Hummers are vehicles of war.
seriously |
05.10.08 - 1:47 pm | #
From below:
Well, at least if America wants to adore an effeminate girl, we can elect John McCain--
Really, is there any question how he won over his Vietnam captors? He used sugar.
Wow, sexist and homophobic in one post.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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05.10.08 - 1:49 pm | #
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? Atrios is not a libertarian?
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
05.10.08 - 1:50 pm | #
driving an M1A1 Abrams main battle tank down to the 7/11 would be useful to somebody as well
seriously |
05.10.08 - 1:50 pm | #
I don't look down on people who buy SUVs, except those assholes who think that a green light plus their giant vehicle penis gives them the right to make a turn into the pedestrian crosswalk without paying attention to the existence of pedestrians.
What...nobody does that in a zip car?
Zap Rowsdower |
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05.10.08 - 1:50 pm | #
I don't look down on people who buy SUVs, except those assholes who think that a green light plus their giant vehicle penis gives them the right to make a turn into the pedestrian crosswalk without paying attention to the existence of pedestrians.
I do. I think they're harming the environment in a serious way, unless they've got 7 or 9 people in the SUV. And I never see that.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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05.10.08 - 1:51 pm | #
driving an M1A1 Abrams main battle tank down to the 7/11 would be useful to somebody as well
You obviously are not aware of Atrios's ignorance concerning tanks and Bradley fighting vehicles.
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
05.10.08 - 1:51 pm | #
"I don't look down on people who buy SUVs, "
i don't look down on 'em as much as lmao when they watch the numbers go upupup when they fill their tanks, all so they can fearlessly navigate the grocery store parking lot.
jdw |
05.10.08 - 1:52 pm | #
"I don't look down on people who buy SUVs, "
I don't look down on them. I am, however, quite concerned about their tiny little penii.
ThinlyVeiled |
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05.10.08 - 1:53 pm | #
What...nobody does that in a zip car?
Zap Rowsdower | Homepage | 05.10.08 - 1:50 pm | #
People in Columbus do that no matter what they're driving.
Being an asshole is a lifestyle choice, however.
Echidne |
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05.10.08 - 1:57 pm | #
Yay! the arabic girl is back!
soullite |
05.10.08 - 1:57 pm | #
I think very often that when you discuss lifestyle choices you've made people assume that there's a level of sanctimony and moral superiority about those choices.
Just a hit-and-run: There is an idiot here who drives a HUGE pickup-four dour, 4WD, giant tires, jacked up, etc. with a bumper sticker that reads "My carbon footprint is bigger than yours". No I did not have the courage to find him and offer my condolences about his tiny p3nis.
Warren Terra |
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05.10.08 - 1:58 pm | #
I do. I think they're harming the environment in a serious way, unless they've got 7 or 9 people in the SUV. And I never see that.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Whenever I see a Hummer, I want to stick a note on it that says "How many have died in Iraq today so you can drive this ugly piece of shit?"
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist |
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05.10.08 - 1:58 pm | #
I want a really handsome guy wearing a t-shirt in those ads. He could be all sweaty, for example, with some belly hair showing.
Echidne |
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05.10.08 - 1:58 pm | #
There's absolutely nothing special, distinctive, or distinguished about the First Family.
I have mixed feeling about this, insofar as I've never bought into the obligatory adulation Amerikans are supposed to feel for the First Family; IMO, that's an atavistic impulse that survives from the traditional reflexive admiration for royalty.
It's a projection or reification of Love of Country-- patriotism personified into sycophancy. So I don't mean to suggest that we "deserve" a more attractive First Family, or that the abominable Bushes should be taken to task for not being more attractive.
All that said, The Lump and the twin Lumpettes are so vapid, banal, and utterly unremarkable that even the 29% base of unconditional Unitard-lovers doesn't bother trying to make silk purses from these sow's twin ears.
I just can't imagine tender-hearted yahoos sitting in front of the teevee, dabbing their eyes as the Unitard gives away his little princess.
Visitor Online |
05.10.08 - 1:58 pm | #
Pope: Sex can become 'like a drug'
Pope Huey Lewis I
Stunt Woman |
05.10.08 - 1:59 pm | #
I don't respect any SUV owner unless he or she takes it off the road and scratchs it all up with brambles and bushes.
Lime Rickey |
05.10.08 - 1:59 pm | #
Pope: Sex can become 'like a drug'
How would he know?
Echidne |
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05.10.08 - 2:00 pm | #
from Pope Ratzo: "No mechanical technique can substitute the act of love that two married people exchange as a sign of a greater mystery," Benedict said in his speech." He then pulled out the vatican's holy vibrator with a bulbous head shape like JP II, and said it is on sale for the next week.
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
05.10.08 - 2:00 pm | #
I'm still shaking my head at the SUV I saw a couple of weeks ago.
Big bumper sticker:
"GAS PRICES SUCK!"
(So who told you to buy and drive an SUV, dumbass?)
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist |
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05.10.08 - 2:00 pm | #
They're useful for some people and even if they're just toys or conspicuous consumption, who cares? I have toys too.
Is this the dildo thread?
Stunt Woman |
05.10.08 - 2:00 pm | #
Being an asshole is a lifestyle choice, however.
Yes. Yes, it is.
Zap Rowsdower |
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05.10.08 - 2:01 pm | #
wtf does chimp need with a tax break anyway?
virgotex
HIS kind is never satisfied.
Greedy to the max.
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist |
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05.10.08 - 2:01 pm | #
Is this the dildo thread?
Stunt Woman | 05.10.08 - 2:00 pm | #
The SUV looks to me to be part of that attempt to isolate your own family from risks that might be out there. The idea is that if you crash it's the occupants of the other car who will die.
Echidne |
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05.10.08 - 2:04 pm | #
I do. I also look down on people who buy giant baby strollers and drag them into small stores.
All that is different from criticizing bad policies which encourage people to consume more gas or zoning regulations and government established land use patterns which create incentives which lead people to behave certain ways that are less than ideal in the bigger pictur
Or, to put it another way, policies that push you into making a choice that you isn't optimal or even sub-optimal, but doesn't present any practical alternatives.
Lots of people bought SUVs because they had the best up-front deals: even though the manufacturers' and dealers' margins were higher than economical cars, the payments were low. Detroit had focused its production on gas-guzzlers, a combination of faux 'demand' arguments and federal red tape meant that bringing in small cars was expensive.
Now Toyota and Honda are going to wipe the floor with Detroit, even though Ford and GM make small, nippy, fuel-efficient cars for Foreign.
pseudonymous in nc |
05.10.08 - 2:04 pm | #
Pope: Sex can become 'like a drug'
Take two in the morning with food.
Lime Rickey |
05.10.08 - 2:04 pm | #
I must add that a SUV can be the best vehicle for people with large families or farmers and so on. But it's not the best vehicle for everyone who lives in suburbs.
Echidne |
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05.10.08 - 2:05 pm | #
The SUV looks to me to be part of that attempt to isolate your own family from risks that might be out there. The idea is that if you crash it's the occupants of the other car who will die.
It's the same mentality that drives certain folk to buy McMansions that barely fit on a particular plot of land.
The idea is that if you crash it's the occupants of the other car who will die.
Echidne | Homepage | 05.10.08 - 2:04 pm | #
of course, that's wrong. The marketing would have you believe that, but the studies show their rollover potential is very great, and their frames aren't protective. Just another reach into the wallets of gullible consumers.
ronjazz |
05.10.08 - 2:06 pm | #
Pope: Sex can become 'like a drug'
I think the Pope must be referring to my band.
Cock Smoking Priests |
05.10.08 - 2:06 pm | #
I read somewhere that a Hummer is better for the environment over it's life and including it's manufacture than a Prius.
annie |
05.10.08 - 2:06 pm | #
I don't look down on people who buy SUVs
Given the state of gas consumption, the environment, etc., I think people who buy SUVs pretty much have their heads up their asses.
I must add that a SUV can be the best vehicle for people with large families or farmers and so on. But it's not the best vehicle for everyone who lives in suburbs.
Echidne | Homepage | 05.10.08 - 2:05 pm | #
People with large farmers should by tractors.
ronjazz |
05.10.08 - 2:07 pm | #
Well, at least if America wants to adore an effeminate girl, we can elect John McCain--
Really, is there any question how he won over his Vietnam captors? He used sugar.
Seems like a Modo outtake.
"No Maureen, only do this to democrats. Put down the glass."
rootless-e |
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05.10.08 - 2:08 pm | #
Walking this time of the year is fantastic, by the way. Like entering a big botanical garden, seeing all the tulips and daffodils and trees with long hair full of flowers.
Echidne |
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05.10.08 - 2:08 pm | #
Pope: Sex can become 'like a drug'
Concupiscence's like oxycontin: you get too much your hat's too high, not enough and you join the Hitler youth.
JeffCO |
05.10.08 - 2:08 pm | #
I read somewhere that a Hummer is better for the environment over it's life and including it's manufacture than a Prius.
annie | 05.10.08 - 2:06 pm | #
And you believed it, no doubt.
ronjazz |
05.10.08 - 2:08 pm | #
I read somewhere that a Hummer is better for the environment over it's life and including it's manufacture than a Prius.
I drive a VW..generally speaking I am always looking up at people in SUV's and wondering when they will get the fuck off the phone and stay in their own lane.
"I read somewhere that a Hummer is better for the environment over it's life and including it's manufacture than a Prius."
I read that the Queen of England was married to Henry Kissinger and they were both running the Federal Reserve.
rootless-e |
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05.10.08 - 2:09 pm | #
The idea is that if you crash it's the occupants of the other car who will die.
Echidne | Homepage | 05.10.08 - 2:04 pm | #
of course, that's wrong. The marketing would have you believe that, but the studies show their rollover potential is very great, and their frames aren't protective.
The Sopranos can be viewed as a giant anti-SUV commercial.
