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I would have been first if it wasn't for you meddling kids!
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03.07.08 - 11:21 pm | #
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So, what are we talking about?
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Obama is more qualified to be President than McCain. Say it Hillary!
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Stuff.
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I would have been first if it wasn't for Zeus making out to be a swan and fucking Leda.
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It looks like Michael Savages Law suit against CAIR (under it's work with Hate Hurts America) will be dismissed next week. I'm very pleased. Taking away his money is one of the best things we can do. We don't have to get into some First Amendment stuff, just "Hey the advertisers don't like it and they are paying"
I'm following this case very closely.
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"so it's up to O-man to win PA convincingly. I'm thinking of volunteering up there."
nah gonna happen.
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"Terry McAuliffe."
won't it be nice to have the same cast of scumbags again?
That's why I'm supporting Barack. I want those scumbags to go. The. FUCK. AWAY.
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hubs is out at a function, kids will be going to bed soon, it's time to break out the vodka. Wheee! Friday nights sure are exciting when you're a soccer mom.
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Sheesh, sub-zero again tonight. Can this be the last time, please?
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"so it's up to O-man to win PA convincingly. I'm thinking of volunteering up there."
nah gonna happen.
Don't count him out there yet.
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FREE ZAP'S GRAVITAR!!!
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I can see it Zap. Can't you see your gravatar?
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I promise, puppethead. Last time 'til next winter.
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monster mash
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I spoke to the lawyer for is working the AT&T case for the EFF today. Very interesting. And one thing that stuck me was just how huge the guns are lined up against us. And how it kind of pisses me off that we have to convince our OWN DEMOCRATIC Senators to demand the president follow the law. And then I though, "Hey why let the Republican's off the Hook, don't THEY have an obligation to follow the law? What gives, have we just ceded the whole "go ahead and break the law" thing to them?
Sure it's great to go after the Bush Dog democrats, but why should the republican's get a free ride?
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It's only 4 degrees here right now. Damn this cold!
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Thanks for the update, Spocko.
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Man I love Volcano. It's such a bad movie, but fun to watch whilst on NyQuil.
Get me a scientist!
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Zap -
Please wish the Mrs. a Happy Birthday from me!
Mancini's, huh? Swank-er-ific! Hope to get a chance to dine there with youse guise later this spring.
Probably gonna wind up missing Big Sandy this swing through. Grrrr. My counterpart on the radio has plans himself for the 15th and so can't trade weekends. And my housemate's dad wants my '62 Bonneville out of his ex-wife's driveway by next Sunday.
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Do I have a gravatar now?
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So, what are we talking about?
KidRanger
Why, whose candidate sucks, of course.
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Wheeeee! I haven't seen my gravatar in AGES!
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I see your gravvie, Spocko.
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How does one get a gravvie?
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Obamorgasmics mortified: why is Hussein such a wimp, letting Billary bitch-slap him from Wyoming to Pennsylvania?
Could Hussein be a loser?
(meanwhile, GOP partying...)
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Sheesh, sub-zero again tonight. Can this be the last time, please?
puppethead
It's done nothing but rain here all day.
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So, what are we talking about?
KidRanger
Why, whose candidate sucks, of course.
Terry C - No More Repugs!
Why, the republican one, of course! Next topic?
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gravatar.com, I think.
I should know, but I tend to forget the details.
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Was reading the 2/25 issue of Newsweek ... they said:
"Looking to the fall, Barack Obama gives John McCain a backhanded compliment by citing McCain's 'half century' of service. We get it, Barack: he's old. Not cool."
It's interesting that Clinton's comment about McCain got so much airplay (especially here) yet Obama's was completely off the radar screen. I know, I know ... she took a swipe at Obama in the process, but nevertheless, he got a complete pass for his comment, while she didn't.
We have to be very careful about how we are being played by the media, and how we are feeding into the increased vitriol between the two candidates.
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Man I love Volcano. with Pierce Bronsen?
Or that one in LA with Don Cheedle?
"Under the Volcano?" with Finney
Or # Joe Versus the Volcano with time hanks
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13000 people at the Arena (that's nearly capactiy) in Laramie for Obama tonight. At a minimum he's gonna crush albany county in the am. no freakin' way hill kicks ass in Wyo. no freakin way.
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Could Hussein be a loser?
(meanwhile, GOP partying...)
Lubyanka | 03.07.08 - 11:29 pm | #
Fuck off, you bigoted asshole. His name is Obama.
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Zapette says "thanks", Roadie.
Not sure we'll go to Lee's now. But we'll see the Midas Touch tomorrow. Hey...it's her birthday. 
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How does one get a gravvie?
Anon | 03.07.08 - 11:29 pm | #
Google "gravatar" ... the first listing is the one you want.
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brookgirl:
get used to a steady diet of Dimocrat vitriol...
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Or that one in LA with Don Cheedle?
That one. With Tommy Lee Jones and Anne Heche.
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new one?
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TGIF Instructions for dressing blondes, right? If it is a male, Toes Go In First. If it is a female, Tits Go In Front, Right ?
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get used to a steady diet of Dimocrat vitriol...
Lubyanka | 03.07.08 - 11:32 pm | #
Lubyanka,
Get used to a steady diet of your own vomit.
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"Don't count him out there yet."
not counting him out quite yet, but the air is going out of the balloon very quickly and he seems either unable or unwilling to change the dynamic. i wouldn't doubt he doesn't win tomorrow, although i think he'll be ok in MS.
then it's off to PA, where if history holds, he'll start to gain a bit, and get smacked back with negative attacks. it's in many ways more daunting then ohio because it's even older and redder then ohio. if there's a saving grace it's that he's got weeks for people to get to know him there, vs a 2 week blitz thru commercials.
i see a long slow slide, with more trouble every day because no one will align with a candidate that can't or won't fight back. he's gonna have a hard time attracting new superdelegates.
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Liquor in the front...poker in the back???
/runs
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One thing that occurred to me that was nobody is in charge of coordinating the response to the telcos and the WH when it came to what they are pushing.
It's a bunch of bloggers and groups, but there is no "Spokesman" for the whole
"Don't let the telcos get immunity and don't let the Bush people get off with out discovery."
Frankly it's like those deals where some multibillion dollar group wants one thing and puts it on the ballot and all these other groups have to scrap together money to oppose it, it just pisses me off when that happens.
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Gravvie test
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But we'll see the Midas Touch tomorrow. Hey...it's her birthday.
Zap Rowsdower
Every birthday you can celebrate should be celebrated.
Hey, how's your dad recovering?
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And again.
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GOP partying..
Why?
They just get reports of more people killed in Iraq?
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Gravvie test
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try again ... sometimes they don't show up right away.
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If you're bitching about the candidates, read this.
And grow up.
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woot. works.
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Dammit!! I've had a gravatar from aught-four! This suxxor!
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Wow. That was quick, Anon!!
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we went bowling tonight.
thai food first.
tgif
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Lubyanka,
Get used to a steady diet of your own vomit.
Brooklyn Girl
When are these rightard mouthbreathers going to learn that their precious GOP doesn't give a flying fuck about them?
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GOP partying..
Whatever small remnants are left.
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That one. With Tommy Lee Jones and Anne Heche.
Anon
Ahhh. Guilty pleasures. "I need more dynamite! To blow up Macy's!" Or some nonsense like that.
I'm to watch Brazil in about 5 minutes.
I'm already humming the theme song.
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Wow. That was quick, Anon!!
I haz mad web skillz on nyquil.
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spocko. so what actually happened today re: telecom immunity. i was busy contributing to the fucking gdp, so haven't heard...
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brookgirl:
you pathetic "progressives" are eating yourselves alive in this campaign--enjoy the spectacle!
I know the GOP is enjoying it already...Fun City!
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Hey, how's your dad recovering?
He's gonna do chemo, for some reason. Kinda pissed about it...seeing that there's no real signs of teh cancer. But they're 'afraid' that it might regroup somewhere, so they wanna play it safe.
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We can snatch the federalist society's chance to rebuild the world in their own sick images away from them and see that they never get near a chance to hurt our country this way again.
Or you could decide that if your candidate doesn't win the nomination you'd rather see McCain choose the next three or four Supreme Court Justices than vote for the other Democrat.
I'd like you to try and find a way to explain that would have convinced Michael Schwerner, James Chaney, and Andrew Goodman.
Amen, amen, amen.
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"so it's up to O-man to win PA convincingly. I'm thinking of volunteering up there."
nah gonna happen.
Don't count him out there yet.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?
he doesn't need pennsylvanian because he's already won.
she doesn't just get to "make up the math" change the rules in the middle of the game...
but she's going to try, so he better make the case.
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Comment by Lubyanka blocked.
killfile rawks!
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Let me tell you what sucks.
What sucks is that we get trolled here by the likes of Lubeyanker and other brain-dead "people," yet we can't reciprocate and troll some dumbass mouth-breather blog because none of them have open comments.
I'm just in the mood to go fuck around with some dumbshit Righties tonight.
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You know Trademark Dave,
You ARE entitled to your opinion. As are other people. I won't belittle your opinion, please return the courtesy.
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"And how it kind of pisses me off that we have to convince our OWN DEMOCRATIC Senators to demand the president follow the law."
i think this whole show about opposition is just that: a show.
what congress did was make a show of opposition, until they were assured of enough teleco bucks for their votes.
the only ones that give a shit could fit in a small room.
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**Sprays Lysol Disinfectant**
Why do trolls come here to puke and fart, when they have their own toilets to grace?
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Amen, amen, amen.
Ditto!
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Cindy McCain looks like Anne Coulter after a good shave and a long thorazine jag.
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I'm just in the mood to go fuck around with some dumbshit Righties tonight.
Sinfonian, agitated
They're not worth your time and energy, my friend.
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I'm just in the mood to go fuck around with some dumbshit Righties tonight.
There's always Halo 3 online. May not be righties, but they are dumbshits, let me tell you what.
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I know the GOP is enjoying it already...Fun City!
and their polling, fundraising, and challenged seats proves just how much FUN they are having.
thanks, idiot.
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Nobody knows who the enemy is
Cause he never goes in hiding
He??s slitting our throats right in front of our eyes while we pull the casket he??s riding
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Cindy McCain looks like Anne Coulter after a good shave and a long thorazine jag.
Ba'al
Yeah, except Coulter has a bigger Adam's apple.
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He's gonna do chemo, for some reason. Kinda pissed about it...seeing that there's no real signs of teh cancer. But they're 'afraid' that it might regroup somewhere, so they wanna play it safe.
This is standard protocol, based on studies which showed that people do, on average, better on the combination than on just surgery.
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no freakin' way hill kicks ass in Wyo. no freakin way.
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Do they let sheep vote there?
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I won't belittle your opinion, please return the courtesy.
Anyone that plans on sitting out the election because "their" candidate didn't win the nomination deserves nothing BUT belittling.
End. Of. Story.
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They're not worth your time and energy, my friend.
Terry C - No More Repugs!
Oh, just as a way to harmlessly release some pent-up aggression. Anyway, it's a moot point.
Guess I'll just go masturbate or something.
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no freakin' way hill kicks ass in Wyo. no freakin way.
trypticon
How many people are IN Wyoming?
Terry C - No More Repugs! |
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Why do trolls come here to puke and fart, when they have their own toilets to grace?
outhouses in Milford, Ohio cost 25 cents, 3 for a dollar?
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fokowi I'm not really sure exactly what happened to day, at the last minute Pelosi was trying to work some other bill in that had some strangeness. I read what FDL said about today and then I faxed to Pelosi the following message, (below)
But today I was talking to the actual EFF lawyer who is works with the whistle blower in the AT&T case and thinking how we can make his story more personal and more connected to people so they care.
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I have heard of this Halo thing, but that's about all I know about it. So that's right out.
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I know the GOP is enjoying it already...Fun City!
and their polling, fundraising, and challenged seats proves just how much FUN they are having.
Ask the GOP if it would be fun to lose IL-14 (Hastert's seat) tomorrow in the special election.
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It's interesting that Clinton's comment about McCain got so much airplay (especially here) yet Obama's was completely off the radar screen. I know, I know ... she took a swipe at Obama in the process, but nevertheless, he got a complete pass for his comment, while she didn't.
What's wrong with complimenting him on his half century of service?
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Zap, sounds like good prevention - even though it'll probably be hell on him. Give him my best.
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I know the GOP is enjoying it already...Fun City!
Saying that doesn't make it so.
But if it makes you feel better, you go right ahead and keep telling yourself that.
Terry C - No More Repugs! |
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Dear Speaker Pelosi:
I was talking to a lawyer for the Electronic Freedom Foundation today. He told me how their entire yearly budget is 2.5 million dollars. They are standing up for the rule of law, they are standing up for our privacy, they are standing against the law breaking telcos and the White House who want what they want and will fix the laws if they can't get it.
I asked, "Who can I get to help you? What other corporations or groups have the kind of money and lobbying power that the telcos have to buy this immunity via "education" and false fear?
He didn't have an answer.
Then it occurred to me. It's your job to stand up for the rule of law. You can stand up for our privacy. And you aren't letting terrorists win when you demand a FISA warrant. The terrorists win when we ignore our laws. Especially when those laws are perfectly capable of doing what we need to do.
You can stand up to the White House and say, "No."
You can demand the White House not spy without a warrant.
You can demand corporations follow the law and not just take the word of the President.
You can say, "I will NOT allow changes in a bill so that no one is punished for lawbreaking."
You can demand to know WHO was being spied upon.
You can say to the Bush White House,"Stop playing the fear card! Let ME see who you really listened to and I'll determine if this is appropriate spying." And if he balks, you can ask why. "Is it because my name is the list, Mr. President?
I NEED you to be on the side of law. I NEED you to stand up for my privacy. I don't want to believe that the telcos can buy their way out of the rules found in the Constitution based on some arm twisting, clever wording and the a worn out fear card.
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okay folks. have a good night.
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Guess what's on, kids?
Crap From The Past!
If anything, you'll like the site's interface.
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Anyone that plans on sitting out the election because "their" candidate didn't win the nomination deserves nothing BUT belittling.
