I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

GravatarTake THAT Kenosha!!!


GravatarWoof?


Gravatar3 for 3 BABY!!!


GravatarWhat up dog?


GravatarI think this is Darryl Pearce's puppy, Mali.


GravatarAwww, cute.

Thanks, snakey!!


Gravatarthis is going to outrage the cats.


GravatarI think this is Darryl Pearce's puppy, Mali.

Even better.

Gosh speed, DP.


GravatarDoes Mali resemble her human too?


GravatarI am chopped liver.
.


GravatarGOP: Do Not Want.


GravatarOh, how sweet!

Is that DP's dog?




Gravataral central to be renamed detroit tigers central after this year. yee shall be pwnd.


Gravatargood looking dog.


GravatarBTW, since I was deadthreaded:

I finally got around to seeing "Atonement" tonight.

For god's sake, please.  Somebody give Keira Knightley a sammich!


GravatarBut... but... but...

That's not a cat...


GravatarWay t'go, McStain:



http://www6.comcast.net/news/art.../McCain.Pastor/


Gravatartiggers will be two-season wonders at best, euphronius.


GravatarIs that DP's dog?

I'm not 100% certain, but yes, I think so.


GravatarWhy does the first poster always seem to feel the need to post, like, 5 times in a row?


GravatarFor god's sake, please. Somebody give Keira Knightley a sammich!

watertiger


My daughter's opinion re Ms. Knightley as well.


Gravatar11 second u-tube of a bobcat:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T...h? v=TipzJfTMbzI


Gravatar2 seasons and 220 wins maybe.


GravatarMost people think I most closely resemble one end of my pet horse Rocky.


Gravatarit looks like a cocker spaniel, or has some spaniel in the background.


Gravatar4 more days, then it's all over but the crying.


Gravatarhttp://shakespearessister.blogsp...ryl- pearce.html

Shakespeare's Sister has a lovely photo of Darryl Pearce--and the top post is a farewell poem and thread.

Just found it--and the sadness returns at his loss.


GravatarWhy does the first poster always seem to feel the need to post, like, 5 times in a row?

It's a baseball game. You try for a home run.


GravatarDavid: you astound us with your perspicacity...

Enjoying your book, by the way. Thanks for sending it by. Liked your treatment of Zeno's paradox...


GravatarThis kitty eats 25 lbs of meat at a sitting..
http://upload.wikimedia.org/ wiki...igertrainer.jpg


GravatarWhy does the first poster always seem to feel the need to post, like, 5 times in a row?

...so I gather you've never owned any male dogs?


GravatarSomebody give Keira Knightley a sammich!

Anything to stop her from doing that goddamn thing with her lips where she never quite closes her mouth. She drives me nuts.


Gravatar4 more days, then it's all over but the crying.

Or not, as the case may be.


GravatarGotta run. Sleep, drive, drive, drive.


GravatarA new report issued recently by the Center for American Progress warned that, “as borrowing in the mortgage market slows, credit card borrowing is accelerating — a dangerous trend because borrowers still face weak income growth. That means the credit card market could eventually run into the same problems that now afflict the sub-prime mortgage market. ” Tonight, NBC News reported that credit card debt is nearing a record $1 trillion. The piece noted there is a “credit card binge across the nation as people use their plastic to stay financially afloat.”

So that's $1 trillion on the Iraq war with $1 trillion in credit card debt.

This is out of control. I don't care who wins the Democratic nomination.


GravatarShakespeare's Sister has a lovely photo of Darryl Pearce--and the top post is a farewell poem and thread.

Did anybody ever locate his last comment here?
And is this the first time a regular contributor has passed away?


GravatarOr not, as the case may be.

so not looking forward to 7 weeks of crying. so not.


GravatarNo, not soon enough for Maddie.


Gravatarmoar liger GOSH!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/ wiki...ertramliger.jpg


Gravatar11 second u-tube of a bobcat:

the 15 second one was better


Gravatar4 more days, then it's all over but the crying.

Yeah, because the nomination has been the end goal, all along.


GravatarWhy does the first poster always seem to feel the need to post, like, 5 times in a row?
Elias, It's about meme. | 02.29.08 - 11:04 pm | #


you tell us...


Gravatar2 seasons and 220 wins maybe.

You already said that you were drinking, so I'll let that pass.


Gravataryeah the idea of ligers is cool.


GravatarIt's a baseball game. You try for a home run.

Did U visit UR grandkittens today?

http://plush-life.blogspot.com/2...ay- kittenz.html


GravatarBULLSHIT !!!!!!!





Good evening, everyone. That's a nice doggie.


Gravatari wonder if leopards can breed with lions or tigers.., or jaguars.


Gravataru cleveland zap? or chisox?


Gravatardeadthreaded
My dear friend, did you think Bush wasn't going to invade Iraq?
I knew that Bush was just looking for cover. Why didn't they?
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? | Homepage | 02.29.08 - 10:53 pm | #
I just don't believe she is anywhere near stupid enough to have fallen for that.I may be wrong.
rootless-e, email-listed! | 02.29.08 - 10:53 pm | #


yeah, i know guys. at the time, i thought they would only find the poison gas that we sold to him, and obviously that alone wouldn't justify invading. if i knew that, why did all those people in congress not know that?

BTW here is a link to the transcription of the speech: http://clinton.senate.gov/ speech...raq_101002.html

if you read the speech carefully, you see that she is very clear that a unilateral invasion of iraq by the united states without widespread international approval for it would be a Very Bad Idea. having said that, the scenario she envisions is a vigorous push for complete inspections, and failing that a push for a u.n. authorization to use force

so, i agree - if you take her words at face value, she was more stupid and naive than any of us. point taken

but she never voted for what we got - a virtually unilateral invasion of iraq without doing everything possible to get full inspections. the u.n. was not about to authorise invasion since bush did not nearly do everything called for in the resolution that hillary voted for, in regards to inspections

laborious, but i think it is worth it to put a fine point on it


GravatarWhy does the first poster always seem to feel the need to post, like, 5 times in a row?
Elias, It's about meme. | 02.29.08 - 11:04 pm | #

you tell us...
fokowi


Just being the good Marxist. You know, that whole "self-criticism" thing...


Gravatarhttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wiki.../04/ Jaglion.jpg

jagalion!


Gravatarso not looking forward to 7 weeks of crying. so not.

yeah I hear ya, but the way this playing out at last people are getting their say, even if neither candidate is perfect.


GravatarGood evening, everyone. That's a nice doggie.

Iz Darryl Pearce's puppy.


GravatarDid U visit UR grandkittens today?

http://plush-life.blogspot.com/2...ay- kittenz.html


Cuties. If you give that bath to Maddie, do remember to video the whole thing. I wanna see how wet and bloody you end up.


Gravatartwinkies, euphronius. I know that they'll finish fourth.


GravatarBULLSHIT !!!!!!!

Greetings and salutations sir!

[bows head, does the hand twirl thing under the chin]


Gravatarjagalion!
euphronius Night Moves! | Homepage | 02.29.08 - 11:10 pm | #

wow! didnt know they existed. (hmm, rhino, horse...naw never work)


Gravataranyway, this has been a most enlightening discussion this evening

mostly enlightening my shadowy brain

now i must stage manage the friday night card game here at the Bear Cabin where we live

laters, 'bats

.


Gravatarit all depends on liriano. if he can go, the could make ehe playoffs.


Gravataryeah, i know guys. at the time, i thought they would only find the poison gas that we sold to him, and obviously that alone wouldn't justify invading. if i knew that, why did all those people in congress not know that?

I dunno. It makes me tired to think about it. Either they were too dumb to figure it out, or they decided the war was going to be successful and they didn't want to be on the wrong side.

Gah.


GravatarI finally got around to seeing "Atonement" tonight. For god's sake, please. Somebody give Keira Knightley a sammich! watertiger

I'm making a trip to the sub shop and have room in the van for Ms. Knightley. She can sit right next to Ms. Portman.


GravatarSo in the article about Goeglin resigning it says this:

By day’s end, more examples of plagiarism had turned up, including a column about John Wayne copied in part from an article in The New York Sun and passages from a column that tracked, almost verbatim, an article by Jonathan Yardley in The Washington Post.

... is that a reference to Kenosha Kid's discovery?


GravatarCuties. If you give that bath to Maddie, do remember to video the whole thing. I wanna see how wet and bloody you end up.

I'm not going to bathe her. I think it would frighten her too much.

She's not dirty, I just think her fur is a little oily.


GravatarUpdate on Nim/Jenn/Little Hock?


GravatarSome feminist analysis for you.


GravatarI finally got around to seeing "Atonement" tonight. For god's sake, please. Somebody give Keira Knightley a sammich! watertiger

Did U like the movie?


GravatarOh, I will note there are dogz and catz at my nonblog.


GravatarOh, I will note there are dogz and catz at my nonblog.

The buddies picture is absolutely fantastic. Maybe I should add it here?


GravatarEd Rendell on RealTIme.


He just gave a long rambling answer on why the Dems are better than the rethugs.

Can't he just say "They suck at governing, they're wrong on every issue and the country deserves better."

Simple.


Gravatarliriano, baker, bonser not bad mehbe


GravatarThe buddies picture is absolutely fantastic. Maybe I should add it here?

Golly, I would hate to be pimped like some Presidential Candidate's Daughter.

Oh wait, I'm a total whore. Sher!


GravatarSome feminist analysis for you.

My rule of thumb is to watch porn while my woman is cooking in the kitchen...


GravatarThe buddies picture is absolutely fantastic. Maybe I should add it here?

Only if you add a plushy picture too.


Gravatarphiladelphia repugs are not as evil.


GravatarFew things are sadder than a loyal canine who lost its master.

Greyfriar's Bobby always makes me cry when I visit Edinburgh.

http://www.greyfriarsbobby.co.uk...o.uk/ story.html


GravatarOh, fuck off Rendell.


Just fuck off.


GravatarFor the record, in the 6-9 months leading up to the invasion of Iraq I and many people I knew were 100% convinced everything out Bush' mouth regarding Iraq was a goddamned motherfucking lie. The internet was awash with demonstrations of flat out bullshit he was peddling. There were demonstrations and outrage the major media chose to ignore. But it was there. People were calling their Reps and Senators and explaining it to them.

That is, IMO there is a ZERO percent chance Hillary or any other pol in this country was unaware what they were voting for and what Chimpy McFuckstick was planning to do, whether or not they gave him their blessing. Every one of those crave assholes can burn in hell, right after we elect one of them President.


Gravataryoda: i'm still trying to process this excerpted post of yours from 9:12 am today...

That's what isn't said enough about Buckley, whose polarizing ideology and facile sesquepedalianism have dominated the discussion.

then i looked the long word up and it means, 'the rich bouquet of exuded sebaceousness.' which, of course, then made everything completely clear to me.

holy fuck, dude...


GravatarFor god's sake, please. Somebody give Keira Knightley a sammich!

watertiger

It must have been all that rum...


GravatarFew things are sadder than a loyal canine who lost its master.

Greyfriar's Bobby always makes me cry when I visit Edinburgh.

i didnt know that was a real dog, thought it was based on a book by albert payson terhune.


GravatarEchidne: the only thing that column was missing was the phrase, 'At the risk of being politically incorrect...' followed by calling Hillary Clinton a bitch.

It's instructive to imagine a column pandering to similar prejudices and stereotypes about, say, blacks or Jews.


Gravatarphiladelphia repugs are not as evil.

THey're still fucking wrong.


WHy the hell can't a single dem speak clearly and concisely?

Iz not that hard.


Gravataris a nonblog like a noship? can google find a nonblog?


GravatarI will say that I had a colleague at the time who believed all the bullshit. She grew up in a wingnut family in Montana, paid zero attention to the news, and was in her early twenties. She did not believe me when I insisted the President was lying to her. And she made no effort to find out whether it was true. She simply thought I was nuts.


Gravatar
I'm making a trip to the sub shop and have room in the van for Ms. Knightley. She can sit right next to Ms. Portman
.

It's not cool when the person's so thin, you can see their pancreas through their skin.

It's a beautifully shot movie, though.  James McAvoy is fab.


Gravatartakes a nongoogle.


GravatarDisney made a crappy movie in the 60's about Bobby.


Gravatar4legs, howard dean does. he iz real good at it. i agree rendell sucks. hes too fat.


Gravatarfokowi: the Times wrote something to the effect that, while some view Buckley as sesquepedalian, others see him as merely pleonastic.

They pay some dudes to write like that. Ain't it amazin'?


GravatarOk. I added Mex and Vinnie.


GravatarI will say that I had a colleague at the time who believed all the bullshit. She grew up in a wingnut family in Montana, paid zero attention to the news, and was in her early twenties. She did not believe me when I insisted the President was lying to her. And she made no effort to find out whether it was true. She simply thought I was nuts.
JeffCO | 02.29.08 - 11:20 pm | #


i lived in dallas and everyone i knew irl thought i was nuts. i was almost starting to wonder, and then i found media whores online.


GravatarIt must have been all that rum...


was just thinking that it was mildly ironic that the lovely bride and second-born are sitting over yonder watching "Pirates of teh Carib III" at the moment...


Gravatarthat is a very, very sweet shot of Mex and Vinnie.

Interspecies love.


GravatarEvening, all

Anything new I should be aware of? Or should I just guess?


GravatarIt's instructive to imagine a column pandering to similar prejudices and stereotypes about, say, blacks or Jews.

Yes, profWombat. I tried a few substitutions. But I felt such a slimeball writing those that I didn't.


Gravatarfokowi | Homepage | 02.29.08 - 11:18 pm | #

-------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------

it means given to using long words.


GravatarInterspecies love.

Love that Steve Miller song.


GravatarDisney made a crappy movie in the 60's about Bobby.

Emilio Estevez made a crappy movie in 2006 about Bobby.


GravatarThat is, IMO there is a ZERO percent chance Hillary or any other pol in this country was unaware what they were voting for and what Chimpy McFuckstick was planning to do...

Thank You.
And that's the whole point.
It was MORE than this generic notion that is was simply "Obamas' Judgment That It Was The Wrong Thing To Do At That Particular Time."
No.
It was the fact that Obama could see the bullshit flying knowing full well this was a war of conquest by oil _men_....


GravatarOnly if you add a plushy picture too.

Next Friday good for you? Assuming Atrios hasn't taken my keys away for all this fluffiness before that.


Gravatari believe ntodd was just linked.


GravatarThat's what isn't said enough about Buckley, whose polarizing ideology and facile sesquepedalianism have dominated the discussion.

I opened my last Scrabulous game with 'sesquepedalianism.' Just the luck of the draw.


GravatarThe buddies picture is absolutely fantastic. Maybe I should add it here?

so - Buddy was fantastic?


GravatarLove that Steve Miller song.

"Take the Bunny and Run"


GravatarTake the Bunny and Run"

heh


GravatarI gots fluffiness too...