Stunt Woman |
05.10.08 - 2:09 pm | #
I must add that a SUV can be the best vehicle for people with large families or farmers and so on. But it's not the best vehicle for everyone who lives in suburbs.
It's a replacement for the station wagon, which, apparently, just wasn't "cool" enough.
Goes back to the whole "live in fear!" mantra this country's been chanting for some time now.
watertiger |
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05.10.08 - 2:09 pm | #
wondering when they will get the fuck off the phone and stay in their own lane.
and as we know, staying in one's own lane on RR12 can be life or death...
virgotex |
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05.10.08 - 2:10 pm | #
lexus suv drivers are, in my experience, the worst.
rootless-e |
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05.10.08 - 2:10 pm | #
Given the state of gas consumption, the environment, etc., I think people who buy SUVs pretty much have their heads up their asses.
"I read somewhere that a Hummer is better for the environment over it's life and including it's manufacture than a Prius."
When dumped into the ocean, a Hummer provide can provide a safe hideaway for our ocean friend, the porpoise.
Stunt Woman |
05.10.08 - 2:10 pm | #
Pope: Sex can become 'like a drug'
Umm... What makes him think he would know?
I thought Catholic priests were supposed to be celibate, apart from when they're raping children and being protected by the Vatican for doing so.
Seraphiel |
05.10.08 - 2:10 pm | #
But more on Atrios' original post: There is this externality aspect to some of our choices. Or "your freedom to punch stops before it reaches my nose."
When I'm fenced in at an intersection by SUVs on all sides and see nothing I'm annoyed at them.
Echidne |
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05.10.08 - 2:11 pm | #
McStain, you're not the only ex-POW in American.
If they all suckled at the government teat like you do, the country would have to borrow even more money from the ChiComs.
Lime Rickey |
05.10.08 - 2:11 pm | #
Concupiscence's like oxycontin: you get too much your hat's too high, not enough and you join the Hitler youth.
Surely you could work in something about Little Willy?
When I'm fenced in at an intersection by SUVs on all sides and see nothing I'm annoyed at them.
Wicked fun when yer on a bike...
NTodd, Poseur |
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05.10.08 - 2:11 pm | #
I don't look down on people who buy SUVs
I do. It's a big "fuck you" to everyone else, the environment, and future generations.
Moe Szyslak, cold |
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05.10.08 - 2:12 pm | #
"I read somewhere that a Hummer is better for the environment over it's life and including it's manufacture than a Prius."
That's a different kind of hummer you nitwit!
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
05.10.08 - 2:12 pm | #
I don't look down on people who buy SUVs, except those assholes who think that a green light plus their giant vehicle penis gives them the right to make a turn into the pedestrian crosswalk without paying attention to the existence of pedestrians.
I do. I think they're harming the environment in a serious way, unless they've got 7 or 9 people in the SUV. And I never see that.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 05.10.08 - 1:51 pm |
Dayton isn't a pedestrian friendly city and I nearly get run over just about every day.
And those big-ass trucks and SUVs always have only one person. And they're always yapping on the phone.
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins |
05.10.08 - 2:12 pm | #
It's a replacement for the station wagon, which, apparently, just wasn't "cool" enough.
Goes back to the whole "live in fear!" mantra this country's been chanting for some time now.
And that marketing and ads have been amplifying.
People with one infant, or even two toddlers, do not need a vehicle that large.
virgotex |
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05.10.08 - 2:12 pm | #
I went shopping for a Hummer and all I got was this lousy truck.
ronjazz |
05.10.08 - 2:13 pm | #
and as we know, staying in one's own lane on RR12 can be life or death...
especially near the wild game ranch. in the last two years of daily commuting I have seen 5 wrecks on that road. What is it with people who can't drive the speed limit and look like they are afraid they're going to fall off the road.
I'm not your stepping stone.
MP |
05.10.08 - 2:13 pm | #
Surely you could work in something about Little Willy?
Little Willy in the best of sashes
Fell in the fire and was burned to ashes
By and by the room grew chilly
But no one liked to poke up Willy
JeffCO |
05.10.08 - 2:14 pm | #
I read that the Queen of England was married to Henry Kissinger and they were both running the Federal Reserve.
rootless-e | Homepage | 05.10.08 - 2:09 pm | #
I dont' even drive that way anymore to and from Austin. I avoid Dripping and 290 and Oak Hill like the plague.
instead, i turn down Elder Hill road (by the vineyard) and take 1725 to 45 to 1- cuts 13 miles off the trip.
virgotex |
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05.10.08 - 2:16 pm | #
I'm sorry, I had to share this comment from DR on the nuptial commemorative mousepads, etc:
From People's write up of the wedding rehearsal dinner:
One woman who said she spotted Jenna earlier in the day was nervous about giving her name to a reporter, given all the Bush family's insistence upon keeping the nuptial celebrations private.
"Jenna looked at us ... she was SO close, and smiled that beautiful smile," the woman told PEOPLE. "We wanted to tell her congratulations, but we were afraid the Secret Service would come after us or something."
watertiger |
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05.10.08 - 2:16 pm | #
The SUV looks to me to be part of that attempt to isolate your own family from risks that might be out there. The idea is that if you crash it's the occupants of the other car who will die.
Echidne
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Funny you should say that-- I was just thinking of a guy I work with. He's a really nice man, mid-thirtyish; his second child is about two months old.
It so happens that he gave me a ride in his new SUV right before the baby was born. He really enjoys it, because it conveys that commanding or dominating feel when he's behind the wheel. And indeed, he's pleased as can be that it's as safe a vehicle as one could have.
Like JRR Tolkien, I'm generally averse to inordinately large and toxic machines. But I can't fault my co-worker for choosing an SUV out of a sense of parental responsibility.
Even so, I think you're right to note the self-serving confidence that if anyone's going to suffer in an accident, it's going to be the Other.
PS: It occurs to me that I've not heard much about collisions involving two SUVs. What happens when the irresistible SUV force meets the immovable SUV object?
Visitor Online |
05.10.08 - 2:16 pm | #
There's a metric assload of giant SUVs around here - nearly run over a few weeks ago by an older couple in a Hummer making a left turn from the right lane more or less on top of me. I pondered letting them do it since their Hummer was shiny and white, but instead I swerved and honked and they parked far far away from me.
JeffCO |
05.10.08 - 2:17 pm | #
Little Willy?
It takes a brave man to wear yellow like that.
watertiger |
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05.10.08 - 2:17 pm | #
What happens when the irresistible SUV force meets the immovable SUV object?
Visitor Online | 05.10.08 - 2:16 pm | #
"Jenna looked at us ... she was SO close, and smiled that beautiful smile," the woman told PEOPLE. "We wanted to tell her congratulations, but we were afraid the Secret Service would come after us or something."
Jeez, it's not like they're on safari and a giraffe walks up to the car...
"We wanted to tell her congratulations, but we were afraid the Secret Service would come after us or something."
I wonder what the budget is for the secret service stasi.
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
05.10.08 - 2:18 pm | #
It takes a brave man to wear yellow like that.
watertiger | Homepage | 05.10.08 - 2:17 pm | #
Elton John is very brave.
ronjazz |
05.10.08 - 2:18 pm | #
"I have toys too."
How many of them pour greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, and run on a liquid that America is currently extracting at the point of a gun and the cost of thousands of lives?
Notorious P.A.T. |
05.10.08 - 2:18 pm | #
Little Willy? Zap Rowsdower
Sweet! That was my second choice.
JeffCO |
05.10.08 - 2:18 pm | #
People with one infant, or even two toddlers, do not need a vehicle that large.
My parents' first car was a Mini. One of the old ones. Two adults in the front, two kids in the back. Of course, now the presumption is that kids have to travel with a Himalayan expedition's worth of kit.
pseudonymous in nc |
05.10.08 - 2:19 pm | #
Nice that Bushco has the populace afraid to congratulate the newlyweds.
ronjazz |
05.10.08 - 2:19 pm | #
instead, i turn down Elder Hill road (by the vineyard) and take 1725 to 45 to 1- cuts 13 miles off the trip.
I know the way. I work over past 290 @ fitzhugh so I have 12 all the way. Always fun when the mommies running late to get the brats to school pull out in front then slow down.
The zebra double take is fun to watch. Oh and there is a red tailed hawk nesting nearby. I see her every evening on the power pole in front of the ranch.
She can't help the fact that her father is a powerful asshat.
MP |
05.10.08 - 2:20 pm | #
I think I may add strawberries, eaten in excess, to my sword-through-the-eye migraine facilitators.
Have a good weekend, bats.
Echidne |
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05.10.08 - 2:20 pm | #
SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — Barack Obama picks up a superdelegate in Utah, bringing him within half a delegate of erasing Hillary Rodham Clinton's once-substantial lead among the elected officials and party leaders who will determine the Democratic presidential nominee.
The Utah Democratic Party named Kristi Cumming, an Obama supporter, as its sixth superdelegate following the party's annual fundraising dinner Friday.
Obama also picked up nine superdelegates from other states Friday, while Clinton picked up two.
Clinton now leads Obama by a mere half delegate — 272.5 to 272. Little more than four months ago, on the eve of the primary season, the former first lady held a lead of 169-63.
DemPA |
05.10.08 - 2:20 pm | #
Of course, now the presumption is that kids have to travel with a Himalayan expedition's worth of kit.
Heaven forfend the children have to entertain themselves by looking out the window or something.
watertiger |
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05.10.08 - 2:20 pm | #
We had a Mini when I was little. It didn't have seatbelts.
annie |
05.10.08 - 2:20 pm | #
The "combustion engine is dead" crowd are goddamned idiots.
I haven't heard the Gorebot explain how using our corn stocks for an inefficient kind of fuel is helping the starving poor or the planet.
Toby Petzold |
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05.10.08 - 2:20 pm | #
But I can't fault my co-worker for choosing an SUV out of a sense of parental responsibility.
what about faulting him for not following up his (good) impulse with solid research and a level-headed attempt to balance his parental responsibility to his responsibility to his country and his planet?
virgotex |
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05.10.08 - 2:20 pm | #
Little Willy found some dynamite
But didn't understand it quite
Curiosity never pays
It rained Willy several days
JeffCO |
05.10.08 - 2:21 pm | #
The short bus just pulled in.
