HULK SMASHED
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Hell, 5 years...
Pundits: This is excellent news for Republicans.
That is so gay (not that there's anything wrong with that ...)
Welcome aboard, CA!
[a buddy in MA]
The pundits are wrong this time.
I am seeing a sea change in American politics. Voters are no longer buying the Repuke talking points and red herring issues like abortion and gay marriage.
Unfortunately, it took a crashing economy to wake the voters up.
The Repukes will try to gay-bash again this fall but it won't work.
And I hope the media points up the fact that many Repukes are hypocrites on this issue because they are closet cases themselves.
The White House is full of them, including the Oval Office.
OT repost: oh my, the Duggars might have some competition - Chloe, Jade, Lewis, Ben, Kimberley, Cameron, Orlando, Amee, Natalie, Chris, Nathan, Celeste, Olias - meet the Simpson kids
Deborah and Derek have 13 children - and they want more. Decca Aitkenhead meets them
extract: Were you to put all the kids from six average families in one house, you still wouldn't have as many as Derek and Deborah Simpson. With 13, aged from two to 21, Deborah has now been pregnant for 117 months - almost 10 years of her life. They spend between £600 and £700 at the supermarket every week, and pocket money alone works out at £240 a month. When the whole family goes on holiday together, they have to hire a bus, and if Deborah and Derek ever get a whole uninterrupted hour together in the evening, they laugh that it's the equivalent of most people's two-week summer holiday.
"A lot of women have come up to me and said, 'I've got two and I can't wait for them to be grown up and out my hair,'" Deborah marvels, wide-eyed. "I just think that's sad. I can't even imagine feeling that because I enjoy every single minute of them. We just love babies."
Deborah and Derek love them so much, in fact, that they are now trying for their 14th.
this will all seem so stupid
It already does.
So what about that mayor of New Platz, NY? NYS doesn't seem to want to follow his lead. Law & Order even made an episode concerning it. Of course they had to include a murder to make it a decent Law and Order plot.
When Mildred Loving passed away recently, I was deeply moved by a quotation from her:
Surrounded as I am now by wonderful children and grandchildren, not a day goes by that I don't think of Richard and our love, our right to marry, and how much it meant to me to have that freedom to marry the person precious to me, even if others thought he was the "wrong kind of person" for me to marry. I believe all Americans, no matter their race, no matter their sex, no matter their sexual orientation, should have that same freedom to marry. Government has no business imposing some people's religious beliefs over others. Especially if it denies people's civil rights.
I am still not a political person, but I am proud that Richard's and my name is on a court case that can help reinforce the love, the commitment, the fairness, and the family that so many people, black or white, young or old, gay or straight seek in life. I support the freedom to marry for all. That's what Loving, and loving, are all about.
Newsom's actions were derided by many at the time as just a stunt. Perhaps it was. But it ultimately led to this week's ruling.
Since NTodd's not around, I'll note that there is often value in doing SOMETHING, even if, at the time, you're not sure how it's going to all play out. "Stunts" and "symbolic gestures" aren't enough, but they're often a good place to start.
Plenty of my gay and lesbian friends have mixed feelings about marriage being the centerpiece of the gay rights movement, especially as it crowds out everything else. I can understand that, but nonetheless
This implies that your gay and lesbian friends who have mixed feelings about marriage being the centerpiece of the gay rights movement don't understand the importance of this step toward making gays and lesbians equal under law, which, by the way is the default assumption. People are presumed to be equal before the law, aren't they?
Surrounded as I am now by wonderful children and grandchildren, not a day goes by that I don't think of Richard and our love, our right to marry, and how much it meant to me to have that freedom to marry the person precious to me, even if others thought he was the "wrong kind of person" for me to marry.
Clarence Thomas version:
I got to marry a white woman. I see no reason why other blacks should have this right.
This day in history: Brown v Bd of Educations decided May 17, 1954.
Blame my cat for that unnecessary s.
Maybe I'm a concern troll, but I find it suspicious that there is always one of these type of decisions right before an election.
