HULK SMASH!!!
Love you too.
Mwah!!!
Ha!!!
The ole HoneyBear beat TKK.
That must count for something.
You're welcome. 
Mornin' folks!
YOUR CANDIDATE SUCKS!!!!
(Sorry. I couldn't help myself.)
Again #5
You need to hire an enforcer just in case, Atrios.
May I suggest Swan of fy?
I mean #7...I can count
We're too cool for that.
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Yeah, the humor here keeps the politics from getting too important. A saving grace.
Chimpy chief speechwriter resignation letter:
When it became clear that our country was under attack [on 9/11], I returned home. My wife came out to meet me as I pulled into our driveway. I remember looking up at the sky and wondering what kind of world our girls would inherit. And i remember saying to Julie, "Let's be thankful George W. Bush is President". ...
The day will come when my girls are no longer children -- and look out on a world where people from Baghdad to Beijing enjoy the liberty that Providence intended for them. And each will tell her children, "When I was a girl, I knew the man who believed in this future when so few others did - George W. Bush
And plus, you don't have a scoop site.
Jesus, I haven't really read other sites. Bad enough here. Though I notice now that Digby has re-opened comments it has calmed down somewhat. We had a really good discussion earlier about achieving universal health care and nobody was accused of having their heads up their asses.
I guess I need to chime in here..
You missed those days, eh?
Well, there was the great biofuels incident of 2005.
Hopefully, it won't be long before advances in technology make this whole biological clock issue moot.
blerb
What biological clock?
Jayzuz, the damned thing isn't ticking!
Okay THIRTEENTH!!!
Bobo, Roger Simon and Dan Balz on the taterhaid show.
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chime!
Fuck you, "Duncan". You are SO in the bag! Look at all the ads the campaign has bou--
Oh. Nevermind...
Pumpkinhead show.
Panel = BoBo, El Drudgico (Roger Simon) and Dan Balz.
oy.
I'm never trying that again...
Just want to thank the regulars and other commenters for managing to not turn this place into a nonstop candidate flame war.
That's because this is a Unity '08 site!
perhaps because you have a nice international flavor
yeah this place is coping alright, its had some rough moments but it ebbs and flows with whose about
{snipet}Military prosecutors are in the final phases of preparing the first sweeping case against suspected conspirators in the plot that led to the deaths of nearly 3,000 Americans on Sept. 11, 2001, and drew the United States into war, people who have been briefed on the case said.
Pentagon investigators concluded in 2005 that he had been subject to abusive treatment at Guantánamo, including sleep deprivation, being forced to wear a bra and being led around on a leash.
Gitanjali Gutierrez, one of Mr. al-Qahtani’s lawyers at the Center for Constitutional Rights, said she had no information about whether he would be charged. “But if he is,” Ms. Gutierrez said, “I can assure you that his well-documented torture and the controversy over secret trials will be the focus.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/0...=rssnyt&
emc=rss
If I was waterboarded for 6 years straight, I would admit to 9-11 too!
We need to stop this shit!!!!!
"Just want to thank the regulars and other commenters for managing to not turn this place into a nonstop candidate flame war."
Yes, you're welcome.
Good thing people are so civil elsewhere:
YOu are more of a racist than Imus ever was. He made a joke, get over it. There are somethings and people that are clearly off limit, so we now live in a humorless society/ Enjoy your miserable life a-hole.
Tom
And you know I love you, Atrios. But I'll be damned if I'm here on election night!
Timmeh said Bobo was "an extraordinary journalist." I guess that's obscure enough to be true,
its had some rough moments
I aim to please.
MY CANDIDATE SUCKS!!1!1
oh wait...
Actually, the site that's the worst offender belongs to a drunken Irish bacon-eater.
Figures!
I thought he said he read the comments?
FUCK YOU!!!!
Vote for my candidates or DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
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Oh, and my candidate can kick your candidate's ass!!1!!1!!!!one!!
Electorally speaking, I mean.
we now live in a humorless society/ Enjoy your miserable life a-hole.
Hallmark has some great cards for Valentine's Day, don't they?
Elevate the fucking discourse!
Yay, us!
"Vermont Teddy Bear." "PajamaGram."
Obituary: Milton Wolff; worker, soldier, socialist, political activist.
CNN update:
As of the noon hour,
"Obama Girl" + "Amy Winehouse" + "Super Bowl Ads"
= a combined 5-8 minutes.
"Pakistan bombing" + "Iraqi casualties" = roughly 45 seconds.
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In one week, I've gone from "virtually irrelevant" to "more of a racist than Imus ever was."
WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!
Elevate the fucking discourse!
[droopy dawg] Yes, mistress... [/droopy dawg]
I have to say, today is damn near perfect scootin' weather.
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re: Confusing Times [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
I heard Bill's Trotskyite line, too, and thought he was reacting to the Coulters and the Dobsons (the only name, I think, he specifically mentioned) more than anything. I also think that the fact that conservatives debate ideas and the future is a sign of a healthy movement. We have ideas!
Molesting children and blowing goats are not ideas of which most people would approve.
When I was a girl, I knew the man who believed in this future when so few others did - George W. Bush
I think I'll throw up.
Elevate the fucking discourse!
[punch3]
When Dennis Kucinich ran for president, I voted for him. I'm proud of it. And if the rest of the blog had followed my lead, we wouldn't have had all these problems over the months, either.
well, we Gravelers are civilized not like those obnoxious Kucinichians ...
When I was a girl, I knew the man who believed in this future when so few others ...
He believed in THIS?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHA!!!!!!!!!!
[punch3]
i love you, man!
YOu are more of a racist than Imus ever was. He made a joke, get over it.
Imus hates women AND African-Americans.
Equal opportunity bigoted asshole that he is....
So apparently the only real success of the "Surge" was a surge of indifference toward the Iraq quagmire by the MCM.
the fact that conservatives debate ideas and the future is a sign of a healthy movement. We have ideas!
Conservatives debate ideas? Coulda fooled me.
I think I'll throw up.
If a drunken sociopath held a gun to YOUR head, you'd write whatever the hell he said to write, too.
SPEARS/LOHAN '08!
And if the rest of the blog had followed my lead, we wouldn't have had all these problems over the months, either.
You've changed, man.
What biological clock?
Jayzuz, the damned thing isn't ticking!
JR, kerosene and a match
Well, if a woman has no desire or intent to reproduce, it is obviously already moot for her. But for those who do, it kind of sucks that time runs out so quickly, especially since these days building a solid professional career can almost completely run out the clock. The result can be having to make some very tough choices and possibly getting all fucked up in the head behind it like the author of that article. One day soon, the clock will no longer run out at 40, and men and women will be on a more equal footing with respect to the choices they have to make.
We have ideas!
Which were fine back in the middle ages.
When I was a girl, I knew the man who believed in this future when so few others did - George W. Bush
And when i was a lad, i knew the man who crapped his pants and screamed back to the voices in his head - That Guy in the Alley.
What's your point?
Oh, and hello again, all.
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DUBAI, Feb 8 (Reuters) - Producer group OPEC may abandon the dollar for pricing oil and adopt the euro but any such switch will "take time", OPEC Secretary-General Abdullah al-Badri was quoted as saying by a weekly magazine.
"Maybe we can price the oil in the euro," the London-based Middle East Economic Digest quoted Badri as saying in an interview. "It can be done, but it will take time."
Reuters obtained an advance copy of the interview which will be published in the London-based magazine's next issue.
"Badri tells MEED ... that the producers' cartel may switch to the euro within a decade to combat the dollar's decline," the magazine said without providing a direct quote about the time frame.
"It took two world wars and more than 50 years for the dollar to become the dominant currency. Now we are seeing another strong currency coming into the [frame], which is the euro," he said.
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m4099...&hd=&size=1&
l=e
If a drunken sociopath held a gun to YOUR head, you'd write whatever the hell he said to write, too.
dave™©
Bush isn't allowed NEAR guns, I've heard.
SPEARS/SPEARS 08
I like both candidates. And I see very little difference between them.
the women on my mother's side of the family get early menopause
SPEARS/SPEARS 08
Heh.
when i was a lad, i knew the man who crapped his pants and screamed back to the voices in his head - That Guy in the Alley.
And That Guy in the Alley grew up to be....... Glenn Beck.
And now you know - the Rest of the Story!
GooooooooooooooooooooooooDAY!
Conservatives debate ideas? Coulda fooled me.
Toonscribe
Everyone is entitled to THEIR opinion.
Dennis Q. Spinach = Strom Thurmond?
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the women on my mother's side of the family get early menopause
The women on my mother's side of the family say "Too Much Information."
When it became clear that our country was under attack [on 9/11], I returned home. My wife came out to meet me as I pulled into our driveway. I remember looking up at the sky and wondering what kind of world our girls would inherit.
