I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

GravatarI'll be ernest if you'd rather.


GravatarSurely, you jest.


GravatarNot first, just smarter


GravatarI am not frank, I am


GravatarNorman Lear said recently in an interview that Mary Hartman was about the effect of the media on a rural midwestern household.

Damn, I would like to see that again! He was ahead of his time.


GravatarEl Gato Negro, chicken with pico de gallo and fresh spinach salad?  The spinach salad contains bacon...


GravatarStop calling me Shirley!

I mean, Frank.


GravatarLet's - but don't call me Frank


GravatarFrank, my dear, I don't give a damn.


GravatarOK, Frank...


GravatarSurely, you jest.
Lindsey Graham | 07.18.09 - 9:36 pm | #


Stop calling me Shirley!


Gravatarherb Johnson is right about Norman Lear.


GravatarFrankie was a good woman
Everybody knows


Gravatarwhat is this place now?


GravatarI had an uncle named Frank.


GravatarSallyh, I can be there by in the morning. Save me some. Thanks!


GravatarFrank's my brother...


GravatarRolling Stone had an article once that said that there were two types of people in the world--those who got Mary Hartman, and those who didn't.

I'm in the second group.


GravatarFrankie was a good woman
Everybody knows
BlueinColorado

until you done her wrong.


GravatarOops


GravatarI had an Uncle Doris.

(If I'm lyin', I'm dyin'.)


Gravatartena? woody? olaf? lil red?

mena?


GravatarAre they finally getting a specific number of the Iraqis we have killed since we spread freedom on them?

No, and they never will.


Kind of hard to put the petals back on the daisy enough to verify such things.


GravatarFrank was my Grandfather.

Sorry, can't be Frank.


GravatarIt's nice to know that Frank Stallone still gets work.
.


GravatarSo this bartender back in the late '70s said to me, "Let's be frank", and I said "OK, Frank!", and for the rest of the night, everybody in the bar was Frank. Which was a hoot for everyone in the bar except for this one guy named...Frank.


Gravataragave, Atrios is on vacation. He's got sardines and johns and etc helping him out.

By the way, how are you?


GravatarLiberals need to read this from the American Thinker:


The Hero of Chappaquiddick
Otis A. Glazebrook IV
The Incident that saved America from a Teddy Kennedy Presidency occurred forty years ago today. As true American heroes Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin and Michael Collins were streaking their way to the Moon on Apollo 11; the Hero of Chappaquiddick earned his (yellow) stripes by allowing the drowning of Mary Jo Kopechne.

No autopsy was performed on Ms. Kopechne's body; however there was some evidence discovered by the funeral director and presented by the District Attorney that Mary Jo suffocated in an air pocket. If confirmed this should have make Senator Kennedy's behavior that night rise to the crime of manslaughter -- but this was Massachusetts. Judge Bernard Brominski ruled against exhumation and autopsy on December 10th, 1969.

The Left's Hero gave multiple accounts of the events of that night. Thus leading one to believe that his nickname has been misspelled all these years since.

Shouldn't it read: ‘The Lyin' of the Senate'?

Once again Ms. Kopechne was unavailable for comment.


GravatarFrank killed my brother, uh...whatshisname.

Nevermind.


GravatarRolling Stone had an article once that said that there were two types of people in the world--those who got Mary Hartman, and those who didn't.

Sorry, wiley, I was in the first group and loved it. Dunno how I'd feel about it at this point.


GravatarI saw mena last weekend at Blissfest.


GravatarFor all of you who can't be Frank..who would you like to be?


Gravatarwhat is this place now?
agave


Same as it ever was, only different...


Gravataroy!!

what if Glorious Emperor Hussein Jutting-Chin Jiveass-Narcissus decreed new taxes to fund his hairball schemes, and n-n-n-n-n-nobody paid?

t-t-t-t-t-teh h-h-h-h-h-horror!


GravatarOnce again, any republican who has ever done anything for their country is not available for comment.


GravatarIt is a measure of the good that Ted Kennedy has accomplished throughout his life and career that the wingnuts cannot let go of Chappaquiddick.


GravatarFor all of you who can't be Frank..who would you like to be?

Atrios, duh!

Now when do I guest post?


GravatarMoonbats,

I have such a weird story to tell you.

We found Audrey's bike, outside an AA meeting, but the cops don't think it's important enough to help us get it back. It was locked to the street light post. They told her to steal it back, but WE DON'T HAVE LOCK CUTTERS.

In the meanwhile, I went into the 7/11, and there were 2 cop cars there. They were buying....doughnuts, and coffee.


Gravatarmer

I am aware of ...

fine how are you?


Gravatar"Lion Of The Senate"

but can he swim drunk?

phuck no!


Gravatarwhat if Glorious Emperor Hussein Jutting-Chin Jiveass-Narcissus decreed new taxes to fund his hairball schemes, and n-n-n-n-n-nobody paid?

t-t-t-t-t-teh h-h-h-h-h-horror!
Lubyanka


It would depend, of course, but eventually a lot of you loonies would be in prison, where you belong.


GravatarSaw Woody at Blissfest, too.


GravatarWhen we were in the first emergency room a couple of weeks ago, a nurse called my husband, Hey Buddy. That's when we walked out without seeing a doctor, after waiting for 2-1/2 hours.

WTF? Buddy?


GravatarIn the meanwhile, I went into the 7/11, and there were 2 cop cars there. They were buying....doughnuts, and coffee.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


mmm. donuts...


GravatarI saw Vicki, Nim, Jen, Adam, fokowi, Virginia, Paul, Ruth...


GravatarLubs, you almost swore, and conservatives other than Cheney, never, never do that! It proves they're Klassy.


GravatarSame as it ever was, only different...
Meanie-Frank, tickle a person



ok and fuck you in the best way



GravatarFor all of you who can't be Frank..who would you like to be?

Me.


GravatarI can see Russia from my house.


GravatarI wanna be free, like the bluebirds flying by me...


GravatarAlso, Chidyke.


GravatarIn the meanwhile, I went into the 7/11, and there were 2 cop cars there. They were buying....doughnuts, and coffee.
Vicki,

do you have another cable & lock, double lock it to the lamp post.


GravatarFor Neocons, freedom means freeing people from their mortal coils.

Freedom's just another word for nuthin' left to lose, or so I've heard. I wish to amend the above statement to apply only for people who are not them.

Thank you.


Gravatarword has it that Teddy's no longer demonstrating the "waitress sandwich" with Chris Dodd at various watering holes...

too bad!


GravatarIn the meanwhile, I went into the 7/11, and there were 2 cop cars there. They were buying....doughnuts, and coffee.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


Did you talk to those cops?


Gravatara nurse called my husband, Hey Buddy.

A number of the nurses called Ericka 'hon'. Even the young ones.


GravatarFor all of you who can't be Frank..who would you like to be?

Me.


No, seriously.


GravatarMer, I shall make sure there are plenty of leftovers


GravatarI think we'll be able to find the bike again. I saw a dude take off on it, and I followed him. It's a woman's bike, and the front tire, the one they left behind, is different from the back tire.

