I mean, if you're the rule maker, who rules the rule maker?
Zap Rowsdower, aka Habeas |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:16 pm | #
Wow, a new thread!
David Derbes, ochen' pissed. |
04.18.08 - 11:16 pm | #
Rule 1: Don't talk about the rules.
ronjazz |
04.18.08 - 11:16 pm | #
35,000 at an Obama rally today.
Fuck you, that's my name, McCain
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:17 pm | #
Eli Pariser: Senator Clinton has her facts wrong again. MoveOn never opposed the war in Afghanistan, and we set the record straight years ago when Karl Rove made the same claim. Senator Clinton's attack on our members is divisive at a time when Democrats will soon need to unify to beat Senator McCain. MoveOn is 3.2 million reliable voters and volunteers who are an important part of any winning Democratic coalition in November. They deserve better than to be dismissed using Republican talking points. http://
tpmelectioncentral.talkin...tely_blaste.php
ErinPDX |
04.18.08 - 11:17 pm | #
/throws out Newsmax link about how Thers is sexy
Zap Rowsdower, aka Habeas |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:18 pm | #
I mean, if you're the rule maker, who rules the rule maker?
Like you're not married...
Thers |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:18 pm | #
GOOD LUCK WITH THAT
Bitter |
04.18.08 - 11:18 pm | #
i wwanted to go to the BHO rally. it was right outside meh borg.
euphronius |
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04.18.08 - 11:19 pm | #
How about no assumption that respectable commentators are "in the tank" for a candidate? Exhibit A: Paul Krugman. There seems to be a discounting of his columns on the assumption he's pro-Hillary.
P O'Neill |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:19 pm | #
I'm only guilty of sexyism.
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William H. Rehnquist |
04.18.08 - 11:19 pm | #
Fall 02, as a moveon volunteer i helped coordinate the presentation of 10,000 signatures to "let the inspections work" to Sen Smith, R, OR.
They had to have presented sigs to Sen. Clinton. Anybody know how that went?
ErinPDX |
04.18.08 - 11:19 pm | #
Well, after way too much vino, I'm off to bed. See y'all in four or five hours...
David Derbes, ochen' pissed. |
04.18.08 - 11:19 pm | #
No flirting?
Apple Ibook G4 for $399
This Apple iBook G4 1.0 GHz notebook is looking for a good home. Pre-installed components include an Apple G4 1.0 GHz processor, 512 MB of RAM, a 30 GB hard drive, and an Airport Wireless card! The Apple iBook notebook has Mac OS X pre-installed and a CD-ROM drive ready to access media.
DWD |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:19 pm | #
Heh. He forgot about flirting.
Gomez |
04.18.08 - 11:20 pm | #
Zap you were 100% right last night. ive seen the error of meh ways.
euphronius |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:20 pm | #
Rule #4: No :rocket:
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William H. Rehnquist |
04.18.08 - 11:21 pm | #
Your candidate sucks!
Ali, now a habs fan |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:21 pm | #
Jesus. If only the world were nothing but rainbows and flowers!! This "idea" is too stupid to be on Atrios's blog. People disagree. Often they disagree about what constitutes racism, sexism, and/or "bullshit". Good god. I'm sure you and I would be on the same side of most topics, I'm pretty far leftist, but this is just stupifyingly idiotic. How old are you, 13?
Terry |
04.18.08 - 11:21 pm | #
Rule #4: No :rocket:
BAN HIM!!!!
Jack K., the Grumpy Forester |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:22 pm | #
These rules are great until someone offers him bacon.
Joe Scabrosauras |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:22 pm | #
The first rule about Fight Club is you don't talk about Fight Club
Bitter |
04.18.08 - 11:22 pm | #
Who wrote the them to the Odd Couple?
maize |
04.18.08 - 11:22 pm | #
It's a start, Thers...but what about making frequent references to Herbert Croly? David Brooks said a couple years back that it'd help our cause.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:22 pm | #
Rule #69:
I couldn't think of one. I just wanted to claim rule 69.
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William H. Rehnquist |
04.18.08 - 11:23 pm | #
#5: Gotta say "fuck" a lot.
flory |
04.18.08 - 11:23 pm | #
Unless, of course, they're selling damaged copies as new,
I don't think they are doing that. I used to run a business from Montana, that about half was comprised of out of state shipping. I think I finally figured out how to get the packages to get to their destination without damage but this required me to ship as if the boxes were dropped out of orbit to the customer. The package handling standards for UPS and FedEx is that a package has to be able to withstand being dropped onto a concrete floor from about 6 feet, up to 20 times. This does not count the other damage that can occur due to lame-brained package handlers, doing things like stacking a load of steel on top of a package marked with the label, "fragile, contains glass and crystal".
Doug | 04.18.08 - 11:21 pm | #
Doug |
04.18.08 - 11:24 pm | #
"The first rule about Fight Club is you don't talk about Fight Club"
Then how does anyone know to join?
EkCenTriK |
04.18.08 - 11:24 pm | #
Like you're not married...
Thers
I like the fact that you accept the world as it should be.
flory |
04.18.08 - 11:24 pm | #
Then how does anyone know to join?
The glossy brochures.
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William H. Rehnquist |
04.18.08 - 11:24 pm | #
3. No parroting of MSM/Wingnut bullshit.
"MSM" is the wingnut bullshit term for corporate media. They're the ones who started calling it "mainstream media".
puppethead |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:24 pm | #
I'm going out on a limb and then I'm going to bed:
What did Aryaan Hirsi Ali expect? I don't think Theo Van Gogh deserved to be murdered in the least, but you dealing with extremist. Their not known for thinking things through.
Monica_A: Dammit! |
04.18.08 - 11:25 pm | #
This "idea" is too stupid to be on Atrios's blog.
This is just so...sincere. Hats off!
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:25 pm | #
...I did't think 13-Y.O.'s were allowed to have 237 children and whiskey-soaked bacon...
I am so out of touch...
Jack K., the Grumpy Forester |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:25 pm | #
Keep in mind that baggage handlers' nicknames for each other is "thrower".
ronjazz |
04.18.08 - 11:25 pm | #
Don't forget that MoveOn was formed to help the clenis. Thanks a bunch Senator Clinton.
ErinPDX |
04.18.08 - 11:26 pm | #
Exhibit A: Paul Krugman. There seems to be a discounting of his columns on the assumption he's pro-Hillary.
Not knowing his reasons, I can't imagine why he's pro-Hillary.
Bobby, Who ♥ Kucinich |
04.18.08 - 11:26 pm | #
Make all the rules you like and follow them to the letter.
Rule #4 in politics is never get caught breaking the rules.
Rule #5 is known as the Nixon or Watergate rule and you can probably figure it out from #4.
Joe Scabrosaurus |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:26 pm | #
Fuck that, you mick maven of masculine dominance. What about Vince Foster?
sidhra صي ذ& |
04.18.08 - 11:27 pm | #
For all you DFH's in Northeast Tennessee, assuming there are any:
***
Subject: Rob Russell fo Congress Fund-Festival Tomorrow Night!
Just a reminder: I'm having my first "Rob Russell for Congress" fundraiser -- a "Fund-Festival" of music -- tomorrow night at the Acoustic Coffeehouse's Next Door stage in Johnson City (415 W. Walnut St. - Johnson City, TN 37604) starting at 7 pm and ending around 11 pm. Hope you can make it -- and spread the word! = RR
Rob Russell
www.robrussellforcongress.com
rob@robrussellforcongress.com
***
I'll be the DFH playing guitar (and singing some) with the Bystanders. The other guitarist is Rob Russell himself.
No Democrat has won in that district since like 1832. But Rob just might do it!
I'd love to see you there! Peace.
Speedy del Saxo |
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04.18.08 - 11:27 pm | #
I'm pretty far leftist, but this is just stupifyingly idiotic. How old are you, 13?
I'm pretty grateful that you're willing to share your thickness with the entire internet. It shows a lot of dedication!
Zap Rowsdower, aka Habeas |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:28 pm | #
In participating in this blog over the past several years, I've found one commenter, whose grandfather was older than mine.
His grandfather was born in 1867.
Mine was born in 1872.
MP |
04.18.08 - 11:28 pm | #
Krugman has always _always_ been pro free trade.
euphronius |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:28 pm | #
The package handling standards for UPS and FedEx is that a package has to be able to withstand being dropped onto a concrete floor from about 6 feet, up to 20 times. This does not count the other damage that can occur due to lame-brained package handlers, doing things like stacking a load of steel on top of a package marked with the label, "fragile, contains glass and crystal".
Doug | 04.18.08 - 11:21 pm | #
I've been selling books and records internationally for the last 25 years, and my stuff has never gotten damaged in transit.
What really pisses me off is that I actually sell through Amazon, and their standards for "proper" packing for independent sellers are actually more stringent than their own.
Plus, I like how when I get a book from them that's damaged, I need to describe that damage if I later decide to sell it on their site, instead of trying to pass it off as new. Such a deal!
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:28 pm | #
7. Topless gravatars are welcome
(Does that violate rule #1?)
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William H. Rehnquist |
04.18.08 - 11:29 pm | #
6. No gratuitous Monty Python references.
watertiger
This is the only place the wingnut talking points ever get adequately and punctually answered.
orr |
04.18.08 - 11:30 pm | #
7. No zombie jokes.
Yeah!
What if some of the rules conflict with one another? Will there be a governing body that decides? And what will she be wearing?
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William H. Rehnquist |
04.18.08 - 11:30 pm | #
6. No gratuitous Monty Python references.
Is there such a thing as a non-gratuitous MP reference?
Zap Rowsdower, aka Habeas |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:31 pm | #
7. Topless gravatars are welcome
(Does that violate rule #1?)
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William H. Rehnquist
Not if you include both genders....
flory |
04.18.08 - 11:31 pm | #
Just to clarify:
I think speaking out against any type of extremism is brave, but let's not be naive to think they would not be upset by what you said. Half of the time I post here I expect to be attacked (albeit not to death). Let's not be naive about consequences is my point.
Monica_A: Dammit! |
04.18.08 - 11:31 pm | #
This is the only place the wingnut talking points ever get adequately and punctually answered.
orr | 04.18.08 - 11:30 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
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the collective knowledge of this site could at LEAST make Jeopardy Tournament of Champions.
euphronius |
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04.18.08 - 11:31 pm | #
This is your moment Arthur Pewtey
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:32 pm | #
#457: No flirting.
Ali, now a habs fan |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:32 pm | #
Is there such a thing as a non-gratuitous MP reference?
Zap Rowsdower
there was once, but it is no more, it has ceased to be
::matthew |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:32 pm | #
moi! you could possible mean moi!
D2 |
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04.18.08 - 11:32 pm | #
Not if you include both genders....
Oh, I hadn't thought about that. I suppose women could have topless gravatars as well. I was actually referring to a gravatar I was planning where I let my moobs run free.
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William H. Rehnquist |
04.18.08 - 11:32 pm | #
Exhibit A: Paul Krugman. There seems to be a discounting of his columns on the assumption he's pro-Hillary.
I don't know if he's pro-Hillary or not, but today's column pissed me off. The fact that the median income in PA may have gone up in the 90s has nothing to do with how many small towns were decimated by job losses and economic decay.
He's an economist. He knows better and yet he used income statistics what can only have been a deliberately misleading way.
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Sparkle Plenty |
04.18.08 - 11:32 pm | #
#457(a) Changed my mind. More flirting.
Ali, now a habs fan |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:33 pm | #
8. Whenever Phila's not onscreen, all the other commenters should be asking "Where's Phila?"
Phila, Pizen Sarpint | Homepage | 04.18.08 - 11:32 pm | #
If you weren't absent so much, you'd see that this rule is unnecessary. We may need a rule to address the "aw fuck, is he still here?" posts, though.
ronjazz |
04.18.08 - 11:33 pm | #
wow - I just noticed Vladimir Guerrero doesn't wear batting gloves - ouchy
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:33 pm | #
Y'know...when you add up all the collective 'noncomments' about BSG tonite, those of us who haven't seen it can get a pretty good idea of what happens.
Did this putz ever hear of the Vitter Amendment, the single most important piece of gun rights legislation of recent years, preventing the government from taking your guns away from you in an emergency?
Obama supported it. Some gun owners groups that are not part of the GOP internal command structure have endorsed him for it. But does Oliphant care?
DBX |
04.18.08 - 11:34 pm | #
Y'know...when you add up all the collective 'noncomments' about BSG tonite, those of us who haven't seen it can get a pretty good idea of what happens.
Comment by flory blocked. [unkill][show =====================
no. you have no idea.
euphronius |
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04.18.08 - 11:35 pm | #
Oh, I hadn't thought about that. I suppose women could have topless gravatars as well. I was actually referring to a gravatar I was planning where I let my moobs run free.
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William H. Rehnquist | 04.18.08 - 11:32 pm
Zombie Moobs!
Ali, now a habs fan |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:35 pm | #
I don't know if he's pro-Hillary or not, but today's column pissed me off.
Let's not forget that Krugman is not too far removed from his "free trade can do no wrong" days.
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William H. Rehnquist |
04.18.08 - 11:35 pm | #
Y'know...when you add up all the collective 'noncomments' about BSG
tonite, those of us who haven't seen it can get a pretty good idea of
what happens.
What's the best way to bid on an ebay auction? Does everybody slip in a final bid at the last minute?
marcia |
04.18.08 - 11:35 pm | #
He's an economist. He knows better and yet he used income statistics what can only have been a deliberately misleading way.
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Sparkle Plenty | 04.18.08 - 11:32 pm | #
when bill gates walks into a bar, average wealth increases.
Classical and neo-classical economists expect the other drunks to be grateful.
rootless-e |
04.18.08 - 11:36 pm | #
What's the best way to bid on an ebay auction? Does everybody slip in a final bid at the last minute?
marcia
(link may contain joke stolen from Watertiger without so much as a hat tip)
The Kenosha Kid |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:36 pm | #
i shut up! i didnt say anything!
euphronius |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:36 pm | #
has nothing to do with how many small towns were decimated by job losses and economic decay.
my childhood county, big time
ErinPDX |
04.18.08 - 11:36 pm | #
Y'know...when you add up all the collective 'noncomments' about BSG tonite, those of us who haven't seen it can get a pretty good idea of what happens.
Anya was killt! I have a theory ...
Apostate |
04.18.08 - 11:36 pm | #
What's the best way to bid on an ebay auction? Does everybody slip in a final bid at the last minute?
marcia
A study was done and it showed that people who bid before the last minutes end up driving the price up. It's best to hold off as long as possible.
puppethead |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:36 pm | #
Krugman isn't pro-Hillary, but he is pro-Schumer.
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari
Pretty much the same difference.
Bobby, Who ♥ Kucinich |
04.18.08 - 11:36 pm | #
wow - I just noticed Vladimir Guerrero doesn't wear batting gloves -
Well, not on his hands anyway. If you know what I mean.
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William H. Rehnquist |
04.18.08 - 11:36 pm | #
Marcia, I don't if there hasn't been any action up until then. But I watch it like a hawk if there have been several bids.
Ali, now a habs fan |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:37 pm | #
not my favorite krugs column.
euphronius |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:37 pm | #
WATERTIGER!
I need to send you A VERY IMPORTANT EMAIL.
Thers |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:37 pm | #
wow - I just noticed Vladimir Guerrero doesn't wear batting gloves -
Well, not on his hands anyway. If you know what I mean.
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William H. Rehnquist
so *that's* flea's real name...