I remember that day, too. I remember thinking on the drive home, "Damn, afternoon off. Which golf course do I wish to play this afternoon to escape the insanity unfolding around me for a few hours?"
No fighting here! This is the war room!
I like both candidates. And I see very little difference between them.
Culture of TrÜth
The nastiness is a turn off.
Why are we dumping on Democrats when we should be roasting McCain over the coals?
Bush isn't allowed NEAR guns, I've heard.
"I'm the f'ckin' C'mand'r'n'Chief an' I'm orderin' you ta GIMMETHEFUGGINGUN!!!"
Trent Lott, speaking of Strom Thrumond.
Well, if a woman has no desire or intent to reproduce, it is obviously already moot for her. But for those who do, it kind of sucks that time runs out so quickly, especially since these days building a solid professional career can almost completely run out the clock.
Well, outside of the constant brain-washing that a woman should have spawn clinging to her, adopted kids aren't on a clock.
Sharpton/Tancredo! Sharpton/Tancredo! If you don't support them, you're bad.
CNN...
So if Dana Bash slept with Wolf Blitzer to get where she is,
that means,
Betty Nguyen slept with Paula Zahn,
TJ Holmes slept with Dr Gupta,
Campbell Brown slept with everybody,
Nobody slept with Aaron Brown,
So how do we account for Rick Sanchez?
(As Snow thinks of some pathetic remark to try to show some "gender bias" on my part, fucking retard.)
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I like both candidates. And I see very little difference between them.
I remember that day, too. I remember thinking on the drive home, "Damn, afternoon off. Which golf course do I wish to play this afternoon to escape the insanity unfolding around me for a few hours?"
I gotta admit, I enjoyed the week or so when there were no planes flying. Couldn't believe how much it made a difference!
When it became clear that our country was under attack [on 9/11],
And Bush was sitting there in a classroom with a deer in the headlights look on his moron face.
[whoops]
And I dislike them about equally, too.
No fighting here! This is the war room!
"Now . . . now, Dimitri . . . "
I like both candidates. And I see very little difference between them.
You're NOT of the Body! You're NOT!!!
So when McCain loses his bid for Presidency will he set up a shop in one of Baghdad's marketplaces? I hear the surge made them quite safe.
the women on my mother's side of the family get early menopause
Moonbootica
The women on my mother's side of the family never get PMS.
My mother's explaination: "We don't need permission to be bitchy"
MSNBC "let Rick Sanchez go." Think about that.
SPEARS/SPEARS 08
Too many baby-daddies entirely.
And I dislike them about equally, too.
Come sit by me.
Why are we dumping on Democrats when we should be roasting McCain over the coals?
Because, if i'm reading the rigging of the media and the establishment of preconditions for a successful Diebolding correctly, the next Preznit will be McCain.
with our luck, McCain/Lieberman.
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Job 1, from this point forward, is to tear the old pathetic warmonger McCain's carcass to shreds. I said yesterday that a good start would be a 527 whose sole purpose is to plaster the countryside with that picture of John's manlove for W. He can't arrive at the convention without being tarred and feathered as a the worst political flip flopper in history.
the next Preznit will be McCain.
Na ga happen.
So how do we account for Rick Sanchez?
petri dish, Blitzer's top drawer
ugh i suffer really bad PMS during some months and other times i'm usually ok.
MSNBC "let Rick Sanchez go." Think about that.
plantsman,
You know you're pathetic when you're funnier than the Daily Show guys...
Henry Rollins/Lemmy Kilmister '08!
Lyndon LaRouche backers have never started flame wars on the blogs.
I think this is his year!
Hillary or Barack for President!
or Al, or Dennis, or John, ...
They're all good. In the event, one may or not prove better than another, but in comparison to the current monster, who the hell cares?
So how do we account for Rick Sanchez?
Ileana Ros-Lehtinen?
[whoops]
And I dislike them about equally, too.
Roxanne
Oh, well.
"Now . . . now, Dimitri . . . "
"Remember, Dimitri, we've always talked about something going wrong with the bum... the bum, Dimitri, the hydrogen bum..."
Huckabee Unity '08!
The biofuel ticket RULES!
adopted kids aren't on a clock.
JR.
Actually, for the international adoption programs that we have investigated, they are. It's just a bit longer. 50 or so seems to be a threshold beyond which foreign programs (i.e. the regulations of the other countries, at least the ones we've seen) seem to think is too old.
So how do we account for Rick Sanchez?
Ileana Ros-Lehtinen?
Molly Ivors
))))
I got my ass burned in here...but not like on other sites, I suppose.
It was a simple lesson in Who's Who on Atrios's Haloscan, more or less. A lesson well learned.
Did y'all see Huck at CPAC?
The Audacity of Fundamentalism!
Salma Hayek/Milla Jovovich 08
I dislike them about equally, too.
Well, they're politicians. Ain't no saviors gonna rise from THAT street...
cynicus: Because, if i'm reading the rigging of the media and the establishment of preconditions for a successful Diebolding correctly, the next Preznit will be McCain.
which was attempted early on, didn't work. The voters keep doing this Off The Poll voting thingie. surprise.
but the Supremes are there waiting to keep the public out,
at http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com
Job 1, from this point forward, is to tear the old pathetic warmonger McCain's carcass to shreds. I said yesterday that a good start would be a 527 whose sole purpose is to plaster the countryside with that picture of John's manlove for W. He can't arrive at the convention without being tarred and feathered as a the worst political flip flopper in history.
Euge Johnson
http://www.thumbsnap.com/v/9xqIXKQk.jpg
HUGGY BEAR!
I got my ass burned in here...but not like on other sites, I suppose.
It was a simple lesson in Who's Who on Atrios's Haloscan, more or less. A lesson well learned.
Daddy-O, not miffed
Does "Atrios" ever actually join in here with this rabble?
New derogatory/humorous term for Obama backers:
Barack-O-bots.
How d'ya like it? As soon as I come up with one for the Clintons, I'll let you know.
Hey, it turns out these children of the corn kids were just really early into biofuels.
I feel like I'm in the freakin Wizard of Oz or something, for Chrissakes...
Very, very occasionally, Elias.
50 or so seems to be a threshold beyond which foreign programs (i.e. the regulations of the other countries, at least the ones we've seen) seem to think is too old.
Tralfaz
Unless, of course, you are a CELEBRITY.
THEN the rules are different!
Actually, relative to other big comments blogs such as FDL or The Great Orange Satan, we really do judge people on ideas and assholihness, rather than preconceived notions.
Of course, if you come in and start a fight that we've all had three months ago, that's your issue.
The only possible ways McCain gets to be president are:
(1) Bush and the Supremes suspend the election;
(2) The election is held but the Supremes rule for McCain, whether or not it's close
(3) Some massive (nuclear?) attack occurs, and people go as nuts as they did 9/11.
Even this last scenario I think won't do it, because one might legitimately argue that it was the Republican's fault.
So, I really don't think we're gonna be in tinfoil hat territory, and McCain (or whoever) is going to have the tar whaled out of him.
Does "Atrios" ever actually join in here with this rabble?
Elias
No, we perma-banned him.
Elias, he's in here a lot, but he doesn't often comment--unless he's using a pseudonym I'm not familiar with.
Very, very occasionally, Elias.
plantsman,
How do you know if it's really "he" or "she" and not someone just pretending?
good start would be a 527 whose sole purpose is to plaster the countryside with that picture of John's manlove for W.
I guess I should put my ad together and dump it on YouTube:
Open with McCain's "100 years is cool with me" speech. Seque into his "Bomb Iran" song. End with his big sweaty hug.
End title: "If you liked Bush, you'll LOVE McCain!"
Is it too much to ask one of the campaigns to send me some money?
How d'ya like it? As soon as I come up with one for the Clintons, I'll let you know
I just call them daves.
.Well, outside of the constant brain-washing that a woman should have spawn clinging to her, adopted kids aren't on a clock.
JR
I would say that you are imposing your own perspective on others just as much as Lori Gottlieb is with that statement. Having more flexibility in decision-making is always a good thing. Some people actually want to propagate their own genes, and I say there is nothing wrong with that. That shouldn't come as a surprise to an evolutionary biologist.
Sorry DaddyO, you answered it...
Of course, if you come in and start a fight that we've all had three months ago, that's your issue.
Molly Ivors
Substitute "centuries" for "months", and you've just described the evo-creo wars.
Of course, if you come in and start a fight that we've all had three months ago, that's your issue.
I can't access blogger at work, so I read open left an mydd.
MyDD is nothing but fighting. And Open Left isn't far behind.
How d'ya like it? As soon as I come up with one for the Clintons, I'll let you know
Clintoids
Salma Hayek/Milla Jovovich 08
Too hawt altogether.
Same with Clooney/Mortensen 08.
which was attempted early on, didn't work. The voters keep doing this Off The Poll voting thingie. surprise.
And all polls that don't match the Village's wants get how much coverage?
