There are some serious CIA/NSA droids monitoring this thread. 83?
Peeps, Carbonite Neutral |
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06.09.07 - 5:19 pm | #
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Lumpenprolitariot: I assume just scootin' to work and back. But it was decidedly weird riding by a house and seeing a bunch of good old boys standing around admiring a friends new motor scooter.
Heh! I love it. But really... with the gas mileage, and the fun factor, expect to see many more of them.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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06.09.07 - 5:20 pm | #
Liddy Dole, drunk on the floor of a bar in Anacostia, asleep in her own vomit.
bebe rebozo |
06.09.07 - 5:20 pm | #
I feel like Paris Hilton, drunk, and careening into a lake of rum.
Are you sure you're not feeling like Lindsey Lohan, drunk, and careening into a lake of rum?
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06.09.07 - 5:20 pm | #
Celebrity Clue!
O.J., in the Courtyard, with the knife.
Bush, in Iraq, with and to the U.S. military.
Flint,Wossamata U. Alum. |
06.09.07 - 5:20 pm | #
I made the completely idiotic mistake of misspelling my name in my email address, hence, no gravatar. I've fixed it, as you can see.
Dick Cheney before he dicks you.
trifecta |
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06.09.07 - 5:21 pm | #
There are some serious CIA/NSA droids monitoring this thread. 83?
At least two overseas commenters, that makes them automatically suspicious.
Marcellina |
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06.09.07 - 5:21 pm | #
Okay, I did it.
I just asked Sen. Nelson why he voted against the Whitehouse/Feinstein anti-torture proposal.
I'll post the answer on my blog. I don't agree with him, but at least I asked him and he answered.
Sinfonian, protojournalist |
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06.09.07 - 5:21 pm | #
For that matter, Pickles, in Texas, with car keys!
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
06.09.07 - 5:22 pm | #
I'll post the answer on my blog. I don't agree with him, but at least I asked him and he answered.
Sinfonian, protojournalis
Well you rock.
Tena |
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06.09.07 - 5:22 pm | #
At least two overseas commenters, that makes them automatically suspicious.
Marcellina
May we see your papers please?
Flint,Wossamata U. Alum. |
06.09.07 - 5:22 pm | #
Sinfonian: I'll post the answer on my blog. I don't agree with him, but at least I asked him and he answered.
Look at you! Mr. Intrepid Reporter Guy!
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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06.09.07 - 5:22 pm | #
Sinfonian-
Can you ask Senator Nelson whether he had anything to do with the dead intern in Joe Scarborough's office?
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06.09.07 - 5:23 pm | #
I feel like Paris Hilton, drunk, and careening into a lake of rum.
Are you sure you're not feeling like Lindsey Lohan, drunk, and careening into a lake of rum?
No, I said rum.
Peeps, Carbonite Neutral |
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06.09.07 - 5:23 pm | #
Heh! I love it. But really... with the gas mileage, and the fun factor, expect to see many more of them.
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Jeffraham Prestonian
Little towns like this really got hurt by the gas prices. Most jobs here just don't pay that much.
Lumpenprolitariot |
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06.09.07 - 5:23 pm | #
Look at you! Mr. Intrepid Reporter Guy!
Just being Mr. Law-Talking Guy was so constraining.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
06.09.07 - 5:23 pm | #
Sinfonian-
Can you ask Senator Nelson whether he had anything to do with the dead intern in Joe Scarborough's office?
spinoza
"The following article is by Daniel J. Callahn and Marc P. Miles, the lawyers representing the families of four American contractors who worked for Blackwater and were killed in Fallujah. After Blackwater refused to share information about why they were killed, the families were told they would have to sue Blackwater to find out. Now Blackwater is trying to sue them for $10 million to keep them quiet. This article was first posted on AlterNet.org’s website.
The families of four American security contractors who were burned, beaten, dragged through the streets of Fallujah and their decapitated bodies hung from a bridge over the Euphrates River on March 31, 2004, are reaching out to the American public to help protect themselves against the very company their loved ones were serving when killed, Blackwater Security Consulting. After Blackwater lost a series of appeals all the away to the U.S. Supreme Court, Blackwater has now changed its tactics and is suing the dead men’s estates for $10 million to silence the families and keep them out of court."
am in a great mood!
