I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

Gravataryo


Gravataryo yo ma.


GravatarThose about to rock salute you.


GravatarI don't know any of the musical choices made for the late night video fest. I am uncool


GravatarWTF, mate...


GravatarTHIS volume knob goes to 11.


GravatarJESUS FUCK is that video annoying. It turns out that the A list bloggers really do hate us.


GravatarHis taste in comics is goofier than his taste in music.


GravatarTHIS volume knob goes to 11.
NSA

OooooOO! Can I turn the ... dial?


GravatarBon Jovi

Foo Fighters

Bitches!


Gravatar...do you think Fred Clark could make money with his Annotated Left Behind commentary?

(Yes, it's a redundancy)

He's been doing this for ...years now.


GravatarAtrios has great taste in music.


Gravatar...we have a sushi place here in town called Yomama


GravatarEmbrace the suck.
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GravatarNTodd, you so lie.

Mlle says, anytime you want to watch  the toddler, feel free...


GravatarWhat's the song being reviewed?


GravatarThanks Atrios, post a video while I'm listening to a podcast.


GravatarThere is a restaurant in the valley called Fukuya Sushi....


Gravatar"Mlle says, anytime you want to watch the toddler, feel free..."

you say that like it's a prize.


GravatarI no longer click on the Atrios music selections. They always make me seasick.


GravatarWTF, mate...

It's the end of ze world as we know it.

Emo Philips is an odd duck.


GravatarComplicit.
Slothrop | 10.13.07 - 11:43 pm | #


Dude, we're all complicit. How does not taking money from Chevron make you free of sin?


GravatarUncle Blodge, toddlers are NTodd's best audience.


GravatarPost some classic Rodney Dangerfield routines...

I broke out my "Rappin' Rodney" album today, and the monologues on there are priceless.

Stuff hasn't dated a bit, and a lot of comedy does, especially the topical stuff...


GravatarA. Whitney Brown from twenty years ago. Talking about global warming and the fucked up middle east
Plus ça change and all that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3...xqpiJbwsrg& NR=1


GravatarWhat's the song being reviewed?
terry

Prolly the "Glamourus Dingding" Live at Shakey's Pizza.


GravatarHe never plays Skynard.


GravatarIs that dude Simels?


Gravatar...more end of the world (this time by Japanese asteroid!


GravatarI don't know any of the almost invariably horrible musical choices that deaf m.f. Atrios made for the late night video fest. I am cool
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher | 10.13.07 - 11:47 pm | #


Fixed your typos.


GravatarI gotta get some more real work done. Later, gang...


Gravatar"toddlers are NTodd's best audience."

toddlers often vomit on me.


GravatarWhat's the song being reviewed?

Roy Orbison's Crying as covered by Rebekah del Rio. Did you not click the link?


GravatarStuff hasn't dated a bit, and a lot of comedy does, especially the topical stuff...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin


Have you been watching Letterman? He's got a guy in a Mark Twain costume doing classic Dangerfield.

My wife tells me she's pregnant. I say if it looks like you it'll be a blessing. She says if it looks like you it'll be a miracle


GravatarMy wife put her foot down - she'll have sex with me once a week.

*pulls tie*

You think that's bad, I know three guys she's cut off completely.


GravatarThere is a restaurant in the valley called Fukuya Sushi....-ellroon

that's a load of carp ...


GravatarMy wife put her foot down - she'll have sex with me once a week.

Does Vicki know?


GravatarBush cackles and Rudy cackles so why does the media only apply the word cackles to the woman running for President?


Gravatar...more end of the world (this time by Japanese asteroid!

Asteroid attack!


GravatarDoes Vicki know?
NTodd, Cupcake


Dangerfield routine, dood.


Gravatarthat's a load of carp ...
focus |

Don't be koi, tell us what you think.


GravatarNSA, look, I made you brownies, even with a broken ankle.  Now go eat and leave us alone


GravatarFixed your typos.
rootless2.4 | 10.13.07 - 11:53 pm | #

thank you. your kindness is more than i deserve.


GravatarDusty Baker to Cincy!


GravatarWes Clark:
So the root of the problem is not how many troops are in Iraq, please believe me, don’t be mad if you are a Democrat at your Democratic congressmen because they can’t reduce the troops and frustrate the president. That’s not the issue. And if you are Republican don’t be mad at the Democrats because they are fussing with the troops. Whether you are Democrat or Republican, if you are an American you ought to be concerned about the strategy of the United States in this region, what is our aim, what is our purpose, why are we there, why are Americans dying in this region?

That is the issue, for lack of an effective strategy we are going to lose in this regional battle. David Patreaus, he worked for me, he was a fine young officer, he hasn’t worked for me as a senior officer, I assume he is very competent, no body makes four stars in the United States Armed Forces, no matter what ____ unless they are pretty good. But and David Patreaus is good, darn good, but listen, he doesn’t hold the cards – the cards for America’s success in the region are held by the White House. They have to do with strategy, whether you talk to or isolate Iran, whether you punish or reform Syria, whether you aid or condemn Lebanon, how you motivate Egypt, how you deal with Saudi Arabia, those are key elements in a strategy and there has to be a purpose for it and none of that has been laid out in any coherent way. No, its all about politics, it’s what Karl Rove said in January 2002, in Las Vegas, Nevada, he said, “We going to run this President as a War President.” And you know what? They are succeeding. The Democratic challenge to Iraq was – in my view misplaced. We should not have challenged on troop strength or tactics. Its not about troops and tactics, it’s about strategy and policy. And we failed on challenging the strategy and policy. And Bush won on troops because he knows he has got the Democrats up against the wall. It’s all about politics. If you try to take down the troops, he says you are not – you are not supporting the American troops. If you – if you try to challenge what he is doing, he says you don’t want to win. And now the rhetoric is heating up against Iran.

http:// www.democraticunderground...mesg_id=3605267

The D's political stategists had better study Clark if they want to prevail for the next few cycles at least.
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GravatarJim, Collieresque | 10.13.07 - 11:55 pm | #

Haven't watched a whole show in a dog's age, though will occasionally surf and watch a few minutes once in a while...


GravatarHow do you mow the infield grass to look like a pair of socks?


GravatarBush cackles

President Doctor Hibbert


GravatarClark cont.

o where is this going to go? Likely to a strike against Iran – it could be strike against nuclear, could be build as a strike against Iran because there are aiding and abetting the insurgents who were fighting and killing Americans. And how many Democratic congressmen do you think will be able to take a strong and principle stand against this? Well the answer is; any Democrats who want to stand up and say, “No, I believe Iran has a perfect right to kill and attack American soldiers.” Or any Congressmen who wants to say, “No, I have – I favor Iran getting a nuclear weapon.” So, do you see he is kind of – he owns the playing field, the President does. Its not about strategy, it’s about politics. It’s about election politics. I am sorry to say, I am so disappointed, we can't seem to control the dialogue. And I am out here tonight begging you to help us get this dialogue reoriented in the right direction before it’s too late and we are engaged in another and deeper war with more costs, another unnecessary war in this region.
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Gravatar"With parts made in Japan, I am the modren man!"


GravatarSo you want comedy, eh?


GravatarHow do you mow the infield grass to look like a pair of socks?
MP

I can make my lawn look like shit.


GravatarSNL mocking Al Gore now.


GravatarYou think that's bad, I know three guys she's cut off completely.

I found out my wife was having an affair ... I told her that "I would never play second fiddle"

*pulls tie*

she says "second fiddle, you're lucky that you're still in the band at all"


GravatarHow do you mow the infield grass to look like a pair of socks? - MP

No Flirting!


GravatarThe Democratic challenge to Iraq was – in my view misplaced. We should not have challenged on troop strength or tactics. Its not about troops and tactics, it’s about strategy and policy. And we failed on challenging the strategy and policy.

Absofuckinglutely, though to demand a withdrawal with or without timeline is not just tactical.


GravatarRoy Orbison's Crying as covered by Rebekah del Rio. Did you not click the link?
I can't afford the flashplayer.


GravatarI can make my lawn look like shit.
lipreader


No shit. With the, well, essentially a drought we have here on the East Coast, I'm waiting for the tumbleweeds to roll by.

Followed by Jack Palance.


GravatarQuentin

Just post a link, goddamn it.


GravatarSNL mocking Al Gore now.
The Kenosha Kid | Homepage | 10.13.07 - 11:59 pm |

How refreshing! Hearing the industrial side of the story on a channel owned by General Electric!


GravatarI found out my wife was having an affair ... I told her that "I would never play second fiddle"

*takes off sunglasses*

she says "second fiddle, you're lucky that you're still in the band at all"

*puts sunglasses back on*

/David Caruso telling Rodney Dangerfield joke


GravatarHow do you mow the infield grass to look like a pair of socks?

Very skilled illegal immigrants.


Gravatar/David Caruso? Is he that CSI guy with the twisted neck?


GravatarPredictably, the conservative chattering class and its amen corner in the right-wing blogosphere are apoplectic about the Nobel Peace Prize awarded to Al Gore. But their rage and angst about the Nobel Committee's "politicized awards" for "mass exaggerators" and "deceptive rhetoric" isn't merely a function of the inconvenient truth of the success of Gore's global warming campaign. No, the rugged individualists of the right are just hopping mad that they never win prizes designed to recognize contributions to, well, the rest of humanity.

To remedy this perpetual slight, here are:
"Conservative Nobel Prizes We'd Like to See."


GravatarWoody Allen interviews...


GravatarI can't afford the flashplayer.

It was a joke.


GravatarAl Gore's Trophy Room!!


GravatarBetancourt serves up heat.


GravatarMow it low.


Gravatar"...died of apoplexy."

It was big killer about 100 years ago.


GravatarNight, all

Keep 'em flyin'


GravatarIt is true that Nobel prizes can be a lot of shit, say in the case if the Chicago school or Gorby's Baltic-stomping prize.


Gravatar"How do you mow the infield grass to look like a pair of socks?
MP"

http://www.greenmediaonline.com/...res/ 0504_tm.asp


GravatarSNL mocking Al Gore now.

Now THAT'S cutting edge!

Good thing they got rid of the Muppets...


GravatarJust post a link, goddamn it.

Breath deep.
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GravatarBreath deep.

The gathering gloom.


Gravatar"Breath deep" ...?!

"Knights in White Satin" by the Moody Blues


GravatarBetancourt is shutting down the Sox.


GravatarYou guys mean "breathe deep"?


Gravatar...coke me!


GravatarThe Moody Blues were neither blues nor particularly emotional. Discuss.


Gravatarso i'm watching the bb game and ramirez blasts that one out, right?

they cut to a luxury box with the owners i suppose and there celebrating is doris kearns goodwin. anyone else see that?

wtf


GravatarThe gathering gloom.
NTodd, Cupcake


Watchlights fade from every room.


GravatarHas anyone read Remembrance of Things Past by Senor Proust?


Gravatargot rice? | 10.14.07 - 12:09 am | #

I dig prog rock, but I never really got into The Moody Blues for some reason...


GravatarCoco Crisp on deck.


GravatarJoe Buck says it's gone from chilly to cold.


GravatarHas anyone read Remembrance of Things Past by Senor Proust?
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin | 10.14.07 - 12:10 am |

In the previous thread "oi, rats" demonstrated that nobody can possibly read it.


GravatarSNL mocking Al Gore now.

Now THAT'S cutting edge!

Good thing they got rid of the Muppets...
dave™© | Homepage | 10.14.07 - 12:05 am | #

SNL is SO OUT THERE!!!

Next they'll be doing Clinton jokes!


GravatarThey had a shot of James Taylor with his trophy wife and two young children.


GravatarJoe Buck says it's gone from chilly to cold.
terry | 10.14.07 - 12:11 am | #

He obviously never read Remembrance of Things Past....


GravatarCatching up because I was distracted....

K&Y can suck my enormous cock.


GravatarI never learned to read.


GravatarJames Taylor hasn't written a decent song for nearly 30 years.