The Big Lie that the election results were 'within the margin of error' sails smoothly so long as the mass public does not know that the margins were far apart. And Diebold marches on.
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Salma Hayek/Milla Jovovich 08
There's a ticket I could get between.
If you're a celebrity of means over 50, there's a fair possibility that even if you pass away, the adopted child will be cared for -- if you're a mere mortal over 50, not so much.
Henry Rollins/Lemmy Kilmister '08!
JR, kerosene and a match | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 12:20 pm
alas, I don't think Lemmy's a citizen.
Rollins/Danzig '08.
Unless, of course, you are a CELEBRITY.
THEN the rules are different!
Terry C
But of course.
>>Because, if i'm reading the rigging of the media and the establishment of preconditions for a successful Diebolding correctly, the next Preznit will be McCain.
I really, really, really thought it would be Romney. He's the perfect empty vessel. I predicted last summer that he would win in November, following the paranoid, cynical route. I pictured a day or two after the election, old Mitt being called up to meet with Cheney and Addington "Here's the playbook for the next four years. Don't fuck it up."
My faith was restored by the fact that the neocons put their money on Rudy. They might be the real Stonecutters, but there's no way the American president will be a bald guy with a lisp. It showed, at least, that when you're busy running the world, little details like "electability" jump up and bite you.
My paranoid side still is concerned with some terrorist action domestically. Then the Dems need to be ready "Strike 1: they didn't protect us from 9/11 Strike 2) they never lifted a finder to catch the Anthrax perp now this...strike 3, you're out.
Jesus, rootless-e sent me to his kos diary about Hillary's TipGate, but what most of the 350+ comments were about were how DHinMI was a stooge for kos, yadda yadda yadda. It was ridiculous, and I tried to read them all, but it was a waste of time.
Barely 3% of those comments were about Hillary's Iowa Tip. It made it look like a fucking love fest in here.
Open with McCain's "100 years is cool with me" speech. Seque into his "Bomb Iran" song. End with his big sweaty hug.
End title: "If you liked Bush, you'll LOVE McCain!"
Is it too much to ask one of the campaigns to send me some money?
dave™©
http://www.thumbsnap.com/v/8qb6zJd7.jpg
Shakira/Salma Hayek 0'8
Salma Hayek/Penelope Cruz '08
Just hold on a g-d minute.... it's only because you took away the :rocket:...
Al Gore! Al Gore! Al Gore! Al Gore! Al Gore!
Al Gore! Al Gore! Al Gore! Al Gore! Al Gore!
Al Gore! Al Gore! Al Gore! Al Gore! Al Gore!
Al Gore! Al Gore! Al Gore! Al Gore! Al Gore!
Al Gore! Al Gore! Al Gore! Al Gore! Al Gore!
Al Gore! Al Gore! Al Gore! Al Gore! Al Gore!
Chris Dodd! Chris Dodd! Chris Dodd! Chris Dodd! Chris Dodd! Chris Dodd! Chris Dodd! Chris Dodd! Chris Dodd! Chris Dodd! Chris Dodd! Chris Dodd! Chris Dodd! Chris Dodd! Chris Dodd! Chris Dodd! Chris Dodd! Chris Dodd! Chris Dodd! Chris Dodd!
if you come in and start a fight that we've all had three months ago, that's your issue.
Molly Ivors
or beat the princesses at Scrabulous!!
MyDD is nothing but fighting. And Open Left isn't far behind.
Some problems are top-down and not bottom-up.
Actually, for the international adoption programs that we have investigated, they are. It's just a bit longer. 50 or so seems to be a threshold beyond which foreign programs (i.e. the regulations of the other countries, at least the ones we've seen) seem to think is too old.
Tralfaz
Who would adopt a 50-year-old kid?
Salma Hayek/Penelope Cruz '08
Oh man. You win.
EVOLUTIONARY PSYCHOLOGIST/EMOTIONALLY INSECURE MALE '08!
[/runs out of the room]
mccain/macaca or mccain/brownback
macaca was on stage at cpc with mccain. brownback is a huge mccain supporter.
Barely 3% of those comments were about Hillary's Iowa Tip. It made it look like a fucking love fest in here.
That's what I'm saying.
Some people actually want to propagate their own genes, and I say there is nothing wrong with that. That shouldn't come as a surprise to an evolutionary biologist.
blerb
What I'm saying is that there's nothing "right" with that, either.
We are a social species. Individual's genes aren't that important to us as a species.
Same with Clooney/Mortensen 08.
Molly Ivors | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 12:25 pm |
(swoons)
MyDD is nothing but fighting. And Open Left isn't far behind.
Zap Rowsdower | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 12:25 pm | #
Open Left ran a recent article endorsing Donna Brazile's insane theory that if the Democratic superdelegates choose the nominee, she's finished with the Democrats.
The common theme to all this stuff is the shocked discovery of some standard not wonderful feature of political/economic life accompanied by screaming fits of horror and disgust. "She's ambitious" and "His lawfirm had clients" are among my favorites.
Macaca spoke. He hasn't changed a bit.
William Burroughs / Harry Dean Stanton '08
Yup I can happily go either way. But when I see obvious Clinton bashing I do feel duty bound to respond. Especially liked being called a war monger the other day.
GWPDA:
(1) I'm sorry I left The Chris out of my list. He'd be terrific.
(2) I heard on NPR that the second to last US vet of the Great War has died. We've only one left. Immediately I thought of you.
Clintoids and daves...hmm. Let's try again, although Clintoids is short, sharp and makes its point.
Is it too much to ask one of the campaigns to send me some money?
dave™©
That was far better than most of what their multi-million dollar advisors come up with.
or beat the princesses at Scrabulous!!
Again, merit-based rather than prejudicial.
Like their colleagues across Iraq, the doctors and nurses at the Emergency Management Centre in Irbil work relentlessly.
The medical specialisms at this hospital are war surgery and burns.
With the continuing violence in nearby Mosul and Diyala province, war surgery is in great demand. So too is the burns unit.
The chief nurse, Ahmed Mohammad, has done the tour of the women's intensive care unit many times before.
"This is ICU burns," he said. "We have four patients here."
In the corner of the ward lies a girl swaddled in bandages.
"The upper part of her body is burnt. So are her head and her arms, as well as one of her thighs," he said.
Eighteen-year-old Sana has been here for nine weeks. Only the tips of her fingers and a small part of her face are visible.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middl...ast/
7235021.stm
OUTLANDER/INTERLOPER '08!
I'm glad someone said it (teh postt). I'm tired of feeling a little bit like if I want to talk out loud about teh politik that If I critique another candidate's style or what they did then I have to get ready for a crapstorm from those who are actually in the same camp as me who don't think I've been properly respectful.
That behavior is downright Republican.
I'm not for Hillary, and I'm not for Oregon Senate candidate Steve Novick. However, I will support them if they become the Democratic nominee.
I have my problems about Hillary, but she's better than what we got now.
And I like Jeff Merkley a lot, but Steve Novick seems like an okay fellow – though his campaigners get a little too enthusiastic about things sometimes.
Smegma Licking Douche Schnozels for McCain
alas, I don't think Lemmy's a citizen.
Can we get an executive order on that?
Herbie Hancock/Lyle Mays '08.
(I have a weakness for jazz piano.)
Some problems are top-down and not bottom-up.
Oh yeah, I agree.
Bowers seems to "clean house" every other day because someone griped about the super delegates again...
If you're a celebrity of means over 50, there's a fair possibility that even if you pass away, the adopted child will be cared for -- if you're a mere mortal over 50, not so much.
plantsman,
That's STILL special treatment.
And it's unfair.
I really, really, really thought it would be Romney. He's the perfect empty vessel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v...h?
v=v3NMve8Tgho
[/runs out of the room]
watertiger
*throws fish*
Molesting children and blowing goats are not ideas of which most people would approve.
Lime Rickey
True. Unless you're a Republican in Florida.
Yep, we've got a new GOP child pornographer in Florida. And wait till you see what his job was ...
alas, I don't think Lemmy's a citizen.
Can we get an executive order on that?
JR, kerosene and a match | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 12:29 pm
Ozzy/Lemmy '08, more coherent than Bush!
Shakira/Salma Hayek 0'8
Salma Hayek/Penelope Cruz '08
Some of us are trying to type on a tilted laptop computer here. Enough.
Kicker is, all these ladies (plus Milla Jov.) are all foriegn-born, and thus non US President eligable.
But i will cheerfully help out in their campaign backrooms anyway......
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We are a social species. Individual's genes aren't that important to us as a species.
JR,
I kind of agree with that but I know that in my mid twenties I went from never wanting kids at all, to desperately wanting to be pregnant. It really was more of a hormonal thing than intellectual reasoning.
GravatarSmegma Licking Douche Schnozels for McCain
I'm sorry; Republican men don't give head. After all, what's in it for them? You're never going to keep your quiver full like that.