The cat was leaving an AA meeting, which, logic dictates, he is probably mandated by the courts to attend, so he'll be back.

We're making a plan. We're going to steal the bike back, with or without the cops' help.

Fucking useless motherfuckers. They are never where you need them to be when you need them, but they are always around when you don't.


Gravataranniversaries are great!

Mary Jo Kopechne July 26, 1940 – July 18, 1969


Gravatardo you have another cable & lock, double lock it to the lamp post.
1Watt, Hermit


He got away.


GravatarAha.

The evening cat races has begun.


GravatarA number of the nurses called Ericka 'hon'. Even the young ones.
NTodd, Wise Latina


I have been known to call my daughter "hon" upon occasion. It always brings me up short to hear myself doing it. I mean, who am I? June Fucking Cleaver?


GravatarWe found Audrey's bike, outside an AA meeting, but the cops don't think it's important enough to help us get it back. It was locked to the street light post. They told her to steal it back, but WE DON'T HAVE LOCK CUTTERS.

Call a friend, sit there and wait.


GravatarWhen we were in the first emergency room a couple of weeks ago, a nurse called my husband, Hey Buddy. That's when we walked out without seeing a doctor, after waiting for 2-1/2 hours.

They were testing a new triage technique. If you could walk out, you didn't need to be there...


GravatarNo, seriously.
Little Boots


he is


GravatarI saw Vicki, Nim, Jen, Adam, fokowi, Virginia, Paul, Ruth...


Romper stomper boo...

(or is that too old a reference?)


GravatarDid you talk to those cops?


No, I called the station, I was on the phone with them at the time, and they told me there was nothing they could do, because I'm not the complainant.


GravatarI could bring her my U-lock.

Let those simple fuckers try to cut that with bolt cutters.


GravatarWhen we were in the first emergency room a couple of weeks ago, a nurse called my husband, Hey Buddy. That's when we walked out without seeing a doctor, after waiting for 2-1/2 hours.

WTF? Buddy?
mer


I have had to have talks with some very competent ER nurses for their lapses with language. Some let the stress get to them. And yes, some nurses shouldn't be working ER in the first place.


GravatarVicki, you should have gone into the meeting and asked who's bike it was, say it was being stolen or something.


GravatarAtablarasa, yes, I remember Romper Room. 

Christ, I'm old.


GravatarA number of the nurses called Ericka 'hon'.

My Aunt Helen, who was married to Uncle Frank, used to call people "hon." She was a cocktail waitress.


GravatarMary Jo Kopechne July 26, 1940 – July 18, 1969
Lubyanka


And the intern Joe Scarborough killed?

And the thousands and thousands Bush killed?

What of them?


Gravataroh jeez


i never learn


GravatarWhen we were in the first emergency room a couple of weeks ago, a nurse called my husband, Hey Buddy. That's when we walked out without seeing a doctor, after waiting for 2-1/2 hours.

They were testing a new triage technique. If you could walk out, you didn't need to be there...


But America doesn't have socialist medicine so we don't have rationing, right?


GravatarVicki!

Weren't you the one complaining?


GravatarHey, there's Toonscribe.

What do you think of Zelaya fomenting dissent in the country he betrayed?

Ready to admit that you and Obama are supporting a Marxist criminal?


GravatarAmerican Honor.

July 4, 1776-December 12, 2000.


GravatarA couple of women at the gas station call me 'hon'.

I calmly tell them they are not my wife, girlfriend or, Mother.


Gravatardo you have another cable & lock, double lock it to the lamp post.


That's a good idea.



We also have the serial number.


GravatarMy grandfather and his brother were named Earnest, Jr. and Frank.

Not kidding.


GravatarThe serial number written on the fucking receipt.


GravatarNTodd, Ericka is probably 30+ years younger than my husband--not that it matters. Also, they were being very condensing because we kept asking when would the doctor be available. Bad experience all around.


GravatarVicki, you should have gone into the meeting and asked who's bike it was, say it was being stolen or something.
annie


And THEN what?

God you're a moron.


GravatarAnd the thousands and thousands Bush killed?

What of them?

They don't count in the conservative mindset.


GravatarToby -- Once again: does any country in the world support the new gov't in Honduras? Until at least 1 does, STFU.


Gravatarbecause I'm not the complainant.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | 07.18.09 - 9:49 pm | #


Assholes!
.


Gravatarwhat is this place now?
agave


nothing
the solvents have washed it away


GravatarAnd the thousands and thousands Bush killed?


I repeat, the term is democide:

http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills...s/ DBG.CHAP2.HTM


GravatarWeren't you the one complaining?
Prior Aelred


Prior!

Audrey is the "official" complainant.

Crazy, right? I wish I could be her advocate.

The cops won't touch this if I'm involved, because I'm not she.


GravatarReady to admit that you and Obama are supporting a Marxist criminal?
Toby Petzold


You mean the elected president? That Marxist criminal?

You really have no time for democracy, do you.


GravatarHey, there's Toonscribe.

What do you think of Zelaya fomenting dissent in the country he betrayed?

Ready to admit that you and Obama are supporting a Marxist criminal?

Define criminal, cause merka's supported more than a few in the last 50 years, yeah, even nazis. go figger!


GravatarVicki - you can only hope it was a republican who was layed off from Amway who stole Aud's bike.


Gravatarad hom

you don't like anniversaries?


GravatarA couple of women at the gas station call me 'hon'.

I calmly tell them they are not my wife, girlfriend or, Mother.
Barndog,

hell everybody in the south is named hon. sugar, or buddy.


GravatarYou'll probably get the bike back when he starts doing his "making amends" step.


Gravatarthe solvents have washed it away
ErinPDX


Bad idea to leave the cake out in the rain.


Gravatarhell everybody in the south is named hon. sugar, or buddy

I live in Michigan. There ain't a fucking thing south about Michigan .


Gravatarannie,

I didn't know that it "belonged" to someone in the meeting until I saw him leave the meeting hall.

The meeting was over. He was leaving. I couldn't have called anyone on it.

Now I know he's blond and slender.


GravatarMcArthur Park ... Damn you for melting!!!


GravatarVicki -- couldn't you hold her hand while she talked on the 'phone?


Gravatarbarndog

your credulance is incredible


GravatarNow I know he's blond and slender.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


Round up the usual suspects!


GravatarIf you support health care reform vote "No" to slow down.


Gravataryour credulance is incredible

And, your ignorance is breathtaking.


GravatarCredulence?

I repeat

God you're a moron.


GravatarI live in Michigan. There ain't a fucking thing south about Michigan .
Barndog, Blissed |


Is there a Lower Penisula?
.


GravatarTobes still hasn't cited anything in the Honduran constitution or anything yet, has he?


GravatarWas the bike thief black?


GravatarYou'll probably get the bike back when he starts doing his "making amends" step.
Steeler Fan


I don't think he's admitted humility yet. Step 1.

He could have purchased the bike from a thief, I don't know. But if I were a guy, why would I purchase a woman's 20" bike?

Whoever it is, is a dickweed.