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06.09.07 - 5:25 pm | #
Lumpenprolitariot: Little towns like this really got hurt by the gas prices. Most jobs here just don't pay that much.
Yeah, and when you have an old beater of a truck that has a V-8... yep. Scooters rawk.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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06.09.07 - 5:25 pm | #
Dick Cheney before he dicks you.
trifecta
Heh.
Sometime in the next few days I need to pick your brain about where to stay in your town. Let me know when it's cool.
V for Virginia |
06.09.07 - 5:25 pm | #
Pfui, torpedoed by Atrios's thread throwing..
Reprise:
Yes, carriers of the sickle-cell trait have superior malaria resistance. It's just when you inherit a doubled dose tha t you get the anemia.
Similar links have been forund for other genetic diseases - for example, the most common European-heritage generic disease, cystic fibrosis, appears in the partial form to increase survival of cholera by decreasing fluid losses to the disease. Similarly, Tay-Sachs carrying amongst Ashkenazi Jews seems to help agains tuberculosis.
that's another thing to make humans reconsider genetic engineering. You may not know what you think you do about the 'weaknesses' you want to eradicate........
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Cynicus |
06.09.07 - 5:25 pm | #
If one can afford to live in Western Marin County, it's HIGHLY worth it. Tomales Bay Oysters, Point Reyes, Bodega Bay, Bolinas.....
plantsman, bemused |
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06.09.07 - 5:25 pm | #
I remember you saying something about waiting for your grades to be posted. Were they, or are you still waiting?
Marcellina |
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06.09.07 - 5:26 pm | #
BAGHDAD (AP) - A suspected al-Qaida suicide bomber rammed a speeding gasoline truck into an Iraqi army checkpoint outside the capital on Saturday, killing at least 14 soldiers as militants hammered the country's shaky security forces.
The terror campaign against Iraqi troops and police appears designed to blunt U.S. progress in creating a stable local force so the Americans can go home. U.S. military officers began noticing the new pattern of attacks last month.
The focus on Iraqi forces was detailed to Maj. Gen. Joseph F. Fil Jr., commander of the 1st Cavalry Division which runs the nearly four-month-old security operation in Baghdad, during a recent visit to the capital's Karradah district.
I remember you saying something about waiting for your grades to be posted. Were they, or are you still waiting?
Marcellina | Homepage | 06.09.07 - 5:26 pm | #
am still waiting alas
Moonbootica, Graduee |
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06.09.07 - 5:27 pm | #
"Six die in attack on U.S.-run Camp Bucca prison
CNN - 2007-06-10
Six dead in attack on Iraq prison
BBC News - 2007-06-10
Security developments in Iraq, June 8
Reuters - 2007-06-10
Car bombs kill 15 in southern Iraq town
Reuters - 2007-06-10
Car bomb near Iraq mosque kills 10 -police
Reuters - 2007-06-10
Marine Testifies He Was Ordered to Destroy Photos of Civilian Killings in Haditha, Iraq
Fox News - 2007-06-10" http://www.whodieswhopayswhoprofits.com/
pigboy |
06.09.07 - 5:27 pm | #
that's another thing to make humans reconsider genetic engineering. You may not know what you think you do about the 'weaknesses' you want to eradicate........
Yup. The rule of unintended consequences is in full play.
This is complicated stuff.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
06.09.07 - 5:27 pm | #
My mood is also improved. Just knowing that my transportation situation is going to be resolved THIS WEEK is such a relief.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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06.09.07 - 5:28 pm | #
Paris Hilton's theme song...
In the Big Rock Candy Mountains,
The jails are made of tin.
And you can walk right out again,
As soon as you are in.
There ain't no short-handled shovels,
No axes, saws nor picks,
I'm bound to stay
Where you sleep all day,
Where they hung the jerk
That invented work
In the Big Rock Candy Mountains.
catalexis (ungrateful peasent) |
06.09.07 - 5:28 pm | #
pigboy
It's only bad if we notice it.
V for Virginia |
06.09.07 - 5:28 pm | #
Blackwater has now changed its tactics and is suing the dead men’s estates for $10 million to silence the families and keep them out of court."