Gravatar"'sesquepedalianism."

Well that certainly can suck the wind out of a friendly game.


You play that word, someone is going to pull a knife eventually.


Gravatari believe ntodd was just linked...

...to Keira Knightley?


GravatarIf I rip Joel Stein's head off, will he think it's because I might have PMS?

Jesus.


GravatarFly like the beagle.


GravatarI opened my last Scrabulous game with 'sesquepedalianism.' Just the luck of the draw.

Yer such a fucking cheater.


GravatarEmma is great in that picture.


Gravataris joel stein related to ben stein?


GravatarAnother one of my old girl BC's is about ready to leave the planet. I've had this one since she was a pup 15 years ago. Most of my BC's are rescues so I usually only have them for months, not years. Losing this one is really gonna hurt. I lost my old alpha girl, and her soulmate, last year.

Sometimes God really pisses me off.


GravatarAnother "progressive" institution, like Congress, in high repute:

Rasmussen: NY Times approval rating: 24%

you go, Obamagasmics!


GravatarNext Friday good for you? Assuming Atrios hasn't taken my keys away for all this fluffiness before that.

Well, okay.


GravatarDid someone say bunnies?

Night Of The Lepus 1972
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qFOwHAlL2zg


GravatarI've been posting this periodically because it is so damn good. Michael Eric Dyson on gender, Obama, etc...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q...h?v=QvZV- Ks5Zu0


Gravatari believe ntodd was just linked.

That explains the mess in my shorts.


GravatarGOP frets over Democratic fundraising By JIM KUHNHENN, Associated Press Writer
18 minutes ago


Gravatar"'Scuse me while I kiss this guy"

~Jimmy Hendricks


GravatarObama raised $36 million in January. Clinton aides said she raised $35 million in February, and estimates for Obama place his haul for the month at more than $50 million. McCain, who raised about $12 million in January, is on a similar pace for February, according to his campaign.


GravatarAnother "progressive" institution, like Congress, in high repute:

Rasmussen: NY Times approval rating: 24%


Yes, that's so fucking important because all of us here worship the goddamned Times.


GravatarEmma is great in that picture.

She's a fair weather walker though, doesn't last long outside this time of year.


GravatarHouse Appropriations Chairman David R. Obey , frustrated after last year’s appropriations endgame in which President Bush refused to compromise on domestic spending levels, was frank Tuesday in a hearing with Education Secretary Margaret Spellings : "If the administration doesn’t want to deal, if they don’t want to compromise . . . then we’re simply in a waiting game, and we’ll deal with a president who does.

Werkz fur mee


GravatarAnother one of my old girl BC's is about ready to leave the planet. I've had this one since she was a pup 15 years ago. Most of my BC's are rescues so I usually only have them for months, not years. Losing this one is really gonna hurt. I lost my old alpha girl, and her soulmate, last year.

Sometimes God really pisses me off.


It's the payment at the end for all the good stuff they give you. Still very sad.

I was walking my 16 year old dog this afternoon and a woman stopped her car to hesitantly offer me the name of someone who does chiropractic stuff on dogs. She had seen us totter down the street often.

But she didn't know about the sixteen years and then concluded that my dog looked really good.


GravatarNight Of The Lepus 1972


ranks right up there with attack of the killer tomatoes.


Gravatar
it means given to using long words.
euphronius Night Moves! | Homepage | 02.29.08 - 11:22 pm | #


the eloquence and substance of yoda is so far beyond villagespeak...


Gravatar
you go, Obamagasmics!


how's McCain looking in Ohio0, Brian?

hee hee. thanks for 2008, sucker.


Gravatarthanks fokowi


GravatarThat explains the mess in my shorts.


Does this mean I can't accuse you of being full of it?


GravatarChris Hitchins...

Ohh, reminds me I'm outta beer.


GravatarWait...Congress is progressive?

That explains all that war and spying, and stuff.


Gravatarhttp://www.dohiyimir.org/

still up, even after the atrios limk


GravatarChris Hitchins...

Ohh, reminds me I'm outta beer.


This has been an irritating day.


GravatarMali look good, for stewing


Gravatar
how's McCain looking in Ohio0, Brian?


Must suck to be in the furniture business these days.


Gravatari believe ntodd was just linked.
euphronius Night Moves!


Shows up as a href=null


GravatarNight Of The Lepus 1972

ranks right up there with attack of the killer tomatoes.
pretzelattack


not as much as Night of the Lopez, (Anna) 1985, oy ...


GravatarThis has been an irritating day.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?


U too?


GravatarHeh 85,000,000+ vs. 12,000,000.

No wonder John McLame is pushing the socialistic Big Government Public Funding thing.


Gravatarthanks fokowi
ProfWombat | 02.29.08 - 11:31 pm | #


no. no. no.

thank you...


GravatarI know it's lame, but it's kinda sad when a long-time news anchor that you grew up watching dies.


Gravatarhaloscans getting weird again


GravatarI know it's lame, but it's kinda sad when a long-time news anchor that you grew up watching dies.
Zap Rowsdower | Homepage | 02.29.08 - 11:37 pm | #
------

Bay Buchanen died?????


GravatarI think Goddess is going to get in trouble for this. Atrios has a strict never-link-to-NTodd policy.


GravatarEchidne,

Al- the dog, has you beat though. He is eighteen now and soon to be nineteen. Arthritic, deaf, mostly blind but as long as there is food - he ain't goin' nowhere.

(But damn! It is exasperating caring for a geriatric dog with symptoms of dementia)


GravatarThis has been an irritating day.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?


Irritating? Try dealing with people who cannot tell you the time of day, without feeling the need to check your watch to see if they are lying. Then try doing it on 4 1/2 hours of sleep.


GravatarMust suck to be in the furniture business these days.

the downside for us: Hardig's got plenty of time to use his super-mosquito powers to buzz us in an extremely annoying manner.


bbbbbzzzzz goes Brian, bbzzzzzzzzzzz


GravatarBillary meanwhile lowering their own bar, upping the Obamattacks. God knows what's going on with the supers, the Convention credentialling stuff.

This is as close as she'll ever get to it--they all know it.


GravatarI think Goddess is going to get in trouble for this. Atrios has a strict never-link-to-NTodd policy.

Fortunately she's a goddess and can kick A-man's ample, sweaty ass.

And bless her for it.


Gravatarah, didnt know dogs got dementia.


GravatarAnd Duncan's posture below is atrocious. At least lie all the way down.


Gravatar"(But damn! It is exasperating caring for a geriatric dog with symptoms of dementia)"

Oh no, he is going to put his hat in the ring for president too?


GravatarThe discrepancy was enough to lead Republican National Committee Treasurer Tim Morgan to sound off last weekend in San Francisco during a California Republican convention. Morgan said the RNC has budgeted $150 million for the year, $100 million less than it raised in 2004 when President Bush ran against Democrat John Kerry.

"I look at the Barack Obama campaign in some horror," he said, noting the Democrat's totals so far this year. "That should give all of us a pause."


GravatarYou mean, Chris "LBJ is a war criminal, but GW Bush is a freedom fighter" Hitchens?


GravatarCan't have your hood up at an Obama event?
WTF?


GravatarTroutski,

Sorry to hear about your girl. I've never gotten one of my border collies past 10, various odd things got them. My current pup just turned three. Sweetest of any of them and that's saying some.

My thoughts are with you.


GravatarOh golly. Nightline earning it's 80s cred again.

"Porn: Good Or Bad?"


Gravatar
And Duncan's posture below is atrocious.


He needs to start working out. He's doing a pretty good William Conrad impression in that picture.


GravatarA few pics over at the CodePink blog from Wednesday's potluck. You might recognize somebody.


GravatarDunkin some kind of interior decorator?

Gee, the color coordination between himself and his sofa! Awesome faggy!


GravatarIrritating? Try dealing with people who cannot tell you the time of day, without feeling the need to check your watch to see if they are lying. Then try doing it on 4 1/2 hours of sleep.

Oh, sorry.

U needs a new job.


Gravatarhes doing couch isometrics.


Gravatar
"I look at the Barack Obama campaign in some horror," he said, noting the Democrat's totals so far this year. "That should give all of us a pause."


the pause that refreshes.


Gravatar(But damn! It is exasperating caring for a geriatric dog with symptoms of dementia)
Beowulf Schaeffer


Not looking forward to that, my boy is going on 14, but is still bouncing around like a 5 yr. old. Had to put his sister down 6 years ago for liver cancer.


Gravatar"I look at the Barack Obama campaign in some horror,"

pray for money, asshole!


Gravatari>Irritating? Try dealing with people who cannot tell you the time of day, without feeling the need to check your watch to see if they are lying. Then try doing it on 4 1/2 hours of sleep.
David (Austin Tx)

How long you been workin at Starbucks?


GravatarOkay, I may be a senile and retarded old teacher but I am shocked that school districts would EVER do this. Mine never did and I assumed that no one else ever would because of the obvious stigma attached. But they did it anyway? WTF?

(The article is about poor children not eating subsidized lunch at high school because it is served in a different location with different food. Duh . . . )

Only 37 percent of eligible high school students citywide take advantage of the subsidized meal program. But the stigma of accepting a government lunch, while others are paying for food from a different menu, is not unique to San Francisco. It is a problem many school districts across the country have been quietly confronting with mixed results, education and school nutrition officials said.

“We all struggle with it one way or another,” said Eric Goldstein, chief executive of school support services for New York City’s public schools, where 860,000 free or subsidized meals are served daily.

The New York schools conduct regular promotions, including inviting players from the Mets, Giants and the Jets — and high school football players and girls’ softball players — to eat the subsidized fare in their jerseys.

Ann Cooper, director of nutrition services for the public schools in Berkeley, Calif., said that attention to school cafeterias had traditionally focused on nutrition, but that the separation of students who pay and those who receive free meals was an important “social justice issue.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/0...&hp& oref=slogin


GravatarI'm always touching my computer screen for one reason or another, and usually end up with fingerprints and dust all over it. If that's the case for you, I found a really neat program to keep it clean and the best part is, it's FREE!!

https://emp.ucsd.edu/swf/screenclean.swf


GravatarU too?

Yes.

Apparently if I caucus on Tuesday, it means I'm participating in "stealing the primary in the dead of night."


Gravatarhes doing couch isometrics.

Working on his Kegels?


GravatarHow long you been workin at Starbucks?

Oh, stop it.

Not even funny.


GravatarApparently if I caucus on Tuesday, it means I'm participating in "stealing the primary in the dead of night."

how does this primary AND caucus thing work anyway?


GravatarYou mean, Chris "LBJ is a war criminal, but GW Bush is a freedom fighter" Hitchens?
Elias, Thread mixer.


I thought that Maher was going to reach across the table and smack him at one point.


How long you been workin at Starbucks?
Elias, Thread mixer.


I may as well be.


GravatarVirus troll?


GravatarApparently if I caucus on Tuesday, it means I'm participating in "stealing the primary in the dead of night."

Quoi?


GravatarShut up Snitchens.


At least this british guy is sensible.


GravatarQuoi?

Latest Clinton talking point.


GravatarI thought that Maher was going to reach across the table and smack him at one point.

I wish he would.


GravatarApparently if I caucus on Tuesday, it means I'm participating in "stealing the primary in the dead of night."
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?


Yea, that's getting pretty crazy.

We got told we can't vote for clean water up here.

Gold yesterday, water today, jeeze.


Gravatarnice crotch shot ntodd


GravatarApparently if I caucus on Tuesday, it means I'm participating in "stealing the primary in the dead of night."

Well, it can't be worse than Pat Benatar running with the shadows of the night.

Can it?


GravatarLatest Clinton talking point.
The Old Man From Scene 24


Yes.

When they lose in the caucuses, and they will, they're going to say we stole it and make a legal challenge to the caucus system.

Never mind that this has been the primary system in place in Texas for over 20 years.


GravatarPUGS! PUGS! PUGS! PUGS!...


GravatarWe got told we can't vote for clean water up here.

Gold yesterday, water today, jeeze.


I'm sorry, what the hell do they have against clean water?


Gravatarwasnt there some court decision aobut the water?


Gravatar
Never mind that this has been the primary system in place in Texas for over 20 years.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?


And I hope we get rid of it after this election.

In fact, I hope the entire primary system is scrapped and redone.


GravatarSpeaking of Ntodd at homepage find the horrifying story of a dedicated Quaker teacher who specializes in developmental math (quick explanation: THING WE NEED, LIKE WE DO NOT NEED STAR WARS) being fired for failing to swear to a version of the military loyalty oath we had to swear before entering the military, which is being required for teachers for some reason.
The school board lawyer is very creepy; he pretty much says she could've prevented this if only she could get past her beliefs, which beliefs ought to be shoved aside for the good of the Constitution which supposedly protects them.


GravatarLatest Clinton talking point.

Jesus tits.


Gravatarnice crotch shot ntodd

OMG, that's NTODD?!!!


Gravatarnice crotch shot ntodd

D00d, don't be lookin at my crotch. Look at the cool phone I gots!


GravatarWhen they lose in the caucuses, and they will, they're going to say we stole it and make a legal challenge to the caucus system.

Are the caucuses and primaries cumulative to the same set of delegates? or are one set of delegates chosen in the primaries and a second set in the caucuses?

I wen to the caucuses here for the first time, and it was an incredible experience given the huge turnout and enthusiasm on both sides.


GravatarLatest Clinton talking point.

Jesus tits.


Yep. Pretty much.


GravatarOh, stop it.

Not even funny.


So how long have you been frequenting Starbucks?


GravatarApparently if I caucus on Tuesday, it means I'm participating in "stealing the primary in the dead of night."

and no republican would ever think of voting against a Clinton ...

why does hope make some people insufferable dumb assholes?


GravatarI'm sorry, what the hell do they have against clean water?
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?


It apparently belongs to the legislature, and for the citizens to decide we want it clean takes it out of control of the legislature.

So the initiative for clean water is unconstitutional.

No shit http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/s...ory/ 330711.html


GravatarBarry from Alaska,

I hate to be the bearer of bad news and all but there ain't no way in hell that this SCOTUS is ever going to award the people of Alaska punitive damages from Exxon. Sorry. You be fucked.


GravatarIn fact, I hope the entire primary system is scrapped and redone.

why?


GravatarAre the caucuses and primaries cumulative to the same set of delegates? or are one set of delegates chosen in the primaries and a second set in the caucuses?

One set by vote, and a second set (about a third) chosen by caucus.

It's also how we choose our delegates to the state and national conventions.

It actually gives ordinary citizens a say in the state and national parties. I think that's a good thing.


GravatarI wen to the caucuses here for the first time, and it was an incredible experience given the huge turnout and enthusiasm on both sides.

Don't let dave or darth hear you say that...


Gravatargod that sucks barry. im going way out on a limb and guessing the judge is a wingnut.


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wuts the issue? gov workers have a liitle mre rights tan private employees.