"Deborah and Derek love them so much, in fact, that they are now trying for their 14th."
Catholics or Mormons??
Either way they're fucking idiots.
It already does.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 11:13 am | #
Indeed. It's no different than the laws against miscegenation, which if memory serves weren't struck down until the 60s. I think maybe a week went by before those laws seemed like a bizarre relic of another eon...
Willendorf Venus --
The first black heavyweight champion of boxing, Jack Johnson, when criticized for marrying a white woman, said, "I am a free man and I have the right to marry whomever I want."
I may be a celibate, but that just means I have the right to choose not to marry!
I think maybe a week went by before those laws seemed like a bizarre relic of another eon...
You would know, eon boy.
"This day in history: Brown v Bd of Educations decided May 17, 1954."
Those darn activist judges!! The Republican party would love to overturn that decision.
Maybe I'm a concern troll, but I find it suspicious that there is always one of these type of decisions right before an election.
The Kenosha Kid | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 11:17 am | #
Agreed....
Backers of a proposed November ballot measure constitutionally banning same-sex marriage said the court’s decision would help their cause by energizing voters.
Twenty-six states have approved constitutional amendments banning same-sex marriage. Courts in New York, Maryland and Washington state have refused to allow gay marriage. New Jersey’s highest court gave the state lawmakers the option of establishing civil unions as an alternative. Massachusetts is the only other state to legalize gay marriage, also by judicial decision.
What are the prospects for passage of a constitutional amendment removing equal protection for gays and lesbians in California?
Clarence Thomas version:
I got to marry a white woman. I see no reason why other blacks should have this right.
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ | 05.17.08 - 11:16 am | #
I have no doubt he is as angry and bitter about his marriage as he is about everything else.
It will seem stupid in 25 years? It seems so stupid now. I hate California's Initiative system--legislators wimp out and leave tough decisions to mob rule. We ought to flood the ballot with even more stupid Constitutional Amendments, like the amendment to enslave any Californian who voted to re-elect the criminals in the White House, or to make it unconstitutional to permit science denying creationist to rent or own property.
The couple never planned on having a big family when they got together in their late teens. Deborah nearly died giving birth to their first child, and they thought they would never have another.
"But," she says, "it has always just come to a point, when they get a little bit bigger, when we say, 'Oh, we'd love to have another one.' We never really discussed it - we just hoped it would happen. And it did."
After their fourth arrived, relatives began to ask if they didn't think that was enough. Neither comes from a particularly big family - Deborah was one of two, Derek one of four - and there was no religious motivation for keeping going. Softly spoken and self-effacing, they seem entirely conventional and their children's names have faithfully followed the prevailing fashions, starting with Chloe and Kimberly and ending with Jade and Orlando. They are, however, formidably determined to prove it is possible to have a big family without letting standards slip.
http://
lifeandhealth.guardian.co...2280592,00.html
TKK,
I don't think this was an attempt to influence the election, even though most of the judges were Republican appointees. The opinion's well-written and based firmly on precedent and the Cal. constitution. If anything, the timing could be due to the fact that a lot of judicial clerks end their year about now and courts like to get big opinions out so the new clerks won't have to pick the case up in the middle.
I may be a celibate, but that just means I have the right to choose not to marry!
But now you have the right not to marry a black woman. One hundred years ago you did not have the right not to marry a black woman.
"Either way they're fucking idiots.
HULK"
Well, yes -- if they weren't fucking, they would have to adopt.
Those darn activist judges!! The Republican party would love to overturn that decision.
HULK | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 11:18 am | #
They would love to overturn everything since the Enlightenment.
Divine Right of Kings, bitches!!!!
Maybe I'm a concern troll, but I find it suspicious that there is always one of these type of decisions right before an election.
The Kenosha Kid | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 11:17 am | #
Agreed....
steve hussein simels | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 11:19 am | #
I'm sure some case by an atheist flag burner that has been lost in the docket will suddenly pop up at the SC.
