I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

Gravataraha


GravatarI don't need him either.


GravatarEither of them


GravatarMan Mauled to Death by 4 Ving Rhames Dogs

LOS ANGELES (AP) - Two dogs belonging to actor Ving Rhames apparently mauled a man to death at the star's home Friday, authorities said.

The 40-year-old victim, who has not been identified, had lived on the property and worked as a caretaker at the home for about two years, police said. He was among those responsible for caring for the dogs, said Los Angeles police Officer Sandra Gonzalez. Paramedics pronounced him dead at the scene.

Three bull mastiffs and an English bulldog were seized by animal services, police said.

"Two of those dogs appeared to be responsible for the tragic death," said Officer Jason Lee, adding that several dogs remain at the property.


GravatarDamn you spinoza, damn you to hell.

(where is your gavartar, I almost missed you?)


Gravatarand do't forget to check this FANTASTIC cuddly picture!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mni...lem/1003629442/

Duncan loves his stuffed animals


GravatarOh, fuck me.


GravatarRecession peers over the horizon


Gravatardon't worry, be happy...


GravatarOh, and about that summer recess the Iraqi Parliament is taking: BRAVO!


Gravatar"Why Americans Should Feel Happy"
--Friday, Jul. 06, 2007 By WILLIAM KRISTOL

Bwah. Because Bush will be out of office in a year and a half? Too long for me.


GravatarDeadthreaded:

blerb,


It sounds as if you know more about this than I do, and I'm not trying to be flip, but I could buy any of those substances this afternoon without driving ten miles. And if I were addicted, it wouldn't matter whether or not they were costly. Making them costly would only ensure that I'd skimp on my kids' food or on my rent or that I'd whore myself to get them. If keeping them costly were the answer, it would make more sense to sell them at CVS and tax the shit out of them so that we could use the excess $$ to build bridges instead of having the excess $$ go, as it does now, to buy hummers for dealers. But, of course, since the substances, themselves, can be produced cheaply, even that wouldn't stop people from buying them on the black market and getting addicted. Which, again, is why I say that we need to teach people, from the time that they are babies, how to handle mind-altering substances and experiences. But I'm a crazy old crone.


GravatarI come not to praise YearlyKos, but to bury it.


Gravatar Man Mauled to Death by 4 Ving Rhames Dogs

That's what Tony Rocky Horror gets for giving a foot massage to Mia.


GravatarThat’s Capitalism!


GravatarHey kristol, I hear Ving's looking far a new dog walker.


Gravatar and do't forget to check this FANTASTIC cuddly picture!

Don't let Stephen Colbert see those pictures.


GravatarElectric Cat, MFers!!!


GravatarJay Carney at his YKOS panel sorta kinda strongly hinted that he wasn't thrilled to share a professional home with Bill Kristol


GravatarFrom the previous thread:

Uncle Blodge: Not sure that's what this is all about - but let me tell you black men react very strongly to white men dating black women. they really don't like it.

As a rule, I never know why the Times covers what it does. Black women also react very stongly to white women dating black men. They really don't like it.

Terry C: I don't understand what ANY woman would see in Kevin Federline.

And yet he's knocked up Shar and Britney twice each. I don't get it either.

JeffCO : Try removing all vestiges of self-esteem and self-respect and look again.

There's got to be some utter stupidity in the mix.


GravatarI'd feel happy if Bill Kristol keeled over dead in the next 20 minutes.


GravatarWhich, again, is why I say that we need to teach people, from the time that they are babies, how to handle mind-altering substances and experiences. But I'm a crazy old crone.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


Back in my days of legal practice, one of my clients was a former narc (his troubles were debt then, not criminal law). He told me he'd learned that people will get high on Sterno if that's all they have available. He meant, you can't stop it, and futile to keep trying.


Gravatar" from the time that they are babies, how to handle mind-altering substances and"

there isn't a single addict i know that set out to become one. they can't be taught how to 'handle' substances, because if they could they wouldn't have become addicts in the first place.


Gravatar"The Price is WRONG, Drew!"



[ BAM!!! ]


Gravatarfrom below

Yep, I am chuffed. Maybe someday I will be a recognized author yet.
DWD

I really am pleased. I have a copy of Challenge in a plastic bag, with the spine uncracked. I figure when you finally get famous it will be worth quite a bit!
ql-was in NY | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 4:45 pm | #


GravatarI'd feel happy if Bill Kristol keeled over dead in the next 20 minutes.
Apprentice to Darth Holden | 08.04.07 - 4:45 pm | #

Nah, I say we airlift him to Anbar.


