I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

GravatarNot cool.


GravatarI mean, if you're the rule maker, who rules the rule maker?


GravatarWow, a new thread!


GravatarRule 1: Don't talk about the rules.


Gravatar35,000 at an Obama rally today.

Fuck you, that's my name, McCain


GravatarEli Pariser:
Senator Clinton has her facts wrong again. MoveOn never opposed the war in Afghanistan, and we set the record straight years ago when Karl Rove made the same claim. Senator Clinton's attack on our members is divisive at a time when Democrats will soon need to unify to beat Senator McCain. MoveOn is 3.2 million reliable voters and volunteers who are an important part of any winning Democratic coalition in November. They deserve better than to be dismissed using Republican talking points.
http:// tpmelectioncentral.talkin...tely_blaste.php


Gravatar/throws out Newsmax link about how Thers is sexy


GravatarI mean, if you're the rule maker, who rules the rule maker?

Like you're not married...


Gravatar4. No BSG spoilerz


GravatarGOOD LUCK WITH THAT


Gravatari wwanted to go to the BHO rally. it was right outside meh borg.


GravatarHow about no assumption that respectable commentators are "in the tank" for a candidate? Exhibit A: Paul Krugman. There seems to be a discounting of his columns on the assumption he's pro-Hillary.


GravatarI'm only guilty of sexyism.
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GravatarFall 02, as a moveon volunteer i helped coordinate the presentation of 10,000 signatures to "let the inspections work" to Sen Smith, R, OR.

They had to have presented sigs to Sen. Clinton. Anybody know how that went?


GravatarWell, after way too much vino, I'm off to bed. See y'all in four or five hours...


GravatarNo flirting?

Apple Ibook G4 for $399

This Apple iBook G4 1.0 GHz notebook is looking for a good home. Pre-installed components include an Apple G4 1.0 GHz processor, 512 MB of RAM, a 30 GB hard drive, and an Airport Wireless card! The Apple iBook notebook has Mac OS X pre-installed and a CD-ROM drive ready to access media.


GravatarHeh. He forgot about flirting.


GravatarZap you were 100% right last night. ive seen the error of meh ways.


GravatarAnd poopy jokes.


GravatarLink for the Cheap Apple

http://www.geeks.com/details.asp...G410-1B& cat=SYS


GravatarRule #4: No :rocket:
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GravatarYour candidate sucks!


GravatarJesus. If only the world were nothing but rainbows and flowers!! This "idea" is too stupid to be on Atrios's blog. People disagree. Often they disagree about what constitutes racism, sexism, and/or "bullshit". Good god. I'm sure you and I would be on the same side of most topics, I'm pretty far leftist, but this is just stupifyingly idiotic. How old are you, 13?


GravatarRule #4: No :rocket:


BAN HIM!!!!


GravatarThese rules are great until someone offers him bacon.


GravatarThe first rule about Fight Club is you don't talk about Fight Club


GravatarWho wrote the them to the Odd Couple?


GravatarIt's a start, Thers...but what about making frequent references to Herbert Croly? David Brooks said a couple years back that it'd help our cause.


GravatarRule #69:

I couldn't think of one. I just wanted to claim rule 69.
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Gravatar#5: Gotta say "fuck" a lot.


GravatarUnless, of course, they're selling damaged copies as new,

I don't think they are doing that. I used to run a business from Montana, that about half was comprised of out of state shipping. I think I finally figured out how to get the packages to get to their destination without damage but this required me to ship as if the boxes were dropped out of orbit to the customer. The package handling standards for UPS and FedEx is that a package has to be able to withstand being dropped onto a concrete floor from about 6 feet, up to 20 times. This does not count the other damage that can occur due to lame-brained package handlers, doing things like stacking a load of steel on top of a package marked with the label, "fragile, contains glass and crystal".
Doug | 04.18.08 - 11:21 pm | #


Gravatar"The first rule about Fight Club is you don't talk about Fight Club"

Then how does anyone know to join?


GravatarLike you're not married...
Thers


I like the fact that you accept the world as it should be.


Gravatar
Then how does anyone know to join?


The glossy brochures.
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Gravatar3. No parroting of MSM/Wingnut bullshit.

"MSM" is the wingnut bullshit term for corporate media. They're the ones who started calling it "mainstream media".


GravatarI'm going out on a limb and then I'm going to bed:

What did Aryaan Hirsi Ali expect? I don't think Theo Van Gogh deserved to be murdered in the least, but you dealing with extremist. Their not known for thinking things through.


GravatarThis "idea" is too stupid to be on Atrios's blog.

This is just so...sincere. Hats off!


Gravatar...I did't think 13-Y.O.'s were allowed to have 237 children and whiskey-soaked bacon...

I am so out of touch...


GravatarKeep in mind that baggage handlers' nicknames for each other is "thrower".


GravatarDon't forget that MoveOn was formed to help the clenis. Thanks a bunch Senator Clinton.


GravatarLike you're not married...

Hmmm....you got me.


GravatarExhibit A: Paul Krugman. There seems to be a discounting of his columns on the assumption he's pro-Hillary.

Not knowing his reasons, I can't imagine why he's pro-Hillary.


GravatarMake all the rules you like and follow them to the letter.

Rule #4 in politics is never get caught breaking the rules.

Rule #5 is known as the Nixon or Watergate rule and you can probably figure it out from #4.


GravatarFuck that, you mick maven of masculine dominance. What about Vince Foster?


GravatarFor all you DFH's in Northeast Tennessee, assuming there are any:

***
Subject: Rob Russell fo Congress Fund-Festival Tomorrow Night!

Just a reminder: I'm having my first "Rob Russell for Congress" fundraiser -- a "Fund-Festival" of music -- tomorrow night at the Acoustic Coffeehouse's Next Door stage in Johnson City (415 W. Walnut St. - Johnson City, TN 37604) starting at 7 pm and ending around 11 pm. Hope you can make it -- and spread the word! = RR

Rob Russell
www.robrussellforcongress.com
rob@robrussellforcongress.com

***
I'll be the DFH playing guitar (and singing some) with the Bystanders. The other guitarist is Rob Russell himself.

No Democrat has won in that district since like 1832. But Rob just might do it!

I'd love to see you there! Peace.


Gravatar6.  No gratuitous Monty Python references.


GravatarI'm pretty far leftist, but this is just stupifyingly idiotic. How old are you, 13?

I'm pretty grateful that you're willing to share your thickness with the entire internet. It shows a lot of dedication!


GravatarIn participating in this blog over the past several years, I've found one commenter, whose grandfather was older than mine.

His grandfather was born in 1867.

Mine was born in 1872.


GravatarKrugman has always _always_ been pro free trade.


Gravatarni!


GravatarThe package handling standards for UPS and FedEx is that a package has to be able to withstand being dropped onto a concrete floor from about 6 feet, up to 20 times. This does not count the other damage that can occur due to lame-brained package handlers, doing things like stacking a load of steel on top of a package marked with the label, "fragile, contains glass and crystal".
Doug | 04.18.08 - 11:21 pm | #


I've been selling books and records internationally for the last 25 years, and my stuff has never gotten damaged in transit.

What really pisses me off is that I actually sell through Amazon, and their standards for "proper" packing for independent sellers are actually more stringent than their own.

Plus, I like how when I get a book from them that's damaged, I need to describe that damage if I later decide to sell it on their site, instead of trying to pass it off as new. Such a deal!


Gravatar7. Topless gravatars are welcome

(Does that violate rule #1?)
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Gravatar6. No gratuitous Monty Python references.
watertiger


7. No zombie jokes.


GravatarKrugman isn't pro-Hillary, but he is pro-Schumer.


Gravatarhahahaha! You realize you're in America, right?


Gravatarlong but interesting (not as interesting as bacon on a kaiser):

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Glo...y/ JD17Dj05.html


GravatarAnd now for something different...

http://www.buzzfeed.com/buzz/ Abd...dominal_Etching


GravatarThis is the only place the wingnut talking points ever get adequately and punctually answered.


Gravatar7. No zombie jokes.

Yeah!

What if some of the rules conflict with one another? Will there be a governing body that decides? And what will she be wearing?
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Gravatar6. No gratuitous Monty Python references.

Is there such a thing as a non-gratuitous MP reference?


Gravatar7. Topless gravatars are welcome

(Does that violate rule #1?)
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William H. Rehnquist


Not if you include both genders....


GravatarJust to clarify:

I think speaking out against any type of extremism is brave, but let's not be naive to think they would not be upset by what you said. Half of the time I post here I expect to be attacked (albeit not to death). Let's not be naive about consequences is my point.


GravatarThis is the only place the wingnut talking points ever get adequately and punctually answered.
orr | 04.18.08 - 11:30 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]
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the collective knowledge of this site could at LEAST make Jeopardy Tournament of Champions.


GravatarThis is your moment Arthur Pewtey


Gravatar9. No Psychiatrists


Gravatar7. Phila needs to be louder, angrier, and have access to a time machine.

8. Whenever Phila's not onscreen, all the other commenters should be asking "Where's Phila?"


GravatarPS:

BSG was pretty dark.


Gravatar#457: No flirting.


GravatarIs there such a thing as a non-gratuitous MP reference?
Zap Rowsdower


there was once, but it is no more, it has ceased to be


Gravatarmoi! you could possible mean moi!


Gravatar
Not if you include both genders....


Oh, I hadn't thought about that. I suppose women could have topless gravatars as well. I was actually referring to a gravatar I was planning where I let my moobs run free.
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GravatarExhibit A: Paul Krugman. There seems to be a discounting of his columns on the assumption he's pro-Hillary.

I don't know if he's pro-Hillary or not, but today's column pissed me off. The fact that the median income in PA may have gone up in the 90s has nothing to do with how many small towns were decimated by job losses and economic decay.

He's an economist. He knows better and yet he used income statistics what can only have been a deliberately misleading way.
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Gravatar#457(a) Changed my mind. More flirting.


Gravatar8. Whenever Phila's not onscreen, all the other commenters should be asking "Where's Phila?"
Phila, Pizen Sarpint | Homepage | 04.18.08 - 11:32 pm | #

If you weren't absent so much, you'd see that this rule is unnecessary. We may need a rule to address the "aw fuck, is he still here?" posts, though.


Gravatarwow - I just noticed Vladimir Guerrero doesn't wear batting gloves - ouchy


GravatarHis grandfather was born in 1867.

b.1865. d. 1942


GravatarBSG was pretty dark.
Monica_A: Dammit!


Y'know...when you add up all the collective 'noncomments' about BSG tonite, those of us who haven't seen it can get a pretty good idea of what happens.

Just sayin.......


Gravatar
8. Whenever Phila's not onscreen, all the other commenters should be asking "Where's Phila?"



Who's Phila?


GravatarAnd it's an awesome idea. Gonna take some serious enforcement, though.

It will be especially hard to combat the third one. People unknowingly sink into it without paying attention.

Which brings me to tonight's example of media bias. From the "with friends like this you don't need enemies department."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/ ne...1,1761868.story

Did this putz ever hear of the Vitter Amendment, the single most important piece of gun rights legislation of recent years, preventing the government from taking your guns away from you in an emergency?

Obama supported it. Some gun owners groups that are not part of the GOP internal command structure have endorsed him for it. But does Oliphant care?


GravatarY'know...when you add up all the collective 'noncomments' about BSG tonite, those of us who haven't seen it can get a pretty good idea of what happens.

Just sayin.......
flory | 04.18.08 - 11:34 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]

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no. you have no idea.


GravatarOh, I hadn't thought about that. I suppose women could have topless gravatars as well. I was actually referring to a gravatar I was planning where I let my moobs run free.
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William H. Rehnquist | 04.18.08 - 11:32 pm


Zombie Moobs!


GravatarI don't know if he's pro-Hillary or not, but today's column pissed me off.

Let's not forget that Krugman is not too far removed from his "free trade can do no wrong" days.
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GravatarY'know...when you add up all the collective 'noncomments' about BSG
tonite, those of us who haven't seen it can get a pretty good idea of
what happens.


[glares at Euphronius]


GravatarWhat's the best way to bid on an ebay auction? Does everybody slip in a final bid at the last minute?


GravatarHe's an economist. He knows better and yet he used income statistics what can only have been a deliberately misleading way.
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Sparkle Plenty | 04.18.08 - 11:32 pm | #


when bill gates walks into a bar, average wealth increases.
Classical and neo-classical economists expect the other drunks to be grateful.


GravatarWhat's the best way to bid on an ebay auction? Does everybody slip in a final bid at the last minute?
marcia


rule #4?


GravatarWouldn't an auction be more optimal if you knew what others were bidding?


GravatarRule #57: Visit my blog

(link may contain joke stolen from Watertiger without so much as a hat tip)


Gravatari shut up! i didnt say anything!


Gravatarhas nothing to do with how many small towns were decimated by job losses and economic decay.

my childhood county, big time


GravatarY'know...when you add up all the collective 'noncomments' about BSG tonite, those of us who haven't seen it can get a pretty good idea of what happens.

Anya was killt! I have a theory ...


GravatarWhat's the best way to bid on an ebay auction? Does everybody slip in a final bid at the last minute?
marcia


A study was done and it showed that people who bid before the last minutes end up driving the price up. It's best to hold off as long as possible.


GravatarKrugman isn't pro-Hillary, but he is pro-Schumer.
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari


Pretty much the same difference.


Gravatarwow - I just noticed Vladimir Guerrero doesn't wear batting gloves -

Well, not on his hands anyway. If you know what I mean.
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GravatarMarcia, I don't if there hasn't been any action up until then. But I watch it like a hawk if there have been several bids.


Gravatarnot my favorite krugs column.


GravatarWATERTIGER!

I need to send you A VERY IMPORTANT EMAIL.


Gravatarwow - I just noticed Vladimir Guerrero doesn't wear batting gloves -

Well, not on his hands anyway. If you know what I mean.
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William H. Rehnquist


so *that's* flea's real name...


GravatarUPDATE: Yes, I mean YOU specifically.

Crap. I'm busted.


GravatarWhat's the best way to bid on an ebay auction? Does everybody slip in a final bid at the last minute?
marcia


Depends what the item is. But if it's sought after, people may have automatic bidding set up for 30 seconds or so before it closes. You can still beat 'em, but you usually need to have a couple windows open and ready to go.


GravatarY'know...when you add up all the collective 'noncomments' about BSG tonite, those of us who haven't seen it can get a pretty good idea of what happens.

Just sayin.......
flory


...I actually wrote about rule #943 being a prohibition of quasi-liveblogging BSG episodes that others can't see at the same time, then I deleted it...


GravatarFourth rule: No telling other people what they can write on their blogs.


Gravatarsidhra, no shit, are you actucally claiming the oldest Eschaton grandfather?

You realize, that 1865 is a big thing to do.


GravatarWhat's the best way to bid on an ebay auction? Does everybody slip in a final bid at the last minute?
marcia


Yes.
And wait til GWPDA is around and ask that question.
She is the queen of eBay.


GravatarBut, I can still use the "F" word, right?


GravatarIt's best to hold off as long as possible.

The other rule is to decide before hand how much the item is worth to you, and not ever bid higher than that.

I never bid at the last moment myself, prefering instead to bid a low price and hoping others don't find this item.


