State Attorney General Jerry Brown, in a surprise turnabout, asked the state Supreme Court late today to overturn Proposition 8, saying the voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage violates basic rights guaranteed in the state Constitution.
Brown, whose office requires him to defend state laws unless he cannot find reasonable legal grounds to do so, said after Prop. 8 passed Nov. 4 that he would support the initiative before the state's high court.
But in a lengthy filing today, he argued that the measure was "inconsistent with the guarantees of individual liberty" in California's governing charter.
"Proposition 8 must be invalidated because the amendment process cannot be used to extinguish fundamental constitutional rights without compelling justification," Brown said.
State Attorney General Jerry Brown, in a surprise turnabout, asked the state Supreme Court late today to overturn Proposition 8, saying the voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage violates basic rights guaranteed in the state Constitution.
Someone with the courage of his convictions. Bravo!
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12.19.08 - 10:03 pm | #
Someone with the courage of his convictions. Bravo!
You know what we gotta do? Fire their asses and GET RID OF THE CAPITAL GAINS TAX!!
Ali, en vacance |
12.19.08 - 10:04 pm | #
It is true that this song is not on the album of that name. Simels would regret this, but I did do it on purpose, so I guess I should regret it personnally.
But I don't.
Blogger was acting up. So I rushed a little.
IAC atrios will probably stop by shortly and make this moot.
jayackroyd |
12.19.08 - 10:05 pm | #
State Attorney General Jerry Brown
That's our former governor .. who dated Linda Ronstadt ... GAWD IMISS THE 70S!!!!!!!
Southern Beale |
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12.19.08 - 10:05 pm | #
One of my best friends in high school was a paraplegic, (motorcycle accident) and star on the softball team we played on.
She wanted to see John Denver, and wanted four of us to go. Of course somebody used the second wheel chair and just tied their legs to the chair. Jeans covered it and we got great seats.
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars | 12.19.08 - 10:03 pm | #
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars |
12.19.08 - 10:05 pm | #
Time for me to do the ice thing again. I'm out. G'night all.
Libby, limping |
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12.19.08 - 10:06 pm | #
the ones that never knock?
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari |
12.19.08 - 10:06 pm | #
but I did do it intentionally, so I guess I should regret it personally.
Spoiled children who have never been told that you can't have things your own way all the time.
Terry C ♥s Pres. Obama |
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12.19.08 - 10:11 pm | #
A guy down the hall my freshman year (197 suspended his turntable from wires off the ceiling, so as not to have floor vibrations fuck him up, getting his music on.
I remember thinking that he loved the music more than the music loved him.
MP |
12.19.08 - 10:13 pm | #
Hi INA!!!!
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars | 12.19.08 - 10:13 pm |
hello ms fahrenheit! are you snowy this evening?
ina, cinnamon girl |
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12.19.08 - 10:13 pm | #
Thanks Feral Liberal. Been on an Ides of March jag for the last few minutes now. Didn't know much other than vehicle. Harmony to the max
ErinPDX |
12.19.08 - 10:13 pm | #
People who work in factories are stupid and we should laugh at them.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Certain oligarchs seem to hold that belief.
Terry C ♥s Pres. Obama |
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12.19.08 - 10:14 pm | #
State Attorney General Jerry Brown
That's our former governor .. who dated Linda Ronstadt ... GAWD IMISS THE 70S!!!!!!!
Southern Beale
Former mayor of Oakland, too, wasn't he?
Boring factoid: He signs his name Edmund G. Brown Jr. , w/ no comma between Brown and Jr.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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12.19.08 - 10:14 pm | #
"He's just acting."
well, maybe he's sore from the asswhuppin he got form his mama cause she was not happy with him
Uncle Blodge, Total Sap |
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12.19.08 - 10:14 pm | #
ina
those girls are gonna be great comics artists. you guys are lucky living so close to Words&Pictures.
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari |
12.19.08 - 10:14 pm | #
Former mayor of Oakland, too, wasn't he?
Dunno 'bout that ... I moved to Tennessee in '86 ...