Ozzy/Lemmy '08, more coherent than Bush!
Buckeye
Lemmy is coherent enough for a whole fucking Congress.
Dang--Slow loading right now for me.
Comment from last night which is something I've been saying for years now: Using actual reporters as pundits diminishes their value as reporters. At one time I simply thought they didn't have enough time do both indepth reporting, with all the interviewing and investigating required, and appear on TV giving opinions, with all that time getting ready for TV and being on TV.
Now I think there's also the increased Village of the Damned Idiots factor as they conintually reference and reinforce one another, trimming what they say to "fit in" with both the Village of Damned Idiot's elders and their talk show hosts.
Anyway, Quentin C made a great point in this comment:
The MSNBC problem is that Shuster is a very good straight reporter and generally does an excellent job. David Gregory has been a pretty good reporter, with lapses. But MSNBC, with their programming challenges, has tried putting each of them in the host/pundit chair which is whack.
That role is substantially different and damages their straight reporting, which to me would be an asset NBC should want to protect. If either made a great host/pundit, then give them that job and take them off the reporting where credibility is key. If they want them as reporters, keep them off the pundit chair. Frankly, I think they are both rotten hosts/pundits, but I'll grant they don't have much training/experience so maybe there is potential there.
Pundits are under every rock, so I'd keep them in the reporter role.
That aside, even from the 'opinion' chair, Shuster's remark was completely repugnant. I am even half-convinced that is was personal, that David had tried to get an interview with Chelsea and was spurned like everyone else. So, yes, j'accuse him of being a WATB. Maybe the backstory will come out. If true, he's an ass, unless he tried, was turned down and insulted other potential interviewees such a Oprah, the Bush daughters, etc., which I doubt.
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QuentinCompson | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 12:22 am
(I have a weakness for jazz piano.)
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants
I once sat in a room of about 100 or so people in New Orleans, where I was thisclose to the piano as Ellis Marsalis gave a command performance.
Masterful.
Jeff Lynne/Tom Petty '08.
Because that would be nifty.
Again, merit-based rather than prejudicial.
Molly Ivors
the bot doesn't accept merit-based
are there minus pts?
Grandmaster Flash/Afrika Bambaataa '08
Macaca spoke. He hasn't changed a bit.
plantsman,
The Base and the MSM are SO disappointed Allen isn't the GOP nominee.
An Allen/Giuliani ticket would have had Tweety creaming in his BVDs for months on end.
It really was more of a hormonal thing than intellectual reasoning.
qlª
A lot like getting a tattoo.
Professor Griff/Sistah Souljah '08
Petty/Ocasek '08
They've always sort of looked alike, to me.
Penelope Cruz is also not a citizen.
Just a note, my attorney, Reason A. Goodwin, Esq., would like to point out any use of my name must include a link to my site.
Just sayin'...
We are a social species. Individual's genes aren't that important to us as a species.
JR,
I kind of agree with that but I know that in my mid twenties I went from never wanting kids at all, to desperately wanting to be pregnant. It really was more of a hormonal thing than intellectual reasoning.
qlª | Homepage
OK.
"Evolution" is Friday nights.
Sheesh.
Salma Hayek/Penelope Cruz '08
Could you send me their campaign DVD?
Yep, we've got a new GOP child pornographer in Florida. And wait till you see what his job was ...
Sinfonian, battling Imusians
Heh. Same old, same old.
Just move along, Repukkkes. Pretend it never happened.
Just because.
Rest My Chemistry.
I'm sorry; Republican men don't give head.
Does Larry Craig know that?
That's because everyone here pretty much agrees that Obama voters are fuckwits.
That was far better than most of what their multi-million dollar advisors come up with.
Here's the thing: IT WRITES ITSELF!
I can't believe it hasn't shown up yet...
Sheesh.
Elias
you have somethng to say about evolution, my little pukka-walla?
Christopher Walken / Winona Ryder '08
Just move along, Repukkkes. Pretend it never happened.
Lime Rickey
You've got the Supremes, you don't need morals.
at http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com
We are a social species. Individual's genes aren't that important to us as a species.
JR, kerosene and a match
So you are saying that individuals have to think only in terms of what is best for the species? Again, you are imposing your worldview on others. You seem to be saying that for a woman, the desire to propagate her own genes can come only from societally (i.e. patriarchy) applied pressure to have spawn clinging to her. I don't buy that. I think that for many women, it would be a real feeling of empowerment to know that they could still reproduce on their own into their late 40's and 50's even. This will become especially important as lifespans continue to increase, and career trajectories lengthen even more. I don't see how there is one thing about making that observation that assumes a patriarchal subtext that woman have a moral duty to reproduce. Iam simply talking about empowering women to be able to make their reproductive choices without the looming worry of declinig fertility after the age of 35.
Reporting - actual reporting, that is - is truth-based.
Punditry is opinion-based, that is to say, just bullshitting.
Ye cannot follow both God and Mammon, and ye cannot follow both Reporting and Punditry.
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Petty/Ocasek '08
They've always sort of looked alike, to me.
You know, I don't think they've ever been photographed together.
Just ... ahh, throwin' that one out there.
You know not the laws, Malachai.
Could you send me their campaign DVD?
dave™© | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 12:33 pm | #
heh you mean this - Salma Hayek / Penelope Cruz : "Banditas"
New derogatory/humorous term for Obama backers:
Barack-O-bots.
What's wrong with Obamabots?
There must be Hillarybots, Edwards Deadenders, McCainiacs...what else?
But, of course, Hillary has never told attendees at her rallies that a light will shine down on her supporters and they will then know they have to vote for her.
Bet she sure wishes she could get a set of those lights!
Linda Hunt/Hans Moleman '08!
Star Wars Kid/Sexually Ambiguous EmoThing Britney Fan '08!
Vote for my candidate and fuck everyone else.
Thank you.
SCARY VAGINA!
THREATENING BLACK PENIS!
SCARY VAGINA!
THREATENING BLACK PENIS!
SCARY VAGINA!
THREATENING BLACK PENIS!
SCARY VAGINA!
THREATENING BLACK PENIS!
SCARY VAGINA!
THREATENING BLACK PENIS!
SCARY VAGINA!
THREATENING BLACK PENIS!
Christopher Walken / Winona Ryder '08
That is one fucked up ticket right there.
Does Larry Craig know that?
TOESECKS!
Oca-Baraka Soda Crocas.
Jeff Lynne/Tom Petty '08.
Because that would be nifty.
Samuel John Klein |
Even niftier, the Unity '08 slate!
John McCain/Jane Fonda '08,
'reaching across the aisle'.
My ability to take a virtual punch in here may have improved, but I still don't have to like it.
And watching others in here get punched around, not seeing it coming, not knowing WHY...jeez, it's like being the brother of an abused spouse. Just LIKE it, not THE SAME as it.
What is the point? To prove that some progressives and Democrats can be just as mean as they can? Kee-rist on a pogo stick.
you have somethng to say about evolution, my little pukka-walla?
JR, kerosene and a match
Yes, but I wouldn't include you...
*Bu-da-boom!*
You know not the laws, Malachai.
Skipped the gym, eh?
Jeff Lynne is a fucking Limey.
LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE!!
Bet she sure wishes she could get a set of those lights!
jawbone
A thousand fucking points of.
jawbone: a light will shine down on her supporters and they will then know they have to vote for her.
pimping light now, is she?
So you are saying that individuals have to think only in terms of what is best for the species?
What I'm saying is thta when it comes to reproduction there's a who lot of "not thinking" going on.
Salma Hayek/Penelope Cruz '08
Betcha all the evil, xenophobic, anti-immigrant voters woulf hange their tuns then!
"Well, it's different if they're hot."
SCARY VAGINA!
THREATENING BLACK PENIS!
Ok, i admit to not being up on things. Which one is "Tastes Great!" and which is "Less Filling!"?
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Even niftier, the Unity '08 slate!
John McCain/Jane Fonda '08,
'reaching across the aisle'.
Bond, James Bond
As opposed to McCain/Lieberman '08, Reaching Around the Aisle?
other site masters egg it on (Open Left and Orange Satan I'm looking at you), then decry it with crocodile tears - phony as all hell; here, not so much.
.
Skipped the gym, eh?
I still have time.
Just not the inclination.
LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE!!
Sinfonian, battling Imusians
You're lucky I'm even performing for you bastards.
Frank Black/Dave Martsch '08!
(I also have a thing for bald rockers.)
(I know, I'm weird.)
Christopher Walken / Winona Ryder '08
That is one fucked up ticket right there.
watertiger, kodos4prez
A State of the Union message with Mr. Walken staring at the camera for 30 minutes.
Then he walks out.
woulf hange their tuns
I love it when Molly speaks in olde English.
What's wrong with Obamabots?
The only thing wrong with it is that I didn't write it...that's all. Mine's a little catchier, and it includes both his first and last names.