::matthew |
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04.18.08 - 11:38 pm | #
What's the best way to bid on an ebay auction? Does everybody slip in a final bid at the last minute?
marcia
Depends what the item is. But if it's sought after, people may have automatic bidding set up for 30 seconds or so before it closes. You can still beat 'em, but you usually need to have a couple windows open and ready to go.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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04.18.08 - 11:38 pm | #
Y'know...when you add up all the collective 'noncomments' about BSG tonite, those of us who haven't seen it can get a pretty good idea of what happens.
Just sayin.......
flory
...I actually wrote about rule #943 being a prohibition of quasi-liveblogging BSG episodes that others can't see at the same time, then I deleted it...
Jack K., the Grumpy Forester |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:38 pm | #
Fourth rule: No telling other people what they can write on their blogs.
Peter Principle |
04.18.08 - 11:38 pm | #
sidhra, no shit, are you actucally claiming the oldest Eschaton grandfather?
You realize, that 1865 is a big thing to do.
MP |
04.18.08 - 11:38 pm | #
What's the best way to bid on an ebay auction? Does everybody slip in a final bid at the last minute?
marcia
Yes.
And wait til GWPDA is around and ask that question.
She is the queen of eBay.
flory |
04.18.08 - 11:38 pm | #
But, I can still use the "F" word, right?
Guitardedkev |
04.18.08 - 11:39 pm | #
It's best to hold off as long as possible.
The other rule is to decide before hand how much the item is worth to you, and not ever bid higher than that.
I never bid at the last moment myself, prefering instead to bid a low price and hoping others don't find this item.
Doug |
04.18.08 - 11:39 pm | #
Matthews: Obama "can't walk into a dinette with five or six guys there, white guys, in some cases ... He can't just shake hands and hang out"
That Obama fellow sure is one uppity negro, eh, Matthews?
Apostate |
04.18.08 - 11:39 pm | #
Rule #9: Head on over to Swan's blog
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William H. Rehnquist |
04.18.08 - 11:39 pm | #
wow - I just noticed Vladimir Guerrero doesn't wear batting gloves -
Well, not on his hands anyway. If you know what I mean.
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William H. Rehnquist | 04.18.08 - 11:36 pm | #
and his pants fit like a glove...
ronjazz |
04.18.08 - 11:39 pm | #
Geez, I hope Obama wins in PA. That would be a sublime surprise.
Bobby, Who ♥ Kucinich |
04.18.08 - 11:43 pm | #
"He's an economist. He knows better and yet he used income statistics what can only have been a deliberately misleading way.
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Sparkle Plenty"
Krugman "used income statistics" in a "deliberately misleading way"
Wow. Your facts backing that point up were marvelous. Oh right... you didn’t back that up.
hadenough |
04.18.08 - 11:44 pm | #
the overt racism of some of the so-callled "progressve" blogs is pretty fucking funny. I guess it takes an Obama candidacy to brng out their inner racist reactionary
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari |
04.18.08 - 11:44 pm | #
BE ALERT!
Thers
the the hell is a lert?
::matthew |
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04.18.08 - 11:44 pm | #
"Matthews: Obama "can't walk into a dinette with five or six guys there, white guys, in some cases ... He can't just shake hands and hang out"
What the hell was Matthews trying to say with this? I don't get it.
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Sparkle Plenty |
04.18.08 - 11:44 pm | #
In abiding by Rule 57, I found the quote at the linked blog.
See? That's how it's done!
The Kenosha Kid |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:44 pm | #
I AM AWAITING A VERY IMPORTANT EMAIL TOO!
Just thought you should know.
Ali, now a habs fan |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:44 pm | #
alert? I am thelert
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:44 pm | #
Dirty fucking hippies don't give a shit about no rules.
left field, 99.9% dirty hippie |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:44 pm | #
ok - did he really say this? he's capable, no doubt but did he?
I keep one thing in mind about economists: if you laid all of the economists in the world end-to-end they'd still point in different directions.
puppethead |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:45 pm | #
I got a very sweet email from a Ms Tiger. Made my day.
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:45 pm | #
BE ALERT!
Thers
Indoor voice please.
People are sleeping.
flory |
04.18.08 - 11:45 pm | #
I wonder if the dinette was gold-flecked formica.
Apostate |
04.18.08 - 11:45 pm | #
Jesus. If only the world were nothing but rainbows and flowers!! This "idea" is too stupid to be on Atrios's blog. People disagree. Often they disagree about what constitutes racism, sexism, and/or "bullshit". Good god. I'm sure you and I would be on the same side of most topics, I'm pretty far leftist, but this is just stupifyingly idiotic. How old are you, 13?
Fuck you.
I hope that helps.
Thers |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:46 pm | #
I am not really sure where Krugman is coming from in this election. There is more to this than meets the eye. Perhaps there is a personal connection to the campaigns? Is a former student advising Clinton or a rival advising Barack? The columns just reek or pettiness (from my perspective.)
As far as the free trade issue. It is so difficult to even discuss because what it means to one person is not what it means to another. When Marcellina explained the other day that American goods were not actually going down in price in Europe because the prices are controlled and the only benefit was to the store owners and distributors: it just made me furious. (And me alone, apparently)
So we have free trade here when the dollar's value is lower we pay more. When the dollar rises in value, we pay less for foreign goods. But this is not true in Europe? Who agreed to this and why? This is free trade?
And we send our manufacturing jobs away and replace them with what? Financial sector jobs - like the 9000 that Citigroup eliminated today? - and what do they MAKE that we can sell?
I am sorry, Professor, you really do not see enough for me.
DWD |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:46 pm | #
You realize, that 1865 is a big thing to do.
MP
I may need to see some documentation if you expect to get this toaster.
Joe Scabrosaurus |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:46 pm | #
remind me to not include some of you in meh secret resistance force. jeeze.
euphronius |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:46 pm | #
See? That's how it's done!
I am an enabler.
Apostate |
04.18.08 - 11:46 pm | #
This exchange of a potential email exchange is really exciting. I can't believe that I'm actually witnessing it!
Zap Rowsdower, aka Habeas |
Homepage |
04.18.08 - 11:47 pm | #
I got a very sweet email from a Ms Tiger. Made my day.
The Reagan revolution proved adept in its prime goal of redistribution of wealth from 1980 until today. The Center on Budget and Policy Priorities shows in a 2007 study:
The top 1% of the population received 14.0% of the national after-tax income in 2004, nearly double its 7.5% share in 1979. (Each percentage point of after-tax income is equivalent to US$71 billion in 2004 dollars.) In contrast, the middle fifth of the population, which has 20 times more people in it, received 15.0% of the national after-tax income in 2004, down from 16.5% in 1979. The bottom fifth received 4.9% of the income in 2004, down from 6.8% in 1979.
Yet, the most important cultural impact of the Reagan revolution was the unleashing of the power of mega-corporations. It can be said in the year 2008, that the power of large corporations is as unfettered as any time in American history, and that is saying something.
The modern industrial corporation and the American republic were born contemporaneously. The basically centralized authoritarian structure of the corporation and the comparatively distributed democratic structure of the republic led to rather a fitful existence between the two from the beginning. Thomas Jefferson was the first to warn of the concentrated power of the new corporate entities. Fifty years later, at the dawn of the first Gilded Age, Henry and Charles Adams, the great grandsons of America's second president John Adams, would warn in their Chapters of Erie:
And yet already our great corporations are fast emancipating themselves from the State, or rather subjecting the State to their own control, while individual capitalists, who long ago abandoned the attempt to compete with them, will next seek to control them. In this dangerous path of centralization, [shipping and railroad magnate Cornelius] Vanderbilt [1794-1877] has taken the latest step in advance. He has combined the natural power of the individual with the factitious power of the corporation. The famous L'Etat, c'est moi of Louis XIV represents Vanderbilt's position in regard to his railroads. Unconsciously he has introduced Caesarism into corporate life. He has, however, but pointed out the way which others will tread. The individual will hereafter be engrafted on the corporation, democracy running its course, and resulting in imperialism; and Vanderbilt is but the precursor of a class of men who will wield within the State a power created by the State, but too great for its control. He is the founder of a dynasty.
It would be a warning continually sounded by others across the last decades of the 19th century. Eventually, the Populist Movement would emerge, a uniquely American movement that was a reaction from a dominant but declining agriculture economy to a growing and increasingly powerful industrial economy. The question of concentrated corporate power became a popular concern.
1Watt, Hermit |
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04.18.08 - 11:47 pm | #
I am an enabler.
Apostate | 04.18.08 - 11:46 pm | #
You smell like a lert.
ronjazz |
04.18.08 - 11:47 pm | #
"Yes. Yes, he did."
(bangs head on wall)
really the coloreds are just like real people... ya know?
SHIT repugs are STUPID about race.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
04.18.08 - 11:47 pm | #
How many left coasters here are heading to Erin's house in Sept? I am planning on it.
Ali, now a habs fan |
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04.18.08 - 11:48 pm | #
Sexson 2nd home run!!!!
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray |
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04.18.08 - 11:48 pm | #
I can't believe that I'm actually witnessing it!
You should see when we talk to each other in person.
republicans think black people run the gamut between Dr J and Clarence Thomas.
euphronius |
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04.18.08 - 11:49 pm | #
[still sitting on edge of chair, waiting for email...]
watertiger |
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04.18.08 - 11:49 pm | #
thers, thought you might like to know that your ibisi stomped fsu tonight in baseball
::matthew |
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04.18.08 - 11:49 pm | #
Clarence Thomas is an excellent bowler.
ronjazz |
04.18.08 - 11:49 pm | #
How many left coasters here are heading to Erin's house in Sept? I am planning on it.
Me! Me!
Erin and I were talking about find people coming from Seattle (and points north) and seeing if we could book amtrack tickets together. Party train to NorthWeschacon!
MikeJ |
04.18.08 - 11:49 pm | #
What is this "baseball"?
Ali, now a habs fan |
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04.18.08 - 11:50 pm | #
You smell like a lert.
Haloscan is crap at transmitting pheromones.
Apostate |
04.18.08 - 11:50 pm | #
I'm pretty far leftist, but this is just stupifyingly idiotic. How old are you, 13?
Do you ever laugh?
sidhra صي ذ& |
04.18.08 - 11:50 pm | #
it just made me furious. (And me alone, apparently)
Seriously, DWD...why do you keep saying this? It's not true, and all it does is irritate people.
There's a big difference between not responding to a given comment, and not caring about the issue to which it refers.
I'm not saying this in an unfriendly way.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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04.18.08 - 11:50 pm | #
Ali - Portland will warm beneath my golden glow this September. I will bring a fresh Sharpie to accommodate autograph seekers.
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray |
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04.18.08 - 11:50 pm | #
i was at the obama site before the rally after i left work.
i know most of you will think im stupid, but when i saw the multitudes streaming into the city to see Barack i had a religious experience.
and im an atheist.
euphronius |
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04.18.08 - 11:50 pm | #
Clarence Thomas is an excellent bowler.
I'd hate to know what he finds in the finger holes.
Thomas Jefferson, the archetype Democrat, took the appropriate and tough stance against them.
You want strong foreign policy and good economic decisions? Go with the Democrats every time.
puppethead |
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04.18.08 - 11:51 pm | #
Christ, the Internets are slow tonight...
DO NOT GIVE UP TO DESPAIR, WATERTIGER! I JUST HAVE A BAD CONNECTION!
Thers |
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04.18.08 - 11:51 pm | #
[still sitting on edge of chair, waiting for email...]
A watched inbox never delivers.
sidhra صي ذ& |
04.18.08 - 11:51 pm | #
BONGO! as the liarbird made out!
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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04.18.08 - 11:52 pm | #
[still sitting on edge of chair, waiting for email...]
ok so I sent you one
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
04.18.08 - 11:52 pm | #
Hadenough -- Did you read the column? Krugman is the one who didn't back up his argument.
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Sparkle Plenty |
04.18.08 - 11:52 pm | #
Golden glow, Walterneff? I like teh golden glowz.
Ali, now a habs fan |
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04.18.08 - 11:52 pm | #
the correct response to the Barbary pirates would be to use the time machine to go back in time and settle Carthago with excess population fro East Orange, NJ.
euphronius |
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04.18.08 - 11:52 pm | #
I'm pretty far leftist, but this is just stupifyingly idiotic. How old are you, 13?
reading TNR does not make one pretty far leftist
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari |
04.18.08 - 11:52 pm | #
I sent an email to myself the other day to remind myself to do some sort of task I've since forgotten - I got it 2 days later.
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray |
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04.18.08 - 11:53 pm | #
Given the amount of bacon consumed around here, it's certain that my house's plumbing could not handle the visit. We'll set something up close to the train station downtown.
ErinPDX |
04.18.08 - 11:53 pm | #
"Uncle Blodge, don't slam your head against that wall! You might hurt the wall!"
wouldn't dream of it.
I did once punch a locker though...
and a phone box
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
04.18.08 - 11:53 pm | #
reading TNR does not make one pretty far leftist
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari | 04.18.08 - 11:52 pm | #
True enough. Makeup and good lighting might help.
ronjazz |
04.18.08 - 11:54 pm | #
GravatarGiven the amount of bacon consumed around here, it's certain that my house's plumbing could not handle the visit. We'll set something up close to the train station downtown.
ErinPDX | 04.18.08 - 11:53 pm
Is Thers invited? Oh noes!!
Ali, now a habs fan |
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04.18.08 - 11:54 pm | #
I offer a free taste of Bacon to all attendees of EschaErin
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray |
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04.18.08 - 11:54 pm | #
Financial rewards only concern
While neo-liberals, unconcerned for the most part with any notions of wealth equality, concentrated almost entirely on financial rewards, thus the constant need for financial growth and the removing of taxes from gains on capital. This has had a tremendous impact on the American economy as the New York Times reported recently: "Profits from the financial sector now account for 31% of total United States corporate earnings - up from 20% in 1990 and 8% back in 1950."
ow, the number one enemy of finance is inflation, so as inflation begins to rear its ugly head, the ability for neo-liberalism to provide its benefits, which are at best inequitable, becomes increasingly problematic. For in the school of neo-liberalism, low interest rates are imperative to financial benefits, but low interest rates are impossible in inflationary times. It seems neo-liberalism has run into intrinsic problems just as the New Deal economics did in 1970s.
However, we may very well be at a point of fundamental questions neither the New Deal or neo-liberalism care to ask. For in the end, New Deal and neo-liberal political economy are simply two sides of the same coin. They are a political and cultural school of thought that seeks one end, economic growth. Both ultimately depend on growth in the creation of jobs, growth in the production of goods, and growth in consumption each year.
They are a school of thought that depends on infinite resources from what every year becomes increasingly clear to the collective mind of humanity is a very finite planet. It is this fundamental contradiction that will increasingly move into the center of all debate on political economy and a question neither New Deal or neo-liberal economics has any answers.
This contradiction has appeared most recently in the rise in the price of oil, which is the life blood of any economy we have deemed modern for the past century. Global production of crude oil has basically plateaued, while demand has continued to rise. At the same time, rising standards of living across the globe has given pressure to prices in other commodities. Bloomberg reports:
Farmers aren't keeping pace with the diets of a burgeoning middle class in India and China. The Department of Agriculture predicted February 8 that US stockpiles for the 12 months through May will drop 40% to the lowest since 1948 as global production lags behind consumption for the seventh year in eight. "There's been unprecedented demand globally for grains,'' said Gordon Davis, managing director of Melbourne-based AWB Ltd, the largest wheat exporter in Australia. "It's being driven by demand for protein in Asia, which reflects rising incomes.''