GravatarSpeaking of new jobs, Catbert wrote the job requirements for the job I was told I wasn't qualified for.


http://www.dilbert.com/comics/di...t- 20080229.html

This is why I hate searching for a job. Recruiters and HR representatives who don't know what they are looking for.


GravatarD00d, don't be lookin at my crotch. Look at the cool phone I gots!

NTodd looks like the guy who played the communist Elaine dated on Seinfeld...


GravatarSo the initiative for clean water is unconstitutional.

Holy crap.

You should open a torches and pitchforks concession stand up there.

You're going to need one soon and you'll make a fortune.


GravatarI hate to be the bearer of bad news and all but there ain't no way in hell that this SCOTUS is ever going to award the people of Alaska punitive damages from Exxon. Sorry. You be fucked.
Beowulf Schaeffer


You ain't bearing any news we don't know from how Roberts led the questioning.

What's goona be fun is the fishing boat blockade of the Valdez oil terminal.


GravatarSpeaking of new jobs, Catbert wrote the job requirements for the job I was told I wasn't qualified for.

Ow.

Sorry.


GravatarSo the initiative for clean water is unconstitutional.
----

preempted by CWA, no?


GravatarSO I don't know how many of you are affected by this, but basic science funding (NSF, NIST, DOE) was pretty much gutted by congress in the FY08 appropriations bill. A number of important programs were cut, and at least one I know of were zeroed out this year -- funding for the US contribution to ITER, a fusion energy experiment.

Whine, moan.

Ahem. Anyway, a buddy of mine wrote to Diane Feinstein asking for her to work to restore the cuts to the budget for basic science. Her response 5 weeks later was...strange. Basically -- "cuts, what cuts? Everything is great!" She was actually congratulating herself on the great job they all did. A quote from the letter:

"As a member of the Senate
Committee on Appropriations, I worked with my colleagues to craft the
bill and ensure that our commitments to innovation and research are
being met. "


WTF?! There was not even an acknowledgment that there were cuts!


Gravatarnice crotch shot, todd.

aiiight, i'm calling it a night.

not the crotch, the evening.




never mind.


GravatarYou ain't bearing any news we don't know from how Roberts led the questioning.

What's goona be fun is the fishing boat blockade of the Valdez oil terminal.


YAY!!

I haven't bought Exxon gas since the oil spill. And I never will.


Gravatarwhy?
The Old Man From Scene 24



Why? Because even though the primary season started the first week in January, it wont be over until August.

While I truly appreciate the competitive nature of this race, frankly even I am beginning to reach my limit. The campaign started over a year ago, and won't end for another seven months.


Gravatar Take THAT Kenosha!!!

NOOOOOOO!!!!


Gravataraiiight, i'm calling it a night.

not the crotch, the evening.


SPROING?


Gravatar"face mullet, face mullet, face mullet"


Gravatargod that sucks about the valdez. 20 years and the fuckers get off with a slap on the wrist.


Gravatarupdated 22 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Attorney General Michael Mukasey refused Friday to refer the House's contempt citations against two of President Bush's top aides to a federal grand jury. Mukasey said White House Chief of Staff Josh Bolten and former presidential counsel Harriet Miers committed no crime.


Mukasey,Puppet General of the Bush Syndicate,gives us another reason to consider him a corrupt,shit eating empty suit.


GravatarTerry C,

Communism is another sad, bizarre chapter in human history whose last pages are being written even as we speak.


GravatarNOOOOOOO!!!!

Never gets old.


GravatarNOOOOOOO!!!!
The Kenosha Kid


Don't be playa hatin! ))


GravatarWhat's goona be fun is the fishing boat blockade of the Valdez oil terminal.

Barry from Alaska

I sincerely hope so. I really do. In essence, that is the only way that the tide will ever turn in this country. As it stands now, we just get further and further behind every day.

Perhaps Mr. Obama or Ms Clinton will make a difference. I sincerely hope they will. But in my heart of hearts I fear they will not. And actually, when I look into that secret place, I see McCain's goiter infested pasty-white face looking back with pumpkinhead standing behind smiling.


GravatarSo the initiative for clean water is unconstitutional.

No shit http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/s...ory/ 330711.html

Barry from Alaska


Having read the article, I'm curious, Barry. Does the Alaska initiative process allow for ammendments to the state constitution?

In Orygun, people wanting to stop the proposed mine water usage would be all over this with a ballot initiative ammendment to the state constitution in a heartbeat...
.


GravatarDon't let dave or darth hear you say that...

why? cos the Clinton campaign doesn't like them?

It was a great experience to directly participate in democracy that way, but detractors do have a point: those unique Americans with 2 or 3 jobs or those who can't afford child care are at a disadvantage.


GravatarI see that someone just watched Letterman's "Great Moments In Presidential Speeches".


Gravatar"face mullet, face mullet, face mullet"

I thought the Trotsky look went out in 1997?


Gravatar Don't be playa hatin!

It's the link to NTodd that got me really upset.


GravatarHaving read the article, I'm curious, Barry. Does the Alaska initiative process allow for ammendments to the state constitution?

In Orygun, people wanting to stop the proposed mine water usage would be all over this with a ballot initiative ammendment to the state constitution in a heartbeat...
.
Jack K., the Grumpy Forester


I think it does, but any initiative has to get past the Lt. Governor, who is like a little Tom Delay.


GravatarIt's the link to NTodd that got me really upset.

What? You got one from A-man during primetime, bitch.


Gravatari didnt know No Country for Old Men wuz coen bros!!!


Gravatargod that sucks about the valdez. 20 years and the fuckers get off with a slap on the wrist.
pretzelattack

No, there will be no slap on the wrist. This will end up like Dick Cheney's shooting incident. The people of Alaska will end up apologizing to Exxon for having their beaches in the way of Exxon's oil. . . .


GravatarNOOOOOOO!!!!
The Kenosha Kid


Don't worry dude, I'm pretty sure you're still FAR out in front...
But it's such a thrill to sit in the front seat for a change...


GravatarI'd rather have a long drawn out primary process than have the "Party Leaders" designate a candidate.


Gravatar"What's goona be fun is the fishing boat blockade of the Valdez oil terminal."

Watch out for those Smokers out there.


GravatarDon't let dave or darth hear you say that...

why? cos the Clinton campaign doesn't like them?


No, because those 2 hate caucuses and think direct, participatory democracy is somehow evil.


GravatarIt's the link to NTodd that got me really upset.

Didn't you get some linkage today?


GravatarWhat? You got one from A-man during primetime, bitch.
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its primetime in Guam. stop ur bitchin.


GravatarNew York Times January ad revenue down 9.8 percent
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/ 20080...4PnCwIndmZxFb8C

Bill Kristol evidently ain't helping their circulation.


Gravatargod that sucks about the valdez. 20 years and the fuckers get off with a slap on the wrist.
pretzelattack

No, there will be no slap on the wrist. This will end up like Dick Cheney's shooting incident. The people of Alaska will end up apologizing to Exxon for having their beaches in the way of Exxon's oil. . . .
Beowulf Schaeffe



The slap on the wrist was the $2 billion dollar fine. They will earn that back in two weeks.

This is going to be a late Xmas gift.


GravatarBTW, latest Paxcast is posted. Sorry, TKK, no Queen, ABBA or Frankie.


GravatarNo, there will be no slap on the wrist. This will end up like Dick Cheney's shooting incident. The people of Alaska will end up apologizing to Exxon for having their beaches in the way of Exxon's oil. . . .
Beowulf Schaeffer | Homepage | 03.01.08 - 12:01 am | #

did they ever pay anything? anything at all?


GravatarYes, I got a rare front page link today, but I can't lord it over NTodd if he got one too.


GravatarKenosha did you see this?

By day’s end, more examples of plagiarism had turned up, including a column about John Wayne copied in part from an article in The New York Sun and passages from a column that tracked, almost verbatim, an article by Jonathan Yardley in The Washington Post.


Is that last part a reference to you?


Gravatarall that crap about how they were going to clean up the beaches, and then later there are all these photos of birds mired in oil.


Gravatar Is that last part a reference to you?

Yes! I made the NY Times! (so where's my link?)


GravatarNo, because those 2 hate caucuses and think direct, participatory democracy is somehow evil.

Mostly they just hate Obama.


GravatarAll this talk about aging dogs reminds me of my sister's pug Pugsley. She used to say that she was looking forward to him growing old because it would mean they'd spent a lot of time together. He developed diabetes at 8 and went blind veyr shortly afterwards,then died a couple of months before his 10th birthday of pancreatitis.

He was just about my favorite creature, human or otherwise, of my lifetime. How I loved that dog...


GravatarNo countdown?

WTF??


GravatarKenosha, you can lord it over NTodd that your picking up of Goeglein stealing from Jonathan Yardley seems to have made it into the NYT story about his having to resign.


Gravatar
No, because those 2 hate caucuses and think direct, participatory democracy is somehow evil.


I recall that the Obama fans were whining a few weeks ago on dkos about caucuses.


GravatarWatch out for those Smokers out there.
EkCenTriK


They got a dude with gills over at the Seward Sea Life Center on tap for them dudes.




GravatarI recall that the Obama fans were whining a few weeks ago on dkos about caucuses.

I doubt that. Obama has done well in caucuses all year.


GravatarNo countdown?

WTF??



We are having a To Catch a Predator special foisted on us.

NBC truly sucks.


GravatarWe are having a To Catch a Predator special foisted on us.

NBC truly sucks.


Yes. Motherfuckers. I got home late and missed Keith.


GravatarI'm fond of the opinion that if it's said over at dkos that it equals the Obama's campaign stance.

Conversely, if I were the Clinton campaign, I sure as hell wouldn't want anyone from MyDD speaking for me.


GravatarThe WaPo article links to my comment at Nancy Nall's site.


GravatarWhy is Dick Haymes nowhere starry-eyed and vaguely discontented on youtube?


Gravatarall that crap about how they were going to clean up the beaches, and then later there are all these photos of birds mired in oil.
pretzelattack


I was talking with one lady who was on a boat doing cleanup, she was 17 years old at the time.

They rented a huge pump and got permission from the Coast Guard to suck up oil and store it in the bilge.

So this pump is sucking up huge volumes of oil and water, chugging along. But every 15 or 20 minutes.. ping, ping, ping cachunk.

Every time that happened, it was a bird, otter, or seal that it sucked up.


GravatarI doubt that. Obama has done well in caucuses all year.

Apparently Obama fans over there have said all manner of things. I wouldn't know as never read dKos.


GravatarSo this pump is sucking up huge volumes of oil and water, chugging along. But every 15 or 20 minutes.. ping, ping, ping cachunk.


Fuck.

I really, really, really hate them.

I'm never ever buying anything from them not only in this life, but the next one as well.


Gravatar
Yes! I made the NY Times! (so where's my link?)
The Kenosha Kid


Don't feel bad, my blog was featured in a Howie Kurtz column, yet no one noticed.


GravatarI dunno about old dogs. Some days Al is just fine but some days I find him very hard to deal with. He is taking prednisone for his arthritis. This drug has a side-effect of increasing his appetite so he constantly - when he is not sleeping like he is dead - following me around waiting for me to drop him some food. He is incontinent. When he has to go, he just lets it rip. He sleeps like he is dead most of the day and then refuses to even lay down at night and instead stares at you and pants waiting for food. Often he cries under his breath when he does not get some. If you are cooking he is constantly underfoot and since he can barely see and cannot hear, the only way to get him to move is to push him. . .

Trust me. Just not that easy.


GravatarThe WaPo article links to my comment at Nancy Nall's site.

But you weren't first over there, so it shouldn't count.


GravatarYes. Motherfuckers. I got home late and missed Keith.

no KO tonight. In the earlier slot the replayed the debate.


Gravatar
I doubt that


They were complaining loudly about the tactics of the Clinton forces.


GravatarWhat? You got one from A-man during primetime, bitch. -NTodd, Änti-VNF

whaaaa, there is a 'prime-time' for linkage? wow, blogs is ... is ... well


GravatarThere was a German Shepherd down the block who made it to age 20. The neighbors told us his story: He'd been owned by a family that just didn't have time for him when he was a pup, but a couple of neighbor boys used to play with him. When the family moved, the asked the boys' family if they'd like to keep the dog, and of course they said yes. So the boys had the dog, and the dog had the boys, and so they continued very happily for many long years. In the dog's last years, I'd mostly see the dad slowly walking the dog around the block, and occasionally, these stalwart young men home from college or wherever tenderly walking their ancient dog. The dad told me once that the old dog had suffered a couple of strokes and they kept thinking it was over, but he kept bouncing back.

The dog finally made it to his reward last winter, and the family honored him by adopting another German Shepherd very much like him. And the dad walks the young dog around the block.


Gravataryeah my mothers old poodle is ancient. blind, he is afraid to even go outside, i think due to the blindness.


Gravatarno KO tonight. In the earlier slot the replayed the debate.

Ah. Glad I didn't rush home.


GravatarTrust me. Just not that easy.
Beowulf Schaeffer


I was just there. My greyhound suddenly developed bone cancer, had terrible arthritis, was incontinent, and deaf.

I had to put her to sleep, it was the hardest decision I have had to make, but when the time is right, you will know.


GravatarLinkage is for pussies ...


GravatarRe: prednisone. That crap works the same way for people. Hungry hungry hungry all the time. Dammit. Glad I'm finally off it.


GravatarBeowulf Schaeffer, my dog is no longer on prednisone but on something else because of the liver damage it was causing. The new drug seems to be better in terms of night-time walks, too. You might ask the vet if there is an alternative.


GravatarRe: prednisone. That crap works the same way for people. Hungry hungry hungry all the time. Dammit. Glad I'm finally off it.
strawhat


It made my greyhound very hostile. When she was on it (which wasn't very long), she would growl and snap at us.


GravatarGood news! I started coughing up brown crap today. Getting all of that tar outta my lungs.


GravatarPups!


GravatarGood news, Zap! How long have you been an ex-smoker now?


GravatarZap, I'll be joining you soon.

Smoked my last cig today, went back on a reduced dose of Chantix.  The full dose made me really ill, but I can tolerate about a quarter of the rec'd dosing and still have decent results.


Gravatarcareer best!! Best Media Matters ever!

http://mediamatters.org/items/20...ms/ 200802290020


Gravatar2 1/2 weeks, strawhat.

Seems like an eternity.


GravatarDavid, when I had pneumonia, I was getting oral and inhaled steroids.  I was beyond batshit insane for 2 weeks.


GravatarSmoked my last cig today

Congrats Sallyh!


GravatarSallyh,

I had the exact opposite experience re: chantix. The low dose stuff made me pretty goofy, but the high dosage pill hasn't.

Weird, eh?


GravatarZap, everyone's got a different response, so it would seem


GravatarWhy has that brainless blowhard Penn Jillette been invited on TV to discuss the presidential campaign?