What are the prospects for passage of a constitutional amendment removing equal protection for gays and lesbians in California?
Apostate
They care less about winning and more about getting out their voters, don't you think, which goes to TKK's concern about the timing of the court's decision since it then made the fall constitutional ballot initiative "necessary".
make it unconstitutional to permit science denying creationist to rent or own property.
Ken Cope | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 11:19 am | #
That actually makes a lot of sense to me...
Clarence Thomas version:
I got to marry a white woman. I see no reason why other blacks should have this right.
leibniz leibkins
Slappy married a white woman because he was inspired by Long Dong Silver's "Black on White" series.
We promise -- no stupid.
Hopefully California voters don't bring on the stupid in November...
Maybe the ol' Perfesser knew what he was talking bout after all. I mean, if anyone knows stupid...
Right Wing Wingnut Ballot Measure for the 2010 elections:Ban Gay Divorce.
"But now you have the right not to marry a black woman. One hundred years ago you did not have the right not to marry a black woman.
leibniz leibkins"
Yeah, but I could have raped her or set her up as my mistress and nobody would have said a thing as long as I was discreet and didn't publicly embarrass my wife.
maybe we'll get a decision in Tejas on the state denial of degree granting to a creationist "university".
I'd just be happy if we could keep the Cretinists out of the public schools.
Our kids are being dumbed down enough already without this Flintstones Science bullshit.
Yeah, but I could have raped her or set her up as my mistress and nobody would have said a thing as long as I was discreet and didn't publicly embarrass my wife.
Then you could have become a Republican US Senator.
i'd like a ballot measure to require stoning to death of any unfaithful husband or divorced person who claims to be a biblical literalist. Give them what they want.
They would love to overturn everything since the Enlightenment.
Bring on the Endarkenment!
I'd like to see any gay-bashing closet case Repukes to go to prison.
Naah, they'd like that. All the penis they can suck, all day long.
Compare the InstaParrot's legal thinking to that of the folks over at Balkinization
:::Today's California Supreme Court decision is certainly momentous, and worthy of celebration, for obvious reasons. It will, I think, come to be seen as part of the grand tradition of that Court, as exemplified by its bold 1948 decision in Perez v. Sharp, which prompted numerous states to abandon their anti-miscegenation laws, eventually leading to Loving v. Virginia. But wholly apart from the particular holding on same-sex marriage -- which is plenty important in and of itself, even if it has only a third of the precedential effect that Perez had -- it strikes me that the most significant legal development in the Court's decision is that it is (to my knowledge) the first time any state or federal court of last resort has held that discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation is suspect and thus subject to strict scrutiny under a constitutional equal protection clause. See pages 95-101 of the majority opinion.:::
Then you could have become a Republican US Senator.
HULK
Not in that outfit, he couldn't.
I support gay marriage wholeheartedly.
It's only fair, they should be made to suffer as much as I did.
8^)
going up to baghdad by the bay in a couple of hours via I-5; maybe the roses will be at city hall.
last time I went to CH in SF it was to protest the shock and awe thing five years ago.
baghdad by the bay--yea, that used to be the sobriquet made famous by revered SF columnist Herb Caen.
Baghdad by the Bay. I dont think it is in much use these days, but I will ask.
It is a wonderful and fine place and we will also spend some time in the east bay, where the other daughter lives--she graduates Monday.
OK -- they are ringing bells -- gotta go bats -- I might pass through from time to time this afternoon as I work on tomorrow's sermon
Ted Kennedy rushed to hospital -- stroke symptoms
bye for now moonbats 
It is a wonderful and fine place and we will also spend some time in the east bay, where the other daughter lives--she graduates Monday.
peterboy
Congratulations again to you and your daughter, peterboy!
What I liked best in the opinion was the suggestion that, of course, California could limit gays to civil unions, as long as it limited heterosexuals, likewise. Which, to be honest, would be my choice, but you know isnt going to happen.
Ted Kennedy going to Mass General Hosp. from local clinic in Hyannisport -- exhibiting signs of stroke.