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
05.10.08 - 2:22 pm | #
Although there certainly are farms and ranches around, the only thing I see most of the giant trucks and SUVs hauling is assholes.
JeffCO |
05.10.08 - 2:22 pm | #
I haven't heard the Gorebot explain how using our corn stocks for an inefficient kind of fuel is helping the starving poor or the planet.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 05.10.08 - 2:20 pm | #
Your willful ignorance is no surprise. You rightiebots need everything spoonfed into your empty heads, and usually several times before it takes effect. Don't blame your own ignorance and stupidity on Al Gore.
ronjazz |
05.10.08 - 2:22 pm | #
Heaven forfend the children have to entertain themselves by looking out the window or something. watertiger
Heaven forfend the children have to entertain themselves by looking out the window or something.
watertiger | Homepage | 05.10.08 - 2:20 pm | #
That's what we explained to our co-travelers on the airplane, but they didn't really seem to get in the spirit of the screaming and food throwing.
rootless-e |
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05.10.08 - 2:23 pm | #
The zebra double take is fun to watch.
and they really are beautiful, especially in the setting sun.
virgotex |
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05.10.08 - 2:23 pm | #
Although there certainly are farms and ranches around, the only thing I
see most of the giant trucks and SUVs hauling is assholes.
Heaven forfend the children have to entertain themselves by looking out the window or something.
Well, it's not just the Perpetual Multimedia Stimulation Experience for the back seat: it's the idea that you need five bags of stuff packed just in case little Johnny or Jennifer needs something.
(My sister has three kids, and her family car is just a big saloon/sedan.)
On the other hand, my wife went across to Oklahoma with her sister's two kids, and I'd say there's an advantage to having a spacious vehicle when you're doing 700 miles in a day. A ten mile ride, not so much.
pseudonymous in nc |
05.10.08 - 2:24 pm | #
I have a family of 7 boys(3 stepsons) and a van and SUV. No other way to get around. We however are trading in the Jeep for a hybrid to help with the gas costs.
DemPA |
05.10.08 - 2:24 pm | #
SCREW THE POOR!
The Earth is overpopulated anyway, and I mean, they are probably part of global warming somehow with their non-point source polluting ways and stuff.
It's waaaaay more important to have an alternate source of fuel for our vehicles, yea, even our SUV's should we choose to drive them.
annie |
05.10.08 - 2:24 pm | #
When I lived on a dirt road that got mushy in the spring rains, and had a 100 foot drive I didn't always feel like snow blowing, it was nice to have a 4-wheel drive SUV. It could also do some interesting things like clear fallen tree branches off the driveway.
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
05.10.08 - 2:24 pm | #
Of course, now the presumption is that kids have to travel with a Himalayan expedition's worth of kit.
Heaven forfend the children have to entertain themselves by looking out the window or something.
watertiger | Homepage | 05.10.08 - 2:20 pm
Yep. Now they have to have ipods and dvd players and never look out the window.
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins |
05.10.08 - 2:25 pm | #
I drive a VW..generally speaking I am always looking up at people in SUV's and wondering when they will get the fuck off the phone and stay in their own lane.
therealhellkitty
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I'm reminded (on an imperfect-paraphrase level) of a Dave Barry observation that's actually several years old by now, about the approaching likelihood of accidents involving the driver of an SUV the size of Rhode Island veering out of control-- when a cell phone the size of a grain of rice accidently falls all the way into the driver's ear.
Visitor Online |
05.10.08 - 2:25 pm | #
Although there certainly are farms and ranches around, the only thing I see most of the giant trucks and SUVs hauling is assholes.
and i don't think farmers, etc. use SUVs as much as they do pick up trucks.
"Sport Utility Vehicle" - designed for the person who thinks tearing ass through Nature is a good time, judging from the commercials.
watertiger |
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05.10.08 - 2:25 pm | #
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 05.10.08 - 2:20 pm
Shame you didn't get an invite to the wedding.
I know they were looking for someone to put up on that limestone cross.
Gimlet, Pundit |
05.10.08 - 2:25 pm | #
the asshole is America's largest commodity these days
Worldwide demand for American assholes is at an all-time low.
JeffCO |
05.10.08 - 2:25 pm | #
I have a family of 7 boys(3 stepsons) and a van and SUV. No other way
to get around. We however are trading in the Jeep for a hybrid to help
with the gas costs.
(Also, you have to say that the interstate ride across Tennessee and Arkansas isn't a huge source of visual stimuli.)
pseudonymous in nc |
05.10.08 - 2:26 pm | #
Know what kind of car sucks to go cross country in? One of those little Mazda's with a hatchback and no radio and no heat because someone didn't check the antifreeze for the entire trip and assumed the heater core was broken and spilled soda under your feet that froze and you don't have a coat, just a sweatshirt you bought at a Pilot.
annie |
05.10.08 - 2:27 pm | #
I'm reminded (on an imperfect-paraphrase level) of a Dave Barry
observation that's actually several years old by now, about the
approaching likelihood of accidents involving the driver of an SUV the
size of Rhode Island veering out of control-- when a cell phone the
size of a grain of rice accidently falls all the way into the driver's
ear.
The new chrysler impregnator.
Bjorn, whiteguyforO |
05.10.08 - 2:31 pm | #
It takes two villages.
MP |
05.10.08 - 2:32 pm | #
Please god, don't let Jim-Bob drive a Dodge Ram.
watertiger |
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05.10.08 - 2:32 pm | #
The uterus: clown car or burning ring of fire?
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05.10.08 - 2:33 pm | #
Confession: When we spent ten days camping in Utah last summer with adult children and some friends, we rented a humungous Nissan Armada (doncha love the names?)
On day trips, it held all seven adults, and when going to a new location, five plus a shitload of camping gear. Most importantly, it kept us cool when the temp got up to 107°
Gromit |
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05.10.08 - 2:33 pm | #
OT: Sorry
HELP! I am a stranger in a strange land and it has foreign rules.
Does anyone know how to move four thousand music files from a portable hard drive into a mini Mac I Tunes file without doing it one at a time?
Worth spending the money for a Firewire cable.
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05.10.08 - 2:34 pm | #
Confession: When we spent ten days camping in Utah last summer with adult children and some friends, we rented a humungous Nissan Armada (doncha love the names?)
Even if you managed to conquer England, what would you have done with it?
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05.10.08 - 2:37 pm | #
The idea is that if you crash it's the occupants of the other car who will die.
Echidne
Then again, there are the SUVs that tip over.
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05.10.08 - 2:37 pm | #
Dwd:
(1) Plug in portable hard drive
(2) Open iTunes
(3) File menu, choose Import
(4) Navigate to folder on portable drive containing music, hit Open
I think Atrios' analysis is looking at SUVs totally the wrong way. We're not all brothers sharing an allowance, so that my not getting an SUV makes somebody else's getting one autmoatically ok. Totally besides the whole question of whether getting an SUV makes you drive like an asshole or if people who drive like assholes tend to get them- these cars are totally unnecessary unless you drive extremely steep uphill roads, or up mountain roads in the winter when there isn't any plowing. For anybody else, the idea you need an SUV is total fantasy- you never will. But despite this, the cars use up way too much gas and some of them have proven to roll over too easily!
These cars take a toll on our society. They are stupid vehicles for most people's purposes, and if anyone's considering getting one, you should think over why you're getting it, and if you'd really rather have the money you save on gas to give gifts to your kids, to your friends and neighbors, or to donate to a hospital or charity instead.
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05.10.08 - 2:38 pm | #
and i don't think farmers, etc. use SUVs as much as they do pick up trucks.
Yes, ma'am. Not much use for a spoat ute for a farmer.
billy b |
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05.10.08 - 2:38 pm | #
Even if you managed to conquer England, what would you have done with it?
Tie it to the roof and put Crown Jewels in glove compartment
Gromit |
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05.10.08 - 2:38 pm | #
"SCREW THE POOR!
The Earth is overpopulated anyway, and I mean, they are probably part of global warming somehow with their non-point source polluting ways and stuff."
That's a new low even for you, Butler.
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist |
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05.10.08 - 2:39 pm | #
Perplexed high school teacher: Didn't I see seven of your siblings last year?
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05.10.08 - 2:39 pm | #
I am sorry, there are just too many large vehicles that are used for small car needs on the road. I have no problem with someone who buys an SUV or Large Truck for real need, but I am not too fond of the many, many soccer moms and small man syndrome sufferers down here. They do not drive them well, frequently make parking lots hell and of course the stupid things are gas hogs.
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05.10.08 - 2:40 pm | #
Don't blame your own ignorance and stupidity on Al Gore.
ronjazz
Hey, with the conservatards, everything is everyone else's fault.
Never the result of their own actions.
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist |
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05.10.08 - 2:40 pm | #
Yes, ma'am. Not much use for a spoat ute for a farmer.
are you being facetious? i no canna tell.
watertiger |
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05.10.08 - 2:41 pm | #
Energy problems, credit problems, housing problems, food problems.
Duggar solution: Let's have 5 more kids.
MP |
05.10.08 - 2:41 pm | #
If there were some way to regulate which sorts of vehicles short Mexican women are allowed to operate, I would be in favor of that kind of police state.
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05.10.08 - 2:42 pm | #
(Also, you have to say that the interstate ride across Tennessee and Arkansas isn't a huge source of visual stimuli.)
Oh, when those cotton balls get rotten
You can't pick very much cotton
In them old cotton fields back home
It was back in Louisiana
Just about a mile from Texarkana
In them old cotton fields back home
billy b |
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05.10.08 - 2:42 pm | #
"Then again, there are the SUVs that tip over."
--Terry C
From what my husband has said, they just set the SUV frame on the top of a truck chassis. Much to top heavy and easily rolls over if you swerve the vehicle too quickly.