Global wheat production for the marketing year through May will probably reach 603 million tons as consumption rises to 619 million tons, according to the USDA. Demand in India, the most-populous nation after China, is up 16% since 2001.
1Watt, Hermit |
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04.18.08 - 11:54 pm | #
Ali, many moons ago I took the train from Eugene to Vancouver. lovely
ErinPDX |
04.18.08 - 11:54 pm | #
When Marcellina explained the other day that American goods were not actually going down in price in Europe because the prices are controlled and the only benefit was to the store owners and distributors: it just made me furious. (And me alone, apparently)
To me free trade, as it's now practiced, is not about global regions or nation states as much as it is about corporate global states where the money is syphoned to the top from the bottom.....globally.
Bobby, Who ♥ Kucinich |
04.18.08 - 11:54 pm | #
i think it's a simple ideological difference. Krugman is and always has been a finance liberal. The republicans have succeeded in moving the center line so far right that Bill Clinton appears on the far left and Krugman, who is a decent person, is at the edge of permitted debate.
It is only to be expected though, that a finance liberal would find a populist liberal like Obama unappealing.
rootless-e |
04.18.08 - 11:54 pm | #
I'd hate to know what he finds in the finger holes.
watertiger
BRAIN BLEACH!!!
I needz mah brain bleach!!!!!!!
flory |
04.18.08 - 11:54 pm | #
reading TNR does not make one pretty far leftist
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari | 04.18.08 - 11:52 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
What about reading it while drinking some sort of cereal beverage, like Pero? That's pretty radical, wouldn't you say?
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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04.18.08 - 11:55 pm | #
Ali, from SEA-PDX is $28 each way on the train. Vancouver, BC to PDX appears to be about $49 each way.
MikeJ |
04.18.08 - 11:55 pm | #
Yeah, Karl Rove, I forgot all about you advising me that my
MP |
04.18.08 - 11:55 pm | #
It is only to be expected though, that a finance liberal would find a populist liberal like Obama unappealing.
rootless-e | 04.18.08 - 11:54 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
thats how im feeling it.
euphronius |
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04.18.08 - 11:55 pm | #
'm not saying this in an unfriendly way.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint
Because I waited and waited and waited and waited and waited for someone to either say, yep or nope: never happened.
I'll pay the bar tab on the Seattle/Portland run. Do the trains have wifi?? We could live blog the trip.
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray |
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04.18.08 - 11:56 pm | #
OK, I fucked up that last post, a little bit.
MP |
04.18.08 - 11:56 pm | #
One of my favorite lines from 30 Rock last night (which was hilarious), was from Liz Lemon's loser ex-boyfriend, when asked by Jack what his politics were.
Neff, husband had to explain EschaGreen is People to me. He's old like you.
ErinPDX |
04.18.08 - 11:56 pm | #
Because I waited and waited and waited and waited and waited for someone to either say, yep or nope: never happened.
That is why.
Sorry.
DWD | Homepage | 04.18.08 - 11:55 pm | #
i waited and i waited
but i didn't feel a thing
Couldn't get high
dunno why
rootless-e |
04.18.08 - 11:57 pm | #
Outlined in his 1798 "Essay on the Principle of Population", Malthus' thinking is quite simple. In any limited biological environment, any species population growth rises to the limits of available food production and once hitting that limit will tail-off, much of the time extraordinarily. For example, a population of rabbits in a clover field will grow until they exhaust the supply of clovers. The population will then decline to match the lesser availability of clovers. Since Malthus, biologists have proven this to be an iron clad law of the natural world.
However, Malthus theory was held aghast by much of the theological and philosophical world. Humanity's theological and philosophical history has been one long attempt to hold itself exceptional from the rest of nature. Thus Thomas Carlyle, mid-19th century British historian and wag coined the phrase, "the dismal science" to disparage both Malthus and much else of early economic thinking.
Yet, Malthus became held in ill-repute nowhere more so than amongst the economic community. His idea of humanity as part of nature flew in the face of both burgeoning growth economics, the new industrial ethos which seemingly proved man's control over nature, and of course the much older philosophical and theological conceits of humanity's natural exceptionalism.
For the next century and half, industrialization swept Western Europe, the United States, and some other small parts of the globe. By 1950, the economics of unlimited growth seemed to have vanquished Malthus. World population growth went from less then a billion to over 3 billion, seemingly a direct refutation of Malthus population theory and an even more direct confirmation of the notion of human exceptionalism.
However, in the early 1970s, as inflation amongst commodities picked-up, oil supplies tightened and industrial economies slowed, Malthus suddenly made a reemergence. Organizations such as the Club of Rome in their report "Limits to Growth", thinkers such as E F Schumacher in his Small is Beautiful, and hundreds of thousands of adherents to the growing global environmental movement, all began questioning industrial economics concept of infinite growth on a finite planet.
1Watt, Hermit |
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04.18.08 - 11:57 pm | #
I offer a free taste of Bacon to all attendees of EschaErin
Fuck - I think my oldest is on the phone getting dumped long distance...
cause he found out she was cheating on him - sux to be 16
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
04.18.08 - 11:57 pm | #
Liveblogging is absolutely imperative. Drinks are secondary.
I say this through the haze of the 3rd martini.
Ali, now a habs fan |
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04.18.08 - 11:58 pm | #
"That's a cool pic!"
it's across the street from my school
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
04.18.08 - 11:58 pm | #
I'll pay the bar tab on the Seattle/Portland run. Do the trains have wifi?? We could live blog the trip.
there is a lounge. And what Amtrak calls "entertainment":
On some routes, onboard entertainment includes seasonal presentations and commentary by volunteer rangers of the National Park Service through Amtrak's Trails and Rails program.
DWD, why didn't you respond to my comment about my home county being screwed in the same manner. Don't you care about our people here?
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ErinPDX |
04.18.08 - 11:58 pm | #
I would like to taste Kevin Bacon.
Jack, the grumpy etc.: you should try your best!
Ali, now a habs fan |
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04.18.08 - 11:58 pm | #
was at the obama site before the rally after i left work.
i know most of you will think im stupid, but when i saw the multitudes streaming into the city to see Barack i had a religious experience.
and im an atheist.
euphronius
I'm tellin' you it's a monumental movement which will reach its apex in Nov.
Bobby, Who ♥ Kucinich |
04.18.08 - 11:59 pm | #
We're almost done completing our "cool cred" checklist. We're almost done watching the first season of "The Wire".
Aren't we just awesome?
Zap Rowsdower, aka Habeas |
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04.18.08 - 11:59 pm | #
Ooh, an EschaThingie in Seattle? I could take the Empire Builder!
puppethead |
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04.18.08 - 11:59 pm | #
readig TNR while drinking a malted beverage makes you weepy, not leftist.
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari |
04.18.08 - 11:59 pm | #
Shorter DWD: Krugman has to be a two faced liar
Projection? You people are to much.
hadenough |
04.18.08 - 11:59 pm | #
Because I waited and waited and waited and waited and waited for someone to either say, yep or nope: never happened.
I've posted stuff here about some issue or other, and not had people say anything about it. It didn't lead me to the conclusion that no one cared about the issue. That just seems like a weird assumption to make.
Except in the case of Atrios and his blackout on biofuels, natch.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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04.18.08 - 11:59 pm | #
I am not trying to be a martyr or set myself up as some sort of prescient son of a bitch there are certain subjects that I perceive are simply not seen as important. The effects of the "Bad" trade deals that have been made is one of these things.
To me they are simply terrible. To most (rational) people they are simply not very important. I try to explain how they are important but the indifference I perceive (and maybe it is me) is simply amazing. It is like there is a blind spot there and no one can even see what is happening.
DWD |
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04.19.08 - 12:00 am | #
Ooh, an EschaThingie in Seattle? I could take the Empire Builder!
Technically in PDX, but we have to transport the drunkards from Seattle.
MikeJ |
04.19.08 - 12:00 am | #
Thersites can make up all the rules his Homeric nobility critiquing ass can fit at once, everyone knows the joke's on him b'cause everyone knows Y-chromo Micks don't represent mainstreet America.
the goddamn k&y |
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04.19.08 - 12:00 am | #
"i know most of you will think im stupid, but when i saw the multitudes streaming into the city to see Barack i had a religious experience."
not stupid, just assimilated into the cult.
jdw |
04.19.08 - 12:00 am | #
1. No Sexism.
2. No Racism.
3. No parroting of MSM/Wingnut bullshit.
Just my idea.
UPDATE: Yes, I mean YOU specifically.
Someone needs to get laid.
Stunt Woman |
04.19.08 - 12:00 am | #
puppethead,
There's gonna be a few folks come here in Sept for the RNC.
Zap Rowsdower, aka Habeas |
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04.19.08 - 12:00 am | #
not just left coasters, though
come on watertiger...can you gals commit to 9/6?
ErinPDX |
04.19.08 - 12:01 am | #
ronjazz, heard about your getz earlier!
Congratulations!
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
04.19.08 - 12:01 am | #
# There are several fundamental pillars in reforming political economy:
1. Ending the idea of infinite linear production and consumption in the closed system that is Earth.
# 2. Moving away from a fossil fuel-based energy system.
# 3. Corporate and government reform.
Concentrating on these three interlinking subjects will allow a comprehensive though in no way exhaustive look at evolving political economy.
The first thing that must be changed is the linear production and consumption model. We must accept the fact that we live on a finite planet, which means the doctrine of infinite growth is an eventual doctrine of disaster. The first rule we must adopt is to bend the current linear production and consumption process into a circle, which means most importantly, we must realize on a closed system like the earth there is no such thing as waste or garbage. We must look at everything we produce as recyclable and if it presently isn't, it must become so.
Secondly, we have to move people off the production and consumption hamster wheel. This is the wheel that requires people to work to produce ever more things so they can be rewarded with ever more consumption. An ethic must be developed of not wanting more, but simply wanting enough - the system as whole must embrace this ethic. People must be enabled to work less and have more time to do other things than just consume.
For breaking out of the linear production and consumption model, the robust evolution of information technologies is going to play a critical role. To this point, information technologies have simply been used to enhance the linear production and consumption model, that is to simply produce more stuff. However, the real value of information technology lies in design, that is, eventually creating more livable societies that use less stuff. Most of our economic institutions will need to be retooled so their most important element is not production, but design. We need to figure out how to design our economy to not produce the most stuff, but more elegantly produce enough. Design is measured not by quantity, but by quality.
The most important element of the modern economy that will need to be redesigned is energy. If there is one thing that can be said that separates the industrial age from all preceding it, it is the exponential rise in energy consumption. Fossil fuels - oil, coal, and natural gas - have provided industrial society with incredibly cheap and portable sources of energy. Modern society is founded on this simple fact. Yet, we are fast reaching the limits of oil availability and the environmental problems of burning fossil fuels in a closed system like the earth are growing, including the increasing inevitability of altering millenia old weather patterns.
1Watt, Hermit |
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04.19.08 - 12:01 am | #
Aren't we just awesome?
Zap Rowsdower, aka Habeas
OK, that's a little needy.
Ali, now a habs fan |
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04.19.08 - 12:01 am | #
I've posted stuff here about some issue or other, and not had people say anything about it. It didn't lead me to the conclusion that no one cared about the issue.
I responded to your whining about UPS already. What the fuck is your problem???!?!?!
Stunt Woman |
04.19.08 - 12:02 am | #
but we do know how to spell, usually, so we got that going for us.
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari |
04.19.08 - 12:03 am | #
My EschaPDX offer is - I organize nothing, I decide nothing, I just show up and pay for booze; you're all on your own for grub.
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray |
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04.19.08 - 12:03 am | #
Shorter DWD: Krugman has to be a two faced liar
Projection? You people are to much.
hadenough
I did not say he was a liar. I said that what was important to him was not the same thing as what is important to those whose lives are being decimated by these trade deals that give advantage to some and devastation to others.
The government or business has NEVER done anything for those places and people they have hurt. I think this is wrong. Sorry.
I guess I should just shut up and let these rich motherfuckers get a little richer. After all, what are we here but just some bitter assholes anyway.
DWD |
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04.19.08 - 12:03 am | #
To me they are simply terrible. To most (rational) people they are simply not very important. I try to explain how they are important but the indifference I perceive (and maybe it is me) is simply amazing. It is like there is a blind spot there and no one can even see what is happening.
DWD
Alternative explanation: There are 82 visitors online and maybe 30 actively commenting.
None of those very few people has anything of value to add to a conversation on the subject.
There are probably any number of blogs concentrating on the subject.
flory |
04.19.08 - 12:03 am | #
To most (rational) people they are simply not very important
BULLSHIT!!!
You think closing the biggest plywood mill in the us was nothing? Those people made more than teachers, and the jobs haven't been replaced. Why won't you respond to me, DWD. Don't you care?
ErinPDX |
04.19.08 - 12:03 am | #
There's gonna be a few folks come here in Sept for the RNC.
Zap Rowsdower, aka Habeas
Oh yeah, that. I was thinking of going all photojournalist and documenting it.
puppethead |
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04.19.08 - 12:03 am | #
Thers, did you send that email via carrier pigeon?
watertiger |
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04.19.08 - 12:04 am | #
Shorter DWD: Krugman has to be a two faced liar
Projection? You people are to much.
hadenough | 04.18.08 - 11:59 pm | #
It's possible to think someone is wrong, without insisting that they are evil. Try it sometime.
rootless-e |
04.19.08 - 12:04 am | #
WATERTIGER -- THE EMAIL IS DISPATCHED. MAY GOD BE WITH YOU.
Thers |
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04.19.08 - 12:04 am | #
I saw something very sad last weekend. The "store cat" at the Dry Garden Nursery in Oakland was dying. It was laying on the ground, blind and deaf for the previous 24 hours, and only occasionally found the energy to meow, as if to ask "Is anyone there?" and then we all went to pet it.
14 years old, outdoor cat. Not bad.
Stunt Woman |
04.19.08 - 12:04 am | #
Why you gotta hate on us?
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter |
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04.19.08 - 12:04 am | #
My EschaPDX offer is - I organize nothing, I decide nothing, I just show up and pay for booze; you're all on your own for grub.
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray
I am the decider.
Bow to me.
ErinPDX |
04.19.08 - 12:04 am | #
I have a brother named Kevin. Here he is.
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray |
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04.19.08 - 12:04 am | #
Erin and I were talking about find people coming from Seattle (and points north) and seeing if we could book amtrack tickets together. Party train to NorthWeschacon!
I had not thought of that, but I am evil enough to actually enjoy driving.
Tlazolteotl |
04.19.08 - 12:05 am | #
WATERTIGER -- THE EMAIL IS DISPATCHED. MAY GOD BE WITH YOU.
Oh, and ladies, I will be chaperoned.
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray |
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04.19.08 - 12:06 am | #
ronjazz, heard about your getz earlier!
Congratulations!
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 04.19.08 - 12:01 am | #
grazie. it was big fun.
ronjazz |
04.19.08 - 12:06 am | #
4Legs, i noes h8s on u. Not evr!
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
04.19.08 - 12:06 am | #
"Someone needs to get laid."
Er, don't we all? Or maybe just me."
I'm certain it's not just you
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
04.19.08 - 12:06 am | #
1. No Sexism.
2. No Racism.
3. No parroting of MSM/Wingnut bullshit.
------------
4. No 500 word essays.
Elias |
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04.19.08 - 12:06 am | #
WATERTIGER -- THE EMAIL IS DISPATCHED. MAY GOD BE WITH YOU.
I'M A SECULAR HUMANIST, DAMMIT!