BTW re: Caen's Baghdad by the Bay--makes me wonder just how beautiful the original must have been. SF may be the loveliest city on the planet.
Ted Kennedy rushed to hospital -- stroke symptoms
Where did you hear that?
Ted Kennedy rushed to hospital -- stroke symptoms
Countdown to ugly troll comments in 5, 4, 3, 2, . . . . .
CNN has breaking Ted Kennedy news -- it does not sound good.
The state has no business being in the marriage business. On this one point, I am libertarian.
Does anyone know anything about Thers?
They care less about winning and more about getting out their voters, don't you think, which goes to TKK's concern about the timing of the court's decision since it then made the fall constitutional ballot initiative "necessary".
I think they want to use it as a "wedge issue" for electoral reasons, and that they also want to deny equal protection to gays and lesbians. In at least 26 of 50 states, gays and lesbians no longer have equal protection under the law.
What Newsom did wasn't a stunt. it was a political act committed by an actual politician. Soemthing far rarer than hen's teeth. A friend of mine married his boyfriend in those feew heady happy days in San Frabncisco at the insistence of their children.
My favorite image, which I can't find on the net at the moment, is of a couple of guys, resplendent in their tuxedos, running down the city hall steps with big smiles and their faces having just been married, and in their hand they were holding paltes with big pieces of wedding cake on them. Man did I ever want to go to that reception!
What Newsom did was what few in politics ever so much as dare to try -- make people happy.
Does anyone know anything about Thers?
Molly wrote last night that Thers is going to Reveal his Dark news, um, imminently.
Does anyone know anything about Thers?
Molly wrote last night that Thers is going to Reveal his Dark news, um, imminently.
Apostate
Please, this is humor, right?
Does anyone know anything about Thers?
ellroon
I am wondering if the video link on the post is a clue. I can't understand what the dood is singing about, but he has some mighty fine hair.
And to conclude, let's quote the words of one of the Greatest Living Homosexuals:
"Marry me a little
Love me just enough
Cry but not too often
Play but not too rough
Keep a tender distance
So we'll both be free
That's the way it ought to be
I'm ready
I'm ready
To me it doesn't matter if
The action was a stunt;
The only one who really knows
Is Newsom, so I'll punt.
Much more important, and more fun,
Regarding Gavin Newsom,
Is what he did the wingnuts found
So maddeningly gruesome.
CNN reporting Ted Kennedy has stroke-like symptoms and is being transferred by helicopter to Mass General.
CNN sez Kennedy on Medevac flight from Cape Cod to MGH.
Please, this is humor, right?
Well, Molly didn't seem concerned. I expect it's crazy rightwing behavior being mocked somehow.
What Newsom did was what few in politics ever so much as dare to try -- make people happy.
David made me cry.
Rove criticized Obama in an NRA speech.
heh.
"We here have news for Barack Obama," Rove said. "The values of those people you diminished are the values of America. And those people don't like getting patronized, or viewed as an alien species, by a fellow who pretends to embody a new kind of politics, and especially by someone who wants to be president not of red states or blue states, but the United States."
Good. Keep it up, you little sissy. Dig that hole.
"Molly wrote last night that Thers is going to Reveal his Dark news, um, imminently."
Please, this is humor, right?
He was making noises about him and his family being in eminent danger.
I'm hoping this is just lout bad gallows humor myself.
Mr. McGuire: I want to say two words to you. Just two words.
Benjamin: Yes, sir.
Mr. McGuire: Are you listening?
Benjamin: Yes, I am.
Mr. McGuire: Divorce law.
Benjamin: Just how do you mean that, sir?
And to conclude, let's quote the words of one of the Greatest Living Homosexuals:
"Marry me a little
Love me just enough
Cry but not too often
Play but not too rough
Keep a tender distance
So we'll both be free
That's the way it ought to be
I'm ready
I'm ready
David Ehrenstein | Homepage | 05.17.08 - 11:38 am | #
Dave, get real. There are no gay Jews.
"eminent danger"?
