I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

Gravatardon't break the bed...


GravatarI bet I could get the home run, what with there only being 33 on here...


Gravatarbut that's not much of a challenge, is it?


Gravataror...I could just go and break my own bed...


Gravatarhey, up to 35 on now!


GravatarI wonder if the sheets are on my bed???


Gravatarokay, so I called sheets...


GravatarJohn S must be stopped.


GravatarBed sounds good.


GravatarStreeeeeeeeeeeetch, roooooooolllllll, stretch again.

Pass out.


GravatarMe, I'm pondering that terrorist attacks used to be aimed at embassies, houses of parliament and government offices.

Now they're aimed at financial centers and HQs of multinational corporations.

Somebody got smart somewhere about something.


GravatarI'd go to bed, but M is sleepy, so why bother?


Gravatar7 the not so hard way...


Gravatarhttp://missannieangel.blogspot.c...iness- time.html

Wrong night, Ror.


GravatarBREAKING: I'm going to bed.


oh yeah? come back here and entertain us insomniacs!


GravatarSomebody got smart somewhere about something.

Started with the IRA. Not well known in this country, but, the preponderance of IRA attacks were on the financial centers of London, after hours. The emphasis wasn't on killing Brits randomly, but, rather, to disable the financial system.


Gravatard'you just throw this shit around all the time

Yes!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3...related& search=


Gravatarsomethin' has changed, man. you used to be all about the music.


GravatarI'm wearing my business socks.


GravatarGo show her your sexy dance.


GravatarI'm wearing my business socks.

Had some of those once. They wore out before I did....


Gravatarmumbai bai ...


Gravatar2 minutes in heaven are better than 1 minute in heaven, I always say.


GravatarIt is a WISE IDEA to base the ECONOMY on GROWTH because we know that the Earth is always expanding and getting ever bigger to accomodate the ever expanding population of Well-To-Do Home Buyers. And it is always possible for the mighty dollar to be worth LESS than it is today since it is not based on anything of VALUE.


GravatarWe should base the economy on the use of CAPITAL LETTERS!


GravatarWe should base the economy on the use of CAPITAL LETTERS!

That would keep the trolls gainfully employed, that's fer sure....


GravatarA man without land is nothing.


GravatarGood night, sweet friends.


GravatarA man without land is nothing.

So are you. So what?


Gravatarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3...h? v=3HqQoLq5c2c


GravatarSew buttons for the Red Cross.


Gravatarunless one of the thirtynine of you still here has something to say, I'll have to go back and review my notes, and relisten to all thes youtubes you have given me tonight. Thanks to all who gave me bookmarks. I love y'all, I do.


GravatarSweeney Todd is a very good film, I have to say.

(But then, I think that both leads are extremely hot.)


Gravatarwasn't i always a friend to you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H...h? v=HgurcPGw_GU

Alejandro Escovedo


GravatarBed, bed...what is bed?


GravatarBed AND bed, what is bed?


Gravatarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C...related& search=

Getin' late.

see whay else I can find.



Gravatar"what"


GravatarButtons.


GravatarThis laker is back in town bitches.


GravatarA man without land is nothing.
annie


Don't start estupido.


GravatarLOL, look up the quote. And the context considering the post two above mine.

No one READS BOOKS anymore.

I'm going to bed. Rejoice.


GravatarWal-Mart worker dies after shoppers knock him down

NEW YORK (AP) - A Wal-Mart worker was killed Friday when "out-of-control" shoppers desperate for bargains broke down the doors at a 5 a.m. sale. Other workers were trampled as they tried to rescue the man, and customers shouted angrily and kept shopping when store officials said they were closing because of the death, police and witnesses said.


GravatarThis laker is back in town bitches.

Since you are (back in town, that is), is anyone looking a bit more carefully into how Todd Palin built a $550,000 eleven-room house in his spare time, in between racin' snowmobiles, fishin' an' bein' a good union worker in the oilfields?


GravatarLand... how much does it take Annie.

Quarter acre in Austin, or 500 sections in Montana?

What is the measure of a man? Eh?

Not by the land he holds, but by the values he holds in his head.

Dang... did I just write that, or read that.

needs to be repeated.


GravatarTell it to Duddy. LOL, afucking-gain.

Later, laker bitches.


GravatarButtons.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N...h? v=Nut9TpD0CU8

'Night all.



GravatarSince you are (back in town, that is), is anyone looking a bit more carefully into how Todd Palin built a $550,000 eleven-room house in his spare time, in between racin' snowmobiles, fishin' an' bein' a good union worker in the oilfields?
montag


I'm silently trying for the FAA violation on Todd.

It could be real serious, he flew a head of state, *state* with the us amorphism, but he dorked up.


GravatarWal-Mart worker dies after shoppers knock him down

1st belly laugh

A Wal-Mart worker was killed Friday when "out-of-control" shoppers desperate for bargains broke down the doors at a 5 a.m. sale.

2nd and 3rd belly laugh

Other workers were trampled as they tried to rescue the man, and customers shouted angrily and kept shopping when store officials said they were closing because of the death, police and witnesses said.

I'm on the floor and hysterical with that one.


GravatarItems on sale at the store included a Samsung 50-inch Plasma HDTV for $798, a Bissel Compact Upright Vacuum for $28, a Samsung 10.2 megapixel digital camera for $69 and DVDs such as "The Incredible Hulk" for $9.


GravatarIt could be real serious, he flew a head of state, *state* with the us amorphism, but he dorked up.

Didn't even know he had a pilot's license. `Course, what do I know... you might get a CDL and a pilot's rating on your driver's license in Alaska just for the asking....


Gravatarwow, butler you are one sick and lonely fuck ... get help soon ...


GravatarY'know, I don't think Einstein owned any real property in his entire life....


GravatarWittgenstein gave all his huge inheritance away, including a nice bit for the poet Rilke.


GravatarLOL, look up the quote. And the context considering the post two above mine.
No one READS BOOKS anymore. annie | 11.29.08 - 2:47 am |



the "quote" (and context) is from a fictional novel called The Apprenticeship of Duddy Kravitz

Duddy only thinks about the land’s development for profit. Lac St. Pierre is Duddy’s dream. He lies, cheats, and steals to buy the land, which is equated with the Promised Land.

[...]

Duddy finally owns all the land, but embarrasses his grandfather who is unhappy with the way he obtained the land. (Duddy had obtained the final portion of the land after stealing from Virgil.) This robbery prompts Yvette and Virgil to move out of the mansion and to ban Duddy from ever seeing them again. Finally when all is said and done, Duddy is happy that he accomplished his goal of owning land and being somebody. The ending of the novel is ambiguous. Duddy's selfishness and ruthless materialism are obviously negative qualities. On the other hand, Duddy's youth and underdog status are ameliorating factors, and his entrepreneurial creativity is admirable. In the end, we can't help admire Duddy despite his many flaws.

An older Duddy makes brief, comic appearances in Richler's later novels. Duddy never loses his drive to make money.


oh, yay, rejoice.

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GravatarThe value of a man is not in his lands, its always been in the values of his head.

Annie can go go fucke her self, go talk to the vicar, and I do not care. I have no "of the body" relationship with that piece of scum.


Holy body doesn't keep me warm.