End. Of. Story.
dave™©
And when did I fucking say that? I said I disapproved of the terrible way that Hillary was acting. I do. I said that I would vote for her and that was it. She is a petty and mean spirited poor loser. Sorry. She could be a woman a man or anything else. She lost. Sorry.
She had her choice of the best people. She had the best money. She had everything and she blew it. Sorry.
But if she cannot do anything better than disrespect the candidate the PEOPLE have chosen, she deserves little more than my vote. Sorry. Glad you like her. I do not.
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"Anyone that plans on sitting out the election because "their" candidate didn't win the nomination deserves nothing BUT belittling."
i disagree. no one is entitled to my vote, and i have my own critera for earning it.
being a scumbag with a D next to their name is like putting lipstick on a pig. the pig is prettier, but it's still a pig.
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Ask the GOP if it would be fun to lose IL-14 (Hastert's seat) tomorrow in the special election.
Is there a chance that could happen? It would be v. cool.
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From the FDL link:
Brave men who look to me from the promontory of my middle age like kids were willing to die - did die - so these evil fuckers wouldn't win.
Now it's down to us. We can snatch the federalist society's chance to rebuild the world in their own sick images away from them and see that they never get near a chance to hurt our country this way again.
Or you could decide that if your candidate doesn't win the nomination you'd rather see McCain choose the next three or four Supreme Court Justices than vote for the other Democrat.
I'd like you to try and find a way to explain that would have convinced Michael Schwerner, James Chaney, and Andrew Goodman.
They died for this. All we have to do is reach out a hand and take it, which still leaves you one hand free to hold your nose if you need it.
Me, I think we owe it to them. I can do it either way.
I remember when they died ... I'm sure it never occurred to them that's what would happen. It was much more naive time.
But yes, we owe it to them. Eyes on the prize, folks.
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John McCain's greatest service to his country was his time spent as VP for Public Relations at CindyLouHou's dad's Budweiser Distributorship in Phoenix. The rest is pretty much a waste of a life.
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I said I disapproved of the terrible way that Hillary was acting. I do. I said that I would vote for her and that was it.
Good. That's all anyone has to do.
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Ask the GOP if it would be fun to lose IL-14 (Hastert's seat) tomorrow in the special election.
Is there a chance that could happen? It would be v. cool.
There is.
I didn't realize the special election was tomorrow.

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"Hussein Obama: Pussy-Whipped?
Candidate Cowers Before Formidable Michelle, Bitch-Slapping Hillary...
Obamorgasmics More Befuddled Than Usual.."
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Signing off.
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The 2008 Ohio Democratic primary took place on March 4, 2008 and was open to registered Democrats and Independents.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
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Ask the GOP if it would be fun to lose IL-14 (Hastert's seat) tomorrow in the special election.
Is there a chance that could happen? It would be v. cool.
The latest poll had Foster (D) up 7 points over Oberweis (R). Plus, even the Chicago Tribune endorsed Foster, calling Oberweis a bully and a liar. I think it will depend on turnout. Low turnout would help Oberweis.
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I can haz tornado watch?
Sinfonian, agitated |
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"Is there a chance that could happen? It would be v. cool."
i hear the dem is up by 5-7 pts. we'll see.
hopefully he's better then 1 more body. we don't need any more conservatards.
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Zap: Yes, please give your dad my best too and have a nice talk to him about stuff. I just lost my dad on Feb 18 and I'm sooo glad my last conversations with him were fun and good.
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03.07.08 - 11:47 pm | #
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studies which showed that people do, on average, better on the combination than on just surgery.
Exactly why I did it. Plus, if I had a reoccurrence, I didn't want to be beating myself up for not having done the chemo. It's not fun, but it's manageable. I worked straight through it, although some mornings I didn't make it into work until ten or so.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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03.07.08 - 11:47 pm | #
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good night echidne and anon.
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What I do not understand is WHY it is so hard for people on this blog to understand how turned off people are by this sort of behavior. You ask why only fifty per cent of Americans vote for the president (or sixty per cent) and this is the reason.
Why can't we just have a race about the issues? Why do we accept this bullshit? Why do we encourage this? You say grow up? I say, no. You tell me I am not a good American if I do not accept that this is way things are. I tell you that I am a good American because I will NEVER accept this view of my country.
I believe you are wrong. I believe YOU and your acceptance of the unacceptable are the reason we are in this fucking mess.
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Me, I think we owe it to them. I can do it either way.
I remember when they died ... I'm sure it never occurred to them that's what would happen. It was much more naive time.
But yes, we owe it to them. Eyes on the prize, folks.
Ah, fuck it.
I think the Hillary owes it to me to quit insulting me and quit acting like I owe her my vote.
Do I want McCain to win? no. But that doesn't mean I have to cheerlead for her while she acts like a Karl Rove protoge.
I think that's why I'm so annoyed. She feels like she can get away with anything... because we have no where to go.
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03.07.08 - 11:47 pm | #
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Brian, what business do you have calling anyone "pussy whipped?" You, whose wife turned you into a eunuch?
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03.07.08 - 11:48 pm | #
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I can haz tornado watch?
Sinfonian, agitated
Uh oh. I'll take snow any day.
Ali, now with ADHD |
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Ah...............Trademark Dave, I can never thank you enough!
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I tell you that I am a good American because I will NEVER accept this view of my country.
I believe you are wrong. I believe YOU and your acceptance of the unacceptable are the reason we are in this fucking mess.
You will be shocked to hear that I rather agree with you.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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03.07.08 - 11:48 pm | #
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Out for a bit...
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Brian, what business do you have calling anyone "pussy whipped?" You, whose wife turned you into a eunuch?
DJ
Boy, how these rightards HATE women!
Terry C - No More Repugs! |
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03.07.08 - 11:49 pm | #
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yet we can't reciprocate and troll some dumbass mouth-breather blog because none of them have open comments. -Sinfonian, agitated
next you'll advocate givin' up the "Lottery" ... anyway - Yahoo politics is still open but the righties over there make tobey putzhold look like Edward Heath
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03.07.08 - 11:49 pm | #
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What's wrong with complimenting him on his half century of service?
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? | Homepage | 03.07.08 - 11:42 pm | #
Nothing. Except that Newsweek felt that Obama was implying that McCain is old, while he's young.
And when Hillary complimented McCain for his lifetime of service, she got blasted for sucking up to the enemy. Obama didn't.
And yes, I know she also took a swipe at Obama in the process.
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hopefully he's better then 1 more body. we don't need any more conservatards.
No one can be as bad as fat, corrupt Denny.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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03.07.08 - 11:49 pm | #
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The 2008 Ohio Democratic primary took place on March 4, 2008 and was open to registered Democrats and Independents.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Ohi...c_primary,_2008
hadenough
And then there was Texas, open to Republicans. Many of whom voted for Sen. Clinton, and then complained that they could not go back and vote in the Republican races down-ticket.
Really, dunce, you just keep humiliating yourself...
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John McCain's positions are mutually irreconcilable at different times, not necessarily far apart.
This is because he is only interested in his own perceived self-interest and so feels free to say anything he thinks people will swallow.
His narcissism exceeds that of Bush.
Ba'al |
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My gf sent me this. Click on the link for a monitor cleaning.
https://emp.ucsd.edu/swf/screenclean.swf
Ali, now with ADHD |
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03.07.08 - 11:50 pm | #
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CindyLouHou's dad's Budweiser Distributorship in Phoenix
experienced, tested, ready: McCain in 08

mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari |
03.07.08 - 11:51 pm | #
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Who was it earlier today who mentioned that McCain destroyed how many millions of dollars worth of government property?
Terry C - No More Repugs! |
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03.07.08 - 11:51 pm | #
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And yes, I know she also took a swipe at Obama in the process.
Brooklyn Girl
Obama took quite a lot of heat for talking about Reagan, IIRC.
Ali, now with ADHD |
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03.07.08 - 11:51 pm | #
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Boy, how these rightards HATE women!
Terry C - No More Repugs!
Even the rightard women hate women.
I don't know if it's repressed gaiii or if they didn't get enough hugs and kisses from Mommy when they were little, but it's so characteristic of "conservatives."
Sinfonian, agitated |
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03.07.08 - 11:51 pm | #
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Boy, how these rightards HATE women!
I can never understand that. Their mothers were women, weren't they?
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03.07.08 - 11:51 pm | #
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Thanks, Spocko.
I know what you've gone through recently. And my thoughts have been with you and yours for some time.
Dad's gonna be okay. I mean...how stupid can doctors be to prescribe chemo to a guy who's already got a weak immune system?
Huh?
Zap Rowsdower |
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03.07.08 - 11:51 pm | #
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How many people are IN Wyoming?
less than half a million. so, nearly 5% of the state cheered for Barrack tonight.
sheep can't vote. if they could Wyoming would secede from the union.
the novelty of a woman condidate is less spell binding in a place that's had women voting since before it was a state, that had female statewide office holders before 1900, and a multi-term female governor starting around 1925.
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And when Hillary complimented McCain for his lifetime of service, she got blasted for sucking up to the enemy. Obama didn't.
Yeah, but she pretty much said that McBush was qualified to be "commander in chief" and that Obama isn't.
I think that's out of bounds.
When Obama talks about McBush, he always says, "we respect his service but he's a fucking fossil on the issues and he's wrong about everything. And he's old."
I think that's a lot different.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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My gf sent me this. Click on the link for a monitor cleaning.
https://emp.ucsd.edu/swf/screenclean.swf
Ali, now with ADHD
I have one like that
Only it's a Boston Terrier!
Terry C - No More Repugs! |
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03.07.08 - 11:52 pm | #
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"Their mothers were women, weren't they?"
well, .........
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I can never understand that. Their mothers were women, weren't they?
No, most of them were hatched.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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I don't know if it's repressed gaiii or if they didn't get enough hugs and kisses from Mommy when they were little, but it's so characteristic of "conservatives."
Sinfonian, agitated
gaiiii. Remember conservapedia's most-watched pages?
http://www.conservapedia.com/Spe...cial:
Statistics
Ali, now with ADHD |
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03.07.08 - 11:53 pm | #
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plush kittehs taking over eschaton
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Out for a bit...
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office
me too, lemon squares peanut-butter and coffee. i am such a Philistine...
focus (D- Monster Island) |
03.07.08 - 11:53 pm | #
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Well, everybody says so, but we're not sure.
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Four Legs Good,
No, I am not surprised that we agree sometimes. At the core we probably agree most of the time.
I have thought long about this question of what is acceptable and my conclusion is the one I have just stated. I am tired of the lies. (Even a few minutes ago when I was putting the dogs and wife to bed, I turned on the local news and they repeated the lie that Obama assured the Canadians that he really did not mean what he said about NAFTA but this time they ADDED that he did not really mean that he would withdraw the troops from Iraq - the whispering campaign and lies keep coming and we know where they are coming from, don't we?)
Beowulf Schaeffer - Grumpy DWD |
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What was the deal with this bit of McCains blow up this morning:
"There’s no living American in Washington .. that knows that, there's no one."
Living American in Washington? WTF?
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03.07.08 - 11:54 pm | #
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Quote of the day -
“Thornberg also cautions investors from listening too closely to Wall Street. ‘They. Don’t. Care.’ He says Wall Street works solely for December 31st and the bonus that comes with the end of the year.”
via http://thehousingbubbleblog.com/?p=4242
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"I think that's a lot different."
because it is.
this is strangely similar to the old dick morris triangulation shit, ain't it? kiss up to the rw and diss yer own party.
hmmmm...
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Terry C, my kids saw the pup and said "that dog has weird eyes!" lolz.
Pretty cute, though.
Ali, now with ADHD |
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Boy, how these rightards HATE women!
Terry C - No More Repugs!
Even the rightard women hate women.
I don't know if it's repressed gaiii or if they didn't get enough hugs and kisses from Mommy when they were little, but it's so characteristic of "conservatives."
Sinfonian, agitated
Rightards are self-haters.
Self-hating women.
Self-hating gays.
Self-hating blacks, self-hating Jews.
These are unhappy miserable people.....who want everyone else in the world to be the same way that they are.
Terry C - No More Repugs! |
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Hillary tried to sound "Texan" while campaigning here. Please God, make it stop.
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I can never understand that. Their mothers were women, weren't they?
I asked, Mother told me to mind my own business and hit me with a shovel
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Is it possible to know that there was a remix of "MMMbop"?
I've just discovered that, thanks to teh radio.
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Obama took quite a lot of heat for talking about Reagan, IIRC.
Ali, now with ADHD | Homepage | 03.07.08 - 11:51 pm | #
And nobody is still talking about it. He seems to get a pass, when she doesn't. People actively hate her.
Brooklyn Girl |
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Terry C, my kids saw the pup and said "that dog has weird eyes!" lolz.
Pretty cute, though.
Ali, now with ADHD
It's a Pug.
My second favorite breed.
We have a Pug/Pekingese mix and he has HUGE eyes!
Terry C - No More Repugs! |
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Irony:
Obama being trashed and slimed by fellow Dimocrats...
GOP looking on, smiling sweetly...
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Hillary tried to sound "Texan" while campaigning here. Please God, make it stop.
Ba'al |
I quite like her midwestern accent, assuming that one's real.
Ali, now with ADHD |
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"People actively hate her."
i didn't used to. she's earned it.
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me too, lemon squares peanut-butter and coffee. i am such a Philistine...
Another worshiper of Ba'al!
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this is strangely similar to the old dick morris triangulation shit, ain't it? kiss up to the rw and diss yer own party.
hmmmm...
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She's not dissing her party. She's dissing her rival.
Brooklyn Girl |
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GOP looking on, smiling sweetly...
Lubyanka
Keep telling yourself that, nutless one. You may eventually believe it.
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http://cbs4denver.com/local/
tang...n.2.671650.html
Hee! This guy has donated almost 60,000 dollars to Rethugs over the last five years. He's famous in Denver for having been the one restaurant that W wanted to visit when he was here. Good old fashioned heart-land values!
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I don't hate HRC. I don't support her, but what has she done to earn my hate? I normally use that for our GOP opponents.
Zap Rowsdower |
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I can never understand that. Their mothers were women, weren't they?
