prices based upon arbitrary and unrealistic values.
I like how he valued stealing $$$ and killing gooks
Why didn't he just challenge Chris Matthews to a duel?
Terry C - No More Repugs!
Terry, Terry, Terry...
it's "dual"
still - left me not trusting people who wanted me to take a pill cause of how I felt
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
Uncle B, sometimes it's a chemical imbalance. They can fix that nowadays. My wife is a nurse and gives me shit for just sitting there and taking it, when there's help available.
Re the medication:
I hear ya Uncle Blodge. I'm bi-polar. Heck, some days I don't know who I am.
Hey! Who said that?
Here's a famous Philip Larkin poem, with which I don't agree entirely:
They fuck you up your mom and dad
They may not mean to, but they do;
They give you all the faults they had,
And add some new ones just for you.
They were fucked up in their time
By fools in old style hats and coats,
Who half the time were sloppy stern,
And half at one another's throats.
Man hands on misery to man,
It deepens like a coastal shelf,
Get out as quickly as you can,
And don't have any kids yourself.
Flinging poop is the proper Republican nomenclature ...
Doug Watts
Tonight at the lecture I attended, Salman Rushdie was describing some of his experiences regarding the infamous fatwa, which he described as "the excrement hitting the ventilation device."
BBL
I just saw a few minutes of Jonah Goldberg on Glenn Beck,
Two assholes for the price of one.
"My wife is a nurse and gives me shit for just sitting there and taking it, when there's help available."
yeah...
my choice is to go talk to a counselor, go have a good cry or talk to a friend. my choice is to not take these meds and I stand by that.
maybe I'm stupid but it's my choice.
If you want to make a game, I've got extra tickets
::matthew
I remember, thanks. I'm tied up tomorrow, probably, but I'll definitely take you up on it when I'm here in March or April if there are home games.
ProfWombat - excellent poem, except for the last line. my sister got married and adopted kids (so as to avoid perpetuating the genetics) and her husband is the best father i know. i tell him that regularly.
human beings are fucked up people.
This is funny, though.
Echidne
for me it was an epiphany.
i speak as one seriously fucked up people.
peace all, i hope whatever ails you is healed in the new light of the new day.
Tonight at the lecture I attended, Salman Rushdie was describing some of his experiences regarding the infamous fatwa, which he described as "the excrement hitting the ventilation device."
Sinfonian, in America's Taint™ | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 12:46 am | #
--
UR so fukking suave.
Desert caravans must see mirages just looking at you.
you could have you would have. give it time this will fade. right now go ahead and hurt if you need to but consider the possibility that you did your best and no one could have done better.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher | 02.23.08 - 12:45 am | #
It's weird. I've watched someone close die of a degenerative disease. It was terrible, and I'm only 28 years old, but I thought that would be the defining moment of my life, watching my grandmother die. But when it happened, it was strangely peaceful, weight-uplifting. It felt complete, over. When this happened, it wasn't at all like that. It was defeating, immeasurably deflating. There was nothing comforting or peaceful about it.
Okay. I'm done sharing. Too depressing. Now, Pantload say anything stupid today?
"I'm bi-polar. Heck, some days I don't know who I am."
had a student who was (she said) bipolar (actually a new designation called pre-bipolar)(not sure what that means)
I could write a whole chapter on that kid.
I miss her and think about her often.
maybe I'm stupid but it's my choice.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
Just know that you aren't alone. Sometimes that helps a little bit.
big hug to you jake, and a kiss on the cheek.
UR so fukking suave.
Desert caravans must see mirages just looking at you.
Doug Watts
Ex-squeeze me?
It's a futile feeling, I know, and I make peace with it on most good days. But it will always be with me.
It's because you care...and there's nothing futile about that.
Not to compare to what you've gone through, but my Dad just had a lung removed last month...and is now going through chemo at the urging of an oncologist. Makes me think about my parent's mortality all too much.
put yer headphones on & take a tour of my place:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L...h?
v=LMe9n0QONLU
Thanks, TEBB
And Zap-- this why you quit smoking? Good man.
TEBB: I don't like his assertion that the cycle can't be broken save by not having children. I don't think that's true. And, while my kids will have had ample time to contemplate their father's imperfections, I do think they're glad they're alive more often than not...
"Okay. I'm done sharing. Too depressing."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I...h?v=IO-O-i20-
zk
that's one of my happy songs
Grrrr.
MSNBC headline: "Pentagon questions Obama’s story."
Entirely inappropriate on so many levels.
Sinf --
Did you attack Salman Rushdie with a rubber knife and say ...
I KEEEEEEEEEED !!! I KEEEEEEEEEEE !!!
then hit him up for some good Libyan Berber hashish ?
I don't even mean to imply criticism - just that I can't bring myself to try those kinds of meds. but that's me
There was a formerly frequent poster who made some rather infuriating statements at one point when people were talking about taking medication for depression. That person's suggestion was that why don't those folks just suck it up, or failing that, do what they did when they were unhappy, smoke pot.
If I were physically in reach, I would have slapped that person in the face. Obviously someone incapable of understanding that there's a significant difference between feeling blue once and awhile and major depression.
EBB: I don't like his assertion that the cycle can't be broken save by not having children. I don't think that's true.
I've seen abused children grow up into fantastic parents. Being aware is the first step and the second one is to learn the parenting skills you need.
this why you quit smoking?
You bet your sweet bippy, that's why.
Week and a half!
You bet your sweet bippy
Dick Martin used to say that.
PITTSBURGH - People will increasingly interact with computers using speech or touch screens rather than keyboards, Microsoft Corp. Chairman Bill Gates said.
"It's one of the big bets we're making," he said during the final stop of a farewell tour before he withdraws from the company's daily operations in July.
In five years, Microsoft expects more Internet searches to be done through speech than through typing on a keyboard, Gates told about 1,200 students and faculty members Thursday at Carnegie Mellon University.
So wrong. He's no longer part of the cubicle work world.
"Obviously someone incapable of understanding that there's a significant difference between feeling blue once and awhile and major depression."
I think I remember that. I would have helped you smack them.
Week and a half!
Hurray for Zap!
1Watt - dogs, trees and running water, that's heaven.
Heh. No attacks, Doug.
But during the Q&A, one English major, female and cute, asked him, and I quote, "What would it take for you to chain me up and read to me?"
I've seen abused children grow up into fantastic parents. Being aware is the first step and the second one is to learn the parenting skills you need.
Echidne | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 12:51 am | #
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My dad, for one. His father beat the crap out of him. He would never touch me and my brother. By mother broke lots of wooden spoons over our asses, though.
Prof Wombat,
Thanks for the Larkin. I escaped from much of my family when I was sixteen. And have never looked back. Escaping got me a college education, a PhD, and a wonderful wife. Most of my brothers? Not so lucky.
Okay, one last thing to say about this. My mom was the person who got me into this website. She went by the handle "Wolf" or "lonewolf"... not sure if you all recall that, or if she even posted here often. But she was the person who pointed me in Atrios' direction. So, here I am, and have been for several years.
Week and a half!
Zap Rowsdower | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 12:51 am | #
You're 90% done!
Profwombat - the next to the last line "get out as quickly as you can was right though, you have to leave the awful relationship. that's hard because others in the family hate that you've broken the unspoken rule of not acknowledging how bad it is. my mom is the worst about it and i just refuse to discuss it.
