I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
aha
Oh my
aha2
Thanks Echidne. I'll try not to weep all over it, since it's nice and clean.
well I guess not!
Thanks MOM!!
Sallyh, I left a message for you below.
Sally, I wish I could do something to help.
*rolling in sheets*
I'll try not to weep all over it, since it's nice and clean.
Nice, clean sheets are overrated.
4Legs, you guys and the kittehs do more than you will ever know.
Dead threaded.
Anyway, have 7700+ students all starting to get on my case about why doesn't the library have 50+ copies of my textbook available to me for as long as I want?
'Night all. 
aangus | Homepage | 08.25.07 - 12:48 am
Here we go folks
Trouble In Paradise
Maliki will exit and Allawi will step in and ring in glorious change for Iraq that Bush will trumpet...
The dominos are set.
4Legs, you guys and the kittehs do more than you will ever know.
I'm glad I'm useful to someone. 
Conan Obrien on Democrats dating more: "There's nothing more of a turn on than limited legislative power."
I'll have kitties tomorrow.
Really cute pics.
I have a funny accent, too. sulk
So why haven't you called me?
NTodd, Hungry For Mimi | Homepage | 08.25.07 - 12:51 am | #
So why haven't you called me?
Will you reverse the charges?
Will you reverse the charges?
Less fiddy cent, sure.
It's beautiful, NTodd. I love blackeyed Susans.
Zieg Hill! Received at TPM
----
Put on Notice
Mailbag ...
Soooo tired of bloggers jumping on the bash Clinton bandwagon.
A loser...?
If you'd stop for a moment, you would be exposed to the reality that Clinton is dominating the debates, dominating the polls. On the ground here in California, she has in place a growing organization that I guarantee you will crush any opposition - Democratic primary, or general election against the Repugs.
It's time the blogosphere, and people like you, began to clean up your act. Stop acting so reactively. And perhaps realize that your unique hits aren't necessarily a measure of your credibility.
----
Lighten up, Francis.
So why haven't you called me?
Will you reverse the charges?
Echidne
don't do it. I hear they now ask for your blood type and underwear size ...
I'll have kitties tomorrow.
Really cute pics.
Did U finally get UR new camera??
don't do it. I hear they now ask for your blood type and underwear size ...
All blood types are just fine with me.
Focus, NTodd doesn't know his underwear size.
He's freeballing it.
Hmm, haven't seen a troll in the last 3 threads...suppose it's safe to turn off killfile? It's really a pain in the ass to refresh; every time I do i get a message about do I want to run a routine or some such crap.
Ah what the hell, my Nemesis is usually not here this time of night. I shall live dangerously.
NTodd wears underwear? That's not what it says on the men's room wall...
I love blackeyed Susans.
Me too. The flowers are nice as well.
Did U finally get UR new camera??
fourlegsrgood, gots pitchfork
No but I've been really really busy.
What with hanging with Barack Obama and Elizabeth Edwards....
'night, all
Evening batses.
I am uploading some pictures of my new puppy. I would show them to you, but Flickr is going kind of slow right now.
David, how is Lindy? I've been thinking about her.
Oh, and from the last thread, please tell me that "dsrptng ur nrl pthwyz." is "disrupting your neural pathways"? I had to stare at that one a good long time, which probably does not speak well about my neural pathways, and/or alcohol consumption.
Oy.
O'Hanlon has a stupid op-ed up in the WAPO.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...id=opinionsbox1
critics such as Rep. Jack Murtha and Salon columnist Glenn Greenwald have suggested that our analyses are based on a few days of military "dog-and-pony shows." Our assessments are based on our observations as well as on years of study.
I hope Hecate turns him into a giant boil.
I hope Hecate turns him into a giant boil.
Attached to a very tiny man.
David, how is Lindy? I've been thinking about her.
Sallyh,
Thanks for asking. Ok, but her hips are looking truly bad. There is a large bony protrusion on one side, and she as lost so much weight recently, that I cannot tell what is normal hip geometry, and what is abnormal.
I have an appointment with the vet on Monday, the soonest they can get me in. We shall see, but I think I have accepted that it is time.
Focus, NTodd doesn't know his underwear size.
He's freeballing it.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
he may very well go crotchless ... but i can joke no more
YOUR COUNTRY AT WORK AUGUST 2007
http://www.nytimes.com/
Hmm, haven't seen a troll in the last 3 threads
They do seem to arrive in clusters. Lends creedence to the single troll theory.
critics such as Rep. Jack Murtha and Salon columnist Glenn Greenwald have suggested that our analyses are based on a few days of military "dog-and-pony shows." Our assessments are based on our observations as well as on years of study.
What a coinkydink! My assessment of their fuckwittery is also based on my observations as well as on years of study. Punkass bitch.
I am uploading some pictures of my new puppy.
What kind of puppy?
Damn it, I meant credence.
I always spell it like the band name.
Joe Galloway ain't impressed with this whole surge thing...
I've been thinking, that huge billion light-year empty spot in space just discovered, is probably end-stage capitalism. It's by far the wealthiest area in space, but only on paper.
Chinese Seek to
Buy a U.S. Maker of Disk Drives
American government officials have national security concerns about a Chinese company’s interest in acquiring Seagate Technology
" Our assessments are based on our observations as well as on years of study.'
dates, times, and locations? just for context, of course...
David, I'm so sorry. I know you gave her a wonderful life, and that she is grateful.
Pictures uploaded.
I don't have any decent pictures of Lindy, my greyhound. However, here are some pictures, two of Oscar my six year old daschund, and a few of Rufus, my six month old Basset Hound puppy.