OK, IS IT OK IF I JUST WISH THAT COLIN FIRTH BE WITH YOU, IS THAT OK?
Thers |
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04.19.08 - 12:06 am | #
Are we squabbling among ourselves again?
Ahh Democrats, it's good to be among ones own kind. Kitty cats ho!!! Yee haw!
Point of order? If we spell bitchez with a 'z' as in "Mars bitchez" it doesn't count as sexism does it?
catalexis the Communist |
04.19.08 - 12:07 am | #
I've posted stuff here about some issue or other, and not had people say anything about it. It didn't lead me to the conclusion that no one cared about the issue. That just seems like a weird assumption to make.
Most of the time I'm talkin' to myself when I post here. But I'm on dial-up, it's easier to follow comments here than most threads. And besides, what do I know?
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Sparkle Plenty |
04.19.08 - 12:07 am | #
I was thinking of going all photojournalist and documenting it.
I was out in Seattle in '99 for the protest against the WTO. I'd bet that the trip out there on the Empire Builder would be a treat!
Zap Rowsdower, aka Habeas |
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04.19.08 - 12:07 am | #
I have nothing. Men fight for me because if they do not, I throw them off my land and I starve their wives and children. Those men who bled the ground red at Falkirk fought for William Wallace. He fights for something that I never had. And I took it from him, when I betrayed him. I saw it in his face on the battlefield and it's tearing me apart.
euphronius |
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04.19.08 - 12:07 am | #
Oh, and ladies, I will be chaperoned.
Ah, I heard you were too old for me anyway
Tlazolteotl |
04.19.08 - 12:07 am | #
You want strong foreign policy and good economic decisions? Go with the Democrats every time.
puppethead
I would probably have done it too, but the problem is that Jefferson did it without the approval of Congress, and here we are.
Joe Scabrosaurus |
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04.19.08 - 12:07 am | #
Has anyone else here read Noel Ignatiev's How the Irish Became White?
the goddamn k&y |
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04.19.08 - 12:07 am | #
The effects of the "Bad" trade deals that have been made is one of these things.
To me they are simply terrible. To most (rational) people they are simply not very important.
Well, if that's what you want to persist in believing, there's not much I can do about it. Don't be surprised when people get annoyed about it, though.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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don't you wish I start drinking again?
Reports in the British press indicated, however, that the campaign plan was based on the assumption that British and US troops would play the central role in an effort to roll up the Mahdi Army in Basra. The Independent reported March 21 that Furayji had publicly declared there would be a "final battle" in Basra, probably during the summer, and that Britain had already promised to provide military forces for the campaign. It quoted "senior government sources" as saying that Prime Minister Gordon Brown's earlier pledge to cut the number of British troops in the south from 4,100 to 2,500 would "almost certainly be postponed until at least the end of the year".
Two days later, the Sunday Mirror quoted a "senior US military source" as saying that the "coalition" would turn its attention to Basra once the "huge operation" in Mosul against al Qaeda and nationalist Sunni insurgents was completed, and that the US was prepared to redeploy "thousands" of US Marines to Basra, if necessary.
This plan for a major foreign troop deployment to the south for the first time since the US battles against the Mahdi Army in April 2004 did not sit well with Maliki. In 2006 and 2007, he had repeatedly blocked US proposals that US and Iraqi forces target Muqtada al-Sadr's Mahdi Army in Baghdad as well as in the south.
When Vice President Dick Cheney, who had previously played the "bad cop" in the George W Bush administration's relations with Maliki, visited Baghdad in mid-March, one of his objectives was to get Maliki to go along with the Petraeus plan to eliminate the commanding position of Muqtada's forces in Basra. Maliki has told Iraqi officials that Cheney put pressure on him to go along with the Basra operation, according one Iraqi source.
After Cheney met briefly with Maliki on March 17, he discussed the "security situation" with Muqtada's Shi'ite rival, Abdul-Aziz al-Hakim, head of the Supreme Islamic Iraqi Council, which has been pushing for the destruction of the Mahdi Army. Cheney lavished praise on Hakim, whom he ostentatiously called "my friend", for "working so hard with the United States and with Iraq's other leaders to advance the cause of Iraq's freedom and democracy". The signal of the Bush administration's intentions toward Muqtada could hardly have been clearer.
1Watt, Hermit |
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04.19.08 - 12:07 am | #
"Has anyone else here read Noel Ignatiev's How the Irish Became White?"
We supported Hillary and Bill Clinton through all their failings...and their manipulations at the time because we were happy that we Democrats were finally fighting back and winning.
TO USE THE DISINGENUOUS TACTICS to try and destroy a smart, honest, and nice man IS REPULSIVE. Yes, YOU, YOU HILLARY SUPPORTERS. I have started to hate her and Bill - and REALLY HATE YOU TOO.
Sam Ingersoll
Philadelphia, PA
p.s. Perhaps the chickens ARE coming home to roost. (Better lock the hen house gate and keep them out....forever.)
sam |
04.19.08 - 12:08 am | #
I have a good WTO story - I was downtown: I'll share it, if someone reminds me, at the EschaGreen is People
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04.19.08 - 12:09 am | #
When are you Obama supporters going to apologize for your stupidity?
Toby |
04.19.08 - 12:09 am | #
Matthews keeps thinking that Obamas bitter comment is hurting him in PA.
Ever since he made the comment his ratings are improving. All the local newspaper comments are suggesting the opposite of what Matthews is saying.
People are thinking Obama speaks the truth and the problems can't be fixed unless you recognize they are there.
Matthews mentioned on Maher tonight that he thinks Hillary will win by 10+. All indications here in PA are indicating Obama is catching up.
Just my humble opinion from a small town in PA.
small town PA |
04.19.08 - 12:09 am | #
4Legs, i noes h8s on u. Not evr!
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5. No made up languages.
Elias |
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04.19.08 - 12:09 am | #
Rightly so. They're as rich in English titles and lands as they are in Scottish, just as we are. You admire this man, this William Wallace. Uncompromising men are easy to admire. He has courage; so does a dog. But it is exactly the ability to *compromise* that makes a man noble. And understand this: Edward Longshanks is the most ruthless king ever to sit on the throne of England. And none of us, and nothing of Scotland will remain, unless *we* are as ruthless.
euphronius |
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04.19.08 - 12:09 am | #
OK, IS IT OK IF I JUST WISH THAT COLIN FIRTH BE WITH YOU, IS THAT OK?
Is good book.
the goddamn k&y |
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04.19.08 - 12:10 am | #
Are we squabbling among ourselves again?
Enough already. Dark chocolate poundcake for all. Now eat.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
04.19.08 - 12:10 am | #
OK, IS IT OK IF I JUST WISH THAT COLIN FIRTH BE WITH YOU, IS THAT OK?
Thers
always with the mr. darcy
::matthew |
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04.19.08 - 12:10 am | #
"fair enough. but I saw it in their faces on the sidewalk and it's tearing me apart."
tearing you apart? why?
this is supposed to be a happy occassion!
jdw |
04.19.08 - 12:10 am | #
Who wrote the theme to the Odd Couple
oscha |
04.19.08 - 12:10 am | #
ErinPDX,
I thought I was but are you sure you want to be identified with a malcontent like me?
I know what you are saying and I agree 100%. I just wish it were easier.
This week alone the New York Times has had two editorials calling for more trade deals that are bad for people.
And unions? Don't even get me started. The idea that people should be able to organize and bargain is so foreign in America right now that they might as well pass laws Against Unions it would not make that much difference. The courts have basically outlawed all union activities anyway. (Our Teachers' Association cannot go on strike anymore. If we do they can fine each individual teacher hundreds of dollars a day and the district can fire them. We have not had a raise since they passed this law. Think the law has something to do with it?)
"Has anyone else here read Noel Ignatiev's How the Irish Became White?"
Yes.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
04.19.08 - 12:10 am | #
Neal Hefti - played it on the trumpet all the time
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray |
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04.19.08 - 12:11 am | #
Going to go watch Moyers now. Take care people.
catalexis the Communist |
04.19.08 - 12:11 am | #
5. No made up languages.
Elias | Homepage | 04.19.08 - 12:09 am
WTF???? H8r11!!!!
And Colin Firth/Viggo. Same guy, right? At least, same hormonal reaction.
Ali, now a habs fan |
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04.19.08 - 12:11 am | #
Sam Ingersoll
Philadelphia, PA
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And I thought Obama supporters were full of hope, not hate
Elias |
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04.19.08 - 12:11 am | #
*cough*
viggo as aragorn was teh suck.
that is all.
euphronius |
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04.19.08 - 12:12 am | #
Ahh Democrats, it's good to be among ones own kind.
If you want five opinions, get three Democrats.
MikeJ |
04.19.08 - 12:12 am | #
apparently 62 degrees is the precise temperature in which cats go nuts
::matthew |
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04.19.08 - 12:12 am | #
I have a good WTO story - I was downtown
I got to see my late Senator speak on the back of a flatbed truck denouncing the WTO.
Throughout the speech, I kept hearing folks yell, "Wellstone for president". It was quite an awesome site.
Zap Rowsdower, aka Habeas |
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04.19.08 - 12:12 am | #
Nobody could have foreseen that the Sunni Awakening groups would demand political power.
Don't be a dumbass.
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter | Homepage | 04.19.08 - 12:15 am | # [kill][hide comment]
its meh opinion. i realize im in the minority.
euphronius |
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04.19.08 - 12:16 am | #
The idea that people should be able to organize and bargain is so foreign in America right now that they might as well pass laws Against Unions it would not make that much difference.
I have never heard the plight of my people set forth so eloquently.
Now, if someone would just explain to me what a "union" is.....
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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04.19.08 - 12:16 am | #
I am once again invoking rule 57: Visit my blog!
As long as it's not rule 34.
MikeJ |
04.19.08 - 12:16 am | #
Their man is also an arrogant rhetorician who is really a communist at heart.
Toby | 04.19.08 - 12:14 am | #
So, twice the man McCain is.
ronjazz |
04.19.08 - 12:16 am | #
Toby is still dumb as a sack of hammers.
I have to say at least he's consistent.
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter |
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04.19.08 - 12:16 am | #
I am once again invoking rule 57: Visit my blog!
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Rule 56, Part C, paragraph 4:
"All progressive blogs must include at least one Laura Nyro video."
Elias |
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04.19.08 - 12:16 am | #
I'm going to post new snow photo in a sec - it's coming down hard.
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray |
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04.19.08 - 12:16 am | #
mathews seems to be still pretty plugged into PA insiders, so my guess is that he might be accurate, in this case.
jdw |
That's reason to believe his observation is inaccurate, actually.
Duane V, Bitter Classist |
04.19.08 - 12:16 am | #
If you want five opinions, get three Democrats.
As I understand it, it's six opinions, two democrats, and one malcontented independent.
Apostate |
04.19.08 - 12:17 am | #
"Y'know, the kind of person that Sean Hannity and David Brooks might not completely agree with, but would basically respect....
What might have been...."
LIEBERWHORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jdw |
04.19.08 - 12:17 am | #
Hey WalterNeff,
is it still snowing in Mill Creek? Going like gangbusters here in shoreline for a couple of hours ... started here at about 5:30.
Tlazolteotl |
04.19.08 - 12:17 am | #
ian is running from one side of the house to the other sliding under things, attacking paper and curtains and mewing non-stop
Oh noes!
iz he shedding as he runs about?
Ripley always duz
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter |
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04.19.08 - 12:17 am | #
Who wrote the theme to the 60's Batman show?
oscha |
04.19.08 - 12:17 am | #
You, centaur, are a shameless flirt.
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She digs me.
Elias |
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04.19.08 - 12:17 am | #
I'm going to post new snow photo in a sec - it's coming down hard.
I would like to see that.
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter |
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04.19.08 - 12:18 am | #
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
04.19.08 - 12:19 am | #
You, centaur, are a shameless flirt.
JeffCO
I must uphold my reputation ya know.
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter |
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04.19.08 - 12:19 am | #
Maliki thus feared that a confrontation between thousands of US and British troops and the Mahdi Army would further inflame the feelings of Shi'ites in the south about the occupation, with which his own regime has been so tightly linked.
The Shi'ite south has become the most anti-occupation region in the country. The British polling firm ORB, which has been doing opinion surveys in Iraq since 2005, found in March that 69% of respondents in the south believed security would improve if foreign troops were withdrawn, and only 10% believed it would get worse.
When Maliki met with Petraeus the following morning, according to Petraeus' spokesman, Petraeus warned against sending "a couple of brigades" into the city, suggesting that he did not consider the scale of the operation to be large enough. Nevertheless, when Maliki told him the decision to launch an operation in Basra had already been made and that it would begin in three days, Petraeus agreed to support it.
When the Basra operation became an obvious disaster, however, Washington officials began to question Maliki's motives. On the third day of the operation, as Bush administration officials were reassessing what they described as "a rapidly deteriorating situation in southern Iraq", one official told the Washington Post's Peter Baker they were comparing conspiracy theories about why Maliki had acted so precipitously.
Although that comment was not explained, it clearly implied that Maliki was deliberately undermining the US objective of eliminating the Mahdi Army by using US and British troops.
Bush administration suspicions of Maliki's intentions could not have been eased by the fact that a delegation of pro-government parties traveled to Iran to ask the commander of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps to negotiate a ceasefire with the Mahdi Army. That ploy, which did result in a tenuous ceasefire, raised the possibility that Maliki intended from the beginning that the outcome of the Basra operation would be a new agreement that would prevent the deployment of US and British troops to fight the Mahdi Army during the summer.
1Watt, Hermit |
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04.19.08 - 12:19 am | #
Bobo had a bigger mancrush on Obama in 2006 than Tweety had on Bush. Wha happen?
Springfield, Illinois - - Barack Obama should run for president.
He distrusts righteous anger and zeal. He does not demonize his opponents and tells audiences that he does not think George Bush is a bad man... He has a compulsive tendency to see both sides of any issue...It is surely true that a president who brings a deliberative style to the White House will multiply his knowledge, not divide it... The third reason Obama should run for president is his worldview. At least in the way he conceptualizes the world, he is not an orthodox liberal. In the book, he harks back to a Hamiltonian tradition that calls not for big government, but for limited yet energetic government to enhance social mobility... anyone who’s observed him closely can see that Obama is a new kind of politician. As Klein once observed, he’s that rarest of creatures: a megahyped phenomenon that lives up to the hype... It may not be personally convenient for him, but the times will never again so completely require the gifts that he possesses. Whether you’re liberal or conservative, you should hope Barack Obama runs for president.
Joe Scabrosaurus |
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04.19.08 - 12:19 am | #
Obama supporters are immature political thinkers who don't know enough to know that their man is out of his depth.
We need another dry-drunk serial failure from Texas to get this great nation back on track.
Or failing that, a 150-year-old rageaholic with the moral compass of a turnip.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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04.19.08 - 12:19 am | #
"That's reason to believe his observation is inaccurate, actually."
i'm keeping my hopes low. the way i see it, the demographics are worse for him in pa then they were in ohio...i think he lost by 7 here.
on the other hand, he had a lot more time to campaign in pa, but the political machine, including the big cities, isn't lined up behind him like it was in ohio.
the (not so) little fucker killed my last vacuum cleaner...had to get a new one
he sheds 42.7kg of hair each day, except on tuesdays when he sheds 48.4kg
::matthew
hmm. I shouldn't laugh. The girls shed so much I can only vacuum one room at a time.
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter |
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04.19.08 - 12:21 am | #
I just can't survive without rageohol.
