HULK SMASHED
Comedy stylings of Atrios:
"last night was actually a bad night for Clinton"
Try the veal...
Helloooo!
hadenough,
clinton is behind. she needs blowouts to pickup delegates given the way that they're apportioned. If she pulls off a miracle and does that, fine by me. But she's running out of opportunties to do so.
Last night was as good as it's going to get for Clinton.
Which cannot be encouraging for her.
The math is changed in the sense that there is one less inning left for Clinton to hit her grand slam.
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Oops, how did that get in there?
Clinton made a foul shot when she needed to hit 50 3 pointers.
No, no! MSNBC talking heads (well, okay, not Rachel, of whom I am enamored!) said it was a good night for Clinton.
What was the final delegate count, btw?
You're in the tank for Kodos, so of course you would spin it this way.
No, no! MSNBC talking heads (well, okay, not Rachel, of whom I am enamored!) said it was a good night for Clinton.
Well, it was. Just not good enough.
"So the 10 point spread is close to the dividing line but on Hillary's side of it." from the TPM article
LAtest results show her only winning by 8.6%.
Her strategy seems to be HackAnObama.
there is one less inning left for Clinton to hit her grand slam
Clinton made a foul shot when she needed to hit 50 3 pointers
[searches for hurling analogy; fails]
If Clinton wins every contest 60-40, Obama will lead 1651 to 1583 in pledged delegates.
I, too, say good night to Clinton.
I said good night!
/Fez
Cap Day
Figures.
"Carol Shepp McCain never existed"-cable news
Hillary still needs 71% of all of the remaining delegates to pull this off.
71%. That's a pretty high bar there.
I find the talk from the chattering class interesting, the way in which they're hyping her victory. Scar was seriously pondering Obama's "electability" this morning, with the racist, Pat Buchanan, egging him on, and Matthews blathering on about how Obama can't win the Catholic vote.
Two weeks ago, I honestly expected to see a 20% blow-out in Hillary's favor in Pennsylvania. In actuality, her victory is around 9%. Essentially, based on the delegate count, Obama neutralized her victory in PA.
Good morning.
anybody know how I can get a precinct map of Lancaster, PA?
google is not my friend.
Ah, yes, but this morning it's "Why can't Obama close the deal?"
This campaign is being scripted by like four guys what haven't gotten laid in sixteen years.
A.
In the final hour of "Joke," Pat Buchanan, Tweety, Joke, and Mrs. Greenspan all agreed that BHO is "too faculty lounge" to win this thing.
Figures.
I said good day!
there is one less inning left for Clinton to hit her grand slam
Clinton made a foul shot when she needed to hit 50 3 pointers
Her goal was deemed offside.
Ah, yes, but this morning it's "Why can't Obama close the deal?"
This campaign is being scripted by like four guys what haven't gotten laid in sixteen years.
A.
Athenae
It's all about the horse race.
Which is why I'm simply ready for it to be over.
Christ, my fucking head hurts.
These last primaries seem more and more to be a beauty contest with the superdelegates as the judges. I've said for some time here this is all aimed at the superdelegates. So does a big finish by HRC tip things in her favor, or does the BO total delegates/popular vote win the day.
We can rail away at our respective positions on this, but it's out of our hands, I think.
This campaign is being scripted by like four guys what haven't gotten laid in sixteen years.
I am not scripting this campaign! Wait, what?
Current delegate totals:
Obama Pledged: 1484 Super Delegates: 230 Total: 1714
Clinton Pledged: 1330 Super Delegates: 254 Total: 1584
It's no longer about whether Hillary can win at the ballot box, or even whether she can win among superdelegates.
She can't win by the current rules. Period.
The question is, how WILL she win? Will she somehow manage to get Florida and Michigan counted? Will she sue?
Will any of us ultimately be doing ourselves any favors by voting for McCain Lite?
I would like to accompany res ipsa to Yankee Stadium on tiara day.
I don't agree. It's a long shot, but Clinton's best bet is to either close the popular vote gap completely or come very close to doing so in the remaining primaries. At that point, she can make a decent argument to SDs and hope to sway them, keeping in mind that neither candidate is going to have enough pledged delegates to win. By that standard, last night she closed the gap by about 215K, which looking forward is on the low to middle range of what she had to do. Whether it plays out the rest of the way as she hopes, I dunno, but it's a rational strategy. Stay tuned.
Vicki, you should have heard him last night, lecturing Harold Ford on "if I was a Democrat, this is what I'd be doing, blah blah blah."