GravatarMatthews: Obama "can't walk into a dinette with five or six guys there, white guys, in some cases ... He can't just shake hands and hang out"

That Obama fellow sure is one uppity negro, eh, Matthews?


GravatarRule #9: Head on over to Swan's blog
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Gravatarwow - I just noticed Vladimir Guerrero doesn't wear batting gloves -

Well, not on his hands anyway. If you know what I mean.
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William H. Rehnquist | 04.18.08 - 11:36 pm | #

and his pants fit like a glove...


Gravatar"But, I can still use the "F" word, right?"

why the fuck not?


GravatarI'm afraid people just aren't taking rule 57 seriously enough.


Gravatar
(link may contain joke stolen from Watertiger without so much as a hat tip)


it's alright.  i still owe you from that dinner.


GravatarHere's an article on the benefits of late bidding that refers to the study I mentioned.


Gravatarwhite guys, in some cases

Display cases?


GravatarTHERS!

I AM AT MY COMPUTER, AWAITING YOUR VERY IMPORTANT EMAIL!



GravatarHere's an article on the benefits of late bidding that refers to the study I mentioned.
puppethead | Homepage | 04.18.08 - 11:40 pm | #

this isn't helping me to grok BSG.


GravatarI'm afraid people just aren't taking rule 57 seriously enough.

What do I have to do?


Gravatar"Matthews: Obama "can't walk into a dinette with five or six guys there, white guys, in some cases ... He can't just shake hands and hang out"

ok - did he really say this? he's capable, no doubt but did he?


Gravatar"I'm afraid people just aren't taking rule 57 seriously enough.

What do I have to do?"

Invoke rule 303?

nah we be librulz


Gravatar"But, I can still use the "F" word, right?"

why the flower not?
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher


Sorry...


Gravatarforty years ago, Matthews' sentence would have ended after the word 'dinette'


Gravatarok - did he really say this? he's capable, no doubt but did he?

Yes.  Yes, he did.


Gravatar What do I have to do?

Your perfunctory comment fulfilled your obligation.


Gravatarok - did he really say this? he's capable, no doubt but did he?

In abiding by Rule 57, I found the quote at the linked blog.


Gravatar
I AM AT MY COMPUTER, AWAITING YOUR VERY IMPORTANT EMAIL!


EXCELLENT!

I AM GETTING READY TO SEND IT NOW!

BE ALERT!


GravatarMatthews is being unfair. You really can't fit more than 5 or 6 guys into a dinette.


Gravatar"why the flower not?
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher

Sorry..."

aw fuck....


GravatarGeez, I hope Obama wins in PA. That would be a sublime surprise.


Gravatar"He's an economist. He knows better and yet he used income statistics what can only have been a deliberately misleading way.
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Sparkle Plenty"

Krugman "used income statistics" in a "deliberately misleading way"

Wow. Your facts backing that point up were marvelous. Oh right... you didn’t back that up.


Gravatarthe overt racism of some of the so-callled "progressve" blogs is pretty fucking funny. I guess it takes an Obama candidacy to brng out their inner racist reactionary


GravatarBE ALERT!
Thers


the the hell is a lert?


Gravatar"Matthews: Obama "can't walk into a dinette with five or six guys there, white guys, in some cases ... He can't just shake hands and hang out"

What the hell was Matthews trying to say with this? I don't get it.
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Gravatar In abiding by Rule 57, I found the quote at the linked blog.

See? That's how it's done!


GravatarI AM AWAITING A VERY IMPORTANT EMAIL TOO!

Just thought you should know.


Gravataralert? I am thelert


GravatarDirty fucking hippies don't give a shit about no rules.


Gravatarok - did he really say this? he's capable, no doubt but did he?

Yes. Yes, he did.


Jesus.


GravatarI keep one thing in mind about economists: if you laid all of the economists in the world end-to-end they'd still point in different directions.


Gravatar
BE ALERT!


I AM SITTING ON THE EDGE OF MY CHAIR!

NO, REALLY!  I AM!


Gravataralert? I am thelert
WalterNeff


who's the walrus?


GravatarI got a very sweet email from a Ms Tiger. Made my day.


GravatarBE ALERT!
Thers


Indoor voice please.
People are sleeping.


GravatarI wonder if the dinette was gold-flecked formica.


GravatarJesus. If only the world were nothing but rainbows and flowers!! This "idea" is too stupid to be on Atrios's blog. People disagree. Often they disagree about what constitutes racism, sexism, and/or "bullshit". Good god. I'm sure you and I would be on the same side of most topics, I'm pretty far leftist, but this is just stupifyingly idiotic. How old are you, 13?

Fuck you.

I hope that helps.


GravatarI am not really sure where Krugman is coming from in this election. There is more to this than meets the eye. Perhaps there is a personal connection to the campaigns? Is a former student advising Clinton or a rival advising Barack? The columns just reek or pettiness (from my perspective.)

As far as the free trade issue. It is so difficult to even discuss because what it means to one person is not what it means to another. When Marcellina explained the other day that American goods were not actually going down in price in Europe because the prices are controlled and the only benefit was to the store owners and distributors: it just made me furious. (And me alone, apparently)

So we have free trade here when the dollar's value is lower we pay more. When the dollar rises in value, we pay less for foreign goods. But this is not true in Europe? Who agreed to this and why? This is free trade?

And we send our manufacturing jobs away and replace them with what? Financial sector jobs - like the 9000 that Citigroup eliminated today? - and what do they MAKE that we can sell?

I am sorry, Professor, you really do not see enough for me.


GravatarYou realize, that 1865 is a big thing to do.
MP


I may need to see some documentation if you expect to get this toaster.


Gravatarremind me to not include some of you in meh secret resistance force. jeeze.


GravatarSee? That's how it's done!

I am an enabler.


GravatarThis exchange of a potential email exchange is really exciting. I can't believe that I'm actually witnessing it!


GravatarI got a very sweet email from a Ms Tiger. Made my day.

AND YOU . . . ooh, excuse me. 

And you made mine.


GravatarThe Reagan revolution proved adept in its prime goal of redistribution of wealth from 1980 until today. The Center on Budget and Policy Priorities shows in a 2007 study:
The top 1% of the population received 14.0% of the national after-tax income in 2004, nearly double its 7.5% share in 1979. (Each percentage point of after-tax income is equivalent to US$71 billion in 2004 dollars.) In contrast, the middle fifth of the population, which has 20 times more people in it, received 15.0% of the national after-tax income in 2004, down from 16.5% in 1979. The bottom fifth received 4.9% of the income in 2004, down from 6.8% in 1979.
Yet, the most important cultural impact of the Reagan revolution was the unleashing of the power of mega-corporations. It can be said in the year 2008, that the power of large corporations is as unfettered as any time in American history, and that is saying something.
The modern industrial corporation and the American republic were born contemporaneously. The basically centralized authoritarian structure of the corporation and the comparatively distributed democratic structure of the republic led to rather a fitful existence between the two from the beginning. Thomas Jefferson was the first to warn of the concentrated power of the new corporate entities. Fifty years later, at the dawn of the first Gilded Age, Henry and Charles Adams, the great grandsons of America's second president John Adams, would warn in their Chapters of Erie:
And yet already our great corporations are fast emancipating themselves from the State, or rather subjecting the State to their own control, while individual capitalists, who long ago abandoned the attempt to compete with them, will next seek to control them. In this dangerous path of centralization, [shipping and railroad magnate Cornelius] Vanderbilt [1794-1877] has taken the latest step in advance. He has combined the natural power of the individual with the factitious power of the corporation. The famous L'Etat, c'est moi of Louis XIV represents Vanderbilt's position in regard to his railroads. Unconsciously he has introduced Caesarism into corporate life. He has, however, but pointed out the way which others will tread. The individual will hereafter be engrafted on the corporation, democracy running its course, and resulting in imperialism; and Vanderbilt is but the precursor of a class of men who will wield within the State a power created by the State, but too great for its control. He is the founder of a dynasty.
It would be a warning continually sounded by others across the last decades of the 19th century. Eventually, the Populist Movement would emerge, a uniquely American movement that was a reaction from a dominant but declining agriculture economy to a growing and increasingly powerful industrial economy. The question of concentrated corporate power became a popular concern.


GravatarI am an enabler.
Apostate | 04.18.08 - 11:46 pm | #

You smell like a lert.


Gravatar"Yes. Yes, he did."

(bangs head on wall)

really the coloreds are just like real people... ya know?

SHIT repugs are STUPID about race.


GravatarHow many left coasters here are heading to Erin's house in Sept? I am planning on it.


GravatarSexson 2nd home run!!!!


Gravatar I can't believe that I'm actually witnessing it!

You should see when we talk to each other in person.


GravatarUncle Blodge, don't slam your head against that wall!  You might hurt the wall!


Gravatardid A man go to the philly obama rally tonight? they say he got 35,000!

http://www.dailykos.com/story/20...1053/669/ 498696


GravatarSHIT repugs are STUPID about race.
Uncle Blodge


they're a stupid race...


Gravatarrepublicans think black people run the gamut between Dr J and Clarence Thomas.


Gravatar[still sitting on edge of chair, waiting for email...]


Gravatarthers, thought you might like to know that your ibisi stomped fsu tonight in baseball


GravatarClarence Thomas is an excellent bowler.


GravatarHow many left coasters here are heading to Erin's house in Sept? I am planning on it.

Me! Me!

Erin and I were talking about find people coming from Seattle (and points north) and seeing if we could book amtrack tickets together. Party train to NorthWeschacon!


GravatarWhat is this "baseball"?


GravatarYou smell like a lert.

Haloscan is crap at transmitting pheromones.


GravatarI'm pretty far leftist, but this is just stupifyingly idiotic. How old are you, 13?

Do you ever laugh?


Gravatarit just made me furious. (And me alone, apparently)

Seriously, DWD...why do you keep saying this? It's not true, and all it does is irritate people.

There's a big difference between not responding to a given comment, and not caring about the issue to which it refers.

I'm not saying this in an unfriendly way.


GravatarAli - Portland will warm beneath my golden glow this September. I will bring a fresh Sharpie to accommodate autograph seekers.


Gravatari was at the obama site before the rally after i left work.

i know most of you will think im stupid, but when i saw the multitudes streaming into the city to see Barack i had a religious experience.

and im an atheist.


GravatarClarence Thomas is an excellent bowler.


I'd hate to know what he finds in the finger holes.


GravatarOh, yeah, trains! I wonder if there's anything leaving from Vancouver.

I will check, MikeJ.

I'm driving to Park City in June; that's enough driving for one year.


GravatarI learned today John Adams appeased the Barbary pirates, driving up costs for everyone. Bad fiscal policy, no wonder he's a darling of the GOP.

Thomas Jefferson, the archetype Democrat, took the appropriate and tough stance against them.

You want strong foreign policy and good economic decisions? Go with the Democrats every time.


GravatarChrist, the Internets are slow tonight...

DO NOT GIVE UP TO DESPAIR, WATERTIGER! I JUST HAVE A BAD CONNECTION!


Gravatar[still sitting on edge of chair, waiting for email...]

A watched inbox never delivers.


GravatarBONGO! as the liarbird made out!
.


Gravatar[still sitting on edge of chair, waiting for email...]

ok so I sent you one


GravatarHadenough -- Did you read the column? Krugman is the one who didn't back up his argument.
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GravatarGolden glow, Walterneff? I like teh golden glowz.


Gravatarthe correct response to the Barbary pirates would be to use the time machine to go back in time and settle Carthago with excess population fro East Orange, NJ.


GravatarI'm pretty far leftist, but this is just stupifyingly idiotic. How old are you, 13?

reading TNR does not make one pretty far leftist


GravatarI sent an email to myself the other day to remind myself to do some sort of task I've since forgotten - I got it 2 days later.


GravatarGiven the amount of bacon consumed around here, it's certain that my house's plumbing could not handle the visit. We'll set something up close to the train station downtown.


Gravatar"Uncle Blodge, don't slam your head against that wall! You might hurt the wall!"

wouldn't dream of it.

I did once punch a locker though...

and a phone box


Gravatarreading TNR does not make one pretty far leftist
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari | 04.18.08 - 11:52 pm | #

True enough. Makeup and good lighting might help.


GravatarGravatarGiven the amount of bacon consumed around here, it's certain that my house's plumbing could not handle the visit. We'll set something up close to the train station downtown.
ErinPDX | 04.18.08 - 11:53 pm


Is Thers invited? Oh noes!!


GravatarI offer a free taste of Bacon to all attendees of EschaErin


GravatarFinancial rewards only concern
While neo-liberals, unconcerned for the most part with any notions of wealth equality, concentrated almost entirely on financial rewards, thus the constant need for financial growth and the removing of taxes from gains on capital. This has had a tremendous impact on the American economy as the New York Times reported recently: "Profits from the financial sector now account for 31% of total United States corporate earnings - up from 20% in 1990 and 8% back in 1950."
ow, the number one enemy of finance is inflation, so as inflation begins to rear its ugly head, the ability for neo-liberalism to provide its benefits, which are at best inequitable, becomes increasingly problematic. For in the school of neo-liberalism, low interest rates are imperative to financial benefits, but low interest rates are impossible in inflationary times. It seems neo-liberalism has run into intrinsic problems just as the New Deal economics did in 1970s.
However, we may very well be at a point of fundamental questions neither the New Deal or neo-liberalism care to ask. For in the end, New Deal and neo-liberal political economy are simply two sides of the same coin. They are a political and cultural school of thought that seeks one end, economic growth. Both ultimately depend on growth in the creation of jobs, growth in the production of goods, and growth in consumption each year.
They are a school of thought that depends on infinite resources from what every year becomes increasingly clear to the collective mind of humanity is a very finite planet. It is this fundamental contradiction that will increasingly move into the center of all debate on political economy and a question neither New Deal or neo-liberal economics has any answers.
This contradiction has appeared most recently in the rise in the price of oil, which is the life blood of any economy we have deemed modern for the past century. Global production of crude oil has basically plateaued, while demand has continued to rise. At the same time, rising standards of living across the globe has given pressure to prices in other commodities. Bloomberg reports:
Farmers aren't keeping pace with the diets of a burgeoning middle class in India and China. The Department of Agriculture predicted February 8 that US stockpiles for the 12 months through May will drop 40% to the lowest since 1948 as global production lags behind consumption for the seventh year in eight. "There's been unprecedented demand globally for grains,'' said Gordon Davis, managing director of Melbourne-based AWB Ltd, the largest wheat exporter in Australia. "It's being driven by demand for protein in Asia, which reflects rising incomes.''
Global wheat production for the marketing year through May will probably reach 603 million tons as consumption rises to 619 million tons, according to the USDA. Demand in India, the most-populous nation after China, is up 16% since 2001.


GravatarAli, many moons ago I took the train from Eugene to Vancouver. lovely


GravatarWhen Marcellina explained the other day that American goods were not actually going down in price in Europe because the prices are controlled and the only benefit was to the store owners and distributors: it just made me furious. (And me alone, apparently)

To me free trade, as it's now practiced, is not about global regions or nation states as much as it is about corporate global states where the money is syphoned to the top from the bottom.....globally.


Gravatari think it's a simple ideological difference. Krugman is and always has been a finance liberal. The republicans have succeeded in moving the center line so far right that Bill Clinton appears on the far left and Krugman, who is a decent person, is at the edge of permitted debate.