Not with Annie.


GravatarThe 100 or so officers left behind nine police vans. Protesters promptly let the air out of the tires.

I think this defines 'non-violent protest'


GravatarI think this defines 'non-violent protest'
____league


Nice try troll.

foad.


Gravatarand now you know where the perjorative "a dud" comes from. (farmers don't let your children grow up to be duddies).

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GravatarBarry

put down the bottle and back slowly away.


GravatarBring the fuckers down. Which was the conversation I was trying to start before. The Harper Goverment was trying to backout of an agreement struck under the previous Liberal goverment when the wingnuts were complaining about their significant fundraising ability of the Liberals.

Now the fucks want to bring us bankrupt us by doing away with the current system of $1.95 per vote. Bring it on fuckers. You broke a covenant you made with us.

Your time is done.


GravatarHorseshit. The police come because people get stomped to death, and letting the air out of their vehicles' tires is "non-violent protest?"

Somebody's got their priorities wired up all wrong.


GravatarJim Awad of Awad Asset Management.


Gravatar(º)(º)


GravatarHorseshit. The police come because people get stomped to death, and letting the air out of their vehicles' tires is "non-violent protest?"

Are you talking about the Walmart trampling? I guess I should have provided context. I took the quote from a CNN story about the airport blockage in Thailand.


GravatarI guess I should have provided context. I took the quote from a CNN story about the airport blockage in Thailand.

Well, yes, context would be helpful, since that wasn't a topic of conversation in this thread. Not all of us are watching or reading what you are, and, contrary to popular opinion, most of us aren't mind readers....


GravatarWe did not post this past Sunday. We will post next on Sunday, November 30.

Posted by Richard Posner

http://www.becker-posner-blog.com/


Gravatar
Posted by Richard Posner


Who cares? Ever since that little piece of chicken shit defended Bush v. Gore, he's lost all credibility.


GravatarDo Depressions Have a Silver Lining?


http://www.becker-posner-blog.com/


GravatarOr, should I say, what little credibility he ever possessed. Another Federalist Society shill.


GravatarDo Depressions Have a Silver Lining?

For the very wealthy, yes. I quote the originator of the trickle-down theory, Andrew Mellon: "It is during depressions that assets return to their rightful owners."

Prick.


GravatarWe did not post this past Sunday. We will post next on Sunday, November 30. Posted by Richard Posner

Take Sundays off. we'll get back to ya. Someday.

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Gravatarno, 6


Gravatarno, 6

You're up early (or, perhaps, I'm up late).


GravatarWhat's great is playing Stan Rogers as loud as possible, nad the dog undstands.


GravatarUp early

fucking ulcer is kicking my ass


GravatarWhat's great is playing Stan Rogers as loud as possible, nad the dog undstands.

A profitable use of one's time, that is.


Gravatar"What's great is playing Stan Rogers as loud as possible,"

is this the canadian folk singer?


Gravatarfucking ulcer is kicking my ass

Are you being treated for H.pylori?


Gravatar"Are you being treated for H.pylori?"

if that's latin for "an ulcer" then yes.

a lot of the control is diet and I was stupid tonight.


GravatarWTF? It ain't "breaking" if the flashing siren graphic is not present.


Gravatarif that's latin for "an ulcer" then yes.

a lot of the control is diet and I was stupid tonight.


It's the name for the recently-discovered bacteria that's responsible for most stomach ulcers (helicobacter pylori).

If you haven't been tested for it, you really should be. Might save a lot of discomfort.


Gravatar"If you haven't been tested for it, you really should be. Might save a lot of discomfort."

If I watch what I eat I'm usually good - but I'll look into it.


GravatarI think my favorite Stan Rogers' tune is "Field Behind the Plow." Maybe because, between my grandfather and myself, we spent a lot of our lives plowing.


GravatarIf I watch what I eat I'm usually good - but I'll look into it.

Better that it gets healed permanently, rather than being treated by symptoms. Otherwise, you miss out on all those chiles.


GravatarMontag is right about the bacterial cause of ulcers. Many doctors have still not accepted this theory, in spite of how ineffective diet and life style changes are at making ulcers less destructive.

I think the doc who discovered this won a Nobel prize for Medicine a few years ago. The original test was kind of weird involving radioactive stuff in your stomach, but they now can test for this with a blood test that looks for an antibody.


GravatarMy father had a persistent moderately severe ulcer for a couple of years and he got H. pylori-specific treatment and it was gone in a month or so.

Definitely worth checking into. ~!~


Gravatar"Definitely worth checking into. ~!~"

hard to do before dawn but I'll look into it asap.


GravatarMy son is obsessively watching that YouTube video that Atrios posted here Wednesday night. "He's Mr. Green Christmas...He's Mr. White Christmas"

Yes, at 3:30 in the morning.


Gravatarhard to do before dawn but I'll look into it asap.

If this were France, you could call and have a house call right away, no matter the time.

*sigh*


Gravatar"If this were France, you could call and have a house call right away, no matter the time."

but

amerikkah is da greatest country in da woild!!


GravatarMontag is right about the bacterial cause of ulcers. Many doctors have still not accepted this theory, in spite of how ineffective diet and life style changes are at making ulcers less destructive.

Diabetic support hosiery is a much misunderstood and underappreciated topic among political blog threads. Many people (including Canadian folk singers) have died in and around Cincinnati Ohio.

Discuss.

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GravatarIf this were France, you could call and have a house call right away, no matter the time.

*sigh*
montag


Careful, "this" might be France for some of us

Here in Croatia the system is similar, we drop in any time, get tested, get a prescription, and get our medication at no cost.

No house calls yet though, we'll have to work on that ...


GravatarCareful, "this" might be France for some of us

Well, just considering point of origin....


GravatarDiscuss.
the farmer


The Farmers were a shitty 80s grunge band that tried, unsuccessfully, to mix bluegrass rhythms with vaguely baroque ornamentations centered on the ii V I. The lead singer died of lime jello tequila shots in a Lodi motel.


Gravatari truly detest tequila. never touch it myself. they deserve what they got just for that.

discuss.

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Gravatarm out

tums are working


GravatarHey fucking Jude.

I will always persist.


GravatarI will always persist.

Pardon, but, at what?


Gravatarmorning, all.

coming soon to a sky near you, conjunction of planets Jupiter and Venus with the moon, in the SW if you are in the U.S. Monday should be the closest point they come together.

And for now, you can go look at rors' Gramsci vegging out at http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com/


GravatarI will always persist.

I understand. I founded H. Pylori and the Ulcer Bacteria in 1982. We were pretty good until canker sores and herpes simplex (and the death of our bass player from an overdose of a Tequilla in Gainsville FL) forced us into retirement in 1984. Ever since then tequilla has always reminded me of death and vomit. Which was the name of our next band founded in 1985 - (Death and Vomit). We disbanded in 1989. You probably heard of us. I currently play with "Diabetic Hosiery".... persistence is important! And I only point this out here because the Eschaton threads are the funnest most imaginative persistent place in the lefty bloggysphere. Ever.

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GravatarI will give no hit to the WaPo, Ruth Marcus article with the title "No Girly Dog for Obama". Ick, ickier, ickiest.


Gravatartetanus rules.