Toby |
04.19.08 - 12:22 am | #
She digs me a hole, pushes me in, then fills it, all the while whistling a happy tune.
Flibbered yer gibbet.
JeffCO |
04.19.08 - 12:22 am | #
the political machine, including the big cities, isn't lined up behind him like it was in ohio.
so i dunno.
jdw |
We must not underestimate Obama's appeal among the very people he was addressing with his "bitterness" comment..Many of these people understand precisely what he meant, and they agree with him. It's the first time in a long time anyone has addressed their concerns.
Duane V, Bitter Classist |
04.19.08 - 12:22 am | #
i can haz razor, perchance?
The Kenosha Kid |
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04.19.08 - 12:22 am | #
The idea that people should be able to organize and bargain is so foreign in America right now that they might as well pass laws Against Unions it would not make that much difference.
Where I grew up the opposite was true, and upon consultation, I believe that was in the borders of the United States.
Just sayin'
Zap Rowsdower, aka Habeas |
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04.19.08 - 12:23 am | #
Yes, I mean YOU specifically.
But...I don't have a blog. Does this mean I have to start one?
Meanie-meanie, tickle a person |
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04.19.08 - 12:23 am | #
That's what it looks like here, WalterNeff. You heard about the heavy snow advisory for Snohomish County? This is April! It looks like December!
Tlazolteotl |
04.19.08 - 12:23 am | #
So how 'bout that heavy wet beaver, earlier today?
Good grief I'm drunk.
MP |
04.19.08 - 12:23 am | #
Or failing that, a 150-year-old rageaholic with the moral compass of a turnip.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint
Which is being really unfair to turnips.
flory |
04.19.08 - 12:23 am | #
I really enjoy watching David Tennant.
Oh, damn. forgot Dr. Who wuz on
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter |
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04.19.08 - 12:23 am | #
I assumed that was a fake Toby. But after that "arrogant rhetoritician" bit, I'm not so sure. Not too many other people washing hogs like that.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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04.19.08 - 12:23 am | #
Thanks, ErinPDX, I appreciate it.
Maybe someday, someone who gives a shit about people who do not make 200K a year will actually be elected to the presidency and there will be a change of focus in this country.
Maybe.
I really doubt it will happen (the change) but I hope.
Where I grew up the opposite was true, and upon consultation, I believe that was in the borders of the United States.
Weird.
Thers
Yeah, ain't that funny?
DWD |
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04.19.08 - 12:24 am | #
"I must uphold my reputation ya know."
I'd be happy to help in any way I can.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
04.19.08 - 12:24 am | #
4Legs, i shuld haz remindz u dat Dr. Who iz on.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
04.19.08 - 12:24 am | #
the dem part in ohio was 100% hillary supporting.
rootless-e |
04.19.08 - 12:24 am | #
i would enjoy a sopping 40 lb beaver on my face.
euphronius |
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04.19.08 - 12:24 am | #
I in the midst of the annual 'Wood rats seek nesting sites under the house' Have noises you wouldn't believe. Girl dog's afraid to sleep in her room on the floor.
Put out the de-con 2 days ago, it takes 4-5 days for it to work.
1Watt, Hermit |
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04.19.08 - 12:25 am | #
You're a coddled coastal elitist who doesn't have the fine grasp of national politics that comes from listening to Bob Seger sing about "riding against the wind."
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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04.19.08 - 12:25 am | #
"ive spent 100% of my life in Philadelphia the past month.
and eyebrow beards are da shizzle
::matthew |
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04.19.08 - 12:25 am | #
Matthews keeps thinking that Obamas bitter comment is hurting him in PA.
The talking assholes on Wash Week In Review were skewing things the same way. They know nothing. They believe that if they say anything it will be believed. Their time has come and gone. They know absolutely nothing.
Bobby, Who ♥ Kucinich |
04.19.08 - 12:25 am | #
3. No parroting of MSM/Wingnut bullshit.
Does Bobo's column from 2006 praising Obama and urging him to run count as RW BS or not?
Joe Scabrosaurus |
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04.19.08 - 12:25 am | #
She digs me a hole, pushes me in, then fills it, all the while whistling a happy tune.
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Reminds me of my ex.
Elias |
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04.19.08 - 12:25 am | #
Billie Piper calls him "David Teninch" for some reason.
It's very weird. I never found out if that was a fashion or if this guy did his own thing. He's not that old in the pic (a flax blond), so it could be a fashion.
Echidne |
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04.19.08 - 12:25 am | #
Watching Slap Shot -- this is a very good movie. Really very well done.
Thers |
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04.19.08 - 12:26 am | #
hell, it was 78 in the NW last weekend. crazy.
I was gonna do trail repair tomorrow for earth day. My guess is more people love the earth when it's not covered in snew.
MikeJ |
04.19.08 - 12:26 am | #
Yeah, it's me, Phila. I just haven't bothered with the other info.
Exactly why the conventional wisdom on Pennsylvania should be disputed. People are more pissed off at McCain and Clinton's pandering than they are by Obama, who is finally acknowledging their concerns.
Duane V, Bitter Classist |
04.19.08 - 12:26 am | #
it was almost 80 degrees here today.
Pfft - as I noted earlier in the week, we had that on Wednesday and snow on Thursday. It's wacky I tell ya!
JeffCO |
04.19.08 - 12:26 am | #
"Watching Slap Shot"
OLD TIME HOCKEY!!!
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
04.19.08 - 12:27 am | #
i would enjoy a sopping 40 lb beaver on my face.
um, no flirting?
sidhra صي ذ& |
04.19.08 - 12:27 am | #
Wow, thanks for the tip poster who's been here for 3 agonizing months.
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Made all the worse with your insufferable attitude.
Elias |
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04.19.08 - 12:27 am | #
please don't urinate or defecate on Elias, as it only gets him excited
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari |
04.19.08 - 12:27 am | #
" from listening to Bob Seger sing about "riding against the wind."
you don't know the heartland if you don'yt listen to meloncougarcamp.
jdw |
04.19.08 - 12:27 am | #
So how 'bout that heavy wet beaver, earlier today?
Good grief I'm drunk.
I have a vision where I die of an alcohol overdose slumped over on my keyboard writing a comment while listening to an Alice Cooper album.
Stunt Woman |
04.19.08 - 12:27 am | #
Hillary Clinton: the best friend John McCain ever had.
Toby |
04.19.08 - 12:27 am | #
Made all the worse with your insufferable attitude.
Elias | Homepage | 04.19.08 - 12:27 am | #
You realize I grew up in New York City, right?
Thers |
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04.19.08 - 12:27 am | #
Best Coast Eschacoid aqui, tambien.
baba durag |
04.19.08 - 12:28 am | #
hell, it was 78 in the NW last weekend. crazy.
ErinPDX
...it was 50+ and sunny on the East Side today. It's really wierd hearing about snow in the Puget Sound area this time of year....
Jack K., the Grumpy Forester |
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04.19.08 - 12:28 am | #
Enough with the sopping beaver thing. Jaysus! Could I be more gay?!
Toby |
04.19.08 - 12:28 am | #
Friday Snow Blogging 2
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray
Spring hasn't yet sprung in ur little corner of teh world, has it?
flory |
04.19.08 - 12:28 am | #
please don't urinate or defecate on Elias, as it only gets him excited
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Stalker.
Elias |
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04.19.08 - 12:28 am | #
Watching Slap Shot -- this is a very good movie. Really very well done.
Back when I was talented, I played a gig with the guys from 'NomeansNo', but they dressed as and called themselves "The Hanson Brothers". Show of a lifetime.
Zap Rowsdower, aka Habeas |
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04.19.08 - 12:28 am | #
"No parroting of MSM/Wingnut bullshit."
Well, I did hear the Pope gave Hillary the finger.
T4TN |
04.19.08 - 12:28 am | #
listening to Bob Seger sing about "riding against the wind."
It's actually "running against the wind" but you wouldn't know that, effette coastal elite that you are.
Tlazolteotl |
04.19.08 - 12:29 am | #
You realize I grew up in New York City, right?
Thers
What burro?
Joe Scabrosaurus |
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04.19.08 - 12:29 am | #
All those tulip growers in the Skagit Valley are fucked - seriously fucked. Why don't we kill the bees while we're at it.
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray |
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04.19.08 - 12:30 am | #
"the dem part in ohio was 100% hillary supporting."
nope. all the big city mayors endorsed obama, as did the majority of the newspapers.
jdw |
04.19.08 - 12:30 am | #
What burro?
Joe Scabrosaurus
ass
::matthew |
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04.19.08 - 12:30 am | #
Phila
Maybe someday I will be smart enough to move out of a place that is located on a lake with deer in my backyard and where my parents, grandparents, cousins and everyone else I know has lived and died for the last 100 years. A place where I do not even lock the doors on my car or my house. A place where my children received a world-class education in the public schools.
Yeah. pretty terrible here. I guess we should all leave.
DWD |
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04.19.08 - 12:30 am | #
So, neckbeard blogging beats PAPAL blogging? Atheists.
The Kenosha Kid |
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04.19.08 - 12:30 am | #
I have a vision where I die of an alcohol overdose slumped over on my keyboard writing a comment while listening to an Alice Cooper album.
Stunt Woman
Stiff uppah lip, woman.
Not to Alice Coopah, Good Lord.
MP |
04.19.08 - 12:30 am | #
It's actually "running against the wind" but you wouldn't know that, effette coastal elite that you are.
Tlazolteotl | 04.19.08 - 12:29 am | #
it always sounds like squeezing out a big shit against the wind to me.
ronjazz |
04.19.08 - 12:30 am | #
butler, i have elias and mimi blocked. please post as annie and shoelimpy asap.
euphronius |
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04.19.08 - 12:30 am | #
Matthews keeps thinking that Obamas bitter comment is hurting him in PA.
The talking assholes on Wash Week In Review were skewing things the same way. They know nothing. They believe that if they say anything it will be believed. Their time has come and gone. They know absolutely nothing.
Bobby, Who ♥ Kucinich
They are completely out of touch with the American people. Conventional "wisdom" my ass.
Duane V, Bitter Classist |
04.19.08 - 12:31 am | #
She digs me a hole, pushes me in, then fills it, all the while whistling a happy tune.
You left out the "stomps him into a fine pulp" part
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter |
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04.19.08 - 12:31 am | #
Hey Jason Siegel and his penis are on Letterman.
(they both star in the movie I just saw)
attaturk |
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04.19.08 - 12:31 am | #
nope. all the big city mayors endorsed obama, as did the majority of the newspapers.
jdw | 04.19.08 - 12:30 am | #
She drove around Ohio in Ted Strickland's car.
rootless-e |
04.19.08 - 12:31 am | #
ronjazz, how are your gorgeous and rapidly growing grandchildren?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
04.19.08 - 12:31 am | #
ass
::matthew
We are all Democrats here.
Joe Scabrosaurus |
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04.19.08 - 12:31 am | #
"I have a vision where I die of an alcohol overdose slumped over on my keyboard writing a comment while listening to an Alice Cooper album."
is there blood coming out of your eyes, and your leg turning gangrenous?
jdw |
04.19.08 - 12:31 am | #
I got to babysit!
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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04.19.08 - 12:31 am | #
So, neckbeard blogging beats PAPAL blogging? Atheists.
You'd be wise to adjust to future blog-huers...
Zap Rowsdower, aka Habeas |
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04.19.08 - 12:32 am | #
I'm now officially on weekend break and will not say anything even half intelligent. Burp.
Echidne |
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04.19.08 - 12:32 am | #
[/drunk sitting at the diner counter in "The Birds"]
You're more the "Their brain pans simply aren't large enough!" type.
The Kenosha Kid |
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04.19.08 - 12:32 am | #
Made all the worse with your insufferable attitude.
You know, I really wanted to think better of you than your 39 apologies run. But you really are a miserable twit. Buh bye.
sidhra صي ذ& |
04.19.08 - 12:32 am | #
nope. all the big city mayors endorsed obama, as did the majority of the newspapers.
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Yeah, because, after all, those things called "citizens" shouldn't have a say. "Of, by, and for the Mayors and Newspapers."
Elias |
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04.19.08 - 12:32 am | #
What burro?
Joe Scabrosaurus
from wet beavers to donkeys..
1Watt, Hermit |
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04.19.08 - 12:32 am | #
Back when I was talented, I played a gig with the guys from 'NomeansNo', but they dressed as and called themselves "The Hanson Brothers". Show of a lifetime.
Hee hee.
Slap Shot is very well done. Holds up excellently -- one of the best American movies, IMHO.
Thers |
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04.19.08 - 12:32 am | #
Holy jesus fucking christ this review of 300 by War Nerd Gary Brecher, our new hero who already agreed with us on all points of our glorious military wisdom and then conveted us to the V-22 (if you don't need that named you know what an accomplishment that is) while VTOL'ing off with our hearts, is fucking awesomely boss.
the goddamn k&y |
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04.19.08 - 12:32 am | #
I happened to hear Sean Hannity declare this afternoon on the radio that he doesn't read blogs. Very emphatic abt it.
I think that's an elitist attitude. He's happy to regurgitate news and angles these blogs come up with, but he'll leave it up to an assistant, I guess, to do the reading for him.
I think it's because Hannity thinks reading is for losers. Asshole assertion is for heroes like himself.
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04.19.08 - 12:32 am | #
They are completely out of touch with the American people. Conventional "wisdom" my ass.
Sadly, I think Obama will lose PA. Not by 20 or anything, but lose.
The best possible way to shut up the pundits would be an Obama victory.
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04.19.08 - 12:32 am | #
It's actually "running against the wind" but you wouldn't know that, effette coastal elite that you are.
Tlazolteotl | 04.19.08 - 12:29 am | # [kill][hide comment]
True, but you're forgetting the fifteen-minute coda where he shrieks like a constipated hyena about seein' the cowboys ride, ridin' against the wind.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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04.19.08 - 12:33 am | #
Hecate, are you now officially exhausted?
I saw Maddy today, and her daddy. And, believe it or not, Mlle.
She looks good.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
04.19.08 - 12:33 am | #
"She drove around Ohio in Ted Strickland's car."
yeah, she did have the gov, but the cities deliver the votes.
the biggest problem here, imo, was he had only two weeks to campaign, and that was split with texas.
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04.19.08 - 12:33 am | #
Slap Shot is very well done. Holds up excellently -- one of the best American movies, IMHO.
Thers
The Hanson Brothers!
attaturk |
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04.19.08 - 12:33 am | #
All those tulip growers in the Skagit Valley are fucked - seriously fucked. Why don't we kill the bees while we're at it.
Temps in eastern washington supposed to be around freezing overnight, just when the cherry/apple/pear/plum/etc. trees are blooming.
Tlazolteotl |
04.19.08 - 12:33 am | #
Watching Slap Shot -- this is a very good movie. Really very well done.
Thers
I consider it the best hockey movie ever made.
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04.19.08 - 12:33 am | #
ronjazz, how are your gorgeous and rapidly growing grandchildren?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 04.19.08 - 12:31 am | #
Exactly that, happy to say. Took grandson to Baltimore's National Aquarium on Monday last, great time was had. Lunch with grandaughter, son and my parents the week before, most excellent.
Thanks for asking. Fucking DWD never asks.
ronjazz |
04.19.08 - 12:34 am | #
You're a coddled coastal elitist who doesn't have the fine grasp of national politics that comes from listening to Bob Seger sing about "riding against the wind."
Phila, Pizen Sarpint
Erm...and which state did you move to again?
flory |
04.19.08 - 12:34 am | #
I consider it the best hockey movie ever made.
puppethead
you mean that emilio estevez movie?