GravatarSophomore year of college: every time I would smoke hash I would listen to "Days of Future Passed" in the hope that one day I would be able to get stoned just by listening to the album. I don't know if it worked or not, I can't stand that album anymore.


Gravatargot rice? | 10.14.07 - 12:11 am | #

One of these days I'll have to try...


GravatarMr. French, you wouldn't want that...you don't know where K&Y's mouth has been.


GravatarHas anyone read Remembrance of Things Past by Senor Proust?
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin


The first three volumes.


GravatarRush should do some "Chelsea's a dog" jokes.


GravatarThe first three volumes.
Jim, Collieresque | 10.14.07 - 12:12 am | #

I saw a film of the final novel, Time Regained, but I'd really like to tackle the whole series...


GravatarHas anyone read Remembrance of Things Past by Senor Proust?

That would be Monsieur Proust.

I tried several times, but got bored and gave up.


GravatarThey had a shot of James Taylor with his trophy wife and two young children.
terry


I know I do the "I'm so old" schtick a lot, but I actually remember when James Taylor had a full head of hippie hair and seemed to make the women folk moist.


GravatarHas anyone read Remembrance of Things Past by Senor Proust?

No.  What have you read in mathematics?


Gravatar"Breath deep" ...?!

Guess that explains why he prefers to speak cut-and-paste.


Gravatar Has anyone read Remembrance of Things Past by Senor Proust?

I don't recall.


GravatarHas anyone read Remembrance of Things Past by Senor Proust?
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin


I did but its been so long ago I forgot what its about.


GravatarRemembraNCE OF THINGS pAST IS ABOUT a guy who bites into a peach.


Gravatar...remember in Paper Moon how the shyster dad ended up beat up and left in a pile in a basement stairway?

I'm thinking: Rush Limbaugh should end up that way.


GravatarToonscribe | 10.14.07 - 12:13 am | #

I couldn't remember how to spell "Monsieur", so I took a neighborhing state...


GravatarSatire usually works best when it's based on some underlying truth. Not some MCM* made up shit thrown at someone.

They were apparently playing on Gore somehow being "smug," which was part of the schtick used to knock him when winning the Nobel Peace Prize.

So this skit pissed me off--and the audience didn't seem to know how to take it either. It was just off. Finally the audience understood the premise, still not sure it worked, but tried to laugh at some of the stuff.

But, fuck all, having Gore brag about a framed vacciniation certificate????

Piss poor skit.

*MCM--Mainstream Corporate Media


GravatarCoke to TKK. Damn.


GravatarI don't recall.
The Kenosha Kid | Homepage | 10.14.07 - 12:13 am | #

I did but its been so long ago I forgot what its about.
Gomez, Lampshade Driver | 10.14.07 - 12:13 am | #

Classic responses....


GravatarI saw a film of the final novel, Time Regained, but I'd really like to tackle the whole series...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin


I saw the film adaptation with Jeremy Irons, which most people hate but I liked.


GravatarMr. French, you wouldn't want that...you don't know where K&Y's mouth has been.

True dat, and besides, I don't want to choke anyone.


GravatarHas anyone read Remembrance of Things Past by Senor Proust?

Yes. I read it over the course of one year, many years ago.


GravatarWhenever I think of "Saturday Night Live," I think of the brilliant parody of "MAD" the National Lampoon did, back around the time, coincidentally enough, many of the original SNL cast were involved with National Lampoon.


Gravatarpeachy rimes with nietzsche.


GravatarAfter the Moody Blues released "Go Now" it was all downhill.


GravatarPiss poor skit.

jawbone | 10.14.07 - 12:14 am | #

The usual SNL fare...


GravatarYeah Al Gore needed to be parodied.

Good call.


GravatarRemembraNCE OF THINGS pAST IS ABOUT a guy who bites into a peach.
terry
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I'd never dare to


Gravatar So this skit pissed me off--and the audience didn't seem to know how to take it either.

The only real laugh they got was the bit about the election being stolen.


GravatarI'm thinking: Rush Limbaugh should end up that way.

Bleeding out in a otherwise empty elevator. Just to prove he has blood.


GravatarI mean Bush hasn't done anything parody worthy.


GravatarEbenezer Le Page | 10.14.07 - 12:15 am | #

I really want to tackle it, but it will probably take me a year to read the whole set.

I still have tons of other stuff to go through, like Mishima's The Sea of Fertility...


GravatarWell, they did give him the best opening skit in history before. Let's not forget that.


GravatarYes. I read it over the course of one year, many years ago.

I remember an especially tasty pecan sandy.


GravatarThe Blues Magoos with Jack Benny
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N...h? v=NfmS1bCA5ZY
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GravatarJames Taylor hasn't written a decent song for nearly 30 years.
terry | 10.14.07 - 12:12 am | #

don;t think that's entirely true, but probably close.


GravatarLast pitch, 96 mph. Good Grief, how can you get away from something like that, let alone hit it?


Gravatar1980's Rock Goddess.


GravatarRemembraNCE OF THINGS pAST IS ABOUT a guy who bites into a peach. - terry

Allman, Brothers and Hal L. Lujah?


GravatarJames Taylor hasn't written a decent song for nearly 30 years.
terry | 10.14.07 - 12:12 am

What he needs to do is go Shatner: ironic self-deprecation as whole career. Everyone wants to hear Taylor's version of Metallica's "One," Van Halen's "Running with the Devil," or Wendy O. Williams's "The Damned."


GravatarJust think...the Gore sketch was the first sketch, and they always put the best sketch first. If the first sketch sucked, the rest of the show will be even worse...

Turn it off...you'll thank me and yourself later...


GravatarI'm still bogged down in The Baroque Cycle It feels like that will take me forever to get through, and it's not even "literature".


Gravatarhow can you get away from something like that, let alone hit it?


Well, it's someplace in front of you.


Gravatarpeachy rimes with nietzsche.

It rhymes with Peach-uh.


GravatarI mean Bush hasn't done anything parody worthy.

Howzabout a skit where Gore marches into the Oval Office, hits drunken, disheveled George W. Bush over the head with his Emmy, his Oscar, and his Nobel, then kicks his sorry ass out in the street?

Now how much would you pay me? $50,000 a year? But wait - there's more!


GravatarA show like SNL is going to have its up's and down's--this was a downer. And, yes, the best laugh was about the stolen election.

They do some good satire, commentary--this was just in their mean vein, which pops up every so often.


GravatarMeanwhile Torchwood is on BBC America.


GravatarI really want to tackle it, but it will probably take me a year to read the whole set.

If you decide to give yourself a year to read all the volumes and if you enjoy reading more than one book at a time, Remembrance of Things Past can become a thread through your year. At least, that is the way it worked for me. Reading other things simultaneously took the weight off the prose and the many volumes sitting there to be read.

I very much enjoyed it.


GravatarA moment, please. for my friend, JLK, 1950 -2007. A finer man, a better friend, could never be found. Honor him, with me, please.

Thanks.

SD


GravatarNeither one of these teams can beat Colorado.


GravatarOpening sketch had Bon Jovi in it and was kind of cute. This was later --and too drawn out, along with poor premise.


GravatarLast pitch, 96 mph. Good Grief, how can you get away from something like that, let alone hit it?

Don't get away from it. Lean into it.


GravatarEbenezer Le Page | 10.14.07 - 12:20 am | #

Good advice. Like watching Airplane after sitting through Scenes from a Marriage...


GravatarWait, Weekend Udate just had a Supreme Court overturned the Nobel Committee joke.

I didn't hear that a million times already.


GravatarNeither one of these teams can beat Colorado.
terry


The Rockies have been cartoonishly perfect this past month, when it counts.


GravatarI think Lorne Michaels has gone wingnutty, and for every sketch about Bush they have to do five Clinton bj jokes or one Gore is Boring sketch.


GravatarI'm still bogged down in The Baroque Cycle It feels like that will take me forever to get through, and it's not even "literature".
blerb


I was at a party tonight and we were discussing this. I've only gotten through Quicksilver so far, but I thoroughly enjoyed it.


GravatarSarah Deere.... time to sing "The Vacant Chair" again (too soon).


GravatarThe Kenosha Kid | Homepage | 10.14.07 - 12:22 am | #

Lorne Michaels should have retired years ago...


GravatarI mean Bush hasn't done anything parody worthy.
There is absolutely no comedy to be found in choking on a pretzel. None. Zilch. Nada.


GravatarA moment, please. for my friend, JLK, 1950 -2007. A finer man, a better friend, could never be found. Honor him, with me, please.


GravatarThese major league pitchers throw hard.


GravatarSarah Deere | Homepage | 10.14.07 - 12:20 am | #

Sure, Sarah...


Gravatar"The Vacant Chair" again (too soon).
Darryl Pearce

what is this? Forgive ignorance, please, DP.

SD


GravatarEmo!


GravatarThere is absolutely no comedy to be found in choking on a pretzel. None. Zilch. Nada.
George Johnston


To be fair SNL did a pretty good skit on that, with Cheney in a wifebeater shirt supposedly abusing Bush.


GravatarLorne Michaels should have retired years ago...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin | 10.14.07 - 12:22 am |

Lots of people should've retired years ago. Lorne Michaels should've completely separated himself from SNL upon news of Belushi's passing.


Gravatarthanks, mr French, Janeane.


Gravatar Like watching Airplane after sitting through Scenes from a Marriage.

Yes, that's the idea.


GravatarSometimes haloscan really fucking pisses me off..

Done deal Sarah.


GravatarSarah, I'm so sorry for your loss.


GravatarPeople who should have retired years ago:

Lorne Michaels
Paul McCartney
NTodd


GravatarNow that was comedy!! Thnx.


GravatarThe Vacant Chair is a requiem song from the 1860's American Civil War... I find the sentiment ... well, at least as a recognition.


GravatarLorne Michaels should've completely separated himself from SNL upon news of Belushi's passing.
gobu gobu


He pretty much did, and Dick Ebersol took over. Those were the worst years of SNL. Lorne came back to save the show.


Gravatarsorry to be such a fucking downer. 2007 has not been an easy year for me and mine. I do so appreciate your support and kindness, though. Please know tyhat.


GravatarGood podcast, NTodd.


GravatarYou goota hand it to Cleveland. They got embarassed last night, and came right back.


GravatarYou could probably cull a pretty decent two hours of comedy from any one entire season of SNL over the past 20-25 years.

Why is this thing still on?


Gravatarsorry to be such a fucking downer.

...no need to apologize. Hugs all around.


GravatarHonor him, with me, please. - SD

ALS has taken a lot of good people.


GravatarJon Stewart did a fantastic job with Howard Kurtz. He left Kurtz looking like a tremendously Mormon child molester while leaving himself look controlled, classy yet serious.


GravatarThere is also no comedy value this past week in the Bush junta giving advice to Iran and Turkey about respecting Iraq'a borders.


GravatarSolveig's Song is also another that I like.


GravatarEmo invented Emo


GravatarEvening all.

Been gone for a while...

Is Cheney still president?


GravatarThose were the worst years of SNL.

Actually, those were the years of Eddie Murphy, Joe Piscopo, Billy Crystal, Harry Shearer, and Christopher Guest.

And Ebersol replaced Jean Doumanian. Michaels had gone off to produce the incredibly abysmal "New Show."


GravatarYou could probably cull a pretty decent two hours of comedy from any one entire season of SNL
Only if you include the 40 minutes for commercials.


GravatarThen again, Global Warming has always been a rib tickler.


GravatarWhy is this thing still on?
dave™© | Homepage | 10.14.07 - 12:26 am | #

It's like a brand name, SNL. People watch it because they can remember when it was really good (and it used to be really good), and perhaps, they feel some loyalty to it.


GravatarHow were the Poo Fighters ?


GravatarPeople watch it because they can remember when it was really good (and it used to be really good), and perhaps, they feel some loyalty to it.

I watched the opening episode.

I gave up on it years ago...


GravatarActually, those were the years of Eddie Murphy, Joe Piscopo, Billy Crystal, Harry Shearer, and Christopher Guest.

dave™© | Homepage | 10.14.07 - 12:29 am | #

That cast was the best one after the original cast. Martin Short was on that year, too.