It is only to be expected though, that a finance liberal would find a populist liberal like Obama unappealing.


GravatarI'd hate to know what he finds in the finger holes.

watertiger


BRAIN BLEACH!!!

I needz mah brain bleach!!!!!!!


Gravatar
reading TNR does not make one pretty far leftist
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari | 04.18.08 - 11:52 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


What about reading it while drinking some sort of cereal beverage, like Pero? That's pretty radical, wouldn't you say?


GravatarAli, from SEA-PDX is $28 each way on the train. Vancouver, BC to PDX appears to be about $49 each way.


GravatarYeah, Karl Rove, I forgot all about you advising me that my


GravatarIt is only to be expected though, that a finance liberal would find a populist liberal like Obama unappealing.
rootless-e | 04.18.08 - 11:54 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


thats how im feeling it.


Gravatar'm not saying this in an unfriendly way.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint

Because I waited and waited and waited and waited and waited for someone to either say, yep or nope: never happened.

That is why.

Sorry.


Gravatarbut this is just stupifyingly idiotic. How old are you, 13?

yes, and I am studying engineer modeling in Classic Greek, how about you?


GravatarI offer a free taste of Bacon to all attendees...
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray



GravatarI'll pay the bar tab on the Seattle/Portland run. Do the trains have wifi?? We could live blog the trip.


GravatarOK, I fucked up that last post, a little bit.


GravatarOne of my favorite lines from 30 Rock last night (which was hilarious), was from Liz Lemon's loser ex-boyfriend, when asked by Jack what his politics were.

"I'm socially conservative and fiscally liberal."


GravatarNeff, husband had to explain EschaGreen is People to me. He's old like you.


GravatarBecause I waited and waited and waited and waited and waited for someone to either say, yep or nope: never happened.

That is why.

Sorry.
DWD | Homepage | 04.18.08 - 11:55 pm | #


i waited and i waited
but i didn't feel a thing
Couldn't get high
dunno why


GravatarOutlined in his 1798 "Essay on the Principle of Population", Malthus' thinking is quite simple. In any limited biological environment, any species population growth rises to the limits of available food production and once hitting that limit will tail-off, much of the time extraordinarily. For example, a population of rabbits in a clover field will grow until they exhaust the supply of clovers. The population will then decline to match the lesser availability of clovers. Since Malthus, biologists have proven this to be an iron clad law of the natural world.
However, Malthus theory was held aghast by much of the theological and philosophical world. Humanity's theological and philosophical history has been one long attempt to hold itself exceptional from the rest of nature. Thus Thomas Carlyle, mid-19th century British historian and wag coined the phrase, "the dismal science" to disparage both Malthus and much else of early economic thinking.
Yet, Malthus became held in ill-repute nowhere more so than amongst the economic community. His idea of humanity as part of nature flew in the face of both burgeoning growth economics, the new industrial ethos which seemingly proved man's control over nature, and of course the much older philosophical and theological conceits of humanity's natural exceptionalism.
For the next century and half, industrialization swept Western Europe, the United States, and some other small parts of the globe. By 1950, the economics of unlimited growth seemed to have vanquished Malthus. World population growth went from less then a billion to over 3 billion, seemingly a direct refutation of Malthus population theory and an even more direct confirmation of the notion of human exceptionalism.
However, in the early 1970s, as inflation amongst commodities picked-up, oil supplies tightened and industrial economies slowed, Malthus suddenly made a reemergence. Organizations such as the Club of Rome in their report "Limits to Growth", thinkers such as E F Schumacher in his Small is Beautiful, and hundreds of thousands of adherents to the growing global environmental movement, all began questioning industrial economics concept of infinite growth on a finite planet.


GravatarI offer a free taste of Bacon to all attendees of EschaErin

Kevin Bacon?


GravatarFrancis Bacon thought knowledge is power.


GravatarHow many left coasters here are heading to Erin's house in Sept? I am planning on it.
Ali, now a habs fan


...uncertain depending on the date...


GravatarThanks, Blodge!

That's a cool pic!


GravatarFuck - I think my oldest is on the phone getting dumped long distance...

cause he found out she was cheating on him - sux to be 16


GravatarLiveblogging is absolutely imperative. Drinks are secondary.

I say this through the haze of the 3rd martini.


Gravatar"That's a cool pic!"

it's across the street from my school


GravatarI'll pay the bar tab on the Seattle/Portland run. Do the trains have wifi?? We could live blog the trip.

there is a lounge. And what Amtrak calls "entertainment":


On some routes, onboard entertainment includes seasonal presentations and commentary by volunteer rangers of the National Park Service through Amtrak's Trails and Rails program.


GravatarDWD, why didn't you respond to my comment about my home county being screwed in the same manner. Don't you care about our people here?
/


GravatarI would like to taste Kevin Bacon.

Jack, the grumpy etc.: you should try your best!


Gravatar was at the obama site before the rally after i left work.

i know most of you will think im stupid, but when i saw the multitudes streaming into the city to see Barack i had a religious experience.

and im an atheist.
euphronius


I'm tellin' you it's a monumental movement which will reach its apex in Nov.


GravatarWe're almost done completing our "cool cred" checklist. We're almost done watching the first season of "The Wire".

Aren't we just awesome?


GravatarOoh, an EschaThingie in Seattle? I could take the Empire Builder!


Gravatarreadig TNR while drinking a malted beverage makes you weepy, not leftist.


GravatarShorter DWD: Krugman has to be a two faced liar

Projection? You people are to much.


GravatarBecause I waited and waited and waited and waited and waited for someone to either say, yep or nope: never happened.

That is why.

Sorry.
DWD | Homepage | 04.18.08 - 11:55 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


I've posted stuff here about some issue or other, and not had people say anything about it. It didn't lead me to the conclusion that no one cared about the issue. That just seems like a weird assumption to make.

Except in the case of Atrios and his blackout on biofuels, natch.


GravatarKevin Bacon?

watertiger

K. Bacon


GravatarHonestly, Phila.

I am not trying to be a martyr or set myself up as some sort of prescient son of a bitch there are certain subjects that I perceive are simply not seen as important. The effects of the "Bad" trade deals that have been made is one of these things.

To me they are simply terrible. To most (rational) people they are simply not very important. I try to explain how they are important but the indifference I perceive (and maybe it is me) is simply amazing. It is like there is a blind spot there and no one can even see what is happening.


GravatarOoh, an EschaThingie in Seattle? I could take the Empire Builder!

Technically in PDX, but we have to transport the drunkards from Seattle.


GravatarThersites can make up all the rules his Homeric nobility critiquing ass can fit at once, everyone knows the joke's on him b'cause everyone knows Y-chromo Micks don't represent mainstreet America.


Gravatar"i know most of you will think im stupid, but when i saw the multitudes streaming into the city to see Barack i had a religious experience."

not stupid, just assimilated into the cult.


Gravatar
1. No Sexism.
2. No Racism.
3. No parroting of MSM/Wingnut bullshit.

Just my idea.

UPDATE: Yes, I mean YOU specifically.


Someone needs to get laid.


Gravatarpuppethead,

There's gonna be a few folks come here in Sept for the RNC.


Gravatarnot just left coasters, though
come on watertiger...can you gals commit to 9/6?


Gravatarronjazz, heard about your getz earlier!

Congratulations!


Gravatar# There are several fundamental pillars in reforming political economy:
1. Ending the idea of infinite linear production and consumption in the closed system that is Earth.
# 2. Moving away from a fossil fuel-based energy system.
# 3. Corporate and government reform.

Concentrating on these three interlinking subjects will allow a comprehensive though in no way exhaustive look at evolving political economy.
The first thing that must be changed is the linear production and consumption model. We must accept the fact that we live on a finite planet, which means the doctrine of infinite growth is an eventual doctrine of disaster. The first rule we must adopt is to bend the current linear production and consumption process into a circle, which means most importantly, we must realize on a closed system like the earth there is no such thing as waste or garbage. We must look at everything we produce as recyclable and if it presently isn't, it must become so.
Secondly, we have to move people off the production and consumption hamster wheel. This is the wheel that requires people to work to produce ever more things so they can be rewarded with ever more consumption. An ethic must be developed of not wanting more, but simply wanting enough - the system as whole must embrace this ethic. People must be enabled to work less and have more time to do other things than just consume.
For breaking out of the linear production and consumption model, the robust evolution of information technologies is going to play a critical role. To this point, information technologies have simply been used to enhance the linear production and consumption model, that is to simply produce more stuff. However, the real value of information technology lies in design, that is, eventually creating more livable societies that use less stuff. Most of our economic institutions will need to be retooled so their most important element is not production, but design. We need to figure out how to design our economy to not produce the most stuff, but more elegantly produce enough. Design is measured not by quantity, but by quality.
The most important element of the modern economy that will need to be redesigned is energy. If there is one thing that can be said that separates the industrial age from all preceding it, it is the exponential rise in energy consumption. Fossil fuels - oil, coal, and natural gas - have provided industrial society with incredibly cheap and portable sources of energy. Modern society is founded on this simple fact. Yet, we are fast reaching the limits of oil availability and the environmental problems of burning fossil fuels in a closed system like the earth are growing, including the increasing inevitability of altering millenia old weather patterns.


GravatarAren't we just awesome?
Zap Rowsdower, aka Habeas


OK, that's a little needy.



Gravatar
I've posted stuff here about some issue or other, and not had people say anything about it. It didn't lead me to the conclusion that no one cared about the issue.


I responded to your whining about UPS already. What the fuck is your problem???!?!?!


Gravatarhttp://www.atimes.com/atimes/Glo...y/ JD17Dj05.html


Gravatar"Someone needs to get laid."

yeah - so?


GravatarTechnically in PDX, but we have to transport the drunkards from Seattle.
MikeJ


That's cool, the Empire Builder forks at Spokane to go to Portland.


Gravatarnot stupid, just assimilated into the cult.
jdw | 04.19.08 - 12:00 am | # [kill]​[hide comment]


fair enough. but I saw it in their faces on the sidewalk and it's tearing me apart.


GravatarIf you have in mind to rescue a coupla dogs, do not make them Dalmatians.

I'm just sayin.


GravatarThe effects of the "Bad" trade deals that have been made is one of these things.

To me they are simply terrible. To most (rational) people they are simply not very important.

That is untrue.


Gravatar
come on watertiger...can you gals commit to 9/6?


I'm waiting to hear from my sister -- we're trying to plan a surfing trip.  I need to figure out my vacation days. 

I think I can tentatively commit to 9/6?


Gravatar
Projection? You people are to much.


but we do know how to spell, usually, so we got that going for us.


GravatarMy EschaPDX offer is - I organize nothing, I decide nothing, I just show up and pay for booze; you're all on your own for grub.


GravatarShorter DWD: Krugman has to be a two faced liar

Projection? You people are to much.
hadenough

I did not say he was a liar. I said that what was important to him was not the same thing as what is important to those whose lives are being decimated by these trade deals that give advantage to some and devastation to others.

The government or business has NEVER done anything for those places and people they have hurt. I think this is wrong. Sorry.

I guess I should just shut up and let these rich motherfuckers get a little richer. After all, what are we here but just some bitter assholes anyway.


Gravatarchimpy luvvs Golf Cart One.


Gravatareveryone knows the joke's on him b'cause everyone knows Y-chromo Micks don't represent mainstreet America.
the goddamn k&y | Homepage | 04.19.08 - 12:00 am | # [kill]​


What about Clancy the bricklayer? Or Flanagan, the cop on the beat?


Gravatar1Watt, Hermit
============

TLDR

TLDR

TLDR


GravatarTo me they are simply terrible. To most (rational) people they are simply not very important. I try to explain how they are important but the indifference I perceive (and maybe it is me) is simply amazing. It is like there is a blind spot there and no one can even see what is happening.
DWD


Alternative explanation: There are 82 visitors online and maybe 30 actively commenting.
None of those very few people has anything of value to add to a conversation on the subject.

There are probably any number of blogs concentrating on the subject.


GravatarTo most (rational) people they are simply not very important

BULLSHIT!!!
You think closing the biggest plywood mill in the us was nothing? Those people made more than teachers, and the jobs haven't been replaced. Why won't you respond to me, DWD. Don't you care?


GravatarThere's gonna be a few folks come here in Sept for the RNC.
Zap Rowsdower, aka Habeas


Oh yeah, that. I was thinking of going all photojournalist and documenting it.


GravatarThers,  did you send that email via carrier pigeon?


GravatarShorter DWD: Krugman has to be a two faced liar

Projection? You people are to much.
hadenough | 04.18.08 - 11:59 pm | #


It's possible to think someone is wrong, without insisting that they are evil. Try it sometime.


GravatarWATERTIGER -- THE EMAIL IS DISPATCHED. MAY GOD BE WITH YOU.


GravatarI saw something very sad last weekend. The "store cat" at the Dry Garden Nursery in Oakland was dying. It was laying on the ground, blind and deaf for the previous 24 hours, and only occasionally found the energy to meow, as if to ask "Is anyone there?" and then we all went to pet it.

14 years old, outdoor cat. Not bad.


GravatarWhy you gotta hate on us?


GravatarMy EschaPDX offer is - I organize nothing, I decide nothing, I just show up and pay for booze; you're all on your own for grub.
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray

I am the decider.
Bow to me.


GravatarI have a brother named Kevin. Here he is.


Gravatarodysseus kicked theristes butt.


GravatarErin and I were talking about find people coming from Seattle (and points north) and seeing if we could book amtrack tickets together. Party train to NorthWeschacon!

I had not thought of that, but I am evil enough to actually enjoy driving.


GravatarWATERTIGER -- THE EMAIL IS DISPATCHED. MAY GOD BE WITH YOU.

I'M A SECULAR HUMANIST, DAMMIT!


Gravatar
Alternative explanation: There are 82 visitors online and maybe 30 actively commenting.


I have 74 computers powered up and logged on to this website at all times.


GravatarI think I can tentatively commit to 9/6?

Thinking about 9/6 is SO 9/5.


Gravatar"Someone needs to get laid."

Er, don't we all? Or maybe just me.


GravatarI have a brother named Kevin.

Oh, shit. I forgot that.


GravatarOh, and ladies, I will be chaperoned.


Gravatarronjazz, heard about your getz earlier!

Congratulations!

Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 04.19.08 - 12:01 am | #

grazie. it was big fun.


Gravatar4Legs, i noes h8s on u. Not evr!



Gravatar"Someone needs to get laid."

Er, don't we all? Or maybe just me."

I'm certain it's not just you


Gravatar1. No Sexism.
2. No Racism.
3. No parroting of MSM/Wingnut bullshit.
------------

4. No 500 word essays.


GravatarWATERTIGER -- THE EMAIL IS DISPATCHED. MAY GOD BE WITH YOU.

I'M A SECULAR HUMANIST, DAMMIT!

OK, IS IT OK IF I JUST WISH THAT COLIN FIRTH BE WITH YOU, IS THAT OK?


GravatarAre we squabbling among ourselves again?

Ahh Democrats, it's good to be among ones own kind. Kitty cats ho!!! Yee haw!

Point of order? If we spell bitchez with a 'z' as in "Mars bitchez" it doesn't count as sexism does it?


GravatarI've posted stuff here about some issue or other, and not had people say anything about it. It didn't lead me to the conclusion that no one cared about the issue. That just seems like a weird assumption to make.