Gravatarhow could you asshats forget the 3000 Bush killed as part of "Loose Change"?

teh horror!


GravatarI think we'll be able to find the bike again. I saw a dude take off on it, and I followed him.

next time he parks it slather the seat with super-glue and itching powder


GravatarIs there a Lower Penisula?

No.

It's the Lower Peninsula.


Gravatarok and fuck you in the best way


agave


Lessee, if I recall, you're of the male persuasion, same as me, or at least similar, so...TBNT...


GravatarA couple of women at the gas station call me 'hon'.

I calmly tell them they are not my wife, girlfriend or, Mother.


See, I don't get that whole thing. I know its kinda pushy, but I don't get
what's so offensive about hon?


GravatarNow I know he's blond and slender.
Vicki


And you know where he hangs out. Interrupting an AA meeting by saying the guy is a theif would get him many many stern lectures I'm sure.


GravatarAnd the thousands and thousands Bush killed?

What of them?

They don't count in the conservative mindset.
Barndog,

'cause they're brown, and everybody knows the brown dudes have bigger dicks than fat white guys.


GravatarToonscribe, the people of Honduras overwhelmingly support the new government.

Why isn't that the superior standard?

Because you're a hack whose opinion on this goes no further than Obama's.


GravatarTobes still hasn't cited anything in the Honduran constitution or anything yet, has he?
NTodd, Wise Latina




I know it wasn't funny, but it's funny, you know?


GravatarPrior,

She was at work. I was the one who spotted it while I was driving her to work.

We went back to the house, and she got her receipt with the serial number on it.

The cops still wouldn't deal with me, even though she called them and pleaded with them to allow me to handle it.


GravatarI know its kinda pushy, but I don't get
what's so offensive about hon?

Back in the middle ages, when I worked retail - it was Sir or Ma'am. Always. You may get fired for saying otherwise to a customer.


GravatarWhy don't you want to run over a "member of Obama's core support base" with a bike?

Because it's probably yours


GravatarRe: MI & "Southern" I know a guy who works in a flag store -- they sell more Confederate flags (i.e., the St. Andrew's Cross battle ensign) than they do American flags -- can't keep them in stock ... so there's that ...


Gravatarad hom

you missed the earlier introduction, by a fellow asshat-"progressive" of yours--of the word "credulance".

get up to speed, asshat


GravatarToonscribe, the people of Honduras overwhelmingly support the new government.

Toby Petzold


Who was it who said that everyone is entitled to their opinion, but not their own facts?

Whoever it was, Toby never heard of them, that's for sure.


GravatarWell, I am not as old as Simels, but you get the idea.


Gravatarnext time he parks it slather the seat with super-glue and itching powder




GravatarWe're not seriously expected to think a wingnut has suddenly discovered a deep love for the Honduran people, are we? Really?


Gravatarenslaved, you are now FREE! to enjoy killfile...


GravatarI'll be ernest if you'd rather.
ˇEl Gato Negro!


That's important to some...


GravatarQ.: Why are Democrats silent on Obama's choice to escalate the violence in Afghanistan and Pakistan?

A.: Because their mouths are full of "credulance" (i.e., Obamacock).


Gravatarnext time he parks it slather the seat with super-glue and itching powder

Or, better yet - grab a fews fresh habeneros and rub them on the seat.


GravatarWe're not seriously expected to think a wingnut has suddenly discovered a deep love for the Honduran people, are we? Really?
Little Boots


It does rather stretch the bound of, uh, credulity, doesn't it?


GravatarI our experience, "Buddy" was very condensing. I don't mine being called hon in the grocery store or when paying for gas. But in this situation, the nurse was trying to humor my husband and he and I found it very unprofessional.


GravatarToby,

Which member of WAR is on your gravatar?


GravatarOr, better yet - grab a fews fresh habeneros and rub them on the seat.
Barndog, Blissed
Barndog, Blissed


I should wait until you come to town, then we steal it.

I suck as a spy, though.

That's what the cops told Aud: steal it back.

Blow it out your collective asses, doughnut boys.

I'm calling my city commissioner tomorrow.


GravatarIs there a Lower Penisula?

No.

It's the Lower Peninsula.


I kind of like the other spelling better...

But maybe Sinfonia would be jealous...


GravatarInstead of questioning my interest in Honduras, how abt answering the fucking question?

Oh, that's right: because you know you're wrong.


GravatarToby's drinking problem seems to have escalated again.


Gravatarwh-wh-wh-what if Emperor Hussein Jutting-Chin Jiveass-Narcissus decreed a tax and nobody paid it...?

teh h-h-h-h-h-humanity!


GravatarI'm calling my city commissioner tomorrow.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


Good for you. Call the mayor, and the police chief, too.

What a bunch of bullshit.


Gravatar(i.e., Obamacock)

Is that cock big and long and black?


Mmmmmmmmmmmm........ Obamacock.


Gravatar"Or, better yet - grab a fews fresh habeneros and rub them on the seat."

Might be better to rub it on the handles. When he rubs his eyes...


GravatarThe cops still wouldn't deal with me, even though she called them and pleaded with them to allow me to handle it.
Vicki,

That calls for a strongly worded letter.


GravatarIs there a Lower Penisula?

No.

It's the Lower Peninsula.


I kind of like the other spelling better...

But maybe Sinfonia would be jealous...
atablarasa, deeply unserious


Sometimes a Penisula is just a Penisula.


GravatarWe're not seriously expected to think a wingnut has suddenly discovered a deep love for the Honduran people, are we? Really?
Little Boots


I'd be very surprised to find a wingnut had a deep love for anyone but another wingnut.
(In a manly, lumberjack sort of a way, of course...)


GravatarInstead of questioning my interest in Honduras, how abt answering the fucking question?

Oh, that's right: because you know you're wrong.


Wait, what exactly am I wrong about?


GravatarInstead of questioning my interest in Honduras, how abt answering the fucking question?

Oh, that's right: because you know you're wrong.
Toby Petzold


If I recall your question correctly, it was based upon a false premise. A question based upon a false premise doesn't need to be answered.

Or have you stopped beating your wife yet?


GravatarGood for you. Call the mayor, and the police chief, too.

What a bunch of bullshit.
Adam Hominem


What I'm sayin'.

It is bullshit.

I've met the mayor a dozen times; he'll remember me.

And the commissioner always wants to place signs in my yard (he's a Democrat).


GravatarThat calls for a strongly worded letter

Sign me up for the newsletter, please.


GravatarVicki, you did the work, and they won't even help you. That is unbelievable.


GravatarWhy are the wingnuts obbessed with the president's penis? (actually, I think I know the answer ...)


GravatarIt does rather stretch the bound of, uh, credulity, doesn't it?

You mean creduratance?


GravatarI write very excellent strongly worded letters, btw.


GravatarIs that cock big and long and black?

I don't know, but that sounds like a plausible description of the economic recession that the Obamareich is attempting to worsen through overtaxation.


GravatarInstead of questioning my interest in Honduras, how abt answering the fucking question?

How about formulating then supporting a thesis first?