David - peace, man.
I always spell it like the band name.
Buzz Bomb
Our trolls would be greatly enhanced by the addition of some creedence, so your observation works just as well no matter the spelling Buzz. I can just see Toby, for instance, humming away merrily to "Bad Moon Rising" as he gets to the line "there's a bathroom on the right..."
Seems like chocolate ice cream - vodka floats are in order.
I suppose it would have helped to include the link:
http://flickr.com/photos/3999530...647301767/show/
We shall see, but I think I have accepted that it is time.
David (Austin Tx)
That's rough. I'm sorry.
I hope Hecate turns him into a giant boil.
fourlegsrgood, gots pitchfork
How would you tell the difference?
David, beautiful babies.
Oh sure, leave me alone downstairs with nothing but a box of Tide and dirty sheets.
Barry, you do laundry?
I like that in a man.
Thanks everyone.
I have had Lindy since 1999. She is a retired racer, and has been a great companion. I will miss her.
Barry, you do laundry?
I like that in a man.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Do laundry?
I just said I had a box of Tide and dirty sheets, nothing about putting them together.
I've been doing my own laundry since I was 6. I can't believe I'm not finished yet.
NTodd, you think you'd do it once and you'd be done with it, for Chrissakes.
I've been doing my own laundry since I was 6. I can't believe I'm not finished yet.
NTodd, Hungry For Mimi
Step 1: Don't wear pants
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Less laundry, PROFIT!
I'm very happy so far with the results of two weeks of physical therapy on my arthritic right foot. Ultrasound is a gift of the gods. The damn thing is acting almost normally.
Bo, that's good news.
Would it work on my brain?
The great thing about being in the Army, was the laundry day was pretty quick .
Everything, socks and underwear included, were the same shades of green or brown. Everything gets tossed into the washer, than drier. No sorting required.
It is rough, David. I'm in a similar situation with my Henrietta. I just don't know if she is going to get better or not and if the quality of her life is sufficient if she doesn't get better. She is fifteen years old.
Would it work on my brain -
Sallyh
Haven't heard of adhesions in neural tissue. 'Fraid the result would be like scrambled eggs done in the microwave.
Bo, couldn't feel any worse than it does now.
Haven't heard of adhesions in neural tissue. 'Fraid the result would be like scrambled eggs done in the microwave.
bo
Must drill tiny vent hole.
Btw, Sallyh, that's what the vodka float is for. Starts out tasting weird, but by the time you get to the bottom, you don't give a damn.
Echidne, I'm so sorry about Henrietta. I remember what you went through with Hank.
So hard.
Echidne,
Lindy is the same age. It's something I have been attempting to prepare for, for some time now.
A couple of weeks ago was the hardest, because that is when her age truly just caught up to her, and I could no longer pretend otherwise.
bo, try msm from the health
food store or drugstore for your arthritis
I just hope whatever is happening in my kids' lives, that I won't be cut off from my granddaughter. I love her so much.
hey I got an email that says I am owed a contract payment by the Central Bank of Nigeria. There's a cell number I'm supposed to call...
DO NOT SEND MAIL OR CALL THE IMPOTERS LIKE FAKE SMITH AND CITI BANK WHO HAS TOOK YOUR FUND WITHOUT TRANSFER, WE WILL FINDOUTTHE WAY TO TRANSFER YOUR FUND INTO YOUR ACCOUNT BY CBN.
sounds legit to me.
A couple of weeks ago was the hardest, because that is when her age truly just caught up to her, and I could no longer pretend otherwise.
Yes. Henrietta has hearing trouble and wobbly legs now and sometimes I'm not sure how much she sees. And she's getting thin.
But she sniffs outside and wags her tail at me and eats with good appetite and doesn't seem to be in any great pain. But she has certainly started acting her age recently.
bo, try msm from the health
food store or drugstore for your arthritis - mimi
Hopeless ibuprofen addict. Next best thing to the pt was being told I could safely take double the dose on the label.
Thanks, sallyh. The bad poetry thread would have been more cheerful.
No sorting required.
David (Austin Tx)
I have never sorted anything. I have, over time though, learned to be suspicious of any new garment whose tag indicates origins in Sri Lanka.
msm is good for older dogs as well
I have never sorted anything. I have, over time though, learned to be suspicious of any new garment whose tag indicates origins in Sri Lanka.
I once washed a red sock with some white underwear. The odd thing was that one cami was dyed pink but the laces on it were dyed red. They were both white initially.
Correction, the lace was dyed green.
msm is good for older dogs as well - mimi
Was I just called and old son-of-a-bitch?
I keeeed, I keeed.
;^)
And an illiterate one, too.
Correction, the lace was dyed green.
Echidne
Dammit, I was just working out a rationale as to how the laces could have turned red (different fiber of greater absorbtivity, if there is such a word which spellcheck indicates there is not) but to have it turn green requires a difference at a higher level of chemical knowledge than my pay grade covers.
Hopeless ibuprofen addict. Next best thing to the pt was being told I could safely take double the dose on the label.
bo
My doctor gave me a massive bottle of prescription-strength iboprofen for something that cleared up in two days. Four or five pills would have been sufficient, but he gave me several hundred. Thanks, Doc!
Time for me to head out but before departing am going to go out on a limb: Sallyh, forgive me if this is overly intrusive. But I think you might want to consider two possible courses of action. One is to, as you mentioned earlier, talking to your doctor about a tweak in medication. If your doc is also a therapist some conversation there might also do a world of good.