GravatarOh, fuck me.
Zap Rowsdower


Thanks, but I'm straight.


GravatarKristol gets lost in Chicago...and enter a certain ballroom with a thousand kossacks turning their head to look at him...what happens next?


GravatarMan Mauled to Death by 4 Ving Rhames Dogs
lou



Er, jack?

Didn't you post this shit the other day?


GravatarQL: you are mentionned in the book, sweety!


GravatarHeh. If you're the idiot co-counsel on the West Coast who spent all week attempting to fuck with me, you just found out why that's a bad idea. Heh. It's almost 5:00. Think I'll celebrate.


GravatarFor most of the rest of the country, the war in Iraq has been like waking up every day and finding a warm pile of shit on the breakfast plate; Kristol, meanwhile, believes he's in Disneyland and that he's gobbling a pancake in the shape of Mickey Mouse.

I actually have a waffle iron that makes Mickey Mouse shaped waffles. Eyes, mouth, nose, the whole 9 yards.

I think I'll leave it stuck in the back of the cabinet....


Gravatar"As a rule, I never know why the Times covers what it does. Black women also react very stongly to white women dating black men. They really don't like it."

wasn't saying they do.


Gravatar"Why Americans Should Feel Happy"
--Friday, Jul. 06, 2007 By WILLIAM KRISTOL



Why Bill Kristol Needs A Kick In The Crotch With Steel Toed Boots.


Gravataras i said below, some addicts can function at a job.

when they lose this job then then turn to the mugging and assaults to get cash for their next fix

decriminalization of them would cut crime in half

but what do I know, I just think the current policy on drugs has been a complete and utter failure, drugs are still about and people take them


GravatarAtrios, did you go to one of the "break out" rooms?


GravatarThe trolls know who killfiles them. The blue # bar turns to white.


GravatarYou know what's really hilarious? The official FBI most wanted poster for Osama doesn't even mention 9/11

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/ terror...terbinladen.htm


GravatarShorter Kristol:

I know better than everybody else and I think things are just peachey! Tra La! Wheee! Hee! Peachey! Pretty! I feel pretty!


GravatarQL: you are mentionned in the book, sweety!
plum p,


yup, I'm a star!

Frankly, I'm still haunted how the evil ones turned him into an alcoholic. That's just not right.


Gravatarthere isn't a single addict i know that set out to become one. they can't be taught how to 'handle' substances, because if they could they wouldn't have become addicts in the first place.
jdw | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 4:46 pm | #
--
Wrong. My cousin Bruce was a severe heroin addict for many years. He has been clean now for 20 years.


Gravatarthere isn't a single addict i know that set out to become one. they can't be taught how to 'handle' substances, because if they could they wouldn't have become addicts in the first place.
jdw


yeah, I think it's back to society handling them. And I don't mean prison, which should still be reserved for people who legitimately scare us, not just for people we don't like (or are told to be afraid of, like drug addicts).


GravatarPlum P,

This is the Amazon Link for Silent Screams. It has reviews from several Atriots to read (And I continually thank them for their gracious words)

This was my first book for my publisher and the one that is being reprinted in much larger quantities. It is a Holocaust Survivor's story and is a wonderfully engrossing read. . . .

http://www.amazon.com/Silent-Scr...86260059&sr=8- 1


GravatarKristol gets lost in Chicago...and enter a certain ballroom with a thousand kossacks turning their head to look at him...what happens next?

The kossacks politely dust him off, pay him for showing up, and send him on his way?

What do I win?


GravatarThat’s Capitalism!


Gravatar"My cousin Bruce was a severe heroin addict for many years. He has been clean now for 20 years."

I think he means being able to handle using in limited doses.

One cigarette and I am back to 3 packs a day in short order.


GravatarIf you killfile, your '#' bar will turn to white on the next refresh.


Gravatar"...you just found out why that's a bad idea. Heh. It's almost 5:00. Think I'll celebrate."
--Hecate,

Good for you! I'd buy the drinks if I was nearby. Go for it.


GravatarWilliam Kristol has a date with this guy


GravatarI actually have a waffle iron that makes Mickey Mouse shaped waffles. Eyes, mouth, nose, the whole 9 yards.
Rmj


We gave that waffle iron to my wife's brother.

They had two kids.

His wife still hasn't forgiven us.


GravatarMatt Iglatheuth thould thet up a perthonal boycott of Focth Newth, Time Magathine and Bill Kristhol...