YOU AIN'T A DEMOCRAT, FUCKSTICK, YOU NEVER WILL BE, SO STFU.
I've about had it with Republicans telling Democrats what they'd do if they were Democrats and Democrats actually LISTENING.
A.
I can't find the final delegate count either... Anyone???
I have to say that that in a certain sense, this has been good for Obama in the sense that he knows that he has to do better with white women and older white voters when he goes up against McCain. I get the sense that the older white voters, for whom arguments of experience perhaps resonate more (and who may have more racial biases), will be the hardest to convince.
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This is exactly the result predicted months ago. Except that race-baiting, nuke-brandishing Billary and the minority Machine Democrats plus the cross-dressing Limbaugh Republicans minus the true Independents (60% who could not vote) barely managed a 10% edge, not the 20% forecast.
Of course she's calling this a major victory: She's almost out of corporate money.
Billary: This is your wake-up call: IT'S TIME TO GO. Please. Try and PRETEND you care about your country, your Party, your people, your issues. And not just your YOU.
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Yo, Athenae.
Check your email, you scamp.
Hillary did well in the PA primary. She is a good candidate and would be a good president.
But once again we'll hear that Obama can't win the big states, with many electoral votes, and that this win in Pennsylvania proves it. For Pennsylvania, and probably the others, this argument is specious.
In addition to Hillary's usual 15 year head start, in Pennsylvania Obama faced the formidible Governor Ed Rendell and the Democratic establishment, including the mayors of Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, and most other cities.
Also, he was not running against John McCain nor any other white male. Hillary benefits considerably from the votes of white women. These women are not going to defect to McCain in the general election. Nor will most other Hillary voters suddenly turn Republican.
So the claim that Obama can't win the big states is nonsense. He can and he will.
In the larger picture, it of course would be important and beneficial for th United States to elect a competent woman to the presidency. But women have led countries before and such a positive step does not
compare to the prospect of a talented and inspiring black man as leader of the world's major, largely white country
homer www.altara.blogspot.com
I'd like to know what their fund raising numbers look like starting with last night and into the next primary. Will Clinton raise enough money to keep winning or will she go dark in a day or so due to lack of funds. Same goes for Obama.
But how many delegates did Gravel pick up? How 'bout Kodo? Kang?
Do not ask for whom the pigeon squeals, McStain. It squeals for thee.
there is one less inning left for Clinton to hit her grand slam
Clinton made a foul shot when she needed to hit 50 3 pointers
Her goal was deemed offside.
Marcellina
She is disqualified due to an illegally-machined crankshaft.
Her goal was deemed offside.
There is no deeming in baseball.
/Tom Hanks
I would like to accompany res ipsa to Yankee Stadium on tiara day.
I'd be honored, sir.
Current delegate totals:
Obama Pledged: 1484 Super Delegates: 230 Total: 1714
Clinton Pledged: 1330 Super Delegates: 254 Total: 1584
Holden Caulfield
So, when is he going to drop out already?
Obama won 63 delegates in PA; Clinton, 78.
anybody know how I can get a precinct map of Lancaster, PA?
Gimme a few, I'll see if I've got the tiger laying around.
Harold Ford ain't, either.
TKK, if I can get them, I will, promise.
"hadenough,
clinton is behind. she needs blowouts to pickup delegates given the way that they're apportioned. If she pulls off a miracle and does that, fine by me. But she's running out of opportunties to do so.
Atrios"
Neither candidate can win on pledged delegates. Supers will decide this race. A 9-10 point win in PA is not a “bad night for Clinton.”
Obama had and spent more money than God and he had 6 weeks to close the deal. Didn’t happen.
Supers, the ones that will decide this race, have to be thinking hard.
Somehow she has to win a lot of delegates, and opportunities to do so lessen with each contest.
I'm not sure I agree with this. Short of Obama actually attaining the 2050 mark, or whatever it is, there's always the opportunity for Clinton in the smoke-filled back room.
It's only fairly recently that the Convention was simply there to annoint the winner. It didn't used to be that way.
Why did McCain continue to lose after he was the Gas and Oil Party's nominee?
It's all about the horse race.
Which is why I'm simply ready for it to be over.
Rmj, Bemused Theologist
That's when the horse race between the war hero and the bitter orange juice drinker begins!
This campaign is being scripted by like four guys what haven't gotten laid in sixteen years.
I am not scripting this campaign! Wait, what?