Most of the time I'm talkin' to myself when I post here. But I'm on dial-up, it's easier to follow comments here than most threads. And besides, what do I know?
.


GravatarI was thinking of going all photojournalist and documenting it.

I was out in Seattle in '99 for the protest against the WTO. I'd bet that the trip out there on the Empire Builder would be a treat!


GravatarI have nothing. Men fight for me because if they do not, I throw them off my land and I starve their wives and children. Those men who bled the ground red at Falkirk fought for William Wallace. He fights for something that I never had. And I took it from him, when I betrayed him. I saw it in his face on the battlefield and it's tearing me apart.


GravatarOh, and ladies, I will be chaperoned.

Ah, I heard you were too old for me anyway


GravatarYou want strong foreign policy and good economic decisions? Go with the Democrats every time.
puppethead


I would probably have done it too, but the problem is that Jefferson did it without the approval of Congress, and here we are.


GravatarHas anyone else here read Noel Ignatiev's How the Irish Became White?


GravatarThe effects of the "Bad" trade deals that have been made is one of these things.

To me they are simply terrible. To most (rational) people they are simply not very important.


Well, if that's what you want to persist in believing, there's not much I can do about it. Don't be surprised when people get annoyed about it, though.


Gravatardon't you wish I start drinking again?

Reports in the British press indicated, however, that the campaign plan was based on the assumption that British and US troops would play the central role in an effort to roll up the Mahdi Army in Basra. The Independent reported March 21 that Furayji had publicly declared there would be a "final battle" in Basra, probably during the summer, and that Britain had already promised to provide military forces for the campaign. It quoted "senior government sources" as saying that Prime Minister Gordon Brown's earlier pledge to cut the number of British troops in the south from 4,100 to 2,500 would "almost certainly be postponed until at least the end of the year".
Two days later, the Sunday Mirror quoted a "senior US military source" as saying that the "coalition" would turn its attention to Basra once the "huge operation" in Mosul against al Qaeda and nationalist Sunni insurgents was completed, and that the US was prepared to redeploy "thousands" of US Marines to Basra, if necessary.
This plan for a major foreign troop deployment to the south for the first time since the US battles against the Mahdi Army in April 2004 did not sit well with Maliki. In 2006 and 2007, he had repeatedly blocked US proposals that US and Iraqi forces target Muqtada al-Sadr's Mahdi Army in Baghdad as well as in the south.
When Vice President Dick Cheney, who had previously played the "bad cop" in the George W Bush administration's relations with Maliki, visited Baghdad in mid-March, one of his objectives was to get Maliki to go along with the Petraeus plan to eliminate the commanding position of Muqtada's forces in Basra. Maliki has told Iraqi officials that Cheney put pressure on him to go along with the Basra operation, according one Iraqi source.
After Cheney met briefly with Maliki on March 17, he discussed the "security situation" with Muqtada's Shi'ite rival, Abdul-Aziz al-Hakim, head of the Supreme Islamic Iraqi Council, which has been pushing for the destruction of the Mahdi Army. Cheney lavished praise on Hakim, whom he ostentatiously called "my friend", for "working so hard with the United States and with Iraq's other leaders to advance the cause of Iraq's freedom and democracy". The signal of the Bush administration's intentions toward Muqtada could hardly have been clearer.


Gravatar"Has anyone else here read Noel Ignatiev's How the Irish Became White?"

yes.


GravatarI HATE HILLARY SUPPORTERS. I really do.

Their comments on blogs are lies and disgusting.

We supported Hillary and Bill Clinton through all their failings...and their manipulations at the time because we were happy that we Democrats were finally fighting back and winning.

TO USE THE DISINGENUOUS TACTICS to try and destroy a smart, honest, and nice man IS REPULSIVE. Yes, YOU, YOU HILLARY SUPPORTERS. I have started to hate her and Bill - and REALLY HATE YOU TOO.

Sam Ingersoll
Philadelphia, PA

p.s. Perhaps the chickens ARE coming home to roost. (Better lock the hen house gate and keep them out....forever.)


GravatarI have a good WTO story - I was downtown: I'll share it, if someone reminds me, at the EschaGreen is People


GravatarWhen are you Obama supporters going to apologize for your stupidity?


GravatarMatthews keeps thinking that Obamas bitter comment is hurting him in PA.
Ever since he made the comment his ratings are improving. All the local newspaper comments are suggesting the opposite of what Matthews is saying.
People are thinking Obama speaks the truth and the problems can't be fixed unless you recognize they are there.

Matthews mentioned on Maher tonight that he thinks Hillary will win by 10+. All indications here in PA are indicating Obama is catching up.

Just my humble opinion from a small town in PA.


Gravatar4Legs, i noes h8s on u. Not evr!
--------

5. No made up languages.


GravatarRightly so. They're as rich in English titles and lands as they are in Scottish, just as we are. You admire this man, this William Wallace. Uncompromising men are easy to admire. He has courage; so does a dog. But it is exactly the ability to *compromise* that makes a man noble. And understand this: Edward Longshanks is the most ruthless king ever to sit on the throne of England. And none of us, and nothing of Scotland will remain, unless *we* are as ruthless.


GravatarOK, IS IT OK IF I JUST WISH THAT COLIN FIRTH BE WITH YOU, IS THAT OK?

VIGGO!


Gravatarwatertiger haz email


Gravatar
'ncle Blodge, Urban Teacher

Is good book.


GravatarAre we squabbling among ourselves again?

Enough already.  Dark chocolate poundcake for all.  Now eat.


GravatarOK, IS IT OK IF I JUST WISH THAT COLIN FIRTH BE WITH YOU, IS THAT OK?
Thers


always with the mr. darcy


Gravatar"fair enough. but I saw it in their faces on the sidewalk and it's tearing me apart."

tearing you apart? why?

this is supposed to be a happy occassion!


GravatarWho wrote the theme to the Odd Couple


GravatarErinPDX,

I thought I was but are you sure you want to be identified with a malcontent like me?

I know what you are saying and I agree 100%. I just wish it were easier.

This week alone the New York Times has had two editorials calling for more trade deals that are bad for people.

And unions? Don't even get me started. The idea that people should be able to organize and bargain is so foreign in America right now that they might as well pass laws Against Unions it would not make that much difference. The courts have basically outlawed all union activities anyway. (Our Teachers' Association cannot go on strike anymore. If we do they can fine each individual teacher hundreds of dollars a day and the district can fire them. We have not had a raise since they passed this law. Think the law has something to do with it?)

Enough. Night, all.

Peace.


GravatarComment by Toby blocked. [unkill]​[show comment]


*BAM*


Gravatar5. No made up languages.
Elias


FUck off.

You understood that didn't you?


GravatarHas anyone else here read Noel Ignatiev's How the Irish Became White?

Yes. Here's an interview with Ignatiev.


Gravatar"Has anyone else here read Noel Ignatiev's How the Irish Became White?"

Yes.


GravatarNeal Hefti - played it on the trumpet all the time


GravatarGoing to go watch Moyers now. Take care people.


Gravatar5. No made up languages.
Elias | Homepage | 04.19.08 - 12:09 am



WTF???? H8r11!!!!


And Colin Firth/Viggo. Same guy, right? At least, same hormonal reaction.


GravatarSam Ingersoll
Philadelphia, PA
-------

And I thought Obama supporters were full of hope, not hate


Gravatar*cough*

viggo as aragorn was teh suck.

that is all.


GravatarAhh Democrats, it's good to be among ones own kind.

If you want five opinions, get three Democrats.


Gravatarapparently 62 degrees is the precise temperature in which cats go nuts


GravatarI have a good WTO story - I was downtown

I got to see my late Senator speak on the back of a flatbed truck denouncing the WTO.

Throughout the speech, I kept hearing folks yell, "Wellstone for president". It was quite an awesome site.


GravatarNobody could have foreseen that the Sunni Awakening groups would demand political power.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ 19ed9c...00779fd2ac.html


GravatarComment by Elias | Homepage blocked. [unkill]​[show comment]


*BAM* *BAM*

*BAM*


GravatarI IZ SORRIES I IZ 2 SEXXXXXIES


GravatarI just want the melting watch thing by Dali.


Gravatartearing you apart? why? this is supposed to be a happy occasion!

The only thing that tears me apart is love, again.


GravatarIf you want five opinions, get three Democrats.

If that ain't the fucking truth...


Gravatar"Matthews mentioned on Maher tonight that he thinks Hillary will win by 10+. All indications here in PA are indicating Obama is catching up."

mathews seems to be still pretty plugged into PA insiders, so my guess is that he might be accurate, in this case.


GravatarWhen are you Obama supporters going to apologize for your stupidity?
Toby | 04.19.08 - 12:09 am | # [kill]​[hide comment]


If only we had some other candidates, who wouldn't have stirred up so much controversy.

Y'know, the kind of person that Sean Hannity and David Brooks might not completely agree with, but would basically respect....

What might have been....


Gravatar(Better lock the hen house gate and keep them out....forever.)

What's wrong with you? We fucking HAVE to win in November. This crap doesn't help.


GravatarYou understood that didn't you?
-----

Obscenity is your reason d'etre.

Understand that?


Gravatarviggo as aragorn was teh suck.

that is all.
euphronius


He looked good.


Gravatarthis is supposed to be a happy occassion!
jdw | 04.19.08 - 12:10 am | # [kill]​[hide comment]

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you just broke a rule!!!


GravatarMatthew, is that why mine are all in the living room with me, staring me down?

Or are they laboring under the delusion that I'll give them their midnight snack at barely past 9?


Gravatar"I have a good WTO story - I was downtown"

I did the 2000 protests in DC VS the world bank / wto

almost got beat by a dc cop.

good times


GravatarAnd I thought Obama supporters were full of hope, not hate
Elias | Homepage | 04.19.08 - 12:11 am | #

You dumb shit, he was a Clinton supporter.

Was.


GravatarObama supporters are immature political thinkers who don't know enough to know that their man is out of his depth.

Their man is also an arrogant rhetorician who is really a communist at heart.


GravatarI IZ SORRIES I IZ 2 SEXXXXXIES

NO FLIRTING!


Gravatar
OK, IS IT OK IF I JUST WISH THAT COLIN FIRTH BE WITH YOU, IS THAT OK?

WORKS FOR ME!


GravatarI am once again invoking rule 57: Visit my blog!


Gravatar*cough*

viggo as aragorn was teh suck.


Don't be a dumbass.


GravatarFUck off. You understood that didn't you? fourlegsgood

You, centaur, are a shameless flirt.


GravatarI IZ SORRIES I IZ 2 SEXXXXXIES

FER SHIRT


Gravatarsallyh,

ian is running from one side of the house to the other sliding under things, attacking paper and curtains and mewing non-stop

kitty-krazies


GravatarDon't be a dumbass.
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter | Homepage | 04.19.08 - 12:15 am | # [kill]​[hide comment]


its meh opinion. i realize im in the minority.


GravatarThe idea that people should be able to organize and bargain is so foreign in America right now that they might as well pass laws Against Unions it would not make that much difference.

I have never heard the plight of my people set forth so eloquently.

Now, if someone would just explain to me what a "union" is.....


GravatarI am once again invoking rule 57: Visit my blog!

As long as it's not rule 34.


GravatarTheir man is also an arrogant rhetorician who is really a communist at heart.
Toby | 04.19.08 - 12:14 am | #

So, twice the man McCain is.


GravatarToby is still dumb as a sack of hammers.


I have to say at least he's consistent.


GravatarI am once again invoking rule 57: Visit my blog!
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Rule 56, Part C, paragraph 4:

"All progressive blogs must include at least one Laura Nyro video."


GravatarI'm going to post new snow photo in a sec - it's coming down hard.


Gravatarmathews seems to be still pretty plugged into PA insiders, so my guess is that he might be accurate, in this case.
jdw |

That's reason to believe his observation is inaccurate, actually.


GravatarIf you want five opinions, get three Democrats.

As I understand it, it's six opinions, two democrats, and one malcontented independent.


Gravatar"Y'know, the kind of person that Sean Hannity and David Brooks might not completely agree with, but would basically respect....

What might have been...."

LIEBERWHORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


GravatarHey WalterNeff,

is it still snowing in Mill Creek? Going like gangbusters here in shoreline for a couple of hours ... started here at about 5:30.


Gravatarian is running from one side of the house to the other sliding under things, attacking paper and curtains and mewing non-stop


Oh noes!

iz he shedding as he runs about?

Ripley always duz


GravatarWho wrote the theme to the 60's Batman show?


GravatarYou, centaur, are a shameless flirt.
---------

She digs me.


GravatarI'm going to post new snow photo in a sec - it's coming down hard.

I would like to see that.


GravatarToby


Fool.


Gravatarnd I thought Obama supporters were full of hope, not hate
Elias | Homepage | 04.19.08 - 12:11 am | #



Hate gives us hope.


Gravatarmatthews is plugged into his own asshole.

PA? trending blooooooooooooo


GravatarAnswered that question...I'll go check your blog.


Gravatar
As I understand it, it's six opinions, two democrats, and one malcontented independent.


Obviously you've been brainwashed by the corporate whore media.


GravatarNow, if someone would just explain to me what a "union" is.....
Phila, Pizen Sarpint


...well, currently, it seems to involve something about one man and one woman...


GravatarAnd then we all had giggly sex.

And scene.


Gravatar4Legs, my kittehs r shedg like krazee.




GravatarYou, centaur, are a shameless flirt.
JeffCO


I must uphold my reputation ya know.


GravatarMaliki thus feared that a confrontation between thousands of US and British troops and the Mahdi Army would further inflame the feelings of Shi'ites in the south about the occupation, with which his own regime has been so tightly linked.
The Shi'ite south has become the most anti-occupation region in the country. The British polling firm ORB, which has been doing opinion surveys in Iraq since 2005, found in March that 69% of respondents in the south believed security would improve if foreign troops were withdrawn, and only 10% believed it would get worse.
When Maliki met with Petraeus the following morning, according to Petraeus' spokesman, Petraeus warned against sending "a couple of brigades" into the city, suggesting that he did not consider the scale of the operation to be large enough. Nevertheless, when Maliki told him the decision to launch an operation in Basra had already been made and that it would begin in three days, Petraeus agreed to support it.
When the Basra operation became an obvious disaster, however, Washington officials began to question Maliki's motives. On the third day of the operation, as Bush administration officials were reassessing what they described as "a rapidly deteriorating situation in southern Iraq", one official told the Washington Post's Peter Baker they were comparing conspiracy theories about why Maliki had acted so precipitously.
Although that comment was not explained, it clearly implied that Maliki was deliberately undermining the US objective of eliminating the Mahdi Army by using US and British troops.
Bush administration suspicions of Maliki's intentions could not have been eased by the fact that a delegation of pro-government parties traveled to Iran to ask the commander of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps to negotiate a ceasefire with the Mahdi Army. That ploy, which did result in a tenuous ceasefire, raised the possibility that Maliki intended from the beginning that the outcome of the Basra operation would be a new agreement that would prevent the deployment of US and British troops to fight the Mahdi Army during the summer.


GravatarBobo had a bigger mancrush on Obama in 2006 than Tweety had on Bush. Wha happen?

http://select.nytimes.com/2006/1...n/ 19brooks.html

New York Times, October 19, 2006

Op-Ed Columnist
Run, Barack, Run
By DAVID BROOKS

Springfield, Illinois - - Barack Obama should run for president.