Gravatartetanus rules.

they were really good. i bought a station wagon and 100 quaaludes from them in 1979.

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GravatarMorning peeps.

I was confronted with full frontal stupid yesterday evening. Turn the entire M.E. into a sheet of glass, except Israel, and get our oil from the Caspian Sea. And we are not as safe as we were because Congress will not allow the President to order anyone's assassination anymore. Seriously. 007 has been put out of commission. I was told I am an idealist that doesn't live in the real world. All of this from a Democrat who considers himself liberal.


Gravatarql, sounds like Teh Troll was namestealing, sort of.

but sure, 007 was marathoned on /sci-fi channel so someone exceeded their recommended limit of fantasy.

here you go, buy stock in Coates;
'when people are unemployed, they save money in a logical way by not buying "small durables" such as socks and, indeed, clothes in general. In the short term, people get by and save about 15 percent of their household budget. When they find a new job, they replace the tired old socks. Bad news for Gold Toe, good news for sellers of needles and thread.'
http://www.slate.com/id/2205562/


Gravatarthe quaaludes have been recalled. Melamine content over 2.5 parts per million. (that's the amount allowed in infant formula)


GravatarTurn the entire M.E. into a sheet of glass, except Israel, and get our oil from the Caspian Sea.
qlª - more lefty than you


Was it a long-time lefty, or a former gooper who changed parties? If a lefty, then that's a definite first for me.


Gravatarthe quaaludes have been recalled

sadly, yes. along with the station wagon. On the bright side, all the infants produced in the back seat are doing just fine.

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GravatarAnd I only point this out here because the Eschaton threads are the funnest most imaginative persistent place in the lefty bloggysphere. Ever.

What about "The Grundrisse of J.Alfred Lambert Strether"?


GravatarIt was a long time Dem, college educated. Gets all his news from teevee. The 007 bit was from rethugs who voted for Obama cause their party has left them. I think they are on some email list cause they are always coming out with shit like that. Must be Limpballs latest talking point.


GravatarI will give no hit to the WaPo, Ruth Marcus article with the title "No Girly Dog for Obama". Ick, ickier, ickiest.
Ruth | Homepage | 11.29.08 - 5:37 am | #


She's writing articles for a collection called "Waltzing into irrelevance: the Washington Post's Final Days. Deep in the denial bunker with the Kewl Kids."


GravatarWhat about "The Grundrisse of J.Alfred Lambert Strether"?
rootless-e, stinking9 | 11.29.08 - 5:57 am | #


Oh no! Good lord don't get me started making fun of the mentaly ill. Not at this hour.

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GravatarGlad to hear the backseet generation is thriving, or at leest bearing up.

Anyone with a college ed who says the M.E. should be turned into glass parking lot should be recalled, too.


GravatarAnyone with a college ed who says the M.E. should be turned into glass parking lot should be recalled, too.
Ruth | Homepage | 11.29.08 - 6:03 am | #


Some people are just so fearful that mega-genocide seems safe to them. They deserve incarceration, not pity.


Gravatarrootless-e, 'fearful' does not seem to me like a good definition of homicidal reactions. 'frightful', maybe


Gravatarokay
How do you get surprised by 7 MN barrels? 'But demand has shown little indication of rebounding soon, and global crude stockpiles are growing - as evidenced by a U.S. government report showing a surprisingly large 7 million barrel build in stocks last week.'
http://money.cnn.com/2008/11/28/...ec.ap/ index.htm


Gravatar'fearful' does not seem to me like a good definition of homicidal reactions. 'frightful', maybe

fearful would be the motivating cause. frightful would be the result.

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Gravatarthe farmer ROCKS!


GravatarWho's offering quaaludes? I'm in!


GravatarThey still make quaaludes?
Maaaaaaaan.....


Gravatarfearful would be the motivating cause. frightful would be the result.

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the farmer | 11.29.08 - 6:20 am | #


Yes.


GravatarFrightful truthfully describes the mindset, indeed, farmer.

rors, your vegging cat is still at the top over at the cab. But I predict that will end around 6 CT


GravatarGood lord don't get me started making fun of the mentaly ill. Not at this hour.


free speech is not
the right to make idiotic jeremiads
larded with racial anxiety
about matters of vital importance
without provoking ridicule and
disgust.


GravatarThey still make quaaludes?

no. at least not in this country. but they don't make station wagons like they used too either.

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GravatarMaria Barfarama is on my teebee! time to hear how nasty ol' soncumers are holding onto their pocket flaps to the detriment of our economy!


Gravatardaddy, what's a station wagon? like that record player you keep talking about?


GravatarThe WSJ expert is telling me if I don't buy NOW I wont get the best price, or even the right size and color! oh noooeees


GravatarIf what you were considering is a personal purchase, and not for xmas gifts, wait till after Christmas. Prices will be even lower then.


GravatarThe WSJ expert is telling me if I don't buy NOW I wont get the best price, or even the right size and color! oh noooeees
Ruth | Homepage | 11.29.08 - 6:38 am | #


To recycle an old joke: the difference between a TV stock market "expert" and a used car salesman is that generally the used car salesman knows when he is lying.


Gravatarrors, your vegging cat is still at the top over at the cab.

Huzzah!

I shall inform him; I expect I will get a confused look--but then, that is generally a safe bet.


GravatarDoug, the only problem will be finding a store that is still in business. My WSJ expert of the moment is saying it isn't a depression but a slowdown. Now I know it's the big D.


GravatarBREAKING:  i have to go to work today.

i was off yesterday and will be sunday and monday, so this feels weird.

it'll be really, really slow today, though not as slow as yesterday undoubtedly was.


Gravatarfree speech is not the right to make idiotic jeremiads
rootless-e, paleocommunist | 11.29.08 - 6:35 am


One of my favorite headlines at the cuckoowire (among many) for the sake of ridicule was titled:

"why does barack obama want my friend to keep bleeding into her shoes"

no link but you can google it. when you start writing headlines like that, with nothing but babbling nonsense to support it... you have come undone from any pier you were once moored to and you are drifting into the current of NewsMax or World Net Daily waters.

I asked you not to get me going on that awful island of vast bugfucking craziness.

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GravatarGramsci has been Friday Catblogging for awhile now. Guess I owe the others equal time, it's in their contract?


Gravatardoes gramsci get hegemonic control over catblogging or will there be a passive revolution (or canadian version: the passive-aggressive revolution) ?


GravatarRuth, if nothing else you'll be able to buy the merchandise from the liquidators appointed by the courts to clear out the store's stock.

Look around you, half the stores in a large town could close down, and there's still be too many of every kind with some rare exceptions.

My favorite tool store in this town is almost the opposite of a big box store, Instead of bubble packed merchandise that's cheap and cheaply, I like to buy from this guy who's store front looks like it could be owned by Sanford and sons, it's that seedy. He only sell quality new and used tools.

He has Mitatoyo calipers, and Kleekos, which you never see in the chain stores.


GravatarMagic Johnson is being barfarammed. Why is Maria's voice so strained? 'in the thick of things' which the 'rest of us' know so well... I swear to got, that's what she said.


GravatarIs that a serious question, Ruth? Refinery demand was less than expected, I'd say, is what that means. Been warm so far here. We've used less heating oil than projected. It does look like some of the reduced driving habits have stuck.