The other is to give yourself a talking-to about disengaging from involvement in the kids' lives. I read here a great deal more than I talk and I've seen you get dreadfully wrapped up in the goings-on of their lives, both Mlle and SIL. Both of them, hard as it is for all of you, need to get used to living on their own as a family taking care of themselves and each other. Otherwise resentment is going to build up until somebody explodes and well, then, nothing good can come of that course.
just a thought. Again forgive me if this is overly intrusive.
to those who heard the message I left NTodd, do I have a funny accent?
Allawi - Iraq's new strong man
Michael O'Hanlon just dropped a deuce on the WaPo op-ed page
what's the skinny about chertoff taking over for gonzo ??
Dammit, I was just working out a rationale as to how the laces could have turned red (different fiber of greater absorbtivity, if there is such a word which spellcheck indicates there is not) but to have it turn green requires a difference at a higher level of chemical knowledge than my pay grade covers.
I couldn't understand it, either. And the pink cami stayed pink from thereafter and so did the lace stay green.
the pink cami stayed pink from thereafter and so did the lace stay green.
Well, given how you girlz are genetically predisposed to liking pink, that's a good thing...
okay, I get the message. I am being shunned. Ciao.
Well, given how you girlz are genetically predisposed to liking pink, that's a good thing...
I especially like the healthy flush on your gravatar. Shows good breeding status.
tada!!
I especially like the healthy flush on your gravatar. Shows good breeding status.
Yes, plus the Hitler mustachio indicates I have a huge cock.
Yes, plus the Hitler mustachio indicates I have a huge cock.
I thought you had dogs and cats.
'm out.
Later batses.
Yes, plus the Hitler mustachio indicates I have a huge cock.
NTodd, Hungry For Mimi
And that you're not fond of matzoh.
ah, I hate it when critters suffer and either die on us, or we have to put them down, as the saying goes.
Tragedy, heartache.
Losing Family.
Xan, it's not overly intrusive. It's very caring. Thank you.
I try to keep my distance, but inevitably, they seem to draw me back in.
Yes, plus the Hitler mustachio indicates I have a huge cock. - NTodd, Hungry For Mimi
Or proficiency in the Dirty Sanchez.
ah, I hate it when critters suffer and either die on us, or we have to put them down, as the saying goes.
Tragedy, heartache.
Losing Family.
Sarah Deere
My kittehs are only 8 and healthy, but I know some day I will have to make that decision, and I'm already steeling myself for it. Sucks.
Here's some candid nudibranch footage...the kind men like.
I thought you had dogs and cats.
Them, too.
And that you're not fond of matzoh.
I love that shit. Mom's fault.
The two times I had a dog die were actually very beautiful experiences. I was there for them, and before I wasn't sure if I could do that.
It's the anticipation that is so hard.
Xan, fact is, I have to tell my daughter that you can't just call me, crying, and say you have to see me without letting me know what the fuck is going on. I think it's immature and manipulative.
Buzzy, I'm just the opposite. There's no way to prepare for a pet's loss. I live with them fully till they tell me it's time to go. They know better than I what they need.
Sarah - I didn't have the Delmonico: it was a 20 oz steak!!!
And that you're not fond of matzoh.
I love that shit. Mom's fault.
NTodd, Hungry For Mimi
Chocolate-covered matzoh is surprisingly good but very crumbly.
It's the anticipation that is so hard.
Echidne |
yes.
Phila,
I love your Friday hope blogging. I need to get in the habit of checking that out regularly. Too much given to to looking at the world through the clusterfuck filter.
a 20 oz steak!!!
Oh My God.
MEAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love all the AnimalBlogging.
I love your Friday hope blogging.
Ditto. I steal it often, too.
Sallyh - when the time comes, I'll know what to do and I won't let them down. I just have to remind myself occasionally that they won't be young and spry forever. The declining years are coming soon, and that's going to be rough.
20 oz. of steak? That'd feed us for three meals.
Too much given to to looking at the world through the clusterfuck filter.
bo
PorkyPine...that would be your wqya, now, wouldn;t it?
Buzzy, cats are living a lot longer these days. Most of mine have lived to 17-18. One made it past 20.
Your cats have a long and good life ahead of them.
Too much given to to looking at the world through the clusterfuck filter.
bo
It's the sensation of being constantly, relentlessly pounded with bullshit propaganda that really gets to me. But perhaps we are talking about the same thing.
It's the political situation, the economy, the lopsidedness and unreality of it all that's getting to me. I look at the news and all I feel nowadays is weary.
My kids aren't helping.
I had the Petite Filet - and Jessica, our server ( though there seemed to be an army of underlings - I counted 5 at our table at one point) was the best server in any restaurant I have ever been in
It's the sensation of being constantly, relentlessly pounded with bullshit propaganda that really gets to me.
Yes, oh yes. It's unending, like cleaning stables or something, and they have the money to keep on doing it.
I think it's immature and manipulative.
Sallyh,
Well, um, yeah. Immature anyway, on account of she is. And under great stress from pressures both internal (need for external control of brain-chemistry issues) and the usual shit any kid that age is going through plus a kid of her own, school, and a marriage which was, to put it mildly, ill-advised.
But she's determined to carry on with it and that's the most delicate issue you have to back away from. Otherwise she's going to feel like she has to make a choice between her husband and her mommy, and that's where ...well, you know.
Been through it for two generations now in my own family and it's miserable. You go and do better.
Walter Neff...20 oz is "petite"....???
Yowza!!!!!!!!!