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05.10.08 - 2:42 pm | #
My volvo wagon often proves unusually useful, even if I'm the only one in it. It moved Daughter out of the dorm yesterday, for example. And all the usual hauling of the groceries, the mega kittylitter, the occasional bicycle.
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05.10.08 - 2:43 pm | #
Terry, it's a well-understood fact of political life that liberals and Leftists don't believe in personal responsibility where the state or "the Man" can be blamed instead.
Leftists aren't for liberalism, though. They're for libertinism.
Toby Petzold |
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05.10.08 - 2:44 pm | #
It was dorm moveout day at my uni yesterday. Several students filled their own cars, and dad's SUV as well. Sheesh,
Gromit |
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05.10.08 - 2:44 pm | #
Phones! I got the last Motorola i425e in the local Target inventory.
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05.10.08 - 2:44 pm | #
The old Broncos were the were in re rolling over.
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
05.10.08 - 2:44 pm | #
If you live in a very snowy area, and you just want to make sure you can get around easier in the winter, you can just to find or arrange a lease of an SUV for a quarter of a year, but own a regular car for the rest of the year.
If you have fantasies of going on road-trips out west, and camping out in your car in very empty areas instead of stopping at a hotel every night, you can just rent an SUV or SUV-like vehicle for the trip.
Swan |
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05.10.08 - 2:44 pm | #
Is today's Toby the parody version? Sounds way stupid, even by his usual standards.
Gromit |
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05.10.08 - 2:45 pm | #
Now for battery load testing, etc.
bbl
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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05.10.08 - 2:45 pm | #
The uterus: clown car or burning ring of fire?
The better half remarked that the new Duggar baby ought to be able to walk out of that thing by now.
billy b |
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05.10.08 - 2:45 pm | #
Only one person has shown up for Zapette's jewelry sale today. People in this town are lazy.
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05.10.08 - 2:48 pm | #
are you being facetious? i no canna tell.
No, ma'am. Agreein' Too hard to access the stuff in the back of a wagon/ute.
billy b |
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05.10.08 - 2:48 pm | #
"Why couldn't they just adopt?
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist "
What, get a pre-owned kid? Horrors, what would the neighbors think. That would be like going to Car-Max and getting a used vehicle. Kid-Max.com, the way Kid Shopping should be.
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05.10.08 - 2:49 pm | #
I was always told that Jaguars were for guys with small penises. of course, that was when it was trucks, not SUVs.
And i gotta get offline for the tornado watch.'
Your WH wants victims not to have access to the courts so they can get doubly screwed, at http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com
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05.10.08 - 2:50 pm | #
These kind of conversations are troublesome for me. I try to do whatever I can to reduce my use of energy and my GHG emissions, to the point of growing my own food, passing on opportunities to travel, spending tens of thousands of dollars to retrofit my house and so forth, and then there's people driving SUVs and such, really not giving a shit about anything. I'm pretty angry about it, to be honest.
Moe Szyslak, cold |
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News Corporation, the global media conglomerate controlled by Rupert Murdoch, is withdrawing its bid to purchase Newsday.
The withdrawal of the bid was first reported on the Web site of The Wall Street Journal, which is owned by the News Corporation.
The bid withdrawal appears to be a reversal from Wednesday, when in the News Corporation’s earnings conference call Mr. Murdoch voiced skepticism that Cablevision could succeed in its bid for Newsday, even as he vowed not to get into a bidding war for the newspaper, which was at the center of a tussle among three New York moguls.
Zap Rowsdower |
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05.10.08 - 2:50 pm | #
Dunkin:
great advice for your oh-so-sanctimonious nutroot cabal here...
also, keep propagating the idea of "personal conservation"--most people don't like sanctimonious nutroots or other self-styled "progressives" or eco-twats preaching and proselytizing the Green Gospel.
If nutroots want to live in urban rabbit-hutches and travel nose-to-bung on public transit, go for it; meanwhile, leave the rest of us alone.
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05.10.08 - 2:51 pm | #
Now Toyota and Honda are going to wipe the floor with Detroit, even though Ford and GM make small, nippy, fuel-efficient cars for Foreign.
Except for the part where Toyota and Honda also make honkin' huge SUVs and pick-up trucks (can you say Toyota Tundra?).
BTW, IIRC Toyota sales in the US were down over 20% last year (or was it last quarter?).
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05.10.08 - 2:52 pm | #
Atrios adds:
...adding I'm not knocking the virtues of personal conservation, just saying that for most of us there probably isn't much room to get all judgmental. SUVs have become a symbol, but how many more jet trips do I get to take every year because I don't have one?
Er, A, buddy, no one says you have to jet around.
Moe Szyslak, cold |
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05.10.08 - 2:52 pm | #
That's Dickyanka -
"Hooray for me and fuck everyone else!"
Why am I not surprised?
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist |
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05.10.08 - 2:53 pm | #
we rented a humungous Nissan Armada (doncha love the names?)
I refer to them all generically as the "Ford Valdez"
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05.10.08 - 2:53 pm | #
Er, A, buddy, no one says you have to jet around.
Moe Szyslak, cold | Homepage | 05.10.08 - 2:52 pm | #
People try to put us down
just because we get around
rootless-e |
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05.10.08 - 2:53 pm | #
Only one person has shown up for Zapette's jewelry sale today. People in this town are lazy.
Zap Rowsdowe
Zap, does she sell online? Link?
Gromit |
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05.10.08 - 2:54 pm | #
Terry:
shove your nanny-state communitarianism where dat sun she no shine
Lubyanka |
05.10.08 - 2:55 pm | #
Atrios is just saying that he's feeling guilty abt having to take a plane down here to Austin this summer.
He wishes he could roll into town on a go-cart fueled by unicorn feces.
Toby Petzold |
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05.10.08 - 2:55 pm | #
They belong to the Quiverfull movement. (seriously)
They believe it's their God's will for them to be fruitful and that He (of course it's a HE) will provide for them.
Oh, yeah - they're creating God's private army.
Just what the world needs - more dumbass fundies.
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist |
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05.10.08 - 2:55 pm | #
"Except for the part where Toyota and Honda also make honkin' huge SUVs and pick-up trucks (can you say Toyota Tundra?)."
Tundras are a big deal here since we have a factory in town now. But I don't get the point of the Tundra. If I want a big, gas hungry truck, Chevy or Ford are just as good. In many respects, I am disappointed in Toyota in their not making something more cutting edge. The Tundra is nothing more than an easy grab for the small man syndrome crowd.
And Honda's "truck", give me a break, that is certainly a practical vehicle.
EkCenTriK |
05.10.08 - 2:55 pm | #
I'm pretty angry about it, to be honest. Moe Szyslak
Virtue is its own reward.
JeffCO |
05.10.08 - 2:55 pm | #
Pope: Sex can become 'like a drug'
Like Viagra, it makes my peepee get all hard and stuff.
ralphie |
05.10.08 - 2:56 pm | #
shove your nanny-state communitarianism where dat sun she no shine
Oh, save your tough guy talk for JANET, brian.
I'm not impressed.
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist |
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05.10.08 - 2:56 pm | #
I jet around about 4- 6 times a year. The rest of the time I take public transport and electric trains and the odd trip with the Smart Car.
mimi |
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05.10.08 - 2:56 pm | #
Virtue is its own reward.
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it better be
rootless-e |
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05.10.08 - 2:56 pm | #
Terry:
listen to Dunkin: have your own personal eco-crusade, eco-parade, whatever, knock yourself out--leave the rest of us alone, dude
Lubyanka |
05.10.08 - 2:56 pm | #
Virtue is its own reward.
Tell that to the 100 million Bangledeshian refugees in 2030.
Moe Szyslak, cold |
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05.10.08 - 2:56 pm | #
He wishes he could roll into town on a go-cart fueled by unicorn feces.
That's about as funny as a turd in the punchbowl, Tubbs.
billy b |
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05.10.08 - 2:57 pm | #
I'm pretty angry about it, to be honest. Moe Szyslak
Also, excessive fuming can't be good for the environment.
JeffCO |
05.10.08 - 2:57 pm | #
SUVs pollute. Keep the environment clean for your kids & fellow man & woman.
Swan |
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05.10.08 - 2:57 pm | #
Just switched to Firefox,
With Dog Burner, Dickyanka and the Allen Butler Sockpuppet Theater, the stoopid and mean was just getting too thick in here.
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist |
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05.10.08 - 2:58 pm | #
Try buying a glamorous bike instead-- at least for your "fun" needs, if not for your transportaion ones. Reliving your childhood and peddling around in nice areas is fun.
Swan |
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05.10.08 - 2:58 pm | #
He wishes he could roll into town on a go-cart fueled by unicorn feces.
That's about as funny as a turd in the punchbowl, Tubbs.
I actually chuckled at that.
Then, in penance, I cut off my nipples with a cooking scissors.
Stunt Woman |
05.10.08 - 2:58 pm | #
Mr. Yellowbar seems to be in doubt with his ability to count.
EkCenTriK |
05.10.08 - 2:58 pm | #
I was passed on the Ventura freeway yesterday by a Smart car -- a cute little blue thang, but seemingly zippy enough.
Toonscribe |
05.10.08 - 2:59 pm | #
they'll have to pry my crumpled suv off my rolled over cold body.
rootless-e |
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05.10.08 - 3:00 pm | #
I drive a Smart Car in a city populated with Ferraris, Maserattis and Lamborghinis, and the ever-popular Bentleys. he he
mimi |
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05.10.08 - 3:01 pm | #
I Then, in penance, I cut off my nipples with a cooking scissors.
That could be painful.
billy b |
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05.10.08 - 3:01 pm | #
Here's her blog, though.
Zap, she's serving CAKE and people are not showing up?
Minnesotans, what the hell is wrong with you?
Gromit |
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05.10.08 - 3:02 pm | #
I Then, in penance, I cut off my nipples with a cooking scissors.