GravatarI'm still bogged down in The Baroque Cycle It feels like that will take me forever to get through, and it's not even "literature".
blerb
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Boring. Got it at an airport bookstore and left it on the plane.


GravatarMichaels had gone off to produce the incredibly abysmal "New Show."

You mean you didn't ROTFL at "The Frightened Family"?

Scarred for life, I am.


GravatarThen again, Global Warming has always been a rib tickler.
Gomez, Lampshade Driver

Not to mention the Earth tones.


GravatarJon Stewart did a fantastic job with Howard Kurtz. He left Kurtz looking like a tremendously Mormon child molester while leaving himself look controlled, classy yet serious. - ten thousand

What Stewart did to Tweety would have killed a normal human being. Tweets: too dumb to die of embarrassment.


GravatarThe best part of SNL is generally the part that isn't SNL. They've had some awesome short films in the past, and presently the TV Funhouse is head and shoulders above the sketches.


GravatarIt's like a brand name, SNL.

Just like Carson's show. It's achieved iconic status. Hell, Carson himself wasn't even into it the final 5 years.


GravatarYou mean you didn't ROTFL at "The Frightened Family"?

The Simpsons nailed the whole SNL thing when Krusty hosted.

"We've got 15 more minutes of this and it's the best thing on the show! The last half hour is garbage!"


Gravatar CHENEY DOOMSDAY


GravatarStewart is the best talk show host out there...

I really like his interviews more than the "news" stuff he does. He's really intelligent, insightful, and can be really subtle at times when he needles someone.


GravatarWe've got 15 more minutes of this and it's the best thing on the show! The last half hour is garbage!"
dave™© | Homepage | 10.14.07 - 12:32 am | #

And that episode is years old, and it's still true today....


GravatarJaneane The Acerbic Goblin | 10.14.07 - 12:32 am | #

Wait until Bobcat Golthwait gets his own talk show.


GravatarThere seem to be about 7 or 8 people in the Foo Fighters these days.


GravatarJoe Piscopo was never funny, not for a single minute.


Gravatarsorry to be such a fucking downer. 2007 has not been an easy year for me and mine. - Sarah Deere

ah, but still you're here and we're still here (for you) and soon beautiful leaves will fall and it will be a beautiful fall ... all of the seasons always take us all ... peace


GravatarJoe Piscopo was never funny, not for a single minute.
Mr french | 10.14.07 - 12:34 am | #

His lust for his 18 year old babysitter was.


GravatarJoe Piscopo was never funny, not for a single minute.
Mr french


Any humor he caused was at his own expense.


GravatarActually, those were the years of Eddie Murphy, Joe Piscopo, Billy Crystal, Harry Shearer, and Christopher Guest.

All you need to know about Ebersol:

In his first week, Ebersol fired Gottfried, Risley, and Rocket, replacing them with Robin Duke, Tim Kazurinsky, and Tony Rosato. He would eventually eliminate the rest of the 1980 cast (except for Murphy and Piscopo) at the end of the season.

Murphy and Piscopo were hired by Doumanian.


GravatarWhen SNL first came on, I was perpetually pissed that my parents would always stay up to watch it.

They had a pretty good sense of offbeat comedy. My father loved National Lampoon. And they had become BIG fans of the Muppets (then known as "Sam and Friends") when they lived in DC in the mid-late 50s.

So while everyone else was getting stoned, I was watching it with my parents...


GravatarJoe Piscopo was never funny, not for a single minute.
Mr french | 10.14.07 - 12:34 am |

Au contraire. Howard Stern has a recording he plays every so often, an emo anthem written, orchestrated and sung (well, screamed) by Piscopo, to a "Kimberly." Kimberly in real life was an underage girl Piscopo wanted to spend much of the rest of his life with or something. The song mentions evil forces that want to keep them apart, meaning Kimberly's parents.


GravatarPapelbon looks bigger than 6'4" and 230.


GravatarI'll never forgive whoever it was who inflicted Adam Sandler on the world.


GravatarAll you need to know about Ebersol...

I'm not going to defend Ebersol, but while Doumanian originally hired Piscopo and Murphy, she also hired Charlie Rocket.

And Ebersol hired the others I mentioned.

The Ebersol version sucked a little less than Jean's.


GravatarWhen SNL first came on, I was perpetually pissed that my parents would always stay up to watch it.

Same here. I remember having to suppress a hopping leaf buzz watching that show with my parents during the Aykroyd/Belushi era.


GravatarAu contraire. Howard Stern has a recording


I rest my case.


GravatarAu contraire. Howard Stern has a recording he plays every so often, an emo anthem written, orchestrated and sung (well, screamed) by Piscopo, to a "Kimberly." Kimberly in real life was an underage girl Piscopo wanted to spend much of the rest of his life with or something. The song mentions evil forces that want to keep them apart, meaning Kimberly's parents.
ten thousand | 10.14.07 - 12:37 am | #

Yep. Kind of a Springsteen ripoff. Man, they got a lot of air time on that one.


GravatarJoe Piscopo was never funny, not for a single minute.

He did a great Sinatra.

Unfortunately, he's now developed it into a "one man show"...


GravatarKimberly in real life was an underage girl Piscopo wanted to spend much of the rest of his life with or something.

Kimberly is the name of his estranged wife. Three kids, cross-functional charges of abuse. The usual.


GravatarThe National Lampoon Radio Hour was enjoyable.


GravatarAccording to that Wikipedia article, that was the fifth Foo Fighters appearance and the ninth (!) appearance by Dave Grohl in one or another band.


GravatarThe Ebersol version sucked a little less than Jean's.
dave™© | Homepage | 10.14.07 - 12:38 am

So basically this argument is about who is somewhat less sucky among the deeply sucky?


GravatarJoe Piscopo was never funny, not for a single minute.

He is no Joe Pesci.


Gravatar"Johnny Dangerously"

Sucked the suck clean out of the suckyness.


GravatarI remember there was a Chris Guest/Billy Crystal running gag where they would be two heavily accented NY city cops talking about how shoving objects into their ear canals hurt like shit.


GravatarAccording to that Wikipedia article, that was the fifth Foo Fighters appearance and the ninth (!) appearance by Dave Grohl in one or another band.
The Kenosha Kid | Homepage | 10.14.07 - 12:40 am | #

And name all of the bands. Let's get the big 2 out of the way:

Foo
Nirvana


GravatarThere's an ad in the outfield for CVS Pharmacy.


GravatarThe Ebersol version sucked a little less than Jean's.
dave™© | Homepage | 10.14.07 - 12:38 am

So basically this argument is about who is somewhat less sucky among the deeply sucky?
ten thousand | 10.14.07 - 12:41 am | #

Sounds like it. I think we can all agree that SNL has been treading water for a very long time...


GravatarBilly Crystal did a few impressions perfectly, and is worthless for the rest of it.


GravatarI remember there was a Chris Guest/Billy Crystal running gag where they would be two heavily accented NY city cops talking about how shoving objects into their ear canals hurt like shit.

The other night I shoved one of them...

Meat thermometers?

YEAH! A meat thermometer into my ear and smacked it with a ballpeen hammer. Boy did that smart!


GravatarSo basically this argument is about who is somewhat less sucky among the deeply sucky?

Yeah... I don't think I'd call it an "argument," though.


GravatarSounds like it. I think we can all agree that SNL has been treading water for a very long time...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin | 10.14.07 - 12:44 am |

But treading water means that you're at least doing something with a result. SNL looks more like a gods-damned payola or privilege sort of thing, divorced from merit.


GravatarThey just showed Curt Schilling praying.


Gravatar And name all of the bands.

There's some surprises:
He was the drummer for Nirvana in their two performances, was a drummer for Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers on one performance, was a drummer for Tenacious D on one performance, and performed with his most recent band, Foo Fighters, five times.

PS I always hated the Billy Crystal years of SNL.


GravatarYoukilis has a fidgety batting stance.


GravatarWhat made me a fan of SNL was giving exposure to the greatest music of the time. I saw Talking Heads perform "Take Me To The River" and my life practically changed. Now they're just putting on popular corporate musical acts, it's not about the music anymore. No risks in any of it.


GravatarThe Ebersol version sucked a little less than Jean's.
dave™©


Ebersol realized that the unbelievably popular existing formula needed drastic changes.


GravatarSounds like it. I think we can all agree that SNL has been treading water for a very long time...

It's been awful for a long, long time. The latest offerings have been the worst.


GravatarSNL looks more like a gods-damned payola or privilege sort of thing, divorced from merit. - ten thousand

Hmmmmm, why does this remind me of George Bush?


Gravatarin particular and Republicans in general.


Gravatarten thousand | 10.14.07 - 12:45 am | #

Good point...


GravatarRiveted for 4 hours. Only college football can be better.


GravatarSNL was out of original material by the end of year 2


GravatarMr french | 10.14.07 - 12:46 am | #

Do the people at SNL honestly think what they're doing is funny?

I read that "Live from New York" book, and no one seemed to enjoy the experience...


GravatarTV that doesn't suck:
DEXTER
Lucy, the Daughter of the Devil
About a little over half of Family Guy
About a third of South Park (the last one on Chris Hanson rocked)
Some of Sarah Silverman (the abortion clinic bombing one was perfect, the rest sucked)
Boondocks
Shin-Chan
AstroBoy


GravatarThat was an epic at-bat.


GravatarIt's been awful for a long, long time. The latest offerings have been the worst.
Mr french


No, the Tim Kazurinsky years were the worst. Although the season with Robert Downey Jr. and Anthony Michael Hall was pretty damned bad.


GravatarSNL was out of original material by the end of year 2

But...but..what about "Land Shark"?


GravatarAstroboy sucks.


GravatarBetancourt has saved Cleveland's ass. Shutdown pitching on the road. Very impressive.


GravatarTV that doesn't suck:

I think House jumped the shark this week with House electrocuting himself. I used to enjoy the show.


GravatarLTDotD is the best narrative comedy out there right now. And it features the voice of a certain Sam Seder.


GravatarIIRC, the knock on Ebersol at the time was he was NBC's corporate stooge who got brought in to bring discipline to the previously-untamed SNL wildmen (and women) and "form" to the show in general.

Which was mostly true. But Michaels was doing the same thing with "The New Show," and continued on the same path when he came back to "save" SNL.


Gravatarthe Tim Kazurinsky years were the worst

And when someone finishes fucking up for you that Emission Accomplice.

When you pretend something is done that's a Fake Accompli.

etc.


GravatarTV that doesn't suck:

The Wire

What is LTDotD?


GravatarBut...but..what about "Land Shark"?

Season 1.


Gravatarten thousand | 10.14.07 - 12:51 am | #

What is LTDotD?

I know who Sam is...


GravatarBut...but..what about "Land Shark"?

CANDYGRAM!


GravatarDo the people at SNL honestly think what they're doing is funny?

I believe they go through the motions and hope it sticks to something, though it usually doesn't, and if that's the case they don't care.


GravatarWhat is LTDotD?
Ebenezer Le Page | 10.14.07 - 12:53 am | #

Lord of the Dings


Gravatarthe Tim Kazurinsky years were the worst

Just fucking yelling at you to flip the channel.


GravatarWhat is LTDotD?
Ebenezer Le Page | 10.14.07 - 12:53 am |

LUCY
THE DAUGHTER OF THE DEVIL

12:15 Sundays
cartoon network adult swim


GravatarMr french | 10.14.07 - 12:54 am | #

The show has so many writers, you'd figure something would turn up...


Gravatarfocus...thanks. (Extends hand.....)


GravatarMr french | 10.14.07 - 12:54 am | #

I should have said you'd figure with all those writers, there should be funnier stuff. But, alas, no...


GravatarI read that "Live from New York" book, and no one seemed to enjoy the experience...

Writing "comedy" is probably the most pressure-filled job you can take.


Gravatarten thousand | 10.14.07 - 12:55 am | #

Thanks. I figured Seder was doing something else than his one day stint at AAR...