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04.19.08 - 12:34 am | #
True, but you're forgetting the fifteen-minute coda where he shrieks like a constipated hyena about seein' the cowboys ride, ridin' against the wind.
You're right. I'm usually passed out before that part.
Tlazolteotl |
04.19.08 - 12:34 am | #
They are completely out of touch with the American people. Conventional "wisdom" my ass.
Media elite-so true
MSM Inc. |
04.19.08 - 12:34 am | #
Jesues, Mary, Joseph? [makes sign of the cross]
The Wicked Witch is allowed to be near children?
Elias |
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04.19.08 - 12:34 am | #
The Hanson Brothers!
They RULE!
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
04.19.08 - 12:35 am | #
Watching Slap Shot -- this is a very good movie.
You are Michael Bérubé and I claim my five pounds.
MikeJ |
04.19.08 - 12:35 am | #
"The best possible way to shut up the pundits would be an Obama victory."
Pundits are never silent - sharks gotta swim they gotta emit gas.
they stop bloviating they die
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
04.19.08 - 12:35 am | #
I only ask because New Jersey still wants Staten Island back. It is The Falklands on the Hudson.
Joe Scabrosaurus |
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04.19.08 - 12:36 am | #
Zapette's regaling me with stories of dealing with an "iron-monger" in Scotland.
I must sleep. Goodnight, all.
Zap Rowsdower, aka Habeas |
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04.19.08 - 12:36 am | #
When you lose Brighton Beach, you've lost Lancaster.
MP |
04.19.08 - 12:36 am | #
Took grandson to Baltimore's National Aquarium on Monday last
Ooooh. Very cool.
Tlazolteotl |
04.19.08 - 12:36 am | #
You know, I really wanted to think better of you than your 39 apologies run.
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It was 53, apologies, FIFTY THREE!!!
Elias |
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04.19.08 - 12:36 am | #
The talking assholes on Wash Week In Review were skewing things the same way. They know nothing
43 people watch that show.
And 37 of them work for the station.....
flory |
04.19.08 - 12:36 am | #
the best hockey movie ever made is Braveheart
euphronius |
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04.19.08 - 12:36 am | #
You left out the "stomps him into a fine pulp" part -fourlegsgood
I rather thought you would enjoy the whining and pleading and begging until the air ran out, but I guess it would be a shame to have the legs and all and not use them.
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04.19.08 - 12:36 am | #
He and Howie Mandel are about equally talented so...
attaturk |
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04.19.08 - 12:37 am | #
Sallyh,
Tired but happy. Glad you got to spend time w/ the fam. We watched Thomas the Tank Enging DVDs and Catch the Moon by Lisa Loeb, his new favorite.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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04.19.08 - 12:37 am | #
"Flogging Molly" is on the Jay Leno show.
The Kenosha Kid |
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04.19.08 - 12:37 am | #
I got to babysit!
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Have you given g/son the DFH t-shirt yet?
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04.19.08 - 12:37 am | #
I always figured that the ancestor of the Snake lady is Väinämöinen, (if he ever found a woman to make children with, that guy had terrible luck with the ladies).
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04.19.08 - 12:37 am | #
The best hockey movie ever made is George Stevens' Giant though there isn't actually any hockey in the film.
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray |
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04.19.08 - 12:38 am | #
He and Howie Mandel are about equally talented so...
Mandel can get the rubber glove off his head after inflating it. Bush would suffocate.
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04.19.08 - 12:38 am | #
Yeah. pretty terrible here. I guess we should all leave.
DWD | Homepage | 04.19.08 - 12:30 am | # [kill][hide comment]
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm telling you to do. You betcha.
I dunno...I guess I just can't share in the epiphany you've had about NAFTA being a bad thing...I can't quite wrap my little mind around it. Maybe a few more weeks of condescension and capitalism-for-dummies platitudes will help me to get it through my thick skull.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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04.19.08 - 12:38 am | #
EEEEWWWWWWWWWWWW Unnamed East Asian character totally macking on unnamed sarcastic aging white character just now on A Battlestar Named Desire...
the goddamn k&y |
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04.19.08 - 12:38 am | #
The redbud trees bloomed last night, was cool & rainy this morn. the hills looked purple.
1Watt, Hermit |
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04.19.08 - 12:38 am | #
if BHO wins PA outright - which i doubt - it will be one of the more amazing political stories in american history.
euphronius |
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04.19.08 - 12:38 am | #
"Flogging Molly" is on the Jay Leno show.
The Kenosha Kid | Homepage | 04.19.08 - 12:37 am | #
Can't stand Leno, maybe Thers will live-blog.
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04.19.08 - 12:38 am | #
they stop bloviating they die
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
Good riddance.
Duane V, Bitter Classist |
04.19.08 - 12:38 am | #
I rather thought you would enjoy the whining and pleading and begging until the air ran out, but I guess it would be a shame to have the legs and all and not use them.
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You're referring to an individual who can't chew gum without reading directions.
Elias |
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04.19.08 - 12:38 am | #
I always figured that the ancestor of the Snake lady is Väinämöinen, (if he ever found a woman to make children with, that guy had terrible luck with the ladies).
They didn't have cameras then, but I think I'm from the Lemminkainen line because he was sexy.
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04.19.08 - 12:38 am | #
"Good riddance."
well yeah but don't plan on it
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04.19.08 - 12:39 am | #
K & Y
i guarantee at the end of the episode you will say:
1. No Sexism.
2. No Racism.
3. No parroting of MSM/Wingnut bullshit.
This we march to?
Parrot bullshit is hard to give up, cold turkey.
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QuentinCompson, Negatory |
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04.19.08 - 12:39 am | #
Baltimore's National Aquarium
That's a v. good aquarium. And, then, since you're in Harbor Place, you can go eat crabcakes!
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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04.19.08 - 12:39 am | #
Now I'm out of here, I've got planes to create.
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04.19.08 - 12:40 am | #
Michael Kinsley is on the Charlie Rose show. Long time no see.
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QuentinCompson, Negatory |
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04.19.08 - 12:40 am | #
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray
SILENCE! The best hockey movie is Last Year at Marienbad, where the hockey is implied but never shown.
the goddamn k&y |
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04.19.08 - 12:40 am | #
Yeah, I found it interesting that when the Wicked Witch was alone in her room in Philly, she didn't have a problem referring to me by my real name.
Elias |
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04.19.08 - 12:40 am | #
Gene Simonetti, 83, slumped quietly in his chair at the South Side Senior Center as a group of Kennedys and local politicians shook hands and chatted with seniors about voting for Illinois Sen. Barack Obama.
Then the group singing started.
Mr. Simonetti pumped his fist, puffed out his chest and put his arm around Ethel Kennedy, 80, Robert F. Kennedy’s widow, as he bellowed “America the Beautiful.”
“I told Mrs. Kennedy, if I was two years younger, I’d hit on her,” he said.
Mrs. Kennedy was the headliner for a caravan of Kennedys, young and old, who jaunted through the Scranton area Thursday.
It was the first time Mrs. Kennedy had been on the campaign trail in 40 years, but she came to Pennsylvania after her 80th birthday this weekend to campaign for Mr. Obama.
“It’s very much the same,” she said about campaigning. “It’s nice to see the face of America.”
She shook hands, patted backs, sang songs and changed into sneakers after nine hours of campaigning.
Starting at 5:30 a.m., they piled into their Escalades and sedans: Mrs. Kennedy; her daughter, Rory; her son, Max, with his wife, Vicky, and daughters, Summer and Noah; Lackawanna County Commissioners Mike Washo and Corey O’Brien; Pat Casey, brother of Sen. Bob Casey Jr.; and actor Joe Pantoliano.
They visited about seven diners and Dunkin’ Donuts shops in Moosic, Scranton and Dunmore before they arrived at the South Side Senior Center.One woman in a wheelchair explained to Mrs. Kennedy that she once drove through a red light to see her husband, Bobby.
“Well, I went through a red light to see Sen. Obama,” replied Mrs. Kennedy, as she began to walk to the next, but certainly not the last, stop for the day.
They bring back 3? They're showing an awful lot of 3 in the flashbacks considering they done killed all of her...
the goddamn k&y |
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04.19.08 - 12:42 am | #
You're right. I'm usually passed out before that part.
Tlazolteotl | 04.19.08 - 12:34 am | # [kill][hide comment]
Sounds like you need to start workin' and practicin' on the night moves. Night moves! Workin' on the night moves! Gaaaaah! Night moves, night moves! Arrrgh! Workin' on the, workin' on the, workin' and practicin'! Night moves! Arrrrrgh!
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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04.19.08 - 12:42 am | #
No one ever didn't shoot hockey like Kurosawa.
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray |
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04.19.08 - 12:42 am | #
Have you given g/son the DFH t-shirt yet?
Oh, yeah, I gotta get a picture of him in it: he wears it to daycare and tells them: My Nonna got me this hippy shirt.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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04.19.08 - 12:42 am | #
That's a v. good aquarium. And, then, since you're in Harbor Place, you can go eat crabcakes!
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 04.19.08 - 12:39 am | #
My wife and I always have a very difficult time ordering fish after a visit to an aquarium. Besides, I'd really have to head to Bertha's for mussels and crabcakes. I can state categorically that the cafe at the Baltimore aquarium truly sucks out loud.
ronjazz |
04.19.08 - 12:42 am | #
if BHO wins PA outright - which i doubt - it will be one of the more amazing political stories in american history.
euphronius
Why? Because all the beltway bloviators didn't see it coming? What exactly have they been right about, lately? Obama has been consistently gaining in the polls in Pennsylvania lately..Every time Hillary went negative, it hurt her and helped Obama. If this latest backlash to the MSM assault on Obama in the Philadelphia debate is any indicator, Obama will win Pennsylvania.
Duane V, Bitter Classist |
04.19.08 - 12:42 am | #
Its been all downhill since.
left field, 99.9% dirty hippie |
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04.19.08 - 12:43 am | #
K&Y
watertiger would rip meh balls off if i leaked a spolierz.
euphronius |
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04.19.08 - 12:43 am | #
Hecate, Maddy will be 2 on May 17th. She no longer looks like a baby. she's getting to be such a big girl!
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
04.19.08 - 12:43 am | #
Hecate
whenever you are looking for a babysitting gig in sunny Florida we are always available.
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari |
04.19.08 - 12:43 am | #
Maybe it was because she was lonely and a little tipsy.
Elias |
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04.19.08 - 12:43 am | #
Exactly why the conventional wisdom on Pennsylvania should be disputed. People are more pissed off at McCain and Clinton's pandering than they are by Obama, who is finally acknowledging their concerns.
Duane V, Bitter Classist | 04.19.08 - 12:26 am | #
The strange about this is Obama's 'bitter' comment was his explanation as to why he doesn't get a higher percentage of working class votes. His explanation was that they are bitter and cling to religion and guns and anti-immigration and intolerance of people who are different. The last two items are deliberately omitted in the reporting so he is able to explain it as he meant the working class is bitter about the economy, which has nothing to do with why more of them aren't voting for him. He wasn't 'acknowledging their concerns', he was saying that they are too intolerant and bitter to vote for HIM.
yellow dog dem |
04.19.08 - 12:43 am | #
Hockey looks fun to play, but I'd much be an NFL safety and knock the grandmother out of a wide receiver coming across my lane.
MP |
04.19.08 - 12:43 am | #
Obama will get Philadelphia, he'll get Pittsburgh, and he'll win in between. People remember who is responsible for NAFTA.
Duane V, Bitter Classist |
04.19.08 - 12:44 am | #
What's all this about a Paypal Visit? They make housecalls? Ooh, maybe they're gonna deliver that chrome plated cheese straightener I won on ebay...
Meanie-meanie, tickle a person |
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04.19.08 - 12:44 am | #
watertiger would rip meh balls off if i leaked a spolierz.
euphronius |
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04.19.08 - 12:44 am | #
The talking assholes on Wash Week In Review were skewing things the same way. They know nothing
That guy on Maher tonight went out into PA and talked to those "small town" guys.
All of them, and I mean all of them, were for Obama.
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter |
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04.19.08 - 12:44 am | #
SILENCE! The best hockey movie is Last Year at Marienbad, where the hockey is implied but never shown.
the goddamn k&y | Homepage | 04.19.08 - 12:40 am | # [kill]
Deleuze proved that that's actually about water polo.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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04.19.08 - 12:45 am | #
I'm starting to dread Tuesday. My plan is to stay TV free until 5:01pm.
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray |
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04.19.08 - 12:45 am | #
mrs. i,
If I'm ever down that way, I'd love to! How are the bebbies?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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04.19.08 - 12:45 am | #
has nothing to do with why more of them aren't voting for him. He wasn't 'acknowledging their concerns', he was saying that they are too intolerant and bitter to vote for HIM.
yellow dog dem
Wrong. They ARE voting for him. And he WAS simply acknowledging their concerns.
Duane V, Bitter Classist |
04.19.08 - 12:46 am | #
dan haren is a better pitcher than me. damn.
euphronius |
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04.19.08 - 12:46 am | #
I'd much be an NFL safety and knock the grandmother out of a wide receiver coming across my lane.
MP
I dunno, that sounds very much like a hockey move...
Meanie-meanie, tickle a person |
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04.19.08 - 12:46 am | #
Parrot bullshit is hard to give up, cold turkey.
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QuentinCompson, Negatory
Oh, yeah, I gotta get a picture of him in it: he wears it to daycare and tells them: My Nonna got me this hippy shirt.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Heh.
I like this kid.
What did Son and DIL say when you told them what it stood for?
flory |
04.19.08 - 12:46 am | #
All of them, and I mean all of them, were for Obama.
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter
Yes. White, working class biker types. Just like here in Maine.
Duane V, Bitter Classist |
04.19.08 - 12:47 am | #
All of them, and I mean all of them, were for Obama.
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What's the spin for Tuesday night if Hillary wins?
"It wasn't by enough?"
"It doesn't matter?"
"She should drop out?"
All the usual suspects?
Elias |
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04.19.08 - 12:47 am | #
All of them, and I mean all of them, were for Obama.
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter
One of the networks did a news piece tonight on how Allentown is shifting heavily for Obama, not the Hillary-favoring place it was ten years ago.
puppethead |
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04.19.08 - 12:47 am | #
Elizabeth is one on Sunday. One Year Old!
time flies when you are having fun.
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari |
04.19.08 - 12:48 am | #
I'd much be an NFL safety and knock the grandmother out of a wide receiver coming across my lane.
MP
I dunno, that sounds very much like a hockey move...
Meanie-meanie, tickle a person
They beat up grandmothers in hockey? ... Parrots, hockey, DFHs... what is this world coming to?
ellroon bitterful |
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04.19.08 - 12:48 am | #
What did Son and DIL say when you told them what it stood for?
They laughed; DiL said his teachers wouldn't be surprised; they know them pretty well!
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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04.19.08 - 12:48 am | #
All of them, and I mean all of them, were for Obama.
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter
I hope they have a lot of friends.
sidhra صي ذ& |
04.19.08 - 12:48 am | #
The pucks skids away from the stick, the stick that speeds to the net without ever reaching it, the net that always remains apart from the walls, the walls that always line the ice, the ice that was there last summer...
the goddamn k&y |
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04.19.08 - 12:49 am | #
One of the networks did a news piece tonight on how Allentown is shifting heavily for Obama, not the Hillary-favoring place it was ten years ago.
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You mean, Obama*
*without Florida or Michigan.
