I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
patchouli is me
What luck
It's always that way.
Fucking people.
home run
And it shall be remembered that this was a bad time. So now our kids can listen to something other than their grandparent's stories for a change.
Old men sending young men to die.
It's always been that way.
The entire neocon cabal that dreamed up the iraq war should serve a lifetime in hell for every man, woman, and child that died so bushie could be a war preznit.
Ohio State 14, Michigan 3.
Whu does it say HULK SMASH at the top of the comment window? It scares me.
Is there some sort of sporting events being contested today?
Hey, at least we haven't surrendered.
Please Hulk, smash neocons if you gotta smash something!
to be fair, it's not easy destroying the oldest civilization on earth.
"approx. 1786 US troops have died because a bunch of vain old men in Washington confuse courage with cowardice and think their personal reputations are more important than those they send off to die for them."
Most of which haven't served.
Nor have their kids.
Geez, no shit, gary!
Badgers up 17 to 13
It's so gratifying when I post something at Pax and Atrios ignores it.
I wanted to meet interesting and stimulating people of an ancient culture...and kill them.
Whu can't I tupe a sing;e fuvking commeny withouy makinh a t6po?
The Badgers have to win. They forgot to bring the axe.
It's so gratifying when I post something at Pax and Atrios ignores it.
And yet still you learn nothing.
what to make of a real democracy that loves hugo chavez?
Shorter Atrios:
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!
Everybody is stupids!
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!
no shit
And yet still you learn nothing.
I've learned to mind my surroundings, Ras.
Huff Post published an attack on Kucinich yesterday, written by a woman who is challenging him in the Dem primary. The premise of her attack depends on interpreting "pre-condition" backwards.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
ro...he_b_73014.html
The premise of her attack depends on interpreting "pre-condition" backwards.
Ex post facto conditions?
but atrios doesn't like to be fucked by anyone except mrs. wallace... oh wait i mean mrs. atrios.
Boston police are launching a program that will call upon parents in high-crime neighborhoods to allow detectives into their homes, without a warrant, to search for guns in their children's bedrooms.
more stories like this
The program, which is already raising questions about civil liberties, is based on the premise that parents are so fearful of gun violence and the possibility that their own teenagers will be caught up in it that they will turn to police for help, even in their own households.
That acid-burnout case should have realized that his working days were through, and packed it in, the instant after Joltin' Jean Schmidt raised her leg on the House floor and casually pissed all over him.
"
The end of the US occupation and the closing of military bases are necessary preconditions for such a conference. When the US creates a shift of policy and announces it will focus on the concerns of the people of Iraq, it will provide a powerful incentive for nations to participate.
It is well known that while some nations may see the instability in Iraq as an opportunity, there is also an even-present danger that the civil war in Iraq threatens the stability of nations throughout the region. The impending end of the occupation will provide a breakthrough for the cooperation between the US and the UN and the UN and countries of the region. The regional conference must include Iran, Syria, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Jordan."
Seems like I understand DK's plan. I should figure out what my HuffPo login info is--I haven't posted there in ages.
There's definitely something weird and cultish in the sycophantish cathexis onto Hillary of the many nerds, geeks and vengeful viragos who run her campaign -- sometimes to her detriment, as with the recent ham-handed playing of the clichéd gender card. I suspect the latter dumb move, which has backfired badly, came from Ann Lewis (Barney Frank's sister), a fanatical Hillary true believer who has been spouting beatific feminist bromides about her for the past 15 years. Hillary seems to have acolytes rather than friends -- hardly a reassuring trait for a potential president whose paranoia has already been called Nixonian. Isolated monarchs never hear the bad news until the people riot and the lynch mob is at the door.
You're on fire tonight, A-man.
Whu does it say HULK SMASH at the top of the comment window? It scares me.
merle
Probably a snark at Haloscan and its wilful ways.
Vengeful Viragos.
We need more of those.
another 'heck of a job bushie'
The Ministry of Culture has begun insisting that tourists visiting the country’s monuments, including the Taj Mahal, pay the entrance fees in rupees rather than in dollars. Entrance to many sites for foreign tourists is priced in dollars and then converted to rupees, but the ministry has been losing tourism revenue as the dollar slid more than 12 percent this year against the rupee. The government had fixed a $5 entrance fee for World Heritage sites like the Taj Mahal and Humayun’s Tomb and $2 for other monuments at a time when the dollar was worth about 50 rupees. It is now worth around 39 rupees. The new rate for Heritage sites is 250 rupees, meaning a foreign tourist will pay the equivalent of about $6.50.
Vengeful Viragos.
We need more of those.
rootless-e
Sounds like a band. "Hillary and the Vengeful Viragos."
a potential president whose paranoia has already been called Nixonian.
By whom?
Whu does it say HULK SMASH at the top of the comment window? It scares me.
merle
Probably a snark at Haloscan and its wilful ways.
TheaLogie | 11.17.07 - 5:56 pm | #
Tell me about it.
a potential president whose paranoia has already been called Nixonian.
By whom?
dmark, still at work
Well, her detractors, clearly, but it might be nice to name names rather than have a weaselly "some say".
[S]ayin':
There's not an emotion you're having that I can't validate.
"Virago" was a strong, brave, or warlike woman (from Latin "vir", "a man," compare Tomboy). The term was later used to refer to a noisy, bossy, and scolding woman. It is closely related to termagant, which is a quarrelsome, scolding woman and shrew, which is a nagging woman.
And this definition summarizes the entire case of manly shakes that overcomes the press when they contemplate a girl president.
Sadly, it's not only the vain old men. "Cunt" is not a word that I use lightly. Thank the Goddess for Code Pink.
And this definition summarizes the entire case of manly shakes that overcomes the press when they contemplate a girl president.
rootless-e
Eh-hee, they need to watch G&S's "Princess Ida" and get over themselves.
Just substitute w for Hillary and the statement is quite true.
Some say Hillary is a bitch.
Femme d'Brooklyn's got mail.
Only 1786? Well played, Republicans!!!
Just substitute w for Hillary and the statement is quite true.
ql vaginal American
Or, with certain qualifiers, Musharraf.
This post is wrong on a key point.
Many of the vain men who have sent men to die--or cheered others on to do so--are young, as in, prime fighting age.
And many of them are women.
Jebus. In preparing for his testimony Krongard asked his brother, Buzzy, about his financial relationship with Blackwater and Buzzy told his brother he was joining the board. Krongard then tesitifies first that there is no relationship and then says oops there is but I knew nothing about it. Waxman is gonna hold a hearing on 12/3 to look into perjury charges.
Thank you, Hecate for remarking on my Grandpa and the damned turkeys. They were really obnoxious - the only creature I insist actually -deserves- to be eaten. They tried to peck my Sister to death!
Eating them is Gud. Bite they little heads off.
wow, where did everybody go?
"think their personal reputations are more important than those they send off to die for them"
Gotta say that most people are guilty of that kind of conceit.
Just quiet all of a sudden I think.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar , That is a great picture. You can tell how old it is because the turkeys are dark colored. Most comercial turkeys today are white.
Brooklyn Girl!
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I accidently put my phone through the washing machine and now it is broken and I am off to get it replaced. I lost my phone numbers that were in the memory - maybe I can get Bush and Cheney to tell me who I have called?
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar , That is a great picture. You can tell how old it is because the turkeys are dark colored. Most comercial turkeys today are white.
dmark, still at work
'Enkew. Grandpa Herb is the tall one in the middle of the picture.
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I got a free range bird at the health food store. I think it got shiatsu massage, positive nurturing reinforcement, and organic grains before they wrung his little neck.
'Enkew. Grandpa Herb is the tall one in the middle of the picture.
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Thank dog, I thought it was a ginormous turkey!
Seriously, I'm ready to take up residence at the Ritz.
This is schweeeeeet.
Okay, time for dinner.
Seriously, I'm ready to take up residence at the Ritz.
This is schweeeeeet.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 11.17.07 - 6:16 pm | #
Couple of years ago, I looked into the process for requesting political asylum in a 4 seasons. Appears to need a larger sum of money than I currently can spend.
"I only care about Piercing Pagoda"-David Broder
"Comment by Fuck Atrios blocked. [unkill][show comment]"
Welcome to Killfile, Hell.
Population: YOU!
HAW! HAW! HAW!
p.s. fuck off and die, jack.
a bunch of vain old men in Washington confuse courage with cowardice and think their personal reputations are more important than those they send off to die for them.
if we keep saying this it will sink in
after all, Newsweek finally worked out that hiring the most successful blogger might sell magazines
One of my childhood memories is the complete equanimity of my various material units as we dealt with the Thankgiving turkey. Plucking it, gutting it, removing the pinfeathers (my Sister's job)- all in the kitchen of our charming Woodland Hills tract house.... Nice middle class family, reverting to country ways. Next thing I expected, we were going to go slaughter a couple of beeves, after we finished brining out the fresh ham my Great Aunt Dottie sent us from the Top of the Mountain north of Ft. Smith. That's a big two generations gang - America has changed quite a lot in that time.
By the Badgers up 20 to 13
cuba exports sugar, doctors, and teachers.
US exports weapons, wars, and hollywood movies.
who is the good guy?
my various material units
Heh. Maternal units.
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Femme d'Brooklyn's got mail.
NTodd, On On WANDERSEXXX! | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 6:03 pm |
Thanks ... I'm trying it now. So far I'm still getting the same damned IP address, but I'm going to try also disconnecting and reconnecting the modem.
who is the good guy?
gary in fl
Sugar rots your teeth and kids hate school and getting shots so it can't be Cuba.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 6:13 pm | #
Thanks!!!!
So far I'm still getting the same damned IP address, but I'm going to try also disconnecting and reconnecting the modem.
They must've tied your IP lease to your Mac's MAC addy. That's stupid.
It would be irresponsible to contemplate Mickey Kaus' role in the creation of this work of art.
They must've tied your IP lease to your Mac's MAC addy. That's stupid.
NTodd
IIRC, some cable companies tie your IP to the modem they gave you.
Oh, duh, BG: you're a RoadRunner customer. They fucking suck. Had similar issues with tigre's service last year when trying to setup her WiFi.
Movie advice needed.
Thinking of seeing either Lions for Lambs, Beowulf, or Bee movie tonight.
Any thoughts?
Everybody have a good evening. Got to go pick up Mrs d. She had a hard day at the art show and has moved to the bar for a martini. Best I get there for to many are consumed!
It is hard to overestimate the public appetite for competence in government. In a benchmark political poll by Zogby conducted this spring, we found that 82% said that, most of all, they wanted a president who was a competent manager of the government. It ranked higher than every other issue.
In paying more attention to a domestic agenda, Democrats may feel vulnerable about international issues, but the lack of terrorism in the U.S. actually offers an opportunity. Our international survey research shows our foreign policy has made the U.S. more vulnerable to our enemies, in large part because we lack allies. In the immediate aftermath of 9/11, Iran and Syria were both helping us catch members of al Qaeda. We had a network of friends that, with the war in Iraq, was lost. The next president will have to rebuild that network, so candidates may as well use it as a campaign issue as well.
It is a political fact of life in attention-deficit America today that issues don't make it onto the national radar until they are at or near crisis stage. Now that likely voters are settled into a comfortable post-9/11 mentality and are hungry to deal with new problems, candidates face the dual challenges of convincing voters of what is most important -- and that they are just the person to competently manage it back into obscurity.
http://www.zogby.com/cemag/view.cfm?id=5
Hecate, would you join me in Death by Minibar?
The Ritz carries Stoli.
IIRC, some cable companies tie your IP to the modem they gave you.
RR ties it to whatever your computer, not the modem. That's why MAC cloning is such a handy feature on Linksys and other WAPs...
Thanks ... I'm trying it now. So far I'm still getting the same damned IP address, but I'm going to try also disconnecting and reconnecting the modem.
Brooklyn Girl
If this is tied to the random bannings, then changing your IP won't help, because you will just get a new one from the same block, and the whole block will be banned.
Been there, done that, buried the T-shirt with the snails.
FIRST
In a benchmark political poll by Zogby conducted this spring, we found that 82% said that, most of all, they wanted a president who was a competent manager of the government.
Is this the same polling company that told us people would rather have a beer with dry drunk George Bush?
"1786 US troops have died ..."
Right. Below the annual average rate of death in the military DURING PEACETIME in the Carter Administration.
It's discouraging to see opponents of the war seeking partisan political advantage, willing to corrupt the body politic with lies, distortions and such ignorance of history. As the forces of Islamofascism plan their next moves against us.
It is a political fact of life in attention-deficit America today that issues don't make it onto the national radar until they are at or near crisis stage.
Population explosion. I am just saying.
I smell troll vomit.