GravatarVicki, you did the work, and they won't even help you. That is unbelievable

Now, if a joint was involved, there would be cops coming out of the woodwork with pistols drawn.


GravatarBTW, how am I a Nazi for proposing the incentivization of voluntary birth control?


GravatarBut maybe Sinfonia would be jealous...
atablarasa,

ever notice that the wang looks like it was stolen from Lake Michigan?


GravatarI write very excellent strongly worded letters, btw.


The grammar cop in me demands that "excellent" stand on its own without a modifier.

But I doubt that you or the mayor really gives a damn about the grammar cop.


GravatarMcArthur Park ... Damn you for melting!!!

Hey, it was dark.


GravatarNow, if a joint was involved, there would be cops coming out of the woodwork with pistols drawn.


Happened at Grand Valley, you know, barngod.


Gravatarever notice that the wang looks like it was stolen from Lake Michigan?

That's because Canada sucks.


GravatarI'd call the mayor on Monday.

He probably is not in on Sunday.


GravatarI'm waiting for an answer Tobes, just as the Treasury is waiting for your massive tax payment.


GravatarI don't know, but that sounds like a plausible description of the economic recession that the Obamareich is attempting to worsen through overtaxation.
Toby Petzold


I know you're probably obsessed by long black cocks, but I must say that your comparison of one to an effort to put an end to an economic recession escapes me. But then, much about you escapes me.


GravatarVicki, you can't fight city hall.

But you can toss a burning sack of dogshit on the stoop and run for your life.


GravatarHappened at Grand Valley, you know, barngod.

Met the kid a couple weeks ago in Lansing at a Compassion Club meeting.

BTW, the cop pled guilty, and will no longer be eligible for police duty.


GravatarFOX News blaming Mr. Rogers for kids and crime

Seriously. These people should be shot.


GravatarThe grammar cop in me demands that "excellent" stand on its own without a modifier.


That's a pretty unique eye for grammar you have.

/ducks


GravatarBTW, the cop pled guilty, and will no longer be eligible for police duty.


According to the Press, the cop was reinstated on Friday.


GravatarBut you can toss a burning sack of dogshit on the stoop and run for your life.
Toby Petzold


burning and dogs again.


GravatarBarndog, no one's as old as Simels.


GravatarAccording to the Press, the cop was reinstated on Friday

GTFO!!


GravatarBTW, how am I a Nazi for proposing the incentivization of voluntary birth control?
Toby Petzold


Are you drunk, Toby? Because you sound like you're drunk. In that you are making almost no sense, and are engaging in non-sequiters.


Gravatarever notice that the wang looks like it was stolen from Lake Michigan?


Well, that does require a flip-flop of the ol' wang...

By the way, I learned that there is a Kintire peninsula that was used to define just how much of an erection a man can have on British television.


GravatarBarndog, no one's as old as Simels

I realize this. He was around before air, right?


GravatarThe grammar cop in me demands that "excellent" stand on its own without a modifier.

But I doubt that you or the mayor really gives a damn about the grammar cop.


I am my own grammar cop, and I should have used a comma. That said, it works for me.


GravatarMost uniquelierest? (someone I almost miss W -- well, not really -- but "Harold & Kumar Escape from Guantanimo Bay" was pretty funny ...)


GravatarBTW, how am I a Nazi for proposing the incentivization of voluntary birth control?
Toby Petzold


So you support the Griswold decision?


GravatarBarndog,

Seriously. I'll look for the article.


GravatarBy the way, I learned that there is a Kintire peninsula that was used to define just how much of an erection a man can have on British television.
atablarasa, deeply unserious


Well, mine's big, but I doubt it measures up to an entire land mass.


GravatarI think at that weight, you can't call it a cupcake anymore

Jul 18th, 2009 | MINNEAPOLIS -- A 151-pound cupcake in Minneapolis has been certified as the world's largest.

The 1-foot tall, 2-foot wide cupcake on display Saturday at the Minneapolis Mall of America had 15 pounds of fudge filling and 60 pounds of yellow icing."


GravatarHow is executing a lawful and constitutional order issued the by the Honduran supreme court a coup?

Zelaya is a traitor on paper and in fact.

The only possible reason you dolts are denying it is because you know that your support of Obama's choice to defend Zelaya is factually and morally wrong.


GravatarPrior, I love Harold and Kumar.  Both movies.


GravatarMost uniquelierest? (someone I almost miss W -- well, not really -- but "Harold & Kumar Escape from Guantanimo Bay" was pretty funny ...)
Prior Aelred


You're a very odd man of God, if you don't mind me saying so.


GravatarI never heard of being held at gunpoint called "incentivizing"...


GravatarSeriously. These people should be shot.
Vicki,

they've forgotten about Dr. Spock.


GravatarWhy are the wingnuts obbessed with the president's penis? (actually, I think I know the answer ...)
Prior Aelred


There was this movie with Rod Steiger and Sidney Poitier...


GravatarGomez, I am pro-choice.


GravatarGomez, I am pro-choice.


Gomez is happy to know this, Toby.

Now shut the fuck up, Donny.


GravatarThe 1-foot tall, 2-foot wide cupcake on display Saturday at the Minneapolis Mall of America had 15 pounds of fudge filling and 60 pounds of yellow icing."
BlueinColorado


I wonder if I should take a stroll down there. Wonder what they plan to do with it.


GravatarGomez, I am pro-choice.
Toby Petzold


I prefer to be called Steeler Fan.

Don't Cassius Clay me.


GravatarAdam Hominem, thread killa --

TY



GravatarI love cupcakes, of whatever size, I should add.


Gravatarnon-sequiters

Are you drunk, Adam? Your Latin is really poor tonight.


GravatarBy the way, I learned that there is a Kintire peninsula that was used to define just how much of an erection a man can have on British television.
atablarasa, deeply unserious


I thought this was the Brirish standard???

http://natnemeton.files.wordpres...08/09/ cerne.jpg
.


GravatarI love cupcakes, of whatever size, I should add.

I do too, but that much frosting scares me.


GravatarOn the shore of Lake Michigan stands the black tower of the Big Willie, formerly known as the Sears Tower.

Coincidence?


GravatarBarngod,

Ottawa County deputy who shot GVSU student in drug raid will be reinstated to full duty


OTTAWA COUNTY -- Sheriff's Deputy Ryan Huizenga, who shot and injured a Grand Valley State University student during a drug raid, will be reinstated to full-duty status on Aug. 1, Sheriff Gary Rosema said Thursday.

Huizenga was working as part of the West Michigan Enforcement Team when he shot Derek Copp, 20, in the chest during a March 11 raid at Copp's off-campus apartment. His gun discharged while police were entering the home to execute a search warrant.

Copp, who was unarmed, was raising his arms to shield his face from an officer's flashlight when he was shot, his family said. He was hospitalized and recovered from his injuries.



GravatarThere was this movie with Rod Steiger and Sidney Poitier...
Meanie-meanie, tickle a person


They call me MR. TIBBS!