Bet she sure wishes she could get a set of those lights!
Leave Katherine Harris out of this.
Frank Black/Dave Martsch '08!
Oooh, I love it!
But only if Frank goes back to Black Francis.
LONDON (Reuters) - Rowan Williams, spiritual leader of the world's 77 million Anglicans, faced calls to resign on Saturday for suggesting that the introduction in Britain of some aspects of Islamic law was unavoidable.
The Archbishop of Canterbury tried to quell the storm by denying he had called for Islamic law, known as sharia, to be introduced alongside British law.
In a BBC interview on Thursday, he referred to the use of sharia in some personal or domestic issues, much like orthodox Jews already have their own courts for some matters.
Asked if sharia needed to be applied in some cases for community cohesion, Williams said: "It seems unavoidable."
Williams faced a torrent of critical headlines for a second day on Saturday and the Sun launched a campaign to remove him from office.
The Sun printed a form so readers could make a "complaint of misconduct" against Williams who it said had destroyed his credibility and "given heart to Muslim terrorists".
http://uk.reuters.com/article/
do...790681320080209
woulf hange their tuns then!
Jeebus. That's "would change their tunes."
I think I have to break down and put my contacts in.
(I also have a thing for bald rockers.)
(I know, I'm weird.)
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants
[note to self: learn guitar]
The civility may be due to the fact that Atrios' crowd skews older than the commentators on other sites.
Why wouldn't Mrs. Potato Head let Miss Potato Head marry Keith Olbermann?
Because Keith is a Commontater!
A State of the Union message with Mr. Walken staring at the camera for 30 minutes.
Then he walks out.
That would be FUCKING BRILLIANT!
What I'm saying is thta when it comes to reproduction there's a who lot of "not thinking" going on.
JR, kerosene and a match |
The prime directive of all Life is to make copies of themselves.
Last night I asked if anyone had some suggestions for what I should do about two of my credit cards, the two I use online payments for, being compromised (each has fraudulent charges, one almost $1000 in two payments to T-Mobile made in WA, the second a payment to Geico for $168 made in DC), other than cancelling the cards and setting up fraud alerts on the three credit check agencies.
Should I do something to my computer? Other than the Avira checks I do daily (now twice daily)?
Has this happened to anyone else?
Thanks much for any suggestions--I'm not comfortable with what my bank told me, which is they have protections up the kazoo.
Thank you.
Harry Doghiney (D-TX)
in case you missed it, TX oughta be at the top of everyone's list of votes to save the country.
see http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com/...s-
election.html
if only she was still at cnn:
Saturday Feb 09, 2008
Lynne Russell, Canadian Realtor
Former CNN HN anchor Lynne Russell, who now lives in Toronto, has become a real estate agent. "I really love it," she tells Canada's National Post.
The move to Toronto, Russell explains, was for her husband's job, as head of the Canadian-German Chamber of Industry and Commerce. Until recently, Russell was doing work for the Canadian Broadcast Corporation (CBC), but "it didn't work out".
Russell, who has two black belts in Choi Kwang Do, was also asked by reporter Rob Roberts if she could "throw down" CNN's Wolf Blitzer. "Wolf is a friend," she answered. "I don't think I'd ever have to do that."
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/
SCARY VAGINA!
THREATENING BLACK PENIS!
Here we go again
You've been watching too much PornTube.com
think that for many women, it would be a real feeling of empowerment to know that they could still reproduce on their own into their late 40's and 50's even.
How is thta more empowering than being financially and emotonally stable nough to adopt a child?
The spawning option is the default postition, it is heavily promoted and propagandized. The non-breeding options, many and varied as they are, are what are ignored and denigrated.
Frank Black/Bob Mould 08!
We dare you to tell them apart!
Jeebus. That's "would change their tunes."
[laughing uncontrollably]
Christopher Walken / Winona Ryder '08
That is one fucked up ticket right there.
No, that would be:
Two Girls/One Cup '08
(PS: allow me to take this deep into David Lynch/John Waters territory)
(PPS: Sorry. I can't keep that one in anymore)
(PPPS: Wow, everything went black there for a second. Who wrote that stuff?)
I love it when Molly speaks in olde English.
watertiger, kodos4prez
That one produced laughter tears.
We dare you to tell them apart!
If only Bobby Stinson was still alive, it'd be even more apt!
it would be a real feeling of empowerment to know that they could still reproduce on their own into their late 40's and 50's even.
Why would they WANT to?
Yes, the Great War vets get to be around 107 and then just give up.
A State of the Union message with Mr. Walken staring at the camera for 30 minutes.
Then he walks out.
That would be FUCKING BRILLIANT!
So long as there's plenty of cowbell, agreed.
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Can't help you, jawbone, but I truly wish I was able. Good luck.
*Bu-da-boom!*
Elias
Sure... "sport".
The civility may be due to the fact that Atrios' crowd skews older than the commentators on other sites.
"Civility?!"
You haven't been here for a few days, have you?
The non-breeding options, many and varied as they are, are what are ignored and denigrated.
So I take you're suporting the choices of the celibate men and women who join monasteries and convents?
(runs from room)
Is this the "Draft Jimmie Carter" internet forum?
Is this the "Draft Jimmie Carter" internet forum?
shrimplate
Down the hall. This is abuse.
I'm giving up commenting because none of you blockheaded yahoos see fit to agree with me, and outside of Thers on occassion, no one has tried to turn my comments section into a battleground, or even gotten personal about me at my blog.
I know when I've been insulted!
So there!
if only she was still at cnn...
I used to watch Headline News for hours just to gaze upon her...
in case you missed it, TX oughta be at the top of everyone's list of votes to save the country.
Ruth, I fear we're swimming against the tide here, for now. Fortunately, the rest of the country is figuring things out.
Oh, and fuck Mike McCaul.
Russell, who has two black belts in Choi Kwang Do, was also asked by reporter Rob Roberts if she could "throw down" CNN's Wolf Blitzer. "Wolf is a coward," she answered. "I don't think I'd ever have to do that."
Error correction free of charge.
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If only Bobby Stinson was still alive, it'd be even more apt!
Diplomat A: Is that the president or the vice-president?
Diplomat B: Fuck if I know!
It's been a problem on other sites, but for the most part not so much here.
I blame Hitler.
Is this the "Draft Jimmie Carter" internet forum?
shrimplate |
It would be better to draft Tagg Romney into the Army.
I wonder Tweety would sound like strung up in a cornfield.
Is this the "Draft Jimmie Carter" internet forum?
shrimplate
we haz habitats
Russell, who has two black belts in Choi Kwang Do, was also asked by reporter Rob Roberts if she could "throw down" CNN's Wolf Blitzer. "Wolf is a friend," she answered. "I don't think I'd ever have to do that."
But could you do it just for the hell of it?
What the fuck is so empowering about having a kid?
I'd think that designing a building, doing medical research, writing a novel would be empowering.
It can be a whole lot of positive things to have a child, but I wouldn't call it "empowering".
Monty Python - Argument Clinic (extended)
Is this the "Draft Jimmie Carter" internet forum?
shrimplate
Go to hell, Milton Shapp hater!
I wonder Tweety would sound like strung up in a cornfield.
"Of course, people do go both ways."
we haz habitats
And Rabbitz.
And bukkits.
So I take you're suporting the choices of the celibate men and women who join monasteries and convents?
During some of my celibate stretches, i would have loved to join a convent.
they wouldn't let me, dammit.......
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Or: A State of the Union message with Mike Gravel staring at the camera for 30 minutes.
Then he chucks a rock.
I love it when Molly speaks in olde English.
watertiger, kodos4prez
Hwaet?
i'm just a furrniner
I wonder Tweety would sound like strung up in a cornfield.
"HILLARY! HE WILL BE DISPLEASED! HILLARY IS THE CAUSE FOR ALL YOUR SORROWS!"
I fear we're swimming against the tide here, for now.
Harry D., I'm gonna keep on pitching anyway.
So I take you're suporting the choices of the celibate men and women who join monasteries and convents?
(runs from room)
Molly Ivors
yes.
Keeps 'em out from underfoot.
Frank Black is the one with a sense of humor?
LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE!!
Sinfonian, battling Imusians
The cover story of Rolling Stone this week is now Britney is "an American tragedy."
Well, boo fucking hoo.
No, the case of homeless vets is an American tragedy.
Children without health care is an American tragedy.
The elderly having to choose between buying groceries and buying medication is an American tragedy.
A never-ending ego war is an American tragedy.
How do you know if you haven't had a kid, JR?
I have two, and I'd have to say that I agree with that overly-simplified phrase--that having a kid is 'empowering'.
Now, what kind of power are we talking about? Because a helluva lot of children masquerading as parents sure as fuck ABUSE that 'empowerment'...
ISAAC AWEIGH!