Southern Beale |
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12.19.08 - 10:15 pm | #
hello ms fahrenheit! are you snowy this evening?
Not at all.
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars |
12.19.08 - 10:15 pm | #
Thanks Feral Liberal. Been on an Ides of March jag for the last few minutes now. Didn't know much other than Vehicle. Harmony to the max
ErinPDX
I love "Vehicle."
Loved it from the first time I ever heard it back in high school.
They did another one called "Superman".
Terry C ♥s Pres. Obama |
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12.19.08 - 10:15 pm | #
every way to paradise
charley | 12.19.08 - 10:07 pm | #
I would concur with that
Uncle Blodge, Total Sap |
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12.19.08 - 10:15 pm | #
The authors of the state Constitution, he said, did not intend "to put a group's right to enjoy liberty to a popular vote."
Well, duh.
Because the next logical step is to round up bigoted fundie asshats and toss them into camps, althought he bigoted fundie asshats are too fucking stupid to realize it.
"First they came for the Jews..."
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
12.19.08 - 10:15 pm | #
I remember thinking that he loved the music more than the music loved him.
mrs. f.
I'm quite the bumper and setter btw. Not bad at spiking.
ErinPDX |
12.19.08 - 10:16 pm | #
California has a weird glitch that allows some changes in the state constitution to be made by straight popular vote; while others must be done by amendment with approval of the legislature as well.
This is why Massachusetts' gay marriage thang has not been overturned. The Legislature will not let it go to a vote.
You can do that these days, if you want to.
MP |
12.19.08 - 10:16 pm | #
Terry C i'll look for that.
ErinPDX |
12.19.08 - 10:17 pm | #
Erin
It is freaky the things we have in common. East coast and West coast, sort of.
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars |
12.19.08 - 10:17 pm | #
ina
those girls are gonna be great comics artists. you guys are lucky living so close to Words&Pictures.
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari
thanks. they are really enjoying making art.
the museum is gone though.
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12.19.08 - 10:17 pm | #
I had my nails done today and the woman who owns the shop says her business in downtown DC is way, way, way down. As in, they may close in a few weeks. Came out to Arlington for a pedicure the Friday before xmas. No one in the shop.
I think even DC isn't recession proof.
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12.19.08 - 10:18 pm | #
Because the next logical step is to round up bigoted fundie asshats and toss them into camps, althought he bigoted fundie asshats are too fucking stupid to realize it.
That's what I like about you.
Always looking at the BRIGHT side.
Terry C ♥s Pres. Obama |
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12.19.08 - 10:18 pm | #
First they came for the A-list bloggers ...
But because I got no hits or comments or BlogAds I didn't pay attention ...
Doug Watts |
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12.19.08 - 10:18 pm | #
i love this guy, he never gives up...
charley |
12.19.08 - 10:18 pm | #
"I'm quite the bumper and setter btw. Not bad at spiking."
that would be volleyball
I hate it. I'd get talked into playing for fun and the ball would ricochet off me and bash the 10 year old daughter of someone in the nose.
that happened three times to me. We are not making this up.
Uncle Blodge, Total Sap |
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12.19.08 - 10:18 pm | #
we're all just merkins mrs. f
hee
calm before the storm here now
16 y/o bday is on the Solstice
2-3 day party starts tomorrow PM
ErinPDX |
12.19.08 - 10:18 pm | #
Does Atrios even still have cats?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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12.19.08 - 10:19 pm | #
I would concur with that
Uncle Blodge, Total Sap |
hello, uncle blodge!
are you out for the holiday break or do you have a couple days next week (the girls go monday and tuesday, if there's no snowstorm...)
ina, cinnamon girl |
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12.19.08 - 10:19 pm | #
let's play the Watergate Tapes!
DuaneV, AlfFan |
12.19.08 - 10:20 pm | #
well then Blodge, you can fetch drinks for us during time outs
ErinPDX |
12.19.08 - 10:20 pm | #
Not possible.
Southern Beale
This dude was so anal when it came to just fucking playing a record.