Actually, I don't know how an ISP would tie an IP addy to a modem. It's a physical layer device. Something with DOCSIS?
Why is Obama listening to Novak?
Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) took the rare step of issuing a statement in his own name on Saturday to call attention to a report by columnist Robert D. Novak that New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign is sitting on "scandalous" information about Obama.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
20...ve_n_73126.html
RR ties it to whatever your computer, not the modem. That's why MAC cloning is such a handy feature on Linksys and other WAPs...
NTodd
Ah, another good reason to avoid RR.
The Ritz carries Stoli.
Ohhh, what Ritz are you at? My favorite Ritz was the one in NO, but I like the Ritz at Huntington Beach v. well, as well. I am drinking some v. nice wine that SteveLG sold to me last night from a place in Argentina that he visited. Why he has his job and I have mine, instead of vice vera, I will never understand.
The cable company I worked for tied the modem MAC address to a static IP address.
JR - in theory BG's unbanned, but still getting the banned message. Atrios has tried dealing with it. It is clearly an IP issue, though, since she can get in through a proxy.
I've posted at Haloscan asking if there's a possible "residual" that even the blog owner can't see. You know, an undocumented feature...
FIRST
wallynerf
WALTER NEFF!
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And, Sallhy, go have a massage. Never had a bad massage at the Ritz.
I am having a cherry martini. Anybody care to join in on the inebriation?
I smell troll vomit.
Either that or 2000 soldiers died every year for four years in "Desert One".
Actually, I don't know how an ISP would tie an IP addy to a modem. It's a physical layer device. Something with DOCSIS?
For some reason, I find this incredibly HAWT!
Afternoon, folks.
I concur with JR's report. Kindly open a window.
For some reason, I find this incredibly HAWT!
watertiger
No Flirting!
after the 'torture' memos, at what point can we consider ourselves "good germans"?
If this is tied to the random bannings, then changing your IP won't help, because you will just get a new one from the same block, and the whole block will be banned.
I don't think it is part of a larger block. Atrios can't unban me; I'm not on the banned list. This seems to be a little more compicated. But any thoughts you have about getting it resolved are welcome. NTodd has gotten me to the point where I can post, but it's still acting wacky.
And, NTodd, on the basis of your comment, this has something to do with my .Mac account?
For some reason, I find this incredibly HAWT!
Hey, babe, wanna exchange MAC addresses? And maybe later we can tracert and ping each other...
For some reason, I find this incredibly HAWT!
watertiger
Talk nerdy to me...
Is this the same polling company that told us people would rather have a beer with dry drunk George Bush?
George Johnston
i believe that particular meme was promoted by the beltway bloviators.
NTodd, you think using a proxy server for the time being might work ok for BG?
Why he has his job and I have mine, instead of vice vera, I will never understand.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 6:32 pm |
That is a mystery, my sister.
It couldn't possibly be that he's more virtuous.
NTodd plunges into WT's database slowly. He extracts.. the data, and routes it in the best way he knows how.
Actually, I don't know how an ISP would tie an IP addy to a modem. It's a physical layer device. Something with DOCSIS?
NTodd
Never bothered investigating it. Something in the modem firmware. They may have stopped doing it, I only ran into it once, with a single company, back when cable modems were relatively new.
NTodd plunges into WT's database slowly. He extracts.. the data, and routes it in the best way he knows how.
trifecta |
Homepage |
11.17.07 - 6:37 pm | #
Dear Hustler, I never thought it would happen to me....
And, NTodd, on the basis of your comment, this has something to do with my .Mac account?
No, not .Mac. The Media Access Control address (your Ethernet address). It's a local hardware address burned into your machine, and RR uses that to assign your global IP addy.
JR, nope. they even do it with soft phone modems
It couldn't possibly be that he's more virtuous.
Sadly, that's a v. likely explanation.
NTodd plunges into WT's database slowly. He extracts.. the data, and routes it in the best way he knows how.
Well, alrighty then!
NTodd, you think using a proxy server for the time being might work ok for BG?
It in fact does.
Hecate, Pasadena (actually San Marino).
I'm not a massage fan, but I did have the best manicure of my life last night. I think I'll do a pedicure in a bit.
NTodd plunges into WT's database slowly. He extracts.. the data, and routes it in the best way he knows how.
DELETE MY ACCOUNT!
No, wait...I mean: BACKUP MY HARD DRIVE!
and apropos of nothing, this advertisement does not, in fact, entice me to click on the appropriate link.
(just screen grab)
after the 'torture' memos, at what point can we consider ourselves "good germans"?
Now. Now would be good.
No, not .Mac. The Media Access Control address (your Ethernet address). It's a local hardware address burned into your machine, and RR uses that to assign your global IP addy.
NTodd, On On WANDERSEXXX! | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 6:38 pm | #
Okay, that makes more sense. Basically, the bottom line is starting to sound like that the only way to change my IP address is by contacting RoadRunner or changing service providers.
On the other hand, it also sounds like there may be some haloscan issues that also need to be resolved (like that weird code that shows up in the comments window when you click the preview button ... oh wait, that's a feature, not a bug!)
NTodd has gotten me to the point where I can post, but it's still acting wacky.
OK, because I was getting banned randomly, and IT WAS ALL ATRIOS' FAULT!
Someone said that you could only have 20 blocks banned at a time. The FIFO principle means that you will eventually become unbanned.
Never give up
Never slow down
Never grow old
And never die young.
Good advice from JT on my iPod.
I used to live out that way Sally. If you want recommendations for food substances let me know.
A few killer places out in the San Gabriel Valley.
Sadly, that's a v. likely explanation.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Heh, come sit here by me.
Well, my T-day plans are complete. I'll be joining the wonderful family next door.
Armando, the dad, assures me that he makes the moistest turkey in the world. I asked him how he did that.
"Two words, Chica: tequila."
ot, but when rice ordered state employees to iraq, there was much commentary (not here) denouncing them as weenies. well, cq has a piece explaining where some of that hesitancy originated. injured victims of the african embassy bombings were abandoned by dos and still, years afterwards have to fight for any medical, mental health services they desperately need:
Later, he was visited nightly by “horrific nightmares,” he told me. ”I mean horrendous, Friday the 13th kind of nightmares.”
As time passed, they got worse. He slid into a valley of unrelenting depression and thoughts of suicide — symptoms that many combat survivors have described and been treated for. Finally he sought help from a State Department medical officer.
“He told me to take St. Johns Wort,” an over-the-counter herb, said the former diplomat, who asked not to be named because it could hurt future job prospects.
He got therapy and prescriptions on his own, and appealed for help with his medical bills. He was told his problem “was not work related.” He fell into debt.
Driven to the edge, he finally booked himself into a private psychiatric hospital in Arizona.
The State Department took away his security clearance.
He was broken — and broke. He resigned.
“I’m 58,” he said, “and I have no savings.”
http://public.cq.com/docs/hs/
hsn...0002630082.html
Someone said that you could only have 20 blocks banned at a time. The FIFO principle means that you will eventually become unbanned.
Yes, but Atrios cannot even see her as being banned in the interface. Which is why I wonder if there's a residual entry somewhere. Fucking Jeevan.
Armando, the dad, assures me that he makes the moistest turkey in the world. I asked him how he did that.
"Two words, Chica: tequila."
Diane C. Barking-Mad
I don't suppose he has two additional seats, and room on the table for two very spoiled cats?
trifecta, a nice Italian place would rock.
We had an amazing steak dinner at the Terrace in the Ritz. Amazing meal, wonderful service.
Pasadena
I think that's the one that I call Huntington? I love that Ritz. Great pool, great restaurant. Head over to the gardens tomorrow; I've got a v. good friend who's a docent there. You can see amazing roses, great Japanese garden, lovely desert garden, Pinky and Blue Boy in the musuem, and, my all time favorite, the white garden in moonlight. Have fun; you deserve it!
We had an amazing steak dinner at the Terrace in the Ritz. Amazing meal, wonderful service.
Sallyh
I've obviously missed something. Why are you at . . . ?
OK, because I was getting banned randomly, and IT WAS ALL ATRIOS' FAULT!
How long did it last? I've been banned for five days so far ...
Sallyh, the old Huntington (now the Ritz) also used to have a truly wonderful afternoon tea. Hopefully the new owners have kept up that tradition.
JR, nope. they even do it with soft phone modems
innocent bystander
I know you can request a static address, but no one around here does it as default for dial-up or DSL, you have to request it.
Not sure about Italian in the valley. Babita in San Gabriel is the best upscale hole in the wall Mexican restaurant on the planet.
Devon in Monrovia has an excellent saucier and to die for appetizers and an extensive wine list.
jac, early birthday gift from Monsieur, who felt I needed a Mental Health Weekend.
Which I did.
Yes, but Atrios cannot even see her as being banned in the interface.
That's the thing ... he's tried twice to unban be and he can't.
Hecate, we visit Huntington Gardens frequently. Love the place; we have a membership. We visited yesterday. The grounds of the Ritz also have lovely gardens, and we enjoyed those today.
How long did it last? I've been banned for five days so far ...
Brooklyn Girl
on and off for several weeks now. But sometimes I'll be able to post for an entire day without interuption, and sometimes I'll be banned for an entire day, and sometimes it only lasts a few hours.
Mental Health Weekend.
Sallyh
Well, then, go crazy!
Diane, high tea is served in the Lounge daily. We'd already had lunch at the Huntington Tea Room, so we didn't indulge. And we were ready for booze by then.
Sallyh,
And I've never had a meal that was less than amazing here and here, both of which are v. close to you. Esp. the Parkway. Great food. Or, there's always the In-n-Out at the foothills of the San Gabriels. I love those mountains.
Yes, but Atrios cannot even see her as being banned in the interface. Which is why I wonder if there's a residual entry somewhere. Fucking Jeevan.
NTodd
If it's rolled-over then she should be unbanned if enough entries are made into the list. Add a few Chinese netblocks and see what happens?
Why doesn't Haloscum have a whitelist?
Never bothered investigating it. Something in the modem firmware. They may have stopped doing it, I only ran into it once, with a single company, back when cable modems were relatively new.
JR, not currently banned
Who is provisioning her modem?
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I don't suppose he has two additional seats, and room on the table for two very spoiled cats?
I always have room. Especially for the cats.
We had one cat, now long gone, who could not be in the house whenever whole birds were served. We made the mistake the first year we had her, and by the time we were ready to take used dishes to the kitchen, she had licked the carcass totally clean.
The grounds of the Ritz also have lovely gardens, a
I've walked those so many mornings when I've been out there for business. Beautiful palm trees. And, of course, Pasadena is Craftsman Bungalow heaven. If my family and circle weren't out here, I'd live in Pasadena. I love it.
Esp. the Parkway
Hecate is right on that. Next door to the Parkway is a steak place owned by the same people who own the Parkway Grill. I think it's call the Chop House, although I could be wrong.
WONDERFUL steak.
on and off for several weeks now. But sometimes I'll be able to post for an entire day without interuption, and sometimes I'll be banned for an entire day, and sometimes it only lasts a few hours.
JR, not currently banned | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 6:48 pm | #
Well, this has been pretty consistent for five full days with no break ... I can't post from home, and Atrios doesn't see me on the banned list.
Do you guys think I should talk to my cable company about this?
Who is provisioning her modem?
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GWPDA
mimi.
I love those mountains.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
I'd be happy to FedEx you a bag o'burgers from In'n'Out. They're right off the highway to Amex, and not too far from things I need to do.
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The Arroyo Chop House?
Who is provisioning her modem?
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GWPDA
if she can reach the 'net it's not likely to be a problem with her modem. IIRC, she can post on other sites that use Haloscan, so I'm pretty sure it's something in the Eschaton blacklist.
Why doesn't Haloscum have a whitelist?
Let's work on stability first before adding a new feature that doesn't work. Besides, that's RACIST!
I would like a 2x2 protein style with animal style fries GWPDA. Thank you very much.
♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ Sallyh! ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
Cats need to eat, too, eh? 
Speaking of which... cat wrasslin' from today.
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Who is provisioning her modem?
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GWPDA
mimi.
jac | 11.17.07 - 6:52 pm | #
That wouldn't surprise me, actually.
mimi.
jac
The Eleventh Commandment: Thou Shalt Not Mention the Name of The Troll m*m*, because if JR gets banned again as a result, JR will slap you with a fish. A week-old fish.
Oh.
I thought you meant tea at the Huntington Library. I was going to caution you about the ratties. Ivy, you know.
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I'd be happy to FedEx you a bag o'burgers from In'n'Out. They're right off the highway to Amex, and not too far from things I need to do.
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GWPDA
I thought the In'n'Out was on Camrose.
Those are good burgers.
Do you guys think I should talk to my cable company about this?