Other things are possible. The tankers may be moving faster.


GravatarMitatoyo calipers, and Kleekos

them don't sound very amurkin..


GravatarDoug, my town is kind of a hub for shoppers from north of Dallas and south of OK City, also a big swath east and west, it's got every kind of store. And a lot of them are dying. The local mall is about half full now.


GravatarJayackroyd, refinery demand is whatever the oil cos want it to be, recall Enron's claim of supply cutoffs and closing to retool? it's all the same aminal.


Gravatarkleekos are temporary pop rivets.
good for holding your airplane together if it starts to come apart during flight.


GravatarGramsci has been Friday Catblogging for awhile now. Guess I owe the others equal time, it's in their contract?
Ruth | Homepage | 11.29.08 - 6:52 am | #


They're fairly relaxed about the equal time clause, as long as they get their kitty treats.

does gramsci get hegemonic control over catblogging or will there be a passive revolution (or canadian version: the passive-aggressive revolution) ?
rootless-e, paleocommunist | 11.29.08 - 6:54 am | #


Gramsci is a pessimist of the intellect but an optimist of the will, when it comes to catblogging.


GravatarKleekos are a mostly aviation tool used to pull two holes together that otherwise won't align.


Gravataroptimism and pessimism are both attitudes about the future - and i don't think cats have attitudes about the future.


Gravatar

Kleekos
the miraculous google, which makes each of us an expert in everything except phoenix, tells me that this is actually spelled "cleco" (kleeko is a nickname, huh?) and is in fact a product line of the cooper power tool company which is based in south carolina.

it sounds like they're one of the companies that would be severely impacted by the collapse of the american auto industry.

see bob herbert's column.



GravatarSpelled "clecos" aren't they? I seem to remember them from a past life.


Gravatarmust be!


Gravataroptimism and pessimism are both attitudes about the future - and i don't think cats have attitudes about the future.
rootless-e, paleocommunist | 11.29.08 - 7:06 am | #


Treats-time is 5 PM in this household, and my cats all get very verbally optimistic around about 4:30, every day.


GravatarI've got a job interview Monday! Yaay!


GravatarTreats-time is 5 PM in this household, and my cats all get very verbally optimistic around about 4:30, every day.
rorschach, nobody | Homepage | 11.29.08 - 7:10 am | #


That's the command economy, dude. No optimism involved.


GravatarYou will nail it, daemon, I have great powers of prediction. The sun will rise, I am sure of that, too.


Gravatarrorschach is trained to feed treats at 5 p.m. to keep the cats off the dinner table, betcha.


GravatarThe sun will rise, I am sure of that, too.
Ruth | Homepage | 11.29.08 - 7:11 am | #


I'm like a sheep.

I'm always surprised when it happens.


GravatarThanks, Ruth! I believe that you do have the power, so that makes it true.


GravatarGood morning peeps


Gravatarrorschach is trained to feed treats at 5 p.m. to keep the cats off the dinner table, betcha.
Ruth | Homepage | 11.29.08 - 7:12 am | #


Hmm.

Cats OFF the dinner table.

A novel idea.


Gravataryou can have a privet
hedge
and pastoral medidations
but hydraulic shocks and pop rivets
rock my metal nation


GravatarCats OFF the dinner table.

A novel idea.
rorschach, nobody


Try putting a genuine, certified, artificial playstation on the table, then they will disappear. and play with shoestrings, as they ought to.

Yay, daemon, you believe rightly. Contributions are accepted ...


Gravatartime for me and biscuits to rise


Gravatarcats prefer wii?


GravatarToo broke for tithes but...

Long Live Ruth


GravatarDiane posting on the suddenly rediscovered moral indignation at the crimes of the WH by our sometimes media, at http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com/


GravatarGood morning, beautiful people.

The princessification continues apace.


GravatarMorning, rational people.


GravatarI ♥ Ruth as much as my cats ♥ plastic milk bottle rings.


GravatarOh, well, at my next deification i'm going for the upper Manhattan addresses only


GravatarMolly beat me at Scrabble again. I am developing a complex.


GravatarDiane posting on the suddenly rediscovered moral indignation at the crimes of the WH by our sometimes media, at http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com/
Ruth | Homepage | 11.29.08 - 7:20 am | #


Farewell, fair Gramsci.


GravatarThe princessification continues apace.

i think i missed the context for this in the pre-holiday frenzy.

i'm still back on chickens and washer/dryers. 


Gravatarooo, plastic milk bottle rings are of the divine nature, indeed.

And Diane's cats are worshipful about the twisties off the bread


GravatarJapanese scientists find Gravity Anomalys on moon.
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2008/ 04...6_kaguya_e.html

Keys up the theme from the movie "2001, a space odyssey".


GravatarMolly I,

I was horrified to learn that you were caught taking straight shots from the whipped cream cannister.

Have you learned nothing of stealth?


Gravatar"Under fire for his role in the near-collapse of Citigroup Inc., Robert Rubin said its problems were due to the buckling financial system, not its own mistakes, and that his role was peripheral to the bank's main operations even though he was one of its highest-paid officials."

""Nobody was prepared for this," Mr. Rubin said in an interview. He cited former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan as another example of someone whose reputation has been unfairly damaged by the crisis."

The Journal said Rubin has earned $115 million in pay since 1999, excluding stock options.

"I bet there's not a single year where I couldn't have gone somewhere else and made more," said Rubin, according to the Journal.


GravatarOne of my favorite headlines at the cuckoowire (among many) for the sake of ridicule was titled:

"why does barack obama want my friend to keep bleeding into her shoes"


really, you've got a lot of nerve.

i could post some rather...unhinged emails of yours, from back in the olde days, which would demonstrate rather clearly to people that you're in no position to call out lambert for being 'crazy' for his writing and invective. but i won't do that, and instead merely point out that in the title in question, lambert is speaking of a real person, a neighbor and shopkeeper in his town, who "bleeds into her shoes" because of an untreated illness (not the mental kind) which goes untreated because like tens of millions in this country, she has no health insurance. because he's a sensitive and caring man, for all people may not like what he writes these days and may find it extreme.

but seriously, it's ironic and funny that you're here so often these days, knocking on your old gang in bitterness and taking advantage of the fact that some of your former blogmates have become unpopular. you've never really been able to hide your jealousy, that lambert went out and did better without you at the new place than you were ever able to do at the old place. what, you've maintained all of like 300 visitors a day, on your own? how that must pain you, to know that your insanity was never more than a humorous feature, and merely tolerate by intelligent people who came to read everyone else's work, back in the day.

there is great deal with which i find myself in disagreement with lambert these days, and my real life has made it almost impossible to blog seriously, and for that i am sorry, even as i am sorry that the tenor of correntewire has changed over the last few months and there's been little i can contribute which will change that. but i will not sit back silently and allow *you* of all people to come here and act as if he is the crazy one, where there are 0000s of blog posts of yours which demonstrate that he's far more normal and balanced, if people were to compare the two of you. i know exactly what this is about: the bitter gloating of a loser who just can't help himself watching someone he hates losing that oh-so-important and essential popularity contest in the blogosphere.

i always thought you were petty, and i kept that mostly to myself these past years. but this is just a bridge too far. i'm going to forward this to leah, so she will know once and for all that you're really not worth the time and effort she's been wasting, trying to reconcile you with decent people. you disgust me, you hypocrite.