GravatarWhat is LTDotD?

Let's Try Driving Over The Dam.?
Leave The Damn Oven Turned Down.
Larry The Dentist Owes Trudy Dinner?


GravatarJaneane, Amy Pohler makes me want to smack someone, preferably her.


GravatarListen: a parody of Willy Wonka, in a dildo factory, with Satan singing about vbrators, but while awkwardly trying to deny his daughter's sexuality.


Gravatardave™© | Homepage | 10.14.07 - 12:56 am | #

Being on a stage trying to be funny is even more taxing...


GravatarThe preparation for the shows during the first few years of SNL never seemed "finished", and that was part of the appeal.

With some of the subsequent casts, it grew weary.

When the Hartman, Carvey, Hooks, and let's face it, Miller, crew took over, the comedy got a *lot* better.


GravatarLUCY
THE DAUGHTER OF THE DEVIL


I've watched it.

Mildly amusing, but they've been doing that kind of comedy for years with ATHF.


GravatarLUCY
THE DAUGHTER OF THE DEVIL
12:15 Sundays
cartoon network adult swim

Thanks. I googled it. Wikipedia says:

Senator Robert Whitehead (Sam Seder): A U.S. Senator with Satanic ties. The Devil and Becky have made plans for his ascension to President, with Lucy at his side.


GravatarMr french | 10.14.07 - 12:58 am | #

If I see her floating around NYC, I'll hit it for ya...


GravatarH. Jon Benjamin is so damned awesome as a voice (he's Satan). Coach McGuirk from Home Movies is the world's best character.


GravatarBecky is the Devil's Advocate.


GravatarBeing on a stage trying to be funny is even more taxing...

Well, yeah. But there's still writing involved.


Gravatarpuppethead | 10.14.07 - 12:59 am | #

Benjamin did that awful Freak Show with David Cross, right?

Some good political points, but nothing that hasn't been said before. The animation was terrible, too. I don't know if it was an intentional shitty look, though.


GravatarIf I see her floating around NYC, I'll hit it for ya...

Gracias.

Annoying is not close to funny.


GravatarMildly amusing, but they've been doing that kind of comedy for years with ATHF.
Toonscribe | 10.14.07 - 12:58 am |

No, this is much better written. ATHF is pure immmaturity prevented from effectiveness with chaos. Here, the tighter concept helps.


GravatarThe second wave of the next SNL generation included David Spade, Mike Meyers, Adam Sandler, and Chris Farley.

All multi-millionaires. Those stil alive, anyway.


GravatarMr french | 10.14.07 - 1:00 am | #

She's OK, but nothing incredible....


GravatarBTW, have I mentioned this many times since yesterday?

http://www.tv-links.co.uk/listings/9


Gravatarpoppui and manny and lowell the butcher


GravatarThe Hartman period would be remembered very fondly if Michaels had cut the show to an hour around then.


GravatarEddie Murphy Brown


GravatarHas David Spade ever said or done anything that does not make people want to punch his face?


GravatarI've probably mentioned this before, but there's an excellent book about Python, and Idle and Palin talk about their experiences hosting SNL vs. their experiences with Python.

Python wins, for those keeping score...


Gravatarten thousand | 10.14.07 - 1:06 am | #

A smug little toadie...


GravatarPython wins, for those keeping score...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin | 10.14.07 - 1:06 am | #

Python/SNL did the fantastic "The Rutles"


GravatarProfessional baseball players spit all of the time. Is it a contractual obligation?


GravatarJust noticed that Apple gave Gore a big attaboy on their main page. Strangely, I never realized he used a real crystal ball in his work.


GravatarWhen did I become a young lion of Sheba and Dedan?

Was there an initiation ceremony?


GravatarJust noticed that Apple gave Gore a big attaboy on their main page. Strangely, I never realized he used a real crystal ball in his work.
EkCenTriK


He gave them nice ad by using Macs to develop his presentations.

Not that I blame him, for that kind of work, I would too.


GravatarHas David Spade ever said or done anything that does not make people want to punch his face?


There was the time he talked about riding dead people down a hill, does that count?


GravatarBarry,

From the Pirate pic the other day, I take it Zoey is doing better?


Gravatar
When the Hartman, Carvey, Hooks, and let's face it, Miller, crew took over, the comedy got a *lot* better.
MP


Hah... nothing ever will beat Bass-O-Matic or Candygram Shark.


Nor Cheezeburger, cheezeburger, no Pepsi.


GravatarNor Cheezeburger, cheezeburger, no Pepsi.

Barry from AK mewing... er Roa | Homepage | 10.14.07 - 1:11 am | #

The musical guests as well. I recall the folks freaking out when Devo was on. B52s, as well.


GravatarGilly Gonzylon | 10.14.07 - 1:07 am | #

Idle was especially critical of the whole enterprise, saying that SNL was lucky to get a show off at all, considering they were rewriting sketches just before airtime. He didn't care for Michaels either, who seemed more concerned about hanging out with celebrities than producing a quality show...


GravatarFrom the Pirate pic the other day, I take it Zoey is doing better?
EkCenTriK


Took those right after a bath and brushing and just before she went if for her feeding tube. Hee, she did look pretty good.

I dunno if she's doing better, she certainly ;is easier to feed now, and we're hoping she's getting better. Monday visit to the vet will be the teller on that.


GravatarCleveland batter is actually wearing a gaudy pearl necklace.


GravatarWhen Akroyd and Belushi started with SNL they were paid $400 a week.


GravatarAl Gore has been on Apple's board of directors for a number of years now.


GravatarGilly Gonzylon | 10.14.07 - 1:12 am | #

When Dylan came on freaked a lot of people out too. It was his born again phase, and according to Idle, a lot of people got freaked out because of that...


GravatarCleveland batter is actually wearing a gaudy pearl necklace.
MP | 10.14.07 - 1:14 am | #

Batter, batter, BLING!, Battah!


GravatarBarry from AK mewing... er Roa | Homepage | 10.14.07 - 1:08 am |

The Bible does not talk about Barry from AK. But it does talk about Larry from Kansas, and this is clearly the same idea...


Gravatar"Nor Cheezeburger, cheezeburger, no Pepsi."

Yes. What I can't figure is exactly how the original SNL seemed counter culture, cool and relevant. Later editions had their moments, but never built the culture. It could be that SNL was right for the time of the moment. When that moment passed, it had nowhere to go.

They could have it back in this era, the material is there, building the culture is available but they seem uninterested.


GravatarNo, this is much better written.

It's basically just dead-pan humor, which is the easiest to write because the humor is in the very ordinariness of the verbal exchange.


GravatarThe Bible does not talk about Barry from AK. But it does talk about Larry from Kansas, and this is clearly the same idea...
ten thousand


Is he the dude that swapped the water urns for wine urns when no one was looking?


GravatarJaneane The Acerbic Goblin | 10.14.07 - 1:14 am | #

And when Elvis Costello stopped the song and launched into "Radio Radio"


GravatarGilly Gonzylon | 10.14.07 - 1:15 am | #

Got him banned for years...


GravatarHE THROWS A TALKING SENTIENT SEPARATE TERATOMA WHO TRIES TO KILL JESUS CHRIST ... no, you have to see it.


GravatarFrank Rich calls out troops Nazis and Gestapo in his latest column diatribe. This is beyond the pale. Something must be done about the New York Times and soon.


GravatarAnd don't forget Killer Bees!


Gravatar MOUSTACHE PENS VALENTINE TO GORE

F U Friedman.


GravatarElvis Costello is just an ignorant limey.


GravatarCleveland batter is actually wearing a gaudy pearl necklace. -MP

Bukkake Indian?


GravatarGagne is gone, yay.


GravatarElvis Costello is just an ignorant limey.
ten thousand | 10.14.07 - 1:17 am | #

Yeah, but I wanna do his wife.


GravatarAnd don't forget Killer Bees!

I read somewhere that Belushi fucking hated that shit. And he wasn't somebody to force into doing anything.


GravatarNothing on the morning shows about Global Warming.


GravatarBush won the election and for the first year really didn’t know what to do with it.

No longer operative Tom. Check the WA Post. He knew what he wanted.


GravatarHE THROWS A TALKING SENTIENT SEPARATE TERATOMA WHO TRIES TO KILL JESUS CHRIST

And that is different from some of the schtick in ATHF how?


GravatarTribe earned that run.


GravatarIn sum, Al Gore has been justly honored for highlighting — like no one else — the climate challenge. But we still need a vision, a strategy, an army and a commander in the White House who can inspire young and old — not only to meet that challenge but to see in it the opportunity to make America a better, stronger and more productive nation. This is our crucible moment.

Another New York Times op-ed call to arms that ignores history and its writer's complicity.

... Trot Nixon burns his former mates.


GravatarAnyone interested in some old Devo, 74-77? Industrial sounds but still obviously da Spuds.


Gravatar"But the stated form of the objection concerned not King's race but his obnoxiousness as a man. He was a windbag. He was pompous and self-dramatizing, He was holier than thou."

FALLOWS

Sound Familiar?


GravatarHello, bats.


GravatarNow the Red Sox are just playing sloppy. They should remove Gagne from the postseason roster.


GravatarHe actually threw the pitch *behind* the batter.


GravatarAnyone interested in some old Devo, 74-77?

Ooooh - me, please, sir, yes?!?!?


GravatarConservative Oz

Coulter the Scarecrow
Malkin the Tin Woman
Limbaugh the cowardly Lion
Couric Dorothy


GravatarAnyone interested in some old Devo, 74-77?


Crack that whip!


GravatarCarole King in the audience at Fenway.


GravatarAnyone interested in some old Devo, 74-77?

One chromosome too man-EE!


Gravatarhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ 20071...depressing_jobs
WASHINGTON - People who tend to the elderly, change diapers and serve up food and drinks have the highest rates of depression among U.S. workers.

Overall, 7 percent of full-time workers battled depression in the past year, according to a government report available Saturday.

Women were more likely than men to have had a major bout of depression, and younger workers had higher rates of depression than their older colleagues.

Almost 11 percent of personal care workers — which includes child care and helping the elderly and severely disabled with their daily needs — reported depression lasting two weeks or longer.

During such episodes there is loss of interest and pleasure, and at least four other symptoms surface, including problems with sleep, eating, energy, concentration and self-image.

Workers who prepare and serve food — cooks, bartenders, waiters and waitresses — had the second highest rate of depression among full-time employees at 10.3 percent.

In a tie for third were health care workers and social workers at 9.6 percent.

The lowest rate of depression, 4.3 percent, occurred in the job category that covers engineers, architects and surveyors.


Gravatar"Coulter the Scarecrow
Malkin the Tin Woman
Limbaugh the cowardly Lion
Couric Dorothy"

Tucker Carlson as Toto.


GravatarThe Criterion edition of Under the Volcano has a documentary called Volcano, which is about Malcolm Lowry, the author of the novel.

That documentary was better than John Huston's film. The book was better.

The documentary is one of my favorite documentaries...


GravatarThis Boston pitcher is like the anti-reliever.


GravatarI don't believe that about engineers. They're always weirdos and there familites are wirdos.


GravatarLike him or not, he has turned his efforts to an important cause, under historical and political circumstances that would have tempted many people to drown themselves in drink or move to Bhutan. It's interesting about the Nobel Peace Prize -- unlike the quirky and PC-conscious prize for Literature, or the quasi-Nobel* "medal" in economics -- that its list of winners holds up very, very well under historical scrutiny.

There are a few choices that look fishy in retrospect. (Henry Kissinger and Le Duc Tho in 1973??? Arafat as co-winner with Peres and Rabin in 1994?) But the great majority stand up very well. Desmond Tutu, and then Mandela and deKlerk. Albert Schweitzer. George C. Marshall. Lech Walesa, Willy Brandt, and Mikhail Gorbachev. The Dalai Lama and Aung San Suu Kyi. The Norwegian Nobel Institute has earned the benefit of the doubt for choosing people whose achievements will stand up over time.