GravatarFrankly, I'm still haunted how the evil ones turned him into an alcoholic. That's just not right.
ql-was in NY

wot? I'm only on chapter 10

page 33: "Quilt Lady in NY was one of his personal favorites: amazing mind with a talent for stating her perspective clearly".


GravatarOne cigarette and I am back to 3 packs a day in short order.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher | 08.04.07 - 4:51 pm | #
--

Me too.

/drinks beer.


GravatarKenosha kid.


Gravatar1/30/05 could be a key moment--perhaps the key moment so far--in vindicating the Bush Doctrine as the right response to 9/11.
[bill kristol]


perpetuating the big lie.

the invasion of iraq was NOT a response to 9/11.

9/11 was the opportunity to invade iraq.


GravatarUS Economic Vulnerability


GravatarIt seems to me the rethugs are deliberately not allowing the FISA bill to come up. They keep on amending the energy bill and then every amendment needs to be voted on. I think they're up to 21 amendments now.


GravatarIf Bush demands that congress make him King for life, do you think the Dems would rub their chins very scholarly and say "we will think about it."

And then when Bush says if you don’t I will keep you in Washington until you do they would cave?


Gravatar"The trolls know who killfiles them. The blue # bar turns to white."

Really?

Good! I want fy and lou pud yanker, Big Fitz with his tiny penis, jack, Toby, Allan, and all the rest of them to know just who is killing them, and to remind them just who introduced the killfile to Eschaton!

And it's only going to GET WORSE FOR THEM!

Particularly the fy, that feculent little shitmonkey. Oh, yes. He is NOT going to enjoy what's coming. Not at all.

Bwahahahahahahahahahaha!


GravatarOh fuck!

Just going through my LPs, I found an album by Sen. Robert Byrd!

Some funky mountain music.


Gravatar Kenosha kid.

Yes?


GravatarDWD: that book is a novel or biography?


GravatarIf Bush told the Dems. to shoot their own children, they would.


GravatarThe Greek Orthodox Church in Cyprus has announced plans to invest $234m (Ł115m) in solar energy.

Archbishop Chrysostomos II said the church would build a factory that would make photo-voltaic panels to capture the sun's energy.

He said proceeds from the investment would be used to provide financial help to clergy and fund other social work.

The government has warned of power cuts in 2008 if the island does not secure additional electricity supplies.

The move follows criticism of the state-run Cyprus electricity authority's apparent failure to cope with increased demand during the recent heatwave which triggered power cuts on the island.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europ...ope/ 6931310.stm


GravatarAnd then when Bush says if you don’t I will keep you in Washington until you do they would cave?

Sadly, yes.

Harry Reid would shake his antichoice head about it and several of them would look shamefaced, but they would then do whatever the boyking told them to do. The sad fact is that his dick, tiny as it is, is, in fact, larger than theirs. Who knew? The country hates him and elected them to oppose him, but they are terrified of him.

I hate them.


GravatarTerry C: I don't understand what ANY woman would see in Kevin Federline.

And yet he's knocked up Shar and Britney twice each. I don't get it either.

JeffCO : Try removing all vestiges of self-esteem and self-respect and look again.

There's got to be some utter stupidity in the mix.
Meander, embittered liberal


I don't know about Shar, but Britney ain't rocket scientist material.

"I just think (snapping her gum)that we should trust in our president, and be faithful in everything we do"

(a) You don't think, bitch; and
(b) He ain't my president.


GravatarTucker's flinging his monkey turds around his cage again...

Heh.


GravatarAnother picture of Duncan Black.


GravatarJust going through my LPs, I found an album by Sen. Robert Byrd!

Some funky mountain music.
Zap Rowsdower


How did you end up with that?

He's actually a very good fiddle player, and appeared several times on "Hee Haw."


GravatarI plan on writing a blog post basically calling Jay Carney a dick.


Gravatarand let's not forget, a lot of drugs addicts are using because they are self-treating their mental illness. If they were diagnosed correctly, they could treat their pain in a better way.


Gravatar"Comment by Lubyanka blocked. [unkill]​[show comment]"

I NEVER get tired of seeing that!

Always brings a smile to my face.


GravatarAnother picture of Duncan Black.
The Kenosha Kid

good one !


Gravatarwot? I'm only on chapter 10

Phew, glad I didn't give it away.


GravatarAnd then when Bush says if you don’t I will keep you in Washington until you do they would cave?
sally


Are you kidding?

Bush doesn't even stay in Washington!


Gravatar"I'm only on chapter 10"

wot book is this of which you speak?