Don't try this at home kids
bill |
05.10.08 - 3:02 pm | #
Wow.
Watching a show on MSNBC about the Mary Winkler case,
The woman that shot her fundie preacher husband. I'm not excusing what she did, but I sure as hell understand it.
The guy was a bully of the worst sort - when the baby cried, he'd pinch her nostrils shut till the child couldn't breathe.
This is in addition to all the other shit he used to pull on his wife and kids.
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist |
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05.10.08 - 3:03 pm | #
Nice jewellery and cute wife, Zap. congratulations for finding such a talented lady and then somehow convincing her to marry you!
mimi |
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05.10.08 - 3:03 pm | #
Minnesotans, what the hell is wrong with you?
That's what I'M saying.
/takes another sip of sangria
Zap Rowsdower |
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05.10.08 - 3:03 pm | #
That could be painful.
On the contrary - was shear delight.
JeffCO |
05.10.08 - 3:04 pm | #
That could be painful.
On the contrary - was shear delight.
[RIMSHOT]
billy b |
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05.10.08 - 3:04 pm | #
That could be painful.
On the contrary - was shear delight.
JeffCO
Now, cut that out!
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist |
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05.10.08 - 3:05 pm | #
RAZOR sharp!
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist |
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05.10.08 - 3:06 pm | #
That could be painful.
On the contrary - was shear delight.
JeffCO
Now, cut that out
Oh, Raaaaaaaa-chester.
billy b |
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05.10.08 - 3:06 pm | #
Lets nip this in the bud right now
bill |
05.10.08 - 3:07 pm | #
Now, cut that out
Oh, Raaaaaaaa-chester.
billy b
"Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssss????"
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist |
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05.10.08 - 3:07 pm | #
Here's her blog, though.
Zap, she's serving CAKE and people are not showing up?
Minnesotans, what the hell is wrong with you?
Gromit | Homepage | 05.10.08 - 3:02 pm |
Now if she were serving casserole and lime jello with the little marshmallows in it, I'd be there in a heartbeat.
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins |
05.10.08 - 3:07 pm | #
Some people are going to milk this nipple thing for all it is worth. That's a let down.
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
05.10.08 - 3:08 pm | #
Must make a cat food run.
Be back in a few.
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist |
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05.10.08 - 3:08 pm | #
How can a guy from Hawaii not know how many states there are in the Union?
Obama's a cultural interloper. I don't recognize him as a Real American.
Toby Petzold |
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05.10.08 - 3:08 pm | #
zap, get her blog on stumble!
mimi |
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05.10.08 - 3:09 pm | #
Now if she were serving casserole and lime jello with the little marshmallows in it, I'd be there in a heartbeat.
/runs to grocery store, buys green beans and french fried onions
Zap Rowsdower |
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05.10.08 - 3:09 pm | #
Some people are going to milk this nipple thing for all it is worth. That's a let down.
Helps to keep from sucking hind tit.
billy b |
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05.10.08 - 3:14 pm | #
You people have long mammaries.
I thought we were done with the Duggars
JeffCO |
05.10.08 - 3:15 pm | #
I do really try not to be judgmental but get royally pissed off for being sneered at for at least trying to conserve.
qlª |
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05.10.08 - 3:16 pm | #
oh well, lambert has taken to just disappearing my posts from correntewire.
rootless-e
Why do you care what another blogger writes. It's not like it's the NY Times.
qlª |
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05.10.08 - 3:17 pm | #
listen to Dunkin: have your own personal eco-crusade, eco-parade, whatever, knock yourself out--leave the rest of us alone, dude
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Fuck y8ou, lubby. We're taking your gas-guzzlers away, and putting trains back in the mix. Your days of destroying the future of our children are over. Pigs are fed, hogs are slaughtered.
ronjazz |
05.10.08 - 3:17 pm | #
Ford Lamprey
Chevy Hindenburg
Chrysler Gout
Richard
A few years back, I dreamed up Chevy Armada (to match the Ford Expedition).
And then Nissan used the name for real.
Upsidasium |
05.10.08 - 3:17 pm | #
I remember when I would criticize people who use SUVs as penis substitutes, drive like they own the road, support terrorism by driving their three-ton monster truck to 7-11 for milk, and so on, only to have some jackass tell me I'm envious of him because I can't afford one. You know what? I make $66K a year, and I could WELL afford to drive an SUV; I simply choose not to. I am, however, very envious of you, Mr. Atrios, because you have reasonably reliable public transportation at your disposal, and I don't.
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05.10.08 - 3:17 pm | #
I thought we were done with the Duggars
The next bambino's going to fly out of Michele Duggar's cooch like it was shot out of a potato cannon.
billy b |
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05.10.08 - 3:18 pm | #
I'm quite perplexed by this headline at the WaPo website:
First daughter's decision to wed privately disappoints a public fascinated by her coming of age.
Libertarians, and many but not all conservatives, don't seem to think they're free unless they have the freedom to blow their cigar smoke in your face.
An ignorant, adolescent, illogical, willfully blind way to look at freedom, seems to me.
ProfWombat |
05.10.08 - 3:22 pm | #
Libertarians, and many but not all conservatives, don't seem to think they're free unless they have the freedom to blow their cigar smoke in your face.
An ignorant, adolescent, illogical, willfully blind way to look at freedom, seems to me.
They think the social contract refers to a disease.
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
05.10.08 - 3:23 pm | #
An ignorant, adolescent, illogical, willfully blind way to look at freedom, seems to me.
"I got mine, fuck the rest."
Richard |
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05.10.08 - 3:24 pm | #
I can't imagine why anyone would call you sanctimonious when you call it a "giant vehicle penis." Besides, as a pedestrian in New York, the people who you have to worry about being run over by are the bicyclists. Drivers generally obey the traffic signals.
Dave in NYC |
05.10.08 - 3:27 pm | #
Over-reaching environmentalists do piss me off. The ivory-billed woodpecker debacle was a classic example. I see a different sort of bullshit with the polar bear:
There is little doubt that polar bears will have a lesser AOO, EOO and habitat quality in the future. However, no direct relation exists between these measures and the abundance of polar bears. While some have speculated that polar bears might become extinct within 100 years from now, which would indicate a population decrease of >50% in 45 years based on a precautionary approach due to data uncertainty. A more realistic evaluation of the risk involved in the assessment makes it fair to suspect population reduction of >30%.
Scientifically, this translates to: we haven't a fucking clue. All we know is that bears are like goddamn squirrels when it comes to adapting provided they aren't being slaughtered like there's no tomorrow by white people (a banned activity for quite a long time now).
Nevertheless, if you read the "warning" up on Daily Kos right now, it says: Indeed, there is international scientific agreement that the polar bear is heading toward extinction unless it is protected
Of course, "it" in this context refers not to the polar bear but to its habitat, under the Endangered Species Act.
MY LIBERAL FRIENDS PLEASE DO NOT ABUSE SCIENCE TO ACHIEVE LAUDABLE GOALS WHEN IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO DO SO
The genius of the GOP is that they've managed to convince conservatives with declining prospects that the source of their problems is poor people and big government, not fat cat CEOs with big tax cuts in their pockets are shipping jobs overseas and/or driving their companies into ground.
Richard |
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05.10.08 - 3:29 pm | #
America is not addicted to oil. America is addicted to its grotesque lifestyle. If it could be run on the blood of the "other's" children, it would be. Oh, wait...
The difference between a Hummer and a Hybrid is the difference between veal and steak.
Salieri |
05.10.08 - 3:32 pm | #
Just driving by. My lifestyle choices are good choices because I've made the right choices.
Harcourt Doghiney (D-TX) |
05.10.08 - 3:33 pm | #
The difference between a Hummer and a Hybrid is the difference between veal and steak.
Any suggestions?
billy b |
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05.10.08 - 3:34 pm | #
The problem with complex systems is that it's hard to predict the outcome of even small changes in them accurately, and to extrapolate from current trends. So some environmental and climatological thinking is tentative, or worst-case scenario extrapolation. It isn't certainty. It's the way to bet, though. And being wrong can mean being catastrophically wrong. And by this time, the data are overwhelming re anthropogenic global warming, and peak oil.
ProfWombat |
05.10.08 - 3:35 pm | #
I don't want to have to make the choice of having things I want or not having anything. When the desire to have things is out weighed by the desire to not have anything but good thoughts, it's time to give up everything. I'm not willing to do that.
Ralphie |
05.10.08 - 3:38 pm | #
People read it. And stuff from blogs gets picked up in the media.
Oh yeah, when's the last time you saw a reference to my third nipple or specially-trained gerbils in the New York Times?
bebe rebozo |
05.10.08 - 3:38 pm | #
What's going to happen if your main squeeze gets beat in her senate race?
billy b |
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05.10.08 - 3:40 pm | #
My bl;ow-war with The Editors has grown intense. And is growing intenser even as we speak.
Thers |
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05.10.08 - 3:40 pm | #
Why do you care what another blogger writes. It's not like it's the NY Times.
Because as the Editors are learning to their cost, words matter. Perhaps especially on blogs. What would a blog be without words? Just so many Snorg T-Shirt ads. And what sort of a world would that be to live in?
Thers |
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05.10.08 - 3:42 pm | #
Speaking of "sanctimonious", fuck the censors-- whoops, spozed to genteely call 'em "moderators"-- at that trash-tabloid Huffington Post!
As soon as I saw this headline:
How To Eat Like A MILF (A Mother's Day Special)
I commented:
What a disappoinment! I misread the headline as "How To Eat A MILF (A Mother's Day Special)"
__________________________
OK, I admit YMMV, but I think they should've let it through so The People could decide.
Visitor Online |
05.10.08 - 3:42 pm | #
You use big words, Thers.
annie |
05.10.08 - 3:43 pm | #
What's going to happen if your main squeeze gets beat in her senate race?