Gravatarooo, plastic milk bottle rings are of the divine nature, indeed.

And Diane's cats are worshipful about the twisties off the bread
Ruth | Homepage | 11.29.08 - 7:23 am | #


And we have to secure all rubber bands.

Otherwise, unfortunate incidents ensue.


Gravatarprincess Rosie has duly been painted inro her regal state then?


GravatarAnd we have to secure all rubber bands.

Otherwise, unfortunate incidents ensue.
rorschach, nobody


Yeh, here too also.

I just wish they'd bury the carcasses some place other than the bath tub.


Gravatarchicago dyke, sewing | Homepage | 11.29.08 - 7:23 am | #

Can anyone clue me in to what this is about?

Just wondering.


Gravatar
I just wish they'd bury the carcasses some place other than the bath tub.
Diane C. Barking-Mad | Homepage | 11.29.08 - 7:26 am | #


Indeed.


GravatarWell, there's one more wall to go, but it will happen today. Stoat, I am living in a cage, the bars of which are pink and purple. (shudder)

I meant to do this over Christmas break, but have you ever seen a little girl decide to redecorate her own room when she's been sharing with her brothers? Really, I had no choice.

Thers lies, Diane. That's all I'm sayin'....


GravatarChiDyke, sorry about all the altar-cations, it was and will be good again. The election was hard on a lot of people, and having to produce an opinion about it was a strain for lots of us. Fortunately, I can Birdblog wrapped turkee and no one will say that's over or under the top.


GravatarI am living in a cage, the bars of which are pink and purple. (shudder)


Do I sense a Charlotte Perkins Gilman moment coming on?


Gravatari think i can sort of imagine, molly... my eldest, now twenty, had the princess bug real bad.




GravatarThers lies, Diane. That's all I'm sayin'....
Molly Ivors




Gravatarrorschach, Gramsci can rest on faded laurels for awhile, sending a virtual rodent of his choice in thanks for his good services.


GravatarCan anyone clue me in to what this is about?

Just pass the popcorn, please...


GravatarI am 'getting' why someone asked Atrios to remove Corrente from his blog roll yesterday...


Gravatarwell, the first time I painted this room, the appalling 70's circus themed wallpaper bled through. Ditto the second time, and the wallpaper we went with next.

I think it's finally dead, though.

(((chidyke)))


GravatarThe 4 year old has a new strategy. He slugs the 19 month old then puts himself in time out before we can say anything.

He has decided the cost benefit ratio is worthwhile. We have to devise something new.


Gravatarrorschach, Gramsci can rest on faded laurels for awhile, sending a virtual rodent of his choice in thanks for his good services.
Ruth | Homepage | 11.29.08 - 7:31 am | #


I will let him know.

(Confused look shortly to follow, of course)


Gravatartrifecta,
Try the lecture. They hate it beyond all things.

When I start with "We're not a hitting family" routine, they run screaming.


GravatarChiDyke, sorry about all the altar-cations, it was and will be good again.

i have to say, that was a helluva post... all the more devastating for its measured, even-handed tone and overall fairness.




Gravatarror, my apologies. i have tried, and obviously just failed, to keep that backbiting private and not polluting the common space.

the The Farmer is *crazy.* a muthafucking shitheel of a mental patient. if you've ever read his work, you will see what i'm talking about.

it's really fashionable, right now, to hate on Lambert, my blogmate at correntewire. he's earned it, he can take it, and i don't defend the work of his with which i disagree or think is misfocused. but i will stand by the following: he is not a racist, he is not insane, he has legitimate concerns that he has been expressing, however flawed the manner, and the farmer is the last fucking person on earth who deserves to come here and make hay of that. like i said: unpopular crazy bloggers who can't hold an audience of serious people are merely being ironic and bitter by mocking those who descend into similar behavior.


GravatarGood morning. I'd like to report great insight gained from my trip to the states, but, alas, there is none. Lots of people acting much like they acted last time I was here, which is a lot like people act back home, in Europe, the Middle East and everywhere else I've been.

The most notable thing is that there are a hell of a lot of people here. America's a big place; the size of the country runs it, I think, more than is credited.


GravatarThanks for the explanation, chidyke.


Gravatartrifecta,
Try the lecture. They hate it beyond all things.
*
When I was a racehorse groom, 'the lecture' worked amazing well. Tied to the wall, the more I admonished from my seat in the straw behind them, the more anxiously they twitched ears and shifted weight from one set of legs to the other.


Gravatar{{{{{{{chi dyke}}}}}}}}}
fwiw, I visit Corrente just about every day. We are not rethugs and dissenting opinions are important, even when I don't agree with them.


Gravatarwell, if i'm going to make my special guest star appearance at work today i'd better get moving.

it will not be very busy, but i still can't get away with showing up in my bathrobe and slippers.


GravatarMeanwhile, very interesting things are happening politically in my adopted country.


GravatarMorning, folks. I'm scared, and standing at the edge of a major depression. I wish it weren't so.


Gravatar"Under fire for his role in the near-collapse of Citigroup Inc., Robert Rubin said its problems were due to the buckling financial system, not its own mistakes, and that his role was peripheral to the bank's main operations even though he was one of its highest-paid officials."


Yeah,like he was only the fucking janitor.


Gravatari still can't get away with showing up in my bathrobe and slippers.

Unfair!


GravatarHi plantsman. We're here, for what that's worth. Something, maybe.


Gravatarthe size of the country runs it, I think, more than is credited.

What do you mean?


Gravatarthe first time I painted this room, the appalling 70's circus themed wallpaper bled through.

I LOVE circus-themed wallpaper!


GravatarMorning, folks. I'm scared, and standing at the edge of a major depression. I wish it weren't so.
plantsman | 11.29.08 - 7:39 am | #


Sorry to hear it, plantsman.


Gravatarplantsman, welcome here, and if we can help, you know we will.


Gravatari still can't get away with showing up in my bathrobe and slippers.

Unfair!
Molly Ivors | Homepage | 11.29.08 - 7:39 am | #


I concur!


GravatarWhat's going on, Plantsman?


Gravatari will stand by the following: he is not a racist, he is not insane...

Good luck with that.


GravatarI know. It's personal and financial, stresses I hate most of all at this time of year. Very shortly, it becomes medical -- and that I tried to avoid.


Gravatargood morning, plantsman.

i'm on my way out... no avoiding it... but i always look forward to hearing from you in the mornings.  it's such a great group, and you're a crucial part of it.

laterz, folks.


GravatarMoe, you visited VA, right? I lived many years in Hampton, found it was a lovely place if a bit sure that if you weren't descended from a forefather you just didn't get in on the front row. No reserved pew for me.


Gravatarplantsman, do you have any food?


GravatarWhat do you mean?

Hell of a lot of people, driving a hell of a lot of cars, buying a hell of a lot of fast food, filling up a hell of a lot of malls, churches, barrooms and whatever. Creates its own economy, with internal ramifications that aren't realized in places with fewer people.