No, most of them were hatched.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?
Judging from our trolls, I'd say they all crawled out from under rocks.
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And nobody is still talking about it. He seems to get a pass, when she doesn't. People actively hate her.
Brooklyn Girl
Ali, now with ADHD |
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Speaking of repressed gaiii self-loathers, I give you once again Fort Lauderdale mayor Jim Naugle.
He refuses to use the word "gay" because gay means "happy," and homosexuals, he says, aren't happy. He also opposes public restrooms on Ft. Lauderdale Beach because they will attract men who want to have sex.
He's a registered Democrat, but he loves him some Chimpy.
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And nobody is still talking about it. He seems to get a pass, when she doesn't. People actively hate her.
Brooklyn Girl
If you take the "Things" that Barack Obama has said and put them side by side with the things that Hillary Clinton has said AND done and compared them as to their truth, fairness, and ORIGIN.
Who do YOU believe would be the winner for the most truthful, fair, and honest?
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Hillary tried to sound "Texan" while campaigning here. Please God, make it stop.
Gee, no other candidate in the history of campaigning has ever done that. And just this morning, plantsman informed us that she's a bottle blonde and those highlights aren't really hers. Clearly, she should curl up and die.
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I don't hate HRC. I don't support her, but what has she done to earn my hate? I normally use that for our GOP opponents.
Zap Rowsdower
I hate Republicans.
With a white hot passion.
And their delusional enablers....like Dickyanka.
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What the hell? In my last comment, I was trying to say to Brooklyn girl:
Fair point, I don't disagree with you. Just remembering the Reagan mini-scandal.
Ali, now with ADHD |
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I prefer Obama but if Clinton wins the nomination, of course I'll vote for her.
I would think that any Eschatonian not voting to defeat the republifascists is betraying the spirit I've felt on this website for the last 5 or 6 years, or however long I've been coming here.
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airhead DJ:
don't need to tell anybody, numbnuts, it's there for all to see, ..
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People actively hate her.
I had no dog in the race after Edwards dropped out. At first. But she has pissed me off big time in the last three weeks. I don't hate her, she is a fine Senator most of the time. But she shows no signs of having learned from her biggest mistakes in political life.
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The average american is a little bit above average.
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Bobby, I thought you lived in Vancouver. Where did I get that idea?
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Zap: My mom was on Chemo and she had a rough time, I should have called her more, but I just didn't. But after Christmas when my Dad asked me why I said I had no excuses but it's hard sometimes when the blogosphere has become such a big part of my life and beating back on the crazy talk radio hosts to talk to my republican mom. She listens to Rush and quotes him back to us. I really don't want to argue with her about stuff because It's not worth it, but for people like her who are RWAs (as Dean wrote about in his book) they really are sucked in to the stuff that Rush and Hannity put out.
Right wing Talk radio is hurting the country, it divides us and I fell for it and it kept me a bit distance from my family. They fell for it too since I was an "evil liberal" on "the left coast" with all the "fruits and nuts"
I don't like my parents being turned against me just because Rush Limbaugh and the Right Wing Noise machine needs us to the the enemy for ratings purposes.
John Stewart said it best. "Stop it, you're hurting America."
For me I'm trying to reduce it or stop in the good old fashion way, make it less profitable. When it isn't as profitable as before then they might tone it down. And if they don't I point out just how over the top they are to the remaining advertisers. It takes more time, but it IS having an impact and they can't whine about their "free speech" on commercially supported broadcast radio. They just lose their financial support.
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And just this morning, plantsman informed us that she's a bottle blonde and those highlights aren't really hers.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
You're kidding!
How petty.
That's the kind of shit you hear out of Limbaugh or O'Reilly!
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Hillary tried to sound "Texan" while campaigning here. Please God, make it stop.
Gee, no other candidate in the history of campaigning has ever done that. And just this morning, plantsman informed us that she's a bottle blonde and those highlights aren't really hers. Clearly, she should curl up and die.
That's not a fair criticism of Sen. Clinton. Her husband is a Southerner; naturally, she'd pick up some of his accent.
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Gee, no other candidate in the history of campaigning has ever done that. And just this morning, plantsman informed us that she's a bottle blonde and those highlights aren't really hers. Clearly, she should curl up and die.
Hecate,
Coloring your hair is fundamentally dishonest.
But every body knows you color before you curl.
I mean.... that's what my wife told me... yeah, that's the ticket
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Who do YOU believe would be the winner for the most truthful, fair, and honest?
Beowulf Schaeffer - Grumpy DWD | Homepage | 03.07.08 - 11:58 pm | #
Kerry was truthful, fair, and honest. Is he in the White House?
Sadly, that's not going to win this election for us.
Brooklyn Girl |
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I see that the Republican version of Governor Hottie, Alaska's Sarah Palin, is pregnant again. I think this would be her 4th or 5th kid. Congratulations to the Palins.
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See ya, jack, you moron.
Terry C - No More Repugs! |
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Liar!
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she's a bottle blonde and those highlights aren't really hers.
I bet 80% of the white female population highlight their hair. This is news?
Ali, now with ADHD |
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I would think that any Eschatonian not voting to defeat the republifascists is betraying the spirit I've felt on this website for the last 5 or 6 years...
Please, don't go to the following blogs:
-taylormarsh.com
-talkleft.com
They brag about voting for McCain if Obama's the nominee. Quite unbecoming, or trolls trying to get a rise outta people.
Zap Rowsdower |
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If Hillary wins the nomination I will vote for her.
Ba'al |
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Alaska's Sarah Palin,
Batshit insane social conservative.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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We have a Pug/Pekingese mix and he has HUGE eyes!
Terry C - No More Repugs
Like this?
No idea what this is, but they's some peepers there...
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These are unhappy miserable people.....who want everyone else in the world to be the same way that they are.
Terry C - No More Repugs!
Excellent point!
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I had no dog in the race after Edwards dropped out. At first. But she has pissed me off big time in the last three weeks. I don't hate her, she is a fine Senator most of the time. But she shows no signs of having learned from her biggest mistakes in political life.
Ba'al
I will defer to my favorite Babylonian Deity on this one. My sentiments precisely.
Word.
And what is so dismaying is that according to what I have been reading, she really has very little chance of winning. So what is it for?
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I had no dog in the race after Edwards dropped out. At first. But she has pissed me off big time in the last three weeks. I don't hate her, she is a fine Senator most of the time. But she shows no signs of having learned from her biggest mistakes in political life.
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I just think we should be careful about listening to what the media is telling us. We have no idea what footage is being left on the cutting room floor, so to speak.
And I'm also sorry Edwards is gone. Of the three, he was the one who stayed on message and took the high road.
Brooklyn Girl |
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I just can't see voting for a habitual smoker.
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Goodnight and good mornings.
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Sadly, that's not going to win this election for us.
Brooklyn Girl
I am sorry. That is not an answer worthy of you.
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Who the fuck cares, jack?
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Alaska's Sarah Palin,
A very beautiful woman.
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she's a bottle blonde and those highlights aren't really hers.
I bet 80% of the white female population highlight their hair. This is news?
Apparently. I think it's just a sign of how unhinged some of us are getting. The goal is to defeat John McCain and as many of his fellow travelers as we can. The insane level of vitriol directed at both of the Democratic contenders does our enemies' work for them.
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daisy
We can spot you no matter what name you use, jack. Fuck off.
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TalkLeft has gone completely off the deep end. That's where Armando of old dKos fame runs things. He's a lunatic.
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Well hello, problematic negro !
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"I just can't see voting for a habitual smoker."

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Bobby, I thought you lived in Vancouver. Where did I get that idea?
Ali, now with ADHD
I tend to often boast about it.
Actually I live about 75 miles E of Vancouver. It's truly paradise out here.......ah, there I go again.
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Obama:
victim of his own scary, crazed, fainting nutball supporters?
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Alaska's Sarah Palin,
Batshit insane social conservative.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Oh, I know. I just think she's pretty. On the inside is another story.
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Spocko, that was right-bleeping-on.
You're fighting the good fight. Nobody can take that away. You're doing/you've done the right thing. We're proud of you.
I'm fortunate to have a great relationship with my parents (who instilled in me my strong liberal values). Their mortality, OTOH...
We'll cross that bridge when we get there.
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No-hope, Bobby?
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Night, all
Sometimes you just have to believe that the truth is worth fighting for and that lies hurt you as much as they hurt the person you are lying about.
(Or maybe a person just packs up their family and returns to where they came from. I hear the Netherlands and Sweden are doing pretty well without our families, maybe they would like us back?)
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Don't you wish you still had your nutballs, Brian? Perhaps if you'd had been nicer to Janet...
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A friend talked me into watching Mistress of Spices this evening and I couldn't even make fun of it or say how much it sucked since she'd gone on and on about how great it was. It was a v. bad movie. Do not waste your time on it.
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I see that the Republican version of Governor Hottie, Alaska's Sarah Palin, is pregnant again. I think this would be her 4th or 5th kid. Congratulations to the Palins.
Sinfonian, agitated
Her 5th, as reported by yours truly here Wednesday afternoon.
The true conseveratards up here hate her, and now they are using this in a slam to say she's unqualified to govern.
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"Hillary tried to sound "Texan" while campaigning here. Please God, make it stop. Ba'al"
Focusing on the important things. Good for you.
Meanwhile:
power: "You can’t make a commitment in March 2008 about what circumstances will be like in January of 2009," she said. "He will, of course, not rely on some plan that he’s crafted as a presidential candidate or a U.S. Senator. He will rely upon a plan – an operational plan – that he pulls together in consultation with people who are on the ground to whom he doesn’t have daily access now, as a result of not being the president. So to think – it would be the height of ideology to sort of say, 'Well, I said it, therefore I’m going to impose it on whatever reality greets me.'"
"It’s a best-case scenario," she said again.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/
be...e_scenario.html
Within the last month, a top staff member for Obama's campaign telephoned Michael Wilson, Canada's ambassador to the United States, and warned him that Obama would speak out against NAFTA, according to Canadian sources.
The staff member reassured Wilson that the criticisms would only be campaign rhetoric, and should not be taken at face value.
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/Articl...227?
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And then the follow up on obama's nafta-gate:
PMO: Officials only got briefing from Obama campaign
Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton never gave Canada any secret assurances about the future of NAFTA such as those allegedly offered by Barack Obama's campaign, Prime Minister Stephen Harper's office said Friday.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/s...y/National/
home
But you're focused on the important things.
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Apparently. I think it's just a sign of how unhinged some of us are getting. The goal is to defeat John McCain and as many of his fellow travelers as we can. The insane level of vitriol directed at both of the Democratic contenders does our enemies' work for them.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
(Raises glass)
Couldn't have said it better myself.
My daughter is in Obama's camp, but she doesn't like the personal attacks on Hillary either.
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i absolutely hate hillary. like an italian said to me today, "why have shit when you can have chocolate?"
(this sentiment seems pretty shared in old yurp.)
i think that should be on a t-shirt with corresponding mug shots.
that said, of course i'll vote for her if she's the nominee.
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The Ceo of Countrywide Financial on Cspan says his father didn't buy his first home until he was over 50 years old and then he died a few years later.
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That's where Armando of old dKos fame runs things. He's a lunatic.
No shit.
'Big Tent Democrat', eh?
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just this morning, plantsman informed us that she's a bottle blonde and those highlights aren't really hers.
Truly Freeperific!
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Talk Left now deletes virtually every one of my comments. It is like getting ssshhhed by the librarian. I never did get an answer from Jeralyn about why it is that the ACLU might have endorsed Obama.
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The true conseveratards up here hate her, and now they are using this in a slam to say she's unqualified to govern.
Barry from Alaska 01-20-09
Wait a minute.
Don't the wingtards believe that women should keep popping them out?
They need to make up their minds.
Terry C - No More Repugs! |
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I think a fair number of people are going to start living this song in the near future if they haven't already...
The Kinks - Dead End Street
http://youtube.com/watch?v=i0WPC-N3UYE
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My daughter is in Obama's camp, but she doesn't like the personal attacks on Hillary either.
Son, too. DiL and I voted for Hil, he voted for Obama. As soon as there's a nominee, we'll all start canvassing for the nominee. I do not want crazy, stupid John McCain in the WH.
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just this morning, plantsman informed us that she's a bottle blonde and those highlights aren't really hers.
Truly Freeperific!
dave™©
I'm still shaking my head over that.
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TalkLeft has gone completely off the deep end.
So has BradBlog, AmericaBlog, Taylor Marsh, and Larry Johnson's site, to name but a few.
And of course, Orange Satan.
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I am sorry. That is not an answer worthy of you.
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Do you want me to pretend that the system is not broken? Do you want me to say that the person with the finest character is going to win?
I want to make sure that McCain doesn't win. And I have no illusions about how this race will be won.
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Hillary tried to sound "Texan" while campaigning here. Please God, make it stop.
I'm a transplanted rustbelt boy myself, and folx back up in the GWN wouldn't reconnize me now, to listen to me. Hill lived in Arkantucky long enough to absorb a bit of it. Actually, after a while, it's hard not to blend in, after you have the accent "on file".
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Mkay... off to watch THE WICKER MAN. Laturd.
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Comment by sy blocked.
Who cares, jack?
Terry C - No More Repugs! |
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http://www.slate.com/id/1004633/
Nobody talks about this..
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"And then there was Texas, open to Republicans. Many of whom voted for Sen. Clinton, and then complained that they could not go back and vote in the Republican races down-ticket.
Really, dunce, you just keep humiliating yourself...
DJ"
Registered repubs couldn't vote in the dem Ohio primary just like I typed in and Hillary won big. Get over it.
You people kill me. Did obama win texas or not? Which is it today? Anyway it's like it was just the last primary/caucus when obamatons were crowing about how repubs voting for obama proved how great he was. When a repub votes for Hillary it means something else. You people are too much.
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had enough
I am focused on the important things. Hillary Clinton voted for the Kyl Lieberman ammendment. After she voted to authorize the war in Iraq. She has never taken a leadership position in the Senate that entailed any degree of personal political risk.