He had to carefully select the jacket, lift the album out like it was made of uranium, clean it with a brush/spray contraption.
By the time any music happenned, he was alone.
MP |
12.19.08 - 10:20 pm | #
bumper and setter btw.
Ditto, but I am best at serving, not spiking. Of course, I need to get back into it, but practice for the girls starts soon.
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars |
12.19.08 - 10:20 pm | #
The American criminal justice and prison system is a national disgrace, that should provoke a sense of deep moral urgency as to fixing it. But it fundamentally depends upon the notion that it's easy to separate, unambiguously and forever, those who deserve rights and those who do not, those who are to be treated as fully human and those who do not. If you don't think you'll ever have a problem with the system, unlike Those People--and we both know who they are--then you won't care if they all get locked up. Tough on crime.
Until you get that call...
ProfWombat |
12.19.08 - 10:20 pm | #
let's play the Watergate Tapes!
Goddess guard Deep Throat. May he find his way to the Summerlands. May his friends and family know peace. T
hanks for saving my country, Man.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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12.19.08 - 10:21 pm | #
"are you out for the holiday break or do you have a couple days next week"
door 2
ain't looking forward to it
Uncle Blodge, Total Sap |
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12.19.08 - 10:21 pm | #
The authors of the state Constitution, he said, did not intend "to put a group's right to enjoy liberty to a popular vote."
Certainly Prop 8 was a revision, not an amendment, which requires a slightly higher threshold for passage...
NTodd, PaxLive @ 3pm Eastern |
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12.19.08 - 10:23 pm | #
I had my nails done today and the woman who owns the shop says her business in downtown DC is way, way, way down. As in, they may close in a few weeks. Came out to Arlington for a pedicure the Friday before xmas. No one in the shop.
I think even DC isn't recession proof.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
driving home from getting our tree today, driving slowly 'cause i tied it on myself(!), as we passed the car dealership that's a few blocks from our house, it was gone! no cars on the lot and a "for lease" sign in the window.
ina, cinnamon girl |
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12.19.08 - 10:23 pm | #
Wombat, yes it is. All that money should be diverted to drug treatment dollars. No need to ever build another prison....let the pot smokers free.
ErinPDX |
12.19.08 - 10:23 pm | #
"well then Blodge, you can fetch drinks for us during time outs"
and I'll cheer
hey I played football. if it wasnt for playing center I'd a never touched the ball
Uncle Blodge, Total Sap |
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12.19.08 - 10:23 pm | #
Former mayor of Oakland, too, wasn't he?
Yeah, and not exactly a shining "liberal" star.
He run on a rather law-n-order-esque platform for Attorney General.
we are so fucking broke we haven't bought anything but a few toys for the kids. today was payday, so after the bills and the mortgage there is enough left for gifts for the nephews and nieces, and a trinket or two for Ibrahim.
this whole poverty thing sucks hardest at the holidays.
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari |
12.19.08 - 10:25 pm | #
No need to ever build another prison....let the pot smokers free.
Certainly Prop 8 was a revision, not an amendment, which requires a slightly higher threshold for passage...
NTodd, PaxLive @ 3pm Eastern | Homepage | 12.19.08 - 10:23 pm | #
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"this whole poverty thing sucks hardest at the holidays."
yeah
not a lot of fun most any time
Uncle Blodge, Total Sap |
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12.19.08 - 10:26 pm | #
Most people run on a law & order platform for Attorney General.
Doug Watts |
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12.19.08 - 10:26 pm | #
and hey srcfo
how is you
Uncle Blodge, Total Sap |
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12.19.08 - 10:27 pm | #
this whole poverty thing sucks hardest at the holidays.
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari
Yes. And the rest of the year, it blows.
DuaneV, AlfFan |
12.19.08 - 10:27 pm | #
I'm not telling my high school on the tubes after the spocko speech of the holiday season '08.
I don't know where I learned to have fun sober, but it is fascinating.