Elias |
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04.19.08 - 12:49 am | #
mrs. i,
One? How did that happen?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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04.19.08 - 12:49 am | #
That guy on Maher tonight went out into PA and talked to those "small town" guys.
Jeremy Skahill, the author of the book on Blackwater.
Duane V, Bitter Classist |
04.19.08 - 12:50 am | #
I hope they have a lot of friends.
It was bikers and guys from a gun range.
Cracked me right up.
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter |
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04.19.08 - 12:50 am | #
jeremy scahill is awesome.
euphronius |
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04.19.08 - 12:51 am | #
I consider it the best hockey movie ever made.
puppethead
In 1977, in the tv movie "The Deadliest Season," Michael Moriarty played a goonish hockey player who killed his best friend during the course of a game by spearing him. Meryl Streep played his wife. Pretty fair movie.
Bobby, Who ♥ Kucinich |
04.19.08 - 12:51 am | #
Obama*
*Florida and Michigan not included.
Elias |
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04.19.08 - 12:51 am | #
Hecate
I don't know. It seems like just yesterday we were spending the weekends at the beach with her, and now we are heading out to St. Augustine in the morning to celebrate with her visiting cousins.
I just can't fucking believe we made it this far. allahu ahkbar!
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari |
04.19.08 - 12:51 am | #
Annie just posted a video on her blog and the person matches ellroon's gravatar.
jrod |
04.19.08 - 12:52 am | #
One of the networks did a news piece tonight on how Allentown is shifting heavily for Obama, not the Hillary-favoring place it was ten years ago.
puppethead
Like I said, they remember who's responsible for NAFTA.
Duane V, Bitter Classist |
04.19.08 - 12:52 am | #
jeremy scahill is awesome.
euphronius
We owe him a lot for sounding the alarm.
ellroon bitterful |
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04.19.08 - 12:52 am | #
*Florida and Michigan not included.
Elias | Homepage | 04.19.08 - 12:51 am | #
Saying it again doesn't make it any less stupid or irrelevant.
ronjazz |
04.19.08 - 12:52 am | #
The latest Rasmussen Reports survey data show the race between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama is closer than ever in Pennsylvania.
The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey shows Hillary Clinton with 47 percent of the vote and Barack Obama with 44 percent.
The poll was conducted Thursday night, the night following a nationally televised debate between the candidates.
Last Monday, Clinton was leading Obama 50 percent to 41 percent in the Rasmussen data.
But according to the data, Obama’s support appears to be a bit softer than Clinton’s at this point in time.
Six percent of Obama voters said there’s a good chance they could change their mind before voting. Only 2 percent of Clinton supporters said the same.
Overall, with less than a week to go, 9 percent of Pennsylvania voters remain undecided, with 3 percent said there’s a good chance they will change their mind, and another 12 percet might change their mind.
Among those who are certain how they will vote, Clinton leads 53 percent to 47 percent.
The last line is the key to the primary, who shows up!
polls |
04.19.08 - 12:53 am | #
Elias is so stupid he has to make his points twice, in case his stupidity didn't come through clearly enough the first time.
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari |
04.19.08 - 12:53 am | #
They laughed; DiL said his teachers wouldn't be surprised; they know them pretty well!
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Heh.
Slowly the world is becoming a more welcoming place for us DFHs....
flory |
04.19.08 - 12:53 am | #
Annie just posted a video on her blog and the person matches ellroon's gravatar.
jrod
Should I be honored? Or irritated?
ellroon bitterful |
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04.19.08 - 12:53 am | #
They beat up grandmothers in hockey? ...
Cheese, they useta drag fans out on the ice and take turns bodycheckin' 'em till they put the glass up...
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04.19.08 - 12:54 am | #
Funny how Hillary is all worried about the voters in Florida and Michigan while she argues to the superdelegates that they should ignore the voters in all the other states.
Not too worried about disenfranchising us, is she?
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04.19.08 - 12:54 am | #
Cheese, they useta drag fans out on the ice and take turns bodycheckin' 'em till they put the glass up...
Meanie-meanie, tickle a person
Well, goodnight to you all. And may a pleasant tomorrow be yours.
sidhra صي ذ& |
04.19.08 - 12:55 am | #
Elias is so stupid he has to make his points twice, in case his stupidity didn't come through clearly enough the first time.
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I had to rework it. Second version is much more effective.
Obama, the * candidate.
*Florida and Michigan not included.
There. That should do.
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04.19.08 - 12:55 am | #
The pucks skids away from the stick, the stick that speeds to the net without ever reaching it, the net that always remains apart from the walls, the walls that always line the ice, the ice that was there last summer...
the goddamn k&y | Homepage | 04.19.08 - 12:49 am | # [kill]
You still don't get it. The nonpresence of hockey opens up a space in which the potential for water polo can be realized, thanks to the mobility of the immobilities on which the immobility of mobility must be predicated.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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04.19.08 - 12:56 am | #
4Legs, i luvs ur blog 2day. haz priddy kittehs, inkludg Maxx!
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
04.19.08 - 12:56 am | #
gn sidhra!
euphronius |
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04.19.08 - 12:56 am | #
Would like disenfrenchfries with that?
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04.19.08 - 12:57 am | #
Like I said, they remember who's responsible for NAFTA.
Duane V, Bitter Classist | 04.19.08 - 12:52 am | # [kill][hide comment]
NAFTA?
Never heard of it.
Or wait...it's something they put in shampoo, right?
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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04.19.08 - 12:58 am | #
No snow in my neck of the woods tonight:
You have palm trees? Wow. I've never seen one.
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04.19.08 - 12:58 am | #
Wrong. They ARE voting for him. And he WAS simply acknowledging their concerns.
[John Judis] To win in November, a Democratic presidential candidate has to carry most of the industrial heartland states that stretch from Pennsylvania to Missouri. That becomes even more imperative if a Democrat can't carry Florida -- and because of his relative weakness in South Florida, Obama is unlikely to do so against McCain. Ruy Teixeira and I have calculated that in the heartland states, a Democratic presidential candidate has to win 45 to 48 percent of the white working-class vote. In some states, like West Virginia and Kentucky, the percentage is well over a majority.
Some Democrats insist Obama need not worry about these states because he will be able to make up for a defeat in Ohio or even Pennsylvania with a victory in Virginia or Colorado. But in Virginia, McCain will be able to draw upon coastal suburbanites closely tied to the military. These voters backed Democrats like Chuck Robb and Jim Webb, who are both veterans, but they may not go for Obama. And in the Southwest, McCain will be able to challenge Obama among Hispanics. So to win in November, Obama will have to win almost all of these heartland states. Which is a problem, because even before he uttered his infamous words about these voters "clinging" to guns, religion, abortion and fears about free trade, Obama looked vulnerable in the region. A look at the white working class' relationship with earlier Democratic candidates underscores the various reasons why.
Many white working class voters in these states used to be loyal Democrats. The last two successful Democratic presidential candidates, Jimmy Carter in 1976 and Bill Clinton in 1992 and 1996, swept Ohio, West Virginia, Kentucky, Pennsylvania and Missouri. Many of these voters have always been highly patriotic, church-going hunters who were skeptical about the benefits of trade and immigration and -- what Obama did not mention -- black political assertiveness. But they still distrust Republicans as the defenders of business and look up to Democrats (or at least some Democrats) as being more in tune with average Americans like themselves.
Democrats have won over these voters when their advantage on the economy has come to the fore. And they've lost these voters when their positions on the economy -- or national security -- were not sufficiently compelling to overcome the Republican advantage on social issues like abortion, gay marriage or gun control. Why? Because with the exception of a few rabid single-issue voters, the white working class hasn't simply displaced its economic anxiety, or bitterness, onto God, guns, and gay marriage; they're actually quite concerned about the economy.
Historically, there are three circumstances in which Democrats have been able to win over these voters:
The Unacceptable Republican, The Acceptable Democrat, The Empathetic Democrat.
QuentinCompson, Negatory |
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04.19.08 - 12:58 am | #
i really need to read Infinite Jest again. soon.
euphronius |
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04.19.08 - 12:58 am | #
You still don't get it. The nonpresence of hockey opens up a space in which the potential for water polo can be realized, thanks to the mobility of the immobilities on which the immobility of mobility must be predicated.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint | Homepage | 04.19.08 - 12:56 am | #
You spent too much time with that stuff.
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04.19.08 - 12:58 am | #
.. year 2007 was important for al-Qaeda's development as several stand-alone Arab groups operating in Pakistan's tribal areas, including Libyans and Egyptians, either merged into al-Qaeda or made an alliance in which they would be subservient to al-Qaeda's command.
With al-Qaeda losing key members, a vacuum should have been created, but that did not happen, and another figure has emerged - Maulana Ilyas Kashmiri. He is a veteran fighter of the Kashmir struggle, groomed by Pakistan's Inter-Service Intelligence's India cell.
Islamabad's clampdown on activities in Kashmir and being arrested a few times disheartened Kashmiri, and he moved to the North Waziristan tribal area. He was soon followed by his diehard Punjabi colleagues and they made Afghanistan their new battlefield.
This year, a "crossbreed" of fighters - a combination of Arab command and that of Kashmiri, as well as an alliance with tribal warlord Baitullah Mehsud - is expected to spring some surprises in Afghanistan.
"The Taliban are tribal warriors. They only understand guerrilla operations as hit-and-run raids," a group leader for the Taliban-led spring offensive told Asia Times Online on the condition of anonymity.
1Watt, Hermit |
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04.19.08 - 12:58 am | #
4Legs, i luvs ur blog 2day. haz priddy kittehs, inkludg Maxx!
Thanks. I has pool pictures up nao 2
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter |
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04.19.08 - 12:58 am | #
They must be worried about water polo, all they talk about is the damn fountain freezing...
the goddamn k&y |
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04.19.08 - 12:59 am | #
as i said, this is an Obama town.
euphronius |
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04.19.08 - 1:02 am | #
They must be worried about water polo, all they talk about is the damn fountain freezing...
the goddamn k&y | Homepage | 04.19.08 - 12:59 am | # [kill]
That's Robbe-Grillet's influence. All his books are about water polo. Except "The Erasers," which is about lacrosse.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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04.19.08 - 1:02 am | #
Echidne, you've really never seen a palm tree?
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter |
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04.19.08 - 1:03 am | #
They only understand guerrilla operations as hit-and-run raids
Taco Jesus and Rice, that's like saying Jonas Salk is a limited doctor because he only sees medicine as a way of preventing or curing disease.
the goddamn k&y |
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04.19.08 - 1:03 am | #
Echidne, you've really never seen a palm tree?
Not in fleshspace, no. I've seen reindeer and wolves and bears, though.
Echidne |
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04.19.08 - 1:03 am | #
Overall, with less than a week to go, 9 percent of Pennsylvania voters remain undecided, with 3 percent said there’s a good chance they will change their mind, and another 12 percet might change their mind.
Among those who are certain how they will vote, Clinton leads 53 percent to 47 percent.
The last line is the key to the primary, who shows up!
polls
Yep, but don't forget, the polls have consistently failed to account for vast numbers of younger voters who have enthusiastically embraced Obama's campaign.
Duane V, Bitter Classist |
04.19.08 - 1:04 am | #
gn folks!!!!
K&Y, i hope BSG blew your minds.
euphronius |
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04.19.08 - 1:04 am | #
Im sure this record crowd was mentioned earlier, but WOW!
Fucking WOW is right.
35,000???
With Independence hall in the background, right where watertiger did a headstand!!
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter |
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04.19.08 - 1:04 am | #
You have palm trees? Wow. I've never seen one.
Echidne
They are messy, very prickly (don't hug them) and they burn like tiki torches in wild fires....
ellroon bitterful |
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04.19.08 - 1:05 am | #
With Independence hall in the background, right where watertiger did a headstand!! fourlegsgood
[quietly accepts status as chopped tofu]
JeffCO |
04.19.08 - 1:06 am | #
Who was live on the air at the Savoy Ballroom when Pearl Harbor was being bombed?
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04.19.08 - 1:06 am | #
Not in fleshspace, no. I've seen reindeer and wolves and bears, though.
Oh, so sad!!
I've seen reindeer, but not in the wild. Only in a zoo.
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter |
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04.19.08 - 1:06 am | #
You have palm trees? Wow. I've never seen one.
We had a big fat palm tree growing in our courtyard when I was a kid. When my parents cut it down, they found out it was home to millions of giant cockroaches.
I always wondered why we had so many of those fuckers in our house.
Harry Doghiney (D-TX) |
04.19.08 - 1:07 am | #
[quietly accepts status as chopped tofu]
Elitist. You're sposed to say chopped liver.
Echidne |
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04.19.08 - 1:07 am | #
With Independence hall in the background, right where watertiger did a headstand!! fourlegsgood
[quietly accepts status as chopped tofu]
And Jeffco!
(hey, I put UR pitcher up too ya noes)
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter |
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04.19.08 - 1:07 am | #
I've seen reindeer and wolves and bears, though.
A palm tree looks like a reindeer with green antlers.
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QuentinCompson, Negatory |
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04.19.08 - 1:07 am | #
Not too worried about disenfranchising us, is she?
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter
we're big fat meanies who deserve it.
our lines were longer and you admitted snickering.
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04.19.08 - 1:07 am | #
I've seen reindeer, but not in the wild. Only in a zoo.
My brother-in-law owns a herd of them. Mean fuckers.
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04.19.08 - 1:08 am | #
"Because with the exception of a few rabid single-issue voters, the white working class hasn't simply displaced its economic anxiety, or bitterness, onto God, guns, and gay marriage; they're actually quite concerned about the economy"
Which is why they, together with the youth vote, have embraced Obama.
Duane V, Bitter Classist |
04.19.08 - 1:08 am | #
A palm tree looks like a reindeer with green antlers.
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QuentinCompson, Negatory |
More like a polar bear's behind with wings...
ellroon bitterful |
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04.19.08 - 1:08 am | #
Elitist. You're sposed to say chopped liver. Echidne
I wouldn't eat that when I did eat manimals.
JeffCO |
04.19.08 - 1:08 am | #
we're big fat meanies who deserve it.
our lines were longer and you admitted snickering.
ErinPDX | 04.19.08 - 1:07 am | #
I am the evil empire after all.
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter |
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04.19.08 - 1:09 am | #
My brother-in-law owns a herd of them. Mean fuckers.
Echidne
You'd be pissed, too, if people thought your main reason for existence was to cart a fat guy all over kingdom come one night of the year....
ellroon bitterful |
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04.19.08 - 1:09 am | #
So how long until Clinton says, "STOP with the big rallies and meet me in Pittsburgh!!"
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter |
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04.19.08 - 1:09 am | #
I just heard the freecreditreport.com jingle, followed by "Viva Viagra."
Kill me now.
Harry Doghiney (D-TX) |
04.19.08 - 1:10 am | #
(hey, I put UR pitcher up too ya noes) fourlegsgood
I iz a pitcher plant!
JeffCO |
04.19.08 - 1:10 am | #
I just heard the freecreditreport.com jingle, followed by "Viva Viagra."
Kill me now.
Harry Doghiney (D-TX)
Hmmm... you think they're looking for a certain ... lift... to the market?
ellroon bitterful |
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04.19.08 - 1:11 am | #
With Independence hall in the background, right where watertiger did a headstand!!
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter
Heh.
She and JeffCo led the way.
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04.19.08 - 1:11 am | #
I just heard the freecreditreport.com jingle, followed by "Viva Viagra."
Kill me now.
Arrrrgh.
I'm sorry, but what the hell do you guys with kids do when kids are in the room when one of those stupid "old men with flaccid dick fixer-upper" commercials comes on?'