This is the best part of my life:
http://www.lfhelmerich.com/photos/main.php?
g2_itemId=1537
No, it was 5oz
Let me try that again.
http://www.lfhelmerich.com/photos/main.php?
g2_itemId=1537
oh, and my presentation was called "a home run" by the major investor (childhood friend of Alec Baldwin - and he had some funny Baldwin stories which I can't repeat)
Sarah, I don't even know what the problem is. With Mlle, it could be anything. All I know is that she's killing me with her emotional upheavals.
It's a nice night here.
The weather here:
Fast Horse Ranch, Vail, Arizona
Elevation: 3200 ft / 975 m
[Thunderstorm]
77.7 °F / 25.4 °C
Humidity: 69%
Dew Point: 67 °F / 19 °C
Wind: Calm
Wind Gust: 1.0 mph / 1.6 km/h
Pressure: 29.23 in / 989.7 hPa (Rising)
Sallyh - I know, and the funny part is, when I got the first cat I never stopped to do the math and comprehend that he could still be around when I'm in my 50s (I was 33). And as often as I complain about what an inconvenience they can sometimes be, I wouldn't part with them for anything. I even ended a relationship rather than give them away. (Naturally there was no question of her giving away her Cocker spaniel.)
Damn that steak sounds good...six more weeks and I can think about eating again.
Nothing like having all your lower teeth pulled to make one appreciate the joys of food.
Sarah, I've encouraged her to deal with her own marriage and life. I try to stay out of it. Not always successfully.
Xan, I could make you a nice mac and cheese.
If only I had the energy.
It's unending, like cleaning stables or something, and they have the money to keep on doing it.
Echidne |
we've been through 7+ yrs of it, and it will keep on keeping on. There;'s no fucking end to it - ever. It's the archetypal battle. Has been going on for-fucking-ever. And will continue.
It's about time, though, that balance changes, for a while, then they'll be back on top again. But.....we have some Time coming for us, soon, I believe.
And this:
http://www.lfhelmerich.com/photos/main.php?
g2_itemId=1549
goodnight all, I'm bushed - in all senses of that word
I'm having a nice Greek youghurt right now.
Has anyone ever seen the Baldwins and the Kagans in the same room, whatevers?
I'm just looking at pics of my granddaughter. And weeping, for what reason I know not.
But.....we have some Time coming for us, soon, I believe.
I hope so, very much, Sarah. Otherwise the world might indeed end, what with the fundies and the wallet-people dictating everything.
Occasionally the corporatist fascists get their comeuppance.
"Yahoo to respond to lawsuit over jailed Chinese 'net dissidents"
http://www.boingboing.net/2007/
0...espond_to_.html
Depending on what the court does, they could get their fingers burnt badly from their misbehavior.
Xan, I could make you a nice mac and cheese.
If only I had the energy.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Sal, thanks but rest up and don't worry about it. I hate mac and cheese. Would sooner eat greased worms.
night all...must go tend the new kitteh here. Little terrorist, this is what i get for picking up kits in the middle of the road in the middle of the country in the middle of the night. He's trying to contribute to this post even as i speak, and was dialing the telephone earlier. And while I didn't particularly like the shade on the living room lamp, I would have liked to dispose of it at a time of my own choosing.
Prince Namor had naming rights on the next animal so this one is Forrest. That's as in "Nathan Bedford," not Gump. If it had to be named for a terrorist I'd have just as soon as called him Osama and been done with it.
It's the sensation of being constantly, relentlessly pounded with bullshit propaganda that really gets to me.
I could stand that a lot better if some of their lies were at least plausible, and they didn't contradict themselves all the time.
It's the contempt that gets to me...the fact that they don't feel they have to put any real effort into lying.
Walter Neff...sweet dreams, dearie-pie. Steak sounds so good right now!!!!!
I could stand that a lot better if some of their lies were at least plausible, and they didn't contradict themselves all the time.
It's the contempt that gets to me...the fact that they don't feel they have to put any real effort into lying.
I'm not entirely convinced that any illegitimate regime can keep their lies straight and not show the people contempt.
But perhaps we are talking about the same thing. - Buzz Bomb
Yeppers, I believe so.
Don't know how he does it, but my lawyer friend in Portland sweats sang froide (sp?), I swear. Just learned that about 3 years before I met him, he damn near died from a broken neck in a freak accident on the Deschutes River. His supposedly wonderful wife went psychotic followed two years ago by the youngest stepchild. Hasn't phased his enthusiasm for life. Pisses me off no end some times, but if he could bottle what ever it is that he has, I'd be his biggest customer.
I think if my grandbaby was here, I'd hold her and not let her go. I love her so much. Those eyes, they have the wisdom of the ages in them.
It's the contempt that gets to me...the fact that they don't feel they have to put any real effort into lying.
Why should they? Nobody much calls them on their lies except for the lefty blogs which are, of course, irrationally angry.
Sallyh............at least your baby girl is on a good path, even if she's emotional right now. You know you are doing the Right Thing by staying out of the emotional maelstrom. I figure all we, as parents, can do is to believe in our kids' ability to choose the best path for them and to achieve their dreams.
Nothin' else we can do, darlin'. Just hope for them, believe in them, and get out of their way. And not get snookered into playing some role in their self-destructive fantasies?
But.....we have some Time coming for us, soon, I believe.
I hope so, very much, Sarah. Otherwise the world might indeed end, what with the fundies and the wallet-people dictating everything.
Echidne
Too depressing to contemplate.
Nathan Bedford Forrest was a terrorist. See, KKK.
Too depressing to contemplate.
Hence the need to work for a change. Optimism of hope and so on.