The Kenosha Kid
You're stealing simels' schtick.
So does a big finish by HRC tip things in her favor, or does the BO total delegates/popular vote win the day.
We can rail away at our respective positions on this, but it's out of our hands, I think.
noblejoanie
IOW, is it a matter of who won the last state in the last primary election, and the entire process be damned?
Gee, that'll be a great result guaranteed to rally the troops around the nominee.
No. 2 in my "Reasons Hillary Doesn't Have A Snowball's Chance in Hell."
But women have led countries before and such a positive step does not
compare to the prospect of a talented and inspiring black man as leader of the world's major, largely white country
Um...what???
Hillary still needs 71% of all of the remaining delegates to pull this off.
71%. That's a pretty high bar there.
I'd say it was impossible. I don't remember any election where the winner pulled 71% of the vote.
Will she sue?
I think that is what Bill would have her do.
if the argument is that none of the remaining elections actually matter except to the extent that they influence the superdelegates... well, I suppose, but...
there is one less inning left for Clinton to hit her grand slam
Clinton made a foul shot when she needed to hit 50 3 pointers
[searches for hurling analogy; fails]
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HURLING:
COM ON TIPP'
FOOK EM, FOOK EM GOOD, TIPP'
(crote park, 1963)
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I literally had visions of guys coming on set to haul Buchanan away in a net last night. The man's insane.
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It's only fairly recently that the Convention was simply there to annoint the winner. It didn't used to be that way.
Adam Hominem-unbanned since 08
See my "Reason #2," just above. What was done before primaries is irrelevant to expectations now.
Supers, the ones that will decide this race, have to be thinking hard.
They've been breaking for Obama as of late.
Hillary still needs 71% of all of the remaining delegates to pull this off.
71%. That's a pretty high bar there.
And the current polling suggesting that he's gonna stomp her undead hiney in NC and Indiana in two weeks, not the other way around. And that's almost all the rest of the delegates. Barring some serious goat-fucking video, Obama has it sewed up.
I dislike all the meta-stuff like how a win is really a loss (which means I'm probably not a real political junkie), but I would think that Clinton's campaign would have realized that when she assumed the mantle of Republican-lite, she blew her commanding lead.
Like I said downstairs, the person who starts running against McCain is the one who will be seen as the "real" Democratic nominee. Any further internecine bullshit is only dragging down the party.
I literally had visions of guys coming on set to haul Buchanan away in a net last night. The man's insane.
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Sparkle Plenty
I can only put up with him when Rachel's there.
You people seem obsessed over "delegates". You do realize most people don't know what the hell you're talking about and couldn't care less. If June polls favor Clinton, she'll be nominated, that's all there is to it. But don't mind me, you just keep on about how double digit losses in major swing states are good for Obama, that should work out well for you.
Sometimes in basketball when a team is behind by 20 points with a minute left, the team that is behind keeps making intentional fouls. No hope of winning, they just want to prolong losing as long as possible, so they keep hacking away, grabbing the other players around the waist, etc. Takes about half an hour to play the last minute. Every now and then someone gets hurt with an intentional foul. It's a really fucked up way to lose.
Think of this like an actual foot race. A 24-mile marathon, just to pick something arbitrary.
Obama is at mile 22, and he's 2 miles ahead of Clinton. Last night, she got herself 100 yards closer. Any pundit trying to earn ratings, is going to talk about how she's gaining ground, and boy, this thing might not be over. Otherwise, viewers change the channel because it's over.
Even though it's over, because she's not really going to sprint at 20mph for the rest of the race.
Why did McCain continue to lose after he was the Gas and Oil Party's nominee?
lipreader
Gas & Oil Party - that is so true. Of course, it would be too partisan and irresponsible and divisive for a Democrat to use that to capitalize on Americans' discontent with spiraling gas prices.
Will she sue?
I think that is what Bill would have her do.
Cheeto
Yesterday in these threads folks were all in a tizzy over the possibilty that HRC would lose PA but spin it as a victory. Today, it's some other ridiculous scenario.
For God's sake, people, the worst does not always come to pass. And HRC is not Satan.
For the little while I watched MSNBC (having far more fun in Athenae's crackvan), the most obnoxious thing I heard was Joe Scarborough asking Harold Ford to pretend he was Bill Clinton and script how he should tell his wife to bow out. You have to be fucking kidding me, tell the little wife the party is over. Get her mink stole, warm up the car, escort her out. And Harold Ford didn't miss a beat, started play acting he was Bill Clinton taking the little woman to task.