I love the end of that movie, when Rod Steiger is carrying Poiter's suitcase. A symbolism the young might miss, with any luck.


GravatarI prefer to be called Steeler Fan.

Don't Cassius Clay me.




You're still v. funny, honey.


GravatarAre you drunk, Adam? Your Latin is really poor tonight.
Toby Petzold


Touche.

(S'posed to be an accent over the 'e' but damned if I know how to do that.)


GravatarNot dead

and

Toby is not worth talking to

never has been never will be


GravatarYou're still v. funny, honey.

Cruelty, thy name is woman.


GravatarAO, that picture is why the British are so reserved. But the angle of the dangle wasn't supposed to pass the angle of the peninsula.

As it were.

Also.


GravatarYou're still v. funny, honey.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


Ditto from me, minus the honey part.


GravatarSending my older baby to improv camp at my alma mater tomorrow.


GravatarEvening, some


GravatarHow is executing a lawful and constitutional order issued the by the Honduran supreme court a coup?

Prove it's lawful and constitutional. Cite something instead of asserting.

Funny how you people who complain about activist judges all of a sudden are cool with the military removing a president without due process.

But if you're right, you might've busted this case open and the rest of the fucking world will apologize for not recognizing the coup.


Gravatarnever has been never will be
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |


Agreed.
First round's on me btw.
.


GravatarAO, that picture is why the British are so reserved. But the angle of the dangle wasn't supposed to pass the angle of the peninsula.

As it were.

Also.
atablarasa, deeply unserious


The penile erection angle, I understand, is mostly a function of age. So I could get a full hard on and it could be shown on British TV because I am old?


Gravatar(S'posed to be an accent over the 'e' but damned if I know how to do that.)

No, I was referring to the way you misspelled the deponent form.


GravatarErin, I hope that the youngin' doesn't come back with "This one time...at improv camp" tales!


GravatarHello hello!


GravatarErin, Good luck with that!

You are such a good momma.


GravatarSending my older baby to improv camp at my alma mater tomorrow.
ErinPDX


I think you misspelled improve. What part of him are you trying to improve?


GravatarVicki, Who ♥ Al Gore,

Yeah, I see nothing wrong with an asshole nearly killing an unarmed kid who did nothing but wonder at the noise in the back yard.

Fucking pigs.


GravatarMull of Kintyre Porn test...


And. Also.


GravatarThe penile erection angle, I understand, is mostly a function of age. So I could get a full hard on and it could be shown on British TV because I am old?


I *really* don't think that I can speak to that!!!


GravatarNo, I was referring to the way you misspelled the deponent form.
Toby Petzold


And I was agreeing with you.


GravatarCruelty, thy name is woman.
Toby Petzold


Tobes, no need to be a sexist shitnozzle.


GravatarRaising teenagers *is* improv camp


GravatarTobes, no need to be a sexist shitnozzle.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


I blame Texas. That, and the fact that he never leaves his mother's basement.


GravatarDWD,

That GVSU student, Derek Copp, got a bad rap.

Everyone knows it. The school knows it.

I think that there had to have been a back door settlement, of sorts.

I'd never rehire that cop. He was trigger happy.


GravatarRaising teenagers *is* improv camp
Gromit


Hey now! I'm *already* scared!


Gravatarmeanie-meanie, yup. Obviously my memory of TV/Film was incorrect!

And thanks for the McCartney. I've been meaning to look that up since I saw Celtic Thunder do it.


GravatarTobes, no need to be a sexist shitnozzle.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore

I blame Texas. That, and the fact that he never leaves his mother's basement.
Adam Hominem, thread killa


Well, apparently he has been to Honduras for a dog burning course or two. Where else would all this expertise come from?


GravatarI *really* don't think that I can speak to that!!!
atablarasa, deeply unserious


That's because you're young.



GravatarPrior Aelred

You're a very odd man of God, if you don't mind me saying so.
Adam Hominem, thread killa


Hey Prior, you ever heard of or read Anathem by Neal Stephenson? I'm sure it will annoy you with a monastic cliche or two, but nonetheless I think you'd get a kick out of it.


GravatarI'd never rehire that cop. He was trigger happy.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


Babe, in most places, that's considered a good thing.


GravatarVicki, Who ♥ Al Gore,

My son (who attends GVSU) will be pretty pissed off about this. The incident happened in a building adjacent to where he lives.

It could have been him.

No sympathy for the cop: go back to school and get a job where you do not carry a weapon: there are lots of them.


GravatarRaising teenagers *is* improv camp

When does it become camp camp?


GravatarBabe, in most places, that's considered a good thing.


Yet I can't get help to bust into my kid's bike, for which she paid $ 376.

That may not sound like a lot of cash to you guys, but we're not rich, and she earned every penny, schlepping heaving trays to small tables.

That kid works her ass off.


GravatarBut if you're right, you might've busted this case open and the rest of the fucking world will apologize for not recognizing the coup.

This is a perfectly clueless observation. You're like Pauline Kael not understanding how Nixon could've won re-election.


GravatarI read Stephenson's first -- it was pretty clever -- nothing since, though


GravatarSee, I've always thought you were a fairly ideal monk, Aelred, but that's just my archaic catholicism, probably.


Gravatarhope that the youngin' doesn't come back with "This one time...at improv camp" tales!

LOL

Vicki, you good mama too. Damn that pisses me off. If I lived there, I'd SO be staking that place out with you.


GravatarNo sympathy for the cop: go back to school and get a job where you do not carry a weapon: there are lots of them.
DWD-Sordid


Noticed a security officer with a sidearm the other day. Doesn't anyone get that that just means he'll be shot if anyone seriously wants what he's guarding???


GravatarThat's because you're young.

57 shortly. I just don't want to speak to your, umm, fullness of time.


GravatarI love Judi Dench. That is all.


Gravatar
That kid works her ass off.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


I'm totally with you, Vicki. You got a raw deal and I hope you scream loudly enough about it that someone listens. And maybe learns something.

In a lot of places the cops HAVE to respond. Obviously Grand Rapids is not one of them.


Gravatar57 shortly. I just don't want to speak to your, umm, fullness of time.
atablarasa, deeply unserious




GravatarAdam,

Michigan is falling apart. The cops just don't fucking care.


GravatarWhen does it become camp camp?
AndyG


When they get their first feather boa?


Gravatarschlepping heaving trays to small tables.


These are trays for heaving? That's pretty bad work alright! And how does a small table hurl?


GravatarRaising teenagers *is* improv camp

Oh HELL yes!


Gravatar"First round's on me btw."

sorry - my kids distracted me

ok

I drink cheap - ever since I got into an argument with the bartender who told me the 4 buck price did not apply to the wine i was drinking


GravatarI read Stephenson's first -- it was pretty clever -- nothing since, though


You mean Snow Crash? If you liked that at all, then you must read Anathem. He has matured wonderfully as a writer since then, and it's all about some seriously kick-ass monks to boot. Moonbo always puts the term Avout after her nym now because she liked it so much.


GravatarWhen they get their first feather boa?

I was thinking assless leather chaps, but, that's me.