GravatarGAH. He's on with Ben Stein.


GravatarEvil incarnate:

http://www.humanevents.com/ artic...24899#continueA


GravatarWhy has that brainless blowhard Penn Jillette been invited on TV to discuss the presidential campaign?

Jillette is a French name isn't it?


GravatarOld Man, I'd quit for nearly 3 months, and then earlier this month, my daughter more or less went completely to shit, and I more or less fell apart. 

It's getting better, and I'm tired of smoking.


GravatarWhen I quit smoking at age 36, after a month or two I turned pink. I'd always been pale, but I'd been plain dead corpse-like white, for lo those many years I'd been smoking. Turning pink was a great improvement. Nicotine apparently affects circulation, and the pink was a sign of improved circulation to the dermis, and therefore fewer wrinkles (I took a good look at my sister-in-law when we visited a couple weeks ago, and her years of smoking are starting to show. V. glad I quit.).


GravatarI guess so, Sallyh.

(congrats on quitting, btw...let's do it together )


GravatarFor me, one of the hardest part about quitting smoking, is mentally decoupling the act of lighting up with certain daily activities, like after a meal, or, as a programmer, getting a piece of code to compile and work correctly.

And of course, with that first cup of morning coffee.


GravatarWhy has that brainless blowhard Penn Jillette been invited on TV to discuss the presidential campaign?

for once I am glad I'm watching Charlie Rose!


GravatarZap, we're on


GravatarWhy has that brainless blowhard Penn Jillette been invited on TV to discuss the presidential campaign?

To torture me.


Gravataror, as a programmer, getting a piece of code to compile and work correctly.

well 2 or 3 a week isn't too bad


GravatarJeesus, I just heard this AmExpress ad where they used a Spinal Tap song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u...h? v=uLYk0CgxQbM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I...h?v=I- BYzaDwNoE

Is nothing sacred?


Gravatar4Legs--noes!  Rong 2 torchur centaur!


GravatarOld Man, I'd quit for nearly 3 months, and then earlier this month, my daughter more or less went completely to shit, and I more or less fell apart.


You are headed in the right direction though.


GravatarWhy has that brainless blowhard Penn Jillette been invited on TV to discuss the presidential campaign?

Because he says in his show:

"Obama is just creaming Hillary. You know, all these primaries, you know. And Hillary says it's not fair, because they're being held in February, and February is Black History Month. And unfortunately for Hillary, there's no White Bitch Month."


Gravataror, as a programmer, getting a piece of code to compile and work correctly.

I just mentioned that to Monsieur.  He wanted to laugh and cry at the same time.


Gravatar
Apparently Obama fans over there have said all manner of things.


In this case, it was that Hillary Clinton "stole" the Nevada caucus.

http://www.eurweb.com/story/eur40163.cfm


Gravatarblowhard Penn Jillette

Even his voice just shoves eveyone aside.


GravatarNicotine apparently affects circulation

It sure does.

I got a booklet of a bunch of things that will happen after three days, two weeks, six months, etc. of not smoking.

So weird stuff with nerve endings? I had no idea until I went to see the doc.


Gravatar2 1/2 weeks -- good work, Zap!

Keep an eye out for those old routinized cues for smoking. I was nearly knocked over by a wave of wanting-to-smoke several months out, when I decided to make a little dress for my niece. I finished a sleeve and the urge darn near killed me all of a sudden -- and I realized that for 18 years, whenever I did my annual sewing project, when I finished a piece, I'd take a smoke break. Well -- even though I'd forgotten about such a routine, my back brain hadn't -- and it wanted to carry out the routine. I didn't give in but it was touch & go for a few hours there. The habit's as bad as the drug, I'm thinking!


Gravatar4Legs--noes! Rong 2 torchur centaur!

That's what I say?


GravatarYou know how you get those cold fingers of fear caressing your spine sometimes? Not out and out fear; just that funny feeling that something is terribly amiss and you can't really place what it is, but you are aware that it is there and you feel the iciness creeping? This little piece did that for me.

ASUNCION, Parguay (AP) — Neil Bush, younger brother of U.S. President George W. Bush, called on Paraguay's president as the guest of a business federation founded by the Rev. Sun Myung Moon.

A presidential press office source, who spoke on condition of not being named, confirmed the younger Bush met President Nicanor Duarte on Thursday along with a delegation from the Universal Peace Federation, a group associated with Moon.

Duarte himself had no statement on the meeting.

Antonio Betancourt, a spokesman for the federation, said that Bush visited Duarte and later met with an opposition congressional leader, Sen. Miguel Abdon Saguier, and that both expressed interest in the Bush family and discussed local matters.

Betancourt said Bush later attended a leadership seminar sponsored by the federation.


GravatarSmoked my last cig today

... and all of the sudden the Smithereens popped into my head. But I can't find it on You Tube.

Dramarama also had a song.


GravatarThey were complaining loudly about the tactics of the Clinton forces.
Richard


i don't blame them, those fucking Clintonistas act like politicians trying to get elected and help their constituency or something ... hopeless:


Black superdelegates backing Clinton are being "threatened"
Rep. Emanuel Cleaver of Missouri said Thursday that black Democratic superdelegates who support Sen. Hillary Clinton have been “bludgeoned verbally” to prod them to switch to Sen. Barack Obama...

Someone's singin', Lord, kumbaya;
Someone's singin', Lord, kumbaya;
Someone's singin', Lord, kumbaya ...
.


GravatarHoly shit!

Look at the picture on the front page of our local rag.

http://www.statesman.com/

That's lines of people waiting to vote.


GravatarJeesus, I just heard this AmExpress ad where they used a Spinal Tap song:

Oh good grief.


GravatarThe habit's as bad as the drug, I'm thinking!

Yep. It's funny (well, not really) how often I still reach for my left shirt pocket.

With that, I'd better go see how Zapette's book on fertility is.

Goodnight.


Gravatar
Nicotine apparently affects circulation


Thanks to smoking, my mother started having serious trouble with the circulation in her mid-50's. She eventually had part of major artery that supplies the lower part of the body replaced surgically.


Gravatar
That's lines of people waiting to vote.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?


Holy crap, whats it gonna be like Tuesday?


Gravatar4lg, did U vote? Did gurls hug you when you got home afters?


Gravatarwell 2 or 3 a week isn't too bad
The Old Man From Scene 24


No kidding. Sometimes everything falls into place, and other times, you're just trying to coax a "Hello World" out of the machine.


GravatarMore than 22,000 voters cast a ballot Friday, bringing the Travis County total to more than 115,760.

Wow! Amazing. The turnout is already several times what it was in 2004 apparently.


GravatarCrazeee:

With one day left in the early voting period, turnout in the Harris County Democratic primary had increased by 550 percent over the 2004 primary for the same period. Republican turnout in the same area increased by 78 percent.

In Dallas County, the turnout had increased by more than 650 percent for Democrats and 231 percent for Republican voters.

In the traditionally Democratic Travis County, turnout had increased by 243 percent over 2004 numbers in the Democratic primaries and by 52 percent in the GOP primary.


GravatarSometimes everything falls into place, and other times, you're just trying to coax a "Hello World" out of the machine.

oh yeah.


Gravatarthat should have read...

Thanks to smoking, my mother started having serious trouble with the circulation in her legs by her mid-50's


Gravataryou feel the iciness creeping?
__

Well, the Rev Moon's organization does creep me out, although it does control some industries, probably where Jeb comes in. Years back Rev. Moon bought up the fish packing industry in Gloucester, MA. That was a shock to fishermen, as the worming/clamming/fishing concentration was not used to furriners coming in.


GravatarAnd unfortunately for Hillary, there's no White Bitch Month."
Godfrey Harold Hardy | 03.01.08 - 12:26 am | # [kill]​[hide comment]


If they're gonna start passing that shithead off as a pundit, I'm emigrating to Estonia.


GravatarWow! Amazing. The turnout is already several times what it was in 2004 apparently.

243% actually.

The insane number is from Harris County (that's Houston).

That cannot be good news for Clinton.


Gravatargn, people.

i shall dream of electric crotch shots.


Gravatarstrawhat | 03.01.08 - 12:23 am | #

One of the worst effects of smoking is that it makes the face really hard and brittle (as you saw).

And the lung problems, losing your sense of smell and taste, etc., etc..


GravatarFor those of you quitting smoking:

Dramarama, "Last Cigarette"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4...h? v=4Yy4RENVtbs

[Molly Ivors would, I think, approve]

Unfortunately, as noted above, Smithereens "Cigarette" doesn't seem to be available on the Intertoobz.

... and I should go to bed.


GravatarAnd unfortunately for Hillary, there's no White Bitch Month."
Godfrey Harold Hardy | 03.01.08 - 12:26 am | #

That's a really stupid line, and I'm not a Hillary supporter.


GravatarHeee, Ohio Rethugs make their own primary ballot confusing to themselves.


GravatarIf they're gonna start passing that shithead off as a pundit, I'm emigrating to Estonia.

He had Fran Drescher on too- cause a washed up tv actress has so much to tell me about voting.


FEH.


GravatarI never picked up the habit. The last time I "smoked" was when a friend of mine dared me to inhale (no Clinton jokes, please).

I did, and coughed, literally, for a couple of minutes.


GravatarIf they're gonna start passing that shithead off as a pundit, I'm emigrating to Estonia.

There are far worse places you could go.

Course, the language is a bitch, but if you've got Finnish already ...

... and with that, I really am.


GravatarAfter a physical, my doc once told me I was in pretty good shape, for being addicted to carbon monoxide.


Gravatar
And the lung problems, losing your sense of smell and taste, etc., etc..


"I want to die. When am I going to die?"

My mother, 3 days before lung cancer ended her life.


GravatarOne of the worst effects of smoking is that it makes the face really hard
__

also people's color. After years, smokers have a yellowish cast. Giving up smoking, the face becomes pink and regular color after a few weeks. It's a circulation thing, but also smoking puts a strain on the liver.


GravatarMP, I'm quite amused by that



Gravatarfourlegsgood, gots torch du U? | Homepage | 03.01.08 - 12:37 am | #

I saw that. I ended up shutting it off. Headache inducing, like bad heavy metal music.

And since when is Dreschler (or Bradley Whitford for that matter) educated in real politics? Whitford played a political operative on TV, he isn't one in real life, you know.

CNN must have forgot that one.


Gravatar"I want to die. When am I going to die?"

My mother, 3 days before lung cancer ended her life.


Ack. My father died from lung cancer (it had spread to his brain).

Not a good way to die.


GravatarEvening all.
I see its critters day here at the crack den.


GravatarIf they're gonna start passing that shithead off as a pundit, I'm emigrating to Estonia.

I've always wanted to travel to Estonia. Seriously.

Tarkovsky shot his film Stalker there when it was still part of the Soviet empire.


Gravatar243% actually.

Same story here.


Gravatar"I want to die. When am I going to die?"

My mother, 3 days before lung cancer ended her life.
Richard


My moms' last words were, "Maybe you better give me the morphine."

Talk about being haunted for the rest of your life...


GravatarI saw that. I ended up shutting it off.

Me too.

Apparently Sam Gangee loves Hillary.


Dood, U played a hobbit. Stick with that plz


Gravatar4Legs,

Have a look at this.


GravatarI am going to put on my jammies, read a little, and enjoy some lowbrow TV.

Love to all of you, dear friends.


GravatarSame story here.
The Old Man From Scene 24


Where are you?


Gravatar
Apparently Sam Gangee loves Hillary.


Dood, U played a hobbit. Stick with that plz
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?


Isn't he the spawn of Patty Duke?


GravatarNight, all


Peace.


GravatarThat's lines of people waiting to vote.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?


That's amazing.
.


GravatarHave a look at this.

NICE!!

I love bats.


GravatarWilliam F. Buckley, the Libertarian spokesmodel, said at the end of his life, that if given the authoritarian opportunity, he would enthusiastically outlaw smoking in the US.


GravatarWhere are you?

KS.

75% Obama


GravatarIsn't he the spawn of Patty Duke?

Yes, I guess he is. Forgot about that.


GravatarI've always wanted to travel to Estonia. Seriously.

Get a load of this.


Gravatar
Dood, U played a hobbit. Stick with that plz
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?



Dude. I'm going to be a dick here, and ask what the fuck was that?

Since when did we start telling people, celebrity or otherwise to shut up about who we support?


GravatarBarry, did U see this?

http://ohnoespolitiks.blogspot.c...om-nom- nom.html


GravatarI'm in love with Stephanie Miller...


GravatarI've always wanted to travel to Estonia. Seriously.

Tarkovsky shot his film Stalker there when it was still part of the Soviet empire.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin


I've been to Talinn. It's got a great old medieval part of town.

And a lotta Finns coming over on the ferry buying vodka.....


GravatarI figure that Ripley is smarter than those fuckers on Larry King.


GravatarHave a look at this.

Fruit bats? I remember the first time I saw a fruit bat.. I thought to my self "thats a big bird" and then did a double take cos birds don't have bat wings.


GravatarPhila, Pizen Sarpint | Homepage | 03.01.08 - 12:44 am | #

Amazing stuff...thanks...


GravatarDude. I'm going to be a dick here, and ask what the fuck was that?

He just irritated me. He was screaming about how Obama is unqualified.


He can talk, but I don't have to listen. So I changed the channel.


Mostly the gripe is about Larry King, his show is retarded.


GravatarOld Man, where in KS? I spent a few years in Overland Park. Coming from CA, Kansas was bizarre. Watching one lightning system could take a minute. We loved driving out into endless wheat fields, and the sky is SO BIG.


GravatarOne of the worst effects of smoking is that it makes the face really hard and brittle (as you saw).

Look at the members of the Wheezencough Society gathered around the service entrance, loading dock, or just out in front of the office buildings. Any of 'em look happy to be there? I do a lot of work in office buildings, and I see 'em all the time (so do most of you). Mizzble bunch. Not a more put-upon group in our whole society, by the looks of 'em...


Gravatar
Mostly the gripe is about Larry King, his show is retarded.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?


Well, that I can get behind 120%


GravatarI never picked up the habit. The last time I "smoked" was when a friend of mine dared me to inhale (no Clinton jokes, please).

I did, and coughed, literally, for a couple of minutes.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin | 03.01.08 - 12:38 am | #


I grew up in a houseful of smokers (both parents and 3 siblings) While in high school I once spent the better part of a month putting loads in their cigarettes.

It was fun to see cigarettes blow up in their faces.


GravatarEstonia, Tarkovsky style....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P...h? v=Pz1rxzCL1sY


GravatarNice to see some bats, such ancient animals. Reptilian.


GravatarOld Man, where in KS? I spent a few years in Overland Park. Coming from CA, Kansas was bizarre. Watching one lightning system could take a minute. We loved driving out into endless wheat fields, and the sky is SO BIG.

Sprint?

I work in OP. KC's cheap compared to CA, eh?