International reputations are burnished by the Nobel Peace Prize, but Aung San Suu Kyi is still not at liberty in her own coutry and the U.S. media-political machine still hates Gore.


GravatarPeople who tend to the elderly, change diapers and serve up food and drinks have the highest rates of depression among U.S. workers.

So we're talking Senatorial Support Staff?


Gravatar... Trot Nixon burns his former mates.
Ebenezer Le Page

ain't it always the way with the Red Sox? What a game!


GravatarThis baseball game has been going on for five hours? Geez.


GravatarThe old Devo is the best Devo.


GravatarBack to bed.


GravatarThe old Devo is the best Devo.
puppethead | 10.14.07 - 1:29 am | #

General Boy !


GravatarAnybody that finds a dirty diaper stressful needs psychological help.


GravatarBTW, here's Elvis.

When he's glaring off screen, he's watching Lorne flipping him off.

Hey, Lorne - that's what "live" is all about, ya putz!


GravatarDevo's up in a few!


GravatarThis baseball game has been going on for five hours? Geez.
Ebenezer Le Page


The end is near. In fact, it's getting ugly.


GravatarBack to bed.

Please to turn on webcam, yes???


Gravatarain't it always the way with the Red Sox? What a game!

The wheels came off the Boston go-cart in this inning.


Gravatar
The documentary is one of my favorite documentaries...


The National Film Board of Canada has done a lot of good documentaries.


GravatarDevo's up in a few!

I've got a little chaser...


GravatarRichard | Homepage | 10.14.07 - 1:31 am | #

I bought an old VHS copy at a Blockbuster when I was a wee little one. They were getting rid of it because it had only been rented once.

Guess who that was...


GravatarCarole King in the audience at Fenway.
terry


Hee, her home is outside of Mountain Home Idaho, well at least it was 15 years ago, dunno if she moved.

For her, it must suck to have Larry Craig as her Senator.

Much as it sucks for the rest of us to have dubya.


Gravatarain't it always the way with the Red Sox? What a game!

The wheels came off the Boston go-cart in this inning.
Ebenezer Le Page

yes, and the fans are starting to go home.


GravatarWell, now the game is completely out of hand.

The documentary is one of my favorite documentaries.

Frederik Wiseman's movies are finally going to be released on DVD.


GravatarIt's officially an ass-kicking, at this point.


GravatarThese Indians are big and dangerous.


GravatarSo we had a whole thread about SNL and Al Gore and nobody seems to have brought up the ep (was it 2001, 2002? Thereabouts) that was HOSTED BY AL GORE?

It was the funniest (defined as "the only one actually funny") in the last 20 years.


I knew then and have said ever since that that was the message that Al was never going to run for elective office again. That "Sherman Statement" thing is so 1874.

Why anyone would think otherwise after seeing him perform a skit where the selection of his VP running mate was performed as an episode of "The Bachelor" I have never been able to fathom.

Naked in a hot tup with Joe Lieberman" (I forget who the actor was, martin short maybe)? Interlinking arms to drink champagne? You think it would have taken much to work up a "Hot Tub Veterans For Truth" series of ads to knock him out of any sort of political seriousness? Oy. "


GravatarThese Indians are big and dangerous.
terry


An explosive inning, to be sure. But that bearded dude struck out twice in the same inning.


GravatarGuess who that was...

Here's another documentary by the same writer that I've enjoyed several times...

Buster Keaton Rides Again
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059000/


GravatarI might buy that Under the Volcano DVD just for the doc...


GravatarSeven runs in one late inning will work well towards a win in baseball.


GravatarIt's officially an ass-kicking, at this point.
MP


That aint a baseball score, its a football score.


GravatarNight, all....


GravatarCasey Blake? He looks like sam waterson with a beard.


GravatarSo we had a whole thread about SNL and Al Gore and nobody seems to have brought up the ep (was it 2001, 2002? Thereabouts) that was HOSTED BY AL GORE?


That was indeed a funny show, Al was very relaxed.


GravatarBuster Keaton Rides Again

I was going to mention that... we saw that in my third grade class...


GravatarSo we had a whole thread about SNL and Al Gore and nobody seems to have brought up the ep (was it 2001, 2002? Thereabouts) that was HOSTED BY AL GORE?

I think it was mentioned, although somewhat obliquely...


GravatarGood grief, I'm experiencing technical difficulties, but not for long.


GravatarThis whole game, I've seen the all-caps word DICK'S behind the batter.


GravatarSorry, we saw The Railrodder, not the "making of" documentary, in third grade.

simels etc...


GravatarStupid announcer mentions double play, and wham, it happens.

I want a recount!


GravatarHow did Manny Ramirez go from fairly close cropped hair, to 2 foot dreads in a short period?


GravatarSpeaking of Buster Keaton...


Gravatar<i>I think it was mentioned, although somewhat obliquely...</i>

Apologies if so: I was reading kinda fast and there has been some tequila splashed around here so maybe i missed it. Just thought it was odd that it wasn't discussed in more detail. It was really the most straightforward "Fuck You" to a political career ever delivered, not to mention a demolition of anybody who wanted to ever claim that Gore was stiff or wooden or any of that crap.

And yet somehow the Punditry seems to have forgotten, or never seen, the episode as well. Hmm.


GravatarHow did Manny Ramirez go from fairly close cropped hair, to 2 foot dreads in a short period?
MP


Jessica Simpson's stylist?


GravatarSpeaking of Buster Keaton...
That is truly bizarre.


GravatarAnd yet somehow the Punditry seems to have forgotten, or never seen, the episode as well. Hmm.

Xan


Two contributing factors to that:

1: It happened more than 10 days ago, and;

2: No missing white woman bride to be.




GravatarThe big 3 of silent comedies, Chaplin, Keaton, and Lloyd made a lot of money per film, but nothing like today's scale. And they busted their fucking asses making the pictures.


GravatarObama Goes Door-To-Door in Iowa

DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) - Democrat Barack Obama knocked on doors in the Iowa capital Saturday talking up his opposition to the war in Iraq.

At one stop, Obama got a warm welcome from a woman who said the visit might persuade her to attend the Democratic presidential caucus in January,

"I'm flabbergasted that he's here knocking on my neighborhood door," Jody Degard told reporters after the visit from the Illinois senator.


GravatarThe big 3 of silent comedies, Chaplin, Keaton, and Lloyd made a lot of money per film, but nothing like today's scale. And they busted their fucking asses making the pictures.
MP | 10.14.07 - 1:55 am | #


Pre income tax.


GravatarFucking Christ, here's some Devo.

http://www.gigasize.com/get.php?...p? d=5ll2409y48c


GravatarPre income tax.
rootless2.4


Yeah, Chaplin was *huge* before 1913, when the US instituted permanent federal income tax.


GravatarBarry...how's Zooey? How are you?


GravatarI don't see that Vicki's DailyKos diary is ranked at all.


Gravatar
The big 3 of silent comedies, Chaplin, Keaton, and Lloyd made a lot of money per film, but nothing like today's scale. And they busted their fucking asses making the pictures.


You've just reminded me of this...

Unknown Chaplin
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0158310/
Plot Outline:A documentary series examining the film making methods and techniques of Charles Chaplin.

and this...

Buster Keaton: A Hard Act to Follow
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0172202/
Plot Outline:A series about the life, career and works of the movie comedy genius.

Both great Brownlow and Gill documentary series, though I prefer the Chaplin one.


GravatarMy sentiments go naturally to Keaton, if for no other reason than that he's my grav. But Harold Lloyd did all of the "Safety First" closeup clock tower stunts himself. Fully 12 stories up, and with a withered right hand, wounded from an earlier prop accident.


GravatarThe early king of comedic film were already masters at the acrobatic body control that live vaudeville demanded.

Fatty Arbuckle could toss a meat cleaver behind his back in the air and know exactly where the point would jam into the counter.


GravatarW.C. Fields could juggle anything. A truly remarkable performer. Fucker was a racist, though.


GravatarIn my local paper:
Gore Cartoon


Gravatarblimey... You'd think Seattle would be a little more kind.


GravatarYeah, Chaplin was *huge* before 1913, when the US instituted permanent federal income tax.
MP | 10.14.07 - 1:59 am | #


Good point - when I thought about it, I had that in my head maybe from Sunset Strip or a Raymond Chandler story.

But Chaplin was huge 1913-1917 and tax rates were very low then and dollars were worth more. Started out at 6% for $500,000/year in a period when $500,000 was not just a box in some suburban development.


GravatarThe World Trade Center was an eyesore anyway.


GravatarChaplin wasn't bigger than Al Jolson.


Gravatarrootless2.4 | 10.14.07 - 2:19 am

Chaplin was a curious animal. A very interesting life that dude conducted.


GravatarNobody was bigger than Milton Berle.


GravatarMychal Bell is back in jail. Louisiana.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/ new...jena_6_back.php


GravatarNobody was bigger than Milton Berle.

He was a dick.


GravatarChaplin was a curious animal. A very interesting life that dude conducted.
MP | 10.14.07 - 2:21 am | #

No kidding.


GravatarChaplin was a curious animal. A very interesting life that dude conducted.

No kidding.
rootless2.4


Uh oh. I see a Burns flick on the horizon.


Gravatar15 now...

G'night cocksuckers.


Gravatarpast time for me to log out. sentences are too hard to construct.


laters


Gravatar<i>past time for me to log out. sentences are too hard to construct.





laters</i>

No, it's that Butterbar has disappeared. This makes engaging in the effort just ever so much more..effortful.

O the humanity....


GravatarFrank Rich suggests that we are being "Good Germans."

Rich can get sort of squishy sometimes but this is not one of those occasions. He says we are complicit in facsism. He is of course, on this occasion, right. The topics being torture and mercenaries.

Might be a good thing for us to get his back, in this instance.


GravatarWhy am I sitting here talking to myself? Are the alleged "15 visitors" indeed an illusion?

Why do you not speak? Why do you force me to post links to, heaven forfend, Tom Friedman? Just because he manages to write a column which is all the way to, oh, about 43% sensible, on this particular occasion?

It's a Dancing Bear sort of thing, for the story which notes that the remarkable thing is not that the bear dances well, but that it dances at all:


Never has so much national unity — which could have been used to
develop a real energy policy, reverse our coming Social Security
deficit, assemble a lasting coalition to deal with Afghanistan and
Iraq, maybe even get a national health care program — been used to
build so little. That is what historians will note most about Mr.
Bush’s tenure — the sheer wasted opportunity of it all.


Friedman is inordinately frustrating because he has this tendency to get so
close to getting it right from time to time. He puts such a nice shine
on the stones which pave that proverbial well-intentioned road to Hell.


GravatarOh well, down to 9 alleged "visitors." Here it is only 2 the fuck ayem CDT and apparently everybody is off playing Pogo, viewing porn, fallen asLeep face-first on their keyboards, or just fucking.

Around, I meant. Fucking around.



Or perhaps I am just boring everybody into oblivion. I have been known to do thoat. Being out of anything to say at this point I shall depart, Respects & regards & all that shit. G'night.


Gravatar

Or perhaps I am just boring everybody into oblivion. I have been known to do thoat. Being out of anything to say at this point I shall depart, Respects & regards & all that shit. G'night.

Xan


Hey, you stole my leaving card, I want a royality!

Hello AAMPAA or ASCAP or one of the other sue the poor bastards outfits...

I want compensation.

Or, not.


GravatarNobody was bigger than Milton Berle.
MP


He was #1 on Foley's list of contacts, under the old but hung list.


GravatarThe World Trade Center was an eyesore anyway.
east


Just like lapel pins.


GravatarIn my local paper:
Gore Cartoon
shy one


No you are not, Al is.

And Horsey kinda nails it in that, Al gets the world wide recongnition that he didn't get from the Nascar crowd.

Well, some trade offs are worth, what, 3800 Soldiers lives, and counting.

Open skies, woo hoo, more coal plants, that's Dubya's solution.


Ok, I'm now at the limit of even putting these two people in the same post, Al is heroic, Dubya is a snivveling get his mama to bail him out panzy.