So maybe I am focused on something a bit more concrete than allegations about NAFTA that are pretty nebulous and that come from Steven Fucking Harper, Canada's own George Bush.
So fuck off and die.
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Wait a minute.
Don't the wingtards believe that women should keep popping them out?
They need to make up their minds.
Terry C - No More Repugs
They have no problem with her having a baby at all.
Like I said, the conservatards hate her, cause shes a bit progressive. Like, she don't like bribery, believes in ethics, rejected the oil tax deal that was done by paying off the legislature.
They hate her for that, daily rants about her on winger radio. And today, it got down to, "How can a woman who is nursing a baby all night supposed to run a Cabinet meeting at 6 am the next day?"
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Hecate: I voted for Clinton; Dr Mrs W voted for Obama; we'll both vote Democratic in November.
Keep your eyes on the prize
Hold on
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"Democrats' Long Obsession With Race/Gender Politics Coming Home To Roost In 08..."
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The neat thing about Larry Johnson's 'site' is that he doesn't even blog there anymore...it's Susanhu's bit.
Then she just c & p's her shit over at myDD.
UPDATE, X4!!!
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You people kill me. Did obama win texas or not? Which is it today? Anyway it's like it was just the last primary/caucus when obamatons were crowing about how repubs voting for obama proved how great he was. When a repub votes for Hillary it means something else. You people are too much.
hadenough
The Texas Democratic Party says that when all the votes and caucuses are counted, Obama will win more delegates from Texas than Clinton. To my eyes, boy, that's what winning looks like. Dormez bien, shit for brains.
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No-hope, Bobby?
Ali, now with ADHD
Almost, but not quite.
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Sadly, that's not going to win this election for us.
Brooklyn Girl
No, it's not.
I'm tired of the Democrats bringing peashooters to gun fights.
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Nobody talks about this..
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Not yet. But they will, when the time comes.
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TalkLeft has gone completely off the deep end. So has BradBlog, AmericaBlog, Taylor Marsh, and Larry Johnson's site, to name but a few.
You know what's off the deep end? You can pick up the 9-disc Billy Wilder set currently for $44.
WITNESS FOR THE PROSECUTION (1957); SOME LIKE IT HOT (1959); THE APARTMENT (1960); IRMA LA DOUCE (1963); KISS ME, STUPID (1964), ONE, TWO, THREE (1961); THE FORTUNE COOKIE (1966); THE PRIVATE LIFE OF SHERLOCK HOLMES (1970); and AVANTI! (1972).
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Independents are mostly Republicans and they voted for Hillary as Limbaugh instructed them.
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Don't the wingtards believe that women should keep popping them out?
Yes, but they also believe those women should pop them out in the kitchen, not the governor's office. In fact, a huge part of the reason why they think women should keep popping out babies is because they thin that will/should keep women in the kitchen and out of competition w/ men.
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Hecate: I voted for Clinton; Dr Mrs W voted for Obama; we'll both vote Democratic in November.
Keep your eyes on the prize
Hold on
ProfWombat
I voted for her in the primary, I'll vote for her in the fall. In between, if she conducts her campaign like a junior league Karl Rove, I'll give her hell.
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I have mountain biked at Vedder Mtn a few times, Bobby. Love those trails!
Ali, now with ADHD |
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I'd better get some sleep. Kids are here this weekend and they are relentless ... 
Catch you patriotz laterz.
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...bad environment. Too many jack's aropund here...
[looks nervously toward the exit]
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just this morning, plantsman informed us that she's a bottle blonde and those headlights aren't really hers.
Well...that's what it looked like at first. Gotta clean my monitor. Or my mind...
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Did you know there's a hiking trail that runs coast to coast?
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Keep your eyes on the prize
Hold on
ProfWombat
Amen, baby. We are climbing Jacob's ladder. Brothers, Sisters, all.
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"How can a woman who is nursing a baby all night supposed to run a Cabinet meeting at 6 am the next day?
And, yet, oddly, they do.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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"How can a woman who is nursing a baby all night supposed to run a Cabinet meeting at 6 am the next day?"
Well, at least she'll be awake for that 3AM phone call.
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Comment by maize blocked.
Fuck off!
Terry C - No More Repugs! |
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I figure it would take about 3 months to bike this trail at 50 miles a day.
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To my eyes, boy, that's what winning looks like.
98-95: it's a blowout!
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"How can a woman who is nursing a baby all night supposed to run a Cabinet meeting at 6 am the next day?"
Christ, how is anybody supposed to do that even after a good night of undisturbed sleep? And why would anybody want to?
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How can a woman who is nursing a baby all night supposed to run a Cabinet meeting at 6 am the next day?
Better nursing a baby than nursing a hangover.
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Duane: it's long been clear to me that I'm to the left of anybody reasonably capable of winning, so it's part of my job to beat on 'em from the left. And it's hard to win an election on the high road, I'll admit, but I think that's a largely self-fulfilling prophecy and should be fought.
So we agree...
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Well, at least she'll be awake for that 3AM phone call.
Bobby St.
Well, there is that benefit.
I was kinda wondering how the radio wingnutz came to assume that she was gonna breast freed?
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Walking or biking from coast to coast is something most people will never do. You can brag all you want about your superficial business travels but you'll never have the guts or the personal freedom to do something like this.
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Is there a chance that could happen? It would be v. cool.
they are running 50/50 apparently
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they also believe those women should pop them out in the kitchen, not the governor's office. In fact, a huge part of the reason why they think women should keep popping out babies is because they think that will/should keep women in the kitchen and out of competition w/ men.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Well, they're not getting their wish.
Fuck 'em!
Terry C - No More Repugs! |
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The Texas Democratic Party says that when all the votes and caucuses are counted, Obama will win more delegates from Texas than Clinton. To my eyes, boy, that's what winning looks like.
And yet Clinton won the popular vote by 100,000.
Remember when the Obama people used to argue that winning the "popular" vote was what mattered? What happened to that line of argument?
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How can a woman who is nursing a baby all night supposed to run a Cabinet meeting at 6 am the next day?
Better nursing a baby than nursing a hangover.
leibniz♘☮
Try both at once. I swear that little halfwit had titanium gums. But he slept a lot. Which was nice.
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Did you know there's a hiking trail that runs coast to coast?
willow | 03.08.08 - 12:16 am
Talking about the Trans canada Trail?
I've been working on a section of it, actually.
Ali, now with ADHD |
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THE PRIVATE LIFE OF SHERLOCK HOLMES (1970)
That's a great movie - quite overlooked.
dave™© |
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Prof Wombat,
I'm in the same boat.
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"So has BradBlog, AmericaBlog, Taylor Marsh, and Larry Johnson's site, to name but a few.
And of course, Orange Satan.
dave™© "
How in the world could you put these sites TalkLeft, Taylor Marsh, and Larry Johnson's in with americablog and the giant orange stupid? There is no comparison.
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Man..just heard An-Emotion.
Greatest 80s band evah!!
Zap Rowsdower |
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The trope about women needing to have more babies is racist, too. A lot of its underpinnings involve the despicable fecundity of brown people, and the marked shortage of pasty pink brats, at least in some folks' minds...
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Greetings and salutations Nightshifters!
*bows head and does that hand-twirl-under-chin thing*
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I figure it would take about 3 months to bike this trail at 50 miles a day.
Jeebus, I remember doing 100 miles a day of riding.I used to do 25-30 miles instead of lunch when I was a post doc. Mrs Leibniz, who did not know me back then, looks at pictures of me on the continental divide or along the Erie Canal and says, "What the hell happened to you?"
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And, yet, oddly, they do.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
I breastfed while working full-time for +/-3 years of my life. No biggie.
Better nursing a baby than nursing a hangover.
leibniz♘☮ |
abso-fucking-lutely!
Ali, now with ADHD |
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well, all of those blogs have quite clearly chosen sides, rather more vociferously than seems necessary.
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WITNESS FOR THE PROSECUTION (1957); SOME LIKE IT HOT (1959); THE APARTMENT (1960); IRMA LA DOUCE (1963); KISS ME, STUPID (1964), ONE, TWO, THREE (1961); THE FORTUNE COOKIE (1966); THE PRIVATE LIFE OF SHERLOCK HOLMES (1970); and AVANTI! (1972).
JeffCO
I love Billy Wilder's stuff.
And One, Two Three is SO underrated!
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And yet Clinton won the popular vote by 100,000.
Remember when the Obama people used to argue that winning the "popular" vote was what mattered? What happened to that line of argument?
They also complained about the Nevada caucuses that Hillary won by "cheating". Plenty of dkos diaries on that one.
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How in the world could you put these sites TalkLeft, Taylor Marsh, and Larry Johnson's in with americablog and the giant orange stupid? There is no comparison.
Que? You means in measure of pure biasness?
They all kinda stump for one candidate or another.
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Hecate: I voted for Clinton; Dr Mrs W voted for Obama; we'll both vote Democratic in November.
Prof, you really threw me on that. I thought for sure you were an Obama-ite. Was it a last minute thing, or had you always intended this?
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Talking about the Trans canada Trail?
No,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Ame...Discovery_Trail
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The trope about women needing to have more babies is racist, too. A lot of its underpinnings involve the despicable fecundity of brown people, and the marked shortage of pasty pink brats, at least in some folks' minds...
Prof W-
It is disingenous eugenics.
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Remember when the Obama people used to argue that winning the "popular" vote was what mattered? What happened to that line of argument?
It seems patently ridiculous to me for anyone to be arguing that these two are not in a statistical dead heat in which neither can prevail without the SPs.
BTW, catching Keith on the rebound and his endless criticism of Hillary and praise of Barack is starting to piss me off. What if she's the nominee?
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Oh, that country, Willow! My bad. 
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I have mountain biked at Vedder Mtn a few times, Bobby. Love those trails!
Ali, now with ADHD
Check out Cultus. They have the best corned beef in the West (including the States). Even if you're a vegitarian seek out the people working there. They're cool and speak your language.
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Then of course, New Hampshire was "stolen" for Clinton by Diebold.
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The trope about women needing to have more babies is racist, too. A lot of its underpinnings involve the despicable fecundity of brown people, and the marked shortage of pasty pink brats, at least in some folks' minds...
Not to mention, the planet's already well past her carrying capacity.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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The trope about women needing to have more babies is racist, too.
"Welfare Queens."
One of Reagan's more vile moments.
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"Registered repubs couldn't vote in the dem Ohio primary just like I typed in and Hillary won big. Get over it."
you are a fucking idiot. why say stupid shit over and over again that you know nothing about?
i'm a registered dem in ohio and HAVE voted in gop primaries, and goopers can vote in ours.
it's really very simple: show up to vote. ask for a party registration change form. sign it. pick up the ballot. vote. get another change form. sign it.
damn, you are worse then the freak trolls we get here..
night bats.
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What if she's the nominee?
"She won't be. She can't be."
-Math
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OK, there is bitching from the Obama camp, but then we hear that all those states he did win by 20 points don't count.
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Somebody tell me how a planet has a gender?
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BTW, catching Keith on the rebound and his endless criticism of Hillary and praise of Barack is starting to piss me off. What if she's the nominee?
JeffCO
I've stopped watching Countdown.
I will tune back in after the smoke clears.
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Man..just heard An-Emotion. Greatest 80s band evah!!
I thought it was Animotion, not that they're my obsession.
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Keith on the rebound and his endless criticism of Hillary and praise of Barack is starting to piss me off. What if she's the nominee?
Exactly.
I still have some hope that, say, maybe Howard Dean, Jimmy Carter, and John Edwards can get the two of them in a room and make them, as Molly suggested, play rock-paper-scissors to pick who'll be pres and who'll be the vp w/ a big portfolio. Soon.
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BTW, catching Keith on the rebound and his endless criticism of Hillary and praise of Barack is starting to piss me off. What if she's the nominee?
JeffCO
I should think he'd favor her over mcstain. I would hope, anyway.
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I thought it was Animotion, not that they're my obsession.
I, Engineer, didn't bother to tell me how to spell.
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"She won't be. She can't be." -Math
Check your numbers. Neither can win outright. MI and FL put everything up for grabs.
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Elias: the Mass. primary was before the campaign took a turn for the worse. I give Clinton points, rather than a knockout, on domestic policy over Obama, and especially health care. I disagree with both of them on something important re foreign policy, though I think either would be a huge improvement over Bush. And I like Obama enough to vote for him, too.
Excellent post a thread back about identity and enemies, by the way, even if it did feed the troll; it was on point anyway...
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Then of course, New Hampshire was "stolen" for Clinton by Diebold.
Richard
Oh, and the bullshit about MY state was that all "racists" voted for Senator Clinton.
I mean...................come on!
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Animotion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P...h?
v=P_eSnmYv0KA
Best hair, anyway.
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Somebody tell me how a planet has a gender?
Earth, Gaia, is feminine. So's Venus. Mercury, Mars, Saturn, Pluto, Jupiter, and Uranus are male.
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(I knew I should have just gone to bed)
Brooklyn Girl,
I am NOT disputing that elections are nasty things. What I am disputing is Hillary Clinton's decision to go extremely NEGATIVE AFTER she has lost. According to what I am reading she cannot win the primary elections outright. She cannot even win the superdelegates at this point without some sort of subterfuge.
The question then becomes: Why is she trying to tear apart the presumptive nominee of the party? Perhaps she feels that she can still win but if that is the case, she is playing a very dangerous game by tearing apart the party. (And again, according to what I have read, this is not even possible anyway. Like the election last Tuesday. She is going to end up, by winning, with less than a dozen delegates more than Obama. That is not much a of a win)
So why is she doing it? Ego? She cannot stand the fact that she is losing? A desperate chance of winning at ANY cost (including the election?) A ploy to set party members against each other in hope of setting up some sort of confrontation that will enable the CLinton's longstanding to serve as a benefit?
None of these are viable in my opinion. Yes, elections in this day and age are nasty things but can't we save our vitriol for our enemies and in races where we can actually win something? At this point all of this nastiness is only going to make us lose.
On a brighter note, I loved this little capsule review of 10,000 BC from the Detroit News.