Obviously someone incapable of understanding that there's a significant difference between feeling blue once and awhile and major depression
A black chasm of difference.
But during the Q&A, one English major, female and cute, asked him, and I quote, "What would it take for you to chain me up and read to me?"
Sinfonian, in America's Taint™ | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 12:53 am | #
--
I hope you stepped in and told her that you have a fabulously popular radio show ...
?????
If Uncle B is here, tell him he's right.
Tears heal.
U were there? cool.
The band was awesome, eh?
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 12:43 am | #
They stuck some of us out on the street waving signs and being harassed by old ladies with hillary signs.
Now, Pantload say anything stupid today?
Jake in Milwaukee
What? You expect him NOT to?
I hope you stepped in and told her that you have a fabulously popular radio show ...
?????
Doug Watts | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 12:55 am | #
Not to mention knowing Trebek!
Jake: we're glad you're here.
leibniz: yup. 'tain't easy. You did what you had to do.
What? You expect him NOT to?
Terry C - No More Repugs! | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 12:55 am | #
I count on it. Boy's gotta laugh sometimes.
May I just say, I'm not sorry for talking about my dad. I think we need to feel sad and grieve. I will also say that my dad was very funny. And I think I'm kind of funny too. My humor doesn't really translate on the page all the time. JeffCO and Gilly are funnier writers but in person I can bring the funny pretty regularly. I did stand up in San Francisco for a few years and got to the level of an opening act and did some "corporate comedy" where I got paid to be funny. So when it came time for the eulogy my mom turned to me and said, "Spocko, say some thing funny."
Wow. No pressure or anything.
But I did it. People laughed and cried. My dad was the one who often eulogized his friends and I felt that it was something that I could do for him and my mom. I cried writing it but I didn't reciting it in Church. My Dad was with me there.
I think I remember that.
It was a certain Illinois native who made the asinine comments.
But she was the person who pointed me in Atrios' direction.
Boo-ya!
dogs, trees and running water, that's heaven.
TEBB,
yep.
In some ways turning into a perfectly ok mom or dad is the best revenge, after all.
I hope you stepped in and told her that you have a fabulously popular radio show ...
?????
Doug Watts
Sadly, no.
There were several hundred people there. It would have been ... awkward.
"If Uncle B is here, tell him he's right.
Tears heal."
He is.
told ya
TEBB: I don't like his assertion that the cycle can't be broken save by not having children. I don't think that's true. And, while my kids will have had ample time to contemplate their father's imperfections, I do think they're glad they're alive more often than not...
ProfWombat | 02.23.08 - 12:50 am | #
SO glad you wrote that, Prof Wombat.
WE successfully broke the cycle at our house. BUT it was expensive and a LOT of work.
So, here I am, and have been for several years.
Jake in Milwaukee | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 12:54 am | #
And as a FIB, I'd like to say that, for a cheesehead, you're alright.
Man hands on misery to man,
It deepens like a coastal shelf,
Get out as quickly as you can,
And don't have any kids yourself.
ProfWombat | 02.23.08 - 12:45 am | #
So 60s!
You can almost see the go-go boots and hear the primal scream.
Ok, time for a change of topic.
This is simultaneously funny, and disturbing.
"Obviously someone incapable of understanding that there's a significant difference between feeling blue once and awhile and major depression."
Obviously someone incapable of distinguishing their ass from their elbow.
My Dad was with me there.
spocko
He's with you for the long haul, dude.
"May I just say, I'm not sorry for talking about my dad."
shouldn't be.
and mention him again when you need to. I think it'd be ok with the night shift.
spocko | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 12:56 am | #
Spocko! Thanks for the kind words and my deepest condolences for your loss. You were missed around here.
This is one of the most touching threads ever.
There were several hundred people there. It would have been ... awkward.
Sinfonian, in America's Taint™ | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 12:57 am | #
--
Dood ... that was your Howard Stern moment ...
Spocko, all my love. Which isn't worth much, but it's what I have.
This is simultaneously funny, and disturbing.
David (Austin Tx)
That is SO wrong on SO many levels.
Not to mention knowing Trebek!
Gilly Gonzylon
heh ... I mentioned earlier that our Rhodes Scholar keeps saying how cool it is that I was on the show. He's a fuckin' Rhodes Scholar, and he's impressed by my sorry ass? That's scary.
Thanks Shared! It's a blast hangin out here. Great having the window open while I'm hitting the books. My friends get a kick out of you guys, too... not all the time you get a crew of informed, progressive people who have something to say and FUNNY at that. Hope Atrios knows what he's got goin' on here. Though I'm sure he does.
"Which isn't worth much, but it's what I have."
it's worth a lot. but throw in lasagna just in case
Not to mention knowing Trebek!
Gilly Gonzylon
Schuck it, Trebek... Ha Ha...
Obviously someone incapable of distinguishing their ass from their elbow.
Arrogance combined with ignorance is a rather unappealing combination.
He's a fuckin' Rhodes Scholar, and he's impressed by my sorry ass? That's scary.
Will you autograph me?
Dood ... that was your Howard Stern moment ...
Doug Watts
Among the several hundred were many colleagues, including my boss and my boss' boss.
So, no.
Schuck it, Trebek... Ha Ha...
Jake in Milwaukee | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 1:00 am | #
"You're a bastard, Trebek!" LOL
My Dad was with me there.
spocko
Strange how you can feel that presence, ain't it?
my son is having a hard time tonight, but the rainforest sounds of his bouncer seem to have finally settled him down.
a rainforest bouncer, a rainforest jumperoo, and a rainforest playpen.
I ask you, is Fisher Price secretly in league with the Costa Rican Tourism Board?
from a link to a song I published earlier...
There's no one in town I know
You gave us some place to go
I never said thank you for that
'thought I might get one more chance
What would you think of me now?
So lucky, so strong, so proud
I never said thank you for that
Now I'll never have a chance
May angels lead you in
Hear you me my friends
On sleepless roads, the sleepless go
May angels lead you in
Love's in fact worth a great deal, perhaps everything. Time for your agnostic correspondent to drag out 1 Corinthians 13:
1If I speak in the tongues[a] of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames,[b] but have not love, I gain nothing.
4Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
8Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears. 11When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. 12Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
13And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
Obviously someone incapable of distinguishing their ass from their elbow.
Arrogance combined with ignorance is a rather unappealing combination.
Richard
See: Bush, George W.
Cheney, Richard B.
Time to hit the bunk for ol' Zap.
spocko, take care and stay great!
Jake, stay stoic and midwestern.
Goodnight, folks.
i got some contract work out of town and will be on the left coast for about a month starting on monday. will be working a lot of hours so i won't stop in here often, but i'll be thinking of you guys.
thanks for the warmth and support.
"You're a bastard, Trebek!" LOL
Gilly Gonzylon | 02.23.08 - 1:00 am | #
I miss Will Farrell....
Nite, Zap!
What Alex Trebek was doing in 1963...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=F2n-smszmpk
There are many ways to nourish and have children. The students I teach are closely to the age any biological children of mine would be. And I am thrilled when they go on to get graduate degrees, etc. Here is part of an email from one yesterday. I am taking her on as a research assistant and I coincidentally discovered she is taking courses in ancient greek:
That sounds wonderful, Professor. Outstanding-is more like it. It will be so very interesting and rewarding to [work with you].