Not yet. Customer service sucks, and there's no guarantee changing your host ID will work. Let's see if we can find out what's going on Haloscan's end first.
The Arroyo Chop House?
trifecta
That sounds like it, trifecta.
There is an in and out in Arcadia right off the 210 on Huntington drive.
Let's work on stability first before adding a new feature that doesn't work.
NTodd
That didn't seem to slow down the "implementation" of butterbar.
{{{Jeffraham, my sweet!}}}
I'm having a wonderful weekend.
Monsieur mentioned something about Mlle at dinner last night, and I said, you know, I'm done worrying about kids for the next 48 hours. He concurred
The Eleventh Commandment: Thou Shalt Not Mention the Name of The Troll m*m*, because if JR gets banned again as a result, JR will slap you with a fish. A week-old fish.
JR
No, the Eleventh is "don't speak ill of another Republican."
This would have to be down the list.
I'm guessing 88. That's a very symmetrical number.
Those are good burgers.
Shut the fuck up, jackie.
I thought the In'n'Out was on Camrose.
Those are good burgers.
jac
Maybe. But the one I know of in Phoenix is off I-17 at the Yorkshire exit.
Nothing comes close to the wonderfulness of Lot-A-Burgers. But Hecate loves these, so these are what I can provide.
88 is the loneliest number.
They also have really good fries and shakes there.
They also pay the teen-agers who work there $9.00 an hour to start last I checked.
Hecate, have you had the chocolate covered strawberries while at the Ritz? Served with a bottle of champagne?
There was some delay in our room being ready yesterday, so we were compensated when we did arrive in our room with these treats.
Maybe. But the one I know of in Phoenix is off I-17 at the Yorkshire exit.
GWPDA
*cough*Big Lebowski*cough*
Not yet. Customer service sucks, and there's no guarantee changing your host ID will work. Let's see if we can find out what's going on Haloscan's end first.
NTodd, On On WANDERSEXXX! | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 6:54 pm | #
Okay, thanks.
Brave new world, huh?
And just in case this helps you in troubleshooting, I have to re-open the comments window whenever I want to post, and there are a series of checkboxes at the top each time I re-open in.
The banned by webmaster comment is always there.
Sallyh: I'm having a wonderful weekend.
Good -- you definitely deserve it.
I'm gonna drink beer, watch Badboyzbadboyz, eat tortellini, and chill, m'sef.
Monsieur mentioned something about Mlle at dinner last night, and I said, you know, I'm done worrying about kids for the next 48 hours. He concurred
It's nice to be able to be at that point, no?
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Sallyh, of all the things I envy you for the most, it is for having somebody to recognise you require a mental health weekend, and does something about it.
Good work, girly! Well done!
I'm to spa.
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Do you guys think I should talk to my cable company about this?
Brooklyn Girl
Isn't phone service to that part of the world a bit iffy right now?
Seriously, if you can reach the 'net and post on other Haloscan sites, then it isn't anything to do with your ISP. Jeevan may be the only one who can help you, so you had better find out what his favourite cookies are and start baking.
But Atrios, look at the bright side:
There are only 2.38 Friedman Units left before Bush is scheduled to leave. If 1786 die in 4 FU's, then only another 1063 will die in that time.
What's a thousand lives, give or take? It won't be any of the Village's kids, right? No harm, no foul.
Best tea I've ever had was at the NO Ritz, where Son, DiL, and I met up for T/giving 2001:
Traditional New Orleans “Big Easy” Tea
Delicate sandwiches and petite pastries are served with your selection of freshly infused tea from the list below. Accompanied by a glass of The Ritz Champagne, Steven Kent Chardonnay or Tio Pepe Sherry, this afternoon indulgence of excess in miniature. It is a Regal complement to the company.
Mini Lobster Rolls, Tasso Cream Cheese
Crawfish Remoulade Barquette
Tasso Deviled Egg with Louisiana Choupique Caviar
Artichoke Confit,, Rockefeller Cream Cheese On Wheat
Smoked Salmon on Brioche a Green Tomato Jam
Louisiana Choupique Caviar and crème fraîche on Blinis
Trio of Freshly Baked Scones with Lemon
And Devonshire Cream
Assorted Tea Breads, Fruit Tart, Tea Pastries,
Cookie and pralines
Slice Strawberries in Flute of Champagne
Fresh Strawberries, Served with Whipped Cream
$27
Never mind all the people who will die.
It will spike the price of oil.
http://www6.comcast.net/news/art...007/11/17/OPEC/
Atrios really should just move to fucking Typepad at the very least. It's not like he can't afford it...
They also pay the teen-agers who work there $9.00 an hour to start last I checked.
trifecta
Do they make them sing?
At least in the SFV, In & Out employees start at $10.50/hr. Not exactly a living wage, but not atrocious if you live with Mom and/or Dad.
And just in case this helps you in troubleshooting, I have to re-open the comments window whenever I want to post, and there are a series of checkboxes at the top each time I re-open in.
The banned by webmaster comment is always there.
Brooklyn Girl
Is this happening on all sites that use Haloscan, or just Eschaton? The checkboxes thingie espoecially?
Do they make them sing?
JR,
Only effette pasty white people songs.
Jeevan may be the only one who can help you, so you had better find out what his favourite cookies are and start baking.
JR, not currently banned | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 6:58 pm | #
At this point, I'll do it gladly.
Glad you guys are on the case. It has been driving me nuts.
Eating them is Gud. Bite they little heads off.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar
Nibble on they tiny feet?
Is this happening on all sites that use Haloscan, or just Eschaton? The checkboxes thingie espoecially?
JR, not currently banned | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 7:01 pm | #
Don't know. I'll go find out.
If I'm not mistaken, Jeevan is a chocolate chip mandroid.
I'll have to wait till tomorrow, though...I'm not doing a damn thing for myself (or anyone else) this weekend
we are, after all, a nation that tolerates and bankrolls shock 'n awe, guantanamo, and abu ghraib.
OT, but Ruth advises that apparently the American Petroleum Institute has decided against funding the oceanic exhibit at the Smithsonian.
Awwww...wutta freakin' shame.
Only effette pasty white people songs.
trifecta
There's a place called Lick's here. They make the staff sing the orders, etc.
"Ain't it great to hear them field hands a-singin' as theys pickin' that cotton."
And for those who do not want kitteh video, I have stills, too.
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Is this happening on all sites that use Haloscan, or just Eschaton? The checkboxes thingie espoecially?
JR, not currently banned | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 7:01 pm | #
Only here, but this is the only site I'm getting into via a proxy ...
Only here, but this is the only site I'm getting into via a proxy ...
Brooklyn Girl
it strikes me that having code that can distinguish between a proxy and a straight connection would be a rather complex task for something like haloscan (which may explain a number of things...)
Try one of those site via proxy.
Oh, what type of proxy are you using? onion?
apetra | 11.17.07 - 6:29 pm
What part of Iraq ya posting from, soldier?
(Fucking wingtard idiot)
Coupla healthy boys ya got there, JP.
For those that missed it...
NOVA: Judgement Day (Intelligent Design On Trial) is now online for your viewing pleasure
Terry C: Coupla healthy boys ya got there, JP.
They seem happy. I can't believe how big L.E. is getting.
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"Ain't it great to hear them field hands a-singin' as theys pickin' that cotton."
JR, not currently banned
"Hey, mutha fucka, bring me another icetea!"
we are, after all, a nation that tolerates and bankrolls shock 'n awe, guantanamo, and abu ghraib.
What I really appreciate most about you, gary, is your insistence on providing concrete suggestions for how to deal with the situation, particularly your own personal examples of direct action.
What I really appreciate most about you, gary, is your insistence on providing concrete suggestions for how to deal with the situation, particularly your own personal examples of direct action.
NTodd, On On WANDERSEXXX!
JR, there was a time when one of the commenting services used to test back to your IP address on well known proxy ports.
It's a shame that there is so much abuse of open proxies by spammers, since there are people living under repressive regimes that actually need them to access honest information.
it strikes me that having code that can distinguish between a proxy and a straight connection would be a rather complex task for something like haloscan (which may explain a number of things...)
Try one of those site via proxy.
Oh, what type of proxy are you using? onion?
JR, not currently banned | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 7:07 pm | #
No, one called alwayshide that I got via email earlier.
I'll check another site via proxy after dinner and get back to you guys ...
And thanks again to both of you!!! (Is there an emoticon for hat tip?)
"Hey, mutha fucka, bring me another icetea!"
Terry C
I wouldn't do that to the poor kids conned into that nonsense...
I said it to my companion, a lady of less than 100% European extraction. She failed to keep a straight face.
It's a slow night.
.
And, I've acquired my first pair of $40 gloves. I think they'll do for scootin' this winter.
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I don't have nor want a tattoo, but these are still kind of neat, science tattoos.
http://m3.alexweidmann.com/
piles...s=sciencetattoo
JR, not currently banned
It just popped into my head.
Never ceases to amaze me what a total flaming asshole Bill Orally can be.
It's a slow night.
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Jeffraham Prestonian
Dinner hour on the East Coast.
Cocktail hour everywhere else.
You are exactly correct Atrios...dirty VENAL OLD GRAY BASTARDS....,and millions more suffer
Oh dear. L'il Debbie is at it again.
And, I've acquired my first pair of $40 gloves. I think they'll do for scootin' this winter.
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 7:17 pm | #
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hey you! ...love you pals new site...i left a comment
the surge is not working and no political progress has been made
particularly your own personal examples of direct action.
NTodd, On On WANDERSEXXX! | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 7:12 pm
i drive a subaru and have curly lightbulbs, what more can i do?
Oh dear. L'il Debbie is at it again.
watertiger
Now that was funny.
JR, there was a time when one of the commenting services used to test back to your IP address on well known proxy ports.
It's a shame that there is so much abuse of open proxies by spammers, since there are people living under repressive regimes that actually need them to access honest information.
Tom
Those are all different things.
Anyway, to avoid jargon, the onion systems (like Tor) don't behave, to the recieving end, like a proxy... they are more like NAT routing for the internet than anything else.
i drive a subaru and have curly lightbulbs, what more can i do?
You really do think outside the fucking box, don't you?
the surge is not working and no political progress has been made
Liars For Bush
Time to declare victory and get the fuck out of there!
JP call me....going to a Bonfire/Cookout later...
aiiight, speaking of comedians, time for dinner.
laterz.
Never ceases to amaze me what a total flaming asshole Bill Orally can be.
Terry C
While I won't say that he's ceased to amaze me, I am occassionally mildly suprosed by his discovery of new depths of turpitude.
Love those Xmas ads.
Wal-Mart and Macy's.
Macy's and Wal-Mart
Wal-Mart and Macy's...
Blech.
Anyway, to avoid jargon, the onion systems (like Tor) don't behave, to the recieving end, like a proxy... they are more like NAT routing for the internet than anything else.
I'm sure this makes sense to you, but what does it actually mean?
But they can't say them in public or put them in writing and send them out into the world.
Oh, dear god.
time to eat
Sweet dreams, Bats de la Lune.
But they can't say them in public or put them in writing and send them out into the world.
Oh, dear god.
pie
I wonder how Debbie must feel, knowing that nobody on the writing staff ever reads or listens to her.
Anyway, to avoid jargon, the onion systems (like Tor) don't behave, to the recieving end, like a proxy... they are more like NAT routing for the internet than anything else.
JR, not currently banned | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 7:27 pm
except most people using a proxy to bypass a site ban or the Great Firewall don't use tor, but usually just an open http proxy, like alwayshide or anonymouse or a hacked zombie.
I wonder how Debbie must feel, knowing that nobody on the writing staff ever reads or listens to her.
Shit, I don't think she reads or listens to herself.
I'm sure this makes sense to you, but what does it actually mean?
pie
It strips off the originating address and uses its own when communicating with the next machine in line. So essentially you are just routing your requests through a machine (actually a series of machines) that tells the internet that *it* is *you*.
Debbie Howell is my lover. You people are just mean and hateful.
I actually had someone tell me the other day that my refusing to shop at WalMart "is hurting poor people."
I just stared, long and hard, at her as if to say "Are you insane or are you just dumber than catshit?"
except most people using a proxy to bypass a site ban or the Great Firewall don't use tor,
The firewall occurs before you reach the tor, so it won't help. It easily gets around bans that are based on IPs, unless the site owner has blocked the entire list of known onion routers.
And, to further explain to pie and BG, it uses the regular http port (port 80), so there is no "giveaway" that it is a proxy.
If you don't get your cheetos at Wal-Mart, you hate Merika.
I wonder how Debbie must feel, knowing that nobody on the writing staff ever reads or listens to her.
Or they DO read and listen and then laugh derisively.