Do they ask about them and what do you say?
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter |
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04.19.08 - 1:12 am | #
I am the evil empire after all.
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter | Homepage | 04.19.08 - 1:09 am | #
You don't have true evil empire creds until you have been banned at talkleft, corrente, and taylor marsh.
i just have not been willing to dive into taylor marsh's horror blog.
rootless-e |
04.19.08 - 1:12 am | #
Do they ask about them and what do you say?
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter
Imagine being a little boy and having to worry about limpdick from the age of 5......
flory |
04.19.08 - 1:13 am | #
Which is why they, together with the youth vote, have embraced Obama.
Duane V, Bitter Classist
I don't recall this happening in any of the 30 primaries so far. Do you have a link?
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QuentinCompson, Negatory |
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04.19.08 - 1:14 am | #
Wait. Not even anti-white racism? What are you, anti-Jeremiah White?
MemEmEme |
04.19.08 - 1:14 am | #
You don't have true evil empire creds until you have been banned at talkleft, corrente, and taylor marsh.
I haven't been to talk left in weeks.
They've gone wompy over there.
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter |
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04.19.08 - 1:14 am | #
troops being hung out to dry:
BAGHDAD — Three weeks after U.S. troops were ordered into the sprawling Shiite Muslim slum of Sadr City to stop rockets from raining down on the U.S. Embassy compound in Baghdad's Green Zone, they're caught in crossfire between Shiite militiamen and the mostly Shiite Iraqi army.
American soldiers who try to move around this urban area, even in the U.S. Army's state-of-the-art Stryker armored vehicles, risk being ambushed. The soldiers in a platoon from the 25th Infantry Division quickly learned that holding a position puts them in the line of fire from both the Mahdi Army militia and the U.S.-backed Iraqi forces.
The American soldiers can't go on the offensive from the run-down two-story house they commandeered in south Sadr City, but must hunker down and wait to get shot at.
An Iraqi family evacuated the house just before the fighting started. It has rats and clogged toilets but no electricity or hot water, and no air conditioning or heating. The American soldiers have had one shower and barely a change of clothes since they got here.
1Watt, Hermit |
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04.19.08 - 1:15 am | #
Do they ask about them and what do you say?
We have come across this complaint so often, and there doesn't seem to be a good answer.
the goddamn k&y |
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04.19.08 - 1:16 am | #
i thought i knew some US history, but never knew about this decision
HA! My enemies are *fucked* now that I made this blog post. Stupid enemies.
Thers |
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04.19.08 - 1:17 am | #
Do they ask about them and what do you say?
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter
believe it or not, we've gone with Dr. Spock, who advises you tell kids what they can handle processing at a given age. My kids were about 6-7 when clenis got the bj. Now we all snicker together, but at the time i told them he went out with another woman and that's not cool. Period. no other explanation and they went back to playing basketball and video games.
ErinPDX |
04.19.08 - 1:18 am | #
Do they ask about them and what do you say?
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter
My kids now look at me suspiciously when I take a deep breath because I've talked them to death about sex and sexuality from their early years.
I'm afraid I believe in more information rather than less....
ellroon bitterful |
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04.19.08 - 1:18 am | #
i thought i knew some US history, but never knew about this decision
My kids now look at me suspiciously when I take a deep breath because I've talked them to death about sex and sexuality from their early years.
IIRC, that was all covered in the classic James and the Giant Necrophiliac.
JeffCO |
04.19.08 - 1:22 am | #
NO BITEY!!
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter |
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04.19.08 - 1:22 am | #
yar. 1st year con law case in law school.
CJ Roberts stays up late planning exciting new applications for late-19th century civil rights precedents.
Harry Doghiney (D-TX) |
04.19.08 - 1:22 am | #
I Support Elias.
So there, elitists.
Ali, now a habs fan |
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04.19.08 - 1:23 am | #
yar. 1st year con law case in law school.
euphronius | Homepage | 04.19.08 - 1:19 am | #
A decision scalia could be proud of. Harlan's dissent is impressive, but did not stand a chance against the eagerness of the court majority to dismiss the explicit language of the amendment to create a fictitious basis for their nasty bit of legislating.
rootless-e |
04.19.08 - 1:24 am | #
IIRC, that was all covered in the classic James and the Giant Necrophiliac.
JeffCO
Eek!... I talked... I didn't use illustrations....
ellroon bitterful |
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04.19.08 - 1:25 am | #
Thers, what the hell are you talking about?
My screenplay about the early years of blogs, which I know one day will be appreciated on the same level as Krush Groove.
Thers |
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04.19.08 - 1:25 am | #
Holy crap.
BS Galatica is freaking me out.
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter |
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04.19.08 - 1:26 am | #
explicit language of the law?? lol. conservatives dont care bout that.
euphronius |
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04.19.08 - 1:26 am | #
An Iraqi family evacuated the house just before the fighting started. It has rats and clogged toilets but no electricity or hot water, and no air conditioning or heating. The American soldiers have had one shower and barely a change of clothes since they got here.
Y'know, it's not the americans I'm feeling sorry for at this point.
Ali, now a habs fan |
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04.19.08 - 1:26 am | #
A decision scalia could be proud of.
Had an interesting conversation today with a quasi-wingnut law student who recently met Scalia at a school function. He's a fan of Scalia's "jurisprudence," but he said Scalia turned out to be ingracious and an enormous asshole in person.
He also said Scalia appears old in person and even a bit infirm.
Harry Doghiney (D-TX) |
04.19.08 - 1:26 am | #
If only Richard Nixon could be here to see what's going on today.
Hey, that's not something you hear very often.
MP |
04.19.08 - 1:27 am | #
My screenplay about the early years of blogs, which I know one day will be appreciated on the same level as Krush Groove.
Fuck that. No way it's as good as Chickasaurus Rex.
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter |
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04.19.08 - 1:27 am | #
Her new trick, try to bite my glasses.
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter
It's that or ur ankles.
Ur choice.
flory |
04.19.08 - 1:27 am | #
its allright. equal protection does the samething privliges and immunities would have done
euphronius |
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04.19.08 - 1:28 am | #
BS Galatica is freaking me out.
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter
whoever said it wuz dark tonite wuz right....
flory |
04.19.08 - 1:28 am | #
flory and sallyh, you have to come up here on 9/6.
ErinPDX |
04.19.08 - 1:29 am | #
He's a fan of Scalia's "jurisprudence," but he said Scalia turned out to be ingracious and an enormous asshole in person.
Gee, imagine that. Scalia an asshole.
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter |
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04.19.08 - 1:29 am | #
BSG is excellent tonight
euphronius |
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04.19.08 - 1:29 am | #
He also said Scalia appears old in person and even a bit infirm.
Just wanted to see that again.
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QuentinCompson, Negatory |
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04.19.08 - 1:30 am | #
MEDIA, Pennsylvania (AP) -- To bisect the heart of the Democratic presidential contest, take the Chester exit of I-95 and wend your way to the Pennsylvania Turnpike. If Sen. Barack Obama has any chance of cultivating an upset on April 22, this 20-mile stretch is fertile land.
These are Philadelphia's western suburbs -- a patchwork of charming small towns, elite colleges and working class neighborhoods that constitute one of the most competitive political battlegrounds in the state.
"It is, without question, right at the center of the fight for Pennsylvania," said Rep Joe Sestak, D-Pennsylvania, the retired admiral who represents this district and who has endorsed Obama's rival, Sen. Hillary Clinton. "How my district goes is how the state may go."
Clinton holds a lead in statewide polls. But Obama is strongly favored in Philadelphia and polls show him holding a slight lead in the arc of four increasingly Democratic counties around the city.
Obama backers see hope in Democratic Gov. Ed Rendell's gubernatorial primary victory in 2002. Then, Rendell, a Philadelphian, carried the eight counties in the Philadelphia media market by a 4-1 margin. He only won two of the remaining 59 counties in the state, but it was enough to beat Democrat Robert Casey, now a U.S. senator.
"Sen. Obama can do the same thing, but needs to do better than the polls show him doing in the suburban counties," said Anthony Campisi, the first vice chair of the Delaware County Democratic Party and an Obama supporter.
"The polls show him in the low 50s. To build a big enough margin to carry the state his percentage needs to increase close to 55-60 percent."
Short of a win, Obama-backing strategists are looking to secure enough delegates to blunt Clinton's likely success statewide.
night owl |
04.19.08 - 1:30 am | #
flory and sallyh, you have to come up here on 9/6.
ErinPDX
Mebbe.
Dunno what I'll be doing that far in teh future......
flory |
04.19.08 - 1:31 am | #
Gee, imagine that. Scalia an asshole.
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter
And infirm? is this the neocon brain rot finally materializing?
ellroon bitterful |
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04.19.08 - 1:31 am | #
The ending was freaky.
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter |
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04.19.08 - 1:33 am | #
Gee, imagine that. Scalia an asshole.
My acquaintance expected Scalia to have a "judicial temperament" and was surprised to find him petty, defensive and mean.
Harry Doghiney (D-TX) |
04.19.08 - 1:33 am | #
Kara's a fracking bitch....
flory |
04.19.08 - 1:33 am | #
Oh, that was nice. Can't say it was a true surprise but they pulled it off beautifully, esp f/x (noises) -wise.
the goddamn k&y |
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04.19.08 - 1:33 am | #
My acquaintance expected Scalia to have a "judicial temperament" and was surprised to find him petty, defensive and mean.
Harry Doghiney (D-TX)
the goddamn k&y |
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04.19.08 - 1:36 am | #
My acquaintance expected Scalia to have a "judicial temperament" and was surprised to find him petty, defensive and mean.
Huh.
From his rulings I always thought he would be petty and mean.
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter |
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04.19.08 - 1:38 am | #
Nixon. So venal even the FBI wouldn't take him.
And Bush is worse.
baba durag |
04.19.08 - 1:38 am | #
Why you watch so much tv?
Ali, now a habs fan |
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04.19.08 - 1:38 am | #
What, I was the only one expecting a triple decker snowcone?
Well, if you recall the earlier character establishment, Tory's the icycoldest civilian in ALL OF HUMANITY.
the goddamn k&y |
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04.19.08 - 1:38 am | #
What, I was the only one expecting a triple decker snowcone?
I wuz too.
Was hoping she would pull it off. Being human sucks apparently.
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter |
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04.19.08 - 1:39 am | #
I saw the reply count at 666 and could not help myself..BWAHAHAHAH...Still recovering fromm the rebirth of the Weather Undeground. Digging a former Hitler Jugend Pope telling us he is proud of our faith....Ve have ways.
Texas Doc |
04.19.08 - 1:39 am | #
tory did the right thing. the baby iz too important
euphronius |
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04.19.08 - 1:40 am | #
n late 2006, Congress revised the Posse Comitatus Act and the Insurrection Act to make it far easier for a president to declare martial law. Those changes were repealed at the end of this January as part of Public Law 110-181 (HR 4986), the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008 (signed into law by President Bush on January 28, 200.
Senator Patrick Leahy (D-Vt), who championed the opposition to the original law, was also the hero of the repeal. It helped that all the nation’s governors opposed the 2006 law. http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008...-law-provision/
1Watt, Hermit |
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04.19.08 - 1:40 am | #
Well, if you recall the earlier character establishment, Tory's the icycoldest civilian in ALL OF HUMANITY.
Oh, true. Thought maybe the wife would suprise us.
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter |
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04.19.08 - 1:40 am | #
Nixon. So venal even the FBI wouldn't take him.
The FBI is all about venality and was far worse back then, under Hoover; if anything the Bureau sniffed a degree of spine and self-esteem that would interfere with the required total loyalty to J. Edgar.
the goddamn k&y |
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04.19.08 - 1:40 am | #
Why you watch so much tv? Ali
It's the only way I can keep myself from being too smart for my own good.
JeffCO |
04.19.08 - 1:41 am | #
tory iz also hawt as hell. dayum.
euphronius |
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04.19.08 - 1:42 am | #
Right. Nixon was a man with too much spine and self-esteem.
Where were you in the Nixon years?
baba durag |
04.19.08 - 1:43 am | #
It's the only way I can keep myself from being too smart for my own good.
I don't mind being too smart for my own good.
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter |
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04.19.08 - 1:44 am | #
have I made my point yet?
Duane V, Bitter Classist |
04.19.08 - 2:06 am | #
Happy Reading!
Duane V, Bitter Classist |
Thanks. Sorry that it wasn't more clear that I was referring to the white working class vote, which the referenced article was about. The first link to Time is about Yoots only and does not anywhere mention white working class.
The second link to Salon does not mention any primary. The third link to Huffnpuff similarly does not anywhere mention white working class.
So I would have to say that all three of those are 100% nonresponsive to:
Which is why they, together with the youth vote, have embraced Obama.
Duane V, Bitter Classist
I don't recall this happening in any of the 30 primaries so far. Do you have a link?
So let me clarify: is there a link to data etc. showing a primary where Obama carried more of the white working class vote than Hillary, as a minimum indication of "embrace Obama"? I call myself paying attention to that sort of shit and I simply do not recall it happening so far, but 30 primiaries have a lot of tabs etc.
The link would need to address at least one primary result and its white working class vote breakout, say by exit poll or whatever. And btw, that Jed Report link also does not anywhere mention the white working class. And thanks for the effort - if it has happened I would sure like to see it, because I may have missed something.
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QuentinCompson, Negatory |
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04.19.08 - 2:40 am | #
UPDATE: Yes, I mean YOU specifically
yeah, well, whatever YOU do - don't go out on a limb yourself with any specifics... tough guy.
Rule #1: there are no rules
rule #2: no outside food
tim |
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04.19.08 - 5:22 am | #
no racism? Oh, you mean like Jane Hamsher putting blackface on Joe Leiberman or Steve Gailliard calling Michael Steele "Sambo"- or no sexism, like all the ballbuster and bitch posts about Hillary Clinton by Obama lickspittles?
You mean like that?
jones |
04.19.08 - 6:11 am | #
1. No Sexism.
2. No Racism.
3. No parroting of MSM/Wingnut bullshit.
What are you, some kind of fag?
moron |
04.19.08 - 7:29 am | #
I'm glad to hear that Obama is a "populist liberal," whatever the fuck that means. How's that universal health care plan coming?
lambert strether |
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04.19.08 - 9:32 am | #
Thank you!!!
The fauxgressives are getting on my last nerve.
Susan |
04.19.08 - 12:30 pm | #
At some point, you get into 'you're either with us or against us' territory. At others, you get into 'my priorities matter, yours don't' territory. There's a reason lefties don't like ultimatums. They are bad for group cohesion.
Sexism is bad, but not everyone is going to agree on what counts as sexist and what doesn't. Remember 'periodically'? Racism is bad, but not everyone agrees with what is racist, just read MY's comments on the 'boy' remark. People who care about classism will be pissed that racism and sexism get special treatment, and will likely point to the fact that most bloggers are upper-class as a reason. Many gay-rights types will be upset that gender and race get this treatment, but the blogosphere will get behind dems who favor DOMA, while not even considering dems who oppose Abortion.
If you continue down this road, you make a party so narrow that it will have almost no adherents. If you do not, you grant some forms of bigotry an get out of jail free card. It would have been wise not to even start down it.
soullite |
04.19.08 - 1:51 pm | #
Ewww, soulite is now on Eschaton? Time to cancel my subscription. Apparrently, I am a racist in some narrowly, disagreeable undefined way.
uppity kitty |
04.19.08 - 6:30 pm | #