GravatarSince when did we start telling people, celebrity or otherwise to shut up about who we support?

Anyone, my inelegant point is not that they shouldn't have opinions, but that the idea that their opinions are more interesting or valid than ours because they're famous is really stupid.


GravatarI found the old clips on Youtube of the William F. Buckley/Norm Chomsky discussions of US hegemeony just fascinating as all get out.


Gravatar...and the sky is SO BIG.
el


Got 180 degrees, and it uses 'em all...


GravatarWait.
What the fuck is Hannity doing on her "heroes" list?

http://profile.myspace.com/ index...iendid=80129281

I don't like her anymore...


GravatarNo, not Sprint. Back in the day when I lived with my folks.

Where do you work?


GravatarAnyhoo, I haz to go to bed. I promised to spend the weekend undermining democracy by canvassing for the Obama campaign.


GravatarBarry, did U see this?

http://ohnoespolitiks.blogspot.c...pot.c...om-nom- nom.html
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?


Saw the site earlier, don't remember that posting

Errr... new Hidey PrOn, just 5 minutes old.


GravatarA beautiful scene from Stalker...the white stuff in the beginning of the scene is not snow, but poisonous gas from a nearby hydro-electric plant. Many in the crew died of cancer, and it is highly possible this was the reason.

http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=F...feature=related


GravatarWhere do you work?

Not Sprint :p


Gravatarheat ray gun deployed?

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/ Mi...ps_60_0229.html


GravatarErrr... new Hidey PrOn, just 5 minutes old.

Barry from Alaska 01-20-09


eeek!!

x-rated kitteh


GravatarWatching those calm, well articulated exchanges by two very intelligent people, one of whom I believe was very wrong, just re-inforced how, really puerile things are now, with Hannity's pre-screened "Yer a great American" horseshit.


GravatarOh NOES!!

the pickler iz in mah city

Texas has 193 delegates up for grabs Tuesday. Of those delegates, 126 will come from the primary, and 67 from the caucus.

———

Associated Press Writer Nedra Pickler in Austin contributed to this report.


GET HER OUT!!!


Gravatarhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/ 20080...nternet_news_dc
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Nearly 70 percent of Americans believe traditional journalism is out of touch, and nearly half are turning to the Internet to get their news, according to a new survey.

While most people think journalism is important to the quality of life, 64 percent are dissatisfied with the quality of journalism in their communities, a We Media/Zogby Interactive online poll showed.

"That's a really encouraging reflection of people who care A) about journalism and B) understand that it makes a difference to their lives," said Andrew Nachison, of iFOCOS, a Virginia-based think tank which organized a forum in Miami where the findings were presented.

Nearly half of the 1,979 people who responded to the survey said their primary source of news and information is the Internet, up from 40 percent just a year ago. Less than one third use television to get their news, while 11 percent turn to radio and 10 percent to newspapers.

More than half of those who grew up with the Internet, those 18 to 29, get most of their news and information online, compared to 35 percent of people 65 and older. Older adults are the only group that favors a primary news source other than the Internet, with 38 percent selecting television.

Howard Finberg, of the Poynter Institute in St. Petersburg, Florida, said the public often doesn't understand that the sources they are accessing online such as Google News and Yahoo News pull stories from newspapers, television, wire services and other media sources.

"It's delivered in a non-traditional form, that doesn't necessarily mean there isn't traditional journalism underneath it," he explained.

But Finberg said the study does support the belief among many large media companies that focusing on local issues is important to their journalistic and economic survival.


GravatarOh, HIDEY!!


/ shocked centaur voice


GravatarMP | 03.01.08 - 12:53 am | #

Absolutely. Buckley was wrong on a ton of things, but he's wasn't an arrogant, stupid ass like Hannity. Buckley was very articulate, civilized, and well read. But a conservative.


GravatarOh, and those folks gathered outside in the weather just so they can smoke -- when it's really nasty out (and it can get nasty in Chicago in winter) and there they are, that's the picture of addiction. You know they don't *want* to be out in the snow, but they *have* to. I'm glad I quit when I could still smoke at my desk like a civilized person.


GravatarGET HER OUT!!!
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?


Whyn't u just keep her? Mebbe it'll get her offa mah newspaper pages...


Gravatareeek!!

x-rated kitteh
flory


Hi Stranger


GravatarGotta admit that every once in a while I miss seeing and feeling the Kansas thunderstorms rolling through.

But then my old friend sends me a picture of his car piled with snow and the memory fades...


GravatarNEW YORK (Reuters) - Nearly 70 percent of Americans believe traditional journalism is out of touch, and nearly half are turning to the Internet to get their news, according to a new survey.

Very well placed comment. Coming right after the Pickler remarks....


GravatarNEW YORK (Reuters) - Nearly 70 percent of Americans believe traditional journalism is out of touch, and nearly half are turning to the Internet to get their news, according to a new survey.

While most people think journalism is important to the quality of life, 64 percent are dissatisfied with the quality of journalism in their communities, a We Media/Zogby Interactive online poll showed.


Pffft. Zogby. I don't believe it


GravatarI presume that someone by now has done the Hidey Ho pun, but just in case, here it is...


Gravatar
heat ray gun deployed?


War of the Worlds (1953) The Martian heat ray
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Vf4tWAohkmw


GravatarI'm glad I quit when I could still smoke at my desk like a civilized person.
strawhat


When CA decided you couldn't smoke in bars anymore was the last straw for me.
Glad I never had to put up with running outside at work.


GravatarGotta admit that every once in a while I miss seeing and feeling the Kansas thunderstorms rolling through.

But then my old friend sends me a picture of his car piled with snow and the memory fades...


heh the thunderstorms are fun, but I'm glad I have a basement...

We don't tend to get huge snowfalls tho. Its been cold this winter but we haven't even had a 6 inch fall this year.


GravatarLook who iz on mah blog?

http://plush-life.blogspot.com/2...hidey- pron.html


And nao I iz going to sleeps


GravatarI presume that someone by now has done the Hidey Ho pun, but just in case, here it is...
atablarasa


Now, be nice.

She does get called that all the time anyway.


GravatarHiya Barry.....

I take it ur home tonite?


GravatarAnd nao I iz going to sleeps
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?


That was tres pronto.


Gravatar
I take it ur home tonite?
flory


You would be taken correctly.


Gravatarheh the thunderstorms are fun, but I'm glad I have a basement...

__

twisters are fun too, and dramatic heading for the basement when the sirens start up. When we bought our house the realtor said the twisters all followed the interstate, but luckily always turned just before our house.

That was comforting.


GravatarGotta admit that every once in a while I miss seeing and feeling the Kansas thunderstorms rolling through.

used to go fishing out in the Flint Hills, watched tornadoes buzz by.


GravatarAbsolutely. Buckley was wrong on a ton of things, but he's wasn't an arrogant, stupid ass like Hannity

Being born into wealth, Buckley knew nothing other than the time to reflect as a young man.

Watch the last Charlie Rose interview, where he verbalized that, though he wouldn't commit suicide, he welcomed death.

I think he has encountering frailty, didn't like it whatsoever, and was beginning to rethink some things.

He recalled being asked to speak by ardent follwers, on the whatever anniversary of "Of God and Man At Yale", and he said that after looking at the book as an older man, he was appalled at how bad it was.


GravatarWar of the Worlds (1953) The Martian heat ray

A bit hokey & dated, but still better than that Tom Cruise piece of crap...


GravatarAnyhoo, I haz to go to bed. I promised to spend the weekend undermining democracy by canvassing for the Obama campaign.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?


whew, glad i caught ya before you split, you must have forgot to answer this earlier - it will inspire your fellow canvassers to know what an honest supporter really is ...

Upon learning about this, Obama's campaign sent out an analysis of the Clinton investments to news organizations which it asked not be attributed to the campaign:
It called Mrs. Clinton “Hillary Clinton (D-Punjab)” in its headline.


I'm sure you want to weigh in ...


GravatarElmer, PHD (horrible) | Homepage | 03.01.08 - 1:02 am | #

That film creeped me out as a kid. I was watching it the other day, and it still does. The film has a real strange look to it, almost a nightmare film, not really a sci-fi film.


GravatarWilliam F. Buckley was a fag.

That's right, you boys.


GravatarOld Man, I graduated from Goddard and spent more than a quarter century in Wichita, so I know all about bitter winters with one snow in October, one in March and cold wind all the way between, or three inches of frozen slush that won't go away because it never gets above 15 degrees for all of January. When I was in high school, one May we set a record high, a record low and a record high on three successive days.

And I believe it was the same day that OKC got hit with that F5 that Wichita got hit and I got caught in the edge of that tornado.


Gravatar
That film creeped me out as a kid. I was watching it the other day, and it still does. The film has a real strange look to it, almost a nightmare film, not really a sci-fi film.


I concur. Still pretty effective.


GravatarThat film creeped me out as a kid. I was watching it the other day, and it still does. The film has a real strange look to it, almost a nightmare film, not really a sci-fi film.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin


Then I'd say the director got what he wanted. Alien invasion would be pretty much of a nightmare, no?


Gravatar...the white stuff in the beginning of the scene is not snow, but poisonous gas from a nearby hydro-electric plant

Huh??

I have never heard of hydroelectric plants emitting poisonous gas, snow-like or otherwise. There are thousands of such plants around the world, surely somebody would have noticed local residents (like perhaps me, living in the midst of the TVA system) dropping over dead by now.

It's a dam for chrissakes. Water falls over it. Some of the water turns turbines. How does this produce "poisonous gas"?

Sheesh. One must not always take comments left on YouTube entries as documentaries on physics.


Gravataratablarasa | 03.01.08 - 1:06 am | #

Lived in Wichita for about 15 yrs, Topeka for 3, Lawrence for 7. Finally escaped Kansas.


GravatarI think it was very illustrative that the Republicans spitting on the ground about Nixon *wasn't* because he betrayed the public trust, but that he allowed himself to get caught.


Gravatar...the white stuff in the beginning of the scene is not snow, but poisonous gas from a nearby hydro-electric plant

Huh??


Cheney was visiting and farting.


GravatarThis movie completely scared the hell out of me when I was a kid...

Island of Terror
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zCrMkzS5K8E


GravatarTurks plan long-term stay in Northern Iraq
They are calling it IraqWar II.

According to Turkish military figures cited in Le Monde, the Turks plan to completely control Iraq's northern frontier, thus creating a buffer zone. Turkish forces next plan an assault on Mt. Qandil. There are even suggestions that the Turks plan on "recapturing" Mosul and Kirkuk.
-posted by Nur-al-Cubicle


GravatarXan | 03.01.08 - 1:09 am | #

Relax...I know what I'm talking about here. There was a chemical plant nearby emitting the white substance you see at the beginning of the film.

It was a chemical plant, not a hydroelectric plant. I made a mistake. They did shoot at a hydro electric plant for some scenes, but that wasn't one of them.


GravatarElmer, PHD (horrible) | Homepage | 03.01.08 - 1:09 am | #

Yes, it would.


GravatarCheney was visiting and farting.

Barry from Alaska 01-20-09


Oh, well, okay then, that explains it. But put the blame where it belongs, not on the hydro plant.

Sheesh.



Gravatarso I know all about bitter winters with one snow in October, one in March and cold wind all the way between, or three inches of frozen slush that won't go away because it never gets above 15 degrees for all of January.

hehe well I've lived in Madison, WI and Ann Arbor MI, so the winters here don't seem too bad! But yeah that seems to be the pattern, a big early snow, and another in March and cold but not much precip in between.

But the ice storms are entertaining


GravatarOh, well, okay then, that explains it. But put the blame where it belongs, not on the hydro plant.

Sheesh.


Xan


Would it be wrong of me to wonder if Cheney could make it thru one of the turbines at Grand Coulee?


GravatarLived in Wichita for about 15 yrs, Topeka for 3, Lawrence for 7. Finally escaped Kansas.

Lawrence was cool tho, right? I lived there for a while.


GravatarTurkish forces next plan an assault on Mt. Qandil. There are even suggestions that the Turks plan on "recapturing" Mosul and Kirkuk.
-posted by Nur-al-Cubicle


Well, then. That makes things kinda sporty.


GravatarVicki called about an hr 1/2 ago, no baby yet then.


GravatarMostly Shorter Dan Schnur:

"No fair! We thought McCain would be running against the Clintons! Now we'll have to make all new commercials and stuff! Bastards."

¡Vayamos!.


GravatarVicki called about an hr 1/2 ago, no baby yet then.

Ack!


Gravatar
Turkish forces next plan an assault on Mt. Qandil. There are even suggestions that the Turks plan on "recapturing" Mosul and Kirkuk.


Let's party like it's 1914.


GravatarTurkish forces next plan an assault on Mt. Qandil. There are even suggestions that the Turks plan on "recapturing" Mosul and Kirkuk.
-posted by Nur-al-Cubicle

Well, then. That makes things kinda sporty.
MP |


As long as they achieve their objectives quickly, and get out, I guess we're down widdat...


GravatarI s Vicki nearby or are they elsewhere?


GravatarJack Kingston still hasn't been able to find a flag pin that suits him.


GravatarI think it's kinda fascinating that until FDR, Americans were cool with electing a new President, then waiting four months for the inaugural.


GravatarAs long as they achieve their objectives quickly, and get out, I guess we're down widdat...
Elmer, PHD (horrible)


I thought they got out today, like they are done already.


GravatarVicki is in Grand Rapids and NimJen are in Traver's City. Don't know how close that is.


GravatarI think it's kinda fascinating that until FDR, Americans were cool with electing a new President, then waiting four months for the inaugural.

in this case I don't think we should wait more than 4 hours.

One good thing about the UK system is that when the change PMs, the new one is in office aprox. 12 hours after the polls close.


GravatarIt was a chemical plant, not a hydroelectric plant. I made a mistake. They did shoot at a hydro electric plant for some scenes, but that wasn't one of them.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin


Heh. I was just snarkin' around. Seeing that the YouTube comment was posted by "goblin girl" I didnt' want to come out with a full fledged slam or anything.

Chemical plant, yeah, this is plausible. Exceptionally artistic mind you, (voiceover, "Isn't that convEEEnient!") (/end voiceover) but plausible.


Gravatarjeebus, I love getting together - but i hate entertaining ... is it a grown up thing? 'cuz I wanna kick certain folks out, not hard - just OUT ... *sigh*


GravatarLawrence was cool tho, right? I lived there for a while.
The Old Man From Scene 24

luved it. I was in my late 30's worked mainly with Phd's & grad students, @ KU, got to live out @ NESA. That microbrewery just opened when I was leaving. Scary place. Built @ the old bus station, all of the piping in the restrooms made you think that they were recycling the brew.


GravatarLet's party like it's 1914.
Richard


Turkish memories of empire are only a couple generations dead. Which is to say,they aint...


GravatarDon't know how close that is.

Not close, but drivable in a few hours.