It strips off the originating address and uses its own when communicating with the next machine in line. So essentially you are just routing your requests through a machine (actually a series of machines) that tells the internet that *it* is *you*.
Oh. Thanks.
So BK became part of something else?
BTW, I undersatnd that some versions of Firefox come with a built-in option to use a tor... Torpark.
Or they DO read and listen and then laugh derisively.
Terry C
Well, at least we have something in common with those assholes.
At Ground Zero today they are still digging the foundations for the new freedom tower. Before 9-11 the one thing Giuliani had done was to build himself, right next to this site, an emergency command centre
Giuliani spent $60m on the command centre in the World Trade Centre. He installed a humidor for his cigars, monogrammed towels in bathroom, even had private elevator which was handy when he brought his mistress here at the weekends. But he also installed a 600 gallon fuel tank which meant that when burning debris hit the building it went up like a blowtorch
So Giuliani found himself wandering the streets because he had ignored advice to put his command centre safely underground in Brooklyn. Insisting instead it had to be near City hall.
trifecta
And THIS asshole wants to be PRESIDENT.
Speaking of which, the Iraq War is good news for President Bush;
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/
20071...raq_usa_bush_dc
Told ya.
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So BK became part of something else?
pie
I'm not sure what you are asking about.
The tor system just hides your machine, not your traffic, from the net. That's the same thing that your NAT router does... each machine on the NAT has it's own address. But the internet can only see the address of the NAT, which passes everything back and forth.
damned random apostrophes, sneaking into perfectly good words.
I'm not sure what you are asking about.
Trying to understand why she's been blocked.
But dinner's done.
I'll check in later.
Giuliani spent $60m on the command centre in the World Trade Centre.
You really wonder what kind of a shit-for-brains would put an "emergency command center" in a building that had been attacked by terrorists.
There are already far too many dangerous morons in DC at the moment. We do not need to import more.
http://www.warandpiece.com/blogd...irs/
006778.html
:::Senator Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania, the ranking Republican on the panel, is pushing a plan that would substitute the federal government as the defendant in the lawsuits against the telecommunications companies. That would mean that the government, not the companies, would pay damages in successful lawsuits.
Senator Sheldon Whitehouse, Democrat of Rhode Island, said in an interview after the vote Thursday that he would support a compromise along the lines of the Specter proposal.:::
'evenin'
Drive-by cite to, of all things, Leviticus 24:22 (NRSV) on the question of undocumented immigrants:
You shall have one law for the alien and for the citizen: for I am the LORD your God.
I can hear RMJ telling me he told me so...
Jeffraham, I loves me some cat wrasslin.'
They are big, beautiful, happy boys, to be sure
That would mean that the government, not the companies, would pay damages in successful lawsuits.
"Government of, for and by the people."
Wait a minute, aren't we the government?
ProfWombat, more champagne and strawberries, my dear?
damned random apostrophes, sneaking into perfectly good words.
JR, not currently banned
"It should be easy to see
The crux of the biscuit
Is the Apostrophe(')
Well, you know =-the man who was talkin' to the dog looked at the dog an' he said: (sort of staring in disbelief)
"You can't say that!"
He said:
"IT DOESN'T, 'n YOU CAN'T!
I WON'T, 'n IT DON'T!
IT HASN'T, IT ISN'T, IT EVEN AIN'T
'N IT SHOULDN'T . . .
IT COULDN'T!"
He told me NO NO NO!
I told him YES YES YES!
I said: "I do it all the time . . .
Ain't this boogie a mess!"
You shall have one law for the alien and for the citizen...
Socialism at its worst!
Is it another day in haloscan hell or is Mercury in retrograde again? I keep getting transported back to Friday.
sallyh: as it happens, I went early Christmas shopping, most pleasantly, with youngest Wombette to Prtsmouth NH, a lovely place to do that, today. A walk across a bridge lands you in Kittery, Me, where the Cacao chocolate store sits. They make the best chocolate, bar none, ever known to the Wombat sensory apparatus. Perhaps some dark?
Is it another day in haloscan hell or is Mercury in retrograde again? I keep getting transported back to Friday.
cosmosis |
11.17.07 - 7:59 pm | #
you are caught in the Star Trek rerun loop. The Orobouros of Hell o scan.
I can hear RMJ telling me he told me so...
ProfWombat
yes, but you haven't explored centuries of intricate theological arguments on the subject, so you aren't allowed to comment.
Tweety is an asshole. And why is Hank Buchanan still running around free? The guy threatened someone with a gun.
Phila: Leviticus here anticipates the 14th amendment, with its extension of rights of due process and equal protection to persons, not just citizens:
No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Imagine that: the Constitution and the Bible, both agreeing on the necessity for justice for all, citizen or no...
Sallyh: Jeffraham, I loves me some cat wrasslin.'
They are big, beautiful, happy boys, to be sure
I wish there was more sunshine when I'm home so I could record more of it. As it is, they seem to be fairly "camera-aware," and they ease up when the camera is on.
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Imagine that: the Constitution and the Bible, both agreeing on the necessity for justice for all, citizen or no...
ProfWombat
The current administration disagrees.
Justice for some, little American flags for others...
JR: yeah, I'm a simple guy; I know what to leave to my betters' more erudite musings...
I'm sure I've seen that tie-dyed Murtha walking around with a blunt at the Oregon Country Fair.
But, hey, you can't believe the UN:
http://www6.comcast.net/news/art...nge.Conference/
I'm about to boil that there tortellini... Aldi had small quantities of Barilla, so I bought all what they had.
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Some cats for you.
It'd be fun if someone asked Bush at a press conference what he thought of Leviticus 24:22, which, in his religious view, is doubtless the Revealed Word of the Lord.
JR: yeah, I'm a simple guy; I know what to leave to my betters' more erudite musings...
ProfWombat
Did we both forget the snark tags, or just me?
Today I learned that the best way to increase traffic to my website is to mention Ron Paul. His followers must have some sort of alert that goes off.
And that's putting it nicely.
Echidne: Some cats for you.
Them's you's kittehs?
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His followers must have some sort of alert that goes off.
They do. They turn up within ten minutes of the post.
Arkenor: Offer to give away Ron Paul coins. That will really bring out the crazies.
Them's you's kittehs?
My sister's kittehs. They are Korats, so very small and slim.
As long as we're quoting Leviticus on strangers, we may as well go whole hog:
And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him. But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.
It's probably some kind of metaphor for the free market.
JR: yeah, I'm a simple guy; I know what to leave to my betters' more erudite musings...
Aren't we just the height of good manners.
His followers must have some sort of alert that goes off.
Arkenor
Most of them are, apparently, bot.
Someone did a quiz as a test.
"What do you wear?"
1) boxers
2) briefs
3) Ron Paul
"Ron Paul" won.
Echidne: My sister's kittehs. They are Korats, so very small and slim.
I knew they had to be small. I used to have one of those "nap stations" for Curly, when I first got him, but he quickly outgrew it.
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Aren't we just the height of good manners.
pie
No, I'm fucking not.
Some people are rather lucky that I was banned last night.
JR: no sweat; we're old friends by now, and we've been around the block enough times for me to be able to have an educated guess about the high regard in which you doubtless hold theology as a human andeavour...
Today I learned that the best way to increase traffic to my website is to mention Ron Paul. His followers must have some sort of alert that goes off./i>
He's a republican.
You're talking about him because he claims he want to end the war?
Too funny.
Aren't we just the height of good manners.
pie | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 8:08 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
I didn't think he was being sarcastic. But then, I wouldn't.
I get visited by countless bots. Most are spam bots trying to fill my comments with their evil. But I fitted a recaptcha device to my comments this week (a very nice one that is helping digitise old books) so their evil is for naught. Which sure beats having to delete a thousand comments a week. They seem real fond of wordpress comments system.
Some people are rather lucky that I was banned last night.
Some people were lucky?
Doubtful.
Why were you banned?
Once again, 'splain to me how you think we ain't living in Bizzaro World. How is it that this nutbar is running for President and that he is seriously considered as a candidate?
about the high regard in which you doubtless hold theology as a human andeavour...
ProfWombat
Yah - we . And what would you like me to say about it, eh, Chuy?
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You're talking about him because he claims he want to end the war?
Too funny.
pie
No, I'm talking about him because he wants to leave the UN, and end the foreign aid program. I trust that is alright with you.
Some people are rather lucky that I was banned last night.
Perhaps you're overestimating your abilities.
Me, my style is to say, 'I disagree with you, and here's why...', rather than
'Go fuck yourself, you ignorant asswipe, and here's why...' It might be observed that, under certain circumstances, there isn't as much difference other than style between the two as all that...
I didn't think he was being sarcastic. But then, I wouldn't.
Sarcastic?
no.
His followers must have some sort of alert that goes off.
They do. They turn up within ten minutes of the post.
Prolly just check Technorati...
Atrios complaining that there are too many tourists in Philly?
Ha!
It's to laugh.
I went to Macy's and couldn't get in.
The world's largest fucking department store and I couldn't get fucking in!
Some people are rather lucky that I was banned last night.
Some people were lucky?
Doubtful.
Why were you banned?
pie | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 8:12 pm | #
Sorry about that.
we've been around the block enough times for me to be able to have an educated guess about the high regard in which you doubtless hold theology as a human andeavour...
ProfWombat
You know, it's not that.
It's that you aren't allowed to discuss anything to do with religion or God without having translated Boethius from the original.
Prolly just check Technorati...
NTodd
Probably, but it's fun to imagine an army of keyboard warriors mobilising at the sound of a siren.
I'm scanning old family pictures about children right now. Charming, especially the ones where little girls have sun-bonnets and sunshades or the ones where little boys have a hobby-horse to ride in front of one of those theatrically bubolic painted backdrops. Sadly, some of the loveliest pictures are of babies who never grew much older than in the pics.
No, I'm talking about him because he wants to leave the UN, and end the foreign aid program. I trust that is alright with you.
Who wants to leave the UN?
Bush?
He left it years ago.
Watching "Galapagos" on The National Geographic channel. The photography is magnificent.
Why were you banned?
pie
Guilty of being on the same netblock as a troll.
Don't go see Beowolf!!! It was horrible, I booed!!! It truly is a waste of good money!!
Total CRAP!!!
You know, it's not that.
It's that you aren't allowed to discuss anything to do with religion or God without having translated Boethius from the original.
Take this to RMJ's blog.
Please.
'Go fuck yourself, you ignorant asswipe, and here's why...' It might be observed that, under certain circumstances, there isn't as much difference other than style between the two as all that...
ProfWombat
Now, when have I ever said that to anyone who was either a troll or NTodd?
"Looking For Mr. Nutbar"
It's that you aren't allowed to discuss anything to do with religion or God without having translated Boethius from the original.
JR, not currently banned | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 8:14 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
I've been here going on five years, and haven't found that to be the case.
since Murtha began giving senility a new meaning with his "surrender now" comments many months ago, fewer American military have been killed in Iraq than were killed on one day--June 6, 1944.
Meanwhile, when is this national embarrassment of a Congressman going to apologize to the acquitted Marines he was so quick to label "cold-blooded killers"?
Guilty of being on the same netblock as a troll.
You, in other words.
Take this to RMJ's blog.
Please.
pie
Why, RMJ said that *here*.
You, in other words.
pie
I love you, too.
Lubyanka, still a loony wanker.
I shall go out and hold up a chocolate store. Please continue.
I've been here going on five years, and haven't found that to be the case.
Phila
That's exactly what RMJ said about Dawkins book.
I love you, too.
I'm not clever enough to play your games.
Dunno; nobody's ever bothered me when I've expressed an opinion on just about anything here, except flagrant trolls, and the time when I gave the wrong value for the Chandrasekhar limit, and was corrected by four posters within minutes...
When will lubyanka the cowardly lion enlist?
It's that you aren't allowed to discuss anything to do with religion or God without having translated Boethius from the original.
JR, not currently banned | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 8:14 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
I've been here going on five years, and haven't found that to be the case.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 8:18 pm | #
Well, fuck God then.
Perhaps you're overestimating your abilities.
Phila
and the time when I gave the wrong value for the Chandrasekhar limit, and was corrected by four posters within minutes...
Important. Really.
Perhaps you're overestimating your abilities.
Phila
Is someone's concience pricking them?
Now, celebrating the virtues of the Iraq war by comparing its casualties to those of D-Day is surely high in the ranking for non-sequitur of the year...
Wow, I should get on that.
The irony, as I've mentioned here before, is that I knew Ron Paul a while ago. He was a cult figure in my office.
Now he's famous. I can't believe it.
and the time when I gave the wrong value for the Chandrasekhar limit, and was corrected by four posters within minutes...
Important. Really.
pie | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 8:21 pm | #
Well, fuck Chandrasekhar too.