Tom Long: This film is hooey of the worst sort, lacking in both imagination and vision, astoundingly derivative and downright silly a good deal of the time.
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"Que? You means in measure of pure biasness?
They all kinda stump for one candidate or another.
Zap Rowsdower"
americablog and kos are insane. The others usually have reasonable posts. Nothing wrong with supporting a candidate. There is something wrong with being insane.
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It seems patently ridiculous to me for anyone to be arguing that these two are not in a statistical dead heat in which neither can prevail without the SPs.
And neither one's going to go into the convention with enough votes to put them over the top. The sooner they decide on a "unity" ticket the better.
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When I was in graduate school and close to burning out, I would ride over the top of the Chesapeake Bay, and spend days on the Eastern Shore around Chicoteague or such, just peddling for miles on the flat roads. And I would stop by some attractive tree, lay down the bike and read a piece of some novel. Damn, I wish I possessed the coping mechanisms now that I had back then.
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On a brighter note, I loved this little capsule review of 10,000 BC from the Detroit News.
Tom Long: This film is hooey of the worst sort, lacking in both imagination and vision, astoundingly derivative and downright silly a good deal of the time.
Beowulf Schaeffer - Grumpy DWD
Still didn't answer the question, Did Fred and Barney really have dinosaurs as pets?
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Uranus are male.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
I thought Uranus was bisexual?
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Neither can win outright. MI and FL put everything up for grabs.
MI and FL aren't gonna pay 15 Mil to host another primary.
MI may put on a caucus, but that barely guarantees HRC enough delegates to break even with BHO.
The Supers will decide most of it before PA, I'm thinking.
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Animotion:
For some reason, I always loved the name of the female singer...
Astrid Plane.
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you prolly don't have the time for that kind of decompression now. I know I don't.
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BTW, reading Krugman on the rebound and his endless criticism of Barack and praise of Hillary is starting to piss me off. What if he's the nominee?
me too 
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I thought Uranus was bisexual?
So, technically, was Hermes, Mercury.
My anus, OTOH, is strictly female.
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So we agree...
ProfWombat
Indeed...
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Drugs have kicked in.
Night all
Peace.
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"-Math"
no, she can still win. But outside of a major obama collapse it's virtually impossible and could well involve subterfuge at the convention.
the convention hall is gonna be half empty, and maybe a mess in the streets, and take decades to patch up the fallout. but she can 'win' that way.
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It seems patently ridiculous to me for anyone to be arguing that these two are not in a statistical dead heat in which neither can prevail without the SPs.
http://
www.realclearpolitics.com...vote_count.html
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And neither one's going to go into the convention with enough votes to put them over the top. The sooner they decide on a "unity" ticket the better.
What would be better TV than a real convention to decide the nominee? The idea that it would somehow be bad is silly - McCain won't be able to buy the coverage the Dems will be getting for free all summer. And the polls I've heard about say the Dem voters by a large margin are pretty happy to let it go to the convention.
That said, if they're really still deadlocked by then, I have a hard time imagining a ticket without both of them on it. If Reagan could suck it up and take on Poppy, one of them can take the other.
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I'm almost afraid to even ask this but---
Evening, all.
Been away since yesterday -- has anything irksome happened since then?
As if I didn't know?
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"Earth, Gaia, is feminine. So's Venus. Mercury, Mars, Saturn, Pluto, Jupiter, and Uranus are male."
My my boggles at a way to respond to this in a way that is respectful of the points of view of others. Since this is clearly impossible, I will bid all a good night.
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'nite DWD.
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Remember when the Obama people used to argue that winning the "popular" vote was what mattered? What happened to that line of argument?
dave™©
Gore won the popular vote in oh-oh!!1!
So did Bush in oh-4.
We can't have it both ways. Not that that's gonna stop us, of course...
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well, all of those blogs have quite clearly chosen sides, rather more vociferously than seems necessary.
Ba'al
I'd MUCH rather dump on McCain.
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Been away since yesterday -- has anything irksome happened since then?
As if I didn't know?
steve simels
Not a thing. Why would there be?
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americablog and kos are insane. The others usually have reasonable posts. Nothing wrong with supporting a candidate. There is something wrong with being insane.
Not really a persuasive political on your part, if I may say so.
FWIW, I don't read any of those blogs. I just used them as examples of divisions in our party. You want to diagnose them as clinically insane, I presume you have a diploma to back that up. If not, quit flinging poo.
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As if I didn't know?
steve simels
Heh.. You don't know the half of it..
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Elias: I remember being outraged at Reagan's Philadelphia MS speech, and it being downhill all the way from there.
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Earth, Gaia, is feminine. So's Venus. Mercury, Mars, Saturn, Pluto, Jupiter, and Uranus are male."
My my boggles at a way to respond to this in a way that is respectful of the points of view of others. Since this is clearly impossible, I will bid all a good night.
Ba'al,
The planets were named for Gods and Goddesses who had gender.
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"According to what I am reading she cannot win the primary elections outright. She cannot even win the superdelegates at this point without some sort of subterfuge.
Beowulf Schaeffer - Grumpy DWD"
Neither of them can win with pledged delegates. And Hillary could win with supers.
So should obama drop out? What is he gonna do have his campaign send the most vile rat wing talking points to reporters as 'not for attribution'? Is he gonna compare Hillary to cheney and bush? Will he have jackson jr. running around playing the race card while obama's SC HQ sends out emails claim Bill and Hill are racists? Will the obama campaign claim Hillary is the most secretive pol ever? Cause he has already done all that and more. So do you think obama should drop?
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Did you see any good movies?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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Obama is currently ahead in the popular vote is what happened to that line of reasoning.
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fuck off, racist pig. nobody wants a racist, homophobic troll around here.
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http:// www.realclearpolitics.com...vote_count.html
Like I said - 51%-49% in the vote count at present and neither will be able to gather enough elected delegates to go over. If that's not a tie, I don;t know what is.
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Prof Wombat,
Yeah, we have a treadmill I need to start using. Maybe listening to some old Budapest quartet recordings of Beethoven, or Szell playing piano in Mozart chamber music will help. I need to get those things digitized!
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hadenough
Nice to be loyal to a candidate, but YOU go WAY overboard.
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"the convention hall is gonna be half empty, and maybe a mess in the streets, and take decades to patch up the fallout. but she can 'win' that way.
jdw "
So we agree obama should drop out.
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So we agree obama should drop out.
hadenough
Oh, give it a rest!
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realclearpolitics counts Florida and Michigan voters, neither of which currently count in the Democratic primaries, so no, Obama has the lead in popular votes at present.
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the convention hall is gonna be half empty, and maybe a mess in the streets, and take decades to patch up the fallout. but she can 'win' that way.
Which orifice are you pulling that scenario from?
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51%-49% in the vote count at present and neither will be able to gather enough elected delegates to go over. If that's not a tie, I don;t know what is.
Which one might think would give some folks pause. This has gone on as long as it has because a whole lot of people, regardless of which candidate you support, disagree with you. We'll find a compromise in the end and move on to the important issue: beating McCain. But claiming that either candidate is "the will of the people" or the only decent human in the race is kind of like Bush claiming that his "win" in 2004 was a "mandate" that came with immense "political capital."
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Well the rain is gone for now, but it looks like we are going to get buried tomorrow.
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So we agree obama should drop out.
Hmmm....
The guy who's got the popular, and delegate lead should drop out?
That's awesome!
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steve
Did you see any good movies?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 03.08.08 - 12:37 am | #
Short answer:
"Miss Pettigrew"
I am desperately in love with Amy Adams. Biggest blue eyes in history.

"The Bank Job"
Seriously almost great movie. A heist gone wrong, way political, eye candy (girls, they tell me that Jason guy, I personally love Saffron Burrows).
"10,000BC"
Oh please.

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fuck off, racist pig. nobody wants a racist, homophobic troll around here.
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari
...nope, everythings just peachy, Mr. Simels, sir. How's by you?
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"10,000BC"
Oh please.
How bad? Even not get it on Netflix bad?
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So we agree
was it the Dead Kennedy's who best said
Nazi punks, FUCK OFF
Nazi punks, FUCK OFF
Nazi punks, FUCK OFF
Nazi punks, FUCK OFF
yeah, I think it was Jello who said that, though I doubt he was thinking of hadenough/mr.murder/Bugs, but the logic still applies.
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americablog and kos are insane. The others usually have reasonable posts.
Ahhh ... a reasoned, sober viewpoint.
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"10,000BC"
Oh please.
DAMN!
The one movie I considered wanting to see this year! It sucked?
/back to drawing board
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Excellent post a thread back about identity and enemies, by the way, even if it did feed the troll; it was on point anyway...
ProfWombat
*bows head in appreciation*
Prof, I totally respect your position on this election and I'm not just blowing smoke up your ass.
I'm dealing with the same internal struggle.
I too, voted for Hillary. I've supported Obama for 6 months, but when the moment of truth came and I saw those names listed on my _paper ballot_ (in Ohio, we had the choice), I can't explain it.
Maybe part of me want did it to make this thing continue, in which case I am a cynical prick. Yet I admire Obama enough that I felt as if I needed to see him tested. And that I would ultimately have another chance to vote for him.
I feel like a man who's had his heart broken, and upon meeting someone new who he's attracted to, he has to make sure this is The One. This is the woman who will be there when the going gets rough.
Or something like that...
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3 movies in one day?
you do, in fact, shame all of us lesser mortals.
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ok. outa here. got work to do tomorrow.
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Drugs have kicked in.
Night all
Peace.
Beowulf Schaeffer - Grumpy DWD | Homepage | 03.08.08 - 12:32 am | #
Works for me, assuming you're not a troll.
Which I think you're not...
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realclearpolitics counts Florida and Michigan voters, neither of which currently count in the Democratic primaries, so no, Obama has the lead in popular votes at present.
I was talking about the possibility of do-overs. I think Dean will push the states to do them in the hope that it will put one over the top.
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"10,000BC"
Oh please.
steve simels
Am I the only guy who wants to see that movie, in full knowledge that it's a completely embarrassing bucket of cinematic crap?
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The one movie I considered wanting to see this year! It sucked?
Er It was directed by Roland Ratzenberger, guaranteed suck.
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Fuddddddgggggeeee....it's time for bed.
Goodnight, folks!

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I seem to repeat this rant often. This isn't 1968. Bush isn't LBJ. Clinton and Obama aren't Humphrey, McCarthy and RFK. there haven't been two major assassinations. There were 500,000 troops in Vietnam, and a draft.
This is, on the other hand, a year when the Republican candidate is someone who embraces an unpopular war, and is so unliked in his own party that they happily gave him up for dead a year ago. When Democratic voters turn out in record-breaking numbers far higher than Republicans. When the whole goddamned world, and 80% of the country, want a change from Bushist government.
We can take this thing.
The only thing that we did wrong
Stay in the wilderness too long
Keep your eyes on the prize
Hold on
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I am desperately in love with Amy Adams. Biggest blue eyes in history.
From what I've seen she spends most of the film swathed in silk - kudos for noticing her eyes!
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Jesus was a terrorist
Enemy of the state
That's what the Romans labeled him
So he was put to death
--also jello
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ProfWombat :
We WILL take this thing.
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jeffco
yeah, the do over scenario is really really cool. a pre-convention warm up. Dr. Dean is right, it's gonna be up to the state parties in both states to tap their soft money donors to do it, but if anyone can shame the troglodyte Bill Nelson to shake that money tree then Dr. Dean is 
I think it will be fun, but watching tanned/ready/and oiled thug Charlie Crist on Tweety DEMAND the DNC seat Florida delegates cracked me the fuck up.
Bill Nelson gets publicly bitchslapped by both Crist and Dean in one single day
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"hadenough
Nice to be loyal to a candidate, but YOU go WAY overboard.
Terry C - No More Repugs!"
How so? By pointing out mr. hope crying for Hillary's tax forms is meaningless crap. And then pointing out obama has never released the same information he is demanding from Hillary? By point out that obama crying for Hillary's White House papers when he won't release his state senate papers makes him a faker? By pointing out from day one obama pushed the most vile and disgeusting rat wing lies and still hasn't stopped to this day?
How will any of those vile and disgusting things obama is doing help you and me and America? For us Americans that's what it's about. obamatons not so much.
Is TP being "loyal to a candidate":
Obama Adviser: I ‘Strongly’ Believe Telecoms ‘Should Be Granted Immunity’
Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) has consistently spoken out and voted against granting retroactive immunity for telecoms that participated with the administration’s warrantless wiretapping program. This stance was part of the reason he won the support of Sen. Chris Dodd (D-CT), a leader on civil liberties issues.
One of Obama’s advisers on intelligence and foreign policy advisers, however, is someone who “strongly” supports telecomm immunity. John Brennan is a former CIA official and the current chairman of the Intelligence and National Security Alliance. In a new National Journal interview, Brennan makes it clear that he agrees with the Bush administration on the issue of immunity...
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03.../obama-brennan/
Time after time on issue after issue your most favored candidate has lied to you. When someone pointing that fact out gets you hot under the collar maybe instead of attacking the messenger it's time for you to step back and take another look.
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Which one might think would give some folks pause. This has gone on as long as it has because a whole lot of people, regardless of which candidate you support, disagree with you. We'll find a compromise in the end and move on to the important issue: beating McCain.
Exactly - we're all on the same side and yet we can still have differences and preferences without the need to elevate our own to the only clear and obvious virtues and others' to despicable vices. All evidence to the contrary notwithstanding.
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Bank Job was my choice for tonight, a babysitter lined up, I was ready for some fun. instead we wnet bowling, which was fun, and it was a really amazing mix of Florida crackers out on dates, older couples, and working class African American families.
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I was talking about the possibility of do-overs. I think Dean will push the states to do them in the hope that it will put one over the top. -JeffCO
it/they will - then over the top we shall go ... for this I am hopeful!