GravatarIt sounds as if ... But I'm a crazy old crone.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


You make some perfectly valid points, and I'm not going to pretend this is in any way a cut-and-dried issue.

Just to be clear, I am totally in favor of decriminalizing simple posession and even free distribution of any drug. If somebody wants to go to the trouble to manufacture or grow a drug for themselves, then I do not believe the legal system ought to get involved. If they want to give that drug away to their friends, I guess I can live with that too, so long as proper respect is given to the age of consent.

It's just the idea of corporations and cartels profiting from the sale of highly addictive substances like cocaine, Heroin, and meth, whether or not they are taxed, that makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up. I feel exactly the same way about tobbacco companies.

And things like like pot, mushrooms, LSD, MDMA, etc., which are essentially innocuous by comparison, I have no problem with dispensing according to the model you suggest. That is concordant, IMO, with a reasonable policy of harm reduction.


Gravatar"I NEVER get tired of seeing that!"

trust me we'll let you know if it says anything worth reading.


GravatarHow did you end up with that?

He's actually a very good fiddle player, and appeared several times on "Hee Haw."


I think I found at a thrift store.

But, yeah, the front of the LP is him with his fiddle.

Fun stuff.


GravatarSaturday Goddess Blogging. Because women need the Goddess.


Gravatarwot book is this of which you speak?
Uncle Blodge

DWD's last novel

http://www.acornpublishing.com/c.../ challenge.html


GravatarI've nearly finished reading The Uncrowned Kings of England: The Black Legend of the Dudleys by Derek Wilson, most interesting read, digging through the myths which surrounded the family, who due to being loyal to a fault to the reigning monarch usually ended up getting most of the brunt of loathing and jealously, since the monarch couldn't be questioned directly, those close to him or her become the perfect scapegoat.


GravatarCeres is one of my favorite goddess too!


Gravatar"He's actually a very good fiddle player, and appeared several times on "Hee Haw.""

Stan Musial used to play harmonica on Hee haw. it's the place to go when you need to shout yahooo.


GravatarJust to be clear, I am totally in favor of decriminalizing simple posession and even free distribution of any drug.

Better we have a second amendment guaranteeing weapons than guaranteeing drug use. I mean, guns are much much safer.


GravatarI mean, guns are much much safer.
spinoza

of course!


GravatarChiming in on the drug discussion from below:
Living with three addicts I can tell you that drug use is not benign. It destroys relationships and many other positives of life as the stuff becomes all controlling and more important than anything else. It's ugly. The problem is ya don't know until you go there if you can take it or leave it. All that said, the war on drugs is stupid and counterproductive. Everyone who is addicted and comes to the place where they want to leave their monster behind should have access to excellent rehab. As it stands. only the rich or folks with excellent insurance can afford it.


Gravatarjust because


Gravatarblerb,

I agree with you. It doesn't make me happy to think of big pharma getting rich off of selling pot to people. A whole lot of drug use in this society, and I include in this category my own use of vodka, is based on the need of people to escape from the reality of living in a patriarchial, capatalistic, society that is destroying the Earth. Less of that would equal less need for the drug.


GravatarPlum P,

Every word is the truth so it is a limited biography. Mitchell (a real man who lives in Toledo, Ohio) is 74 now. When he was a young boy his American father worked for the OAS and was stationed in Poland near the Ukraine border. This book is the story of what happened to Mitch and his family from 1939- 1945. (He was taken from his family numerous times. Left for dead three different times. Finally taken to the Nazi Experimental Hospital for Children at Treblinka - and survived all of this)

He came to the United States with his father after the war. He grew up in New Jersey. When he graduated from high school he was drafted into the army and served with extreme distinction as a medic in Korea. (A Bronze Star, Two Silver Stars with Oak Leave Clusters, Several Purple Hearts, Two Distinguished Service Crosses, and was nominated for the Congressional Medal of Honor for Bravery.)

He worked as an auto worker for Jeep in Toledo until he retired. His wife ran off with a fundie Preacher taking all of their savings and he lives in near poverty.

He is a pleasant man who loves to run in marathons and smiles easily. Everyone would love him if they had the chance to meet him. I understand that Oprah is considering having him on her show though I have not heard anything about this for several months. I guess these things take time but the publisher says she has the book.


GravatarI need to get ready for a wedding reception...passed on going to the actual wedding.

Later!!



GravatarMoon:

The Earl of Leicester's family?


Gravatar"Because women need the Goddess."

If men could accept the goddess more easily I think the world might be a better place.