Scooter, Paris, Bork, Blackwater.
They're going all-out to show us that there's a 'rich' and a 'poor' legal system, huh?
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Cynicus |
06.09.07 - 5:28 pm | #
God I hate I posted that below that horrifying comment about Iraq.
Tena |
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06.09.07 - 5:28 pm | #
Oh, brother, am I tired of this one. Libby wasn't charged with the crime of knowingly leaking classified information about Plame; he was charged with lying to investigators. But the overwhelming weight of the evidence at the trial -- including reporters' notes of their interviews with Libby -- showed that Libby had indeed leaked classified information about Plame's identity, even though that wasn't what put him in the dock.
Sen. Nelson explained that the proposal would have limited the CIA to only the interrogation techniques prescribed by the Army Field Manual. However, said the Senator, the manual is designed to assist "20-year-old soldiers in the field" with on-the-spot interrogation, and he was unwilling (he said rather emphatically) to limit the CIA to such procedures. "It has nothing to do with torture," he said, "and everything to do with securing information."
Sinfonian, protojournalist |
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06.09.07 - 5:28 pm | #
I'll post the answer on my blog.
/taps toe
Still waiting.
Nice photos of Sen Nelson and the divine Pelosi, though...
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
06.09.07 - 5:29 pm | #
Time to go on a beer run.
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06.09.07 - 5:29 pm | #
"The terror campaign against Iraqi troops and police appears designed to blunt U.S. progress in creating a stable local force so the Americans can go home. U.S. military officers began noticing the new pattern of attacks last month."
Jeebus crist on a stich.... what a bunch of crap...... what a lie. New pattern my ass...
pigboy |
06.09.07 - 5:29 pm | #
...Which argues for natural selection, when you think about it - and intermarriage!
plantsman, bemused |
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06.09.07 - 5:30 pm | #
"It has everything to do with torture," he said, "and nothing to do with securing information."
Fixed Sen. Nelson's quote.
V for Virginia |
06.09.07 - 5:30 pm | #
Sen. Nelson explained that the proposal would have limited the CIA to only the interrogation techniques prescribed by the Army Field Manual. However, said the Senator, the manual is designed to assist "20-year-old soldiers in the field" with on-the-spot interrogation, and he was unwilling (he said rather emphatically) to limit the CIA to such procedures. "It has nothing to do with torture," he said, "and everything to do with securing information."
Ummkay.
How about he come up with wording that will explicitly ban torture, and specifically include water boarding as torture?
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
06.09.07 - 5:30 pm | #
It all boils down to this - If Plame WASN'T covert, why was there a special prosecutor assigned by the DOJ to investigate who outed her ?
Gilly Gonzylon |
06.09.07 - 5:31 pm | #
Unfortunately, it wasn't an interview, it was a quick question in line at a snack bar, so I didn't feel like I ought to press the issue too much ...
Sinfonian, protojournalist |
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06.09.07 - 5:32 pm | #
It's only bad if we notice it.
V for Virginia | 06.09.07 - 5:28 pm | #
I will have to stop paying attention then..... so many already do.
pigboy |
06.09.07 - 5:32 pm | #
Did you know that our friends in the Gestapo came up with the term "enhanced enterrogation" in 1937?
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
06.09.07 - 5:32 pm | #
...Which argues for natural selection, when you think about it - and intermarriage!
plantsman
Well yeah - and really, what doesn't?
Tena |
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06.09.07 - 5:32 pm | #
"It has everything to do with torture," he said, "and nothing to do with securing information."
i would replace 'torture' in this sentence with "safeguarding our asses against charges".
but that's just me.
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06.09.07 - 5:33 pm | #
Peter Hain has been accused by John Reid, the Home Secretary, of protesting over planned new anti-terror powers in an attempt to boost his deputy leadership bid.
The extraordinary break-down in cabinet discipline has been exposed in a leaked letter of complaint from Mr Reid to Tony Blair. A newspaper had reported that Mr Hain, the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland, had told other ministers he was worried about plans to give police the authority to stop and question anyone.
Nothing. Nothing at all.
plantsman, bemused |
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06.09.07 - 5:34 pm | #
Oh, brother, am I tired of this one. Libby wasn't charged with the crime of knowingly leaking classified information about Plame; he was charged with lying to investigators.