She will always have memories of Strom asking her to put on black face before they fucked.
bebe rebozo |
05.10.08 - 3:43 pm | #
Oh yeah, when's the last time you saw a reference to my third nipple or specially-trained gerbils in the New York Times?
bebe rebozo | 05.10.08 - 3:38 pm | #
Wasn't there something in the style section just last week?
rootless-e |
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05.10.08 - 3:44 pm | #
...hmmmm...
...certainly can't say that the good people of Central Orygun are casually indifferent to the appearance of Barack Obama. The hundreds and hundreds of tickets for his town haul meeting in Bend were gone in an hour yesterday, hundreds and hundreds of people were turned away, and his town hall is live right now on three of the four local network channels...
Jack K., the Grumpy Forester |
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05.10.08 - 3:46 pm | #
My bl;ow-war with The Editors has grown intense. And is growing intenser even as we speak.
Oh my, you fellows are having a bit of a row, aren't you?
billy b |
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05.10.08 - 3:46 pm | #
Because as the Editors are learning to their cost, words matter. Perhaps especially on blogs. What would a blog be without words? Just so many Snorg T-Shirt ads. And what sort of a world would that be to live in?
Thers | Homepage | 05.10.08 - 3:42 pm | #
Someone is going to smack your muddled intentionalism up the side of the head
Just a word to the wise.
rootless-e |
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05.10.08 - 3:47 pm | #
People read it. And stuff from blogs gets picked up in the media.
rootless-e
So. People write lots of shit. People read lots of shit. Are you the blog police. It's his blog.
qlª |
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05.10.08 - 3:49 pm | #
Oh my, you fellows are having a bit of a row, aren't you?
A learned disputation.
With Wendy O. Williams YouTubes.
Thers |
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05.10.08 - 3:49 pm | #
Wasn't there something in the style section just last week?
No, that was a tres chic article on Bob's portrayal of Claws von Bulow.
bebe rebozo |
05.10.08 - 3:49 pm | #
town haul
The new Toyota SUV.
Upsidasium |
05.10.08 - 3:49 pm | #
Someone is going to smack your muddled intentionalism up the side of the head
Just a word to the wise.
Oh, my.
billy b |
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05.10.08 - 3:50 pm | #
So. People write lots of shit. People read lots of shit. Are you the blog police. It's his blog.
qlª | Homepage | 05.10.08 - 3:49 pm | #
He invites comments. Or did.
rootless-e |
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05.10.08 - 3:50 pm | #
Do you hear me?
Do you care?
Do you hear me?
Do you care?
My lips are moving and the sound's coming out
The words are audible but I have my doubts
That you realise what has been said
You look at me as if you're in a daze
It's like the feeling at the end of the page when you realise
You don't know what you just read.
What are words for
When no one listens anymore
What are words for
When no one listens what are words for
When no one listens
There's no use talking at all.
Richard |
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05.10.08 - 3:51 pm | #
You keep on knockin but you can't come in.
annie |
05.10.08 - 3:52 pm | #
No, that was a tres chic article on Bob's portrayal of Claws von Bulow.
bebe rebozo | 05.10.08 - 3:49 pm | #
Might have been in the real-estate section then.
"Third nipple not a problem in Hamptons pied-a-terre for $27million"
...certainly can't say that the good people of Central Orygun are casually indifferent to the appearance of Barack Obama. The hundreds and hundreds of tickets for his town haul meeting in Bend were gone in an hour yesterday, hundreds and hundreds of people were turned away, and his town hall is live right now on three of the four local network channels...
Jack K., the Grumpy Forester
Well, the Beatles went from "I want to hold your hand" to "Sargent Pepper" in three short years, so...
Salieri |
05.10.08 - 3:54 pm | #
Just so many Snorg T-Shirt ads. And what sort of a world would that be to live in?
[looks around for sign-up sheet]
Jack K., the Grumpy Forester |
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05.10.08 - 3:54 pm | #
Blog police! Open up!
Moe Szyslak, cold |
Homepage |
05.10.08 - 3:55 pm | #
...first a typo, now slanties...
pffft...
Jack K., the Grumpy Forester |
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05.10.08 - 3:56 pm | #
Blog police! Open up!
Moe Szyslak, cold | Homepage | 05.10.08 - 3:55 pm | #
...certainly can't say that the good people of Central Orygun are casually indifferent to the appearance of Barack Obama. The hundreds and hundreds of tickets for his town haul meeting in Bend were gone in an hour yesterday, hundreds and hundreds of people were turned away, and his town hall is live right now on three of the four local network channels...
Jack K., the Grumpy Forester
You gotta be fuckin kidding me. All those white people going to see Obama? Of course, many are California transplants and we know they don't work hard.
ErinPDX |
05.10.08 - 3:58 pm | #
Of course, many are California transplants and we know they don't work hard.
Goren and Eames are the detectives: Law and Order: Blogosphere.
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
05.10.08 - 3:59 pm | #
You gotta be fuckin kidding me. All those white people going to see Obama? Of course, many are California transplants and we know they don't work hard.
ErinPDX
...no....no.....
[studies the screen intently, scanning the crowd]
A lot of them actually look legit...
[bolts wildly for the door]
Jack K., the Grumpy Forester |
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05.10.08 - 4:01 pm | #
Just finished mowing the lawn with my whisper quiet battery powered lawn mower. Finished my yard work by planting my organic vegetable garden for the summer. It is fertilized by the compost heap I have carefully maintained for years.
Shared Humanity |
05.10.08 - 4:01 pm | #
that shane macgowan clip is startling. i didn't know that the irish drank gin.
rootless-e |
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05.10.08 - 4:02 pm | #
hey QL -
Thers is here bitching about this blog and who said what to who all the time. And others do the same. Just because rootless isn't one of your online buddies doesn't mean you need to be a hypocrite. Chastise all or none. Give it a rest.
stevie |
05.10.08 - 4:03 pm | #
my argument with lambert strether is at least as substantive and illuminating as Thers argument with the Editors. Or at least close.
rootless-e |
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05.10.08 - 4:03 pm | #
Sign zee papers, old man
Richard |
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05.10.08 - 4:04 pm | #
how many jet trips do I get to take every year
None. But that's not the point.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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05.10.08 - 4:05 pm | #
I worked out in the garden today for a few hours, until the rain came. Mostly, I'm growing rocks. I got yet another giant one today, too big to measure at present.
Moe Szyslak, cold |
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05.10.08 - 4:05 pm | #
hey QL -
Thers is here bitching about this blog and who said what to who all the time. And others do the same. Just because rootless isn't one of your online buddies doesn't mean you need to be a hypocrite. Chastise all or none. Give it a rest.
my argument with lambert strether is at least as substantive and illuminating as Thers argument with the Editors. Or at least close.
rootless-e
No, Thers wins because he has themthere youtubes.
ErinPDX |
05.10.08 - 4:06 pm | #
A learned disputation.
Is that what you kids call it, these days?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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05.10.08 - 4:08 pm | #
So can we talk some more about today's white wedding and the burnt sacrifices upon its unholy limestone altar?
War On War Off |
05.10.08 - 4:08 pm | #
I gardened today. I "planted" another two aeolian pipes today, looked at the cactus, and said yep, they are doing OK.
Doug |
05.10.08 - 4:08 pm | #
Thers is here bitching about this blog and who said what to who all the time.
About what blog?
And it's not bitching: it is politely explaining the failings of others, so it's more in the nature of providing a service.
Or something. Anyway, if it means anything, I rarely go into the comments of people I disagree with, though I won't say I haven't done that previously.
Thers |
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05.10.08 - 4:08 pm | #
billy b, was thinking about you on the way home from baseball game - i want a mother's day jam.
ErinPDX |
05.10.08 - 4:08 pm | #
Sigh. Here's the landscaper to give me the bad news basic.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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05.10.08 - 4:09 pm | #
I hate the word lifestyle.
Cookie Fleck `08 |
05.10.08 - 4:10 pm | #
I mean, it's a really huge rock. Maybe 500 pounds. I don't know what to do with it.
Moe Szyslak, cold |
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05.10.08 - 4:10 pm | #
Just finished mowing the lawn with my whisper quiet battery powered lawn mower.
I cut the grass by pouring gasoline all over it and setting it on fire.
Thers |
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05.10.08 - 4:10 pm | #
When we're not "knocking boots," yes.
Thers |
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05.10.08 - 4:12 pm | #
What shane macgowan clip?
The one The Editors is trying to hurt my feelings with. He's just a bully.
Thers |
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05.10.08 - 4:12 pm | #
Regarding your post, Atrios, no matter how hard one tries to be green and do the right thing, someone else is doing it better and some really are holier than thou. Even when I lived in the city and walked my toddlers for miles a night, I was once "caught" using my car to haul the toddlers to the grocery store by a hoity toity stinky dead head bike friend. We're talking 2 huge, strong boys who were so energetic that I once had to abandon the stroller and everything. Well friend, I'd like to see YOU try it.
ErinPDX |
05.10.08 - 4:14 pm | #
I mean, it's a really huge rock. Maybe 500 pounds. I don't know what to do with it.
Moe Szyslak, cold
...small bag of anfo-nitrate fertilizer; gallon can of diesel; plastic cup.
Place cup mouth down on rock. Mix fertilizer and diesel together; mold over cup. Stick in blasting cap(you do have a blasting cap, right?}, light fuse.
Run like hell....
Jack K., the Grumpy Forester |
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05.10.08 - 4:14 pm | #
geez Jack, did anybody from Warm Springs make it? That crowd is embarrassingly white.
ErinPDX |
05.10.08 - 4:15 pm | #
I mean, it's a really huge rock. Maybe 500 pounds. I don't know what to do with it.
How does one measure a rock? Surface area, cubic volume, weight, I just don't know.
Ralphie |
05.10.08 - 4:15 pm | #
SUVs have become a symbol, but how many more jet trips do I get to take every year because I don't have one?
Actually, this is a really important concern. Something I wrote a while back:
But perhaps the most difficult area to control is human behaviour.