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According to cnn's John King, even if Hillary wins every remaining primary, including Mi and Fl, she's still behind Barak. My take is that the magic delegate # is 100. If, at the end, Barak is ahead by 100 or more, the supers will be persuaded to go with him, but if he's ahead by less than 100, it's every super for her/himself and Hillary may very well take it. That's why she has to fight so severely until the end...to whittle his lead in delegates, and making him appear weak and inexperienced and not "tough" enough is a surefire way of eroding his lead. He has to show that he has the mettle to rise to this challenge and also to prove that he is made of the same teflon that reagan was made of, where criticisms bounce off ineffectively. He didn't show it last week but maybe he's learned from that miscue and will rebound. From what I gather, if the Obama enthusiasts feel the nomination was unfairly and undemocratically taken away from him, they've vowed to Chicagoize Denver to the point where the streets will be on fire.
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We can take this thing.
The only thing that we did wrong
Stay in the wilderness too long
Keep your eyes on the prize
Hold on
"It is easy in the world to live after the World's opinion. It is easy in solitude to live after our own. But the great {person} is the one who, in the midst of the crowd, keeps with perfect sweetness, the Independence of Solitude."
- Emerson.
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Am I the only guy who wants to see that movie, in full knowledge that it's a completely embarrassing bucket of cinematic crap?
I'll only see it if there are cameos from Raquel and Tahnee.
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What would be better TV than a real convention to decide the nominee?
You're preaching to the choir, my friend.
I grew up watching political conventions - honest to God!
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mrs. i.,
Glad you got out and had some fun. Bowling is newly hip here in DC
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How so?
nobody likes a racist around here. your repeated racist remarks, not to mention your homophobic remarks, are poison. you are a TROLL. most folks have figured this out by now.
for me, it's your blatant racism and homophobia that make me want to remind everyone else what an asshole you are.
Fuck Off, racist troll hadenough. you suck.
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hadenough's been around here a long time. He's not a troll.
Again, we can disagree without hating each other.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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From what I gather, if the Obama enthusiasts feel the nomination was unfairly and undemocratically taken away from him, they've vowed to Chicagoize Denver to the point where the streets will be on fire.
To be fair, given the number of cowpies lying around that won't be too hard.
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"Fuck Off, racist troll hadenough. you suck.
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari "
Blow me.
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g has nothing to do with it
cay |
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You're preaching to the choir, my friend.
[Sneaks In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida into hymnals]
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fadin' out--'night, all
And, boys, be in nothing so careful as in love of Man,
A crafty servant, an insufferable master.
That is the trap that catches the noblest spirits,
That caught, they say, Jesus, when He walked on Earth.
Robinson Jeffers
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On a lighter note,
I just saw Rory Calhoun's matching light yellow panties on The Colossus of Rhodes.
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but you said you were leaving ... (wink)
It Friday night.
I need to keep my sanity.
Nite all...
Elias Elias: Anagram-archist.
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"10,000BC"
Oh please.
I'll stick to "One Million, BC," thanks.
BTW, Steverino - did you see this interview with Harryhausen? He was in town a couple weeks back.
And the Castro Theatre is having a big Peter Bogdonavich fest this weekend - with Bogdanavich in person, and Cybill Shepard to boot!
dave™© |
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Time after time on issue after issue your most favored candidate has lied to you. When someone pointing that fact out gets you hot under the collar maybe instead of attacking the messenger it's time for you to step back and take another look.
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cheap shot. Obama is not Brennan. you are the asshole everyone accuses you of being.
Fortunately, the republicans are desultorily lining up behind somebody they hate, have no respect for, and who is a horrible campaigner and transparent liar. Sidney McStain will be an inkblot come Nov. 5.
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[Sneaks In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida into hymnals]
Good Lord! That sounds like rock and/or roll music!
dave™© |
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if the Obama enthusiasts feel the nomination was unfairly and undemocratically taken away from him, they've vowed to Chicagoize Denver to the point where the streets will be on fire.
Ah, that "new kind of politics" that unites us all in hope and audacity.
To be honest, I don' think he wants or will allow that. It's a few hotheads talking who forget how young he is and how many other chances he'll have, if he doesn't win this time.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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My take is that the magic delegate # is 100. If, at the end, Barak is ahead by 100 or more, the supers will be persuaded to go with him, but if he's ahead by less than 100, it's every super for her/himself and Hillary may very well take it...
That's an absolutely brilliant take! That might just be the psycho-political "Rubicon", if you will.
Remember one thing, and I know this is so cliche. If it comes to that, people will go with the "devil" they know. It's just human nature. The safe route.
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Again, we can disagree without hating each other.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
But...Wouldn't that require we acted like adults??
Duane V |
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10,000 CB !
"Uh, breaker one-nine"
Gilly Gonzylon |
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Nite Prof.
Peace be upon you...
Elias: Anagram-archist. |
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10,000 CB !
"Uh, breaker one-nine"
Gilly Gonzylon
Is Simels in this one too?
Duane V |
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Time after time on issue after issue your most favored candidate has lied to you. When someone pointing that fact out gets you hot under the collar maybe instead of attacking the messenger it's time for you to step back and take another look.
hadenough | 03.08.08 - 12:49 am | #
OK, facts:
Former Clinton officials lobby for amnesty for FISA lawbreaking
http://www.salon.com/opinion/gre...lecom_immunity/
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hadenough's been around here a long time. He's not a troll.
hadenough has been around here for a long time, true. his Clinton trolling was all in good fun, no doubt. in the last month, however, he has repeatedly posted extremely racist comments at Eschaton, under his hadenough moniker, as well as under his mr. murder and Bugs monikers. he's an out and out racist. period. I don't give a shit who supports Clinton, but I will tell racists and homophobes to fuck the fuck off.
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I'll stick to "One Million, BC," thanks.
If you're talking about the Harryhausen movie, it's "One Million Years BC" and it happens to be a remake of "One Million BC". The latter was made in 1940, starred Victure Mature and used iguanas as stand ins for the dinosaurs. I am not kidding.
Richard |
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Obamorgasmics more confused than usual:
"Is our Messiah a pussy-whipped dog?"
Lubyanka |
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but you said you were leaving ... (wink)
Where else can I get winked at?

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I think this is the past the "threshold" version of hadenough.
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The latter was made in 1940, starred Victure Mature and used iguanas as stand ins for the dinosaurs. I am not kidding.
I've seen it! Irwin Allen used the same trick in his remake of "The Lost World" (and recycled the footage in all his TV shows).
dave™© |
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Richard:
Don't forget the elephants that had rugs hung on them, to turn them into wooly mammoths.
grouchomarxist |
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Is Simels in this one too?
Duane V | 03.08.08 - 1:02 am | #
Simmels babysat "Lucy"
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And the Castro Theatre is having a big Peter Bogdonavich fest this weekend - with Bogdanavich in person, and Cybill Shepard to boot!
Cybil sang bass, Peter sang soprano.
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And the Castro Theatre is having a big Peter Bogdonavich fest this weekend - with Bogdanavich in person, and Cybill Shepard to boot!
I'm going to a Macauley Culkin film fest this weeked!
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hadenough's been around here a long time. He's not a troll.
A good witch.

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Blow me.
I don't do small favors.
especially not for racist pigs.
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari |
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Simmels babysat "Lucy"
He used to sing sweetly her to sleep - they called him The Veldt Fog.
JeffCO |
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I'm going to a Macauley Culkin film fest this weeked!
24-Hour Home Alone Party?
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Mrs. ibrahim al-Jafaari,
I totally agree, hadenough hatred runs deeper than the issues. Not 100% sure what it is, but being racist has come to mind.
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24-Hour Home Alone Party?
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1,2,3,5,9!
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nyts:
Obama Camp Sees Fine Line in Hitting Back
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/0...adviser.html?
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Amazing. Poor camp obama is having a hard time walking that fine line attacking that girl Hillary.
power fell off the line:
Ms Power told The Scotsman Mrs Clinton was stopping at nothing to try to seize the lead from Mr Obama.
"We f***** up in Ohio," she admitted. "In Ohio, they are obsessed and Hillary is going to town on it, because she knows Ohio's the only place they can win.
"She is a monster, too – that is off the record – she is stooping to anything," Ms Power said, hastily trying to withdraw her remark.
http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/...e-
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I mean any other time it woulda been OK for a dem camp to call their opponent a monster and a liar and worse but cause Hillary is a girl its tough for camp obama to walk that fine line. The new kind hope and audcity out of the obama camp is really refeshing isn't it. Too bad they have to put up with that girl.
It really is this stupid.
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BTW, last week I linked to an article about a remedial math teacher at Cal State Hayward who got canned for refusing to sign a "loyalty oath."
Well...
A Cal State East Bay math teacher and practicing Quaker who was fired for refusing to sign a state-required loyalty oath got her job back this week with an apology from the university and a clarification that the oath does not require employees to take up arms in violation of their religious beliefs.
"It's the best possible outcome," said Marianne Kearney-Brown, 50, a graduate student in mathematics who was teaching a remedial class for undergraduates. "My concerns have been addressed."
As a Quaker, Kearney-Brown is committed to nonviolence and was unwilling to sign the state oath of allegiance that required her to "swear (or affirm)" that she would "support and defend" the U.S. and California constitutions "against all enemies, foreign and domestic." She tried inserting the word "nonviolently" in front of the word "support," but was told by university officials that altering the oath was unacceptable.
Kearney-Brown, a former high school math teacher, was fired Feb. 28 after six weeks on the job at the Hayward campus. She filed a grievance with the help of her union, the United Auto Workers.
In a grievance hearing Thursday conducted in a telephone conference call, an attorney for the California State University chancellor's office presented Kearney-Brown with a statement saying in part, "Signing the oath does not carry with it any obligation or requirement that public employees bear arms or otherwise engage in violence."
With that statement stapled to the loyalty oath, and a promise by the university to present the clarifying language to other new employees, Kearney-Brown said Friday that she felt comfortable signing the form and returning to work.
"We're very happy with the results," said Clara Potes-Fellow, a spokeswoman for the CSU chancellor's office. "The university would very much like her to be an employee. ... We were acting in good faith and we wanted to resolve the situation in a positive way."
That last statement is, of course, bullshit.
dave™© |
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Love- alone again or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2...h?
v=26vhE8WTKRI
Amazing what you can find on youtube.
Richard |
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Sorry... link here!
dave™© |
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GOP watching Dimocratricide from WY to PA, loving every minute...
doesn't get much better!
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spocko: sorry, i had to go for a bit. excellent post... i'm going to use that for some corro if it's ok with you..? btw. i love this sucky blog and all who dwell in it.
gungulla.
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Poor trollie - did you forget that upwards of 80% of Dems in all the polls say they'll *happily* vote for either Dem? 
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I mean any other time it woulda been OK for a dem camp to call their opponent a monster and a liar and worse but cause Hillary is a girl its tough for camp obama to walk that fine line. The new kind hope and audcity out of the obama camp is really refeshing isn't it. Too bad they have to put up with that girl.
It really is this stupid.
hadenough
It'd also be good if Hillary wasn't acting like a monster and a liar.
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Again Lubyanka=Hadenough
clear glasses |
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It really is this stupid.
hadenough | 03.08.08 - 1:10 am |
Fuck Off, Racist Pig!
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari |
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Again Lubyanka=Hadenough
clear glasses
Yes, and I've had enough of Lubyanka..
Duane V |
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Fuck Off, Racist Pig!
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Kinda makes you want to lose your temper, doesn't it?
Duane V |
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Again Lubyanka=Hadenough
clear glasses
Yes, and I've had enough of Lubyanka..
I've...
(boot to face)
had enough
(boot to face)
of YOU!
(final boot to face, troll falls into molten lava)
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When reading Lubyanka's remarks, I find it helpful to imagine him sounding like Paul Harvey -- with a lungful of helium.
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Amazing what you can find on youtube.
Indeed!
dave™© |
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It'd also be good if Hillary wasn't acting like a monster and a liar. -Duane V
you're right. She should be acting like a "Mistaker" or a blame the Low Level Staffer":
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I totally agree, hadenough hatred runs deeper than the issues. Not 100% sure what it is, but being racist has come to mind.
But that's the beauty of this place. I think that's what Hecate was getting at. We may think hadenough is a complete moron, but I believe most people here would say, "stay here, engage". At the Kent May 4 Memorial is written, "Inquire, Reflect, Learn." I like to think of this place as an extension of that.
The pen IS mightier than the sword! And therefore can cut deeper.
Hecate? Hatchet burial?
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I've...
(boot to face)
had enough
(boot to face)
of YOU!
Robin Curtis was the worst Vulcan evah.
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"I totally agree, hadenough hatred runs deeper than the issues. Not 100% sure what it is, but being racist has come to mind.
jus saying "
Comes to mind? Doubful. Anyway please point out any racism you have seen from me. Thanks in advance.
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I mean any other time it woulda been OK for a dem camp to call their opponent a monster and a liar and worse.........
The 15 minute due date on that story should be Mon or Tues.
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even NTodd...
but even then i knew i'd find a much better place, either with or without you...
fokowi |
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Kinda makes you want to lose your temper, doesn't it?
actually, hadenough's racism made me lose my temper. now it's just a choice to remind folks of what a racist he is. even the even-tempered Snow finally lost it and called the fucker out.
now, it's just a chore to remind everyone what a racist asshole he is, but as an Obama supporter I can only smile that his racism and homophobia tars his cause. doesn't lessen the need to continually call him out as a Racist Pig.
hence the Jello Biafra. chant 4 times and the Nazi punks do, in fact, fuck off.
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Where's my gravatar?
There he is!
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Robin Curtis was the worst Vulcan evah.
No argument there from moi.
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you're right. She should be acting like a "Mistaker" or a blame the Low Level Staffer":
rootless-e, didn't take
I think she needs to blame and get rid of Mark Penn, Terry McAuliffe and the rest of the DLC goons informing her campaign.
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hadenough | 03.08.08 - 1:20 am |
Fuck Off, Racist Pig!
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hence the Jello Biafra. chant 4 times and the Nazi punks do, in fact, fuck off.
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari
Jello had the right idea, didn't he?
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"Is our Messiah a pussy-whipped dog?"
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Ooh, wrong party, Lubby. that's your traitor, sidney McStain, who not a single repig has an iota of respect for, but who will gladly lie to all around them claiming they support him. He won't win 3 states, even if he lives through the campaign, which is unlikely. he'll collapse after the next blowjob he gets from a lobbyist, or gives Bush.