Not even worth my time to compare them anymore.


GravatarAn indication that the shenanigans by Bush's little gang have been going on for awhile.


"He was the CIA's expert on Pakistan's nuclear secrets, but Rich Barlow was thrown out and disgraced when he blew the whistle on a US cover-up. Now he's to have his day in court"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/ pakist...2188777,00.html


GravatarDoug | 10.14.07 - 3:40 am | #

Holy shit, he should sell his story to Hollywood.


GravatarWell...

I'll just say this...

The freaking WaPO writers that think that President Al Gore's Prize equates to a mandate for the Dubya's new ecology mandate...

Can blow chunks outta my ass all day long.

No srsly... I don't mind, use my ass to blow Dubya out would be an honor.


Gravatarbecause... tastee freeze

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QLd-XbPwSN8


Gravatarbecause... tastee freeze

yucko......


GravatarBarry....Dubya doesn't deserve to be anywhere near your ass.

Just sayin'.....


GravatarOnly three people online. I either stayed up too late or got up too early.


GravatarBarry you have mail


GravatarThe ‘Good Germans’ Among Us

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/1...ion& oref=slogin


GravatarAs the war has dragged on, it is hard to give Americans en masse a pass. We are too slow to notice, let alone protest, the calamities that have followed the original sin


GravatarLast week Paul Rieckhoff, an Iraq war combat veteran who directs Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America, sketched for me the apocalypse to come. Should Baghdad implode, our contractors, not having to answer to the military chain of command, can simply “drop their guns and go home.” Vulnerable American troops could be deserted by those “who deliver their bullets and beans.”


GravatarOur moral trajectory over the Bush years could not be better dramatized than it was by a reunion of an elite group of two dozen World War II veterans in Washington this month. They were participants in a top-secret operation to interrogate some 4,000 Nazi prisoners of war. Until now, they have kept silent, but America’s recent record prompted them to talk to The Washington Post.

“We got more information out of a German general with a game of chess or Ping-Pong than they do today, with their torture,” said Henry Kolm, 90, an M.I.T. physicist whose interrogation of Rudolf Hess, Hitler’s deputy, took place over a chessboard. George Frenkel, 87, recalled that he “never laid hands on anyone” in his many interrogations, adding, “I’m proud to say I never compromised my humanity.”


Gravatar"Torture, Torture; Read All About It!"
"Get Ya Frank Rich right here:"

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/1...=th& oref=slogin


GravatarWow, what a devastatingly incisive column! Such are why I forgive Frank Rich his weaker work.


GravatarBecause they're offering free shipping on all orders thru Dec. 21 this year, I splurged on a Maine Balsam wreath for Christmas this year from LL Bean. Yes, we have oodles of classic Pacific Northwest noble fir-incense cedar, holly and cones wreaths out here, but this will be a bit different.


GravatarIf you're reading Rich's column go ahead and check out Modo, it's perfectly safe for consumtion since she got Steven Colbert to do it for her.


GravatarMorning, all.


GravatarNTodd is excellent on Rich.


GravatarMornin, Moe.


GravatarFrom Modo:
He was sneering that Times columns make good “kindling.” He was ranting that after you throw away the paper, “it takes over a hundred years for the lies to biodegrade.” He was observing, approvingly, that “Dick Cheney’s fondest pipe dream is driving a bulldozer into The New York Times while drinking crude oil out of Keith Olbermann’s skull.”

I love that last part -- it's such a vivid, true-to-life image!


Gravatarfarmeress

I like it.


GravatarMorning, kids.


GravatarMorning, Molly and Moe!


GravatarDebbie Schlussel is just icky.


GravatarRich will be "swift-boated" for this one.


GravatarMorning, rational people.


GravatarRich will be "swift-boated" for this one.

I dunno -- Methinks he's a frighteningly good wordsmith, uncowed by the Righttard Slime Emitters.


GravatarHey p-man. I'm all giddy about getting a wood chipper.

On my radio right now, Kinky Friedman: "A cowboy doesn't talk about religion, he lives it."


GravatarGood Morning Eschatonians.
What is everyone doing up so early on a Sunday morning? I'm looking for someone to save me from watching 'Polka Pride' on TV. Not only am I watching, I've seen people I know.


GravatarPootie Poot pooped all over Condi's Manolo's.


GravatarI'm all giddy about getting a wood chipper.

Understood, but don't approach it tipsy, Moe!


GravatarLemme try this again:

Morning, rational people.

(I see that Haloscan is being a little cranky and that my friend Ellery, whose blog I helped set up yesterday, did a little surfing while I was otherwise engaged.)


GravatarI'm looking for someone to save me from watching 'Polka Pride' on TV. Not only am I watching, I've seen people I know.

Oh, dear.


GravatarThe parallels among polka, Oom-pah-pah, and Mexican music always amaze me.


GravatarChippered Vegetation sure breaks down into compost faster, no question!


GravatarWe're going to spend most of our $400 personal customs exemption at a bookstore. We'll save hundreds of dollars, as the book industry still doesn't recognize the reality of our All Powerful Loonies.


GravatarThe Mustache of Understanding proves his stunning mastery of the incredibly obvious again today.


GravatarRich can write, but he's three years behind. DWD, for example, has been ranting since well before the 04 elections about the complicity of the population. I'm not sure he's used the phrase "good Germans," but plenty of others here have.


Gravatarmorning, all.

Diane, that portable court is too sick. At least it isn't a castle in Baghdad. Orange chicken,

at http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com/


GravatarWe're going to spend most of our $400 personal customs exemption at a bookstore.

I've been thinking about that. Our paperbacks all come printed with the old price differential .


GravatarDWD shrieks.


GravatarThe Mustache of Understanding proves his stunning mastery of the incredibly obvious again today.
plantsman, areligious


Jeez, plantsman, your constitution is clearly stronger than mine. I don't think I could take a Friedman column at this hour of the morning.


GravatarIt's a HUGE issue here. Talk shows are abuzz. The book prices have been about 60% different, even though the loonie has been soaring for a couple of years now. The books are of course printed at the same place, etc. so the costs are exactly the same.


GravatarOh, I just read the synopsis - my tummy's not THAT strong.


GravatarDWD shrieks.

I don't mind that when he's right. I think we all have a Munchian Scream in us somewhere.

I lose patience with the passive aggressive, let me talk to you like you're six tone, but I think in general he has the right sense of the political landscape.


GravatarI lose patience with the passive aggressive, let me talk to you like you're six tone

Agreed, but when Chimpy does it (apologies, Chimps and bonobos), it's really irritating!


GravatarShrieking needs doing. DWD is good at it. Wish it were having a greater effect, there's still too many hiding heads in sandses.


GravatarI enjoy DWD's shrieks. I worry about him, though.


GravatarI hit a wall when DWD and simels shrugged off the Armenian Genocide so easily. I had to withdraw and contemplate.


GravatarWhat Moe said.


GravatarSeems to me the print columnists are now coming to the blogoshere's point of view. That shouldn't have to happen to give the good writers on the net credibility.


GravatarIs Barry here this a.m.?

Kittis up at http://www.nocapital.blogspot.com/

Rors and Miriam are settling in, too.


GravatarZora has the most amazing face!


GravatarRich wrote a terrific column today. I only wish that the people who should read it will. I'm not too confident in that.


GravatarI enjoy DWD's shrieks. I worry about him, though.
Moe Szyslak |

Yes, as do I. I cannot tell if he's trying to draw us out, or desperately trying to hold on.


Gravatar
Agreed, but when Chimpy does it (apologies, Chimps and bonobos), it's really irritating!


I think he would freak at the comparison, but it's exactly what I think of.

Sometimes, you understand, even if you disagree.


GravatarThis will be my first Halloween knowing I'm a diabetic. Last year, my only Treater was an infant in her parents' arms, who had no idea what was going on. No big bag of sugar for me to get fat from!


GravatarCSpan just read from Friedman's stuff. Definitely he's found his internet self. Nice of us to keep the rationality coming.


GravatarFrom Dowd's column, Colbert:

Which reminds me: Before I get started, I have to take care of one other bit of business:

Bad things are happening in countries you shouldn’t have to think about. It’s all George Bush’s fault, the vice president is Satan, and God is gay.

There. Now I’ve written Frank Rich’s column too.


GravatarI know there used to be these packs with little blobs of soft, sticky wax that can be used to anchor and straighten candles in holders, but for the life of me, I can't find any. A trip to a MICHAEL'S may be in order.


GravatarI think there might be chronic pain and medication issues, as well.


GravatarColbert:
And Fred Thompson. In my opinion “Law & Order” never sufficiently explained why the Manhattan D.A. had an accent like an Appalachian catfish wrestler.


It's Ok to read it, really


GravatarSo, if Colbert doesn't read these columns, how can he know when he's emulated them, Hmm?


GravatarI don't know, but this is good:
On race: “While skin and race are often synonymous, skin cleansing is good, race cleansing is bad.”


GravatarThanks for Rich's column plantsman.

I mind that he makes us out to be all GoPervs. We do call and write, and shriek in our blogs. The WH refuses to listen to voices outside its head.


GravatarI was in my office, writing a column on the injustice of relative marginal tax rates for hedge fund managers...

First sentence, first lie.


GravatarModern SCJohnson/Glade "Holiday Scents" leave me mostly cold, so I decided I needed a real Bayberry hit this year and laid in some hand-dipped bayberry wax tapers.


GravatarI don't know, but this is good:
On race: “While skin and race are often synonymous, skin cleansing is good, race cleansing is bad.”
camelot




GravatarStart the candle burning, plantsman, tilt it over above the candlestick, let enuff wax drip into the candlestick, insert candle.


GravatarColbert is a farkin' genius. MoDo should feel very lucky.


GravatarColbert is a farkin' genius. MoDo should feel very lucky.
plantsman, areligious |

...or be embarrassed and afraid.


GravatarI know, Ruth -- but you know how you get these notions stuck in your head sometimes, and there's still plenty of time, and I haven't been in a crafts store in ages, and....


GravatarMolly, how is SP?


GravatarMorning, ql.

He doesn't actually seem to have developed any more spots. I don't know what to think.


GravatarI bought little tin, hand-stamped candle holders with a ring to carry them by from Lehman's.


GravatarHe doesn't actually seem to have developed any more spots. I don't know what to think.
Molly Ivors


Have you considered an exorcism?


GravatarDiane C

That is Colbert; good stuff, eh?

Does anyone know what to do about getting pornographic cell phone pictures sent to you? Last night, around 11:45, my phone rang the noisy noise it makes when you receive a picture. It woke me up and scared me. Should I go to the police or won't they deal with such trivialities?


GravatarYes, I'm getting in the Spirit, damn it all!


GravatarWAPO editorial calling for more court supervision of spying, but accepting the WH line that it was for combatting terrorism. Avedon thoroughly debunked that in the post below this.

my comment; The Nacchio case illustrates that the interception of personal communications pre-dates 9-11, and did not prevent it. Sane people would deduce that there are other reasons than prevention of terrorism at its core. Before 9-11 the executive branch ignored briefings about terrorism, and only used terrorism afterwards to go to war with Iraq. This is an administration that has proven it can't be trusted and should not be given a free hand to use the nation's resources of any kind.

at http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp...9_Comments.html


Gravatar
Have you considered an exorcism?


Don't get me wrong; I'm glad. But I want to know if he can go back to school.


GravatarHaloScan could really use a good cleaning.


GravatarYes, I'm getting in the Spirit, damn it all!
plantsman, areligious

We usually get around 350 Trick or Treaters, wanna come pass out candy?

We also have mulled cider and gingerbread muffins on the front porch for the grown-ups.


GravatarLast year I had hoped to decorate and celebrate Christmas, even without presents -- but I landed in hospital and when I got out, I was too weak to care.


Gravatarwell, that's understandable plantsman, go for it. Or chew gum.

Glad the spots aren't getting worse, but Gimlet has the right idea. Bell book and candle (bayberry is lovely)


GravatarI get only two or three trick-or-treaters each year. Which is too bad, as I have an actual pumpkin patch.