Monty Python - Argument Clinic (extended)
Moonbootica, Employed
"Shut your festering gob, you tit! Your type makes me puke!"
Charlize Theron made her first acting appearance in one of those Children of the Corn movies, as 'Screaming Girl #37' or something. Then she figured out who to sleep with...
A never-ending ego war is an American tragedy.
You mean Daily Kos is an American tragedy?
i'm just a furrniner
Moonbootica, Employed
Tha's alright. We got lots o' those here in Houston. We're used to 'em.
Yankees, on the other hand, are another matter....
Frank Black is the one with a sense of humor?
Let's see: wrote a ton of songs about incest and Spanish surrealism...
So, yes!
BTW, it seems Lynne Russell and watertiger think alike!
no one has tried to turn my comments section into a battleground, or even gotten personal about me at my blog.
Rmj
Ok, but make sure you have plenty of groundsheets.
Back out into the fray. 75F today and time to turn over the garden and remind Arthur of his job as primary digger.
The cover story of Rolling Stone this week is now Britney is "an American tragedy."
Ah, i'm wrong again. i have been viewing it as an American comedy........
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Frank Black is the one with a sense of humor?
Plus, he has the Catholic vote sewn up.
Say, what's going on with you haters and liars?
A never-ending ego war is an American tragedy.
Terry C, Clintoid
They keep using that word. I do not think that word means what they think it means.--Aristotle
So you are saying that individuals have to think only in terms of what is best for the species?
Luckily, considering what is best for the species and Salma Hayek are not mutually exclusive.
Charlize Theron made her first acting appearance in one of those Children of the Corn movies, as 'Screaming Girl #37' or something. Then she figured out who to sleep with...
The Kenosha Kid
Snow?
We're talking about Britney?
Damn...and I have to run some errands.
Back in a bit...
This is such a darling picture.
113 year old woman and her 89 year old daughter.
no one has tried to turn my comments section into a battleground, or even gotten personal about me at my blog.
And as long as you keep up da payments, it stays dat way!
Flamed any canines, Toby?
'ello, folks.
What's the buzz, what's the haps, what's the scoop?
Kim Deal/Kelley Deal '08
Why would they WANT to?
Terry C, Clintoid
Why would one want to have the option of taking the time to build one's career fully and have lots of money in the bank before having kids? The answer to that seems obvious to me. Men do it all the time. They just marry younger women. With the current biological realities, the reverse is not possible. I happen to think that if it were, it would be empowering for a lot of women, and might actually help to alleviate some of the current de-facto sexual inequality in the workplace. YMMV.
And, btw, "Megan Daum" (isn't that the dreadful person with the appalling children?) has an op/ed in the LATimes on Miss Clinton. I was unwilling to open the link.
For those not familiar with the "lights" reference, it comes from this writer's account of attending both Obama and then Clinton rallies.
http://www.cjr.org/campaign_desk...caro.php?
page=1
When he [obama] took the stage he said, “At some point in the evening, a light is going to shine down and you will have an epiphany and you’ll say, ‘I have to vote for Barack.’”
Via Avedon's Sideshow.com
Kicker is, all these ladies (plus Milla Jov.) are all foriegn-born, and thus non US President eligable.
But i will cheerfully help out in their campaign backrooms anyway......
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Cynicus | 02.09.08 - 12:30 pm |
I think their boyfriends/fiances/baby-daddies might have something to say about that.
Though, since Penelope is dating Javier Bardem, if you suceed in wooing Penelope, I'll help Javier get over his heartbreak.
Charlize Theron made her first acting appearance in one of those Children of the Corn movies, as 'Screaming Girl #37' or something. Then she figured out who to sleep with...
The Kenosha Kid
Oh Snow?
Now, what kind of power are we talking about? Because a helluva lot of children masquerading as parents sure as fuck ABUSE that 'empowerment'...
Daddy-O
Well, that's really my bitch.
I don't see kids as "power". Like I said, there are many many posiotive things a woman could get out of having a kid, but that's just not one of them.
I think it in a way, denigrates women. To assoiate their "power" with a mere biological function, raher than any personalized accomplishment.
Isn't the Obama-Hillary Show just for show? I hope they both hate each other enough to never serve as veep to the other.
So GWPDA, temps are near-normal in PHX again?
So you are saying that individuals have to think only in terms of what is best for the species?
Luckily, considering what is best for the species and Salma Hayek are not mutually exclusive.
George Johnston
Clearly celebrities are best for the species. We're just trying to figure out the 'why' of that.
In the meantime....
Kim Deal/Kelley Deal '08
md (super) 80 | 02.09.08 - 12:50 pm | #
Mexican black tar in every mailbox!
I think of parenting as being more of a solemn social responsibility than personally empowering. My kids will grow up to be decent human being beings, not sexist, or racist, or homophobic. They'll understand that they had a good start, and that everyone deserves a fair shake.
I'd say that;s good for humanity, on the whole.
113 year old woman and her 89 year old daughter.
Wow. That's fantastic.
When he [obama] took the stage he said, “At some point in the evening, a light is going to shine down and you will have an epiphany and you’ll say, ‘I have to vote for Barack.’”
This is fucking hard to believe. Wow.
Charlize Theron made her first acting appearance in one of those Children of the Corn movies, as 'Screaming Girl #37' or something. Then she figured out who to sleep with...
The Kenosha Kid | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 12:47 pm | #
Snow? Where'd ya go?
and remind Arthur of his job as primary digger.
GWPDA
Our old dog was trained to start digging on the command "Find Jimmy"
Hey, long time lurker.
I'm a long-time poster over at newshounds, and I have to say that while we've seen a definite increase in normal Trolling, which has caused some problems, fortunately the kind of sniping between Obama/Hillary supporters that I've been seeing all over the Liberal Blogosphere has not happened there. It's not a very large site, especially compared to some where the debates have gotten very heated.
Good to see you all are doing well, too.
I hear in Iowa the Starbucks serve Malachai Tea
Charlize Theron had a South African accent to neutralize -- she's not Cate Blanchett.
I'm finding this to be a very clever blog... hooked!
Obama of Nazareth has got all of you guilt-ridden white wankers completely fooled.
I'd say that;s good for humanity, on the whole.
Molly Ivors |
Especially if they say in the same community, where they will, by themselves, constitute a progressive majority 
When he [obama] took the stage he said, “At some point in the evening, a light is going to shine down and you will have an epiphany and you’ll say, ‘I have to vote for Barack.’”
Well, I'm sure he wasn't completely serious.
That's a good article, though.
I hear in Iowa the Starbucks serve Malachai Tea
That would explain why HE wants Malachai, too.
JR, the biological function stops at birth, and it becomes a sociological function. For life.
And if some people--men and women--find it 'empowering', then, like I said--it depends on the definition.
It's funny that having kids is the one thing the government hasn't had nerve enough to try to regulate yet. But having kids has a bigger effect on society than anything else...mistakes and all.
Rats, I feel cheated. When I saw Obama, there were no shafts of light or ephiphanies. Nice guy and everything, though.
Obama of Nazareth has got all of you guilt-ridden white wankers completely fooled.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 12:53 pm | #
How go the deliberations at Joe Wilson's trial?
Good to see you all are doing well, too.
Duck, there's a plate of food sailing your way.
To the John McCain tune "Bomb Iran":
"Snow, Snow, Snow, where did he go?
Snow, Snow, Snow..."
Especially if they say in the same community, where they will, by themselves, constitute a progressive majority
Cows are natural commies.
Vote 4 Ron Paul! He will execute Petzold!
I hope they both hate each other
From the guy who KNOWS hate.
I'd say that's good for humanity, on the whole.
If I ever have kids, I'm sending them to you!
Obama of Nazareth has got all of you racist scum flapping your idjit gums.
/fyt
When he [obama] took the stage he said, “At some point in the evening, a light is going to shine down and you will have an epiphany and you’ll say, ‘I have to vote for Barack.’”
Political epistemology! Kewl!
At what point do we christen Obama a philosophical wonk?
"Snow, Snow, Snow, where did he go?
Snow, Snow, Snow..."
Elias | 02.09.08 - 12:54 pm | #
Dude. We get the joke.
I don't think their lawsuit ever went to trial, shitferbrains.
plantsman - it's Spring - all this week. After that....
Summer!
With the current biological realities, the reverse is not possible.
Biolgical reality is that we have too piss. We still don't think it's acceptable to piss in the streets.
Why should women have to keep being forced into that choice, why not change society to afford would-be parents more options.
Good to see you all are doing well, too.
Kim, Pb.D
Hi, Kim!
Gee, The Austin Sociopath hatin' on blacks and women.
What a surprise.
Help, I've been gummed by a newt!
Rats, I feel cheated. When I saw Obama, there were no shafts of light or ephiphanies. Nice guy and everything, though.
Obama IS Shaft!
Shut you mouth!
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At what point do we christen Obama a philosophical wonk?