He distrusts righteous anger and zeal. He does not demonize his opponents and tells audiences that he does not think George Bush is a bad man... He has a compulsive tendency to see both sides of any issue...It is surely true that a president who brings a deliberative style to the White House will multiply his knowledge, not divide it... The third reason Obama should run for president is his worldview. At least in the way he conceptualizes the world, he is not an orthodox liberal. In the book, he harks back to a Hamiltonian tradition that calls not for big government, but for limited yet energetic government to enhance social mobility... anyone who’s observed him closely can see that Obama is a new kind of politician. As Klein once observed, he’s that rarest of creatures: a megahyped phenomenon that lives up to the hype... It may not be personally convenient for him, but the times will never again so completely require the gifts that he possesses. Whether you’re liberal or conservative, you should hope Barack Obama runs for president.


GravatarObama supporters are immature political thinkers who don't know enough to know that their man is out of his depth.

We need another dry-drunk serial failure from Texas to get this great nation back on track.

Or failing that, a 150-year-old rageaholic with the moral compass of a turnip.


Gravatar"That's reason to believe his observation is inaccurate, actually."

i'm keeping my hopes low. the way i see it, the demographics are worse for him in pa then they were in ohio...i think he lost by 7 here.

on the other hand, he had a lot more time to campaign in pa, but the political machine, including the big cities, isn't lined up behind him like it was in ohio.

so i dunno.


Gravatar3. No parroting of MSM/Wingnut bullshit.

The next six months will be crucial in this regard.


GravatarDWD, i'd rather just give you a shoulder rub.


GravatarOh noes!

iz he shedding as he runs about?

Ripley always duz
fourlegsgood


the (not so) little fucker killed my last vacuum cleaner...had to get a new one

he sheds 42.7kg of hair each day, except on tuesdays when he sheds 48.4kg


GravatarHate gives us hope.
rootless-e

And bitterness.


Gravatar"Or failing that, a 150-year-old rageaholic with the moral compass of a turnip."



Gravatar4Legs is The Shit: Too Cool


Gravatarviggo as aragorn was teh suck.

that is all.
euphronius


Somebody needs an eye exam.....


GravatarWe need another dry-drunk serial failure from Texas to get this great nation back on track.

Or failing that, a 150-year-old rageaholic with the moral compass of a turnip.


In other words, someone twice as smart as Toby.


GravatarI really enjoy watching David Tennant.


Just saying.


GravatarI am soooo innocent. I don't have a blog. And I didn't make a fool of myself saying Obama flipped Hillary the bird.


GravatarFriday Snow Blogging 2


Gravatarbut the political machine, including the big cities, isn't lined up behind him like it was in ohio.

so i dunno.
jdw | 04.19.08 - 12:19 am | # [kill]​[hide comment]


ive spent 100% of my life in Philadelphia the past month.

it is an obama town.


GravatarI went searching for a picture of the neck beard on my ancestor. Finally found the pic:

http://thumbsnap.com/v/koVCgbIq.jpg


GravatarSheez, 1 Watt, all you gotta do is post a paragraph or two as a hook, then the link:

http://www.antiwar.com/porter/? a...articleid=12709


Gravatarthe (not so) little fucker killed my last vacuum cleaner...had to get a new one

he sheds 42.7kg of hair each day, except on tuesdays when he sheds 48.4kg
::matthew




hmm. I shouldn't laugh. The girls shed so much I can only vacuum one room at a time.


GravatarI just can't survive without rageohol.


GravatarShe digs me a hole, pushes me in, then fills it, all the while whistling a happy tune.

Flibbered yer gibbet.


Gravatarthe political machine, including the big cities, isn't lined up behind him like it was in ohio.

so i dunno.
jdw |

We must not underestimate Obama's appeal among the very people he was addressing with his "bitterness" comment..Many of these people understand precisely what he meant, and they agree with him. It's the first time in a long time anyone has addressed their concerns.


GravatarFriday Snow Blogging 2

it was almost 80 degrees here today.




Gravatarnice neard.


Gravatar Finally found the pic:

i can haz razor, perchance?


GravatarThe idea that people should be able to organize and bargain is so foreign in America right now that they might as well pass laws Against Unions it would not make that much difference.

Where I grew up the opposite was true, and upon consultation, I believe that was in the borders of the United States.

Weird.


GravatarI love Franny Rose.

Just sayin'


GravatarYes, I mean YOU specifically.

But...I don't have a blog. Does this mean I have to start one?


GravatarThat's what it looks like here, WalterNeff. You heard about the heavy snow advisory for Snohomish County? This is April! It looks like December!


GravatarSo how 'bout that heavy wet beaver, earlier today?

Good grief I'm drunk.


GravatarOr failing that, a 150-year-old rageaholic with the moral compass of a turnip.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint


Which is being really unfair to turnips.


GravatarI really enjoy watching David Tennant.

Oh, damn. forgot Dr. Who wuz on


GravatarI assumed that was a fake Toby. But after that "arrogant rhetoritician" bit, I'm not so sure. Not too many other people washing hogs like that.


GravatarThanks, ErinPDX, I appreciate it.

Maybe someday, someone who gives a shit about people who do not make 200K a year will actually be elected to the presidency and there will be a change of focus in this country.

Maybe.

I really doubt it will happen (the change) but I hope.

Night.


GravatarOr failing that, a 150-year-old rageaholic with the moral compass of a turnip.
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Anti-turnipite.


GravatarSheez, 1 Watt, all you gotta do is post a paragraph or two as a hook, then the link:

Wow, thanks for the tip poster who's been here for 3 agonizing months.


GravatarI really enjoy watching David Tennant. Just saying. watertiger

Billie Piper calls him "David Teninch" for some reason.


Gravatarhell, it was 78 in the NW last weekend. crazy.


Gravatar4Legs is The Shit: Too Cool

U R a man of good sense.


GravatarI really enjoy watching David Tennant.


Just saying.

watertiger


How odd.
I'm enjoying the same scenery just now....


Gravatari can haz razor, perchance?

Neckbeard would make a great name for a band.


GravatarWhere I grew up the opposite was true, and upon consultation, I believe that was in the borders of the United States.

Weird.
Thers

Yeah, ain't that funny?


Gravatar"I must uphold my reputation ya know."

I'd be happy to help in any way I can.


Gravatar4Legs, i shuld haz remindz u dat Dr. Who iz on.


Gravatarthe dem part in ohio was 100% hillary supporting.


Gravatari would enjoy a sopping 40 lb beaver on my face.


GravatarI in the midst of the annual 'Wood rats seek nesting sites under the house' Have noises you wouldn't believe. Girl dog's afraid to sleep in her room on the floor.

Put out the de-con 2 days ago, it takes 4-5 days for it to work.


GravatarWeird.
Thers | Homepage | 04.19.08 - 12:23 am | # [kill]​[hide comment]


You're a coddled coastal elitist who doesn't have the fine grasp of national politics that comes from listening to Bob Seger sing about "riding against the wind."


Gravatar"ive spent 100% of my life in Philadelphia the past month.

it is an obama town."

teh cool. thanks!


Gravatari can haz razor, perchance?
The Kenosha Kid


alternative mansculpting

and eyebrow beards are da shizzle


GravatarMatthews keeps thinking that Obamas bitter comment is hurting him in PA.

The talking assholes on Wash Week In Review were skewing things the same way. They know nothing. They believe that if they say anything it will be believed. Their time has come and gone. They know absolutely nothing.


Gravatar3. No parroting of MSM/Wingnut bullshit.

Does Bobo's column from 2006 praising Obama and urging him to run count as RW BS or not?


GravatarShe digs me a hole, pushes me in, then fills it, all the while whistling a happy tune.
---------------

Reminds me of my ex.


GravatarBillie Piper calls him "David Teninch" for some reason.

Now I REALLY like watching him!

[/runs out of the room]




Gravatari can haz razor, perchance?

Neckbeard would make a great name for a band.


It's very weird. I never found out if that was a fashion or if this guy did his own thing. He's not that old in the pic (a flax blond), so it could be a fashion.


GravatarWatching Slap Shot -- this is a very good movie. Really very well done.


Gravatarhell, it was 78 in the NW last weekend. crazy.

I was gonna do trail repair tomorrow for earth day. My guess is more people love the earth when it's not covered in snew.


GravatarYeah, it's me, Phila. I just haven't bothered with the other info.

I hate my fucking laptop.

It's got Vista.

'nuff said.


Gravatar"No parroting of MSM/Wingnut bullshit."

Exactly why the conventional wisdom on Pennsylvania should be disputed. People are more pissed off at McCain and Clinton's pandering than they are by Obama, who is finally acknowledging their concerns.


Gravatarit was almost 80 degrees here today.

Pfft - as I noted earlier in the week, we had that on Wednesday and snow on Thursday. It's wacky I tell ya!


Gravatar"Watching Slap Shot"

OLD TIME HOCKEY!!!


Gravatari would enjoy a sopping 40 lb beaver on my face.

um, no flirting?


GravatarWow, thanks for the tip poster who's been here for 3 agonizing months.
--------------

Made all the worse with your insufferable attitude.


Gravatarplease don't urinate or defecate on Elias, as it only gets him excited


Gravatar" from listening to Bob Seger sing about "riding against the wind."

you don't know the heartland if you don'yt listen to meloncougarcamp.


GravatarSo how 'bout that heavy wet beaver, earlier today?

Good grief I'm drunk.


I have a vision where I die of an alcohol overdose slumped over on my keyboard writing a comment while listening to an Alice Cooper album.


GravatarHillary Clinton: the best friend John McCain ever had.


GravatarMade all the worse with your insufferable attitude.
Elias | Homepage | 04.19.08 - 12:27 am | #

No comment.


Gravatar
Yeah, ain't that funny?
DWD


You realize I grew up in New York City, right?


GravatarBest Coast Eschacoid aqui, tambien.


Gravatarhell, it was 78 in the NW last weekend. crazy.
ErinPDX


...it was 50+ and sunny on the East Side today. It's really wierd hearing about snow in the Puget Sound area this time of year....


GravatarEnough with the sopping beaver thing. Jaysus! Could I be more gay?!


GravatarFriday Snow Blogging 2
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray


Spring hasn't yet sprung in ur little corner of teh world, has it?


Gravatarplease don't urinate or defecate on Elias, as it only gets him excited
-------------

Stalker.


GravatarWatching Slap Shot -- this is a very good movie. Really very well done.

Back when I was talented, I played a gig with the guys from 'NomeansNo', but they dressed as and called themselves "The Hanson Brothers". Show of a lifetime.


Gravatar"No parroting of MSM/Wingnut bullshit."

Well, I did hear the Pope gave Hillary the finger.


GravatarComment by Elias blocked. [unkill]​[show comment]

huh?


GravatarBest Coast

We're having a meetup in Cannes?


Gravatar
Pfft - as I noted earlier in the week, we had that on Wednesday and snow on Thursday. It's wacky I tell ya!


"It's the end of the world!"

[/drunk sitting at the diner counter in "The Birds"]


Gravatarlistening to Bob Seger sing about "riding against the wind."

It's actually "running against the wind" but you wouldn't know that, effette coastal elite that you are.


GravatarYou realize I grew up in New York City, right?
Thers


What burro?


GravatarAll those tulip growers in the Skagit Valley are fucked - seriously fucked. Why don't we kill the bees while we're at it.


Gravatar"the dem part in ohio was 100% hillary supporting."

nope. all the big city mayors endorsed obama, as did the majority of the newspapers.


GravatarWhat burro?
Joe Scabrosaurus


ass


GravatarPhila

Maybe someday I will be smart enough to move out of a place that is located on a lake with deer in my backyard and where my parents, grandparents, cousins and everyone else I know has lived and died for the last 100 years. A place where I do not even lock the doors on my car or my house. A place where my children received a world-class education in the public schools.

Yeah. pretty terrible here. I guess we should all leave.


GravatarSo, neckbeard blogging beats PAPAL blogging? Atheists.


GravatarI have a vision where I die of an alcohol overdose slumped over on my keyboard writing a comment while listening to an Alice Cooper album.
Stunt Woman


Stiff uppah lip, woman.
Not to Alice Coopah, Good Lord.


GravatarIt's actually "running against the wind" but you wouldn't know that, effette coastal elite that you are.
Tlazolteotl | 04.19.08 - 12:29 am | #

it always sounds like squeezing out a big shit against the wind to me.


Gravatarbutler, i have elias and mimi blocked. please post as annie and shoelimpy asap.


GravatarMatthews keeps thinking that Obamas bitter comment is hurting him in PA.

The talking assholes on Wash Week In Review were skewing things the same way. They know nothing. They believe that if they say anything it will be believed. Their time has come and gone. They know absolutely nothing.
Bobby, Who ♥ Kucinich

They are completely out of touch with the American people. Conventional "wisdom" my ass.


GravatarShe digs me a hole, pushes me in, then fills it, all the while whistling a happy tune.

You left out the "stomps him into a fine pulp" part


GravatarHey Jason Siegel and his penis are on Letterman.

(they both star in the movie I just saw)


Gravatarnope. all the big city mayors endorsed obama, as did the majority of the newspapers.
jdw | 04.19.08 - 12:30 am | #


She drove around Ohio in Ted Strickland's car.


Gravatarronjazz, how are your gorgeous and rapidly growing grandchildren?


Gravatarass
::matthew


We are all Democrats here.


Gravatar"I have a vision where I die of an alcohol overdose slumped over on my keyboard writing a comment while listening to an Alice Cooper album."

is there blood coming out of your eyes, and your leg turning gangrenous?


GravatarI got to babysit!


GravatarSo, neckbeard blogging beats PAPAL blogging? Atheists.

You'd be wise to adjust to future blog-huers...


GravatarI'm now officially on weekend break and will not say anything even half intelligent. Burp.


GravatarWe're having a meetup in Cannes?
MikeJ


Transplant


Gravatar [/drunk sitting at the diner counter in "The Birds"]

You're more the "Their brain pans simply aren't large enough!" type.


GravatarMade all the worse with your insufferable attitude.

You know, I really wanted to think better of you than your 39 apologies run. But you really are a miserable twit. Buh bye.


Gravatarnope. all the big city mayors endorsed obama, as did the majority of the newspapers.
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Yeah, because, after all, those things called "citizens" shouldn't have a say. "Of, by, and for the Mayors and Newspapers."


GravatarWhat burro?
Joe Scabrosaurus

from wet beavers to donkeys..


Gravatar
Back when I was talented, I played a gig with the guys from 'NomeansNo', but they dressed as and called themselves "The Hanson Brothers". Show of a lifetime.


Hee hee.

Slap Shot is very well done. Holds up excellently -- one of the best American movies, IMHO.


GravatarHoly jesus fucking christ this review of 300 by War Nerd Gary Brecher, our new hero who already agreed with us on all points of our glorious military wisdom and then conveted us to the V-22 (if you don't need that named you know what an accomplishment that is) while VTOL'ing off with our hearts, is fucking awesomely boss.


GravatarI happened to hear Sean Hannity declare this afternoon on the radio that he doesn't read blogs. Very emphatic abt it.