It's probably some kind of metaphor for the free market.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 8:08 pm | #
The old testament is grim and vengeful, don't you know? And only the new testament contains all that humanitarian stuff. I keep reading that on the internet, so it must be true.
That's exactly what RMJ said about Dawkins book.
JR, not currently banned | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 8:20 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
No, not exactly. What he said - to paraphrase it badly - is that the subject is worthy of better scholarship than Dawkins was willing or able to bring to it.
It's a perfectly reasonable objection. The fact that you find a subject ridiculous doesn't ennoble shoddy research or thinking.
Chandrasekhar was a great physicist and a thoroughly decent human being. No need to insult his memory gratuitously.
I think I need to start going to bed.
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Is someone's concience pricking them?
JR, not currently banned | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 8:21 pm | # [kill]
Should it?
Dunno; nobody's ever bothered me when I've expressed an opinion on just about anything here
I think it depends a lot about what you're expressing opinions on. I've been jumped on for being highly critical of religion, for saying Jane Fonda's 1972 trip to Hanoi was a really really bad idea, and for defending the Flight 93 movie as not being pro-Bush propaganda, amongst other things.
It's a perfectly reasonable objection. The fact that you find a subject ridiculous doesn't ennoble shoddy research or thinking.
Phila
Except Dawkins wasn't writing about theology, and never claimed to be writing about theology.
So whining about his lack of scholorship on a subject that he wasn't even discussing *is* silly.
And, BTW, Boethius is just as boring in the original.
How is it that this nutbar is running for President and that he is seriously considered as a candidate?
bo | 11.17.07 - 8:12 pm | #
Especially when solid, sane, and serious people like Guiliani and Oven Mitt are running against him in the thug primaries.
It's a sham and a farce.
I'm gonna write a book about alchemy that explains how people were stoooopid for believing in transmutation.
No, not exactly. What he said - to paraphrase it badly - is that the subject is worthy of better scholarship than Dawkins was willing or able to bring to it.
What a gay thing to say.
So whining about his lack of scholorship on a subject that he wasn't even discussing *is* silly.
JR, not currently banned
So whining about his lack of scholorship on a subject that he wasn't even discussing *is* silly.
JR, not currently banned
Baby, it's the -whining- that gets on peoples nerves. Not the subject.
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Should it?
Phila
yes, while we are on the subject of Dawkins.
Unless that was a namestealer.
The fuckin' games just don't quit.
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The 2002 McCain-Feingold law barred federal candidates and officeholders from soliciting or controlling so-called soft money intended to influence elections, even if they’re not running in the elections and the cash goes to committees beyond their control.
But that will change if Nunes and McCarthy get their way.
Federal politicians would be able to solicit contributions of far more than the current limits: $4,600 per election cycle to a candidate, or $5,000 annually to a political action committee.
Critics are pressing the FEC to reject the request, which they say is a particularly slippery slope since Nunes and McCarthy will be on the ballot with the initiative they want to raise money for.
It’s an “end run around the McCain-Feingold law’s soft money ban,” said Paul Ryan, a lawyer with the Campaign Legal Center, a nonpartisan watchdog group. “It would be a big step to gutting the ban.”
He predicted the contributions would “inevitably be used to turn out voters who are likely to cast votes not only in favor of the ballot initiative but also [in favor] of the congressmen who support it.”
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Chandrasekhar was a great physicist and a thoroughly decent human being. No need to insult his memory gratuitously.
You haven't got a fucking clue about how to cook a moist turkey, do you?
What about winning a presidential election? Got a clue about that?
Liberalism is a virus. I think Darwin said that.
Except Dawkins wasn't writing about theology, and never claimed to be writing about theology.
So whining about his lack of scholorship on a subject that he wasn't even discussing *is* silly.
JR, not currently banned | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 8:27 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
An utterly specious distinction in this context.
Chandrasekhar was a great physicist and a thoroughly decent human being. No need to insult his memory gratuitously.
ProfWombat | 11.17.07 - 8:25 pm | #
Okay, 'splain what he did Lucy.
An utterly specious distinction in this context.
Phila
Demonstrate that it is specious.
Meant to type "Hucksterbee". In fact the entire panel over there is over the edge.
Please!
Do I make tollhouse cookies or brownies?
These are the only things that matter, in the long run!
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Them's you's kittehs?
My sister's kittehs. They are Korats, so very small and slim.
Echidne | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 8:08 pm
I'm pretty sure that my Topaz is a Korat, though she doesn't have the green eyes:
http://pets.webshots.com/photo/
2...096501088TumuUZ
yes, while we are on the subject of Dawkins.
Unless that was a namestealer.
JR, not currently banned | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 8:29 pm | # [kill]
If you're talking about me trashing Dawkins at some point, I'm sure it wasn't a namestealer. I've always considered him a ninny, and have never been shy about saying it.
ummm,rootless, the article was about Guiliani.
It's a perfectly reasonable objection. The fact that you find a subject ridiculous doesn't ennoble shoddy research or thinking.
It's partly what Eschaton is about. If the media is going to cover politics and trivia, they could at least stop lying while they do it.
Do I make tollhouse cookies or brownies?
These are the only things that matter, in the long run!
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GWPDA
Brownies.
Add chopped candied ginger, it's fun!
I've always considered him a ninny, and have never been shy about saying it.
Phila
So it's OK to misrepresent what he said?
I'm idly reading the Bible, and pick up some on-point decency, and post it, and of a sudden everybody's fighting. Jeez.
Keep your eyes on the prize, people. Good folk can find justice and decency in the Old Testament, and concentrate their minds on that to the exclusion of the beheadings, stonings to death, genocides and like that beloved of others. The prize, and the poisoned chalice, aren't in the Bible, but in and amongst ourselves.
GWPDA,
How was the soup mit spinach in it?
ummm,rootless, the article was about Guiliani.
bo | 11.17.07 - 8:31 pm | #
I know, meant Hucksterbee. They are in a nutball competition.
Good folk can find justice and decency in the Old Testament, and concentrate their minds on that to the exclusion of the beheadings, stonings to death, genocides and like that beloved of others. The prize, and the poisoned chalice, aren't in the Bible, but in and amongst ourselves.
ProfWombat
of course it is, I never said otherwise.
Any book that discusses God by definition discusses theology.
Praise Odin!
Brownies.
Add chopped candied ginger, it's fun!
JR, not currently banned
Hunh. Hadn't considered this. I have some in the ice box door tho - I shall consider it now.
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It's partly what Eschaton is about. If the media is going to cover politics and trivia, they could at least stop lying while they do it.
It's why we all keep coming here.
Auntie: yes.
I'm seriously thinking it's time to spa.
Hunh. Hadn't considered this. I have some in the ice box door tho - I shall consider it now.
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GWPDA
Ever had candied ginger dark chocolates?
(Damn, Laura Secord's is closed for the night)
Hi Phila,
Hey your Friday Hope Blogging on Pax gave me a really interesting link
It was about the ruling that a guy who advocated violence toward abortion providers and how he had to take down personal information. I'm keeping that handy in case a certain radio station decides I'm fair game.
Thanks!
(Did you see how I got a Pax plug in there WITH a Phila FHB plug? It's because NTodds anti-Atrios rant works! So Atrios is actually doing NTodd a FAVOR by NOT linking to Pax, that way NTODD can rant here about it and get the coveted 53 visitors online to visit! Worked for me. Of course the 50,000 who read the blog and don't click on comments miss out, but to heck with them.
GWPDA,
How was the soup mit spinach in it?
bo |
It's for tomorrow.... I can't actually eat more than about one thing in a given day, and I'd already eaten. But I think it will be swell. I've got all the ingredients laid out and I'm looking forward to it.
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Demonstrate that it is specious.
JR, not currently banned | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 8:30 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
Well, first and foremost, because Dawkins focuses closely on the theological propositions of Christianity. And second, because Dawkins himself claims to be issuing judgments about theology per se (cf. page 33.)
So whining about his lack of scholorship on a subject that he wasn't even discussing *is* silly.
I've been rather annoyed by the argument by namedrop approach myself.
Make the arguments explicit. Don't say so and so is bad because he didn't mention Mr. X, if you're not going to tell us why Mr. X's words are even relevent.
Sallyh!
Ever had candied ginger dark chocolates?
(Damn, Laura Secord's is closed for the night)
JR, not currently banned |
Maybe. I'm thinking Money Lady may have sent them me at some point. They sound delicious....
So it's OK to misrepresent what he said?
JR, not currently banned | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 8:32 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
Demonstrate that I did.
My fucking problem with those fucking guys is that they saw it all as a vocation. It is not that. Understanding the Universe and striving to understand the Universe is the worst addiction one could have.
Demonstrate that I did.
Phila
When you said he was a racist.
It's the same accusation that was levelled at Cavalli-Sforza, for the same reasons.
Bo, may I get you a martini from the minibar?
Understanding the Universe and striving to understand the Universe is the worst addiction one could have.
Yes, but doing it via math is so much fun
Odin is a racist. And he is praised by many.
I've got half a roast boeuf sammitch I had leftover from yesterday. I think I'll eat it and go to bed.
Any objections?
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Please, Madame P.
I've been rather annoyed by the argument by namedrop approach myself.
It's not argument by namedrop; it's argument by appealing to, among other things, the history of ideas and the history of philosophy, and the expectation that authors who propose to write about important subjects should do their homework.
Yes, but doing it via math is so much fun
Do they have a metric tensor's anonymous?
Dr. J got any special sauce to put on that sammie?
Yes, but doing it via math is so much fun
Sallyh
have you seen this
The formalization of Gorton's Law: "In any discussion of sea life, no matter how rare, strange or disgusting, some knucklehead will always ask how well it goes with lemon or butter."
How is it that Federal Judges can belong to the Federalist Society without being sanctioned for violation of their oaths ?
Dr. J got any special sauce to put on that sammie?
HoneyBearKelly
cranbelly.
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When you said he was a racist.
I've never said any such thing. WTF are you on about?
You haven't got a fucking clue about how to cook a moist turkey, do you?
What about winning a presidential election? Got a clue about that?
pie
Brining. At least for turkey. Not quite sure what it takes to keep the MSM from being rubbery, dry and unpalatable.
Demonstrate that it is specious.
That is the point isn't it?
With theology, anything can be said about the spiritual, it's magic!
That scholarship is more masturbatory, than oenology reviews, or art history.
knucklehead will always ask how well it goes with lemon or butter."
JR, not currently banned
With capers or a little Italian parsley....
George Bush said he was a compassionate conservative, among other hilarious pronouncments, and people lapped it up. He got *elected*.
Why shouldn't we hold the dems to the same standard that people raved about in 2000?
Bush did exactly the opposite.
Any dem will do just just fine.
Among much else, Chandrasekhar took a ship from India to England, While on the voyage, he figured out the minimum mass (about 1.4 solar masses) a star needs to collapse into a black hole or a neutron star. He spent a lifetimg in astrophysics thereafter. And, at the conclusion of his life, he wrote a wonderful, detailed explication of Newton's Principia Mathematica for the modern reader, leaving no doubt as to either man's greatness...
and the expectation that authors who propose to write about important subjects should do their homework.
Phila
But Dawkins wasn't writing about theology. So he didn't "violate" your criteria.
"I've got half a roast boeuf sammitch I had leftover from yesterday. I think I'll eat it and go to bed.
Any objections?"
Yes, I neeeed it more, than you do and I'm a cute puppy.
I've never said any such thing. WTF are you on about?
Phila
The other night, something about "The Grasshopper's Tale". I was banned, so I only caught it in passing while looking for the NOVA webcast.
JR, ROFLMAO
"I've got half a roast boeuf sammitch I had leftover from yesterday. I think I'll eat it and go to bed.
Any objections?"
Yes, I neeeed it more, than you do and I'm a cute puppy.
Speeder T. Hound
Come and get it then, Puppy.
U know Arthur, dontcha?
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Hmmm. Doug Watts said he found some of Dawkins talk about race in "The Ancestor's Tale" troubling. I didn't get the impression he was calling him a racist, so much as kind of...insular, maybe. Or inattentive to tone.
I don't recall having an opinion on the passage, which is just as well since I've never read it.
There's no Scifi at the Ritz!
Quel horreur!
George Bush said he was a compassionate conservative, among other hilarious pronouncments, and people lapped it up. He got *elected*.
Remember "would most like to have a beer with"? It's now probably got the addendum "... get drunk and puke on."
Any objections?
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GWPDA
I don't see any mention of horseradish.
Not quite sure what it takes to keep the MSM from being rubbery, dry and unpalatable.
Gots a ways to go. But progress is being made.
I didn't know that about Pat Buchanan's brother.
Whoa.
Since when do grasshoppers have tails? Who do you think they are? Grendel's mama??? Silly!