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars |
12.19.08 - 10:27 pm | #
BTW, kids, if you like some semi-traditional Xmas music, the local classical station just switched over to all Xmas from now until the Big Day. Can be listened to over the internet.
hey I played football. if it wasnt for playing center I'd a never touched the ball
Uncle Blodge, Total Sap
I played football too. Back when you could play as a kinda small guy.
Got the crap knocked out of me. I liked baseball better.
I couldn't hit a high velocity fastball that moved in toward the batter's hands worth two shits.
Luckily, I could pitch one.
MP |
12.19.08 - 10:28 pm | #
I'm quite the bumper and setter btw. Not bad at spiking.
[passes out]
[comes to]
Rethinks the airport woman's post...
[passes out]
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I'm sorry. The discussion was about volleyball.
My bad....
billy b |
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12.19.08 - 10:28 pm | #
Certainly Prop 8 was a revision, not an amendment, which requires a slightly higher threshold for passage...
NTodd, PaxLive @ 3pm Eastern | Homepage | 12.19.08 - 10:23 pm | #
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Amendment.
Doug Watts
No, it is being argued that it is a revision because it was a fundamental change the Constitution, and that requires the Leg...
NTodd, PaxLive @ 3pm Eastern |
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12.19.08 - 10:28 pm | #
The UCC church we attend had a Blue Christmas service, for those who have trouble, for whatever reason, with the holidays...
ProfWombat |
12.19.08 - 10:28 pm | #
That's cool. I knew a few. LOL
.
bluesman,Atlatlcommandoloon |
12.19.08 - 10:29 pm | #
Seems to me debt is the cause of your poverty
GOD |
12.19.08 - 10:29 pm | #
uncle blodge: doing good! watchin movies...we just finished bad santa. that was hilarious! how u?
srcfo |
12.19.08 - 10:29 pm | #
"Does Atrios even still have cats?"
dunno. they may be on strike for treats.
jdw |
12.19.08 - 10:29 pm | #
2-3 day party starts tomorrow PM
after 10 am tomorrow here
but it sounds like its going to be worse down there. One reason I appreciate the Puget Sound.
Tlazolteotl |
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12.19.08 - 10:29 pm | #
finally purchased a couple of things today
ErinPDX |
12.19.08 - 10:29 pm | #
JP,
LE looks a bit like our cat, Marv.
Tlazolteotl |
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12.19.08 - 10:30 pm | #
Bad Santa is one of my favorites, we have it lined up for Xmas Eve
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari |
12.19.08 - 10:30 pm | #
like?
billy b |
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12.19.08 - 10:30 pm | #
Amendment.
Doug Watts
No, it is being argued that it is a revision because it was a fundamental change the Constitution, and that requires the Leg...
NTodd, PaxLive @ 3pm Eastern | Homepage | 12.19.08 - 10:28 pm | #
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I see. My terms are backwards. My bad.
And it is a fundafuckingmental change to the Constitution.
well good for Jerry Brown.
Doug Watts |
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12.19.08 - 10:31 pm | #
finally purchased a couple of things today
ErinPDX
ooo... christmas music... tooo much already. Though I did hear a Louis Armstrong Christmas song the other day, title unknown, that really swung & slammed at the same time. Maybe I should find some more of his stuff...
nick carraway |
12.19.08 - 10:31 pm | #
I'm up for a Eschacon dodgeball game.
Is that politically incorrect?
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars |
12.19.08 - 10:31 pm | #
"how u?"
better than yesterday!
thanks for askin
Uncle Blodge, Total Sap |
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12.19.08 - 10:31 pm | #
Bad Santa is one of my favorites, we have it lined up for Xmas Eve
Never saw it until tonight. We watched the extended naughtier version. Fucking laughed our asses off.
NTodd, PaxLive @ 3pm Eastern |
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12.19.08 - 10:32 pm | #
finally purchased a couple of things today
our family [large] picked names at thanksgiving for a book-themed christmas. it was nice and easy!
srcfo |
12.19.08 - 10:32 pm | #
2-3 day party starts tomorrow PM
after 10 am tomorrow here
Fall of dark, here, overnight, until the light on the 21st.