GravatarMoon:

The Earl of Leicester's family?
Terry C - Wingnuts R WATBs | 08.04.07 - 5:04 pm | #


the very same


GravatarThe US's "war on drugs" has been an
unmitigated disaster for the country. It's amazing, after the bitter experience with Prohibition, that we'd once again criminalize personal choices about "substances."


GravatarOnly drugs that don't directly benefit large corporations are illegal.

I mean, they advertise beer on TV, but pot is illegal. Some logic there.


Gravatarthe Dudley family motto was Droit et Loyal


GravatarThe Earl of Leicester's family?
Terry C - Wingnuts R WATBs | 08.04.07 - 5:04 pm | #

the very same
Moonbootica, Graduated


Sounds like a very interesting book.


Gravatar"Because women need the Goddess."

If men could accept the goddess more easily I think the world might be a better place.

Uncle Blodge,

You shame me. Of course, men need the Goddess, as well.


GravatarSounds like a very interesting book.
Terry C - Wingnuts R WATBs | 08.04.07 - 5:07 pm | #


i own another of the author's books, All the Kings Women about the mistresses of Charles II


GravatarSpeaking of drugs, I gotta go and score some Diet Coke.

Back later.

Dopeslap some trolls in my absence.


Gravatardue to having lots of free time i've been going to my local library heh

when I'm not busy with household chores


Gravatar"Only drugs that don't directly benefit large corporations are illegal."

there was a rumor when I was a teen and smoking dope that Phillip morris had copyrighted Acapulco gold for its prepackaged joints when marijuana became legal - as we were all sure was about to happen.

Bet if drugs were made legal some corporation would find a way to profit.


GravatarI guess these things take time but the publisher says she has the book.
DWD

DWD making the Oprah bookclub? That would be absolutly amazing. I'm also afraid to read that book now. I cry easy with these types of stories, almost crying with you describing the book! These are stories that moves me so much, i tend to not let go. which is not always good for my mental health.


Gravatar"All the King's Women" about the mistresses of Charles II
Moonbootica, Graduated

One person from history I would love to meet.


GravatarI'd like to kick him right in his Kristol balls


Gravatar"Comment by Lubyanka blocked. [unkill]​[show comment]"

A: Did you just say something, stupid?

B: Did you just say something stupid?

Pick one.


GravatarBush's poodles
Dianne Feinstein (California);
Barbara Mikulski (Maryland);
Daniel Inouye (Hawai‘i);
Amy Klobuchar (Minnesota);
Claire McCaskill (Missouri);
Bob Casey (Pennsylvania);
Jim Webb (Virginia).
Evan Bayh (Indiana);
Tom Carper (Delaware);
Blanche Lincoln (Arkansas);
Mary Landrieu (Louisiana);
Bill Nelson (Florida);
Ben Nelson (Nebraska);
Mark Pryor (Arkansas);
Ken Salazar (Colorado);
Kent Conrad (North Dakota


Gravatar.It doesn't make me happy to think of big pharma getting rich off of selling pot to people.

Actually I don't care so much what happens with pot, even though I don't really like the idea of Phillip Morris distributing it. Pot is just not addictive in the sense I'm talking about. Smoking it is mostly a lifestyle decision. For some people it can be a compulsive behavior with some detrimental effects, but I have honestly never seen anybody's life seriously messed up by pot except in a legal sense. I got high just about every day for like 15 years, and then just stopped without ill effect when I decided I didn't like what it was doing to me anymore. Quitting tobbacco was much harder.


Gravatar"You shame me."

?!?!?!?! I am sorry about that!

shame was the furthest thing from my mind!!! I was actually more pointing out that men have a gendered view of the deity, and it might be nice if we didn't.


GravatarThe Uninaugurated Presidents of the United States: From Tilden to Gore


GravatarI'm also afraid to read that book now. I cry easy with these types of stories, almost crying with you describing the book! These are stories that moves me so much, i tend to not let go. which is not always good for my mental health.

This is why, even though I live in DC, I have never been to the Holocaust Museum. I've heard about it from friends and I think that I'd need 4 or 5 years to recover. It's not that I'm in denial, it's just that I'm realistic about how porous my boundaries (sun in Pisces) are.


GravatarWebb voted for that FISA shit?