GravatarMichigan is falling apart. The cops just don't fucking care.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


I thought one of the very worst things about Katrina was when the cops deserted their posts.

Sorry dudes, that's what we pay you for. Not for when things are easy, but for when things are HARD.

But NO is world-famous for a totally corrupt police force. I'm really sorry to hear the same is true in Michigan.


GravatarI love Judi Dench. That is all.

Played Elizabeth perfectly, so yeah, love.


GravatarIf it's saturday night, it's Geraldo at Large.


GravatarWhen does it become camp camp?
AndyG

When they get their first feather boa?


Slow to respond, I was... And thereby saved from buying a coke. But have one anyway!


GravatarOne good thing, for me at least, I'm connected enough at the grassroots level of local politics that if I bitch to the commissioner or the mayor, they'll listen, at least, and get back to me.

One good reason to go at it at a grassroots level, guys.

Where I fail is at the state level. Well, I know the state rep -- he was Speaker Pro Tempre of the MI House -- but I'm not connected with anyone else. The Michigan legislature sucks; Barndog and chidyke and DWD will back me up on this.


GravatarActually -- not the first -- Cryptonomicon -- think I will pre-order the mass market pb ...


GravatarMichigan is falling apart. The cops just don't fucking care.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore

Agreed and it will continue to do so as these fucking rich people STILL think they pay too much in taxes.

I just cannot figure how they cannot add 1 and 1 to get 2.

Fucking assholes.


Gravatar57 shortly.

atablarasa, deeply unserious l


A lot of that goin' around!
.


GravatarIf it's saturday night, it's Geraldo at Large.
FoX


Only because there isn't a cage large enough for his fucking ego.


GravatarI was thinking assless leather chaps, but, that's me.
Barndog




I want to hear the Bliss stories!


GravatarThe Michigan legislature sucks; Barndog and chidyke and DWD will back me up on this.

Liars, thieves, and fools.


GravatarIf it's saturday night, it's Geraldo at Large.

Is that show still on? Is he still bragging about playing tambourine in the Plastic Ono Band?


GravatarI want to hear the Bliss stories!

What happens at Bliss - stays at Bliss.


Gravatar57 shortly.

atablarasa, deeply unserious l

A lot of that goin' around!


That's, what, about 17 in Simels years?


GravatarCryptonomicon

A very good book too if you ask me, but I imagine you would like Anathem better.


GravatarThe Michigan legislature sucks; Barndog and chidyke and DWD will back me up on this.

Liars, thieves, and fools.
DWD-Sordid


And Granholm? How is she?


GravatarLiars, thieves, and fools.

And, that's just the office staff...


GravatarBut have one anyway!
atablarasa


Thanks. Can I make it a beer, instead? My house is dry tonight, but for candy.


GravatarI was thinking assless leather chaps, but, that's me.
Barndog

I want to hear the Bliss stories!


I want to hear the assless chaps stories. But that's probably just me.


GravatarAnd Granholm? How is she?

Just about as fucking bad.


GravatarDavid Gemmell (RIP) had some insightful monk stuff in his fantasy novels


GravatarBut if you're right, you might've busted this case open and the rest of the fucking world will apologize for not recognizing the coup.

This is a perfectly clueless observation. You're like Pauline Kael not understanding how Nixon could've won re-election.


So you still can't cite a fucking thing. And the entire world condemns the coup.

Gotcha.


GravatarAdam Hominem, thread killa

Far too willing to try and compromise with those who never will.

I WISH she would show a bit more leadership in the fight for equitable taxes and such.

She is trying but it is an almost "undoable" job.


GravatarWhat happens at Bliss - stays at Bliss.
Barndog




I wish I had been there.


GravatarJust about as fucking bad.
Barndog, Blissed


God.

At least our lege is ok, and I heard Walter Mondale on MPR the other day say that Pawlenty is abusing the unallotment authority, and the Courts should hear about it.

Let it be so.


GravatarAdam Hominem,

The unhappiness about shit NOT getting done around here is really bothering people. This does not speak well for incumbents.


GravatarGranholm walked into a nightmare, afaic.

Heap NAFTA/CAFTA onto the mess in Michigan made by Engler, and you have a recipe for failure.


GravatarI wish I had been there.

I can guarantee you would have been very drunk and/or stoned.


GravatarHow does one arrive at the twisted mentality of Tobes? He puts words together in a grammatical way, and yet he somehow manages never to say anything that makes sense.


GravatarI helped support the Michigan economy today by buying a six-pack of Bell's Two Hearted. No need to thank me.


GravatarBliss wrote some good sci-fi -- there was one about a Peruvian Jesuit in outer space who was told by the Norwegian pope to condemn the space aliens or be condemned as a Manichean (really!)


GravatarSo you still can't cite a fucking thing. And the entire world condemns the coup.

Gotcha.
NTodd, Wise Latina


Toby's inability to separate reality from what is going on in his head, or is on Fox, is worrying.


GravatarPrickstein, if you're a Latin American country with a history of military and/or electoral coups destabilizing you from within, what is the one thing that you would insist on including in your constitution?

When the Hondurans thought abt that problem for themselves, they said "term limits." Among other things.

Zelaya illegally attempted to circumvent that limitation by trying to conduct a referendum explicitly banned in the Honduran constitution.

Therefore, he is a traitor and you are a hack for following Obama on this.


GravatarI have Bliss secrets, but I swore on Chidyke's sword that I would not spill.


Gravatarneed to start spreading the money around. Come on, obama, it's really not all that complicated. Throw it out there.


GravatarI helped support the Michigan economy today by buying a six-pack of Bell's Two Hearted. No need to thank me.

I will thank you on behalf of Bell's beer drinkers everywhere.


GravatarSnow Crash is great, Crypto is my favorite (also helpful as a boat anchor).


GravatarI can guarantee you would have been very drunk and/or stoned.
Barndog




GravatarThis does not speak well for incumbents.
DWD-Sordid


Sorry to say but unfortunately there is no situation that cannot be made worse.


GravatarI can guarantee you would have been very drunk and/or stoned.
Barndog, Blissed




You might have spilled Gumbo on your skirt, or Feral Liberal's groovy wine on your supple bosom.


Gravatar"Assless chaps." That's one name I could never apply to you fellows.


GravatarI will thank you on behalf of Bell's beer drinkers everywhere.
Barndog


Except, apparently, my town. We can't get it here.


GravatarSo I met a guy who's got a coffee roasting business today.

Here's a page from his website analyzing costs and profits in the coffee biz.

No wonder Starbucks is making a fucking fortune! I'm in the wrong biz...


GravatarTherefore, he is a traitor and you are a hack for following Obama on this.

Assertions are almost as compelling as citations.


GravatarWhen the Hondurans thought abt that problem for themselves, they said "term limits." Among other things.


GravatarAndyG -- a little too much hops -- OTOH, Shock Top could use a little bit more -- Arcadia Porter & Founder's Imperial Stout are about perfect, however


GravatarI always thought The Assless Chaps would be a great name for a British boy band.


GravatarI bought some Samuel Adams double bock a couple nights ago and I'm thinking abt cracking one open.