... Lastly, thank you so much for that e-mail. Such a compliment holds, for me, a lot of weight. I cannot stress that enough. But I think I shall be able to do so in time to come!
a mη oida oud' oiomai eidevai (I wish I had a Greek-alphabet keyboard) "I don't assume that I know whatever I don't know."
a rainforest bouncer, a rainforest jumperoo, and a rainforest playpen.
I ask you, is Fisher Price secretly in league with the Costa Rican Tourism Board?
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari
Either that or Sting is getting a kickback somewhere.
"thanks for the warmth and support."
xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo
OK, I'll cop to it. I'm listening to Cheap Trick Live at Budokan right now.
Will you autograph me?
Echidne
For you, anytime.
Left or right?
HBO Agrees To Air ‘Taxi To The Dark Side’ After Discovery Drops It For Being Too ‘Controversial’
In a press release on Thursday, HBO announced that it has bought the rights to Taxi and will show the film in September 2008.
David,
I so want one.
What Alex Trebek was doing in 1963...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=F2n-smszmpk
Richard
He's gotten much better looking with age.
If you didn't before, you now must check this out.
You will laugh, you will be disgusted, you will wish you had one for yourself.
OK, I'll cop to it. I'm listening to Cheap Trick Live at Budokan right now.
MP | 02.23.08 - 1:02 am | #
Kick ass album, IMHO.
OK, I'll cop to it. I'm listening to Cheap Trick Live at Budokan right now.
MP
Ain't NOTHING wrong with that!
This is simultaneously funny, and disturbing.
David (Austin Tx)
Needs one of those switches that glows when off.
Uncle B, how about lasagna? And carrot cake?
I'm listening to a cd I found while cleaning. Antigone Rising. Not bad, sort of cheerful.
I don't think Larkin and go-go boots have ever been in the same sentence.
I still like the video of Trebek drunk.
You will laugh, you will be disgusted, you will wish you had one for yourself.
David (Austin Tx)
To quote Will Smith:
"I gotta GET me one of THOSE!"
"Uncle B, how about lasagna? And carrot cake?"
fer sure.
feeling better?
What Alex Trebek was doing in 1963...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=F2n-smszmpk
Richard
You forgot this one -
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GU2w72KAkQQ
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GU2w72KAkQQ
Gilly Gonzylon | 02.23.08 - 1:05 am | #
LOLOLOLOLOL
did you know that the first title of "The Origin of Species" was "Monkey, Monkey, Monkey, Monkey...YOU!"?
Eddie Izzard told me so.
He's still got it.
if any of you like dave chappelle, comedy channel has his san francisco appearance on right now. we all need a bit of a laugh tonight.
I'm getting tired.
Good night, friends.
Damn, sin! (passes beverage to the Jeopardy dude)
Uncle Blodge, strangely, yes.
I've cried a lot in the past couple of days.
I just hate the way it clogs my sinuses
Nite, Terry
I don't think Larkin and go-go boots have ever been in the same sentence.
leibniz, monadΩ | 02.23.08 - 1:04 am | #
Progress has been made - even tonight.
if any of you like dave chappelle, comedy channel has his san francisco appearance on right now. we all need a bit of a laugh tonight.
TEBB, uppity female | 02.23.08 - 1:06 am | #
That's a good one!
Sleep tight, Terry C.
leibniz: when a deeply beloved teacher in my medical school, Charles Loeser, died, it occurred to me that his epitaph could be a verse from that great old song:
I've only this one consolation
As out of this old world I go:
I know that the next generation
Will resemble old Rosin the Beau
And thirty five years later, that one still gets me.
I'm listening to a cd I found while cleaning. Antigone Rising. Not bad, sort of cheerful.
Echidne
I have that CD. I like it a lot.
A couple of years ago, The Other Woman dragged me to a Rob Thomas show (I'm not a fan, she is, or was). I didn't know anything about the show, but when we walked in, Antigone Rising was the opening act. And we'd missed most of it hanging out with friends in the theater lobby. Dammit.
If you didn't before, you now must check this out.
What a prick!
13And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
ProfWombat | 02.23.08 - 1:01 am | #
Thanks. You could have an entire room full of people discuss that for an entire day and not begin to touch the importance of that to our daily lives.
So here's WC Fields playing ping pong:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tagzxULZHSo
http://www.videovat.com/videos/8...ame-
street.aspx
dave chapelle and sesame street
"I just hate the way it clogs my sinuses"
consider it a side effect
Planet of the Apes for me, at least until Daniel goes down for good.
then it's sleepytime.
all bottles are made, all chores are done.
Heston shaving with the rusty knife, and nnow the doll in the cave. 70's classic.
tired got to go to bed later
So here's WC Fields playing ping pong:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tagzxULZHSo
ProfWombat | 02.23.08 - 1:10 am | #
I love him. A forgotten legend.
Auden's greatest poem, stupidly slandered by Orwell and rejected by the old Auden.
All I have is a voice
To undo the folded lie,
The romantic lie in the brain
Of the sensual man-in-the-street
And the lie of Authority
Whose buildings grope the sky:
There is no such thing as the State
And no one exists alone;
Hunger allows no choice
To the citizen or the police;
We must love one another or die.
'I don't think Larkin and go-go boots have ever been in the same sentence.'
rootless can now retire, his work done with honor...
Falling asleep here ... g'night all.
Catch you patriotz tomorrowz.
Prof Wombat,
My favorite college professor through serendipity helped get me into graduate school though he had been dead for a good five or six years.
Funny, Trebek's accent hasn't changed. He still sounds just as Canadian as he did in '63.
People now tell me that I've got an American accent. I've been living in the US since 1995.
Jesus is just another member of the family.
where the hell can I buy one of those? the digg/playgirl/flickr threads offer no clues.
People now tell me that I've got an American accent. I've been living in the US since 1995.
I will never have an American accent, sadly.
I will never have an American accent, sadly.
Echidne | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 1:15 am | #
Accents are sexy!
rootless: thank you
Planet of the Apes for me
Directed by Franklin J. Schaffner, whose next movie was Patton. Rod Serling was one of the screenwriters.
I love him. A forgotten legend.
Gilly Gonzylon
One of the best jugglers to make it to the screen. Arbuckle was another.
Which isn't worth much, but it's what I have.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
NOT true. It IS worth a lot! You know I called some "in person friends" when my dad died, but I also wanted to come here and talk. I wrote emails to some folks that I'm also close to. Words have power, your personalities come through.
Sallyh. I know how much you go through. I read how much you struggle with your daughter's poor life choices and so sending your love MEANS something to me. It counts. It just seems that you are words in a thread but there is a living breathing person behind those words. Someone who lives challenges that I just can't begin imagine. And you continue as best you can. That is courage in a difficult situation.
So THANK YOU. I'm honored by your support and good wishes. As I am by all of your good wishes.
When Alora died I wrote a post about it and how much she meant to Sarah Deere. And how we were in support of Sarah and honors the good child she was. I didn't know her, but I did.
This connection here is not, "the neighbor coming over with a cake", but it IS something. It is our modern sending a card, giving the other a note, "We share in your life and in your pain, we will laugh and grieve and gripe with you." And we are linked in so many ways. I"m sure the freepers have their tender moments, but I doubt is is anything like us, there is too much hate and anger for the heart and humor I see here every day.