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I think she needs to blame and get rid of Mark Penn, Terry McAuliffe and the rest of the DLC goons informing her campaign.
Duane V
She can't
She is the DLC
We may end up with this again
Better than the horror story of now
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Amazing what you can find on youtube.
Damn!!!
Why'd you have to be a Love fan?
I love Love.
Everything from Da Capo, except "Revelation."
Forever Changes!
RIP Arthur Lee and Bryan McClean.
Elias: Anagram-archist. |
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I'm a douchebag named Lubeyanker
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"It really is this stupid.
hadenough | 03.08.08 - 1:10 am |
Fuck Off, Racist Pig!
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari "
Why so angry? Shitty life? Nothing goes your way? Born butt ugly and looks went downhill from there? Anyway the good thing is with all that hate and rage bubbling inside you are probably heading for an aneurism/stroke/heart attack real soon.
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GOP running an old, over-the-hill traitor, and loving every minute!
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She can't
She is the DLC
We may end up with this again
Better than the horror story of now
ErinPDX
If only the supreme court wasn't up for grabs.....
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Hecate, maybe another time...
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Anyway the good thing is with all that hate and rage bubbling inside you are probably heading for an aneurism/stroke/heart attack real soon.
hadenough | 03.08.08 - 1:24 am | #
You first, racist little pig, misogynistic monkey. Nobody around here has the hate you spew with every shitty, stupid post.
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Obamorgasmics more confused than usual:
"Why is our messiah letting Hillary bitch-slap him on national TV?"
Lubyanka |
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I think she needs to blame and get rid of Mark Penn, Terry McAuliffe and the rest of the DLC goons informing her campaign. -Duane V
but who shall our Savior blame?
Obama says Clinton hit memo slamming Indian ties his staff leaked is "stupid" a "mistake."
WASHINGTON -- Seeking to limit damage within the Indian-American Democratic community, White House hopeful Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) said Monday it was a "screw-up" and "stupid" and a "mistake" for his campaign to issue a memo slamming ties rival Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.)
Obama Says Biggest Mistake Was Supporting Terri Schiavo
In Tuesday evening's Democrat debate, radical anti-life Obama says his biggest mistake was voting in favor of saving the life of Terri Schiavo, who was ultimately starved and dehydrated to death for her inconvenience to her estranged husband.
Mansion 'mistake' piles the pressure on Barack Obama
Barack Obama now admits his involvement in this land deal was a mistake A British-Iraqi billionaire lent millions of dollars to Barack Obama's fundraiser just weeks before an imprudent land deal that has returned to haunt the presidential contender, an investigation by The Times discloses- Feb 25, 2008
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"You first, racist little pig, misogynistic monkey. Nobody around here has the hate you spew with every shitty, stupid post.
true story "
Examples please. Thanks in advance.
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GOP in meetings right now, wondering how they're going to win more than two states with the pasty-faced, cancer-ridden, treacherous old fart who can't stay off his knees in front of Bush.
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Gee I hope those rumors of "Little Johnnie, the Admiral's boy" collaborating with the Vietcong during his captivity prove somehow to be true.
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The last 7 years (30, actually) have beaten us to a pulp. No wonder tempers are flaring as we grab the last branch, hoping we can climb up that hill. Every day has been a new outrage since the bloodless SCOTUS coup. They've flipped us the bird, laughing at every turn, using the cowtowed dems, making people grab on to daddy's arm and go back to the old ways.
In spite of all this, the voter turnouts are encouraging. Dare we hope a bit that if a Democrat gets into the WH and more importantly, we get bigger majorities...
the possibilities
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Examples please. Thanks in advance.
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The one quoted is perfectly adequate to show your sick, twisted pathology.
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In Tuesday evening's Democrat debate, radical anti-life Obama says his biggest mistake was voting in favor of saving the life of Terri Schiavo, who was ultimately starved and dehydrated to death for her inconvenience to her estranged husband.
WTF, she was already dead, xtian moron.
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Save us from the Hypocrites | 03.08.08 - 1:27 am | #
how ironic. what a pile of spew.
true story |
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Save us from the Hypocrites
False "wire story" copy.
How Ailes-ian of you!
Jerk.
Elias: Anagram-archist. |
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Sorry, "Fake."
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there are these new ads for upcoming South Parks, putting words together, like "douche" and "bag," "douchebag."
kind of like hadenough and lubeyanker. had enough lubyanker. binary browndwarves sucking each others' gasses.
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(meanwhile, GOP partying...)
meanwhile, the night-shift troll is trolling on a Friday night. No parties for Blubwanka. Just sad, sad night-shift trolling at $2.15/hr.
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"Examples please. Thanks in advance.
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The one quoted is perfectly adequate to show your sick, twisted pathology.
true story "
In this demension there isn't one quoted. There is just you and that other moron pretending.
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"Why is our messiah letting Hillary bitch-slap him on national TV?"
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well, compared to the bitch-slapping Sidney mcCain is getting from every Repuke mouthpiece, and his loyal president, Obama is in the clear.
but you knew that.
true story |
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False "wire story" copy.
How Ailes-ian of you!
Jerk.
Elias
yes, false, how observant troll ...
It Friday night.
I need to keep my sanity.
Nite all...
Elias Elias: Anagram-archist.
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In this demension there isn't one quoted. There is just you and that other moron pretending.
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So you're an idot, too? color me surprised.
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In this demension there isn't one quoted. There is just you and that other moron pretending.
hadenough
You know what the difference between you and your toady, and an actual news service like AP or Reuters is?
Proof readers.
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Fuck Off, Racist Pig, your effectiveness here diminishes with each post.
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"You know what the difference between you and your toady, and an actual news service like AP or Reuters is?
Proof readers.
Elias: Anagram-archist."
I know I have to fire my editors. All of'em.
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I leave you dischordant peeps with the surging goodness of Team America:
America! Fuck yeah!
so lick my butt and suck my balls!
America!
late night comedy central is lettin it all hang out.
cheers
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the possibilities
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are endless...
and we ain't even done with the night...
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In spite of all this, the voter turnouts are encouraging. Dare we hope a bit that if a Democrat gets into the WH and more importantly, we get bigger majorities...
the possibilities
ErinPDX
I'm taking the attitude that this is just the family squabble for now, and when the McCains show up like the cops at a family fight, the entire wrath will be loosed upon him.
And it won't be pretty for the McCains.
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It's a few hotheads talking who forget how young he is and how many other chances he'll have, if he doesn't win this time.
You're wrong, Hecate. I respect you immensely, but you're wrong.
A long Senate career is not a path to the presidency. As James Bryce wrote a century ago, such a career makes more enemies, puts more votes on the record, and the mediocrity with fewer enemies is to be preferred.
(And the Illinois governor's mansion is not a path either, given that the last governor is in jail, and the incumbent under scrutiny.)
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between bottles I am researching micargi, greenline, or nirve.
any cruiser owners around? fetishizing the Nirve, but the Greenline's seem like maybe a better deal?
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In Tuesday evening's Democrat debate, radical anti-life Obama says his biggest mistake was voting in favor of saving the life of Terri Schiavo, who was ultimately starved and dehydrated to death for her inconvenience to her estranged husband.
WTF, she was already dead, xtian moron.
Barry from Alaska 01-20-09
you are right. this was the wrong post. I am sorry. i did have hold of the proper cite and missed it ... a mistake as it were ... I apologize to all.
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and we ain't even done with the night...
Ground Hog's Day at haloscan.
How the f did you do that?
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the McCains show up like the cops at a family fight, the entire wrath will be loosed upon him.
ah yes, like the italian family i was involved with...blood is thicker than water and such
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A long Senate career is not a path to the presidency.
How about the VP spot?
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"Fuck Off, Racist Pig, your effectiveness here diminishes with each post.
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari"
You are a scream!
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Frist - "She's Fine"
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ah yes, like the italian family i was involved with...blood is thicker than water and such
ErinPDX
Lets hope so.
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Comment by Save us from the Hypocrites blocked. [unkill][show comment]
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This is getting tiresome. Good night, bats. Enjoy smiting the trolls.
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I'm taking the attitude that this is just the family squabble for now...
I'm amazed at how what is a major flameup here is getting virtually -0- traction in the MCM.
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Elias, you know what the difference between you and your toady, rootless-e is?. answer: yes, you do.
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McCain's embrace of Hagge serves him well at the moment, but all those Catholics in the Southwest ain't gonna like McCain's supporter calling the Church "the Whore of Babylon" on elittle bit.
time for a serious re-alignment
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Barry, I think so.
One of my biggest fears is that we lose the young/disenfranchised people that Obama is drawing. But I'm sort of liking JeffCo and others' take that it could be positive to duke it out at the convention. I got to be involved in a mock Dem convention in 76 and it was a gas. Hundreds of kids from all over the state. Maybe we wouldn't lose the young vote if like dave said, we get to see this all play out on tv like the olden days.
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How the f did you do that?
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magic?
fokowi |
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It Friday night.
I need to keep my sanity.
Nite all...
Elias Elias: Anagram-archist.
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Pole watcher
It won't get any bigger staring at it...
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Barry, I think so.
One of my biggest fears is that we lose the young/disenfranchised people that Obama is drawing. But I'm sort of liking JeffCo and others' take that it could be positive to duke it out at the convention. I got to be involved in a mock Dem convention in 76 and it was a gas. Hundreds of kids from all over the state. Maybe we wouldn't lose the young vote if like dave said, we get to see this all play out on tv like the olden days.
ErinPDX
One thing that would be good about a good old fashioned convention is that the pundit's heads would assplode.
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It really is a sad and beautiful world.
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magic?
fokowi
So, do you know who's gonna win the next World Series? Just between me and you. 
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Fuck Off, Racist Pig
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Messiah Hussein Obama addresses his panting, hysterical adherents:
"I have not been pussy-whipped by that woman, Mrs. Clinton, or by that other woman, my wife..."
[GOP watching in gleeful fascination!!]
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Alright, too many sock puppets for my too tired brain.
'night all.
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ambien and woodford reserve
are my only antidotes to the forum. there's a haiku in there somewhere:
childprotective cap
pops like corked golden liquid
threads unraveling.
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[GOP watching in gleeful fascination!!]
No, that would not be gleeful fascination, that would be trying to hide from the NRCC Embezzlement investigation.
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It won't get any bigger staring at it... Elias and/is rootlees-e
nor if you make it many asshole(s)
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rootless-e, didn't take tonigh
I finally figured out what a troll is. Someone who remembers something from 4 hrs ago simply in order to make a meaningless point about nothing.
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"Fuck Off, Racist Pig
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari"
Ye protests too much me thinks.
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"I have not been pussy-whipped by that woman, Mrs. Clinton, or by that other woman, my wife Janet..."
like Tweety, you seem to have some issues with women, Brian.
even the poorest of communities offer free counseling and therapy for those who can't afford it. I'm sure Milford is no different from other towns.
and everything is completely confidential.
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"Sure it's great to go after the Bush Dog democrats, but why should the republican's get a free ride?
S poc ko "
Stock Congressional reply:
It's complicated.
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Barry, good eve.
Earlier discussion today on Southwest. Was wondering what your opinion was on their Inspection issues?
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nor if you make it many asshole(s)
Almost, _almost_ a cogent thought. Keep trying, you're almost there.
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what's it worth to you? 
in the meantime, i'll be here...
fokowi |
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Look Beavis, that cowboy dude is smilin' at ya!
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Earlier discussion today on Southwest. Was wondering what your opinion was on their Inspection issues?
EkCenTriK
It aint good 
And people thing freighters are old and worn out planes, hee.
I also think it wouldn't be happening (the fine) if the CEO Kelly had been a Bush Ranger.
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What did I miss?
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in the meantime, i'll be here...
Room for another?
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What did I miss?
geor3ge
Trust me, you don't want to know.
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What did I miss?
Team America has pissed off the world, in inimicably style.
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quick OT: Things that look like fun
http://lifehacker.com/365413/blo...building-
blocks
Papercuts I imagine are frequent.
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looks like i missed a bunch of trolls.
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All proofs inevitably lead to propositions which have no proof! All things are known because we want to believe in them.
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Barry: I'm sure you've seen this clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W...h?
v=W4OxGkmvPng
What are your thoughts? foolish pilot for trying? brilliant pilot for recovering? or both?
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Papercuts I imagine are frequent.
Holy shit!
That sure is some strong cardboard!
Yes indeed.
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It aint good
And people thing freighters are old and worn out planes, hee."
The article I was reading left me with the impression that some of this is trumped up a bit with a disgruntled employee. Valid claims yes, but it looks like Southwest turned themselves in initially.
Age of aircraft, hmmm, that is a different issue I guess. I did get an email from Southwest assuring me that all was well and there was never a time when my safety was at risk. (Received today).
I guess there is going to be a lot of he said she said going on.
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Messiah Hussein Obama:
"I am not now, nor have I ever been a pussy-whipped empty suit of a man..."
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What are your thoughts? foolish pilot for trying? brilliant pilot for recovering? or both?
The Old Man From Scene 24
I still don't know what the reported winds were when he was cleared to land. He did get hit with a huge gust right in the flare, and did a hell of a job recovering.
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Paper cuts
I shouldn't beat myself up
Over little things the way i do
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
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Lubyanka:
There's a train leaving town in fifteen minutes.
Be under it.
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holy shit. why did the plane try to land anyway?
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What are your thoughts? foolish pilot for trying? brilliant pilot for recovering? or both?
I can't help but wonder why that pilot didn't pull out sooner. In the very first seconds of the vid, the plane is already going sideways, and it must be 1G ft up...
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"d. He did get hit with a huge gust right in the flare, and did a hell of a job recovering."
Did he actually touch wingtips to ground?
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Barry:
Doesn't it look like he overcontrolled a bit, bringing his right wingtip above level?
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Messiah Hussein Obama:
"This Hillary bitch-slapping I've been enduring is actually quite enjoyable in its way..."
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The article I was reading left me with the impression that some of this is trumped up a bit with a disgruntled employee. Valid claims yes, but it looks like Southwest turned themselves in initially.