I think that's an elitist attitude. He's happy to regurgitate news and angles these blogs come up with, but he'll leave it up to an assistant, I guess, to do the reading for him.

I think it's because Hannity thinks reading is for losers. Asshole assertion is for heroes like himself.


GravatarThey are completely out of touch with the American people. Conventional "wisdom" my ass.

Sadly, I think Obama will lose PA. Not by 20 or anything, but lose.

The best possible way to shut up the pundits would be an Obama victory.


GravatarIt's actually "running against the wind" but you wouldn't know that, effette coastal elite that you are.
Tlazolteotl | 04.19.08 - 12:29 am | # [kill]​[hide comment]


True, but you're forgetting the fifteen-minute coda where he shrieks like a constipated hyena about seein' the cowboys ride, ridin' against the wind.


GravatarHecate, are you now officially exhausted?

I saw Maddy today, and her daddy.  And, believe it or not, Mlle.

She looks good.


Gravatar"She drove around Ohio in Ted Strickland's car."

yeah, she did have the gov, but the cities deliver the votes.

the biggest problem here, imo, was he had only two weeks to campaign, and that was split with texas.


GravatarSlap Shot is very well done. Holds up excellently -- one of the best American movies, IMHO.
Thers


The Hanson Brothers!


GravatarAll those tulip growers in the Skagit Valley are fucked - seriously fucked. Why don't we kill the bees while we're at it.

Temps in eastern washington supposed to be around freezing overnight, just when the cherry/apple/pear/plum/etc. trees are blooming.


GravatarWatching Slap Shot -- this is a very good movie. Really very well done.
Thers


I consider it the best hockey movie ever made.


Gravatarronjazz, how are your gorgeous and rapidly growing grandchildren?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 04.19.08 - 12:31 am | #

Exactly that, happy to say. Took grandson to Baltimore's National Aquarium on Monday last, great time was had. Lunch with grandaughter, son and my parents the week before, most excellent.

Thanks for asking. Fucking DWD never asks.


GravatarYou're a coddled coastal elitist who doesn't have the fine grasp of national politics that comes from listening to Bob Seger sing about "riding against the wind."
Phila, Pizen Sarpint


Erm...and which state did you move to again?


GravatarI consider it the best hockey movie ever made.
puppethead


you mean that emilio estevez movie?


GravatarTrue, but you're forgetting the fifteen-minute coda where he shrieks like a constipated hyena about seein' the cowboys ride, ridin' against the wind.

You're right. I'm usually passed out before that part.


GravatarThey are completely out of touch with the American people. Conventional "wisdom" my ass.


Media elite-so true


GravatarJesues, Mary, Joseph? [makes sign of the cross]

The Wicked Witch is allowed to be near children?


GravatarThe Hanson Brothers!

They RULE!


GravatarWatching Slap Shot -- this is a very good movie.

You are Michael Bérubé and I claim my five pounds.


Gravatar"The best possible way to shut up the pundits would be an Obama victory."

Pundits are never silent - sharks gotta swim they gotta emit gas.

they stop bloviating they die


GravatarI only ask because New Jersey still wants Staten Island back. It is The Falklands on the Hudson.


GravatarZapette's regaling me with stories of dealing with an "iron-monger" in Scotland.

I must sleep. Goodnight, all.


GravatarWhen you lose Brighton Beach, you've lost Lancaster.


GravatarTook grandson to Baltimore's National Aquarium on Monday last

Ooooh. Very cool.


GravatarYou know, I really wanted to think better of you than your 39 apologies run.
------------

It was 53, apologies, FIFTY THREE!!!


GravatarThe talking assholes on Wash Week In Review were skewing things the same way. They know nothing

43 people watch that show.
And 37 of them work for the station.....


GravatarBurp.
Echidne |

Genius.


GravatarThers has several emails in return.  4LG has one, as well.

and I'm going to go be unconscious now.

[waves goodnight]


Gravatarthe best hockey movie ever made is Braveheart


GravatarYou left out the "stomps him into a fine pulp" part -fourlegsgood

I rather thought you would enjoy the whining and pleading and begging until the air ran out, but I guess it would be a shame to have the legs and all and not use them.


Gravatarnight bats....


GravatarObama will win Pennsylvania.

Buh - bye, Hillary.


GravatarWell, Elias just went back in the crapper again.


Gravatarg'night WT


GravatarOh Jeebus Christ, he's just mailing it in:

Bush to appear on "Deal or No Deal"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ 20080..._bush_game_show


He and Howie Mandel are about equally talented so...


GravatarSallyh,

Tired but happy. Glad you got to spend time w/ the fam. We watched Thomas the Tank Enging DVDs and Catch the Moon by Lisa Loeb, his new favorite.


Gravatar"Flogging Molly" is on the Jay Leno show.


GravatarI got to babysit!
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


Have you given g/son the DFH t-shirt yet?


GravatarI always figured that the ancestor of the Snake lady is Väinämöinen, (if he ever found a woman to make children with, that guy had terrible luck with the ladies).


GravatarThe best hockey movie ever made is George Stevens' Giant though there isn't actually any hockey in the film.


GravatarHe and Howie Mandel are about equally talented so...

Mandel can get the rubber glove off his head after inflating it. Bush would suffocate.


Gravatar
Yeah. pretty terrible here. I guess we should all leave.
DWD | Homepage | 04.19.08 - 12:30 am | # [kill]​[hide comment]


Yeah, that's exactly what I'm telling you to do. You betcha.

I dunno...I guess I just can't share in the epiphany you've had about NAFTA being a bad thing...I can't quite wrap my little mind around it. Maybe a few more weeks of condescension and capitalism-for-dummies platitudes will help me to get it through my thick skull.


GravatarEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWW Unnamed East Asian character totally macking on unnamed sarcastic aging white character just now on A Battlestar Named Desire...


GravatarThe redbud trees bloomed last night, was cool & rainy this morn. the hills looked purple.


Gravatarif BHO wins PA outright - which i doubt - it will be one of the more amazing political stories in american history.


Gravatar"Flogging Molly" is on the Jay Leno show.
The Kenosha Kid | Homepage | 04.19.08 - 12:37 am | #

Can't stand Leno, maybe Thers will live-blog.


Gravatarthey stop bloviating they die
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher

Good riddance.


GravatarI rather thought you would enjoy the whining and pleading and begging until the air ran out, but I guess it would be a shame to have the legs and all and not use them.
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You're referring to an individual who can't chew gum without reading directions.


GravatarI always figured that the ancestor of the Snake lady is Väinämöinen, (if he ever found a woman to make children with, that guy had terrible luck with the ladies).

They didn't have cameras then, but I think I'm from the Lemminkainen line because he was sexy.


Gravatar"Good riddance."

well yeah but don't plan on it


GravatarK & Y

i guarantee at the end of the episode you will say:

WHAT

THE

FRAK


GravatarThree rules for the Progressive Blogs.

1. No Sexism.
2. No Racism.
3. No parroting of MSM/Wingnut bullshit.



This we march to?

Parrot bullshit is hard to give up, cold turkey.
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GravatarBaltimore's National Aquarium

That's a v. good aquarium. And, then, since you're in Harbor Place, you can go eat crabcakes!


GravatarNow I'm out of here, I've got planes to create.


GravatarMichael Kinsley is on the Charlie Rose show. Long time no see.
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WalterNeff, now on blu-ray

SILENCE! The best hockey movie is Last Year at Marienbad, where the hockey is implied but never shown.


GravatarYeah, I found it interesting that when the Wicked Witch was alone in her room in Philly, she didn't have a problem referring to me by my real name.


Gravatargoodnight batses

sweet dreams


Gravatarmout 2

l8r


GravatarGene Simonetti, 83, slumped quietly in his chair at the South Side Senior Center as a group of Kennedys and local politicians shook hands and chatted with seniors about voting for Illinois Sen. Barack Obama.
Then the group singing started.

Mr. Simonetti pumped his fist, puffed out his chest and put his arm around Ethel Kennedy, 80, Robert F. Kennedy’s widow, as he bellowed “America the Beautiful.”
“I told Mrs. Kennedy, if I was two years younger, I’d hit on her,” he said.
Mrs. Kennedy was the headliner for a caravan of Kennedys, young and old, who jaunted through the Scranton area Thursday.
It was the first time Mrs. Kennedy had been on the campaign trail in 40 years, but she came to Pennsylvania after her 80th birthday this weekend to campaign for Mr. Obama.
“It’s very much the same,” she said about campaigning. “It’s nice to see the face of America.”
She shook hands, patted backs, sang songs and changed into sneakers after nine hours of campaigning.

Starting at 5:30 a.m., they piled into their Escalades and sedans: Mrs. Kennedy; her daughter, Rory; her son, Max, with his wife, Vicky, and daughters, Summer and Noah; Lackawanna County Commissioners Mike Washo and Corey O’Brien; Pat Casey, brother of Sen. Bob Casey Jr.; and actor Joe Pantoliano.

They visited about seven diners and Dunkin’ Donuts shops in Moosic, Scranton and Dunmore before they arrived at the South Side Senior Center.One woman in a wheelchair explained to Mrs. Kennedy that she once drove through a red light to see her husband, Bobby.

“Well, I went through a red light to see Sen. Obama,” replied Mrs. Kennedy, as she began to walk to the next, but certainly not the last, stop for the day.


http://www.thetimes-tribune.com/...id=415898& rfi=6


GravatarRule 34: There is porn of it


Gravatar


euphronius

They bring back 3? They're showing an awful lot of 3 in the flashbacks considering they done killed all of her...


GravatarYou're right. I'm usually passed out before that part.
Tlazolteotl | 04.19.08 - 12:34 am | # [kill]​[hide comment]


Sounds like you need to start workin' and practicin' on the night moves. Night moves! Workin' on the night moves! Gaaaaah! Night moves, night moves! Arrrgh! Workin' on the, workin' on the, workin' and practicin'! Night moves! Arrrrrgh!


GravatarAgain, nope.


GravatarNo one ever didn't shoot hockey like Kurosawa.


GravatarHave you given g/son the DFH t-shirt yet?

Oh, yeah, I gotta get a picture of him in it: he wears it to daycare and tells them: My Nonna got me this hippy shirt.


GravatarThat's a v. good aquarium. And, then, since you're in Harbor Place, you can go eat crabcakes!
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 04.19.08 - 12:39 am | #

My wife and I always have a very difficult time ordering fish after a visit to an aquarium. Besides, I'd really have to head to Bertha's for mussels and crabcakes. I can state categorically that the cafe at the Baltimore aquarium truly sucks out loud.


Gravatarif BHO wins PA outright - which i doubt - it will be one of the more amazing political stories in american history.
euphronius

Why? Because all the beltway bloviators didn't see it coming? What exactly have they been right about, lately? Obama has been consistently gaining in the polls in Pennsylvania lately..Every time Hillary went negative, it hurt her and helped Obama. If this latest backlash to the MSM assault on Obama in the Philadelphia debate is any indicator, Obama will win Pennsylvania.


GravatarBest Bob Seger Song

Its been all downhill since.


GravatarK&Y

watertiger would rip meh balls off if i leaked a spolierz.


GravatarHecate, Maddy will be 2 on May 17th.  She no longer looks like a baby.  she's getting to be such a big girl!



GravatarHecate

whenever you are looking for a babysitting gig in sunny Florida we are always available.


GravatarMaybe it was because she was lonely and a little tipsy.


GravatarExactly why the conventional wisdom on Pennsylvania should be disputed. People are more pissed off at McCain and Clinton's pandering than they are by Obama, who is finally acknowledging their concerns.
Duane V, Bitter Classist | 04.19.08 - 12:26 am | #


The strange about this is Obama's 'bitter' comment was his explanation as to why he doesn't get a higher percentage of working class votes. His explanation was that they are bitter and cling to religion and guns and anti-immigration and intolerance of people who are different. The last two items are deliberately omitted in the reporting so he is able to explain it as he meant the working class is bitter about the economy, which has nothing to do with why more of them aren't voting for him. He wasn't 'acknowledging their concerns', he was saying that they are too intolerant and bitter to vote for HIM.


GravatarHockey looks fun to play, but I'd much be an NFL safety and knock the grandmother out of a wide receiver coming across my lane.


GravatarObama will get Philadelphia, he'll get Pittsburgh, and he'll win in between. People remember who is responsible for NAFTA.


GravatarWhat's all this about a Paypal Visit? They make housecalls? Ooh, maybe they're gonna deliver that chrome plated cheese straightener I won on ebay...


GravatarQuick! West coast Friday Cat blogging! East coast... pretend it's Caturday!


GravatarK&Y

watertiger would rip meh balls off if i leaked a spolierz.


GravatarThe talking assholes on Wash Week In Review were skewing things the same way. They know nothing

That guy on Maher tonight went out into PA and talked to those "small town" guys.

All of them, and I mean all of them, were for Obama.


GravatarSILENCE! The best hockey movie is Last Year at Marienbad, where the hockey is implied but never shown.
the goddamn k&y | Homepage | 04.19.08 - 12:40 am | # [kill]​


Deleuze proved that that's actually about water polo.


GravatarI'm starting to dread Tuesday. My plan is to stay TV free until 5:01pm.


Gravatarmrs. i,

If I'm ever down that way, I'd love to! How are the bebbies?


Gravatarhas nothing to do with why more of them aren't voting for him. He wasn't 'acknowledging their concerns', he was saying that they are too intolerant and bitter to vote for HIM.
yellow dog dem

Wrong. They ARE voting for him. And he WAS simply acknowledging their concerns.


Gravatardan haren is a better pitcher than me. damn.


GravatarI'd much be an NFL safety and knock the grandmother out of a wide receiver coming across my lane.
MP


I dunno, that sounds very much like a hockey move...


GravatarParrot bullshit is hard to give up, cold turkey.
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QuentinCompson, Negatory

Bwwarrrkkkk!


GravatarOh, yeah, I gotta get a picture of him in it: he wears it to daycare and tells them: My Nonna got me this hippy shirt.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


Heh.
I like this kid.

What did Son and DIL say when you told them what it stood for?


GravatarAll of them, and I mean all of them, were for Obama.
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter

Yes. White, working class biker types. Just like here in Maine.


GravatarAll of them, and I mean all of them, were for Obama.
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What's the spin for Tuesday night if Hillary wins?

"It wasn't by enough?"
"It doesn't matter?"
"She should drop out?"

All the usual suspects?


GravatarAll of them, and I mean all of them, were for Obama.
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter


One of the networks did a news piece tonight on how Allentown is shifting heavily for Obama, not the Hillary-favoring place it was ten years ago.


GravatarElizabeth is one on Sunday. One Year Old!

time flies when you are having fun.


GravatarI'd much be an NFL safety and knock the grandmother out of a wide receiver coming across my lane.
MP

I dunno, that sounds very much like a hockey move...
Meanie-meanie, tickle a person

They beat up grandmothers in hockey? ... Parrots, hockey, DFHs... what is this world coming to?


GravatarWhat did Son and DIL say when you told them what it stood for?

They laughed; DiL said his teachers wouldn't be surprised; they know them pretty well!


GravatarAll of them, and I mean all of them, were for Obama.
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter


I hope they have a lot of friends.


GravatarThe pucks skids away from the stick, the stick that speeds to the net without ever reaching it, the net that always remains apart from the walls, the walls that always line the ice, the ice that was there last summer...