Is that politically incorrect?
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars | 12.19.08 - 10:31 pm | #
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Only if clothes are worn.
Doug Watts |
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12.19.08 - 10:33 pm | #
Bad Santa is one of my favorites, we have it lined up for Xmas Eve
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari
A fine plan. That movie is absolutely hilarious. Instant Classic.
I'll be watching it, along with Christmas Vacation, and Christmas Story, and Its a Wonderful Life, every year...
DuaneV, AlfFan |
12.19.08 - 10:33 pm | #
And it is a fundafuckingmental change to the Constitution.
Absofuckinglutely. Sad that prog Californians couldn't mobilize enough effort to prevent its passage in the first place. Good to see so much national interest now, though...
NTodd, PaxLive @ 3pm Eastern |
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12.19.08 - 10:33 pm | #
"I'm up for a Eschacon dodgeball game."
hated dodgeball
HATED it
hell on a fat kid
Uncle Blodge, Total Sap |
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12.19.08 - 10:33 pm | #
Here's your typical wingnut comment from the "liberal" SF Kronkinle:
Can we cut to the chase here? There is no fundamental "right" for a man to put his d*** in another man's a** and pretend it is normal. The only reason the gay population hasn't crashed like it has throughout history is because the zillions of dollars spent on HIV research and AIDS drugs. So Lance and his boyfriend can infect another 100 people in the coming year.
I haven't bought one thing yet.
I finally have ideas for the girls, tho.
They have been using me as an ATM for gifts for their friends for days now. Grrrrr.
While I'm happy they like to give, I am getting a little anxious for the Christmas break.
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars |
12.19.08 - 10:34 pm | #
I'm up for a Eschacon dodgeball game.
Sure, it will be one of the action scenes in the movie Eschaton. There will be stunts.
bluesman,Atlatlcommandoloon |
12.19.08 - 10:34 pm | #
hell on a fat kid
It was weird - I was never really "taunted" for being overweight in grammar school.
that's his grandma over there.
charley |
12.19.08 - 10:35 pm | #
fundamental "right" for a man to put his d*** in another man's a**
Well, I'm a crazy old woman and it's funny to make jokes about killing members of my religion, but I will go to my grave believing that all acts of love and pleasure are rituals of the Goddess.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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12.19.08 - 10:35 pm | #
"finally purchased a couple of things today"
bought the wife some stuff yesterday, then it went on sale today, so while she was gone i ran up and got a $25 credit. that was nice.
in keeping with my always romantic gifts i got her:
a hose reel
a nice stainless pasta pot
a fiesta place setting
wiper blades and a jug of wiper fluid
reagel crossword book
an obama book
jdw |
12.19.08 - 10:36 pm | #
ms f: "They have been using me as an ATM for gifts for their friends"
Is that common these days or was it in the old days and I never noticed?
nick carraway |
12.19.08 - 10:36 pm | #
I'm up for a Eschacon dodgeball game.
I'll referee.
How do you referee, BTW, other than owning a really nice whistle?
MP |
12.19.08 - 10:36 pm | #
in keeping with my always romantic gifts i got her:
a hose reel
a nice stainless pasta pot
a fiesta place setting
wiper blades and a jug of wiper fluid
reagel crossword book
an obama book
I'm up for a Eschacon dodgeball game.
Sure, it will be one of the action scenes in the movie Eschaton. There will be stunts.
bluesman,Atlatlcommandoloon | 12.19.08 - 10:34 pm | #
--
My contract calls for a stunt double and two masseuses.
Doug Watts |
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12.19.08 - 10:38 pm | #
"It was weird - I was never really "taunted" for being overweight in grammar school.
More so in jr. high..."
when I turned from 5'1" and 170 pounds to 5'10" and 175 around 12 or 13, I did decide to discuss the previous taunting with a few people
not proud of it - I was a little out of control
Uncle Blodge, Total Sap |
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12.19.08 - 10:38 pm | #
he's not sell'n any alibis, as you stare into the vacum of his eyes.
and he says, hey baby, would you like to make a deal?
charley |
12.19.08 - 10:39 pm | #
"You romantic devil, you."
the hose reel is delux. i'm gonna get many, many, um...favors with that one!
jdw |
12.19.08 - 10:39 pm | #
The fact that we were the smallest, slowest varsity football team in the district did not stop us.