Almost ten percent by volume. Dayum.


GravatarAgreed and it will continue to do so as these fucking rich people STILL think they pay too much in taxes.

I just cannot figure how they cannot add 1 and 1 to get 2.


They have no concept of such things.

One of the things I learned early was that *everything* is designed to keep the poor poorer. The concept of taking advantage of pre- and post-season sales to stock up, for instance. The poor can't afford this so they get to buy when they have to. And that's usually at the height of the expensive time.

Buy a trailer instead of a McMansion and pay three times the interest rate on it.

Buy stuff on credit because the refrigerator can't wait to the next paycheck and you'll pay more for the appliance plus the interest and maybe some penalties and a loan fee...

And so on.

And the rich cannot understand that.


GravatarYou might have spilled Gumbo on your skirt, or Feral Liberal's groovy wine on your supple bosom.
Vicki


Oh! Another thing I missed: Feral's pear wine


Gravatari'll try again:

When the Hondurans thought abt that problem for themselves, they said "term limits." Among other things.

They remembered "term limts" but forgot "no coups"?


GravatarBell's limited edition Cherry Ale was awesome


Gravatarneed to start spreading the money around. Come on, obama, it's really not all that complicated. Throw it out there.
Little Boots


Earlier today someone mentioned the slow and failing pace of Obama's efforts to help homeowner's keep their homes.

The problem is that while Obama's efforts on behalf of better and fairer mortgages is laudable, the problem will remain because someone is going to have to take a hit for the fact that many homes are not worth any longer what they are mortgaged for. And the banks are determined that the one to take the hit will not be them. As long as they are allowed to take that position, nothing will change.


GravatarI always thought The Assless Chaps would be a great name for a British boy band.
Toonscribe


Yes!


GravatarI love Sam Adams, the beer and the revolutionary terrorist.


GravatarPrior A,

I'm big on hops, so this is the ideal stuff for me. 10000x better on tap, of course.


GravatarThe Defense secretary says forces must show progress in a year or risk losing public support, especially as casualties mount, with at least 50 U.S. and NATO deaths in July, the deadliest month yet.
By Julian E. Barnes

4:47 PM PDT, July 18, 2009

Reporting from Washington — After eight years, U.S.-led forces must show progress in Afghanistan by next summer to avoid public perception that the conflict has become unwinnable, Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates said in a sharp critique of the war effort.

Gates said that victory was a "long-term prospect" under any scenario and that the U.S. would not win the war in a year's time. However, U.S. forces must begin to turn the situation around in a year, he said, or face the likely loss of public support.


..........So there ya have it-He's afraid the American people will get tired of war.Has anyone checked his vital signs recently?


GravatarNo wonder Starbucks is making a fucking fortune! I'm in the wrong biz...
dave™©


The sad fact is, I cannot make a decent latte. Until that is rectified, I will be a slave to Starbucks.


GravatarPrior - make note around Mardi Gras to try the Consecrator Dobbelbock from Bell's. That, and Hopslam.


GravatarEverything is better on tap -- keg conditioned if possible


GravatarPrior, I haven't read Bliss in a long time, but I have the Cities in Flight books around here somewhere...

A decent science fiction writer, and that's too rare these days.


GravatarBel's Hell Hath No Fury is also excellent


GravatarIs it possible to have athletes foot up to your knees? Because I am damn itchy...


GravatarBel's Hell Hath No Fury is also excellent

A fine brew, I must say.

Alas, I am a true Oberon fan.


GravatarI really don;'t see how this thing in Honduras is of any major significance. It looks to me like both side stepped over the line, and that both sides can be reined in if the hemispheric community just reminds everyone of the importance of the rule of law and gives them a forum of negotiation in which they can all climb down. Thank FSM we have a president here now who will facilitate rather than stand in the way of that outcome.


GravatarI always thought The Assless Chaps would be a great name for a British boy band.
Toonscribe


The Chaps Dicks...


GravatarEverything is better on tap -- keg conditioned if possible
Prior Aelred


Most (?) 'construction guys' I've observed seem to prefer bottled beer even if the same beer is on tap.
.


GravatarThey remembered "term limts" but forgot "no coups"?

It's interesting that Toby says Hondurans are concerned about military coups, so they would clearly support a military coup.

Too bad the UN, OAS, and EU aren't so smart as Toby.


GravatarMaybe I'll go take a shower. Looks like my work as thread killa here is almost done, anyway.


GravatarBell's Squash Ale ... not so much


GravatarAren't monks supposed to make and drink their own beer? I thought that was in the rules.


GravatarBell's Squash Ale ... not so much

Can't say I've had that one.

Probably a good thing.


GravatarThe sad fact is, I cannot make a decent latte.

From what I understand, the equipment is key. The standard consumer "espresso" machines that cost under $200 or so at Macy's don't generate the right amount of pressure to really foam the milk.

I'm a cheap bastard, and I usually disagree with this sort of assessment, but from my limited research on the subject, you really DO have to spend for one of the high-priced machines if you want to make decent lattes at home.


GravatarI really don;'t see how this thing in Honduras is of any major significance. It looks to me like both side stepped over the line, and that both sides can be reined in if the hemispheric community just reminds everyone of the importance of the rule of law and gives them a forum of negotiation in which they can all climb down. Thank FSM we have a president here now who will facilitate rather than stand in the way of that outcome.

For us, no big deal. For the rest of Central America, I think it's more: Is this going to be the norm again? Is it all about the generals, or bitter colonels, once more?


GravatarI used to like those high-test, chewy ales, I even brewed a couple, but now I'm a pilsener man.


GravatarThey drink for style rather than taste (IMHO) -- any good beer taste is better if it is NOT ice cold & your get the aroma (& more taste) from a glass


GravatarOh, I think there are things that can be done: How about moving the Redstone Arsenal and all of the attendant engineering positions AA?

You think Jeff SayShuns would like that? You think he would fucking bitch about the car companies?

How about closing the Air Force Base at San Antonio and locating that son of a bitch in Mt Pleasant?

You think Kay Baily Whore would like that one?

Seriously, I am sick to death of being the fucking whipping boy of the Federal Subsidized states and a certain district in this country.


GravatarVicki no likey brewskis.

But I LOVE Feral's wine.

Best red wine I've ever had. His cranberry is to die for.

Aside from that, he's an awesome individual. Great kisser (in a benign way, don't think dirty), great hugger, great lover of people.


GravatarFrom what I understand, the equipment is key.
dave™©


That is the conclusion I have come to as well.


GravatarI believe I am well medicated for a good nites sleep.

Toodles, and have a pleasant night.


GravatarDWD,

This state lost a lot of military bases under Reagan.

I had a certain fondness for KI Sawyer and a sweet flyboy back when I was in school in Marquette, but I digress.


GravatarFrom what I understand, the equipment is key.


Odd. My wife says that it's not just the equipment but what I do with it...


GravatarSeriously, I am sick to death of being the fucking whipping boy of the Federal Subsidized states and a certain district in this country.
DWD-Sordid


I am intrigued by your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.