Gravatarblerb | 08.04.07 - 5:00 pm | #

sorry - while i respect your position, i have to disagree.

so i make my own. if i don't know how, i ask a buddy. he gives me some, maybe asks me to pitch in for the ingredients - the overhead - his time. or he doesn't have any, so he hooks me up ... soon someone has his own little lab. we're right back where we started.

corporations make it - regulated by the fda, advertising restricted the way alcohol is, taxed, and they have fiscal responsibility for the after affects. they can be sued. pharmacies can track usage, maybe doctors can see those records.

it's not a good thing. but it's a less bad thing than the current war on drugs. i suppose there will still be black market ways around regs, but then we'll really only be going after the criminals.

if possession and use is not a crime, there has to be a legitimate method of supply.


GravatarBet if drugs were made legal some corporation would find a way to profit.
Uncle Blodge

and govts would make tons of taxes money to pay for free national healtcare. Some european countries are already there.


Gravatar"Webb voted for that FISA shit?"

Yep! Once a rethug, always a rethug.


GravatarGreat book, just released:

Rites of Peace, by Adam Zamoyski

About the extended negotiations and proceedings of the Congress of Vienna, wherein the powers-that-be created post-Napoleon Europe. COV arguably the most important such event in Euro history. All the rock star diplomats are there, from Metternich to Talleyrand to Castlereigh, and they gave "party hearty" a new meaning.

Good stuff.


GravatarWebb voted for that FISA shit?
Bjorn,a poor young country boi | 08.04.07 - 5:11 pm | #


yup.


Gravatar"It's not that I'm in denial, it's just that I'm realistic about how porous my boundaries (sun in Pisces) are."

I don't know about my sun - except the three I have to go pick up in 10m - but something i read about what happened in rwanda got to me so bad that five years after reading it I cannot discuss it without breaking down.

it's why I will not watch hotel rwanda, even though I am sure it is good.


GravatarBush's poodles
Dianne Feinstein (California);


I'm thinking that if there's one Dem who really needs a challenger, it's DiFi. And, as a woman, it hurts me to say that. But, she's got to either go or get scared left.


Gravatar"This is why, even though I live in DC, I have never been to the Holocaust Museum."

I was absolutely emotionally overwhelmed by the Viet-Nam memorial.

Between the impact of all those names, and the mementos left by friends and family...

I just had to sit somewhere and weep.


GravatarPot is the ultimate DIY. Just some bright lights. Or so I hear.

I could see big pharma falling all over themselves to market "pot in a pill" tho.


Gravatar"and govts would make tons of taxes money to pay for free national healtcare. Some european countries are already there."

Oh I'll take that trade. anytime.


Gravatarmy sister was very moved when she visited Hiroshima


GravatarBush's poodles



I see MY two Senators are not on that list.


GravatarBBC radio reporting that the foot and mouth strain found in Surrey is a strain used in vaccines -- hypothesis that it there was a breakdown in procedures in a nearby vaccine lab.


GravatarDiFi's husband is profiting greatly from this war I understand. Besides that she is really so insincere she oozes in it.


GravatarBut, she's got to either go or get scared left.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


She's getting pretty old, so I don't really think she'll be around that much longer. But I am kind of afraid that she'll be replaced by Aaahnuld, so we must be careful what we wish for.


Gravatar"This is why, even though I live in DC, I have never been to the Holocaust Museum."



My daughter was there back in late 2000.

Very sobering, she said.


GravatarI don't know about my sun

What's your birthday?


GravatarWasn't there a major hoof-and-mouth outbreak in the UK a while back, during the mad cow scare?


Gravatar"and govts would make tons of taxes money to pay for free national healtcare. Some european countries are already there."

Oh I'll take that trade. anytime.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher | 08.04.07 - 5:14 pm | #


sort of like the lottery paying for schools, though.


Gravatarunderstand that Oprah is considering having him on her show

Hey wow that would be amazing


Gravatar"Everyone who is addicted and comes to the place where they want to leave their monster behind should have access to excellent rehab. As it stands. only the rich or folks with excellent insurance can afford it."
--lovepat

This is true. I know a young woman whose third offense for DUI was to total her mother's Mercedes. She went to an excellent facility in Atlanta (300 miles from here), spent four or five months, and returned for her trial. She had a good, e.i., expensive lawyer, and is out on probation.

I think her stay in rehab was about $50,000.

She does seem to be doing good for now, so I'm thankful, but everyone should have this service if needed.


GravatarCindy should run against Feinstein.

OK, NOW I'm out to get my Diet Coke!

Later, my friends!


GravatarIt's not that I'm in denial, it's just that I'm realistic about how porous my boundaries (sun in Pisces) are.
Hecate

i'm exactly the same. My sister works at a community group that finds work for handicapped people. When she talks about those young men (mostly men) trying to take back their life after finding out they suffer from schizophrenia, it just breaks my heart. One case in particular has been haunting me for months.