Is he his own favorite philosopher?
I'm currently reading Fantasy Island: Waking Up To The Incredible Economic, Political and Social Illusions of the Blair Legacy by by Larry Elliott and Dan Atkinson
Dude. We get the joke.
geor3ge, future farmer
I'm sorry, I'm just looking for my friend. I thought a little tune might help.
JR, the biological function stops at birth, and it becomes a sociological function. For life.
So, why is adoption not "empowering"?
JR, the biological function stops at birth, and it becomes a sociological function. For life.
Hmmm...so which came first? Biology? Or sociology?
Fortunately, I have to take a shower now....
.What the fuck is so empowering about having a kid?
I'd think that designing a building, doing medical research, writing a novel would be empowering.
...JR, kerosene and a match
You're missing my point. When I said it would be empowering, what I meant is that having more time would make it easier for women not to have to compromise on their desire to do those other things in favor of having their own children. i.e. it would empower them to do those things. Of course, if having their own children is not important to them, the matter is moot. You seem to be saying that it shouldn't be important to them because that's what the patriarchy wants. I'm saying wouldn't it be great if it was just entirely up to them how they want to time everything?
GWPDA, I was informed by Erin that you helped me over a very rough spot I had not anticipated. If so, many thanks.
Y'alls namecalling is excellent evidence of the shabbiness of your thought.
At what point do we christen Obama a philosophical wonk?
Well, it's really philosophy of the "Jonathan Livingston Seagull" variety, so I don't know how "wonky" that is.
Maybe if he started adding some Rod McKuen to his speeches...
Where all the white women at?
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Yahoo headline: Band of female thieves target businessmen in Dallas
When I was nineteen years old, I was hiding from my brother, living in his apartment attic, with the help of my brother's sympathetic-to-me roommates. Sometimes I couldn't come home.
I spent a long night in a Jack-in-the-Box on speed, reading Malcolm X's autobiography.
I was convinced at one point that, just like Malcolm said, I was the Devil.
And now it turns out that, because I didn't vote for Obama--it's true!
Jawbone, use PayPal whenever possible and for those instances you can't, set up a seperate checking account and get a debit card for it.
Then, when you need to pay a bill online, or other suchlike, you transfer the exact amount to the seperate account and use the debit card.
The nice thing about debit cards is that they can't be debited for more than there is in the checking account.
Also, if the number is compromised, you just close the account and open a new one.
What a surprise.
Terry C, Clintonian
But they all seem kinda lame these days, don't they? Like they don't really have it in them anymore.
gotta go do a nice walk before it hits 70F here and is too hot. how we suffer.
I doubt any kind of Clinton/Obama ticket is in the works, but it would be great just for the gnashing of teeth.
Who's the second-whitest white man in politics, after McCain?
McCain/Winter '08-- A Paler Shade of White for America.... would that work?
I don't see kids as "power". Like I said, there are many many posiotive things a woman could get out of having a kid, but that's just not one of them.
I think it in a way, denigrates women. To assoiate their "power" with a mere biological function, raher than any personalized accomplishment.
JR, kerosene and a match
There are people, male and female, who are simply not cut out to be parents.
I hate the fact that they feel pressured to procreate by family and/or society.
Note to self: pitch "Jonathan Obama Seagull"* parody to MAD Magazine...
(*™© All Rights Reserved, Motherfuckers!)
Y'alls namecalling is excellent evidence of the shabbiness of your thought.
The stink and Cheeto stains do it for you.
gotta go do a nice walk before it hits 70F here and is too hot. how we suffer.
It's 25 here right now, and falling...
I'm saying wouldn't it be great if it was just entirely up to them how they want to time everything?
blerb
And I'm saying that there's so much "spawn, spawn, spawn" propaganda out there that I'm not convinced that it is an informed choice.
I also don't see how having your own kid is magically orders of magnitude more wonderful than adopting.
I'm reneging on my promise to not vote in the Democratic primary. Now that McCain has the nomination, Obama's really the only vote I could cast.
What a surprise.
Terry C, Clintonian
But they all seem kinda lame these days, don't they? Like they don't really have it in them anymore.
Marcellina
They never did.
Their entire lives consist of trolling liberal blogs and posting dumb, hateful shit.
That's sad.
Barack Obama is like a stream of bat's piss...
This road smells.
George Will, New York Post
Does it smell worse than the jock straps you usually sniff?
Well, it's really philosophy of the "Jonathan Livingston Seagull" variety, so I don't know how "wonky" that is.
Maybe if he started adding some Rod McKuen to his speeches...
dave™©
Was thinking more of the Hellenistic/Hebraic split in Western culture, between "discovery/recovery" (Aristotle v. Plato) and "revelation."
But I'm sure you're right. Please, please, no Rod McKuen. It brings on the flashbacks....
"The horror! The horror!"
Y'alls namecalling is excellent evidence of the shabbiness of your thought.
The stink and Cheeto stains do it for you.
plantsman,
I think you meant "stank"...
"other site masters egg it on (Open Left and Orange Satan I'm looking at you), then decry it with crocodile tears - phony as all hell; here, not so much.
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pluege"
Same thing at tpm. marshall cultivates the whackos then does a pearl clutch when the crop comes in.
FLAME WARS
EPISODE V
HILLARY STRIKES BACK
I doubt any kind of Clinton/Obama ticket is in the works...
It should be. 'Cause that's the Topper to Top All Toppers.
Aiight, let's go preheat the oven and miss the shit storm.
Obama's really the only vote I could cast.
Senator Obama will be SO thrilled to HEAR that.
So, why is adoption not "empowering"?
JR,
I never said it wasn't. I'm late to this discussion.
Of course adoption is empowering. I don't think nine months of gestation is as empowering as raising a child.
You can learn a lot as a parent, if you're bright. I'm not saying everyone should be a breeder! Somebody else might have...but I will tell you this:
Children are overrated, that's for sure. They DO empower a parent doing a good job, but a life without children is a life well spent, JUST AS WELL.
There isn't any zero sum game here.
Who wants to be the next person to teach me a lesson in how to lose at scrabble?
Barack Obama is like a stream of bat's piss...
Your Majesty is like a dose of the clap........
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Aiight, let's go preheat the oven and miss the shit storm.
plantsman
You have no sense of adventure.
Yahoo headline: Court throws out EPA rules to reduce mercury emissions
The actual story:
WASHINGTON - A federal appeals court said Friday the Bush administration ignored the law when it imposed less stringent requirements on power plants to reduce mercury pollution, which scientists fear could cause neurological problems in 60,000 newborns a year.
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Bush was increasing emissions, you stupid fucks.
I never said it wasn't. I'm late to this discussion.
It started with the "biological clock" muffins, and kinda went downhill from there.
Yahoo headline: Band of female thieves target businessmen in Dallas
You had me at Band of female thi
I'm reneging on my promise
You can stop right there.
IMPEACHMENT WOULD GIVE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY TOTAL ADVANTAGE OVER THE REPUBLICANS. Call nancy pelosi @1-202-225-0100 and DEMAND IMPEACHMENT. DC business hours only, call ofter, and spread it around.
Barack Obama is like a stream of bat's piss...
Your Majesty is like a dose of the clap........
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Cynicus | 02.09.08 - 1:01 pm
*applause*
watertiger, kodos4prez
How was the FOW show?
Does anyone picture between commercial breaks Tweety and Crew at MSNBC quickly huddling together giggly wildly at photo-shopped pics of Hillary on the internet like 15 yr old boys? I do.
Clintobama - the ultimate foe for Cainzilla!
Yahoo headline: Band of female thieves target businessmen in Dallas
Richard
I wonder if it's those gun-toting lesbians that Bill Orally fantasizes about.
Of all the stupid shit Pretzold had said that comment has to be the stupidest.
bye for now
Please, please, no Rod McKuen. It brings on the flashbacks....
I worked in a bookstore in San Francisco about 20-so years ago, when a woman came in looking for some McKuen (we had a couple of copies, believe it or not). She told me all about standing in a long, long line to get into a North Beach bookstore where he was signing a copy of his latest, around 1966 or so. "Like the Beatles were selling poetry."
Who wants to be the next person to teach me a lesson in how to lose at scrabble?
Uh...it's your play and I think you are going to pull this one out.
HRC will probably be our next President, but it will be okay by me because it will expose all of you as a bunch of hypocrites when she has to start bombing Iran: you know she gets the War against Islamofascism and you're going to go with her, anyway, because you want her kind of SC justices and nanny-statism.
Liars.
*applause*
Elias | 02.09.08 - 1:02 pm
It was one of Wilde's.
I think the Imus crowd gave up.
Or they're too busy wanking to respond.
Of all the stupid shit Pretzold had said that comment has to be the stupidest.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 1:03 pm | #
But let's not get any fake cheese on our fingers picking them out.