I don't see any mention of horseradish.
JR, not currently banned
It's implied.
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I don't recall having an opinion on the passage, which is just as well since I've never read it.
Phila
Then I formally apologize.
Sallyh, have you selected a place for dinner yet?
Dawkins wasn't writing about theology
JR, here's how that argument seems to me:
Dawkins says that the Xtian conception of god (theology) makes no sense.
No, that's not what Xtian theology actually says.
Doesn't matter. Dawkins wasn't writing about theology.
Understanding the Universe and striving to understand the Universe is the worst addiction one could have.
Is it really more destructive than heroin?
Come and get it then, Puppy.
U know Arthur, dontcha?
In Montana, wolves, moose, bear, and mountain lions cowered before my mighty wagging tail, and roaring hello.
It's not argument by namedrop;
It is when you never actually give any context to the name you're mentioning. All too often, RMJ simply mentions a name I presume that we're supposed to be impressed by and then runs away.
I was heartened to read hear how terrible beowulf was. I really find that style of Rotoscoping annoying.
It's implied.
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GWPDA
Well, OK then. I withdraw my objection.
Yes, but doing it via math is so much fun
Do they have a metric tensor's anonymous?
Richard | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 8:41 pm | #
Yeah, that's true. Still, the name for it is interface addiction.
The other night, something about "The Grasshopper's Tale". I was banned, so I only caught it in passing while looking for the NOVA webcast.
To people here - watch the Nova Dover thing if you haven't.
In Montana, wolves, moose, bear, and mountain lions cowered before my mighty wagging tail, and roaring hello.
Speeder T. Hound
U ain't in Montana any more, scout. Learn to ring the bell.
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Is heroin the opiate of the masses???
The notion of storing candied ginger never occurred to me...
Diane, I believe we have selected Bona Corso on North Lake.
Dawkins says that the Xtian conception of god (theology) makes no sense.
No, that's not what Xtian theology actually says.
Doesn't matter. Dawkins wasn't writing about theology.
Finny
here's how I see it.
Belief and theology are two seperate things. Just becasue a Xian believes it doesn't make it thoeology.
I was name dropping in front of a friend about some famous rich person I worked with who went on to be wildly successful.
Here response, "Oh right, it was all you."
BURN!
But Dawkins wasn't writing about theology. So he didn't "violate" your criteria.
JR, not currently banned | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 8:44 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
Rather than say that you're completely full of shit, I'll innocently ask precisely what one has to do to be convicted of "writing about theology."
Evidently, it doesn't include critiquing it for using ill-defined terms like "substance," as Dawkins does in his dismissal of Arius in particular and theology in general.
The notion of storing candied ginger never occurred to me...
ProfWombat
U have many people in ur world. Those of us with fewer, learn to put away.
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Oh, right you did say mini bar. Where is you hanging out, Paree?
I was heartened to read hear how terrible beowulf was. I really find that style of Rotoscoping annoying.
spocko | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 8:48 pm | #
Beowolf had sex with Grendel's mama, and the dragon was their kid, which Beowolf killed.
PUKE. Total puke.
To people here - watch the Nova Dover thing if you haven't.
pie
It is now online.
U ain't in Montana any more, scout. Learn to ring the bell.
Scratching or knocking at a door won't do?
U ain't in Montana any more, scout. Learn to ring the bell.
Scratching or knocking at a door won't do?
Speeder T. Hound
Nah. That's why there's a long chain. Deal.
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The notion of storing Satan Spawn never occurred to me...
Fired Yanni's Taters
Among much else, Chandrasekhar took a ship from India to England, While on the voyage, he figured out the minimum mass (about 1.4 solar masses) a star needs to collapse into a black hole or a neutron star.
and he gained 6 pounds. Those buffets are amazing!
Sounds like, er, liberties were taken with the source in making 'Beowulf'...
Diane, I believe we have selected Bona Corso on North Lake.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Um, have you called to make reserves? The reason I say that is it seems to me that one of those restaurants 2 blocks north of Colorado Blvd has closed.
Understanding the Universe and striving to understand the Universe is the worst addiction one could have.
Is it really more destructive than heroin?
Culture of TrÜth | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 8:47 pm | #
Shooting up would be easy. I understand want and I understand need. I once smuggled drugs into a woman's prison for my girlfriend. Now, if that's not true love, I don't know what is.
Just becasue a Xian believes it doesn't make it thoeology.
Very true. BUT that's not fair in scholarship. A lot of people believe a lot of stupid things. It's a bit like if an alien criticized human science based on the average person's understanding of physics. If you want to criticize the Christian conception of God, it behooves (great word) you to find out what it actually is. Dawkins didn't bother, and that's where all the criticism comes from.
Rather than say that you're completely full of shit, I'll innocently ask precisely what one has to do to be convicted of "writing about theology."
To actually be writing about theology, and not claims made by theists.
Some theists claim that demons cause baldness. Dawkins didn't discuss the deep, historical arguments on that subject, either.
Sounds like, er, liberties were taken with the source in making 'Beowulf'...
ProfWombat | 11.17.07 - 8:52 pm | #
They took the source, ate it, shit it out and then flung it on the walls.
Diane, I shall try that, thank you!
Lacking anybody to take me out to dinner, I am going to adjourn to my beddy with this sammitch.
Be good.
It's better than the alternative.
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Learn to ring the bell.
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GWPDA, yclept bluidy irate | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 8:48 pm
Thanks for the disco ear worm.
If you want to criticize the Christian conception of God, it behooves (great word) you to find out what it actually is. Dawkins didn't bother, and that's where all the criticism comes from.
Finny
He did, though. By checking out what Christians (not Christian theologists) believe.
You check out the state of human physics by surveying physicists, not just Nobel winners.
All too often, RMJ simply mentions a name I presume that we're supposed to be impressed by and then runs away.
Richard | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 8:47 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
RMJ writes an extremely in-depth blog, with probably the longest average post lengths I've seen, in order to explain exactly what he means by virtually everything he's ever said here. Including very many things about the people whose names he's "dropped."
If he sometimes "runs away," maybe it's for other reasons than a lack of ability to argue the point.
Tenting a turkey is a sure way to keep it moist without basting it. The two ways I've done this is with either parchment paper, (though it's never as large of a sheet as you need it to be so splicing it with a few staples is ncessary) or with foil. With the later, you have to pull the foil off the last half hour to brown the skin. The paper method I think works better, the skin browns through it.
Ah, but does it behoove the devil? Or the cow?
Richard, I don't find that true about RMJ at all. He does work several jobs and hasn't much free time. His blog is well detailed.
And he doesn't attempt to do physics, seeing as that's not an area he's informed in
Sounds like, er, liberties were taken with the source in making 'Beowulf'...
I saw an ad about it being sexy.
My god. It was the most boring thing I ever read. Next to Piers Plowman.
Did like Chaucer though. And beyond.
Lacking anybody to take me out to dinner, I am going to adjourn to my beddy with this sammitch.
Rick Santorum was right!!!
and he gained 6 pounds. Those buffets are amazing!
Culture of TrÜth
rotaviruses on cruise ships weren't invented yet either
RMJ writes an extremely in-depth blog, with probably the longest average post lengths I've seen,
He and Greenwald must be related.
Tenting a turkey is a sure way to keep it moist without basting it.
No Turkey Left Behind
The animation in Beowolf wasn't as good as in Polar Express.
Naked Beowolf was alright, nice bum I guess, but the Angelina Jolie monster had some fucked up boobies.
pie: I loved Heaney's translation of 'Beowulf', which I thought moved fast enough and clearly enough that I'd give the book to a bright twelve year old.
And I've had a bit of a yen for the Wife of Bath for many years now...
Richard, I don't find that true about RMJ at all. He does work several jobs and hasn't much free time. His blog is well detailed.
Sallyh
Well, then he shouldn't make assertions *here* that he isn't willing to back up *here*.
And he doesn't attempt to do physics, seeing as that's not an area he's informed in
Well, I avoid discussing physics for the same reason. The quantum stuff is better than peyote....
Does it mean anything that the TV channel that I watch has heavy rotation ads for bailbonds?
My family actually likes non-moist turkey breast. Those among us who like drak meat are happy, as well.
enough about teapots. trash the msm.
And the WaPo:
The IAEA's report also confirmed that Iran has 3,000 centrifuges in operation, which is the minimum needed to enrich a significant amount of uranium and represents a tenfold increase over last year.
Every single one gives the implicit impression that it is the IAEA itself which has warned Iran could suddenly produce a nuke in a years time.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
The report mentions nothing whatsover about a timeline to produce enough highly enriched uranium to make a nuclear weapon - unsurprising since the report does say that Iran has only managed low-level enrichment barely adequate for reactor fuel so far, and that the 3,000 centrifuges are running way below capacity. Dr. Jeffrey Lewis and others have calculated 20% efficiency and suggest problems with contaminated feedstock - which means multiplying that timeline by five!
What the report does say is that all of the enriched uranium produced to date "remains under Agency containment and surveillance" and that the centrifuge cascades themselves are subjected to an annual audit by the IAEA and surpise inspections - seven have been carried out since March.
That means - it is impossible for Iran to use these 3,000 centrifuges and their product to secretly make a nuclear weapon.
You'd think honest reporters might actually mention that.
Tenting a turkey is a sure way to keep it moist without basting it.
you favour the tents over the FEMA trailers with the preservative action of formaldehyde gasses?
By checking out what Christians (not Christian theologists) believe.
So Arius isn't a Christian "theologist"? And his critique of theology as essentially meaning little or nothing, inasmuch as it's basically a subject without an object...that's not "writing about theology?
Se
To me, that seems obtuse to the point of incoherence. But such is life.
Does it mean anything that the TV channel that I watch has heavy rotation ads for bailbonds?
spocko
o.0
Does it mean anything that the TV channel that I watch has heavy rotation ads for bailbonds?
spocko
Local Fox affiliate?
his critique of theology as essentially meaning little or nothing, inasmuch as it's basically a subject without an object...that's not "writing about theology?
No more than discussing the non-existance of unicorns is unicornology.
Sallyh The CW!
Home of Smallville, and the late lamented Veronica Mars.
Tenting a turkey is a sure way to keep it moist without basting it.
Quadrupled thick cheescloth spread over the turkey while basting every half hour and pulling the cheese cloth off for the last hour works best.
If it is in "Joy of Cooking" it has to be right.
I really dislike discussions of theology, which I consider about as meaningful and useful as a discussion about elves and gnomes, but more sanctimonius and pissy.
But that's just me.
I loved Heaney's translation of 'Beowulf', which I thought moved fast enough and clearly enough that I'd give the book to a bright twelve year old.
I read it in high school and college. I think it's a guy thing.
But maybe I'll attempt it again.
Or not.
I go to RMJ's blog daily, post there nearly as often, and find myself treated there, invariably, with respect, as, almost invariably, I'm treated here.
His knowledge base and mine overlap, but differ widely. I don't know much about theology, can't say words like 'soteriology' with a straight face, and don't revere Derrida nor know his work all that well. Doesn't matter. I thoroughly enjoy learning stuff. It's why I come here, too. Hell, sometimes I think it's why I'm still alive.
Those advertisers aren't stupid.
Tenting a turkey is a sure way to keep it moist without basting it.
you favour the tents over the FEMA trailers with the preservative action of formaldehyde gasses?
No, tenting the leaking FEMA trailers keeps them from being recycled (moldering and rotting) into soil as quickly. It's not as green.
Discussing Newton's involvement of alchemy in a history of Newton doesn't require an in depth dissertaion of the subtle arguments of alchemists, either.
Oh yeah, the dragon wasn't just the son of Beowolf and Grendel's mother, the dragon was a were-dragon!!! The end reminded me of King Arthur and Mordred, 'cept it was stupider.
And Grendel's mama doesn't get her head chopped off. Stupid. I'm throwing out all my Sandman comics. I'd like to shoot Neil Gaiman in the face. Twice.
I go to RMJ's blog daily, post there nearly as often, and find myself treated there, invariably, with respect, as, almost invariably, I'm treated here.
I will do my damndest to call you a fucktard more often. I didn't mean to insult you by treating you with respect.
Turkeys whilst cooking need butter. Lots of it. A little white wine, too.
(for the bird as well as for the cook)
Well, then he shouldn't make assertions *here* that he isn't willing to back up *here*.
Oh, fuck you. First off, he's backed 'em up a million times. Second, people have every right to walk away from arguments that aren't going anywhere.
How long am I supposed to sit here bickering over your (to me) opportunistic and silly claim that Dawkins didn't concern himself with theology in "TGD"? Obviously, I'm going to give up at some point, and struggle bravely on with my life.