Obama won 63 delegates in PA; Clinton, 78.
Vicki
Wiki says 69 for Obama, 82 for Clinton, 7 still unapportioned.
It also paints a bleak picture for Clinton going forward - losing the big states (NC, IN, OR) and winning only in smaller states (KY, WV).
david does not understand how the primary system works, apparently.
IOW, is it a matter of who won the last state in the last primary election, and the entire process be damned?
What have you won for me lately?
I literally had visions of guys coming on set to haul Buchanan away in a net last night. The man's insane.
I find it vaguely hypnotic when Pat really gets going about something, what with the way his jowls start to shimmy and sway side to side.
But don't mind me, you just keep on about how double digit losses in major swing states are good for Obama, that should work out well for you.
david
If you think Obama would lose to McCain in New York, California, Massachusetts, and Pennsylvania, you're very dumb.
Obama won 63 delegates in PA; Clinton, 78.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
Thank you. So on a "good night" she won 55% of the delegates and she needs to win 71% of the remaining. Not going to happen.
I'd say it was impossible. I don't remember any election where the winner pulled 71% of the vote.
Billy B
Obama could go into stasis and win, but I think he is going to work Indiana and North Carolina very hard. There is some truth to the notion that competing hard in every state will help you in the general.
I literally had visions of guys coming on set to haul Buchanan away in a net last night. The man's insane.
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Sparkle Plenty
He is a smidge away from saying the n word or calling Hillary a cee you next tuesday. Excitement like he experienced last night negates his super-ego and brings out the true racist id that is Buchanon.
david does not understand how the primary system works, apparently.
Holden Caulfield
The MSM anointed Hillary the winner before New Hampshire. Why didn't we just listen to them and avoid all this bickering?
Tweety was the one who came up with the "too faculty lounge" thing, but Buchanan was digging on it. He thinks HRC has made inroads with "real people."
And Harold Ford didn't miss a beat, started play acting he was Bill Clinton taking the little woman to task.
Classy.
And Harold Ford didn't miss a beat, started play acting he was Bill Clinton taking the little woman to task.
noblejoanie
Harold Ford is the second worst Democratic office holder. Joe Lieberman would be the first.
"If June polls favor Clinton, she'll be nominated, that's all there is to it. "
You don't actually believe this, do you? Because it's not even remotely plausible. Some superdelegates may pick her if she's polling well in June, but not nearly enough to overcome her deficit.
I may win the lottery next year, but I'm not budgeting my spending on that assumption.
Barring some serious goat-fucking video, Obama has it sewed up.
And it would have to be a dead boy-goat at that...
harold ford holds no office.
noblejoanie, I am really glad I missed that.
And Lieberman isn't a Dem.
Wiki says 69 for Obama, 82 for Clinton, 7 still unapportioned.
I pulled the delegate stats from Real Clear Politics.
Atrios, when's the big move?
If you think Obama would lose to McCain in New York, California, Massachusetts, and Pennsylvania, you're very dumb.
DJ
I don't think you help your case by including Massachusetts in there.
McGovern won Massachusetts.
"Carol Shepp McCain never existed"-cable news
jr
We should save that for the general. Could provoke a "You can't handle the truth" moment out of McSame if jabbed in at just the right time.
Tony Snow isn't a commentator.
Tweety was the one who came up with the "too faculty lounge" thing, but Buchanan was digging on it. He thinks HRC has made inroads with "real people."
res ipsa loquitur
Damn! Relegated to an abstraction again!
He thinks HRC has made inroads with "real people."
res ipsa loquitur
"Real people. Like in Leave it to Beaver or Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid! I love movies and teevee! HAH!"
/tweety
If June polls favor Clinton, she'll be nominated, that's all there is to it.
Doesn't everyone just lurrve unsubstantiated proclamations as such?
harold ford holds no office.
Atrios
I sit corrected.
He thinks HRC has made inroads with "real people."
Real people are old, white and blue collar.
Atrios, when's the big move?
Right after the Metamucil kicks in.
Doesn't everyone just lurrve unsubstantiated proclamations as such?
Billy B
I know you don't want me on your side, but I'm on your side here.
There's an awful lot of unsubstantiated proclaiming going on.
If June polls favor Clinton, she'll be nominated, that's all there is to it.
It will be done in the beginning of June. The rest of the month won't matter.
Gee, my college doesn't have a faculty lounge. Maybe that's my problem.