GravatarI went to the Holocaust museum the week it opened.


Gravatar"sort of like the lottery paying for schools, though."

yeah. but then the schools get paid for.


GravatarDiFi has had that "brittle" air since she ascended to the mayoralty of SF after George Moscone and Harvey Milk were shot and killed. Same hairstyle, too.


GravatarI don't know about my sun - except the three I have to go pick up in 10m - but something i read about what happened in rwanda got to me so bad that five years after reading it I cannot discuss it without breaking down.

it's why I will not watch hotel rwanda, even though I am sure it is good.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher | 08.04.07 - 5:13 pm |


I've read lots and lots on genocide, usually Bosnia's.

I read We Wish To Inform That Tomorrow We Will Be Killed With Our Families and thought the hotel story would be a good movie, as a way to introduce people who might not otherwise pay attention.

I'm not going to watch the movie, though.


GravatarI see MY two Senators are not on that list

Mine either. Except, they'll pander to the banking industry when needed.


GravatarWasn't there a major hoof-and-mouth outbreak in the UK a while back, during the mad cow scare?
plantsman, areligious | 08.04.07 - 5:16 pm | #


yes, which the government handled in a very bad way, DEFRA (The Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs) was nicknamed after this by Private Eye as the "Department for the Elimination/Eradication of Farming and Rural Affairs", The former Secretary of State, Margaret Beckett, was always named Rosa Klebb after the villain of the James Bond film From Russia With Love.


GravatarI'm thinking that if there's one Dem who really needs a challenger, it's DiFi. And, as a woman, it hurts me to say that. But, she's got to either go or get scared left.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


Now, if Ms. Sheehan wants to run against HER, fine.


GravatarI see MY two Senators are not on that list

Mine either. Except, they'll pander to the banking industry when needed.
Barndog, fully Blissed


Who are your Senators, BD?

Mine are Lautenberg and Menendez.


Gravatarit's why I will not watch hotel rwanda, even though I am sure it is good.
Uncle Blodge

same here.


GravatarA therapist once told me I'm too much of an empath--perhaps I can loan some out to those in need.


Gravatarit's why I will not watch hotel rwanda, even though I am sure it is good.
Uncle Blodge

same here.
plum p, who loves Al Gore


I can't either.

Can't watch "Schindler's List" either.


GravatarPlum P and Hecate,

I understand completely. In fact, that was my feeling when I was given the source material. What is the point? I thought.

I tried, to the best of my ability, to UNDERSTATE as much as possible the dreadfulness of the situation and concentrate on the spirit of the individual that made it possible for Mitch to live.

I hope that I succeeded. (But I truly understand the trepidation you feel. I felt the same thing.)


GravatarTerry - Levin and Stabenow (Stabenow incidently has a bad case of the ass coming from your's truly when I see her next).

Kroger up the street within the next week or two. I hope the management has ear plugs handy.


GravatarThe Killing Fields. That's one film i never got over from.


GravatarBuckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins | 08.04.07 - 5:19 pm | #

what got really wiggy for me was getting to know the professor who taught me African history. he is Ethiopian and was there during the famines and political troubles. to hear him matter of factly discuss running from the city to the country and back to escape the violence was sobering.

when he saw I was the only one affected by rwanda he went off - told the class either they were not human or they did not do the readings.


GravatarNow, if Ms. Sheehan wants to run against HER, fine.
Terry C - Wingnuts R WATBs


She won't gt any further doing that than she will trying to take down Pelosi, but I guess it wouldn't piss me off for her to do it. What we need is a serious candidate to contend for her seat when she retires other than Aaahnuld, who is currently the odds-on favorite to take it, if he does not get Barbara Boxer's (ouch!!) first. Aahnuld would turn Cindy Sheehan into a grease spot.


GravatarMs. Sheehan lacks the nuts-and-bolts competence of Dianne Feinstein. But of course, if Melanie Morgan were the alternative, I'd vote for Cindy in a heartbeat!


GravatarI've watched Schindler's List (my dad has it on DVD) and I would have no problem with watching Hotel Rwanda

The Last King of Scotland had some pretty stomach churning moments, especially showing what Idi Admin did to his wife Kay


GravatarI just have a horrible time w/ graphic violence. Years and years later I'm unable to sleep for remembering scenes of graphic violence from movies seen w/o realizing what I was getting into. It's one of my huge weaknesses. I'm not proud of it, but I simply have v. porous borders; when I see someone else suffering, I go through PTSD myself. I wish that I were different, but I've learned that I'm not. My darling neice is a huge fan of horror flicks and I'm always having to decline to go see them w/ her.