For example, there is a sociological theorem called the Khazzoom-Brookes Postulate, which suggests that as energy efficiency increases, overall consumption of energy actually goes up, not down. The idea can apply to GHG emissions as well.
It works like this: As people insulate their houses and take transit to work, they end up saving a lot of money. They then spend that extra money on things that cause even more GHG emissions than their old, uninsulated houses and SUVs did—buying more food that is shipped from far-flung locales, for example. Or, they travel to far-away lands.
----
Here in Canada they talk about people retrofiting their houses to save money on heating, then using the saved money to buy a patio heater for their deck, or a driveway warmer.
Moe Szyslak, cold |
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05.10.08 - 4:16 pm | #
Sorry, Thers. Your comments are always interesting. All I'm saying is it comes across as bullying when QL starts chastising a poster for nothing out of the ordinary. You rock.
stevie |
05.10.08 - 4:16 pm | #
Thers is here bitching about this blog and who said what to who all the time. And others do the same. Just because rootless isn't one of your online buddies doesn't mean you need to be a hypocrite. Chastise all or none. Give it a rest.
stevie | 05.10.08 - 4:03 pm | #
i have no idea who you are or what you're talking about. Last I heard anyone is allowed to say pretty much whatever they want on their own blogs. If you don't like what they are saying, don't read.
qlª |
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05.10.08 - 4:17 pm | #
it's a really huge rock. I don't know what to do with it.
Sculptor's chisels, hammers. Carve it into yard art.
Doug |
05.10.08 - 4:19 pm | #
I like MacGowan. He's so over the top it's ridiculous, and he's hands down the ugliest guy in music, or anywhere, for that matter.
Their version of Dirty Old Town is wonderful.
Moe Szyslak, cold |
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05.10.08 - 4:20 pm | #
geez Jack, did anybody from Warm Springs make it? That crowd is embarrassingly white.
ErinPDX
...a few might be mixed in the crowd (local reporter just said there were 2500 people there). Getting tickets was like being in line to buy the newest hottest video gaming system; people were lined up for hours, the line extended 2 or 3 blocks, and as many people didn't get tickets (ahem) as did...
Jack K., the Grumpy Forester |
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05.10.08 - 4:21 pm | #
He's been killfiled.
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist |
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05.10.08 - 4:22 pm | #
Jack, yep...right place at the right time. I couldn't get tix when he came to Portland as I was in C. OR....10,000 gone in a flash.
ErinPDX |
05.10.08 - 4:24 pm | #
If Obama wins the Nov election, you know what is going to be the worst part of his presidency?
no one cares about representative fossella's love child except the new york media and the far left rabid haters. he didnt abort his love child as fo many liberals would have. reperesentatinve fossella has been good for staten island and has stood strong against terrorism and i am positive his voters will reward him with another term. this in no way can compare to the lies and crap clinton pulled in front of a grand jury
sonny ablaza |
05.10.08 - 4:27 pm | #
And the best part will be that we steamroll the Repubicans.
Shared Humanity |
05.10.08 - 4:27 pm | #
...sonny's feelin' the flop sweats comin' on again...
Jack K., the Grumpy Forester |
Homepage |
05.10.08 - 4:28 pm | #
Atrios wants us all not to be sanctimonious!
ThatGuy |
05.10.08 - 4:28 pm | #
I still say that Repubicans were pissed about the Monica Lewinsky thing because they have to pay for it.
Shared Humanity |
05.10.08 - 4:29 pm | #
Obama's a cultural interloper. I don't recognize him as a Real American.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 05.10.08 - 3:08 pm | #
You get an "A" in creative racism, fat man. You're the one who doesn't deserve American citizenship, by the way.
ronjazz
I love how certain mouthbreathers think they have the authority to decide who is or isn't a "real American".
Particularly a jackass like the Austin Sociopath.
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist |
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05.10.08 - 4:29 pm | #
Wholly crap. Zapette's friends' daughter just befouled our house with anime karaoke. Now I've got a headache.
Zap Rowsdower |
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05.10.08 - 4:29 pm | #
Atrios wants us all to be truly scrumptious.
Richard |
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05.10.08 - 4:30 pm | #
...sonny's feelin' the flop sweats comin' on again...
Jack K., the Grumpy Forester
sonny should learn to think for himself.
But I guess when you're not too bright, that's a tall order.
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist |
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05.10.08 - 4:30 pm | #
I'm gonna go to the tavern and drink too much. Laters.
Moe Szyslak, cold |
Homepage |
05.10.08 - 4:31 pm | #
I'm gonna go to the tavern and drink too much. Laters.
Moe Szyslak, cold | Homepage | 05.10.08 - 4:31 pm | #
My hero!!!
steve hussein simels |
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05.10.08 - 4:36 pm | #
But I guess when you're not too bright, that's a tall order.
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist
"If you don't think too good, you shouldn't think too hard"...
[if I'm not misremembering the old line]
Jack K., the Grumpy Forester |
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05.10.08 - 4:37 pm | #
If you can't think good, think fast.
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
05.10.08 - 4:38 pm | #
analysts tell Money.com that going after oil profits could backfire on consumers.
Why?
windfall taxes could actually raise gas prices as oil companies might attempt to squeeze refinery production to recoup their lost profit.
Yeah, because they are really struggling right now.
What a sad, predictable state of affairs.
Stunt Woman |
05.10.08 - 4:40 pm | #
representative fossella's love child
I prefer the term "fuck-fetus."
Stunt Woman |
05.10.08 - 4:41 pm | #
Obama's a cultural interloper. I don't recognize him as a Real American.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 05.10.08 - 3:08 pm | #
Wow. That's possibly the single stupidest thing you've ever posted here.
Amazing....
What about me, Tobes? Just out of curiosity -- real American or not?
steve hussein simels |
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05.10.08 - 4:43 pm | #
windfall taxes could actually raise gas prices as oil companies might attempt to squeeze refinery production to recoup their lost profit.
...things must really have changed since those days looong ago when I was forced at gunpoint to take those college Econ classes. I coulda swore that this sort of thing was illegal...
Jack K., the Grumpy Forester |
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05.10.08 - 4:44 pm | #
stevie | 05.10.08 - 4:16 pm | #
does eschaton have a hall monitor now? can we lock him in the closet until the teacher comes back?
On Wednesday afternoon, the House had just voted, 412 to 0, to pass H. Res. 1113, "Celebrating the role of mothers in the United States and supporting the goals and ideals of Mother's Day,"
What a bunch of fucking retards.
Stunt Woman |
05.10.08 - 4:49 pm | #
This place is a ghost town.
annie | 05.10.08 - 4:48 pm | #
What a poetic description of the space between your ears, Butler...
steve hussein simels |
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05.10.08 - 4:51 pm | #
steve hussein simels
A middle name like that and you have to ask?
Willendorf Venus |
05.10.08 - 4:51 pm | #
On Wednesday afternoon, the House had just voted, 412 to 0, to pass H. Res. 1113, "Celebrating the role of mothers in the United States and supporting the goals and ideals of Mother's Day,"
In Philly (right at the bus stop where I get off every morning), there is this sign saying how they came up with the idea of Mother's Day as a way to combat feminism.
As if women can't be mothers AND feminism.
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist |
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05.10.08 - 4:51 pm | #
Hey Aeroport Erin, you still about?
billy b |
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05.10.08 - 4:52 pm | #
Sorry -
meant to say
both mothers AND feminists.
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist |
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05.10.08 - 4:53 pm | #
A middle name like that and you have to ask?
Willendorf Venus | 05.10.08 - 4:51 pm | #
How unkind...
steve hussein simels |
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05.10.08 - 4:55 pm | #
I get a great way to celebrating Mother's Day.
Bring the people serving over in Iraq home.
They are sons, daughters, mothers and fathers.
Stop this wasteful occupation of a country who never attacked us.
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist |
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05.10.08 - 4:55 pm | #
Obama has to know what a bunch of ignorant smacks he has panting after him. He is a lot better than you are and I am sure you make him gag. He will swallow it so he might win but even he has to hate your ignorant guts.
thenoseknows |
05.10.08 - 4:56 pm | #
Comment by thenoseknows blocked.
Fuck...............................you!
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist |
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05.10.08 - 4:57 pm | #
The Austin Dog Burner(TM) at his piece of shit blog, explains why he doesn't like Obama.
Barack Obama’s candidacy disappoints me because he’s not what I would have wanted in a possible black President.
He doesn’t hail from the historical tradition of Black America (I think even Jesse Jackson raised this point), so it is much more difficult for me to think of him as a transcendant figure when there is no narrative of his family’s triumph over slavery and Jim Crow to appreciate. His choice of church in his mid 20s was, it appears to me, a purely political thing made by a newcomer —nothing he inherited, say, through a pious black grandmother or the larger Black Christian community. He is literally an African-American, not the Black American that I know —as a lover of American History and a son of the South— I will some day rightly embrace as my choice for President.
I can’t really justify this view as a matter of fairness or logic, but it is something I have considered. Mostly, I think Obama disturbs that romantic ideal I have of the first descendant of men and women enslaved here becoming the President of the United States. And, so, in a corner of my mind that has nothing to do with assessing the policies, preparedness, or strategic judgement of the next President, I will continue to harbor a certain resentment towards Barack Obama for the presumption in this accident they call his candidacy.
Words fail me. Everything in the above is either racist, astoundingly stupid and incoherent, or both.
It's simply amazing to me that his brain generates enough energy to move his fingers to type that shit.
steve hussein simels |
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05.10.08 - 4:58 pm | #
The Austin Dog Burner(TM) at his piece of shit blog, explains why he doesn't like Obama.
If Obama makes the mouthbreathers piss in their pull ups THAT much, we have a winner on our hands, folks!
How does Toby live with that much hate inside of him?
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist |
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05.10.08 - 5:01 pm | #
Words fail me. Everything in the above is either racist, astoundingly stupid and incoherent, or both.
You shouldn't be surprised. Tubby's a green-teef cracker with the IQ of a peanut.