Speaking of crazy rightwing humor, I'm a capitalist.
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Rove criticized Obama in an NRA speech.
Rove has done more, single-handedly, to ensure a Democratic victory this Fall than any other person on the planet. Keep it up, Karl.
All you Obama-robotic worshippers who feel he can do no wrong should ask your jesus-god-hero-walking-among-us-savior whether he will continue to punk Mayor Newsom because of this important decision and continue to refuse to be photographed with him....
Please report back on what the almighty king has to say....
Many of here in SF remain very disappointed in Barak's actions on this.
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Dave, get real. There are no gay Jews
Can a gay mormon have more than one "wife"?
BUT BUT... "People won't come here to vacation anymore if we let the queers marry each other."
/Overheard in diner the morning GM became legal in MA.
(Still plenty of goddamned tourists, and the sky has yet to fall...)
"eminent danger"?
That goes down with "feint of heart" in the Eschaton typo poetry collection. all my typos are pedestrian, sadly.
Yea, but we've got teh gay marriage up here in the frozen north, and look at the horrible things that have happened as a result!
Rove has done more, single-handedly, to ensure a Democratic victory this Fall than any other person on the planet. Keep it up, Karl.
My thoughts exactly. Note that Rover was doing what he always does - attacking the other side for stuff he's responsible for:
The values of those people you diminished are the values of America
Fuck you Karl. We're coming after you. You can run but you can't ghide.
oh yay a concern troll
Many of here in SF remain very disappointed in Barak's actions on this.
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SF, bitches | 05.17.08 - 11:45 am |
While many more of us here in the real world believe you're a Republican concern troll, and, possibly, a mongrel idiot.
So it all kind of works out...
i wish someone would ask Rover about his Dad's values.
Good morning, friends.
I found this on one of my RootsWeb.com mailing lists.
Needless to say, many of us were appalled. This organization sounds like many of today's Repugs except for the part about their supporting the separation of church and state:
"In 1845 the Union of Workers was founded in Philadelphia. Its members were working people, actually men only, who opposed immigration, most
particularly of Catholics. Additionally, they provided in this pre-insurance era, a sick fund and a funeral fund which was incentive to join whether or not you were a bigot. They changed their name to the Order of United American Mechanics. Only native born, white, "Americans" who believed in a supreme being who controlled it all and kept things in order, were allowed to join.
Ironically, many of the parents of these members, not being "native
born," were not eligible to join and receive the insurance benefits. These
people supported the separation of church and state, and members could not be involved in the liquor trade. Their basic reason for supporting this
"non-sectarian" attitude was in its opposition to Catholic parochial
schools. The founding of this organization and others like it coincided with the massive immigration of Irish escaping the starvation of their potato
famine."
All you Obama-robotic worshippers who feel he can do no wrong
This is a population of exactly zero.
Please report back on what the almighty king has to say....
Just spoke with God-on-Earth Obama and He said . . . Ni!
Then He said He wanted a shrubbery.
I'm surprised the NRA rednecks haven't taken Karl Rove out back and beat the living shit out of that fat fairy.
Maybe they're too busy toe-tapping with him in the men's room.
All you Obama-robotic worshippers who feel he can do no wrong should ask your jesus-god-hero-walking-among-us-savi
What in the fuck are you blathering about? There's none of the above around here.
Stick it up your ass.
my liberal credentials
have been so well earned
voted for Thomas Jefferson and FDR
but now I'm CONCERNED
Many of here in SF remain very disappointed in Barak's actions on this.
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not to be a knee-jerk apologist, but maybe Obama has to play his political strategy close to the hip. He's encountered a mega-dose of racial discrimination, and we hear not word one about it from him.
However, avoiding alliances with persons close to controversial issues might be unwise at the time.
The man is walking a thin tightrope.
"they should be happy not having rights"-Glenn Harlan Reynolds
SF, bitches | 05.17.08 - 11:45 am
(a) It's "BARACK" - Senator Obama to YOU, asshole; and
(b) Fuck off. Really - just fuck off.