GravatarXan | 03.01.08 - 1:21 am | #

Yeah, Goblin Girl and I have a lot in common (wink, wink).

The Wiki entry (granted, not the most accurate place) is actually true about the film. I know because I went on there and wrote a lot of it myself. I also started the entry on Bela Tarr's Satantango because there wasn't one.

I rarely do it, but when it's so blatantly false, I get irritated and correct it. I had to do it with Sweet Movie a few months back.

Goblin Girl, Janeane the Acerbic Goblin, a startling coincidence...


Gravatarand they filmed Where Pigeons Go To Die, next to the reserve. Got to wave @ Art Carney & Micheal Landon on the way to work for a month.


GravatarThat microbrewery just opened when I was leaving. Scary place. Built @ the old bus station, all of the piping in the restrooms made you think that they were recycling the brew.

It was the Lawrence station for the interurban railway back in the day.

They make great beer there now. The 75th Street Brewery in KCMO is good, but not as good as the Free State IMO.


GravatarJaneane, do you like "The Goblin Market"?


GravatarI thought they got out today, like they are done already.

Barry from Alaska


Ah, but tomorrow's another day...


GravatarEchidne | Homepage | 03.01.08 - 1:29 am | #

Never heard of it. A band of sorts?


GravatarThey make great beer there now. The 75th Street Brewery in KCMO is good, but not as good as the Free State IMO.
The Old Man From Scene 24

the brews were good, just that visual thingie when you went to pee.


GravatarTurkish forces next plan an assault on Mt. Qandil. There are even suggestions that the Turks plan on "recapturing" Mosul and Kirkuk.
-posted by Nur-al-Cubicle


Um, this strikes me as ludicrous. The "recapturing Mosul and Kirkuk" parts anyway. Half of what is know as "Kurdistan" is in the geographical region known as Turkey, and they haven't been able to subdue/assimilate it for quite some decades now.

A claim that they are going to go into the part of "Kurdistan" that is inside the geographical borders of Iraq and take over great slabs of it is, even without the complication of it being under occupation by, um, us, seems a tad implausible.

I should shut up and go see what Juan Cole has to say about it, since what little I know about the region comes almost entirely from him anyway.


GravatarNever heard of it. A band of sorts?

A poem by Christina Rossetti. Really about sex, I think.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gob...i/ Goblin_Market


GravatarMy cat says hello.


Gravatarthe brews were good, just that visual thingie when you went to pee.

heheh they prolly sold it to Anheuser-Busch


GravatarLet's party like it's 1914.
Richard


Well done, sir.


GravatarEchidne | Homepage | 03.01.08 - 1:33 am | #

I saved it. Will read soon. Thanks, Echidne.


GravatarAre these oaths even legal? I mean, good lord, McCarthy has been dead for ages.


Gravatarheheh they prolly sold it to Anheuser-Busch
The Old Man From Scene 24 |

well, I am hung like a Clydesdale.


Gravatarwell, I am hung like a Clydesdale.

TMI


GravatarJuan Cole has had a change of heart and says we must unite and kill all the Islamo-fascists or else they'll establish a caliphate.

He is also upset that Romney isn't in the running for GOP president anymore.

-GSD


GravatarI visited the Danish brewery once. Carl-something? Their horses were beautiful and very well kept.


GravatarChimpy makes a really good Lawrence of Arabia II (Freddy Lives), kind of thing.


GravatarAre these oaths even legal? I mean, good lord, McCarthy has been dead for ages.

which Bush Administration incompetent claimed that she had "sworn an oath to the President" and got smacked down by a Senator for it? All these GOper incompetent ideologues are hard to keep track of.


GravatarI think that was Monica Goodling, another one of those Liberty U lackeys.

-GSD


GravatarI think that was Monica Goodling, another one of those Liberty U lackeys.


Ahh yes. Its interesting to note than when people like Scooter Libby get into legal jeopardy they hire lawyers from real law schools, and not Liberty U. types.


GravatarI visited the Danish brewery once. Carl-something? Their horses were beautiful and very well kept.
Echidne


Carlsburg, one of the two "standard beers" you can drink worldwide and be assured of quality.

Heineken is the other.


GravatarTMI
Echidne |

(they bob their tails)


Gravatarhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ 20080...ardous_material
LAS VEGAS - Firearms and an "anarchist type textbook" were found in the same motel room where several vials of the deadly toxin ricin was found, police said Friday.

The room was most recently occupied by a 57-year-old man who has been in critical condition with breathing problems at a hospital for more than two weeks.

Las Vegas police said there was no apparent link to terrorist activity, and no indication of any spread of the deadly substance beyond the several vials of powder found in a plastic bag in the man's room on Thursday. But what the ricin was doing there remained a mystery.
---------

I'n guessing that this guy was probably some right-wing psycho in the mold of Timothy McVeigh and the book in question was "the Turner Diaries". Being right-wing means you aren't a terrorist, of course.


Gravatarwhich Bush Administration incompetent claimed that she had "sworn an oath to the President" and got smacked down by a Senator for it? All these GOper incompetent ideologues are hard to keep track of.
The Old Man From Scene 24


I think you would have had to waterboard Thoms. Jefferson before he signed any "loyalty oath".

Just my opinion.


GravatarJuan Cole has had a change of heart and says we must unite and kill all the Islamo-fascists or else they'll establish a caliphate.

He is also upset that Romney isn't in the running for GOP president anymore.

-GSD
GSD


I hesitate to use terms like "full of shit" and 'asshole" at this time of night, given the likelihood that people are drinking and all.

so I will just say that the above turns out not to be even remotely the case.

On which note my hiccups and I are going to say bye bye, so long, farewell, etc.

hic.


GravatarThe room was most recently occupied by a 57-year-old man who has been in critical condition with breathing problems at a hospital for more than two weeks.

Las Vegas police said there was no apparent link to terrorist activity, and no indication of any spread of the deadly substance beyond the several vials of powder found in a plastic bag in the man's room on Thursday.


So from that I deduce that the guy is a white male "natural born" American.


GravatarI'm convinced that McCarthy himself was too dim-witted not to be astounded that his waving of an essentially blank piece of paper proclaiming names of "confirmed" Communists in the State Dept in that 1950, who gives a shit 1950 speech, would catapult him to the big leagues.

That's what separated him from Richard Nixon. Nixon *knew* that false inflammatory shit was the mother lode.


GravatarOn which note my hiccups and I are going to say bye bye, so long, farewell, etc.

hic.
Xan


BOOOO!!!!

Nite Zan.


GravatarFated To Pretend
-


Gravatarbeverage of choice to Richard.


GravatarI think you would have had to waterboard Thoms. Jefferson before he signed any "loyalty oath".

Indeed.


GravatarLas Vegas police said there was no apparent link to terrorist activity

This is an odd statement. Can't he be a terrorist all on his own? Or someone else if he was a victim?


GravatarSo from that I deduce that the guy is a white male "natural born" American.
The Old Man From Scene 24


There was guns and "anarchist textbook" also in the room.


Planted?... Cops are now gonna have to check the menu when they bust someone and drop evidence?

"Hey Harry, do we put the gun on the dopers, or the ricin?"


Gravatar
beverage of choice to Richard.


RC cola.


GravatarThere was guns and "anarchist textbook" also in the room.

Like I say, a homegrown angry white male who, as we know, (McVeigh, Rudolph, Anthrax mailer) never resort to terrorism.


GravatarLike I say, a homegrown angry white male who, as we know, (McVeigh, Rudolph, Anthrax mailer) never resort to terrorism.
The Old Man From Scene 24


Well, they isn't terriers, they is just the edge of the Bush Base.


GravatarXan, if you are still there:
hiccup.
immediately take deep breath and hold as long as possible while tensing up your stomach muscles.....push the hiccup out, downward.
when you don't think you can hold the breath any more, take one sip of water then exhale

cured


GravatarTo understand why Senator McCarthy's horseshit wasn't stillborn, you only need to realize that in our post WWII decisive victory, under the imprimateur of the US government, we were at the time, detonating megaton yield nuclear devices all over the globe.


GravatarHillary is the candidate of the 'establishment'.


Gravatarhttp://www.usnews.com/articles/b...rge- online.html


Gravatarhttp://www.adl.org/learn/news/ ri...icin_threat.asp
Domestic U.S. extremist groups have also been fascinated with ricin, to a much greater degree than any other chemical or biological agent (see Beyond Anthrax for more information on domestic extremists and chemical and biological agents). Domestic extremists have been responsible for several ricin-related incidents in the U.S.; these include:

*In 2000, a South African expatriate, Dr. Larry Ford, killed himself in Orange County, California, apparently because he was suspected in the attempted murder of his business partner two days earlier. A biotechnology entrepreneur, Ford also happened to be a white supremacist with a passion for neo-Nazi William Pierce’s novel “The Turner Diaries.” He also had ties to several anti-government extremist groups. Investigations after his death revealed that Ford possessed an unusual and deadly arsenal that ranged from machine guns and explosives to biological agents and quantities of ricin.


*In 1993, Thomas Lavy was detained along the Alaskan-Canadian border, apparently returning to his Arkansas home. Canadian officials discovered racist literature, weapons, 20,000 rounds of ammunition, cash, and 130 grams of ricin. When, some time later, federal authorities arrested Lavy, they found castor beans along with books that included instructions on making ricin. Lavy killed himself in his jail cell several days after his arrest.


*In 1992, members of the Minnesota Patriots Council, an anti-government extremist group, produced ricin, possibly to use against a U.S. deputy marshal and a deputy sheriff they disliked (they also discussed committing other crimes, such as blowing up a federal building). Three years later, four members--Leroy Wheeler, Douglas Baker, Dennis Henderson, and Richard Oelrich--were arrested and later convicted for possession of ricin (for use as a weapon).


GravatarThere was guns and "anarchist textbook" also in the room.

also had dogs in the room, one dead.

bet he's a fundie.


GravatarBack then. we tested big sub-surface nuclear bombs in places as unlikely as backwoodds Mississippi.


GravatarMcCain

Can he dance the lil two step or what?

http://tinyurl.com/28f5qf

And unfortunately Hagee lives and works in my town. Of course his church is nestled up to some of the more exclusive real estate in this place.


GravatarTo understand why Senator McCarthy's horseshit wasn't stillborn, you only need to realize that in our post WWII decisive victory, under the imprimateur of the US government, we were at the time, detonating megaton yield nuclear devices all over the globe.
MP


Sure threw a loop in Pete Seeger's career.


GravatarAll bebop licks sound the same.


GravatarBack then. we tested big sub-surface nuclear bombs in places as unlikely as backwoodds Mississippi.
MP


Atoms for Peace, it was called.

We were gonna trench our canals with nukes, or like the Carlsbad NM blast, fracture the ground strata so natural gas could be harvested.

Well, the NM blast didn't produce much gas, and you can't safely burn what little they did manage to get.


GravatarHussein Obama re Rezko: "I am not a crook."


GravatarNAIROBI, Feb 29 (Reuters) - Kenyan elders may impose a fine on U.S. presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton, payable in livestock, after a photo of her rival Barack Obama in robes dragged their people into the race for the White House.

The picture, which appeared on a U.S. Web site, showed the Illinois senator in a white headdress and traditional Somali attire during a 2006 visit to Wajir in Kenya's remote northeast.

Obama has battled a whispering campaign by fringe elements who wrongly say he is Muslim and his aides accused Clinton's campaign of "the most shameful, offensive fear-mongering" after the photograph was published.

Wajir elders resolved to file an official complaint with the U.S. Embassy in Nairobi, dropping earlier plans to hold a protest after Friday prayers.

They said they would also convene a traditional Somali court to investigate the matter. It can impose fines that are payable in cattle, goats or camels.

"We will go ahead with this case whether Senator Clinton or Democratic party leaders turn up or not," said Mohamed Ibrahim, a member of the clan that hosted Obama during his trip. "But this whole thing can be avoided if only an apology is made."

more......

http://africa.reuters.com/wire/ n...nL29354901.html


Gravatar"we tested big sub-surface nuclear bombs in places as unlikely as backwoodds Mississippi."

Really, never heard that.

Any links?


GravatarAP:

"Democrat Suicide Mission Continues: Obama Up In Texas..."


GravatarFound something on it.

http://minorjive.typepad.com/ hun...still_reme.html


GravatarReally, never heard that.

Any links?
EkCenTriK


No. From a documentary I rented. It was a huge deal though, and it took forever. They had to cordon off everything for a coupla years, get heavy drilling equipment in there.


GravatarAny links?
EkCenTriK




http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/...ests/ index.html


GravatarEkCenTriK,

http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/.../ Ustestmap3.jpg


GravatarI'm not much of a "pet person"...
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GravatarBack then. we tested big sub-surface nuclear bombs in places as unlikely as backwoodds Mississippi.
MP


whew, MP, I'm glad you're here ... we haven't seen you in awhile - we need you to get in contat with rootless-e, somebody earlier challenged him about being a troll - and he just disappeared ... luckily, you're here to pick up the slack ... oh, and did you ever give that $1,000.00 over to Eschaton? or no?


Gravataroh, and did you ever give that $1,000.00 over to Eschaton? or no?
looking for rootless-e


why is that any concern of yours? just askin'?


GravatarStill trust that HRC won't send your kids to war? Watch this. Listen to the woman at about 10:30. She, like everyone on this board at the time, laid out what would happen if we invaded. The economy would go into the shitter, etc. We were proven fucking right.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p...h? v=pYATbsu2cP8


GravatarBarry, I forgot about the Alaskan test as well. Boy we just loved popping a nuke here, there and everywhere back then.


GravatarBarry, I forgot about the Alaskan test as well. Boy we just loved popping a nuke here, there and everywhere back then.
EkCenTriK


Yea, we did. That map doesn't show the high altitude (rocket lifted) blasts we did to see what happened when a nuke went off in space or high atmosphere.

They wiped out all communications in the Pacific with one of em.


Gravatarwhy is that any concern of yours? just askin'? -MP

'cuz, i just thought it was such a nice gesture, that I would like to meet you ... but somehow, I got a feeling you won't be able to make it ... or maybe you already booked your room? tell us ...


GravatarBarry, I forgot about the Alaskan test as well.

The Aleutian test? Yeah, it made all of teh test trailers go up in the air 15 feet.

We see pristine geography, and it seems to really piss off a lot of the people in charge.


GravatarMP, do you know rootless-e?


GravatarMP, do you know rootless-e?

Curious troll, I'll give you that much.


GravatarWe see pristine geography, and it seems to really piss off a lot of the people in charge.
MP


The bomb the USSR did, the TSAR bomb over an island in the arctic ocean is the one I'm curious about. Largest nuke ever detonated, and it was just half strength. Not a deployable weapon, but why the fuck would anyone want to go and waste a huge, huge parcel of their own land just to make a point?