GravatarBr Cuthbert brews -- but we have to contrast & compare ...


GravatarBut I LOVE Feral's wine.

It's great stuff.


GravatarConstitutionally, the Honduran military is assigned the task of administering referenda and (I think) the elections themselves. They have the logistical ability to do this, so they are charged to do so by their constitution.

Zelaya was trying to get the military to permit a referendum. The top brass there wouldn't do it.


GravatarBrother Cuthbert is cute, in a David Gregory sort of way.

Or is that the silent brother?


GravatarOdd. My wife says that it's not just the equipment but what I do with it...
atablarasa, deeply unserious


Atablarasa's wife: I was so satisfied last night!

Atablarasa: But I didn't touch you, last night!

Atablarasa's wife: I was satisfied.



GravatarFor us, no big deal. For the rest of Central America, I think it's more: Is this going to be the norm again? Is it all about the generals, or bitter colonels, once more?
Little Boots


I'm sure it brings all of that back for them, and yet it seems to me that they themselves will succeed in making sure it does not come to that. Latin America has made sich great strides towards democracy in recent years, mostly no thanks to us.


GravatarBr Cuthbert brews -- but we have to contrast & compare ...


Solid methodology, sir!


GravatarAnd why am I thinking monks are cute?

Monks are holy, they are beyond cute.


GravatarMy wife says that it's not just the equipment but what I do with it...

As long as the milk foams...


GravatarAdam Hominem, thread killa,

I was reading of a base in Washington state that was expanding: it was expected to provide 3000 civilian jobs with 35000 troops stationed there and 7000 contractors: can you imagine what a base like that would mean to Western Michigan?

(How about knocking our unemployment in half or better: thousands of struggling businesses getting strong, lots of new growth and industries.)


GravatarAnd why am I thinking monks are cute?

The gals all went ga-ga over Davy Jones.

Oh wait - I thought you said MONKEES!


GravatarJenny has a crush on Feral Liberal. She thinks he looks like Graham Nash, for starters.

I have a crush, too, but I respect his wife too much.


GravatarOw, Adam!


GravatarI am intrigued by your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Not entirely sure why, but that made me lol.


GravatarI'm sure it brings all of that back for them, and yet it seems to me that they themselves will succeed in making sure it does not come to that.
slartibartfast


As has been repeatedly proved, the military is seemingly universally unable to run a country. They always fail. Always.


GravatarI think you're right slartibartfast. As with Iran, Obama has the exact right instincts here.


GravatarConstitutionally, the Honduran military is assigned the task of administering referenda and (I think) the elections themselves. They have the logistical ability to do this, so they are charged to do so by their constitution.

Where's it say that?

Zelaya was trying to get the military to permit a referendum. The top brass there wouldn't do it.

And you know that the President was made C-in-C of the military in 1999, right? So you're cool with civilian control being overthrown?

And what do you think Honduran opinion is about this crisis?


GravatarI'm fading...

Good night...


GravatarI was reading of a base in Washington state that was expanding: it was expected to provide 3000 civilian jobs with 35000 troops stationed there and 7000 contractors: can you imagine what a base like that would mean to Western Michigan?

(How about knocking our unemployment in half or better: thousands of struggling businesses getting strong, lots of new growth and industries.)
DWD-Sordid


Certainy someone needs to invest in Michigan. Why not the Federal Government?


GravatarWhere's it say that?

In Toby's haid, that's where. And that's the only place, I'd wager.


GravatarI'm fading...

Good night...


Use more green paint!

G'night!


GravatarVicki -- I think you might be thinking of Br Martin (whom you met in church) but maybe an earlier visit where you did meet Br Cuthbert (in the refectory)


GravatarOw, Adam!
atablarasa, deeply unserious


It was a card my wife gave me, once.

My ex-wife.



GravatarObama is fighting for health care, and for that, I give him credit.

If he passes a health care bill, my healthy skepticism will cease. I'll be in his court. But he has to do three more things:

1.) End the fucking war
2.) Focus on environmental conservation
3.) Give gays equal rights

I also want a national public college/university program, either free or low cost.

Shoot me. I'm a socialist.


GravatarI should have said, if he passes a health care bill with a healthy public option...

That is what I meant to say.


GravatarCertainy someone needs to invest in Michigan. Why not the Federal Government?
Adam Hominem, thread killa

IMHO, the government caused this crisis with their damned stoopit trade policies and the blessing of moving all manufacturing overseas: they OWE us big time.


GravatarBr Martin (whom you met in church) but maybe an earlier visit where you did meet Br Cuthbert (in the refectory)
Prior Aelred


Just out of curiosity, do you live in a monastery, or a in a game of Clue?


GravatarGoing out to watch the Space Station/Shuttle stack flyover. Should be a bit brighter than usual.
Back in a bit.
.


GravatarVicki -- I think you might be thinking of Br Martin (whom you met in church) but maybe an earlier visit where you did meet Br Cuthbert (in the refectory)

It was Br Cuthbert in the refectory with a keg tap!


GravatarI'm curious under what article the Honduran Supreme Court can issue a secret order to detain the duly-elected President and deport a Honduran citizen, violating Article 102.


GravatarIMHO, the government caused this crisis with their damned stoopit trade policies and the blessing of moving all manufacturing overseas: they OWE us big time.
DWD-Sordid


I agree, and I also think it's high time we instituted a policy of making the product of a company that has moved offshore illegal to sell in the region where they moved from.


GravatarIf he passes a health care bill, my healthy skepticism will cease. I'll be in his court. But he has to do three more things:

Me too, and hey ... new thread!


GravatarIt was Br Cuthbert in the refectory with a keg tap!
atablarasa, deeply unserious


Not sure, but I think you owe me a brewski.


GravatarI think you're right, Prior. I think the David Gregory-loking monk is Br. Martin.

Br. Cuthbert is taller, with a beard, and he's very young, and cute, correct?


GravatarI'm gonna go watch the evening news. Good night.


GravatarFor my part, I think that O is running close to the optimal administration wrt to achieving real, lasting social progress in this country. I may end up being bitterly disappointed in that, but I think probably not.


GravatarAdam, I think that's a foamy beverage to you...


GravatarBr Cuthbert is tall & young but shaved his beard since last you saw him -- Br Martin looks about half his real age (partly it is the early Beatles haircut ...)


GravatarISS/Shuttle stack, on time across northern sky as promised. $100 billion and all I get is a bright dot moving across the sky.
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GravatarI'm kinda with slarti, a little worried, but still pretty impressed. And health care reform will wash away all the tears.


GravatarISS/Shuttle stack, on time across northern sky as promised. $100 billion and all I get is a bright dot moving across the sky.

Shit man, I've seen that a coupla times and it's still cool, even if just a dot.

You got binocs, or doing naked eye?

Ever seen an Iridium sat?


GravatarI guess Tobes will get back to us on those articles. I won't bother posting any of them myself--yup, I have the Constitution in English--because he needs to show his work.

And it will be wrong.


GravatarLeonard Cohen S_H_E_E_T_S.


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