Sarah, I have no idea what goes on in my daughter's brain anymore. All I know is that I'm tired of the crying--both hers and mine. She's killing me.
Toucari, I'm normally not so devoid of hope. I'm just so freaking tired.
I think if my grandbaby was here, I'd hold her and not let her go. I love her so much. Those eyes, they have the wisdom of the ages in them.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
Sallyh, I would not be at all surprised to know that your g'baby is an Old Soul, with much, much wisdom.
Sallyh, I think Xan was wise when she counseled some emotional distance. It's very hard to do, but it might just be the right prescription for the sake of all of you.
hy should they? Nobody much calls them on their lies except for the lefty blogs which are, of course, irrationally angry.
Echidne | Homepage | 08.25.07 - 2:24 am | # [kill][hide comment]
Sure, they have no reason to. That's exactly what drives me nuts.
"Steak sounds so good right now!!!!!"
Hmmm, peers in freezer, listening to the crackling noise of 70° colliding with -40° inside.
I've got rib eyes, new york, flank, round, sirloin, even a few elk and deer steaks.
Wadda ya want? I can have the grill red hot and the steak thawed in about 15 minutes. It will take me another 10 to 20 minutes beyond that to get it done to the right amount.
Do you want a tater with sour cream with this?
Too depressing to contemplate.
Hence the need to work for a change. Optimism of hope and so on.
Exactly.
Gummo was telling me that I'm at heart an optimist (which is probably the first time this cynical bastard has ever heard that) and that he couldn't be. That means you've already lost.
How can we help but NOT be optimistic? Do we want to live under tyranny? In a nation that kills with impunity?
If you don't want that, then you have to be optimistic and try to fight back with all tools (well, in my world that means short of violence) at our disposal. If you don't march to fight evil with some sense of hope, then what's the fucking point, bitches?
That is the thing that frustrates me and threatens to sap my hope. Even simple acts of resistance seem to be too much for so many people. How do you expect to regain this republic if you don't put some skin in the game, for fuck's sake? And how do you do *that* without envisioning a positive outcome?
Someone should tell Ted Nugent that being a fascist is not "rock & roll"
Hear, hear.
Do you want a tater with sour cream with this?
Yes, hold the flesh.
Do you want a tater with sour cream with this?
Doug
Oh, yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ted Nugent belongs in Iraq.
NOW.
Go swagger around with your fucking guns over there you fascist motherfucker.
Dare you chickenshit.
Those in power will lie, spin and distort to maintain power. IMHO three trends developed that facilitated the current crisis. First, the left became more interested in affluence than fighting the fight against authoritarianism. Second, the right developed a long-term strategy to take power. And third, the press got lazy and crawled into bed with the right wingers because they were gaining power. These conditions provided a context against which 9/11 produced a kind of national fear that drove people more toward nationalism and authoritarianism.
Sarah, I have no idea what goes on in my daughter's brain anymore. All I know is that I'm tired of the crying--both hers and mine. She's killing me.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 08.25.07 - 2:26 am | # [kill][hide comment]
I think the people who are counseling withdrawal are on the right track. When I first met my future wife, she was having a lot of problems with her dad's drinking. He was making it seem as though she was responsible for his day-to-day decisions and frame of mind...that whole "cater to me or you'll drive me to do stuff I want to do anyway" routine at which alcoholics excel. I recommended getting some distance, and it turned out to be for the best.
There's no obligation to be tormented; it doesn't do either person any good.
How do you expect to regain this republic if you don't put some skin in the game, for fuck's sake? And how do you do *that* without envisioning a positive outcome?
NTodd, Hungry For Mimi |
NTodd..."They" will not win. They will not wipe us off any map ever drawn or expected to be drawn.
We will keep the balance.
No question.
And third, the press got lazy and crawled into bed with the right wingers because they were gaining power.
This is true, but there is more to it, based on my observations. The liberal pundits think that a pundit should be "neutral". The conservative pundits think that a pundit should eat flesh of still living creatures.
Good night, dear friends. Thank you for the love I most likely don't deserve, but you all freely give.
Peace.
And we will hold one another up when despair threatens to take one of us down. That, too, is an imperative.
Ted Nugent belongs in Iraq.
NOW.
Go swagger around with your fucking guns over there you fascist motherfucker.
Seriously. If he goes over there and stops a bullet, I might just gain a little respect for him.
Hugs, Sallyh. Have peace and calm tonight.
Night Sallyh. Of course you deserve it. You deserve all good things.
kaymoutl8rh9rs
Sallyh, you deserve the very, very best. You have given much love here, over the yrs. Much love.
The very, very best to you, and let me give you a hug - a good one. You have been so kind and compassionate to me that I can only hope to return a fraction of your kindness.
Sleep well, dear one. Sleep peacefully and deeply and thoroughly.
Wake refreshed. We need you.
I agree with most of what is being said here tonight. However, I am not quite as optimistic as NTodd or Echidne, which does not mean that I am not going to fight tyranny.
'night, dear NTodd. Sleep well with your critters. Dream sweetly.
Someone should tell Ted Nugent that being a fascist is not "rock & roll"
Buzz Bomb | 08.25.07 - 2:31 am | # [kill][hide comment]
You must never have been at a Bill Graham stadium show while on acid.
Toucari, I'm not optimistic in the sense of actual facts, though I'm a little more optimistic now than a year ago on that ground, too. My optimism has to do with there only being one road ahead and the determination to look that way and go.
The liberal pundits think that a pundit should be "neutral". The conservative pundits think that a pundit should eat flesh of still living creatures.
Echidne |
boy, fuckin' howdy.
hard to wear the white hat, ain;t it...??