Accents are sexy!
The after-the-head-cold accent is quite sexy. I always wish people could freeze in that stage.
Love to you Spocko
for spocko:
Every old man I see
Reminds me of my father
When he had fallen in love with death
One time when sheaves were gathered.
That man I saw in Gardiner Street
Stumble on the kerb was one,
He stared at me half-eyed,
I might have been his son.
And I remember the musician
Faltering over his fiddle
In Bayswater, London.
He too set me the riddle.
Every old man I see
In October-coloured weather
Seems to say to me
"I was once your father."
Nite, everyone. Been a good thread. Thanks to you all.
WC Fields was so brilliant. There is some film or another where he is attempting to walk across a roof holding an umbrella and does the most amazing acrobatics.
leibniz, monadΩ
i hope my kids will be lucky enough to have at least one professor like you, or sallyh, thers, molly, rory, those guys from FL, or even that pantless pseudo-prof NTodd.
TIme for bed. Thanks, everybody. Got your back, kids...
What if the stars were to burn
With a love for me that I could not return?
If equal affections cannot be,
Then let the more loving one be me.
Auden
I will never have an American accent, sadly.
Echidne
I recently got tagged as Canadian.
Finally lost the "Kansas English" I learned in El Paso, whew.
Auden is under-rated. "Law Like Love" is a magnificent poem.
OK. Out of here.
"But here in my heart, I give you the best of my love."
It's amazing to me that the Founders probably had a much more pronounced British accent than we do today.
It just hit me, ...
If I was named Boehner I would cry every time I had to speak in public too.
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari | 02.23.08 - 1:19 am |
Thank you wonderful. I think I'll book mark and copy this thread.
I think I'm going to start reading some Auden, thanks ProfWombat.
It's amazing to me that the Founders probably had a much more pronounced British accent than we do today.
MP
And the were mostly multi-lingual too.
And the were mostly multi-lingual too.
Barry from Alaska 01-20-09
What happened to our British accent? It leveled out, and morphed into other stuff.
What happened to our British accent? It leveled out, and morphed into other stuff.
MP
It was the coffee. Once we stopped with the tea, things kinda mellered out.
People tell me that my mother had a very strong accent. When you grow up with it, you never recognize it as such.
Here's some video of my mother...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=lvF9qNRsMvw
She was from Montreal.
It was the coffee. Once we stopped with the tea, things kinda mellered out.
Barry from Alaska 01-20-09
It's weird. We had an enormous influx of Brits into our colonies, but so did the Aussies.
They kept their accent much more than we did.
What happened to our British accent? It leveled out, and morphed into other stuff.
My theory is the German immigration. Consider "kid" and Das Kind.
Anyone see that SNL sketch where Jefferson, Franklin and some other founder was brought to today's time to fix the country? They weren't briefed on what the last 200 or so years were like so in the press conference they were asked questions about slaves and women? It was pretty funny. I wish the "strict constructionists" had read it.
Alright off to bed for me. It was so nice talking to you all.
LLAP,
Spocko
http://www.kvue.com/video/index....tml?
nvid=220945
Great video news coverage of Obama rally in Austin
[belches]
NTodd, instead of belching, how about a hug?
Okay, you can do both
They kept their accent much more than we did.
MP
Are you kidding?
It may sound like to most folks, but the Aussie is so far from any UK twang.
And the words? Lordy, I don't know how they came up with em.
L8R, Spocko
Are you kidding?
It may sound like to most folks, but the Aussie is so far from any UK twang.
No, I mean just the delivery, not the dialect.
OOoooh, big meltdown on the Orange Satan. Seems Maher allowed a couple of wingers to go unabated to the quarterback, and the kiddies are howling.
NTodd, instead of belching, how about a hug?
[hug]
[belch]
It may sound like to most folks, but the Aussie is so far from any UK twang.
And the words? Lordy, I don't know how they came up with em.
Barry from Alaska 01-20-09 | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 1:34 am | #
It's all in the vowels - "Black" pronounced like "Blake". "Bakersfield" pronounced like "Bikersfield"( for US southern twang)
I'll tell you though, women speaking a gutteral language is too teh sexy to me.
NTodd, why, thank you!
I think I've done the right things. I hope.
After all, it's all about Maddy.
Sorry, I know it was supposed to be all about you
just read the rather chilling point of this post and satisfied that it's true - the msm can call the reporter a liar or shut up but I really came by to do to JMM's post what eschatonians do all the time and Fondle Yon Template"
Expect exposing crap like this to be a major factor in this year's election campaign.
that's why they hate the blogosphere - David Frum was shouting about the left blogosphere on cnn the other night as if there were only one opinion on each and every subject contained herein - when we all know the only thing we all agree on is that we are being lied to non-stop and there is murder theivery and criminal anti-contitutional goings on not being prosecuted.
'night good people!
I think I've done the right things. I hope.
You have.
One Watt, great video but you need a ghetto steady cam. You can buy the comercal ones and they do work, but all you really need is to mount a weight with enough length from the camera to slow down motion jitters.
I've built one, and what mine was were some PVC pipe, a camera mount at the top, and a weight (a brake disk from some sort of auto painted with tractor paint) bolted to the bottom of the pipe, with one horizontal pipe mid way to help to hold it.
Much simpler than the collection of parallelograms and springs that the commercial ones are made of.
you absolutely did the right thing on so many levels, sallyh
BTW, NTodd, why does Maddy look so much like you? Hmm?
none, thank you. It's a tough thing to live with, and there are always doubts.
This group has been so damn supportive.
Much simpler than the collection of parallelograms and springs that the commercial ones are made of.
Doug | 02.23.08 - 1:40 am | #
One of these thingees...
http://www.b-hague.co.uk/Camcord...izer%
20HCS3.htm
BTW, NTodd, why does Maddy look so much like you? Hmm?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 02.23.08 - 1:42 am | #
Maddy has a beard?
Gilly, no, but she looks very much like...well, Ntodd.
Most beautiful child in the world. And the most precious.
That's why I went to court for her today.
none, thank you. It's a tough thing to live with, and there are always doubts.
This group has been so damn supportive.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 02.23.08 - 1:43 am | #
no doubts sallyh. the alternatives are simply not acceptable.
OK, its painful to watch.
Representative for All Alaska Don Young condescended to a presser the other day.
He makes it painfully clear that he thinks all the reporters are beneath him, continues to berate them asking back such questions as "how long have you lived here?"
He's a jerk of the first magnitude.
Warning, 17 minutes long.
Barry, I think 17 minutes of jerkdom is more than i can take
Good night, bats.
Good night, bats.
Echidne | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 1:47 a
Pizza be with you!
Echidne, blessed be.
Barry, I think 17 minutes of jerkdom is more than i can take
Define "jerkdom"
-16 year old Leibniz.
What happened to Sarah Deere? Is she OK?
Leibniz, I think Sarah, being a dignified woman, unlike myself, prefers to keep her pain private.
You mean you aren't really 16???
What happened to Sarah Deere? Is she OK?
kito | 02.23.08 - 1:49 am | #
Haven't seen her post in a month or longer.
What happened to Sarah Deere? Is she OK?