Obama and He said . . . Ni!
Green tea >>>>> Monitor
Trains derails carrying hydrochloric acid.
Residents told not to leave the house but if you do, says CNN anchor, wear a mask.
What in the fuck are you blathering about? There's none of the above around here.
Stick it up your ass.
billy b
It's either Elias or Bugs.
In the 1850s there were Bible Riots in Philadelphia.
The Protestants want their bible taught in public schools, not that evil Catholic bible.
A Catholic church got burned to the ground and some people died.
Bet you didn't learn that one in high school history.
Main Entry:
em·i·nent Listen to the pronunciation of eminent
Pronunciation:
ˈe-mə-nənt
Function:
adjective
Etymology:
Middle English, from Anglo-French or Latin; Anglo-French, from Latin eminent-, eminens, present participle of eminēre to stand out, from e- + -minēre; akin to Latin mont-, mons mountain — more at mount
Date:
15th century
1 : standing out so as to be readily perceived or noted : conspicuous 2 : jutting out : projecting 3 : exhibiting eminence especially in standing above others in some quality or position : prominent
I guess that "eminent danger" is a typo.
Oh well, I meant that thers said that his family was possibly in danger, that he might have to leave and hide. I asked what kind of danger and got no answer.
Residents told not to leave the house but if you do, says CNN anchor, wear a mask.
heh.
So, is scooterlogical.com a stroke of a domain name, or whut?
.
It's either Elias or Bugs.
I'm pretty sure they're the same person.
Pat Robertson says Ted Kennedy's illness is God's reaction to the CA ruling yesterday.
Also a warning not to vote for Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama or any other Democrat and to keep the troops in Iraq until Armageddon.
Also, Pat Robertson says God has instructed him to say Ni until all of the shrubberies are brought to Regent University.
A brief glimpse revealed several empty bottles of vodka on the floor of Robertson's study.
in eminent danger
and feint of heart
the towering problem
of till death do us part
It's either Elias or Bugs.
heh.
Someone floated the idea that bug was 'hadenough'.
Elias is a one trick pony.
25 years won't be enough to drop it down to merely "stupid" if Republicans can, once again, take avant-garde gay marriage and use it to scare up enough votes to win in Nov.
BOSTON (CBS) ― U.S. Senator Ted Kennedy was airlifted to a Boston hospital Saturday morning after falling ill at the Kennedy compound in Hyannisport, Mass., the Cape Cod Times reported.
He was first rushed to Cape Cod Hospital, and after being in the emergency room for two hours he was transferred to Massachusetts General Hospital, according to the Times.
If they kept him at the emergency room for two hours before moving him, that doesn't sound as bad as original reports implied.
In the 1850s there were Bible Riots in Philadelphia.
The Protestants want their bible taught in public schools, not that evil Catholic bible.
A Catholic church got burned to the ground and some people died.
Bet you didn't learn that one in high school history.
HULK
I went to Catholic school.
Trust me, I learned about that.
Because the Catholic Church was ALWAYS, ALWAYS right.
What I didn't learn about was the Spanish Inquisition and St. Bartholomew's Eve in France.
Isn't there an ur-troll named Butler or something, who everyone ends up being? Sorry, I have trouble keeping the trolls straight.
If they kept him at the emergency room for two hours before moving him, that doesn't sound as bad as original reports implied.
Apostate
Ted's fine.
He's going to outlive us all.
Dave, get real. There are no gay Jews.
steve hussein simels
Is it a Kosher thing?
So, is scooterlogical.com a stroke of a domain name, or whut?
.
Jeffraham Prestonian
Sounds good to me...
/back to lurking
So, is scooterlogical.com a stroke of a domain name, or whut?
two-stroke
thanks, noblejoanie.
we are very happy, and have our straw hats for the sunny bleachers ready to go in the caqr.
it should be a fun-filled weekend, even as the spouse and I are hacking away in the final stages of a bad cold.