Bonne nuit tout le monde,
Peaceful rest to all
Ted Nugent belongs in Iraq.
NOW.
He's there in spirit. I hear they use "Wango Tango" in the torture chambers over there.
Monster.com Delayed Disclosure of Data Theft
This is the third time this year, data theft that could lead to potential ID theft for me has happened.
The VA, some on line debit/credit card (not one that I ever keep any money in. Just a temporary one shot account.) confirmation place, and this, Monster.com.
Who are the flakes, consumers, or the records keeping jerks?
You must never have been at a Bill Graham stadium show while on acid.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
I have been !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh, SHIT!!!!!!!!
In Houston TX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!
You must never have been at a Bill Graham stadium show while on acid.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint
Indeed no, although I've had enough experience with their security goons to know what you mean.
Even simple acts of resistance seem to be too much for so many people
Dun worry about it snuffle boy. Hey, yo, Mimi, sweety'kins....
The liberal pundits think that a pundit should be "neutral". The conservative pundits think that a pundit should eat flesh of still living creatures.
Echidne |
boy, fuckin' howdy.
hard to wear the white hat, ain;t it...??
Sarah Deere
It is. I've heard some on the left argue that we should engage in the same distortion tactics as the right uses, and indeed that does happen. But, I don't think that can work long term. It just corrupts the effort and insults our values.
My optimism has to do with there only being one road ahead and the determination to look that way and go.
Echidne | Homepage | 08.25.07 - 2:40 am | # [kill][hide comment]
My optimism has to do with the fact that pessimism is what they want me to feel, and giving in to it seems like an act of collaboration.
How do you expect to regain this republic if you don't put some skin in the game, for fuck's sake? And how do you do *that* without envisioning a positive outcome?
NTodd, Hungry For Mimi |
NTodd..."They" will not win. They will not wipe us off any map ever drawn or expected to be drawn.
We will keep the balance.
No question.
Sarah Deere | Homepage | 08.25.07 - 2:35 am | #
You're not asking the right questions. Working, and/or fighting for a better world is one thing, "regaining the republic" is another. Many countries were the problem at some point in history, now it's the U.S.'s turn.
Black filmmaker guilty of at least manslaughter
LOS ANGELES (AP) - Oscar-nominated director John Singleton was driving a Lexus SUV when it struck and killed a jaywalker who stepped in front of the car, police said Friday.
Singleton, 39, immediately stopped his car and waited for police to arrive after the accident Thursday night in the city's Jefferson Park neighborhood, said Officer Jason Lee, a police spokesman.
Gonna crawl under, too.
Don't fergit to set aside Tuesday the 28th for time an anti-war demonstration near you.
Peace, Pilgrims.
Good night from me, too. Sweet dreams.
Indeed no, although I've had enough experience with their security goons to know what you mean.
Buzz Bomb | 08.25.07 - 2:42 am | # [kill][hide comment]
The goons are bad, God knows...but the crowd can be kind of terrifying too. Young, largely white, largely male, generally stupid, and in a heightened state of aggression and suggestivity.
an accident presumes manslaughter?
Black filmmaker guilty of at least manslaughter
Black, you say?
Hmm. Figures.
That does not sound like manslaughter.
He hit a jaywalker who went in front of his car.
He immediately stopped the car and waited for the cops.
My optimism has to do with the fact that pessimism is what they want me to feel, and giving in to it seems like an act of collaboration.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint | Homepage | 08.25.07 - 2:44 am | #
yes.
g'night, Echidne, bo.....sleep well. Dream of peace.
beyond hope and optimism, there is simply doing the right thing.
That does not sound like manslaughter.
Nope. jack's just being "provocative" again (i.e., lonely, bitter, and stupid).
beyond hope and optimism, there is simply doing the right thing.
Mike
they are intertwined, IMHO.
Don't fergit to set aside Tuesday the 28th for time an anti-war demonstration near you.
Peace, Pilgrims.
bo
Hell with that.
I'm gonna get on some repug hand shake lists, and gonna tell Don Young and Ted Stevens to FOAD.
More satisfying.
I am not your rolling wheels, I am the highway...
SD, Chimes inside and ring as necessary is an OK thing.
Too bad you can't let them sing outside though.
Black filmmaker guilty of at least manslaughter
Well, you know, being black and all...
Since Echidne's gone, I can safely announce that sexually retarded pseudoscience marches on!
beyond hope and optimism, there is simply doing the right thing.
Mike
Yes. Right now my insano-cat is trying to kill a huge mutant spider that got into my house, but yes, and yes.
Study: Men With 'Cavemen' Faces Most Attractive to Women
Jemaine on Flight of the Conchords leaps to mind
environmental activist Derrick Jensen had an excerpt from a book on the Orion magazine site. It's not there anymore but it's reprinted on Dave Pollards blog here:
http://blogs.salon.com/0002007/2...2006/05/
26.html
here's a tidbit:
A wonderful thing happens when you give up on hope, which is that you realize you never needed it in the first place. You realize that giving up on hope didn't kill you. It didn't even make you less effective. In fact it made you more effective, because you ceased relying on someone or something else to solve your problems—you ceased hoping your problems would somehow get solved through the magical assistance of God, the Great Mother, the Sierra Club, valiant tree-sitters, brave salmon, or even the Earth itself—and you just began doing whatever it takes to solve those problems yourself.
Jemaine on Flight of the Conchords leaps to mind
Buzz Bomb
Izzat the same guy who was on the IT CROWD.
????
FOXNews.com's Evolution & Paleontology Center
Oh wait, that's for real.
jack the ripper was a jew.