Did not stop us from being 1-11.
MP |
12.19.08 - 10:40 pm | #
Is that common these days or was it in the old days and I never noticed?
I don't remember it, but it has been for my kid's entire school careers.
Dodging is good in dodgeball. Being fast helps beat the boys. Hmmmmmm, I better start going to the Y every day.
I have completely lost my ability to ski, so........
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars |
12.19.08 - 10:40 pm | #
the hose reel is delux. i'm gonna get many, many, um...favors with that one!
So mote it be!
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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12.19.08 - 10:40 pm | #
dark days - i am sure glad that caroline kennedy will have a new job, at least the american dream is alive for someone
Syd B |
12.19.08 - 10:41 pm | #
"I have completely lost my ability to ski, so........"
I am so unatheletic...
amazing I did as well as I did
Uncle Blodge, Total Sap |
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12.19.08 - 10:41 pm | #
"So mote it be!"
i loves my ever practical woman.
jdw |
12.19.08 - 10:42 pm | #
Yeah, I don't think we bought gifts for our classmates either... in elementary school, we were expected to bring treats for the last day of school before Christmas break though-- & that was about it.
I try not to think about being a kid a lot but when I do it sometimes seems like the Bronze Age... it was only thirty some years ago.
nick carraway |
12.19.08 - 10:43 pm | #
There is no fundamental "right" for a man to put his d*** in another man's a** and pretend it is normal.
This moron probably can't get ANYONE to fuck him without giving him their credit card first.
WHY is it HIS business who anyone sleeps with?
Terry C ♥s Pres. Obama |
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12.19.08 - 10:43 pm | #
I want to wish you a merry christmas from the bottom of my heart. Christ-types at least.
Le Jackel |
12.19.08 - 10:44 pm | #
It's funny how in that "Modern Times" clip, they took him away to the sanitarium in his working overalls, and released him later in his tramp clothes.
MP |
12.19.08 - 10:44 pm | #
TerryC: there are those who assert rights for themselves, without it being a demand on anybody else. There are those whose assertion of their own rights isn't meaningful, isn't valid to them, unless it compromises the rights of others.
Seems to me the former positionis tenable, the latter not.
ProfWombat |
12.19.08 - 10:46 pm | #
Hecate, clearly Miss Thing is the Princess of Quitealot.
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere |
12.19.08 - 10:46 pm | #
"Seems to me the former position is tenable, the latter not."
only sensible
Uncle Blodge, Total Sap |
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12.19.08 - 10:46 pm | #
dark days - i am sure glad that caroline kennedy will have a new job, at least the american dream is alive for someone
Syd B
caroline deserves that fuck'n job. she lost everyone. she deserves that job and i hope i don't hear any more bullshit from supposed liberals who say she doesn't. it could be some one else, but she'd be fine, and if she wants it i hope she gets it.
not directed at you Syd, just say'n/.\
charley |
12.19.08 - 10:46 pm | #
I want to wish you a merry christmas from the bottom of my heart. Christ-types at least.
Feliz Navidad
Feliz Navidad
Feliz Navidad y Anno Nuevo Felicitad
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari |
12.19.08 - 10:47 pm | #
Hecate, clearly Miss Thing is the Princess of Quitealot.
It's her world; I just live in it.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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12.19.08 - 10:47 pm | #
I saw some truly wonderful concerts in the period 1968-1971.
In August 1969, at the New York Pavilion of the old 1964 World's Fair, I saw Santana. They played for at least three hours straight, no break. We left at that point, but they were still going strong. Unreal.