I thoroughly enjoy learning stuff. It's why I come here, too. Hell, sometimes I think it's why I'm still alive.
Every day of my life I become more appreciative of all that I don't know and of all the knowledge of the people around me.
But that's just me.
Sarah Deere
Well, it's not just you, and you asked a question the other night, but I don't know if you saw my answer.
About hunters and gatherers...
Religious discussion on a Saturday night...
I think I had a quick flashback of the George Michael "Faith" video while perusing. I'll keep the religious implications to myself...
pie | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 9:02 pm | #
Read "Grendel" you'll like it.
If it is in "Joy of Cooking" it has to be right.
It may be, but the tent method is better for the lazy man, who'd rather be snoozing, reading a book, or whatever else I feel like doing.
pie: I could see that it'd be a bit of a guy thing, and, in current sensibilities, probably more so. But do try Heaney's version; his essay accompanying it is worth the price of admission.
Tried 'Piers Plowman', out of a sense of obligation. Never got far, nor does recollecting it generate a yen to revisit it...
I read it in high school and college. I think it's a guy thing.
But maybe I'll attempt it again.
Or not.
pie | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 9:02 pm | #
The Heany translation is nice, but it is a traditional action movie plot: buddies, taunting, drunkeness, violence, a passing love interest, an evil enemy to die bloodily, some loot.
RMJ writes an extremely in-depth blog,
I've looked at it. I guess I'm somewhat less impressed with it than you are.
If he sometimes "runs away," maybe it's for other reasons than a lack of ability to argue the point.
If you're going to start an argument, you should be willing to carry it through at least to some extent. He never seems to here.
"It's so and so is a fool for not mentioning Mr. X!" and then bye bye.
Wait 'til Bobblespeak translates Beowulf.
Very true. BUT that's not fair in scholarship. A lot of people believe a lot of stupid things. It's a bit like if an alien criticized human science based on the average person's understanding of physics. If you want to criticize the Christian conception of God, it behooves (great word) you to find out what it actually is. Dawkins didn't bother, and that's where all the criticism comes from.
Finny | 11.17.07 - 8:53 pm | #
So you admit you're a God damn alien. Typical.
you asked a question the other night, but I don't know if you saw my answer.
About hunters and gatherers...
JR, not currently banned
you're right - I was off to my bed....can you repeat?
You'd think honest reporters might actually mention that.
1Watt, Hermit
Why, yes. Yes you would, but only if it were 10 to 15 years ago.
Now, the honest reporters are frozen out of the major markets and the big stories.
The quantum stuff is better than peyote....
I admit I am obssesed by the Everettian stuff. A couple of days ago I thought I was close to making Euphronius's brain leak out of his ears.
NTodd: assay on, brother; profane derogation from the lips of a low-born, canker'd whoreson nematode only sweetens the bubble reputation...
Discussing Newton's involvement of alchemy in a history of Newton doesn't require an in depth dissertaion of the subtle arguments of alchemists, either.
JR, not currently banned | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 9:04 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
It does to me. Or to put it another way, I would prefer to read a book that did than one that didn't.
Granting that it depends what you mean by "history," I will say that it's very difficult to understand early modern science and culture without understanding "the subtle arguments of alchemists."
I like Gardner's Grendel. Appeals to my inner misanthrope.
Today I and an accidental "audience" friends of a friend who came over. I went on and on and on about what I did about talk radio and what I'm doing and what I'm afraid of. I had a feeling I was sounding like a Mormon who finally got invited into a house to talk about The Angel Moroni.
It was nice to find out what they through of all this. They have backgrounds in theology and social justice so they appreciated it (but I think I talked their ears off, pent up demand to talk since I'm alone most of the time.)
Bo, as I tell Mlle, there's something to be said for complete misanthropism
It's why I come here, too. Hell, sometimes I think it's why I'm still alive.
You're so very cool and you have a life. Don't knock it.
I like to think of this place as support in times of trouble and sorrow, a rant zone, forgiveness for assholedness, and best of all celebration for the times life is sooooooooo good.
Good evening.
Is the discourse in here tonight too highbrow for me?
If so, I can certainly high-tail it outta here...
Good news/bad news: I finished the wine.
I've looked at it. I guess I'm somewhat less impressed with it than you are.
Whether you're impressed or not, the information you seek is there.
Bo, have some of ours. We're about to crack open a bottle.
you're right - I was off to my bed....can you repeat?
Sarah Deere
Well, the main thing is that there isn't really a seperation between "hunter" and "gatherer", and that hunting cultures aren't any more prone to selfishness than "gatherers".
Also, without mostly altruism a culture would die off in a big hurry.
the Angelina Jolie monster had some fucked up boobies.
annie
She is NOT aging well.
Is the discourse in here tonight too highbrow for me?
Surely you jest
NTodd: assay on, brother; profane derogation from the lips of a low-born, canker'd whoreson nematode only sweetens the bubble reputation...
ProfWombat
oooooooohhh!!!
I think I had a quick flashback of the George Michael "Faith" video while perusing. I'll keep the religious implications to myself...
You like his Wham! days better?
Is the discourse in here tonight too highbrow for me?
If so, I can certainly high-tail it outta here...
Zap Rowsdower | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 9:10 pm | #
It is the usual, as if Jefferson, Einstein, Emma Goldman, and Groucho Marx were sitting at a round table drinking ripple and snorting coke. Or something like that.
NTodd: assay on, brother; profane derogation from the lips of a low-born, canker'd whoreson nematode only sweetens the bubble reputation...
ProfWombat
Yeah, verily.
And, pie, I agree.
Lots of good people here...even if we all DON'T agree on everything.
I like to think of this place as support in times of trouble and sorrow, a rant zone, forgiveness for assholedness, and best of all celebration for the times life is sooooooooo good.
pie | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 9:10 pm
Don't forget the recipes!
I will say that it's very difficult to understand early modern science and culture without understanding "the subtle arguments of alchemists."
Phila
But doe it really matter to understanding Newton that 14th century Italian alchemists thought of mercury as feminine?
FUcked that up.
I meant to say:
YEA, verily.
NTodd: wake me up before you go-go...
One of my favorite songs just came on the radio: The Jayhawks: Blue.
(and sallyh, I surely do jest )
Oh, I just made that up, I have no what the 14th century Italian alchemical view of mercury was.
sallyh: ever read Mark twain's 'Letters from the Earth'? One of the great misanthropic rants ever: here's Satan, discussing earth:
This is a strange place, and extraordinary place, and interesting. There is nothing resembling it at home. The people are all insane, the other animals are all insane, the earth is insane, Nature itself is insane. Man is a marvelous curiosity. When he is at his very very best he is a sort of low grade nickel-plated angel; at is worst he is unspeakable, unimaginable; and first and last and all the time he is a sarcasm. Yet he blandly and in all sincerity calls himself the "noblest work of God." This is the truth I am telling you. And this is not a new idea with him, he has talked it through all the ages, and believed it. Believed it, and found nobody among all his race to laugh at it.
Moreover -- if I may put another strain upon you -- he thinks he is the Creator's pet. He believes the Creator is proud of him; he even believes the Creator loves him; has a passion for him; sits up nights to admire him; yes, and watch over him and keep him out of trouble. He prays to Him, and thinks He listens. Isn't it a quaint idea? Fills his prayers with crude and bald and florid flatteries of Him, and thinks He sits and purrs over these extravagancies and enjoys them. He prays for help, and favor, and protection, every day; and does it with hopefulness and confidence, too, although no prayer of his has ever been answered. The daily affront, the daily defeat, do not discourage him, he goes on praying just the same. There is something almost fine about this perseverance. I must put one more strain upon you: he thinks he is going to heaven!
He has salaried teachers who tell him that. They also tell him there is a hell, of everlasting fire, and that he will go to it if he doesn't keep the Commandments. What are Commandments? They are a curiosity.
http://www.positiveatheism.org/h...st/
twainlfe.htm
I like to think of this place as support in times of trouble and sorrow, a rant zone, forgiveness for assholedness, and best of all celebration for the times life is sooooooooo good.
pie | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 9:10 pm
Don't forget the recipes!
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
And the critters.
Having fallen on my wrist today, and completely fucked it up, I'm gonna stop typing now.
Richard and JR, I hope you know the argument here isn't personal. I like and respect both of you.
G'night.
I like to think of this place as support in times of trouble and sorrow, a rant zone, forgiveness for assholedness, and best of all celebration for the times life is sooooooooo good.
pie |
yes.
The Heany translation is nice, but it is a traditional action movie plot: buddies, taunting, drunkeness, violence, a passing love interest, an evil enemy to die bloodily, some loot.
Women were not going to get much focus in something written then.
And when it comes to all the things you mention, things haven't changed much.
You like his Wham! days better?
NTodd, On On WANDERSEXXX!
at least as much as his whacked days...
NTodd: assay on, brother; profane derogation from the lips of a low-born, canker'd whoreson nematode only sweetens the bubble reputation...
What the hell does that even mean, you goddamned snobby fuckwipe with delusions of erudition and a strange sexual attraction to underaged Mac keyboards?
NTodd: wake me up before you go-go...
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Or, in Larry Craig's case:
ZIP me up before you go-go.
Boy, if I could drink ripple with Emma Goldman...
without mostly altruism a culture would die off in a big hurry.
JR, not currently banned
this has been pointed out/validated in behavioral studies of the so-called "lesser" animals as well.
at least as much as his whacked days...
To be fair, he only did that in public once...
Richard and JR, I hope you know the argument here isn't personal. I like and respect both of you.
There is very, very little that I take personally.
You like his Wham! days better?
NTodd, On On WANDERSEXXX!
at least as much as his whacked days...
racymind
Guilty feet have got no rhythm.
Bo, have some of ours. We're about to crack open a bottle.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 11.17.07 - 9:11 pm
Can you send some down to my b-i-l and sister? They're going through a somewhat unpleasant divorce, and yesterday their 15 yr old son was kicked out of school for selling his meds to his friends.
I'm at a loss as to how to I respond, especially from 2/3 of the way across the country.
this has been pointed out/validated in behavioral studies of the so-called "lesser" animals as well.
Sarah Deere
.. and robots.
I've often felt that Einstein's special theory of relativity came as close to proving the existence of a supreme being as science will ever do.
E=mc2
If thought is energy then....
Let there be light.
Good evening.
Is the discourse in here tonight too highbrow for me?
If so, I can certainly high-tail it outta here...
Zap Rowsdower | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 9:10 pm | #
First, let me say what a lovely mouth you have. I certainly hope your tail is as high as you claim it to be.
But doe it really matter
Does matter to bucks.
C'mon, everyone knows Depeche Mode's "Personal Jesus" is the video you want to watch
Huh, Alchemy!
"On Divers Arts"
/Theophilus
*excerpt
Spanish gold
There is also a gold named Spanish gold which is compounded from red copper , basilisk powder, human blood and vinegar. The heathens who's skill in this are commendable create basilisks for themselves in this way;
They have a dungeon walled with stones on the top and the bottom and on all sides with two tiny windows so small that scarcely anything can be seen through them. Into this they put two cocks, twelve or fifteen year old, and give them plenty of food when..."
But doe it really matter
Does matter to bucks.
NTodd
Oh deer, I sense a pun war. I should hoof it.
pie | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 9:14 pm | #
Read the Sagas of the Icelanders. They were written down a bit later than Beowolf, but they go back in time and the women rock.
And read the Anglo-Saxon Chronicles, some of those women kick ass, literally.
Buckeye, I'm so sorry. I have an awareness of some of what you're going through.
Join me in Death By Minibar.
They're going through a somewhat unpleasant divorce, and yesterday their 15 yr old son was kicked out of school for selling his meds to his friends.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
Jeezus...double whammy!
Come on JR, tell us a tail.
Women were not going to get much focus in something written then.
And when it comes to all the things you mention, things haven't changed much.
pie | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 9:14 pm | #
The icelandic sagas have more worked out female characters although they seem realistic - as nasty, fucked up, vengeful, and crazy as the men.
They have a dungeon walled with stones on the top and the bottom and on all sides with two tiny windows so small that scarcely anything can be seen through them. Into this they put two cocks, twelve or fifteen year old, and give them plenty of food when..."
Doug
mark Foley is into alchemy?
ever read Mark twain's 'Letters from the Earth'? One of the great misanthropic rants ever
First read it my frosh year of highschool for The Heretics Society that NTodd's Pa's Wife used to take me to. That woman really made me experience a lot of different mind-expanding shit. Fat lot of good that did!
And the critters.
Terry C - Democratic Bitch
Thanks for the segue, Terry C.
I just put up Bonus Critter Blogging.
During the month of November I've been featuring animal rescue organizations. This week it's the saints who care what happens to greyhounds after their racing careers are over.