Age of aircraft, hmmm, that is a different issue I guess. I did get an email from Southwest assuring me that all was well and there was never a time when my safety was at risk. (Received today).
I guess there is going to be a lot of he said she said going on.
EkCenTriK
Alaska Air got hit with a "disgruntled employee" complaint that they were able to convince the FAA the complaint was just outta spite.
Then the tail jammed on the DC-9 off the California coast, and it turned out the "DE" had been right all along.
Sometimes ya just gotta look to make sure.
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blech ... still? - back to Chapelle
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I still don't know what the reported winds were when he was cleared to land. He did get hit with a huge gust right in the flare, and did a hell of a job recovering.
thanks. Looks like both wings scraped the runway, scary stuff!
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looks like i missed a bunch of trolls.
pretzelattack
Nope. They're still here...
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ok, micargi, greenline, or nirve ?
too many choices
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Did he actually touch wingtips to ground?
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GravatarBarry:
Doesn't it look like he overcontrolled a bit, bringing his right wingtip above level?
grouchomarxist
Yea, the left wingtip did hit the ground, I've got a link to a pic of the impact from the other side, and the wingtip after they parked.
Over Controlled to the left? No, the gust was from the right, and it lifted the right wing up, that wasn't a pilot input.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z...h?
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listen to this!!
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I still don't know what the reported winds were when he was cleared to land. He did get hit with a huge gust right in the flare, and did a hell of a job recovering.
That sort of attitude on approach is much more common than most people imagine. Obviously that is on the extreme, but sitting at a window on a passenger jet its not easy to tell that the aircraft is not always centerline to centerline with the runway.
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Did he actually touch wingtips to ground?
EkCenTriK
Here, sorry about the watermark on the pic:
http://www.airliners.net/uf/
view...e=phpOltUWB.jpg
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Here, sorry about the watermark on the pic:
Wingtip on the runway but not the undercarriage!
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Landing in LAX about 10 yrs ago.
Clear conditions. Good approach. Wheels down. Then the right wing raises up and the plane tilts at 200+ mph.
I look at the woman next to me who flies this route 50 times a year.
She says, "My, that's never happened before."
I pry my hands from the seat.
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its amazing to me the plane didnt crash.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?
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Should have phrased that a bit better.
You could see he was not only crabbing but side-slipping, coming in, so he was giving it some right aileron (or so it looked). When he tried to do the flare-out, he was also leveling his wings. It seemed to me, after watching the video a couple of times, that instead of leveling, he rolled the starboard wingtip a few degrees above level.
With that kind of crosswind, wouldn't that help explain why he rolled to the left so suddenly, particularly if he got hit by a peak gust right then?
(Admission: Not a real pilot. I just play one on the computer, so this stuff interests me.)
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Here, sorry about the watermark on the pic:
Holy mother of God.
I've never seen that.
I wonder if they've intentionally sat on that for fear that nobody will ever fucking fly again?
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Wingtip on the runway but not the undercarriage!
The Old Man From Scene 24
First thing I noticed in that pic was none of the flight controls are active.
That is, the ailerons, rudder, and flight spoilers are all neutral, this was taken before any corrective action had been taken by the crew.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n...h?
v=n8rfe8LxRZc
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heh, the story said the plane came back in a second time and landed successfully. i bet those passengers were freaking.
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pilots rule, passengers drool.
now, can we get back to my choice of appropriate beach cruisers?

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heh, the story said the plane came back in a second time and landed successfully. i bet those passengers were freaking.
pretzelattack
Lufthansa did offer free counseling to em.
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late nights with you are sorta awesome...
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Landing in LAX about 10 yrs ago.
A couple of years ago, coming into KC I noticed that the plane was descending steeper and faster than is typical for a passenger jet. It was kinda fun actually. as we approached the airport I could see why, a thunderstorm was approaching.
We leveled out and begun a normal approach and maybe 6 miles short of the runway we got into the influence of the storm... turbulence at altitude is one thing, but at that point the roller coaster effect at low altitude was very disturbing.
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Only Angels Have Wings.
tcm at 6 am.
clearly, robert osborne is a supporter of your sucky candidate.
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First thing I noticed in that pic was none of the flight controls are active.
Great post.
You can see that the flaps are in landing config, right?
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Thanks!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=n...feature=related
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mrs i after that airplane video may i say that i applaud you for choosing a bike.
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That landing sort of reminded me of this one.
I still am impressed each time I see it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8...pIVjKoUewc&
NR=1
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Messiah Hussein Obama:
"Have some of this Kool-Aid, it's a fine Guyanan recipe..."
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I need a beach bike, my infants need a beach bike, my glutius maximus needs a tuck and roll saddle with double springs beach bike.
micargi, greenline or nirve? hurry up with the comments.
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Ray Dennis Steckler mini-fest starting on TCM.
The Incredibly Strange Creatures Who Stopped Living and Became Mixed-Up Zombies
Followed by
Rat Pfink A Boo-Boo.
"You feelthee peeeg!"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?
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Great post.
You can see that the flaps are in landing config, right?
Elias: Anagram-archist.
Yea, he's got landing flaps out.
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sorry, i know about as much about beach bikes as i do about landing a plane. the discussion is interesting though.
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from 3:00 to 3:20 this fucking song makes me want to like county music...
fokowi |
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Luby, dude! Why the hell are you wasting your time here? Get an Xbox, a night job, heck even a girlfriend, something.
Just in case because I never know if the trolls understand what normal folks do : http://tinyurl.com/26lzx8
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That landing sort of reminded me of this one.
I still am impressed each time I see it.
the old Hong Kong airport was infamous.
I was a flight to Pisa (Italy) once... they have (had?) the same problem: the only place to put a runway was often not even close to being aligned with he prevailing winds.. that landing was rough and very sideways.
the cool thing was that on the return trip Michael Palin was sitting a few rows behind me so I got to briefly meet him as we deplaned!
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My last thing on the Lufthansa landing:
Looks like they were offered a runway with more favorable winds at first, but took the runway with the better instrumentation.
On the second, successful attempt, they took the runway the winds more favored.
http://www.flightglobal.com/arti...-
different.html
Barry from Alaska 01-20-09 |
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why only between 3:00 and 3:20?
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Messiah Hussein Obama:
I'm guessing Janet is not happy with the downward slope of New England Woodcraft commissions? and that hourly rate, with no 401K contributions isn't helping either.
what's worse is one of "those people" will soon be President. sucks to be Brian, I guess.
and yet you have the opportunity to vote for a guy who let his junkie wife's dad get him a job, fund his 1st campaign, etc.
so there's that.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K...h?
v=KzWVWY5QUzg
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this steckler thing is pretty wack. those bouffants rule
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Here's how to do crosswind landings. Mostly Boeing test pilots during certification trials.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?
i=5...=5fc_1189993936
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One day I want to go to St Maarten just to see thi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H...7s26o4yUn8&
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"Messiah" Hussein Obama vs John "Sidney" McBush.
Sorry Lubby, you're Fucked.

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The only time I've ever been on a flight where it felt like the pilot had his foot on the pedal, figuratively speaking, was a Lufthansa flight that left one of the London airports very late with lots of connections.
(The deicer truck was iced up. I shit ye not.)
That was a fun flight. And the Lufthansa pilots were all 'vell, ve are going to do our best to get you in fast.'
Still missed the connection, but it was fun.
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Can't help but think that Bush and his loyal brownshirts Negroponte and Abrams are upset about this:
http://wiredispatch.com/news/?id=76495
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E...h?
v=E8ZE6XK89YA
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One day I want to go to St Maarten just to see thi:
Honey?
Here's the sunblock.
I'm getting the F OUTTA HERE!!!
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Bob Hoover and Tex Johnston
Pretty cool Barry.
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03.08.08 - 2:36 am | #
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?
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03.08.08 - 2:38 am | #
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Bob Hoover and Tex Johnston
Pretty cool Barry.
EkCenTriK
You know of them, thats even cooler. Hoovers trademark "don't spill the ice tea" while doing a roll, hee hee.
Here's an interview with someone on the Lufhansa flight.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?
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Only one bottle?
Barry from Alaska 01-20-09 |
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03.08.08 - 2:38 am | #
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was just a snippet that goes beyond the cliche...
one more from trace...
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Here's how to do crosswind landings. Mostly Boeing test pilots during certification trials.
Are you fucking kidding me?
This happens that often?
It looks like the idea is to ignore the angle, and just stick the landing. But isn't there an angle at which it's impossible to land at?
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Is that how they grow 'em down in Texas?
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It looks like the idea is to ignore the angle, and just stick the landing. But isn't there an angle at which it's impossible to land at?
Elias: Anagram-archist.
Boeing recommends to land in the crab, keep the crosswind correction in all the way to touchdown.
Which a lot of guys have problems with, cause you are trained from day one to land on the centerline. But in a crab, to get the main gear on centerline, the view from the cockpit will be way off to one side of the runway.
Once it lands, it will slew around to heading down the runway, you just have to belive in physics.
A lot of guys will try and kick the crab out at the last moment, and thats when bad stuff happens.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?
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03.08.08 - 2:43 am | #
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you da man
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"Only one bottle?"
Bladder shrank 3 size too small and they had to make room for the seat cushions as well.
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and bio fuels bitch!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?
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"You know of them, thats even cooler."
Hoover was a bit of a god in the household. One of my dad's personal heroes in terms of piloting skills. Tex as up there as well. I heard about his stunt but never saw the video for years. For me, when I finally saw what he did with the Dash 80, well it made an impression.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4...8GIaN7SrGU&
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Hoover was a bit of a god in the household. One of my dad's personal heroes in terms of piloting skills. Tex as up there as well. I heard about his stunt but never saw the video for years. For me, when I finally saw what he did with the Dash 80, well it made an impression.
EkCenTriK
Bob was on the BOD when I was at Evergreen, his Commander wore our paint scheme for many years. I had the chance to have a few Tanguareys with him in Los Angeles. Never had to worry about the bar closing, there was always another bottle in his briefcase.
Hell of a pilot and gentleman.
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stop it. i'm already in love with her, ya fucker...
but, i run on anyway...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?
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"Hell of a pilot and gentleman."
Cool.
I remember reading about the fiasco the FAA pulled on him sometime back. I never did hear the outcome.
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"Obamorgasmics Stunned By Weak Campaign Response To Hillary Attacks.."
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Messiah Hussein Obama:
"I enjoy a little spanking..."
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I remember reading about the fiasco the FAA pulled on him sometime back. I never did hear the outcome.
EkCenTriK
Came out in Bob's favor.
Barry from Alaska 01-20-09 |
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03.08.08 - 2:58 am | #
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"Came out in Bob's favor."
Bravo
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z...ON2rv5XKzo&
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as a younger man, while learning to fly, my instructor put me into a stall...
needless to say, i never completed the training.
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I had no dog in the race after Edwards dropped out. At first. But she has pissed me off big time in the last three weeks.
Ba'al is probably long gone, but I agree with him. The way she behaved in our state was enough to make me vomit.
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John McCain: Bitch!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=y2D_mhqDRBY
Shrill bitch at that.
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Interesting article about a guy who can withstand extreme cold. Climbed Everest only in shorts.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Sto...=4393377&
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j...kU5-PJY6B8&
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Whoever stalls first dies.
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QuentinCompson |
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The way she behaved in our state was enough to make me vomit.
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she's still a very, very good girl...
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as a younger man, while learning to fly, my instructor put me into a stall...
I do like that song.
Stalls is nothing but FUN FUN FUN!
Barry from Alaska 01-20-09 |
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Who is Jim Hightower?
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Here, sorry about the watermark on the pic:
Holy cow.
I've only been frightened once on a commercial flight. And that was landing at La Guardia in a heavy snow storm.
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trying to fucking kill me or something?
fokowi |
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If a commercial jet is going to crash why can't the passengers just parachute?
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she's still a very, very good girl...
Nope.
I hate her. And she's surrounded by the old guard dem machine who are all assholes.
Would she be better than McBush? probably.
But putting Terry McAullife and crew back in charge is just exchanging one set of assholes for another.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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If the engines fail, why can't the plane just glide to safety?
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Messiah Hussein Obama:
"Do I look like Ken Starr?"
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4LG, you mind if I send ya some money to stand the bar a round at Eschacon?
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"Shrill bitch at that.
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QuentinCompson"
I like the report when she asked why he was so angry then immediately said "Nevermind".
Grandpa's can be like that. Just drop the subject and go on.
Okay, I am being mean. McCain has every right to run for president despite his age. But he should be the finest 72 year old president out there health and mental fitness wise. It is a reality, people grow old and things change. America has the right to know they have an even tempered candidate who has not had the tendrils of decrepitude creep into their thinking processes.
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Loopywanker's parents must still be out and the baby sitter must have passed out.
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If the engines fail, why can't the plane just glide to safety?
herd
It can, to a degree.
Stall means the wings have lost lift, which is independent of the engine, look at gliders.
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I had no dog in the race after Edwards dropped out. At first. But she has pissed me off big time in the last three weeks.
Ba'al is probably long gone, but I agree with him. The way she behaved in our state was enough to make me vomit.
Just a thought. Don't want to provoke a flameup. But what if what you say is true? What if Hillary is showing herself to be a major prick? Why is that a bad thing? Maybe that's a good sign that she has what it takes to fight for what she believes in?
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What's the current temperature in Alaska?
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good fortune.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
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Duane V |
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Messiah Hussein Obama:
"I don't know nothin 'bout no Samantha Scotsman monster..."
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What's the strangest occurence in nature you've ever witnessed in Alaska?
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4LG, you mind if I send ya some money to stand the bar a round at Eschacon?
Not at all.
Can't you attend? It should be fun. I figure the shouting should start about 10 minutes in on Friday night.
Then all the girls will start screaming that we're misogynists and that we should, "LEAVE POOR HILLARY ALONE!!!"
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"Maybe that's a good sign that she has what it takes to fight for what she believes in?"
Key is the very last part of that. She is fighting to win. She does not seem to be fighting to lead the country.
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How deep is the ocean between Alaska and Russia?
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