GravatarOne of the networks did a news piece tonight on how Allentown is shifting heavily for Obama, not the Hillary-favoring place it was ten years ago.
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You mean, Obama*


*without Florida or Michigan.


Gravatarmrs. i,

One? How did that happen?


GravatarThat guy on Maher tonight went out into PA and talked to those "small town" guys.


Jeremy Skahill, the author of the book on Blackwater.


GravatarI hope they have a lot of friends.

It was bikers and guys from a gun range.

Cracked me right up.


Gravatarjeremy scahill is awesome.


GravatarI consider it the best hockey movie ever made.
puppethead


In 1977, in the tv movie "The Deadliest Season," Michael Moriarty played a goonish hockey player who killed his best friend during the course of a game by spearing him. Meryl Streep played his wife. Pretty fair movie.


GravatarObama*





*Florida and Michigan not included.


GravatarHecate

I don't know. It seems like just yesterday we were spending the weekends at the beach with her, and now we are heading out to St. Augustine in the morning to celebrate with her visiting cousins.

I just can't fucking believe we made it this far. allahu ahkbar!


GravatarIt was bikers and guys from a gun range.


Fuckin' Aye!


GravatarAnnie just posted a video on her blog and the person matches ellroon's gravatar.


GravatarOne of the networks did a news piece tonight on how Allentown is shifting heavily for Obama, not the Hillary-favoring place it was ten years ago.
puppethead

Like I said, they remember who's responsible for NAFTA.


Gravatarjeremy scahill is awesome.
euphronius

We owe him a lot for sounding the alarm.


Gravatar*Florida and Michigan not included.
Elias | Homepage | 04.19.08 - 12:51 am | #

Saying it again doesn't make it any less stupid or irrelevant.


GravatarThe latest Rasmussen Reports survey data show the race between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama is closer than ever in Pennsylvania.

The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey shows Hillary Clinton with 47 percent of the vote and Barack Obama with 44 percent.

The poll was conducted Thursday night, the night following a nationally televised debate between the candidates.

Last Monday, Clinton was leading Obama 50 percent to 41 percent in the Rasmussen data.

But according to the data, Obama’s support appears to be a bit softer than Clinton’s at this point in time.

Six percent of Obama voters said there’s a good chance they could change their mind before voting. Only 2 percent of Clinton supporters said the same.

Overall, with less than a week to go, 9 percent of Pennsylvania voters remain undecided, with 3 percent said there’s a good chance they will change their mind, and another 12 percet might change their mind.

Among those who are certain how they will vote, Clinton leads 53 percent to 47 percent.

The last line is the key to the primary, who shows up!


GravatarElias is so stupid he has to make his points twice, in case his stupidity didn't come through clearly enough the first time.


GravatarThey laughed; DiL said his teachers wouldn't be surprised; they know them pretty well!
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


Heh.
Slowly the world is becoming a more welcoming place for us DFHs....


GravatarAnnie just posted a video on her blog and the person matches ellroon's gravatar.
jrod

Should I be honored? Or irritated?


GravatarThey beat up grandmothers in hockey? ...

Cheese, they useta drag fans out on the ice and take turns bodycheckin' 'em till they put the glass up...


GravatarFunny how Hillary is all worried about the voters in Florida and Michigan while she argues to the superdelegates that they should ignore the voters in all the other states.

Not too worried about disenfranchising us, is she?


GravatarCheese, they useta drag fans out on the ice and take turns bodycheckin' 'em till they put the glass up...
Meanie-meanie, tickle a person

Puck that!


GravatarWell, goodnight to you all. And may a pleasant tomorrow be yours.


GravatarElias is so stupid he has to make his points twice, in case his stupidity didn't come through clearly enough the first time.
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I had to rework it. Second version is much more effective.

Obama, the * candidate.

*Florida and Michigan not included.

There. That should do.


GravatarThe pucks skids away from the stick, the stick that speeds to the net without ever reaching it, the net that always remains apart from the walls, the walls that always line the ice, the ice that was there last summer...
the goddamn k&y | Homepage | 04.19.08 - 12:49 am | # [kill]​


You still don't get it. The nonpresence of hockey opens up a space in which the potential for water polo can be realized, thanks to the mobility of the immobilities on which the immobility of mobility must be predicated.


Gravatar4Legs, i luvs ur blog 2day.  haz priddy kittehs, inkludg Maxx!


Gravatargn sidhra!


GravatarNo snow in my neck of the woods tonight:

http://plush-life.blogspot.com/2...-in- austin.html


Gravatar*Florida and Michigan not included.

There. That should do.
Elias | Homepage | 04.19.08 - 12:55 am | #


Brilliant point. i'm convinced.


GravatarWould like disenfrenchfries with that?


GravatarLike I said, they remember who's responsible for NAFTA.
Duane V, Bitter Classist | 04.19.08 - 12:52 am | # [kill]​[hide comment]


NAFTA?

Never heard of it.

Or wait...it's something they put in shampoo, right?


GravatarNo snow in my neck of the woods tonight:


You have palm trees? Wow. I've never seen one.


GravatarWrong. They ARE voting for him. And he WAS simply acknowledging their concerns.

[John Judis] To win in November, a Democratic presidential candidate has to carry most of the industrial heartland states that stretch from Pennsylvania to Missouri. That becomes even more imperative if a Democrat can't carry Florida -- and because of his relative weakness in South Florida, Obama is unlikely to do so against McCain. Ruy Teixeira and I have calculated that in the heartland states, a Democratic presidential candidate has to win 45 to 48 percent of the white working-class vote. In some states, like West Virginia and Kentucky, the percentage is well over a majority.

Some Democrats insist Obama need not worry about these states because he will be able to make up for a defeat in Ohio or even Pennsylvania with a victory in Virginia or Colorado. But in Virginia, McCain will be able to draw upon coastal suburbanites closely tied to the military. These voters backed Democrats like Chuck Robb and Jim Webb, who are both veterans, but they may not go for Obama. And in the Southwest, McCain will be able to challenge Obama among Hispanics. So to win in November, Obama will have to win almost all of these heartland states. Which is a problem, because even before he uttered his infamous words about these voters "clinging" to guns, religion, abortion and fears about free trade, Obama looked vulnerable in the region. A look at the white working class' relationship with earlier Democratic candidates underscores the various reasons why.

Many white working class voters in these states used to be loyal Democrats. The last two successful Democratic presidential candidates, Jimmy Carter in 1976 and Bill Clinton in 1992 and 1996, swept Ohio, West Virginia, Kentucky, Pennsylvania and Missouri. Many of these voters have always been highly patriotic, church-going hunters who were skeptical about the benefits of trade and immigration and -- what Obama did not mention -- black political assertiveness. But they still distrust Republicans as the defenders of business and look up to Democrats (or at least some Democrats) as being more in tune with average Americans like themselves.

Democrats have won over these voters when their advantage on the economy has come to the fore. And they've lost these voters when their positions on the economy -- or national security -- were not sufficiently compelling to overcome the Republican advantage on social issues like abortion, gay marriage or gun control. Why? Because with the exception of a few rabid single-issue voters, the white working class hasn't simply displaced its economic anxiety, or bitterness, onto God, guns, and gay marriage; they're actually quite concerned about the economy.

Historically, there are three circumstances in which Democrats have been able to win over these voters:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/ op...70_obama20.html

The Unacceptable Republican, The Acceptable Democrat, The Empathetic Democrat.


Gravatari really need to read Infinite Jest again. soon.


GravatarYou still don't get it. The nonpresence of hockey opens up a space in which the potential for water polo can be realized, thanks to the mobility of the immobilities on which the immobility of mobility must be predicated.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint | Homepage | 04.19.08 - 12:56 am | #


You spent too much time with that stuff.


Gravatar.. year 2007 was important for al-Qaeda's development as several stand-alone Arab groups operating in Pakistan's tribal areas, including Libyans and Egyptians, either merged into al-Qaeda or made an alliance in which they would be subservient to al-Qaeda's command.
With al-Qaeda losing key members, a vacuum should have been created, but that did not happen, and another figure has emerged - Maulana Ilyas Kashmiri. He is a veteran fighter of the Kashmir struggle, groomed by Pakistan's Inter-Service Intelligence's India cell.
Islamabad's clampdown on activities in Kashmir and being arrested a few times disheartened Kashmiri, and he moved to the North Waziristan tribal area. He was soon followed by his diehard Punjabi colleagues and they made Afghanistan their new battlefield.
This year, a "crossbreed" of fighters - a combination of Arab command and that of Kashmiri, as well as an alliance with tribal warlord Baitullah Mehsud - is expected to spring some surprises in Afghanistan.
"The Taliban are tribal warriors. They only understand guerrilla operations as hit-and-run raids," a group leader for the Taliban-led spring offensive told Asia Times Online on the condition of anonymity.


Gravatar4Legs, i luvs ur blog 2day. haz priddy kittehs, inkludg Maxx!

Thanks. I has pool pictures up nao 2


GravatarThey must be worried about water polo, all they talk about is the damn fountain freezing...


Gravatarhttp://www.myfoxphilly.com/myfox...1011& isP16=true

Im sure this record crowd was mentioned earlier, but WOW!

http://www.myfoxphilly.com/myfox...TY& pageId=3.2.1


GravatarYou have palm trees? Wow. I've never seen one.

We do.

They aren't exactly native to this region, but they do pretty well in this climate.

That's the pool at Gregory Gym, which is really like a freaking resort these days.


GravatarWould like disenfrenchfries with that?

Ummmm. French fries....


GravatarRev Wright on Bill Moyers next Fri.


GravatarApprentice to Darth Holden

You're going to come for EschaGreen is People, right?


Gravatarhttp://www.myfoxphilly.com/myfox...1011& isP16=true

Im sure this record crowd was mentioned earlier, but WOW!

http://www.myfoxphilly.com/myfox...TY& pageId=3.2.1
phillie rocks | 04.19.08 - 1:00 am | # [kill]​[hide comment]

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as i said, this is an Obama town.


GravatarThey must be worried about water polo, all they talk about is the damn fountain freezing...
the goddamn k&y | Homepage | 04.19.08 - 12:59 am | # [kill]​


That's Robbe-Grillet's influence. All his books are about water polo. Except "The Erasers," which is about lacrosse.


GravatarEchidne, you've really never seen a palm tree?


GravatarThey only understand guerrilla operations as hit-and-run raids

Taco Jesus and Rice, that's like saying Jonas Salk is a limited doctor because he only sees medicine as a way of preventing or curing disease.


GravatarEchidne, you've really never seen a palm tree?

Not in fleshspace, no. I've seen reindeer and wolves and bears, though.


GravatarOverall, with less than a week to go, 9 percent of Pennsylvania voters remain undecided, with 3 percent said there’s a good chance they will change their mind, and another 12 percet might change their mind.

Among those who are certain how they will vote, Clinton leads 53 percent to 47 percent.

The last line is the key to the primary, who shows up!
polls

Yep, but don't forget, the polls have consistently failed to account for vast numbers of younger voters who have enthusiastically embraced Obama's campaign.


Gravatargn folks!!!!

K&Y, i hope BSG blew your minds.


GravatarIm sure this record crowd was mentioned earlier, but WOW!

Fucking WOW is right.

35,000???


With Independence hall in the background, right where watertiger did a headstand!!


GravatarYou have palm trees? Wow. I've never seen one.
Echidne

They are messy, very prickly (don't hug them) and they burn like tiki torches in wild fires....


GravatarWith Independence hall in the background, right where watertiger did a headstand!! fourlegsgood

[quietly accepts status as chopped tofu]


GravatarWho was live on the air at the Savoy Ballroom when Pearl Harbor was being bombed?


GravatarNot in fleshspace, no. I've seen reindeer and wolves and bears, though.

Oh, so sad!!

I've seen reindeer, but not in the wild. Only in a zoo.


GravatarYou have palm trees? Wow. I've never seen one.

We had a big fat palm tree growing in our courtyard when I was a kid. When my parents cut it down, they found out it was home to millions of giant cockroaches.

I always wondered why we had so many of those fuckers in our house.


Gravatar[quietly accepts status as chopped tofu]

Elitist. You're sposed to say chopped liver.


GravatarWith Independence hall in the background, right where watertiger did a headstand!! fourlegsgood

[quietly accepts status as chopped tofu]


And Jeffco!

(hey, I put UR pitcher up too ya noes)


GravatarI've seen reindeer and wolves and bears, though.

A palm tree looks like a reindeer with green antlers.
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GravatarNot too worried about disenfranchising us, is she?
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter

we're big fat meanies who deserve it.
our lines were longer and you admitted snickering.


GravatarI've seen reindeer, but not in the wild. Only in a zoo.

My brother-in-law owns a herd of them. Mean fuckers.


Gravatar"Because with the exception of a few rabid single-issue voters, the white working class hasn't simply displaced its economic anxiety, or bitterness, onto God, guns, and gay marriage; they're actually quite concerned about the economy"


Which is why they, together with the youth vote, have embraced Obama.


GravatarA palm tree looks like a reindeer with green antlers.
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QuentinCompson, Negatory |

More like a polar bear's behind with wings...


GravatarElitist. You're sposed to say chopped liver. Echidne

I wouldn't eat that when I did eat manimals.


Gravatarwe're big fat meanies who deserve it.
our lines were longer and you admitted snickering.
ErinPDX | 04.19.08 - 1:07 am | #


I am the evil empire after all.


GravatarMy brother-in-law owns a herd of them. Mean fuckers.
Echidne

You'd be pissed, too, if people thought your main reason for existence was to cart a fat guy all over kingdom come one night of the year....


GravatarSo how long until Clinton says, "STOP with the big rallies and meet me in Pittsburgh!!"


GravatarI just heard the freecreditreport.com jingle, followed by "Viva Viagra."

Kill me now.


Gravatar(hey, I put UR pitcher up too ya noes) fourlegsgood

I iz a pitcher plant!


GravatarI just heard the freecreditreport.com jingle, followed by "Viva Viagra."

Kill me now.
Harry Doghiney (D-TX)

Hmmm... you think they're looking for a certain ... lift... to the market?


GravatarWith Independence hall in the background, right where watertiger did a headstand!!
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter


Heh.
She and JeffCo led the way.


GravatarI just heard the freecreditreport.com jingle, followed by "Viva Viagra."

Kill me now.


Arrrrgh.

I'm sorry, but what the hell do you guys with kids do when kids are in the room when one of those stupid "old men with flaccid dick fixer-upper" commercials comes on?'

Do they ask about them and what do you say?


GravatarI am the evil empire after all.
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter | Homepage | 04.19.08 - 1:09 am | #

You don't have true evil empire creds until you have been banned at talkleft, corrente, and taylor marsh.

i just have not been willing to dive into taylor marsh's horror blog.


GravatarDo they ask about them and what do you say?
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter


Imagine being a little boy and having to worry about limpdick from the age of 5......


GravatarWhich is why they, together with the youth vote, have embraced Obama.
Duane V, Bitter Classist


I don't recall this happening in any of the 30 primaries so far. Do you have a link?
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GravatarWait. Not even anti-white racism? What are you, anti-Jeremiah White?


GravatarYou don't have true evil empire creds until you have been banned at talkleft, corrente, and taylor marsh.

I haven't been to talk left in weeks.

They've gone wompy over there.