Real Clear Politics 2008 Democratic Delegates
You people seem obsessed over "delegates". You do realize most people don't know what the hell you're talking about and couldn't care less. If June polls favor Clinton, she'll be nominated, that's all there is to it.
Does anyone have an "uninformed gibberish to English" translator handy?
Lieberman was elected as an independent, running on the Lieberman for Connecticut Party.
If June polls favor Clinton, she'll be nominated, that's all there is to it.
Why have primaries when we can just have a June poll?
And Harold Ford didn't miss a beat, started play acting he was Bill Clinton taking the little woman to task.
I can assure everyone that Bill Clinton does not "take the little woman to task".
Good grief.
Someone on DKos put this in perspective: the bottom line is that before Pennsylvania, Clinton needed to win 66% of the remaining pledged delegates; now she needs to win 71% of those left.
For God's sake, people, the worst does not always come to pass
I hope you are being sarcastic.
1) supreme court appoints Bush over Gore even though Gore wins popoular vote.
2)9/11 is reshaped as a reason to attack a defenseless country. Patriot Act, 4000 US dead, 500,000 Iraqi's dead. N Korea gets nuke, Iran could be bombed any day.
The worst is here!
Gee, my college doesn't have a faculty lounge. Maybe that's my problem.
Molly Ivors
Then you would want access to social networking sites on the intertubes...
Kevin Parker owes me a coke. Upthread, dude.
I don't think you help your case by including Massachusetts in there.
McGovern won Massachusetts.
So did Sen. Clinton. The point is that either Sen. Clinton or Sen. Obama would win the traditional big Democratic states in the general election (NY, CA, IL, PA, MA, NJ, MI), as well as the rest of New England, Maryland, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Oregon, and Washington.
Hillary might excel in the talent and swimsuit competitions....stay tuned!
Lieberman was elected as an independent, running on the Lieberman for Connecticut Party.
Molly Ivors
Gotcha. I knew that. Really I did.
If June polls favor Clinton...
June Pole..... great stripper name.
Someone on DKos put this in perspective: the bottom line is that before Pennsylvania, Clinton needed to win 66% of the remaining pledged delegates; now she needs to win 71% of those left.
Kevin W. Parker
So it was a GREAT night for Clinton!
I can assure everyone that Bill Clinton does not "take the little woman to task".
But according to MoDo, Michelle does put Barack to task.
If we're looking for a silver lining here, it's that all this is pushing her right around the bend.
You're stealing simels' schtick.
This particular routine is held in the public doman by all Jewish men.
I'm a little surprised Pittstown went to Clinton but ...
As expected though, Obama's lead in delegates has hardly been dented. The AP has Obama 130 delegates ahead now. On May 6, North Carolina will choose most of its 134 delegates and Indiana will choose most of its 85 delegates. It is a given at this point, that Obama will win a sweeping victory in North Carolina and since it is larger than Indiana, even a landslide for Clinton will result in Obama having probably something like a 130-150 delegate lead on May 7. After that there just aren't enough states left for Clinton to catch up in the pledged delegates. It's going to be up to the superdelegates.
http://www.electoral-vote.com/
ev...Apr23.html#news
Gee, my college doesn't have a faculty lounge. Maybe that's my problem.
Molly Ivors
You've got a lot of problems. You've got a fancy advance degree. You've got boobs. And you're okay with your husband sharing child care/housework duties.
You're about as "real" as me.
Then you would want access to social networking sites on the intertubes...
Oh, noes!
If we're looking for a silver lining here, it's that all this is pushing her right around the bend.
No thanks to you, and your part. 
Gee, my college doesn't have a faculty lounge. Maybe that's my problem.
Molly Ivors
Then you would want access to social networking sites on the intertubes...
Do you really want your colleagues there to witness "coffee meeting monitor"?
You're about as "real" as me.
Eeeek!
Someone on DKos put this in perspective: the bottom line is that before Pennsylvania, Clinton needed to win 66% of the remaining pledged delegates; now she needs to win 71% of those left.
Kevin W. Parker
Someone get the media to take a 6 month remedial math course. Then show them those numbers. Maybe that will change official narrative.
Nah, who am I kidding? They want a horse race, reality be damned.
Yes, we will.
I guess Prof Wombat isn't here...
This particular routine is held in the public doman by all Jewish men.
I'm sorry; I'll haver to see your bris scar.
Shut up, Butler.
I know you don't want me on your side, but I'm on your side here.