In 1970, Princeton had astounding concerts. I was a dumb freshman, but lo, there was James Taylor, with his then main squeeze Joni Mitchell. Astounding. A month or two later, the single best concert I've ever seen, Cat Stevens. He was more precise live than on his recent record, Tea for the Tillerman. Three years later I was involved with a gifted pianist, and accompanied her to various concerts, including one by a very young André Watts. Wowzers.
David Derbes, worried |
12.19.08 - 10:47 pm | #
I will go to my grave believing that all acts of love and pleasure are rituals of the Goddess.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Rightards don't do love and/or pleasure.
They're too much into hatred of and inflicting pain on others.
Terry C ♥s Pres. Obama |
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12.19.08 - 10:47 pm | #
the point about language and we regret we have to resort to language, is that it is massive and takes profound effort to change. change sometimes is subtle, for example, the switch to gender neutral english. difficult to say the least. but the rewards are likely bountiful.
Le Jackel |
12.19.08 - 10:47 pm | #
"Miss Thing wonders to where Wiley and Gitmo have gone."
Remember when these gifs were like TOTALLY cool??
annie |
12.19.08 - 10:48 pm | #
TerryC: there are those who assert rights for themselves, without it being a demand on anybody else. There are those whose assertion of their own rights isn't meaningful, isn't valid to them, unless it compromises the rights of others.
Seems to me the former position is tenable, the latter not.
ProfWombat
There's a line in Annie Hall where Woody Allen's character says something about not being able to fully enjoy life if he knows that somewhere other people are suffering.
The haters aren't happy unless they know that somewhere other people are suffering.
Terry C ♥s Pres. Obama |
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12.19.08 - 10:49 pm | #
when bill clinton enacted welfare 'reform', no one ever could have predicted that the nation might one day face financial hardship...
i am just glad that bill clinton's internatioanl buckraking means that he will never face financial hardship
the american dream lives for another american
Syd B |
12.19.08 - 10:51 pm | #
Miss Thing wonders to where Wiley and Gizmo have gone.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
That's a gorgeous cat.
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12.19.08 - 10:52 pm | #
You are a show off.
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars
No, ma'am. I'm just old.
Steve Simels has seen probably four hundred times the music I have live.
And don't get me started on my old friend Shepard Samuels. He began as a disk jockey at Tulane's radio station WTUL in 1970.
He's still there. On a first name basis with every Neville and every Marsalis, knew Prof. Longhair, knows Marcia Ball, Dr. John, Trent Reznor, and every other musician in New Orleans. I am not remotely joking about this.
Probably the single greatest authority on reggae in North America.
David Derbes, worried |
12.19.08 - 10:52 pm | #
Thanks, Terry. She thinks so, too.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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12.19.08 - 10:53 pm | #
for example, terry C is always a her and prof wombat is always a her. always. see.
Le Jackel |
12.19.08 - 10:53 pm | #
knew Prof. Longhair
that guy kicks ass.
charley |
12.19.08 - 10:53 pm | #
for example, terry C is always a her and prof wombat is always a her. always. see.
Le Jackel
And I never know what the hell you're going on about.
Terry C ♥s Pres. Obama |
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12.19.08 - 10:54 pm | #
Hello everyone--we have a lot of snow will most likely have a white christmas--hope my fellow traveler's a warm and comfortable tonight.
sconset |
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12.19.08 - 10:54 pm | #
In 1970, Princeton had astounding concerts.
Derbes, did you see the Dead in April of 1971? Legendary now cuz the Pig was "on" ...
Stunt Woman |
12.19.08 - 10:54 pm | #
if you are disinclined, ask yerself, is yer moms a he. nope.
Le Jackel |
12.19.08 - 10:55 pm | #
ask yerself, is yer moms a he. nope.
I would HOPE not.
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12.19.08 - 10:55 pm | #
The Milgram Experiment films are on youtube.
After watching them, I'm not sure what it really proved.
I supposed everyone asked to participate in an experiment, especially under the auspices of Yale University, in 1961, wanted to "do it right".
But most all the "teachers', when getting feedback that the "shock" was hurting the "learner", recoiled about it, to varying degrees.
Some teachers were really getting kind of worked up about it.