Fitzpatrick made this crystal-fucking-clear when he indicted the sack of shit, yet the defenders of this serial liar have been pushing this canard ever since that day.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
06.09.07 - 5:34 pm | #
Bill Nelson: put Alito on the Court, voted for the Credit Card companies against consumers, proud of his vote to put Roberts on the Court, and of course, has voted FOR Chimpy's War at every possible opportunity.
calling him a dupe and a lackey for the most reactionary political forces in Florida is an insult to dupes and lackeys everywhere.
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari |
06.09.07 - 5:34 pm | #
Well, you know, at least I asked. I wasn't sure I had the balls, but apparently I do.
Sinfonian, protojournalist |
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06.09.07 - 5:34 pm | #
I doubt Augs falls under that insult.
plantsman, bemused |
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06.09.07 - 5:35 pm | #
Well, you know, at least I asked. I wasn't sure I had the balls, but apparently I do.
I'm glad you asked, Sinfonian. It is difficult to be confrontational with someone like that, no question.
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06.09.07 - 5:36 pm | #
Bill Nelson: put Alito on the Court, voted for the Credit Card companies against consumers, proud of his vote to put Roberts on the Court, and of course, has voted FOR Chimpy's War at every possible opportunity.
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari
I agree. The reason I asked only about the torture vote was because he was the only Dem who voted as he did, along with all Republics.
I can't single him out in the votes you cite, although indeed those were just as heinous.
Sinfonian, protojournalist |
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06.09.07 - 5:36 pm | #
Fitzpatrick made this crystal-fucking-clear when he indicted the sack of shit, yet the defenders of this serial liar have been pushing this canard ever since that day.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
Yeah, and I don't know what Digby is on about - Fitzgerald is so detail-obsessed that if an appellate lawyer can get one thin sliver into the case, I'll be very surprised.
Tena |
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06.09.07 - 5:37 pm | #
fuck Bill Nelson
and the corrupt, environmentally destructive, out of control developers he rode in on.
this fucking clown had a 20 point lead over Sugartits Harris and he moved to the Right. asshat fucking putz.
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari |
06.09.07 - 5:37 pm | #
I'm glad you asked, Sinfonian. It is difficult to be confrontational with someone like that, no question.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
Oh, I was very polite and business-like.
Besides, if it all went to shit, I'd have just yelled at him, "Jeopardy!, bitch!"
Sinfonian, protojournalist |
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06.09.07 - 5:37 pm | #
Well, you know, at least I asked. I wasn't sure I had the balls, but apparently I do.
Sinfonian, protojournalist
Not criticizing you at all, Sinf -- great job. Just harping on Sen. Nelson.
V for Virginia |
06.09.07 - 5:38 pm | #
Very good job, Sinf; massive Stones!
plantsman, bemused |
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06.09.07 - 5:38 pm | #
Oh, brother, am I tired of this one. Libby wasn't charged with the crime of knowingly leaking classified information about Plame; he was charged with lying to investigators.
Fitzpatrick made this crystal-fucking-clear when he indicted the sack of shit, yet the defenders of this serial liar have been pushing this canard ever since that day.
And hey, we're back from commercials here on WDC, and here's a golden oldie from the 90's : "We're Not Prosecuting For a Blowjob, We're Prosecuting About LYING About a Blowjob". Take it away, Newt.....
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Cynicus |
06.09.07 - 5:38 pm | #
I've said it before and I'll say it again: The only good thing about him is that he could be replaced by someone much, much worse.
Well, maybe not that much worse.
V for Virginia |
06.09.07 - 5:39 pm | #
Well, you know, at least I asked. I wasn't sure I had the balls, but apparently I do.
Sinfonian, protojournalist
You did good. You did very good. Most wouldn't have asked.
pigboy |
06.09.07 - 5:39 pm | #
Appeals don't win very often.
Tena |
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06.09.07 - 5:39 pm | #
You did good. You did very good. Most wouldn't have asked.
pigboy
Actually, I was sitting with two other bloggers and I'd told them I wanted to ask him. I guess it was a bit of dick-swinging, but so what?