.And I'm saying that there's so much "spawn, spawn, spawn" propaganda out there that I'm not convinced that it is an informed choice.
I also don't see how having your own kid is magically orders of magnitude more wonderful than adopting.
JR, kerosene and a match
Well, if that's your perspective, obviously it makes no difference to you what advances in reproductive technology may make possible, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. But that is not everybody's perspective. The "everybody is not you" argument cuts both ways.
hadenough, I concur. JMM guilty as charged: pearl-clutching flame igniter supreme.
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How was the FOW show?
Terrific!
Comment by General Zod blocked.
This never gets old!
Uh...it's your play and I think you are going to pull this one out.
NTodd, Fästing Führer
Can I wear gloves?
Who wants to be the next person to teach me a lesson in how to lose at scrabble?
Uh...it's your play and I think you are going to pull this one out.
NTodd, Fästing Führer
I'm down to one game now. Bodies litter the game board ...
I see the li'l xenophobe is back to pretending he doesn't know that people call him names instead of engaging him intellectually not because they are unable to do so but because he's stupid and ugly and nobody likes him.
I know that it's hard to type with one hand, and all...but hasn't Tobes been really, really phoning it in lately?
Liars.
Wanker.
And I'm saying that there's so much "spawn, spawn, spawn" propaganda out there that I'm not convinced that it is an informed choice.
They say insanity is hereditary. You get it from your kids.
Y'know, I think the reason this place has stayed largely flame-war free is because it's been flame-war free.
That is, people know they can hang out here and it not turn into a 'your candidate sucks' pit. Self-perpetuating, etc.
I don't have a dog in this fight. I think Clinton's better than her campaign, and I think Obama needs some grounding. I'm just happy to watch the GOP tear out its insides.
Children are overrated, that's for sure.
Daddy-O
No it is not for sure.
Speak for yourself only, please.
"Comment by Toby Petzold blocked. [unkill][show comment]"
ALL GLORY TO THE KILLFILE!
I guess one way to look at the 'empowerment' of parenting is this: You certainly learn how to wield a certain amount of power over ONE person. And if you don't learn right, well...you're both fucked.
Most people figure it out, and it's still not illegal to just try--without so much as a high school credited course for help...
*applause*
Elias | 02.09.08 - 1:02 pm
It was one of Wilde's.
I never! It was Shaw!
philly cheese sheets
I'm down to one game now. Bodies litter the game board ... Sinfonian
I've yet to receive my pajamagram for setting you up for triple word scores you ungrateful bastid.
IMPEACHMENT WOULD GIVE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY TOTAL ADVANTAGE OVER THE REPUBLICANS. Call nancy pelosi @1-202-225-0100 and DEMAND IMPEACHMENT. DC business hours only, call ofter, and spread it around.
Start with Conyers.
the War against Islamofascism
You so funny!
McCain/Thurmond '08 Unprincipled, Dead, And Ready to Divide.
Atrios said:
Just want to thank the regulars and other commenters for managing to not turn this place into a nonstop candidate flame war. It's been a problem on other sites, but for the most part not so much here.
Thanks accepted. I've actually had the urge to bash Hillary for the last six months or so, but fortunately I had the will power to resist the temptation.
I'm just happy to watch the GOP tear out its insides.
pseudonymous in nc
I'm always pleased to see that.
I'm down to one game now. Bodies litter the game board ...
Oh, but I will go to my death with pride in my heart that I once beat you....
OWLS
IMPEACHMENT WOULD GIVE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY TOTAL ADVANTAGE OVER THE REPUBLICANS. Call nancy pelosi @1-202-225-0100 and DEMAND IMPEACHMENT. DC business hours only, call ofter, and spread it around.
Start with Conyers.
NTodd, Fästing Führer
The eternal puzzle for me is why we are such cheap whores. I mean, I suppose we all have a price, but this country sold out to a guy who never ever succeeded at anything.
WTF?
HRC will probably be our next President, but it will be okay by me because it will expose all of you as a bunch of hypocrites when she has to start bombing Iran: you know she gets the War against Islamofascism and you're going to go with her, anyway, because you want her kind of SC justices and nanny-statism.
Liars.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 1:03 pm | #
If she gets the struggle against the mohammeden menace, then why are you voting for Obama.
I'm down to one game now. Bodies litter the game board ...
Oh, but I will go to my death with pride in my heart that I once beat you....
Marcellina
I got two bingos on our last skirmish, and the bastige still beat me.
The "everybody is not you" argument cuts both ways.
blerb
here's the thing.
While it is now more acceptable for a woman to have a kid without having a hubby in tow, it is much, much less acceptable for a woman to decide not to have kids.
One more time: I never said there was anything inherently empowering about having children. What I said was that it would be empowering for some women to enjoy the same flexibility in terms of when to reproduce that men do, and that it it likely that advances in technology will soon make this possible. This doesn't seem like a sexist or even controversial statement to me, but clearly this issue is fraught with a lot of distrust and emotion.
I have to go do the grocery shopping for my family now, so I can be empowered to cook their food. Later.
I'm reminded of the hayseed woman who chose to deliver seven implanted babies. At first, she was hailed as a wingnut heroine, and received shitloads of diapers and baby stuff.
Then she dropped out of the news. I imagine she's all on her own now, with no one giving a fuck what happens to her.
it is much, much less acceptable for a woman to decide not to have kids.
JR, kerosene and a match
It's nobody's business.
Obama's all about the change. In fact, that word visually dominates his campaign signs instead of his own name. He is deliberately saying that change itself is more important than what he himself is.
I think that's the height of horseshit communism.
Adam Hominem...I thought certainly that everyone would know that I speak for no one but myself.
But thanks for the reminder.
Children ARE overrated, and I think that's what JR is talking about--that overrating. My children are a pain in the ass. I love them and always will. But disappointments come with them. I wasn't dissing anyone else's parenting job or satisfaction with it. Just bein' real.
Because, Basomatic, I wish to stir shit.
NTodd: Start with ANYONE, as of THIS moment NO-ONE is IMPEACHABLE. (Just like kings)
I never! It was Shaw!
Wilde | 02.09.08 - 1:06 pm | #
"You go in the cage.
Cage goes in the water.
Shark in the water."
While it is now more acceptable for a woman to have a kid without having a hubby in tow, it is much, much less acceptable for a woman to decide not to have kids.
JR, kerosene and a match
Not with me it ain't. I said right up front, honestly, that this figures not at all into my reasoning. nobody should be judged based on their reproductive choices period. But the fact that some may be pressured by society to make certain choices does not mean that everybody is.
Anyhow, I really gotta go now. I hope there is not bad blood between us now.
IMPEACHMENT WOULD GIVE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY TOTAL ADVANTAGE OVER THE REPUBLICANS. Call nancy pelosi @1-202-225-0100 and DEMAND IMPEACHMENT. DC business hours only, call ofter, and spread it around.
Start with Conyers.
NTodd, Fästing Führer
Problem is, the media has managed to make impeachment synonymous with Kucinich. Which means it's "Coast to Coast" (the radio show) material now, not coast to coast in the literal sense...
the height of horseshit communism.
You're funny!
I gotta learn how to type.
you want her kind of SC justices
Damn straight.
I have a daughter and I want her reproductive rights...and those of other American women...protected.
THEN there are the Duggars:
http://thumbsnap.com/v/aA1Egol7.jpg
I think it in a way, denigrates women. To assoiate their "power" with a mere biological function, raher than any personalized accomplishment.
JR,
I think I always kind of like your comments but this is total bullshit.
Are McKuen and Seagull like flus and colds, and once we've gotten through them we have some kind of antibodies?
Is that why I can't feel the surge, see the light about Obama?
Is that why I keeping asking What and How?
Ah. Old age.
Whatever, Atrios..
Everyone knows you're just in the pay of Big Hillobaminichidenson...wards.
Wow, loads of concern trolls over at CB, judging by the comments over there.
Hillary and I appreciate the civility too.
113 year old woman and her 89 year old daughter.
Most people don't make it to 89. I think there is a strong genetic component to lifespan. These people also often seem to marry someone who also lives to a very advanced age.
Ever notice how the real old usually have children who would normally be considered pretty old themselves. The 89 yr. old "Catherine Hagel’s oldest daughter, visits her often at her New Hope nursing home." I would be very very surprised if she does not drive there herself.
I was banned at AMERICAblog because I referred to it as OBAMAblog in a comment.
No shit.
Aravosis has skin so thin you can see through it.
I was banned at AMERICAblog because I referred to it as OBAMAblog in a comment.
No shit.
Aravosis has skin so thin you can see through it.
Tex
I haven't been over there in months.
Don't like the direction it's been taking.
What the fuck is so empowering about having a kid?
Having kids is exceptionally empowering for men and women - it is a totally humanizing phenomenon. It forces you to get outside yourself; and there is an incredible world out there for those who can get their heads out of their arse.
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