She used to hang out here at night, though I'm not here often anymore other than on weekends. I've not seen her for awhile.
er, I said something about Sarah Deere? She is missed here.
Define "jerkdom"
Don Young.
Define "jerkdom"
-16 year old Leibniz.
leibniz, monadΩ | 02.23.08 - 1:49 am | #
For some reason, the philosopher leibniz always makes me think of the earthquake in Lisbon.
er, I said something about Sarah Deere? She is missed here.
I hope she's OK.
For some reason, the philosopher leibniz always makes me think of the earthquake in Lisbon.
So the earth moved for you?
An Anchorage Daily News guy got under Don's skin, and Don lashed out at "Foreign owned newspapers", that is to say...
since the ADN is a McClatchy owned paper, from the lower 48, it's "foreign.
What an asshole.
NEW YORK (AP) — Jennifer Lopez gave birth to twins early Friday, making the singer and husband Marc Anthony the parents of a boy and a girl after one of pop music's most closely watched pregnancies.
Lopez representative Simon Fields told People magazine the babies were born shortly after midnight on New York's Long Island, with the 11-pound, 7-ounce girl arriving first, followed by her 16-pound brother minutes later. The location was not identified.
Okay. I fucked with the numbers.
For some reason, the philosopher leibniz always makes me think of the earthquake in Lisbon.
So the earth moved for you?
leibniz, monadΩ | 02.23.08 - 1:55 am | #
Not exactly.
"There is a concatenation of all events in the best of possible worlds; for, in short, had you not been kicked out of a fine castle for the love of Miss Cunegund; had you not been put into the Inquisition; had you not traveled over America on foot; had you not run the Baron through the body; and had you not lost all your sheep, which you brought from the good country of El Dorado, you would not have been here to eat preserved citrons and pistachio nuts."
"Excellently observed," answered Candide; "but let us cultivate our garden."
"Excellently observed," answered Candide; "but let us cultivate our garden."
I have a libertarian colleague who loves to quote this line while fucking over job candidates and junior professors. His office looks like something an insurance salesman would have.
Libertarians all deserve a good slappin' .
Pastor Melissa Scott had a good out chorus tonight.
Next, if you have a structured settlement and need money now ...
-
Okay. I fucked with the numbers.
Gilly Gonzylon
< best poker-face>
Uhm... which way?
According to the rules of Libertarianism, isn't it fair to do anything you want to do to a Libertarian?
I have a libertarian colleague who loves to quote this line while fucking over job candidates and junior professors. His office looks like something an insurance salesman would have.
leibniz, monadΩ | 02.23.08 - 2:02 am | #
I don't have a clear image of the office an insurance salesman would have.
Libertarian university professors are a particularly ridiculous brand of libertarian. It's also a popular "philosophy" among Silicon Valley beneficiaries of 50 years of government subsidy of R&D.
Kito, libertarians are just Republicans that want to smoke dope.
And with that, I bid you all the best of dreams, and the best of sleep.
Love to all of you.
Really, if you got the time, it's worth watching, Don Young being the face of the Republican Party.
http://www.ktuu.com/global/video...age&
clipFormat=
I now it's long, but he discounts reporters questions right and left because of a) how long they have lived in the state, b) did you vote for me?, c)your company is owned by a non Alaskan outfit.
He also seems to have "no idea" how so many things under his control happened . No idea is his meme.
Good lord, at at the end of the interview Young threatens to take down the largest newspaper in Alaska.
libertarians are just Republicans that want to smoke dope.
I'll shamelessly steal that.
'Night, Sallyh.
BAGHDAD - A series of rockets or mortars were fired toward the U.S.-protected Green Zone early Saturday, a day after radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr ordered his Mahdi Army militia fighters to cease attacks for another six months.
Nearly 10 blasts were heard in the sprawling area in central Baghdad starting about 6:15 a.m., and the U.S. public address system there warned people to "duck and cover" and to stay away from windows.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/
20080...iraq_green_zone
And shape up!
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Really? The Maher discussion on TGOS is a hoot. One of the children just referred to Noam Chompsky.
Israel Defense Forces soldiers arrested a senior operative of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine in the Ein Beit el Ma refugee camp in the West Bank town of Nablus, Israel Radio reported on Saturday.
Palestinian witnesses told Israel Radio that the contingent of troops surrounded the building in which the suspect, Majdi Mabruka, took refuge, and used an explosive charge to break through the entrance. Israeli authorities have sought Mabruka's arrest for a number of years, during which the PFLP operative successfully eluded the grasp of security forces. In one incident a year and a half ago, Mabruka was wounded by IDF gunfire, according to Israel Radio.
Significant detachments of IDF soldiers were also observed operating in the West Bank town of Tul Karm late Friday night, Palestinians told Israel Radio.
A group of Palestinian militants who walked out of a Palestinian Authority prison in the West Bank town of Nablus on Thursday returned to jail voluntarily, a Palestinian security official said Friday.
The prisoners, members of the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, had been involved in fighting against the IDF in recent months and were hiding in Nablus' old city, the Kasba. Some six weeks ago, the group turned itself in to the PA, following a comprehensive IDF operation in the Kasba.
The IDF agreed to let the militants, who are wanted by Israel, stay in the Palestinian prison on condition that the Palestinian security forces keep them incarcerated and deny them weapons and contact with terror organizations until Israel pardons them.
So far, however, Israel has refused to include the men in the pardon agreement for Fatah fighters, under which Palestinians give up their arms in return for an Israeli amnesty.
Thursday afternoon the entire group broke out of prison, apparently with the help of their Palestinian wardens. One of the escaped prisoners is Mahdi Abu Ghazale, commander of the Al-Aqsa Brigades' Night Horsemen.
Ghazale announced Thursday that the group had decided to leave after the prison authorities reneged on the conditions they had agreed on when they turned themselves in. Ghazale and his group were set to hold a news conference in Nablus but apparently canceled, fearing for their
safety.
Palestinian journalists who visited Jneid Prison recently reported that the militants had been kept in real prison conditions. They had mobile phones but were not allowed to contact militant organizations and their calls were being monitored.
Among the other fugitives are Omar Akub, Ala Akub, and Sufian Kandil. PA officials have tried to persuade the militants to turn themselves in.
An Israeli defense source said that as far as Israel knew, only nine militants had broken out of the prison. The IDF warned the PA that if it did not capture the escapees within 24 hours the army would take action against them, as at least some of them are seen as a risk to Israel's security.
Saturday, February 23, 2008; Page A08
AN OFFICER, AND A GENTLEMAN'S REQUEST
Seeking Obama's Mystery Soldier
Sen. John W. Warner (R-Va.), former chairman of the Armed Services Committee, sent a stern letter to colleague Barack Obama yesterday, challenging him to provide information about an Army officer he cited in Thursday night's Democratic presidential debate.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...8022203058.html
Stupid partisan asshole. Stories and evidence of under-equipping and under-manning in both operations are as common as Repubican crooks.
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If you're going to the Chinese New Year Parade tomorrow in SF, bring your umbrella...
Stupid partisan asshole. Stories and evidence of under-equipping and under-manning in both operations are as common as Repubican crooks.
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QuentinCompson, Marxisting
Lemme see, independently verified by two separate news sources... Yea Warner is doing cracker jack job of yellow ribbon support the troops.