Sinfonian, protojournalist |
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06.09.07 - 5:40 pm | #
Sin,
if you get a chance, ask Pelosi (or really, anybody at the Jackson-Jefferson dinner) if she has any good ideas about who would make good primary challenger to Tim Mahoney (FL-16) and if Al Lawson would make a credible challenger to Alan Boyd (FL-2)?
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari |
06.09.07 - 5:41 pm | #
Well criminal appeals don't win very often. Courts are so loathe to overturn a jury's decision and the most that happens is a new trial - there's no fucking way in the world that there is an argument of insufficient evidence as a matter of law - and that's the only appellate ruling that would see his release.
That happens so fucking rarely I can almost say never.
Tena |
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06.09.07 - 5:41 pm | #
Appeals don't win very often.
i am made nervous about the Republicans referring to this not as an 'appeal' but as a "do-over".
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Cynicus |
06.09.07 - 5:41 pm | #
Sin,
if you get a chance, ask Pelosi (or really, anybody at the Jackson-Jefferson dinner) if she has any good ideas about who would make good primary challenger to Tim Mahoney (FL-16) and if Al Lawson would make a credible challenger to Alan Boyd (FL-2)?
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari
I'll see what I can do. There actually was some discussion at the luncheon today about primary challenges to Mahoney ... I know there's going to be some. (That was Foley's district, for the non-Wangers here, so it was nice to turn it blue ... but Mahoney has been a disappointment.)
Sinfonian, protojournalist |
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06.09.07 - 5:43 pm | #
Actually, I was sitting with two other bloggers and I'd told them I wanted to ask him. I guess it was a bit of dick-swinging, but so what?
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Well it worked and you got your feet...... ahem...... you know, wet....SWANG!
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06.09.07 - 5:44 pm | #
i am made nervous about the Republicans referring to this not as an 'appeal' but as a "do-over".
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Cynicus
Be nervous all you want.
It doesn't affect the outcome.
IF there's clear evidence that justice has been perverted somehow by a judge with an agenda, that's grounds for impeachment. Otherwise, you can worry but it doesn't matter - whatever will happen will happen. Sometimes it is all fucked up. But without evidence that a judge is crooked, everyone just has to buck up and swallow it because that's how our government is supposed to work. Sorry.
Tena |
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06.09.07 - 5:46 pm | #
Interesting!
"Police reject UK rendition claims
Prisoner at Guantanamo Bay
An inquiry has found no evidence that British airports were used by the CIA flying terrorist suspects for torture in other countries.
Atrios fans, here's a pretty cool project I’m working on that I think you would be great at. We all bitch about the media and the pundits from time to time. Here’s an invitation to sound off on an issue and one person who does will be chosen to host a “Henry Rollins Show” marathon on IFC (Independent Film Channel).
Rollins (former lead of Black Flag and The Rollins Band) is inviting anyone to tape a short video “rant” and the person who does the one he chooses will meet Henry and be put on the air in a MAJOR way on IFC.
Henry will choose someone who makes a 30-second video commentary on one of 11 hot topics, fly them to L.A., and have them host the upcoming “Rollins Show” Marathon on IFC.
Just go to ziddio.com/myrollinsrant and record and upload a 30-second video “rant” on one of the topics that Henry has selected (including abortion rights, has the Iraq war made us safer? Bush’s response to Hurricane Katrina, is America a dumb country? global warming, etc.)
All entries will be watched by, and the winner chosen solely by, Henry. He encourages anyone to enter, no matter their political persuasion - his only requirement: have “passion and attitude!”
Not a bad opportunity. And a chance to sound off on some of the issues we all care about.
Henry explains it all - and upload your “rant” - at ziddio.com/myrollinsrant
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06.09.07 - 10:35 pm | #
So it's a given that Bush can't be impeached. You succeed and things get worse geometrically. But why can't Cheney be impeached?
There isn't enough to space to list all the reasons--start with trying to establish his own branch of government--but there's an equally long list of enemies, starting with the Congressional Republicans holding onto their seats with the nail of both hands, the Bush loyalists who'd throw Laura to the wolves to protect Carlos II, the actual statesmen left in the GOP who remember what the Constitution says. And that's just his own party.
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