"Lookee here, I'm gonna shit in my cage a whole bunch, and if you mess with me, I'll shit on you." That's just silly. Both sides did it.


GravatarCurious troll, I'll give you that much. -MP

whoa, you are co-tivo, do you know rootless-e?


GravatarThis evening Attorney General Michael Mukasey, as expected, refused to prosecute the contempt of Congress resolutions against White House officials Josh Bolten and Harriet Miers for their refusal to testify in the U.S. attorneys scandal.

way to go, Schumer


GravatarErinPDX

Believe it or not, that video gave me the chills at the end. The moment she popped the "I am the Senator from New York!" routine, she totally lost me.


GravatarTsar Bomba. Nobody really knows the actual yield. But most agree that it was over 50 megatons.

Those poor pilots. It was chute dropped from a modded prop bomber. Everyone assumes it was a jet.

The Russians wanted to go with an even bigger blast, but even with their propaganda, any prop pilot knew that was a last mission.

That bomb drop was the incident that UN Secretary Adlai Stevenson famously confronted Russia.

It really was getting *way* out of hand.


GravatarCurious troll, I'll give you that much. -MP


Gravataranybody interested in auroras?
http://salmon.nict.go.jp/live/ au...rora_cam_e.html


Gravatarhello, all. hey, Erin. Got your email. I've been pretty sick since Jan 17th, so am just recuperating, mostly.


GravatarEkCenTriK

yeah
i'd best not watch it again
i think it's all over except the fat lady singing.


GravatarHey Sarah!


GravatarThose poor pilots. It was chute dropped from a modded prop bomber. Everyone assumes it was a jet.

The Russians wanted to go with an even bigger blast, but even with their propaganda, any prop pilot knew that was a last mission.

That bomb drop was the incident that UN Secretary Adlai Stevenson famously confronted Russia.

It really was getting *way* out of hand.
MP


Pilots lived, so what "poor pilots" are you refering to? Heck, he was even made a hero of the USSR for doing the drop.

The Bear Bomber, yea it's a turboprop, the USSR never really went for Jet Bombers, is an impressive piece of machinery. It's a very, very fast propeller plane, and not something to be easily blown off.

What really scared the USSR was how we were able to make accurate drops, re-entries et al, and they just never put the resources into that effort. Always went for bigger, and the blast circle will include what they wanted to hit.





GravatarSarah Deere

Oh no!
several people have been asking about you.
was worried about your institution as well...


Gravatar"Always went for bigger, and the blast circle will include what they wanted to hit."

Sort of the George W. Bush theory of liberating a country.


Gravatarwillie/dylan 08

go figure...


GravatarI think the biggest US atmospheric test was in the Castle series, Castle Bravo or Castle Romeeo, maybe 20 megatons, and defintely not dropped from an airplane.


Gravatarlistening to The Crusaders


Gravatarhello, all. hey, Erin. Got your email. I've been pretty sick since Jan 17th, so am just recuperating, mostly.
Sarah Deere


Sorry to learn of your illness.

Get well dear lady.


GravatarCrusaders - very good.

Persuasions - even better, IMHO.

And Sarah - glad to read you're getting better! Welcome back.


GravatarCurious troll, I'll give you that much. -MP

and we appreciate it so much ... but, it's funny that you won't answer the question ... do you know 'rootless-e'? . cuz we have plenty of thread- divers who search your comments ... and we do liar- so come clean (the better choice) or stfu and be exposed as a ... - cuz I already got ya ...


GravatarSo from that I deduce that the guy is a white male "natural born" American.
The Old Man From Scene 24

Just because the vast preponderance of terror acts in the US over the past two decades have been committed by angry white males, that's no reason to profile them.


Gravatar"that's no reason to profile them."

You start profiling the average angry white guy and there will never be a flight leaving the ground on time again.


GravatarJust because the vast preponderance of terror acts in the US over the past two decades have been committed by angry white males, that's no reason to profile them.
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office


No, he was part of the white muslim nation?



Jeebuz


GravatarPilots lived, so what "poor pilots" are you refering to?

I dunno, I just think that in 1962, yer basic Russian pilot dropping yer basic biggest ever nuclear detonation from a red-lined prop plane wouldn't be a mission I would volunteer for.


Gravatardamned, supper turned out good. big ol pork picnic roast, on a bed of rice soaked in pineapple/orange juice/creme of chicken soup, slow roasted for 3 hrs, then smothered with broccoli covered & cooked for another 40 minutes.


GravatarSort of the George W. Bush theory of liberating a country.
EkCenTriK


Well, unless it's Turkey.

I've got a theory (channeling Monty Python), its my theory and my theory goes thusly: Bush told the Turks to get the F out, or he was gonna bomb them.

Ya see, Iwreck is his, and his alone.

Thats my theory.


Oh, I guess in the spirit of Right Wing Radio, I should throw in an "allegedly" in there somewhere.


GravatarI dunno, I just think that in 1962, yer basic Russian pilot dropping yer basic biggest ever nuclear detonation from a red-lined prop plane wouldn't be a mission I would volunteer for.
MP


By that time, that pilot had more idea what he was getting into than Paul Tibbets did over Hiroshima.


GravatarPilots lived, so what "poor pilots" are you refering to?
MP


so then, you do know rootless-e? yes?


Gravatardamned, supper turned out good. big ol pork picnic roast, on a bed of rice soaked in pineapple/orange juice/creme of chicken soup, slow roasted for 3 hrs, then smothered with broccoli covered & cooked for another 40 minutes.
1Watt, Hermit

I'll give you the address for sending the leftovers.


GravatarChe Leno isn't funny. He really isn't.


Gravatarwill you try to change things... use the power that you have... the power of a million new ideas?


GravatarHi Sarah!


GravatarI've got a theory (channeling Monty Python), its my theory and my theory goes thusly: Bush told the Turks to get the F out, or he was gonna bomb them.

i'z got a better theory, the turks went in as a show of force, then went back to the buffer zone, if the Pkk strikes again they'll return. Who learns a lesson is the winner.


GravatarAP:

"In Obama, Democrats About To Nominate Most Liberal Candidate Since McGovern.."


GravatarThank goodness there's finally a liberal running.


GravatarBy that time, that pilot had more idea what he was getting into than Paul Tibbets did over Hiroshima.

Barry from Alaska 01-20-09


Wasn't Colonel Tibbets, all 29 years of him, fully briefed on what he was embarking upon? Up front?

Look, I know neither the captain of that ship, nor anyone else, could have really known what would unfold that day.

But from that day on, you could never say that, with any degree of plausibility.


GravatarSarah Deere, was if a flu?


GravatarI'll give you the address for sending the leftovers.
Roadmaster

the septic tank is due for a pumping.


GravatarPilots lived, so what "poor pilots" are you refering to? -MP

sorry, it just seems wierd: that rootless leaves and then you always seem to appear, arguing the same points, it's almost like you know each others needs


Gravataret, time to sleep.


Gravatarfokowi
nice
Terry Kath RIP


Gravatarwas just for you, darlin'...


GravatarCan't wait till the 4th...

Texas early voting.

Total Votes as of 2/28/08 :959,666

Republican : 242,197

Democratic : 717,469


Gravatar"the most disappointing AP correction of all time"

http://wonkette.com/362649/assoc...after-all- sorry
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Gravatar{{{Sarah Deere}}}

I've been thinking of you.


GravatarTotal Votes as of 2/28/08 :959,666

Republican : 242,197

Democratic : 717,469
EkCenTriK | 03.01.08 - 3:00 am | #


that can't possibly be correct. mcm tells me that all the national polls show a near dead heat mccain vs anybody...


Gravatar"that can't possibly be correct. mcm tells me that all the national polls show a near dead heat mccain vs anybody..."

Yeah, I have been a bit worried about that. But again, tell me who this McCain person is?


GravatarTibbet's weapon had never been tested. The scientists and engineers were so confident in the gun fire model of a fission bomb, that Hiroshima was actually their alpha test.

The exquisitely timed, implosive plutonium weapon, was Nagasaki.

And also Crossroads Baker, in the Bikini Islands, which is the famous 1946 underwater detonation resulting in the perfect mushroom cloud, and what many baby boomers probably associate with the nuclear age.


GravatarThe Crossroads Baker blast was essentially the same as the plutonium Trinity explosion, 21 kilotons, only underwater.


Gravatarit's 3 am somewhere, maybe everywhere...


GravatarYeah, I have been a bit worried about that. But again, tell me who this McCain person is?
EkCenTriK | 03.01.08 - 3:04 am | #


he's the guy getting about 1/2 of the 25% of the turnout.

er somethin' like that...


GravatarThe Crossroads Baker blast was essentially the same as the plutonium Trinity explosion, 21 kilotons, only underwater.
MP


I tire of talking about nukes, they both fascinate me and depress me.

I've spent too many hours looking at test results, Faultless is particularly depressing.

They is just bad.


Richard Feynman and Oppenheimer, remain as personal heroes however.


GravatarBefore I sign off, My point is that there are hundreds of nations on this globe. And right now, most of them are afraid of us.

And I don't like that.


GravatarHello and goodnight, Sarah. It's good to *see* you.

Be well.


Gravatarmy only contribution to this is: In Philly, tomorrow night:



Immigrant Immigrant Immigrant Stomp!!!!!!!


GravatarBefore I sign off, My point is that there are hundreds of nations on this globe. And right now, most of them are afraid of us.

And I don't like that.
MP


Do my job, and fly to those places, not all the glamor that is associated with jet travel at all.

Armed guards to get me from the hotel to the airport in Nairobi? That's a bit much.


GravatarPHOENIX - John McCain is refusing to renounce the endorsement of a prominent Texas televangelist who Democrats say peddles anti-Catholic and other intolerant speech.

Instead, the Republican presidential candidate issued a statement Friday afternoon saying he had unspecified disagreements with the San Antonio megachurch leader, John Hagee. Hagee endorsed him at a news conference Wednesday in San Antonio.


Gravatar(º)(º)


Gravatarbut even then i knew i'd find a much better place. either with or without you...


GravatarNations react the way you think they would, when they see a nuclear power feel the need to roll tanks into a nation on the other side of the globe.

They get nervous as hell.

And it's fucking stupid as shit for the United States to fucking be doing that.


Gravatarhey back to all you guys!

no, not flu, had double pneumonia and a "respiratory collapse" - Mr Deere found me on the floor, called 911. Was in ICU unconscious for 12 days. My family was - truly - measuring me for a shroud. I apparently astounded the docs when I came out of it without brain damage (guess my CO2 levels were pretty high), and even more so when I was able to leave the hospital without needing oxygen, or even pills for my heart (atrial fib). Everything just sort of...worked out. I left hospital on 2/2 (Groundhog's Day - I figured it was a good omen) and went to a skilled nursing facility for 3 weeks, dealing w/Occup and Phys Therapists. Got home - finally! - a week ago. Sleeping lots and trying to gain weight. Glad to be here - and that means all that "here" means.


Gravatarand by the way - I was so saddened to hear of Darryl Pearce's passing. A good man lost to us.


GravatarSarah, you've been through so much the past year.


GravatarGlad to have you back, Sarah Deere, in both senses.


GravatarGood morning, moonbats!

As I promised, although I am rarely up for late night blogging anymore (miss the late night crew), I am pleased to report that there is progress in the land of new hamhocks of liberty.

The Nimster just called me, and my sister has been admitted into the hospital for birth. Dilated to 4 and fully effaced, she is preparing to purge the spawn of liberty from her womb.

Wish Nim and Jen well.

It ain't a leap baby, but it's coming in like a lion, on March 1, 2008!

Adam Alexander, Bitches!


GravatarHurray for Jen! Such happy news, Vicki.


GravatarAunt V !


GravatarHey Echidne and Gilly, thought the blog would like to know.

They were stalled in the land of limbo yesterday afternoon!

I'm so glad!

Nim is such a sweet guy - he's so geeked about this!


GravatarAdam Alexander ESCHATON Hamhock? Shouldn't it be?

Just kidding.

Thanks for letting us know, Vicki. I'm smiling as I type and sending good and slippery energy to Jen.


GravatarAll right, back to bed.

I'll report more, as the news comes into gossip central!

Peace.


GravatarOver the rainbow
http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=u...feature=related


GravatarIf anything happens in November, I want this Nation's international posture to become something other than a drunken bully, who got punched right between the eyes on 9/11.


GravatarHEY ERIN PDX!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

YOU ARE GETTING A HAMHOCK FROM THE MICHIGAN CONTINGENT!


GravatarIt's your birthday, Erin? Very merry birthday to you!

And good night, all.


Gravataroh, excellent news re: Jen & Nim!
and, Erin - it's your birthday?? Happiest of days to you!


GravatarEchidne - many thanks for your kind thoughts. XXOO.


GravatarSarah Deere ~

Everyone has always loved you. You are a special woman.


GravatarSeriously, off to bed.

I'll post as information becomes available.



Peace.


Gravatarwhoo hoo!
Best to Jen! (okay, Nim too)

thanks guys (shh)


GravatarSarah Deere, I'm so very happy to see you!


GravatarThis makes me very happy
Europa - Tuck Andress
http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=N...feature=related


Gravataroutta here... congrats to vicki/family and happy birthday to erinpdx, you old fart.

nighty


GravatarMcCain Tags Dems on Trade Treaty

ROUND ROCK, Texas (AP) - Republican John McCain said the desire by Democratic presidential rivals Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama to renegotiate the North American Free Trade Agreement would jeopardize crucial military support from Canada.


GravatarSarah, people have been asking after you so!


GravatarMcCain clearly does not know what Canadians think of NAFTA.


GravatarLook, the US economy talks in terms of trillions.

That alone should speak to the fact that there *has* to be some leftover to help people.


Gravatar"One of our greatest assets in Afghanistan are our Canadian friends. We need our Canadian friends, and we need their continued support in Afghanistan," McCain said. "So what do we do? The two Democratic candidates for president say they're going to unilaterally abrogate NAFTA.


GravatarBlogwhoring, cause it's late at night.

Spellering corrections accepted.


http://www.ptarmigannest.net/?p=533


GravatarThere are various ways to frame it, many of which beg charges of heresy. For example: The American people are so darned productive that not everyone HAS to work all the time.


Gravatarhey, plantsman! hope things ease up for you and that you can once again enjoy some gardening. I well understand $$ worries and how... it can make one feel claustrophobic just trying to get through a day and not being able to go nuts (in a fun way) now and then to beat the effing tedium.


GravatarMcCain used a town-hall style meeting Friday at Dell Inc. headquarters to emphasize his support for NAFTA. The effects of the 1994 trade pact are still hotly debated, but studies indicate the deal has resulted in record exports from Texas to Canada and Mexico.


Gravatarerinpdx. tuck is unfuckingreal.

thank you.

peace...


GravatarFirst, don't accept McCain's framing of what Canadians want . You'll notice he only comes from a bellicose warrior's point of view: how Canada can assist us in meeting our military aims.