I blogged on Jensen's anti-hope argument a while back. A number of people I respect like him, but in everything I've ever read he comes across as kind of a schmuck.
Maybe I keep reading the wrong things....
you ceased hoping your problems would somehow get solved through the magical assistance of God, the Great Mother, the Sierra Club, valiant tree-sitters, brave salmon, or even the Earth itself—and you just began doing whatever it takes to solve those problems yourself.
Mike
I understand your point. But, there does have to be some affective drive behind your actions or else you lack motivation; that is just the way the brain works. Hope is often that affect, but I suppose other affects could be effective as well.
My rant against Jensen, for whatever it's worth:
I think Jensen is a bit over the top when he argues that hope is inherently an obstacle to action, rather than a too-common substitute for it. And I can't think of any logical or metaphysical reason why hoping for a given result should mean that one has "given up any agency concerning it." Whether you look at this claim semantically or practically, it's pretty goddamn silly.
My view is that Jensen won't actually "do whatever it takes" to make sure coho salmon aren't driven to extinction. For one thing, he can't know what course of action will be successful; he can only hope he chooses the right one.
Further, the fact that Jensen wrote this piece implies that he hopes it will inspire people to take action. But that hope doesn't mean he gave up any agency. On the contrary, I'd imagine he wrote his article as carefully and thoughtfully as he could, in the hope that it would have the greatest possible effect on people. (If he didn't, he should've.)
Communication - writing, in particular - is a good example of how hope and agency are not only not mutually exclusive, but are often shackled together, for better or worse. Few people hope more fervently - or more irrationally - than those who wish to do things with words.
Jensen goes on to say:
I have no patience for those who use our desperate situation as an excuse for inaction. I've learned that if you deprive most of these people of that particular excuse they just find another, then another, then another. The use of this excuse to justify inaction—the use of any excuse to justify inaction—reveals nothing more nor less than an incapacity to love.
[I]f you love, you act to defend your beloved. Of course results matter to you, but they don't determine whether or not you make the effort. You don't simply hope your beloved survives and thrives. You do what it takes. If my love doesn't cause me to protect those I love, it's not love.
Alright, then. You do what it takes. The question is, what does it take?
jack the ripper was a jew.
q
was not
AMA Touts Plans for Uninsured Americans
CHICAGO (AP) - The nation's largest doctors' group on Thursday launched a multimillion-dollar media campaign to promote its proposals for helping uninsured Americans get health insurance.
The American Medical Association calls its campaign "Voices for the Uninsured" and placed full-page color ads promoting it in Thursday's New York Times and USA Today.
The AMA's solution includes tax credits and increasing federal funds to expand government programs, including the State Children's Health Insurance Program and Medicaid.
The group's president-elect, Dr. Nancy Nielsen, said some people assume the uninsured all are homeless or unemployed.
But today, they're "your own families or your working neighbors," she said at a Washington, D.C., news conference.
Nielsen, the mother of five, said she was uninsured while in graduate school. She recalled lacking money to feed her young children after paying for emergency care when one of them got sick.
Tim Russert has been on vacation for 3 weeks.
Chris Mathews has been on vaction for 2 weeks.
Larry King has been on vacation for 2 weeks.
Atrios has been on vacation for 2 weeks.
I'm peacein' out for now.
"I blogged on Jensen's anti-hope argument a while back. A number of people I respect like him, but in everything I've ever read he comes across as kind of a schmuck."
He might be. I dunno about him, but I did like the essay.
G'night from me too.
Troll method, 101
1: Troll asserts crap
2: Logical Escaton person goes out and finds counter argument, posts reply.
3: Troll don't care, discounts source.
4: Troll says black is white.
5: Rinse and repeat.
Grrrr, tiny tiny brainses them trolls have.
Tiny tiny brainses we have by playing along.
Well, it is 3:00 on the east coast and given that I "hope" to do some yard work tomorrow, I'd better go to bed.
Interesting body modifications.
Maybe scary depending on your views on this.
http://www.deputy-dog.com/?p=97
He might be. I dunno about him, but I did like the essay.
Mike | 08.25.07 - 3:13 am | # [kill][hide comment]
I have sympathy with a lot of it, but ultimately I don't think it has much substance.
He also says that revolution is impossible while people are buying bottled water, which bugs me because it ignores the reasons people by bottled water, which wrongheaded or not, are closer to activism than apathy. Like a lot of lefty theorists, he seems to have a hard time seeing past his superficial dislikes and resentments, and finding common ground with "the herd."
Strictly one man's opinion, natch. And as I say, I haven't read any of his books.
OK, when I'm making this many typos, it's definitely time to turn in. G'night for real.
Interesting body modifications.
Maybe scary depending on your views on this.
http://www.deputy-dog.com/?p=97
Doug
You've been on BoingBoing.
Medieval sex flow chart.
http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne...33406607&
size=o
OK, when I'm making this many typos, it's definitely time to turn in. G'night for real.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint
I am not, r not, counting.
But if tired, goodnight, and nice sleepers to ya.
Barry...yeah, inside is not nearly as good as outside...but I couldn;t stand having them stolen. I just couldn;t bear it at this point.
I just want her voice close to me, and this is what it takes. So be it.
Barry...yeah, inside is not nearly as good as outside...but I couldn;t stand having them stolen. I just couldn;t bear it at this point.
I just want her voice close to me, and this is what it takes. So be it.
Sarah Deere
Sent ya emails about it.
Whatever it takes SD, and they are yours to do with whatever.
Nice to be able to just reach up and get a song though, I like that.