I always figured that a libertarianism was an immature philosophy, because they hadn't thought it through...
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I always figured that a libertarianism was an immature philosophy, because they hadn't thought it through...
It's primordial to be sure. The "I got mine, fuck you" idea is attractive to a lot of people.
But it aint humanitarian.
Lemme see, independently verified by two separate news sources... Yea Warner is doing cracker jack job of yellow ribbon support the troops.
Warner is one the list of known shitheads. I remember when the revelations of Al Ghraib came out. He was upset that it got leaked to the press and not terribly upset that it happened.
That was the impression I got.
That was the impression I got.
Doug
His hand written "I object for now" note?
He's a turn coat. Was all high and mighty till he decided to not run again, and ever since he's been in BushCo.
I wonder.. do they have something on him too?
It's primordial to be sure. The "I got mine, fuck you" idea is attractive to a lot of people.
Barry from Alaska 01-20-09
Yeah, childadult Americans love it, until they need help from the state.
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Yeah, childadult Americans love it, until they need help from the state.
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MisterX
Paultards
Barry, check this out.
The first class accommodations that you can see here are what I'm making now.
Some of the models I've been seeing for the A380 prototypes are even nicer. The page this links to is all B777 stuff.
http://mediacentre.ekgroup.com/P...sp?C1=52&
C2=113
Barry, check this out.
The first class accommodations that you can see here are what I'm making now.
Get me ticket for that, nice.
Some lovely acoustic music for a late night:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D...h?
v=DyruR1rJ3wE
Emirates... heee I should have known.
B-2 Stealth bomber crash in Guam. Ho-hum.
Baby C'mon
Best Malkmus ever vid ever...
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Barack Obama Is Your New Bicycle
If you're going to the Chinese New Year Parade tomorrow in SF, bring your umbrella...
gung hey fat choy
the pilots both ejected safely.
plantsman, did i read that you have a pulled intercostal?
i also have one. how long before you can take a deep breath without pian?
Best Malkmus ever vid ever...
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MisterX | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 3:02 am | #
Nice one. I'm a big fan of Pavement and Steve.
I've been getting some back pain. What seems to help is to wear some flatter shoes. I've gone back to wearing sperry topsiders, which are almost like walking barefoot. Nope walking on concrete does not bother me, shoes with much 'support' or heels do.
none, if you read it, someone dreamed it up. Among my many infirmities, I do not count that one.
i pulled everything from my right groin to my right ear last friday. ( i have predisposing orthopedic conditions.) surprisingly no back pain, this is all anterior.
i have been hobbling barefoot around the house in nightclothes, have not been able to put on clothes or shoes yet. couldn't eat for three days, still can't take a deep breath.
When last I heard from Sarah, the pain of her granddaughter's passing was slowly abating, with acute flashes of emotional pain and depression. I suspect she is sleeping more normally, is all.
i must have misread then, sorry.
NYT's Quotation Of The Day:
"I have the same feelings about wind as I had about the best oil field I ever found."
BOONE PICKENS, the Texas oilman, on the potential of wind power.
i suspect that you are right about Sarah Deere, plantsman. if it were me, i'd be taking a break from everything non-essential right about now.
Whoops!
Too many "ever"s... and HERE'S a better version of BABY C'MON, if you're interested...
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there are a lot of wind farms going up in the texas panhandle. i've seen them.
Sarah came here to vent her anguish late at night, often under the influence. My own experiences with grief have not been so different.
m own griefs and losses were never acknowledged nor validated an i most certainly was not given the chance to vent. so i repressed my grief for almost thirty years.
while i am recovered now, i am so very sympathetic to the notion better out than in.
we're only human.
Bob Herbert: Hillary On The High Road?
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/2...=th&
oref=slogin
When the death of a partner struck, I was utterly unprepared for the emotional roller coaster of the first 30 days, and my empathy for other peoples' loss was undeveloped. Over time, it seemed I could simply observe people, and see if they had known loss or not. Perhaps that was a delusion, but it was strangely comforting, nonetheless
Hey Sen. Warner, remember this?
Thursday Jan 18, 2007 23:02:32 EST
A letter from about 1,000 active-duty, Guard and reserve members calling for Congress to end the war in Iraq was delivered to Capitol Hill on Tuesday.
Rep. James McGovern, D-Mass., who accepted what in legal terms is known as an appeal for redress — because service members are prohibited from petitioning Congress — said the call for an immediate end to U.S. military operations in Iraq will be turned over to the clerk of the House of Representatives and published in the Congressional Record so it can be read by all members of Congress.
The letter contains just three sentences: “As a patriotic American proud to serve the nation in uniform, I respectfully urge my political leaders in Congress to support the prompt withdrawal of all American military forces and bases from Iraq. Staying in Iraq will not work and is not worth the price. It is time for U.S. troops to come home.”
MarineTimes.
If ou want to know how bad things are, ask any of the people that signed those letters. Asshat.
Another Graceful Ghost
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N...h?
v=NQfgrKwFJMg
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i don't know that that is a delusion. what i found out was that it did not take me long to discern via conversation if another individual had the same sort of understanding of loss that i had.
my experience truly served to isolate me from a great many people. neither i nor they had the tools to bridge the experiental gap.
Barack Obama Is Your New Bicycle is great, Mrs A!
Gail Collins: A Bad Year To Be A Mallard.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/2....html?th&
emc=th
yes we can't
i fear`the kids are going to become so disillusioned.
if we win.
Astonishing! The Scrabulous Game at Facebook has been "acting up" and not functioning correctly of late. This morning, a banner on Facebook warns potential players of bugs and promises a fix!
That may be, but I think they understand it's on them and us whether or not we fail or succeed. And as long as I'm drawing breath, I'd rather give it a go than lie down and let the GOP steamroll us all.
Gail Collins is rather the Anti-MoDo, dry and droll without being snotty or flashy, or mean for the hell of it.
well, what choice do we have really? i don't feel that it's on me because come march 4, i am going to vote my conscience. and he's not it.
imo, who/what this gets put down to is true believing.
Our primary in Oregon comes so late, one feels it'll all be over but the shouting -- and because of my life's experience, he is my choice. But as many have said, I will support our nominee over anyone the R's put up.
it will be decided march 4
for better, or as i fear, for worse.
but i'd best not say that too loud.
Mad props to whoever put together the music before the Austin Obama rally -- Black Joe Lewis, can't imagine any other campaign being that hip! Although of course they must have had a chat reminding them not to play the hilarious and wildly un-PC "B*tch I Love You." (They didn't play it last time I saw them at the Continental Club, either.)
Also cracked me up that the PA was playing Stevie Wonder's "Signed, Sealed, Delivered (I'm Yours)" as people left.
I saw an interesting graph yesterday tracking voter self-identification by Party or lack of it. People registered as Republicans are now only 26% of registered voters. Democrats hold 40%, and independents and/or undeclared the remainder.
It could be a good year.
big blow on kos. maher sat back while two wingnuts trashed Our Guy on his show.
the children are besides themselves.
siiiiiiighhh
I hope the smug derision of Obama supporters by Clinton partisans makes them feel really good and special about themselves - and I'm holding my tongue further than that.
it could be
or clean white america could decide they'd rather have the aged but experienced military guy instead of the great looking kid.
i'm not a clinton partisan.
i'm an edwards gal.
i just don't see it happening, plantsman.