E=mc2
As an old commercial theorized: Entertainment = More Cable.
Not sure what they thought should be squared...
Oh deer, I sense a pun war. I should hoof it.
Perhaps you should ruminate a bit first.
But doe it really matter to understanding Newton that 14th century Italian alchemists thought of mercury as feminine?
JR, not currently banned | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 9:14 pm | # [kill]
Something like that would matter, IMO, to the extent that it mattered to him.
Obviously, you never understand Newton. Wherever you stop, you're stopping short. But to the extent that he was influenced one way or another by that kind of theory...I see it as important. You can understand something about Kepler without reading his correspondence with Fludd, or studying the harmony of the spheres. But you'll understand him much more if you do study that stuff. Simply calling it stupid, or erroneous, isn't good enough, IMO.
Out for real, or I'll be crippled for life.
Come on JR, tell us a tail.
spocko
Sorry, I'm in a rut.
Did someone say "Icelandic"?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K...h?
v=Kdp9M9tJx1I
I'm at a loss as to how to I respond....
No you're not......the way to respond is to express you never ending love and support for all involved and to let them know that you will always be there for them. All they need to do is call if they need anything.
And read the Anglo-Saxon Chronicles, some of those women kick ass, literally.
annie
Of course they did.
It was just getting them into the literature. But thanks.
Come on JR, tell us a tail.
Sorry, you only get 5 points for such an obvious pun.
Perhaps you should ruminate a bit first.
NTodd
Obviously, many are called, but fewmets are chosen.
Bad news/good news: discovered the last of the halloween candy.
Oh deer, I sense a pun war. I should hoof it.
Perhaps you should ruminate a bit first.
NTodd, On On WANDERSEXXX! |
stop staring at my rack!
mark Foley is into alchemy?,
No that is a translation of a medieval alchemy text. Some of the info inside is useful, such as how to set up a workshop, but the recipes on metals? They didn't have a clue.
Thanks for the segue, Terry C.
I just put up Bonus Critter Blogging.
During the month of November I've been featuring animal rescue organizations. This week it's the saints who care what happens to greyhounds after their racing careers are over.
Diane C. Barking-Mad
What lovely doggies!
There are three or four people in the town where I live who have adopted retired racing greyhounds.
All have adopted pairs.
A lady who lives in the next town over is involved in greyhound rescue so I think these folks all went through her organization to adopt their dogs.
I'm not much of a believer, but I was completely, totally astounded, and still am, by Euler's famous formula
exp (pi*i) + 1 = 0
Made my fourteen year old jaw drop, as no single thing I'd learned up 'til then had...
The icelandic sagas have more worked out female characters although they seem realistic - as nasty, fucked up, vengeful, and crazy as the men.
Things haven't changed much...
Buckeye, I'm so sorry. I have an awareness of some of what you're going through.
Join me in Death By Minibar.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 11.17.07 - 9:18 pm | #
Death by minibar and chocolate.
They're going through a somewhat unpleasant divorce, and yesterday their 15 yr old son was kicked out of school for selling his meds to his friends.
Jeezus...double whammy!
Terry C - Democratic Bitch | 11.17.07 - 9:19 pm
On the positive side, my 21 yr old neice is the sane one, but I didn't realize my nephew was having so many problems.
He's a smart kid, but right now he hates his mother, and is obviously having plenty of 'issues'.
You can understand something about Kepler without reading his correspondence with Fludd, or studying the harmony of the spheres. But you'll understand him much more if you do study that stuff.
Absolutely. To know Kepler is to understand his transformation from astrologer to what we'd consider a modern astronomer, as well as his willingness to throw away his cherished ideas when his observations demonstrated they were wrong. That makes his laws of planetary motion even more elegant and awe-inspiring to me.
The icelandic sagas have more worked out female characters although they seem realistic - as nasty, fucked up, vengeful, and crazy as the men.
rootless-e
Freydis Eriksdatter, Queen Asa, Aud...
I just saw and IBM commercial in which the techno guy said he had created an avatar and an island and how innovative it was. But the business guy who came on the island (with glasses and kind of pointy haired boss hair) asked how are you going to use it. The techno-nerd said, "But it's innovative!" "The point of innovation is to make money."
I really want to get this commercial. And I want to capture it word for word. Because that is an attitude that drives me nuts.
.. and robots.
JR, not currently banned |
really...?
stop staring at my rack!
Cud you be any ruder to an admirer?
Why didn't I fucking ask Zapette to pick me up some beer before she left?
Dag.
A lady who lives in the next town over is involved in greyhound rescue so I think these folks all went through her organization to adopt their dogs.
Terry C - Democratic Bitch
May that lady live long and prosper.
Absolutely. To know Kepler is to understand his transformation from astrologer to what we'd consider a modern astronomer,
NTodd
Obviously correct, but there's only so far you can take analogies.
Dawkins was talking about the modern presentation of Xianity by modern Xians.
To understand astomony you don't have to delve into astrology. I don't recall any mention of triunes and sunsigns in Sharp's Galaxies.....
I really want to get this commercial. And I want to capture it word for word. Because that is an attitude that drives me nuts.
Well, for IBM, innovation is about monetizing things. If they simply innovate without generating revenue, they don't exist as a company. That's why they've got 8 gajillion patents and fiercely guard their IP.
I should hoof it.
It behoofs you to.
stop staring at my rack!
Cud you be any ruder to an admirer?
NTodd, On On WANDERSEXXX! |
I'll be nicer for five bucks... no not your paper money...
NTodd: assay on, brother; profane derogation from the lips of a low-born, canker'd whoreson nematode only sweetens the bubble reputation...
ProfWombat
oooooooohhh!!!
Sarah Deere
seconded.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins and Sallyh and anyone else,
did this happen as much in the "past"? I'm in my 63rd yr, and I just don;t remember so many kids w/so many horrible problems. Maybe it's just precisely because I am old and am unable to see own past clearly.
I'm at a loss as to how to I respond....
No you're not......the way to respond is to express you never ending love and support for all involved and to let them know that you will always be there for them. All they need to do is call if they need anything.
Shared Humanity | 11.17.07 - 9:20 pm
Which is what I did, emailed the bil and left a voice mail (my sister's not into returning messages).
Besides I don't think anyone but Newton understood what he was trying to do with his alchemical work, and where he hoped to go with it.
Obviously correct, but there's only so far you can take analogies.
I take them as far as Mos Eisley...
Arg...not Sharp (my memory is severly fucked tonight)... Shapley.
stop staring at my rack!
racymind
---------
You think that you have a nice rack? That just staggers my mind. Now I expect you'll want me to fawn all over you. Forget about it. I'm off to dinner at the Venice Inn. It's buck 99 night on well drinks. I don't have time for this, gotta bolt.
A lady who lives in the next town over is involved in greyhound rescue so I think these folks all went through her organization to adopt their dogs.
Terry C - Democratic Bitch
May that lady live long and prosper.
Diane C. Barking-Mad
Every few months, they have beef and beer things at the fire hall.
Benefit of the Greyhound Rescue Organization.
The attendance is good.
I'll be nicer for five bucks... no not your paper money...
Giving you my hart is not enough?
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins and Sallyh and anyone else,
did this happen as much in the "past"? I'm in my 63rd yr, and I just don;t remember so many kids w/so many horrible problems. Maybe it's just precisely because I am old and am unable to see own past clearly.
Sarah Deere | 11.17.07 - 9:27 pm
I don't know-I could probably do a lit search when I get back to work, or ask our psych residents.
With my nephew's case, his mom (my middle sister) had all sorts of issues when she was his age, though I don't remember her being on meds- could be wrong.
I'm reading a book called 1421 by Gavin Menzies...anyone read it? Is it crap or is there truth to it??
Whether you're impressed or not, the information you seek is there.
My unimpressed opinion was formed in large part by an instance where he name dropped here, and then said go look at my blog for a discussion of so and so and Mr. X. Certainly, he had more to say, but ultimately it still amounted to so and so is bad because he doesn't mention Mr. X, at least in that instance.
That's why they've got 8 gajillion patents and fiercely guard their IP.
NTodd
They didn't guard their IP on the PC...
Anyone want to hit the Commercial Club Bar with me? I think they might be having a meat raffle tonight...
Come on JR, tell us a tail.
Sorry, you only get 5 points for such an obvious pun.
NTodd, On On WANDERSEXXX! | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 9:21 pm | #
I've long been interested in NTodd's tail. Is it true? Does NTodd depilate?
I'm reading a book called 1421 by Gavin Menzies...anyone read it? Is it crap or is there truth to it??
annie
Crap
and I just don;t remember so many kids w/so many horrible problems.
You didn't teach or do social work, did you?
It's always been like this. You're just hearing about it more, perhaps.
But for every bad story, there are untold good stories.
Life is a bitch sometimes.
BRB, must w-a-l-k the d-o-g
That's why they've got 8 gajillion patents and fiercely guard their IP.
NTodd, On On WANDERSEXXX
Oh, I know. I also know the opposite, I worked with Xerox at one time.
"Hey we can come out with the first color laser printer ever!"
"But will it work with this, this and this and what does this, this, and this group have to say about it?"
The printer never saw the light of day.
Oops. I'm sure that I've Larry Craig will respond to my question in the affirmative...
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins | 11.17.07 - 9:27 pm | #
Your b i l and sister are lucky to have you in their lives.
JR, not currently banned | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 9:31 pm | #
Total??
gotta run... somebody spread some corn out
If I don't have the hart for ungulate puns, maybe I should moosey along.
I also know the opposite, I worked with Xerox at one time.
Ah, the folks who would market sushi as "cold, raw, dead fish."
having a meat raffle tonight...
prostitutes on parade???????
The printer never saw the light of day.
I saw some of the first prints from those machines. They weren't too good by todays standards, but compared with what was sold then, they were amazing.
Total??
annie
Well, the Chinese exist, and they had ships back then, and they did sail around a bit.
The Americas? No.
I would adopt a greyhound but I read they have to be leashed or they run away and I think it would be throw a ball around with a dog.
Of course Tiger wouldn't permit another pet so the question is moot.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins | 11.17.07 - 9:27 pm | #
Your b i l and sister are lucky to have you in their lives.
Shared Humanity | 11.17.07 - 9:32 pm
My sister was very lucky to have my brother-in-law in her life.
Sadly, she screwed it up.
I hope at some point she gets her act back together, for her sake, for her son's sake, and for the sake of her sisters, who love her very much and want her back.
though I don't remember her being on meds- could be wrong.
Meds. Now that would cause some unexpected heartache.
fresh sheets
the folks who would market sushi as "cold, raw, dead fish
The folks who said, "Oh hey Steve! Woz! There's like a zillion dollars clogging up a lab in here. You want to shovel it out?"
I'm reading a book called 1421 by Gavin Menzies...anyone read it? Is it crap or is there truth to it??
Is that the one where the Chinese discovered Las Vegas or where DaVinci shot John Lennon?
How 'bout some Daft Punk to rock a Saturday night?
With my nephew's case, his mom (my middle sister) had all sorts of issues when she was his age, though I don't remember her being on meds- could be wrong.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
perhaps it's the introduction of the meds, as early as grade school. I don't know. Maybe there were fewer options, and kids just suffered in silence, unconnected, unassisted. I just don't know - any more than I know what caused my g'daughter to be afflicted with a terminal cancer that took - once we were aware of it - six short months to kill her. Why? What caused it? I have afriend who has a son who turned completely self-destructively nuts at about age 14. He's still digging out from that, and will never be what even I would consider "normal" or functional.
I had a friend that adopted a greyhound, took it outside, it saw a rabbit, dog last seen headed east.
JR, not currently banned | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 9:34 pm | #
Have you read The New View Over Atlantis?
I like the maps in 1421, the Kangnido map is cool, but I thought from other books I've read that Africa had been circumnavigated long before that anyway, and that the Phoenicians had found the Cape Verde Islands but they were then forgotten for a long time.
It's always been like this. You're just hearing about it more, perhaps.
But for every bad story, there are untold good stories.
Life is a bitch sometimes.
pie |
no, you are right - I have neither taught nor done social work. All I had to go by was my n'hood and the people I knew in grade school through high school. And, yeah, there was shit - but there wasn't *killing* shit. That I knew of.
Culture of TrÜth | Homepage | 11.17.07 - 9:36 pm | #
It's the one where the Chinese guy had sex with Grendel's mother and fathered Gilgamesh.
Murtha 08!
i don't think it is confusing courage with cowardice,
just confusing stuff, whatever that is they think the stuff iss, with C.Y.A.
C.Y.A is potent, and is a confusing intoxin.
GLTAL.
BFF
ABTWIMFU
Haven't we reached the point of hanging our leaders on telephone poles yet?
It's just catching them that's the hard part.