GravatarI just have a horrible time w/ graphic violence.

i cried at finding nemo.


GravatarI think that a real good dose of unexpurgated WWII history would do wonders to stem the current tendency for all this wankerific conflation of the current geopolitical situation with what happened then.


Gravatar*Amin

his son was recently convicted of stabbing a Somali boy in London


GravatarYou know, I've to the Holocaust Museum, and I've been to concentration camps, and the latter was a much more powerful experience.

So I would advise you not to go unless you think can handle it. But if you can it's uniquely educational.


Gravatar"Can't watch "Schindler's List" either."

I am told I should but - I fear it.


GravatarRemember the highly stylized cinematic shooting deaths of Bonnie and Clyde ? Even though they were balletic graphic violence, I couldn't take it!


Gravatarpowerful owls.


GravatarBuckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins | 08.04.07 - 5:19 pm | #

what got really wiggy for me was getting to know the professor who taught me African history. he is Ethiopian and was there during the famines and political troubles. to hear him matter of factly discuss running from the city to the country and back to escape the violence was sobering.

when he saw I was the only one affected by rwanda he went off - told the class either they were not human or they did not do the readings.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher | 08.04.07 - 5:22 pm |


We've got quite a few medical residents from Africa.

It's very sad when they tell me I'm really the first American they've met who knows much about the continent (particularly the genocides/mass murders). And I really don't know much.

I think that I'm something of an empath, that's why it affects me, but I still keep reading. I need to try and understand as much as possible.


GravatarFor a really tough time, try the Hiroshima A-Bomb Memorial.

That will fuck you up. Guaranteed.


Gravatargraphic violence, I can watch it to a certain extent

but I stop at those torture porn movies.


GravatarThe horrors this human species can create are often intolerable for my brain . Sometimes, i really wished to be like those around me who don't seem to care much about these things. But my personnal ethics tell me i HAVE to be aware. I was 8 or 9 when i saw Roots on tv. That miniseries was the start of my social conscience. And i can't get rid of it!


GravatarFor a really tough time, try the Hiroshima A-Bomb Memorial.

That will fuck you up. Guaranteed.
Barndog, fully Blissed | 08.04.07 - 5:26 pm | #


my sister has been to it, and she found it pretty sobering.


GravatarFor a really tough time, try the Hiroshima A-Bomb Memorial.

Oh, Hillary? Hillary Clinton?


GravatarI feel the need to see Hot Fuzz tonight!


Gravatar"Remember the highly stylized cinematic shooting deaths of Bonnie and Clyde ? Even though they were balletic graphic violence, I couldn't take it!"

I showed spike lee's malcolm X. in the end they of course show malcolm getting shot.

One of my students ran out when the shooting started. no chance of catching her and I didn't try.

I did talk to her later - her father had been killed in a drive by shooting that she said involved automatic weapons.

I - well it was all I could do to keep functioning. especially when she apologized for leaving class.


GravatarPelosi/Sheehan : so, everyone's so cool with Pelosi's (and the House's) inaction on the war and on Bush that no one should run that can push her further to the left? They shouldn't be challenged to do what they promised us they'd do in 2006?


GravatarComcast has Kyra Sedgewick in The Closer , several recent episodes, in HD for free right now. I've watched two. Great, quirky scripts and acting!


Gravatargot to go pick up the suns. later


GravatarMeander, Pelosi only has the votes she has. Your expectations are unrealistic.


Gravatar"corey hart mp3s and a spongebob slumber bag, what more could we ask for?"-Bill Kristol to Maliki


GravatarI was 8 or 9 when i saw Roots on tv. That miniseries was the start of my social conscience. And i can't get rid of it!
plum p, who loves Al Gore


Couldn't put the book down.


Gravatar"I just have a horrible time w/ graphic violence."


I prefer things left to my imagination.


GravatarWhat Murdoch has done, along with right wing hate speech radio, is "mainstream" right wing lunatics.
Of course, Murdoch has also "mainstreamed" soft core pornagraphy (http://www.page3.com/), but that's a whole different "family values" discussion altogether.


GravatarYou know, I've to the Holocaust Museum, and I've been to concentration camps, and the latter was a much more powerful experience.

Dachau camp outside Munich has an exhibit on the medical experiments caried out on prisoners. Still makes me sick to remember it, 12 years later.


GravatarZod


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