Isn't there an ur-troll named Butler or something, who everyone ends up being? Sorry, I have trouble keeping the trolls straight.
R. McGeddon | 05.17.08 - 11:53 am | #
My tribute to him -- including a link to his greatest literary masterpiece -- is up at the homepage.
Hillbots are poor losers.
Hillary cannot win now. She doesn't have the delegates. She doesn't have the superdelegates.
She doesn't have squat.
avant-garde gay marriage
it always struck me as more bodoni extra bold.
There is only one troll.
All other trolls will someday morph into him.
They don't like thinking about this and get upset when they are told this is their fate.
Cape Cod = lots of gays
coincidnece?
Ted's fine.
Well, I dunno about that. If he had a stroke, he's probably not fine, at least not yet.
Isn't there an ur-troll named Butler or something, who everyone ends up being? Sorry, I have trouble keeping the trolls straight.
There's a sort of border-patrol obsession with trolls, in these threads.
Isn't there an ur-troll named Butler or something, who everyone ends up being? Sorry, I have trouble keeping the trolls straight.
I spend an inordinate amount of time here and the only ones I can keep straight are the Buttle's multiple personalities.
Stroke can be well managed if treated rapidly and aggressively. Sounds like they are doing that.
Cap Cod Hospital is confirming reports.
In the 1850s there were Bible Riots in Philadelphia.
The Protestants want their bible taught in public schools, not that evil Catholic bible.
The Quaker Bible should be taught in the Quaker City.
http://thumbsnap.com/v/3gXfhkP7.jpg
HULK:
Saint Michael's
That was the church that was burned down in, I believe, 1844.
It was rebuilt.
Interesting what happens when you bring up uncomfortable facts about Barack Obama...
My point is that he is craven politician like anyone else and those who praise him as some type of amazing, all-inclusive leader are, quite simply, full of shit. Obama has stuck his finger in eye of thousands of gays in San Francisco by refusing to be photographed with Mayor Newsom. Deny it, if you must. But it is sadly true...
And to all you idiots who call me a Republican troll, really now: FUCK YOU. A serious, deeply meant FUCK YOU.
I am a GAY Democrat in SF.
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If they kept him at the emergency room for two hours before moving him, that doesn't sound as bad as original reports implied.
Apostate
Wishful thinking.
Damm ,the Clintons really do play hardball.
/snark
Gay marriage (and a lack of diary products) pose the pre-eminent dangers to the white race.
She doesn't have squat.
That's not quite true, but I don't give enough of a fuck to argue about it.
I spend an inordinate amount of time here and the only ones I can keep straight are the Buttle's multiple personalities.
billy b
I'm starting to lose track of those.
He comes up with a new one every week.
annie and mimi have the same theme: they're "smoking hot" and all the ladies here are "jealous" of them.
Yeah, right!
Someone floated the idea that bug was 'hadenough'.
Elias is a one trick pony.
billy b
Bugs is a nasty little racist, sexist and anti-Semite.
SF, bitches | 05.17.08 - 11:45 am
Fuck off, Clay.
SF, bitches
No, the point if that you are a dishonest fucker.
BTW, who is your candidate?
pre-eminent dangers to me now sounds like a problems a republican would have.
Needs viagra to fix.
Wishful thinking.
Maybe. I don't know anything more than what has been reported, obviously.
if you are a gay democrat in sf--ask yourself why you are living there and not indianapolis and you might have an idea of why ob might not want the newsome pic as gift to KKKarl BEFORE the election.
easier to live their, I suppose.
it is not the most courageous stance but he aint running in the bay area or even CA.
It is true. Hillary cannot mathematically win at this point.
Obama only needs 160 more delegates.
He's getting most of Edwards' delegates and superdelegates are endorsing him every day.
Hillary is finished. And she will be blamed for hurting the party, so I hope she loses her Senate seat to a Dem challenger too.
Hillary is a DLC DINO. Anybody who supports her is a closet Repuke.
Herbert Hoover | 05.17.08 - 11:56 am
The Jew is using The Black as muscle.
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