MP |
12.19.08 - 10:56 pm | #
charley | 12.19.08 - 10:46 pm | #
caroline kennedy deserves jack shit!
i am an irish american who can't watch anything involving the deaths of john and bobby, but no one deserves a senate because they have a famous name...
no fucking way - it is nepotism plain an simple
give that seat to an out-of-work equally qualified american - there are millions
Syd B |
12.19.08 - 10:56 pm | #
"And I never know what the hell you're going on about."
I'd worry if you did
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12.19.08 - 10:56 pm | #
I'm up for a Eschacon dodgeball game.
I'll referee.
How do you referee, BTW, other than owning a really nice whistle?
MP
Wow, I loved fucking dodgeball. I kick ass at that... I sure hope everybody really is naked. That'd be a blast!
DuaneV, AlfFan |
12.19.08 - 10:56 pm | #
I'm going now. Love to you all, namestealers and trolls included.
I love the rest of you.
Sweet dreams.
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars |
12.19.08 - 10:56 pm | #
TerryC: I don't think it's about hatred so much as power. The hatred, the pleasure in another's suffering, the necessity that another's rights be compromised by the assertion of your own, all follow from that.
Much of the social pathologies associated in this society with blacks, gays and others has less to do with their specific natures than it does with their powerlessness, their subjugation. You let gay folk out of the closet, let them lead normal lives, they won't look quite so much like The Other anymore; their rights would seem normal. You actually know real women who are witches, who go about their witchcraft as part of their everyday lives, you'll react differently to a media caricature of them. Jews. Irish. Chinese. Like that.
Or am I being too politically correct?
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12.19.08 - 10:56 pm | #
I don't think it's about hatred so much as power. The hatred, the pleasure in another's suffering, the necessity that another's rights be compromised by the assertion of your own, all follow from that.
Demonizing others makes the pathetic little haters feel better about themselves.
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12.19.08 - 11:01 pm | #
I will go to my grave believing that all acts of love and pleasure are rituals of the Goddess.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Do you know any beautiful witches between 30 and 39?
DuaneV, AlfFan |
12.19.08 - 11:01 pm | #
Derbes, did you see the Dead in April of 1971? Legendary now cuz the Pig was "on" ...
Stunt Woman
Regrettably, no.
The one that I really regret was Floyd in '72. Big physics test the next day from John Wheeler. Bob Jantzen my good friend (and easily three times smarter than me) made the same decision. He could have gone without damage. Not me.
David Derbes, worried |
12.19.08 - 11:02 pm | #
You actually know real women who are witches, who go about their witchcraft as part of their everyday lives,
Wicca makes a helluva lot more sense to me than these "mainstream religions" that put down women and gays.
Terry C ♥s Pres. Obama |
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12.19.08 - 11:03 pm | #
He could have gone without damage. Not me.
David Derbes, worried
David: how was Wheeler personally? Read him in a variety of venues; became curious about him in a way not everybody makes me curious...
ProfWombat |
12.19.08 - 11:03 pm | #
give that seat to an out-of-work equally qualified american - there are millions
Syd B
well, i'm irish american, and i got a better name than them. and while i do have a job it sucks, and it's part time so i was think'n it could be me. but it's not going to be.
for rich folks you could do worse than a kennedy. i'm just saying she's a class act, not no sarah palin.
charley |
12.19.08 - 11:04 pm | #
no one deserves a senate seat because they have a famous name...
No one deserves to be denied political office because they have a famous name, either.
Terry C ♥s Pres. Obama |
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12.19.08 - 11:04 pm | #
Friday cat and parrot blogging at the link!
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12.19.08 - 11:05 pm | #
Wicca makes a helluva lot more sense to me than these "mainstream religions" that put down women and gays.
Terry C ♥s Pres. Obama
Me too, which is exactly my point. I'm tired of people who just love thinking inside the box created for them.
DuaneV, AlfFan |
12.19.08 - 11:05 pm | #
for rich folks you could do worse than a kennedy. i'm just saying she's a class act, not no sarah palin.
charley