It's simply amazing to me that his brain generates enough energy to move his fingers to type that shit.
That's more like it.
billy b |
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05.10.08 - 5:02 pm | #
and what are people saying these days in rush pillboy land?
CALLER: I'd like to say thank you, Rush, for everything that you're doing for our party. It makes me proud. You know lately, you start feeling like being a Republican is a bad thing, it's a bad word, and you can't tell people that you're a Republican, they look at you bad, "Oh, my God, are you crazy?" but we listen to you, we turn the station on, and we're just proud to be Americans. We're just proud to keep going.
Like a snake's turd.
Stunt Woman |
05.10.08 - 5:13 pm | #
The funniest thing about the whole deal is that the only person that reads Tubby's drivel is simels.
billy b
I used to be pretty much the only person who ever commented there, too.
Then he dis-enabled comments so nobody can. And he has the balls to claim it's some kind of tech glitch he can't fix....unlike Butler, for example, who is upfront enough to simply disallow snark from the likes of me.
steve hussein simels |
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05.10.08 - 5:14 pm | #
"ou start feeling like being a Republican is a bad thing,"
It IS a bad thing, you dumb fuck.
If you had an ounce of brain matter, you would realize that.
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist |
Homepage |
05.10.08 - 5:14 pm | #
Teen use of pot can lead to dependency, mental illness
WASHINGTON (AP) - Depression, teens and marijuana are a dangerous mix that can lead to dependency, mental illness or suicidal thoughts, according to a White House report being released Friday.
A teen who has been depressed at some point in the past year is more than twice as likely to have used marijuana as teens who have not reported being depressed - 25 percent compared with 12 percent, said the report by the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy.
"Marijuana is a more consequential substance of abuse than our culture has treated it in the last 20 years," said John Walters, director of the office. "This is not just youthful experimentation that they'll get over as we used to think in the past."
Smoking marijuana can lead to more serious problems, Walters said in an interview.
grey |
05.10.08 - 5:16 pm | #
"Because heaven forbid we should think for ourselves!
We'll just continue to put money in your pocket while you laugh at us all the way to bank."
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist |
Homepage |
05.10.08 - 5:17 pm | #
What teenagers aren't depressed at some point in the calendar year?
Jay C. |
05.10.08 - 5:17 pm | #
For example, using marijuana increases the risk of developing mental disorders by 40 percent, the report said. And teens who smoke pot at least once a month over a yearlong period are three times more likely to have suicidal thoughts than nonusers, it said.
grey |
05.10.08 - 5:17 pm | #
Smoking marijuana can lead to more serious problems, Walters said in an interview.
He needs to light up a Bob Marley sized joint and shut the fuck up.
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist |
Homepage |
05.10.08 - 5:18 pm | #
Teen use of pot can lead to dependency, mental illness
Or does despondency lead to use of pot. Correlation is not causation.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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05.10.08 - 5:18 pm | #
Until Tiger Woods came along, it was thought that Negro golfers couldn't make it in the pro ranks because their balls were white.
Woods disproved that theory (at least, for the time being).
Lime Rickey |
05.10.08 - 5:19 pm | #
using marijuana increases the risk of developing mental disorders by 40 percent
And reading jack's posts increases the risk of being bored to death by 90%.
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist |
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05.10.08 - 5:19 pm | #
Being a media maven can lead to whoring around with married men.
Thanks for the inout Barbara now go get into a tussle with Starr Jones.
Then he dis-enabled comments so nobody can. And he has the balls to claim it's some kind of tech glitch he can't fix....
heh.
Typical republic woo-woo. Ain't man enough to stand up to the pressure.
billy b |
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05.10.08 - 5:20 pm | #
he dis-enabled comments so nobody can. And he has the balls to claim it's some kind of tech glitch he can't fix....unlike Butler, for example, who is upfront enough to simply disallow snark from the likes of me.
steve hussein simels
They don't want anyone to talk back to them.
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist |
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05.10.08 - 5:20 pm | #
For example, using marijuana increases the risk of developing mental disorders characterized by gender confusion and parroting mindless bullshit on blogs by 40 percent, the report said.
jack'sass |
05.10.08 - 5:21 pm | #
Teen use of pot can lead to dependency, mental illness
Kid, remember. Pot's evil. Take some anti-depressants. Of course, they are meant for adults, and we haven't figured out what dose is right for developing minds, but hey...trust us. Oh, that'll be $80 a bottle, but I can let you have these trial samples. Just get them through your doctor.
Anon |
05.10.08 - 5:21 pm | #
BTW, Harry Reid is just starting his online chat over at FDL.
In case you had any questions for him...
You know how in the Wizard of Oz Auntie Em starts to tell Ms. Gulch how she's always wanted to tell her what she thinks of her but now, now, well, now, being a xian woman she can't? That's why I have to stay away from FDL right now.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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05.10.08 - 5:21 pm | #
Depression, teens and marijuana are a dangerous mix that can lead to dependency, mental illness or suicidal thoughts, according to a White House report being released Friday.
A White House report.
All that needs to be said.
billy b |
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05.10.08 - 5:21 pm | #
I mistook John Walters for Barbara. I guess I shouldn't blog while baked.
For the first time, Barack Obama has taken the lead in superdelegate endorsements. http://www.yahoo.com/s/877869
Richard |
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05.10.08 - 5:22 pm | #
using marijuana increases the risk of developing mental disorders by 40 percent
But if you drink Budweiser you'll be forever surrounded by drop-dead gorgeous women.
Itchy Brother |
05.10.08 - 5:22 pm | #
Wow, more bullshit and lies than the justifications for the iraq war.
moana |
05.10.08 - 5:22 pm | #
according to a White House report being released Friday.
Any "White House report" should be rejected out of hand.
Lime Rickey |
05.10.08 - 5:22 pm | #
Teen use of pot can lead to dependency, mental illness
Stick with Oxycontin.
And maybe YOU'LL grow up to be a famous hate radio fuckward fascist like Rush Limpballs.
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist |
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05.10.08 - 5:22 pm | #
Depression, teens and marijuana
depression, teens and automobiles are a dangerous mix that can lead to death, dismemberment, and death, according to a white house report that won't be released friday
Capitalism causes weed, too. Folks don't grow it to give away like they used to in the sixties.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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05.10.08 - 5:24 pm | #
A teen who has been depressed at some point in the past year is more than twice as likely to have used marijuana as teens who have not reported being depressed - 25 percent compared with 12 percent, said the report by the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy.
There's nothing wrong with feeling depressed or having suicidal thoughts or wanting to get high.
but now, now, well, now, being a xian woman she can't? That's why I have to stay away from FDL right now.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 05.10.08 - 5:21 pm | #
Oh boy, I would have paid money to see that...
steve hussein simels |
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05.10.08 - 5:24 pm | #
If those teenagers will just chew their food more frequently and refrain from littering, I'm sure things will brighten up.
Jay C. |
05.10.08 - 5:25 pm | #
unlike Butler, for example, who is upfront enough to simply disallow snark from the likes of me.
Pretty funny how he can spend so much time shitting in other people's blogs but he can't take it himself.
He's a brittle one.
Richard |
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05.10.08 - 5:26 pm | #
i look forward to $5/gal gas just to see the suv junkies take the bus to work.
lewis_stoole |
05.10.08 - 6:39 pm | #
SUVs aren't just a toy - they endanger others on the road. I can't count the number of times I've been kept from merging into traffic because of an SUV also waiting and blocking my view. But parking lots are the worst. I can't see if anyone's coming as I back out. I am certain I'm going to have an accident one of these days no matter how slowly I try to leave my space. I have already come close several times.
People who drive SUVs are selfish jerks who don't give a damn about anyone else. "Oh but I have to carpool the kids to soccer practice!" Fine - get a station wagon that can seat a whole bunch of kids without causing accidents because of blocked lines of sight.
Yeah you have the right to waste money on a showpiece vehicle and the gas to fill it. But I have rights too, and mine should take higher priority: the right to safe driving.
Lisa |
05.10.08 - 6:56 pm | #
Just echoing the horrors of the last recession? Last time THE Dallas Morning News wrote about how man, and their families would go to the food bank - then they would not even make it back to their car, but instead, they sit on the curb and eat food, they were starving?
It's happening all over again, the LAST PERSON TO LEAVE TEXAS, PLEASE TURN OUT THE LIGHTS. Oh my GOD, it's happening again.
It's coming around again. Damn oil companies. Oh my GOD.
me-again |
05.10.08 - 9:50 pm | #
On SUVs. We are old, handicapped, live in Maine, and have one to drive in the winter, because we can't shovel our driveway and can't get out of our driveway with anything else. As soon as winter is over, we put the SUV away and drive a small car. How many of you who blasted SUV owners (a) live in a place where it is common to have three feet of snow at least four months of the year, and (b) can't shovel a long driveway? For those of you who think we are devils for having an SUV, please submit suggestions for viable alternatives. We would welcome them, as we recognize that our SUV is dreadful, but we just haven't been able to find one yet. Thanks.
Malcolm |
05.10.08 - 10:06 pm | #
Oh, I'm really going to have to disagree with you on this one. The fleet of gas guzzlers in this nation is using up a lot of fuel. That drives up prices but also reduces energy choices faster. There's only so much oil and the faster they slurp it up, the faster we have shortages.
So it's not just a personal choice.
AlphaLiberal |
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05.10.08 - 10:38 pm | #
Hear hear, Atrios! I think people's anti-SUV emotions are pretty stupid myself. I have a family of four with five on the way, and I just bought a pre-owned Dodge Durango in January. It was by far the least expensive vehicle that could sit eight (in case we go on outings with people, we can all ... carpool! Beats taking two+ cars, right?)
Before that I drove a two-door Honda Civic. I take the PATCO to work, so we're only driving on the rare night and weekends. We get gas about once a month, and we only own one car. So it's pretty gross to me that someone could see my car and be like, "Augh, an SUV!" Have a family of five... then you can tell me what kind of car to get!
Geof |
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