GravatarI know. It's personal and financial, stresses I hate most of all at this time of year. Very shortly, it becomes medical -- and that I tried to avoid.
plantsman | 11.29.08 - 7:41 am | #


I know what you mean. The shit does pile up fast, and it really can drag your body down.


GravatarMeanwhile, very interesting things are happening politically in my adopted country.

I was going to mention that...

I can't imagine the political machinations that must be going on in Ottawa these days.


GravatarI can't imagine the political machinations that must be going on in Ottawa these days.
SteveNS


Plum and I were discussing it last night. The implications of the Bloc holding the balance of power- ha!

I haven't really thought this out yet, but I think the Obama election might have given the Liberals permission to have a backbone. Something I hadn't really seen before in Canada is people behaving like statesmen.


GravatarI'm on the edge of that cliff too, Plantsman. This too shall pass.


Gravatarmoe, the story of the worker being trampled to death yesterday by hoards of shoppers who just had to be the first in at 5:00 a.m., caused me to turn off the news and watch Bette Davis movies all day. We are on the precipice of a real financial depression and people just refuse to believe it or act accordingly. One woman camped out 48 hrs., depriving her family of TDay dinner to be amongst the first. Or to get on teevee. Doesn't matter.


Gravatarhow can i help you, plants, my friend? do you want jokes? pr0n? newz? limericks?

i'm ashamed to say i've been up all night (o, insomnia!) and i'm not completely sober. so take advantage of me, like the chickee who spanked me raw last night. i'm yours.


GravatarSome of you are aware of my situation. The reality of 30-day refills butts up against a 365-day year eventually no matter what one does. I try always to communicate with my family to assure that I will not run out of blood pressure and diabetes meds, which I'm not supposed to do. I thought I did so last Sunday speaking to my Dad and asking him to help make sure I could get my refills next Monday -- but the funds did not arrive by yesterday's mail, which means even if they arrive today, they won't be available until Tuesday, which means running out of a BP med that's not supposed to be stopped abruptly. Only for a day, but it's a worry.


Gravatarhazzah! $13 in washing machine money.


GravatarI haven't really thought this out yet, but I think the Obama election might have given the Liberals permission to have a backbone. Something I hadn't really seen before in Canada is people behaving like statesmen.

I would welcome more political gutsiness. Hope it's not just a temporary situation.


GravatarI worry about the easy scorn of conventional wisdom: HRC is a bitch! Sarah Palin is a rube! Lambert is a loon!

Seems to me it's a shorthand which stands in for actual analysis.

But I have to do a podcast on Paradise Lost, so I'll shut up now.


Gravatarthe story of the worker being trampled to death yesterday by hoards of shoppers

Then there's the shoot-out at the Toys-R-Us.

And the shoot-out at the Thanksgiving Parade.

Happy freaking holidays.


Gravatar{{{plantsman}}}


Gravatarplantsman, get to an emergency room today.


GravatarHey, WV!


GravatarBut I have to do a podcast on Paradise Lost

Sorry, what's this?

I'm so out of the loop these days.


GravatarBut I have to do a podcast on Paradise Lost, so I'll shut up now.
Molly Ivors


Satan is an angel!


Gravatarso take advantage of me, like the chickee who spanked me raw last night. i'm yours.
chicago dyke, sewing | Homepage | 11.29.08 - 7:47 am | #


*swoons*


GravatarWish I were in a position to send you actual cash rather than virtual hugz, dood.


GravatarPolice said about 2,000 people were gathered outside the Wal-Mart doors before its 5 a.m. opening at a mall about 20 miles east of Manhattan. The impatient crowd knocked the employee, identified by police as Jdimytai Damour, to the ground as he opened the doors, leaving a metal portion of the frame crumpled like an accordion...

Dozens of store employees trying to fight their way out to help Damour were also getting trampled by the crowd, Fleming said. Shoppers stepped over the man on the ground and streamed into the store...

Kimberly Cribbs, who witnessed the stampede, said shoppers were acting like "savages."

"When they were saying they had to leave, that an employee got killed, people were yelling 'I've been on line since yesterday morning,'" she said. "They kept shopping."


Now why is it that I think if that guy's name had been, say, John Smith, the crowd would have been a little more concerned?


Gravatarql-- the trampling to death thing, yea. I suppose it happens in other countries, too, but somehow it seems so American.

Maybe I'm just living in too small a city. I was driving around Norfolk yesterday-- it's not exactly Gotham--- and the traffic was mind-boggling.


GravatarGood luck with that.
dave™©


dave, i'm sure most people are completely bored with the back and forth about my website, as discussed here. so keeping it short, i'll only ask you to trust me when i say that i really mean that, Lambert is a flawed human being like the rest of us but he is not racist and he's not crazy. angry, polemical, going down a dark path of depression and personal difficulty that i think most of us here can relate to, even as we mostly keep it private. but lambert chooses to express himself, and all his moods, and isn't afraid of the shit he takes for it. i don't expect people to like or agree with him, but as ql says, we're not fascists, we value difference of opinion and perspective. there will come a day when people will turn on obama, and it will be interesting, at least to me, to see the hypocrisy of those who jumped on the hate lambert bandwagon, as they adopt the critiques he's making now for their own advantage. you, i do not accuse of this, just to be clear.


Gravatarplantsman, get to an emergency room today.
qlª - more lefty than you


I think that a good plan.


GravatarMaybe I'm just living in too small a city. I was driving around Norfolk yesterday-- it's not exactly Gotham--- and the traffic was mind-boggling.

And I think Halifax has crazy traffic!

This must be what the Amish feel like.


Gravatar{{{{{plantsman }}}}}


GravatarI disagree somewhat Moe. Trampling happens every year at Mecca. It happens occasionally at soccer matches.

I think for many, soccer is a religious frenzy, and the same can be said for American consumerism. It's our religion. But, the frenzy thing is only uniquely american when it comes to commerce.


Gravatarplantsman, having been a part of the local assistance group for awhile, I guarantee that you can get a bridge over the gap if you ask for it. For us, it was the town Assistance Ministries. Just ask at the fire house, you can get referred.


GravatarSteveNS, have you been feeling up the Amish? For shame.


GravatarAnd I think Halifax has crazy traffic!

Just on the Virginia Beach Turnpike-- they don't call it that anymore-- I realized I was seeing more cars, just then, in my field of vision, than I would see in maybe a month in Halifax.


GravatarSteveNS,
My students were having trouble reading Milton, so I'm reading to them, into the computer, and posting it.

I's a curious process.


Gravatarplants, my research suggests that cinnamon and garlic, whole and raw, help regulate blood pressure. perhaps you can sustain yourself for a short while with them? GW agress with me, fwiw.


GravatarChiDy stays up all night, has a residual drunk on, and still writes much better than I could ever hope to do.

The internet gods, they are cruel.


GravatarMoe, isn't that the road that runs along behind the houses that front on the ocean? which I loved to drive.


GravatarBut, the frenzy thing is only uniquely american when it comes to commerce.
trifecta


It wouldn't surprise me to see a similar scene in Korea, or China, people getting trampled to death in quest of some consumer good.


Gravatar"When they were saying they had to leave, that an employee got killed, people were yelling 'I've been on line since yesterday morning,'" she said. "They kept shopping."