What the fuck are you talking about? I might bust your ass, but I gots no problems, just disagreements.
I have best friends that, if you saw us conversing, you'd be sure we hated each other because we always are cussing each other incessantly.
It is a given at this point, that Obama will win a sweeping victory in North Carolina and since it is larger than Indiana, even a landslide for Clinton will result in Obama having probably something like a 130-150 delegate lead on May 7.
But there are no real people in those states.
if the argument is that none of the remaining elections actually matter except to the extent that they influence the superdelegates... well, I suppose, but...
Atrios
That's exactly what I've been saying. Absent a blowout, neither one is going to have the necessary delegates without the superdelegates.
I'm not trying to make an argument for or against either candidate, just saying it's going to come down to what persuades the superdelegates. We all have opinions as to what SHOULD persuade them, of course.
I'm sorry; I'll haver to see your bris scar.
Molly Ivors
I bet you say that to all the boys.
Hey Kenosha,
I went to my first Seder last weekend. We did the Santa Cruz Haggadah!
It is a given at this point, that Obama will win a sweeping victory in North Carolina and since it is larger than Indiana, even a landslide for Clinton will result in Obama having probably something like a 130-150 delegate lead on May 7. After that there just aren't enough states left for Clinton to catch up in the pledged delegates. It's going to be up to the superdelegates.
Who must support Clinton because....well, I'm not sure why they must support Clinton, but apparently they must.
If Hillary wins = Castrating lesbian bitch murderer.
If Obama wins = Fancy black guy with enormous white-wimmin-attracting dong.
This particular routine is held in the public doman by all Jewish men.
I'm sorry; I'll haver to see your bris scar.
Molly Ivors
NO FLIRTING!
No thanks to you, and your part.
I live to serve.
"if the argument is that none of the remaining elections actually matter except to the extent that they influence the superdelegates... well, I suppose, but...
Atrios"
If neither candidate gets to the magic number of 2025 or whatever it is then the supers can decide. They are not bound by pledged delegate count. Those are the rules. So the remaining elections are important for influencing the superdelegates. The margins can be so small by the time all the elections are done a lead can be meaningless.
Also an 8-10 point win is good [npr now says 8].
Obviously, as a mere layperson, I have failed to grasp the magical significance of your "delegates". When Sen Clinton leads in national polls by 6 or 7% and Sen Obama is widely perceived as an irritable, hemming and hawing walking glass jaw in June, superdelegates will bow before the power of your 2% margin in -what did you call them? Oh - "delegates" and nominate the obviously less favored candidate. Now I understand "how primaries work". Thanks for that.
Why have primaries when we can just have a June poll?
Falstaff
Ironic, isn't it. The Republican nominating process is more democratic than the Demoocratic one. Maybe we are all in the wrong party. Entryism!
Faculty Lounge-- We have one, but I have never seen anyone in there except for blood drives. No faculty dining room, no nothin. And no one wants one, since no one has time to use it these days.
But my previous institution (Williams) had a whole house for faculty, with a bar, lovely dining room and -get this- a bowling alley in the basement
The only true Haggadah is the Maxwell House Haggadah
But according to MoDo, Michelle does put Barack to task.
Completely different scenario, MI.
Also an 8-10 point win is good [npr now says 8].
So when NPR says it was 7.5 in about 30 minutes it will be "bad"?
If the superdelegates try to have some kind of a putsch against the will of all the primary and caucus voters, that will be the death knell of the Democratic party. Shit, even I would be tempted to go there and dish out a little 1968 on their asses.
Billyb--I've been waiting to find you here. Here's my pitch about lawns, dear friend!
http://www.organicgardening.com/...77-
1698,00.html
Gee, my college doesn't have a faculty lounge. Maybe that's my problem.
Molly Ivors
Hell, we don't even have faculty parking places at my school.
I just got asked to work with a committee on establishing a faculty senate. I think our first order of business should be to get a lounge with a 52" TV and leather recliners for all senior faculty (the junior folk can have that polyester suede stuff). Oh, and a wet bar.
girrrrl power!
Mark my words: Tweety will use that "too faculty lounge" shit tonight on the teevee.
He was very pleased with himself when he came up with that metaphor.
You're not a girrrrl, Butler.
Also an 8-10 point win is good [npr now says 8].
So when NPR says it was 7.5 in about 30 minutes it will be "bad"?
Holden Caulfield
I'm still fuzzy on this whole "good/bad" thing, Egon.