GravatarI'm not so sure I buy Nacchio's story, at least not yet. He's just been convicted of some insider playing around with Qwest and he's flopping around for a new trial.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love for this to be true, giving us another reason to storm Nancy Pelosi's office, but I'm just not sure about Nacchio's veracity.


GravatarI don't know if I get trick or treaters. I've never been home at the alloted time.


GravatarMolly, don't they usually say after the "spots" are out, they're no longer contagious? The period right before they come out is the "catchy" time.


GravatarOur apartment complex manager is an incredible punkin' carver for Jack-O-Lanterns. He's already got a crowd of pumpkins in front of his door.


GravatarCamelot, I'd call your cell phone service and file a complaint with them first. They might be able to block any further pictures from whoever sent the first.


GravatarMy house is set so far back in such a dark place, I never get trick or treaters. So no candy necessary. And I think I'd get some substitute like fruit chip bags instead if I did.


Gravatarcamelot,
No, we have to wait for them to blister and then crust over. But they're not blistering, which suggests to me they might not be chicken pox.


GravatarDoes anyone know what to do about getting pornographic cell phone pictures sent to you? Last night, around 11:45, my phone rang the noisy noise it makes when you receive a picture. It woke me up and scared me. Should I go to the police or won't they deal with such trivialities?
camelot


* bites tongue *

I don't think there's a law against sending naughty pictures to the wrong person.

The telephone number of the sender will be on the message. Send them a note back to the effect of "I'm sorry about your penis, and oh by the way, WRONG FUCKING NUMBER!"

Then forward the photo to NTodd.


GravatarWe get a few, but people mostly go to families they know these days.


Gravatarmorning all.

CNN telling me how to be a good Christian.


GravatarMeasles?


GravatarCamelot, I'd call your cell phone service and file a complaint with them first. They might be able to block any further pictures from whoever sent the first.

Thanks, this has never happened to me and I can tell it is a local number. I don't know what to make of that. Did you know that if you pay $13.96 you can get someone's cell phone number? That is also startling.


GravatarThen forward the photo to NTodd.
jac




Excellent idea.


GravatarMeasles?

No, thanks. Already had them.


GravatarFrom what I remember, if SP has only had a very mild case he may be able to get it again. My kids had it over the summer so I have no idea what the rule of thumb is for sending them back to school.

I've decided that Pelosi and Reid really have made a colossal mistake in taking impeachment off the table. I understand they figure they have other things they want to get done, but really, there is nothing more important. And screw trying to unite the country.

I rather resent people coming here and telling me I'm under illusions. But that's just me.


GravatarYour service contract may contain a code for "Call Blocking."


GravatarDid you know that if you pay $13.96 you can get someone's cell phone number?

Let's get Rudy's, and give him a call during his next speech.


GravatarWell, time for breakfast and my first nap.

Have a good Sunday morning, bats, and when you get a chance, check out the new Portable Justice which has arrived at Gitmo.


GravatarExcellent idea.
Diane C.


I've actually come to enjoy some wrong numbers.

For about a year I would get messages from a Military Police officer - every time a member of the military was arrested in the area, I'd get this long message with the details - very entertaining. They FINALLY figured it out.


GravatarNo, it's not measles. We took him to the doctor.


GravatarFrom what I remember, if SP has only had a very mild case he may be able to get it again. My kids had it over the summer so I have no idea what the rule of thumb is for sending them back to school.


I thought this too. My youngest had the Ch.Pox shot, then chicken pox, then shingles, twice.


Gravatargood point, Diane, I shouldn't base my reasoning solely on Nacchio's word. But have always been bumfuzzled that Cretin-1's refusal to hear briefings on terrorism and then insisting he's the one to combat it are let go as if they were believable by the media.


GravatarI rather resent people coming here and telling me I'm under illusions. But that's just me.

I know that feeling -- the last few days I've put my foot in my mouth so often around here (according to the cognoscenti ) that NTodd told me I was acting like "an obtuse Fuckwit."

(sobs)


GravatarMy youngest had the Ch.Pox shot, then chicken pox, then shingles, twice.

Well, you probably shouldn't have named her Varicella.


Gravatar(sobs)

You're good people, plantsman. We know that.

And don't take NTodd too seriously. We're great friends, and argue all the time.


GravatarVariola would have been a mistake, too -- possibly.


GravatarAssuming SP recovers quickly, maybe I'll go ahead and get him the shot in any case.


Gravatarplantsman, areligious

You have noticed the tensions around here lately. My "concern trolldom" came somewhere in the middle, I believe. Sorry.
I did learn something from that though. (PMS lives!)


Gravatarql, you're just deluded, isn't that it? (smiley face)

maybe SP is allergic to Ntodd.


GravatarThanks, Molly; and I don't take it to heart, unless I'm having a bad spell.


Gravatar
maybe SP is allergic to Ntodd.



Hmmmm.... The spots did appear shortly after he left.


Gravatar(PMS lives!)

only nice thing about breast cancer. The chemo brought on menopause 15 years too soon and no more pms. I really am a nicer person.


GravatarPritsky Pox! OMOIGAWD!!!!


GravatarWell, you probably shouldn't have named her Varicella.

I think when I e-mailed you a response her name might have been in it, not very far off from Varicella!


GravatarI think we here are likely to have a bad patch until next July. Once the Dems have a nominee, we'll all be on the same side again, but until then, it's going to be tense.


GravatarAnd pornographic pics on your cell phone are pro'ly blockable, or can't you forward them on to the local constabulary and copy the sender.


GravatarPritsky Pox!




(I did remember hat it was close, camelot, but didn't go back to check it. Rubella was also probably a mistake.)


GravatarMolly, you should ask NTodd what brand of laundry detergent and such he might be using and if it's child friendly. Make him feel guilty.


GravatarMorning all.

Anything irksome going on I should know about?


GravatarHappened to catch the Tim Russert Show
(The Show Without a Set!) on MSNBC. Timmeh, Chuck Todd, Noron, and Chris Cillizza just blabbing about the candidates.....


GravatarGood morning.

Molly the way the primaries have been set up this time around we'll have a nominee in February.
Crazy fast.


GravatarTension ? WHAT TENSION!!


GravatarMorning, all


Gravatar"When, Ever I Feel Afraid, I Whistle A Happy Tune...."


GravatarBroderian columne about market forces making us all charitable toward our fella mon. at http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp...7101202149.html

Should proly not read until I have breakfast under my belt.


GravatarCamelot, I'd call your cell phone service and file a complaint with them first. They might be able to block any further pictures from whoever sent the first

The telephone number of the sender will be on the message. Send them a note back to the effect of "I'm sorry about your penis, and oh by the way, WRONG FUCKING NUMBER!"

Your service contract may contain a code for "Call Blocking."


Thanks everyone, I may do all of the above, except maybe the forwarding it to NTodd. That and Pritsky Pox may be too much to wake up to, even for NTodd.


GravatarToday Show concluding Sanchez shoulda spoke up sooner.


GravatarMorning, all
DWD - persona non grata | Homepage | 10.14.07 - 8:07 am | #


Still more anti-Mayan bigotry.

At long last, have you no sense of decency?


GravatarToday Show concluding Sanchez shoulda spoke up sooner.

Abu Ghraib happened on Sanchez' watch. Under his command,


Gravatarworst porn pic I ever saw, case in a law firm defending some one arrested for selling porn - the 'model'had piles.


GravatarTension ? WHAT TENSION!!

Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!

(Heehee. Okay, I have to go grade papers and do laundry now. My new freezer started leaking, and my highly complex laundry system, wherein I chuck everything down the cellar stairs, has revealed its flaws with the water on the floor. Now I have loads and loads of sopping laundry to do, and I have to do it before it gets moldy. Ick.)

Anywho, later!


GravatarHey, DWD.


GravatarOh hell, yes, the private marketplace has served us so very well we should now mire the health care system more into a swamp for the sake of the money makers.


GravatarOh hell, yes, the private marketplace has served us so very well we should now mire the health care system more into a swamp for the sake of the money makers.

No kidding.


GravatarMolly, been there. Get to them quick.

Hey DWD, have you noticed how we all care? (I don't have or know how to have emoticons, but there would be a smiley face.)


GravatarAbu Ghraib should have been the end of Rummy.


GravatarLaughing face is colon-lol-colon, no spaces.


GravatarI wonder when we're going to learn about the Blackwater brothels.


GravatarShe's made Cold War in Russia, now Condi is heading on to Middle East piece talks. I'm really scared now.


Gravatar

Lets see if I can do it.


GravatarThe military makes 1/6th what the mercenaries do -- which makes them SO cost-effective.


GravatarSandra, plantsman, we're not even talking about actual health care. Insurance doesn't get you actual health care. It's uncivilized.


GravatarWaving smiley is colon-bye-colon.


GravatarI wonder when we're going to learn about the Blackwater brothels.
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 10.14.07 - 8:18 am | #


Joy Division?


Gravatarcamelot,

Of course. Or I would stop coming around. And I do as well.
egregious at FDL is summing it up for me pretty well, though,

"We’re seeing a lot of anguish on the blog and in real life these days, people becoming infuriated about administration abuses and gloomy over a Congress that refuses to hit the Stop button.

"It’s a genuine grief for our nation, and it’s taking a toll on our psyche. Such strong emotions need to go somewhere—we fight with each other on the blog instead of uniting against the real evildoers—or worse, we take the pain internally and struggle with it there alone."


Gravatar"Condoleezza Rice, at least as incompetent as George W. Bush!"


Gravatarwell then hello


GravatarYou don't stick 160,000 men in a war zone without brothels. It's not possible.


GravatarI was over at MYDD. How did Hillary get so far ahead in the Iowa polls? Edwards practically lived in Iowa for a year! Grrr.


GravatarVery sound, DWD. And I usually just get off when fights and trolls start up.


GravatarYou don't stick 160,000 men in a war zone without brothels. It's not possible.

Unless you have teh "Gay Spray."


GravatarThe military makes 1/6th what the mercenaries do -- which makes them SO cost-effective.
plantsman, areligious
*
yesterday a very serious person faulted Clinton for all of this for having reducing troop levels


GravatarSandra, plantsman, we're not even talking about actual health care. Insurance doesn't get you actual health care. It's uncivilized.
Ruth


works perfectly for NASCAR dads

seriously, ask typical uh-merican rednecks and they argue that uh-merica is the best and that i should be happy to have a job - that is where uh-merican culture has been beat down to...to expect the lowered expectations of a shitty life working as a whore for our corporate overlords


Gravatarbrothels and porn, on top of Broder's plan for free market profiteering - now I'm really getting serious about breakfast.


GravatarAnd I usually just get off when fights and trolls start up.

Yup, me too. Molly has quoted Thers as saying 95% of what happens on the blog doesn't matter and the other 5% is crap. Or something along those lines.


GravatarCondi was supposed to impress us with her deep skills on the Russian front.
WTF?


Gravatarmogwai, the NASCARs need to wake up to blogging. 'course, they'd pro'ly hang out somewhere with flag lapel pins.


GravatarI notice a distinct difference in tone once the daylight crowd checks in, I'm more a wee-hours type of guy.


GravatarNancyW, Putin read about seeing his soul in his eyes and figured out he is dealing with morons.


GravatarWaving smiley is colon-bye-colon.
plantsman, areligious | Homepage | 10.14.07 - 8:20 am | #


What does "bye" stand for?


Gravatarplantsman, when daylight comes the tackiest have to go inside and play with mom's computer.


GravatarDear GOP

you swore this crowd was EXACTLY what the country needed in 2000 and 2004. Why the hell should we ever believe you again?


GravatarSo, Blackwater is sending prostitutes? Blackwater is a pimp?


Gravatar - waving bye-bye.


GravatarHillary is very organized and very efficient. She is basically a wonk. One of the reasons I support her.