Now why is it that I think if that guy's name had been, say, John Smith, the crowd would have been a little more concerned?
dave™© | Homepage | 11.29.08 - 7:51 am


Don't think it would have mattered, even if they had known the victim's name. They want cheap stuff, dammit!


GravatarSteveNS, have you been feeling up the Amish? For shame.
Willendorf Venus


I thought they'd be kinda marshmallowy, but those people are solid muscle!


GravatarI stopped blogging partially because I was doing it all the time and couldn't just blog a little. Some of my output ended up being quite crappy.

I understand where Lambert is coming from. I do think he has painted himself into a rhetorical box, but we all do that in life. Some of his shrillness is justified btw.

Some of the architects of previous messes will be part of the Obama administration (Robert Rubin anyone?). Sometimes though, a good pause, time-out for reflection helps refocus one though.


GravatarI's a curious process.
Molly Ivors


Br'er Rabbit speaks Milton funny.


Gravatarbut i guess i agree with the Wise who say you should go to an ER, if you're really that close to the edge. take it from me, my friend: they can't take your home away from you for unpaid med bills. been there, done that. still housed.


GravatarMy students were having trouble reading Milton, so I'm reading to them, into the computer, and posting it.

Ah, okay.

I was selfishly hoping it was a music show.


GravatarWell, one thing the attacks on NTodd have taught me: it's easy to dismiss someone in every way if what they're saying makes you uncomfortable in one way.


GravatarMoe, isn't that the road that runs along behind the houses that front on the ocean? which I loved to drive.
Ruth


No, there's no highway parallel to the ocean. The old VA Beach turnpike is now interstate 264, connecting downtown Norfolk to the beach.

I think you're thinking of Atlantic Avenue, which is a block off the beach, with the "number" streets-- 10 to 187-- deadending east, into the dunes.


GravatarI've tried cinnamon to little effect, but I do have some and will consume it if need be -- though I've found the toxic dose to be only a small multiple of the therapeutic one. Garlic I also have, but food not so much. What I really hate is how much hell worry plays with my blood sugar. Have only 1 bus fare and some pennies, so must save it to get to the bank.


GravatarAnd of course, once you've dismissed them, it's no longer necessary to consider any case they might make, no matter how valid.

(shrugs)


Gravatar“Change Has Come” [Yuval Levin]
Here in Scranton, Pennsylvania, where I’m spending my holiday and where there is always lots to be thankful for, this commercial for a Barack Obama commemorative plate has been airing constantly on television. My in-laws (life-long Democrats) and I were already laughing out loud by the time the announcer says “his confident smile and kind eyes are an inspiration to us all.” Seriously, that’s what it actually says. Operators are standing by.


Do NOT mock the Obama commemorative plate, motherfucker!

Next up is the Possum cup and saucer, which you will be FORCED to buy.


GravatarDon't think it would have mattered, even if they had known the victim's name.

It wasn't really the "name" I was referring to.


GravatarWell, one thing the attacks on NTodd have taught me: it's easy to dismiss someone in every way if what they're saying makes you uncomfortable in one way.
Molly Ivors


In his critics' defense, the man does not wear pants. Come on now.


GravatarThe Commemorative Coins are pretty icky, too.


Gravatarshoppers were acting like "savages."

acting?


GravatarI realized I was seeing more cars, just then, in my field of vision, than I would see in maybe a month in Halifax.
Moe Szyslak,
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Intimately tied to the housing/mortgage/interest rates bubble was the building boom and inflation in land values (up to 2000% in Sussex County, DE near any waterfront).


Gravatarreally, you've got a lot of nerve.

hahaha! oh god this sooo is rich... you mean the time i threatened to hit strether in the face with an electric guitar! And i'd do it again too! (oh please oh please remind me of all those great threats and insults I released!!!!!) - well you go to it - chi dye - you fake citizen journalist phoney pisspot twit. (I've got a few emails of my own I'd like to release and I bet you haven't read one of em - Chi Dye). Oh pleeeze just give me the excuse to open the vault chi -dye! That would be the least you could do. (note: chi dye was never an original member of corente)

Nevertheless.... the Correntewire NewsMaxlike headline i refer above to stands (regardles of any email threats the pisspot Chi Dye would like share)... i didn't write the hacktacular correntewire headline - "why does barack obama want my friend to keep bleeding into her shoes" - Chi Dye Dye's cuckoowire cult prophet pal did. Why don't you defend that headline your pal wrote Chi Dye? (because she can't).

if Chi Dye can't defend what Chi Dye's cuckoowire cult blog publishes publically well then that ain't my problem. She just can't do it. Because Chi Dye and her friends are BUGFUCKING HACKS!

*


GravatarThe Commemorative Coins are pretty icky, too.
plantsman


soon enuff we'll have the tree ornament.


GravatarIt wasn't really the "name" I was referring to.
dave™©
*
I understand your instincts here and hope they are wrong.


Gravatarshoppers were acting like "savages."

I caught that too. I imagine there are all sorts of racial undertones to the trampling story. As there is for anything that happens in America.


GravatarI'm still hoping for some Obama paintings on black velvet...


GravatarI understand your instincts here and hope they are wrong.

At WalMart? Doubtful.


GravatarGood morning.

plantsman tell me if I can do anything to help.


GravatarThe internet gods, they are cruel.
SteveNS |


the gods are cruel. that's why they exist. they made us to punish us, so they could be amused by our suffering.

you want 'cruel?' try feeling like i do right now, which is to say, 'why, despite so many in my life, do i feel so alone?'

that kept me up all nite. i'm surrounded by people, but no one knows me. or rather, there was one, but she's gone now.

/pity party violins playing/

anyway, plants reminds me that i'm a pathetic loser with nothing to complain about.


GravatarA CNN headline today:

'Black Friday virgin' gets first taste of holiday shopping ritual


When did the media decide it was their job to hype corporate events? I thought that advertisements were supposed to do that, not the entire news staff.


GravatarThe Commemorative Coins are pretty icky, too.
plantsman


I just don't know what I'd be expected to do with this commemorative stuff. Dedicate the bottom of a drawer someplace to Important Historical Events?


GravatarDo NOT mock the Obama commemorative plate, motherfucker!

Next up is the Possum cup and saucer, which you will be FORCED to buy.
Lime Rickey |


And somehow the family they show in the ad seems like very white Republicans who've learned their lesson! (A token black couple is thrown in briefly for effect).
Can I combine my Obama plate with that fantastic Bret Favre commerative plate and get a discount if I order in the next 30 minuites?
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GravatarWhoa, the turkey is starting to wear off. Is it still Friday?


GravatarNah, HBK; I made it through 11 months without a prescription drama or running out of food, so I guess I should be satisfied with how well things have worked out. I'm just cheesed off that I tried to avoid this and apparently failed.


GravatarOT: yesterday i found 'abandonia'; a site that archives those cool DOS games that we used to play back in the day. i was mostly interested in Adventure-type games, but there are all kinds at abandonia to download (some are not available for download cause someone got lawyered up)

www.abandonia.com


GravatarIf I had acne, I'd want the Green Tea Moisturizer.


GravatarSomehow, accusations of crazy are less convincing when presented in their original psychotic form.