Plantsman, that's amazing. 40% Dem and 26% rep? Holy crap. This is most surprising election I can remember.
And most of the surprises have been good ones, so far.
None, I hope the younger voters show up in Nov like they are now. They don't much care about race or gender. And this time, there may be more of them than the crusty old farts.
I hope the smug derision of Obama supporters by Clinton partisans makes them feel really good and special about themselves
bust a union, Tech Stocks DOW 96,000, cultists.
L.Ron Hubbard will lead the Party forward. just you wait and see.
i hope they do too, the other wa.
i hope the dem wave is not simply a fashion statement.
If you wanted a music the white guys couldn't play why did you cite white guys as leading influences?
The terms "grandfather", "grandmother", and "granddaughter" have been applied to longcase clocks. Although there is no specifically defined difference among these terms, the general perception seems to be that a clock smaller than 1.5m (5 feet) is a granddaughter; over 1.5m (5 feet) is a grandmother; and over 1.8m (6 feet) is a grandfather.
I hope the smug derision of Obama supporters by Clinton partisans makes them feel really good and special about themselves - and I'm holding my tongue further than that.
plantsman, silly | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 3:57 am
For someone holding their tongue, you sure do dish a whole lot of shit.
between this and calling Hillary a vicious attack hound, I haven't heard much else out of you about the election.
In 1918, certain remains of Geronimo were stolen in a grave robbery. Three members of the Yale secret society of Skull and Bones served as Army volunteers at Fort Sill during World War I; one of those three members was Prescott Bush, father of the forty-first President of the United States George H. W. Bush and grandfather of George W. Bush. They reportedly stole Geronimo's skull, some bones, and other items, including Geronimo's prized silver bridle, from the Apache Indian Prisoner of War Cemetery. The stolen items were alleged to have been taken to the society's tomb-like headquarters on the Yale University campus, and are supposedly used in rituals practiced by the group, one of which is said to be kissing the skull of Geronimo as an initiation.
It ain't over till I say it's over.
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In a contemporary letter discovered by the Yale historian Marc Wortman and published in the Yale Alumni Magazine in 2006, society member Winter Mead wrote to F. Trubee Davison:
The skull of the worthy Geronimo the Terrible, exhumed from its tomb at Fort Sill by your club... is now safe inside the tomb ("tomb" is the building at Yale University's Skull and Bones) and bone together with his well worn femurs, bit and saddle horn.[7]
This prompted the Indian chief's great-grandson, Harlyn Geronimo of Mescalero, New Mexico, to write to President Bush requesting his help in returning the remains:
According to our traditions the remains of this sort, especially in this state when the grave was desecrated ... need to be reburied with the proper rituals ... to return the dignity and let his spirits rest in peace.
It ain't over till I say it's over.
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QuentinCompson, Marxisting | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 4:23 am
you da proverbial fat lady?
and if I wanted to really cause a tempest in a teacup, I'd point to wampum's translation of a le monde piece on the election calling all 3 remaining candidates neo-cons.
indeed
well, good night everyone.
This can only be good news for Republicans
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/
20080...uorJ6ZGOUms0NUE
:::A series of rockets or mortars were fired toward the U.S.-protected Green Zone early Saturday, a day after radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr ordered his Mahdi Army militia fighters to cease attacks for another six months.
Nearly 10 blasts were heard in the sprawling area in central Baghdad starting about 6:15 a.m., and the U.S. public address system there warned people to "duck and cover" and to stay away from windows.:::
Duck and cover. Duck and cover.
http://www.lemonde.fr/web/chat/0...503@45-
2,0.html
Le Monde on the foreign policy of the 4 candidates and how little they actually differ (obama is gonna bomb anywhere he wants unilaterally to get his enemies as president.)
only 2 visitors? wow. EXCELLENT!
guess people didn't want to contribute anything beyond their personal feelings of being put upon.
guess people didn't want to contribute anything beyond their personal feelings of being put upon.
who could resist such a welcoming
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/
20080...EB2rxq7Ci2yFz4D
McCain defends lobbyist ties
By LIBBY QUAID, Associated Press Writer
:::McCain was asked how he squares his image as a fighter of special interests with the fact that his senior campaign team is largely made up with lobbyists. McCain has battled to reform the system of influence in Washington through campaign finance restrictions, new ethics rules and opposition to the use of earmarks by members of Congress to fund pet projects.
"I square it one way," McCain said. "The right to represent interests or groups of Americans is a constitutional right.:::
Well, I suppose you are wondering why I have called you all together . . . .
who could resist such a welcoming
baba durag - eclipsed | 02.23.08 - 5:21 am
Oh noes.... the derision being heaped upon me...
Oh noes.... the derision being heaped upon me...
take that evil partisan. my candidate will crush your candidate.
Well, I suppose you are wondering why I have called you all together . . . .
DWD - Delighted with Dems. | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 5:23 am
are ya announcing someone else died??? or did Draco rise from the grave?
Nah, just getting up looking for the pain pills, finding them, and then waiting for them to kick in.
How's things on the side of the world, Tom?
not bad. it's warm for a bit with high humidity and raining.
and I haven't had to rush off as an escort to the ER for a couple of weeks.
Bush's Pentagon is like many other Pentagon's of the past. They lie. It is part of their job. But thanks to Bush and Cheney, most people are smart enough to know the Bush administration at all levels and departments lie.
I don't care if the Pentagon confirms this soldiers story or not. It is enough for me that they haven't denied it.
I don't care if the Pentagon confirms this soldiers story or not. It is enough for me that they haven't denied it.
foolme1ns | 02.23.08 - 5:35 am
But they are doing the agressive non-denial denial. which may be enough to confuse and muddy the water for the average person.
Like McCain with the lobbyists issue.
So DWD, are the pain pills still for the back?
Tom
I think the average people have caught on to this administration and their lies. This isn't 2001, and we have all seen what these people do. They've even lost a lot of republicans trust.
You can fool some of the people all of the time, but not most of the people. And most of the people are very tired of this crap now.
meds have kicked in, later, 'bats
The Pentagon, if the Dems win the White House, is the first order of business. It will need to be swept clean with a new broom. There is a lot of detritus lying around there that needs removing.
Tom. Yeah, the pills are for the neck and back and the spasms that go with them.
I get tired of it but there really is no choice so . . .
The Pentagon, if the Dems win the White House, is the first order of business. It will need to be swept clean with a new broom. There is a lot of detritus lying around there that needs removing.
DWD - Delighted with Dems. | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 5:43 am
from the pentagon to colorado springs.
7 years of firings and politically/religious inspired promotions have done a lot of damage.
But there are a lot of other departments that need thorough decontamination as well. From state to interior to justice.
DWD - Delighted with Dems
Well don't forget that the Pentagon has suffered like all other agencies under this horrible administration. They fired a lot of very good, honorable people who stood up to them, so what is left are the sycophantic dregs. Bush and Cheney have dishonored and destroyed so much of our government at all levels that it will take decades to rebuild them.
It isn't difficult at all to distrust any part of our government because of Bush and Cheney's gutting of honorable people and that is a damned shame
I get tired of it but there really is no choice so . . .