Gravatarbye = bopped your erksomeness

Really, really, I'm having breakfast now. l8r


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Gravatarthe NASCARs need to wake up to blogging.

that'll be the day

their anti-intellectualism is fueled by their religious fundamentalism...you have to fight both of those ingrained systems before you can try to pry the truth into people's skulls - the organized churches haven't lasted for > 1000 years without getting their system of exploitation and brainwash down to a science


Gravatarapparently it stands for "bye"


Gravatarcolon-bye-colon

Isn't that Katie Couric's logo?


GravatarSo, Blackwater is sending prostitutes? Blackwater is a pimp?
camelot


I dunno what form it takes, but I have no doubt that we'll one day learn of a gigantic organized sex trade. I don't mean the desperate Iraqi women finding a means of survival-- I mean hundreds of women transported in an organized fashion. Somebody's on it, I have no doubt. Whether it's Halliburton I can't say, but they seem like an enterprising lot, with little concern for legalities, so.


GravatarI read somewhere yesterday that when pooty poot met w for the first time he showed w a cross that he said belonged to his mom or grandma and had it blessed by the pope and kept it on his person at all times. This impressed w and that's where the soul part comes in. apparently it was all a lie. Just something made up specifically to fool the cretin in chief.


GravatarAnd when you get a whole Rockettes line of 'em:


GravatarThere are plenty of lefty NASCARers. My sister, for one.


GravatarPooty is Russian Orthodox, if anything; and would not follow the Pope.


GravatarHillary is very organized and very efficient. She is basically a wonk. One of the reasons I support her.
ql optimist | Homepage | 10.14.07 - 8:30 am | #


That $5000 birth bonus she floated last week was surpassingly stupid on every level. So I think it's interesting that neither the media or the wingnuts have made it an issue.

It's almost like people want her to be president.

I'm wearing tinfoil, obviously.


GravatarWhy the hell should we ever believe you again?

"cause our collective memories are less than a few years, cause we refuse to understand the lessons of history, and cause we'd rather buy cheap shit from china than actually care"


Gravatarmoe,

I've often wondered about having all those men and no outlet. Weren't there stories of lady soldiers afraid to use the latrines at night because of multiple rapes?


GravatarInvesting $5,000 for every child born and having it collect compound interest would ensure that most kids have the option of going to college.


GravatarIt's almost like people want her to be president.

I'm wearing tinfoil, obviously.

steve simels


Steve,

It is not the "people" it is the Republicans who want to run against her because she cannot win


GravatarProstitution in Iraq.


GravatarNascar makes me sad. My father used to take me to races when I was little. Dirt tracks, sprint cars, Pocono 500, etc. But Nascar has made it so commercial, and expensive, that it is no fun for me anymore. I don't want to watch commercials driving in circles, and it was a wonderful voting block for Repukes.


GravatarI've often wondered about having all those men and no outlet. Weren't there stories of lady soldiers afraid to use the latrines at night because of multiple rapes?
ql optimist


Yea. The actual soldiers probably have a bit of an outlet, if you can call it that, through rape or consensual relationships with their female counterparts. But what of the hundreds of thousands of mercenaries and contractors, with no obvious command structure?


GravatarOK, the "Hate on Hillary"moment. Laters.


GravatarIt isn't new for this administration to be involved in sex slavery as I recall. Weren't the Bugman and the Duke involved?


GravatarExactly as Atrios said about Rice on concentrated power....not a trace of irony.
Funny because fucking Bush's smirks are his way of reminding us that almost everything that SOB tell us is dripping with irony.
Bush can't control his delight in his Orwellean rhetoric. He sops up each morsel with lips a smacking.
Why else does the imbecile grin so?


GravatarI'm late to the party --

This Blackwater and brothels thing --

Is there real news or are we just speculating?


Gravatarmy NASCAR-dads comment was no reflection upon NASCAR - it's more a colloquialism about middle-america. i really don't give a shit about rednecks who think that driving in circles is racing


GravatarAnd Dynocorp and KBR were dealing in sex trafficking in Bosnia, so I don't see why it would be any different in Iraq.


GravatarYea. The actual soldiers probably have a bit of an outlet, if you can call it that, through rape or consensual relationships with their female counterparts. But what of the hundreds of thousands of mercenaries and contractors, with no obvious command structure?
Moe Szyslak
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I would pay to see data on Blackwater hires on sex, race, religion etc.


GravatarToles:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp...toles_main.html


Gravatarreal news or are we just speculating

Speculating. But Molly's link (above) points out that lots of women are shipped to Iraq as cooks, cleaners, etc. It seems rather obvious.


GravatarAnd why were the rethugs in the eighties trying to get nuclear weapons and jets to fly them to Pakistan?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/ pakist...2188777,00.html


Gravatarim glad you all enjuyed the Frank Rich,but this was the underlying article i wanted yall to see

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp...7100502492.html


Gravatarapparently it stands for "bye"
Culture of TrÜth


Or "Aloha" (hello / goodbye)


Gravatarbrb


GravatarGrrrr. I am tired of people calling in to C-span saying, "Bill Cinton lied." WTF do they think GWB has done over and over again?
How do you make the red-faced, angry emoticon?


GravatarThe waving smiley may also be obtained with colon-wave-colon, no spaces.


Gravatarcolon-mad-colon


GravatarGrrrr. I am tired of people calling in to C-span saying, "Bill Cinton lied." WTF do they think GWB has done over and over again?
How do you make the red-faced, angry emoticon?
camelot | 10.14.07 - 8:47 am | #
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paid worker bees


Gravatarand plantsman owes me a case of coke


Gravatarpaid worker bees

Worker bees are female. I think they are drones.


GravatarA case? What for?


Gravatarworker bees i male i think


Gravatar


Gravatar:0


GravatarWiki:

A worker bee is a female honeybee which performs certain tasks in support of a bee hive.


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Gravatarplantsman's right. Sad is just sad, and yelling just yelling, but colon mad colon is angry.


Gravatarql, that's it! Cretin 1 said he saw his soul in his LIES, and was misquoted.


GravatarBut I use colon wave colon for the waving guy.


GravatarThe ‘Good Germans’ Among Us
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/1...ion& oref=slogin
sittenprettyfarmeress | Homepage | 10.14.07 - 6:20 am | #------------------------------------------
As the war has dragged on, it is hard to give Americans en masse a pass. We are too slow to notice, let alone protest, the calamities that have followed the original sin
sittenprettyfarmeress | Homepage | 10.14.07 - 6:24 am | #
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Last week Paul Rieckhoff, an Iraq war combat veteran who directs Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America, sketched for me the apocalypse to come. Should Baghdad implode, our contractors, not having to answer to the military chain of command, can simply “drop their guns and go home.” Vulnerable American troops could be deserted by those “who deliver their bullets and beans.”
sittenprettyfarmeress | Homepage | 10.14.07 - 6:28 am | #
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Our moral trajectory over the Bush years could not be better dramatized than it was by a reunion of an elite group of two dozen World War II veterans in Washington this month. They were participants in a top-secret operation to interrogate some 4,000 Nazi prisoners of war. Until now, they have kept silent, but America’s recent record prompted them to talk to The Washington Post.
“We got more information out of a German general with a game of chess or Ping-Pong than they do today, with their torture,” said Henry Kolm, 90, an M.I.T. physicist whose interrogation of Rudolf Hess, Hitler’s deputy, took place over a chessboard. George Frenkel, 87, recalled that he “never laid hands on anyone” in his many interrogations, adding, “I’m proud to say I never compromised my humanity.”
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"Torture, Torture; Read All About It!"
"Get Ya Frank Rich right here:"

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/1...=th& oref=slogin
plantsman, areligious | Homepage | 10.14.07 - 6:39 am | #

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GravatarThe trade association representing the cosmetic industry acknowledged "negligible" levels of lead in some lipsticks but said it is not intentionally added.

"Consumers are exposed daily to lead when they eat, drink water and breathe," said John Bailey, an executive vice president at the Cosmetic, Toiletry and Fragrance Association.


the uh-merican way to argue for shit that is obviously evil: just proclaim that it is in our natural world....using that line of argument, one can argue that radiation is fine cause the sun and the earth emit radiation..."hey, you grew up chewing lead-painted alphabet blocks and you look fine"

knowing better does not sink into dumbfuck uh-mericans, i don't know why, i have my ideas (religion, i'm looking at you!)


GravatarGrrrr. I am tired of people calling in to C-span saying, "Bill Cinton lied."

Why was Clinton even asked about marital infidelity under oath with a video camera 5 feet in front of him?
Bush refused to be sworn in at the 9/11 Commission hearings after first refusing to attend. Then only for an hour, sitting in Dick Cheney's lap without recordings (video or even audio) and no transcript - just notes kept by someone appointed by the Chairman who was in turn appointed by Bush - whose first choice was Henry Fucking Kissinger and...
I'll stop. It pisses me off too.


Gravatargive a ht..PM its good commment ettiquette


GravatarFrom the article Molly cited:

On leave from Iraq in 2005, Army Reservist Patrick Lackatt said that "For one dollar you can get a prostitute for one hour."


GravatarSince I do not drink sugared soft drinks, I rarely have them around.


GravatarSince I do not drink sugared soft drinks, I rarely have them around.
plantsman, areligious | Homepage | 10.14.07 - 8:54 am | #

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you miss the point


GravatarI do indeed.


GravatarI am tired of people calling in to C-span saying, "Bill Cinton lied."

there's your middle uh-merican, right there...ignore the past 6 years of hell, and go back to one sex act and the lies about it


Gravatarfigures the worker bees are female

it was always thus
lioness aussi


Gravatarsittenprettyfarmeress:

Did you see a really embarassing confession I posted yesterday?


GravatarRemember the balsa-wood UAV's with nukes that could get here from Iraq in 45 minutes that Cheney kept talking about? I do.


GravatarI do indeed.
plantsman, areligious | Homepage | 10.14.07 - 8:56 am | #

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okay
when you copy someboies post...give a hat tip that you did not originate it...get it?


GravatarMaybe it's hardwired into conservatives. A tin ear to rival James Watt:

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5145
Unbelievably, the Chief of the Voting Section of the Civil Rights Division, U.S. Department of Justice, John Tanner, contends that while it's "a shame" that elderly voters may be disenfranchised by new Photo ID restrictions at the polls because many don't have driver's licenses, minorities don't have to worry quite as much. Why? Because "minorities don't become elderly the way white people do. They die first."

Yes, that's what Tanner said last Friday at the National Latino Congreso in Los Angeles and The BRAD BLOG was in tow with video camera to prove it...


Gravatarsittenprettyfarmeress:

Did you see a really embarassing confession I posted yesterday?

steve simels | Homepage | 10.14.07 - 8:58 am | #

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no
do tell


GravatarDid you see a really embarassing confession I posted yesterday?

Did it have to do with spitting on a veteran?


GravatarI did not copy from you, i linked directly to RICH, the column's author.


GravatarClinton is red meat to the morons - and they're carnivores.


GravatarFunniest thread comment:
Sophomore year of college: every time I would smoke hash I would listen to "Days of Future Passed" in the hope that one day I would be able to get stoned just by listening to the album. I don't know if it worked or not, I can't stand that album anymore.
The Kenosha Kid

hint: fresh thread please!!


GravatarI did not copy from you, i linked directly to RICH, the column's author.
plantsman, areligious | Homepage | 10.14.07 - 9:00 am | #

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after you read mine that was right above you
oh never mind


Gravatarplantsman has been quoting rich, and gave a link, since very early on.


GravatarI must admit it: I found the Moody Blues unbearably pretentious.


GravatarSince I do not drink sugared soft drinks, I rarely have them around.
plantsman


Excuses, excuses...


Gravatarhint: fresh thread please!!
Nancy Willing |

Yea. Where's the Bobblehead Scorecard/Lineup sheet?


GravatarGimlet, Tanner has the brain capacity of a slug. Sorry, slugs. But the original social security concept was that most people wouldn't live to collect it.


Gravatar"minorities don't become elderly the way white people do. They die first."


Misses the point in a way that hitting Beta Caronis instead of the barn door is missing the point.