GravatarSomehow, accusations of crazy are less convincing when presented in their original psychotic form.
Molly Ivors


Yes.

Less convincing, yet more annoying.


GravatarThis is starting to piss me off:

EJ Dionne:

Obama's national security choices are already causing grumbling from parts of the antiwar left, even if Obama made clear six years ago that while he was with them on Iraq, he was not one of them.

Ironically, Obama is likely to show more fidelity to George H.W. Bush's approach to foreign affairs than did the former president's own son. That's change, maybe even change we can believe in, but it's not the change so many expected.


this false narrative is taking hold. It's like a McCain zombie lie--it turns out the Obama isn't a socialist pacifist.


GravatarHere's what's happening in Canadaland:

OTTAWA– Prime Minister Stephen Harper, teetering on the brink of defeat, has won himself a one-week reprieve in the face of extraordinary opposition efforts to form a coalition government to replace his minority Conservatives.

But opposition MPs appear unbowed by Harper's bid to delay their move to defeat his six-week-old government. Negotiations on the shape, form and leadership of the coalition government are expected to continue through the weekend.

In a stunning revolt just one week into the 40th Parliament, the three opposition parties revealed yesterday that formal talks were well underway to replace the minority Conservative government.

Late in the afternoon, an angry Harper was forced to publicly announce that he will delay until Dec. 8 any parliamentary vote that could topple his government. That includes a vote on a ways and means motion flowing from the government's fiscal update Thursday and a motion of non-confidence introduced by the Liberals yesterday, which had both been scheduled for Monday.

The opposition parties unanimously oppose Harper's provocative economic update, which contained billions of dollars in spending cuts, the suspension of the right to strike by public servants, a clampdown on pay equity and a small but significant reduction of public funding for political parties.

Harper's announcement was ostensibly made to give Canadians more time to absorb the extraordinary developments that could result in an NDP-Liberal coalition government.

It buys time for Harper to get himself out of his self-made crisis – but also allows the opposition parties time to negotiate just who will lead the "alternative" government that would be proposed to Governor General Michaëlle Jean.

One Liberal strategist said an agreement had been reached to have Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion at the helm – but that could change quickly if the Liberal leader proves a liability for a new government.


Gravatarsheetx


Gravatarfarmer, you have my email addy. unlike you, i'm not interested in boring all the good people here with your insanity. i notice you don't substantively address anything i wrote about you, except to threaten me personally. i'd tell you to be a man, but that would be wasted suggestion to sheep. if you want to fight, you've got a blog and so do i. why don't we let everyone else enjoy the holiday weekend with something other than your own insanity? i'm done with you here, and i'm thinking about you even less.

did i mention i had fantastic orgasmic sex last night, and you didn't?


Gravatarthis false narrative is taking hold. It's like a McCain zombie lie--it turns out the Obama isn't a socialist pacifist.
jayackroyd
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It's not like the right nutjobs NEED a comforting, lulling assurance that the lefties are getting 'screwed'.
They NEED to continue to have their ideo-methodology thoroughly discredited.


Gravatarfarmer, you have my email addy. unlike you, i'm not interested in boring all the good people here with your insanity.

hahaha. seriously chi dye, you brought it up. you made the threats. i don't give a flyting fuck about you or your addy or anything else you do. Never have. So why don't YOOOOO mind your own bidness. If your cult leader from correntewire wants to talk to me he knows my addy.

If you'd like to defend the stoopid headlines you and y6our friends have produced at correntewire for the last 10 months then DO IT!. Otherwise, bugger off, coward.

*


Gravataragain, avoiding the subject of my critiqe and not responding to the substance. why don't you go post another insane screed about something? it's what you're good at.

done for real with you, looser. and for the record: if you think lambert tells me what to write and post, you're even more stupid than you are insane. but this is really more effort than you're worth, mr. my blog has 23 visitors a day. go fuck a pig.


Gravatar'mornin'

That is one peculiar thread to read through. Some thoughts:

1. Richard Posner supporting an auto bailout is passing interesting. He's famous, or infamous, for centering his philosophy of jurisprudence on economics rather than law. While being mostly to the right, he's no Federalist Society person, and is widely respected (not by me) as being highly intelligent and philosophical. For this man to hold that psychological, as well as economic, effects of an auto maker bankruptcy are vital to consider is extraordinary.

2. I was taught in medical school (1970s) that acid made ulcers (half-truth), operations to stop acid fixed ulcers (mostly still true) and that recurrent ulcer after surgery was due to failure to suppress acid production enough for a variety of reasons (half truth). H. pylori bacterial infection was demonstrated as causing many of them in the 1980s, and now most ulcers get found with a gastroscope, the infection with a blood test, and are treated with antibiotics. Surgery for ulcer is rare these days, usually for a perforation of an ulcer that went untreated for years.

3. The fatal Wal-Mart riot is an easy metaphor for the fatal consequences of capitalism across the board. I increasingly wonder about how the endless ring-around-the-rosy of money multiplying in search of useless stuff remains sustainable if it isn't growing, like the Ponzi scheme it so often seems to be reducible to. And yet, all those jobs, all those people interlinked together. People need income to buy organic produce so maybe the land won't be quite so poisoned, as well as to buy flat-screen TVs. I'm not much of an economist, and am philosophically and temperamentally isolated from the consumer culture. But it's very real, and a designed reorganization of the world along lines I'd find more congenial and humanistic, something I think desperately needs to be done, is a dream I find few, if any, successful examples of. It's disconcerting to hear about free-market fantasies and poke holes in them without offering the confident youthful fantasies I had of the New Socialist Man (and Woman, I'd add later) marching arm-in-arm to feed the starving, build the TVA and defeat Hitler, and end poverty and extreme wealth, Allen Menschen werden Bruder, wo dein sanfter Flugel weit, like that. But there it is.

4.plantsman: thinking of you; anything i can do to help

5. Nothing makes you stupider, in the end, than cutting off communication with those with whom you disagree, or framing the terms of a debate such that you can't listen to those who offer alternatives to your ideas. That said, I won't talk to Lubyanka, who compared me to Mengele, thinking himself clever. I won't talk to Toby, who thought Hitler was right about the Roma. I wouldn't talk to anybody who advocates the use of nuclear weapons under any circumstances whatever. These people elect to drive me away, rather than engage me; they've succeeded. I owe them nothing.


Gravatarif you think lambert tells me what to write and post,

i never said that.

you're even more stupid than you are insane. but this is really more effort than you're worth

Whatever. Now why don't you go back to minding your own fucking business. Like you should have done before you allowed your keybord jaw to-go-a-flapping in the wind. Or maybe that sounds insane to yooooo? If it makes you feel better I'm ok with you not feeling I'm worth your effort. Okie dokie then? Now run along and don't let your meat loaf. If ya know what i mean. And i think ya do. Sheesh.

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Gravatarfwiw, I visit Corrente just about every day. We are not rethugs and dissenting opinions are important, even when I don't agree with them.
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Corrente/Lambert banned any defenders of Obama as "obamabots", and drove away Xan among others, and gave haven to many racist retypers of crap that appeared in RedState. They have earned the disgust and disrespect of anyone who was paying attention.

Fuck them. They are not "dissenters", they are people who actively worked to destroy the Democratic party.


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