Not how we want their oil, their fresh water, their softwoods dirt cheap.


GravatarGood night all
peace


GravatarI kinda feel sorry for john mccain.


GravatarROUND ROCK, Texas (AP) - Republican John McCain said the desire by Democratic presidential rivals.... ....would jeopardize crucial military support from Canada.



'morning all.

Howdy Sarah good to hear from you.


GravatarSTOP THE PEBBLE MINE.

A Canadian Company wants to suck the gold out of Alaska, and leave us with Arsenic.

http://www.renewableresourcescoa...g/rrc5-7- 07.wmv

Help if you can.


Gravatarokay, I'm off to bed. So good to "see" all of you. I've missed you.
best,
SD


GravatarBarry, re: Pebble Mine - will do on the morrow. Bastards.


GravatarIf I was Commander in Chief on 9-11, invading Iraq with everything I had, would be number 157 on my priority list.

I would consolidate my fleeting global solidarity, and capture Osama bin Laden.

That's what I would do.


GravatarBarry, re: Pebble Mine - will do on the morrow. Bastards.
Sarah Deere


Get well Sarah, then take up the fight.

Bestes to ya.


GravatarI'm doing the best I can, Sarah; trying feverishly to push my need to refill ongoing prescriptions away from the first of the month so all money woes don't come at once -- but there's very little flexibility in those numbers. I'm noting every blooming bulb and swelling bud as I bus about, and shepherding the few plants I have toward spring.


Gravatar
I would consolidate my fleeting global solidarity, and capture Osama bin Laden.

That's what I would do.
MP


WHAT?

Not do the more pressing show some kids that you could read at their level? Almost.




GravatarOf course, I'm not purportinf to be from Wset Texas, nor did Karl Rove ever instruct me how to conduct my adult life.


Gravatara bad person? I'm not a bad person! Dik cheney, now there's a bad person.


GravatarBob Herbert: A Nominee? Or A Debacle ?

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/0....html?th& emc=th


GravatarGuns, 'Anarchist Book' Found With Ricin

LAS VEGAS (AP) - Firearms and an "anarchist type textbook" were found in the same motel room where several vials of the deadly toxin ricin was found, police said Friday.


GravatarWhoWill the FBI get first, Clemens or the Anthrax killer?


GravatarNice Dell Logo McCain.


Gravatar"Dude, you're startin' to smell!"


GravatarThe economy is great for Dell all their customer service people are in India and everything is made in China.


GravatarThe economy is great for Dell all their customer service people are in India and everything is made in China.
Unrepentant Fenian


I think you need to refer that to Jeffriam Prestonian, and how he got fired from Dell.


GravatarAnd Northrup/Airbus was the low-bid winner for our new fleet of aerial refueling tankers. Yay! Or Not.


GravatarThe economy is great for Dell all their customer service people are in India and everything is made in China.
Unrepentant Fenian


The only reason the Pacific Rim invites us to the party, is that we're willing to pay double the cover charge. On the plastic.


GravatarGee, I missed Roger "Not the Fat, Short, Repulsive One" Ailes' obit of Buckley.

As usual: spot on!


GravatarNot that anyone gives a doody, but I will now head to bed, or the safe confines of my car in the garage. (Yea Duncan, I have a car)

Some really bad shit has happened this week , under the wire mostly, and I is depressed.

Still, I love my moonbats, and am proud to be one of em.

Nite all.


GravatarHang in there, Barry. I knowes depressed and getting through it.


GravatarAnd Northrup/Airbus was the low-bid winner for our new fleet of aerial refueling tankers. Yay! Or Not.
plantsman, persona non grata


Chalk that one up to a fuck up by Ted Stevens, and that cow that was working for Boeing and still on procurement for the AirForce when they floated out that lease deal 6 years ago.

Payback time.


GravatarSo, against most odds Nim and Jen's baby was a leap-day baby?


GravatarIt just astounds me that most Americans seem cool with the fact that we have to borrow heavily from Europe and Asia each year to run this country.


GravatarSorry, forgot Roger's links are always challenged, for some reason... scroll down to the post titled "Joe McCarthy and Bull Connor, Meet Your New Roommate" for his Buckley obit.


GravatarIf Buckley was so high-minded, how did Modern Conservatism end up being the most vulgar political movement of all time?


GravatarSo, against most odds Nim and Jen's baby was a leap-day baby?

I think he is in the process of being born, so not a leap-day baby but March 1 baby, probably.


GravatarErinPDX will NEVER forget his birthday then!


GravatarMagazine . . . DONE!!!!!!


Gravatar{{Barry}}


GravatarMagazine . . . DONE!!!!!!

The presses and all? There probably aren't any presses anymore. Why are you working at night?


GravatarAnyway. I was supposed to go to bed a long time ago. Have a good Saturday.


Gravatar{{Barry}}
Echidne



What did I do this time?


GravatarIt's why I get so pissed off at hacks like Samuelson and Will.
OK, the Iraq War expenditures only represent a small portion of our GDP?

Who gives a shit? Our *great* US consumer driven economy ficking mortgages the neighbor's house every year to make ends meet.

Deficit spending is *not* good, Cheney, you Wyoming small town ass.


Gravatarjust uploaded the files. So, tomorrow . . . sex and alcohol


GravatarAnd Northrup/Airbus was the low-bid winner for our new fleet of aerial refueling tankers. Yay! Or Not.
plantsman, persona non grata

Her name is Darlene Druyan, worked for Boeing and the USAF procurment office during the aborted lease deal. Aborted because of her conflict of interest.

She screwed the Boeing deal 6 years ago, by being cute with employment, and who she worked for.

The AF had no choice today but to say they went with clean hands.

Now try to write this stuff at the Seattle Post Intellengicer site, you are gonna get creamed.

But Darlene nixed the 767 tanker all on her own, there is no doubt.

Where did my bed and cats move to, I gotta fine em.


Gravatar'morning, peeps. Who broke the blog?

Barry -- I'm huggin' ya, too.

Do we have an Echatot?


GravatarIt just astounds me that most Americans seem cool with the fact that we have to borrow heavily from Europe and Asia each year to run this country.
MP | 03.01.08 - 4:22 am | #

Well, they don't understand the implications. They aren't discussed in a logical, rational manner in the media. There are many taboo subjects, this is one of them.


GravatarI haven't flown in a long while - but the trips I did take in 767's were blissfully unmarred by any negative "incidents".


GravatarSarah

"when I came out of it without brain damage"


Well, you are an Atriot, it tends to callous one up in that regard.


And good for you on your recovery.


GravatarThe last check-in I saw by Vicki was not definitive, dang it!


GravatarJeez, just reading about Sarah's illness.

WTF! That's so awful. Glad to hear she pulled through OK. Sorry I missed giving her a virtual hug.


GravatarMukasey won't refer Contempt charges to grand jury. Big shock.


GravatarMukasey won't refer Contempt charges to grand jury. Big shock.
plantsman, persona non grata


Unbelievable. Welkom to Amerika.


GravatarAnd Bushboy disses Obama from the podium at his presser as if the country is turning to him for sage advice after the disasters of his two terms.


GravatarMorning peeps.


GravatarGood morning -

How is everyone doing today?

peace and pretzels


Gravatarpeace & pretzels

nice breakfast, don't mind if I do.


GravatarV4V is having problems with haloscan.

Would be nice if Avedon showed up with a new thread.


GravatarGood morning V4Va, ql, and plantsman.

peace and pretzels


GravatarIt's why I get so pissed off at hacks like Samuelson and Will.
OK, the Iraq War expenditures only represent a small portion of our GDP?


On Thursday, Joseph Stiglitz told the congressional Joint Economic Committee that $3 trillion was at the low end of estimated war costs. After factoring in the cost of weapons and operations, future health-care costs for veterans, interest on foreign loans used to fund the war, and future borrowing, Stiglitz said the costs of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan would be somewhere between $5 trillion and $7 trillion for the US alone. Another estimated $6 trillion will be borne by other countries, he said.

Stiglitz, former chief economist for the World Bank and a Nobel laureate, is co-author with Harvard economics professor Linda Bilmes of The Three Trillion Dollar War: The True Cost of the Iraq Conflict, a book released Friday. The book builds on 2006 research that estimated the cost of the so-called war on terror in excess of $1 trillion.

Officially, the US spends $16 billion every month to occupy Iraq and Afghanistan, but this figure includes only direct expenses.

The White House, which refused to testify before the Joint Economic Committee on the cost of the war, reacted to Stiglitz’s remarks with undisguised hostility and derision. “People like Joe Stiglitz lack the courage to consider the cost of doing nothing and the cost of failure,” White House spokesperson Tony Fratto told the press. “One can’t even begin to put a price tag on the cost to this nation of the attacks of 9/11.”

The Iraq war, Fratto said, “is also an investment in the future safety and security of Americans and our vital national interests. Three trillion dollars? What price does Joe Stiglitz put on attacks on the homeland that have already been prevented? Or doesn’t his slide rule work that way?”


GravatarI don't think Bush knows or cares about what he's saying. His emotions have taken over.

And his dementia.

p&p


GravatarOh, here we are!

Haloscan was taunting me.

'morning, ql.


Gravatar“One can’t even begin to put a price tag on the cost to this nation of the attacks of 9/11.”

One can't? Well, riddle me this: Was it more than 5 trillion dollars?


Gravatar“One can’t even begin to put a price tag on the cost to this nation of the attacks of 9/11.”

Irony


GravatarHaloscan was taunting me.

I hate it when Haloscan gets saucy.

peace & quiet


GravatarIt will be a happy day when our president says "You can't put a price on the health of our citizens. Universal health insurance protects Americans."

You won't hear it from Bush. You'll hear it from our next president.

peace


GravatarGood evening.


GravatarHey, CK. Your boyfriend was all over the media yesterday, pissing me off and bringing you joy, no doubt


GravatarHey V - missed that. I don't have a TV and, when I get really busy at work don't get a chance to scan the papers.


GravatarOh, I did see that he hooked up with Matt Gonzalez; I didn't know that the story got all that much play. I assume that's what you mean?


GravatarHe was on the front page of my paper, and they were both on Laura Flanders on AAR (filling in for Randi Rhodes). Somewhere else too, it seems, but it escapes me at the moment.


GravatarOr doesn’t his slide rule work that way?”

"Slide rule" ?


GravatarI get the impression from talking to my machine shop friends, that the only thing going these days are the military contracts.
We have warped ourselves for war.


GravatarMorning, all.

Weather forecast: Today--15 centimetres of snow, followed by 5 millimetres of rain. Tomorrow-- temps drop to minus 5.

I hate this place.


Gravatarblogger and haloscum seem fucked up this morning


GravatarYellow bar is kaput, I think.


GravatarI get the impression from talking to my machine shop friends, that the only thing going these days are the military contracts.
We have warped ourselves for war.
Nancy Willing | Homepage | 03.01.08 - 6:55 am | #


Where are your machine shop friends?


GravatarI hate this place.
Moe Szyslak, cold | Homepage | 03.01.08 - 6:57 am | #


79 and partly sunny.
80% humidity already though.


GravatarI do hope someone reminded Pat Buchanan that the Nazis were virtually all white males.


GravatarI hate this place.
Moe Szyslak, cold


Go get a free abortion. That'll cheer you up.


GravatarMoe, look at it this way:

Adak, Alaska is far worse.


GravatarGo get a free abortion

Or maybe some free health care.


GravatarMorning, moonbats!

Thought I'd get up to give you a litle hamhock update since 3:30 AM:

NOTHING.

I have heard nothing further from Nim. However, as soon as he calls, I'll post with details.


GravatarNothing, eh?

I knew he was shitting us.


GravatarI have heard nothing further from Nim. However, as soon as he calls, I'll post with details.
Vicki, Who ♥ life


I still think the kindest thing to do it to post Nim's cell number here so we can all helpfully call them every 30 seconds to check in.


GravatarVicki -- they'd wake you up for news, right?


GravatarI don't really hate the place, or the people or such. Just the weather.

But when I get frost bite and pneumonia, I'll get free hospital care, so there's that.


GravatarI still think the kindest thing to do it to post Nim's cell number here so we can all helpfully call them every 30 seconds to check in.



He. would. kill. me.

I called him last night about 8:00 PM or so, and he said, "I hope you won't take this the wrong way, but EVERYONE is calling us. My attorney friends, my family, you. Jen requests that I ask everyone who is calling to stop calling. I'll call once she's admitted into the hospital."

Getting the hint, I refrained from dialing their number any further.


GravatarBut when I get frost bite and pneumonia, I'll get free hospital care, so there's that.
Moe Szyslak, cold


Or if you should fall on ice and break something. Not that that kind of thing would ever happen to a young, nimble animal such as yourself.


GravatarAnd when what passes for Spring moves in, you'll be fine. We typically get hints for months, and then the damned rain just won't leave!


GravatarVicki -- they'd wake you up for news, right?


Oh yeah, he called me at 3:30 AM, after all! (FINALLY.)


GravatarJust the weather.


I empathize. It's been a long and brutal winter here.

Frankly, if I never see snow fly except maybe at Christmas again, I'd be a happy camper.


GravatarYea, when winter ends, we get rain, until July. It rained 27 days last June. August is kinda nice.


GravatarIn the last month of it, it's rarely more than mist -- but it just won't clear all the way up, and I go stir-crazy!


GravatarIt seems like everyone in the cold climes has had a very rough winter. It's been oddly mild here; in fact we just got a little cold snap (lows in the 30s for a couple of nights), but we haven't had quite enough cold weather.


GravatarO'Reilly really has snapped. "No escaping the similarities" between Hitler and Arianna Huffington.
Right.


GravatarCNN is saying that "white guys" are now key democratic swing vote.

WTF?


GravatarYa know, I absolutely love fishing when your day consists of breaking the ice out of your rod guides, and having your reel freeze solid every 5 minutes.

Truly frustrating.


GravatarMorning, kids.

I was supposed to go to a Dem fundraiser and St. Pat's Parade today, but I think the snow kind of put the kibosh on that.


GravatarIt seems like everyone in the cold climes has had a very rough winter

We set a new record for snow here in Lansing.

28 of 29 days it snowed in February this year.


GravatarSheets, btw.


GravatarWhere are your machine shop friends?
rootless-e, email-listed!

*
My sample is small:
one friend works at Lenape Steel near West Chester, PA.
The other was my friend Mike who I was talking with last night at the bar. Mike runs a shop near Wilmington, DE.


GravatarMy sample is small:
one friend works at Lenape Steel near West Chester, PA.
The other was my friend Mike who I was talking with last night at the bar. Mike runs a shop near Wilmington, DE.
Nancy Willing | Homepage | 03.01.08 - 7:23 am | #


US machine shops are really in trouble. Of course we don't need them anymore because people can work in real-estate sales and finance - oops!

When President Obama gets a big solar power works project installed, they might get some civilian work.


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