Gravatartroops being hung out to dry:

BAGHDAD — Three weeks after U.S. troops were ordered into the sprawling Shiite Muslim slum of Sadr City to stop rockets from raining down on the U.S. Embassy compound in Baghdad's Green Zone, they're caught in crossfire between Shiite militiamen and the mostly Shiite Iraqi army.
American soldiers who try to move around this urban area, even in the U.S. Army's state-of-the-art Stryker armored vehicles, risk being ambushed. The soldiers in a platoon from the 25th Infantry Division quickly learned that holding a position puts them in the line of fire from both the Mahdi Army militia and the U.S.-backed Iraqi forces.
The American soldiers can't go on the offensive from the run-down two-story house they commandeered in south Sadr City, but must hunker down and wait to get shot at.
An Iraqi family evacuated the house just before the fighting started. It has rats and clogged toilets but no electricity or hot water, and no air conditioning or heating. The American soldiers have had one shower and barely a change of clothes since they got here.


GravatarDo they ask about them and what do you say?

We have come across this complaint so often, and there doesn't seem to be a good answer.


Gravatari thought i knew some US history, but never knew about this decision

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Civ...il_Rights_Cases


GravatarI posted this to take vengeance upon my enemies.

HA! My enemies are *fucked* now that I made this blog post. Stupid enemies.


GravatarDo they ask about them and what do you say?
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter

believe it or not, we've gone with Dr. Spock, who advises you tell kids what they can handle processing at a given age. My kids were about 6-7 when clenis got the bj. Now we all snicker together, but at the time i told them he went out with another woman and that's not cool. Period. no other explanation and they went back to playing basketball and video games.


GravatarDo they ask about them and what do you say?
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter

My kids now look at me suspiciously when I take a deep breath because I've talked them to death about sex and sexuality from their early years.

I'm afraid I believe in more information rather than less....


Gravatari thought i knew some US history, but never knew about this decision

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Civ...il_Rights_Cases
rootless-e | 04.19.08 - 1:16 am | #
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yar. 1st year con law case in law school.


GravatarOh, damn.

Time for Maddie to be all bitey.

Her new trick, try to bite my glasses.


GravatarI'm afraid I believe in more information rather than less....
ellroon bitterful

too much information
running through my brain


(we do the same thing. wow did i have a conversation about mj last night)


GravatarThers, what the hell are you talking about?


Gravatarhttp://www.philadelphiaweekly.co...842/cover- story


GravatarMy kids now look at me suspiciously when I take a deep breath because I've talked them to death about sex and sexuality from their early years.

IIRC, that was all covered in the classic James and the Giant Necrophiliac.


GravatarNO BITEY!!


Gravataryar. 1st year con law case in law school.

CJ Roberts stays up late planning exciting new applications for late-19th century civil rights precedents.


GravatarI Support Elias.

So there, elitists.


Gravataryar. 1st year con law case in law school.
euphronius | Homepage | 04.19.08 - 1:19 am | #

A decision scalia could be proud of. Harlan's dissent is impressive, but did not stand a chance against the eagerness of the court majority to dismiss the explicit language of the amendment to create a fictitious basis for their nasty bit of legislating.


GravatarIIRC, that was all covered in the classic James and the Giant Necrophiliac.
JeffCO

Eek!... I talked... I didn't use illustrations....


GravatarThers, what the hell are you talking about?

My screenplay about the early years of blogs, which I know one day will be appreciated on the same level as Krush Groove.


GravatarHoly crap.

BS Galatica is freaking me out.


Gravatarexplicit language of the law?? lol. conservatives dont care bout that.


GravatarAn Iraqi family evacuated the house just before the fighting started. It has rats and clogged toilets but no electricity or hot water, and no air conditioning or heating. The American soldiers have had one shower and barely a change of clothes since they got here.

Y'know, it's not the americans I'm feeling sorry for at this point.


GravatarA decision scalia could be proud of.

Had an interesting conversation today with a quasi-wingnut law student who recently met Scalia at a school function. He's a fan of Scalia's "jurisprudence," but he said Scalia turned out to be ingracious and an enormous asshole in person.

He also said Scalia appears old in person and even a bit infirm.


GravatarIf only Richard Nixon could be here to see what's going on today.

Hey, that's not something you hear very often.


GravatarMy screenplay about the early years of blogs, which I know one day will be appreciated on the same level as Krush Groove.

Fuck that. No way it's as good as Chickasaurus Rex.


GravatarHer new trick, try to bite my glasses.
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter


It's that or ur ankles.
Ur choice.


Gravatarits allright. equal protection does the samething privliges and immunities would have done


GravatarBS Galatica is freaking me out.
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter


whoever said it wuz dark tonite wuz right....


Gravatarflory and sallyh, you have to come up here on 9/6.


Gravatar He's a fan of Scalia's "jurisprudence," but he said Scalia turned out to be ingracious and an enormous asshole in person.

Gee, imagine that. Scalia an asshole.


GravatarBSG is excellent tonight


GravatarHe also said Scalia appears old in person and even a bit infirm.


Just wanted to see that again.
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GravatarMEDIA, Pennsylvania (AP) -- To bisect the heart of the Democratic presidential contest, take the Chester exit of I-95 and wend your way to the Pennsylvania Turnpike. If Sen. Barack Obama has any chance of cultivating an upset on April 22, this 20-mile stretch is fertile land.
These are Philadelphia's western suburbs -- a patchwork of charming small towns, elite colleges and working class neighborhoods that constitute one of the most competitive political battlegrounds in the state.

"It is, without question, right at the center of the fight for Pennsylvania," said Rep Joe Sestak, D-Pennsylvania, the retired admiral who represents this district and who has endorsed Obama's rival, Sen. Hillary Clinton. "How my district goes is how the state may go."

Clinton holds a lead in statewide polls. But Obama is strongly favored in Philadelphia and polls show him holding a slight lead in the arc of four increasingly Democratic counties around the city.

Obama backers see hope in Democratic Gov. Ed Rendell's gubernatorial primary victory in 2002. Then, Rendell, a Philadelphian, carried the eight counties in the Philadelphia media market by a 4-1 margin. He only won two of the remaining 59 counties in the state, but it was enough to beat Democrat Robert Casey, now a U.S. senator.

"Sen. Obama can do the same thing, but needs to do better than the polls show him doing in the suburban counties," said Anthony Campisi, the first vice chair of the Delaware County Democratic Party and an Obama supporter.

"The polls show him in the low 50s. To build a big enough margin to carry the state his percentage needs to increase close to 55-60 percent."

Short of a win, Obama-backing strategists are looking to secure enough delegates to blunt Clinton's likely success statewide.


Gravatarflory and sallyh, you have to come up here on 9/6.
ErinPDX


Mebbe.
Dunno what I'll be doing that far in teh future......


GravatarGee, imagine that. Scalia an asshole.
fourlegsgood, randomly bitter

And infirm? is this the neocon brain rot finally materializing?


GravatarHoly shit.


Gravatarrendell is not a philadelphian. ffs.


GravatarRichard Nixon applied for the FBI in 1937.

The thing is, I can't believe he was denied. He was the fucking perfect FBI agent in 1937.


GravatarHOLY FRACK.


Gravatarholy fraking shit, indeed, 4lg.


GravatarWhat? What? /clutches chest...


GravatarBSG is excellent tonight

The ending was freaky.


GravatarGee, imagine that. Scalia an asshole.

My acquaintance expected Scalia to have a "judicial temperament" and was surprised to find him petty, defensive and mean.


GravatarKara's a fracking bitch....


GravatarOh, that was nice. Can't say it was a true surprise but they pulled it off beautifully, esp f/x (noises) -wise.


GravatarMy acquaintance expected Scalia to have a "judicial temperament" and was surprised to find him petty, defensive and mean.
Harry Doghiney (D-TX)

Idealism meets reality....


GravatarY'all keep your fraking vague and general now, you hear?
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Gravatarholy fraking shit, indeed, 4lg.
euphronius


I kind of knew that was coming.


Gravataris that really kara?


GravatarI know one day will be appreciated on the same level as Krush Groove. Thers

It's already appreciated on the same level as Pootie Tang.


Gravatarthere's gonna be spoilers here, I can tell....

I'm out....

night bats.


GravatarNow here's the real way to wear the flag:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U...h? v=USk8R82JcjM


GravatarI kind of knew that was coming.

Did Jane Badler pull her face off?


GravatarThe ending was freaky.

What, I was the only one expecting a triple decker snowcone?


Gravatar-Thers 23:06


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Coincidence?


GravatarMy acquaintance expected Scalia to have a "judicial temperament" and was surprised to find him petty, defensive and mean.

Huh.

From his rulings I always thought he would be petty and mean.


GravatarNixon. So venal even the FBI wouldn't take him.

And Bush is worse.


GravatarWhy you watch so much tv?


Gravatar
What, I was the only one expecting a triple decker snowcone?


Well, if you recall the earlier character establishment, Tory's the icycoldest civilian in ALL OF HUMANITY.


GravatarWhat, I was the only one expecting a triple decker snowcone?

I wuz too.

Was hoping she would pull it off. Being human sucks apparently.


GravatarI saw the reply count at 666 and could not help myself..BWAHAHAHAH...Still recovering fromm the rebirth of the Weather Undeground. Digging a former Hitler Jugend Pope telling us he is proud of our faith....Ve have ways.


Gravatartory did the right thing. the baby iz too important


Gravatarn late 2006, Congress revised the Posse Comitatus Act and the Insurrection Act to make it far easier for a president to declare martial law. Those changes were repealed at the end of this January as part of Public Law 110-181 (HR 4986), the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008 (signed into law by President Bush on January 28, 200.

Senator Patrick Leahy (D-Vt), who championed the opposition to the original law, was also the hero of the repeal. It helped that all the nation’s governors opposed the 2006 law.
http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008...-law-provision/


GravatarWell, if you recall the earlier character establishment, Tory's the icycoldest civilian in ALL OF HUMANITY.

Oh, true. Thought maybe the wife would suprise us.


GravatarNixon. So venal even the FBI wouldn't take him.

The FBI is all about venality and was far worse back then, under Hoover; if anything the Bureau sniffed a degree of spine and self-esteem that would interfere with the required total loyalty to J. Edgar.


GravatarWhy you watch so much tv? Ali

It's the only way I can keep myself from being too smart for my own good.


Gravatartory iz also hawt as hell. dayum.


GravatarRight. Nixon was a man with too much spine and self-esteem.

Where were you in the Nixon years?


GravatarIt's the only way I can keep myself from being too smart for my own good.

I don't mind being too smart for my own good.


GravatarNow here's the real way to wear the flag:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U...h? v=USk8R82JcjM
Echidne

... well .. He does have a beautiful ... voice.


GravatarWhat is Krush Groove? Is soda?


GravatarI don't mind being too smart for my own good.

I'll never be that smart.

G'night kiddies. It's late in the CDT.


GravatarWhich is why they, together with the youth vote, have embraced Obama.
Duane V, Bitter Classist

I don't recall this happening in any of the 30 primaries so far. Do you have a link?
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QuentinCompson, Negatory

http://www.time.com/time/ politic...1700525,00.html

http://www.salon.com/opinion/wal...04/11/pavoters/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/20...- o_n_86322.html

Happy Reading!


GravatarI don't mind being too smart for my own good. fourlegsgood

If you don't mind spending all your time smarting.


GravatarIf you don't mind spending all your time smarting.


I always liked smartees


GravatarOkay, but your generation sucks.


GravatarWe are the youth vote, and we have obeyed Obama.
Barack is the new Black -- President.


GravatarI always liked smartees -fourlegsgood

You're a real sweet-tart!


GravatarMaddie, NO BITEY!!!


GravatarI'm not very good at this punning thing.

Where'd watertiger go?


Gravatar fourlegsgood, randomly bitter

You should change that to "randomly bitten"


GravatarYou should change that to "randomly bitten"

Good idea.

She sits behind me on the cushion of my chair, wrapped around my haid.

Then she leans forward and rubs on my cheek and then CHOMPS on my glasses.


GravatarI put up overnight sheets, given the large number of wise and deep comments on this thread.


GravatarWhich is why they, together with the youth vote, have embraced Obama.
Duane V, Bitter Classist

I don't recall this happening in any of the 30 primaries so far. Do you have a link?
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QuentinCompson, Negatory

Want more?

http://www.jedreport.com/2008/03...k-obamas- m.html

have I made my point yet?


GravatarHappy Reading!
Duane V, Bitter Classist |


Thanks. Sorry that it wasn't more clear that I was referring to the white working class vote, which the referenced article was about. The first link to Time is about Yoots only and does not anywhere mention white working class.

The second link to Salon does not mention any primary. The third link to Huffnpuff similarly does not anywhere mention white working class.

So I would have to say that all three of those are 100% nonresponsive to:

Which is why they, together with the youth vote, have embraced Obama.
Duane V, Bitter Classist

I don't recall this happening in any of the 30 primaries so far. Do you have a link?


So let me clarify: is there a link to data etc. showing a primary where Obama carried more of the white working class vote than Hillary, as a minimum indication of "embrace Obama"? I call myself paying attention to that sort of shit and I simply do not recall it happening so far, but 30 primiaries have a lot of tabs etc.

The link would need to address at least one primary result and its white working class vote breakout, say by exit poll or whatever. And btw, that Jed Report link also does not anywhere mention the white working class. And thanks for the effort - if it has happened I would sure like to see it, because I may have missed something.
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GravatarUPDATE: Yes, I mean YOU specifically

yeah, well, whatever YOU do - don't go out on a limb yourself with any specifics... tough guy.

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GravatarRule #1: there are no rules
rule #2: no outside food


Gravatarno racism? Oh, you mean like Jane Hamsher putting blackface on Joe Leiberman or Steve Gailliard calling Michael Steele "Sambo"- or no sexism, like all the ballbuster and bitch posts about Hillary Clinton by Obama lickspittles?

You mean like that?


Gravatar
1. No Sexism.
2. No Racism.
3. No parroting of MSM/Wingnut bullshit.


What are you, some kind of fag?


Gravatarhttp://www.oliverwillis.com/wp-c.../ calvinball.jpg


GravatarI'm glad to hear that Obama is a "populist liberal," whatever the fuck that means. How's that universal health care plan coming?


GravatarThank you!!!

The fauxgressives are getting on my last nerve.


GravatarAt some point, you get into 'you're either with us or against us' territory. At others, you get into 'my priorities matter, yours don't' territory. There's a reason lefties don't like ultimatums. They are bad for group cohesion.

Sexism is bad, but not everyone is going to agree on what counts as sexist and what doesn't. Remember 'periodically'? Racism is bad, but not everyone agrees with what is racist, just read MY's comments on the 'boy' remark. People who care about classism will be pissed that racism and sexism get special treatment, and will likely point to the fact that most bloggers are upper-class as a reason. Many gay-rights types will be upset that gender and race get this treatment, but the blogosphere will get behind dems who favor DOMA, while not even considering dems who oppose Abortion.

If you continue down this road, you make a party so narrow that it will have almost no adherents. If you do not, you grant some forms of bigotry an get out of jail free card. It would have been wise not to even start down it.


GravatarEwww, soulite is now on Eschaton? Time to cancel my subscription. Apparrently, I am a racist in some narrowly, disagreeable undefined way.


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