DWD - Delighted with Dems. | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 5:44 am
sleep well and may you wake with the knots and spasms gone.
morning, all.
the soldier's story would never have been told by Obama, his staff wouldn't have let him be that deceived, if it hadn't been vetted and they hadn't made sure the soldier wouldn't deny it later. hope they can protect his identity.
cold here now, but it's going into the 70F's tomorrow, and I've had daffodils blooming in the lawn.
Ruth,
my daffodils and crocuses are all up too, and all of the tulip trees around town are blooming. Those always looks so strange to me, with their blooms on the naked brances.
hope they can protect his identity.
Ruth | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 5:49 am
isn't that the worst indictment of the Busheviks? that you have to protect whistleblowers identities for telling the truth from a pack of vindictive wolves.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/
20080...d2r0TrI9tayBhIF
Surge in gas prices could be short-lived
By JOHN WILEN, AP Business Writer
::: Gas prices jumped Friday to their highest level since June, a possible preview of what many analysts believe will be a record spike in pump prices this spring.
But the current price surge could be short-lived. While gasoline has risen sharply in recent days in response to oil's dramatic climb to a new record above $101 a barrel, gas supplies have quietly grown to their highest level in 14 years.
"We've got a major supply cushion," said Jim Ritterbusch, president of energy consultancy Ritterbusch and Associates in Galena, Ill.:::
Raise your hands if you believe that the major supply cushion will translate in to significantly lower gas prices at the pump.
An op-ed at WaPo by the defense at Gitmo, who are quite correct in pointing out that they will be defending a tortured prisoner, so they can never find out the truth. at http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...8022201124.html
tulip trees, like japonica, in fact they're the same species I believe. We have japonica all over the place around here, tho I don't have any.
funny, a big supply of gasoline, could it be that because it costs too much, people are avoiding using that stuff? like me.
Good morning, beautiful people!
I have the results of the Dems Abroad Global Primary up, over at my place. (I know, this is 2-day-old news. But no one has mentioned it.)
There's no sucker like a wall street sucker. P T Barnum could've taken millions from these clowns.
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080223/
w...all_street.html
Rumors of an Ambac bailout, sent the dow surging in the last half hour of trading on Friday. Weeeeeeeeeee
Marcellina, actually I saw it on the news here, but guess dems abroad wasn't in any comments I read. thanks.
Ruth,
I don't know the real names of most plants, just the common ones, and sometimes, not even those, so I make up names.
Good morning starshines.
pax
I don't know the real names of most plants, just the common ones, and sometimes, not even those, so I make up names.
foolme1ns | 02.23.08 - 6:07 am
so what are the colour of the flowers on this tulip tree?
all that I have seen are pink or pink and white striped. We've just always called them tulip trees. I don't have any either, but there is on in the courtyard where I work and several around the neighborhood.
Morning peeps.
Good morning Marcellina, Arabella, and qla.
all that I have seen are pink or pink and white striped. We've just always called them tulip trees. I don't have any either, but there is on in the courtyard where I work and several around the neighborhood.
foolme1ns | 02.23.08 - 6:12 am
Cool. Not sure what it is. Was thinking with the description of the bare branches that it might be the african tulip tree or a bombax ceiba (silk tree)
Something like this?
http://www.banana-tree.com/catal...es/
image343.jpg
Ruth
Those seem flatter and more star like flowers than what I am seeing around here. I will try to find a picture.
Or more like this (magnolia)?
http://gallery.hd.org/_exhibits/...ngland-1-
BG.jpg
Ruth
This is what we have growing around here
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1...7817732.jpg?
v=0
your last picture didn't load, but I've never seen a magnolia that didn't have leaves.
Rumors of an Ambac bailout, sent the dow surging in the last half hour of trading on Friday. Weeeeeeeeeee
foolme1ns
which is so funny particularly because any bailout is going to come out of our pockets, and won't solve the underlying problems, housing price dive and credit maxed out evrywhere... also loss of buying power by Merkins.
morning, fm1.
Plantsman, that is the "joy" of learning new languages, you think you know enough to converse and then you start stumbling over names of plants, birds, parts of mechanical things...
I have a great picture-lexicon (by Duden) with detailed drawings of things like, oh, ships, bicycles, office interiors, human anatomy... with all the German names for the things in them. It was a lifesaver.
Good morning ql and Marcellina.
I will spend the day with my mother, as I do every Saturday. I treasure every moment with her.
My today bring us the blessings of peace to the blogosphere.
pax
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/2...tml?
ref=opinion
Joseph Stiglitz v. Larry Summers on reactions by the IMF forced on Asian countries in the wake of the 97 crisis and the Fed's policies in the last 6 months.
Good morning fm1.
pax
the pic that foolme1ns put up is what we called tulip trees in D.C., and I think I recall they were at the arboretum there, called 'camellia japonica', no leaves until later.
Ruth
This is what we have growing around here
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/
1...1...7817732.jpg? v=0
foolme1ns | 02.23.08 - 6:18 am
This is definitely a magnolia.
Arabella, thanks for your comment at my blog!
I never know for sure what interests other people, so I just post what interests me. And then it's fun to see if other people like it or not.
Tulip trees are the tallest trees we have around here. They are magnificent.
pax
Tom, the effects on the rest of the world of our reckless financial community argues for their having restrictions on investment in our lawless sector, Wall /street.
http://biotech.tipo.gov.tw/plant...an-tung-
fan.jpg
This is the camellia japonica. what you've posted isn't this. The US magnolia usually flowers very early in spring before it has leaves.
Arabella, thanks for peaceful wishes, something tells me that we'll have some few commenters looking to destroy just that. which usually means I move on for awhile.
Morning, folks. Anyone up for a game?
Tom, that is lovely. I think we don't have those here, and we're in a tropical zone that now includes palm trees, since it was revised upward a few years back.
My pleasure, Marcellina.
Who took those photos of the buildings?
pax
Hello moonbats
Do we need thread?
Who took those photos of the buildings?
I did, from the passenger seat of a moving car in traffic! Just pointed and hoped for the best. Digital cameras are wonderful things.
Ruth - I walk away when it gets too intense. I love this place. It's not worth losing friendships by posting when I'm angry.
pax
It's Molly and mooboo!
We're off to a great start.
pax
http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0WTef...3852619/**http%
This is the magnolia that I am familiar with. The southern magnolia which is an evergreen.
I don't know a lot about different trees. Just what I am familiar with.
Molly, for dialup, which I am now beyond, it's going to be hard to get on now. so, yeah, pls.
Molly - yes we do.
pax
Hiya Arabella!
You speak the truth; I've been trying to be better.
'morning, cats and kittens! Happy Caturday.
Sheets it is.
Arabella, it seems silly to me to use this place for fighting, when you have such an enjoyable bunch of good minds. yep, have to walk away, come back when its calmed down.
Morning V
Rep. Renzi (R-AZ), McCain,
asshole buddies.
http://democrats.org/a/2008/02/r..._renzi_r-
az.php
Hmmm that might make a good poster to stick up on a wingnut bulletin board I've noticed a couple miles away.
thanks, for sheets, Molly!
This is the magnolia that I am familiar with. The southern magnolia which is an evergreen.
I don't know a lot about different trees. Just what I am familiar with.
foolme1ns | 02.23.08 - 6:37 am
The photo didn't load for me, but I think you're talking about the magnolia grandiflora.
This would be the magnolia soulangiana
http://images.google.com.hk/
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