Medieval sex flow chart.
http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne...gne...33406607&
size=o
Doug
Still on the BoingBoing, Like, we know the link.
g'night, Barry...must work tomorrow. Dammit. Sleep well, when you go.
Best, and XXOO.
SD
and, nighters, Phila.
g'night, Barry...must work tomorrow. Dammit. Sleep well, when you go.
Best, and XXOO.
SD
I'll send you wind songs, you may reconsider the chimes.
Good night dear lady.
you may reconsider the chimes.
don;t think so. I love them.
now, truly, g'night.
Medieval sex flow chart.
http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne...gne...33406607&
size=o
Doug
flaw in that chart Doug, no Yes answer out of the "do you want a child" box.
Collect tiny gift at the door.
Collect tiny gift at the door.
That is the desired feature.
It's not a bug.
Collect tiny gift at the door.
That is the desired feature.
It's not a bug.
Doug
Personally, I would like what's behind door #2.
Just a personal thing.
Odd numbers scare me.
I also am scared when I do slanties.
There is no option to have gods cildren in that flowchart.
Not snowflake, not mormon spirit babies, not option but SIN
Aka FUN.
Oh, wait, I did find they Yes on that.
Damn, threw me, it was an "up" option.
Not used to seeing that.
Ok, I'll wash now, and repent later.
I r estupido.
Carry on.
Are you familiar with Jorge Luis Borges and his short story, "The Library of Babel"?
This story I both like and find it's disturbing, in an almost fever dream way.
http://jubal.westnet.com/
hyperdi...y_of_babel.html
Ok, I'll wash now, and repent later
If you repent later, you'll just have to wash and purify yourself again.
Anyone still up?
If you repent later, you'll just have to wash and purify yourself again.
Doug
Can I just put that off till next Satureday, I'm kinda booked for the next few.
Thanks, ciao.
Anyone still up?
fourlegsrgood, gots pitchfork
Iffin I told ya, I would have to get pink belly scritches privileges on Ripley.
So... not saying.
Anyone still up?
Not for long, but you never know, I may wake up in a couple of hours.
Ripley has been in a gimme belly scritches mood this evening.
Now she's in a "play with mah particle accelerator mood."
And I'm in a "time to go sleepy-bye" mood.
I r being CLOL dork, I can't belive how that language has infected me.
I sent a company positon report with it,
Hey dueez,
MyJet it flyining, I skeered.
Be at base at 0930
Need litters, lotsa litters.
thx
So, they sent amulances with triage litters.
I wanted kitty litters, and I got a bad boy letter in my box.
sukkorx
Congressional Dimocrats treating nutroot kossacks and eschatons as the marginal, hysterical, extremist twats they are.
maybe there's hope for the US after all...
So, they sent amulances with triage litters.
I wanted kitty litters, and I got a bad boy letter in my box.
sukkorx
Oh dear.
I asked a waitress the other day, "I can has cheezburger?" So embarrassing.
Shrub got two of three brothers. They sacrificed for this nation and you can bet their deaths are seen as an embarrassment to shrub rather than the tragedy that it is.
"US 'sole survivor' to leave Iraq
Nathan and Jason Hubbard signed up after the death of their brother
A US soldier is to return home from Iraq under a military proviso known as the "sole survivor" rule after losing both of his brothers in the war.
Jason Hubbard, 33, will be re-united with his family in Clovis, California after his brother Nathan, 21, died in a helicopter crash in Iraq on Wednesday.
His other sibling Jared Hubbard was killed by a roadside bomb in 2004.
The "sole survivor" policy, which has allowed Jason to leave Iraq, formed the premise of movie Saving Private Ryan.
Nathan and Jason Hubbard had joined the army in 2005, shortly after their brother, Jared, died aged 22."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world...cas/
6963267.stm
pigboy
what nutroot twats will never understand is that there are warriors out there in America who crave action against America's enemies. Leftwing pussies will never get it.
..because, uh, they're leftist pussies..
Oh dear.
I asked a waitress the other day, "I can has cheezburger?" So embarrassing.
fourlegsrgood, gots pitchfork
She said," YO noe want fiez?
Hee hee, I love em all.
Too badz U no have cats with ruff, I saw the pic, Magoo out ruffs Maddie.
But body, Maddie winz.
We have a TLD!
http://www.cat/
Too badz U no have cats with ruff, I saw the pic, Magoo out ruffs Maddie.
Magoo is all grown up- Maddie's coat is still coming in- she's still a baby.
A huge baby, but still a baby.
is that there are warriors out there in America who crave action against America's enemies.
Then why haven't you enlisted? you lying litle pussy.
Magoo is all grown up- Maddie's coat is still coming in- she's still a baby.
A huge baby, but still a baby.
fourlegsrgood, gots pitchfork
Magoo is all growed up to total of 8 pounder.
Still major bug snatcher anyway.
and yea, why hasn't Lubyanka enlisted?
Panzy.
Magoo is all growed up to total of 8 pounder.
Magoo is only 8 lbs?
Maddie is over 11 already. I shudder to think how big she's going to be.
Ripley looks like a little pipsqueak.
And now I must go sleep. Night!!
And now I must go sleep. Night!!
fourlegsrgood, gots pitchfork
Sleepers to ya 4lg.
Yep, Magoo is a tiny one, but mighty.
Bugz tremble at her name.
lol
I sleep too, too tired of outrage, too tiered of lies.
Only true things are my chimes and my kitters.
And my budz.
And my lamp.
And my table.. oh and my flannel sheets.
And my other lamp.
night all.
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